| 00:00.38 | [algo] | setGlobal sets variable.. |
| 00:00.41 | [algo] | how do I access it ? |
| 00:00.44 | [algo] | @var ? |
| 00:01.36 | [algo] | @global(var) |
| 00:01.38 | [algo] | seems : |
| 00:01.40 | [algo] | ;) |
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| 00:10.04 | [algo] | nah |
| 00:10.11 | [algo] | not working |
| 00:10.18 | [algo] | how do I catch initialization for whole form.. |
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| 00:12.05 | [algo] | got it ! :) |
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| 00:22.21 | [algo] | any @else, @elseif ? |
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| 00:28.29 | [algo] | Can I somehow make a window "always on Top" ? |
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| 00:29.08 | fredrikh | [algo]: sure |
| 00:29.34 | [algo] | please ? |
| 00:29.40 | [algo] | what's the magic key for it |
| 00:29.48 | [algo] | I want my tiny button be always on top |
| 00:29.58 | [algo] | it shows current REMOTE/LOCAL state |
| 00:30.07 | Q-collective | [algo]: rightclick on wm bar -> advanced -> always on top |
| 00:30.27 | Q-collective | might be called a little different, I'm using dutch kde |
| 00:30.56 | twosouls82 | have a good night all |
| 00:31.19 | [algo] | wm bar is in menu ? |
| 00:31.45 | [algo] | or you mean widget ? |
| 00:31.53 | _Atomo64_ | Q-collective: do you know if it's possible to import a CSV into korganizer? |
| 00:32.00 | twosouls82 | window manager bar |
| 00:32.08 | twosouls82 | i think |
| 00:32.12 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 00:32.19 | [algo] | trying to find Advanced there :/ |
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| 00:33.14 | [algo] | is it right or up ? |
| 00:33.29 | Q-collective | [algo]: dude, it's the first thing :) |
| 00:33.53 | Q-collective | wm bar == more commonly referred to as title bar |
| 00:33.55 | Q-collective | btw |
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| 00:33.58 | [algo] | or maybe you mean click it while app is running |
| 00:34.05 | [algo] | not while kommander is building it |
| 00:34.31 | [algo] | hehe |
| 00:34.35 | [algo] | well, surely that works |
| 00:34.38 | [algo] | wanted to set it default |
| 00:35.44 | illogical | http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?america.gif |
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| 00:38.51 | Q-collective | illogical: this one is also nice: http://uncyclopedia.org/images/a/ad/Mapofunamerica.jpg |
| 00:39.10 | illogical | http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?fisho12.jpg |
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| 00:39.20 | illogical | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.36 | illogical | s/--6/--^ |
| 00:39.52 | marinka | hi, i've just installed kdebluetooth and all other bluetooth packages and all seems to be working except for the bluetooth:/ url, it says "Malformed URL" whenever i try to use it. what am i missing? |
| 00:41.01 | Buddha| | marinka - your bluetooth adapter must be warped |
| 00:41.12 | marinka | how |
| 00:41.31 | Buddha| | I have no idea. Is it an external one? |
| 00:41.35 | marinka | USB |
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| 00:42.34 | marinka | i tried transferring files from a cellphone - works, command line tools also work. but i would really like to be able to use konqueror for browsing |
| 00:43.08 | Buddha| | Ah, in that case, have you tried rebooting? |
| 00:43.19 | marinka | yes |
| 00:43.32 | marinka | restarting x |
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| 00:43.59 | marinka | is there a place where i can add this protocol? like in some config files? |
| 00:44.04 | Buddha| | no, rebooting the whole computer. |
| 00:44.06 | ryanakca | how do you make apps autostart? |
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| 00:46.16 | marinka | that was done right after i installed the packages but before i tried anything - cause i had to recompile the kernel too. shouldn't that be enough? |
| 00:46.55 | marinka | just don't like this windows-like practice of rebooting too much |
| 00:47.02 | Buddha| | Sounds like it. I've never used bluetooth. |
| 00:47.32 | marinka | where do these io-slaves get registered anyway? |
| 00:47.58 | Buddha| | I have no idea. I'm not a developer, sorry. |
| 00:48.13 | marinka | well, thanks anyway. |
| 00:48.42 | brandon_ | ryanakca: place a symlink to the app in kde's Autostart folder |
| 00:48.54 | fredrikh | marinka: open kinfocenter, and look in the protocols section |
| 00:49.09 | brandon_ | ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 00:49.10 | apt | methinks /.kde/autostart is empty. |
| 00:50.22 | ryanakca | brandon_: aye, how do you test it? log out, log in, or is there an easyer way to test? |
| 00:51.00 | marinka | it lists it there |
| 00:51.01 | brandon_ | i believe you can just go to the terminal and try running the program using the link |
| 00:51.27 | brandon_ | if the link starts the program, then it will at startup as well |
| 00:51.31 | marinka | but i can't really change or configure it |
| 00:51.44 | ryanakca | brandon_: aye, ty |
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| 00:51.57 | brandon_ | cool |
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| 00:52.37 | brandon_ | another thing you could do is create a little bash script with multiple programs listed, separated by semicolons, and then drop that in Autostart |
| 00:54.49 | marinka | anybody ever seen anything like this? if i do a quick google search it seems everything works out of the box for everybody |
| 00:57.22 | marinka | i have the files /usr/lib/kde3/kio_bluetooth.{la}{so} |
| 00:57.46 | marinka | any other channel you can recommend |
| 00:57.47 | marinka | ? |
| 00:58.41 | fredrikh | marinka: not that i know of, and i've never used the bluetooth ioslave |
| 00:59.18 | fredrikh | marinka: this is not the best time of the week to ask, because most ppl that would know aren't here :) |
| 01:00.03 | marinka | what time is better? weekend? |
| 01:00.34 | fredrikh | middle of the week i'd say |
| 01:00.43 | fredrikh | earlier in the day |
| 01:00.47 | marinka | i see |
| 01:00.49 | marinka | thanks |
| 01:05.51 | _fl | is ist possible to turn off mouse accel ? |
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| 01:22.05 | toothpick | are transparency and translucency the same thing? |
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| 01:23.57 | The_Ball | toothpick, i thought so yes |
| 01:24.03 | benJIman | technically translucent means only partially transparent |
| 01:26.12 | brandon_ | anybody got compiz working? |
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| 01:29.07 | toothpick | I got it |
| 01:29.21 | toothpick | different type of transparency than I expected |
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| 01:49.53 | Alethes | is there an app for kde for short term reminders? like a notification when it's been 15 mins because dinner needs to be checked? |
| 01:50.17 | qupada | ktimer? |
| 01:50.26 | Alethes | I guess |
| 01:50.30 | Alethes | never heard of it |
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| 02:00.37 | brandon_ | what kind did you expect toothpick? |
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| 02:05.30 | randreas69 | Gentoo users ahoy |
| 02:06.07 | randreas69 | My kdm can't start windowmaker for me when I need to. I'm using start -- :1 again |
| 02:06.26 | randreas69 | hehe startx -- :1 |
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| 02:24.05 | alx5000 | hi |
| 02:24.48 | alx5000 | does anyone know how to make systray icons big as they were in 3.5? |
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| 02:28.42 | dystopianray | konqueror is unable to access this website: http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/ |
| 02:28.48 | dystopianray | lynx, firefox, msie, they all work fine |
| 02:31.20 | dystopianray | this is with kde 3.5.2 |
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| 02:32.51 | TeaSea | Hmm |
| 02:33.11 | TeaSea | Has anyone else had troubles with HAL/D-BUS detecting USB devices before KDE was compiled with support, then worked fine afterwards? |
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| 02:33.17 | TeaSea | Or someone who's had troubles with that but solved them? |
| 02:35.20 | |main| | anyone uses katalog here? |
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| 02:50.38 | brandon_ | what's teh shell command to remove a directory that's full of files, as well as all of its children? |
| 02:50.57 | HuntsMan | rm -rf folder |
| 02:51.56 | brandon_ | thank you |
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| 03:00.35 | Q-collective | alx5000: don't just ping people |
| 03:00.37 | Q-collective | please |
| 03:00.49 | alx5000 | sorry |
| 03:01.12 | alx5000 | id never done it b4 and didnt know what it was like to ping a channel :$ |
| 03:01.24 | Q-collective | right |
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| 03:04.58 | brandon_ | dystopianray: i think that might be a legitimate bug in konq. i can't ping that subdomain, but i can connect to it using the other browsers. i can connect to the top level domain using konq, http://www.commbank.com.au/ but it won't go to the netbank login |
| 03:05.58 | brandon_ | there is some kind of problem with java in konq, so maybe that's it. |
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| 03:09.08 | toothpick | Where do I change the KMenu icon? |
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| 03:14.46 | Linatux | anyone familiar with kio_thumbnail & why it's thrashing my CPU's? |
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| 03:17.31 | kinection | using kde 3.5.2 on slackware. When i run kbuildsycoca I am getting a "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!" What is going on? |
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| 03:20.33 | Emarts | hi to all |
| 03:20.46 | Emarts | what is the channel of kde in spanish? |
| 03:20.59 | joscha | #kde.es i believe |
| 03:21.36 | Emarts | ok |
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| 03:33.23 | jza | hi anyone can help me out, I have some podcast in amarok, I want to know where is the mp3 stored when I download the feeds |
| 03:36.15 | _Atomo64_ | jza: I think that it is stored somewhere in /temp |
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| 03:36.36 | jza | ~/tmp |
| 03:36.38 | apt | somebody said /tmp was the directory where temporary files are kept. Make sure the modes are 1777 otherwise you'll have problems down the track. |
| 03:36.41 | pfein | is integration b/w akregator & konq better in 3.5? |
| 03:36.41 | jza | or /tmp |
| 03:36.48 | jza | ok |
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| 03:51.23 | toothpick | How do I turn off the knewsticker? |
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| 04:07.04 | Enr1X | good morning guys! |
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| 04:10.57 | trigo | hi, i have a question in kde 3.5.1 with kaffine .8 it seems to be detecting rm files as ram playlists...and not playing the file at all |
| 04:11.04 | _Atomo64_ | Hi Enr1X |
| 04:11.09 | trigo | it works fine under root |
| 04:11.15 | _Atomo64_ | hey Sho_ ! :) |
| 04:11.33 | Enr1X | hi _Atomo64_ |
| 04:11.50 | Enr1X | do u have the codecs? |
| 04:11.59 | trigo | yes |
| 04:12.20 | trigo | but under the user it doesnt even complain if they are not specified |
| 04:12.25 | Enr1X | trigo: so its a problem of permissions |
| 04:12.34 | Enr1X | f/d |
| 04:12.42 | trigo | oh? |
| 04:13.04 | trigo | when i run it under a console it says it detects a ram playlist being loaded |
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| 04:13.12 | jhutchins | Probably a Mandriva issue, but screensaver is broken. |
| 04:13.33 | Enr1X | a ram playlist is a real media playlist, right? |
| 04:13.42 | _Atomo64_ | Enr1X: yes |
| 04:13.44 | trigo | im guessing thats the case |
| 04:13.53 | _Atomo64_ | *normally yes |
| 04:14.05 | Enr1X | but it doestnt detect the files inside the playlist or something like that? |
| 04:14.08 | trigo | but under root it says the same file is a detected as a real media file and plays fine |
| 04:14.22 | trigo | well its not a playlist |
| 04:14.29 | trigo | its a regular old rm |
| 04:15.06 | Enr1X | ok. have you checked the permissions of the demuxers and the other decoding stuff? |
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| 04:15.26 | trigo | i just checked the real codecs and they seem ok |
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| 04:16.13 | trigo | also, i dont know if this matters but, i associated rms with kaffiene |
| 04:16.17 | trigo | could this be the issue? |
| 04:16.55 | Enr1X | trigo: i dont know how real media works, sorry. |
| 04:18.01 | trigo | hrm should work pretty much like anything else |
| 04:18.29 | _Atomo64_ | got go go... gn8 guys |
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| 04:43.13 | EVILCLX | hi mens |
| 04:43.18 | EVILCLX | how are you |
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| 04:43.55 | EVILCLX | i am use archlinux with kde 3.5.1 |
| 04:44.21 | EVILCLX | nothing in this channel?? |
| 04:44.28 | HuntsMan | !!! |
| 04:44.36 | EVILCLX | HuntsMan: |
| 04:44.43 | EVILCLX | q haces aka? |
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| 04:45.00 | HuntsMan | EVILCLX: yo vivo aca :P |
| 04:45.02 | EVILCLX | speak english |
| 04:45.07 | EVILCLX | ap |
| 04:45.17 | EVILCLX | speak english?? |
| 04:45.41 | HuntsMan | sure, why? |
| 04:45.52 | EVILCLX | ok |
| 04:45.58 | EVILCLX | is good |
| 04:46.22 | EVILCLX | i am not good |
| 04:46.47 | EVILCLX | but |
| 04:47.05 | EVILCLX | you speak or write english good? |
| 04:47.37 | HuntsMan | yep |
| 04:48.05 | smileaf | engrish? wats tat? :D |
| 04:48.08 | EVILCLX | i am only write good, but speak is bad |
| 04:48.18 | EVILCLX | smileaf: |
| 04:48.20 | EVILCLX | xD |
| 04:48.27 | smileaf | hehe ^^ |
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| 04:49.34 | EVILCLX | o god |
| 04:49.51 | EVILCLX | lote users |
| 04:50.35 | smileaf | lote? |
| 04:51.00 | EVILCLX | mmmmmmmm |
| 04:51.16 | EVILCLX | much |
| 04:51.18 | EVILCLX | ? |
| 04:51.24 | EVILCLX | not? |
| 04:51.25 | HuntsMan | EVILCLX: you mean "a lot of users" :P |
| 04:51.27 | smileaf | lots? |
| 04:51.30 | smileaf | lol |
| 04:51.36 | EVILCLX | ok |
| 04:51.40 | EVILCLX | this correct |
| 04:51.50 | EVILCLX | a lot of users |
| 04:51.54 | smileaf | "that is correct" :) |
| 04:52.03 | EVILCLX | that is correct |
| 04:52.30 | smileaf | I was always told my grammar was bad too, don't worry ;) |
| 04:52.33 | EVILCLX | debo parecer indio hablando ingles |
| 04:53.07 | EVILCLX | :) |
| 04:53.25 | smileaf | something about english is all I could understand out of that :) |
| 04:54.08 | EVILCLX | jssjsjsjjaaja |
| 04:54.31 | smileaf | if I had to guess I'd say you said "english sucks why do people speak it?" :) |
| 04:55.01 | EVILCLX | really? |
| 04:55.10 | smileaf | did I guess right? |
| 04:55.24 | EVILCLX | mmmm |
| 04:55.26 | HuntsMan | <EVILCLX> debo parecer indio hablando ingles <- i must look like a indian speaking english :P |
| 04:55.29 | EVILCLX | i dont know |
| 04:55.46 | smileaf | HuntsMan: thanks |
| 04:55.58 | smileaf | nah.. I know an indian who speaks english :) |
| 04:56.37 | smileaf | when he doesn't tho .. O.o... interesting language. |
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| 04:57.08 | EVILCLX | but, i like learn english |
| 04:57.14 | smileaf | I hate it when I open a konqueror and forget why... |
| 04:57.20 | EVILCLX | but speaking |
| 04:57.45 | smileaf | speaking is probably 70% of learning. |
| 04:57.51 | EVILCLX | smileaf: |
| 04:57.56 | EVILCLX | use amarok? |
| 04:58.00 | smileaf | yes I do |
| 04:58.08 | EVILCLX | version? |
| 04:58.33 | smileaf | 1.3.9 |
| 04:58.41 | EVILCLX | ok |
| 04:58.59 | EVILCLX | i am 1.3.9 |
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| 04:59.13 | EVILCLX | but sometimes freeze |
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| 05:18.19 | Nana | oi |
| 05:27.48 | illogical | oi |
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| 05:28.34 | Tonglebeak | i have a question. why, when i try to run kuser, and it asks me to enter root's password, does it not accept the password and keeps saying incorrect password, when i know for sure that it is root's password, especially since i use it all the time to long into another tty to do system updates and stuff like that? |
| 05:28.44 | Tonglebeak | this is also happening to k3b |
| 05:29.57 | illogical | Tonglebeak: open a terminal, type su and log in using that same password |
| 05:30.50 | Tonglebeak | no go -_- |
| 05:31.11 | illogical | then it's not the root password. |
| 05:32.06 | Tonglebeak | so you mean to tell me that logging in under root, using root's password, is not really logging into root? |
| 05:32.23 | smileaf | heh .. interesting, someone used my kdmtheme and created another module to change logout themes o.O |
| 05:32.26 | illogical | you just said you couldn't |
| 05:32.35 | Tonglebeak | i can login as "root" but not "su" |
| 05:32.47 | trigo | su = superuser = root |
| 05:32.48 | smileaf | amazing what you find out when some random user starts asking questions about a project you've never heard of.. lol |
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| 05:33.28 | trigo | try typing su root |
| 05:33.40 | trigo | maybe your su is busted in some manner |
| 05:33.59 | illogical | Tonglebeak: that. is unpossible. unless your system is all sorts of messed up. |
| 05:34.22 | Tonglebeak | my system runs just fine |
| 05:34.24 | trigo | su actually is substatine use i suppose |
| 05:35.03 | trigo | substatine != english |
| 05:36.55 | Tonglebeak | aha there we go |
| 05:37.06 | Tonglebeak | gentoo and its silly security restrictions :P |
| 05:37.11 | trigo | heh |
| 05:38.10 | mobtek | hehe |
| 05:38.15 | smileaf | is the user in the wheel group that your using to login to root with? :) |
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| 05:38.36 | Tonglebeak | you're a bit late @_@ |
| 05:38.46 | smileaf | I'm a bit late? |
| 05:39.23 | smileaf | I'm never late. I arrive on time in a fasionably way ;) |
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| 05:42.08 | brandon_ | what's the deal with linspire? |
| 05:42.29 | brandon_ | i just like asking open-ended questions |
| 05:42.59 | smileaf | Ok.. I was wondering what I missed :P |
| 05:43.23 | brandon_ | from what i'm reading, linspire logs the user in as root with no password, like winblows |
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| 05:44.00 | smileaf | brandon_: i remember that... they were recommending users to not set a root password because they might forget it... |
| 05:44.43 | brandon_ | has linspire ever heard of runlevel 1? |
| 05:44.56 | brandon_ | you can reset the root password in RL1 |
| 05:45.09 | pfein | is integration b/w akregator & konq better in 3.5? |
| 05:45.20 | brandon_ | yeah it's good |
| 05:45.26 | pfein | ? |
| 05:45.41 | brandon_ | i click on feed: links and they open akgregator |
| 05:45.58 | brandon_ | just like a mailto: link opens your email app |
| 05:48.02 | pfein | brandon_: ah, I want a akreg sidebar in konq, like sage in FF. |
| 05:48.42 | brandon_ | akreg docks in the systray. isn't that enough for you? |
| 05:48.42 | smileaf | doesn't exist that I know of. |
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| 05:48.58 | |main| | btw |
| 05:49.06 | |main| | cant u make a custom sidebar? |
| 05:49.11 | |main| | with whatever link in it |
| 05:49.51 | |main| | also, how do i fix up my konq for faster browsing? |
| 05:49.58 | |main| | i.e pipelining, more parallel connections, etc? |
| 05:50.06 | brandon_ | good question |
| 05:50.11 | brandon_ | i'd like to know myself |
| 05:50.38 | |main| | i fixed up firefox to use 256 connections, and it does work faster for me |
| 05:50.46 | |main| | i guess i had a lot of spare bandwith:) |
| 05:50.49 | brandon_ | using about:config |
| 05:50.51 | |main| | bandwitdh |
| 05:51.09 | |main| | in firefox? |
| 05:51.10 | straw | 256? ehh... |
| 05:51.19 | brandon_ | yes, in firefox |
| 05:51.32 | |main| | dunno, i just use fasterfox extention |
| 05:51.39 | |main| | im curious where i edit settings in konq |
| 05:51.41 | pfein | brandon_: yeah, but as a browser konq is better. Most of my time in my RSS reader is web browsing. ;( |
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| 05:52.04 | brandon_ | yeah, that's what the extension does, but if you open firefox and type about:config into the location bar, you cna tweak it yourself |
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| 05:53.00 | |main| | yes, but fasterfox has a nice timer:) |
| 05:53.08 | brandon_ | so the real issue is, you don't much care for akgregator? |
| 05:53.54 | brandon_ | that doesn't mean you can't keep tweaking it |
| 05:54.02 | pfein | brandon_: I guess so... what I want is a konq RSS sidebar. |
| 05:54.36 | smileaf | I wish they would have fixed the filter issue in 3.5.2 :/ |
| 05:54.37 | brandon_ | maybe there's a better rss reader for linux somewhere? |
| 05:54.52 | brandon_ | what filter issue? |
| 05:55.16 | smileaf | if you leave your filter on unread. once you read a feed it still is there |
| 05:55.30 | smileaf | even when it fetches new ones. |
| 05:55.36 | |main| | u can add newstickers to konq |
| 05:55.41 | |main| | i just did |
| 05:55.47 | smileaf | in 3.4 whenever it fetched it'd rerun the filter. |
| 05:56.03 | |main| | pfein: u can have a rss sidebar |
| 05:56.52 | |main| | i have it |
| 05:56.53 | |main| | dunno where i got it from |
| 05:56.53 | smileaf | kept it very nice and tidy. |
| 05:56.53 | pfein | |main|: but in 3.5, not 3.4, correct? |
| 05:56.54 | pfein | |main|: what's it called? URL? |
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| 05:56.55 | smileaf | pfein: yes.. 3.5 it doesn't do that. |
| 05:56.55 | smileaf | 3.5 it only runs the filter when you change it. |
| 05:56.55 | pfein | smileaf: huh? |
| 05:57.16 | smileaf | so to get it to display only unread ones again I have to change it from unread to something else then back. |
| 05:57.50 | |main| | i have 3.5 right |
| 05:57.57 | |main| | pfein, no idea, i just had it |
| 05:58.03 | |main| | never looked in it until u asked |
| 05:58.08 | brandon_ | that's a pain in the ass |
| 05:58.17 | pfein | |main|: you're 3.5 right? |
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| 05:58.24 | |main| | yes, yes |
| 05:58.26 | |main| | 3.5.2 |
| 05:58.53 | |main| | copyright says 2002-2004 :) |
| 05:58.54 | smileaf | it's very annoying :) |
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| 05:59.31 | brandon_ | konversation isn't displaying smileys |
| 05:59.54 | DAaaMan64 | anyone know where kopete keeps it's settings? I want them back so I don't have to re-setup my accounts. |
| 06:01.36 | pfein | brandon_: this http://static.kdenews.org/mirrors/kde.mcamen.de/misc/sidebar4.png |
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| 06:02.04 | pfein | brandon_: this http://dot.kde.org/1049415292/ see (shot1, shot2) |
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| 06:04.06 | |main| | yeah |
| 06:04.09 | |main| | thats what i have |
| 06:04.24 | brandon_ | i understand what you mean, it's just that i think it's more an akregator problem than something you should rely on konq to fix. in other words, maybe there's a better rss reader out there |
| 06:05.20 | |main| | btw |
| 06:05.31 | |main| | how do i time in konq, how fast is the page loading |
| 06:05.35 | |main| | i want to compare:) |
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| 06:14.23 | dystopianray | why can't kinfocenter show my network interface? |
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| 06:18.02 | DAaaMan64 | so I can't export my kopete settings at all? |
| 06:18.08 | pfein | |main|: huh, I don't seem to have it - does it show up under your extensions? |
| 06:18.16 | |main| | one sec |
| 06:18.56 | |main| | i dunno if it does |
| 06:19.02 | |main| | nothing obviously related to it |
| 06:19.49 | pfein | hmm. |
| 06:20.06 | |main| | :) |
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| 07:08.15 | df00z | is Christoph Cullmann here? |
| 07:09.07 | df00z | /lis |
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| 07:43.48 | Diavolo | hello |
| 07:43.50 | Diavolo | I have a problem with fish and Kate |
| 07:44.09 | Diavolo | When I edit files via fish, the upload always get stalled and never gets finished |
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| 07:46.20 | platypus | how do i view swf in konqeror ? |
| 07:49.40 | tech9iner | so mates.. |
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| 07:56.52 | benjr__ | ive recently completed installing gentoo, then i emerged kde but when i startx all i see is this http://www.cs.arizona.edu/computer.help/policy/X_instructions/mwm.gif (not my screenshot) wheres my kde? |
| 07:57.46 | lostson | benjr__: did you edit your rc.conf file ? or create a xinitrc file with startkde in it |
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| 07:58.35 | benjr__ | um nope, all ive done is what i said there. Ive had less then a months experience with linux, this si the first distro ive tried that didnt install kde for me |
| 07:59.13 | lostson | ok well you can do it of 2 ways you can edit the rc.conf file at the bottom there is a section that says XSESSION= |
| 07:59.27 | lostson | edit that to say XSESSION=kde-3.5 |
| 07:59.37 | lostson | the at the prompt just type startx |
| 07:59.55 | benjr__ | how do i knwo what verison of kde i have? |
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| 08:00.06 | benjr__ | im presuing thats what your 3.5 stands for |
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| 08:00.16 | lostson | did you install stable or x86 ? |
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| 08:00.33 | lostson | if you just went stable it should read XSESSION=kde-3.4.3 |
| 08:00.44 | benjr__ | i just typed "emerge kde" emerge is gentoos package manager |
| 08:01.31 | lostson | ok it will be 3.4.3 then |
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| 08:03.54 | benjr__ | um |
| 08:04.08 | benjr__ | i just see a black screen with a cursor and a menu titles twm when i click |
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| 08:04.48 | lostson | you are in X |
| 08:04.53 | lostson | click on exit |
| 08:05.16 | benjr__ | ok |
| 08:05.34 | lostson | you back to the prompt then |
| 08:05.38 | benjr__ | yep |
| 08:05.42 | lostson | ok su to root then |
| 08:05.54 | benjr__ | done |
| 08:06.04 | lostson | ok now type nano -w /etc/rc/conf |
| 08:06.14 | lostson | rc.conf that should be sorry |
| 08:06.46 | benjr__ | ah yep, i chnaged it to "xsession=ked-3.4.3" earlier |
| 08:06.52 | benjr__ | kde* |
| 08:07.00 | benjr__ | shoudl i try chnaging it to 3.5? |
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| 08:07.06 | lostson | did you remove teh # from the front of the line ? |
| 08:07.06 | xroberx | hi |
| 08:07.31 | benjr__ | yeah |
| 08:07.53 | lostson | hmm |
| 08:08.08 | benjr__ | should kde-3.4.3 be emcapsulated in quotes? their example one was |
| 08:08.25 | lostson | Xsession="kde-3.4.3" |
| 08:09.28 | benjr__ | mine used to be Xsession=kde-3.4.3 |
| 08:09.40 | benjr__ | added in the quote, but i still gte the same result |
| 08:10.23 | lostson | weird |
| 08:10.40 | lostson | ok one more trick exit out of nano and logout of root back to your normal user |
| 08:10.57 | benjr__ | do i have to restart some service to get chnages to take effect? |
| 08:11.23 | lostson | no |
| 08:11.30 | benjr__ | ok |
| 08:11.45 | lostson | back to normal user prompt ? |
| 08:12.08 | benjr__ | yep |
| 08:12.41 | lostson | ok type this echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc |
| 08:13.27 | benjr__ | is it suposed to do anything? |
| 08:13.32 | lostson | no not yet |
| 08:13.41 | lostson | did you type it and hit enter |
| 08:13.41 | lostson | ?? |
| 08:13.45 | benjr__ | yeah |
| 08:13.56 | lostson | ok now typoe startx and hit enter |
| 08:14.01 | lostson | type ** |
| 08:14.24 | benjr__ | yay ... "welcome to kde 3.4.3" |
| 08:14.30 | lostson | golden |
| 08:14.43 | benjr__ | whats that line of code do, the one you told me to type? |
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| 08:15.08 | lostson | it creates a file called .xinitrc and puts the command exec startkde in it |
| 08:15.27 | lostson | when you type startx it references that file and starts whatever you have in there |
| 08:15.28 | Diavolo | I have a problem with fish and Kate |
| 08:15.35 | Diavolo | When I edit files via fish and save it, the upload always get stalled and never gets finished |
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| 08:15.45 | lostson | if you were using fluxbox you would change it to exec fluxbox |
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| 08:15.53 | benjr__ | since the files located in ~/ i guess its user specific right? |
| 08:16.00 | lostson | yes |
| 08:16.08 | lostson | its in your home directory |
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| 08:17.41 | benjr__ | i dont want to start a flame war or anything, and dont ask me to rtfm, but whats the difference been gnome, kde, fluxbox etc, i just chose kde chose its all ive known |
| 08:17.46 | ericP | is there a simple way to control the cursor with arrow keys? (under kde; i'm used to this in fvwm) |
| 08:18.05 | ericP | benjr__, heretic! |
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| 08:18.35 | xroberx | benjr__: in the end it's a matter of taste |
| 08:18.36 | ericP | benjr__, as i understand it, kde is more modular than gnome. |
| 08:18.47 | lostson | benjr__: difference is user prefernce fluxbox is more light and fast but more for advanced users where kde and gnome are complete desktop environments fluxbox is jsut a window manager |
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| 08:19.15 | benjr__ | ericP: gimmie a break :p i cna barely navigate the linux file system, last thing i wnana do si chnage my X thingee |
| 08:19.27 | xroberx | benjr__: the only truth is that it's like a religion |
| 08:20.08 | lostson | benjr__: if you stay with it you will learn more and more welcome to the world of open source btw |
| 08:20.12 | xroberx | benjr__: do you know the Hooligans ? something like that but in computing :) |
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| 08:21.47 | benjr__ | this is just a new pc, and its overpowered for that i wanna use it for, so i intend to turn on all the frilly pretty features kde has to offer, since i dont care if it hogs my respources |
| 08:23.30 | xroberx | benjr__: i run a full kde installation + mysql + exim + apache2 and it just takes half the memory of my box |
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| 08:25.24 | benjr__ | this machine im on now (the one im replacing) will become my webserver, and the new one has 2gb ram anyway |
| 08:32.37 | twosouls82 | good morning |
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| 08:40.16 | tech9iner | man mates.. is it that hard to play / view KVCD*.bin files burned to cd ? |
| 08:40.50 | tech9iner | cant seem to get kaffeine or mplayer to play it ? |
| 08:40.51 | twosouls82 | sorry. wouldn't have a clue |
| 08:41.01 | |main| | no, it should not be |
| 08:41.12 | |main| | tech9iner: did u try vlc? |
| 08:41.24 | |main| | it plays them easily under windows, not sure about linux |
| 08:41.33 | tech9iner | yes looked into installing it but libdvbpsi3 dep error.. |
| 08:41.45 | |main| | odd |
| 08:42.23 | |main| | btw, are pacman and guru packages compiled optimized or not? |
| 08:42.46 | |main| | and does it make much difference performance-wise if you optimize for your cpu |
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| 08:43.10 | benJIman | |main|: guru 32bit packages are optimised for 686, packman mostly arn't |
| 08:43.10 | twosouls82 | damn, you have a habit of asking good questions |
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| 08:43.39 | |main| | 686 is what. pentium1 ? |
| 08:43.41 | benJIman | |main|: ones where it matters like mplayer they have multiple packages |
| 08:43.47 | benJIman | 686 = p3 iirc |
| 08:43.53 | ndim | i686 is PentiumPro and later. |
| 08:44.12 | |main| | so if id recompile everything on my pc, optimized to p4, it would be faster? |
| 08:44.20 | benJIman | marginally |
| 08:44.30 | |main| | whats marginally :) |
| 08:44.39 | benJIman | you probably wouldn't notice much difference |
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| 08:44.41 | |main| | 2-4% ? |
| 08:45.06 | ndim | You'll get less performance gain than CPU cycles wasted on recompiling. |
| 08:45.15 | benJIman | suse packages are the same, some where the performance is improved siginificantly by more optimised packages are available for more i686 as well as 586 and x86_64 |
| 08:45.30 | |main| | i see |
| 08:45.32 | |main| | well, ok |
| 08:45.38 | benJIman | |main|: possibly about that for certain things, other things it won't make any noticable difference |
| 08:47.58 | benjr__ | are 64bit processors faster at compliling when compared to equal speed 32bit ones? |
| 08:48.03 | twosouls82 | benJIman: than what is a i586? P2? |
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| 08:48.14 | benJIman | p1 |
| 08:48.16 | twosouls82 | benjr__: yes |
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| 08:49.13 | twosouls82 | suse should compile for i586 if you were asking me |
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| 08:49.26 | twosouls82 | should noty |
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| 08:49.55 | benjr__ | twosouls82: it took my 64bit somewhere between to 6-18hours to complie and downlaod kde and all its depedences (i dont knwo the exact time cose i left the pc, and i do have dailup if thats a major factor or not) |
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| 08:50.59 | twosouls82 | benjr__: what exactly did took so long? the downloads (before compilation) or the actual compilation itself |
| 08:51.13 | twosouls82 | and which distro? |
| 08:51.16 | benjr__ | twosouls82: it does seem a very long time tho, i downloaded my distrso install cd(on dialup), burn it, installed it and complied the keneral in less time |
| 08:51.50 | twosouls82 | dailup maybe your problem, the downloads are quite large |
| 08:52.30 | benjr__ | twosouls82: gentoo, and it sort of downlaods one file then complies it, then downlaods the enxt and compiles it etc, so im nto sure how much downlaoding it did total |
| 08:52.34 | twosouls82 | benjr__: have you tried compiling some source code yet? |
| 08:52.48 | Diavolo | I have a problem with fish and Kate |
| 08:52.50 | Diavolo | When I edit files via fish and save it, the upload always get stalled and never gets finished |
| 08:53.20 | twosouls82 | (other than emerging) |
| 08:53.29 | benjr__ | twosouls82: (im kinda new to linux) would compiling my kernel be compiling source code? |
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| 08:54.45 | twosouls82 | benjr__: compiling a program (a source code tarball, eg xxx.tar.gz) which is not provided by Gentoo |
| 08:55.32 | benjr__ | there was a file called stage3-amd64.tar.bz2 (or something similar) that was about 100mb |
| 08:55.48 | twosouls82 | benjr__: have you set your compiler flags in "/etc/make.conf"? |
| 08:56.24 | benjr__ | twosouls82: i think so, is that where id have put in mmx, see etc |
| 08:56.37 | benjr__ | sse* |
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| 08:57.09 | twosouls82 | benjr__: what kind of processor did you have? |
| 08:57.23 | benjr__ | athlon64 3200 |
| 08:57.31 | twosouls82 | mee too ;) |
| 08:57.35 | twosouls82 | me |
| 08:58.10 | benjr__ | im just a little confused, ive nevre owned a 64 bit before, and i havnt done any compiling either, things just seem to take a lot longer thne i thought they would |
| 08:58.16 | benjr__ | i expected the processor to be fast |
| 08:58.42 | twosouls82 | benjr__: could you open up "/etc/make.conf" and check that this rule exists; "CFLAGS="-march=k8 -pipe -O2"" |
| 08:58.56 | benjr__ | like i said i "emerge kde" then went to bed, and ti was still doing whne i woke up |
| 08:59.16 | twosouls82 | emerge kde is all of kde |
| 08:59.53 | twosouls82 | emerge kde-meta is emerge the neccessarry |
| 08:59.59 | mabu | My longest compile was OOo it took 5 hours on AMD 64 3200 |
| 09:00.27 | benjr__ | mine says "CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"" |
| 09:00.34 | qupada | twosouls82: no, kde-meta is everything too |
| 09:00.43 | qupada | kdebase-meta is only the bare minimum |
| 09:00.46 | twosouls82 | openoffice is 32bit doesn't have to be compiled |
| 09:01.00 | twosouls82 | kde-meta, I ment start-kde |
| 09:01.02 | mabu | kde-meta are split ebuilds and kde are monolithic ones |
| 09:01.40 | mabu | Openoffice can be compiled or not If you have -bin it doesn't have |
| 09:01.43 | benjr__ | is 6+ hours to emerge kde an average time? |
| 09:01.49 | mabu | But I have still 32 bit system |
| 09:02.17 | mabu | Maybe on #gentoo they will no |
| 09:02.19 | twosouls82 | benjr__: it took so long when I did |
| 09:02.20 | mabu | know* |
| 09:02.25 | qupada | benjr__: doesn't sound too far off |
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| 09:02.51 | benJIman | kdelibs+kdebase takes ~1.5hrs to compile here, and I have a reasonably fast machine |
| 09:03.14 | benJIman | all of kde would certainly take some time |
| 09:03.15 | benjr__ | im just a bit disapointed in my new system, not a good first impression (ionyl had the system 2 days) tho i guess i couldnt have expected it to be instant |
| 09:03.17 | mabu | there is a lot of packages that's way it takes so long |
| 09:03.50 | qupada | average compile time (from 15 compiles) for kdelibs is exactly 36 minutes here |
| 09:03.51 | mabu | Yesterday after emerge --sync there was 152 packages to update because KDE 3.5.2 is out |
| 09:03.52 | twosouls82 | benjr__: try music and games |
| 09:04.22 | qupada | one must not forget that qt takes half an hour to compile too |
| 09:04.35 | benJIman | 20mins here |
| 09:04.35 | mabu | It's great that the computer is still responsible during the compiling |
| 09:04.36 | twosouls82 | true |
| 09:04.44 | benjr__ | mabu: kde 3.52 is out? then why do i ahve kde 3.4.3 when i emereged kde yesterday? |
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| 09:05.03 | twosouls82 | because it is marked |
| 09:05.09 | twosouls82 | benjr: |
| 09:05.10 | mabu | benjr__: Because KDE 3.5.2 is masked in keywords |
| 09:05.11 | qupada | benjr__: because 3.5.2 isn't marked stable |
| 09:05.30 | benjr__ | like a beta? |
| 09:06.00 | xroberx | not at all |
| 09:06.03 | mabu | no |
| 09:06.09 | twosouls82 | benjr__: unmarking a lot of packages is easiest with Kuro, if you ask me.. but I am not an expert |
| 09:06.13 | mabu | Not tested in Gentoo |
| 09:06.19 | twosouls82 | Kuroo |
| 09:06.46 | twosouls82 | I tested KDE 3.5.1 in Gentoo, perfectly |
| 09:07.02 | qupada | kuroo can cause problems though, has hosed some people's systems |
| 09:07.14 | twosouls82 | :S |
| 09:07.17 | mabu | First, masked by keyword as a testing/unstable packag |
| 09:07.21 | xroberx | benjr__: you are using a so called "distribution" of linux, and the decisions of which packages are stable depend on the packagers of that distribution. In this case, the gentoo packagers have not marked kde 3.5.2 as stable yet |
| 09:07.23 | mabu | http://gentoo-wiki.com/Masked |
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| 09:08.37 | xroberx | benjr__: and you are lucky you are using gentoo, because some distributions (debian comes to my mind) use very old "stable" packages |
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| 09:09.28 | benjr__ | i probibly still have my head set in windows mode but can i just update form 3.4.3 to 3.5.2? or will have have to uninstall 3.4.3 and install 3.5.2 from scratch |
| 09:09.33 | qupada | xroberx: 'stable' is only one letter away from 'stale'... love to hate debian |
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| 09:09.40 | xroberx | heh |
| 09:09.48 | twosouls82 | lol |
| 09:09.55 | xroberx | good point qupada |
| 09:10.02 | qupada | benjr__: well it will replace the files, essentially uninstalling 3.4.3 in the process |
| 09:10.20 | benjr__ | only other distro ive used is slackware |
| 09:10.35 | twosouls82 | benjr__: just unmask them and emerge them again |
| 09:10.44 | mabu | If you install KDE 3.5 you will have 2 KDEs installed |
| 09:11.11 | twosouls82 | benjr__: suse is great if you are new to linux and many others too |
| 09:11.12 | mabu | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4#Upgrading_to_KDE_3.4.2F3.5 |
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| 09:11.37 | benjr__ | mabu: theres a guide for evreything lol |
| 09:11.40 | qupada | ah, there is me forgetting slotting on kde. some of it will be left behind yes |
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| 09:11.54 | mabu | yes :) |
| 09:12.10 | qupada | kdelibs comes to mind |
| 09:12.23 | mabu | to unmerge old 3.4 emerge -Cp ~`ls -d /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*-3.4* | cut -d/ -f 6 | tr $'\n' ' ' | sed -e "s: : ~:g"` |
| 09:12.36 | mabu | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-448883-highlight-kde.html |
| 09:12.56 | twosouls82 | mabu: you google a lot? ;) |
| 09:13.08 | benjr__ | if i knew kde 3.5.2 existed i would have just installed it int he first place |
| 09:13.09 | mabu | yes |
| 09:13.27 | mabu | Akregator is great for news :) |
| 09:13.30 | mabu | RSS rules :P |
| 09:13.35 | flaccid | what 3.5.2 give over 3.5.1 |
| 09:13.35 | twosouls82 | benjr__: that would have taken a day less |
| 09:13.43 | mabu | More bugfixes |
| 09:13.55 | mabu | and documentation errors fixed |
| 09:14.12 | flaccid | fair enough |
| 09:15.23 | twosouls82 | mabu: no new or enhanched features like the session support for kate (from 3.4.3 to 3.5) |
| 09:15.26 | twosouls82 | ? |
| 09:15.27 | matze | does it run good at kanotix? |
| 09:15.40 | mabu | no |
| 09:15.45 | matze | hmm. |
| 09:15.51 | mabu | KDE 3.5 is in feature freeze |
| 09:15.58 | mabu | matze: no idea |
| 09:16.07 | qupada | bugfixes only now |
| 09:16.09 | benjr__ | feature freeze? |
| 09:16.18 | mabu | no new features |
| 09:16.24 | mabu | new features comes in KDE 4 |
| 09:16.27 | matze | hmm. maybe it should test it. better i do some backups before |
| 09:16.36 | twosouls82 | because of the development of KDE 4.x? |
| 09:16.37 | qupada | won't be anything new to play with until the first public release of 4 |
| 09:16.54 | mabu | 3.5.x third number always means bugfix release |
| 09:16.58 | qupada | which i imagine will be called 3.9.90, probably "4.0 beta 1" |
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| 09:16.59 | mabu | yes |
| 09:17.20 | twosouls82 | mabu: didn't know that about the 3.5.x |
| 09:17.52 | mabu | In firefox is the same 1.0.7 7 means bugfix and small features maybe |
| 09:18.20 | twosouls82 | Houston we've found a bug! |
| 09:18.26 | mabu | http://konqueror4.home.dyndns.org/ Interactive Konqueror Mockup |
| 09:18.29 | twosouls82 | could someone test it? |
| 09:18.48 | mabu | where? |
| 09:18.49 | twosouls82 | you need Klipper and Basket |
| 09:18.58 | mabu | Which KDE? |
| 09:19.02 | twosouls82 | 3.5.2 |
| 09:19.07 | twosouls82 | basket 0.50 |
| 09:19.14 | mabu | ok |
| 09:19.19 | mabu | have both |
| 09:19.23 | twosouls82 | you are in |
| 09:19.25 | twosouls82 | cool |
| 09:19.52 | twosouls82 | enable the clipboard manager basket and then clear klipper |
| 09:20.21 | benjr__ | hmm since ill be removing kde 3.4.3 might be an oportune time to consider my other options, i knwo this is a kde channel so youll like kde i presume, but which X thingee (i dont knwo what kde is) would be best for me if im looking for something shinny and pretty with lots of fluffy features |
| 09:21.04 | qupada | hmmm, i see potential for some silly stunt like releasing the first kde 4 beta on the 10th anniversary of the founding of the project (14th of October 1996) |
| 09:21.07 | mabu | E17 maybe |
| 09:21.07 | twosouls82 | benjr__: then you need this KDE |
| 09:21.26 | mabu | LIght maybe fuxbox |
| 09:22.08 | mabu | KDE with XGL :) |
| 09:22.28 | twosouls82 | mabu: :| |
| 09:23.05 | twosouls82 | mabu: did you confirm a crash? |
| 09:23.18 | mabu | no crash here |
| 09:23.25 | twosouls82 | :S |
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| 09:23.34 | twosouls82 | here it does |
| 09:24.13 | twosouls82 | and I get a very long Backtrace |
| 09:24.19 | matze | why was i warned? |
| 09:24.30 | pinotree | hello =) |
| 09:24.41 | twosouls82 | because of the nasty crash of both klipper and basket |
| 09:24.55 | xroberx | qupada: 14th of October of this year will be the tenth aniversay of KDE ? |
| 09:24.57 | twosouls82 | hi pinotree |
| 09:25.01 | xroberx | hi pino! |
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| 09:25.31 | benjr__ | is there a program in kde that shows me my tempertures? |
| 09:25.43 | mabu | ksensors |
| 09:26.07 | qupada | xroberx: tenth anniversary of the founding of the project, 1.0 wasn't released until july 1998 |
| 09:26.16 | mabu | but you ned lm_sensors to ger temperatures from your motherboard |
| 09:26.23 | Japsu | hmm |
| 09:26.30 | twosouls82 | qupada: so we could have to wait? ;) |
| 09:26.35 | xroberx | benjr__: so you think the first beta of KDE4 will be released in that date ? |
| 09:26.37 | Japsu | http://konqueror4.home.dyndns.org/ feels quite cool |
| 09:27.02 | xroberx | where i said benjr__ i meant qupada :) |
| 09:27.37 | qupada | xroberx: no, i'm saying there is the possibility for something to happen that day, you never know |
| 09:27.45 | xroberx | oh i see |
| 09:27.56 | twosouls82 | Japsu: did I just see a official Mockup for Konq? |
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| 09:28.05 | benjr__ | anyone seen any good april fools day jokes? |
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| 09:28.27 | Japsu | twosouls82: dunno about that "official" part |
| 09:28.33 | Japsu | just reading the explanation |
| 09:28.37 | qupada | benjr__: well slashdot.org is pink... i don't know if that qualifies as "good", but it's annoying |
| 09:28.39 | twosouls82 | kee |
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| 09:29.47 | Japsu | qupada: "OMG!!! Ponies!!!" |
| 09:29.49 | twosouls82 | Japsu: I've it is official It should be corrected, twice I see hidde instead of hidden :D |
| 09:30.06 | qupada | Japsu: yeah... something like that |
| 09:30.09 | Japsu | twosouls82: I don't think it's really official, but it still looks and feels cool. :) |
| 09:30.24 | twosouls82 | Japsu: It sure does |
| 09:31.13 | mabu | http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2153220/google-brand-moon here is one April fools |
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| 09:32.34 | twosouls82 | anyone a cup of coffee? |
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| 09:35.30 | benjr__ | lol, speaking of coffee "espresso left the room (quit: "Lost terminal")." |
| 09:35.46 | twosouls82 | ghegheghe |
| 09:37.13 | twosouls82 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.20 | benjr__ | try typing it in your sever channel thing (dont use irc much) |
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| 09:38.45 | fek | moin |
| 09:38.53 | twosouls82 | benjr__: me neither, a what? |
| 09:39.22 | benjr__ | that freenode bit where you typed "/join #kde" from |
| 09:39.56 | twosouls82 | :$ |
| 09:40.12 | benjr__ | aw well i tried doing it there and it didnt work anyway lol |
| 09:40.47 | JOR-Coder | Pst! Are you giving a reason for being away? |
| 09:41.14 | JOR-Coder | like this /away I'm of to the baar |
| 09:41.15 | twosouls82 | JOR-Coder: that was the problem |
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| 09:41.53 | JOR-Coder | Ups! |
| 09:42.03 | twosouls82 | thanks |
| 09:42.04 | mivecz | how i update to kde3.5 i have kde 3.4 |
| 09:42.05 | mivecz | ? |
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| 09:42.13 | mabu | which distro? |
| 09:42.19 | mivecz | ubuntu |
| 09:42.46 | mivecz | dapper drake |
| 09:42.48 | Japsu | mivecz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php |
| 09:43.01 | Japsu | woosh, take that back |
| 09:43.08 | Japsu | those are breezy packages, not dapper |
| 09:43.26 | mabu | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu/pool-dapper |
| 09:43.48 | mabu | there must be some other way than FTP |
| 09:44.08 | mivecz | i want the default no the kubuntu desktop |
| 09:45.03 | mabu | than you can install kubuntu packages and then rm ~/.kde |
| 09:45.09 | mabu | I think |
| 09:45.33 | twosouls82 | is Kubuntu good on a k8? |
| 09:46.20 | mabu | These packages are available for i386, amd64 and PowerPC. |
| 09:46.20 | mabu | The packages will soon be uploaded to our Dapper development version, pending an upstream version freeze exception. |
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| 09:46.48 | mabu | If you download 64 edition |
| 09:47.07 | twosouls82 | but having one doesn't mean it's good |
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| 09:47.10 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 09:47.32 | mabu | I don't know My last ubuntu was that before breezy for 2 months |
| 09:47.47 | mabu | Now I have Gentoo 32 bits |
| 09:48.17 | mabu | I'm waiting for 64 bit Java Flash and windows codecs than I'll go to 64 |
| 09:48.25 | twosouls82 | mabu: so you do hardcore linux |
| 09:48.26 | twosouls82 | ? |
| 09:48.31 | mabu | kind of |
| 09:48.32 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 09:48.39 | benJIman | mabu: 64bit konqueror can use 32bit flash |
| 09:48.49 | twosouls82 | benJIman: nope |
| 09:48.52 | benJIman | twosouls82: yes |
| 09:48.56 | mabu | I like Firefox more :) |
| 09:49.19 | twosouls82 | benJIman: replace the plugin scan of konqueror |
| 09:49.19 | benJIman | you could also run 32bit firefox on a 64bit system |
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| 09:49.47 | mabu | I know but then there is no benefit over 64 bit system If I have to use 32 bit browser |
| 09:49.51 | benJIman | twosouls82: konqueror can load 32bit plugins, and as it uses java directly and not via a plugin it can use 64bit java |
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| 09:50.02 | benJIman | mabu: browser is only one program |
| 09:50.20 | benJIman | you could always use konqueror anyway |
| 09:50.24 | benJIman | and everything works |
| 09:50.32 | twosouls82 | benJIman: what about flash, since when is it released 64bit? |
| 09:50.44 | benJIman | twosouls82: 64 bit konqueror can use 32bit nspluginloader |
| 09:51.02 | twosouls82 | so that's possible¿ |
| 09:51.05 | benJIman | indeed it is |
| 09:51.33 | twosouls82 | I did a whole lot of work extra |
| 09:51.38 | mabu | I like everything clean :P |
| 09:52.08 | mabu | Maybe during holidays I'll try to switch, currently there is no time |
| 09:52.29 | benJIman | using 32bit stuff isn't as easy on debian based distros as suse though |
| 09:52.41 | mabu | It took 3 days for me to install Gentoo stage 1, cause I was a newbie |
| 09:52.57 | twosouls82 | benJIman: so it should stay with suse :) |
| 09:55.54 | benjr__ | mabu: hows stage1 compare to satge3? ive onyl been suing lkinux for a month and took me about 8hours to get stage3 gentoo installed |
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| 09:56.36 | mabu | In Stage 1 you bootstrap entire system and compile everything |
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| 09:56.53 | benjr__ | ive never even heard of bootstrapping |
| 09:57.02 | mabu | now there is no stage 1, because too many people broke their computers :) |
| 09:57.43 | mabu | Stage one is for learning about the system, you can achieve the same with STage 3 and emerge -e world |
| 09:57.47 | benjr__ | i thought choosing modules for my kernel and writing grub was hard lol |
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| 09:58.28 | inc|freaky | hi all. how to disable that bouncing thing next to the cursor when system is busy? |
| 09:58.41 | benJIman | kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> launch feedback |
| 09:59.06 | mabu | I have to recompile kernel 3 times to include right modules. 1st SATA than network |
| 09:59.14 | inc|freaky | benJIman: thanks :D |
| 10:00.01 | benjr__ | all my mistakes were with grub |
| 10:00.37 | benjr__ | i referued to my drive as (sd0,0) cose it was a sata, didnt realive it was supposed ot be hd regardless |
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| 10:01.39 | dsafda | guys please help me... I updated to 3.5.2 |
| 10:01.40 | benjr__ | and i added a line for a splash image which make all my console scrabled looking with ranodm colours |
| 10:01.58 | dsafda | now if I write bluetooth:/ in the konqueror I receive "bad defined URL bluetooth:/" |
| 10:02.20 | dsafda | could you help me, I need that photos from my mobile phone!!! THANKS |
| 10:03.52 | twosouls82 | does someone have Kubuntu?... is it worth it? |
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| 10:04.06 | mabu | http://www.google.com/romance/ lol |
| 10:04.19 | dsafda | my lsusb recognize the bluetooth device!! Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a5c:200a Broadcom Corp. |
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| 10:06.32 | qupada | dsafda: you do have kdebluetooth installed? |
| 10:06.44 | qupada | Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) |
| 10:08.15 | dsafda | it was installed on the old kde... so I think... let me see |
| 10:08.39 | qupada | try recompiling it against the new version |
| 10:09.21 | pinotree | dsafda: do you have gentoo? |
| 10:09.36 | pinotree | did you update 3.4 -> 3.5? |
| 10:10.06 | xroberx | mabu: i hope that google romance thing is joke, isn't it ? :) |
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| 10:10.31 | qupada | xroberx: you never know. gmail was born on the first of april |
| 10:10.33 | dsafda | I updated from 3.5.1 to 3.5.2 with SuSE 10.0 |
| 10:10.38 | pinotree | k |
| 10:10.42 | xroberx | heh |
| 10:10.45 | dsafda | anyway there is no kde packet http://mi.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/KDE/stable/3.5.2/SuSE/ix86/10.0/ O_O? |
| 10:10.50 | benJIman | xroberx: try searching for something :p |
| 10:10.51 | dsafda | kdebluetooth is not listed |
| 10:10.59 | mabu | xroberx: I think it is |
| 10:11.09 | pinotree | dsafda: kdebluetooth is NOT in the official kde |
| 10:11.12 | qupada | xroberx: speaking of which, happy second birthday gmail |
| 10:11.16 | pinotree | it's an extragear package |
| 10:11.17 | xroberx | benJIman: ohhhhhh hehe |
| 10:11.33 | dsafda | oooo great info pinotree |
| 10:11.41 | dsafda | so I'll get it again... :) |
| 10:11.52 | mabu | xroberx: FAQ is nice :) |
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| 10:12.08 | qupada | i'm starting to doubt this google romance thing... after seeing this: "Post multiple profiles with |
| 10:12.11 | qupada | a bulk upload file, you sleaze |
| 10:13.07 | twosouls82 | dsafda: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.0/applications/kdebluetooth-0.0.svn20051202-10.i586.rpm |
| 10:13.20 | mabu | 7. Come again? |
| 10:13.20 | mabu | You see ads that might make your date better. |
| 10:13.44 | xroberx | this is even better: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html :) |
| 10:13.57 | dsafda | thanks guys... I'm quite drunk for yesterday night... -.-' and I must have that photos.... thanks :) |
| 10:14.24 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 10:17.17 | twosouls82 | dsafda: does it work again? |
| 10:17.23 | dsafda | no... -.-' |
| 10:18.14 | inc|freaky | i got a question: when installing the flatknifty stile (compiling and make install) it doesnt apear in the window decorations ... but everything compiled and installed without problems what am i doing wrong? |
| 10:18.20 | inc|freaky | im using kubuntu |
| 10:18.22 | dsafda | maybe kdebluetooth has something against kde 3.5.2? |
| 10:18.45 | dsafda | is there any other way to download photos without browsing files from konqueror? |
| 10:19.12 | twosouls82 | dsafda: bluetooth works here with kde 3.5.2 |
| 10:20.23 | twosouls82 | dsafda: try looking in kde for the protocols and check if bluetooth:/ is enabled (I can't recall where to find it) |
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| 10:21.42 | mabu | Maybe you can mount bluetooth device. I don't know if it's possible |
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| 10:29.38 | dsafda | bluetooth is unmountable... I don't have that protocol listed O_O you get it |
| 10:29.56 | dsafda | bluetooth:/ is a protocol that konqueror +must+ use |
| 10:31.00 | dsafda | it worked with old address used... with obex:/xxxxxxxxxxxx |
| 10:31.01 | dsafda | O_O |
| 10:31.02 | dsafda | ok |
| 10:32.35 | twosouls82 | O_O?? |
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| 10:33.54 | dsafda | did u understand twosouls82 what happened? :D it worked with obex:/ I needed the browsing only and I already worked with that mobile phone |
| 10:34.11 | dsafda | bluetoot:/ does not work but obex with the correct address works... :) |
| 10:34.15 | dsafda | h |
| 10:34.23 | twosouls82 | dsafda: you go |
| 10:34.30 | twosouls82 | but it should work |
| 10:34.31 | dsafda | yes and that is important |
| 10:34.48 | twosouls82 | I will look into it for you, when I have the time |
| 10:35.17 | dsafda | thanks if I solve I'll tell u |
| 10:35.40 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 10:35.47 | dsafda | I've checked where you told me, is in the control center in SuSE and bluetooth is not listed, I found obex and I remembered |
| 10:36.03 | dsafda | obex ==> mobilephonefiles... °_° |
| 10:36.05 | twosouls82 | okay, wait |
| 10:36.18 | twosouls82 | where in kcontrol?? |
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| 10:39.14 | inc|freaky | how can i tell kde to look for themes etc. at /usr/local/kde ? because styles and window decorations seem to install to there :\ please someone help i want to change the look of kde :( |
| 10:40.42 | xroberx | θ.θ |
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| 10:41.23 | pinotree | inc|freaky: did you compile those themes manually? |
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| 10:43.06 | inc|freaky | pinotree: yea |
| 10:43.11 | inc|freaky | and i cant get them to work |
| 10:43.15 | benJIman | inc|freaky: compile with --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` |
| 10:43.23 | inc|freaky | thgx |
| 10:43.24 | pinotree | sure, because you didn't use the right prefix |
| 10:43.35 | pinotree | ...as benJIman said... |
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| 10:47.45 | inc|freaky | it worked, thankyou! :D |
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| 11:01.22 | atomik | hi all |
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| 11:08.27 | JOR-Coder | Hi! Anybody who knows how to /away "foo" in all channels/servers simultaneously ? |
| 11:08.43 | JOR-Coder | ( using ksirc) |
| 11:09.01 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:09.35 | JOR-Coder | :/ so the answer is, it is not possible :-( |
| 11:09.35 | xroberx | pinotree: maybe he means to display an away msg in all channels |
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| 11:09.46 | pinotree | ah |
| 11:10.06 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.13 | fl | i hav problems with samba - cant write to my share from windows :/ |
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| 11:20.41 | twosouls82 | hi all |
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| 11:21.08 | twosouls82 | I just installed Kubuntu, can't find how to install 3.5.2 |
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| 11:22.48 | pinotree | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php |
| 11:23.01 | sredna | twosouls82: Given you have the correct mirrors, just update |
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| 11:24.42 | pinotree | good weekend, PhilRod |
| 11:24.58 | PhilRod | heya pinotree :-) |
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| 11:29.41 | twosouls82 | pinotree: updating now, thanks |
| 11:29.53 | twosouls82 | sredna: alsa thanks :) |
| 11:29.57 | twosouls82 | also |
| 11:30.01 | sredna | Np |
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| 11:38.37 | TeaSea | sorry everyone, brb again :D |
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| 11:39.23 | twosouls82 | does anyone know what "BREAK (upgrade)" mean at "action" in Adept? |
| 11:40.06 | ninniuz | I think it means it would break other dependencies once u upgrade |
| 11:40.38 | twosouls82 | :S so I can't upgrade all packages to 3.5.2? |
| 11:41.01 | ninniuz | which distro? |
| 11:41.16 | twosouls82 | Kubuntu breezy 5.10 |
| 11:41.31 | ninniuz | me too |
| 11:41.43 | twosouls82 | and you could? |
| 11:41.48 | ninniuz | yes |
| 11:41.53 | ninniuz | but I didnt have that message |
| 11:42.02 | ninniuz | which package is showing that |
| 11:42.16 | twosouls82 | :S, maybe because of my amd64 |
| 11:42.37 | ninniuz | oh I'm not on a amd64 |
| 11:42.53 | twosouls82 | "KDE PIM Exchange library" and 20 others |
| 11:43.25 | ninniuz | dunno what to sya |
| 11:43.27 | ninniuz | say |
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| 11:43.42 | ninniuz | try the kubuntu channel |
| 11:43.49 | twosouls82 | I'll try a restart :P |
| 11:44.03 | twosouls82 | and then the kubuntu chan |
| 11:44.09 | twosouls82 | thanks |
| 11:44.26 | ninniuz | yw |
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| 11:47.11 | inc|freaky | what is the application called, with which you can change the kicker K-kontrol button and have it look like this one: http://pics.freakyy.de/gallery2/v/screens/desktop.png.html ? |
| 11:47.38 | qupada | i imagine (without looking at the screenshot), you're talking about kbfx |
| 11:49.36 | PhilRod | ~kmenu |
| 11:49.37 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
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| 11:51.54 | inc|freaky | thx :D |
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| 13:25.25 | Platyna | Ca i run kde with Y server? |
| 13:25.28 | Platyna | :> |
| 13:25.46 | TeaSea | AFAIK no |
| 13:25.56 | thiago2 | Platyna: does the Y server support X11>? |
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| 13:31.22 | Platyna | Bleh. |
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| 14:05.22 | _abhay_ | hello everyone. i am getting "Error loading kio_tar" when ever I try to open an archive in konqueror. |
| 14:05.27 | _abhay_ | Any ideas on how I can investigate this problem? I have tried searching |
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| 14:06.50 | tstaerk | _abhay_, distro |
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| 14:07.22 | _abhay_ | tstaerk: gentoo |
| 14:07.26 | _abhay_ | KDE 3.5.2 |
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| 14:09.15 | tstaerk | _abhay_, please do not use strange compile parameters |
| 14:09.41 | tstaerk | _abhay_, if you did not, start kinfocenter, look under "protocols" |
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| 14:10.06 | _abhay_ | tstaerk: strange compile parameters? |
| 14:10.50 | tstaerk | _abhay_, the problem is, when compiling on their own, most people make mistakes - especially if they set parameters that are not default. |
| 14:11.14 | tstaerk | _abhay_, when starting kinfocenter, clicking onto protocols -> tar, do you get a description ? |
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| 14:11.46 | _abhay_ | yes i get a description |
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| 14:14.00 | _abhay_ | kio_tar.so module also seems to be there in the correct location but it is somehow not getting loaded |
| 14:15.48 | tstaerk | _abhay_, iirc there was a .desktop or .service file that was responsible in such a case |
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| 14:17.12 | _abhay_ | tstaerk: Thanks for the heping points. I just solved it. the module kio_tar.so was missing from /usr/lib/kde3 |
| 14:17.13 | tstaerk | _abhay_, and I guess tar from commandline does work. |
| 14:17.26 | tstaerk | _abhay_, wonderful. |
| 14:17.29 | _abhay_ | i copied it from /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 and it works now :) |
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| 14:17.32 | _abhay_ | thanks a lot |
| 14:17.46 | tstaerk | _abhay_, that's what I mean with strange parameters |
| 14:18.10 | _abhay_ | tstaerk: but i used the portage defaults |
| 14:18.17 | tstaerk | _abhay_, one parameter says, it's in /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3, the other says, it is in /usr/lib/kde3 |
| 14:18.38 | tstaerk | _abhay_, anyway, using defaults is super and it works for you |
| 14:18.39 | tstaerk | :) |
| 14:19.02 | _abhay_ | till now it used to. i hope it works in future :) |
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| 14:21.25 | twosouls82 | does someone know what to put in the bashrc file to get a colored bash like in Gentoo? |
| 14:22.43 | Worf | do you mean eval `dircolors` and alias ls='ls --color=auto ' ? |
| 14:23.35 | twosouls82 | Worf: does that make my user name get green and the computername purple and the root's name get red?? :D |
| 14:23.38 | tstaerk | do you mean like http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Bash#Bash-specific_features describes |
| 14:24.02 | Worf | twosouls82: no, that does use colors for ls |
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| 14:24.23 | tstaerk | export PS1='\[\e[32m\]\u@\h/\[\e[1;31m\]\w\[\e[1;34m\]\$\[\e[0m\] ' |
| 14:24.28 | Worf | what you talk about seems to be some color codes in PS1 |
| 14:24.29 | Worf | yeah |
| 14:24.35 | twosouls82 | tstaerk: that's what I ment |
| 14:24.42 | twosouls82 | Worf: thanks ;) |
| 14:25.09 | Worf | jikes, that looks awful :) |
| 14:25.39 | twosouls82 | :) easier to see who you actually are (without using whoami) |
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| 14:26.09 | Worf | lol - well, i can read my name pretty well, but you are right, coloring root in red could be a good idea |
| 14:26.33 | twosouls82 | Gentoo does |
| 14:26.40 | twosouls82 | that I knew |
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| 14:31.18 | Hagfish | how do you turn off per-partition Trash directories (in KDE 3.5, Debian)? |
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| 14:44.48 | twosouls82 | Hagfish: don't know... |
| 14:45.01 | twosouls82 | someone else is using Debian? |
| 14:45.55 | Hagfish | i'm wondering if the problem would go away if i just stopped using Konqueror |
| 14:46.07 | Hagfish | or does anything else in KDE create those directories? |
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| 14:46.21 | Hagfish | i don't think i delete files using any other program |
| 14:46.31 | Hagfish | except bash, obviously |
| 14:50.10 | Hagfish | the other alternative would be to create symlinks for every partition, for every user, to point back to that user's home trash directory |
| 14:50.18 | Hagfish | but that method seems a bit of a hack |
| 14:50.44 | Hagfish | well, gotta go to work |
| 14:50.54 | Hagfish | if someone has the answer, could they PM me? |
| 14:51.04 | twosouls82 | good look with it |
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| 14:51.16 | Hagfish | thanks |
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| 15:15.45 | Mitja | How do I install demux plugin for Konqueror? |
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| 15:16.02 | EVILCLX | hi Mitja |
| 15:16.10 | Mitja | EVILCLX, hi |
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| 15:16.19 | EVILCLX | :) |
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| 15:17.05 | Mitja | EVILCLX, do you know? |
| 15:17.42 | EVILCLX | i dont know |
| 15:17.45 | EVILCLX | sorry |
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| 15:46.35 | tech9iner | anyone know how to play vcd on suse10 please? palomine ftp'd it to me and im dying to see his work but have never burned and played a kvcd video before.. burned it to cdr.. but no luck on mplayer / kaffeine |
| 15:46.54 | tech9iner | thanks |
| 15:47.11 | tstaerk | tech9iner, can you play dvds ? |
| 15:47.25 | tech9iner | yes no probs tstaerk |
| 15:47.54 | tech9iner | i can play just bout any format sans this one.. |
| 15:47.57 | tstaerk | tech9iner, then I can't help you - I could teach you how to play dvds, but I do not know what svcds are |
| 15:48.15 | tech9iner | k tx then tstaerk |
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| 15:49.20 | tech9iner | video came down from pals ftp site tstaerk as *.bin file and cue file.. i found barely enough google bits to know cue was for burning |
| 15:49.44 | tech9iner | sure enough k3b auto opened it.. and so i assumptively burned it to cdr |
| 15:50.01 | tech9iner | but on players onboard like it |
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| 15:55.37 | xroberx | hi |
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| 15:57.38 | ruxpin | ignore #KDE JOINS PARTS QUITS |
| 15:57.41 | ruxpin | blah |
| 15:57.53 | Jester | w00ps |
| 15:58.18 | ruxpin | how can I make kioslaves (3.5.1) not to mount /dev/sdb (which does not exist on my usb drive - instead only mount sdb2? |
| 15:58.29 | ruxpin | I can't find the rules anywhere |
| 15:58.40 | xroberx | θ.θ |
| 15:58.58 | mabu | http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-winvista lol |
| 15:59.24 | ruxpin | when I stick in my usb drive, kioslaves opens three windows - sdb , sdb1 and sdb2. the first one is the drive, not a partition |
| 16:00.17 | ruxpin | I have the following in my fstab: |
| 16:00.20 | ruxpin | /dev/sdb none none noauto 0 0 |
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| 16:02.07 | xroberx | mabu: hehehe, very good lecture |
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| 16:20.18 | arn_ | is there an easy way to setup printer sharing in kde or is it just a matter of editing the cupsd.conf |
| 16:20.21 | arn_ | ? |
| 16:20.36 | arn_ | kde 3.5.2 |
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| 16:21.45 | smileaf | control center -> perhipherals -> printers |
| 16:21.59 | arn_ | hey smileaf :) |
| 16:22.03 | arn_ | got my kde working again |
| 16:22.06 | smileaf | morning ;) |
| 16:22.08 | smileaf | cool |
| 16:22.20 | brandon_ | what's up smileaf? |
| 16:22.27 | smileaf | tired |
| 16:22.45 | arn_ | gotta stop staying up late helping poor fools :) |
| 16:22.49 | brandon_ | did you stay up late? |
| 16:22.59 | smileaf | sorta >.> |
| 16:23.08 | smileaf | plus I worked and I work tonight also |
| 16:23.14 | brandon_ | ah, crack cocaine must have been involved |
| 16:23.50 | smileaf | Mmm.. warm comfy bed.. *is still in bed* |
| 16:24.23 | arn_ | I've got a 2 year old crawling on me, not as comfortable :) |
| 16:25.10 | smileaf | I'm not married .. so no kids here :) |
| 16:25.40 | arn_ | that == busy |
| 16:25.49 | smileaf | sounds like it. |
| 16:26.18 | smileaf | how many you going for? or is it a .. however many just happen to come? |
| 16:26.19 | xroberx | arn_: and you still have time to install gentoo from stage1 ? :P |
| 16:26.26 | Worf | yeah. takes a lot of time to teach them to become warriors one day |
| 16:26.51 | arn_ | This will likely be it, smileaf - outgrowing the house |
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| 16:27.03 | smileaf | arn_: get a new house :P |
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| 16:27.05 | arn_ | xroberx: I saved time and installed kubuntu :) |
| 16:27.12 | brandon_ | arn's a catholic |
| 16:27.16 | xroberx | :) |
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| 16:27.54 | brandon_ | close enough |
| 16:27.57 | smileaf | anyone who thinks the world is over crowded should go to alaska ;) |
| 16:28.00 | arn_ | me and religion don't mix |
| 16:28.23 | tstaerk | must be the channel |
| 16:28.54 | arn_ | smileaf: I live in north dakota - only 600k in the whole state |
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| 16:29.08 | smileaf | arn_: there too. |
| 16:29.12 | smileaf | lol |
| 16:29.16 | arn_ | really? |
| 16:29.27 | smileaf | I'm not there no |
| 16:29.30 | smileaf | I'm in Iowa |
| 16:29.31 | arn_ | never mind |
| 16:29.34 | arn_ | still morning |
| 16:30.05 | arn_ | any way, my original question |
| 16:30.16 | brandon_ | that doesn't explain how you get by on 120 packages |
| 16:30.22 | arn_ | I didn't see anything about sharing in the control center |
| 16:30.45 | arn_ | I looked there last night though |
| 16:30.58 | arn_ | I really need to setup vnc to the box though |
| 16:32.02 | smileaf | hmm.. maybe it wasn't there. |
| 16:33.45 | smileaf | Oh... were you wanting to share the printer via samba? |
| 16:33.50 | arn_ | no |
| 16:34.08 | smileaf | as far as I know you don't need to share printers with cups |
| 16:34.19 | arn_ | is gonna connect via another ubuntu machine and my lappy (iBook) |
| 16:34.22 | smileaf | have a cups server started.. and point kde at it. |
| 16:35.04 | arn_ | point kde at it? |
| 16:35.19 | smileaf | yah |
| 16:35.29 | smileaf | just add a remote cups printer |
| 16:35.58 | arn_ | On the machine I want to connect from? Is that what your talking about? |
| 16:36.01 | smileaf | in the backend selection select "Remote CUPS server (IPP/HTTP) |
| 16:36.06 | smileaf | yes |
| 16:36.42 | smileaf | it should automatically pickup any configured printers. |
| 16:36.45 | arn_ | I don't need to do anything on the machine with the printer? |
| 16:36.50 | smileaf | nope |
| 16:36.54 | smileaf | just have printers configured. |
| 16:37.13 | smileaf | don't even need drivers installed on the client side :) |
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| 16:37.21 | arn_ | on my mac I do |
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| 16:39.46 | smileaf | I'm not even sure what happened my drivers were not even installed right, but I still am able to print fine |
| 16:40.07 | arn_ | you must be magic smileaf |
| 16:40.11 | arn_ | :) |
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| 16:42.41 | smileaf | actually I uninstalled the drivers .. for some reason.. then went to print later and it worked. |
| 16:43.26 | brandon_ | why would you uninstall your printer drivers? |
| 16:43.41 | smileaf | brandon_: to try and fix the installation |
| 16:43.43 | brandon_ | that just...makes no sense |
| 16:44.00 | brandon_ | the printer installation or the OS? |
| 16:44.11 | twosouls82 | how do I easily insert special characters in KDE? shortcuts or so, alt + ... |
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| 16:44.27 | smileaf | I manually installed them.. and I wanted them uninstalled before I tried to have a package install them. |
| 16:44.36 | CSE_Y1 | should i upgrade from kde 3.4 to kde 3.5 ? |
| 16:44.41 | brandon_ | i see |
| 16:44.50 | twosouls82 | CSE_Y1: depends |
| 16:44.55 | CSE_Y1 | indeed |
| 16:45.06 | CSE_Y1 | i think i should |
| 16:45.09 | brandon_ | yes you should. the authorities will be at your door if you don't |
| 16:45.17 | twosouls82 | 3.5.2 sure has new features compared to 3.4.x |
| 16:45.18 | CSE_Y1 | but then i also think i shouldnt |
| 16:45.37 | smileaf | why? |
| 16:45.48 | CSE_Y1 | as 3.4 isnt any problem at the moment |
| 16:46.02 | twosouls82 | than don't |
| 16:46.09 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 16:46.10 | CSE_Y1 | u do notthink ? |
| 16:46.15 | brandon_ | one in the hand is better than two in teh bush, is that right? |
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| 16:46.51 | CSE_Y1 | twosouls82: what sorta new stuff is worth updating for |
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| 16:47.33 | twosouls82 | CSE_Y1: session support in kate, and better kopete support, better bluetooth and better multimedia |
| 16:47.36 | smileaf | CSE_Y1: for me kopete's changes were amazing. it's been such a long time since I used 3.4 tho that I forgot what they added.. hehe |
| 16:47.56 | CSE_Y1 | ah |
| 16:48.00 | twosouls82 | webcam support and custom smiley supprt etc |
| 16:48.05 | CSE_Y1 | i see |
| 16:48.13 | smileaf | those weren't it >.> |
| 16:48.18 | CSE_Y1 | does it save history it? |
| 16:48.18 | twosouls82 | you can read it on kde.org |
| 16:48.25 | CSE_Y1 | like convo history |
| 16:48.30 | twosouls82 | brb, look into it |
| 16:48.33 | smileaf | CSE_Y1: yes that's in 3.4 also |
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| 16:48.44 | Ash-Fox | I use 3.5 |
| 16:48.45 | CSE_Y1 | where in the settings? |
| 16:48.50 | smileaf | CSE_Y1: it's a plugin |
| 16:49.02 | Ash-Fox | I remember that smilies, webcam support etc. wern't in 3.4 |
| 16:49.13 | Ash-Fox | oh wait, smilies were, just webcam support wasn't |
| 16:49.14 | twosouls82 | indeed Ash-Fox |
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| 16:49.26 | smileaf | contact list auto-hide was added in 3.5 |
| 16:49.28 | CSE_Y1 | hmm 3.5 looks good :( |
| 16:49.32 | twosouls82 | custom smilies weren't, were theu? |
| 16:49.37 | Ash-Fox | 3.5 cures aids. |
| 16:49.46 | smileaf | CSE_Y1: kicker's changes are nice too. |
| 16:49.52 | twosouls82 | a lot of gui mockups were made |
| 16:50.03 | smileaf | new style that looks alot better. the pager was updated alot |
| 16:50.10 | smileaf | I actually use the pager now |
| 16:50.27 | twosouls82 | Konversation changed too! |
| 16:50.40 | smileaf | konversation isn't part of kde tho ;P |
| 16:50.47 | Ash-Fox | I don't like Konversation so much |
| 16:50.49 | twosouls82 | isn't it? :$ |
| 16:50.53 | smileaf | it's just a really cool kde application |
| 16:51.05 | CSE_Y1 | hmm ok |
| 16:51.08 | Ash-Fox | I like kvirc, but the amazing thing is.. it takes more memory than running mirc under wine :P |
| 16:51.12 | CSE_Y1 | ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/SuSE/ix86/10.0/ |
| 16:51.29 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 16:51.53 | twosouls82 | what do you like about kvirc? |
| 16:52.08 | smileaf | a window can pop up when you insert removable media. (this can also be disabled) |
| 16:52.36 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 16:52.37 | Ash-Fox | twosouls82, particulary the channel management, either this classic style which is mirc like or this tree style, where channels are under networks etc. |
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| 16:53.05 | Ash-Fox | I really hate konversation for having that daft scrolling |
| 16:53.16 | smileaf | daft scrolling? |
| 16:54.09 | trym | kde is da shit |
| 16:54.12 | Ash-Fox | When you're on twelve IRC networks, and many channels, like me. Konversations makes you scroll through the channels and networks. It has no automatic ordering where the channels, networks are on the tab etc. |
| 16:54.46 | brandon_ | yes it does |
| 16:54.49 | Ash-Fox | It's a pain because I don't know when there is new activity on channels that I simply cannot see the button for because I need to scroll. |
| 16:54.51 | brandon_ | that's how it works here |
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| 16:55.02 | brandon_ | everything's tabbed on the bottom |
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| 16:55.37 | Ash-Fox | Brandon, that's not my issue, I need to scroll through the tabs |
| 16:55.43 | smileaf | I'm only ever on 2 networks and a most 3 channels |
| 16:56.38 | brandon_ | i'm still not getting it |
| 16:56.51 | brandon_ | scroll throught them? |
| 16:56.59 | Ash-Fox | Yes |
| 16:57.41 | Ash-Fox | Try joining lots of channels and networks brandon_ |
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| 16:58.02 | Ash-Fox | You won't be able to see them all on the bar. You will need to scroll to get to the ones you want to see. |
| 16:58.05 | brandon_ | well, i've only got one channel open, so i don't know how that's dealt with if there are 12 |
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| 16:58.42 | brandon_ | the problem i have with konversation is that it doesn't display smileys |
| 16:58.49 | TeaSea | brandon_: Uh |
| 16:58.51 | brandon_ | you'd think that wouldn't be a hard thing to include |
| 16:58.52 | TeaSea | That's a good thing? :) |
| 16:59.11 | Ash-Fox | brandon_, try kvirc then |
| 16:59.20 | magyar | how can i "secelt" in kde. If i click on an item it opens up, i just would like to do a select |
| 16:59.31 | Ash-Fox | It supports smilies, avatars, and all sorts of things. |
| 16:59.44 | twosouls82 | does kvirc? |
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| 17:00.18 | brandon_ | i'll see if it's in the repos |
| 17:00.27 | twosouls82 | magyar: in kcontrol go to peripherals and set mouseclick to doubleclick |
| 17:00.31 | Ash-Fox | twosheds, yes |
| 17:00.36 | Ash-Fox | err twosouls82 |
| 17:00.53 | twosouls82 | err? prirates? |
| 17:01.00 | brandon_ | it's kind of heavy, for christ's sake |
| 17:01.04 | brandon_ | 7MB? |
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| 17:02.03 | brandon_ | there's also a "kvirc2" here |
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| 17:02.25 | Q-collective | konversation is also quite lovely :) |
| 17:03.42 | twosouls82 | it sure is, Kvirc looks confusing too me |
| 17:03.49 | magyar | twosouls82: so there is no left click or middle click for select, I like the single click to open things up but some times i need to select a range of files |
| 17:04.36 | twosouls82 | magyar: you can, but have to be more carefull... don't let KDE think you clicked something ;) |
| 17:04.47 | smileaf | magyar: you can select a range of files.. you just can't click on a file |
| 17:05.23 | magyar | ctrl-click works |
| 17:05.26 | magyar | thanks |
| 17:05.37 | Q-collective | oh my |
| 17:05.45 | twosouls82 | Ash-Fox: what is that scripting feature of Kvirc about? too extend it? |
| 17:05.46 | Q-collective | judging on the screenies, kvirc is fugly |
| 17:05.57 | Ash-Fox | twosouls82, much like xchat. |
| 17:06.08 | twosouls82 | dunno xchat |
| 17:06.15 | twosouls82 | just met irc |
| 17:06.23 | Q-collective | xchat is nice |
| 17:06.28 | Q-collective | if you're on gtk+ |
| 17:06.50 | Ash-Fox | Q-collective, it's a lot better than x-chat, any how.. The default themes are such a pain, I had to make my own, which are nice and pretty. |
| 17:07.10 | twosouls82 | for = of |
| 17:07.16 | twosouls82 | or from or such |
| 17:07.18 | magyar | one othe rquestion, anyone knows of any implementation of mail fitering for IMAP accounts for KMAIL? |
| 17:07.22 | Q-collective | Ash-Fox: talking about kvirc or konversation? :) |
| 17:07.37 | Ash-Fox | kvirc |
| 17:07.44 | Ash-Fox | Konversation just annoys me because it doesn't display channels, nicknames the same way x-chat does.. If I am on over say 20 channels, I have to scroll from side to side to see them all. |
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| 17:08.08 | Ash-Fox | And that's quite annoying when you want to see channel activity for all the channels |
| 17:08.09 | smileaf | magyar: settings -> configure pop filters or configure filters they work on imap also |
| 17:08.22 | Q-collective | funny, I think konversation and xchat are almost the same on UI |
| 17:08.28 | Q-collective | :^) |
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| 17:08.56 | twosouls82 | can Konversation show icons/emoticons? |
| 17:09.39 | Q-collective | twosouls82: like graphical? |
| 17:09.41 | Q-collective | yuck :) |
| 17:09.49 | twosouls82 | :D |
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| 17:09.53 | twosouls82 | those I ment |
| 17:10.12 | smileaf | yes we see text smileys :) |
| 17:11.01 | HamishTPB | twosouls82: kvirc has graphical emoticons |
| 17:11.07 | Q-collective | I thought that for a while, in my trillian days |
| 17:11.18 | Q-collective | long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away |
| 17:11.45 | twosouls82 | HamishTPB: don't like the gui of kvirc: can't set it's icon size too 16x16 |
| 17:12.28 | Q-collective | twosouls82: then go use kopete |
| 17:12.29 | Q-collective | :p |
| 17:12.33 | HamishTPB | lol |
| 17:12.47 | HamishTPB | kopete is pretty good but poo for IRC |
| 17:13.04 | twosouls82 | for IRC? can she do that? |
| 17:13.09 | Q-collective | duh :) |
| 17:13.41 | HamishTPB | lol |
| 17:13.48 | HamishTPB | yes twosouls82, it can |
| 17:13.54 | HamishTPB | but it is poo at IRC |
| 17:13.55 | Q-collective | but yeah, I agree with HamishTPB: irc just needs a special kind of UI, stuff that isn't meant for kopete, or gaim for that matter |
| 17:13.58 | HamishTPB | as is gaim |
| 17:13.59 | Q-collective | just mho though |
| 17:14.02 | HamishTPB | lol |
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| 17:14.09 | HamishTPB | great minds think alike Q-collective |
| 17:14.13 | Q-collective | :) |
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| 17:15.13 | HamishTPB | twosouls82: yeah - I tried it for a bit but I found it a bit too immature |
| 17:15.22 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 17:15.34 | Q-collective | can't we just copy-paste xcxhat's code here? |
| 17:15.34 | Q-collective | :P |
| 17:15.38 | Q-collective | xchat* |
| 17:15.57 | HamishTPB | are the KDE discussion groups available on usenet or just by e-mail groups? |
| 17:16.08 | Q-collective | xchat has more scripting support then I ever saw anywhere else |
| 17:16.13 | Q-collective | including mirc or irssi |
| 17:16.31 | Q-collective | mirc only has this stupid "mirc script" anyway ;) |
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| 17:16.40 | twosouls82 | but xchat doesn't integrate well into KDE does she? |
| 17:16.47 | Q-collective | indeed |
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| 17:19.23 | eyeris | Is there any way to make konqueror give me a firefox-like bookmark toolbar where the toolbar only shows bookmarks from a specific folder? |
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| 17:20.01 | Q-collective | omfg |
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| 17:20.18 | Q-collective | pluggin in my usb stick Just Works in kde |
| 17:20.20 | Q-collective | :D |
| 17:20.29 | Q-collective | fuck that Gnome-volume-manager! |
| 17:20.35 | elcuco | hi, does anyone know how cam i import kmail mail folders into evolution? |
| 17:21.13 | pinotree | ask in an evolution or gnome channel, i suppose, not here... |
| 17:21.54 | twosouls82 | elcuco: not the other way around? |
| 17:21.57 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 17:22.09 | Q-collective | hehe |
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| 17:22.31 | Q-collective | kontact > evolution |
| 17:22.31 | twosouls82 | Kontact is amazing |
| 17:23.00 | Q-collective | I was an avid evolution user for years |
| 17:23.07 | Q-collective | but it just broke too many times |
| 17:23.12 | Q-collective | and it lost my mail |
| 17:23.15 | Q-collective | so, fuck it |
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| 17:25.40 | twosouls82 | |main|: hi |
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| 17:26.53 | desowin | does kde 3.5.2 compile againts qt 4 ? |
| 17:26.59 | |main| | hi twosheds |
| 17:26.59 | xroberx | nope |
| 17:27.01 | twosouls82 | no |
| 17:27.01 | |main| | eerr |
| 17:27.04 | |main| | twosouls82: |
| 17:27.05 | |main| | :) |
| 17:27.09 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 17:27.22 | pinotree | desowin: no |
| 17:28.03 | twosouls82 | desowin: qapplication.h = now QApplication and so on |
| 17:28.26 | pinotree | twosouls82: those are cosmetics, <qapplication.h> still works |
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| 17:28.42 | pinotree | (and some other #include's, others not) |
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| 17:28.50 | twosouls82 | pinotree: didn't know that :) |
| 17:29.16 | twosouls82 | just read some blog somewhere |
| 17:29.28 | twosouls82 | :) |
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| 17:30.46 | pinotree | ? |
| 17:31.04 | twosouls82 | will you all appear on the other servers? |
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| 17:31.13 | pinotree | sure |
| 17:31.30 | pinotree | unless in case of netsplits |
| 17:31.46 | pinotree | but those happens quite seldom, luckly |
| 17:32.12 | twosouls82 | the servers don't get 'cloned' then? |
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| 17:32.29 | pinotree | no |
| 17:32.33 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 17:32.51 | twosouls82 | "Connection reset by peer" means..? |
| 17:33.10 | xroberx | connection reset by peer |
| 17:33.23 | twosouls82 | what's a peer, like in p2p...? |
| 17:33.57 | xroberx | the peer is any of the two endpoints of a connection |
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| 17:34.26 | twosouls82 | a see that happening a lot :S |
| 17:35.00 | desowin | twosouls82: because it's big channel |
| 17:35.43 | twosouls82 | luckely I never get wacked :D |
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| 17:37.41 | twosouls82 | is there a Yakuake-like irc client? |
| 17:37.45 | edulix | hi ! |
| 17:37.50 | twosouls82 | hi :) |
| 17:38.08 | edulix | kwrite nor kedit do let me change character codification |
| 17:38.12 | edulix | I'm using kde 3.5.2 |
| 17:38.33 | twosouls82 | edulix: and what about kate? |
| 17:38.39 | edulix | ups |
| 17:38.47 | edulix | i meant kwrite nor kate |
| 17:38.52 | edulix | hehe |
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| 17:38.55 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 17:39.07 | edulix | when I select the new charset, the document is reloaded but still using utf-8 |
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| 17:39.31 | twosouls82 | edulix: I will see if I can do so |
| 17:40.03 | twosouls82 | edulix: works like a charm here |
| 17:40.04 | edulix | twosouls82: the problem appears when opening an existing file, not with a new one |
| 17:41.08 | twosouls82 | edulix: still no problems here, sorry |
| 17:41.11 | edulix | oks |
| 17:41.38 | edulix | my system must be messed up, prelink didn't work very well in my ubuntu dapper |
| 17:42.08 | twosouls82 | time for a clean start? |
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| 17:43.37 | edulix | I'm not going to do that :P |
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| 17:44.33 | feistel | hi |
| 17:44.39 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 17:44.46 | feistel | is possible replace arts for GStreamer ? |
| 17:45.23 | twosouls82 | yes |
| 17:45.35 | twosouls82 | I believe I saw it somewhere |
| 17:45.50 | edulix | well |
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| 17:46.00 | |main| | in kaffeine, and amarok it can be done |
| 17:46.05 | |main| | not sure globally:) |
| 17:46.13 | edulix | that's what I was thinking :P |
| 17:46.40 | pinotree | feistel: for kde3, it'0s still task of the single apps doing that |
| 17:46.50 | edulix | feistel: maybe there's a wrapper to make arts use gstreamer, but replace it, I don't think so |
| 17:46.58 | feistel | :( |
| 17:47.08 | edulix | feistel: why? |
| 17:47.21 | feistel | GStreamer is more stable |
| 17:47.43 | inc|freakyy | how can i disable the apearance of the kicker seperators? im using kbfx and it looks ugly when having that seperator enabled :( |
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| 17:47.57 | ruxpin | where can I find the changelog for 3.5.1 => 3.5.2? |
| 17:48.08 | inc|freakyy | nm got it ;D |
| 17:48.33 | inc|freakyy | how can i resize picture in height? |
| 17:48.47 | twosouls82 | gimp, krita etc |
| 17:49.14 | feistel | ok, I have another question |
| 17:49.32 | feistel | where I can edit the file association database |
| 17:49.46 | twosouls82 | feistel: konqueror or kcontrol |
| 17:50.00 | feistel | without use the KDE based GUIs |
| 17:50.08 | feistel | edit using vi |
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| 17:51.17 | twosouls82 | feistel: new to linux? |
| 17:51.29 | feistel | no |
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| 17:52.14 | feistel | I have a corrupt file association database, when I open a KDE application |
| 17:52.19 | feistel | the next message is displayed |
| 17:52.22 | twosouls82 | feistel: look at /opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop for an example |
| 17:52.36 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 17:52.42 | twosouls82 | you didn't say that |
| 17:53.04 | feistel | "Could not find mime type \n application/octet-stream" |
| 17:53.06 | feistel | any suggest? |
| 17:53.20 | brandon_ | teh gui editor works pretty well for me |
| 17:53.28 | twosouls82 | feistel: have you just updated to 3.5.2 or so?? |
| 17:53.30 | brandon_ | are you having problems with the GUI system? |
| 17:53.39 | twosouls82 | if so, first restart |
| 17:53.44 | feistel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.57 | feistel | I have the problem, since I edit the file association database |
| 17:54.13 | pinotree | feistel: execure kbuildsycoca |
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| 17:54.22 | feistel | pinotree, I try |
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| 17:54.50 | twosouls82 | pinotree: what does it do? |
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| 17:55.09 | paulvolk | Hello |
| 17:55.16 | pinotree | twosouls82: kbuildsycoca == Kde BUILD SYstem COnfiguration CAche |
| 17:55.33 | twosouls82 | sounds handy :) |
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| 17:56.03 | paulvolk | Could anyone tell me a good visual HTML editor? |
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| 17:56.11 | parph | are there gonna continue being maitenance releases till kde 4 comes out? |
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| 17:56.40 | twosouls82 | paulvolk: try quanta, nvu or dreamweaver using wine |
| 17:57.04 | twosouls82 | parph: yes |
| 17:57.15 | twosouls82 | but no feature releases |
| 17:58.10 | feistel | pinotree, I have many Warnings |
| 17:58.18 | pinotree | normal |
| 17:58.28 | feistel | many undefined mimetyp/servicetype |
| 17:58.30 | feistel | is normal? |
| 17:58.55 | inc|freakyy | how can i enable KDE to ask me if i want to save a session, before logout? |
| 17:59.26 | bulibuta | hey, I have a problem with KMail, although I have only one smtp server configured it always requires me to fill in the from: field |
| 17:59.31 | bulibuta | any ideas how to fix this? |
| 17:59.45 | bulibuta | I use KMail at work too, and I don't have this problem. |
| 18:00.04 | Steffi | hello, i got a problem with my kdm, syslog only says greeter abnormal termination...anybody any idea? |
| 18:00.25 | paulvolk | Thanks |
| 18:00.42 | twosouls82 | paulvolk: succeeded? |
| 18:00.50 | twosouls82 | which one? |
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| 18:02.08 | paulvolk | quanta |
| 18:02.13 | twosouls82 | (Y) |
| 18:02.19 | twosouls82 | great choice |
| 18:03.33 | paulvolk | Thanks |
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| 18:03.53 | twosouls82 | anytime |
| 18:04.09 | twosouls82 | whish I could help the others... :) |
| 18:04.19 | inc|freakyy | when using kbfx there is a small maybe 2-3px empty space on the left side how can i get rid of it? (its not the application menu slider/seperator) |
| 18:04.36 | twosouls82 | feistel: problem solved thanks too pino? |
| 18:05.14 | twosouls82 | inc|freakyy: lock the kicker? |
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| 18:05.25 | inc|freakyy | what do u mean? |
| 18:05.28 | inc|freakyy | with lock? |
| 18:05.40 | twosouls82 | would it helkp if you locked the Kicker panel? |
| 18:05.42 | inc|freakyy | i hided the seperators and everything which could be there |
| 18:05.52 | inc|freakyy | i dont know what u mean but i dont think so |
| 18:06.01 | twosouls82 | inc|freakyy: righ click Kicker and than lock |
| 18:06.15 | inc|freakyy | no doesnt help |
| 18:06.19 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 18:07.30 | twosouls82 | why are there three IRC clients for KDE? why don't they all collaborate? |
| 18:07.47 | Blissex | twosouls82: what's the point? |
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| 18:08.06 | Blissex | twosouls82: the essence of free sw is that choice is good. |
| 18:08.07 | twosouls82 | Blissex: can't choose :L |
| 18:08.11 | Mnabil | what is the name of the database in koffice ? |
| 18:08.21 | HuntsMan | Mnabil: Kexi |
| 18:08.23 | twosouls82 | kexi |
| 18:08.23 | Mnabil | package name |
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| 18:08.40 | twosouls82 | Mnabil: which distro? |
| 18:08.51 | Mnabil | kanotix |
| 18:08.55 | Blissex | twosouls82: they are all pretty good. I personally prefer Konversation, then KSIRC, and finally KVIRC |
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| 18:09.12 | Japsu | I prefer irssi. |
| 18:09.17 | Blissex | Mnabil: note that Kexi is not a database, it is a database GUI. You can use it with other databases. |
| 18:09.18 | Japsu | ^^ |
| 18:09.22 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 18:09.30 | Mnabil | Blissex: thnx |
| 18:09.32 | Mnabil | :) |
| 18:10.01 | twosouls82 | Japsu: irssi, a fourth? |
| 18:10.10 | Blissex | twosouls82: scripting _may_ be coming to Konversation. Not very useful to me. I am instead pleading for multiple windows and/or scrollable tabs |
| 18:10.16 | Japsu | twosouls82: irssi, THE irc client. |
| 18:10.21 | Blissex | twosouls82: IRSSI is text only... |
| 18:10.45 | twosouls82 | a bash prog? |
| 18:11.00 | Japsu | pfft |
| 18:11.23 | parph | i've been using kopete's irc client lately |
| 18:11.25 | Japsu | go see for yourself at irssi.org |
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| 18:11.58 | Blissex | parph: ah yes, good point, KDE has _four_ IRC clients, all pretty decent too. |
| 18:12.09 | inc|freakyy | how to change the resolution in kde? |
| 18:12.21 | Blissex | twosouls82: IRSSI is 'curses' based like say Mutt |
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| 18:12.38 | Blissex | inc|freakyy: depends whether bigger or smaller... |
| 18:12.40 | parph | The kopete one does not have as many features as say x-chat or others but still it's more than enough for casual use |
| 18:12.41 | twosouls82 | and Yast party ;) |
| 18:13.02 | inc|freakyy | smaller |
| 18:13.04 | twosouls82 | partly |
| 18:13.31 | twosouls82 | inc|freakyy: krandrtray or something |
| 18:13.34 | Blissex | inc|freakyy: now, for smaller depends on whether the mode you want to go to is already in the config file. |
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| 18:13.52 | parph | thumbs up on the latest kde stable |
| 18:13.57 | Blissex | inc|freakyy: but yes, have a look at command line 'xrandr' or its GUI frontend mentioned by <twosouls82> |
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| 18:15.55 | inc|freakyy | thx :') |
| 18:16.17 | twosouls82 | :') crying? |
| 18:16.41 | Blissex | inc|freakyy: also look at 'Control Center:Peripherals:Display' |
| 18:17.03 | twosouls82 | and at xorg.conf :) |
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| 18:17.23 | nuky | how do you set your default terminal editor to vi? at the moment, mine's on nano.. i managed to set it but it only opens in that for svn terminal editor commands and when i echo $EDITOR, it's blank! |
| 18:17.49 | twosouls82 | nuky: components in Kcontrol |
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| 18:18.08 | nuky | twosouls82: thanks, taking a look now! :) |
| 18:18.20 | Blissex | nuky: it is complicated. |
| 18:19.10 | nuky | Blissex: oh.. i'm just looking for it in components.. |
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| 18:20.24 | twosouls82 | nuky: that will do for kde apps |
| 18:20.34 | Blissex | nuky: command line there is both '$EDITOR' and '$VISUAL'. For many programs it is set in '/etc/mailcap', for KDE it is either 'Control Center:Components' or file associations. |
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| 18:22.13 | Isil`Zha | hi. with kcontrol i can set up the sound system as i want if i start it as root. these setting though won't get applied for the normal users. there i can't activate the sound server in real time |
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| 18:23.05 | Blissex | Isil`Zha: real time privilege is for 'root' only; also KDE settings for 'root' are just for 'root'. |
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| 18:23.26 | Alethes | grrrr konq drives me absolutely insane |
| 18:23.42 | twosouls82 | but how do you set global settings? Kate..? |
| 18:23.43 | Alethes | I wish the devs had never thought to make the browser and file manager -- two very different tasks -- one application |
| 18:24.01 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: so this would still work for any user? i mean would they have the sound server in realtime or not? |
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| 18:24.11 | twosouls82 | Alethes: I disagree |
| 18:24.15 | Blissex | Alethes: well, implementation wise they are just about the same thing. |
| 18:24.23 | Alethes | I can't make the file manager and web browser toolbars show separately per profile |
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| 18:24.30 | Blissex | Alethes: and then Konqueror can have multiple, very different, profiles. |
| 18:24.50 | Alethes | so I end up with all the browser crap with my file manager profile and vice versa |
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| 18:25.08 | Alethes | I want the main and extra toolbars to show for the file manager and just the location bar for the browser |
| 18:25.24 | Alethes | if they were separate applications, this would not be an issue |
| 18:25.39 | Alethes | and merging the apps just makes it more complicated than necessary |
| 18:25.47 | Blissex | Isil`Zha: if you want the sound starter work in real time for a non 'root' user you should be starting the sound dæmon as 'root', like SUID. If that is OK for you there are some tutorials on this |
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| 18:26.07 | Blissex | Alethes: I think that you can do that somehow. Have a look at the standard ''simple browsing'' profile |
| 18:26.34 | Blissex | Alethes: also, Konqueror, like say IE, is not an app, it is a frontend to several ''components''... |
| 18:26.36 | Alethes | I already know how to change and save profiles, but konq wants me to leave the toolbars as they are across the board |
| 18:26.50 | Alethes | Blissex: yeah, but we all know what a piece of crap IE is, right? :) |
| 18:26.53 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: so it's not possible to have it activated automatically? actually there is not much use to activate this for the root user alone right? |
| 18:27.47 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: i'll look for these tutorials. thanks so far |
| 18:28.15 | Blissex | Isil`Zha: usually one sets 'artsd' to be setuid 'root' if one is a bit optimistic. |
| 18:29.24 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: i thought the artswrapper should do this job? but if it isn't started as needed it won't work i guess |
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| 18:29.54 | Blissex | Isil`Zha: then 'artswrapper' is not setuid 'root'. |
| 18:29.55 | twosouls82 | nice and shiny qtcurve :) |
| 18:30.10 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: ok let me check this... |
| 18:30.55 | twosouls82 | how does one do "TeaSea has left this server ("Leaving")."? |
| 18:32.13 | twosouls82 | or is it automated? |
| 18:32.17 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 18:33.04 | Alethes | gah! I absoluetely cannot handle this |
| 18:33.11 | Alethes | it's so friggin' broken |
| 18:33.33 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: as far as i can see it actually is. set to 4711 |
| 18:34.18 | Blissex | Isil`Zha: and is it owned by 'root'> |
| 18:34.19 | Q-collective | Alethes: yeah, different toolbars per profile would be cool |
| 18:34.29 | Alethes | it used to work before I got 3.5.1 |
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| 18:34.35 | Isil`Zha | Blissex: yes |
| 18:34.44 | Alethes | but like I said, if they'd split the apps, it wouldn't suck this bad anyway |
| 18:34.46 | Q-collective | Alethes: try 3.5.2? :) |
| 18:35.05 | Alethes | can you confirm that this is fixed before I bother? :) |
| 18:35.07 | Q-collective | konq hardly sucks, just has a few minor UI issues |
| 18:35.26 | Q-collective | Alethes: I never really got it working :p |
| 18:36.19 | Q-collective | yeah, go from bad to worse |
| 18:36.21 | Q-collective | heh |
| 18:36.25 | twosouls82 | haha |
| 18:36.25 | tiocsti | i dunno, wouldnt the benchmark for konq being good be if people install kde and dont install firefox, then konq is good |
| 18:36.35 | Alethes | at least it's a separate browser from the file manager |
| 18:36.35 | tiocsti | most people dont consider it an adequate firefox replacement i dont think |
| 18:37.03 | twosouls82 | others do |
| 18:37.12 | Alethes | browsing wise, it's fine |
| 18:37.24 | Alethes | UI-wise it makes my skin crawl |
| 18:37.31 | Q-collective | :) |
| 18:37.37 | Alethes | but the rendering is great |
| 18:37.44 | Q-collective | indeed |
| 18:37.54 | Q-collective | and firefox is sooo laggy |
| 18:37.55 | Alethes | if I had a clue about programming with C++/QT, I'd just embed khtml into a new app |
| 18:38.07 | Q-collective | the UI just freezes when it loads a big page |
| 18:38.11 | Q-collective | firefox-- |
| 18:38.31 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 18:38.39 | twosouls82 | from bad to worse |
| 18:38.40 | Q-collective | Alethes: about time to learn? |
| 18:38.41 | Q-collective | :) |
| 18:38.48 | Alethes | it's on my agenda |
| 18:38.53 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 18:39.12 | Alethes | I could call it firekox |
| 18:39.14 | Alethes | oh wait |
| 18:39.16 | Alethes | that's a bad idea :D |
| 18:42.31 | Blissex | Q-collective: Konqueror is rather freeze prone for me too. |
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| 18:44.03 | Mitja | If anyone has a working x-mplayer2 plugin in Konqueror or Opera please tell me how you installed it. |
| 18:44.29 | Q-collective | firekox |
| 18:44.31 | Q-collective | lmfao :) |
| 18:44.36 | Blissex | Mitja: what is a «x-mplayer2 plugin»? |
| 18:44.54 | Q-collective | Mitja: emerge kmplayer |
| 18:45.16 | Mitja | Blissex, it's for wmv files |
| 18:45.16 | Q-collective | /gentoo-minded |
| 18:45.42 | Blissex | Mitja: you are assuming something wrong here... |
| 18:45.52 | Mitja | Blissex, enlighten me then |
| 18:46.29 | Q-collective | USE=win32codecs emerge kmplayer |
| 18:46.30 | Q-collective | :> |
| 18:46.37 | Blissex | Mitja: is what you want to do just playing WMV files? |
| 18:46.45 | Mitja | Q-collective, I don't have emerge, rather, apt-get |
| 18:46.53 | Q-collective | your bad :^) |
| 18:47.07 | Blissex | Q-collective: spreading the word of Chaos eh? :-) |
| 18:47.26 | Q-collective | Blissex: I'm lord of chaos, how can I do anything else? :p |
| 18:48.05 | Mitja | Blissex, I want to play embedded wmv files, it's just showing "plugin content" now instead |
| 18:48.53 | Q-collective | Mitja: get the win32codecs, put them in /usr/lib/win32, apt-get install kmplayer and be happy |
| 18:48.57 | Blissex | Mitja: well, the way to do it is to use the embeddable ''part'' of Kaffeine or KMPlayer (mentioned by <Q-collective>) or another embeddablem player. |
| 18:49.21 | Q-collective | Blissex: you can make kaffeine integrate in konq? :o |
| 18:49.26 | Q-collective | I never got that |
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| 18:50.39 | Blissex | Mitja: then you must ensure that Kaffeine in either Xine or MPlayer mode, or KMPlayer, are setup to play WMV files, and for that you need to the proprietary codecs mentioned by <Q-collective> |
| 18:51.11 | Mitja | Codecs are already there... |
| 18:51.15 | Blissex | Mitja: to do all this you need to use the Marillat repository, because the proprietary codecs and apps that can use them cannot be part of Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 18:52.13 | Blissex | Q-collective: Mitja: to enable embedding, in Konqueror look at 'Settings:Configure Konqueror:File Associations' |
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| 18:52.46 | Q-collective | Blissex: been there, saw that, got the tshirt |
| 18:52.47 | Blissex | Q-collective: Mitja: then select say 'x-ms-wmv' and click on the 'Embedding' tab. |
| 18:52.56 | Blissex | Q-collective: I got Kaffeine in there... |
| 18:53.35 | Blissex | Q-collective: I got Kaffeine in there... as 'kaffeine_part' |
| 18:53.40 | Q-collective | I've got vlc as the first everywhere |
| 18:53.42 | Q-collective | heh |
| 18:53.50 | Q-collective | ah |
| 18:53.59 | Blissex | Q-collective: that _obviously_ does not embed in KDE :-) |
| 18:55.18 | Mitja | Do I have to restart anything? Because Konqueror still complains about "couldn't find demux" |
| 18:56.01 | Blissex | Mitja: depends, that's probably about the codecs, not the embedding, but hard to say. |
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| 18:57.07 | Mitja | Do I have to tell Kaffeine where the codecs are? |
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| 18:57.18 | straw | Mitja: yes |
| 18:57.28 | illogical | you shouldn't have to unless it's in some weird place. |
| 18:57.43 | Mitja | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.58 | straw | 0.8 defaults to /usr/lib/codecs now iirc |
| 18:58.12 | Q-collective | ouch |
| 18:58.12 | Q-collective | anyone got what I've been saying the last 5 minutes or so? |
| 18:58.22 | Q-collective | anyway |
| 18:58.27 | Q-collective | that cryengine2 is sooooooooooooooo horny |
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| 18:58.39 | illogical | ? |
| 18:58.47 | Blissex | Q-collective: every cretin can do something cool given infinite hw... |
| 18:58.48 | Q-collective | we really should have something like that in opensourceland |
| 18:59.08 | Q-collective | Blissex: true enough |
| 18:59.17 | Blissex | Q-collective: there are pretty decent open source engines that don't require mortaging your house... |
| 18:59.40 | Q-collective | Blissex: the fun part of an opensource version of it would be to run all that nice stuff of a radeon 7000 on dri drivers ;D |
| 18:59.42 | Blissex | Q-collective: for example, the Titan engine could do almost all of what Quake 3 does |
| 18:59.57 | Q-collective | oh, nice |
| 19:00.05 | Q-collective | I need to look into titan then :) |
| 19:00.13 | Blissex | Q-collective: and actually there is a commercially developed open source engine, Nebula, developed by an actual game company |
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| 19:01.05 | Blissex | also, to my great surprise there are are interesting open source realtime raytracing engines, mostly develope in some german uni. |
| 19:01.08 | Q-collective | Blissex: titan is only for windows? |
| 19:01.31 | Blissex | Q-collective: I used on it on Linux too IIRC, it uses OpenGl. |
| 19:01.55 | Q-collective | hmm |
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| 19:02.30 | Q-collective | Blissex: you know the ul of the project page? :) |
| 19:02.37 | Q-collective | google is fucking with me :p |
| 19:02.45 | Q-collective | s/ul/url/ |
| 19:02.51 | Blissex | Q-collective: it used to be somewhere in Spain, wait a sec |
| 19:04.39 | Blissex | Q-collective: raytracing: http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/RTGames/ http://home.earthlink.net/~howlers/bryan/quickray.html |
| 19:05.04 | Q-collective | :) |
| 19:05.47 | Blissex | Q-collective: Titan used to be here: http://castano.ludicon.com/files/titan/ |
| 19:06.05 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 19:06.13 | Q-collective | nice and impressive website |
| 19:06.15 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 19:06.18 | Blissex | Q-collective: huge list here: http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/3del_1419_src_api_ogl.html |
| 19:06.43 | Q-collective | :) |
| 19:06.46 | Q-collective | btw |
| 19:06.48 | Blissex | Q-collective: smaller list here: http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Graphics/Libraries/OpenGL/3D_Engines/ |
| 19:07.12 | Q-collective | please say that konq has some plugin or option to do "find as you type"? |
| 19:07.16 | Q-collective | PLEASE |
| 19:07.27 | Blissex | Q-collective: '/' |
| 19:07.30 | Q-collective | I can't live without it anymore! :( |
| 19:08.10 | Q-collective | Blissex: good, but still one button too much :^) |
| 19:08.41 | Blissex | Q-collective: a lot of people whine about having to type that leading "/" |
| 19:08.41 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 19:08.54 | Q-collective | hehe, yeah |
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| 19:12.59 | Blissex | Q-collective: ahhh the author of Titan has done something new: http://castano.ludicon.com/projects.php |
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| 19:13.18 | Blissex | Q-collective: BTW, of course now the Quake 3 engine itself is GPL'ed, so it fully counts as open source. |
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| 19:19.08 | brandon_ | i've never figured out exactly how to install quake |
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| 19:20.50 | mabu | what about cube? |
| 19:20.55 | Blissex | brandon_: Which one? Which distro? |
| 19:20.55 | mabu | http://www.cubeengine.com/ |
| 19:21.12 | brandon_ | ubuntu w/the k...desktop environment |
| 19:21.18 | Blissex | mabu: Cube is cute too, I think it was in one of those lists... |
| 19:24.18 | mabu | ok |
| 19:24.25 | mabu | nexuiz seems nice too |
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| 19:31.45 | brandon_ | anybody know anything about php? |
| 19:31.53 | arn | yes |
| 19:32.00 | arn | administration of programming? |
| 19:32.01 | brandon_ | php expert? |
| 19:32.13 | brandon_ | master of the known universe? |
| 19:32.23 | brandon_ | awesome |
| 19:32.32 | brandon_ | here's the juice |
| 19:32.56 | brandon_ | what i've got is a folder full of jpegs, k? |
| 19:33.04 | arn | k |
| 19:33.23 | brandon_ | and i want to write a little script to grab the name of a picture and toss it into a url |
| 19:33.45 | arn | a specific file/ |
| 19:33.46 | arn | ? |
| 19:33.48 | brandon_ | it should be totally random, and shouldn't depend on a database of the photo names |
| 19:34.21 | arn | you already know the base url though so you only need the filename right? |
| 19:34.36 | brandon_ | so that every time somebody loads the web page, there's a new, random picture in that spot |
| 19:34.47 | arn | sure |
| 19:34.56 | brandon_ | all of the pictures are exactly the same size, and they're all located in the same folder |
| 19:35.08 | brandon_ | BUT, there will be an increasing number of them |
| 19:35.38 | brandon_ | is it possible to do that job without tossing all fo the names into an sql database first? |
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| 19:35.54 | arn | yes |
| 19:36.01 | brandon_ | cool |
| 19:36.04 | arn | but give me a second |
| 19:36.27 | brandon_ | can you give me some idea of what the code would look like? i'm not totally unversed in php or basic scripting |
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| 19:37.48 | arn | sorry about that |
| 19:37.53 | arn | my sister was at the door |
| 19:37.57 | brandon_ | no problem |
| 19:38.27 | arn | ok, so you want to read the contents of a directory, then randomly fill one of the files into an src tag for an image, right? |
| 19:38.29 | brandon_ | this would be a plugin in wordpress, so the url of the picture would just include a php call |
| 19:38.36 | brandon_ | right |
| 19:39.26 | arn | k, let me look to see if there is a function to read the directory, otherwise you would have to do something like $dirContents = `ls <path>`; |
| 19:39.39 | arn | those are backticks |
| 19:39.43 | arn | not quotes |
| 19:39.49 | brandon_ | i understand |
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| 19:43.28 | arn | brandon_: see http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.readdir.php |
| 19:43.31 | brandon_ | so you can use wildcards in php, such as *.jpg? |
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| 19:43.43 | arn | that will read the files of the directory |
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| 19:43.51 | arn | you can put them into an array |
| 19:44.03 | brandon_ | right |
| 19:44.21 | Enverex | Is there anyway of speeding up Konq so it doesn't take ages to load each time I want to open a folder? |
| 19:44.28 | arn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.28 | arn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.29 | arn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.38 | arn | instead of what they have |
| 19:45.42 | arn | then do a $randFile = array_rand($dirContents); |
| 19:45.57 | arn | That should give you a file name of a random file from the directory |
| 19:46.18 | arn | You want me to put it all together? |
| 19:46.38 | brandon_ | not if it's going to take a long time |
| 19:46.50 | brandon_ | i mean i don't wnat to waste your time |
| 19:47.04 | brandon_ | but it would be great if you could |
| 19:47.19 | arn | I'm copying and pasting their code, will only take a sec |
| 19:47.25 | brandon_ | awesome |
| 19:47.27 | brandon_ | thank you |
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| 19:48.37 | brandon_ | can i make this a function, and then call it in the img tag, like scr="http..<?php sticker ?> blah blah balh |
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| 19:49.39 | arn | brandon_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0awpXO18.html |
| 19:50.02 | arn | yes, you could make it into a function and just return the $randFilename var; |
| 19:50.46 | brandon_ | so in "path to dir" is that going to be the absolute path, or can i make it relative? |
| 19:51.06 | arn | It would have to be the absolute path on the filesystem |
| 19:51.11 | arn | not the path for the html |
| 19:51.17 | brandon_ | ok, we're going to have a problem |
| 19:51.23 | arn | why is that? |
| 19:51.29 | arn | you don't know the path? |
| 19:51.40 | brandon_ | no, something else |
| 19:51.55 | brandon_ | some of the files contained in the folder being read are not appropriate |
| 19:52.05 | brandon_ | there's an index.html file for one thing |
| 19:52.08 | arn | k |
| 19:52.25 | brandon_ | that's why i was wondering if wildcards like *.jpg could be used |
| 19:53.46 | arn | no problem |
| 19:54.38 | Enverex | I'm going to be making substancial changes to the OpenWith/Mimetypes/Filetype Icons etc via kcontrol. Are these things that may get changed or overwritten in subsiquent versions of KDE or should I be safe? |
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| 19:56.00 | mhall | What website can I visit to get really good KDE desktop wallpapers? I need to outpost some windows idiots on a forum. |
| 19:56.26 | Enverex | Google, heh |
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| 19:56.46 | Enverex | Does anyone know any places to get SVG icons? |
| 19:57.05 | paulvolk | anyone here use PCLinux? |
| 19:57.23 | brandon_ | pclinuxos, to be precise |
| 19:57.35 | mhall | Enverex: yeah i just figured somebody might have a trick up their sleeve ;-) |
| 19:58.03 | paulvolk | ya that is it does anyone use it here? |
| 19:58.08 | mhall | Enverex: i get tired of 'oh wow i'm so 1337 because i get to use 1 of the 2 available windows themes that's different from the default' |
| 19:58.09 | illogical | paulvolk: used to. |
| 19:58.35 | Enverex | mhall: Just take pride in the fact that they pay for that crap |
| 19:58.38 | mhall | Enverex: and i get tired of 'ooh cool my apps violate UI conventions to look more cool, it's so awesome i don't even care if it makes them impossible to use' |
| 19:58.41 | paulvolk | Was it any good? |
| 19:58.50 | mhall | Enverex: yeah i know isn't it hilarious? |
| 19:59.03 | paulvolk | illogical: was it any good? |
| 19:59.08 | mhall | Enverex: i can't believe how much more i get done since i switch to linux full-time |
| 19:59.22 | mhall | Enverex: i used it forever but you really have to use it all the time to 'get' how good it is |
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| 19:59.56 | Enverex | I'd think everyone would use SVG icons, seems it's only me though =/ |
| 20:00.00 | mhall | especially KDE, all of the stock KDE apps pretty much own my bones. |
| 20:00.11 | mhall | Enverex: SVG icons? that's pretty cool. have you got a link? |
| 20:00.29 | Enverex | ... would I be asking for places to get SVG icons if I did? |
| 20:00.41 | mhall | Enverex: hehe |
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| 20:00.43 | mhall | hmm |
| 20:00.55 | Enverex | I've replaces most of my key icons with SVG icons, but my selection is pretty limited atm |
| 20:01.38 | grepper | most of em come in svg, no ? |
| 20:01.46 | YggdrasilOS | kde-look.org has a fair number of icons to choose from |
| 20:01.47 | grepper | just that they are converted to png |
| 20:02.11 | Enverex | grepper: Possibly, yeah, I want the SVGs though, heh |
| 20:02.32 | Enverex | YggdrasilOS: I think I was going to try there before but the site wasn't responding |
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| 20:02.41 | mhall | Enverex: yeah i searched google with 'vector icons kde' and got http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:02.47 | arn | brandon_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VGQlG852.html |
| 20:02.57 | Enverex | mhall: Thats one icon set and it's really crap |
| 20:03.12 | arn | If you know some one who is good with regexp, you can do it more efficiently, but this should work |
| 20:03.22 | mhall | Enverex: ah |
| 20:04.01 | YggdrasilOS | anyone here have much experience mucking about with ALSA? |
| 20:04.02 | grepper | find /usr/share/icons/ -regex .*\*svg$|wc -l |
| 20:04.02 | grepper | 753 |
| 20:05.00 | Enverex | grepper: I think I checked there before but couldn't find any SVGs |
| 20:05.04 | YggdrasilOS | i'm trying to get aRts to send its output to esd (because dmix sucks, and refuses to work), but i'm not sure how to get esd itself to avoid dmix |
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| 20:05.41 | grepper | plus another 350 svgz |
| 20:05.41 | yannf | hi |
| 20:05.47 | arn | brandon_: still there? |
| 20:06.24 | yannf | i have a keyboard pb with KDE |
| 20:06.38 | yannf | Gtk applications work fine |
| 20:06.46 | brandon_ | yes, thanks arn. i had to go to get some foodstuffs |
| 20:06.51 | brandon_ | just got back |
| 20:06.54 | arn | k |
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| 20:07.05 | supertux1453 | k |
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| 20:07.20 | yannf | but i don't have any éà ù, etc. with all KDE applications |
| 20:07.36 | yannf | encoding pb it seems |
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| 20:07.50 | supertux1453 | re alkinoe? |
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| 20:08.00 | supertux1453 | pou eisai re patrida? |
| 20:08.04 | supertux1453 | kala? |
| 20:08.08 | arn | the strcasecmp should make so that it will still find it if it has .JPG or .jpg brandon_ |
| 20:08.35 | brandon_ | cool |
| 20:08.39 | supertux1453 | ELLINES PIDIKSTE TOUS VROMOKSENOUS |
| 20:08.40 | pinotree | supertux1453: english, please |
| 20:08.41 | yannf | any idea please? |
| 20:08.51 | supertux1453 | HA HA HA |
| 20:08.59 | yannf | my locales are fine, X config is fine |
| 20:09.15 | supertux1453 | AI GSTA GAMIDIA RE MALAKISTIRIA |
| 20:09.16 | brandon_ | i'll make it a wordpress plugin and test it as soona s i'm done eating |
| 20:09.24 | pinotree | supertux1453: ENGLISH, PLEASE |
| 20:09.31 | supertux1453 | OK |
| 20:09.38 | arn | if you need more help, go ahead and ping me |
| 20:09.44 | brandon_ | k |
| 20:09.47 | arn | gonna do some web research |
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| 20:10.11 | hanasaki | what is mcop? |
| 20:10.18 | Fri13 | Is there way to get konqueror use mouse scroll like 3.5.1 version, like when i just hover mouse over list it scrolls them. Now 3.5.2 it needs first click. ? |
| 20:10.25 | supertux1453 | JUST NEED TO SPEAK TO A PERSON IN MY LANGUAGE |
| 20:10.47 | mhall | supertux1453: it would help if you said which one it was |
| 20:10.57 | Fri13 | konqueror = konqueror as webbrowser |
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| 20:11.05 | Enverex | supertux1453: Stop being obnoxious and shouting |
| 20:11.28 | supertux1453 | ITHIS IS NOT ALLOWED |
| 20:11.41 | mhall | Enverex: hmm, troll? |
| 20:11.51 | supertux1453 | I CANNOT TELL YOU |
| 20:11.55 | Enverex | mhall: Why else would be be writing constantly in CAPS |
| 20:11.58 | pinotree | oh, sure you can |
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| 20:12.06 | pinotree | tell us or go away |
| 20:12.06 | mhall | Enverex: and saying such entirely bizarre things to boot |
| 20:12.25 | mhall | well, time to *plonk* |
| 20:12.29 | supertux1453 | MY ANCIENT LANGUAGE IS IN CAPS |
| 20:12.36 | mhall | ah, feels much better |
| 20:12.36 | Enverex | His English seems fluent yet he claims not to speak English (!). And regardless what language you speak natively, you don't write entirely in caps |
| 20:12.48 | mhall | Enverex: yes; this is not self-consistent |
| 20:12.51 | pinotree | Fri13: try scrolling when hovering on the scrollbar |
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| 20:13.13 | pinotree | supertux1453: MY PREVIOUS LIFE WAS A IRC ADMIN |
| 20:13.14 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
| 20:13.30 | pinotree | please be polite |
| 20:13.51 | pinotree | or go away, nobody block you here |
| 20:13.53 | gattaca | omg!!! admin ponies!!! |
| 20:14.03 | pinotree | gattaca: -.- |
| 20:14.04 | cenuij | die |
| 20:14.10 | supertux1453 | HOW CAN I GET TO A CHANNEL OF WINDOWS IRC? |
| 20:14.20 | Fri13 | pinotree: It works but it's annoing that i need "aim" to that. And if i have this listbox what i need click first to get list opened, i liked way that i just hover mouse and i can scroll to select what i want and then just click "OK" or something. |
| 20:14.40 | pinotree | Fri13: list in a webbrowser, right? |
| 20:14.44 | Fri13 | http://www.kde.org/ Like from right upper corner is "kde.org". |
| 20:14.50 | Fri13 | pinotree: yes |
| 20:14.56 | supertux1453 | KDE.ORG? |
| 20:15.07 | Enverex | supertux1453: Turn. Caps. Lock. OFF. |
| 20:15.16 | supertux1453 | ok |
| 20:16.12 | supertux1453 | where must i write and what i must write to? |
| 20:16.28 | supertux1453 | be specific |
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| 20:16.57 | Enverex | supertux1453: Not here and no-one knows. These are all Linux channels. |
| 20:17.00 | Fri13 | pinotree: and now on 3.5.2 it works so that i need first click that listbox and then i can scroll it. This new way is easier to new user who use scroll on page where is lots of this kind boxes and scrolling dont stop to those areas, but i miss that old one :-( |
| 20:17.25 | Enverex | grepper: heh, I ran those commands, only 67 and 1 respectively, and afaik the .svgs in there are the ones I put there. |
| 20:17.33 | Enverex | grepper: Must have been stuff you added |
| 20:17.35 | supertux1453 | i am a suse user |
| 20:17.53 | supertux1453 | there must be a way |
| 20:17.54 | pinotree | Fri13: that list (==a combobox) i think always need focus |
| 20:18.06 | Enverex | supertux1453: So why did you ask where to find Windows channels? |
| 20:18.12 | Fri13 | supertux1453: what's your problem? did you try find help from google first? |
| 20:18.35 | supertux1453 | so i can speak to people that use windows? |
| 20:18.53 | supertux1453 | or are they not people at all? |
| 20:19.32 | Fri13 | pinotree: on 3.5.1 it didnt need click comboboxes first, just hover cursor over it and scroll and it changed them :-/ |
| 20:19.48 | Fri13 | pinotree: like now but it just need click first... |
| 20:20.01 | vanten_ | hi all, the bluetooth en sdp kioslaves, are they part of the kdebluetooth package? I'm getting "Malformed URL: bluetooth:/" in konqui |
| 20:20.11 | Enverex | grepper: I'm checking the kde-look site but it seems like there are very few and lots of people are retarded and just put SVG in the name for the sake of it |
| 20:20.32 | pinotree | Fri13: that's weird, i have kde 3.5.1 and don't get that behaviour |
| 20:20.49 | Fri13 | pinotree: Huh? |
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| 20:21.11 | pinotree | Fri13: the possibility to scroll a combo without clicking on it |
| 20:21.26 | Fri13 | pinotree: That's very wierd..... |
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| 20:22.11 | supertux1453 | ai sta gamidia |
| 20:22.36 | pinotree | sigh |
| 20:22.58 | Fri13 | pinotree: i liked that when webpage has message box and i type long message there and then it shows bars on that type area and i can move page up just scrolling when i move mouse away from box and i can scroll message box again when i just hover mouse over it... |
| 20:23.07 | brandon_ | supertux1453: what you need to do is put a very powerful magnet up next to your hard drive |
| 20:23.17 | pinotree | brandon_: LOL |
| 20:23.34 | Fri13 | brandon_: HAHA |
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| 20:23.57 | supertux1453 | remalia |
| 20:23.58 | YggdrasilOS | asking for Windows help in a Linux-oriented channel is a good way to get flamed |
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| 20:24.20 | supertux1453 | ti eisai esi? |
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| 20:24.32 | Enverex | I mean, FFS, the theme "Crystal SVG" ISNT SVG!!! |
| 20:24.36 | YggdrasilOS | especially in one like #kde, that doesn't cover things like switching over from windows to linux |
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| 20:24.53 | supertux1453 | kapios ellinas na milisei den iparxei edo? |
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| 20:25.00 | pinotree | supertux1453: last chance, english or away |
| 20:25.02 | tstaerk|KDE4 | supertux1453, try kde-ch for chinese or kde-it for italian kde |
| 20:25.15 | supertux1453 | no |
| 20:25.18 | pinotree | tstaerk|KDE4: he's not italian, i can assure you |
| 20:25.25 | pinotree | then away |
| 20:25.27 | supertux1453 | i am not |
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| 20:25.39 | benJIman | Enverex: I think the svg versions are available with it |
| 20:25.56 | benJIman | Enverex: many things still need the pixmaps |
| 20:25.57 | supertux1453 | anyway there is not another channel in here? |
| 20:26.03 | benJIman | svg support is much better in Qt4.x |
| 20:26.18 | tstaerk|KDE4 | supertux1453, tell us your language and I tell you your channel. |
| 20:26.24 | supertux1453 | greek |
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| 20:27.01 | supertux1453 | do you have a solution? |
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| 20:27.14 | tstaerk|KDE4 | supertux1453, yes - staying in english |
| 20:27.23 | supertux1453 | ok |
| 20:27.44 | supertux1453 | i am waiting for you to inlight me |
| 20:28.05 | YggdrasilOS | supertux1453, maybe if you'd describe your problem? |
| 20:28.14 | tstaerk|KDE4 | supertux1453, I did not get the question - was it asked in english ? |
| 20:28.51 | supertux1453 | the problem is; is there a greek channel to speak to ? |
| 20:29.13 | Enverex | benJIman: No, they aren't, I checked |
| 20:29.16 | YggdrasilOS | supertux1453, do a /list in the network status window, and see what comes up |
| 20:29.30 | YggdrasilOS | there's probably at least a few greek channels on freenode |
| 20:29.35 | Enverex | benJIman: But my point was, how can they call it SVG and it not be SVG |
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| 20:31.32 | supertux1453 | ok something is going on |
| 20:31.41 | supertux1453 | thanks |
| 20:31.41 | YggdrasilOS | Enverex, simply put, they can call it whatever they want...truth in advertising has never been a requirement for sites such as KDE-look |
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| 20:33.03 | YggdrasilOS | the well-moderated sites such as customize.org are better about that...but that one is entirely too windows-oriented for our purposes |
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| 20:33.30 | YggdrasilOS | still, you can find some good wallpapers there, if nothing else |
| 20:34.47 | Enverex | Well it seems like no sites have SVG icons, heh |
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| 20:39.24 | Ash-Fox | It frightens me that most of KDE is operating just fine even though I just removed most of it and installed a new version, without ending my session |
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| 20:40.20 | thiago2 | why should stuff stop working when you remove it? :-) |
| 20:40.47 | pinotree | thiago2: O_O |
| 20:41.12 | Ash-Fox | .. It's missing it's libraries, executable etc. from the previous version, and nothing has crashed? |
| 20:41.29 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Ash-Fox, see the benefits of static linking |
| 20:41.40 | Ash-Fox | It's not statically linked |
| 20:41.53 | tstaerk|KDE4 | ok, then statically-dynamic: |
| 20:42.07 | tstaerk|KDE4 | it does not get unloaded at runtime |
| 20:42.58 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Ash-Fox, try to load an html site |
| 20:43.29 | tstaerk|KDE4 | at me, it says cannot talk to klauncher (that's not what I opened the bug about) |
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| 20:43.57 | thiago2 | files don't get really deleted until all references to it are closed |
| 20:44.05 | thiago2 | including running programs |
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| 20:44.14 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Ash-Fox, if you really want to make sure you installed into the right location, do a kde-config |
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| 20:44.55 | night | hello |
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| 20:45.09 | Ash-Fox | I'm pretty sure it's done correctly |
| 20:46.06 | tstaerk|KDE4 | at me (for example when compiling kde 4), problems first occur after restarting X |
| 20:46.15 | tstaerk|KDE4 | (I mean REAL problems) |
| 20:46.31 | Ash-Fox | I updated to KDE 3.5.1 from KDE 3.5.0 |
| 20:46.50 | night | <--Linux noob |
| 20:47.00 | night | what is this a help chat? |
| 20:47.01 | Ash-Fox | night, KDE isn't Linux. |
| 20:47.21 | YggdrasilOS | i'm running 3.5.2 here, and no major catastrophes so far |
| 20:47.24 | Ash-Fox | It can be considered the KDE help channel. |
| 20:47.25 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, about |
| 20:47.53 | YggdrasilOS | of course, it helps that i waited until the Gentoo-KDE herd devs added it to ~arch (official testing build) |
| 20:48.05 | YggdrasilOS | instead of trying to go with some hacked-up CVS build |
| 20:48.17 | Ash-Fox | I'm staying with what SeerOfSouls considers stable :) |
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| 20:48.31 | rodrigo | hi |
| 20:48.47 | night | im just wandering around every corner of this SUSe linux |
| 20:48.52 | Ash-Fox | Which in KDE terms, tends to be always one version behind KDE's stable. |
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| 20:49.05 | Ash-Fox | Night, for help on SuSE, #SuSE |
| 20:49.06 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, you can also /join #suse |
| 20:49.17 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Ash-Fox, we are in sync |
| 20:49.25 | Q-collective | or maybe #suse will help |
| 20:49.26 | night | i just opened Konversation |
| 20:49.35 | Sho_ | night: :-) |
| 20:49.39 | night | and it brought me here |
| 20:49.45 | YggdrasilOS | ah yes, Konvo tends to default to opening #kde |
| 20:49.49 | Sho_ | night: Yeah, it's what we have pre-configured ;) |
| 20:49.51 | night | : ) |
| 20:49.59 | Ash-Fox | It's for great justice |
| 20:50.00 | rodrigo | i do not attempt compile ktranslator |
| 20:50.03 | YggdrasilOS | i prefer Xchat, but i still have it set to come here automatically :D |
| 20:50.04 | night | we????? |
| 20:50.04 | Sho_ | night: Anything we can help you with? |
| 20:50.16 | Sho_ | night: I'm one of the developers of Konversation |
| 20:50.24 | Q-collective | Sho_++ |
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| 20:50.31 | night | well do you do drivers in here? |
| 20:50.33 | Sho_ | night: My computer beeps when someone mentions it, hence I reacted to you ;) |
| 20:50.40 | night | or that anohter channel as well? |
| 20:50.41 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, no. |
| 20:50.43 | YggdrasilOS | night, try going to #suse |
| 20:50.55 | night | how? |
| 20:50.59 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, maybe ask your question |
| 20:50.59 | YggdrasilOS | driver issues are best resolved with your own distro's help team |
| 20:51.06 | Ash-Fox | I should make a feature suggestion to konversation later. |
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| 20:51.19 | night | is this a paid help service? |
| 20:51.19 | YggdrasilOS | oh, type "/join #suse" without the quotes |
| 20:51.23 | wasynyt | night type /join #suse |
| 20:51.32 | Sho_ | Ash-Fox: If it's a longer thing please consider filing a wish list item over at bko |
| 20:51.39 | YggdrasilOS | we don't object to donations, but it's offered free of charge :D |
| 20:51.48 | night | okies : ) |
| 20:51.50 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, yes - you get 100 bucks on your phone bill for every minute you are here |
| 20:51.53 | Q-collective | hmm, I shouldn't (konversation) use that word (konversation)too much then, (konversation)else Sho_'s machine (konversation) will explode (konversation) |
| 20:51.53 | Ash-Fox | Sho_, 'longer thing' ? |
| 20:51.55 | YggdrasilOS | lol |
| 20:51.56 | Q-collective | :^) |
| 20:51.58 | night | so just type that in the chat? |
| 20:52.05 | night | and it will take me there? |
| 20:52.07 | wasynyt | yes |
| 20:52.08 | YggdrasilOS | yes |
| 20:52.14 | tiocsti | does anyone know roughly how far in the future kde4 is going to be, roughly? |
| 20:52.16 | YggdrasilOS | it'll open it in a new window, so you'll still be here, as well |
| 20:52.17 | night | okies : ) |
| 20:52.17 | Sho_ | Ash-Fox: If you need half a novel to describe your request, it's a "longer thing" ;) |
| 20:52.20 | night | have a good one |
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| 20:52.26 | Sho_ | night: bye! |
| 20:52.37 | Sho_ | Q-collective: bah :P |
| 20:52.37 | night | buh bye all |
| 20:52.57 | rodrigo | where can i find kde headers ? |
| 20:53.10 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, distro ? |
| 20:53.17 | rodrigo | mandriva |
| 20:53.18 | night | hello can i ask about drivers here? |
| 20:53.31 | YggdrasilOS | (;-_-) |
| 20:53.32 | Ash-Fox | Ah, no, not really. Just a request for a alternative channel/PM display which is similar to xchat/kvirc classic/mirc, where-by you see all the channels you're on (if you're on many), and don't have to scroll to check for activity etc. :P |
| 20:53.38 | tstaerk|KDE4 | night, see the other window ;) |
| 20:53.38 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: mandriva |
| 20:53.42 | YggdrasilOS | night: you're still talking to us in #kde |
| 20:53.51 | YggdrasilOS | switch to the other tab |
| 20:53.51 | night | opps lol |
| 20:53.57 | night | ok9ies bye : ) |
| 20:54.02 | night | : P |
| 20:54.15 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, start your software management tool |
| 20:54.44 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: and ... ? |
| 20:55.10 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, and install kde-devel |
| 20:55.25 | YggdrasilOS | one question: do either Konversation or KSIrc have scripts for DCC file-server operation? |
| 20:55.28 | Ash-Fox | BRB |
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| 20:55.49 | Sho_ | YggdrasilOS: I'm afraid not (Konvi) |
| 20:55.51 | YggdrasilOS | the only program I really haven't found a good Linux replacment for so far is mIRC |
| 20:56.02 | mhall | YggdrasilOS: what are the linux apps missing |
| 20:56.11 | YggdrasilOS | DCC fileserver support |
| 20:56.18 | mhall | YggdrasilOS: other than the security exploits of course |
| 20:56.24 | HamishTPB | lol |
| 20:56.26 | Jester | Is there a way to prohibit access to a wallet in the kde wallet manager, even if an application is accessing it ? or is there a way for it not to show the passwords the application uses ? |
| 20:56.28 | Sho_ | YggdrasilOS: yeah, Peace & Protection's fserve implementation is pretty spiffy |
| 20:56.32 | brandon_ | arn? |
| 20:56.39 | YggdrasilOS | mIRC hasn't got any exploits that aren't user-initiated, at this point |
| 20:56.42 | arn | yes |
| 20:56.45 | Sho_ | YggdrasilOS: We're not going to code something like that, but hopefully the scripting facilities needed for someone to develop it as an add-on |
| 20:56.50 | brandon_ | hold on a sec |
| 20:57.03 | YggdrasilOS | so as long as you avoid typing in those strings that start with //write $decode..., you're fine |
| 20:57.27 | YggdrasilOS | Sho_ yes, most of the fileserver stuff in mIRC was a collection of add-on scripts too |
| 20:57.40 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: i have Mandriva 2005 Limited Edition (i have just three cd) i think there are no kde-devel |
| 20:57.47 | YggdrasilOS | i was particularly fond of SysReset and UPP |
| 20:58.05 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, let's start at the beginning- what do you want to do ? |
| 20:58.08 | tiocsti | i know there's fileserv stuff in xchat |
| 20:58.25 | tiocsti | not builtin, of course, but some embedded perl stuff |
| 20:58.33 | brandon_ | ok, i activated it in wordpress after i made it a function, and i inserted it into a post, but it doesn't do anything. i looked at the page source, and it has the function call instead of a photo name |
| 20:58.46 | YggdrasilOS | i know Google Is My Friend, but with this, it's the friend that just spews out an endless stream of useless babble |
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| 20:58.57 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: thanks... i'd like to compile ktranslator, but when ./configure return this error |
| 20:59.09 | rodrigo | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 20:59.09 | rodrigo | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 20:59.09 | rodrigo | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 20:59.27 | HamishTPB | YggdrasilOS: if you are looking for ready made scripts (i.e. you don't want to make your own or customise any) then Xchat is your best bet as they have a large collection of scripts |
| 20:59.39 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, then you need to do exactly what I proposed. |
| 20:59.42 | arn | I'm not real familiar with word press brandon_ |
| 20:59.47 | YggdrasilOS | ah, cool...I'm even already using it :D |
| 20:59.52 | arn | does it use some sort of template engine? |
| 20:59.59 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, www.rpmfind.org gives you the needed packages. |
| 21:00.03 | YggdrasilOS | where would one start to look for such scripts (other than google)? |
| 21:00.06 | HamishTPB | YggdrasilOS: http://www.linuxirc.com/ is an excellent resource |
| 21:00.12 | YggdrasilOS | cool, thanks :D |
| 21:00.13 | HamishTPB | was just typing that up ^^ b;-) |
| 21:00.16 | HamishTPB | -b |
| 21:00.16 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: i'll search |
| 21:00.18 | HamishTPB | np |
| 21:00.22 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, rpmfind.net |
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| 21:00.32 | rodrigo | thinks |
| 21:00.37 | rodrigo | thanks |
| 21:00.38 | _Atomo64_ | hi guys |
| 21:01.01 | HamishTPB | lo _Atomo64_ |
| 21:01.06 | _Atomo64_ | :) |
| 21:01.26 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: rpmfind.net > No package found of name kde-devel |
| 21:01.30 | _Atomo64_ | lol... I just can't believe that I'm stuck trying to resize a partition... |
| 21:01.34 | YggdrasilOS | gah...my bookmarks folder is a mess... |
| 21:01.50 | YggdrasilOS | _Atomo64_: what kind of partition/ |
| 21:01.50 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, before I guess around ... /join #mandriva |
| 21:01.51 | YggdrasilOS | ? |
| 21:02.17 | brandon_ | well, in order to make it a function, i'd just wrap function "function name"() {} around it right? |
| 21:02.24 | tstaerk|KDE4 | rodrigo, because every distribution has different names for its devel packages. |
| 21:02.39 | tstaerk|KDE4 | that's part of the linux specification. |
| 21:02.46 | rodrigo | ok, thanks in all cases |
| 21:03.05 | arn | yes, brandon_, but I don't think that's the problem |
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| 21:03.21 | arn | you could do that in a file and just test it out if you think that's the issue |
| 21:03.22 | _Atomo64_ | YggdrasilOS: I'm trying to resize the /home partition ... to give some more free space to / ... (both ext3); but I can't do it from windows because PM8 says that there's a clock that is set to be used in the map, but it is actually not... and then ubuntu (live c d) and knoppix they both make use of the swap partition, wich is between both partitions (/ and /home) |
| 21:03.26 | brandon_ | well, it's clearly not running the script |
| 21:03.52 | brandon_ | but wordpress didn't have any problems with the code, or else it would have returned an error when i cativated it |
| 21:04.03 | brandon_ | *activated |
| 21:04.14 | arn | what does the source look like around where you insert it? |
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| 21:05.03 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: that's not a KDE problem. |
| 21:05.16 | YggdrasilOS | _Atomo64_, do me a favor, do fdisk -l /dev/hda (substitute hda for whatever hard disc you're working with), and pastebin the results |
| 21:05.20 | thiago2 | resize a partition = delete and recreate at the same cylinder |
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| 21:05.34 | brandon_ | it was inserted into a post. wordpress may be interpreting it wrong |
| 21:05.53 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: I know..... bt... btw, is Kpartition dead? |
| 21:06.05 | arn | a function call is in a post variable? |
| 21:06.07 | YggdrasilOS | thiago2, PartitonMagic lets you resize nondestructively |
| 21:06.20 | brandon_ | no, i mean a blog message |
| 21:06.35 | YggdrasilOS | it uses some deep magic to rewrite the partition table without destroying the partition contents |
| 21:06.37 | arn | have a url? |
| 21:06.48 | brandon_ | i'm running it from localhost |
| 21:07.11 | tstaerk|KDE4 | YggdrasilOS, are you kidding or do you have no idea about partitioning ? |
| 21:07.24 | brandon_ | wordpress will take quote marks, and change them to ". so maybe it's doing something like that here |
| 21:07.33 | YggdrasilOS | no, i'm telling you what it actually did when i used it to resize some NTFS partitions |
| 21:07.43 | _Atomo64_ | tstaerk|KDE4: it doesn't destroy anything... |
| 21:07.44 | brandon_ | i'll try using html symbols |
| 21:07.47 | thiago2 | YggdrasilOS: it's the same thing as deleting and recreating :-) |
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| 21:08.01 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: try qtparted |
| 21:08.12 | tstaerk|KDE4 | you just say start cylinder is the same, end cylinder differs - partitioning does not destroy any data itself. |
| 21:08.20 | arn | wordpress probably won't automatically just run php code into a blog post |
| 21:08.22 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: I would ... if I could resize the currently being used partitions :S |
| 21:08.29 | YggdrasilOS | if you want to be pedantic, i suppose so...i'm just pointing out what makes it different from a normal partition utility |
| 21:08.42 | arn | must be some sort of way to distinguish that the code has to be interpreted by the parser |
| 21:08.42 | tstaerk|KDE4 | ok, understood. |
| 21:08.53 | YggdrasilOS | i.e.: it doesn't lose all the info from the target partition |
| 21:09.14 | YggdrasilOS | it'll also do block relocation to make sure your data stays intact |
| 21:09.28 | arn | brandon_: but then again, like I said, I'm not real familiar with wordpress |
| 21:09.42 | YggdrasilOS | my only gripe is that they don't make a livecd version of it |
| 21:09.46 | Q-collective | wordpress is easy |
| 21:09.50 | brandon_ | i'll try running it in the sidebar, where it will run php code |
| 21:10.01 | YggdrasilOS | something like that should be OS-agnostic, IMO |
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| 21:11.19 | _Atomo64_ | YggdrasilOS: http://pastebin.ca/47826 |
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| 21:11.25 | main2 | hellow boys :+ |
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| 21:11.36 | HamishTPB | .o/ |
| 21:11.49 | Cold-1 | Hi, I have a encoding problem with KMail/KOrganizer. If I get an appointment message form Outlook in KMail that contains special characters, it is encoded as iso-8859-1 (which is correct). But if ei send the response message, it will be encoded as utf-8 (which is wring). Is there an option somewhere to set this right? |
| 21:12.08 | thiago2 | Cold-1: how is utf-8 wrong? |
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| 21:12.22 | thiago2 | UTF-8 can encode any character you type, so it's always correct/ |
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| 21:12.24 | Cold-1 | because it has to be iso-8859-1 aswell |
| 21:12.28 | thiago2 | why? |
| 21:12.39 | main2 | i just upgraded from 3.4 to 3.5.2 -> are there any cool things i can check? |
| 21:12.53 | Cold-1 | because the incoming message was encoded as iso-8859-1 |
| 21:13.03 | thiago2 | Cold-1: so? |
| 21:13.22 | thiago2 | Cold-1: when you send a message (not a reply), what encoding does it get? |
| 21:13.36 | Cold-1 | iso-8859-1 |
| 21:13.39 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: you want to merge hdb2 and hdb6? |
| 21:13.43 | Q-collective | utf-8++ |
| 21:13.53 | thiago2 | Cold-1: if you reply, not it isn't an appointment, what encoding does it get> |
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| 21:14.08 | Cold-1 | iso-8859-1 too |
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| 21:14.30 | arn | any luck brandon_ ? |
| 21:14.35 | brandon_ | k arn, now i'm getting en error message: failed to open dir: not implemented |
| 21:14.46 | Cold-1 | it's only with calendar/text type, I get this error |
| 21:14.49 | brandon_ | the url is totally valid |
| 21:14.52 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: no, I want to give some free space from /hdb6 to /hdb1 |
| 21:15.11 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: without a partition editor like qtparted, it will be very difficult |
| 21:15.25 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: you have to move move all partitions |
| 21:15.55 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: I already did this... but using PM8 ... but it now gives me that st* msg |
| 21:16.03 | thiago2 | Cold-1: take a look at the message you sent (sent-mail folders). View it's source (V). Is it encoded in 8bit or Quoted-Printable? |
| 21:16.10 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: they proposed me to install synce-kde-devel |
| 21:16.13 | rodrigo | ? |
| 21:16.13 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: I couldn't care less about PM8 |
| 21:16.24 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: my only recommendation is to use qtparted now |
| 21:16.37 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: and to use LVM in ALL your future installations |
| 21:17.01 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: how do you want me to use qtparted if both partitions are actually being used? |
| 21:17.11 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: LVM? |
| 21:17.14 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: from a LiveCD |
| 21:17.16 | rodrigo | tstaerk|KDE4: you are here ? |
| 21:17.20 | thiago2 | yes, LVM. I'll let you Google for it. |
| 21:17.20 | arn | and it's a full path, not a relative path brandon_ ? |
| 21:17.29 | brandon_ | full path |
| 21:17.39 | Cold-1 | thiago: quoted-printable |
| 21:17.42 | brandon_ | well, it's aurl |
| 21:17.45 | brandon_ | url |
| 21:17.52 | brandon_ | i assume urls are valid? |
| 21:17.59 | arn | no, should be a full filesystem path |
| 21:18.08 | arn | this on a *nix box? |
| 21:18.08 | thiago2 | Cold-1: do you see any non-ASCII character? (anything with =XX in it) |
| 21:18.15 | brandon_ | yes |
| 21:18.34 | arn | should be something like /var/www/htdocs/images |
| 21:18.50 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: but the livecds make use of the swap partition :S |
| 21:18.52 | brandon_ | getting the full path ont eh webserver is going to be difficult |
| 21:18.53 | arn | something you could put into a cd and it would take you there |
| 21:19.09 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: no they don't. |
| 21:19.13 | thiago2 | _Atomo64_: if they do, swapoff |
| 21:19.19 | arn | are you just looking in the doc_root of the webserver? |
| 21:19.22 | brandon_ | actually, it would still be /var/www |
| 21:19.36 | brandon_ | because the webserver is running apache as well |
| 21:19.51 | brandon_ | alright, let me change this around a bit |
| 21:19.57 | _Atomo64_ | thiago2: lol... you saved me some time... YggdrasilOS just told me to do that... (but I had to check the param in the knoppix-cheatcodes file) |
| 21:20.10 | arn | you could use $_SERVER['DOC_ROOT'] instead of the path |
| 21:20.18 | Cold-1 | thiago: nope |
| 21:20.34 | arn | $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] I think it is actually |
| 21:20.39 | thiago2 | Cold-1: where do you see "utf-8" being specified> |
| 21:20.46 | arn | then you could append a path after that, brandon_ |
| 21:21.09 | brandon_ | after the ending single quote, right? not after the end square brace? |
| 21:21.11 | Cold-1 | Content-Type: text/calendar; method=reply; charset="utf-8" |
| 21:21.21 | arn | opendir($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . '/images/' ) |
| 21:21.28 | brandon_ | i see |
| 21:21.39 | thiago2 | Cold-1: that's the only place? |
| 21:22.02 | Cold-1 | Subject: Antwort: Aktualisiert: Test =?utf-8?b?ZsODwrxyIFVtbGF1dGU=?= =?utf-8?b?... |
| 21:23.08 | Cold-1 | that's all places |
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| 21:23.18 | thiago2 | Cold-1: that's doubly encoded UTF-8 |
| 21:23.31 | thiago2 | did the message you receive contain a badly encoded subject? |
| 21:23.42 | Cold-1 | nope |
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| 21:24.13 | thiago2 | ok, then there is a bug in the Subject |
| 21:24.20 | thiago2 | but I see no problems with the message's body |
| 21:25.24 | Cold-1 | ok, then I will file a bug report |
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| 21:25.51 | Cold-1 | tnx |
| 21:26.21 | arn | don't mean to rush you, brandon_, but i have to get going here soon |
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| 21:27.05 | brandon_ | i'm sure it will be fine. i don't have the local directory here, so i'm trying to build it. i'm sure it will work once i get the path right |
| 21:27.14 | brandon_ | thank you for the help |
| 21:27.21 | arn | np |
| 21:27.32 | arn | I should be on again later if you need more help |
| 21:27.42 | arn | good luck |
| 21:28.23 | brandon_ | ok, thanks |
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| 21:31.01 | rodrigo | someone knows the name of kde headers package in mandriva |
| 21:32.38 | illogical | rodrigo: probably libkdecore4-devel |
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| 21:42.14 | rodrigo | illogic-al: i am trying to compile ktranslator but ./configure return this error : |
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| 21:42.28 | rodrigo | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 21:42.29 | rodrigo | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 21:42.29 | rodrigo | So, check this please and use another prefix |
| 21:42.44 | thiago2 | rodrigo: what steps have you taken to fix that error? |
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| 21:43.12 | rodrigo | i didn't anything |
| 21:43.17 | thiago2 | then do something first |
| 21:43.20 | thiago2 | then ask for help |
| 21:43.38 | TeaSea | gah brb |
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| 21:44.36 | rodrigo | i am really have no much time ..... |
| 21:44.49 | thiago2 | nor do I |
| 21:45.04 | thiago2 | since I don't want to waste my time, I'd like you to try the easy solutions first (Google, etc.) |
| 21:45.22 | rodrigo | no one tell you to answer to my questions !!!! |
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| 21:45.49 | rodrigo | finally, i tried google |
| 21:46.21 | thiago2 | in the prefix you chose, were there KDE headers? |
| 21:46.42 | rodrigo | i think that i have no kde headers installed !! |
| 21:46.48 | rodrigo | i am just beginner in linux |
| 21:46.59 | thiago2 | you need the headers |
| 21:47.28 | rodrigo | i searched the headers in my installation cds |
| 21:47.35 | rodrigo | i have mandriva 2005 limited edition |
| 21:47.43 | pinotree | rodrigo: have you askied in your distro channel? |
| 21:47.44 | thiago2 | libkdecore4-devel |
| 21:47.47 | pinotree | asked* |
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| 21:48.11 | rodrigo | i am goind to ask now !! |
| 21:48.25 | positivo | asasdasdsdas |
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| 21:49.25 | pinotree | positivo: ?? |
| 21:49.32 | positivo | oi |
| 21:49.59 | positivo | oi pinotree |
| 21:50.11 | thiago2 | positivo: English here, please |
| 21:50.22 | positivo | yes |
| 21:50.24 | positivo | hi? |
| 21:50.30 | pinotree | yo |
| 21:50.42 | positivo | im good |
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| 22:04.43 | i-nZ | i need a little bit help with KImageMapEditor |
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| 22:18.05 | brandon_ | should i need to be root to run apache? |
| 22:18.41 | thiago2 | no |
| 22:18.45 | thiago2 | it's not necessary |
| 22:18.49 | thiago2 | and it's not a KDE issue |
| 22:19.00 | PhilRod | ask in #apache |
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| 22:20.50 | PhilRod | 1000? yowch |
| 22:21.21 | PhilRod | reading bugs.kde.org is weird, annoying, but somewhat compelling |
| 22:22.37 | thiago2 | I hadn't read in days |
| 22:22.45 | thiago2 | so they accumulated, accumulated... |
| 22:22.51 | thiago2 | I'm only halfway through |
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| 22:48.38 | giles | what are the chances of running a full kde on QT/Embedded? |
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| 22:48.58 | richmoore | giles: 0 |
| 22:49.15 | giles | richmoore: thats a shame ;) |
| 22:49.45 | richmoore | giles: kde needs lots of stuff qt embedded doesn't provide - they're designed for different things |
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| 22:50.08 | giles | I guess linuxdevices people are using a minix |
| 22:50.10 | giles | no |
| 22:50.15 | giles | I mean mini X |
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| 22:50.41 | richmoore | giles: probably |
| 22:51.46 | thiago2 | there is Konq/e, which is designed to run with Qt/e 2.x |
| 22:52.02 | thiago2 | but if you're looking into developing embedded applications, I recommend Qtopia Core |
| 22:52.47 | giles | ok thanks |
| 22:55.41 | richmoore | thiago2: btw how does TT want API errors reported? (ie. places where Qt doesn't follow its own guidelines) |
| 22:56.20 | thiago2 | richmoore: sorry? |
| 22:56.49 | thiago2 | what do you mean> |
| 22:57.05 | richmoore | thiago2: i've been looking over the graphics APIs and in lots of places (eg. all the gradient classes) they rely on passing lots of numbers to the constructors |
| 22:57.31 | richmoore | thiago2: according to the api guidelines these should be done via setXX methods which are not provided |
| 22:58.04 | thiago2 | richmoore: qt-bugs@ |
| 22:58.09 | richmoore | thiago2: ok |
| 22:58.18 | _pagalmes | good night |
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| 22:59.06 | bulio | anyone know what wallpaper this is? |
| 22:59.09 | bulio | http://audacious-media-player.org/Image:Snapshot19.png |
| 22:59.20 | CyberSpy_LT | Is anyone else here using KDE (more specifically amaroK) with Fedora Core 5? |
| 22:59.49 | bulio | also, how can I change my KDE start icon? |
| 23:00.01 | thiago2 | bulio: the K menu, you mean? |
| 23:00.08 | bulio | yeah |
| 23:00.16 | thiago2 | change the file called "kmenu.png" |
| 23:00.19 | bulio | and the desktop action button |
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| 23:00.28 | bulio | thiago2: in what dir? |
| 23:00.39 | thiago2 | the "Desktop Access" button, you mean? That I don't remember the name. |
| 23:00.48 | thiago2 | bulio: type this: locate kmenu.png |
| 23:00.56 | thiago2 | use your distribution's file indexing mechanism |
| 23:01.14 | thiago2 | there mustn't be many files called "kmenu.png" in your disk |
| 23:01.30 | bulio | /home/bulio/.kde/share/icons/SNOWE-Rade8-3.1/128x128/apps/kmenu.png |
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| 23:02.00 | thiago2 | that looks like a theme file |
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| 23:04.23 | richmoore | thiago2: reported |
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| 23:08.16 | FrostByte | any idea why I would get a Malformed URL error when trying to run Metabar in Konq KDE 3.5.2? |
| 23:08.29 | FrostByte | or better, yet, how can I fix it? |
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| 23:12.03 | tufkar | Can anyone tell me the name of the widget used in amarok for the buttons on the left, the ones for the playlist and context button etc |
| 23:12.27 | HuntsMan | KJanusWidget i think |
| 23:12.35 | pinotree | no |
| 23:12.54 | pinotree | it's a widget developed in amarok sources |
| 23:13.03 | HuntsMan | ah nice |
| 23:13.14 | pinotree | something more like a tabbar |
| 23:14.19 | tufkar | the same kind of thing is used in konqueror though, right? |
| 23:14.27 | tufkar | for the history bar etc |
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| 23:30.47 | Hagfish | how do you turn off per-partition Trash directories (in KDE 3.5, Debian)? |
| 23:35.30 | thiago2 | you don't |
| 23:35.36 | thiago2 | they are always per-partition, if possible |
| 23:35.54 | thiago2 | what you can do is make them not possible, but making the root of the partition non-writable to the user |
| 23:36.05 | Hagfish | clever |
| 23:36.06 | thiago2 | but that will mean that any trashing is a *move* operation |
| 23:36.15 | Hagfish | yeah, i'm prepared for that |
| 23:36.47 | Hagfish | when i follow the trash can link, am i seeing a combination of all trash cans? |
| 23:37.00 | thiago2 | yes |
| 23:37.07 | Hagfish | well, that's clever at least |
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| 23:37.46 | Hagfish | so when it finds it can't write to the partition root, it will use the user's home directory? |
| 23:39.07 | thiago2 | yes |
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| 23:39.20 | thiago2 | you'll notice that, because trashing will take considerably longer |
| 23:39.42 | Hagfish | i don't mind waiting |
| 23:39.54 | Hagfish | i do mind lots of hidden directories being created |
| 23:40.05 | Hagfish | it's the default for removable drives too, right? |
| 23:40.35 | mhall | Into what directory should I copy a KDE icon theme to make it accessible? |
| 23:40.42 | thiago2 | yes |
| 23:40.47 | thiago2 | mhall: hmm? |
| 23:40.50 | luksan | Oooh... Vista is going to have going to have interfaces specified in XML |
| 23:41.03 | luksan | Qt/Glade have only been doing that for > 5 years |
| 23:41.12 | thiago2 | luksan: don't bet on it |
| 23:41.20 | luksan | thiago2: yeah really |
| 23:41.36 | mhall | thiago2: I've got a custom icon theme, a different one from the default Crystal SVG. Into which system directory must it be copied to be visible from kcontrol? /usr/share/icons ? |
| 23:41.39 | thiago2 | Vista has lots of annoying eye-candy... |
| 23:41.53 | thiago2 | mhall: yes |
| 23:42.03 | luksan | thiago2: that's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black |
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| 23:42.10 | mhall | luksan: XML interfaces are not necessarily a panacea. They can be quite slow, as in Mozilla. |
| 23:42.42 | luksan | mhall: that's because in Mozilla they are read on the fly rather than compiled into native code |
| 23:42.53 | mhall | luksan: The classic joke is: One day I had a programming problem. So I said, "Yay! I'll solve it using XML!" Then, I had two problems. |
| 23:43.24 | Hagfish | "When do I need to use XML?" "When you want a buzzword to put on your resume." |
| 23:43.38 | luksan | mhall: XML is just an intermediary. the user interface is designed with a RAD tool, it is saved as XML, and the XML is then transformed into code |
| 23:43.54 | mhall | luksan: That seems like a good way to do it. |
| 23:44.22 | Hagfish | i liked the sound of the kaXUL project, which would turn cross-toolkit XML into desktop specific stuff |
| 23:44.36 | mhall | luksan: RAD tools are very helpful for that sort of stuff, and if it's somehow transformed to bytecode or something reasonable, I could live with that. Not that I need to, because there's no chance of me buying any copies of Vista. |
| 23:45.18 | luksan | mhall: and if you decide to use XSLT, then you'll have 17 problems |
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| 23:46.43 | mhall | Is it possible to convince Konq to have a transparent background in its file browser? |
| 23:47.06 | mhall | luksan: Lest we forget there is also XPath and XQuery... >:-) |
| 23:47.46 | mhall | Also, how can I more permanently disable the annoying left-hand sidebar. I am always pressing F9 to make it go away. |
| 23:48.15 | thiago2 | KDE takes Designer's XML files one step further and loads them on-the-fly |
| 23:48.26 | thiago2 | that's how the menubars are merged in KParts |
| 23:48.55 | luksan | thiago2: true |
| 23:49.07 | mhall | Depending on what you do with it, XML's not much different from other kinds of config files. It's just, people are not always responsible and often allow bloat to propagate. |
| 23:49.13 | illogical | mhall: get rid of the sidebar and then save that profile. |
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| 23:49.19 | Hagfish | thiago2: so apart from changing (the directory structure and) the permissions of the root directories of all my partitions and removable drives, i can't get KDE to not create trash cans everywhere? |
| 23:49.22 | mhall | illogical: ah, sweet |
| 23:49.43 | mhall | illogical: that was just too easy; about three clicks |
| 23:49.53 | illogical | :-) |
| 23:50.13 | mhall | You can do damn near everything in KDE if you put your mind to it. |
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| 23:50.23 | illogical | I was hoping they'd at least have the amaroK 2.0 release as a story. |
| 23:50.29 | luksan | somebody should post something about Trolltech patenting the XML reprentation of GUIs |
| 23:51.09 | mhall | Which KDE apps allow one to make Gantt charts easily? I saw there was a KDE PIM library for this but I wasn't sure how to access its functionalities. |
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| 23:54.12 | illogical | kgantt? |
| 23:54.15 | illogical | kdgantt |
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