| 00:00.36 | qupada | _Atomo64_: run 'kdesu k3bsetup |
| 00:00.45 | qupada | manually from the 'run command' dialogue |
| 00:04.19 | _Atomo64_ | qupada: same |
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| 00:05.08 | qupada | _Atomo64_: you can just 'chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord' (and cdrdao) if you like, should have the same effect |
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| 00:06.23 | qupada | that is about all k3bsetup does |
| 00:08.09 | _Atomo64_ | now it just tells me that cdrecord will run without root privileges... |
| 00:08.16 | _Atomo64_ | but I chmoded both |
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| 00:08.32 | qupada | well 4755 should set suid root, odd |
| 00:09.03 | qupada | if you run ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord do you see -rwsr-xr-x ? |
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| 00:11.06 | _Atomo64_ | yes |
| 00:11.30 | qupada | damn |
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| 00:11.36 | qupada | ok, that's me out of ideas |
| 00:11.57 | mikearthur | does anyone here use kdeutils? |
| 00:13.25 | _Atomo64_ | mikearthur: not me |
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| 00:21.37 | Alethes | _Atomo64_: hang on a sec, I know how to fix this |
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| 00:22.58 | _Atomo64_ | Alethes: ok |
| 00:23.15 | _Atomo64_ | btw, how can I reopen the arts daemon after it crashed?? |
| 00:23.40 | Alethes | http://www.abo.fi/~jmunsin/gcombust/FAQ.shtml |
| 00:23.41 | Alethes | item #2 |
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| 00:35.46 | Chamuco | on install I mounted a existing fat32 partition(from windows) where I keep my docs, Now I have mounted it in /home/chamuco/documents using partioner from yast but when i try to change permisions using konqueror as su it tells me I have insufficient access why? |
| 00:36.12 | Chamuco | join #linux |
| 00:39.15 | mikearthur | you are trying to partition a mounted volume |
| 00:39.22 | mikearthur | it doesn't like that Chamuco |
| 00:39.38 | Renze | Chamuco: you're trying to change permissions for files on a filesystem that doesn't use permissions? |
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| 00:41.59 | _Atomo64_ | Alethes,qupada: k3b was still giving the error msg because there are two other cdrecord programs... I had to chmod those too |
| 00:43.02 | Renze | why would you have three versions of cdrecord installed? |
| 00:44.19 | _Atomo64_ | Renze: 3 versions? no, cdrecord is a script and then there is cdrecord.mmap and cdrecord.shm |
| 00:44.37 | Renze | ah, must be a binary distro thing |
| 00:44.48 | _Atomo64_ | debian :) |
| 00:44.52 | Renze | no wonder |
| 00:45.05 | _Atomo64_ | kwin |
| 00:45.40 | _Atomo64_ | kwin |
| 00:45.51 | _Atomo64_ | gepericoma12 |
| 00:45.52 | _Atomo64_ | kwin |
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| 00:54.08 | squash | Morning folks. I'm looking for a way to tell kde to use ~/.kde-[hostname] to prevent conflicts between different distributions. I am using nfs home directories. Anyone have a trick? |
| 00:54.41 | squash | dists are gentoo and kubuntu, kde is varied 3.4 and 3.5 versions |
| 00:54.48 | Renze | set the KDEHOME env var? |
| 00:56.35 | squash | that easy huh? testing. |
| 00:57.58 | mhall | squash: there's always getting rid of gentoo |
| 00:58.03 | mhall | squash: that works wonders :P |
| 00:58.15 | Chamuco | what does this mean in fstab? /dev/sda5 /home/test vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 |
| 00:58.57 | mhall | Chamuco: which part's the problem |
| 00:59.11 | _Atomo64_ | Chamuco: that /dev/sda5 is mounted in /home/test with the vfat file system, with the gid=users and umas=0002 enabling utf8 |
| 00:59.35 | stoned | who is using FAT? |
| 00:59.38 | stoned | :( |
| 01:00.02 | stoned | eliminate that disgrace of a File System from your life mate |
| 01:00.03 | stoned | :) |
| 01:00.04 | mhall | Chamuco: it means take sda4 mount it as vfact on /home/test, user-mountable, group owner of files is users, file mask is 0002, utf-8 active (which could make things interesting on vfat i suppose) |
| 01:00.13 | chrisag | stoned: I use fat for a storage drive. |
| 01:00.17 | stoned | mhall, hi there :) |
| 01:00.28 | mhall | stoned: what would you rather have him do? fat and linux or ntfs and no linux |
| 01:00.46 | stoned | mhall, my opinion was not a solution, it was a suggesstion |
| 01:01.09 | stoned | eliminate windows from your life, professional and personal |
| 01:01.17 | stoned | that is how I abelieve, you don't have to believe as I do |
| 01:01.18 | stoned | :) |
| 01:01.33 | chrisag | beliefs like that drive away newcomers ;) |
| 01:01.41 | stoned | I teach music for a living |
| 01:01.46 | chrisag | and Linux needs all the new comers it can get. |
| 01:01.51 | stoned | I don't have to worry about windows in my professional life |
| 01:01.59 | stoned | chrisag, true very true |
| 01:02.27 | benklop | i bought a laptop reecently, came with windows |
| 01:02.46 | benklop | i find it amazing how backwards windows feels after a few years without it |
| 01:02.57 | stoned | benklop, doesn't it though |
| 01:02.59 | stoned | featureless |
| 01:03.11 | stoned | can't do what you want, limits you |
| 01:03.39 | benklop | not just featureless but to find the configurations or to do anythinguseful you have to bend yourelf to make it work |
| 01:03.45 | Chamuco | well I cant I have a windows machine and all my files docs are there |
| 01:03.49 | stoned | I have XP running side by side, mostly because I mod Diablo II |
| 01:03.58 | stoned | and the modding tools only work natively underwindows |
| 01:03.59 | _Atomo64_ | heyeheyeheey.... what can I do if kwin, xine, amarok, kmail, etc. are crashing? |
| 01:04.20 | _Atomo64_ | they were working fine two hours ago :rolleyes: |
| 01:04.28 | stoned | _Atomo64_, what did you do within the two hours |
| 01:04.33 | benklop | heh |
| 01:04.34 | stoned | must have done something |
| 01:04.54 | _Atomo64_ | stoned: nothing new... I think, but I've been installing some apps |
| 01:04.55 | stoned | think hard and try to remember everything you did |
| 01:04.59 | stoned | which apps? |
| 01:05.07 | stoned | what distro? |
| 01:05.11 | stoned | what version of kde |
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| 01:05.43 | _Atomo64_ | debian etch, i686 2.6.15 |
| 01:06.08 | _Atomo64_ | KDE 3.5.2 |
| 01:06.22 | stoned | well, if you don't mind waiting another half hour*depending on your speed*or if you have a cd* |
| 01:06.41 | squash | so when kdm starts you a session, it ignores ~/.profile.. Is there a file it will read that I can set env variables in? |
| 01:06.51 | stoned | apt-get --purge remove kde* && apt-get update && apt-get install kde |
| 01:06.59 | stoned | this is somewhat extreme |
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| 01:07.07 | _Atomo64_ | I think that the only major new package I ninstalled was the en_gb pack for KDE and I haven't rebooted since I did so... but kwin crashed, so I had to restart kdm |
| 01:07.13 | stoned | I don't really know what to tell you besides this, if this happens again |
| 01:07.19 | stoned | file a bug with the debian BTS |
| 01:07.22 | stoned | also try #debian |
| 01:07.26 | stoned | or #debian-kde |
| 01:07.54 | _Atomo64_ | I don't even use the kde package... too many unecessary packages |
| 01:08.13 | stoned | either way, what is your current setup? |
| 01:08.25 | stoned | and which kde apps are you trying to run under that DM/wm |
| 01:08.45 | _Atomo64_ | setup of what? |
| 01:08.47 | stoned | you said kwin so I guess you are running kde-core |
| 01:09.05 | _Atomo64_ | yup |
| 01:09.06 | stoned | just minimal kde desktop |
| 01:09.07 | stoned | ok |
| 01:09.11 | stoned | and then you did what? |
| 01:09.11 | _Atomo64_ | kde-core with many apps |
| 01:09.33 | stoned | are any of those apps NOT from the official etch repository |
| 01:10.47 | _Atomo64_ | just mplayer |
| 01:10.53 | _Atomo64_ | *AFAIR |
| 01:11.02 | stoned | and kmail also crashes |
| 01:11.18 | stoned | when do you see this behaviour? spontaneous crashes? or can you reproduce the behaviour? |
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| 01:12.13 | stoned | just do as I said I guess see if that works, it won't wipe your settings, those stay in ~/.kde/ |
| 01:12.23 | _Atomo64_ | and I also installed like ksplash-engine-moodin ... which "fading splash screen engine for KDE" |
| 01:12.37 | _Atomo64_ | now kmail is not crashing anymore |
| 01:12.46 | _Atomo64_ | but I still don't get to reopen artds |
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| 01:12.51 | _Atomo64_ | *artsd |
| 01:12.55 | _Atomo64_ | and then... no sound |
| 01:13.05 | stoned | killall -9 artsd && artsd |
| 01:13.35 | _Atomo64_ | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-root/localhost.localdomain-3b07-44515c34) |
| 01:13.35 | _Atomo64_ | There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... |
| 01:13.35 | _Atomo64_ | ... cleaned 5 unused mcop global references. |
| 01:13.59 | stoned | I personally dislike arts |
| 01:14.03 | stoned | its very latency prone |
| 01:14.06 | stoned | slow as fuck |
| 01:14.11 | Renze | and crash prone |
| 01:14.11 | stoned | I use alsa w/ dmix |
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| 01:15.54 | stoned | arts lagged my system too much with amarok. xine keeps it happy though |
| 01:16.09 | stoned | so I just use alsa/dmix it small and works great |
| 01:17.35 | _Atomo64_ | I normally use xine, but byesterday it was giving me some problems,a dn now when I try to change to xine amarok crashes and tries to send a repor via kmail |
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| 01:19.01 | arrinmurr | is it possible to add mplayer in the "Open With" menu so that it would work this way: "mplayer [somevideo] -loop 0" - so that the name of the file being opened would be passed to mplayer before the "-loop 0" option? |
| 01:20.11 | _Atomo64_ | I that I'll reboot... maybe with all the installed programs I need a reboot |
| 01:20.24 | _Atomo64_ | *to |
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| 01:35.32 | orangey | hey all! |
| 01:35.41 | Halitherses | how can i search for duplicate rows in a openoffice calc document? |
| 01:35.53 | orangey | I have an HTML file that I wish to send as a message.. how may I do this from KDE (or, verily, anywhere in linux) |
| 01:35.53 | orangey | ? |
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| 03:59.35 | cleit0n | hi.. i'm tryng install kbfx in debian but i do: ./configure do this error: configure: error: cannot find sources (acinclude.m4) in . or .. |
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| 04:10.28 | dipnlik | hi all. when i insert my SD card in my card reader, kde pops up a window with the folder contents. how can i stop this? |
| 04:10.59 | dipnlik | it is doing it because once i checked the option to not show the dialog again, but now i need to show the dialog |
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| 04:16.53 | flaccid | can u make the desktop icons auto arrange? |
| 04:18.12 | Renze | dipnlik: kcontrol -> peripherals -> storage media, notifications tab, select "Unmounted Removable Medium" in the dropdown, highlight "Open in New Window", and click "Toggle as Auto Action" button |
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| 04:19.53 | _root | ~ |
| 04:19.55 | _root | [[ |
| 04:20.40 | _root | exit |
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| 04:22.21 | dipnlik | Renze: it worked here on my kde 3.5.2 . on my friend's 3.4.3 it doesn't work |
| 04:22.39 | Renze | that's because that feature doesn't exist in 3.4.3 |
| 04:22.52 | dipnlik | oh i see |
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| 04:23.15 | dipnlik | thanks a lot Renze :) |
| 04:23.19 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:29.47 | man-d | hello. What have I doing wrong : KDE and for example Konqueror don't remind my preferences. I don't have error displayed. Firefox doesn't start and thundebird can't create the first profile (can't write). Sorry the bad english. I'm using sarge stable with KDE 3.3.2 |
| 04:30.01 | man-d | ops |
| 04:30.18 | man-d | the mesage is not displayed |
| 04:30.22 | man-d | hello |
| 04:31.21 | man-d | my KDE preferences are not applied. what have I doing wrong ? |
| 04:31.39 | canllaith | what are the permissions on your home directory ? |
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| 04:34.27 | man-d | drwxr-xr-x |
| 04:34.42 | canllaith | what about on all of the . files in your home directory |
| 04:34.56 | man-d | the same permissions |
| 04:35.24 | canllaith | Interesting. That sounds a heck of a lot like a problem with permissions. |
| 04:35.34 | canllaith | Can you create a new user, and just check that the new user has everything working fine? |
| 04:36.13 | man-d | of course, thank you |
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| 05:25.43 | enot | Hello! How to get rid of shadows under text? |
| 05:26.24 | Renze | right-click, Configure Desktop, Background, click Advanced Options |
| 05:27.07 | enot | uh, there it is |
| 05:27.22 | enot | i just missed that button, thank you |
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| 06:13.34 | nautiazn85 | Im currently using the AIM protocol in KOPETE, and I was curious if there is anyway to rearrange groups i kopete? |
| 06:13.50 | nautiazn85 | currently its sorted by alpha. |
| 06:13.57 | benJIman | I don't think so |
| 06:14.31 | nautiazn85 | thats pretty lame |
| 06:14.43 | benJIman | well it's not that important |
| 06:15.16 | nautiazn85 | yah it is when you have like 500 people on your contact list |
| 06:15.20 | Renze | nautiazn85: feel free to submit a patch to the authors |
| 06:15.23 | benJIman | that's what the search is for |
| 06:15.41 | benJIman | you could always label them 0 <name> 1 <name> or something |
| 06:16.01 | benJIman | easiest way is not to use groups at all, and use the search to find people |
| 06:16.17 | nautiazn85 | b l a h |
| 06:16.32 | benJIman | it's far quicker than looking through the list |
| 06:16.40 | benJIman | when you have several hundred contacts |
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| 06:52.51 | raddy | Hello Eveerybody |
| 06:52.54 | raddy | Howdy |
| 06:53.51 | raddy | is there any developmeng going on for new sound server for KDE that is aRts replacement? |
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| 06:57.32 | Renze | raddy: afaik KDE4 will not use arts |
| 06:58.33 | cenuij | http://phonon.kde.org |
| 06:58.46 | Renze | yes, the new multimedia framework |
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| 07:01.47 | raddy | i saw new Desktop Environment based linux distribution using Qt4 , anybody remember its name? |
| 07:02.29 | benJIman | most distros probably include Qt4 |
| 07:03.53 | raddy | benJIman: no, i saw a KDE alternative Desktop Environment using Qt4 |
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| 07:07.54 | canllaith | That's very unlikely raddy - KDE's Qt4 port is not stable enough |
| 07:08.54 | mobtek | I'll side with canllaith :P |
| 07:09.16 | raddy | canllaith: i already said na, it is not KDE, a new desktop environment writen using Qt4 from ground up |
| 07:09.38 | canllaith | Hrm, interesting. |
| 07:11.09 | mobtek | raddy: url? |
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| 07:13.09 | raddy | i found it, it is called Mockup. but their site is not loading currently, anyway here it is http://www.mockup.org/ |
| 07:13.48 | raddy | here is the interview and some screenshots http://qt4.digitalfanatics.org/articles/mockup.html |
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| 07:16.59 | mobtek | pity the site is down |
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| 07:27.53 | thiago | that interview is mostly a praise of Qt4 :-) |
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| 07:29.01 | raddy | thiago: yeah. really |
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| 07:29.09 | cenuij | sooo just another lightweight desktop, but based on qt4 |
| 07:29.27 | cenuij | it might find its way onto my boot cd in a few years |
| 07:30.34 | raddy | thiago Really? |
| 07:30.54 | thiago | heh, last time a guy started a desktop environment in Qt, he became a VP in Trolltech :-P |
| 07:31.00 | thiago | (Matthias Ettrich) |
| 07:31.01 | raddy | cenuij: what boot cd are you developing/ |
| 07:31.15 | thiago | (the KDE founder) |
| 07:31.42 | raddy | thiago: ohh |
| 07:32.03 | cenuij | raddy: it's just my own personal one, for those 'oops' moments |
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| 07:36.35 | raddy | thiago:does simplekde still alive? |
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| 07:40.41 | thiago | raddy: we have no idea |
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| 07:40.53 | thiago | raddy: it's disappeared from the news -- again |
| 07:42.37 | raddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.34 | twosouls82 | is it possible to use a kio in a non-kde application? perharps using a piece of software? |
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| 07:48.23 | xushi | congrats on phonon |
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| 07:49.44 | raddy | phonon : rockx |
| 07:52.39 | thiago | twosouls82: yes, you have to link to libkio or implement the wire protocol yourself |
| 07:52.54 | thiago | twosouls82: the communication with klauncher (the application that starts kioslaves) is done with DCOP |
| 07:53.02 | thiago | the communication with the slaves is a much simpler format |
| 07:53.17 | twosouls82 | thiago: thnx, I was already reading it (using Google) |
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| 07:53.46 | twosouls82 | thiago: I want to enable it in all existing apps |
| 07:54.24 | PhilRod | sounds like you want kio-fuse |
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| 08:01.21 | thiago | twosouls82: you may want to take a look at the fuse-kio project |
| 08:01.59 | twosouls82 | thiago: already comiling it, thanx :P |
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| 08:02.52 | twosouls82 | PhilRod: also thanks, I missed you |
| 08:03.16 | PhilRod | np |
| 08:04.07 | twosouls82 | PhilRod: will that be part o fkde 4? |
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| 08:05.53 | PhilRod | don't think so - it only works on linux IIRC (and not BSD etc) |
| 08:09.29 | twosouls82 | what a shame |
| 08:10.03 | thiago | fuse works on FreeBSD |
| 08:10.09 | thiago | but fuse-kio will not be part of KDE4 |
| 08:10.12 | twosouls82 | it should be part of kde (like other stuff not needed by others (kdeaccess..)) |
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| 08:38.21 | RockMan | ciao |
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| 08:39.58 | zwerg | Hi there. |
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| 08:40.52 | zwerg | Some time ago I was able to set "greyscale hinting" in kcontrol's font settings. This is not possible anymore. Does anybody know why? |
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| 08:41.46 | Renze | zwerg: just turn off subpixel hinting, and it will use greyscale |
| 08:43.57 | zwerg | Yeah, it used to. |
| 08:44.13 | zwerg | But since my last dist-upgrade it doesn't anymore. |
| 08:44.23 | Renze | works fine here, although greyscale antialiasing looks bad on an LCD |
| 08:44.47 | zwerg | Maybe a temporary problem then. |
| 08:45.10 | Renze | I wouldn't know... I don't need dist-upgrades |
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| 08:45.15 | zwerg | That's what everybody is telling me but I don't see no difference to CRTs ;-) |
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| 08:46.02 | Renze | I do |
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| 08:49.26 | zwerg | Hmm... My dpi-value is also wrong. Is that changable with KDE tools? |
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| 08:50.17 | PhilRod | no, I think you have to change that in your x config |
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| 08:55.16 | zwerg | I remember starting the Xserver with -dpi 96. Is there a better way? |
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| 08:58.59 | PhilRod | presumably you can set it in xorg.conf, but I don't know how offhand |
| 08:59.10 | zwerg | Okay, thanks. |
| 08:59.38 | Chryseus | one way is to set Xft.dpi in .Xresources |
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| 09:14.03 | Renze | Sear: stop spamming, loser |
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| 09:14.43 | Parkotron2 | !ops |
| 09:15.26 | qupada | Parkotron2: i did a /stats p and asked the only listed freenode staffer, they said they couldn't do anything |
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| 09:16.33 | Parkotron2 | Someone should be able to ban him/it. |
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| 09:17.07 | CVirus | Sear: cut this crap .. will ya >? |
| 09:17.07 | CVirus | >? |
| 09:17.09 | CVirus | ? |
| 09:17.43 | intrade | kik the dumass |
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| 09:18.40 | doktoreas | morning guys.. |
| 09:18.45 | intrade | hi |
| 09:18.48 | doktoreas | wich file need to modify to get autologin? |
| 09:18.53 | intrade | anyone got op? |
| 09:19.03 | intrade | what linux? |
| 09:19.12 | CVirus | huh ? |
| 09:19.39 | intrade | doktoreas: what linux |
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| 09:23.26 | doktoreas | i need autologin in kdm |
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| 09:25.22 | Renze | doktoreas: kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager, convenience tab, but you'll have to click on Administrator Mode at the bottom first and enter the root password |
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| 09:27.46 | shimondav | how can i choose larger resolution than 800*600 which is the highest option in Kdesktop to select? |
| 09:28.54 | Renze | shimondav: edit your X configuration file |
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| 09:29.37 | Renze | shimondav: KDE uses whatever resolutions you have added to X config |
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| 09:40.25 | Renze | they don't have lives, obviously |
| 09:41.05 | CVirus | LOL |
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| 10:06.34 | MatBoy | Hi ! What is a good scp-interface for kde ? |
| 10:06.54 | AnMaster | konsole? ;) |
| 10:07.09 | PhilRod | fish:/ in konqueror |
| 10:07.18 | Renze | mmmmm... fish... |
| 10:07.20 | PhilRod | It Rocks(TM) |
| 10:07.32 | AnMaster | sounds fishy |
| 10:07.34 | CVirus | it does :D |
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| 10:22.41 | Rayman | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fish |
| 10:22.47 | Rayman | I was looking for something like this |
| 10:22.59 | Rayman | scp -r is so 80s |
| 10:23.25 | Renze | hey, everything old is new again |
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| 10:23.35 | mikearthur | the console is the new gui |
| 10:23.47 | mikearthur | ncurses is the new qt |
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| 10:32.45 | pinotree | canllaith: :) |
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| 11:10.53 | Isil`Zha | hi. can i somehow make the mouse pointer stay the same regardless of where it is atm? for example it shouldn't change its shape when using firefox |
| 11:12.05 | AnMaster | hm |
| 11:12.26 | AnMaster | maybe set the cusor theme for X? |
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| 11:12.45 | Renze | sounds like a good guess to me |
| 11:12.49 | Renze | that's what I did |
| 11:17.23 | Isil`Zha | i did |
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| 11:17.43 | Isil`Zha | that's why it feels so strange now. before that the pointer was pretty much the same |
| 11:17.49 | munzir | Hi, I am using adept how can I see the changelog of a pacakge I want to upgrade? |
| 11:18.07 | Renze | since when is adept a KDE app? |
| 11:19.20 | easytiger | using kde version 3.4.2lb.. how come konquoror no longer accepts globbing |
| 11:19.41 | easytiger | eg "/home/me/*.jpg" whould show all .jpg files only? |
| 11:19.41 | munzir | Renze: isn't it? |
| 11:19.46 | easytiger | used to work! |
| 11:19.55 | Renze | munzir: nope |
| 11:20.12 | munzir | Renze: sorry then ;) |
| 11:20.53 | Renze | it works in konqueror in KDE 3.5.2 |
| 11:21.19 | easytiger | it used to work when i was on suse 9.3 |
| 11:21.33 | Renze | maybe the packager messed up? |
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| 11:29.31 | munzir | Renze: I am using KDE 3.5.2 and as easytiger said /home/me/cv* showed me folders "cvs, Desktop, Documents, ... , all hidden folders) what's this? |
| 11:30.01 | PhilRod | works fine here (self-compiled sources from svn) |
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| 11:30.32 | Renze | munzir: I have no idea, but I did /home/renze/wallpaper/*.png and it only showed me the PNG images. KDE built from source. |
| 11:30.56 | tim | hi, i'm trying to customize the colors of kde ... works fine, but i can't change the background color of the konqueror ... |
| 11:31.00 | munzir | Renze: Umm! It seems it shows all the files properly but also displays all the folders |
| 11:31.01 | tim | am i missing something? |
| 11:31.03 | PhilRod | it shows all directories, as well as files that match the pattern |
| 11:31.11 | munzir | Renze: no folder is shown to you? |
| 11:31.23 | Renze | munzir: I have no folders in that directory |
| 11:31.26 | PhilRod | tim: view -> config bg |
| 11:31.29 | PhilRod | in konq |
| 11:31.42 | munzir | Renze: try it from a folder full of folders please and see |
| 11:32.04 | Renze | munzir: it doesn't seem to work for folders, but I'm not surprised at that |
| 11:32.05 | munzir | easytiger: is this your case too? |
| 11:32.13 | Renze | but it works for files |
| 11:32.21 | tim | PhilRod: ah, wonder full ... shouldn't this setting be at the same place, where to configure the font color? |
| 11:32.24 | easytiger | no..its not working for files |
| 11:32.27 | munzir | Renze: why? it shouldn't dispaly the folders atl least, no? |
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| 11:32.41 | Renze | munzir: why not? |
| 11:34.00 | PhilRod | tim: maybe |
| 11:34.03 | PhilRod | !lunch |
| 11:34.56 | tim | hm ... doesn't change the behaviour of the kdevelop file-tree, though |
| 11:34.59 | munzir | Renze: it should work as "ls *.jpg" would this display folders? |
| 11:35.48 | Renze | munzir: take it up with the authors, if you want... but I have no problem with it as it is now. Those folders may contain jpgs. :) |
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| 11:37.58 | munzir | Renze: if the folders contain jpgs, I wouldn't have object. konqueror would then be very smart but it's not the case. *.jpg showed me _all_ the folders even if they are blank |
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| 11:38.25 | Renze | munzir: again, I don't have a problem with this. if you do, take it up with the authors. |
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| 11:38.48 | munzir | easytiger: please file a bug in behalf of me ;) // I don't have a problem with this this ;) |
| 11:39.09 | easytiger | its very odd. perhaps there is a setting for it? |
| 11:39.20 | Renze | easytiger: not that I'm aware of |
| 11:39.41 | munzir | easytiger: which distro? |
| 11:39.54 | easytiger | suse 10.0 amd64 |
| 11:40.06 | munzir | easytiger: and which kde version? |
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| 11:40.24 | easytiger | 3.4.2lb |
| 11:40.58 | munzir | easytiger: so I would say it was broken in 3.4 and fixed partially in 3.5. You need to update before filing the bug |
| 11:41.24 | easytiger | hmm. i can't recall what kde suse 9.3 had but it worked well |
| 11:41.36 | canllaith | 3.3 |
| 11:41.39 | easytiger | is it a big deal to update kde from source? |
| 11:41.58 | canllaith | You can try using konstruct, that makes it a bit easier |
| 11:42.16 | canllaith | http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/ |
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| 11:42.41 | easytiger | thanks canllaith |
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| 11:42.43 | israel | http://israel.275mb.com/index3.php http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm http://www.business.dcn.co.il/ |
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| 11:42.59 | canllaith | oh ugh he's putting 'the outer limits' on |
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| 12:08.38 | mhterres | morning |
| 12:08.49 | Desintegr | afternoon |
| 12:08.54 | Renze | evening |
| 12:09.03 | mhterres | :-) |
| 12:09.18 | Desintegr | night ? |
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| 12:09.51 | Renze | well, technically it's after midnight here, so it is night |
| 12:10.24 | Desintegr | 12:10 UTC |
| 12:10.36 | Renze | Sat Apr 29 00:10:08 NZST 2006 |
| 12:11.05 | Desintegr | ven avr 28 14:10:53 CEST 2006 |
| 12:11.05 | pinotree | ven apr 28 14:11:02 CEST 2006 |
| 12:11.15 | Desintegr | already tomorrow for you Renze :) |
| 12:11.23 | Renze | yup |
| 12:11.29 | Desintegr | pinotree: tiens toi tu dois pas habiter loin :) |
| 12:11.42 | Desintegr | hum |
| 12:11.45 | pinotree | eeeeeeeeeh? |
| 12:11.45 | spyro_boy | Fri Apr 28 08:11:41 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2006 |
| 12:11.50 | Desintegr | pinotree: sorry |
| 12:11.53 | spyro_boy | er.. |
| 12:11.58 | spyro_boy | anyway lol |
| 12:12.07 | Desintegr | pinotree: I read « avr » instead of « apr » |
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| 12:12.29 | pinotree | Desintegr: french? |
| 12:12.33 | Desintegr | pinotree: yes :) |
| 12:13.02 | pinotree | s/SO/SW/ |
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| 12:14.51 | Desintegr | I live here : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&om=1&hl=fr&q=45750+saint+pryve+saint+mesmin+france :) |
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| 12:16.56 | mhterres | Sex Abr 28 09:16:50 BRT 2006 |
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| 12:23.29 | wahjava | hi group |
| 12:23.31 | CVirus | hussam: an arab you are ? |
| 12:23.45 | hussam | CVirus: yes |
| 12:23.50 | erle- | hi guys |
| 12:23.55 | wahjava | anybody can solve my Konqueror doubt ?? |
| 12:24.02 | erle- | is there a way to limit the upload in kde's konqueror? |
| 12:24.05 | CVirus | hussam: where are you from ? |
| 12:24.15 | wahjava | What is meant by "Use language encoding" in Konqueror font options |
| 12:24.21 | wahjava | ?? |
| 12:24.25 | erle- | for example if you upload some large files onto your webserver by ftp? |
| 12:24.32 | hussam | CVirus: Egyptian origin but I live in Lebanon |
| 12:24.40 | erle- | or sftp |
| 12:24.42 | CVirus | hussam: eh dah ? enta masry ? |
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| 12:25.32 | wahjava | anybody ?? |
| 12:25.45 | hussam | CVirus: yes sir. |
| 12:25.55 | CVirus | hussam: ana masry too :-) |
| 12:26.44 | wahjava | What is meant by "Use language encoding" in Konqueror font options ?? |
| 12:26.50 | hussam | CVirus: then it is good that there are KDE fans in Egypt ;) |
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| 12:27.18 | CVirus | hussam: there is a GNU/Linux User Group in Egypt .. #EgLUG :-) |
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| 12:31.43 | wahjava | Or I'm asking in wrong group |
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| 12:36.07 | hussam | CVirus: Yes I was there one. I was asking about udev |
| 12:36.26 | CVirus | hussam: you're welcomed at any time then |
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| 12:43.42 | xushi | sup all. is there any way to tell the screensaver not to kick in when i'm watching a movie? it's getting tedious to enable/disable it every once and a while. |
| 12:45.44 | Desintegr | which app ? |
| 12:45.56 | benJIman | kaffeine will disable screensaver automatically |
| 12:46.01 | Desintegr | I use Kaffeine/Xine, no problem with screensaver :) |
| 12:46.03 | benJIman | as do xine and mplayer I think |
| 12:46.13 | benJIman | actually maybe mplayer doesn't |
| 12:46.37 | Desintegr | I think mplayer disable screensaver |
| 12:46.40 | Desintegr | with xset command |
| 12:46.43 | Renze | mplayer does |
| 12:47.03 | mobtek | but only in fullscreen? |
| 12:47.18 | Renze | not sure... I always use fullscreen |
| 12:47.34 | Renze | on the desktop on my TV :) |
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| 12:51.46 | xushi | for some reason mplayer/gmplayer here doesn't disable it |
| 12:52.04 | xushi | and yea, i tried fullscreen too |
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| 12:54.10 | xushi | is it good to have sse/sse2 as the use flags for mplayer on a centrino proccessor? |
| 12:54.25 | xushi | actually, i think that's more appropriate in #gentoo |
| 12:54.31 | Renze | yes |
| 12:54.39 | Renze | it is more appropriate in #gentoo |
| 12:54.44 | xushi | ta |
| 12:55.02 | xushi | so what do you think i should do regarding the screensaver? |
| 12:55.10 | xushi | any testing you'd like me to do ? |
| 12:55.31 | Renze | me? no... I'm going to sleep |
| 12:55.54 | qupada | xushi: my system still runs the screensaver with mplayer, xine or anything else running too, if you find a way around it, let me know |
| 12:56.11 | Zero_Kelvin | Hiyo. I've got a really annoying problem here which I haven't been able to figure out yet. I had a system lock-up the other morning, happened while my computer was running the screen-saver, and so, because there was zero response from keyboard, mouse, or network interaction, I shut down the computer - no, not rebooted, just turned off - and left it sit for a few minutes. I turned it back on and now KDE has very few, if any, fonts that display. It's as if they |
| 12:56.11 | Zero_Kelvin | t refreshed if the screen is showing anything new at all. It also seems to affect Firefox, but not much else. Any ideas? |
| 12:56.37 | xushi | good to know i'm not the only one with the problem qupada:) |
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| 12:57.51 | qupada | xushi: my attention span is short enough i usually end up playing tetris (ksirtet ftw!) while i watch videos anyway, so it becomes a non-issue |
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| 12:58.16 | Zero_Kelvin | It's occuring on what was 3.5.1, but I've updated Kwin and Kdesktop to 3.5.2, and it's still happening. I even reinstalled the X server's font server, but it's still happening. |
| 12:58.22 | xushi | qupada: same with me almost all the time, but nowadays my gf wants to watch movies as we eat etc.. and it becomes a hassle :) |
| 12:59.28 | qupada | does it still affect it if you fullscreen mplayer? |
| 12:59.41 | qupada | i haven't tried that in a while, can't remember what the outcome is |
| 12:59.53 | xushi | yes it does |
| 13:00.04 | xushi | i can try with another player to test if it helps |
| 13:00.54 | qupada | to be honest the only way i found around it is to set one of the 4 corners of the screen to disable the screensaver ('advanced' button in screensaver config) |
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| 13:02.15 | xushi | and what, just point the mouse there all the time ? |
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| 13:02.44 | FearMoth | using deKorator, the theme is supposed to have rounded corners, but where the border is supposed to be transparent, it's not.. anyone know how to fix it? decorator 0.3/opensuse 10.0 |
| 13:03.13 | qupada | xushi: yeah, you just leave the mouse pointer in the bottom of the screen and the screensaver doesn't start |
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| 13:05.10 | xushi | codeine on full screen apparently disables the screensaver.. |
| 13:06.06 | qupada | not suprising, it's a kde frontend |
| 13:06.31 | qupada | xine is xlib i believe and mplayer just does its own special thing |
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| 13:08.15 | xushi | gxine seems to disable it too |
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| 13:08.31 | xushi | i'll try gxine on small window now.. |
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| 13:10.08 | xushi | arf.. now the 1000 chinyin question.. which is the better media player... :) |
| 13:10.53 | xushi | kaffeine? o_O hmm, didn't try that before |
| 13:11.01 | xushi | what's special about it ? |
| 13:11.18 | qupada | well owing to my being on a 64 bit distro, and having a 32 bit copy of mplayer (capable of using win32codecs), and a 64 bit copy of xine (not), i use xome for the thing it is best for (dvd playback) and mplayer for everything else |
| 13:12.11 | qupada | as far as interfaces, mplayer works best from the command line, and xine-ui does the other job just fine |
| 13:12.28 | xushi | i don't get what the differehce is between using gxine, or kaffeine |
| 13:15.06 | xushi | so kmplayer is another frontend to mplayer, sameway gmplayer is, while kaffeine is another frontend to xine, similar to what gxine is ? |
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| 13:15.15 | easytiger | exactly |
| 13:15.35 | xushi | lovely.. so i guess my first step is to decide on either mplayer, or xine |
| 13:15.49 | easytiger | though mplayer on it's on runs really fast and is quite functional if you know the shortcuts |
| 13:16.07 | kucrut | xushi: kmplayer can use xine too |
| 13:16.19 | easytiger | kucrut: thats right i forgot :p |
| 13:16.29 | kucrut | ;) |
| 13:16.37 | xushi | easytiger: true, but i also want an interface that's very easy for my gf to use (she's afraid of linux although she likes how it looks) |
| 13:16.56 | qupada | mplayer's surround downmixer sucks the big one though, dvds sound awful played in mplayer, but fine in xine, with everything else equal |
| 13:17.12 | easytiger | xushi: another engine is VLC. but i dont really like using it |
| 13:17.22 | xushi | < sony vaio with crappy intel chipset :) |
| 13:17.24 | qupada | not to mention mplayer doesn't have dvd menu support |
| 13:17.43 | easytiger | xine is handy for dvds is right |
| 13:17.47 | kucrut | qupada: it has, in recent cvs |
| 13:17.59 | qupada | that doesn't count |
| 13:18.03 | kucrut | hahaha |
| 13:18.11 | easytiger | i also use xine engine in amarok |
| 13:18.12 | kucrut | ok then ;) |
| 13:18.20 | qupada | xine has had dvd menu support in release versions for at least 3 years that i remember, and probably longer |
| 13:18.26 | hussam | CVirus: do you have a nice color scheme for KDE? The greyish one that ships with kde 3.5.2 is getting a bit dull. |
| 13:18.27 | xushi | good point, i use xine engine in amarok too |
| 13:18.39 | easytiger | amarok rocks :p |
| 13:19.01 | kucrut | sure thing |
| 13:19.23 | easytiger | beta3 is especially promissing |
| 13:19.42 | CVirus | hussam: the gentoo purple one is KooL |
| 13:19.46 | xushi | codeine's off the list. whenever i staranother app, it jerks and lags big time while it loads |
| 13:20.22 | kucrut | easytiger: nah, the sound is awfull |
| 13:20.24 | easytiger | if you try xine you should also try the aa-plugin |
| 13:20.24 | qupada | kmplayer is, in my book, at least tolerable, since it gives you both options |
| 13:20.31 | kucrut | i just downgraded to beta2 |
| 13:20.31 | hussam | CVirus, could you save it from kcontrol and send it to me? |
| 13:20.40 | easytiger | kucrut: i've noticed no issues |
| 13:20.45 | CVirus | hussam: I bet you wouldnt like it :D ... will do anyway |
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| 13:21.07 | kucrut | easytiger: well i guess you have decen soundcard+speakers |
| 13:21.11 | kucrut | decent* |
| 13:21.26 | CVirus | hussam: any idea where is it saved ? |
| 13:23.01 | hussam | CVirus, in kcontrol, navigate to 'Appearance and themes' > colors. Select the color scheme and click 'save' |
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| 13:23.11 | CVirus | hussam: where is it saved then ? |
| 13:24.18 | CVirus | inorder to send it to u |
| 13:24.18 | hussam | CVirus, ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ |
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| 13:24.46 | CVirus | hussam: Thats KDE 3.4.4 |
| 13:24.49 | CVirus | 3.4.3* |
| 13:25.16 | CVirus | lemme find it |
| 13:25.21 | CVirus | gimme a minute |
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| 13:28.30 | CVirus | hussam: its not there http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php?page=1&search=1&type=0&name=gentoo&user=&text=&sort=0&scorefilter=0&licence=99 |
| 13:28.42 | CVirus | but there are alot of better color schemes there |
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| 14:00.38 | sam^ | moin |
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| 14:05.15 | ahmuck_jr | hi, i am looking for a graphical network representation simililar to etherape but for qt/kde based distrobution. any suggestions ? |
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| 14:10.54 | granda | is someone using qt designer? |
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| 14:11.35 | bUscher | I am using it, but just to "click" the forms |
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| 14:12.18 | granda | when i add kde widgets, the sources don't compile |
| 14:12.52 | bUscher | error message? |
| 14:13.00 | bUscher | (compile error) |
| 14:13.49 | granda | it can't find the header files |
| 14:14.13 | granda | e.g. kdatewidget.h |
| 14:14.44 | bUscher | add the kde include dir to your project |
| 14:15.42 | granda | project -> project settings? |
| 14:15.53 | bUscher | ide? |
| 14:17.03 | granda | the qt designer |
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| 14:18.08 | bUscher | no I mean you must add the kde include dir in your *.pro file |
| 14:18.09 | granda | mainform.cpp:(.text+0xe41): undefined reference to `KDateWidget::KDateWidget(QWidget*, char const*)' |
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| 14:19.58 | CVirus | where the hell can I change konsole font colours ?! |
| 14:20.00 | justanotheruser | guys, there's a problem with input boxes/webforms in konqueror. It doesn't handle it right in some way. Let me explain my problems...(can take a few minutes) |
| 14:20.40 | granda | yes, it is added (also by changing project -> project settings). but now i get this message |
| 14:20.42 | granda | mainform.cpp:(.text+0xe41): undefined reference to `KDateWidget::KDateWidget(QWidget*, char const*)' |
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| 14:21.01 | bUscher | justanotheruser explan it here is nice, but dont forget to report ist to bugs.kde.org =) |
| 14:21.10 | granda | CVirus: settings -> colorscheme ? |
| 14:21.37 | CVirus | granda: there is no such thing ! |
| 14:22.05 | bUscher | there is such a thing O.o |
| 14:22.27 | granda | in the konsole menu. maybe you hided it? |
| 14:22.53 | granda | normally you can type ctrl+m to show the menu, but this doesn't work for the konsole |
| 14:23.57 | CVirus | the menu is there |
| 14:24.05 | CVirus | but there is no colour sheme under settings |
| 14:24.09 | CVirus | there is sheme only |
| 14:24.15 | CVirus | and it doesnt change the font colour] |
| 14:24.29 | justanotheruser | on phpBB forum, when i login, the site says i am login but when i want to reply for example, i have to login again. I've seen this in breezy, and dapper seems to have this issue as well. (yes i havn't changed settings and yes it worked fine from the installing of breezy/dapper-> took some time for the bug to get active(?) |
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| 14:26.36 | justanotheruser | The other problem i had was with a ADSL telco-hop, for the people that doesn't know what it is: you get transfered for one network to another without the normal downtime because no ADSL signal. Now the webforms on demon.nl and xs4all.nl doesn't work right and have me costs lots of trouble. |
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| 14:28.03 | justanotheruser | that you have to login twice on a forum is fine... but that you get trouble because konqueror doesn't handle forms right is an dangerous example of this bug |
| 14:28.12 | allix | how can i change a path ? |
| 14:28.14 | allix | kde path |
| 14:28.21 | allix | after the installation |
| 14:29.13 | allix | kcm_kcmgtk.la not found in paths , after i succesfully compile http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20042 |
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| 14:29.32 | justanotheruser | any thoughts of what really should be in the bug report? (i am not so experienced with reports :( ) |
| 14:29.50 | _lxuser | lxuser |
| 14:30.00 | _lxuser | hallo |
| 14:30.27 | markey | wtf |
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| 14:33.45 | justanotheruser | i could off course ignore this bug and start using firefox. But other will get frustated for sure |
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| 14:34.59 | mhterres | justanotheruser: It's the properly manner of do this kind of stuff |
| 14:35.28 | mhterres | justanother: cause another users can have the same problem, and if you report a bug they'll know that it'll be fixed |
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| 14:38.40 | justanotheruser | mhterres: yes i agree, but i the problem is that i don't even know where the problem is, and when i tell the bug only pops up after days/weeks usage of konqueror (every time in installed fresh breezy or dapper i had it though), nobody will look at it. (but that's just me seeing that there's nothing done with some bug reports i already did) |
| 14:39.02 | CVirus | guys .. I cant change my konsole font color .. its is stuck to lime and I cant change it ! |
| 14:39.05 | mhterres | hmmm, now I see |
| 14:39.42 | CVirus | this is turning me angry |
| 14:40.17 | justanotheruser | CVirus: hit settings> sceme |
| 14:40.22 | justanotheruser | *scheme |
| 14:41.06 | CVirus | justanotheruser: the font's colour still doesnt change with different shemas |
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| 14:43.14 | justanotheruser | CVirus: have you tried changing the scheme in settings of konsole? Scheme green on black *should* change the font color |
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| 14:44.20 | CVirus | justanotheruser: now I knew whats wrong .... what is the config file that defines how cvirus@MainFrame ~ $ is displayed ? |
| 14:44.35 | CVirus | i edited it and I dont recall its name |
| 14:44.51 | eidolon | hey folks, after a recent apt-get upgrade, my 'kontact' is crashing with a SIGSEGV on startup. The best I can extract from the crash handler: #5 0xb54d070c in KMFolder::noContent () from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so |
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| 14:45.22 | CVirus | damn |
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| 14:45.37 | CVirus | justanotheruser: thanks thanks ... its gentoo that does it by default |
| 14:45.39 | CVirus | sorry |
| 14:45.42 | CVirus | stupid me |
| 14:45.47 | PhilRod | eidolon: try with a new user to see if it's a config problem |
| 14:46.03 | eidolon | hmm. |
| 14:46.26 | justanotheruser | CVirus: /home/user/.kde/share/apps/konsole |
| 14:46.47 | CVirus | justanotheruser: its not that too |
| 14:46.49 | CVirus | I got it |
| 14:47.01 | CVirus | brb |
| 14:47.33 | eidolon | PhilRod: is there an easy way to do that other than logging out and back in under someone else? |
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| 14:48.14 | feindbild | hi =) |
| 14:48.20 | ahmuck_jr | hi, i am looking for a qt/kde program similar to etherape |
| 14:48.49 | feindbild | ahmuck_jr: no such thing =/ |
| 14:49.26 | feindbild | at least non that I know of .... I was looking for something like that too because I can't compile etherape ... |
| 14:50.03 | eidolon | brb, gonna try this under a new user. |
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| 14:54.30 | eidolon | well, nuts. logging in under a different user did not cause the crash. |
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| 15:01.37 | PhilRod | eidolon: since it's a kmail crash, it's probably a problem with old index files or maybe some message that's making it crash |
| 15:01.40 | justanotheruser | btw, for the Dutch people here, here's my failure with konqueror while doing a telco-hop: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/25647238#25647238 |
| 15:03.04 | PhilRod | eidolon: do you know where your mail is stored? (it varies with distro, kmail version etc) |
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| 15:04.06 | eidolon | i... think i'm on the trail. i do -everything- through imap... and i changed a location of my imap folder tree with an upgrade, and i think some of my identities were pointing at folders that didn't exist anymore. i got it to start (running it from the command line), and i'm fixing my identities now. |
| 15:04.13 | bluevector | can i have kate do a character count for the current document, or display the charcter count on the same status bar that shows line and col #'s |
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| 15:07.13 | ahmuck_jr | feindbild: kde monitor |
| 15:09.18 | justanotheruser | i've found a similar bug that i want to report, how can i reopen a "graved" bug? |
| 15:09.37 | justanotheruser | from http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/25647238#25647238 |
| 15:09.40 | justanotheruser | dam |
| 15:10.00 | justanotheruser | from 2000-11-10 02:03 (buggy klipper) |
| 15:10.13 | feindbild | ahmuck_jr: url ? |
| 15:10.27 | justanotheruser | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15046 |
| 15:11.47 | PhilRod | that's really old. You should probably just file a new bug |
| 15:12.25 | PhilRod | and it's probably not the same underlying bug that you're seeing |
| 15:12.43 | justanotheruser | alright, making a fresh one now :) |
| 15:13.45 | PhilRod | fwiw, note in the bug report that it's similar to that old bug |
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| 15:23.08 | geemark | where do I change the default font size for firefox, gaim etc (using KDE 3.5 if that matters) ?? |
| 15:24.04 | benJIman | those are gtk apps not kde, if you have gtk-qt installed you can adjust them in kcontrol, otherwise not |
| 15:24.08 | Sho_ | geemark: If you install the gtk-qt-engine, it adds a GTK control module to the "Appearance" section in KControl that allows you to set the default UI font for GTK applications |
| 15:26.03 | Nomad411 | argghh.. I just finally got thunderbird installed and it crashes too. Both Firefox and TB die as soon as I start them in a new installation of 10.0. I got them both through Yast. Where do I start looking for what's wrong? |
| 15:26.57 | tstaerk | Nomad411, in #suse |
| 15:26.59 | PhilRod | Nomad411: #yourdistro |
| 15:27.19 | Nomad411 | ooops, sorry, wrong tab.. :( |
| 15:29.07 | xushi | http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14466 |
| 15:29.09 | xushi | bah |
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| 15:32.04 | Ardonik | In other news, Netcraft confirms that BSD is dying. |
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| 15:46.44 | visik7 | xushi: I see it too but can't access to linuxboxadmin can you ? |
| 15:46.50 | tnks | Hi. I'm having problems with the latest Flash plugin working in Firefox, but not in Konqueror. |
| 15:47.01 | tnks | Is this a commonly understood problem? |
| 15:47.02 | xushi | visik7: ? |
| 15:47.09 | visik7 | the link |
| 15:47.17 | xushi | oh, |
| 15:47.20 | visik7 | http://www.linuxboxadmin.com/articles/gnomewon.php |
| 15:47.26 | visik7 | and I asj |
| 15:47.28 | visik7 | ask |
| 15:47.31 | visik7 | won what |
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| 15:47.51 | Ardonik | "The desktop war." Just a flamebait article. |
| 15:48.05 | xushi | visik7: i could back then, but now it seems dead |
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| 15:49.22 | visik7 | Ardonik: ya |
| 15:49.37 | visik7 | I hope that one day gnome and kde willbe a unique DE |
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| 15:50.21 | LnxSlck | visik7, that will never happen |
| 15:50.22 | Sho_ | visik7: Knome, eh? :-) |
| 15:50.31 | visik7 | LnxSlck: never say never again |
| 15:50.32 | Ardonik | Why would people want this, anyway? |
| 15:50.35 | ahmuck_jr | or Gnode |
| 15:50.38 | Ardonik | They're completely, uterrly different. |
| 15:50.47 | visik7 | Ardonik: reinvent the wheel is a bad thing |
| 15:50.48 | LnxSlck | of course |
| 15:50.49 | Ardonik | People don't ask for fluxbox and PekWM to unite |
| 15:50.51 | Sho_ | Ardonik: Not really ;) |
| 15:51.08 | LnxSlck | it's like macdonalds team up with burguer king |
| 15:51.19 | LnxSlck | that just doesn't make sense |
| 15:51.31 | Ardonik | If you're confused by there being *two* good desktops in Linux, I recommend picking one at random and going with it. |
| 15:51.32 | visik7 | it's a useless waste of time reinvent the wheel every now and then |
| 15:51.45 | visik7 | I'm not confused |
| 15:52.01 | Ardonik | visik7: it's not reinventing the wheel. KDE and GNOME are totally different frameworks on the inside. |
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| 15:52.28 | Ardonik | More choice is a really good thing. |
| 15:52.46 | Ardonik | Agreed, but it's always been a pet peeve of mine. |
| 15:53.19 | visik7 | ok time to go home |
| 15:53.20 | visik7 | bye |
| 15:53.42 | Sho_ | Ardonik: Well, there are certainly opportunities for incremental unification |
| 15:53.56 | Ardonik | Sho_: I certainly don't see these opportunities. |
| 15:54.10 | Sho_ | Ardonik: If you look at the window manager / composition manager area, for example, it's not impossible to imagime both KDE and Gnome ending up using the same common compiz-based codebase |
| 15:54.11 | Ardonik | Are you gonna tell the gedit people to stop working on their project and learn to hack kate instead, for instance? |
| 15:54.36 | Sho_ | Ardonik: A common IPC mechanism, D-Bus, is another good example |
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| 15:55.06 | PhilRod | yeah, collaboration and (friendly) competition aren't mutually exclusive |
| 15:55.14 | Ardonik | That's true. |
| 15:55.29 | xushi | tbh i think DEs now are very, very good, and the features they have are rich. What i'd be looking for now is better/improved/open-source? 3d accelerated drivers, and a push for 3d and power usage in DEs. |
| 15:55.39 | visik7 | kioslaves are great and would be great to be usable from gnome apps too |
| 15:55.41 | javier | ALGUIEN EN MEXICO? |
| 15:56.09 | Ardonik | ... |
| 15:56.56 | Sho_ | Ardonik: Text editors have come and gone. Applications are superceded and replaced by superior applications. It's not as much about moving from Gedit to Kate or vice versa, but about what will replace both - and it could be a common application. |
| 15:57.29 | Sho_ | Ardonik: Keep in mind Linux has a miniscule desktop market share in the grand scheme of things, and lots of change can and will happen while it doubles, quadruples, etc. whatever :) |
| 15:57.34 | Sho_ | Ardonik: So: Never say never :) |
| 15:57.48 | justanotheruser | okey: bug is supplied :) http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126429 |
| 15:57.51 | Ardonik | Sho_: coders don't abandon their projects on a whim. I think the unification you're speaking of will not happen. |
| 15:58.16 | Sho_ | Ardonik: I'm not saying it *will* happen, either, notably |
| 15:58.20 | Ardonik | Common frameworks, perhaps (look at freedesktop.org's efforts, for instance.) But GNOME and KDE will remain distinct |
| 15:58.37 | Sho_ | Ardonik: But I think it's possible in principle :) |
| 15:58.42 | Ardonik | meh |
| 15:59.10 | visik7 | unification will speed up development of new things, kde and gnome are great DEs but compared to OSX (that is the state of the art of UI) they are milion light years away |
| 15:59.20 | visik7 | imo |
| 15:59.30 | PhilRod | so use osx :-) |
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| 15:59.45 | visik7 | and I'm not just talking about 3d cool features |
| 15:59.54 | visik7 | but how the things are integrated |
| 16:00.01 | visik7 | Sho_: do u use OSX ? |
| 16:00.04 | PhilRod | you are forgetting (at least) one thing, which is that most people working on KDE and, I guess, gnome, do it for fun |
| 16:00.14 | visik7 | PhilRod: correct |
| 16:00.18 | Sho_ | Of course, the last 10% take 90% of the time as they say, and that's true for desktop polishing too ;-) |
| 16:00.28 | Sho_ | visik7: Yup, I own a 12" iBook |
| 16:00.37 | Ardonik | visik7: remember that many graphical Linux applications aren't written with either the QT *or* GTK frameworks, or, if written in them, don't follow the GNOME or KDE HIGs. |
| 16:00.54 | Sho_ | visik7: And I run Konversation, Konqueror, Kate, Konsole and amaroK in X11.app on OS X because it offers no decent alternatives :-) |
| 16:01.00 | tnks | Maybe I should rephrase my question. Does anybody get these "Your flash isn't up to date" warnings with Konqueror? |
| 16:01.16 | Ardonik | You won't see a unified look for Linux like you will for OSX because too many people write too many things for it. |
| 16:01.29 | Ardonik | I relish the variety of choices available. |
| 16:01.30 | visik7 | tnks: yes |
| 16:01.31 | Sho_ | tnks: Flash 8 isn't available for Linux yet, sadly |
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| 16:01.49 | PhilRod | justanotheruser: if you could find a particular site that has the problem you describe, and give the steps that a developer would need to take to reproduce the problem, it would make your bug report much more useful |
| 16:02.02 | visik7 | time to go |
| 16:02.17 | visik7 | campus close the doors |
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| 16:03.53 | justanotheruser | PhilRod: www.ktorrent/forum gives me problem nr.1 for instances (but from fresh install of linux all was fine) |
| 16:04.13 | justanotheruser | * www.ktorrent.org/forum (sry...) |
| 16:04.51 | tnks | Sho_: but I don't get it. All my pages work in Firefox with the latest Flash plugin. |
| 16:04.58 | tnks | just not Konqueror. |
| 16:05.07 | PhilRod | justanotheruser: please add a comment to the bugreport to say that |
| 16:05.19 | Sho_ | tnks: Have you verified that you have the Flash plug-in at all in Konq? |
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| 16:07.03 | justanotheruser | PhilRod: done |
| 16:08.55 | tnks | Sho_ I appear to have it. |
| 16:09.20 | tnks | Some most of the pages I'm looking at aren't the absolutely latest Flash (still 7). |
| 16:09.41 | Sho_ | tnks: hmhm |
| 16:09.47 | tnks | But installing a plugin shouldn't be rocket science. |
| 16:10.08 | tnks | The plug-in seems to be sensed by Konqueror. |
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| 16:11.20 | tnks | sorry. |
| 16:11.34 | tnks | I'm not sure what happened... my client burped. |
| 16:12.01 | tnks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.00 | PhilRod | tnks: don't paste messages - put them on a pasteboard (see topic) |
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| 16:16.50 | tnks | PhilRod: I didn't think I pasted messages... my client just acted up oddly. |
| 16:16.59 | tnks | (shouldn't happen again). |
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| 16:17.22 | PhilRod | oh, ok |
| 16:17.31 | tnks | Is this (http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#WhydoesKonquerorcrashoneverypagewithFlash) still current? |
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| 16:19.37 | Nomad411 | if I do rpm -q firefox, it says it's not installed.. Is there a different name? I also tried mozilla-firefox |
| 16:20.12 | mhall | tnks: does it still crash ;) |
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| 16:20.44 | PhilRod | Nomad411: EWRONGWINDOW again |
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| 16:21.26 | mhall | tnks: in any case i am pretty damn sure that there's no way it's current |
| 16:21.39 | tnks | mhall: okay. |
| 16:21.41 | mhall | tnks: gcc3 is endemic now and that document treats it as brand-new |
| 16:22.13 | Nomad411 | shoooot!! Sorry.. I have to make my fonts bigger :) |
| 16:22.18 | mhall | tnks: although i can tell you, since a few dist-upgrades ago (perhaps couple months now) firefox, konq, and flash have NOT been playing nice *at all* |
| 16:22.39 | Nomad411 | mhall: That's my problem now |
| 16:22.48 | Nomad411 | FF and Thunderbird in KDE on Suse. |
| 16:23.13 | xushi | "..... on Suse" , well, there's your problem ) |
| 16:23.14 | xushi | :p |
| 16:23.22 | xushi | j/k |
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| 16:24.22 | tnks | mhall: okay... that helps, because that's what I'm noticeing. |
| 16:24.41 | tnks | I'll just use Firefox for flash stuff until this is resolved. |
| 16:24.48 | mhall | tnks: firefox and konq routinely eat 96% cpu and force me to kill them |
| 16:24.50 | mhall | fuck |
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| 16:25.16 | xushi | mhall: i used to get that with flash on sites sometimes |
| 16:25.52 | mhall | Red_Cloud: so when are you gonna introduce me to your daughters ;) |
| 16:26.40 | Sho_ | tnks: Macromedia has said it would release 8.5 for Windows and Linux in close chronological proximity, I believe |
| 16:26.43 | Sho_ | tnks: 8 will be skipped |
| 16:26.59 | mhall | Sho_: and they said it will work on amd64 |
| 16:27.23 | Sho_ | mhall: Can't remember, as I don't own an AMD64 ;) |
| 16:27.25 | mhall | basically macromedia is stupid and they write most of it in asm even though we linux users have a fast OS and good HW |
| 16:27.50 | mhall | they insist that it's needed for performance but if this were true games would be written in asm |
| 16:28.10 | mhall | and games aren't so i think they are optimizing prematurely and it's negatively impacting their software |
| 16:28.21 | xushi | LOL performance... oh please =) seriously.. |
| 16:28.37 | Sho_ | Well, Flash is performance-critical software, that at least is true |
| 16:28.42 | mhall | also now that adobe bought them i sort of wonder if they will just fuck linux over in the end anyway |
| 16:28.43 | Sho_ | mhall: Source for "most of it in asm"? |
| 16:29.09 | mhall | Sho_: read macromedia developer's blog explaining why flash for linux sucks so much lately |
| 16:29.24 | Sho_ | Link? :) |
| 16:29.29 | mhall | Sho_: same place i learned about doing 8.5 and doing amd64 |
| 16:29.53 | Sho_ | mhall: Emmy Huang's blog seems to be down, sadly |
| 16:31.07 | mhall | Sho_: titty biscuits |
| 16:31.33 | mhall | i heard that 10% of desktops are linux now i.e. more than there are macs |
| 16:31.41 | mhall | does anybody have info to substantiate this |
| 16:32.33 | mhall | Sho_: ja ich bin ein zweifelder thomas auch |
| 16:32.43 | mhall | Sho_: ja ich bin ein zweifelnder* thomas auch |
| 16:33.06 | mhall | Here is why capitalization is important. |
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| 16:33.15 | mhall | I helped my uncle Jack off a horse. |
| 16:33.18 | mhall | I helped my uncle jack off a horse. |
| 16:33.26 | xushi | lol |
| 16:33.35 | xushi | ... |
| 16:33.36 | xushi | rofl.. |
| 16:33.39 | mhall | xushi: :) |
| 16:35.20 | tnks | Well, I'll just wait for this 8.5 Linux release... |
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| 16:35.20 | tnks | maybe that will solve something. |
| 16:35.40 | Desintegr | you can also help Gnash projet |
| 16:35.43 | Desintegr | http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ |
| 16:36.05 | xushi | mhall: the same mhall from calefornia? |
| 16:37.10 | tnks | Interesting... I didn't know about Gnash. |
| 16:37.51 | mhall | xushi: yeah i'm from california |
| 16:38.05 | mhall | xushi: note i'm nickserved mhall(+ei) |
| 16:38.22 | mhall | 09:38 -!- mhall [n=mhall@unaffiliated/mhall] |
| 16:38.24 | xushi | mhall: yea, but google is powerful :) |
| 16:38.28 | mhall | 09:38 -!- : is identified to services |
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| 16:39.27 | mhall | xushi: there are a lot of bullshit mhalls in my google search |
| 16:39.53 | xushi | hehe, well the two i concentrated on was a review about an english/ger book in amazon, and mhcomputing.net |
| 16:41.32 | mhall | yeah mhcomputing.net is pretty much the real mhall |
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| 16:43.01 | mhall | xushi: why do you ask btw? |
| 16:43.31 | benJIman | where did you generate the political profile from? |
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| 16:44.05 | mhall | benJIman: let me recall |
| 16:44.31 | xushi | mhall: nothing tbh, doing an essay on security atm, seriously bored, picked the first person infront of me to whois and to see how much i can find out about him/her in 5 min |
| 16:44.37 | xushi | the results were scary... |
| 16:44.45 | mhall | xushi: in which way scary |
| 16:45.09 | mhall | benJIman: sorry i just can't find it |
| 16:45.19 | benJIman | xushi: it's only scary if it's data the person didn't want to be available |
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| 16:46.00 | xushi | well, although your ip was masked by freenode, but just by googling your nick as well as full name, i got alot of info about you in amazon, sf.net, and other places, along with your email. i visited your web, found out some more things about your education and profession etc, then whois'ed your site to get info about your phone number, address, etc.. and finally, google map'ed you to find out your |
| 16:46.02 | xushi | exact location |
| 16:46.59 | mhall | benJIman: i've almost found it |
| 16:47.00 | Red_Cloud | mhail we are busy with graduation events at the moment. My youngest is getting her BS in Computer Science & Engineering and has been accepted in grad school. |
| 16:47.15 | xushi | it's just scary to me how much info can leak out if one's not careful |
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| 16:47.25 | xushi | congrats red, |
| 16:47.33 | mhall | xushi: well the thing is, i'm into network security |
| 16:47.40 | mhall | xushi: so i know it's happening and i don't care |
| 16:47.50 | xushi | heh, tell me about it.. :) |
| 16:47.59 | Red_Cloud | xushi thanks. I am quickly on my way to the poor house. |
| 16:48.03 | xushi | finishing my 2nd semester in network security atm myself.. bored out of my life |
| 16:48.06 | mhall | xushi: i'm 6'4" and i'm 230 lbs. and i carry knives and guns |
| 16:48.10 | xushi | LOL |
| 16:48.32 | mhall | xushi: if it's the government after me they'll get me no matter what |
| 16:48.53 | mhall | xushi: if it's an identity thief they'll never get my social security number, driver license number, or birth certificates |
| 16:49.05 | mhall | xushi: and if it's an asshole on the internet, i'll kick their ass |
| 16:49.14 | SAngeli | anyone know how to play a windows media player streaming on linux? |
| 16:49.24 | xushi | i wonder how easy it is to obtain one or all of them btw.. doesn't have to be through the means of a computer |
| 16:49.24 | mhall | Red_Cloud: well when you get done then ;) |
| 16:49.26 | PhilRod | SAngeli: xine or mplayer should do it |
| 16:49.44 | mhall | xushi: birth certificates are pretty easy to get |
| 16:49.56 | mhall | xushi: but that only works when somebody didn't already have a driver license before |
| 16:50.02 | Red_Cloud | xushi, you are the man that I need to talk to. I am trying to secure my OS and am in the throes of snort! |
| 16:50.02 | xushi | is identity theft a serious thing in usa ? |
| 16:50.15 | SAngeli | can someone try this link to see if it works, please? mms://digi04.digitalidentity.it:80/wmtencoder/15232234.wmv i got this off the web at http://www.radiosubasio.it/index.php |
| 16:50.19 | Red_Cloud | mhail, in what city do you live? |
| 16:50.24 | mhall | xushi: one they already have one (if you're a great big pickup truck driving redneck like me) then it doesn't work |
| 16:50.28 | SAngeli | I am unable to make it run under mplayer. the application freeze |
| 16:50.35 | mhall | Red_Cloud: modesto, CA, US |
| 16:50.46 | mhall | Red_Cloud: although i do roll out to grand junction fairly often |
| 16:50.58 | xushi | Red_Cloud: snort? isn't that extinct ? |
| 16:51.03 | mhall | SAngeli: it requires a proper media player |
| 16:51.16 | Red_Cloud | xushi, what has taken its place? |
| 16:51.18 | SAngeli | mhall: meaning? |
| 16:51.23 | mhall | benJIman: http://www.blogthings.com/liborconquiz/ |
| 16:51.32 | xushi | Red_Cloud: hmm, nmap i persume |
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| 16:51.37 | SAngeli | mhall: what proper media player do you refer to? |
| 16:51.48 | SAngeli | mhall: is not mplayer sufficient? |
| 16:51.49 | mhall | SAngeli: a media player capable of that protocol. it's pretty much going to have to be kplayer or kaffeine |
| 16:51.52 | Red_Cloud | mhail my daughters will most probably migrate to the coast with their profession, if silicon valley is still dynamic |
| 16:51.59 | SAngeli | I see. |
| 16:51.59 | xushi | Red_Cloud: http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ |
| 16:52.18 | mhall | Red_Cloud: yeah but i gotta meet em before they make it to man jose |
| 16:52.24 | SAngeli | mhall: but kplayer is a frontend for mplayer, isn't it? |
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| 16:52.29 | mhall | SAngeli: right |
| 16:52.41 | xushi | SAngeli: it's just a plugin/extension you need. mine plays wma here |
| 16:52.48 | xushi | so does xmms and amarok |
| 16:52.51 | xushi | do * |
| 16:52.58 | SAngeli | mhall: I see. how to find out if I have this plug-in? |
| 16:53.36 | xushi | SAngeli: whawt distro are you on ? |
| 16:53.41 | SAngeli | gentoo |
| 16:54.01 | xushi | SAngeli: do you have win32codecs emerged ? |
| 16:54.11 | SAngeli | I am running amd64 |
| 16:54.14 | SAngeli | let me check |
| 16:54.21 | xushi | hmm, dunno much about amd64 |
| 16:54.40 | xushi | basically, do an emerge -avt mplayer, and check the USE flags, of which includes win32codecs |
| 16:54.43 | SAngeli | yes I do |
| 16:54.45 | mhall | SAngeli: i don't think it's your fault necessarily |
| 16:54.56 | mhall | SAngeli: because it's not really working for me either |
| 16:55.02 | SAngeli | media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060302 USE="X aac aalib alsa arts bidi bl cdparanoia cpudetection custom-cflags debug dga directfb doc dts dv dvb dvd dvdread edl encode esd fbcon ggi gif gtk ipv6 jack jpeg libcaca lirc live lzo mad matroska nas nls nvidia opengl oss png rtc samba sdl tga theora truetype v4l v4l2 vorbis xanim xinerama xmms xv xvid xvmc -bindist -i8x0 -joystick -livecd -matrox -musepack -openal -x264" 0 |
| 16:55.09 | xushi | SAngeli: can you play a local wma file ? |
| 16:55.10 | SAngeli | media-libs/win32codecs-20050412 USE="quicktime" 0 kB |
| 16:55.28 | SAngeli | I belive so. Where do I get one? |
| 16:55.29 | mhall | xushi: N.B.: .wmv |
| 16:55.37 | SAngeli | right |
| 16:55.53 | SAngeli | got it ,. |
| 16:55.55 | SAngeli | let me try |
| 16:55.57 | xushi | ebaumsworld :) |
| 16:56.01 | mhall | Red_Cloud: you know since you always spell my name mhail i'm going to have to add it to irc highlight ;) |
| 16:56.08 | xushi | lol |
| 16:56.44 | mhall | xushi: i've been givin' ol Red_Cloud a hard time since i found out he has two computer scientist daughters |
| 16:57.02 | Red_Cloud | mhall, I do not know what to tell you. My daughters were heavy into figure skating for many years until they started college. It was a total devotion to figure skating. It kept them from becoming "boy crazy". Why figure skating does that I do not know. After beginning their college careers, they have been totally devoted to study. |
| 16:57.07 | xushi | give him credit for being on linux atleast :) |
| 16:57.17 | Red_Cloud | mhall, I have now noted the correct spelling of your moniker |
| 16:57.32 | mhall | xushi: in my case it's not even a moniker |
| 16:57.40 | mhall | xushi: it's my real name, as you found ;) |
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| 16:58.15 | xushi | ;) |
| 16:58.24 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i was always pretty square throughout school, got a 3.95 in high school |
| 16:58.27 | Red_Cloud | xushi, is bastille still useful? |
| 16:58.54 | SAngeli | xushi: yes, I am able to play it but without sound |
| 16:58.58 | mhall | Red_Cloud: in college i decompressed a lot though after going through some hard times in engineering until i moved out to CS and started working at the meta-level |
| 16:59.27 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i realized i needed more in my life than studies |
| 16:59.28 | xushi | Red_Cloud: hmm, never tried it. i'm trying to remember another security tool i once used for linux.. but damn my poor memory.. |
| 17:00.04 | xushi | SAngeli: try playing through the cli mplayer, and see what error comes up |
| 17:00.07 | xushi | regarding sound |
| 17:00.55 | mhall | dude xushi snort is *not* obsolete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snort_%28software%29 Latest release: 2.4.4 / March 08, 2006 |
| 17:00.59 | Red_Cloud | mhail, what I am trying to say is that they have never, ever, been on a date with anyone. They are 23 & 21 years of age. I am perplexed by such a lack of a social life, but they are content so far. They have never consulted me on the subject. |
| 17:01.35 | xushi | Red_Cloud: don'y worry too much about it. soon enough they'll be out in the real world. |
| 17:01.43 | mhall | Red_Cloud: wow. i didn't think there was anybody lower than me on that totem pole. |
| 17:01.49 | xushi | lol |
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| 17:02.02 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i've never gotten a second date with any girl in my life |
| 17:02.34 | mhall | then again i guess if i was a young woman i wouldn't go on a second date with me either :( |
| 17:02.46 | SAngeli | xushi: 1) how to find out why my sound does not play? what to select in audio? 2) what is cli mplayer? |
| 17:03.52 | Red_Cloud | mhall dating is so far in my past that I do not remember it. I have been married for 38 years. If I remember correctly I married my high school sweetheart and have been happy ever since. But do not quote me until I get my wife's opinion on that. |
| 17:04.14 | mhall | i did not go on any dates until my sophomore year of college |
| 17:04.23 | mhall | they are a real pain but there is nothing to be done |
| 17:05.04 | mhall | Red_Cloud: lol you don't even remember how you got married, that's hilarious |
| 17:05.16 | benJIman | what is sophomore? |
| 17:05.18 | mhall | my parents fight a lot and i get tired of their BS |
| 17:05.29 | mhall | benJIman: second year. btw did you see the political quiz link |
| 17:05.39 | Red_Cloud | mhail there is no advice that you need. Delay of a serious relationship will return much better dividends than you will suspect. |
| 17:05.45 | benJIman | did now |
| 17:05.52 | mhall | benJIman: years of american HS and college are as so: freshman sophomore junior senior |
| 17:06.26 | mhall | benJIman: it's a sophomoric system i guess ;) |
| 17:06.39 | xushi | SAngeli: in command line: mplayer foo.wma, and look at the output it gives you. other options give you the choice of what to select. Which audio? depends on what you're using, alsa, alsa/oss, oss. |
| 17:06.53 | xushi | SAngeli: direct the rest to #gentoo if you can, coz i'm gong to cook now |
| 17:07.04 | SAngeli | sure |
| 17:07.10 | Red_Cloud | mhall people argue and fight because they enjoy it. So let them enjoy |
| 17:07.11 | xushi | good luck, and bbl y'all |
| 17:07.21 | mhall | Red_Cloud: yes that's very true |
| 17:07.34 | mhall | Red_Cloud: if they did not like doing it at some level they would not bother |
| 17:07.48 | Red_Cloud | mhall, BINGO!! |
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| 17:08.02 | SAngeli | xushi: here is the output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xVOitj10.html |
| 17:08.09 | mhall | Red_Cloud: that's the most excited i've ever seen you ;) |
| 17:08.29 | Red_Cloud | mhall, I just had my coffee. |
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| 17:08.41 | mhall | Red_Cloud: you waited all the way to 10? |
| 17:10.25 | mhall | Red_Cloud: actually 11 for you. i lied. |
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| 17:11.18 | Red_Cloud | mhall yeah I ran out of wine at 9:30 |
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| 17:11.45 | mhall | Red_Cloud: you don't mess around |
| 17:12.05 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i'm still recovering from the mass quantity of heinekens i inhaled at a party yesterday, ehehe |
| 17:12.43 | Desintegr | Beer powered ? |
| 17:14.33 | feindbild | beeeer *drool* |
| 17:14.35 | Nomad411 | I'm looking for assistance with kmailcvt.. I have a folder with mail from Thunderbird 1.x that I'd like to bring into kmail, is this the place? |
| 17:15.29 | timri | Nomad411: It's the right place to ask... |
| 17:15.32 | Red_Cloud | mhall whenever I was in college I loaded beer trucks at night for a living. Mass quantities of beer, Coors & Heinekens. Kegs & cases. The floor of the warehouse was caked with beer from years of spillage. 2 or 3 inches thick. The smell of beer was everywhere. I became a none beer drinker at that time. I will probably drink a six-pack every 10 years. In face I believe that I have drank a six-pack since the year 2000. |
| 17:15.57 | timri | Nomad411: ...but if anyone has the answer? Who knows |
| 17:16.01 | mhall | Red_Cloud: yeah i imagine that would turn you off to beer |
| 17:16.22 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i don't usually drink much beer, i prefer to drink premium bourbon on the rocks |
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| 17:17.39 | Red_Cloud | mhall we were allowed to drink all the beer that we wanted at work and that fairly well assured that everyone developed a distate for the stuff. I prefer Canadian Club or Jack Daniels |
| 17:18.06 | mhall | Red_Cloud: i'm a maker's mark, wild turkey, and crown royal fan |
| 17:18.14 | mhall | Red_Cloud: on the rocks |
| 17:18.19 | xushi | SAngeli: first of all, your lirc isn't working, consider removing the use flag if you wont use it. Your audio, looks like it's got the codec installed.. double check to see if nothing's muted anywhere. And give alsa a try instead of oss. |
| 17:19.15 | Red_Cloud | mhall on the rocks is the only way. Only women need mixed drinks to cover a taste that they dislike. Men can probably drink strong rhino piss, if they are real men. |
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| 17:21.37 | xushi | being in uk, i got to know alot of russians and their 'propper' absinthe ;) |
| 17:21.37 | mhall | Red_Cloud: you're the father i never knew i had ;) |
| 17:21.38 | xushi | that sh*t's a killer |
| 17:21.38 | mhall | xushi: oh yeah i heard some stories about that |
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| 17:21.40 | mhall | xushi: a good percentage of fear and loathing in las vegas was absinthe fueled |
| 17:21.41 | freebob | is there anyway to put in .com automatically in konqueror (like ctrl+enter in firefox)?? |
| 17:21.43 | freebob | is their any alternative? |
| 17:22.03 | mhall | freebob: typing .com? ;) |
| 17:22.18 | xushi | mhall: gaaaaaaaay, i knew that was coming ;) |
| 17:22.24 | freebob | is that a no? |
| 17:22.34 | freebob | ... i guess so |
| 17:22.49 | mhall | freebob: seriously though i bet there's some way |
| 17:22.54 | Nomad411 | timri: Arghh.. It's so easy.. I got it :) |
| 17:22.56 | benJIman | not that I know of, you can set google i'm feeling lucky as default search engine like in firefox though if you want |
| 17:22.57 | mhall | freebob: let me see if i can get some info |
| 17:23.21 | timri | Nomad411: Well? :) |
| 17:23.33 | Nomad411 | It's running :) |
| 17:23.39 | Nomad411 | I,m importing it seems |
| 17:23.50 | timri | Nomad411: Cross your fingers |
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| 17:24.25 | mhall | freebob: sadly there's no kb shortcuts website for konq that i can find |
| 17:24.29 | Nomad411 | kmail should be as functional as thuderbird I hear? |
| 17:24.32 | mhall | freebob: so i'm afraid maybe you are sol |
| 17:24.34 | Nomad411 | thunderbird |
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| 17:25.04 | timri | Nomad411: For me it's way better, except some really annoying keybinbinds |
| 17:25.06 | xushi | anyone here knows what proc supports mmx2? |
| 17:25.16 | Red_Cloud | xushi, I am very interested in being educated in network security. Are you involved with a network security corriculum in a university or college? |
| 17:25.31 | benJIman | settings -> configure shortcuts shows the shortcuts |
| 17:25.37 | benJIman | but there's not one to fill in .com |
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| 17:26.11 | Nomad411 | hummmm.. It didn't respect the subfolders, what a mess |
| 17:26.45 | xushi | Red_Cloud: yes, i'm doing MSc in network security at the moment in anglia ruskin uni (Essex, UK) with CCNP (cisco). It's not bad, but alot of work. My advice, get to know networking and operating systems fully first, then dive into security with network security, ccnp/ccsp, and g00gle :) |
| 17:26.56 | timri | Nomad411: You _did_ cross your fingers, didn't you??? |
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| 17:28.38 | mhall | xushi: from what i am reading there is only one MMX and multiple SSEs |
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| 17:30.17 | Nomad411 | yes but it crossed the folders :) |
| 17:30.27 | timri | Nomad411: Heh |
| 17:30.38 | Nomad411 | There's no way to drag teh folders? |
| 17:31.09 | timri | Nomad411: What format was your mail in? In thunderbird i mean. |
| 17:31.22 | Nomad411 | mbox I believe |
| 17:32.12 | Nomad411 | .msf actually.. |
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| 17:32.17 | timri | Nomad411: So why not set kmail to use mbox format, create a dummy folder and overwrite the data with your mbox file |
| 17:32.37 | tstaerk | Nomad411, so, thunderbird still does not work |
| 17:33.00 | Nomad411 | Well it does, but my previous folder is from a 1.0x install and this thunderbird is 1.5. |
| 17:33.25 | Nomad411 | I've beenmeanign to give kmail a try anyway, so now my 1.5 will work when I need to test for someone, whil ei use korganizer and kmail |
| 17:33.40 | Nomad411 | Everythign works now that Baghira has been wiped off the HD ;) |
| 17:34.04 | tstaerk | Nomad411, what is Baghira ? |
| 17:34.32 | timri | Nomad411: How the heck can baghira interfere with that?? |
| 17:35.00 | timri | tsaerk: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Baghira |
| 17:35.25 | Nomad411 | no idea, but it kept Firefox and TB from running |
| 17:35.37 | Nomad411 | somethign about glib abd gtk/gdk |
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| 17:36.10 | timri | Nomad411: You have some seriously screwed up distro there :) |
| 17:37.22 | Nomad411 | :) |
| 17:37.31 | Nomad411 | I just left Kubuntu to test out Suse |
| 17:37.57 | Nomad411 | felt like a change.. and lookig for the ultimate easy dist. for people |
| 17:38.08 | timri | Nomad411: I love KDE, but kubuntu is a bit too much for me |
| 17:38.21 | mhall | timri: too much? |
| 17:38.29 | Nomad411 | it was slow and weird fo rme, I needed a new install anyway |
| 17:38.42 | Nomad411 | but baghira worked.. LOL |
| 17:38.49 | Nomad411 | probably what made it slow |
| 17:39.02 | timri | mhall: Ugly as sin, and a crowded Kmenu. |
| 17:39.14 | Nomad411 | I wonder if I imported from teh wrong spot too, I didn't get anything in my inbox |
| 17:39.29 | Nomad411 | I think I'll try again |
| 17:39.29 | mhall | timri: Alt-F2 is the shortcut for you |
| 17:39.45 | timri | mhall; you betcha :) |
| 17:40.07 | timri | mhall: Actually I have bound win+K to open up a konsole. Love it. |
| 17:40.20 | mhall | timri: win K for me is the K menu |
| 17:40.28 | Nomad411 | timri: good idea |
| 17:40.40 | mhall | timri: so for me konsole is Win R (run) ko-downarrow |
| 17:40.48 | mhall | timri: i have it hardcoded into my fingers now :) |
| 17:40.57 | Nomad411 | What's teh easiest way to drop what I imported in kmail? |
| 17:41.03 | mhall | timri: is that the most fucked up keybinding ever or what :) |
| 17:41.40 | timri | mhall: Neat, I also have Win+W for konki, Win+M for mail (Kontact) etc |
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| 17:42.11 | timri | mhall: Hey, whatever floats your boat :) |
| 17:42.29 | Red_Cloud | mhall, where may a person find the shortcuts for KDE listed? |
| 17:42.53 | Red_Cloud | mhall, hotkeys? |
| 17:43.15 | tstaerk | Red_Cloud, kcontrol -> Regional and Accessibility |
| 17:43.28 | Red_Cloud | tstaerk thanks |
| 17:43.51 | timri | Red_Cloud: and then Keyboard Shortcuts, Global shortcuts tab |
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| 17:44.10 | mhall | timri: i have 8 desktops and a GB of ram so i leave it all running |
| 17:44.41 | mhall | tstaerk: you were definitely stärker than me on answering that :) |
| 17:44.43 | timri | mhall: *cough* I only use 1 (ONE!) desktop. |
| 17:44.56 | mhall | timri: HIBT? |
| 17:44.59 | tstaerk | ;) |
| 17:45.24 | mhall | tstaerk: by the time i had it 1/4 typed you were done |
| 17:45.29 | Red_Cloud | timri, thanks for them |
| 17:46.01 | tstaerk | but I realized you know german |
| 17:46.33 | timri | mhall: If only that were true ;) |
| 17:47.38 | mhall | tstaerk: ja, ich kann deutsch sprechen |
| 17:47.55 | mhall | timri: just enable more virtual desktops. once you try it you can't stop. |
| 17:48.06 | timri | mhall: Ja bitte, wer kanns nicht... |
| 17:48.32 | tstaerk | wow, a french and a anglo-saxon speaking the hun's language ;) |
| 17:48.54 | timri | mhall: Perhaps, some day... But for now, i get by using konsole and a LOT of alt-tabbing. |
| 17:48.56 | tstaerk | I did not make that experience that you cannot stop adding virtual desktops ;) |
| 17:49.13 | timri | tsaerk: Comment? C'est moi le francais??? |
| 17:49.16 | tstaerk | timri, so, no worries that you will get addicted |
| 17:49.46 | tstaerk | timri, mais bien sur - regarde whois |
| 17:50.08 | timri | tstaerk: That's just my problem, I get addicted easily :) |
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| 17:50.27 | timri | tstaerk: Region != nationality |
| 17:50.32 | mhall | timri: bloody hell enable virtual desktops |
| 17:50.57 | timri | mhall: NOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......... *splat* |
| 17:51.04 | mhall | lol |
| 17:51.06 | tstaerk | timri, DON'T dare to enable virtual desktops |
| 17:51.30 | tstaerk | mhall, you see, this guy belongs to me |
| 17:51.55 | timri | tstaerk: ....................................oooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOON *unsplat* |
| 17:52.29 | mhall | tstaerk: http://kimsal.com/rabbit_pancake.jpg |
| 17:52.32 | mhall | timri: http://kimsal.com/rabbit_pancake.jpg |
| 17:52.57 | timri | mhall: Hehe |
| 17:53.13 | timri | mhall: Had a cat like that once... |
| 17:53.43 | timri | But anyway, can anybody give me some insight into |
| 17:54.09 | timri | howto get kopete to 'speak', as in 'use KTTS' |
| 17:54.52 | timri | Anyone? |
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| 18:02.14 | domi | hi |
| 18:02.51 | domi | does someone know how to have the thumbnails of videos in konqueror ? |
| 18:03.47 | PhilRod | install kdemultimedia, and hope your distributor built it with the appropriate support |
| 18:04.20 | domi | I installed it I am using kubuntu |
| 18:04.29 | CVirus | PhilRod: what is the appropriate support ? |
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| 18:05.34 | PhilRod | needs to find xinelib or something |
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| 18:06.19 | CVirus | got it .. the xine USE flag in gentoo |
| 18:06.23 | CVirus | just wanted to know :-) |
| 18:07.53 | SimAtWork | isn't gentoo great! |
| 18:08.07 | CVirus | indeed :-) |
| 18:11.13 | feindbild | no it isn't ^^ |
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| 18:16.13 | mhall | easy on the distro soapboxing guys |
| 18:16.21 | SimAtWork | bash scripting sucks |
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| 18:16.33 | SimAtWork | i dunno how people can write such complex bash scripts without going bonkers. |
| 18:16.34 | tstaerk | SimAtWork, what's your problem ? |
| 18:16.46 | SimAtWork | tstaerk: it's just all over the place. |
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| 18:16.53 | mhall | SimAtWork: it's a very high level language |
| 18:17.01 | SimAtWork | tstaerk: but i want to center some text on my lcd |
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| 18:17.07 | mhall | SimAtWork: except it has no object orientation |
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| 18:17.27 | SimAtWork | tstaerk: so i want to take a string, get it's length, take 32 - that length and then insert half the result of spaces in front of it. |
| 18:17.35 | mhall | SimAtWork: printf |
| 18:17.49 | SimAtWork | printf will do all that? |
| 18:17.52 | SimAtWork | please explain! |
| 18:17.53 | mhall | SimAtWork: some of it |
| 18:18.08 | mhall | let's see if we can work it out |
| 18:18.12 | tstaerk | mhall, you are right... did not know |
| 18:18.25 | mhall | SimAtWork: let us roll over to #bash |
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| 18:21.28 | timrii | Why oh why am i unable to IDENTIFY as myself (timri) |
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| 18:22.30 | DeadS0ul | wha, if you don't identify yourself, you can't talk in here.. |
| 18:23.19 | feindbild | DeadS0ul: which is kind of a good thing (tm) |
| 18:23.20 | timrii | DeadS0ul: I know, the problem is. I always IDENTIFY as timri, but the server says I have to choose another nick, |
| 18:24.22 | timrii | DeadS0ul: It was a 'dangling reference', if you will to a reset connection (problems on my side). Is it not logical I can (with a different IP) override this stale session? |
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| 18:24.48 | timrii | DeadS0ul: I mean: I did have the proper password and all... |
| 18:25.37 | DeadS0ul | it's 3am here, and i worked from 6am to 2am so...honestly I don't wanna think nor do I care atm |
| 18:25.42 | DeadS0ul | [ |
| 18:25.44 | DeadS0ul | =\ |
| 18:26.03 | timrii | DeadS0ul: :) |
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| 18:26.44 | DeadS0ul | whoa, that info just settled in. yes you are right, it is logical that you can overside that info with when you identify yourself |
| 18:26.48 | tech9iner | mhall olleH.. |
| 18:26.59 | DeadS0ul | infact that's what it's uppose to do if someone else uses your nick.. |
| 18:27.15 | mhall | tech9iner: greetings t9 |
| 18:27.28 | tech9iner | likewise chum |
| 18:27.51 | timrii | DeadS0ul: Yup, and that's annoying. |
| 18:27.55 | Nomad411 | Isn't Quanta Plus a KDE app? |
| 18:28.21 | DeadS0ul | Nomad411: yaeh |
| 18:28.27 | timrii | I would like to let Kopete 'speak' (through the KDE Text to speech system) is that possible |
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| 18:29.04 | timrii | I was thinking something like pipe the messages through std err, or somesuch... |
| 18:29.34 | DeadS0ul | that sounds annoying hehe |
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| 18:31.41 | Alethes | timrii: if there's not a plugin to do it, I imagine a combination of the notification with dcop piping the message content into festival would do it |
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| 18:32.20 | Alethes | actually |
| 18:32.25 | timrii | Alethes: I was thinking along those lines as well, but the specifics are a little vague (R) |
| 18:32.26 | Alethes | go to notification settings |
| 18:32.52 | Alethes | advanced |
| 18:32.57 | Alethes | hmmm |
| 18:33.03 | Alethes | you can print a message to stderr |
| 18:33.04 | timrii | Alethes: Yup |
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| 18:33.20 | Alethes | or excecute a program |
| 18:33.24 | timrii | Alethes: That part I got figured out :) |
| 18:33.34 | Alethes | but it doesn't mention a variable that is the message |
| 18:33.37 | Alethes | that's the part you'd want |
| 18:33.40 | backbone | can i show the kde en vars? |
| 18:33.53 | rikva | Hi. My display settings panel suddenly dissapeared in KDE. Does anyone know how to access it anyway? I'm getting a headache from 60Hz. |
| 18:33.58 | Alethes | timrii: one sec |
| 18:34.00 | timrii | Alethes: You see my problem.... |
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| 18:35.27 | backbone | rikva: kcontrol |
| 18:35.37 | rikva | backbone: Yah. it's not there. |
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| 18:36.45 | backbone | rikva: sorry :( |
| 18:36.52 | rikva | backbone: np :) |
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| 18:38.09 | backbone | uhm you can create a new setting panel with right button mouse and select add new panel, after add the applet |
| 18:38.25 | backbone | in this panel |
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| 18:40.39 | Alethes | timrii: just scanned through kdcop with no success |
| 18:40.48 | BabaLi | Hi, i am looking for a nice pdf viewer |
| 18:40.51 | Alethes | it would seem the last message would be available through dcop |
| 18:40.56 | timrii | Alethes: Mmm, thanks anyway |
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| 18:41.50 | timrii | Alethes: I can have kopete say "You have a new message", but that gets old after a while ;) |
| 18:42.07 | Alethes | yeah hehe |
| 18:42.16 | Alethes | I wouldn't mind that option myself |
| 18:42.21 | Alethes | gaim has a plugin for it |
| 18:43.23 | timrii | Alethes: Really? I have not yet tried gaim, as for now I try to keep it KDE only. (I don't even have libgtk installed, go figure) |
| 18:43.37 | Alethes | yeah, gaim is a pain |
| 18:44.42 | timrii | Alethes: ATM the speech thing and a kopete gui part for konqueror are at the top of my wishlist :) |
| 18:45.18 | Alethes | kopete for konq? |
| 18:45.26 | Chamuco | anyoone knows what to do if i get a libgsf 1.13.99.5 which is required by koffice but conflicts with gimp? |
| 18:45.30 | Alethes | like for a sidebar? |
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| 18:47.00 | timrii | Alethes: No, like: I type irc:/#kde@irc.debian.org and I get a kopete part showing the #kde channel |
| 18:47.28 | timrii | Alethes: I really like the split window thing, and that way the kopete folks have the tab stuff for free. |
| 18:48.05 | Alethes | ah ok |
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| 18:48.28 | Alethes | that'd pretty nifty |
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| 18:49.26 | timrii | Alethes: Yeah, it sounds the logical thing to do. And after that drag n drop to filter conversations.... and... and... sigh :) |
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| 18:50.34 | Alethes | haha |
| 18:51.06 | Alethes | konversation and kopete both need that little filter bar |
| 18:51.12 | Alethes | so you can type something in there to filter out lines |
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| 18:51.47 | Chamuco | what to do if i get a libgsf 1.13.99.5 which is required by koffice but conflicts with gimp? I don't want to delete either |
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| 18:52.30 | annma | it should not conflict |
| 18:52.35 | annma | libgsf-1_1-1.12.2-2mdk |
| 18:52.51 | annma | that's the one I have and there's no conflict |
| 18:53.10 | annma | Chamuco: what distro is it? |
| 18:55.36 | timrii | annma: Just read your blog: With you I'm excited at the arrival of QGraphicsView (finally :) |
| 18:55.41 | Chamuco | suse10 |
| 18:55.49 | Chamuco | I am using yast |
| 18:55.54 | annma | timrii: :) yes |
| 18:56.05 | annma | Chamuco: ask in #suse maybe |
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| 19:10.58 | FuriousGeorge | hi all |
| 19:11.13 | FuriousGeorge | i cant for the life of me figure out how to get the kdevelop debugger working with C |
| 19:11.29 | FuriousGeorge | im writing programs compiling and running em successfully. i can set break points |
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| 19:11.57 | FuriousGeorge | i see the variable evaluator side bar, but the program doesnt interrupt at the breakpoints |
| 19:12.21 | illogic-al | -> #kdevelop |
| 19:12.38 | FuriousGeorge | my bad |
| 19:12.44 | illogic-al | no prob. |
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| 19:14.20 | _Fieldy | hi :) I use kmail 1.9.1, in kde 3.5.2. I have some filters set up. Sometimes they are applied when mail is manually or automatically checked, other times I have to go to inbox, select all of them and ctl-j to force it. This seems completely random, and is annoying. is there something i'm missing? i'd like it applied any time mail comes in. |
| 19:15.11 | sredna | _Fieldy: Your conditions are not correct |
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| 19:19.42 | timrii | sredna: Forgive me for interrupting, but what do you mean? |
| 19:20.10 | _Fieldy | sredna: can you be more specific? the filters work fine when applied, but they are not applied all the time. |
| 19:20.24 | sredna | I mean, if if the filter is not applied, the conditions for selecting the mails are not correct |
| 19:21.13 | sredna | If you want to select ALL mails, do something like 'size > 1 byte' for condition |
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| 19:21.47 | _Fieldy | sredna: yep, i agree. maybe we aren't understanding each other. they're supposed to be applied when mail comes in, in any fashion, but they aren't. sometimes I have to ctl-a to select all the mail in inbox, then press ctl-j to get the filters applied. other times, i don't have to, they are just applied when it comes in. |
| 19:21.56 | _Fieldy | hm. i figured that would be default... let me look. |
| 19:22.39 | mhall | _Fieldy: 'lo |
| 19:22.54 | _Fieldy | lots of rules to go through. give me a moment. |
| 19:24.04 | _Fieldy | sredna: the only rules I have that specify size are things like spam check via spamassassin, none of my rules have size criteria. |
| 19:24.07 | sredna | _Fieldy: Also, look at the setting for ending processing in case of a match in all filters above the one in question |
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| 19:24.37 | _Fieldy | sredna: well, there isn't one in question at all, either all the filters are applied, or kmail doesn't even try and i have to do it manually |
| 19:24.37 | sredna | _Fieldy: Well, all filters have criteria |
| 19:24.48 | _Fieldy | not size though, only the ones i mentioned |
| 19:25.01 | _Fieldy | sredna: what am i looking for about ending a process, is it desirable to end or not? |
| 19:25.33 | _Fieldy | "if this filter matches, stop proccessing here"? |
| 19:25.54 | sredna | _Fieldy: Well, if a filter match that has the 'end processing' enabled, no more filters are tried for the matched message |
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| 19:26.38 | _Fieldy | sredna: hrm... okay, so let's say I have 20 filters (I do...). the top / first filter matches, it's applied and then it just stops there and doesn't even attempt to check any of the other mails new in inbox? |
| 19:27.09 | sredna | Yes, unless you disable that setting |
| 19:27.20 | sredna | It's in the advanced tab in my version of kmail |
| 19:27.46 | sredna | The label says 'if this filter matches, stop processing here' |
| 19:27.58 | timrii | _Fieldy: NO it just stops processing the 'current' message |
| 19:28.17 | _Fieldy | okay, then that's not the issue |
| 19:28.18 | sredna | Ah, sorry. It just stops for the current message |
| 19:28.32 | _Fieldy | lemme try to more clearly describe, shortly... |
| 19:28.34 | sredna | Well, look at your criteria |
| 19:28.44 | _Fieldy | the criteria doesn't matter, hang on... |
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| 19:29.46 | _Fieldy | i have auto checks, every few minutes mail is checked. it hits inbox. i also do it manually sometimes. either way, it seems sometimes the filters are applied, or not. when I say not, i mean it's not even attempting to apply the filters to anything in inbox. i have to ctl-a to select all, then ctl-j to force the filters to be applied, then the actions are taken. the filters themselves are okay. |
| 19:31.24 | sredna | I never had that problem! Kmail always tries the filters that it should when mail arrives (like you, automatically and in some occations by manually running a check) |
| 19:31.25 | _Fieldy | if I go silent hang on a second, this isp keeps dropping my connection :( |
| 19:31.53 | _Fieldy | right. that is the behavior i expect, but am only getting randomly. i can't find a pattern. |
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| 19:33.03 | _Fieldy | i actually wouldn't mind much, but it means i have to go there, ctl-a, which marks one of the messages as now read, then apply filters, they get moved to their folders, but that one message is now marked as unread. with the ammount of mail i get, that gets real annoying :( |
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| 19:34.08 | _Fieldy | only thing i can think of is to remove the stop processing checkbox, i think that's grabbing at straws though. |
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| 19:35.40 | piggz | anyone here use a minidv camcorder + linux..was wondering what the best software is for grabbing/editing/rendering to dvd is......kino? kdenlive? cinelerra? |
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| 19:38.22 | timrii | _Fieldy: From where I stand it looks like a bug. Is it a problem with all filters at the same time/do certain messages get filtered correctly? |
| 19:38.23 | benz | help |
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| 19:38.53 | timrii | benz: Ehh, let's hear it |
| 19:39.36 | benz | Ehh, sorry. meant to type /help. Though I do need some KDE help. |
| 19:40.07 | timrii | benz: Well, you're at the right place then ;) |
| 19:40.38 | _Fieldy | timrii: it appears that kmail does one of the two, on messages brought into inbox via auto or manual checks, and it seems random: 1) the filters as a whole (not specific filters) are applied 2) the filters as a whole (not specific filters) are not applied |
| 19:41.02 | benz | I'm running kde 3.5.2 in CentOS4, using rpm's from apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/redhat/ |
| 19:41.23 | _Fieldy | where 'applied' means kmail appears to be trying to filter the messages. 'not applied' meaning it doesn't even begin to try. that's my impression, anyway, maybe it's more complex behind the scenes. |
| 19:41.28 | benz | My latest yum upgrade (to 3.5.2) has killed some KDE configuration capacity. |
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| 19:42.24 | benz | For instance, I can't configure the KDE panel's appearance (no options for appearance show up in K Menu --> configure panel) |
| 19:42.26 | timrii | _Fieldy: OK, that's useful information. Just a hunch, but have you tried running kmail from the command line? |
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| 19:43.00 | benz | K Menu --> Menu Editor doesn't load the menu editor, but kmenuedit from the command line works fine. |
| 19:43.31 | benz | In Konsole, right-click -- > settings --> configure konsole doesn't do anything. |
| 19:43.34 | poler | must go NOW 2 sony vaio laptops price 450 each includes shipping case wireless router. message me on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com |
| 19:43.49 | _Fieldy | timrii: no, i Have not, but I will do that now. |
| 19:43.55 | _Fieldy | could someone get rid of poler... |
| 19:43.56 | benz | These are some of the problems I'm facing since the upgrade to 3.5.2. I've heard that they are basically redhat-based issues, but don't know how to fix them. Any suggestions? |
| 19:44.19 | _Fieldy | n/m told a friendly oper person |
| 19:44.46 | timrii | poler: Well that's just great I'm talking to an adbot now. |
| 19:46.28 | timrii | benz: Sorry, does not sound familiar |
| 19:47.03 | _Fieldy | timrii: running at command line now, will watch. |
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| 19:47.28 | poler | must go NOW 2 sony vaio laptops price 450 each includes shipping case wireless router. message me on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com |
| 19:47.39 | _Fieldy | damnit |
| 19:47.44 | _Fieldy | i'll try another oper. |
| 19:48.15 | _Fieldy | owned. |
| 19:48.22 | timrii | benz: Really far-fetched, but is there something screwed up in the commandline kmenu is passing? (check with kmenuedit) |
| 19:48.29 | _Fieldy | brb... |
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| 19:48.35 | timrii | _Fieldy: OK |
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| 19:48.44 | Fieldy | anyway |
| 19:49.23 | timrii | Fieldy: Wow, that was fast :) |
| 19:49.24 | Fieldy | curious. kmail is behaving as expected since i restarted it (it's been doing this for weeks though) |
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| 19:50.21 | timrii | Fieldy: Ah, the gould old fashioned ctrl-alt-del ;) |
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| 19:51.06 | timrii | benz: Still there? |
| 19:51.37 | timrii | Fieldy: s/gould/good |
| 19:51.46 | timrii | Field |
| 19:52.05 | desks | hi, im using suse 9.3 and my kde isnt working, it always says initialzing desktop system and it go back to login screen, and also when i press ctrrl alt f8 i have a black screen console, can someone help me? |
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| 19:53.49 | Alethes | rm timrii |
| 19:53.55 | Alethes | it's such a mess I'm gonna start fresh |
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| 19:54.02 | Alethes | the project manager is gonna kill me though |
| 19:54.04 | xushi | desks: check your X logs |
| 19:54.05 | timrii | Alethes: Heh |
| 19:54.10 | desks | how? :s |
| 19:54.33 | Fieldy | somewhere in /var/log most likely. |
| 19:54.36 | xushi | your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 19:54.47 | Kiruwa | has anyone else had a kopete issue where opening a chat window from the bubble popup causes X to lockup? (v3.5.1 and 3.5.2) |
| 19:55.02 | benz | timrii: yes, sorry. |
| 19:55.19 | desks | ok, but trough conosole? the only way i can acess is by pressing ctrrl alt f1 |
| 19:56.08 | benz | timrii: kmenuedit from the command line seems to run fine. |
| 19:56.32 | desks | ./Xorg.0.log or something? |
| 19:56.37 | timrii | benz: We already knew that :), but did you check the paths with kmenueditor? |
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| 19:57.20 | benz | timrii: sorry about that. I guess I don't understand what you're suggesting. How do I check the paths with kmenueditor -- what do you mean? |
| 19:59.29 | timrii | benz: start kmenueditor from the commandline, highlight a menu entry (say the one for kword, or whatever) look at the entry for 'command'... is it correct ? |
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| 20:01.36 | Fieldy | meh. nothing on STDOUT that seems to have anything to do with the issue i see, it's started randomly applying or not applying filters again. |
| 20:01.49 | benz | timrii: ah, sorry. yes, the commands are correct. there are no explicit directory paths in the commands of any kmenuedit entry as far as I can tell (e.g., 'kword %u') |
| 20:01.53 | timrii | Fieldy: AAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 20:01.54 | Fieldy | anyway thanks for the suggestions and time, but myself i've run out of time. i'll screw with it later, perhaps. |
| 20:02.46 | timrii | benz: Lack of explicit paths is not a problem, in fact, it is supposed to be like that. |
| 20:03.26 | timrii | Fieldy: Ok, and have a nice day/night/whatever ;) |
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| 20:05.01 | timrii | benz: At least: I have no idea how that could be a problem: the PATHs for both kmenu and the console should be the same (provided you use the same user under both). |
| 20:05.29 | timrii | Can someone help benz and me ? |
| 20:06.41 | benz | timrii: I guess I don't see what you're getting at. The menu entries which are accessible from kmenuedit seem to work fine within K Menu. One issue (among others) is that I can't call K Menu Editor from right-clicking K Menu. Nothing seems to happen. Other right clicks to K Menu work, sort of: they bring up options with very limited functionality. For instance, K Menu --> Panel Menu --> Configure Panel doesn't offer a tab to configure the appea |
| 20:06.41 | benz | rance of the taskbar. |
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| 20:06.59 | guilo | ya des français ici ? |
| 20:07.21 | timrii | guilo: Des francophones, ca compte aussi? |
| 20:07.34 | guilo | bien entendu |
| 20:07.38 | guilo | quebec ? |
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| 20:08.04 | timrii | benz: Oh crap crap crap: I misunderstood you (from the beginning probably) my apologies... |
| 20:08.24 | benz | timrii: that's OK. sorry for being unclear. I appreciate your help. |
| 20:08.41 | timrii | benz: You're welcome. |
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| 20:09.36 | desks | im getting this when trying to start kde "Could not start kstartupconfig.Check your installation." |
| 20:09.41 | desks | can someone help me with it? |
| 20:10.44 | timrii | guilo: Quebec??? Pour moi, c'est outre-mer :) |
| 20:11.19 | xushi | desks: try this first, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Could+not+start+kstartupconfig.Check+your+installation&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official |
| 20:11.38 | desks | oka :P |
| 20:12.02 | xushi | try installing kdm again |
| 20:12.07 | mhall | xushi: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search?q=Could+not+start+kstartupconfig.Check+your+installation =) |
| 20:12.08 | hussam | How do I pull kdeadmin from kde 3.5.x svn? |
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| 20:13.03 | xushi | mhall: LOL nice one! |
| 20:15.00 | annma | hussam: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeadmin |
| 20:15.25 | hussam | annma: ok thank you so much. |
| 20:15.25 | SimAtWork | is it possible to remap the keys that amarok uses ? |
| 20:15.37 | SimAtWork | i want to use my next and back keys instead of linkey+b etc. |
| 20:15.45 | SimAtWork | or linkey-c for pause |
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| 20:16.53 | annma | configyure shortcuts, SimAtWork |
| 20:17.02 | SimAtWork | annma: i've been looking |
| 20:17.05 | SimAtWork | maybe in the wrong spot? |
| 20:17.22 | Parkotron | SimAtWork: Configure Global Shortcuts. |
| 20:17.25 | SimAtWork | amarok itself doesn't seem to have them |
| 20:17.27 | annma | i don't hve amarok right now |
| 20:17.36 | SimAtWork | Parkotron: where do you see that option? |
| 20:17.37 | annma | in kcontrol then |
| 20:17.49 | SimAtWork | DOH |
| 20:17.52 | SimAtWork | Parkotron: thanks dude! |
| 20:18.00 | hussam | annma: how do I update later? 'svn co up' ? |
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| 20:18.10 | annma | hussam: svn up |
| 20:18.12 | Parkotron | You're welcome. |
| 20:18.17 | hussam | annma: k thanks |
| 20:18.50 | annma | co = check out, it's for the first time only |
| 20:19.45 | xushi | mhall: hehe, nice easter egg too |
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| 20:21.51 | desks | xushi: i tryeid reparing suse installation and it said some packages differ from original: aaa_base,dbus-1,hal,postfix,util-linux, repairing some of those u think kde start to work again or not? |
| 20:23.12 | xushi | well, if it doesn.t then you can just remove it all, and install again from scratch. |
| 20:23.51 | desks | hm, ok but repairing those packages may result in any problem with system? like programs not working? |
| 20:24.15 | annma | how do you repair them? |
| 20:24.24 | desks | at yast |
| 20:26.20 | illogic-al | making reservations for akademy sucks :-( |
| 20:26.22 | annma | you should be ok then |
| 20:26.40 | desks | ok thx i will repair aaa_base,hal and util |
| 20:26.52 | Q-collective | hmm, anyone inhere for who video.google.com just works? I get a grey screen instead of a player in konqueror :( |
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| 20:26.59 | Q-collective | I do hear sound though |
| 20:27.01 | Q-collective | just no player |
| 20:27.07 | rushfan | Hey, do you guys know how to customize your keyboard mapping? |
| 20:27.11 | annma | the best would be to reinstall all kde rpms as well, desks |
| 20:27.14 | xushi | works here Q-collective |
| 20:27.35 | desks | ok thx |
| 20:27.44 | Q-collective | xushi: Good for you, but I wasn't asking that |
| 20:28.06 | Q-collective | well, I was, but that was more of a retorical question anyway ^_^ |
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| 20:29.35 | xushi | =] |
| 20:30.45 | Q-collective | xushi: you know what could be wrong? ;) |
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| 20:33.13 | mhall | What do I need to install for k3b to burn MP3 tracks? |
| 20:33.34 | xushi | Q-collective: you got win32codecs installed correctly, yea ? |
| 20:34.05 | Q-collective | xushi: yup |
| 20:34.16 | Q-collective | perfectly fine |
| 20:34.16 | Q-collective | :) |
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| 20:34.51 | xushi | is it only from video.google? or do you get the same problem from other sites? take ebaumsworld for eg |
| 20:35.36 | Q-collective | only google |
| 20:35.47 | _Atomo64_ | hi Q-collective :) |
| 20:36.30 | Q-collective | hey |
| 20:36.38 | Q-collective | who are you again? :-) |
| 20:38.59 | _Atomo64_ | oO¡ |
| 20:39.11 | _Atomo64_ | *who=how? |
| 20:39.59 | oGALAXYo | yoda sits infront of the breakfast table and mumbles something like "the dark side this is"... and the voice of obiwan on the other side of the table replies "shut up yoda and eat your fuckin' toast". |
| 20:41.51 | mhall | Qt-collective |
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| 20:43.14 | mhall | oGALAXYo: and then mhall comes along and he's like "BITCH?!?!? Are you for real?" |
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| 20:46.20 | Nomad411 | I sit possible to get rid of the navigation bar in kontact? That column of icons on the left side |
| 20:46.27 | xushi | see ya all tomorrow! (zZz) |
| 20:46.39 | xushi | eys yes, i know, sleep is for the week... but gf... :p |
| 20:46.45 | annma | i think you can hide it |
| 20:46.49 | xushi | weak? week? |
| 20:47.03 | Nomad411 | annma: under settings but whether I check it off or not it remains |
| 20:47.40 | annma | Nomad411: hmm, maybe your package is broken |
| 20:48.06 | annma | just drag it to the left then |
| 20:48.18 | Nomad411 | you mean drag it shut? |
| 20:48.28 | annma | yep |
| 20:48.40 | annma | drag the separator to the left |
| 20:49.10 | Nomad411 | it worked.. I didn't realize it was an all or nothing.. It didn't shrink as I went, so I thought it didnt't work.. lol thanks |
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| 20:49.29 | annma | the hide toolbars does not work either here |
| 20:49.39 | annma | this is insane |
| 20:49.54 | Nomad411 | It would be nice if the folder in mail were draggeable |
| 20:50.49 | annma | of course noone answers in #kontact |
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| 20:51.36 | Nomad411 | there's a #kontact? Sorry, I'll go there :) |
| 20:51.59 | annma | naigator is not the thing on the left in fact |
| 20:52.27 | Nomad411 | ahhh |
| 20:52.40 | annma | it's the toolbar |
| 20:52.43 | Nomad411 | Sure did sound like a good name for it |
| 20:53.12 | annma | it has the same icons |
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| 20:57.25 | wrs_ | Hi! Is there a way to remap Home/End/Del/Ins/PgUp/Dn keys to other locations, e.g. to current Print/Scroll Lock/Break keys? |
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| 21:02.31 | Gwyth | How can I display a link to the current directory in Konqueror? (I cannot go up to the parent directory.) |
| 21:02.56 | Blissex | Gwyth: what does that mean? |
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| 21:03.19 | ticc | hi there |
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| 21:03.39 | Gwyth | well, I see the content of the directory (on the web) with many files that I need to download. I can download them one by one, but would be nicer to download the entire directory, Blissex, but I can't figure out how. |
| 21:04.17 | Blissex | Gwyth: thats not a directory really, it is a web page... |
| 21:04.48 | Gwyth | Well, then how can I download the directory (I am kinda totally clueless in this)... |
| 21:05.08 | Gwyth | without having to download each of the many files individually. |
| 21:05.31 | ticc | i have problem with compatability with gnome. I have change some options in it, eg. theme, and after going back to kde i noticed that all my fonts are smaller. Why is it so? Gnome can touch kde configs? |
| 21:06.07 | annma | did you change the dpi ticc ? |
| 21:06.14 | ticc | no |
| 21:06.26 | annma | what did you change then? |
| 21:07.09 | ticc | i selected i gnome conterol ceneter another theme, borders, decroations... that's all |
| 21:07.44 | annma | what theme? |
| 21:07.54 | Blissex | Gwyth: perhaps you can't do it with Konqueror. try using the command line 'lftp' tool perhaps. |
| 21:07.56 | ticc | my problem is: when running kde apps under gnome the fons are big, and when running them under kde they are small. How can i make both enviromets to have the same fonts? |
| 21:08.14 | annma | use a compatible theme |
| 21:08.26 | ticc | compatible theme? in kde? |
| 21:08.27 | Gwyth | Blissex: guess what I'll do, but it would surprise me if K can't do such a task... |
| 21:08.49 | ticc | but i didn't touch anything in kde |
| 21:09.17 | ticc | it looks like gonme has changed fonts :/ |
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| 21:27.41 | veno | Hi |
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| 21:29.53 | walber | hi there, I`d like a karamba theme that could show me the load of both cpus of my p4 HT.. such windows.. are there any? |
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| 21:34.39 | SimAtWork | walber: fyi. HT has been shown to actually reduce performance. |
| 21:34.44 | SimAtWork | walber: you might want to disable it. |
| 21:34.54 | SimAtWork | walber: i know of no such super karamba theme though. |
| 21:35.03 | SimAtWork | walber: but it probably exists! |
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| 21:36.18 | walber | HT reduces performance???? where did you read about? |
| 21:37.28 | SimAtWork | several places |
| 21:37.33 | ^^MAg^^ | hi, i keep trying to compile kde4 |
| 21:37.44 | canllaith | ^^MAg^^: .. why ? |
| 21:38.24 | ^^MAg^^ | i have an option "use-stable-kde false " but it keeps checkouting kde 3.5 branch |
| 21:38.32 | ^^MAg^^ | canllaith: to see how the development is going |
| 21:38.58 | SimAtWork | http://climate.ornl.gov/~forrest/walkers/performance/ |
| 21:39.16 | canllaith | I don't really think you'll get KDE4 support here. If you should be using it, you'll already know what you should be doing. |
| 21:39.16 | SimAtWork | http://climate.ornl.gov/~forrest/walkers/performance/ |
| 21:39.21 | canllaith | It's not for users right now, it's far too unstable |
| 21:40.22 | ^^MAg^^ | I'm actually a linux distro developer :) |
| 21:40.32 | SimAtWork | what distro? |
| 21:41.05 | Nomad411 | How do I had a "Show Desktop" button to the toolbar? |
| 21:42.28 | SimAtWork | Nomad411: you know, someone asked that a while ago and i never did find out |
| 21:42.40 | Nomad411 | I did? |
| 21:42.46 | SimAtWork | was it you? |
| 21:42.49 | SimAtWork | this was ages ago |
| 21:42.50 | Nomad411 | as in months I woudl think right? |
| 21:42.50 | canllaith | ^^MAg^^: then you should know how to get KDE4 built ;) |
| 21:42.55 | SimAtWork | yes! |
| 21:42.59 | Nomad411 | Ahh yes.. Good photo memory you have |
| 21:43.13 | SimAtWork | Nomad411: in kde 3.5.2 you can add applet - show desktop |
| 21:43.29 | Nomad411 | I did find out then and applied it, but I'm on a new distro now and it's teh last thing I ever thought of writing down :) |
| 21:43.31 | SimAtWork | possibly in 3.5.1 now! |
| 21:44.13 | Nomad411 | It's the first thing I looked for, but no tthere.. I'm trying out suse10 |
| 21:44.23 | Nomad411 | no idea which KDE |
| 21:44.25 | SimAtWork | what version of kde? |
| 21:44.27 | SimAtWork | check |
| 21:44.31 | Nomad411 | where? |
| 21:44.32 | SimAtWork | any kde app, go to help about |
| 21:44.50 | pinotree | or kanuapp --version from console |
| 21:44.50 | Nomad411 | kewl - 3.4.2 level b |
| 21:44.57 | SimAtWork | upgrade! |
| 21:44.58 | SimAtWork | that's old |
| 21:45.01 | Nomad411 | b = basement? |
| 21:45.23 | Nomad411 | We,ll see, I just installed it and I'm trying to get productive again |
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| 21:52.25 | yoruichi | anyone seen smileaf lately? |
| 21:52.35 | SimAtWork | not for a while |
| 21:52.40 | SimAtWork | !seen smileaf |
| 21:52.40 | DDB | simatwork: smileaf has been idle for 1 week 4 days 16 hours 50 minutes and 18 seconds, last line on freenode was: that I would agree |
| 21:52.59 | yoruichi | 11 days, wow |
| 21:53.15 | yoruichi | so DDB is a bot |
| 21:53.15 | SimAtWork | i was expecting longer |
| 21:53.22 | yoruichi | thanks SimAtWork |
| 21:53.35 | SimAtWork | np |
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| 22:10.01 | bigredradio | Anyone know what package KWiFiManager is a part of. I'm trying to yum install and can;t be found. Is this part of a larger package? |
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| 22:15.17 | Firztspawn | bigredradio: Im guessing its part of kdenetwork |
| 22:15.23 | benJIman | what distro? |
| 22:15.39 | benJIman | kdenetwork3-wireless on suse |
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| 22:16.51 | bigredradio | Thanks Firztspawn |
| 22:17.01 | lgsobalvarro | hi annma :D |
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| 22:17.18 | Firztspawn | oops |
| 22:17.43 | Firztspawn | bigredradio: in Gentoo its a package by itself.. kde-base/kwifimanager |
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| 22:20.53 | myren_ | random q, |
| 22:20.57 | myren_ | kate isnt highlighting my .cs file |
| 22:21.00 | myren_ | cant figure out why |
| 22:21.09 | myren_ | highlighting is enabled for .cs files |
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| 22:23.25 | myren_ | pain? help? |
| 22:27.20 | myren_ | how do i add mime types? |
| 22:30.48 | yoruichi | kcontrol > kde components > file assoc ? |
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| 22:35.31 | dyssy | hi there |
| 22:35.53 | yoruichi | hey |
| 22:35.58 | dyssy | I don't understand the behaviour of the font configuration on KDE: it seems |
| 22:36.02 | dyssy | that the application not started from the user I run use other font settings, |
| 22:36.03 | dyssy | not those I setted up in kcontrol. |
| 22:36.03 | dyssy | At the start of kde the fons of kwin, kicker, kdesktop,exec command, with |
| 22:36.03 | dyssy | relative |
| 22:36.03 | dyssy | menues and apps (the panel,klipper) are smaller than What I set in kcontrol; |
| 22:36.03 | dyssy | if kill kicker and then restart it, it is now OK, same for kdesktop. |
| 22:36.19 | dyssy | I tried configuring kcontrol both from user and root and all the fonts |
| 22:36.19 | dyssy | increase or decrease size but the application I mentioned are always smaller |
| 22:36.19 | dyssy | than the rest |
| 22:36.46 | dyssy | sorry for flooding ;) i could express that in one sentance :( |
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| 22:37.48 | kgerbitz | Hallo? |
| 22:38.29 | dyssy | so how can i have the same fonts both for applications like konqueror/amarok and for kicker, kpanel, kdesktop? |
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| 22:40.00 | yoruichi | dyssy: they should |
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| 22:40.08 | yoruichi | is this a fresh kde install? |
| 22:41.14 | dyssy | no |
| 22:41.28 | dyssy | but before there was everything ok |
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| 22:41.57 | dyssy | i think that changing thames has something to do with my problem |
| 22:42.06 | dyssy | i didn't touch anything else |
| 22:42.16 | yoruichi | have you try to reset the fonts to defaults? |
| 22:42.32 | dyssy | i have tried to change fonts, both i kde and gnome |
| 22:43.34 | dyssy | but i'm getting the same result: fonts in kicker/kwin/kdesktop are about 4 point smaller than it was set in kcontrol |
| 22:44.00 | yoruichi | try to reset it to defaults, and set gtk apps to use your kde fonts |
| 22:44.15 | yoruichi | and perhaps you need to restart kde too |
| 22:44.26 | dyssy | what do you mean by reset to defaults? |
| 22:44.54 | yoruichi | kcontrol > appearance & themes > fonts |
| 22:45.07 | yoruichi | there's a "defaults" button there |
| 22:45.11 | dyssy | yeah, i have done it |
| 22:45.23 | dyssy | it doesn't help |
| 22:45.39 | yoruichi | have you restart kde? |
| 22:46.09 | dyssy | i havn't touch anything in kcontrol before that problem occour |
| 22:46.20 | dyssy | it looks like gnome has something to do with it |
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| 22:46.46 | yoruichi | hmm, i guess i'm out of clue then |
| 22:47.10 | dyssy | when running apps manually everything is ok, but when they are starting automatically with kde they have smaller fonts |
| 22:47.37 | dyssy | hi there |
| 22:47.45 | dyssy | i have problem with fonts under kde |
| 22:48.27 | dyssy | kicker, kdesktop and kwin have about 4 poits smaller fonts than it was set in kconfig |
| 22:48.49 | yoruichi | maybe you have gnome-session (or sth) running in background? |
| 22:48.54 | dyssy | however, when killing kcike/kdesktop/kwin and running it again manually everything is ok |
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| 22:49.33 | dyssy | no, i have only gnome-session-managar running in backgoud, i always had, but that times i have since today |
| 22:49.49 | dyssy | times=problem* |
| 22:50.26 | yoruichi | i give up :( |
| 22:50.29 | dyssy | looks like apps started automaticly with kde are using some other configuration for fonts :/ |
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| 23:02.33 | famany | hi all |
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| 23:03.12 | famany | anyone use KDM Theme manager? |
| 23:03.52 | famany | .. |
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| 23:09.58 | mobtek | haha osnews links DE flamebait story, news @ 11 |
| 23:09.59 | mobtek | rofl |
| 23:10.07 | mobtek | osnews must be desperate for hits |
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| 23:22.08 | jeekl | Hi, I cant configure Konsole anymore. it tells me i'm missing kcm_konsole.la? |
| 23:22.30 | jeekl | I don't know when this occured, I have done numerous updates since I last configured konsole |
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| 23:24.33 | annma | distreo, jeekl ? |
| 23:24.49 | jeekl | Kubuntu breezy |
| 23:25.26 | pinotree | hey annma, didn't noticed you were online |
| 23:25.40 | annma | hi! |
| 23:25.50 | annma | jeekl: reinstall kdebase |
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| 23:28.34 | annma | pinotree: you don't want to take a SoC yourself? |
| 23:30.43 | jeekl | annma: Isn't kdebase just a meta-pacage? I ried reinstalling it with no change. Is it something wrong eith the packages or have I screwed something up? |
| 23:31.02 | annma | jeekl: ask in #kubuntu |
| 23:31.13 | annma | jeekl: this is distro-specific obviously |
| 23:31.35 | jeekl | okey. Thanks |
| 23:32.00 | SimAtWork | bye all! |
| 23:33.34 | annma | bye SimAtWork |
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| 23:41.19 | annma | hi StevenR :)) |
| 23:41.36 | StevenR | hey annma, how goes things? how's Clarisse doing? |
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| 23:42.01 | annma | she is doing very well thanks |
| 23:42.05 | StevenR | cool |
| 23:42.09 | annma | getting bigger and smiling now |
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| 23:42.12 | StevenR | yay |
| 23:42.20 | annma | but quite demanding |
| 23:42.36 | annma | ;) |
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| 23:46.07 | StevenR | annma: cool..hopefully im a little way off that stuff yet |
| 23:46.13 | annma | lol |
| 23:46.16 | annma | ;) |
| 23:47.10 | StevenR | annma: interview on monday though :) |
| 23:49.01 | annma | fingers crossed |
| 23:49.13 | StevenR | might actually get a job...for hopefully pots of money |
| 23:49.55 | annma | :) |
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| 23:53.17 | annma | what area, the job? |
| 23:54.50 | StevenR | *nix tech support, maybe some other stuff, projects and suchlike |
| 23:55.20 | StevenR | annma: i got the feeling that the agency person didn't really understand what most of the buzzwords meant...like http |
| 23:55.22 | annma | wow |
| 23:55.43 | annma | probably not |
| 23:56.00 | annma | people my age never understand what I do as a hobby |
| 23:56.03 | StevenR | i talked enough of the talk that she want's to see me in person |
| 23:56.05 | annma | (KDE) |
| 23:56.17 | annma | :) |
| 23:56.20 | StevenR | annma: you're not the sterotypical hacker :) |
| 23:56.33 | annma | ;) |
| 23:56.59 | StevenR | annma: http://www.s1jobs.com/job/151580273.html |
