| 00:02.28 | *** join/#kde risto (n=risto@87.78.99.174) |
| 00:07.56 | illogic-al | feld: you can turn NUMLOCK off which I believe might generate different keypress events. |
| 00:08.19 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 00:08.36 | feld | im not sure if its kde or modular xorg acting up |
| 00:08.39 | feld | hehe |
| 00:08.43 | feld | i'll do more investigatig now |
| 00:08.46 | illogic-al | acting up how? |
| 00:08.48 | feld | *investigating |
| 00:08.56 | feld | numpad does not work at all in kde |
| 00:09.00 | feld | it produces other events |
| 00:09.05 | *** part/#kde risto (n=risto@87.78.99.174) |
| 00:09.08 | feld | one is my mouse right click lol |
| 00:09.23 | *** join/#kde zcat (n=zcat@cpe-72-227-140-251.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:09.33 | illogic-al | fek: ah. you might have turned on mouse keys. |
| 00:10.41 | illogic-al | feld: go to KControl -> Peripherals -> MOuse |
| 00:11.07 | illogic-al | and on the "Mouse Navigation" tab i |
| 00:11.27 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 00:12.13 | feld | nice |
| 00:12.17 | feld | it overtook my numpad |
| 00:12.22 | feld | i thought u could toggle it on and off |
| 00:12.25 | feld | i had to use it the other day |
| 00:12.31 | zcat | hi all - anybody know why KDE will only intermittently set my correct keyboard layout? It's the MSNatural USB Pro OEM. I've put the Keyboard Layout tool in the tray, and when I right-click to active my layout it only works, randomly, about 33% of the time. |
| 00:12.33 | feld | but i guess it screws up the numpad. how stupid. |
| 00:12.40 | feld | thx illogic-al |
| 00:12.42 | *** part/#kde feld (n=feld@66-190-57-123.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 00:12.58 | zcat | I verify by trying to tell amarok to show the OSD (Win+O) |
| 00:13.04 | illogic-al | it does what you wanted it to and it's stupid. |
| 00:14.16 | zcat | this might just be a FC5 bug, since I've never had this problem any other time. |
| 00:14.19 | *** join/#kde taupter (n=Taupter@200164241236.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 00:15.20 | illogic-al | zcat: when you say works intermittently you mean sometimes your keys work, and somethimes they dont? |
| 00:16.24 | zcat | illogic-al, right. but only the "Win" keys; the media keys uptop still work. |
| 00:18.11 | illogic-al | zcat: so the only key that doesn't work is the Win key. Sometimes. |
| 00:18.32 | zcat | illogic-al, yeah, it's almost... illogical |
| 00:18.51 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@c-71-194-191-92.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 00:20.14 | illogic-al | zcat: sounds like a FC5 problem. the winkey shouldn't depend on your keyboard layout as all us keyboards have it. |
| 00:20.59 | *** part/#kde casey (n=cshobe@hosts.postgresql.at.seattleserver.com) |
| 00:25.01 | *** join/#kde straw (n=strawman@stjhnbsu84w-156034188340.nb.aliant.net) |
| 00:25.12 | *** join/#kde GNU_Style (n=gfx@203.177.243.206) |
| 00:25.17 | *** join/#kde varicello (n=italo@201.12.17.88) |
| 00:29.28 | *** join/#kde luksan (n=luke@ip-152010163088.student.appstate.edu) |
| 00:29.53 | *** part/#kde _david (n=david@vpnb165.ugent.be) |
| 00:35.05 | luksan | why does kompmgr refuse to work while xcompmgr work? |
| 00:36.15 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:36.20 | *** join/#kde nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:45.53 | Q-collective | luksan: you can only run one composite manager at a time |
| 00:48.16 | luksan | Q-collective: i'm not trying to run them at the same time |
| 00:48.31 | Q-collective | ah |
| 00:48.33 | luksan | Q-collective: i'm just saying that IF i run xcompmgr, it works |
| 00:54.21 | *** join/#kde manveru_ (n=manveru@aa2005021496003.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) |
| 00:56.57 | *** join/#kde wampus (n=thad@68.62.203.117) |
| 00:57.03 | *** join/#kde Desuke_Ido (n=Desuke@ACCF1EC6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:04.12 | *** join/#kde tanghus (n=tol@0x50c79ce7.boanxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 01:08.06 | fl | how do i get mp3 t work? |
| 01:11.02 | manveru | fl: you just have to stare at them until they give up and go back to work |
| 01:11.26 | *** join/#kde keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:11.39 | fl | --. |
| 01:11.41 | fl | -.- |
| 01:11.51 | manveru | fl: but seriously, a little bit more information would be nice to help you |
| 01:12.04 | manveru | what distribution do you have? |
| 01:12.35 | fl | i was some time before i wrote this :) sorry suse 10and kde 3.4 |
| 01:13.34 | manveru | then, most likely the almighty YaST will help you |
| 01:13.56 | fl | ~_~ |
| 01:13.57 | apt | it has been said that _~ is sour face |
| 01:14.10 | manveru | :) |
| 01:14.37 | manveru | well, i could help you more, but i don't know what your problem is |
| 01:15.12 | manveru | for example what you have tried so far, what your soundcard is, and if you have your boxes plugged in... stuff like that |
| 01:15.50 | *** join/#kde HamishTPB (n=hamishtp@bb-87-80-43-35.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 01:16.01 | *** part/#kde mhall (n=mhall@uop-9-97.pacific.edu) |
| 01:16.05 | fl | yeah ur right :) sorry hmm just hard 2 explain cause i'm just testing something |
| 01:17.02 | manveru | well, just highlight me when you've got more time |
| 01:17.39 | fl | so i whant to test if my sound works (ac97 sound blaster pro) with an mp3 i wantetd to start but none of the players installed seems realy to play an mp3 |
| 01:19.16 | manveru | ac97 or sound blaster pro? |
| 01:20.24 | *** join/#kde shiznix_ (i=legends@ppp152-23.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 01:20.40 | *** join/#kde nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:20.51 | fl | i'm not sure a discription i found saying: AC'97, Sound Blaster Pro |
| 01:22.07 | *** join/#kde Barbelos (n=Barbelos@10.80-203-68.nextgentel.com) |
| 01:22.54 | *** join/#kde gresco (n=gresco@201.248.22.243) |
| 01:25.27 | fl | ok brb hav 2 restart |
| 01:26.40 | *** join/#kde pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-90.maa.sify.net) |
| 01:30.29 | *** join/#kde gfx (n=gfx@203.177.202.226) |
| 01:30.40 | *** join/#kde fl (n=fl@p54993165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:30.50 | fl | ok back still tehre? |
| 01:30.53 | fl | there -.- |
| 01:31.23 | Q-collective | in xfce xchat displayed nicks that were /away in a grey manner, I noticed that this isn't the case in kde, neither in xchat or in konversation |
| 01:31.31 | Q-collective | any way to get that working? |
| 01:33.23 | manveru | fl: yeah |
| 01:33.33 | fl | manveru still there ? :) so mainly i want my soundcard to work but i'm not sure how... and probably italready doas but i didn't tested it so i tough about mp3 |
| 01:34.12 | manveru | well, afaik does mp3 not work out-of-the-box with suse because of some lincence-issue... right? |
| 01:34.48 | manveru | Q-collective: they are grey - at least for me... check your color-settings |
| 01:35.07 | Q-collective | manveru: I haven't changed my colors |
| 01:35.22 | Q-collective | only thing that changed was the environment ;) |
| 01:35.39 | manveru | and how is x-chat related to konversation? |
| 01:36.15 | manveru | one is GTK, the other one is QT |
| 01:36.17 | fl | manveru license issue ... thats what i heard but i dont know what to install to get them to run |
| 01:36.51 | manveru | fl: there sure are mailinglists/forums/channels for suse |
| 01:36.54 | Q-collective | manveru: very observant |
| 01:37.05 | Q-collective | they display the same behaviour though |
| 01:37.22 | manveru | Q-collective: i do think kde has influence on konversation, but not on x-chat |
| 01:37.28 | fl | so the lecense problem is non kde but suse related? |
| 01:37.37 | Q-collective | manveru: btw, konversation has nothing to do with QT |
| 01:37.38 | manveru | fl: exactly |
| 01:37.43 | Q-collective | it has with Qt though |
| 01:38.13 | fl | manveru ah ok i'll see how i can find out more ... :/ |
| 01:39.09 | manveru | Q-collective: that is new to me :) |
| 01:39.42 | Q-collective | manveru: QT == QuickTime ;) |
| 01:40.18 | manveru | ... |
| 01:40.43 | Q-collective | hey, I didn't make it up |
| 01:40.58 | manveru | www.trolltech.com |
| 01:41.34 | Q-collective | yes, I know Qt |
| 01:41.41 | manveru | -.- |
| 01:41.51 | Q-collective | manveru: note the use of capitals |
| 01:41.54 | Q-collective | QT vs Qt |
| 01:41.59 | Q-collective | sigh |
| 01:42.03 | manveru | you are very (case)sensitive :) |
| 01:42.10 | Q-collective | thank you |
| 01:42.35 | manveru | i keep on forgetting about that quicktime-stuff |
| 01:42.54 | manveru | not using it anyway |
| 01:43.12 | *** join/#kde no_gatez_fan (n=patrick@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 01:43.27 | Q-collective | yeah, same, but hey, it's nice to keep a difference for the outside world |
| 01:43.36 | Q-collective | anyway :) |
| 01:44.29 | Q-collective | hmm, I'm heading off |
| 01:44.43 | Q-collective | I need to write a report tomorrow :( |
| 01:44.49 | Q-collective | oh well, night |
| 01:45.08 | Sho_ | manveru: Konversation is a KDE application :) |
| 01:45.40 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Konversation greys out users who are away in the nick list |
| 01:45.52 | Q-collective | it does? hmm |
| 01:45.57 | Q-collective | let me check that again |
| 01:46.01 | manveru | Sho_: it works in e17 too :) |
| 01:46.28 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=Q-collec@cp336226-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl) |
| 01:47.02 | Q-collective | great, haven't installed it |
| 01:47.14 | Q-collective | :^) |
| 01:47.31 | Sho_ | A PC without Konversation? Impossible! :) |
| 01:47.43 | StevenR | Sho_: they don't really exist |
| 01:47.47 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Make sure you get 0.19 from ~arch |
| 01:47.58 | *** join/#kde _Atomo64_ (n=A64@200.77.117.81) |
| 01:48.32 | Q-collective | Sho_: kk :) |
| 01:48.49 | _Atomo64_ | hi... does anybody knows about a KDE app that shows information from S.M.A.R.T. ... like smartmontools ... but with GUI¡ |
| 01:48.50 | Sho_ | Q-collective: 0.18 greys out too, but 0.19 is a lot nicer ;-) |
| 01:48.50 | _Atomo64_ | *? |
| 01:50.52 | Q-collective | btw, if I would switch to konversation, that would make gaim one of the last remaining gtk+ apps I would use. |
| 01:51.07 | Q-collective | so, any way to make kopete look *nice*? :-) |
| 01:51.48 | DylanB | use a less ugly theme |
| 01:51.49 | Q-collective | it's not the theming |
| 01:51.49 | Q-collective | the UI of kopete is just fubar |
| 01:51.49 | *** join/#kde Parkotron (n=parker@fctnnbsc16w-156034209217.nb.aliant.net) |
| 01:51.49 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Don't tell me you think Gaim looks any nicer ;) |
| 01:51.56 | Sho_ | That gotta be one of the most cludgy UIs ever |
| 01:51.57 | DylanB | oh, thenm that's your problem, not Kopete's ;) |
| 01:51.58 | Q-collective | Sho_: not by a lot, but still |
| 01:51.59 | Q-collective | :p |
| 01:52.00 | Sho_ | Beating X-Chat even |
| 01:52.14 | Q-collective | lol |
| 01:52.29 | DylanB | I think kopete and x-chat are fine |
| 01:52.30 | Q-collective | konversation is about a complete copy of the xchat UI |
| 01:52.32 | Q-collective | ahum :p |
| 01:52.40 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Actually, no |
| 01:52.44 | mobtek | haha hardly |
| 01:52.44 | _Atomo64_ | Sho: I prefer Gaim's GUI than Kopetes one... |
| 01:52.47 | Sho_ | Q-collective: And by the way, X-Chat is a complete copy of the AmIRC UI |
| 01:52.59 | Q-collective | what's that? |
| 01:53.01 | Q-collective | :) |
| 01:53.09 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Last time I tried Gaim I couldn't even see my connection status without adding myself to my buddy list |
| 01:53.38 | _Atomo64_ | Sho: what version was it? |
| 01:53.45 | _Atomo64_ | *it was |
| 01:53.47 | Sho_ | Q-collective: http://www.vapor.com/screens/amirc_2.gif |
| 01:54.05 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: 1.4.x IIRC |
| 01:54.12 | Q-collective | oh my |
| 01:54.31 | _Atomo64_ | Sho... lol, you should better try Gaim 2 |
| 01:54.43 | *** join/#kde observer8 (n=observer@202.169.225.194) |
| 01:54.50 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: If I'm not mistaken, Gaim 2 is (a) rather new, (b) still in beta |
| 01:54.55 | Q-collective | gaim 2 beta isn't that impressive |
| 01:55.12 | _Atomo64_ | but it is better... |
| 01:55.16 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: So you're telling me Gaim now has a beta version that matches the core functionality Kopete has had for about three years? Good for them |
| 01:55.34 | _Atomo64_ | but ok... a GTK app is ugly by definition |
| 01:55.49 | Q-collective | not by definition |
| 01:55.54 | Q-collective | depends on the theme |
| 01:55.54 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 01:55.57 | Sho_ | (Not that I'm entirely happy with Kopete either) |
| 01:56.05 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: err... something like that |
| 01:56.06 | Sho_ | (Nor with Konversation, for that matter :) |
| 01:56.16 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 01:56.23 | DylanB | you guys are picky :P |
| 01:56.26 | _Atomo64_ | Q-collective: any GTK theme is ugly :S |
| 01:56.30 | joscha | yes but firefox lacks kde-integration |
| 01:56.38 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Anyway, I think the amirc shot illustrates nicely what X-Chat was inspired by ;) |
| 01:57.15 | _Atomo64_ | joscha: what do you mean with 'kde-integration'? what do you want to do? replace KHTML with firefox one? |
| 01:57.31 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Using KDE file dialogs would be a start |
| 01:57.43 | joscha | i prefer firefox, but i hate these ugly gtk dialogs |
| 01:58.01 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: ah... that meaning for 'integration' |
| 01:58.10 | _Atomo64_ | joscha: I prefer Opera :P |
| 01:58.27 | _Atomo64_ | I can use a skin that matches the one I'm using with KDE |
| 01:58.29 | _Atomo64_ | :P |
| 01:58.36 | Q-collective | _Atomo64_: http://q-collective.org/screenshots/xfce-20051007.png |
| 01:58.40 | _Atomo64_ | btw... there's any KDE-ed app like gkrellm ? |
| 01:58.43 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: There is a Plastik theme for Firefox, too |
| 01:58.43 | Q-collective | is that really so bad? |
| 01:58.46 | *** join/#kde |main| (n=sirc@toronto-HSE-ppp4038362.sympatico.ca) |
| 01:58.53 | |main| | hi.. |
| 01:59.01 | |main| | how do you set icons for search engines in konq? |
| 01:59.27 | Q-collective | Sho_: there is?! :D |
| 01:59.37 | _Atomo64_ | Q-collective: what about that? |
| 01:59.38 | Sho_ | Q-collective: By the way, look around in the X-Chat about dialog |
| 01:59.45 | Sho_ | Q-collective: I believe they acknowledge amirc somewhere |
| 01:59.52 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: ok... but you got what I meant... didn't you? |
| 01:59.54 | Q-collective | k :) |
| 01:59.59 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Sure |
| 02:00.17 | _Atomo64_ | :) |
| 02:00.31 | Sho_ | Q-collective: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11442 |
| 02:00.48 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: do you know any KDE-ed SMART monitorting tool? |
| 02:01.02 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: I'm afraid not ... I use smartctl on the command prompt :( |
| 02:01.34 | _Atomo64_ | smartctl? |
| 02:01.51 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: smartmontools' main executable |
| 02:01.58 | _Atomo64_ | ah |
| 02:02.03 | *** join/#kde gresco_ (n=gresco@201.248.22.243) |
| 02:02.09 | _Atomo64_ | lol... I just downloaded hddtemp... |
| 02:02.09 | Q-collective | brb |
| 02:02.18 | _Atomo64_ | and will see how gkrellm llooks |
| 02:02.28 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=q@cp336226-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl) |
| 02:02.40 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Well, sensors you can query with various superkaramba themes and ksysguard |
| 02:02.53 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: S.M.A.R.T. is mostly for self-testing and error logging and such |
| 02:03.18 | _Atomo64_ | what I want to know is the HDD temp... |
| 02:03.21 | _Atomo64_ | only that |
| 02:03.28 | Q-collective | in konversation now ;) |
| 02:03.36 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Look at the SuperKaramba section on www.kde-apps.org |
| 02:03.53 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 02:03.56 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Loads and loads of easily installable system monitoring widgets for KDE 3.5 |
| 02:04.12 | Q-collective | if I do /away, I get "you're not away" |
| 02:04.14 | Q-collective | wtf? |
| 02:04.32 | DylanB | heh |
| 02:04.32 | DylanB | it knows.. |
| 02:04.37 | Sho_ | Q-collective: /away <reason> |
| 02:04.48 | joscha | ksim can handle lm_sensors as well i think |
| 02:04.50 | _Atomo64_ | DylanB: err, no... it is a server msg |
| 02:05.00 | Q-collective | Sho_: gah :) |
| 02:05.03 | DylanB | oh, fine, ruin my fun |
| 02:05.23 | _Atomo64_ | Q-collective: /away removes the away status/message /away <msg> adds the mode and the msg |
| 02:05.42 | _Atomo64_ | hehe... i remember everything from the IRC protocol after writing a client... |
| 02:06.00 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: btw... what dist do you use? |
| 02:06.08 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: What does numerical 290 do on Dancer ircd? *tests Atomo* |
| 02:06.16 | Sho_ | :) |
| 02:06.27 | _Atomo64_ | eh? |
| 02:06.33 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Gentoo Linux on my primary boxen, Kubuntu on my PPC laptop, Debian on my webserver |
| 02:06.38 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: IRC protocol :) |
| 02:06.55 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 02:06.56 | _Atomo64_ | lol... I use Debian as my life :P |
| 02:07.04 | Q-collective | nn all :) |
| 02:07.05 | _Atomo64_ | ah... oh don't ask me about that... |
| 02:07.05 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Ain't fun unless you know the obscure numericals that are incompatibly implemented in various ircds ;) |
| 02:07.23 | Sho_ | writing IRC clients surely isn't fun sometimes |
| 02:07.27 | _Atomo64_ | 290 issn't an error msg... (4xx and 5xx are)... err, wth I don't remember |
| 02:07.55 | _Atomo64_ | give me a sec and I'll tell you |
| 02:08.29 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Actually it's RPL_DATASTR, but dancer (-> Freenode) uses it for its CAPAB IDENTIFY-MSG crap. Recent and obscure, it was an unfair question ;) |
| 02:09.02 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: err, I don't have it in my client.,.. I think that it isn't necessary |
| 02:09.13 | _Atomo64_ | lol |
| 02:09.34 | *** join/#kde mhall (n=mhall@uop-9-97.pacific.edu) |
| 02:09.45 | mhall | KDE developers, you rock my socks! The message you have composed seems to refer to an attached file but you have not attached anything. |
| 02:09.47 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Yeah it's a corner case thing |
| 02:09.51 | mhall | Do you want to attach a file to your message? |
| 02:10.00 | mhall | That's the best error message. EVAR. lol! |
| 02:10.29 | mhall | Just when I was about to look like an idiot not attaching my important document in kmail, up pops that wondrous dialog box, to remind me. :-) |
| 02:10.33 | Sho_ | mhall: Wow, that has almost "It looks like you're writing a letter" quality |
| 02:10.41 | Sho_ | mhall: Did Clippy appear? |
| 02:10.47 | mhall | Sho_: except, this time, it's actually useful and doesn't suck |
| 02:10.54 | Sho_ | mhall: hehe :) |
| 02:10.55 | mhall | Sho_: and it's easy to exit from it |
| 02:11.18 | mhall | Sho_: just click the bitch go away button and you're done |
| 02:11.25 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: err.. the best error msg I'v ever got is this from WINE: "(main.php:8): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_font_load: font name -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 illegal |
| 02:11.25 | _Atomo64_ | wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x67fa6b5d (thread 0009), starting debugger... |
| 02:11.25 | _Atomo64_ | Usage: |
| 02:11.25 | _Atomo64_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.37 | mhall | Sho_: that's not what it's officially called of course ;-) |
| 02:11.46 | mhall | Sho_: it wouldn't pass l10n |
| 02:11.49 | mhall | Sho_: ;-) |
| 02:11.54 | mhall | _Atomo64_: nice |
| 02:12.21 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: not even WINE knows how to load it's debugger... what a nice thing, don't you think? |
| 02:12.44 | mhall | _Atomo64_: but hey, they wrote it in ugly C and C++, so they'll be too busy chasing down those null pointers and memory corruption problems to get the debugger to load |
| 02:12.44 | *** join/#kde chavo (n=chavo@68.235.250.234) |
| 02:13.01 | Sho_ | mhall: KDE_LANG="grumpy" perhaps ;) |
| 02:13.07 | mhall | Sho_: hehe |
| 02:13.22 | mhall | Sho_: fuck, i really want to do it, but it'd take *so many* strings |
| 02:13.31 | mhall | I can't imagine how many strings there are in KDE now. |
| 02:13.39 | mhall | Perhaps a million or two? |
| 02:13.57 | mhall | KDE is A LOT OF CODE |
| 02:13.59 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: C is not <<that>> bad... but C++.... C++ rocks! |
| 02:14.26 | Sho_ | mhall: Around 100k it seems |
| 02:14.51 | mhall | Sho_: that's more strings than 10 novels |
| 02:14.58 | mhall | a typical novel is... 50,000 words |
| 02:15.02 | Sho_ | mhall: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/ |
| 02:15.06 | mhall | but then again not all of the strings are whole sentences |
| 02:16.19 | mhall | There must be some dedicated people working on that project. |
| 02:16.22 | mhall | That's intense work. |
| 02:16.29 | Sho_ | mhall: You simply need to write a Grumpyizer to auto-generate it :) |
| 02:16.40 | mhall | I have to translate things regularly as part of my work toward a German degree. It's very hard to do. |
| 02:17.00 | mhall | We sit around for 4 hours a week in many of my classes debating semantics of words. |
| 02:17.07 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: does karamba is executable? ... I don't see it anywhere in the k-menu |
| 02:17.11 | Sho_ | mhall: Our translators rock. Nothing like making a change to a fairly obscure piece of code in extragear and seeing 10 translation updates trickle in over the subsequent afternoon ;) |
| 02:17.24 | mhall | And on the Internet you don't even have the liberty of face-to-face hack sessions. |
| 02:17.41 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Utlities -> Desktop -> Desktop Widgets (SuperKaramba) |
| 02:17.57 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: lol... tnxs |
| 02:18.02 | mhall | Sho_: KDE in general is a rocking suite of stuff imo. There's only about one UI thing I can't alter that I'd like to change. |
| 02:18.15 | Sho_ | mhall: Was waere das? :) |
| 02:18.44 | mhall | Sho_: What do you suppose it'd take to get kicker to add tasks to its bar from left-to-right instead of top, bottom, next column; top, bottom, next column... |
| 02:19.05 | mhall | Sho_: this order is not very topologically convenient for me to keep in my head |
| 02:19.15 | Sho_ | mhall: If you change kicker's size to "Small", it will be reduced to one row |
| 02:19.29 | mhall | yeah, but I have 8 desktops :-) |
| 02:19.36 | Sho_ | mhall: That would be the easy way to go ;) |
| 02:20.01 | Sho_ | mhall: In order to get a left-to-right;next row;left-to-right behaviour, the source would have to be changed |
| 02:20.03 | mhall | i'm 99.9% on the keyboard these days anyway, so not a real big deal |
| 02:20.17 | mhall | Sho_: yeah that's what i concluded one-time before |
| 02:20.26 | Sho_ | mhall: You can configure kicker to only show tasks from the current virtual desktop |
| 02:20.34 | mhall | Sho_: yes, it's like that already |
| 02:20.42 | Sho_ | mhall: When you do that, you may be able to live with one-row kickers :) |
| 02:20.55 | mhall | Sho_: sometimes it still gets a bit hectic if i'm opening up half of wikipedia at a time |
| 02:21.15 | mhall | Sho_: and of course i do use konq and fox tabs, but it still gets a little out of hand |
| 02:21.26 | mhall | wikipedia is the world's ultimate time sink if you're a reader |
| 02:21.32 | chavo | mhall, just memorize the whole wikipedia :) |
| 02:21.33 | mhall | you could be there days and days |
| 02:21.39 | mhall | chavo: i'm well on my way i suspect |
| 02:22.25 | Sho_ | mhall: As for the behaviour you really desire, it would probably be somewhat non-trivial because the kicker code is rather convoluted (lots of fixes for corner cases). Then you'd need to figure out how long you want to keep on rescaling the entries in a row before "linebreaking" into the second one. |
| 02:22.27 | mhall | chavo: i'll bet i've read 5σ more than the general population |
| 02:22.58 | Sho_ | mhall: It's no rocket science, but starting from scratch (i.e. looking at the kicker code for the first time) prepare to spend an evening ;) |
| 02:23.12 | mhall | Sho_: yeah, the linebreaking might not be so bad; you have got the standard size kicker cells |
| 02:23.16 | chavo | yeah kicker code is kinda strwn about |
| 02:23.28 | mhall | Sho_: then, just load-balance and progressively squeeze as things get crazy? |
| 02:23.50 | mhall | but... it might confuse users when the row has more tasks added and subtracted on the fly |
| 02:24.08 | mhall | hmm, i can see why writing kicker would be hard now even though it seems "obvious" |
| 02:24.14 | Sho_ | mhall: The squeezing code you can probably already reuse, the new bit you'd need to introduce is the fork in the road at which you stop squeezing and start putting things into the second row :) |
| 02:24.37 | mhall | Sho_: yeah that's not going to be as trivial of a decision as i used to assume |
| 02:24.39 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: wth... how can I get the version of superkaramba? since the deb apt information says that it is "4:3.5.1-2" -_- |
| 02:24.49 | Sho_ | mhall: Actually the applet will probably be very much designed around the current behaviour (guessing here), so you'd need to rearrange/rewrite most of it |
| 02:24.51 | mhall | Sho_: if you made a bad choice people would get discombobulated |
| 02:25.21 | mhall | i.e. it's a well known facts that orientals removed from the orient, get disoriented. |
| 02:25.25 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Looks like you're up to date, then (KDE 3.5.1) |
| 02:25.31 | chavo | _Atomo64_, superkaramba is separate from kde until 4.0 |
| 02:26.05 | Sho_ | mhall: Yeah, kicker looks simple on the surface, but in reality it's an enormous compendium of real world corner case fixes |
| 02:26.18 | Sho_ | mhall: And new bugs keep appearing :-D |
| 02:26.19 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: I know that I've kde 3.5.1 ... but in the liquid weather ++ page says that I need at least superkaramba version 0.37 or greater |
| 02:26.39 | Sho_ | chavo: SuperKaramba is integrated into KDE 3.5 |
| 02:26.53 | *** join/#kde rares000 (i=foobar@66-159-183-238.adsl.snet.net) |
| 02:26.54 | mhall | Sho_: any time you have users, the code is bad |
| 02:26.57 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: I believe the SuperKaramba in KDE 3.5 corresponds to 0.38 |
| 02:27.05 | mhall | Sho_: i'm still waiting for a language where this isn't true |
| 02:27.08 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: tnxs :) |
| 02:27.13 | mhall | Sho_: C++ is definitely *not* that language |
| 02:27.16 | _Atomo64_ | 3.9MB? -_- |
| 02:27.19 | *** join/#kde akaias (n=akaias@c-24-15-158-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:27.34 | _Atomo64_ | C++ and PHP are <<the>> languages |
| 02:27.34 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Liquid Weather contains a shitload of icons, backgrounds, etc. |
| 02:27.43 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Mostly graphics, those 4 MB |
| 02:27.45 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: ah... that's why... |
| 02:27.59 | Sho_ | mhall: Yeah, you're right |
| 02:28.04 | mhall | C code can stay neat, if you write it well and don't abuse C. But most people abuse C. In fact, C might well be made with abuse in mind. |
| 02:28.07 | rares000 | how do I control what video output noatun uses |
| 02:28.08 | _Atomo64_ | err... one more week an my new 160GB HDD will be here... |
| 02:28.15 | mhall | _Atomo64_: SATA? |
| 02:28.27 | rares000 | like how do I make it use xshm instead xv |
| 02:28.29 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: .... errr.... -_- |
| 02:28.41 | mhall | _Atomo64_: I'm starting work for HP when I graduate in June, so I'm going to get a monstrous system using my HP corporate discount. |
| 02:28.43 | Sho_ | rares000: Noatun uses xinelib I think |
| 02:28.43 | _Atomo64_ | western digital 160GB 7200 rpm... |
| 02:28.51 | Sho_ | rares000: ~/.xinerc or something |
| 02:28.54 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: HP or PHP? |
| 02:28.57 | *** join/#kde fred87 (n=fred@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk) |
| 02:29.01 | mhall | _Atomo64_: HP |
| 02:29.04 | _Atomo64_ | because a 'P' makes a big diff |
| 02:29.05 | _Atomo64_ | :P |
| 02:29.12 | Sho_ | rares000: While you're at it, you may want to check out Kaffeine or KMplayer, two of the better KDE video players |
| 02:29.18 | mhall | _Atomo64_: I'm a whitehat, not a web developer. |
| 02:29.30 | mhall | _Atomo64_: They make it, I break it. :-) |
| 02:29.31 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: but then you could use the HPnix or whatever it is called... |
| 02:29.46 | mhall | _Atomo64_: HP/UX *shudder* |
| 02:29.48 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: HP-UX |
| 02:29.57 | Sho_ | Does anybody use that anymore? |
| 02:29.58 | mhall | _Atomo64_: I'm figuring one of their Opteron boxes with Debian. |
| 02:30.12 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: I used to do that... now I just try to find out and fix it :P without hurting nobody (excepting those who tries to break it) |
| 02:30.22 | mhall | Sho_: not so much; they're phasing out the Superdome and their Opteron boxes are Linux-preferred, I believe. |
| 02:30.26 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: I think so |
| 02:30.45 | mhall | Sho_: enterprises with legacy stuff, as per usual with OS/390 and other such oddities |
| 02:30.58 | Sho_ | mhall: Yeah |
| 02:31.10 | rares000 | also it seems that drm is not releasing resources properly I get the dreaded discolored video after I play a video once |
| 02:31.16 | mhall | _Atomo64_: no, I don't go hack on other peoples' stuff, that's not nice |
| 02:31.21 | mhall | _Atomo64_: I just look for problems. |
| 02:31.48 | _Atomo64_ | mhall: well, sometimes you <<have to>> to find those bygs... don't you think? |
| 02:31.58 | mhall | Sho_: Really, the only thing keeping everybody from using Linux is that it doesn't support enough CPUs for some really big boxes. |
| 02:32.13 | mhall | Sho_: It can't run on any more than 16 very well, from what I hear. |
| 02:32.33 | *** join/#kde tottoro (n=tottoro@KHP059141138085.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 02:32.50 | mhall | Sho_: I'm pretty sure the AMD64 vendors will fix it by 2007, they are upgrading HyperTransport to allow more processors so that they can make big NUMA boxes with it. |
| 02:33.16 | mhall | Sho_: It should be pretty cool, when you could run Linux on every kind of popular machine. |
| 02:33.35 | mhall | Sho_: Especially 64-bit and 3ghz per core. |
| 02:33.40 | Sho_ | mhall: I was a bit surprised by the announcement of IBM opening a new AIX development center |
| 02:34.22 | Sho_ | mhall: Since I had previously assumed their intention to be to get Linux in shape to obsolete AIX |
| 02:34.52 | mhall | Sho_: that's fucked up |
| 02:35.03 | mhall | Sho_: i suppose the enterprises forced their hands |
| 02:35.15 | mhall | Sho_: enterprises are weird about linux |
| 02:35.30 | mhall | Sho_: we had to fight tooth and nail to use it when i worked in the telecom industry |
| 02:35.43 | |main| | linux doesnt have the name behind it |
| 02:35.57 | |main| | it has an image of teenagers writing messed up code at midnight |
| 02:36.11 | |main| | thats what several people told me, no joking |
| 02:36.30 | mhall | |main|: your words hurt but they're true |
| 02:36.40 | |main| | no offence intended |
| 02:36.48 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: how do I make superkaramba show crystal monitor? |
| 02:36.58 | mhall | |main|: none taken, i'm just explaining why the response was quiet |
| 02:37.14 | Sho_ | Alrighty, it's getting late over here in the CE(S)T time zone ;-). G'night guys. |
| 02:37.19 | mhall | Sho_: n8 |
| 02:37.20 | |main| | night:) |
| 02:37.54 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@host183-129.pool8252.interbusiness.it) |
| 02:38.04 | mhall | root: best not to irc as root, root |
| 02:41.02 | manveru | :) |
| 02:42.20 | mhall | manveru: ? |
| 02:42.32 | manveru | ;) |
| 02:42.37 | manveru | sry, i'm just happy |
| 02:42.45 | mhall | manveru: that's fine |
| 02:42.48 | *** join/#kde toothpick (n=toothpic@c-69-139-130-166.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 02:42.53 | mhall | manveru: just wondered what was going on |
| 02:42.59 | toothpick | what is the command to run the kde newsticker? |
| 02:43.00 | _Atomo64_ | well... got go to... cya ang gn8 |
| 02:43.05 | _Atomo64_ | *got to go |
| 02:43.07 | manveru | gn8 |
| 02:43.11 | mhall | _Atomo64_: peace |
| 02:43.18 | _Atomo64_ | lol |
| 02:43.43 | mhall | toothpick: couldn't be knewsticker could it >:-) |
| 02:43.54 | toothpick | that isn't found |
| 02:43.55 | mhall | mhall@themhallbox:~$ apt-cache search kde | grep -i news |
| 02:43.55 | mhall | knewsticker - news ticker applet for KDE |
| 02:43.55 | mhall | knewsticker-scripts - scripts for KNewsTicker, the KDE news ticker |
| 02:43.58 | mhall | hmm |
| 02:44.05 | *** join/#kde Bread (n=baguette@user-562.l5.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 02:44.25 | toothpick | knewstickerstub is the only command close in my path |
| 02:44.48 | toothpick | but I don't get anything on the screen when i run that, and if I do apt-get install knewsticker it tells me I already have the latest installed. |
| 02:44.58 | mhall | toothpick: -rwxr-xr-x root/root 107904 2006-02-01 15:19:14 ./usr/bin/knewstickerstub |
| 02:45.07 | mhall | toothpick: hmm let's see |
| 02:45.21 | mhall | toothpick: i bet you have to add it to the kicker as an applet |
| 02:45.30 | mhall | toothpick: and then it makes some 'magic call' to get it started up |
| 02:45.40 | mhall | toothpick: try rightclicking in the taskbar and adding the applet |
| 02:46.07 | toothpick | ok, that is probably it. |
| 02:46.12 | toothpick | I am running enlightenment. |
| 02:46.18 | *** join/#kde Exis (n=bart@pdpc/supporter/active/Exis) |
| 02:46.26 | mhall | toothpick: yeah then i think you're screwed |
| 02:48.08 | toothpick | Perhaps I can run something that will allow me to run the applets. |
| 02:48.15 | mhall | toothpick: hunt through this output: apt-cache search ticker and apt-cache search news | grep -iv usenet |
| 02:48.19 | *** part/#kde oneforall (n=oneforal@d206-75-54-86.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 02:48.27 | mhall | toothpick: there are some window-manager neutral news tickers you can try |
| 02:48.34 | mhall | toothpick: this will probably work out better for you |
| 02:48.59 | |main| | hmm |
| 02:49.14 | |main| | anyone knows how to assign icons in konq search bar? |
| 02:49.29 | |main| | all my search engines have just an empty icon, aside from google and wikipedia |
| 02:49.37 | toothpick | Maybe I can even find one that is transparent or fake transarent. |
| 02:49.43 | gfx | how can I change the mouse wheel sensitivity for GTK apps like firefox, it doesnt seem to obey KDE's Control center? |
| 02:49.59 | *** join/#kde MadDingo (n=MadDingo@ool-44c64691.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:52.07 | *** join/#kde karuna_murti (i=1000@202.150.39.228) |
| 02:52.34 | *** join/#kde ilcid (n=ilcid@S0106004005492a60.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 02:52.42 | *** part/#kde ilcid (n=ilcid@S0106004005492a60.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 02:55.18 | *** join/#kde Sho_ (i=sho@konversation/developer/hein) |
| 02:56.16 | gfx | how can I change the mouse wheel sensitivity for GTK apps like firefox, it doesnt seem to obey KDE's Control center? |
| 03:00.41 | karuna_murti | gfx: how about xorg.conf ? |
| 03:01.26 | gfx | karuna_murti: I dont know how to do that, any instructions |
| 03:03.16 | *** join/#kde guitar256 (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:04.17 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:04.33 | *** join/#kde mendred (n=mendred@59.92.47.213) |
| 03:06.04 | *** join/#kde oGALAXYo (n=galaxy@p5481CF81.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:09.13 | karuna_murti | gfx: sorry, there is no option for wheel speed in xorg.conf |
| 03:09.54 | joscha | is it possible to ad-block flash in konqui? |
| 03:11.47 | gfx | karuna_murti: wats the work around for this? |
| 03:12.34 | karuna_murti | gfx:sorry, my mistake |
| 03:12.51 | chavo | gfx, you can set it from firefox |
| 03:12.53 | *** join/#kde unity (n=unity@pool-141-155-59-19.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:13.18 | |main| | joscha, add *.swf in your adblock hosts? |
| 03:13.23 | |main| | not sure if this will work well |
| 03:13.25 | *** join/#kde GerbilSoft (n=gerbilso@c-69-137-128-178.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:13.34 | unity | having trouble starting up kmail for the first time...i get this: KMail could not create folder '$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail'; anyone know what i can do? |
| 03:13.50 | unity | i checked permissions for the folder, they allow me to read and write |
| 03:14.06 | *** join/#kde guitar256 (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:14.15 | joscha | |main|: i mean something like right-click on an flash to ad-block |
| 03:14.29 | unity | file:/home/unity/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock is there and it's 61 bytes |
| 03:14.37 | joscha | firefox ad-block has an flash overlay |
| 03:14.51 | |main| | joscha, i dont know then |
| 03:15.07 | |main| | i was looking for the same capability, too |
| 03:15.47 | gfx | I got it thanks |
| 03:15.52 | gfx | uts now working |
| 03:15.58 | |main| | joscha, i think i know what u can do |
| 03:16.20 | |main| | you can create service menus in konq |
| 03:16.29 | |main| | but i dont think they work over flash anims :( |
| 03:16.50 | joscha | no they don't |
| 03:17.00 | *** join/#kde AngryElf (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:17.32 | *** join/#kde AngryElf (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:17.48 | |main| | well, then its a problem, hehe |
| 03:18.51 | *** join/#kde The_Ball (n=alex@203.36.234.15) |
| 03:19.51 | |main| | BTW, I’ve also discovered an option to “Just use plugins on demand”, that way you get a “Start plugin” button instead of flash animations. |
| 03:21.29 | *** join/#kde grepster (n=robert@ip216-239-83-175.vif.net) |
| 03:23.01 | *** join/#kde AngryElf (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:24.08 | *** join/#kde vladc (n=chatzill@cpe-70-112-182-25.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 03:24.18 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 03:25.31 | *** join/#kde shinjii__ (n=shinjii@60-240-242-54.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:27.12 | *** join/#kde AngryElf (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:29.28 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:33.33 | *** join/#kde Jester (n=Jester@unaffiliated/jester) |
| 03:34.21 | Jester | Are my ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc supposed to be read when I login from kdm ? |
| 03:35.54 | *** join/#kde tarmath (n=tarmath@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3497027.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:36.19 | *** join/#kde AngryElf (n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 03:36.39 | *** part/#kde toothpick (n=toothpic@c-69-139-130-166.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:37.15 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:43.44 | *** join/#kde adrian_ (n=adrian@h216-170-043-238.adsl.navix.net) |
| 03:47.18 | *** join/#kde SJr (n=email@S01060080c8de5973.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 03:47.36 | SJr | Unfortunatetly I'm not on the machine with KDE right now |
| 03:47.51 | SJr | but I was messing with the themes and there seems to be major problems when you change colors. |
| 03:48.10 | SJr | If I go to the Ad Applet KDE Panel every other option is unreadable because of the opposite color |
| 03:48.16 | SJr | I cannot find exactly where this color is specified however |
| 03:48.55 | SJr | Even if I switch from Plastic to Klassic, and Back the background color, dark blue is unreadable. |
| 03:49.59 | chavo | SJr, it's in colors -. Alternate Background in Lists |
| 03:50.35 | SJr | Nice |
| 03:50.41 | SJr | is there a problem with themes right now? |
| 03:50.56 | *** join/#kde unstable (i=lilug@ptr.ld50.se) |
| 03:50.57 | chavo | not that I know of, no problems here |
| 03:50.58 | SJr | I notice if I switch to KDE dark high contrast, only half of the theme applies |
| 03:52.03 | *** join/#kde dotCOMmie (n=tox@ool-182dfa0f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:52.08 | *** join/#kde thechris (n=chris@cv517-216.cv.siue.edu) |
| 03:52.29 | dotCOMmie | does anyone know if its possible to "lock" kde from command line? |
| 03:52.43 | SJr | dotCOMmie why would you want to? |
| 03:52.48 | SJr | if you want an easy way to lock |
| 03:52.56 | SJr | There is a Lock Applet you can add |
| 03:53.00 | dotCOMmie | SJr: I want to write a script |
| 03:53.45 | dotCOMmie | or is there a way to make it so my lappy locks session when I close lid |
| 03:55.52 | SJr | hmmmm |
| 03:56.21 | dotCOMmie | hmm maybe something to do with kdesktop_lock |
| 03:56.25 | HuntsMan | dotCOMmie: sure, try dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 03:56.51 | SJr | HuntsMan will that work from the console? |
| 03:57.09 | HuntsMan | it does here |
| 03:57.23 | caffei | SJr, this works too: dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 03:57.29 | caffei | doh |
| 03:57.33 | caffei | beaten to it ;o |
| 03:57.40 | dotCOMmie | HuntsMan: awesome! |
| 03:57.58 | dotCOMmie | caffei: thanks |
| 03:58.50 | SJr | Ok caffei so I switch to High Contrast Dark theme |
| 03:58.50 | *** join/#kde dany (n=root@217-162-147-4.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 03:59.09 | SJr | and the 'K Bar' lacking a better term is still sorta Plastik its white, tho the text is white as well. |
| 03:59.23 | SJr | The applet buttons some are black and some aren't and most of the icons are the correct ones. |
| 03:59.29 | dotCOMmie | unstable: what you doing here? you dont even use kde |
| 03:59.34 | dotCOMmie | d: |
| 04:00.09 | *** join/#kde KanRiNiN (n=frenchja@c-68-40-176-34.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:00.36 | SJr | I also notice that the windows |
| 04:00.39 | SJr | are really thick now |
| 04:01.01 | *** join/#kde saint (n=saint@202.155.163.30) |
| 04:01.40 | *** join/#kde thechris (n=chris@cv517-216.cv.siue.edu) |
| 04:04.43 | *** part/#kde unstable (i=lilug@ptr.ld50.se) |
| 04:13.48 | *** join/#kde hacosta (n=hector@201.153.89.211) |
| 04:15.33 | *** join/#kde nacer (n=laradji@host33-67.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 04:18.51 | *** join/#kde glick (n=dbunch@cpe-24-193-237-232.ucwphilly.res.rr.com) |
| 04:19.04 | glick | excuse me, how do i compile a basic kde application? |
| 04:19.36 | nacer | mmm |
| 04:19.42 | nacer | ./configure |
| 04:19.44 | nacer | make |
| 04:20.29 | *** join/#kde keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:25.05 | *** join/#kde andz (i=andz@dslb-084-056-021-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:25.30 | glick | http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p2.html |
| 04:25.34 | glick | im trying to compile that program |
| 04:26.07 | nacer | ok |
| 04:26.35 | nacer | g++ -o testapp yourfilesource |
| 04:26.40 | nacer | somethink like that |
| 04:27.39 | *** join/#kde bssteph (n=cthulhu@68-187-126-133.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 04:27.47 | *** join/#kde benklop (n=ben@68-64-169-112.clspco.adelphia.net) |
| 04:27.52 | glick | nah doesnt work |
| 04:28.09 | nacer | i back |
| 04:28.11 | *** part/#kde nacer (n=laradji@host33-67.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 04:28.30 | *** part/#kde dotCOMmie (n=tox@ool-182dfa0f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:29.12 | *** join/#kde shinjii_ (n=shinjii@60-240-146-221.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:31.18 | *** join/#kde laradji (n=laradji@host33-67.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 04:31.35 | laradji | re |
| 04:32.38 | *** join/#kde Skiff (n=Skiff@cpe-72-225-160-116.si.res.rr.com) |
| 04:35.00 | Parkotron | Does anyone know how to hide the kicker with DCOP? |
| 04:35.18 | *** part/#kde glick (n=dbunch@cpe-24-193-237-232.ucwphilly.res.rr.com) |
| 04:38.18 | *** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@ppp152-23.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 04:45.07 | *** join/#kde kingb (n=kingb@adsl-84-227-15-47.adslplus.ch) |
| 04:48.33 | *** join/#kde scott (n=scott@ip70-176-140-19.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:57.53 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 05:00.07 | *** join/#kde Frost^ (n=sweiss@CBL217-132-81-181.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 05:05.37 | *** join/#kde Skiff (n=Skiff@cpe-72-225-160-116.si.res.rr.com) |
| 05:22.15 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 05:23.35 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-53-53.paradise.net.nz) |
| 05:25.39 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-53-67.paradise.net.nz) |
| 05:27.49 | *** join/#kde TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@mail.responsum.dk) |
| 05:32.18 | *** join/#kde big-ben (n=kingb@adsl-84-227-15-47.adslplus.ch) |
| 05:35.58 | *** join/#kde cyphase (n=cyphase@adsl-75-2-137-184.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:40.58 | *** join/#kde cbr (n=cbr@213-35-221-23-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee) |
| 05:42.24 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 05:48.11 | *** join/#kde _mendred (n=mendred@59.92.49.133) |
| 05:48.37 | *** join/#kde Sevidul (n=Sevidul@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:49.53 | *** join/#kde whirm (n=whirm@80.174.186.224) |
| 05:54.02 | *** join/#kde Urgleflogue (n=plamen@83.228.65.158) |
| 05:59.49 | *** join/#kde wsjunior (i=1000@unaffiliated/wsjunior) |
| 06:06.22 | *** join/#kde marcusU (n=marcus@host-216-39-197-244.mylinuxisp.com) |
| 06:09.20 | *** join/#kde adamt_ (n=adam@217.61.177.125) |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#kde mendred (n=mendred@59.92.63.17) |
| 06:14.31 | *** join/#kde flaccid (n=flaccid@58.169.76.105) |
| 06:15.47 | flaccid | i changed my session settings to not restore sessions on load. now i can't keep kwifimanager in the system tray i have to minimise it to keep it open and have it in the taskbar as well. is this normal? |
| 06:16.12 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 06:17.17 | *** join/#kde pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-44.maa.sify.net) |
| 06:17.23 | *** join/#kde ner0x (n=ner0x@c-67-163-224-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 06:17.49 | ner0x | Okay, brand new to KDE. Where do I download themes after I get them. How do I configure gtk+2 themes with it and what could be the reason I have no icons. lol |
| 06:18.55 | *** join/#kde badfish (i=dfdsf@43-87.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) |
| 06:19.00 | badfish | <badfish> http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31023&dl=3 |
| 06:19.00 | badfish | <badfish> nice article on microsoft future plans |
| 06:21.28 | flaccid | that says nothing about microsoft badfish |
| 06:21.51 | *** part/#kde badfish (i=dfdsf@43-87.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) |
| 06:22.00 | flaccid | dickhead |
| 06:22.55 | *** join/#kde hagabaka (i=500@alchemyst.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu) |
| 06:25.12 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@i-134.vc-graz.ac.at) |
| 06:28.17 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@dyn-173.dsl.coinet.com) |
| 06:30.41 | karuna_murti | badfish: how do you open .zdo file? |
| 06:30.47 | *** join/#kde jong (n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl) |
| 06:31.17 | *** join/#kde xxenon (i=xxenon@81.13.239.65) |
| 06:31.36 | *** join/#kde Billthe4th (n=Billthe4@hallenclose.plus.com) |
| 06:32.46 | *** part/#kde marcusU (n=marcus@host-216-39-197-244.mylinuxisp.com) |
| 06:34.23 | *** join/#kde peppelorum (i=peppe@pdpc/supporter/student/peppelorum) |
| 06:34.49 | DylanB | have any of you had a strange problem before where you're typing a fairly important document in KOffice, and in the bottom left hand corne it says "Page 1/$X", where $X is a rapidly increasing number, and the rest of the application locks up and consumes 100% cpu while that number continues to rise? |
| 06:35.52 | DylanB | kde 3.5 on slackware -current, btw |
| 06:36.51 | DylanB | $X is up to 648 |
| 06:36.56 | DylanB | 655 |
| 06:39.46 | *** join/#kde grom358 (n=grom@58.164.177.104) |
| 06:40.05 | *** join/#kde StB (n=me@dslb-084-057-003-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:40.22 | *** part/#kde StB (n=me@dslb-084-057-003-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:40.45 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 06:40.58 | grom358 | Can anyone tell me if PDF allows you to set a colour for the paper. So it displays the page as a colour. For example, I got a form here that has to be printed out on green paper |
| 06:41.46 | DylanB | it'd be a lot easier and cheaper to go buy some green paper |
| 06:42.08 | DylanB | but you may be able to apply a tint to it somehow |
| 06:42.25 | grom358 | no.. I don't want it to print green ink out |
| 06:42.42 | grom358 | I just want it to show up in PDF as green. But user has to feed in green paper |
| 06:43.02 | *** join/#kde foxy (n=foxy@p54962DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:43.05 | DylanB | ah, so just change the background of the pdf from white to green? |
| 06:43.33 | *** join/#kde chavo (n=chavo@68.235.250.234) |
| 06:44.15 | grom358 | DylanB: yes |
| 06:44.22 | grom358 | but only still printing with black ink |
| 06:44.34 | DylanB | i don't think you can do that without makiing the printer print out green ink, too |
| 06:45.24 | *** join/#kde Faizi (n=Faizi@60.51.70.131) |
| 06:45.48 | DylanB | man, i hope autosave kicked in.. |
| 06:46.38 | DylanB | oh thank Bob, it did |
| 06:48.49 | *** join/#kde flaccid (n=flaccid@58.169.76.105) |
| 06:49.22 | *** join/#kde uranther (n=james@12-220-184-176.client.insightBB.com) |
| 06:49.36 | flaccid | what would be the best way to via shell script to check if session manager starts with empty session or restores previous? |
| 06:50.33 | *** join/#kde tschabet (n=tschabet@82.150.204.88) |
| 06:54.26 | *** join/#kde jesusfish_ (n=chatzill@216.16.226.186) |
| 06:55.27 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:58.15 | *** join/#kde straw (n=strawman@stjhnbsu84w-156034188340.nb.aliant.net) |
| 07:00.04 | *** join/#kde thomas_ (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) |
| 07:00.34 | *** join/#kde tvo (n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl) |
| 07:09.59 | *** join/#kde keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 07:13.19 | *** join/#kde doktoreas (n=geko@host232-196.pool8710.interbusiness.it) |
| 07:13.43 | DylanB | can someone do me a huge favor? |
| 07:14.04 | fred87 | if it's kill George, yes |
| 07:14.10 | *** join/#kde Mighty (n=xander@xammy.demon.nl) |
| 07:14.17 | Mighty | mornign folks |
| 07:14.18 | DylanB | not quite |
| 07:14.23 | *** join/#kde naga (n=naga@c-c0f5e055.104-1-64736c15.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:14.24 | *** join/#kde kelvie (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 07:14.27 | DylanB | trying to track down my odd koffice bug |
| 07:14.30 | fred87 | :( |
| 07:15.10 | Mighty | does anyone know how you can disable konqueror from scanning for .directory files on ghosted automount map entries in a browsable autofs directory? |
| 07:15.11 | DylanB | could you go into koffice, make a new text document, add text, text, a table, some more text and then select the table and some text, increase indent by 1 and try to save? |
| 07:15.48 | fred87 | DylanB: what's expected problem? |
| 07:15.50 | Mighty | as you can imagine,it causes quite a strain on resources when you have 5000 entries in your autofs map and konqeuror causes all of them to e mounted :) |
| 07:16.24 | DylanB | fred87, koshell should freeze and consume 100% cpu until you kill it |
| 07:16.26 | George | fred87: bastard |
| 07:16.35 | DylanB | at least that's what happens to me |
| 07:16.35 | George | fred87: you're up early you tit |
| 07:17.00 | benJIman | it seems to crash here DylanB |
| 07:17.12 | benJIman | at least it's spent about 30s trying to save |
| 07:17.27 | DylanB | gah |
| 07:17.39 | benJIman | yeah kword is using 95% cpu |
| 07:17.46 | DylanB | sure enough, a bug arises ONLY when something is due the next day |
| 07:17.51 | fred87 | George: aint gone to sleep yet |
| 07:18.26 | fred87 | DylanB: sorry, already got 100% cpu usage due to compiling kde 3.5.2 :) |
| 07:18.42 | DylanB | ooh, sounds fun |
| 07:19.00 | DylanB | run a few instances of cpuburn in the background to give your machine a break ;) |
| 07:19.31 | *** join/#kde benklop (n=ben@68-64-169-112.clspco.adelphia.net) |
| 07:21.51 | *** join/#kde markey (n=mark@amarok/developer/markey) |
| 07:23.11 | *** join/#kde _RADIOhead (n=slack@80.80.168.254) |
| 07:32.48 | karuna_murti | kde 3.5.2? |
| 07:33.38 | *** join/#kde lippel (n=frank@kde/developer/osterfeld) |
| 07:36.32 | hagabaka | Adjust Time and Date is only setting the date and time for the KDE clock, but not for other programs... |
| 07:38.35 | *** join/#kde georges (n=georges@129.194.54.121) |
| 07:39.53 | *** join/#kde fiorini (n=fiorini@sei.yacme.com) |
| 07:40.02 | *** join/#kde The_Ball (n=alex@203.36.234.40) |
| 07:41.01 | *** join/#kde naga (n=naga@c-c0f5e055.104-1-64736c15.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:48.03 | *** join/#kde simian__ (n=ben@85-210-43-203.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 07:50.37 | *** join/#kde wsjunior (i=1000@unaffiliated/wsjunior) |
| 07:51.19 | *** join/#kde visik7 (n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 07:51.31 | visik7 | anyone here using kblogger ? |
| 07:51.59 | *** join/#kde katrinska (n=katrinsk@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de) |
| 07:52.49 | *** join/#kde jochen0806 (n=jochen08@p54895702.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:53.21 | simian__ | not I |
| 07:55.03 | *** join/#kde Marrs (n=marcel@a80-126-75-36.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 07:56.25 | *** join/#kde gnu_style (n=None@203.177.244.123) |
| 07:58.27 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 08:01.01 | gnu_style | KDE version 3.5.1 is better than 3.5? |
| 08:01.40 | SJr | I would hope so |
| 08:01.45 | SJr | otherwise the developers have been wasting there time |
| 08:03.23 | *** join/#kde racter (n=jake@ppp-68-251-73-184.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 08:03.51 | Mighty | does anyone know how you can disable konqueror from scanning for .directory files on ghosted automount map entries in a browsable autofs directory? with 5000 entries in the map with the home dirs, this causes insane number of mounts to be made |
| 08:03.59 | racter | i just upgraded to kde3.5 (kubuntu) and now i am getting a nasty 'sigsegv' error that doesn't let me log in (from kdmgreet) -- is there a common solution to this? |
| 08:04.36 | *** join/#kde benJIman|tov (n=bw@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk) |
| 08:04.44 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 08:04.46 | *** join/#kde human_blip (n=mike@mike.nelsonbay.com) |
| 08:05.09 | *** join/#kde TeaSea (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) |
| 08:05.18 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 08:05.30 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 08:07.44 | *** join/#kde globuslnx (n=formigue@ool-457c4951.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:08.04 | globuslnx | hi |
| 08:08.26 | globuslnx | I regret deeply that issue about trolltech not making qt gpl |
| 08:08.49 | globuslnx | although I am doing a kde installation right now I never used it on my own computer |
| 08:08.49 | *** join/#kde nuonguy (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:09.04 | benJIman | globuslnx: err Qt is gpled |
| 08:09.07 | globuslnx | is there a chance trolltech will change their mind and make it gpl? |
| 08:09.09 | racter | globuslnx: what license is it? |
| 08:09.14 | benJIman | racter: it is GPL |
| 08:09.28 | globuslnx | mm... so why some people complain? |
| 08:09.30 | straw | uhh... that's so over |
| 08:09.42 | globuslnx | I was reading a magazine like from a month ago |
| 08:09.44 | benJIman | globuslnx: some people complain it's not lgpl |
| 08:09.50 | straw | you're reading posts from 5 years ago? |
| 08:09.59 | globuslnx | mm... |
| 08:10.09 | *** join/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.200.49) |
| 08:10.17 | benJIman | globuslnx: if you want to develop non-gpl applications with Qt you have to either GPL them or buy an alternative licence from trolltech |
| 08:10.17 | *** part/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.200.49) |
| 08:10.18 | globuslnx | why is lgpl more gpl than plain gpl? |
| 08:10.21 | benJIman | it's not |
| 08:10.29 | benJIman | GPL requires that all linked code must also be GPL |
| 08:10.33 | benJIman | lgpl does not |
| 08:10.35 | globuslnx | aha |
| 08:11.19 | globuslnx | ok, so I guess is fine then |
| 08:11.32 | benJIman | indeed |
| 08:11.48 | globuslnx | another question I am about to make a gcc 4.x installation... does kde fare well with gcc 4.x? |
| 08:12.05 | benJIman | globuslnx: it's fine with 4.0.2 onwards I think, had some issues with 4.0.0 iirc |
| 08:12.29 | *** join/#kde eln (n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de) |
| 08:14.12 | globuslnx | so i guess KDE devs now compile everything with gcc 4 right? |
| 08:16.24 | *** join/#kde racter (n=jake@ppp-68-251-73-184.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 08:16.37 | hagabaka | can I let Konqueror use true type fonts preferably, regardless of the font family specified in stylesheet? |
| 08:17.13 | *** join/#kde strankan (n=strankan@c83-251-142-93.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 08:17.26 | racter | ok this is a weird gripe but i'm trying to use kate and when i navigate to a folder in the 'open file' dialog, i always get the message 'please select the file to open' and have to click 'ok' before continuing to navigate. |
| 08:17.41 | benJIman | globuslnx: most distros use gcc 4.x now |
| 08:18.10 | *** join/#kde _kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:19.25 | *** part/#kde _kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:19.29 | *** join/#kde pinucset (n=pinucset@197.Red-80-32-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:19.41 | pinucset | its me or today kde 3.5.2 will be released |
| 08:19.43 | pinucset | ? |
| 08:19.53 | *** part/#kde racter (n=jake@ppp-68-251-73-184.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 08:20.50 | globuslnx | pinucset: are there a lot of differences in that one? |
| 08:21.32 | *** join/#kde thiago (n=tjmaciei@kde/thiago) |
| 08:21.44 | pinucset | globusInx only bug fixes |
| 08:22.44 | *** join/#kde floe (n=konversa@i577B01CB.versanet.de) |
| 08:23.24 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:23.35 | *** part/#kde root (n=root@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:24.37 | *** join/#kde simian__ (n=ben@85-210-43-203.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 08:24.56 | *** join/#kde jq (n=jquelin@merlin.mongueurs.net) |
| 08:28.02 | *** join/#kde deathkat (n=deathkat@71-36-195-237.blng.qwest.net) |
| 08:28.04 | *** join/#kde pinucset (n=pinucset@197.Red-80-32-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:28.49 | *** join/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:29.23 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 08:31.07 | *** part/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 08:31.26 | *** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=Lord-Pho@60.234.106.159) |
| 08:34.56 | thechris | is there going to be any more KDE3.x releases before KDE4? |
| 08:36.25 | *** join/#kde _keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 08:37.33 | lippel | thechris: only 3.5.x releases, but no 3.6 |
| 08:38.00 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-53-127.paradise.net.nz) |
| 08:38.38 | thechris | any idea if KDE4 will be here by 2007? |
| 08:38.41 | globuslnx | yes |
| 08:38.54 | globuslnx | don't you see 3.5.1-2 etc? |
| 08:38.55 | *** join/#kde GNUstye (n=GNU_Styl@203.177.244.123) |
| 08:40.33 | *** join/#kde nefertum (n=jon@bipt42.bi.ehu.es) |
| 08:41.43 | *** join/#kde bjantscher (n=bjantsch@M2592P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 08:41.48 | thechris | oh. i wasn't planning on updating my computer until around christmas time |
| 08:43.25 | *** join/#kde paulhannah (n=paulhann@203-59-208-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:44.08 | *** join/#kde Anon_Away (n=irc@phpBB/support/Anon) |
| 08:44.45 | Anon_Away | i'm wondering, what license are the kde icons released under? |
| 08:45.33 | *** part/#kde paulhannah (n=paulhann@203-59-208-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:49.28 | *** part/#kde Arafangion (n=arafangi@220-245-219-42-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:49.40 | visik7 | thechris: no 3 branch stop with 3.5.x |
| 08:49.46 | visik7 | only minor updates |
| 08:50.01 | globuslnx | visik7: when will kde 4 release? |
| 08:50.41 | visik7 | plans are for the end of the year IIRC |
| 08:50.53 | visik7 | I hope it will be out before vista |
| 08:51.09 | Anon_Away | well unless it's released in 2009, it will be ;) |
| 08:52.49 | *** join/#kde mserms (n=mark@81.168.98.153) |
| 08:53.44 | globuslnx | w000t 2009!! |
| 08:53.51 | globuslnx | are you for real? |
| 08:54.27 | Anon_Away | well now it's pushed to 2007, and everyone knows that once it's close, it's pushed back. again. :P |
| 08:55.17 | mserms | Hello. I must be being ultra-blind - I can't find where to set my location to be somewhere in the UK so that my clock gets updated for British Summer Time. Any clues? |
| 08:55.19 | globuslnx | mm.. ok they pushed because m$$ pushed it!!?? |
| 08:55.25 | *** join/#kde tam (n=tam@ineed2.co.uk) |
| 08:55.34 | *** join/#kde wsjunior (i=1000@unaffiliated/wsjunior) |
| 08:57.53 | *** join/#kde PhilRod (n=phil@cpc1-whit1-0-0-cust260.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:00.49 | visik7 | I've imported bookmark from firefox to konqueror but in the bookmark toolbar I see bookmark folder instead of "Bookmark Toolbar Folder" contents of firefox |
| 09:00.53 | visik7 | ho can I enable it ? |
| 09:01.13 | visik7 | np solved |
| 09:01.31 | *** join/#kde bartden (n=bart@d51520AEB.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:02.50 | *** join/#kde grave (n=grave@Q252b.q.pppool.de) |
| 09:02.59 | *** join/#kde drzoot (n=drzoot@60-240-249-77.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:03.28 | visik7 | why javascript in the title bar doesn't work in konqueror ? |
| 09:05.17 | *** join/#kde Asusanator (n=kde@wayax6-173.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:10.52 | *** join/#kde smoosh (n=blackmoo@host29-93.pool8258.interbusiness.it) |
| 09:12.22 | *** join/#kde geko (n=geko@host232-196.pool8710.interbusiness.it) |
| 09:13.04 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@unaffiliated/dsafda) |
| 09:13.10 | *** join/#kde deathkat (n=deathkat@71-36-195-237.blng.qwest.net) |
| 09:13.15 | *** join/#kde pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-13-147.maa.sify.net) |
| 09:13.30 | deathkat | how do i enter the tip and tricks you see at startup without restarting the machine? |
| 09:14.15 | *** join/#kde grave (n=grave@Q252b.q.pppool.de) |
| 09:14.51 | smoosh | i've got a problem with xscreensaver, it is installed, but don't appear nothing in the screen saver configuration applet of kde... |
| 09:15.46 | *** join/#kde wsjunior (i=1000@unaffiliated/wsjunior) |
| 09:19.24 | *** join/#kde trapecista (n=trapecis@198.Red-213-96-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:20.24 | *** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@213083190130.sonofon.dk) |
| 09:20.33 | deathkat | how do i enter the tip and tricks you see at startup without restarting the machine? |
| 09:21.16 | *** join/#kde mdo_ (n=13h7@p508A0C99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:26.56 | *** join/#kde hein (i=sho@konversation/developer/hein) |
| 09:27.07 | visik7 | anyone using kblogger ? |
| 09:27.26 | *** join/#kde cuntuong (n=cuntuong@lapspies36.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 09:29.00 | *** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@tconl172126.tconl.com) |
| 09:30.19 | PhilRod | deathkat: ktips |
| 09:30.58 | *** join/#kde SJr|nx (n=e@S0106001310248d84.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 09:31.08 | StevenR | deathkat: actually it's ktip |
| 09:31.19 | SJr|nx | I know Ih ad this problem like a week ago |
| 09:31.23 | SJr|nx | but now I can't remember the answer |
| 09:31.36 | SJr|nx | in Konquerer previews are not showing up poperly for JPEGs |
| 09:31.55 | SJr|nx | If I look in extensions jpeg matches the png setup, and pngs preview fine |
| 09:32.59 | smoosh | i've got a problem with xscreensaver, it is installed, but don't appear nothing in the screen saver configuration applet of kde... |
| 09:33.14 | *** part/#kde Anon_Away (n=irc@phpBB/support/Anon) |
| 09:34.06 | benJIman | kscreensaver != xscreensaver, kscreensaver can use xscreensavers though |
| 09:34.32 | *** join/#kde jamesots (n=jamesots@88-108-53-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 09:34.58 | benJIman | you need kdeartwork3-xscreensaver or the equivlant package for your distribution to use xscreensavers |
| 09:37.14 | *** join/#kde rdale (n=rdale@39.Red-213-96-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:39.55 | PhilRod | SJr|nx: do you have crossover installed? |
| 09:40.07 | SJr | why yes |
| 09:40.08 | SJr | yes I do |
| 09:40.08 | visik7 | why javascript in the title bar doesn't work in konqueror ? |
| 09:40.11 | SJr | and I just did a repair |
| 09:40.13 | smoosh | benJIman: thanks now it work! |
| 09:40.14 | *** join/#kde Dirk_IIV (n=guss@c-67-191-232-174.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 09:40.14 | SJr | of associations too |
| 09:40.24 | PhilRod | ~crossover-jpg |
| 09:40.26 | apt | If you have problems with JPEGs and have crossover installed, see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.general/13618 |
| 09:40.54 | PhilRod | apparently it's fixed in the latest version |
| 09:41.00 | PhilRod | of crossover, that is |
| 09:46.29 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 09:48.56 | *** join/#kde IceD^ (n=iced@86.57.162.1) |
| 09:49.18 | SJr|nx | Bingo |
| 09:49.26 | SJr|nx | PhilRod in future you can just remove those mime types |
| 09:49.34 | SJr|nx | thats the solution if you read them through |
| 09:49.37 | SJr|nx | thank you very much for the link tho |
| 09:53.10 | visik7 | who suggest me im.flosoft.biz ? |
| 09:55.01 | *** join/#kde otto_ (n=otto@p549FDA2A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:55.52 | PhilRod | SJr|nx: that question has come up a few times - would you like to write up the question and solution for the KDE faq? |
| 09:56.16 | SJr | lol that sounds like I'd have to register an account :P |
| 09:56.25 | PhilRod | if so, you can write it in plain text format, and send it to faq@kde.org or to me at phil@kde.org |
| 09:56.38 | PhilRod | no need to register anything :-) |
| 09:57.46 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-53-195.paradise.net.nz) |
| 09:58.44 | SJr | lol Q) JPEGs no longer preview (and I've installed CrossOver Office) A) Cross Over will create new MIME types that will override the default image/jpeg and image/jpg times. In Konquerer if you go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations. Find the application/x-crossover-jpg and application/x-crossover-jpeg entries, and remove them. Then hit Okay |
| 09:58.48 | SJr | there you go. |
| 09:59.04 | SJr|nx | See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116142 |
| 09:59.59 | SJr | or would you still prefer an E-mail |
| 10:00.32 | PhilRod | that should be ok, I'll copy-paste it somewhere where I'll remember to add it |
| 10:00.38 | SJr | I'll just e-mail it. |
| 10:01.32 | PhilRod | it's ok, I just emailed it to myself |
| 10:01.49 | SJr | oh |
| 10:01.49 | SJr | well |
| 10:01.52 | SJr | its already gone |
| 10:01.56 | *** join/#kde hagabaka (i=500@alchemyst.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu) |
| 10:02.11 | PhilRod | ok, no problem |
| 10:02.11 | *** join/#kde Makineros63 (n=makinero@l04m-212-194-55-58.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 10:02.30 | SJr | Hmmmmm |
| 10:02.41 | SJr | Were you around earlier with my theme problem |
| 10:03.27 | SJr|nx | bumf? |
| 10:03.37 | PhilRod | boring stuff, spiel |
| 10:03.49 | SJr|nx | regarding Cxoffice or a screenshot? |
| 10:04.30 | PhilRod | the faq is licensed under the FDL with no invariant sections. If you don't like your stuff licensed like that, we won't be able to include it |
| 10:04.47 | PhilRod | (I hate dealing with licensing stuff, but unfortunately it's necessary) |
| 10:05.29 | PhilRod | I didn't see your themes problem |
| 10:06.41 | SJr|nx | FDL? |
| 10:06.49 | SJr|nx | Never heard of it |
| 10:07.04 | *** join/#kde otto_ (n=otto@p549FDA2A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:07.05 | SJr|nx | where does it sit on the following scale |
| 10:07.22 | SJr|nx | BSD--------LGPL----------GPL---------MS Licence |
| 10:08.03 | *** join/#kde _bogoMIPS_ (n=_bogoMIP@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 10:10.34 | PhilRod | it's a bit weird - roughly GPL, I guess |
| 10:10.43 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=q@cp336226-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl) |
| 10:11.08 | PhilRod | the debian people had a vote on it recently, and concluded that FDL with no invariant sections was "free enough" for them |
| 10:11.29 | PhilRod | in fact, there's a bit about licensing docs somewhere. Let me find it |
| 10:11.53 | SJr | hmmmmm |
| 10:11.54 | SJr | I'm reading |
| 10:11.58 | SJr | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html |
| 10:12.02 | SJr | but I'm not sure which one it is |
| 10:12.46 | visik7 | nobody know how to run javascript from the url bar ? |
| 10:12.49 | StevenR | SJr: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#DocumentationLicenses and http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html |
| 10:13.04 | PhilRod | http://l10n.kde.org/docs//doc-primer/licenses.html |
| 10:13.06 | SJr | oh |
| 10:13.07 | SJr | yeah |
| 10:13.08 | SJr | okay |
| 10:13.09 | SJr | thats fine |
| 10:13.11 | SJr | I don't care |
| 10:13.28 | SJr | so long as its not some wierd retoric that says anytime someone reads the FAQ I have to pay you or something |
| 10:13.42 | PhilRod | SJr: yeah, that's pretty much my opinion when it comes to licensing, but I understand that some people get fussy about licenses |
| 10:13.53 | SJr|nx | hmmmm bluetooth time |
| 10:14.13 | SJr|nx | kde have any compatibility with bluetooth? |
| 10:14.23 | SJr|nx | err nice little applets that will do my job for me |
| 10:14.28 | visik7 | there is kbluetooth |
| 10:15.04 | visik7 | for me is enough to plug the usb pen and it just works |
| 10:15.10 | PhilRod | kdebluetooth, isn't it? |
| 10:15.16 | SJr|nx | yes apparently it is |
| 10:15.18 | SJr|nx | hmmmm |
| 10:15.21 | SJr|nx | I hope I have kernel support |
| 10:15.57 | visik7 | which distro ? |
| 10:16.21 | SJr|nx | debian |
| 10:16.27 | visik7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.28 | visik7 | dunno |
| 10:16.42 | visik7 | I don't use bt on debian machines |
| 10:16.47 | SJr|nx | hmmmm |
| 10:16.53 | visik7 | I even don't use X |
| 10:17.04 | SJr|nx | Hmmmm |
| 10:17.15 | SJr|nx | where does kwrite get its PHP function list from. |
| 10:22.23 | *** join/#kde mark_alec (n=mark@gentoo/developer/mark-alec) |
| 10:23.38 | *** join/#kde floe (n=konversa@i577B25EB.versanet.de) |
| 10:23.43 | *** join/#kde automat (n=kris@CPE-65-25-214-12.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 10:28.02 | *** join/#kde eisen|zZz (n=eisbaer@xdsl-81-173-142-148.netcologne.de) |
| 10:28.39 | gcbirzan | 27 Mar 13:28:25 ntpdate[11133]: step time server 212.93.137.28 offset -22261.126874 sec |
| 10:28.42 | gcbirzan | Heh. |
| 10:30.45 | *** join/#kde exit_music (n=exit_mus@211.246.157.127) |
| 10:35.19 | *** join/#kde milliams (n=matt@cpc1-horn1-4-0-cust65.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:35.28 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-38-95.paradise.net.nz) |
| 10:35.49 | *** join/#kde hawking (n=hawking@tor/session/x-c9ba6a2742a950d1) |
| 10:36.26 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A7BE7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:37.31 | *** join/#kde HamishTPB (n=hamishtp@bb-87-80-43-35.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 10:37.57 | pinucset | when will kde 3.5.2 be released? it was supposed to be today? |
| 10:39.52 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@2001:6f8:1331:3:fdc7:7d5f:b0c9:6326) |
| 10:42.28 | SJr|nx | gcbirzan what are you doing here? |
| 10:42.49 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-38-95.paradise.net.nz) |
| 10:46.03 | Q-collective | hmm, the kaffeine site reports that the source is in kde extragear now, wil it ever replace kmplayer? :) |
| 10:46.45 | *** join/#kde iblechbot (n=iblechbo@80.81.23.69) |
| 10:49.05 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-38-95.paradise.net.nz) |
| 10:52.06 | *** join/#kde doktoreas (n=geko@host232-196.pool8710.interbusiness.it) |
| 10:53.20 | *** join/#kde hug_ (n=hug@vil93-8-82-245-3-42.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:53.55 | *** join/#kde keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 10:55.45 | *** join/#kde mendred (n=mendred@59.92.62.254) |
| 10:57.42 | *** join/#kde _Iznogood_ (n=iznogood@80.239.44.25) |
| 10:58.42 | Q-collective | how can I use kaffeine instead of kmplayer as my embedded player in konq? |
| 10:59.21 | PhilRod | settings->configure konqueror->file associations, for each video type, change on the embedding tab |
| 10:59.31 | PhilRod | hrm, that's just a guess. I'm not sure if it works |
| 11:00.27 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@unaffiliated/dsafda) |
| 11:01.00 | *** join/#kde corex (n=corex@80.97.137.158) |
| 11:02.22 | mobtek | PhilRod: it worls |
| 11:02.25 | mobtek | works even |
| 11:02.38 | *** join/#kde solaris (n=solaris@p5085610C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:02.42 | mobtek | but kaffeine likes to crash still methinks |
| 11:02.45 | mobtek | haven't tried 0.8 |
| 11:02.52 | mobtek | hence I was using kmplater |
| 11:02.58 | mobtek | kmplayer too |
| 11:03.02 | *** join/#kde Narada (n=Narada@85-133-19-16.stanhope.mezzonet.net) |
| 11:03.50 | Narada | hi guys; my X crashed and now everytime i login to kdm and kde my cpu usage goes really high; any suggestions? top only shows X and kicker; my settings look a bit screwed as well |
| 11:04.35 | PhilRod | Narada: try with a new user. That'll tell you whether it's a config problem |
| 11:04.59 | Narada | hmm good idea |
| 11:05.57 | *** join/#kde gourdin (n=kefka@bdv75-2-82-66-242-118.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:06.17 | gourdin | hithere |
| 11:06.42 | Narada | Okay the new user works fine. |
| 11:06.42 | gourdin | I'd like to script ne task I often do manually with kmail |
| 11:06.50 | Narada | So how do I wipe all configurations for my normal user? |
| 11:07.19 | gourdin | I receive a mail, I copy/paste the source in an empty mail without subject and send this mail to dest@dest.com |
| 11:07.24 | Narada | PhilRod: ^^ |
| 11:07.27 | gourdin | is it possible to script this ? |
| 11:07.40 | gourdin | and to have this script with a right click on a mail ? |
| 11:07.44 | *** join/#kde no_gatez_fan (n=patrick@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 11:07.54 | PhilRod | Narada: rename (don't delete) ~/.kde/ and try again. If that works, we can try narrowing it down |
| 11:08.04 | Narada | k |
| 11:08.05 | PhilRod | I repeat, don't delete ~/.kde |
| 11:08.11 | Narada | okay |
| 11:08.15 | solaris | :) |
| 11:08.23 | PhilRod | gourdin: depends what the task is |
| 11:08.38 | *** join/#kde g8m (n=evil@cp82868-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl) |
| 11:09.04 | gourdin | PhilRod: I just explained it ;) |
| 11:09.16 | gourdin | [2006-03-27 13:07] <gourdin> I receive a mail, I copy/paste the source in an empty mail without subject and send this mail to dest@dest.com |
| 11:10.42 | Narada | PhilRod: That works fine. |
| 11:10.42 | solaris | Anyone of you using XGL? |
| 11:12.25 | *** join/#kde HamishTPB (n=hamishtp@bb-87-80-43-35.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 11:12.46 | PhilRod | gourdin: oh yeah, sorry, missed that |
| 11:13.03 | gourdin | =) |
| 11:13.08 | PhilRod | Narada: but you don't know what the app with the high CPU usage was? |
| 11:13.43 | Narada | PhilRod: OpenOffice I think. Do you think kde was trying to restore my crashed session? |
| 11:13.44 | *** join/#kde darth_chatri (n=aditya@220.225.32.98) |
| 11:13.50 | *** part/#kde darth_chatri (n=aditya@220.225.32.98) |
| 11:14.29 | Narada | Thereby trying to restore openoffice and hence high cpu usage. |
| 11:14.45 | *** join/#kde psychollek (i=adam@c123-4.icpnet.pl) |
| 11:14.54 | Narada | Is there a way to get kde not to restore session perhaps? I can live with a new config. That's not a problem. |
| 11:14.55 | PhilRod | Narada: ah, that would make sense. Restore ~/.kde and rename ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc |
| 11:14.58 | PhilRod | then try again |
| 11:15.08 | PhilRod | that file stores the last saved session |
| 11:15.16 | Narada | Ah okay I will try that now. |
| 11:15.27 | *** join/#kde IceD^ (n=iced@85.195.128.21) |
| 11:15.52 | *** join/#kde no_gatez_fan (n=patrick@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 11:16.25 | PhilRod | gourdin: you could try creating a filter with the action as "forward to" or "redirect to" |
| 11:16.53 | PhilRod | maybe even "pipe through" if you have the "mail" command line app installed and correctly working |
| 11:17.16 | PhilRod | hrm, that last one might not work, since it'll overwrite the mail |
| 11:17.42 | *** join/#kde crashbg (n=crashbg@radobg.com) |
| 11:18.20 | *** join/#kde hug__ (n=hug@vil93-8-82-245-3-42.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:18.31 | Narada | PhilRod: Hmm no still a problem :( |
| 11:18.37 | visik7 | nobody know how to run javascript from the url bar ? |
| 11:19.29 | *** join/#kde marijn (n=marijn@8pc222.sshunet.nl) |
| 11:19.33 | Narada | PhilRod: Maybe I'll just stick to a new config for now :( |
| 11:19.48 | Narada | My virtual terminal cursors are behaving very oddly as well. |
| 11:20.05 | cenuij | Aaaaaaah better |
| 11:20.12 | cenuij | <B Klibido |
| 11:20.15 | marijn | how can you change the default font? |
| 11:20.48 | *** join/#kde nael (n=nael@ras75-1-81-57-62-96.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:21.03 | *** join/#kde _whirm (n=whirm@80.174.186.147) |
| 11:21.04 | marijn | never mind |
| 11:23.51 | *** join/#kde Ash-Fox (i=UNKNOWN@efa61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:23.53 | *** join/#kde dipnlik (n=dipnlik@201-0-25-113.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 11:25.02 | *** join/#kde Chryseus (i=chryse@hell.fiveam.org) |
| 11:25.59 | *** join/#kde Benoni (n=benny@user-210-211-151-83.e7even.com) |
| 11:27.39 | Narada | Hmm. Crap. :( |
| 11:30.12 | *** join/#kde _Iznogood_ (n=iznogood@80.239.44.25) |
| 11:30.32 | PhilRod | Narada: well, I guess you could try the fairly blind method of renaming ~/.kde/share/config, then if that works, rename only half of it, and continue that binary search method until you find the offending file(s) |
| 11:30.59 | PhilRod | nobody ever takes up that suggestion though, so you get to be the first, and tell me if it works :-) |
| 11:31.07 | *** join/#kde tvo (n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl) |
| 11:31.09 | *** join/#kde DexterF (i=1000@p508ECA50.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:31.13 | PhilRod | I still think it's a good idea (potentially) |
| 11:31.21 | *** join/#kde pinotree (n=pino@kde/developer/pino) |
| 11:31.53 | *** join/#kde strankan (n=strankan@c83-251-142-93.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 11:32.13 | *** join/#kde gemidjy (n=gemidjy@62.162.189.220) |
| 11:32.25 | pinotree | hello =) |
| 11:32.38 | GraveDigger | hi pinotree |
| 11:32.39 | GraveDigger | :) |
| 11:39.55 | simian__ | i am trying to insert a picture into a ductument in kword. i want the test to wrap around the picture, not sit under the picture |
| 11:40.12 | simian__ | but i think that i don't understand something todo with frames |
| 11:40.49 | simian__ | can any koffice guru shed some light on the subject? |
| 11:41.05 | *** join/#kde milliams (n=matt@cpc1-horn1-4-0-cust65.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:41.48 | *** join/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 11:43.32 | pinotree | simian__: --> #koffice |
| 11:44.00 | *** join/#kde Rehto_ (n=pasi@195.148.28.49) |
| 11:44.06 | simian__ | pinotree: ty |
| 11:45.09 | *** join/#kde hagayarou (i=500@alchemyst.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu) |
| 11:47.54 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 11:48.01 | *** join/#kde Frederick (n=imanewbi@unaffiliated/frederick) |
| 11:48.40 | *** join/#kde _bogoMIPS_ (n=_bogoMIP@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 11:49.36 | *** join/#kde xroberx (n=rober@126.Red-81-39-250.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:49.39 | xroberx | hi |
| 11:49.49 | xroberx | where's the changelog for 3.5.2 ? :) |
| 11:50.11 | GraveDigger | is 3.5.2 on the ftp's yet? |
| 11:50.17 | visik7 | is out ? |
| 11:50.29 | xroberx | shhh, don't say it too loud :P |
| 11:50.35 | GraveDigger | i also wondered that i have 3.5.2 in the portage tree |
| 11:50.38 | *** join/#kde simmerz (n=simmerz@maccaslav.plus.com) |
| 11:50.42 | GraveDigger | but nowhere the tarballs to be found |
| 11:50.43 | xroberx | yup, it's in portage |
| 11:50.46 | Frederick | folks where in kdevelop I can set the number of spaces in tabs? |
| 11:52.24 | rdale | Settings -> Configure Editor -> Editing |
| 11:53.45 | PhilRod | haha, this happens with every release - for some reason the gentoo packagers put new kde versions in their source tree before they're released, presumably so that you don't have to wait an extra millisecond after it's released |
| 11:53.53 | PhilRod | <insert obvious joke about gentoo users here> |
| 11:54.00 | HamishTPB | O_o |
| 11:54.32 | HamishTPB | PhilRod: we are handsome and witty - I don't know about any jokes... :P |
| 11:56.39 | PhilRod | heh |
| 11:56.42 | PhilRod | !food |
| 11:56.53 | HamishTPB | sounds like a plan :) |
| 11:57.11 | HamishTPB | need to check out the KDE site and see what is new in 3.5.2 as well |
| 11:58.10 | visik7 | is out ? |
| 11:59.15 | *** join/#kde Rehto_ (n=pasi@dasla2849.ulapland.fi) |
| 11:59.16 | Narada | PhilRod: Sorry but I took a fresh config to save time :( |
| 11:59.51 | Narada | PhilRod: lol yeah gentoo's pretty bleeding edge (why; is there a new version out?) |
| 12:00.11 | Narada | Eh? Is 3.5.2 out or something? |
| 12:00.48 | visik7 | no |
| 12:00.50 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: hehe, lol |
| 12:00.51 | visik7 | not on the ftp |
| 12:00.56 | Narada | k |
| 12:01.34 | Narada | Hmm it is indeed on portage. That is weird. |
| 12:01.53 | Narada | And quite insanely early as well. |
| 12:01.57 | *** join/#kde hagabaka (i=500@alchemyst.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu) |
| 12:01.59 | xroberx | gentoo makes me suffer from versionity, i need new versions every day :( |
| 12:02.09 | Narada | lol |
| 12:02.10 | HamishTPB | xroberx: I used to be like that |
| 12:02.11 | *** join/#kde Google_Firefox (n=10373019@IGLD-83-130-36-7.inter.net.il) |
| 12:02.13 | Narada | yeah i know what you mean |
| 12:02.14 | Google_Firefox | instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm |
| 12:02.17 | *** part/#kde Google_Firefox (n=10373019@IGLD-83-130-36-7.inter.net.il) |
| 12:02.22 | Narada | Gah! |
| 12:02.26 | Narada | I hate it when people do that. |
| 12:02.34 | HamishTPB | feck- that ad bot is spamming all over freenode :( |
| 12:02.40 | Narada | Really? |
| 12:02.58 | HamishTPB | yeah |
| 12:03.36 | *** part/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 12:05.36 | *** join/#kde flaccid (n=flaccid@58.169.76.105) |
| 12:06.57 | *** join/#kde lepetitfou (n=lefou@L7440.l.strato-dslnet.de) |
| 12:10.31 | *** part/#kde mserms (n=mark@81.168.98.153) |
| 12:18.22 | *** join/#kde mhterres (n=marcelo@200.208.130.16) |
| 12:18.37 | *** join/#kde psychollek (i=adam@c123-4.icpnet.pl) |
| 12:18.49 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@k-104.vc-graz.ac.at) |
| 12:20.56 | visik7 | how can I enble nfs fileshare ? |
| 12:20.58 | visik7 | on kde ? |
| 12:21.09 | *** join/#kde shinobi2 (i=1000@usrns33.dialup.hawaii.edu) |
| 12:21.14 | visik7 | it's grayied |
| 12:21.26 | shinobi2 | how can i config konsole, so that .bashrc is loaded at startup? |
| 12:21.47 | *** join/#kde gresco (n=gresco@200.44.116.68) |
| 12:23.06 | mhterres | morning |
| 12:23.19 | *** join/#kde lxuser (n=lxuser@dsl71b9143.sdtnet.de) |
| 12:24.20 | *** join/#kde sredna (n=anders@kde/developer/alund) |
| 12:25.52 | *** join/#kde whirm (n=whirm@80.174.186.147) |
| 12:26.38 | *** part/#kde shinobi2 (i=1000@usrns33.dialup.hawaii.edu) |
| 12:28.08 | *** join/#kde ed_ (n=ed@M972P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:30.01 | *** part/#kde Frederick (n=imanewbi@unaffiliated/frederick) |
| 12:31.24 | *** join/#kde sredna (n=anders@kde/developer/alund) |
| 12:37.50 | *** join/#kde ejk (i=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 12:41.11 | *** join/#kde [Bart] (n=bschelst@112-26.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 12:42.43 | *** join/#kde ejk (i=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 12:47.58 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 12:48.26 | *** join/#kde am (n=am@81.2.119.162) |
| 12:53.37 | *** join/#kde Rehto_ (n=pasi@dasla2849.ulapland.fi) |
| 12:55.38 | *** join/#kde estranho (n=diogo@desenvolvimento.cta-rj.com.br) |
| 12:57.01 | *** join/#kde anymo (n=anymo@lns01-1458.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 13:00.34 | *** join/#kde lochjoh (n=lochjoh@chello213047228041.tirol.surfer.at) |
| 13:01.08 | *** join/#kde iblechbot (n=iblechbo@62.216.199.119) |
| 13:04.42 | *** join/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 13:05.11 | wasynyt_away | how do i import kde color scheme to a file so that i can use it another machine |
| 13:05.18 | wasynyt_away | kde 3.5.1 |
| 13:07.09 | *** join/#kde luisblues (n=luisblue@158.Red-83-58-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:07.12 | pinotree | wasynyt: kcontrol -> look & themes -> export scheme to save to file and import scheme to import from file |
| 13:08.24 | *** join/#kde fiorini (n=fiorini@sei.yacme.com) |
| 13:08.31 | *** join/#kde _nadim (n=nadim@lund-juri-sr0-vl107-010.perspektivbredband.net) |
| 13:09.44 | wasynyt | pinotree, i know i can save it, but where does it put that saved file |
| 13:10.44 | *** join/#kde pinucset (n=pinucset@197.Red-80-32-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:10.48 | pinotree | not sure of that, do a find ~/.kde/share/ -iname 'yourname*' |
| 13:10.49 | *** join/#kde GNU_Style (n=GNU_Styl@203.177.244.123) |
| 13:12.11 | wasynyt | i didnt give me anything :S |
| 13:12.18 | wasynyt | man find |
| 13:12.26 | wasynyt | ups |
| 13:15.13 | *** join/#kde Rehto_ (n=pasi@dasla2849.ulapland.fi) |
| 13:16.01 | *** join/#kde iDeJ (n=iDeJ@kss9-d9bf49f0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:16.14 | *** part/#kde jordo23 (n=jmendelb@rrcs-67-52-221-174.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:16.29 | visik7 | sudo mount -t nfs localhost:/home/visi/share/ /mnt/ works nfs://localhost doesn't |
| 13:17.27 | wasynyt | ok now i found it thank you |
| 13:17.40 | *** part/#kde nacer (n=laradji@host33-67.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 13:19.17 | *** join/#kde BlackBsd (n=brian@proactivetechllc.com) |
| 13:19.56 | *** join/#kde nacer (n=laradji@host33-67.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 13:22.43 | *** join/#kde tdonahue (n=tdonahue@208.51.101.201) |
| 13:23.18 | *** join/#kde jordo23 (n=jmendelb@rrcs-67-52-221-174.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:23.50 | *** join/#kde hakbeest (n=marijn@8pc222.sshunet.nl) |
| 13:24.33 | *** join/#kde dhaumann (n=dhaumann@P2113.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 13:25.13 | *** join/#kde sredna (n=anders@kde/developer/alund) |
| 13:25.42 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A7BE7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:28.01 | sredna | Not creating 239784965893545043 empty files in the data directory would be nice too o |
| 13:28.05 | *** join/#kde jeekl (n=marisa@h93n4c1o1104.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 13:30.04 | *** part/#kde hakbeest (n=marijn@8pc222.sshunet.nl) |
| 13:33.19 | *** part/#kde jesusfish_ (n=chatzill@216.16.226.186) |
| 13:34.28 | *** join/#kde Rehto_ (n=pasi@dasla2849.ulapland.fi) |
| 13:35.12 | *** join/#kde New0rder (i=jason@c-68-62-98-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 13:35.14 | *** join/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 13:38.29 | *** join/#kde floe (n=konversa@i577B3035.versanet.de) |
| 13:40.28 | *** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-74-128-98.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 13:41.44 | *** join/#kde Paradosso (n=Paradoss@host245-118.pool874.interbusiness.it) |
| 13:42.30 | *** join/#kde cbr (n=cbr@213-35-221-23-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee) |
| 13:44.19 | *** join/#kde Kris (n=kris@port149.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 13:44.48 | Kris | Hi! |
| 13:45.05 | *** part/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 13:49.30 | *** join/#kde tanghus (n=tol@0x50c79ce7.boanxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:49.40 | PhilRod | hi Kris |
| 13:52.17 | Kris | What happened in here? |
| 13:52.48 | *** join/#kde Distro^Junkie (n=patrick@mctnnbsa29w-156034022073.nb.aliant.net) |
| 13:54.29 | *** join/#kde jq- (n=jquelin@merlin.mongueurs.net) |
| 13:55.26 | *** join/#kde kingb (n=kingb@adsl-84-226-155-139.adslplus.ch) |
| 13:58.24 | *** join/#kde jal (n=JaL@mar92-8-82-234-120-162.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:01.31 | *** join/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 14:01.45 | *** part/#kde kohinoor (n=kohinoor@59.95.211.84) |
| 14:02.11 | *** join/#kde cromo (i=cromo@klej.net) |
| 14:02.25 | cromo | how do I stop a service from a command line? |
| 14:02.48 | cromo | I need to stop kbluetoothd otherwise it won't let me to suspend to disk |
| 14:03.09 | Kris | killall kbluetoothd? I don't know |
| 14:03.16 | Kris | but it is that way you kill X |
| 14:03.45 | cromo | Kris: this is not stopping a service, it's just killing it |
| 14:04.06 | *** join/#kde bUscher- (n=buscher@pD954315C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:04.22 | Kris | cromo, is it not the same? |
| 14:04.27 | cromo | I guess dcop is the one to allow me to stop the services, but I couldn't find anything about it |
| 14:04.37 | Kris | if you kill it will stop, or what? |
| 14:04.58 | cromo | don't ask me |
| 14:05.33 | Kris | ok :p |
| 14:06.01 | *** join/#kde deego (n=user@12.166.244.34) |
| 14:06.10 | *** join/#kde eBug (n=eric@62.235.57.104) |
| 14:06.20 | eBug | what package should i install to have an icon to automagically appear on my kde desktop when i plug in my usb camera ? |
| 14:06.50 | *** join/#kde pinotree_ (n=pino@kde/developer/pino) |
| 14:08.58 | *** join/#kde joscha (n=joscha@p54A94AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:09.05 | *** join/#kde arrinmurr (n=arrinmur@XIV.tun.saunalahti.fi) |
| 14:09.26 | visik7 | nfs kioslave work from root but not from user |
| 14:09.32 | visik7 | how can I get it working ? |
| 14:09.52 | *** join/#kde deego` (n=user@63.126.179.162) |
| 14:11.05 | Kris | visik7: i think you should change your permissions |
| 14:14.01 | visik7 | Kris: of the share ? |
| 14:14.07 | visik7 | Kris: is 777 |
| 14:15.27 | visik7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.27 | Kris | Ok, so it look as i should, I think, gives it some errors? |
| 14:16.03 | visik7 | it says Authorization failed, localhost authentication not supported |
| 14:16.36 | visik7 | tryied also without nothing but async |
| 14:19.02 | *** join/#kde sIbOk (n=sNOUbOR@56.Red-80-36-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:20.20 | jordo23 | What's the nicest newsreader for KDE? |
| 14:20.33 | GraveDigger | akregator |
| 14:20.36 | haakonn | knode |
| 14:20.48 | jordo23 | Not RSS reader....usenet |
| 14:20.50 | lippel | jordo23: define newsreader |
| 14:20.52 | lippel | ok |
| 14:20.58 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
| 14:20.58 | lippel | knode then :P |
| 14:21.08 | *** join/#kde nh (n=prefect@dslb-084-060-116-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:21.11 | jordo23 | Does anyone know a good usenet server to use? |
| 14:21.31 | visik7 | jordo23: the one provided by your isp |
| 14:24.48 | *** join/#kde estranho (n=diogo@desenvolvimento.cta-rj.com.br) |
| 14:25.13 | *** join/#kde Asusanator (n=kde@wayax6-058.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:26.28 | jordo23 | visik7: I can't connect to that server from my workplace, is there another that I can use? |
| 14:26.45 | *** join/#kde pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-71.maa.sify.net) |
| 14:27.16 | *** join/#kde |lostbyte| (n=shadow@adsl18-175.qualitynet.net) |
| 14:27.17 | porkrynde | jordo23: most news servers are not wide open. There are servers that you can pay a subscription to access. |
| 14:27.29 | |lostbyte| | Konqueror does'nt open up ? |
| 14:27.38 | |lostbyte| | any idea's ? |
| 14:28.03 | PhilRod | |lostbyte|: start it from a konsole, see if there's any debug output |
| 14:28.19 | |lostbyte| | only gives two lines.. |
| 14:28.22 | |lostbyte| | QMultiInputContext::changeInputMethod(): index=0, slave=xim |
| 14:28.30 | |lostbyte| | and stops there. |
| 14:28.59 | porkrynde | |lostbyte|: run kdebugdialog and check everything, then rerun. |
| 14:30.19 | |lostbyte| | I checked all and applyed. restarted konqueror from cli and still get that 2 lines. |
| 14:31.09 | PhilRod | sounds like your kde is built without debug info. that's fairly standard |
| 14:31.27 | PhilRod | try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc , then try again |
| 14:31.32 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: Am on mandriva 2006. |
| 14:32.03 | *** join/#kde mendred (n=mendred@59.92.61.232) |
| 14:32.37 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: renamed that to xkonquerorrc, :( still get that 2 lines. ni Window opens. |
| 14:32.50 | |lostbyte| | ni/no* |
| 14:32.58 | PhilRod | hrm |
| 14:33.09 | PhilRod | ps auxww | grep konqueror |
| 14:33.16 | PhilRod | is it actually running, but not showing a window? |
| 14:33.39 | |lostbyte| | shadow 11095 0.0 3.3 33064 17072 ? S 17:02 0:00 konqueror [kdeinit] -session 1014cd7d2d4000113252186200000041700019_1132522497_287056 |
| 14:33.39 | |lostbyte| | shadow 11343 0.0 3.3 33132 17196 ? S 17:16 0:00 konqueror [kdeinit] --silent |
| 14:33.39 | |lostbyte| | shadow 11361 0.0 3.2 32528 16668 ? S 17:17 0:00 konqueror [kdeinit] --silent |
| 14:33.48 | |lostbyte| | 3 results ! |
| 14:33.52 | visik7 | does nfs:/ works from user ? |
| 14:33.56 | visik7 | not from root |
| 14:34.02 | PhilRod | try killing all of those, then start konq again |
| 14:34.08 | |lostbyte| | ok ! |
| 14:34.09 | Goliath23 | is there a "replace in files-tool" in kde? |
| 14:34.20 | PhilRod | Goliath23: kfilereplace will do that, IIRC |
| 14:34.26 | PhilRod | probably in kdeutils |
| 14:34.31 | Goliath23 | ok, thanks |
| 14:34.50 | PhilRod | or find+perl, but I guess you don't want to resort to the CLI :-) |
| 14:35.11 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: killed it wil killall -9 konqueror. |
| 14:35.27 | sredna | Goliath23: Kfilereplace |
| 14:35.28 | PhilRod | SIGTERM would have been better, but too late now |
| 14:35.30 | |lostbyte| | and started konqueror, but still get the same. |
| 14:35.33 | Goliath23 | PhilRod: no, actually kfilereplace looks neat :) |
| 14:36.15 | PhilRod | |lostbyte|: create a new user, try with that user. That'll tell you whether it's a config problem |
| 14:36.16 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-060-204.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 14:36.40 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: you mean ! another user on this same X session ? |
| 14:36.44 | *** part/#kde root (n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-060-204.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 14:37.00 | *** join/#kde ejk (n=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 14:37.11 | PhilRod | create another user on your system (with useradd, or whatever your distro uses). Then log in as that user, and start kde |
| 14:37.35 | PhilRod | if the problem is with your current user's config files, then konq will work for the new user |
| 14:37.42 | PhilRod | so then we'll know it's a problem with config files |
| 14:37.46 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: k ! bee right back ! |
| 14:39.14 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:39.30 | *** join/#kde baloghs (n=baloghs@matbs.atk.u-kaposvar.hu) |
| 14:40.33 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: Konqueror started ! but on the other user ? |
| 14:42.22 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: what should i do to fix this ? |
| 14:42.31 | *** join/#kde _jamesots (n=jamesots@88-108-53-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 14:44.48 | PhilRod | |lostbyte|: you'll need to find the config file that is causing the problem. So, go back to your original user, and find out whether all other kde apps are working |
| 14:44.59 | *** join/#kde psyl0n (n=psyl0n@201-42-126-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 14:45.43 | PhilRod | well, you don't need to test them *all*, but test a few |
| 14:46.54 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: kcalc and k3b works. |
| 14:47.08 | *** join/#kde YggdrasilOS (n=yggdrasi@user-0c6sdn4.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 14:48.50 | PhilRod | try some internet-related app like kmail, knode or konversation/ksirc |
| 14:49.26 | YggdrasilOS | has anyone here had any experience with using an alternate windowmanager within KDE, such as enlightenment? |
| 14:50.09 | PhilRod | never tried it, but it should be possible |
| 14:50.10 | *** join/#kde cd_rom (i=cd_rom@user-3417.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 14:50.19 | PhilRod | export KDEWM=/path/to/desired/wm |
| 14:50.24 | PhilRod | before starting KDE |
| 14:50.31 | PhilRod | or in a script in ~/.kde/env |
| 14:50.33 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 14:50.37 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2558687 |
| 14:50.40 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: kmail works. |
| 14:50.42 | PhilRod | bbiab |
| 14:51.25 | PhilRod | |lostbyte|: ok, here's the procedure I'd suggest: rename ~/.kde/share/config. Try konq again. If it works, there's some file(s) in that directory causing the problem |
| 14:51.50 | |lostbyte| | ok |
| 14:52.13 | PhilRod | then you can rename the directory back, and move half of the files out of it. Try konq again. If it works, the problem must have been in one of those files you moved |
| 14:52.21 | PhilRod | I think you can work it out from there |
| 14:52.44 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: still the same. |
| 14:52.53 | PhilRod | with ~./kde/share/config moved? Hrm |
| 14:53.04 | |lostbyte| | i renamed config and i get the same. |
| 14:53.04 | PhilRod | did you restart KDE after you moved it? |
| 14:53.11 | |lostbyte| | nope ! |
| 14:53.46 | |lostbyte| | do i have to ? |
| 14:54.42 | *** join/#kde juchi (n=juchi@p54952584.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:54.50 | PhilRod | it's worth trying |
| 14:54.59 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: Alright ! brb |
| 15:00.16 | *** join/#kde eBug (n=eric@62.235.57.104) |
| 15:03.21 | *** join/#kde bluesceada (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada) |
| 15:04.02 | *** join/#kde Ci-Dev (n=ci-dev@p54BDF93D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:04.20 | *** join/#kde Agathezol (n=marmon@smtpstatic.blackfoot.net) |
| 15:04.35 | Agathezol | is there a way to make kdm allow root logins (on gentoo if its something non-kde related) |
| 15:04.47 | *** join/#kde CyberSpy (n=cyberspy@cpe-065-191-191-010.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:08.00 | PhilRod | Agathezol: there's probably some key in the config file. Take a look in: 1. The KDM handbook 2. The config page for it in control center 3. $KDEDIR/share/config/kdmrc |
| 15:08.25 | *** join/#kde litb (n=litb@p54B18A17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:09.46 | sredna | Kde is a fucking non-working POS |
| 15:09.48 | sredna | BAH |
| 15:09.56 | *** join/#kde peppelorum (i=peppe@pdpc/supporter/student/peppelorum) |
| 15:10.19 | PhilRod | sredna: having a good day, then, I see |
| 15:10.58 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@82.77.191.69) |
| 15:11.07 | sredna | PhilRod: Every day, KDE prevents me from getting work done. Right now, I try to open a kate session with FTP files, but it fails to ask for the password, and it does not get it from the wallet. |
| 15:11.23 | sredna | PhilRod: How fun is that? Do you know if there is a working editor in gnome maybe? |
| 15:11.35 | sredna | Or even in windows? |
| 15:11.43 | HamishTPB | :O |
| 15:12.03 | root | i need some help on mouting a ntfs partion in slax |
| 15:12.06 | root | please |
| 15:12.12 | *** join/#kde deego` (n=user@12.166.244.34) |
| 15:12.30 | PhilRod | root: ask in #slackware |
| 15:12.33 | visik7 | sredna: I don't get any of your problems |
| 15:12.34 | root | yes |
| 15:12.50 | YggdrasilOS | and don't log into IRC as root, that's just asking for trouble |
| 15:13.07 | sredna | visik7: I obviously does not get them all the time. Otherwise I wouldnt look to KDEs side |
| 15:13.13 | root | ooo sorry ... |
| 15:13.18 | sredna | visik7: But KDE is BOT STABLE |
| 15:13.20 | sredna | NOT |
| 15:13.34 | sredna | Rather the oppersite, given it's random behavior |
| 15:13.55 | *** join/#kde daquino (n=daquino@pool-70-21-175-159.nwrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:14.06 | daquino | where do i get lisa ? |
| 15:14.11 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=Pierre@ALille-251-1-63-176.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:14.30 | vio_undernet | please help me i want to mount a ntfs partion and to be able to write and read on it |
| 15:14.46 | PhilRod | vio_undernet: I already said, ask in #slackware |
| 15:14.56 | PhilRod | or #linuxhelp, or whatever it's called |
| 15:15.14 | vio_undernet | yes |
| 15:15.21 | vio_undernet | slax is based on slackware |
| 15:15.32 | YggdrasilOS | vio_undernet: type /j #slackware and ask there |
| 15:15.39 | vio_undernet | k thans |
| 15:15.46 | YggdrasilOS | this is a channel for KDE-related questions |
| 15:16.02 | vio_undernet | i cant |
| 15:16.04 | HamishTPB | sredna: what version of KDE is that with? |
| 15:16.04 | *** join/#kde George`TW (n=george@59-117-165-11.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 15:16.13 | YggdrasilOS | you can't what? |
| 15:16.15 | YggdrasilOS | type? |
| 15:16.16 | vio_undernet | ##slackware You're banned from that channel |
| 15:16.21 | vio_undernet | :P |
| 15:16.27 | YggdrasilOS | lol |
| 15:16.36 | vio_undernet | yeah lol |
| 15:16.36 | visik7 | sredna: the only problem that I've now with kde 3.5.1 is nfs and some kwin crash |
| 15:16.44 | visik7 | sredna: but no random behaviour |
| 15:16.58 | YggdrasilOS | how did you get yourself banned? |
| 15:17.10 | vio_undernet | can someone help me please in private... |
| 15:17.20 | sredna | HamishTPB: 3.5 branch |
| 15:17.21 | vio_undernet | about the problem mouting a ntfs |
| 15:17.39 | sredna | HamishTPB: But it's not really a new problem, it's since 1996 |
| 15:17.43 | porkrynde | vio_undernet: have you googled it? |
| 15:17.45 | HamishTPB | sredna: oh :/ |
| 15:18.11 | YggdrasilOS | vio_undernet: i'll tell you right now, you're not gonna get read-write support for NTFS in Linux without *major* trouble |
| 15:18.13 | sredna | My current attempt to cure it is dropping gentoo and installing kubuntu instead |
| 15:18.21 | vio_undernet | RTFM i always get from everybody .......... :((((( |
| 15:18.33 | sredna | And dropping compiling kde at all, since I have lost any motivation to work on it for the moment |
| 15:18.43 | YggdrasilOS | the linux-native NTFS driver only supports read-only |
| 15:18.48 | *** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@tconl172126.tconl.com) |
| 15:18.53 | porkrynde | vio_undernet: TFM is there so people will R it. |
| 15:19.13 | *** join/#kde aviad (n=aviad@84.108.80.142) |
| 15:19.26 | YggdrasilOS | there's a way to get readwrite with a wrapper for the win32 driver, but it's unstable, and I really wouldn't reccomend it |
| 15:19.43 | vio_undernet | YggdrasilOS k i get the picture |
| 15:19.50 | YggdrasilOS | you can corrupt your data easily with that |
| 15:19.55 | vio_undernet | no need to explain more |
| 15:19.58 | vio_undernet | ... |
| 15:19.59 | Agathezol | PhilRod: Thanks, key was in kdmrc |
| 15:20.01 | vio_undernet | :) |
| 15:20.31 | YggdrasilOS | and yeah, a simple google search for "ntfs linux" would have told you much the same |
| 15:20.56 | vio_undernet | i need an opinion about kde 3.51 is it transparent .... |
| 15:21.23 | PhilRod | if you mean "does it support translucency?" the answer is yes |
| 15:21.55 | vio_undernet | i have fedora core 5 |
| 15:22.09 | vio_undernet | but ... |
| 15:22.15 | vio_undernet | no translucency there |
| 15:22.38 | PhilRod | googling should turn up some relevant information for you |
| 15:23.01 | porkrynde | PhilRod: are there specific compile flags to get that working? Or does it just work (TM)? |
| 15:23.37 | *** join/#kde Damien (n=Damien@p54998C0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:23.44 | PhilRod | porkrynde: translucency? should work if you have sufficiently recent X and accelerated drivers. There's a good howto on the gentoo wiki, IIRC |
| 15:23.58 | PhilRod | ~translucency |
| 15:24.00 | apt | translucency is probably http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=x-6.8-xcomposite-howto |
| 15:24.00 | porkrynde | Cool. |
| 15:24.06 | PhilRod | bah, that's a stupid old link |
| 15:24.42 | vio_undernet | lol i am a beginner how can i do all that |
| 15:24.45 | PhilRod | http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency |
| 15:24.48 | PhilRod | read that |
| 15:24.56 | PhilRod | apt: no, translucency is http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency |
| 15:24.59 | apt | PhilRod: okay |
| 15:24.59 | vio_undernet | i just nedd something really eazy |
| 15:25.18 | George`TW | hey Phil |
| 15:25.26 | PhilRod | vio_undernet: get a distro that includes support for it then. Probably kubuntu does. Maybe SuSE too |
| 15:25.35 | PhilRod | hiya George`TW |
| 15:25.42 | YggdrasilOS | Fedora Core is a rather bad distro to start out on...it needs a lot of TLC to get it up and running smoothly |
| 15:25.57 | vio_undernet | kubuntu i have |
| 15:26.26 | YggdrasilOS | use that then, it'll probably come with transparency support already configured |
| 15:26.33 | vio_undernet | no translucensy there .. :P |
| 15:26.43 | vio_undernet | and suse ... |
| 15:26.50 | vio_undernet | i don`t think so ... |
| 15:26.59 | YggdrasilOS | vio_undernet: well, have you set up the right video drivers? |
| 15:27.07 | vio_undernet | yes |
| 15:27.13 | vio_undernet | nvidia in fedora core 5 |
| 15:27.20 | vio_undernet | but .... |
| 15:27.24 | vio_undernet | none ... |
| 15:27.30 | vio_undernet | no setiing |
| 15:27.33 | vio_undernet | nothing |
| 15:27.41 | YggdrasilOS | also understand that applications have to support transparency on their own |
| 15:27.54 | daquino | can someone tell me where to get lisa ? |
| 15:28.07 | YggdrasilOS | if KDE supports it, then you can make your panel and menus transparent, but that won't affect the programs you run |
| 15:28.26 | vio_undernet | firefox ...? |
| 15:28.29 | vio_undernet | support ? |
| 15:28.41 | vio_undernet | or krusader ?? |
| 15:28.58 | YggdrasilOS | firefox doesn't support that by default |
| 15:29.09 | *** join/#kde xroberx (n=rober@126.Red-81-39-250.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:29.23 | YggdrasilOS | in fact... the only way I've ever gotten that to be transparent is with Xgl, and that's a *huge* pain to set up right with KDE |
| 15:29.37 | *** join/#kde simmerz (n=simmerz@maccaslav.plus.com) |
| 15:29.42 | vio_undernet | xgl i heard about it ... |
| 15:29.47 | YggdrasilOS | it's not even stable yet, so I'm staying clear for now |
| 15:29.53 | vio_undernet | from novell rigt |
| 15:29.59 | vio_undernet | it just beta |
| 15:30.08 | YggdrasilOS | try late alpha |
| 15:30.14 | vio_undernet | :) |
| 15:30.29 | YggdrasilOS | beta implies that it's actually functional, and just needs the bugs ironed out |
| 15:30.40 | vio_undernet | yes |
| 15:30.51 | vio_undernet | i`ve heard about a distro |
| 15:30.53 | YggdrasilOS | right now, segfaults and extremely bizarre behavior are the norm |
| 15:30.56 | vio_undernet | with this xgl |
| 15:31.08 | vio_undernet | tehnology |
| 15:31.35 | porkrynde | vio_undernet: My coworker came in with a live-cd demo but it was gnome based. |
| 15:31.43 | YggdrasilOS | well, I've gotten Xgl working (partly) in Gentoo Linux, and there's a pretty simple way to get it working in Ubuntu as well |
| 15:32.08 | YggdrasilOS | yeah, using Xgl with KDE involves pulling in parts of Gnome to do the window drawing |
| 15:32.18 | YggdrasilOS | it's an ugly kludge |
| 15:32.24 | vio_undernet | lol i don`t underdstand you guys |
| 15:32.42 | vio_undernet | speak for the simple man to understant ... :P |
| 15:32.56 | PhilRod | vio_undernet: xgl isn't ready for most people to use yet |
| 15:32.57 | YggdrasilOS | well, in that case... |
| 15:33.09 | YggdrasilOS | stay away from Xgl, it's not ready yet |
| 15:33.18 | *** join/#kde cbr (n=cbr@213-35-221-23-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee) |
| 15:33.24 | vio_undernet | k |
| 15:33.30 | vio_undernet | ... :) |
| 15:33.30 | YggdrasilOS | i plan to steer clear, until KDE support is added |
| 15:33.54 | *** join/#kde jamesots_ (n=jamesots@88-108-53-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:34.31 | vio_undernet | what distro do you recommand to use .... with ntfs support ... ??? |
| 15:34.39 | vio_undernet | and translucency |
| 15:34.50 | vio_undernet | i use slax now |
| 15:34.54 | vio_undernet | it`s great ... |
| 15:34.58 | vio_undernet | and free .. |
| 15:35.28 | YggdrasilOS | vio_undernet: most of the good distros are free... |
| 15:36.00 | vio_undernet | so what do you recommand ... |
| 15:36.15 | YggdrasilOS | i'd recommend Ubuntu or Kubuntu for the newbies, and Gentoo for the more experienced people who like to tweak |
| 15:36.34 | *** join/#kde sam^ (n=met@p548EFD99.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:36.44 | vio_undernet | o . o . o what about superkaramba |
| 15:36.47 | vio_undernet | ... |
| 15:36.56 | YggdrasilOS | ...never heard of it |
| 15:37.02 | vio_undernet | lol |
| 15:37.16 | sredna | Gentoo is not working |
| 15:37.25 | sredna | And it's hell maintaining |
| 15:37.32 | YggdrasilOS | be more specific, Gentoo is not working for you |
| 15:37.41 | YggdrasilOS | it's working just fine for me |
| 15:37.49 | sredna | Mumble |
| 15:37.58 | vio_undernet | YggdrasilOS thank`s man .... |
| 15:38.07 | vio_undernet | for the help .... |
| 15:38.08 | YggdrasilOS | np |
| 15:38.45 | *** part/#kde vio_undernet (n=root@82.77.191.69) |
| 15:39.00 | sredna | I'll drop gentoo today, and reconcider if I ever get a computer fast enough to build a full kde install in less than a day |
| 15:39.25 | *** part/#kde cromo (i=cromo@klej.net) |
| 15:39.28 | YggdrasilOS | sredna: it goes somewhat faster if you just emerge kdebase-startkde, and pull in only the packages you use |
| 15:39.45 | YggdrasilOS | as opposed to compiling monolithic KDE |
| 15:40.37 | *** join/#kde |lostbyte| (n=shadow@adsl32-74.qualitynet.net) |
| 15:40.44 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 15:41.02 | *** join/#kde kronoz (n=kronoz@ACD6135A.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:41.07 | |lostbyte| | PhilRod: :) |
| 15:41.18 | pinotree | PhilRod: :) |
| 15:41.26 | pinotree | (following the hype) |
| 15:41.28 | peterjk | anyone know of a way to use a hotkey to fire up new email using kmail |
| 15:41.46 | |lostbyte| | I ended up removing .kde and everything worked. only lost my kde settings. |
| 15:41.52 | |lostbyte| | but i set it back :) |
| 15:41.56 | deego | does anyone use korn? everytime i log back in to a new session, korn fails to show up on the panel, moreover, it loses all settings |
| 15:41.56 | |lostbyte| | pinotree: :P |
| 15:42.02 | |lostbyte| | THAnx |
| 15:42.20 | deego | and, if not korn, what other biff (new mail notification) program do you all use? |
| 15:42.58 | YggdrasilOS | um...i usually just leave Kmail running in the bg... |
| 15:43.26 | YggdrasilOS | or Gaim will poke me when i get new mail |
| 15:43.38 | sredna | ... and if someone comes up with a frontend to emerge that allows managing the use flags pr package withouth all that typing that would be a gain too |
| 15:43.52 | sredna | pinotree: What would make etch better than kubuntu? |
| 15:43.56 | |lostbyte| | cya Guys ! |
| 15:43.58 | *** part/#kde |lostbyte| (n=shadow@adsl32-74.qualitynet.net) |
| 15:43.59 | pinotree | sredna: kuroo |
| 15:44.06 | pinotree | or whatever is called |
| 15:44.09 | *** join/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@kde/aseigo) |
| 15:44.13 | pinotree | it's on kde-apps |
| 15:44.26 | sredna | pinotree: Kuroo did not allow me to check tue use flags pr package last time I looked at it |
| 15:44.35 | *** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@pc-viii-43.ruc.dk) |
| 15:45.22 | YggdrasilOS | sredna: porthole is useful for that |
| 15:45.35 | sredna | But currently my main problem is that if I want to keep my install up to date, my CPU will be busy compiling all the time, so I don't want to use gentoo for now anyways |
| 15:45.38 | aseigo | pinotree: yo |
| 15:45.38 | YggdrasilOS | it lets you see what useflags are available for each package, at least |
| 15:45.49 | sredna | Is it a kde app? |
| 15:45.56 | YggdrasilOS | nah |
| 15:46.05 | YggdrasilOS | but it shows up in the kde menu once you emerge it |
| 15:46.23 | sredna | Well, I dont, since I have done my last emerge on this box |
| 15:46.35 | YggdrasilOS | it's faster than emerge -s foo if you're looking for an unfamiliar package |
| 15:46.35 | xroberx | sredna: you don't need to update every day, just do it once a week, it's more than enough |
| 15:47.06 | sredna | xroberx: If I update once a week my old box can't keep up I'm afraid |
| 15:47.10 | YggdrasilOS | yeah, seriously, just pop an entry into crontab to emerge --sync && emerge -u world every sunday at midnight, or something |
| 15:47.17 | peterjk | can shortcut key be used to get new email, using KMAIL |
| 15:47.47 | sredna | Emerge sync is a BAD idea, it takes 4+567098709876030435. I only do that when I know that I will be away from the computer for > 3 hrs |
| 15:48.05 | YggdrasilOS | o_O |
| 15:48.06 | sredna | peterjk: C-l if you have kmail in focus |
| 15:48.10 | *** join/#kde bulibuta (n=bulibuta@80.96.109.236) |
| 15:48.28 | YggdrasilOS | it takes that long to sync? you must have a lousy connection |
| 15:48.37 | xroberx | sredna: it takes 12 minutes (max) in my computer and it's not very fast (1'4 Ghz centrino) |
| 15:48.47 | peterjk | sred: is there not a way - with kmail in systray |
| 15:48.48 | xroberx | sredna: being the average 6 to 8 mins |
| 15:49.08 | sredna | No, I have a 1024/128 adsl connection. The time is spent locally jabbing around in the MASSIVE number of files portage keeps |
| 15:49.19 | *** join/#kde parso (n=parso@dyn-83-156-84-206.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 15:49.24 | YggdrasilOS | mine takes a grand total of 3min 30sec, but i'm running an AMD64 system, so I've got a bit of an edge there |
| 15:49.47 | sredna | Well, give me a amd 64 with a resonable speed and I'll reconsider |
| 15:49.51 | xroberx | sredna: if you think portage keeps a massive number of packages, go take a look at the debian repository :P |
| 15:50.05 | YggdrasilOS | ya, seriously, apt-get si huge |
| 15:50.18 | sredna | xroberx: Just wait, next week there wil be individual ebuilds pr file |
| 15:50.28 | xroberx | heh |
| 15:51.01 | sredna | When does someone come up with a networked package manager? |
| 15:51.14 | sredna | It really can't be that hard! |
| 15:51.22 | xroberx | sredna: the problem is that portage uses plain files |
| 15:51.30 | xroberx | sredna: it should use a lightweight db |
| 15:51.31 | YggdrasilOS | sredna: portage can be set up to use distcc for compiling, if that's your trouble |
| 15:51.52 | sredna | YggdrasilOS: What would be the gain with one box? |
| 15:51.54 | YggdrasilOS | a lot of the blame has to rest with the rsync protocol, as it's got a fairly large amount of overhead |
| 15:51.59 | YggdrasilOS | well...none |
| 15:52.03 | sredna | ... |
| 15:52.06 | YggdrasilOS | the idea is to spread out the work |
| 15:52.33 | *** join/#kde mariux (n=mariux@112.84-48-48.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:52.43 | YggdrasilOS | and turning on ccache can speed up recompilations, when they're necessary |
| 15:53.06 | *** join/#kde xxenon (i=xxenon@81.13.239.65) |
| 15:53.10 | YggdrasilOS | anyway, if you don't like dealing with portage, go grab Kubuntu or something and be happy |
| 15:53.12 | *** join/#kde citr0n (n=jko@0x535ba984.aaanxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:53.22 | sredna | Well, I don't with this old box |
| 15:53.46 | YggdrasilOS | yah, grab a Kubuntu install DVD |
| 15:54.12 | *** join/#kde teatime (n=jens@81-232-50-200-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:54.19 | YggdrasilOS | the more stuff you can pack onto local storage beforehand, the better off you'll be, with a low-end machine |
| 15:54.49 | YggdrasilOS | or heck, if you want a really dirt-simple installation, use Knoppix :P |
| 15:55.08 | sredna | I'd probably be less annoyed if I had a newer one, but I don't and it's nowhere near the top of my wishlist, since I tend to just use my PC for writing documents, doing DTP layout, web design and such lately. No need to throw money after a newer PC for that |
| 15:55.45 | YggdrasilOS | yeah...Kubuntu's your best bet |
| 15:55.58 | YggdrasilOS | minimal hassle, and it's got a fairly large repository |
| 15:56.20 | YggdrasilOS | i use it myself on boxen that i have to drool-proof |
| 15:56.45 | parso | Hello ! |
| 15:56.53 | sredna | What is gentoo good for if you can't use it on any box!? |
| 15:57.13 | porkrynde | sredna: check out conary |
| 15:57.22 | sredna | porkrynde: What is that? |
| 15:57.22 | parso | Hello ! |
| 15:57.29 | sredna | Hellp parso ;) |
| 15:57.32 | YggdrasilOS | Gentoo's for when you want to eke out every last drop of speed from your hardware |
| 15:57.35 | porkrynde | wiki.conary.com networked package manager |
| 15:57.36 | sredna | O |
| 15:57.45 | *** join/#kde keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:57.47 | *** join/#kde IceD^ (n=iced@85.195.128.7.satgate.net) |
| 15:58.04 | *** join/#kde BlackBsd (n=brian@proactivetechllc.com) |
| 15:58.10 | YggdrasilOS | and btw, there's nothing *compelling* you to update all the time |
| 15:58.24 | YggdrasilOS | if you want a really stable machine, get it working the way you like and stop |
| 15:58.40 | *** join/#kde jeekl (n=marisa@h93n4c1o1104.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 15:58.45 | xroberx | YggdrasilOS: Gentoo is also for when you just want KDE installed (try that in say Fedora) |
| 15:58.53 | sredna | porkrynde: Unless it is used by some distro it's useless -- I'm NOT going to spend 304987509675 learning something just for fun at the moment, the summer is coming up and the place to be will be outside |
| 15:59.02 | GraveDigger | xroberx: or suse... |
| 15:59.09 | porkrynde | sredna: It's used by rPath Linux |
| 15:59.22 | xroberx | most distros tend to mix Kde and Gnome, and that's something i can't stand |
| 15:59.23 | sredna | porkrynde: Never heard of that |
| 15:59.39 | YggdrasilOS | xroberx: Kubuntu is entirely KDE-based |
| 15:59.55 | porkrynde | sredna: We're working on that. |
| 15:59.59 | xroberx | YggdrasilOS: are you sure ? is it 100% gnome free ? :) |
| 16:00.26 | GraveDigger | xroberx: most distros simple want to provide "known shit" to people coming from other os's ... and most windows idiots simply WANT firefox and xchat and are not interested in good alternatives |
| 16:00.32 | YggdrasilOS | well, it's got the gtk hooks in case you want to use an app that needs them, but it doesn't install any of gnome's WM stuff |
| 16:01.05 | sredna | xroberx: There is not really a reason not to use gtk apps inside kde or vice verca, although sometimes the load of the extra services started seems a bit heavy. Kde tends to be worst in that respect I believe. |
| 16:01.05 | YggdrasilOS | the whole point of Ubuntu and Kubuntu is to provide one option that works for everything |
| 16:01.17 | daquino | where do i get the lisa daemon ? |
| 16:01.56 | *** join/#kde _keng48_ (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:01.57 | YggdrasilOS | i like several of the Gnome apps, i just loathe their WM |
| 16:02.04 | GraveDigger | sredna: its about compatibility and interprocess communication - this reduces the greater that mixture gets |
| 16:02.16 | porkrynde | daquino: kdenetwork |
| 16:02.18 | sredna | daquino: If you installed kdenetwork you should have it |
| 16:02.52 | YggdrasilOS | OTOH, i'm not too terribly thrilled with the KDE WM either, at the moment |
| 16:03.02 | xroberx | anyway, i think it's not good to mix kde and gnome apps. If windows has something good, that's the unified interface |
| 16:03.11 | GraveDigger | YggdrasilOS: thrilled by kwin? how comes? |
| 16:03.12 | GraveDigger | oO |
| 16:03.12 | *** join/#kde q3xr2 (n=josep@164.Red-83-35-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:03.31 | *** join/#kde Bonkie (n=bonkie@161-175.241.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:03.36 | YggdrasilOS | eh, it just seems kinda bloated |
| 16:03.45 | *** join/#kde StB (n=me@dslb-084-057-003-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:04.01 | YggdrasilOS | and there's not enough eye-candy to justify that |
| 16:04.01 | *** part/#kde StB (n=me@dslb-084-057-003-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:04.19 | sredna | GraveDigger: My personal dislikings with the feww gtk apps I use are mainly the file dialog and the inconsistence with regard to GUI design. No reliable shortcut schemes etc. And of course I'd love for them to work better with KDE, since that is my main environment. |
| 16:04.35 | *** join/#kde _Iznogood_ (n=iznogood@80.239.44.25) |
| 16:04.41 | daquino | well when i run lisa its not starting it tells me to run --help |
| 16:04.49 | daquino | i know you just run it i bet it cant find the config file |
| 16:04.52 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: so set $KDEWM and use a window manager that you like |
| 16:04.56 | daquino | is there a config file hanging out somehwere ? |
| 16:05.00 | xroberx | sredna: i'm sure there are kde alternatives to the gtk applications you use |
| 16:05.08 | YggdrasilOS | PhilRod, i shall, once i finish recompiling modular KDE |
| 16:05.17 | sredna | Kwin -- apart form the random crashing -- is one of the best parts of KDE imo |
| 16:05.32 | YggdrasilOS | so far, I'm liking enlightenment the best |
| 16:05.56 | sredna | xroberx: SVG drawing? Pixmap drawing? They are YEARS behind. |
| 16:06.14 | xroberx | sredna: they ? who ? |
| 16:06.19 | porkrynde | xroberx: inkscape and gimp? |
| 16:06.20 | daquino | whrre is the lisa default config file ? |
| 16:06.26 | xroberx | mmm |
| 16:06.28 | deego` | YggdrasilOS: thanks |
| 16:06.33 | *** join/#kde WindowsUninstall (n=WindowsU@host25-115.pool8250.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:06.42 | *** join/#kde bulibuta (n=bulibuta@80.96.109.236) |
| 16:06.43 | xroberx | well, i have to admit gimp is more functional than krita at the moment |
| 16:06.51 | *** join/#kde radfoj (n=radfoj@klient129.kserver.cz) |
| 16:07.00 | YggdrasilOS | deego, um, okay... |
| 16:07.00 | sredna | xroberx: There is no kde vector drawing app that lets you do even simple things without major hazzle. And krita can't undo 75% of its actions. |
| 16:07.10 | xroberx | sredna: there is karbon |
| 16:07.18 | sredna | Karbone is merely a joke |
| 16:07.24 | xroberx | heh |
| 16:07.31 | YggdrasilOS | that's the weird thing i'm noticing... |
| 16:07.54 | YggdrasilOS | KDE's got a better WM than Gnome, but Gnome has all the good apps |
| 16:08.06 | *** join/#kde Hokinon (n=Hokinon@unaffiliated/hokinon) |
| 16:08.06 | xroberx | all ? omg |
| 16:08.20 | porkrynde | f-spot, beagle, banshee all top notch |
| 16:08.22 | YggdrasilOS | i didn't mean that literally |
| 16:08.34 | porkrynde | And C#/mono |
| 16:08.40 | YggdrasilOS | perhaps i should say they have more good apps than KDE |
| 16:08.41 | *** join/#kde stagger (n=StaGGerL@ave222.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:08.50 | sredna | Wrong |
| 16:09.05 | xroberx | anyway, The GIMP is not a Gnome app |
| 16:09.16 | YggdrasilOS | i know that much |
| 16:09.24 | xroberx | nor firefox |
| 16:09.25 | YggdrasilOS | i'm talking about stuff ilke GAIM and GRip |
| 16:09.27 | sredna | Nothing in gtk or gnome matches the apps that I use most -- kmail, konqueror, kate |
| 16:09.40 | sredna | Or konsole, not to be forgotten |
| 16:09.47 | xroberx | sure |
| 16:09.47 | YggdrasilOS | and a lot of the 3rd party apps tend to use the GTK framework |
| 16:10.12 | YggdrasilOS | like GIMP, Firefox, and such |
| 16:10.30 | porkrynde | gaim and grip are both gtk. Not Gnome. |
| 16:10.33 | sredna | Hopefully the improved kdelibs for kde4 will make it more easy to use KDE |
| 16:10.46 | YggdrasilOS | what do you think GTK stands for? |
| 16:10.54 | pinotree | Gimp ToolKit |
| 16:10.55 | xroberx | Gimp Tool Kit |
| 16:11.02 | sredna | I dont know what grip is |
| 16:11.06 | daquino | do i even need lisa if im just looking to use konq with smb ? |
| 16:11.14 | porkrynde | sredna: cd ripper |
| 16:11.27 | sredna | Nothing indicates to me that gaim is better than kopete |
| 16:11.28 | pinotree | audiocd:// |
| 16:11.38 | *** join/#kde k4i (n=k4i@217.117.75.124) |
| 16:11.43 | YggdrasilOS | ah...so it does... |
| 16:11.47 | porkrynde | gnome is built on gtk like kde is built on qt. |
| 16:11.51 | sredna | audiocd:// is by far enough for my needs in that respect |
| 16:11.52 | YggdrasilOS | well, don't i have egg on my face |
| 16:11.55 | rdale | C#/mono isn't anything to do with Gnome, only the language bindings are |
| 16:12.02 | pinotree | sredna: try kaudiocreatorù |
| 16:12.04 | k4i | re all |
| 16:12.04 | pinotree | -ù |
| 16:12.07 | porkrynde | rdale: any kde bindings for the same? |
| 16:12.31 | pinotree | pyQt, pyKDE, ruby-kde |
| 16:12.33 | YggdrasilOS | C# is Micro$oft's creation, as it happens |
| 16:12.38 | sredna | I dont rip a CD more than once every 3 years pinotree. |
| 16:12.44 | rdale | yes, I'm working on some, but I don't think they'll be done until kde4 now |
| 16:12.55 | pinotree | kjsembed |
| 16:13.03 | YggdrasilOS | i'd prefer it if they added CD-ripping support to amaroK |
| 16:13.27 | YggdrasilOS | and file transcoding, i haven't found a good Linux app to do that yet |
| 16:13.39 | YggdrasilOS | *good, flexible Linux app |
| 16:13.42 | pinotree | "transcoding"? |
| 16:13.54 | YggdrasilOS | changing from one audio format to another |
| 16:14.12 | YggdrasilOS | like going from FLAC to MP3 or AAC, for loading onto my iPod |
| 16:14.16 | SimAtWork | YggdrasilOS: do that will cause loss |
| 16:14.18 | SimAtWork | well ok, not from flac |
| 16:14.21 | xroberx | YggdrasilOS: there ir transcode and mencoder |
| 16:14.29 | pinotree | YggdrasilOS: mencoder |
| 16:14.31 | YggdrasilOS | i'm talking GUI |
| 16:14.40 | sredna | I'd love to see an application that could deprecate slocate, and which would work on the fly instead of the massive slocate updating. It should be GUI independant, so it could be used form cli too. I'm told that tenor/kat aims to become that. |
| 16:14.50 | sredna | Kmencoder |
| 16:14.55 | *** join/#kde Billthe4th (n=Billthe4@hallenclose.plus.com) |
| 16:15.22 | xroberx | YggdrasilOS: well, there are some kommander scripts out there |
| 16:15.36 | YggdrasilOS | doing transcoding from a konsole window is a pain, and i don't feel like writing up shell scripts for procedures I might go through once every 4 months |
| 16:15.42 | lippel | YggdrasilOS: audiocd:/ |
| 16:16.16 | *** join/#kde hunt0r (n=kvirc@mnch-d9bdd2fc.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:16.29 | YggdrasilOS | the scripts might be a feasable workaround, but I'd like to see that support built into amaroK itself |
| 16:16.34 | YggdrasilOS | more robust, that way |
| 16:16.58 | YggdrasilOS | that's the one area in which iTunes remains superior...it makes transcoding easy |
| 16:17.20 | lippel | YggdrasilOS: have you tried audiocd:/ in konqueror? |
| 16:17.43 | lippel | shipped in kdemultimedia |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#kde annma (n=annma@modemcable074.30-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:19.21 | sredna | Hi annma |
| 16:19.33 | annma | hi |
| 16:20.07 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 16:21.05 | SimAtWork | annma: ! |
| 16:21.08 | SimAtWork | long time no see |
| 16:21.09 | SimAtWork | how are you? |
| 16:21.17 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: you can probably do that transcoding with a servicemenu |
| 16:21.20 | PhilRod | ~servicemenus |
| 16:21.22 | apt | i heard servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 16:21.27 | annma | SimAtWork: i had a baby! |
| 16:22.06 | PhilRod | annma: heya! all's well with you and the baby, I hope |
| 16:22.55 | annma | yes! |
| 16:23.01 | annma | thanks |
| 16:23.31 | *** join/#kde GNU_Style (n=gfx@203.177.244.123) |
| 16:23.31 | PhilRod | anyone feel like taking a look at a bug? It's an easy one: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124299 |
| 16:23.50 | PhilRod | works for me, but not the reporter |
| 16:24.43 | *** join/#kde Craig (n=Craig@host86-142-85-157.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:25.19 | lippel | PhilRod: doesn't work here either |
| 16:25.32 | lippel | maybe it depends on the locale settings? |
| 16:26.06 | radfoj | hi, why kmail and akregator behaves different ... and they can be used inside kontact ... e.g. opening links in background with kmail but in foreground from akregator ... or why arent feeds locked, like in kmail .. everyday I scramble them with my mouse (doesnt happen in kmail) |
| 16:26.18 | PhilRod | lippel: ah, good idea. en here. What about you? |
| 16:27.01 | sredna | annma: Really? Another child? Congratulations! |
| 16:27.12 | annma | sredna: yes, #5 |
| 16:27.13 | xroberx | mmm, f is unicode 0066, # is unicode 0023, b is unicode 0062, so i think it's ok |
| 16:27.15 | annma | a girl |
| 16:27.23 | pinotree | sredna: now, she did the a complete indoor football team |
| 16:27.25 | lippel | PhilRod: english language plus german country settings |
| 16:27.30 | annma | sredna: you don't read my blog!!! |
| 16:28.00 | sredna | annma: I've a complicated relation with KDE at the moment, so I missed the kdeplanet for a while |
| 16:28.18 | annma | there's a pic on my blog |
| 16:28.44 | xroberx | PhilRod: it's very odd because all those characters (# b f) are part of ASCII, so they are all the same in every charset |
| 16:28.50 | annma | when is kde 3.5.2 due? |
| 16:28.50 | Chryseus | PhilRod: doesn't work here either.. though you'll get it "working" if you turn "descending" on |
| 16:29.02 | *** join/#kde drbob (n=drbob@ip110-32-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl) |
| 16:29.03 | xroberx | annma: it's already in gentoo! :) |
| 16:29.18 | Chryseus | I mean.. everybody should check that too |
| 16:29.23 | annma | gentoo! |
| 16:29.26 | *** join/#kde _Iznogood_ (n=iznogood@80.239.44.25) |
| 16:29.26 | sredna | .. and looks |
| 16:29.39 | radfoj | xroberx: but tarballs are missing |
| 16:29.53 | xroberx | oops |
| 16:30.26 | xroberx | well, i've read the changelog |
| 16:30.30 | sredna | annma: You will be pleased to hear that I'm dropping gentoo for a while, switching to kubuntu. I've had it with all the compiling untill I get a more up to date PC. |
| 16:30.40 | *** part/#kde q3xr2 (n=josep@164.Red-83-35-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:30.58 | xroberx | sredna: kubuntu is a debian fronted, mind you :P |
| 16:31.12 | sredna | xroberx: And? |
| 16:31.23 | annma | sredna: is kubuntu good? |
| 16:31.26 | xroberx | mmm, nothing :S |
| 16:31.46 | sredna | annma: I hope so, but the bit I've tried it (using a live cd) it looks fine |
| 16:32.21 | kronoz | imo kanotix is alot better than kubuntu |
| 16:32.32 | sredna | annma: You girl looks very lovely. I'm envious you know, because I have no kids and I really like them! |
| 16:32.57 | PhilRod | xroberx: does it work for you? |
| 16:33.00 | annma | she is adorable, yes |
| 16:33.05 | xroberx | PhilRod: let me see |
| 16:33.12 | PhilRod | Chryseus: what are your language settings? |
| 16:33.13 | annma | sredna: there's still time |
| 16:33.34 | sredna | ;) |
| 16:33.51 | sredna | kronoz: Explain why it is better please |
| 16:33.52 | Chryseus | PhilRod: en_US |
| 16:34.13 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 16:34.39 | kronoz | sredna: quicker to install, faster, installs a fuller system than kubuntu does, with a more standard like kde |
| 16:34.39 | PhilRod | Chryseus: so does it only work for you with "sort descending"? |
| 16:34.48 | sredna | kronoz: The german homepage is a clear disadvantage |
| 16:35.02 | sredna | The more standard like kde is a plus |
| 16:35.16 | sredna | Why do you think it is faster? |
| 16:35.33 | *** join/#kde Tonglebeak (n=aaron@dyn-170-247-30.myactv.net) |
| 16:35.40 | kronoz | sredna: there is a language chooser thing on homepage |
| 16:36.04 | xroberx | PhilRod: mmm, # is ignored if you set sort by name and ignore capitalization but not if you set sort by name taking capitalization into account |
| 16:36.08 | Chryseus | PhilRod: Well I meant that if there's only two files everybody should check in which direction they are sorting because it changes the result |
| 16:36.10 | kronoz | sredna: i'm not sure why i think it is faster |
| 16:36.16 | Tonglebeak | i wiped out kde and recompiled it kdebase-startkde on gentoo, and now i'm getting this error message every first time i try accessing the start menu, per session |
| 16:36.20 | Chryseus | PhilRod: but yes.. it shows "right" with descending |
| 16:36.26 | PhilRod | Chryseus: oh yeah, I didn't think of that, duh |
| 16:36.30 | *** join/#kde tbscope (n=tbscope@26-58.241.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:36.31 | *** join/#kde citr0n (n=jko@0x535ba984.aaanxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 16:36.32 | Tonglebeak | lemme get screenshot |
| 16:36.37 | PhilRod | I should have said to try with three files |
| 16:36.48 | sredna | kronoz: What are the main differences with KDE? |
| 16:36.59 | Tonglebeak | http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1246/kdeerror3cu.jpg |
| 16:37.10 | PhilRod | xroberx: very strange - it works with case sensitive and case insensitive here. Did I already ask your language settings? |
| 16:37.18 | sredna | I know that kubuntu have a non-standard kde control center, but apart from that? |
| 16:37.25 | *** join/#kde rpinheiro (n=rpinheir@200.190.167.216) |
| 16:37.38 | xroberx | PhilRod: nope, but they are es_ES.UTF-8 |
| 16:38.09 | kronoz | sredna: the kmenu is different |
| 16:38.23 | kronoz | sredna: more catagories and stuff |
| 16:38.46 | sredna | kronoz: Does kanotix come with a GUI package manager that works well? |
| 16:39.11 | kronoz | sredna: no, but apt-get isn't really that difficult |
| 16:39.20 | kronoz | sredna: you could install one though |
| 16:39.20 | sredna | No |
| 16:39.29 | sredna | And yes |
| 16:39.36 | kronoz | sredna: it has synaptics |
| 16:39.57 | kronoz | sredna: but i don't consider that very good |
| 16:40.30 | sredna | From the brief look I had at adept it looked fine |
| 16:40.40 | *** join/#kde _Iznogood_ (n=iznogood@80.239.44.25) |
| 16:40.43 | SimAtWork | annma: !!! congrats on the baby! |
| 16:40.46 | SimAtWork | annma: boy or girl? |
| 16:40.48 | kronoz | sredna: agreed adept is quite good |
| 16:40.52 | annma | girl, SimAtWork |
| 16:40.52 | SimAtWork | annma: isn't that your third? |
| 16:40.58 | annma | my 5th |
| 16:41.03 | sredna | kronoz: Can I install adept in kanotix? |
| 16:41.05 | annma | 4 girls and 1 biy |
| 16:41.08 | annma | boy |
| 16:41.12 | rpinheiro | tarde ALL |
| 16:41.20 | lippel | poor boy :P |
| 16:41.22 | SimAtWork | 5th! |
| 16:41.23 | SimAtWork | my gosh |
| 16:41.26 | kronoz | sredna: yeah it is in the repos |
| 16:41.27 | SimAtWork | how doyou find time to code!? |
| 16:41.33 | *** join/#kde Craig_ (n=Craig@host86-137-71-138.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:41.35 | xroberx | PhilRod: same happends with en_US.UTF-8 |
| 16:41.39 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 16:41.45 | xroberx | s/happends/happens/ |
| 16:41.54 | annma | SimAtWork: presently i don't code! |
| 16:42.11 | sredna | kronoz: I read a review that claims that kanotix is knoppix on steroids. But last time I tried knoppix, the K menu was very bad. Imho, a default KDE K menu is the best. |
| 16:42.30 | kronoz | sredna: the system installed by kanotix is mainly debian sid |
| 16:43.06 | sredna | kronoz: So it comes with the weird debian menu? |
| 16:43.22 | SimAtWork | i just read this article that made my stomach churn. about this windows guy who set up a 1tb server using linux... but he made like 40 30gb partitions and he didn't use raid and well |
| 16:43.25 | SimAtWork | he was just an idiot |
| 16:43.50 | PhilRod | xroberx: what distro? |
| 16:44.03 | kronoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.08 | xroberx | PhilRod: Gentoo |
| 16:44.29 | PhilRod | xroberx: ok |
| 16:44.36 | sredna | kronoz: Semi transperance can be configured away, I'm more worried of the menu structure. |
| 16:44.39 | PhilRod | thanks to all for trying |
| 16:44.47 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=Pierre@ALille-251-1-63-176.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:48.07 | kronoz | sredna: menu -> http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot17vy.png |
| 16:49.15 | cbr | kronoz: woow that is crowded.. do you really make use of all those apps? |
| 16:49.17 | *** join/#kde wolffc (i=wolff@dslb-084-063-013-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:49.33 | peterjk | does anyone know anything about QUANTA |
| 16:49.46 | *** join/#kde pwuertz (n=pwuertz@dslb-084-058-046-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:49.46 | kronoz | cbr: no i don't, their just there *i might need them* :) |
| 16:50.04 | cbr | hehe |
| 16:50.08 | kronoz | cbr: most were installed by default |
| 16:50.10 | xroberx | kronoz: you are missing kmldonkey though |
| 16:50.15 | *** join/#kde mdo (i=proxy@194.242.112.100) |
| 16:50.21 | cbr | go get it :p |
| 16:51.00 | kronoz | done! |
| 16:52.41 | Tonglebeak | http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1246/kdeerror3cu.jpg <--- why does that occur the first time i try to open the k menu, per session? it only happens once per session |
| 16:53.26 | *** join/#kde Hoki (n=Hokinon@lanser.plus.com) |
| 16:53.59 | *** join/#kde xanax` (n=Visiteur@81.255.126.9) |
| 16:54.00 | *** join/#kde mdo (n=13h7@p508A0C99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:54.01 | xanax` | hello |
| 16:54.45 | *** join/#kde metalfan (n=metalfan@port-212-202-85-224.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 16:54.50 | kronoz | hey |
| 16:54.50 | metalfan | hi |
| 16:56.26 | metalfan | my minimal kde install likes to be advanced with zip integration in konqueror, right click on a zip file and choose extract to current dir would be very nice...what packages are related to zip integration on konqueror? |
| 16:56.33 | *** join/#kde Tim_Thaler (n=Thaler@lo-0.caesar2.telehouse.ddkom.net) |
| 16:57.47 | xroberx | metalfan: take a look at 'ark' |
| 16:58.17 | metalfan | xroberx, ark can work with zip as can karchiver....but whats about the integration? |
| 16:58.43 | xroberx | mmm, no idea i always use command line tools |
| 16:58.46 | PhilRod | Tonglebeak: go to "system:/" in konqueror. Do you get an error? What distro are you using? |
| 16:58.59 | *** part/#kde stagger (n=StaGGerL@ave222.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:59.13 | Tonglebeak | i don't have konqueror install |
| 16:59.18 | Tonglebeak | this is the barebones of kde that i have installed |
| 16:59.20 | Tonglebeak | gentoo amd64 |
| 16:59.43 | PhilRod | metalfan: IIRC ark puts right-click-menu entries. You can create your own with servicemenus: |
| 16:59.45 | PhilRod | ~servicemenus |
| 16:59.51 | apt | hmm... servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 16:59.52 | PhilRod | ~split-ebuilds |
| 16:59.54 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
| 16:59.57 | PhilRod | Tonglebeak: ^^^^ |
| 17:00.03 | PhilRod | or try #gentoo-kde |
| 17:00.13 | *** join/#kde dfeist (n=dfeist@pD9E3937B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:00.27 | *** join/#kde athey (n=athey@62.53.218.37) |
| 17:00.35 | *** join/#kde Old--man (n=Old--man@netv-net3674.unl.edu) |
| 17:00.43 | *** join/#kde straw (n=strawman@stjhnbsu84w-156034188128.nb.aliant.net) |
| 17:00.51 | *** join/#kde marseillai (n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-80-66.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:00.53 | *** part/#kde Tonglebeak (n=aaron@dyn-170-247-30.myactv.net) |
| 17:01.25 | marseillai | hi! i'm looking for krfb connection's log. do you know where they are ? |
| 17:01.35 | *** join/#kde Sho_ (i=sho@konversation/developer/hein) |
| 17:01.39 | metalfan | PhilRod, thx |
| 17:01.43 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:02.12 | metalfan | PhilRod, ark didn't put right click menus on my sys... |
| 17:02.17 | *** join/#kde _StarScream (n=am@87.114.22.166) |
| 17:04.49 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:05.21 | luksan | can somebody please tell me why kompmgr won't recognize my Composite extension? |
| 17:05.46 | *** join/#kde GraveDig1er (n=grave@Q1a83.q.pppool.de) |
| 17:06.34 | *** join/#kde tottoro (n=tottoro@KHP059141138085.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 17:06.45 | *** join/#kde _StarScream (n=am@87.114.22.166) |
| 17:07.07 | SimAtWork | luksan: maybe it's not on? |
| 17:07.10 | *** join/#kde _pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-65.maa.sify.net) |
| 17:07.40 | *** join/#kde malph (n=malph@191.44.100-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 17:07.52 | *** part/#kde marseillai (n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-80-66.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:08.07 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:09.01 | straw | its very depressing that kweather does seem to do celcius :( |
| 17:09.13 | luksan | SimAtWork: no, it will work, because if I try running xcompmgr it works |
| 17:09.31 | luksan | this is very frustrating |
| 17:13.00 | metalfan | where can i get more information about kdeaddons-kfile-plugins ? |
| 17:13.19 | *** join/#kde GNU_Style (n=GNU_Styl@203.177.244.123) |
| 17:13.52 | *** join/#kde mdo_ (n=13h7@p508A24E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:14.19 | *** join/#kde lefter (n=lefter@176-2.wias-berlin.de) |
| 17:17.36 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 17:19.12 | *** join/#kde rares000 (n=kvirc@69-182-197-239.adsl.snet.net) |
| 17:19.18 | *** join/#kde _pradeepto (n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-13-53.maa.sify.net) |
| 17:21.43 | *** join/#kde jong (n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl) |
| 17:22.14 | *** join/#kde Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-1a5f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:28.39 | *** join/#kde sredna (n=anders@kde/developer/alund) |
| 17:29.02 | *** join/#kde Skiff (n=Skiff@cpe-72-225-160-116.si.res.rr.com) |
| 17:30.22 | *** join/#kde estranho (n=diogo@desenvolvimento.cta-rj.com.br) |
| 17:30.47 | *** join/#kde Armi^ (n=ArmiDuct@co-c-3c14d.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:30.55 | *** join/#kde jong (n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl) |
| 17:33.17 | *** join/#kde d0rt (n=ni@cderr3.simons-rock.edu) |
| 17:33.55 | *** join/#kde SimAtWork (n=thesimki@S01060004e2dc2f2b.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 17:41.24 | *** join/#kde krousty (n=krousty@lan31-2-82-224-70-129.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:43.10 | *** join/#kde gizmo75 (n=titi@244.156.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 17:48.09 | *** join/#kde iDeJ (n=iDeJ@kss9-d9bf49f0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:48.21 | *** join/#kde Hokinon (n=Hokinon@unaffiliated/hokinon) |
| 17:50.41 | *** join/#kde tn (n=tn@DSL01.83.171.157.161.NEFkom.net) |
| 17:51.21 | *** part/#kde tn (n=tn@DSL01.83.171.157.161.NEFkom.net) |
| 17:52.45 | *** join/#kde eisen (n=eisbaer@xdsl-81-173-142-148.netcologne.de) |
| 17:55.33 | *** join/#kde _StarScream (n=am@87.114.29.68) |
| 17:56.07 | *** join/#kde rolfmeyer (n=rolf@e176174089.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:57.51 | *** join/#kde Belegdol (n=jsikorsk@212.191.172.124) |
| 17:59.36 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@adsl-ull-13-187.41-151.net24.it) |
| 18:00.21 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:00.45 | Cicciux | so, when's kde4 coming out? |
| 18:02.08 | gizmo75 | hello, |
| 18:02.41 | mhterres | aseigo: any previsions for kde4 ? |
| 18:02.54 | aseigo | Cicciux: when it's ready ... |
| 18:03.01 | mhterres | hehheee |
| 18:03.08 | aseigo | Cicciux: tech previwes probably come out in the fall |
| 18:03.09 | *** join/#kde leif_dyvik (n=leif@84-217-69-156.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 18:03.10 | aseigo | er, previews |
| 18:03.21 | xanax` | mhterres : check the mockups of kde-look.org |
| 18:03.32 | mhterres | I'll take a look |
| 18:03.37 | xanax` | "KDE4 brainstorm" |
| 18:03.41 | aseigo | xanax`: those are hardly official ... |
| 18:03.50 | aseigo | rather the random ideas of kde users |
| 18:03.58 | xanax` | i know but there's too few at the moment about KDE 4 |
| 18:04.03 | mhterres | aseigo: are you coming to ifsf in Brazil next month ? |
| 18:04.04 | aseigo | some are pretty nice, but none are actually done by people working on features in kde4 |
| 18:04.16 | aseigo | mhterres: in theory, yes |
| 18:04.23 | mhterres | why in theory ? |
| 18:04.30 | aseigo | xanax`: too few? how many should there be? |
| 18:04.56 | aseigo | mhterres: i don't have my flight itinerary yet, though that's supposedly being worked out |
| 18:05.14 | mhterres | hmmm, I understand |
| 18:05.36 | *** join/#kde Billthe4th (n=Billthe4@hallenclose.plus.com) |
| 18:06.00 | aseigo | mhterres: once that's completed, then i'll be able to say unequivocally, "yes." |
| 18:06.08 | mhterres | yes |
| 18:06.14 | *** part/#kde leif_dyvik (n=leif@84-217-69-156.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 18:06.21 | *** join/#kde _Dom (n=Dom@edx194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:06.55 | mhterres | aseigo: but is this depending of what ? you or the organization ? |
| 18:07.12 | aseigo | xanax`: it's a bit hard to show things before they are there to be seen ... and given that we have limits to our manpower, i think we are better served getting the tech done first and the screenshots for the public after, no? =) |
| 18:07.16 | *** join/#kde ceppo (n=sml@a80-186-48-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:07.23 | aseigo | xanax`: i understand it's annoying to have to wait, but that's how it works... |
| 18:07.30 | aseigo | mhterres: the organization... |
| 18:07.38 | mhterres | hmmm |
| 18:08.19 | xanax` | yep :) |
| 18:08.28 | gizmo75 | I have a "DCOPServer self-test failed." with user and root. Kde and kde's application don't launch any more failing an this error. I have all the library, check with ldd, dependency seems good for apt, none of solution find on the net works. Is there anything to do for making dcopserver more verbose? |
| 18:11.35 | *** join/#kde kman___ (n=kman@86.121.5.216) |
| 18:11.56 | *** join/#kde joscha (n=joscha@p54A94AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:12.50 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-060-204.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 18:12.56 | *** part/#kde root (n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-060-204.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 18:13.35 | *** join/#kde bUscher (n=buscher@pD954315C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:14.12 | *** join/#kde StevenR (n=foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:19.40 | *** join/#kde car-diag (n=car-diag@213-238-107-100.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 18:19.47 | *** join/#kde _bogoMIPS_ (n=_bogoMIP@cpe-069-132-015-252.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 18:20.45 | car-diag | :) |
| 18:21.14 | car-diag | hello i've some questions... |
| 18:21.34 | car-diag | how run gg on my linux console..? |
| 18:21.35 | *** join/#kde GerbilSoft (n=gerbilso@c-69-137-128-178.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:22.22 | *** join/#kde Belegdol (n=jsikorsk@212.191.172.124) |
| 18:22.35 | *** join/#kde NullAcht15 (n=NullAcht@dslb-082-083-224-037.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:24.50 | *** join/#kde Julianyus (n=Julian@81-203-80-171.user.ono.com) |
| 18:25.36 | *** part/#kde tottoro (n=tottoro@KHP059141138085.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 18:25.58 | Julianyus | hi |
| 18:26.19 | *** join/#kde kronoz (n=kronoz@ACD6135A.ipt.aol.com) |
| 18:27.27 | mebsd | what's gg |
| 18:28.59 | car-diag | gg = gadugadu.. you know..? |
| 18:30.09 | *** join/#kde theobroma (n=theobrom@pool-71-112-58-199.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 18:30.35 | porkrynde | I don't even know if kopete handles gadugadu |
| 18:32.32 | pinotree | yep, it does |
| 18:33.13 | *** join/#kde sIbOk (n=sNOUbOR@56.Red-80-36-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:37.25 | *** join/#kde bjantscher (n=bjantsch@M2575P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 18:38.29 | *** join/#kde nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:41.07 | *** join/#kde Diavolo (n=Diavolo@Ub6f8.u.pppool.de) |
| 18:41.21 | *** join/#kde bUscher (n=buscher@pD954315C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:41.31 | *** part/#kde Diavolo (n=Diavolo@Ub6f8.u.pppool.de) |
| 18:41.33 | *** join/#kde barismetin (n=baris@81.214.38.13) |
| 18:42.17 | *** join/#kde K1LOS (n=K1LOS@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-16.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 18:42.37 | K1LOS | hello, can somebody give me some info on making a video dvd with k3b? or any other application if you recommend one |
| 18:42.49 | K1LOS | i have avi files i want to burn and be able to watch on my dvd player |
| 18:43.01 | car-diag | a wogole ktos jestz poslki..? |
| 18:43.06 | car-diag | z polski? |
| 18:43.07 | K1LOS | how do i go about that? k3b wants me to seperate video_ts and audio_ts, i don't know how |
| 18:43.33 | gizmo75 | kilos look for transcode |
| 18:43.34 | *** join/#kde aep (n=aep@p54B8CA03.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:43.48 | car-diag | porkrynde what's kopete? |
| 18:44.17 | car-diag | 3poznan |
| 18:44.23 | car-diag | #poznan |
| 18:44.36 | K1LOS | kopete is a messenger program that connects to msn, yahoo, irc, icq, etc |
| 18:44.46 | K1LOS | its very useful, i use it |
| 18:44.49 | *** join/#kde gem|djy (n=gemidjy@62.162.188.254) |
| 18:45.50 | *** join/#kde Exis (n=bart@pdpc/supporter/active/Exis) |
| 18:46.19 | *** join/#kde ponto (n=ponto@p5087E80C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:46.24 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:47.01 | car-diag | ok, thanks... :) |
| 18:48.09 | *** join/#kde aep (n=aep@p54B8CA03.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:48.55 | *** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@dsl-38-118.dsl.netsource.ie) |
| 18:49.10 | *** join/#kde peterjk (n=peterjk@62-30-78-9.cable.ubr02.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:57.08 | *** join/#kde bamared (n=ralph@adsl-81-146-157.mgm.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:58.11 | *** join/#kde feindbild (n=iostream@tor/session/x-227ebb4cb98cd93b) |
| 18:59.47 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 19:04.05 | *** join/#kde Belegdol (n=jsikorsk@212.191.172.124) |
| 19:04.48 | *** join/#kde dse0504 (n=desterki@gw.fmgtech.com) |
| 19:09.20 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A7B5B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:11.47 | *** join/#kde kika (n=kika@200-168-36-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 19:12.14 | *** join/#kde trumee (n=trumee@sora.mt.ic.ac.uk) |
| 19:12.48 | *** join/#kde _kika (n=kika@200-168-36-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 19:13.36 | *** part/#kde _kika (n=kika@200-168-36-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 19:13.42 | *** part/#kde kika (n=kika@200-168-36-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 19:13.45 | *** join/#kde visik7 (n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 19:14.40 | *** join/#kde nael (n=nael@ras75-1-81-57-62-96.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:15.57 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 19:17.40 | *** join/#kde warnet (n=warnet@210.23.66.18) |
| 19:18.41 | *** join/#kde kirun (n=kirun@kirun.plus.com) |
| 19:20.10 | *** join/#kde rares000 (i=foobar@66-159-183-238.adsl.snet.net) |
| 19:20.29 | *** join/#kde mariux (n=mariux@112.84-48-48.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:20.38 | *** join/#kde pinucset (n=pinucset@197.Red-80-32-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:20.44 | *** join/#kde Frost^ (n=sweiss@CBL217-132-81-181.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 19:20.57 | pinucset | when will be kde 3.5.2 be released? it was supposed to be today, isn't it? |
| 19:21.05 | mariux | how can i search though all the files i have open in kate at once? |
| 19:21.18 | porkrynde | pinucset: soon. Packagers are working on it now. |
| 19:21.44 | *** join/#kde Diavolo (n=Diavolo@Ub6f8.u.pppool.de) |
| 19:21.58 | *** part/#kde bamared (n=ralph@adsl-81-146-157.mgm.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:22.34 | mhall | What's the name of the environment variable to set if you have installed some KDE libraries in an alternate path? I am trying to test amarok SVN. |
| 19:23.50 | pinotree | KDEDIRS |
| 19:23.58 | *** join/#kde Belegdol (n=jsikorsk@212.191.172.124) |
| 19:24.06 | mhall | pinotree: thanks! |
| 19:24.32 | porkrynde | Sadly noone's told the kde-packagers list when the actual release is to be. |
| 19:24.33 | *** join/#kde sylvian (n=marisa@h93n4c1o1104.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 19:24.34 | mhall | pinotree: are the default dirs implied to be included already, and I just add non-default? |
| 19:24.51 | *** join/#kde georges (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 19:24.52 | pinotree | no, you have to add all |
| 19:25.45 | tech9iner | hello pinotree |
| 19:25.50 | pinotree | moin |
| 19:26.29 | mhall | pinotree: are these high-level, like /usr and /usr/local, or low-level, like specific lib directories? |
| 19:26.48 | pinotree | high and low |
| 19:26.53 | pinotree | example: |
| 19:27.10 | pinotree | KDEDIRS=/opt/kde:/usr |
| 19:27.18 | mhall | ok easy enough |
| 19:27.41 | mhall | so KDEDIRS=/usr/local:/usr would work if I installed an app into /usr/local (to follow Debian tradition) |
| 19:27.58 | pinotree | yup |
| 19:28.15 | pinotree | don't forget to run kbuildsycoca after that |
| 19:28.33 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@adsl-ull-13-187.41-151.net24.it) |
| 19:28.34 | *** join/#kde andz (i=andz@dslb-084-056-021-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:28.38 | *** join/#kde Asusanator (n=kde@wayax7-a087.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 19:28.41 | mhall | pinotree: thanks |
| 19:28.47 | pinotree | np |
| 19:29.53 | *** join/#kde DemonThing (i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing) |
| 19:30.22 | mhall | pinotree: How do I get rid of "kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'" |
| 19:30.31 | mhall | pinotree: I have a truckload of those. |
| 19:30.44 | pinotree | don't think you can... |
| 19:30.51 | *** join/#kde marcus_2k (n=marcus@p548D136C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:30.52 | pinotree | after all, they are only warnings... |
| 19:31.03 | marcus_2k | hello |
| 19:31.16 | mhall | darn |
| 19:31.49 | marcus_2k | how can I take a video in the dektop background |
| 19:31.54 | marcus_2k | +? |
| 19:32.32 | *** join/#kde visik7 (n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 19:33.26 | *** part/#kde barismetin (n=baris@81.214.38.13) |
| 19:34.29 | *** join/#kde egon_spengler (n=egon@pool-71-98-89-64.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:35.07 | *** join/#kde pinotree_ (n=pino@kde/developer/pino) |
| 19:35.22 | *** join/#kde gerr (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 19:35.58 | *** part/#kde Diavolo (n=Diavolo@Ub6f8.u.pppool.de) |
| 19:37.04 | *** join/#kde BASEman (n=patrick@cable-212.76.233.231.coditel.net) |
| 19:44.38 | *** join/#kde aleku (n=SpecK@151.80.0.226) |
| 19:47.05 | *** join/#kde EvilGuru (n=freddie@margaret2708.plus.com) |
| 19:47.24 | *** join/#kde doc_tomoe (n=thrasher@p549AB7E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:51.50 | *** join/#kde leonard (n=leonard@86.125.59.133) |
| 19:53.05 | GraveDigger | hmm... why is it that difficult to move desktop icons from one screen to another in xinerama mode? |
| 19:55.43 | *** join/#kde kanttu (n=kanttu@rk3-45-5.tky.hut.fi) |
| 19:57.11 | *** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@213083190130.sonofon.dk) |
| 19:59.18 | *** join/#kde _mo (n=mo@p508D51D5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:59.50 | _mo | good evening |
| 20:00.42 | *** part/#kde marcus_2k (n=marcus@p548D136C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:07.16 | *** join/#kde FrostByte (n=frostbyt@cpe-024-074-100-139.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 20:07.19 | *** join/#kde cuntuong (n=cuntuong@p549A2737.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:08.05 | FrostByte | anyone know where to find update-desktop-files? I upgraded to KDE 3.5.1 and I get a conflict of this file, but yet I can not seem to find it. |
| 20:10.17 | *** join/#kde d0rt (n=ni@64.209.120.135) |
| 20:11.08 | *** join/#kde mhall (n=mhall@uop-9-213.pacific.edu) |
| 20:11.54 | GraveDigger | hmm... why is it that difficult to move desktop icons from one screen to another in xinerama mode? |
| 20:13.20 | *** join/#kde tty56_ (n=johannes@p54A7960C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:14.39 | Julianyus | bye |
| 20:14.46 | *** join/#kde Trevelyan (n=TJ@unaffiliated/trevelyan) |
| 20:15.13 | *** join/#kde tstaerk (n=staerk@p54A967AA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:15.36 | *** join/#kde YggdrasilOS (n=yggdrasi@user-0c6sdn4.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:16.09 | *** join/#kde sharkk (n=sharkk@adsl-ull-33-208.41-151.net24.it) |
| 20:16.48 | *** join/#kde iDeJ (n=iDeJ@kss9-d9bf4aaa.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:17.54 | *** join/#kde veton (n=veton@87.65.150.63) |
| 20:18.45 | *** join/#kde tty56__ (n=johannes@p54A79B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:18.57 | *** join/#kde straw (n=strawman@stjhnbsu84w-156034188128.nb.aliant.net) |
| 20:19.41 | *** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@dsl-38-118.dsl.netsource.ie) |
| 20:20.04 | aleku | how do I add a line in .xinitrc to make a program to start with other credencials?what will it look like? |
| 20:20.17 | *** part/#kde FrostByte (n=frostbyt@cpe-024-074-100-139.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 20:22.16 | tstaerk | aleku, what do you mean "with other credentials" ? |
| 20:22.27 | tstaerk | aleku, why don't you try Autostart ? |
| 20:22.55 | aleku | :) seems easyer |
| 20:23.08 | aleku | I want to start some programs like root |
| 20:23.18 | tstaerk | aleku, kdesu or sudo |
| 20:23.47 | aleku | thanks! |
| 20:25.18 | *** part/#kde veton (n=veton@87.65.150.63) |
| 20:25.54 | *** join/#kde tsubasa (n=tsubasa@ABordeaux-156-1-50-184.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:25.56 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A78BF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:26.41 | aleku | kdesu -u root -c app, but the pass? |
| 20:26.41 | *** join/#kde feindbild (n=iostream@tor/session/x-4ea07045c0a9d4fd) |
| 20:26.58 | tstaerk | aleku, you are asked for it |
| 20:27.13 | *** join/#kde dcnstrct (n=pimp@c-24-30-24-53.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:27.14 | *** join/#kde squid0 (n=squid0@dsl-145-17-216.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 20:27.19 | squid0 | hi |
| 20:27.35 | dcnstrct | hi, does the Umbrello UML modeler software come with KDE nowadays ? |
| 20:27.49 | squid0 | how do i install a new window decoration theme in kde? i can't seem to find that option in the system settings app |
| 20:27.49 | dcnstrct | if so what kde package does it come bundled with ? |
| 20:27.54 | pinotree | dcnstrct: kdesdk |
| 20:28.02 | aleku | isn't there a way to avoid me filling the pass dialog every time the computer starts? |
| 20:28.10 | pinotree | squid0: you have to cpmpile and install it |
| 20:28.22 | tstaerk | aleku, what do you want to do ? |
| 20:28.25 | dcnstrct | pinotree, perfect just what I was looking for! thanks |
| 20:28.25 | squid0 | pinotree: ok, thanks |
| 20:28.54 | *** join/#kde gerr135 (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 20:29.16 | aleku | start a program when kde starts, as root, without filling pass fields |
| 20:29.27 | *** join/#kde espresso (n=espresso@adsl-69-231-173-45.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 20:29.35 | espresso | is it possible to view quicktime movies on kaffeine? |
| 20:29.36 | *** join/#kde Pupeno (n=Pupeno@80-102-197-199.bcn1.dialup.uni2.es) |
| 20:29.44 | tstaerk | aleku, set the uid bit ? |
| 20:29.47 | *** join/#kde RizeNine (n=RizeNine@159.218.3.30) |
| 20:29.53 | tstaerk | suid, I mean |
| 20:30.29 | porkrynde | aleku: sudo allows a NOPASSWD option |
| 20:30.30 | aleku | ok |
| 20:30.43 | porkrynde | setuid means that anyone can run it as root. |
| 20:31.04 | tstaerk | yes! That is important. |
| 20:31.51 | aleku | well, if someone hacks in I'm fried |
| 20:32.06 | tstaerk | aleku, so try sudo |
| 20:32.16 | PhilRod | espresso: if you have the correct codecs installed |
| 20:32.29 | aleku | I will:) Thanks! |
| 20:33.18 | porkrynde | Sudo allows you to set NOPASSWD on that one command for your user. |
| 20:33.28 | porkrynde | And then prompt for passwords for all other sudo commands. |
| 20:33.31 | porkrynde | Pretty flexible. |
| 20:33.56 | tstaerk | aleku, porkrynde the config is in /etc/sudoers |
| 20:33.58 | *** part/#kde dcnstrct (n=pimp@c-24-30-24-53.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:34.35 | porkrynde | I use visudo to edit it as it checks syntax so you don't shoot yourself in the foot. |
| 20:34.48 | aleku | :) |
| 20:35.37 | tstaerk | there is a good howto: how to shoot yourself in the foot with different programming languages. |
| 20:35.47 | tstaerk | ... in the web. Cool. |
| 20:36.48 | *** join/#kde tty56_ (n=johannes@p54A7B221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:39.27 | *** join/#kde cesco (n=cesco@d81-211-181-223.cust.tele2.it) |
| 20:40.03 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 20:41.03 | YggdrasilOS | is there a way to get flash movies playing in Konqueror? |
| 20:41.27 | *** join/#kde gerr135_ (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 20:41.57 | *** join/#kde tty56__ (n=johannes@p54A7BD5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:42.12 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 20:42.15 | *** join/#kde gandalf (n=gandalf@85.104.128.148) |
| 20:42.25 | eisen | YggdrasilOS: they work fine here. |
| 20:42.55 | YggdrasilOS | well, i installed the binary netscape-flash plugin, but Konqueror doesn't recognize it |
| 20:43.33 | YggdrasilOS | and gplflash is sucking horribly |
| 20:44.02 | eisen | does it appear in under settings->plugins ? |
| 20:44.36 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 20:44.39 | *** join/#kde fmeazza (n=fmeazza@host223-85.pool8248.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:44.42 | YggdrasilOS | there's no plugins entry in the settings menu |
| 20:45.18 | YggdrasilOS | i look in Settings -> Extensions, and all i see is the Text-to-Speech extension |
| 20:45.36 | eisen | sorry, settings -> configure konqueror. |
| 20:46.31 | aleku | thanks dudes, it works!!! |
| 20:47.16 | *** join/#kde IceD^ (n=iced@86.57.161.170) |
| 20:47.19 | tstaerk | aleku, glad to hear that |
| 20:47.53 | YggdrasilOS | which tab in the configure window? |
| 20:48.02 | aleku | yup, I emptyed my gun but it works, gonna reboot to see the damage I did, thanks again |
| 20:48.06 | *** join/#kde Zalamander (n=zal@unaffiliated/zalamander) |
| 20:48.22 | *** join/#kde superstoned (n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 20:48.36 | eisen | plugins |
| 20:48.43 | YggdrasilOS | there is no plugins tab |
| 20:48.56 | PhilRod | gentoo problem |
| 20:49.05 | Zalamander | I'm connecting to a remote shell app with konsole, and the app requires that I send an "F1" to exit. I can't figure out how to do this with konsole. I've tried various Keyboard options, but nothing gets me a real "F1". Any hints? |
| 20:49.10 | PhilRod | IIRC |
| 20:49.14 | YggdrasilOS | erk |
| 20:49.18 | YggdrasilOS | fixable? |
| 20:49.20 | *** join/#kde kelvie_ (n=kelvie@d154-20-151-237.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 20:49.31 | eisen | well, my kde is german so I'm guessing the english words. |
| 20:49.31 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: what is the remote computer? |
| 20:49.45 | Zalamander | SimAtWork I don't understand the question |
| 20:49.49 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A798B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:49.55 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: you probably need to emerge some use flags, or something |
| 20:49.55 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: f1 works between ssh apps usually, but i've found telnetting into solaris boxes etc. gives me problems like you are saying. |
| 20:50.01 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: it's an issue with "terminal emulation" |
| 20:50.02 | eisen | I'm on gentoo. |
| 20:50.21 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 20:50.53 | Zalamander | SimAtWork this app runs it's own shell |
| 20:50.55 | SimAtWork | so you can try settings->keyboard and pick from what's there. |
| 20:51.01 | Zalamander | yes, that's what I did |
| 20:51.03 | YggdrasilOS | i can't see any useflags that are relevant to plugins |
| 20:51.05 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: you mean you're running locally? |
| 20:51.05 | *** join/#kde NullAcht15 (n=NullAcht@dslb-082-083-230-113.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:51.12 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: how did you connect to the other computer |
| 20:51.44 | eisen | it may be the "nsplugin" flag. But konqueror does not use it. |
| 20:51.55 | Zalamander | SimAtWork no, I connect via SSH. My F1 key works in general (doesn't do anything), but in this app it acts differently |
| 20:51.58 | YggdrasilOS | i have nsplugin set globally |
| 20:52.07 | YggdrasilOS | so it would have compiled correctly, if it used it |
| 20:52.13 | *** join/#kde itrebal (n=itrebal@unaffiliated/itrebal) |
| 20:52.24 | Zalamander | so I'm wondering if there's a way to send a specific keycode event |
| 20:52.37 | itrebal | anyone know what package ktorrent comes with on debian? |
| 20:52.57 | YggdrasilOS | so basically, i'm forked until one of the Gentoo KDE herd devs fixes it :/ |
| 20:53.07 | YggdrasilOS | arrg |
| 20:53.08 | eisen | which version of kde? |
| 20:53.13 | YggdrasilOS | 3.5.1 |
| 20:53.19 | eisen | same here. |
| 20:53.23 | HamishTPB | YggdrasilOS: I have Flash in Konqueror on 3.5.1 in Gentoo |
| 20:53.39 | YggdrasilOS | oh? how'd you get it working? |
| 20:53.44 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: not that i know of. unless you can automate. then expect could help. |
| 20:53.53 | YggdrasilOS | and also, what arch are you running? |
| 20:54.04 | eisen | I have only net-www/netscape-flash-7.0.63 emerged. |
| 20:54.18 | HamishTPB | YggdrasilOS: x86 arch |
| 20:54.23 | YggdrasilOS | bah |
| 20:54.31 | HamishTPB | YggdrasilOS: ah - are you... |
| 20:54.32 | HamishTPB | ok |
| 20:54.33 | HamishTPB | :/ |
| 20:54.34 | HamishTPB | sorry |
| 20:54.39 | YggdrasilOS | feck |
| 20:54.42 | HamishTPB | idd |
| 20:54.47 | porkrynde | YggdrasilOS: we have problems with flash in firefox on x86_64 |
| 20:54.57 | porkrynde | we==rpath Linux |
| 20:55.01 | Zalamander | SimAtWork well, I'm already in the app, and want to exit ;-) |
| 20:55.02 | YggdrasilOS | oh, it works just fine in firefox |
| 20:55.21 | YggdrasilOS | i just use the precompiled binary version of FF, rather than the optimized one |
| 20:55.27 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: i hope you are not using "samco". |
| 20:55.30 | eisen | ah, well that explains it. |
| 20:55.35 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: if so, i will cry for you now. |
| 20:55.40 | Zalamander | SimAtWork me too ... since I never heard of it |
| 20:55.50 | YggdrasilOS | because 64bit FF doesn't play nice with 32-bit plugins, for some damn reason |
| 20:55.59 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: stupid accounting program i had to use for a bit. It used f1 to exit. |
| 20:56.06 | Zalamander | but I can assure you, the 12 year old app that I'm using deserves your sympathy! |
| 20:56.15 | Zalamander | very similar: appgen |
| 20:56.28 | Zalamander | maybe even related. It's also an accounting app |
| 20:57.14 | YggdrasilOS | well, i'm not switching to x86, so i guess i'll live without flash in konq for now |
| 20:57.26 | Zalamander | SimAtWork what accounting app do you use now? |
| 20:57.33 | eisen | flash is annoying anyway. |
| 20:57.51 | YggdrasilOS | maybe one of these days Macromedia will get with the program and release a 64bit binary |
| 20:58.07 | HamishTPB | eisen: yeah - unless I specifically want to see some content I use the spiffy new Konqueror feature to block them |
| 20:58.11 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: accpac for linux. |
| 20:58.13 | YggdrasilOS | eh, i browse newgrounds.com a lot, so tis kinda necessary |
| 20:58.27 | HamishTPB | 99% are adverts trying to get around the img blocking |
| 20:58.36 | SimAtWork | YggdrasilOS: don't hold your breath :) |
| 20:58.37 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: flash in konq requires motif (or at least it used to), so you might need that installed |
| 20:58.39 | eisen | HamishTPB: exactly, no flash -> less commercials. |
| 20:58.41 | Zalamander | SimAtWork any good? We are desperately hunting for an alternative |
| 20:58.48 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: accpac is great. |
| 20:58.54 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: a little pricey, but well worth it. |
| 20:58.57 | Zalamander | thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. |
| 20:58.59 | YggdrasilOS | i've got either openmotif or lesstif installed |
| 20:59.01 | SimAtWork | Zalamander: accpac + db2 |
| 20:59.03 | YggdrasilOS | (not sure which) |
| 20:59.06 | Zalamander | ok |
| 20:59.34 | *** join/#kde |main| (n=sirc@Toronto-HSE-ppp3763446.sympatico.ca) |
| 20:59.36 | YggdrasilOS | my problem is that it's not even seeing the plugin |
| 20:59.41 | |main| | hi all |
| 20:59.49 | |main| | i have a question about the bookmarks in file dialogs |
| 21:00.03 | |main| | are they local to the app or global? |
| 21:00.13 | |main| | it seems when i add them in dialog for one app, they dont come up in all others |
| 21:00.18 | |main| | is there a way to add them globally? |
| 21:01.04 | SimAtWork | main, i don't think that makes sense. |
| 21:01.14 | SimAtWork | if you make a book mark with konsole how is konqueror supposed to handle that. |
| 21:01.22 | SimAtWork | main, or vice versa! |
| 21:01.41 | *** join/#kde _root (n=root@213.250.162.35) |
| 21:01.52 | _root | hola |
| 21:02.01 | |main| | no-no |
| 21:02.06 | |main| | when u open a filedialog |
| 21:02.09 | |main| | like to open or save files? |
| 21:02.12 | _root | alquien me puede decir un programa de linux para arrancar windows |
| 21:02.12 | |main| | in konq, or ktorrent |
| 21:02.23 | |main| | open location dialog :) |
| 21:03.48 | pwuertz | could someone explain me the usage of kxdocker please? i dont get it... |
| 21:04.04 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: sorry, I meant "nsplugins in konq require..." rather than flash particularly. That's why there's no plugin tab shown |
| 21:04.18 | *** join/#kde IceD^^^ (n=iced@86.57.162.176) |
| 21:04.27 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: I've seen quite a few gentoo users report that problem here. I have no idea what the solution is |
| 21:04.42 | YggdrasilOS | oh, i know what the solution is |
| 21:04.49 | YggdrasilOS | bug the KDE Herd Devs until they fix the damn thing |
| 21:04.52 | YggdrasilOS | :P |
| 21:05.00 | PhilRod | KDE Herd devs? |
| 21:05.25 | *** join/#kde grave (n=grave@Q1a83.q.pppool.de) |
| 21:05.25 | YggdrasilOS | each major subproject is assigned to a Herd, which is comprised of one or more developers who focus in on that one area |
| 21:05.27 | |main| | PhilRod: do you know if bookmark entries in Open Locations dialog can be made global? |
| 21:05.41 | |main| | so that they are available in konq, ktorrent, and other apps? |
| 21:05.52 | PhilRod | YggdrasilOS: oh, so basically the gentoo kde packagers |
| 21:06.12 | YggdrasilOS | more or less |
| 21:06.23 | SimAtWork | oh main, i see what you mean now |
| 21:06.28 | SimAtWork | main, but i still don't have a solution. |
| 21:06.32 | YggdrasilOS | gentoo is a roll-your-own-binaries distro, so there's a bit more to it than just packaging |
| 21:06.45 | YggdrasilOS | but you got the gist of it |
| 21:07.11 | *** join/#kde lgsobalvarro (n=lgsobalv@cable200-116-195-206.epm.net.co) |
| 21:07.35 | YggdrasilOS | i'm lucky here, there's a lot of people in the KDE herd...poor Anarchy has to manage the Mozilla herd all by himself |
| 21:07.50 | PhilRod | |main|: when you add an entry, there's a "show only in this application" option. Did you make sure that was unchecked? |
| 21:08.09 | YggdrasilOS | that's Mozilla, Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird, and whatever else the Mozilla Foundation has released that Gentoo supports |
| 21:08.23 | |main| | PhilRod: lemme try |
| 21:08.33 | *** join/#kde gerr (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 21:09.05 | |main| | well |
| 21:09.11 | |main| | i tried unchecking it, and it doesnt work |
| 21:09.15 | |main| | do i need to restart something :) ? |
| 21:10.34 | *** join/#kde _jon (n=jon@134.Red-83-44-61.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:11.28 | *** join/#kde birillo (n=birillo@host17-105.pool8258.interbusiness.it) |
| 21:12.01 | PhilRod | |main|: well, you could try restarting kde, just to see if it makes any difference |
| 21:15.26 | *** join/#kde mobtek (n=mobtek@220-253-116-39.ACT.netspace.net.au) |
| 21:16.15 | GraveDigger | hmmm... will there be something like a "compiz-compatibility module" or glx support for kde *before* kde4? |
| 21:16.45 | *** join/#kde trapecista (n=trapecis@198.Red-213-96-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:16.48 | GraveDigger | well, what to say: i want to try using xgl, but with kde instead of gnome |
| 21:17.26 | *** join/#kde flaccid (n=flaccid@58.169.111.61) |
| 21:17.32 | *** join/#kde df00z (n=df00z@70-96-214-253.dsl1-pixley.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) |
| 21:17.51 | *** part/#kde itrebal (n=itrebal@unaffiliated/itrebal) |
| 21:18.53 | PhilRod | GraveDigger: probably |
| 21:19.06 | *** join/#kde Smak (n=adam@c-69-136-0-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 21:19.36 | *** join/#kde jon_ (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:19.46 | Smak | Is there any network monitor software for kde that shows and records in and out bound traffic? |
| 21:20.04 | pinotree | knemo |
| 21:20.38 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: know anything more detailed? |
| 21:21.09 | PhilRod | not really. If you'd like to work on it, I can probably go find out who you should talk to |
| 21:21.54 | GraveDigger | oh ... *sigh* i am no developer |
| 21:21.57 | GraveDigger | only a user |
| 21:22.02 | GraveDigger | but thanks for the offer |
| 21:22.33 | *** join/#kde gemidjy (n=gemidjy@62.162.188.145) |
| 21:23.34 | PhilRod | many developers were just users once :-) |
| 21:23.47 | PhilRod | s/many/all/, I suppose |
| 21:25.39 | *** join/#kde _dustin (n=dustin@ppp-69-154-210-229.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) |
| 21:26.46 | *** join/#kde simian__ (n=ben@host86-129-143-68.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:27.09 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 21:27.20 | porkrynde | Is there a panel app for monitoring cpu usage? |
| 21:27.37 | pinotree | ksim |
| 21:28.02 | porkrynde | pinotree: Is that in kde proper, or a "Third party" app? |
| 21:28.07 | GraveDigger | ksysguard panel applet |
| 21:28.09 | pinotree | kdeutils |
| 21:29.03 | *** join/#kde tottoro (n=tottoro@KHP059141138085.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 21:29.19 | GraveDigger | porkrynde: then try ksysguard instead |
| 21:29.25 | GraveDigger | ksysguard and its kicker applet |
| 21:29.27 | pinotree | it's a panel so right click on the panel -> add new panel -> ksim |
| 21:30.16 | porkrynde | ksysguard I have. |
| 21:30.27 | porkrynde | pinotree: is ksim new to 3.5.x? |
| 21:30.33 | pinotree | no |
| 21:30.48 | GraveDigger | porkrynde: okay, then add a ksysguard panel to kicker |
| 21:30.48 | porkrynde | Ok. I'll look into why I don't have it then. |
| 21:31.13 | GraveDigger | pinotree: i give up ... guess he still does not get it |
| 21:31.14 | GraveDigger | -.- |
| 21:31.20 | GraveDigger | pinotree: ur party then |
| 21:31.36 | porkrynde | GraveDigger: Thanks. I've added ksysguard. |
| 21:32.00 | porkrynde | but I have a role in creating packages for my distro, so I wanted to figure out why I didn't have ksim. |
| 21:33.00 | *** join/#kde Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-1a5f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:33.20 | GraveDigger | porkrynde: because ksim is not part of the monolithic packages but a seperate program insteas |
| 21:33.59 | GraveDigger | s/insteas/instead |
| 21:34.01 | porkrynde | GraveDigger: Ok. pinotree said it was in kdeutils, or I misunderstood. |
| 21:34.01 | GraveDigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.16 | GraveDigger | porkrynde: hmm...maybe ... then i would be wrong |
| 21:34.20 | *** join/#kde adamt (n=adam@50C54275.flatrate.dk) |
| 21:34.27 | GraveDigger | porkrynde: anyways: tho i have the utils installed i dont have ksim |
| 21:34.43 | porkrynde | a search for ksim on kde-apps.org doesn't show anything. |
| 21:34.44 | GraveDigger | but maybe this is due to "my" packaging system here |
| 21:34.46 | GraveDigger | dunno |
| 21:34.58 | GraveDigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.59 | GraveDigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.00 | GraveDigger | oO |
| 21:35.42 | GraveDigger | [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdeutils-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/ksim-3.5.2) |
| 21:35.43 | GraveDigger | oh |
| 21:35.50 | GraveDigger | looks as if pinotree was right |
| 21:36.28 | porkrynde | Ok. I'll investigate on my end. |
| 21:36.46 | GraveDigger | yeah |
| 21:39.15 | *** join/#kde gerr135 (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 21:39.26 | *** join/#kde _keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:39.51 | |main| | hmm |
| 21:39.56 | |main| | ktorrent corrupted my torrents on restart:( |
| 21:39.58 | *** join/#kde saint (n=saint@c211-30-38-197.blktn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:43.01 | *** join/#kde koskon (n=koskon@ACB74DE7.ipt.aol.com) |
| 21:43.29 | koskon | hi alle hier |
| 21:43.43 | PhilRod | hi koskon |
| 21:44.20 | koskon | bin das erste mal hier |
| 21:44.29 | koskon | kannst du mir ein paar tipps geben |
| 21:44.42 | PhilRod | koskon: we usually speak english here, but there's #kde.de for german |
| 21:44.46 | *** join/#kde idiotbs (n=frank@p54B258D8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:44.57 | PhilRod | you're welcome to stay here though :-) |
| 21:45.08 | idiotbs | hello |
| 21:45.15 | PhilRod | hi idiotbs |
| 21:45.54 | tech9iner | you obviously owe me some royalties on that nick idiotbs lol.. fits me to a t |
| 21:46.09 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: what about you? ever considered starting developing kde stuff? |
| 21:46.20 | idiotbs | hehe, i use it for a long time |
| 21:46.29 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: want to write compiz compatibility stuff for kde3? |
| 21:47.00 | lgsobalvarro | hi idiotbs |
| 21:47.03 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: and give the world out there a chance to use both the power of accelerated desktops with their fav desktops? |
| 21:47.07 | PhilRod | GraveDigger: someone said earlier today that there's some kind of support, but it's a hack, or something like that |
| 21:47.16 | idiotbs | hi lgsobalvarro and all |
| 21:47.25 | tech9iner | sure.. its me life'z goal soon as i get that damned hitech l/O button on all my gdamned electronic chit down patt GraveDigger !! |
| 21:47.44 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: well, almost *anything* should be better than what is available now |
| 21:48.01 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: great! :D so how long until development starts ? |
| 21:48.02 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 21:48.28 | tech9iner | well... <poweroffbutton>.. see?.. wink |
| 21:48.46 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 21:48.46 | *** join/#kde _human_blip_ (n=mike@mike.nelsonbay.com) |
| 21:49.11 | *** join/#kde milliams (n=matt@cpc1-horn1-4-0-cust65.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:49.54 | |main| | anyone uses ktorrent here? |
| 21:50.07 | lgsobalvarro | |main|: i use it somethimes |
| 21:50.29 | |main| | did u try to shut it down while it was downloading? |
| 21:50.34 | |main| | it corrupted my torrents like that. |
| 21:51.43 | idiotbs | the torrent files or the downloaded stuff? |
| 21:51.44 | lgsobalvarro | |main| thats extrange... |
| 21:52.07 | |main| | basically, it stalled |
| 21:52.11 | |main| | and wont restart |
| 21:52.21 | |main| | i had to remove them |
| 21:53.33 | *** join/#kde NullAcht15 (n=NullAcht@dslb-082-083-210-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:53.59 | *** join/#kde raphink|pala (n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:54.30 | lgsobalvarro | |main|: but ktorrent geve's you any error with the tracker? |
| 21:54.38 | |main| | nope |
| 21:55.10 | |main| | btw, can i mount a .bin/.cue file under linux? |
| 21:55.11 | |main| | like an .iso |
| 21:55.25 | *** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-74-128-98.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:56.08 | PhilRod | it's kdeaddons for filesize view in konq, isn't it? |
| 21:56.24 | |main| | no clue:) |
| 21:56.35 | *** join/#kde stephans (n=stephans@mail.farorbit.com) |
| 21:57.15 | idiotbs | |main|: use bchunk to combine the iso/cue files |
| 21:57.16 | *** join/#kde nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:57.16 | idiotbs | or bin/cue rather... |
| 22:00.57 | |main| | thanks |
| 22:08.18 | *** join/#kde staharaj (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 22:08.30 | *** join/#kde halibut (n=foo@cpc1-lewi1-4-0-cust149.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:08.41 | *** part/#kde staharaj (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 22:08.53 | halibut | when I set the filename for the mp3 ripper in kde, is it possible to specify subfolders aswell? |
| 22:09.02 | halibut | eg: albumtitle/trackname |
| 22:09.15 | halibut | I have tried / but it just puts the / in to the filename rather than make a sub dir |
| 22:09.46 | *** join/#kde gerr (n=georges@85-218-19-247.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 22:10.24 | PhilRod | halibut: doesn't look like it, but IIRC juk can do that, so you could rip them, then use the file renamer in juk to put them in their own dirs |
| 22:10.34 | *** join/#kde gemidjy (n=gemidjy@62.162.188.145) |
| 22:10.34 | |main| | hmmm |
| 22:10.44 | |main| | amarok doesnt seem to play .cue sheets |
| 22:10.47 | *** join/#kde _knoppix (n=knoppix@p54A12CD9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:11.02 | PhilRod | halibut: sounds like a reasonable wish for the audiocd:/ ioslave though. You might like to request it at bugs.kde.org (if it hasn't already been requested) |
| 22:11.09 | halibut | ok |
| 22:11.12 | halibut | thanks PhilRod |
| 22:12.50 | *** join/#kde mic (n=mic@p54AACE37.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:13.05 | *** join/#kde rodrigo (n=rodrigo@213.150.190.227) |
| 22:13.12 | *** join/#kde wamty (n=usek@194.126.9.221) |
| 22:13.15 | wamty | i use that kdevelop |
| 22:13.26 | wamty | and it always give me an error 127 |
| 22:13.30 | *** join/#kde joshua_77 (n=joshua@152.74.216.70) |
| 22:13.33 | joshua_77 | hi |
| 22:13.46 | wamty | when i type |
| 22:13.48 | *** join/#kde andz (i=andz@dslb-084-056-021-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:13.54 | joshua_77 | ! |
| 22:13.54 | wamty | find make * -print it tell me make* noot found |
| 22:14.23 | PhilRod | wamty: what do you want to do? That command line looks wrong |
| 22:14.25 | joshua_77 | hey, my usb disk not unmounted |
| 22:14.31 | joshua_77 | why? |
| 22:14.45 | *** join/#kde Archa (n=archa@ava74.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:15.10 | Archa | witam |
| 22:15.11 | joshua_77 | kfmclienta have a some option for this |
| 22:15.15 | Archa | jest tutaj ktos? |
| 22:15.23 | Archa | ;o |
| 22:15.36 | Archa | lol'ik |
| 22:15.43 | Archa | co jest psiaki?? ;p |
| 22:15.51 | Archa | bla bla bla bu ha ha ;d |
| 22:15.52 | pinotree | Archa: english, please |
| 22:15.56 | Archa | why?? |
| 22:15.59 | Archa | :( |
| 22:16.08 | *** join/#kde sredna|konversat (n=anders@83.73.148.136.ip.tele2adsl.dk) |
| 22:16.11 | pinotree | because this is an english channel |
| 22:16.18 | Archa | ou |
| 22:16.21 | Archa | sorry |
| 22:16.43 | rodrigo | i am not sure that Archa is sorry !! |
| 22:16.52 | Archa | so tell me,, how i can run Red Alert 2 at Suse 10.0 ?? |
| 22:17.05 | pinotree | wrong channel |
| 22:17.07 | Archa | i have wine lastes |
| 22:17.09 | lgsobalvarro | Archa ask it on #suse |
| 22:17.17 | Archa | and cedega 5.1 |
| 22:17.18 | idiotbs | reboot, choose windOS |
| 22:17.23 | Archa | oki ;) |
| 22:17.57 | rodrigo | hi, i have a problem |
| 22:18.06 | |main| | try #cedega |
| 22:18.14 | rodrigo | i can't speak english well |
| 22:18.25 | lgsobalvarro | rodrigo: you only need ask |
| 22:18.49 | rodrigo | just i can't find a way to express my problem well |
| 22:18.58 | PhilRod | rodrigo: ask in your own language - if someone here speaks it, they'll help |
| 22:19.17 | PhilRod | or there might be a channel for kde discussion in your language |
| 22:20.50 | PhilRod | rodrigo: what is your native language? |
| 22:21.10 | sredna|konversat | after switching to kubuntu, kde doesn't seem to like my file names any more, anything with æøå in it gets misinterpreted :( |
| 22:21.10 | rodrigo | no problem PhilRod |
| 22:21.27 | sredna|konversat | anyone knows what to do about that? |
| 22:21.46 | idiotbs | that's the character encoding, sredna, change it in kcontrol |
| 22:22.25 | sredna|konversat | hm, kubuntu doesn't have a real control center, that is one of it's shortcomings |
| 22:22.30 | lgsobalvarro | rodrigo: you speek spanish, right? |
| 22:22.31 | PhilRod | sredna|konversat: $LANG might affect it too |
| 22:22.53 | idiotbs | yes it has, only not in the Kmenu |
| 22:22.59 | lgsobalvarro | sredna|konversat: Alt+F2 => kcontrol |
| 22:23.15 | rodrigo | lgsobalvarro: no |
| 22:23.30 | lgsobalvarro | so what rodrigo? |
| 22:23.51 | rodrigo | lgsobalvarro: see private msg |
| 22:24.09 | lgsobalvarro | repeat it please rodrigo |
| 22:24.22 | rodrigo | french |
| 22:24.27 | sredna|konversat | hm, where is the encoding hidden in kcontrol? i switched to danish (but i may switch back to english, the translations are *soooooo* horrible that even it's often funny it's hard to work with |
| 22:24.57 | pinotree | sredna|konversat: kcontrol -> regionals -> contry & language |
| 22:25.04 | rodrigo | lgsobalvarro: we can speak in private room |
| 22:25.07 | rodrigo | ? |
| 22:25.11 | PhilRod | rodrigo: y a #kde-fr pour les francophones |
| 22:25.20 | lgsobalvarro | ahh frensh, sorry rodrigo i dont stand french. But in #kde-fr can help you |
| 22:25.28 | rodrigo | thank |
| 22:25.47 | sredna|konversat | pinotree: it doesn't seem to mention encoding though |
| 22:26.42 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:26.50 | *** join/#kde ChBugZ (n=ChBugZ@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-215-28.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 22:27.53 | sredna|konversat | ah, it appears that i'm now using da_DK.UTF8 which is actually better than ISO8859-15 imo, so i will rename them as i find them i guess |
| 22:28.23 | idiotbs | yes, that's a good plan |
| 22:28.36 | *** join/#kde djk_ (n=djk@p54A2F105.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:29.08 | *** join/#kde Sevidul (n=Sevidul@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:29.11 | *** join/#kde eBug (n=eric@62.235.57.104) |
| 22:29.14 | PhilRod | I bet there's a neat way to do it automatically, though I don't know it offhand. Perhaps using 'tr' |
| 22:29.39 | *** join/#kde knoppix (n=knoppix@we23440.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 22:29.50 | djk_ | is there a kde 3.5.1 speed test? |
| 22:29.58 | knoppix | When i try to create a new folder, I get access denied, how do i fix it |
| 22:30.03 | |main| | speed test? |
| 22:30.10 | PhilRod | knoppix: set the correct permissions |
| 22:30.20 | PhilRod | well, s/correct/required/ |
| 22:30.29 | *** join/#kde unity (n=unity@pool-70-18-56-252.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:30.30 | djk_ | |main|: well, how fast apps start, how fast kde boots... |
| 22:30.55 | PhilRod | djk_: not that I know of. Why would you want such a thing? |
| 22:31.11 | idiotbs | <PhilRod> knoppix: set the correct permissions --- on the directory where you want to add the subdirectory |
| 22:31.17 | unity | does anyone know where kate and kwrite store its text colors? my text colors are really messed up and i wuold like to just restore the defailt |
| 22:31.33 | *** join/#kde erichmoore (n=rich@host86-142-69-155.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:31.50 | djk_ | PhilRod: well, it might be nice having a speedcomparison of different de/wm's |
| 22:32.18 | sredna|konversat | PhilRod: find + sed could probably do it, but i have no clue how to find them |
| 22:32.29 | PhilRod | djk_: very difficult to do a meaningful comparison, I would imagine |
| 22:32.38 | sredna|konversat | that is, how to enter the iso8859 characters |
| 22:32.43 | PhilRod | ah, I see |
| 22:32.43 | djk_ | PhilRod: why do you imagine so? |
| 22:32.52 | knoppix | PhilRod: how can i do that please? |
| 22:33.20 | *** join/#kde Craig_ (n=Craig@host86-137-71-138.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:33.24 | PhilRod | knoppix: right-click on the directory that idiotbs mentioned, go to permissions, make sure the "write" permission is set |
| 22:33.29 | *** part/#kde erichmoore (n=rich@host86-142-69-155.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:33.50 | PhilRod | knoppix: if that doesn't mean anything to you, you should find a tutorial on unix permissions (google is useful there) |
| 22:35.01 | *** part/#kde wamty (n=usek@194.126.9.221) |
| 22:35.09 | *** join/#kde HuntsMan (n=hunts@pc-97-136-120-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 22:35.12 | knoppix | but it's grayed out. |
| 22:35.26 | PhilRod | djk_: well, apart from the obvious warm vs cold caches stuff, apps can use tricks to make it look like they're loading faster, they can preload, etc. You'll probably get different results on different systems (got a fast HD but slow CPU? The first load might be faster, but subsequent loads slower than a system with fast CPU and slow HD,say) |
| 22:35.30 | PhilRod | djk_: etc etc |
| 22:35.36 | idiotbs | knoppix, try to become root |
| 22:35.44 | PhilRod | knoppix: you probably don't own that directory |
| 22:35.49 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@adsl-ull-13-187.41-151.net24.it) |
| 22:36.00 | knoppix | idiotbs: Im using knoppix, if i press CTRL+ALT+F1 , it takes me to root terminal |
| 22:36.25 | PhilRod | knoppix: http://www.google.com/search?q=unix+file+permissions&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Choose the one that you like the look of the best |
| 22:36.46 | *** join/#kde Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-1a5f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:36.50 | *** join/#kde Billthe4th (n=Billthe4@hallenclose.plus.com) |
| 22:37.26 | PhilRod | djk_: no doubt someone's tried to compare speeds of KDE/GNOME/whatever, though. GIYF, I guess |
| 22:37.42 | djk_ | PhilRod: of course. but if tested on 2 or 3 machines, one would get a slight idea, i think |
| 22:38.01 | knoppix | ok thanks PhilRod and idiotbs |
| 22:38.25 | PhilRod | djk_: I suspect the answer would be "KDE and GNOME are about the same. Pure WMs (not DEs) are much quicker" |
| 22:38.33 | *** join/#kde hein (i=sho@konversation/developer/hein) |
| 22:38.36 | PhilRod | !sleep |
| 22:39.22 | *** join/#kde dsafda (n=dsafda@adsl-ull-13-187.41-151.net24.it) |
| 22:39.33 | *** join/#kde null (n=null@g624-9034.itee.uq.edu.au) |
| 22:42.23 | *** part/#kde gizmo75 (n=titi@244.156.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 22:42.25 | *** join/#kde tty56_ (n=johannes@p54A7843D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:43.56 | *** join/#kde jamesots_ (n=jamesots@88-108-53-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 22:46.21 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:47.06 | rodrigo | i can not set the correct time !! |
| 22:47.31 | rodrigo | when i adjust time zone to my country |
| 22:47.31 | *** join/#kde tty56__ (n=johannes@p54A7BC72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:47.51 | rodrigo | so bye |
| 22:47.54 | *** part/#kde rodrigo (n=rodrigo@213.150.190.227) |
| 22:49.12 | SimAtWork | i wish all distros set your time zone and made it synch time automatically |
| 22:49.21 | SimAtWork | people are generally too dumb to do these things themselves. |
| 22:49.24 | *** join/#kde Xs_ (n=Xs@ALamentin-104-1-39-13.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:49.57 | *** join/#kde CVirus (n=GoD@82.201.222.180) |
| 22:50.28 | *** part/#kde Zalamander (n=zal@unaffiliated/zalamander) |
| 22:50.41 | *** part/#kde Xs_ (n=Xs@ALamentin-104-1-39-13.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:51.11 | visik7 | SimAtWork: ubuntu does it |
| 22:52.14 | eBug | why is it that i don't see a preview of the pictures i have in my folders in konqueror ? |
| 22:53.14 | *** join/#kde tty56___ (n=johannes@p54A785F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:53.27 | idiotbs | i'd say it's not set to preview mode.... or the files are very big |
| 22:54.28 | eBug | in View->Preview I have 'pictures' enabled |
| 22:54.56 | eBug | do i miss a package ? |
| 22:58.04 | *** join/#kde samboski (n=sam@68-115-156-205.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 22:58.12 | *** join/#kde tty56 (n=johannes@p54A796EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:00.03 | *** join/#kde eisen (n=eisbaer@xdsl-81-173-183-30.netcologne.de) |
| 23:00.06 | *** join/#kde feindbild (n=iostream@tor/session/x-2aedc5fbcf38613b) |
| 23:01.02 | *** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) |
| 23:03.38 | *** join/#kde pyrosim (n=pyrosim@c-69-241-173-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 23:09.13 | *** join/#kde skullz (n=knoppix@we23440.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 23:09.17 | *** join/#kde nico8481 (n=nico@62.235.59.198) |
| 23:09.18 | nico8481 | hi |
| 23:09.24 | skullz | I've installed a font, how do i activate it? |
| 23:09.28 | *** join/#kde msoos (n=Soos@89.147.72.193) |
| 23:10.22 | chavo | skullz, it should be ready to go |
| 23:10.42 | msoos | KDE rocks. Problem: kaboodle plugin is default in Konqueror, which does not play quicktime(e.g. www.apple.com/trailers) I had remove it, so that kaffeine would be used instead. There is *no way* to force it to use a different (also installed) plugin |
| 23:10.55 | skullz | chavo: |
| 23:11.04 | skullz | how would i know? Reboot pc? |
| 23:11.18 | chavo | skullz, how did you install it? |
| 23:11.20 | msoos | This took me about 2 months to figure out. I am a programmer. Conclusion: an average user will never be able to play the trailers |
| 23:11.36 | chavo | from control center? |
| 23:13.14 | chavo | msoos, I have kaboodle and kaffeine installed, works for me. |
| 23:13.34 | chavo | running kubuntu here |
| 23:13.57 | chavo | but I'm way above average :P |
| 23:15.03 | msoos | chavo, I have both installed, kaboodle is default. You have NO WAY to tell, which one is default. You were lucky (this has probably something to do with a configuraition option that is either not accessible or not at all easy to find - iI searched for it quite a bit). Also, note that this has something to do with the package you installed(deb/rpm/etc.) and the order you installed them in |
| 23:15.52 | msoos | All I am saying that it is simply not reasonable NOT to have an option to choose which one to use |
| 23:15.55 | chavo | msoos, KDE doesn't ship packages, the configuration is up to you or your distro |
| 23:16.05 | *** part/#kde theobroma (n=theobrom@pool-71-112-58-199.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:16.08 | sredna|konversat | chfghf |
| 23:16.28 | msoos | chavo, yes, but what if I want a different configuration than my distro set? I must be able to change it, no? |
| 23:16.51 | msoos | Like "I prefer kaffeine to kaboodle, use it, Konqueror, please" |
| 23:16.55 | msoos | I can not do that currently |
| 23:17.10 | msoos | And then set it back if I want to |
| 23:17.15 | *** join/#kde skullz (n=knoppix@we23440.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 23:17.17 | chavo | well there must be a way, that's exactly how it is here |
| 23:17.22 | skullz | chavo: sorry my pc restarted. |
| 23:17.28 | msoos | it's impossible to set it |
| 23:17.37 | msoos | no option in any configuration menu |
| 23:17.37 | chavo | must be |
| 23:17.40 | msoos | nono |
| 23:17.42 | msoos | look around |
| 23:17.45 | msoos | I did |
| 23:17.48 | *** join/#kde gemidjy (n=gemidjy@62.162.188.145) |
| 23:17.57 | msoos | try to change it, for instance, to kaboodle |
| 23:18.27 | *** join/#kde matyd (i=matt@ip68-0-85-116.tu.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:18.30 | msoos | (you have kaffeine, so try setting to the other, than back again. I bet you can't do it without manually editing some obscure conf. file) |
| 23:18.30 | visik7 | finally solved the problem with nfs |
| 23:18.43 | *** part/#kde matyd (i=matt@ip68-0-85-116.tu.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:19.15 | *** join/#kde enfact (n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.21 | chavo | it's right in the Settings -> KDE Components -> File Associations |
| 23:19.40 | msoos | chavo, try it. I already did |
| 23:19.42 | skullz | chavo: can i run .msi under linux, just like .exe ? |
| 23:19.49 | msoos | Doesn't do anythin |
| 23:20.22 | msoos | But I would be curius if it worked for you. I would also be amazed |
| 23:20.55 | idiotbs | yes, you can run them like .exe - they both don't work :D |
| 23:21.26 | chavo | took me abot 3 seconds and yes it does work for me |
| 23:21.40 | chavo | be amazed |
| 23:22.04 | chavo | you have to set in on the Embedding tab, not the General tab |
| 23:22.04 | msoos | ? Now it's kaboodle that plays the trailers? |
| 23:22.10 | msoos | Oooooooooooh |
| 23:22.13 | msoos | Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 23:22.22 | chavo | no I get the, Quicktime 7 required link |
| 23:22.35 | chavo | when I change it to kaboodle |
| 23:22.38 | msoos | I didn't see that. I was just trying to point it out to you, that you can only set the normal play, not the embedded part |
| 23:23.05 | msoos | I try it out right now!! |
| 23:23.12 | chavo | well works for me here, I'm running 3.5.2 on kubuntu dapper though |
| 23:23.36 | visik7 | 3.5.2 is out ? |
| 23:23.46 | chavo | well not officially |
| 23:23.52 | chavo | it's been tagged in svn |
| 23:24.05 | msoos | Cool, I remove the bug report I filed, then |
| 23:24.08 | visik7 | and ubuntu dapper has deb already ' |
| 23:24.50 | chavo | not dapper officially, but Riddel has them, he's main developer for kubuntu |
| 23:25.09 | visik7 | oh |
| 23:25.11 | *** join/#kde v|kToR` (n=viktor@62.162.71.150) |
| 23:25.17 | visik7 | ok I can wait for breezy backport |
| 23:25.35 | visik7 | will be a 3.5.3 ? |
| 23:25.56 | chavo | well I also have my own installation that I build from source, but it's crapping out on me |
| 23:26.12 | chavo | yes there will probably be a 3.5.3 |
| 23:26.26 | chavo | as 4.0 isn't coming out for a while |
| 23:26.39 | *** join/#kde Frederick (n=imanewbi@unaffiliated/frederick) |
| 23:26.49 | Frederick | hi folks can I have some help with kdevelops makefiles? |
| 23:26.52 | msoos | btw, the thing that KDE notices that I put a DVD in is great! |
| 23:27.01 | msoos | linux never did that before, this is cool |
| 23:27.15 | *** join/#kde hunt0r (n=kvirc@mnch-d9bdd2fc.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:27.18 | msoos | We are getting user-friendly |
| 23:27.23 | *** join/#kde keng48 (n=keng48@pool-209-158-58-65.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:27.32 | msoos | unmounting is still a problem, though (I think) |
| 23:27.33 | chavo | It's always been friendly to me :) |
| 23:27.51 | SimAtWork | soon it'll be able to start porn the second you undo your zipper... |
| 23:27.56 | msoos | I know how to mount, remount, etc, but my mom.... |
| 23:27.59 | chavo | lol |
| 23:28.07 | idiotbs | a video dvd should not be mounted, so you only have to close kaffeine |
| 23:28.10 | msoos | SimAtWork, I expect it to! |
| 23:28.18 | SimAtWork | msoos: lol. |
| 23:31.07 | *** join/#kde stephans (n=stephans@mail.farorbit.com) |
| 23:31.23 | *** join/#kde DemonThing (i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing) |
| 23:32.49 | visik7 | anyone know how to run javascript from konqueror bar ? |
| 23:32.58 | *** join/#kde Remenic (n=remenic@konversation/user/Remenic) |
| 23:35.10 | *** join/#kde Archa (n=archa@ava74.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:35.59 | *** join/#kde Bread (n=baguette@user-3907.l3.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:36.26 | Frederick | folks can I make kdevelop use a external makefile Ive written? |
| 23:38.05 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@210-246-38-28.paradise.net.nz) |
| 23:38.06 | *** join/#kde Sho_ (i=sho@konversation/developer/hein) |
| 23:38.54 | *** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@206-248-137-43.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 23:40.43 | visik7 | what's the name of the parts of konqueror that render javascript ? |
| 23:40.47 | visik7 | is khtml ? |
| 23:41.23 | chavo | visik7, it's kjs |
| 23:41.45 | *** part/#kde Agathezol (n=marmon@smtpstatic.blackfoot.net) |
| 23:42.49 | visik7 | chavo: do u know if there's a way to run javascript from the urlbar like in firefox/IE/opera ? |
| 23:43.04 | visik7 | I've some bookmark in javascript quite usefull for me |
| 23:43.18 | visik7 | but I cannot use it 'couse it run locate:javascript |
| 23:43.21 | visik7 | istead of run js |
| 23:45.32 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 23:45.53 | chavo | visik7, you have to enable the minitools plugin and then you can add javascript bookmarklets from there, they won't work for url bar afaik |
| 23:46.31 | visik7 | minitools is enable |
| 23:47.13 | *** join/#kde unity (n=unity@pool-70-18-56-252.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:47.17 | visik7 | how can I use it ? |
| 23:48.25 | *** part/#kde unity (n=unity@pool-70-18-56-252.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:49.08 | *** join/#kde IceD^ (n=iced@82.209.229.242) |
| 23:51.49 | *** join/#kde LOBA (n=positivo@200-100-62-81.dial-up.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:55.27 | *** join/#kde _Atomo64_ (n=A64@200.66.21.185) |
| 23:55.56 | *** part/#kde LOBA (n=positivo@200-100-62-81.dial-up.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:55.57 | _Atomo64_ | hi Sho_ |
| 23:56.12 | visik7 | I can't enable minitools toolbar |
| 23:56.14 | visik7 | how can I do |
| 23:56.15 | visik7 | ? |
| 23:56.16 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 23:56.17 | visik7 | there isn't |
| 23:56.25 | *** join/#kde LOBA (n=positivo@200-100-62-81.dial-up.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:57.02 | Sho_ | hi _Atomo64_ |
| 23:57.26 | _Atomo64_ | how you doing? |
| 23:57.41 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: Somewhat tired ... lack of sleep :) |
| 23:58.15 | _Atomo64_ | Sho_: lol... then I think that you will go to bed earlier today :p |
| 23:58.25 | Sho_ | _Atomo64_: yep :) |
| 23:58.27 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@71.194.191.92) |
| 23:58.38 | Frederick | hi can I have some kdevelop support here? |
| 23:59.09 | IceD^ | Frederick: you can try |
| 23:59.35 | *** join/#kde OffPlanet (i=500@adsl-70-132-29-226.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:59.46 | Frederick | oki I have a project I'm doing that has like 3 .c files 1 .h and must be linked with a lex generated file oki? |
