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| 00:10.39 | brix__ | hi |
| 00:11.03 | Hairulfr | mjello |
| 00:11.23 | brix__ | i have troubles with kde 3.5, with kdm in paricular.. |
| 00:11.29 | brix__ | can i ask here? |
| 00:12.17 | StevenR | brix__: there's absolutely no need to ask :) This is a kde channel, for kde support....ask away |
| 00:12.33 | StevenR | *no need to ask to ask |
| 00:13.18 | brix__ | :P |
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| 00:13.32 | brix__ | i never know if channels are for developers or for lusers |
| 00:13.33 | brix__ | :P |
| 00:14.07 | StevenR | brix__: we have #kde and #kde-devel :) |
| 00:14.19 | brix__ | however... when kdm starts at boot time, keyboard doesn't work: every key you press results in a CPU burn and no output is printed on video |
| 00:14.22 | brix__ | so you can't log in... |
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| 00:14.48 | brix__ | and also it runs on vt2, while it's configured to run on vt7 |
| 00:15.11 | brix__ | the odd thing is that if you log in in the console and restart kdm, then everything works well |
| 00:15.24 | brix__ | (and on vt7!) |
| 00:15.39 | brix__ | :\ |
| 00:15.47 | StevenR | distro? |
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| 00:15.53 | brix__ | debian sid... |
| 00:16.29 | StevenR | brix__: hmm..im not certain why this happens, if you get no response here, try #debian-kde |
| 00:16.39 | brix__ | :° |
| 00:16.53 | brix__ | sigh |
| 00:17.00 | StevenR | brix__: maybe check the logfile in /var/log/kdm.log ? |
| 00:17.06 | brix__ | i'm going to install gdm however |
| 00:17.30 | brix__ | StevenR: it says xkbcomp has a problem, but can't fin out |
| 00:17.45 | StevenR | brix__: can you paste the exact error message? |
| 00:17.53 | brix__ | however it has the same problem when it works... so i don't think it matters |
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| 00:19.58 | StevenR | brix__: anything else in the log? |
| 00:20.07 | brix__ | nothing. |
| 00:20.19 | StevenR | hmm..very odd |
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| 00:20.41 | brix__ | uhm, i've just realised that i didn't install the kde metapackage |
| 00:20.49 | brix__ | however most packages are installed |
| 00:21.08 | StevenR | not sure if that will help..my knowledge of debian is quite small at the moment |
| 00:21.17 | brix__ | ok |
| 00:21.20 | StevenR | brb..kernel testing |
| 00:21.23 | brix__ | i try to reboot :( |
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| 00:42.37 | livingtm | anyone knwo how to add the samba conf module to the KDE control center? |
| 00:42.43 | maro | there's kde apps for mindmapping, right? |
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| 00:47.40 | CD1 | when i upgraded openssl, kopete and kmail didnt work out well... |
| 00:47.45 | CD1 | (slackware) |
| 00:47.50 | CD1 | i had to downgrade it :/ |
| 00:47.54 | CD1 | why is that? |
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| 00:59.39 | isit-love | hi |
| 00:59.46 | isit-love | any1 here |
| 01:00.29 | DietrichR | no |
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| 01:01.30 | isit-love | http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=14037 |
| 01:01.53 | isit-love | i got the same problem and installed fontconfig but it still doesnt work -_- |
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| 01:17.06 | thx8311 | I'm having some issues with Koepte. The "Enable translucency" doesn't seem to work. And I some times get encoding errors when in channels with Kopete. Specificaly when I try using anything other then black fonts on a white background. |
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| 01:17.58 | thx8311 | I'm using Kopete 0.10.3, KDE 3.4.2 on SUSE 10.0 |
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| 01:47.50 | Cody` | Can anyone tell me how I can start kdm on an xnest? |
| 01:48.15 | Cody` | I have xnest set up, but kdm doesn't seem to start on it when setting the DISPLAY env var |
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| 01:49.51 | qupada | Cody`: i could never get it working either. can start kde sessions in Xnest with 'startkde'. but kdm was a no-show |
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| 01:51.17 | Cody` | hmm |
| 01:52.05 | qupada | of course Xnest has now decided it doesn't want to work, so i can't test it |
| 01:52.58 | Cody` | lol |
| 01:53.03 | Cody` | oh well I'll just use startkde |
| 01:53.05 | Cody` | thanks |
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| 02:03.03 | tech9iner | k.. anyone here ever heard of an app called mimms Please ? |
| 02:05.23 | tech9iner | kde sod mentioned mimms.. google shows it used 2 have a spot on sourceforge.. but now no |
| 02:05.55 | tech9iner | k.. anyone here ever heard of an app called mimms Please ? kde sod mentioned mimms.. google shows it used 2 have a spot on sourceforge.. but now no looking for an app that can record streaming a/v |
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| 03:03.33 | shasbot | i am running gentoo and kde 3.5.1, when i run startx it fails and returns an error of exec startkde: command not found |
| 03:04.13 | shasbot | i tried unmerging my old kde version, but that didnt seem to help |
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| 03:52.00 | Tezkah | is there a KDEPIM channel on freenode? |
| 03:59.05 | Tezkah | nevermind! #kontact |
| 03:59.19 | DaSkreech | \:-) |
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| 04:18.54 | Krisi | can anyone tell me why the 2.6.15 kernel is so slow when it comes to running KDE with ati-drivers? |
| 04:19.47 | HuntsMan | because ati drivers suck? |
| 04:19.50 | Krisi | the 2.6.12 kernel was legendary with it, but the 2.6.15 sucks |
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| 04:29.09 | mobtek | Krisi: I don't think it's the drivers, I use nvidia and KDE is really slow on 2.6.15 |
| 04:29.55 | Krisi | mobtek, that makes sense, cause my friend uses 2.6.15-r1 and he only has console mode right now and it's stupidly slow |
| 04:30.08 | Krisi | even mm-sources is better than gentoo's 2.6.15 for kde |
| 04:30.25 | Krisi | it just baffles me how slow the kernel is... |
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| 04:38.33 | tiroloco | hi |
| 04:38.37 | tiroloco | attempt to compile kdebase, but I obtain the next error |
| 04:38.41 | tiroloco | /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkhtml.so: undefined reference to `__cxa_get_exception_ptr@CXXABI_1.3.1' |
| 04:38.44 | tiroloco | make[3]: *** [khelpcenter] Error 1 |
| 04:38.49 | tiroloco | :( |
| 04:39.19 | tiroloco | any ideas? |
| 04:39.49 | Tezkah | what distro? |
| 04:40.12 | tiroloco | gentoo |
| 04:40.18 | tiroloco | with gcc4.0.2 |
| 04:41.15 | tiroloco | qt and kdelibs they compiled perfectly with this compiler |
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| 04:53.03 | smileaf | I know kdebase compiles with 4.0.2 perfectly fine, I just did that today |
| 04:53.23 | smileaf | I'm not using gentoo tho |
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| 05:00.55 | shdowhawk | Hey all... i'm having some problems with kde... If i set the xorg.conf to anything over 1024x resolution... it doesn't work and goes straight to 2048x1536. I just want 1600x1200 ... suggestions? |
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| 05:02.23 | smileaf | nope... but just a comment.. that's not a KDE problem ;) |
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| 05:03.16 | shdowhawk | hehe, wasn't sure if it was or not... i'm loading right into kde and it wasn't on the right res. =P #xorg ? |
| 05:04.53 | smileaf | yup |
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| 05:18.46 | smileaf | would there be any reason why in my groupware folders on my imap have 16 contacts yet kaddressbook will only show me one if I open it with kmail and then uncheck the resource and check it again in kaddressbook?.... |
| 05:18.59 | parph | Hello. How do you get kde to automount usb devices? I used to be able to plug in my usb device and have kde pop up with a message showing that it was found but now nothing |
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| 05:20.47 | parph | does anyone know how to fix that |
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| 05:21.17 | smileaf | and why is the resource view in kaddress book not have a menu if you right click on the resource like you have in korganizer? :/ |
| 05:23.38 | Tezkah | its a feature! |
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| 05:25.00 | parph | ,,., |
| 05:25.15 | smileaf | Tezkah: bad feature :( |
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| 05:29.18 | Tezkah | parph: go into k menu -> system settings -> storage media |
| 05:29.57 | parph | you mean control center? |
| 05:30.23 | Tezkah | sure if its called something else in yoru version |
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| 05:31.10 | parph | oh ok let me see if this works |
| 05:32.38 | parph | what do i do in there |
| 05:32.44 | parph | my usb device is not listed |
| 05:33.05 | Tezkah | sure it is, "Unmounted Removeable Medium" |
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| 05:33.13 | Tezkah | remember, this is just types of removable media |
| 05:33.21 | parph | I selected that |
| 05:33.39 | Tezkah | did you toggle "open in new window " as auto action! |
| 05:33.55 | parph | hmm no |
| 05:36.44 | parph | i don't see auto action |
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| 05:41.58 | Tezkah | what version of KDE / distro are you running? |
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| 05:55.03 | Sho_ | Pen|s: In a KDE channel? Come on |
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| 05:57.12 | kendrick | what even is shtat? |
| 05:57.23 | kendrick | I've seen that DCC SEND crap on other channels |
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| 05:58.25 | Sho_ | kendrick: Apparently some anti-virus software for Windows has a bug that makes it drop internet connections when those words are sent |
| 05:58.26 | marcusU | How do I compile akode for use KDE 3.5.x using the SVN version of akode? |
| 05:58.38 | kendrick | ok |
| 05:58.47 | kendrick | that's kind of random |
| 05:59.36 | kendrick | http://www.gamesurge.net/forums/FTqbf1TMBX/ |
| 05:59.58 | kendrick | so i guess it's kind of like that IE bug that would cause the browser to crash |
| 06:00.05 | kendrick | so people who hated MS would simply include that HTML in their page |
| 06:00.14 | kendrick | worked fine for everyone else; crashed IE users |
| 06:00.14 | kendrick | heh |
| 06:01.52 | marcusU | the kdesupport configure script checks for Qt 4.1, but akode used to work with KDE 3.x |
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| 06:03.41 | Tezkah | DCC SEND "haha" 0 0 0 |
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| 06:03.51 | Tezkah | that actually closes IRC connections for people with netgear routers |
| 06:04.11 | Tezkah | (with the firewall enabled) |
| 06:04.23 | Tezkah | the startkeylogger was for norton, but it looks like its been patched |
| 06:05.04 | kendrick | oh damn |
| 06:05.06 | kendrick | the routers do it? |
| 06:05.13 | Tezkah | yep |
| 06:05.15 | kendrick | i guess i'm glad i have a lame router ;) |
| 06:05.47 | Tezkah | asusanator: are you at your keyboard? |
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| 06:07.01 | Tezkah | good |
| 06:07.02 | Tezkah | weird |
| 06:07.47 | asusanator | People get over the farking router/norton thing |
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| 06:08.01 | kendrick | OMGWTFDCC! |
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| 06:08.21 | kendrick | asusanator: i just keep seeing it in IRC channels and was wondering wtf was going on |
| 06:09.36 | asusanator | lol true |
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| 06:33.18 | DJ-KING | i am on Mandriva 2006 , i don know what happened , all of a sudden when i open konqueror it gives an error " Could not start process Can't talk to klauncher " |
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| 06:40.33 | thechris | does anyone have a good subversion setup howto. i can't seem to use google due to my campus's lame network |
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| 06:49.22 | madona | hello , Is there a program that retieves me files from kdecache? |
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| 06:50.24 | madona | the files in the tmp/kdecache... directory has a header or something added by kde |
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| 06:51.20 | madona | I want to manage konqueror cached images |
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| 06:52.41 | madona | but the images are modified : the name of the file has a hash (thats not the problem) and the fiel has a header and I dont know what else |
| 06:56.12 | madona | kde hackers? |
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| 07:02.00 | a_thing | Anyone here have an AMD64 system with GNU/Linux? What's the output of uname -p? |
| 07:03.31 | thechris | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ |
| 07:04.33 | a_thing | uname -i? |
| 07:04.44 | thechris | AuthenticAMD |
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| 07:08.15 | a_thing | uname -m? |
| 07:08.25 | thechris | x86_64 |
| 07:08.36 | a_thing | :) That's what I need. |
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| 07:25.31 | Crowbar | Is there somewhere I can read about the details of the upcoming kde4 release? |
| 07:26.17 | Sho_ | Crowbar: There were some articles over at Newsforge |
| 07:26.39 | Sho_ | Crowbar: But a lot is not finalized yet, so you won't find a detailed list of changes anywhere :) |
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| 07:28.57 | Crowbar | Sho_: Thanks. |
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| 07:40.56 | kevin | anyone knows if theres any command word like apt-get on suse? |
| 07:41.52 | Sho_ | #suse will know |
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| 08:05.18 | ahermansson | wich one is best? |
| 08:05.30 | ahermansson | SuSe 10.0 or Kubuntu |
| 08:05.37 | ahermansson | ? |
| 08:06.07 | mijndert | Just try em both and you'll find out |
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| 08:36.53 | rohan | by default, where does konqueror store the adblock filters ? |
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| 08:37.29 | StevenR | rohan: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror |
| 08:37.41 | StevenR | rohan: that's the most logical place anyway |
| 08:37.44 | rohan | StevenR: ok, thanks a lot :) |
| 08:37.52 | rohan | oh, you are guessing :S |
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| 08:39.25 | bushwakko | anyone have the problem of kicker messing up on second screen? |
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| 08:39.37 | bushwakko | I have ati-drivers, dunno if that matters |
| 08:39.57 | bushwakko | the problem is that my main panel is very much misalgned |
| 08:40.11 | bushwakko | it seems that it alignes as if it thought it had the same res as my other screen |
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| 08:40.24 | bushwakko | but I have higher res on the second screen |
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| 08:42.17 | ye_old | in kmail, when I mark messages as spam, that has nothing to do with mails that will come in later? i mean remember-wise: it looks like the last spam mail, so it's probably spam, I'll put it away |
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| 08:45.13 | ye_old | because that's a pity, I have no use for marking a message as spam then, because I can see on it's title(mostly) that it is spam, so what is this marking for if the delete button is one step closer than "mark as spam" ?????? |
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| 08:46.36 | PhilRod | it'll learn if you have a filter rule to run sa-learn or the appropriate command for your anti-spam tool |
| 08:46.53 | PhilRod | kmamil doesn't do any spam filtering itself, it just uses tools like spamassassin or bogofilter |
| 08:46.56 | PhilRod | kmail* |
| 08:47.04 | ye_old | sa-learn.. hm, ok, never heard of it |
| 08:47.11 | PhilRod | do you use spamassassin? |
| 08:47.15 | ye_old | ah, but there are filter rules |
| 08:47.20 | PhilRod | "man sa-learn" is your friend |
| 08:47.27 | ye_old | not yet, but I'm already getting it :) |
| 08:48.36 | ye_old | can I use spamassin also to tidy up on the mailserver? |
| 08:48.45 | ye_old | I mean, clean the spam before it gets to the client? |
| 08:49.06 | PhilRod | yeah, but not via kmail |
| 08:49.22 | ye_old | okay |
| 08:49.23 | PhilRod | ie, if you have access to the mailserver, then yes you can |
| 08:49.54 | ye_old | no I don't, but I saw that on kmail, searching around, that it has got filter rules for deleting mails already on the server |
| 08:51.39 | PhilRod | you can do that for pop accounts, but the available actions are quite restricted compared to normal filters |
| 08:51.42 | ye_old | I whish i could use imap there |
| 08:51.54 | PhilRod | so the answer to your question is that you can't |
| 08:51.59 | PhilRod | IIRC |
| 08:52.08 | PhilRod | I haven't checked the pop filters recently |
| 08:52.24 | ye_old | okies |
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| 09:21.10 | main | hi |
| 09:21.30 | Manik_Chand | hi |
| 09:22.02 | main | why does the monitor blanks out every time i switch between two X sessions? |
| 09:22.20 | main | they are set at the same refresh rate and resolution |
| 09:22.45 | bushwakko | Hi, i'm having multiple bugs here: http://huldreveien.generation.no/~wakko/secondscreen1.jpg |
| 09:22.51 | Manik_Chand | does not happen with me! |
| 09:23.16 | Manik_Chand | main: is it a temporary balck-out of screen? |
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| 09:23.21 | PhilRod | main: ask in an X channel. I assume it has to do with the way that virtual terminals work, or something |
| 09:24.26 | bushwakko | firsly the centered panel at the bottom isn't center at 1280x1024 which I'm running on this screen, but its centered as 1400x1050, wich I'm running on my main screen to the right... also the fonts (dpi) gets messed up after starting gtk apps. started out fine (look at taskbarfonts), but after starting a gtk app they get too small, look at konq's menubar (in the top), they're origianlly the same size! |
| 09:26.39 | Manik_Chand | possibly it is not a pure gtk app |
| 09:26.53 | PhilRod | gtk fonts vs kde fonts is a dpi issue I think - google should be able to turn up something |
| 09:27.03 | Manik_Chand | do you find nautilus running ps-e|grep |
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| 09:32.06 | _main | hmm |
| 09:32.08 | canllaith | It is a dpi issue definitely |
| 09:32.16 | _main | and now my X crashed |
| 09:32.19 | _main | wtf |
| 09:32.21 | canllaith | gnome apps are badly behaved and change the X11 dpi setting |
| 09:32.25 | canllaith | heya PhilRod |
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| 09:33.01 | Manik_Chand | pure gtk apps are more well behaved than gnome apps |
| 09:33.13 | _main | are screens supposed to blank out when i switch between to X sessions? |
| 09:33.16 | Manik_Chand | gnome apps tend to launch nautilus and do wierd things |
| 09:33.21 | _main | im confused |
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| 09:36.07 | _main | odd |
| 09:36.22 | _main | sometimes it blanks out, sometimes the switch is smooth. |
| 09:36.50 | bushwakko | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123157 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123156 <-- please confirm if possible! |
| 09:37.02 | GraveDigger | moinmoin |
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| 09:38.15 | genocide_ | hello |
| 09:38.22 | genocide_ | where can i find kprojekt ? :/ |
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| 09:40.00 | genocide_ | ah its kplato.. |
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| 09:40.47 | PhilRod | canllaith! how're you? |
| 09:41.40 | sobukus | Hi folks! |
| 09:42.14 | Aison | is it possible that symbol lock to grid dont work under kde 3.5.1? |
| 09:42.20 | Aison | on the desktop |
| 09:42.25 | canllaith | PhilRod: great, thanks :) |
| 09:42.42 | canllaith | Trying to get two articles finished and clean the house, been hectic today. |
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| 09:43.41 | PhilRod | hectic here too - far too much work + extracurricular stuff, and PhD interviews |
| 09:44.10 | canllaith | oh, you're going to go through to a phd ? |
| 09:44.21 | canllaith | was that a hard decision ? |
| 09:45.29 | sobukus | I installed a kde box for friend of mine and he brought up an idea: he was assuming that he could click on the little mount indicator inside a CD/DVD/USB drive's icon on the desktop to unmount the device... it seems to be an intuitive feature (kindof imagemap on icons). Thoughts? |
| 09:46.05 | Manik_Chand | OOps! click to unmount? |
| 09:46.08 | PhilRod | canllaith: not really - I'm still enjoying physics, and the alternative is some 9-5 job |
| 09:46.25 | PhilRod | although deciding which area of physics to go into is a little harder |
| 09:46.32 | canllaith | Yeah :) I can imagine |
| 09:46.39 | sobukus | Manik_Chand: otherwise it's right-click, select unmount... |
| 09:46.48 | PhilRod | I have an offer to do particle physics here in oxford, but I've applied elsewhere for astrophysics |
| 09:46.55 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: is it not a bit too-much? |
| 09:47.12 | canllaith | I've just started writing KDE related stuff for linux journal this year, although nothing has been published yet (tis in the very long pipeline) |
| 09:47.20 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: right click to unmount is better |
| 09:47.28 | canllaith | Sadly writing for a living has made me less likely to want to sit down and write for KDE after I'm done though |
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| 09:48.08 | sobukus | Manik-Chand: I just thought that since kde wants to be friendly to unexperienced users, It may be of interest that one actually tried this |
| 09:48.51 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: 3 pronged approach |
| 09:48.56 | sobukus | Manik_Chaud: ? |
| 09:49.07 | Manik_Chand | sobukus:first a mock-up |
| 09:49.14 | PhilRod | canllaith: yeah, I fear the same will happen when I start PhD and spend the hours of 9-5 in front of a keyboard |
| 09:49.19 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: second a demo |
| 09:49.27 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: third is coding |
| 09:49.32 | _main | is kde going to work with xgl? |
| 09:49.36 | canllaith | Oh well, we'll see what happens. I'm so thrilled I get to be paid for promoting how cool KDE is right now |
| 09:49.49 | thechris | anyone here familar with subversion? |
| 09:49.57 | canllaith | Although I have some gnomey articles coming up as well, but that just gives me even more appreciation for how sane KDE is |
| 09:50.01 | canllaith | thechris: yup |
| 09:50.19 | thechris | canllaith: i have svnserve on a computer. what do i use as a URL |
| 09:51.27 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.27 | thechris | my connection seems to have issues with http... |
| 09:51.32 | canllaith | then use ssh |
| 09:51.45 | canllaith | svn+ssh://<ip address or hostname here>/path/to/repository/here |
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| 09:52.18 | sobukus | Manik_Chaud: hm, of course you advise me to try it myself;-) Unfurtunately, I won't have time hacking kde - besides not using kde much myself anyway; I just wanted to bring the idea of my friend to some ears. |
| 09:52.28 | Manik_Chand | canllaith: why not write at KDE wiki? |
| 09:52.56 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: Just perform the first 2 steps. |
| 09:52.59 | canllaith | Manik_Chand: I now have tens of thousands of words of KDE documentation and promotion already. I think some of my work is already on the wiki. |
| 09:53.17 | sobukus | Manik_Chaud: not sure I understand really how to do them |
| 09:53.23 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: If they are good they will perform the 3rd step |
| 09:53.49 | thechris | canllaith: actually it droped my conneciton. my campus sucks... |
| 09:54.00 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: Just go to KOffice competition page and pull off some submissions |
| 09:54.07 | thechris | canllaith: i have svnserve set up. what would a valid URL be? |
| 09:54.09 | sobukus | Manik_Chand: is a mock-up kindof movie that shows the behaviour (with tricks)? |
| 09:54.17 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: Actually the results page. |
| 09:54.18 | sobukus | hm |
| 09:54.19 | canllaith | thechris: probably better off to look up some subversion how-tos rather than ask in a KDE user channel :) |
| 09:54.32 | PhilRod | or even try #subversion |
| 09:54.33 | thechris | canllaith: thats where the issues with http come in... |
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| 09:55.07 | thechris | while i might get 3 second lag, or 30 second drops, its still better then http. |
| 09:56.35 | sobukus | Manik_Chand: Sorry for bothering, but where is the results page? |
| 09:57.32 | thechris | right now i'm trying to ssh to another computer to use lynx to check my gmail. its not working. seems i now have cause to stab someone in the ear. |
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| 09:58.06 | Manik_Chand | sobukus: http://www.koffice.org/competition/gui1results.php |
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| 09:59.15 | sobukus | Manik_Chand: thanks |
| 10:00.02 | Narada | hi what package do you use to rotate an image by 90 or 180 degrees |
| 10:00.21 | sobukus | gimp with script-fu or netpbm |
| 10:01.23 | Narada | and any kde packages? |
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| 10:01.32 | sobukus | ups |
| 10:01.45 | sobukus | of course kolorpaint should doo it, too |
| 10:01.51 | sobukus | kolourpaint? |
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| 10:04.44 | Narada | thanks |
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| 10:27.51 | se68295 | is it possible to build kdelibs with qt-embedded? |
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| 10:29.01 | thechris | anyone use subversion and kdevelop? |
| 10:29.34 | hn | hi, I run several KDE apps under gnome (mostly Kate), I was wondering where I can change the click/doubl-click to open file/folder in file listings behaviour |
| 10:29.49 | hn | I have checked all the settings in kcontrol but I couldn't find anything |
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| 10:30.25 | PhilRod | hn: control center -> peripherals -> mouse |
| 10:30.53 | hn | PhilRod: thank you |
| 10:32.54 | pulver | the default program icons shown in the pager and taskbar, where are those located? |
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| 10:34.40 | thechris | how do i create apps for use with svn in kdevelop. it cannot ever create the files... |
| 10:35.15 | PhilRod | pulver: defined by .desktop files. The icons are located in $KDEDIR/share/icons/<bla> |
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| 10:37.07 | pulver | PhilRod, ah ok thank you |
| 10:38.08 | rdale | thechris: turn on svn with the project options, and use the 'Add to Repository' rmb menu item |
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| 10:44.01 | thechris | rdale: where do i right click to get that menu? |
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| 10:48.40 | rdale | on the tab at the top of the source code window with the source name in it |
| 10:50.11 | thechris | rdale: hmm, i don't have that. btw, how does it know what svn to use? there seems to be no way to specify |
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| 10:51.42 | rdale | thechris: I suppose I've only used it with an existing svn project |
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| 10:52.05 | thechris | rdale: hmm, i wonder how you are supposed to make new projects |
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| 10:53.41 | rdale | Maybe add the project directory to the svn from the command line, then once you done that you can use kdevelop? |
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| 10:57.13 | thechris | yeah, i can't figure it out |
| 10:57.27 | madona | hello , Is there a program that retieves me files from kdecache? |
| 10:57.29 | thechris | seems like there should be a way to do it from the client |
| 10:57.42 | madona | I want to manage konqueror cached images |
| 10:57.56 | madona | but the images are modified : the name of the file has a hash (thats not the problem) and the fiel has a header and I dont know what else |
| 10:58.48 | madona | files in the tmp/kdecache... directory has a header or something added by kde |
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| 12:11.15 | Oleg_ | People, I am trying to burn an image on a DVD and get the message: |
| 12:11.37 | Oleg_ | Found media: DVD+R (empty) |
| 12:12.16 | Oleg_ | Please insert an empty DVD+-R(W) in the drive |
| 12:12.50 | Oleg_ | I hit the Force button and get: |
| 12:13.18 | Oleg_ | ":-( unable to anonymously mmap 67108864: Resource temporarily unavailable" |
| 12:13.26 | qupada | hmmm, force works for me in that situation |
| 12:13.45 | qupada | you've run k3bsetup2 to do groups and device permissions |
| 12:15.14 | Oleg_ | but I am running k3b as su- user |
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| 12:15.49 | qupada | running as root? |
| 12:16.27 | Oleg_ | as su- |
| 12:18.25 | qupada | hmmm. try configuring the burning/cdrw/whatever group with k3bsetup2 and running as your user |
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| 12:20.53 | TIBS01 | ello |
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| 12:25.55 | kbrooks | Hey all. What's up with KDE lately? |
| 12:26.18 | kbrooks | i hear that KDE 4 will use JavaScript. Is this true? |
| 12:26.28 | kbrooks | Can anyone confirm this? |
| 12:26.39 | Narada_ | what's that program called that allows you to start typing the name of a command and it brings up icons to let you choose? |
| 12:27.33 | Narada_ | like quicksilver on mac os x? |
| 12:29.19 | thiago | kbrooks: huh? We already use JavaScript... |
| 12:29.22 | thiago | Konqueror, for instance |
| 12:30.10 | rdale | the default scripting language for kde4 apps will be javascript, but other scripting languages might be supported too |
| 12:30.23 | kbrooks | rdale: thanks. |
| 12:30.27 | thiago | right, what richard said :-) |
| 12:30.34 | kbrooks | rdale: what will kde 4 have? |
| 12:30.43 | thiago | kbrooks: JavaScript as a scripting language |
| 12:30.51 | kbrooks | other than that |
| 12:30.55 | thiago | lots of things |
| 12:31.04 | thiago | could you be any more vague? :-) |
| 12:31.07 | kbrooks | like? 2 examples? |
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| 12:31.15 | thiago | Plasma, Oxygen |
| 12:31.34 | Narada_ | kbrooks: http://dot.kde.org/1141216150/ |
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| 12:31.55 | kbrooks | thiago: what are those? |
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| 12:32.21 | eeaaxx | is there a plugin in kdevelop that can create test cases? |
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| 12:32.56 | thiago | kbrooks: you asked for examples of things that don't exist yet |
| 12:33.00 | thiago | kbrooks: I gave you two |
| 12:33.00 | Narada_ | kbrooks: follow the newsforge link from that page; it includes info about those things |
| 12:33.29 | thiago | kbrooks: I can also tell you KDE 4 will have... Konqueror! Great surprise :-) |
| 12:33.31 | thiago | Kontact too. |
| 12:33.47 | kbrooks | will they be greatly enchanced |
| 12:33.50 | GraveDigger | lol |
| 12:33.53 | Narada_ | heh |
| 12:34.02 | thiago | kbrooks: what do you think? |
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| 12:34.05 | GraveDigger | kde without konqi? i cant imagine |
| 12:34.15 | kbrooks | what possibilties does javascript as the default scripting language open up? |
| 12:34.52 | Narada_ | kbrooks: for the last time read that link; it talks about the basis behind scripting |
| 12:34.52 | thiago | kbrooks: just per se, nothing |
| 12:34.52 | GraveDigger | kbrooks: it lets you easily annoy people with ugly and useless shit |
| 12:35.11 | thiago | we want to be able to control advanced features with scripts, instead of relying on crowding our settings dialogs even more |
| 12:35.34 | smileaf | GraveDigger: some could say the same about alot of good scripting languages too tho |
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| 12:36.42 | GraveDigger | smileaf: indeed, but for javascript this is a known fact! |
| 12:37.11 | smileaf | GraveDigger: true.. however what scripting language can you always expect to be on the system that's running the kde program? |
| 12:37.33 | GraveDigger | pythong |
| 12:37.35 | sobukus | it's the general idea of client-side scripting in web pages, not the language used to do it |
| 12:37.36 | GraveDigger | *python |
| 12:37.40 | thiago | GraveDigger: JavaScript |
| 12:37.41 | smileaf | I don't have python |
| 12:37.50 | smileaf | I don't want python. |
| 12:37.55 | smileaf | :) |
| 12:37.56 | GraveDigger | python is great |
| 12:37.57 | sobukus | JavaScript will always be where Konqueror is... |
| 12:38.00 | thiago | we can be sure that that one is available because we will install it |
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| 12:38.12 | kbrooks | i love it. |
| 12:38.25 | kbrooks | the ideas of KDE 4 |
| 12:38.26 | smileaf | GraveDigger: you also forget that kde is going to systems where python isn't going to be installed by default. |
| 12:38.40 | kbrooks | smileaf: C++? g++? |
| 12:38.43 | thiago | smileaf: until a short while ago, that wasn't going to be possible |
| 12:38.51 | GraveDigger | smileaf: come on, this is nonesense.. *ANY* scripting engine MUST be available ... |
| 12:38.53 | smileaf | kbrooks: those are not scripting languages. |
| 12:38.56 | thiago | smileaf: Python was going to be a requirement for building (not running) KDE. |
| 12:39.15 | kbrooks | thiago: then? |
| 12:39.15 | smileaf | thiago: maybe, but not running :) |
| 12:39.20 | sobukus | thiago: hope that kde avoids m$ troubles with active scripting working with and manipulating the whole system from web browser... |
| 12:39.30 | GraveDigger | smileaf: you cant setup something like kde upon nothin ... |
| 12:39.32 | kbrooks | smileaf: he said '(not running)'. |
| 12:39.48 | smileaf | kbrooks: I saw that.. what point are you making? |
| 12:40.18 | GraveDigger | thiago: but what about superkaramba and plasma in future? but heavily require python while runtime to work properly |
| 12:40.29 | rdale | kross works with ruby and python, so I assume it can be made to work with javascript too |
| 12:40.33 | smileaf | GraveDigger: yes .. and in this case a scripting language *is* always going to be there.. because kde is providing it ;) |
| 12:40.48 | thiago | GraveDigger: JavaScript will be the *main* language |
| 12:40.51 | GraveDigger | smileaf: and this will be javascript??? |
| 12:40.53 | kbrooks | fwhy? |
| 12:40.58 | kbrooks | thiago: why? |
| 12:40.59 | thiago | kbrooks: because we decided |
| 12:41.17 | lunitik | rdale: ahhh... Kross isn't a new scripting language... just... a mechanism to use others? |
| 12:41.20 | GraveDigger | thiago: so that python with plasma work independently? |
| 12:41.27 | rdale | lunitik: yes |
| 12:41.30 | smileaf | I maybe not a fan of javascript either.. but the choice seems very wise. |
| 12:41.33 | thiago | GraveDigger: Plasma can support Python if they want (they probably do) |
| 12:41.41 | thiago | GraveDigger: but JavaScript will still be the main one |
| 12:41.46 | GraveDigger | oh |
| 12:41.49 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 12:41.52 | GraveDigger | okay |
| 12:42.43 | smileaf | Ok back to my kcontrol module :P |
| 12:42.56 | GraveDigger | thiago: what about kde's future configuration system? has there any decision been made? i have heard rumors and even read that *elektra* should be used |
| 12:43.14 | smileaf | there any other value that has to be in a .desktop file within ~/.kde/Autostart other than Exec and Type ? |
| 12:43.30 | thiago | GraveDigger: we're also moving to agnostic |
| 12:43.39 | GraveDigger | smileaf: .desktop files in the Autostart? hmmm... i only have shell scripts in there |
| 12:43.45 | thiago | GraveDigger: I don't expect to move away from INI-style ones as the default, though |
| 12:44.22 | GraveDigger | thiago: well, i hope so .. cauz the imagination of windows-style registry for kde makes me mad! :( |
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| 12:44.59 | GraveDigger | pah, call /opt/kde4/bin/kregedit in future ... OMG |
| 12:45.01 | GraveDigger | >:( |
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| 12:45.24 | lunitik | GraveDigger: its not THAT bad, so long as it doesn't happen like with GNOME (ie, just taking options away from GUI's, and sticking them in there...) |
| 12:45.46 | lunitik | Thats not useability, thats unintuitive, and retarded... |
| 12:47.50 | GraveDigger | lunitik: yeah, like linus' said... |
| 12:48.17 | lunitik | GraveDigger: yeah, I don't pay attn to what Linus says wrt Desktops :/ |
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| 12:55.34 | GraveDigger | lunitik: well, i *really* expect kde4 to become something really great, but i would hate to have something unclear and obscure like a registry for it. u know, i often enough see papers and books like: "the greatest windows registry tweaks", "secrets to make your windows more fast/reliable/safe/whatever". |
| 12:56.20 | GraveDigger | lunitik: and i get mad about such nonesense ... about shit that describes how to tweak even more shitty crap below |
| 12:56.31 | GraveDigger | lunitik: i dont want something similar to happen to kde |
| 12:56.33 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 12:56.39 | lunitik | GraveDigger: beats the hell outta wondering through the kde conf files for things... there is a lot you can't do via the GUI atm... |
| 12:57.22 | lunitik | GraveDigger: I just hope they don't make things harder to do in KDE4 than they are now in the name of useability... |
| 12:57.23 | smileaf | GraveDigger: that's really what those books are for... to get at things that don't have a dialog. |
| 12:59.13 | lunitik | There I was thinking it meant MAKE THINGS EASIER AND MORE COMPREHENSIBLE FOR USERS |
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| 12:59.21 | rdale | the kde approach is 'make everything so configurable, and they forget they wanted to do it' :) |
| 12:59.45 | GraveDigger | smileaf: true, but other than M$ kde does not attempt to hide options from the user pretending they are too "advanced" for them... |
| 13:00.14 | lunitik | rdale: naw... everything is very organized... |
| 13:00.21 | GraveDigger | lunitik: well, i dont think this will happen... |
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| 13:00.31 | smileaf | GraveDigger: you sure that's even their goal? :) they could be lazy like the rest of us :D |
| 13:00.37 | GraveDigger | lunitik: i think it *is* going to be easier to be configured |
| 13:00.39 | lunitik | rdale: people complain about menus, but mines in my panel, and I rarely wonder into them less I know what I wanna do :/ |
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| 13:01.21 | GraveDigger | smileaf: erm... .... |
| 13:01.47 | smileaf | lol :) |
| 13:02.00 | lunitik | As for Kcontrol, I think kde-system-settings should become default... |
| 13:02.13 | lunitik | Although it should have a shorter name! |
| 13:02.33 | rdale | kubuntu has a very nice system settings app |
| 13:02.53 | lunitik | rdale: kubuntu uses kde-system-settings ;) |
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| 13:03.19 | GraveDigger | smileaf: well, okay ... this would be a argument AGAINT elektra or shit ... why bothering with changing the config system then? |
| 13:04.16 | smileaf | GraveDigger: who knows. ask the KDE people. |
| 13:04.46 | rdale | so system settings is a kde app - I didn't know that, I thought it was kubuntu only |
| 13:05.28 | lunitik | rdale: its just like kcontrol... a shell for kcm's |
| 13:05.44 | lunitik | (I think thats what they are called; kde configuration modules?) |
| 13:06.41 | lunitik | rdale: they're all different apps, everything you click on in there... pretty cool :) |
| 13:07.22 | rdale | the trouble is, until kubuntu make system settings my default, I never even noticed kde had it |
| 13:07.39 | lunitik | rdale: its not in regular kde :/ |
| 13:07.45 | rdale | ah |
| 13:08.04 | lunitik | rdale: just like amarok, kaffeine etc aren't either :/ |
| 13:08.18 | lunitik | although they really outta be for kde4 imo |
| 13:08.24 | isit-love | i got an easy question: how to sent the PKG_CONF variable? |
| 13:08.48 | thiago | isit-love: first of all, you need to spell it correctly |
| 13:08.52 | lunitik | isit-love: export PKG_CONF='some shit" |
| 13:09.00 | isit-love | thx :) |
| 13:09.00 | lunitik | ' not " |
| 13:09.07 | thiago | isit-love: PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/path/to/the/dir |
| 13:09.39 | lunitik | thiago: uhh... you need 'export', else the shell knows nothing about wtf you mean |
| 13:10.03 | thiago | in theory, you don't need export |
| 13:10.10 | isit-love | and if i reboot? |
| 13:10.14 | isit-love | is it still there=? |
| 13:10.16 | thiago | then you have to set it again |
| 13:10.17 | lunitik | isit-love: no |
| 13:10.27 | thiago | isit-love: this is not the channel for that kind of question |
| 13:10.34 | isit-love | i know |
| 13:10.35 | lunitik | isit-love: if you log out, its gone, less you put it in your .bashrc |
| 13:10.45 | isit-love | ok |
| 13:10.47 | smileaf | unless of course you want that var to be set in a higher scope than what your currently in. |
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| 13:11.32 | smileaf | wait.. this is #kde? :P |
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| 13:13.01 | isit-love | ok it works :) |
| 13:13.33 | isit-love | i asked it in #kde cause im compiling kde at the moment and i got some errors with fontconfig and pkg |
| 13:13.40 | isit-love | *pkg-config |
| 13:15.03 | thiago | it would help if we knew what errors you were getting |
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| 13:18.05 | isit-love | i just fixed the error |
| 13:18.12 | isit-love | with pkg-config |
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| 13:32.19 | Egyptian[Home] | hi .. could someone tell me how to sort my kmenu applications on fc4 automatically .. its all cluttered |
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| 13:34.02 | DeadS0ul | I don't think you can |
| 13:35.00 | Egyptian[Home] | DeadS0ul: how does mandriva do it then? ..its all neat and whenever a program is installed it automatically goes into the proper submenu |
| 13:35.20 | GraveDigger | well, on suse this is the same |
| 13:35.33 | rdale | kubuntu is very tidy too |
| 13:35.39 | DeadS0ul | beats me |
| 13:35.43 | DeadS0ul | so is debian |
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| 13:38.02 | renewip | Im being in a KDE session. How to start a new console session? which command? |
| 13:38.22 | GraveDigger | renewip: hit alt+f2 and enter "konsole" |
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| 13:39.38 | DeadS0ul | do you always use the run dialog lol |
| 13:39.46 | GraveDigger | well |
| 13:39.48 | GraveDigger | very often |
| 13:39.51 | GraveDigger | indeed |
| 13:39.56 | DeadS0ul | heh |
| 13:40.12 | DeadS0ul | ever tried the shortcut key features? |
| 13:40.18 | DeadS0ul | I've seen'em but never used'em |
| 13:41.38 | GraveDigger | oh sure |
| 13:41.39 | GraveDigger | well |
| 13:41.44 | GraveDigger | i sometimes even use them |
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| 13:41.55 | Thrain | hello |
| 13:42.03 | DeadS0ul | heya |
| 13:42.09 | DeadS0ul | GraveDigger: really? how do they work? |
| 13:42.09 | GraveDigger | but far more i love stuff like drawing a "K" on the desktop with the mouse and have kde open konqi for me then |
| 13:42.25 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: set it up in the kmenu editor |
| 13:42.26 | Thrain | have I something to do to get java web start working with konqueror? |
| 13:42.43 | DeadS0ul | thrain yeah install java |
| 13:42.47 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: you have the option do define key combinations for each menu entry that the k menu has |
| 13:42.50 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: installed... |
| 13:42.53 | DeadS0ul | and then, I think set the search path |
| 13:43.03 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: java already works |
| 13:43.09 | Thrain | and konqueror is aware of it |
| 13:43.15 | Thrain | applets go fine |
| 13:43.26 | DeadS0ul | what's wrong then =O |
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| 13:43.35 | DeadS0ul | GraveDigger: is that from kgestures? |
| 13:43.38 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: http://haeger.homeip.net/demo.html |
| 13:43.51 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: khotkeys that is |
| 13:43.53 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: try to click on "Start WebCDcreator" |
| 13:44.06 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: are you asked to download a file? |
| 13:44.17 | DeadS0ul | um lemme check |
| 13:44.20 | DeadS0ul | but I don't have java instaleld |
| 13:44.36 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: it great - i also love to have opera-style mouse gestures with konqi - i just cant live without anymore |
| 13:44.39 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 13:44.41 | DeadS0ul | GraveDigger: yeah that's it |
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| 13:44.51 | DeadS0ul | GraveDigger: haha i read bout that, lemme set it up now. |
| 13:44.58 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: ok... |
| 13:45.03 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: its all adjustable within kcontrol |
| 13:45.04 | DeadS0ul | GraveDigger: only thing is that I use gimp to do a lot of drawing |
| 13:45.31 | DeadS0ul | Thrain: asked to save a file |
| 13:45.33 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: doesnt matter - khotkeys sets up mouse gestures for window classes, independently from the toolkits the programs use |
| 13:45.48 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: you could very well setup mouse gestures for gimp, xmms or whatever |
| 13:45.50 | DeadS0ul | sweet |
| 13:45.54 | Thrain | DeadS0ul: thanks |
| 13:46.34 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: next step i am about to realize is to control my computer via voice commands |
| 13:46.39 | GraveDigger | spoken into the mic |
| 13:46.40 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 13:47.20 | DeadS0ul | !!!! |
| 13:47.21 | DeadS0ul | how? |
| 13:47.21 | GraveDigger | KDE is capable of this, since IBM has integrated its "via voice" tech into Qt (together with trolltech, of course) |
| 13:47.40 | GraveDigger | well, this is what i need to find out myself |
| 13:47.44 | GraveDigger | :/ |
| 13:47.48 | DeadS0ul | you're kidding |
| 13:47.48 | GraveDigger | (,too) |
| 13:47.51 | GraveDigger | nope |
| 13:47.52 | DeadS0ul | when did they do that? |
| 13:47.55 | GraveDigger | i am not kidding |
| 13:48.00 | GraveDigger | a *KNOW* that kde can do this |
| 13:48.09 | GraveDigger | i just dont know *how* |
| 13:48.26 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: anwhere between qt-3.2 and 3.3 |
| 13:50.03 | DeadS0ul | ! |
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| 13:50.10 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: http://www.trolltech.com/newsroom/announcements/00000028.html |
| 13:50.12 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
| 13:50.34 | Kakihara | I need to take kde off one of my machines. Which packages apart fron the kde-base packages should be removed? |
| 13:51.32 | DeadS0ul | arts, and libqt-mt |
| 13:51.33 | thiago | GraveDigger: voice recognition is a feature in KDE, not Qt |
| 13:52.12 | GraveDigger | thiago: hu? hmm... okay |
| 13:52.34 | GraveDigger | DeadS0ul: i was wrong, its a kde feature, not a qt' one |
| 13:52.48 | DeadS0ul | eh no way |
| 13:52.58 | DeadS0ul | , it will be possible to control Qt-based Linux desktop applications with speech input that is as simple as -- if not more simple than -- keyboard input |
| 13:53.32 | Kakihara | DeadS0ul: arts is a base package isn;t it? I got rid of it. Gentoo wants to reinstall kde-env, arts & dev when I emerge -D world |
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| 13:54.36 | DeadS0ul | hmm not sure what else you'd have to get rid of |
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| 13:55.53 | DeadS0ul | ..man gotta love jasmine tea |
| 13:57.08 | isit-love | how to start kde on startup (im running debian sarge, and compiled kde3.5.1) |
| 13:57.19 | mobtek | nah I like real tea with real caffeine :) |
| 13:57.45 | bbt | how can i set up that kde clear / restore desktop applet? |
| 14:00.13 | GraveDigger | mobtek: caffeine is part of coffee, tea only's got teeine |
| 14:01.00 | lippel | GraveDigger: which is the same |
| 14:01.35 | mobtek | hehe |
| 14:01.38 | GraveDigger | :) |
| 14:02.02 | mobtek | I want tea with cocoa-ine in it :) |
| 14:02.29 | GraveDigger | ilike tea with THC in it |
| 14:02.30 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 14:02.39 | GraveDigger | sometimes at least |
| 14:02.54 | mobtek | hahah there was a great anti-dope poster here in the '50s |
| 14:03.12 | GraveDigger | great, one is in my room here, too |
| 14:03.12 | mobtek | with warning about 'Pot Dealers' putting 'The Dope' in "The Tea' |
| 14:03.21 | GraveDigger | hehe |
| 14:03.32 | DeadS0ul | isit-love: you install kdm |
| 14:03.35 | mobtek | or in "The Biscuit' |
| 14:03.38 | mobtek | kekeke |
| 14:03.40 | GraveDigger | i have a "no power to the drugs" poster in my room |
| 14:03.48 | GraveDigger | its good to have one when parents visit me |
| 14:03.49 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 14:03.54 | mobtek | warning: if your tea cake is bright green, IT' |
| 14:03.57 | mobtek | S TEH DOPE |
| 14:03.58 | mobtek | :P |
| 14:04.03 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
| 14:04.05 | mobtek | haha GraveDigger |
| 14:04.27 | GraveDigger | *gggg+ |
| 14:04.29 | GraveDigger | *gggg* |
| 14:04.41 | DeadS0ul | lol |
| 14:06.10 | DeadS0ul | anyone know what i can use to shrink a whole bunch picutres. 6Megapixels is a bit too big |
| 14:06.30 | GraveDigger | imagemagick |
| 14:06.52 | DeadS0ul | i don't wanan have to code a script =| |
| 14:07.04 | Skrot | DigiKam can do batch jobs methinks |
| 14:07.24 | DeadS0ul | lemme check it out |
| 14:07.30 | Skrot | Such as resize |
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| 14:09.46 | GraveDigger | LOL |
| 14:10.01 | GraveDigger | kaudiocreator reads cd audio via loopback from an audio-cd-image |
| 14:10.02 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 14:10.04 | GraveDigger | great thing |
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| 14:14.10 | DeadS0ul | what is that? |
| 14:14.46 | GraveDigger | a cd ripper |
| 14:16.30 | mobtek | DeadS0ul: I think there is a kommander script on kde-apps to do the image resize thing as well |
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| 14:17.22 | DexterF | hi |
| 14:18.09 | DexterF | migrated from sylpheed to kmail (or, I'm at it). there are some messages in sylpheed that ain't in kmail yet because of a gap due to migration time and some new in kmail already. |
| 14:18.17 | DexterF | is there a wa to merge both? |
| 14:18.38 | pinotree | export them in mbox format and import them in kmail |
| 14:19.02 | pinotree | DexterF: ^ |
| 14:19.25 | DexterF | won't already existing messages be doubled? |
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| 14:20.00 | BlackBsd304 | I have a irc nick that is logged in and i need to log out? anyone know how can i can sign into my BlackBsd nick? |
| 14:20.03 | DexterF | pinotree: i.e., will I have an inbox full of doublettes? |
| 14:20.23 | DexterF | ah, ill make a test folder |
| 14:20.29 | pinotree | DexterF: not all the messages, only the new ones |
| 14:20.29 | GraveDigger | BlackBsd304: have you registered that nick? |
| 14:20.36 | BlackBsd304 | yes |
| 14:20.42 | BlackBsd304 | it should not be online |
| 14:20.42 | GraveDigger | BlackBsd304: if so, ghost it and get it back |
| 14:20.47 | DexterF | hmm. |
| 14:20.48 | pinotree | yeah |
| 14:20.50 | BlackBsd304 | how do i do thata |
| 14:20.57 | GraveDigger | BlackBsd304: /msg NickServ GHOST BlackBsd <yourpassword> |
| 14:21.05 | DeadS0ul | wow digkam is being a dick |
| 14:22.33 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
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| 14:30.15 | BlackBsd | thanks guys for the irc tips.. |
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| 14:33.26 | BlackBsd | now, my question.. Does anyone have sirius satelite radio? ive been trying to get this to work on linux for some time now.. |
| 14:33.43 | BlackBsd | i got it to work with firefox and ?mplayer?.. |
| 14:33.54 | BlackBsd | how can i get konqueror to use mplayer? |
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| 14:34.43 | BlackBsd | when i look at the plugins for konqueror, it says that its has access to mplayer, but does not work for me.. |
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| 14:35.06 | _Dark | bonjour |
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| 14:36.48 | DeadS0ul | use kaffeine |
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| 14:37.22 | BlackBsd | kaffeine is just a front end for mplayer? right? |
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| 14:37.55 | BlackBsd | i need to go the the sirius website and log and and then the media player is embedded into the browser.. |
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| 14:38.27 | BlackBsd | when using firefox, mplayer just embeds and begins to play. |
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| 14:38.52 | BlackBsd | in konqureor, the media player never embeds |
| 14:38.58 | BlackBsd | so no sound |
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| 14:43.21 | Narada | what programming editors do you guys use? kdevelop? |
| 14:43.36 | DeadS0ul | some use that |
| 14:44.32 | sobukus | kate is nice when you got the power |
| 14:45.04 | rdale | kdevelop even uses kate |
| 14:45.09 | livingtm | Im running Debian Sarge. I cant seem to get the samba server config to show up in the KDE control center. Anyone know how to do this? |
| 14:46.16 | DeadS0ul | samba server config? |
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| 14:47.26 | DeadS0ul | apt-get install kdenetwork-filesharing |
| 14:47.32 | livingtm | I have two machines and one shows samba config in control center and one does not |
| 14:47.52 | livingtm | right below "proxy" |
| 14:47.57 | DeadS0ul | and you have to have samba server installed |
| 14:48.14 | sredna | rdale: -> #kate |
| 14:48.17 | livingtm | DeadS0ul, sambaserver is installed. |
| 14:49.33 | DeadS0ul | yeah i'm tyring to find the other one , hang on |
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| 14:52.05 | sikor_sxe | when i put pop3://something in the konq address bar, a dialog appears which asks me wether i want to open it in kmail or safe |
| 14:52.17 | sikor_sxe | i want it displayed in konqueror, tho |
| 14:52.29 | DeadS0ul | livingtm: can't find it |
| 14:52.39 | DeadS0ul | but I thik it might be kdenetwork-filesharing |
| 14:52.40 | livingtm | DeadS0ul, me either |
| 14:52.58 | sredna | sikor_sxe: Konqueror does not know what to do with it |
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| 14:53.25 | sikor_sxe | sredna: there is no pop3 kio slave installed you mean? |
| 14:53.26 | sredna | sikor_sxe: You'd need a kpart that could display your data for that |
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| 14:53.35 | Jimmy___ | helleuw |
| 14:53.46 | Jimmy___ | I have a question concerning konsole |
| 14:53.51 | sikor_sxe | sredna: uhm, isn't a kio slave sufficient? |
| 14:54.01 | Jimmy___ | I have a few tabs that I want to keep when restarting of starting konsole |
| 14:54.10 | Jimmy___ | so I saved a session profile |
| 14:54.20 | DeadS0ul | hey livingtm what version of kde are you running? |
| 14:54.23 | Jimmy___ | (I don't know if this has anything to do with the tabs) |
| 14:54.25 | livingtm | 3.2 |
| 14:54.33 | livingtm | on both machines |
| 14:54.37 | Jimmy___ | but everytime konsole restarts, my tabs are gone |
| 14:54.40 | DeadS0ul | ah |
| 14:54.43 | DeadS0ul | its' part of kde 3.3 |
| 14:54.54 | Jimmy___ | so I'm either doing something wrong, or I don't know what I'm doing :p |
| 14:55.00 | DeadS0ul | http://ksambakdeplugin.sourceforge.net/download.html |
| 14:55.13 | DeadS0ul | the deb package for it is there though =] |
| 14:55.19 | sredna | sikor_sxe: Uhm, it appears that there is a kio slave for it. I never tried it though. I don't know what it's supposed ot display |
| 14:55.22 | livingtm | DeadS0ul, damn your right.. i thought they were both the same rev.. but your right |
| 14:55.35 | DeadS0ul | i wasn't right |
| 14:55.37 | DeadS0ul | google was |
| 14:56.11 | sikor_sxe | sredna: well at least i have one installed :/ |
| 14:57.23 | Jimmy___ | anyone? ;p |
| 15:00.34 | dec0ding | anyone using KMLDonkey ? |
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| 15:08.58 | Narada | is there a sql modelling tool in kde at all; (i'm hating db designer :( ) |
| 15:09.09 | livingtm | DeadS0ul, I neve seem to google the right thing. I got all kinds of help on how to USE the configuration, but not how to get it to show up if its missing |
| 15:10.05 | StevenR | Narada: what do you mean exactly? like access/paradox but for sql? |
| 15:10.22 | DeadS0ul | add deb to the end of it |
| 15:10.46 | Narada | I mean something to do data modelling and design that can autogenerate sql and reverse engineer from db; especially for mysql |
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| 15:11.23 | Narada | er diagrams, entities, tables, fields, field types everything basically but diagramatically |
| 15:11.28 | StevenR | Narada: there are some db apps on kde-apps.org |
| 15:11.37 | DeadS0ul | Narada, phpmyadmin? |
| 15:11.52 | DeadS0ul | there's also kexi, but it's still beta |
| 15:11.57 | Narada | DeadS0ul: That is something different to what I need. |
| 15:12.10 | DeadS0ul | ah |
| 15:12.41 | Narada | I mean like 100% diagramatically; not web app. |
| 15:12.53 | DeadS0ul | kexi is like ms access |
| 15:13.06 | DeadS0ul | and I think it has a few diagram tools in it |
| 15:13.18 | StevenR | Narada: umbrello does uml modelling, it might do other stuff too |
| 15:13.20 | DeadS0ul | but I don't think it'll take you that far |
| 15:13.21 | Narada_ | DeadS0ul: http://fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/screenshot_image.php?screenshot=dbd4_ss_simplemodel.png |
| 15:13.54 | Narada | That is what I am using atm. |
| 15:14.01 | Narada | But I want to change. |
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| 15:16.25 | DeadS0ul | http://www.kexi-project.org/screenshots.html =P |
| 15:16.58 | Narada | heh :] |
| 15:17.01 | DeadS0ul | it might do a fwe things you need but not to the extent as dbdesigner |
| 15:17.36 | Narada | Hmm. It's surprisingly difficult to find something like this that is so useful but also so rare. |
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| 15:18.10 | DeadS0ul | yeah, you'll probably have to program it on your own |
| 15:18.19 | Narada | Thanks though. I'll have a look at kexi. |
| 15:18.29 | DeadS0ul | =( sorry man |
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| 15:21.11 | rork | Hi all |
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| 15:21.30 | DeadS0ul | heya |
| 15:21.46 | kevinv | KDE 3.5.1 is Kool! |
| 15:21.52 | DeadS0ul | \m/ |
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| 15:22.19 | livingtm | DeadS0ul, Hey that worked.. thanks again. |
| 15:22.21 | kevinv | I have a suggestions that I wouldn't mind being added to the next release... |
| 15:22.51 | DeadS0ul | =D |
| 15:23.07 | DeadS0ul | kevinv the next version will be kde4 =DDDD |
| 15:23.16 | kevinv | The clock applet, when I select 'Copy' from it's context menu, is there a way that the fuzzy time could be added? |
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| 15:23.45 | DeadS0ul | ask kde-devel I guess |
| 15:23.48 | kevinv | eg. I could copy the time 'Twenty five past nine' instead of typing it in. |
| 15:24.35 | kevinv | btw, where is the metabar on Debian etch(testing)? |
| 15:26.00 | pinotree | kevinv: kdeaddons |
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| 15:26.28 | DeadS0ul | etch is a cool name |
| 15:26.43 | DeadS0ul | I'll forever use sid as a desktop though |
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| 15:29.42 | kevinv | sid is very unstable tho, but it is your choice. |
| 15:30.12 | kevinv | I was using sarge(stable) until just last night... I really wanted to see how KDE was progressing. |
| 15:30.14 | DeadS0ul | works fine for me |
| 15:30.28 | DeadS0ul | yeah thats' why i use sid =| |
| 15:30.31 | kevinv | I've used KDE 3.4 in both Debian testing and SuSE 9.3 |
| 15:30.32 | DeadS0ul | all the latest stuff |
| 15:30.37 | Shadowcat | kevinv: then you're gonna get burned |
| 15:30.46 | kevinv | SuSE is incredible slow tho :( |
| 15:30.56 | Shadowcat | you need to know what you're doing in debian to use sid |
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| 15:31.07 | DeadS0ul | you mena I'm gonna get burned? |
| 15:31.13 | DeadS0ul | meh I manage fine so far |
| 15:31.17 | Shadowcat | well both of you |
| 15:31.25 | Shadowcat | if you don't know how to properly manage packages |
| 15:31.26 | kevinv | I've been using debiain for two years now, I do a full custom installation(no tasksel) |
| 15:31.28 | DeadS0ul | upgraded the kernel, use kdetv etc etc |
| 15:31.50 | Shadowcat | kevinv: not using tasksel doesn't mean you're an expert |
| 15:31.56 | DeadS0ul | i used tasksel but this installation is kinda old XD |
| 15:32.13 | kevinv | I compiled two kernels in my time, one for a bootsplash patch on kernel 2.6.8 on debian sarge, and another progress patch for kernel 2.4 on debian woody. |
| 15:32.14 | DeadS0ul | i have to use --force-overwrite at times though, =| |
| 15:32.24 | kevinv | true |
| 15:32.24 | Shadowcat | kevinv: then YOU know what you're doing |
| 15:32.28 | DeadS0ul | meh I just install linux-image |
| 15:32.38 | DeadS0ul | \m/ |
| 15:32.38 | Shadowcat | DeadS0ul: ya and you're gonna get burned for that |
| 15:32.48 | Shadowcat | broken kernels pop up in debian sid all the time |
| 15:32.52 | Shadowcat | for example |
| 15:32.52 | DeadS0ul | for linux-image? |
| 15:33.00 | Shadowcat | there's a reason it's called UNSTABLE |
| 15:33.01 | DeadS0ul | or force-overwrite? |
| 15:33.03 | kevinv | I do have my flaws, debian does.. ummm.. well sometimes breaks on me when I attempt to mix stable with unstable(bad idea) |
| 15:33.18 | DeadS0ul | ahh i won't do that ever hehe |
| 15:33.21 | Shadowcat | 2.6.14-2 was broken, so is 2.6.15 on some systems |
| 15:33.26 | kevinv | it's fun tho |
| 15:33.48 | DeadS0ul | yeah but I have 2-3 kernels installed |
| 15:34.03 | DeadS0ul | if 2.6.16 comes out and screwes up my system, i just boot up in 2.6.15 again |
| 15:34.24 | kevinv | I am currently trying KDE 3.5.1 running on a debian sarge base(Xfree86 not Xorg) but etch kernel, and other etch pieces. |
| 15:34.46 | kevinv | This video card on this system is a damn i810, very shitty. |
| 15:34.58 | Shadowcat | xfree86? |
| 15:35.00 | Shadowcat | crazy person |
| 15:35.04 | kevinv | my other system on the other hand has an ATI Rage 128 |
| 15:35.09 | DeadS0ul | hmm I cna't get x.org working on my notebook though =( |
| 15:35.18 | Shadowcat | n00bs :P |
| 15:35.24 | Narada | heh :) |
| 15:35.25 | kevinv | i810 doesn't work to well with X.org |
| 15:35.31 | Shadowcat | does too |
| 15:35.32 | DeadS0ul | that explains a lot |
| 15:35.35 | DeadS0ul | it's a centrino |
| 15:35.41 | Shadowcat | again, does too |
| 15:35.41 | DeadS0ul | 855 |
| 15:35.46 | DeadS0ul | boots up fine with knoppix |
| 15:35.59 | DeadS0ul | but not with x.org ... |
| 15:36.02 | kevinv | I am resorting to the vesa driver right now :( |
| 15:36.22 | kevinv | the offical XF86 i810 driver is quite bad and has various problems. |
| 15:36.25 | Shadowcat | I should beat you both with a screenshot of KDE 3.5.1 running |
| 15:36.27 | DeadS0ul | haha I treid vesa, not only does it not boot up but console ends up going all nuts |
| 15:36.44 | Shadowcat | USING the i810 driver in XOrg 6.9 |
| 15:36.46 | DeadS0ul | I have 3.5.1 running =P |
| 15:36.50 | DeadS0ul | ah oki |
| 15:36.58 | DeadS0ul | meh I doubt it's my driver choice |
| 15:37.02 | kevinv | on an i810, Shadowcat? Take the screenshot with Kinfocenter open to show the video settings for us too |
| 15:37.03 | DeadS0ul | I think i screwed up the packages on it |
| 15:37.05 | DeadS0ul | hehe |
| 15:37.40 | DeadS0ul | I'm not sure what I have to do to get it working |
| 15:37.45 | kevinv | Which X.org is with etch now? X.org 6.8 was the last I heard |
| 15:38.38 | HuntsMan | 6.9 |
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| 15:39.24 | kevinv | Which processor do you think is better, pentium or AMD? I have both and both run at 400Mhz. The celerons seem to run X better then my AMD K6. |
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| 15:39.48 | kevinv | plus what happened to the k6 kernel? 2.4 had a k6-based kernel. |
| 15:40.02 | sobukus | celeron may be better that k6-2 |
| 15:40.19 | sobukus | k6-3 not sure |
| 15:40.19 | Sh4dowcat | kevinv: there you go |
| 15:40.55 | Sh4dowcat | accept the send |
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| 15:41.06 | kevinv | I am behind a NAT firewall(my debian router) :( |
| 15:41.18 | Sh4dowcat | pfft |
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| 15:41.27 | DeadS0ul | port forwarding man |
| 15:41.36 | kevinv | I didn't add the proper settings for file recieving. Which port? |
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| 15:41.54 | DeadS0ul | <-- linksys router =O |
| 15:42.09 | Munter | Is this an appropriate channel to ask about Konqueror? |
| 15:42.14 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:42.29 | Sh4dowcat | DeadS0ul: see, KDE 3.5 running |
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| 15:43.54 | DeadS0ul | =O |
| 15:44.00 | DeadS0ul | Qt: 3.3.5 |
| 15:44.00 | DeadS0ul | KDE: 3.5.1 |
| 15:44.00 | DeadS0ul | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 15:44.33 | Sh4dowcat | Qt: 3.3.5 |
| 15:44.33 | Sh4dowcat | KDE: 3.5.1 |
| 15:44.33 | Sh4dowcat | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 15:44.39 | Sh4dowcat | Sysinfo for 'lockheed': Linux 2.6.15.3-1-pm-sws2 running KDE 3.5.1, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz at 598 MHz (1196 bogomips), HD: 31/53GB, RAM: 471/483MB, 99 proc's, 5.52h up |
| 15:44.46 | TIBS01 | (File Servers Online) Triggers: !mp3 & !mp32 & !mp3ss & !garage. Snagged: 41.47Gb in 5380 files. Record CPS: 38Kb/s by dROps-. Online: 0/99. Sends: 0/6. Queues: 0/99. Accessed: 2505 times. Note: Just type the Trigger! soz dcc wasnt working router froze working!. |
| 15:44.51 | Sh4dowcat | wtf |
| 15:44.53 | Sh4dowcat | file server |
| 15:44.56 | DeadS0ul | haha |
| 15:45.04 | Sh4dowcat | but either way |
| 15:45.04 | DeadS0ul | !mp3 |
| 15:45.07 | DeadS0ul | Sysinfo for 'pc01': Linux 2.6.15-1-686-smp running KDE 3.5.1, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz at 3000 MHz (5998 bogomips), HD: 23/127GB, RAM: 1452/1519MB, 119 proc's, 2.14h up |
| 15:45.08 | Sh4dowcat | you get the point |
| 15:45.13 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:45.22 | Sh4dowcat | it's entirely possible to run XOrg with the i810 driver :P |
| 15:45.27 | DeadS0ul | wonder why I can't get x.org working on my note >| |
| 15:45.33 | TIBS01 | ffs |
| 15:45.38 | Shadowcat | because you suck :P |
| 15:45.43 | TIBS01 | (%) The File Server has been shut down. |
| 15:45.50 | DeadS0ul | haha |
| 15:46.01 | DeadS0ul | don't be a cunt = |
| 15:46.02 | DeadS0ul | =P |
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| 15:46.45 | Shadowcat | that system is also running reiser4 |
| 15:46.48 | Shadowcat | aka a custom kernel |
| 15:46.56 | DeadS0ul | i've done that |
| 15:47.02 | TIBS01 | http://www.gibbs-hosting.co.uk/phpsysinfo |
| 15:47.03 | DeadS0ul | but i'm not boethered to compile my own kernel agian |
| 15:47.05 | TIBS01 | is it slow loading ? |
| 15:47.28 | DeadS0ul | is reiser4 worth it |
| 15:47.32 | DeadS0ul | yeah it's a bit slow |
| 15:47.36 | TIBS01 | mmmmmm |
| 15:47.39 | TIBS01 | wonder why |
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| 15:49.09 | DeadS0ul | resolving your hostname is taking it's sweet time |
| 15:49.22 | DeadS0ul | I ran traceroute |
| 15:49.33 | TIBS01 | mmmmmm |
| 15:49.42 | TIBS01 | prob my domain provider |
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| 15:50.32 | TIBS01 | Status Page |
| 15:50.32 | TIBS01 | Welcome to the 123-reg system status page. |
| 15:50.32 | TIBS01 | Any planned outages are listed here along with any current system problems. Before e-mailing support please check the information below. |
| 15:50.32 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.32 | TIBS01 | There are currently no status entries. |
| 15:50.34 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.38 | TIBS01 | mmmmmm |
| 15:50.40 | TIBS01 | nowt wrong there |
| 15:50.46 | rlj | i'm having a slight problem with kdesktop (kde 3.5.1).. turns out the icons->align to grid no longer works (for no apparent reason) |
| 15:50.58 | rlj | turning it on or off has no effect whatsoever |
| 15:51.03 | rlj | is this a known problem? |
| 15:51.10 | TIBS01 | put a hammer through the screen rlj ? |
| 15:51.24 | DeadS0ul | rlj: are you icons locked? |
| 15:51.32 | rlj | TIBS01, i evaluated that possiblility and decided not to.. |
| 15:51.40 | TIBS01 | lol |
| 15:52.01 | rlj | locked as in "lock in place" - no they aren't |
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| 15:53.28 | DeadS0ul | rlj: not sure then =| |
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| 15:53.33 | rlj | i turn off align to grid, move them a little, turn it back on and nothing happens at all. and moving icons with it turned on allows them to be placed anywhere on a pixel basis.. |
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| 15:55.59 | DeadS0ul | did you upgrade recently? |
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| 15:57.41 | rlj | like a month ago i think |
| 15:57.45 | rlj | running gentoo |
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| 15:58.12 | rlj | don't remember whether the issue was introduced with 3.5.1 or if it came sometime after the upgrade |
| 15:58.29 | DeadS0ul | no idea then, you might have to submit a bug report |
| 15:58.38 | rlj | i think i'll try and move my kdesktop configuration (it's in .kde/share/apps like everything else, right?) and see what happens |
| 15:58.58 | DeadS0ul | go for it |
| 15:59.03 | DeadS0ul | ..i gotta hit the sack, later guys |
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| 15:59.57 | rork | cu |
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| 16:02.38 | rlj | moved dir, started a new session and the desktop icons were of course lined up on a row |
| 16:02.46 | rlj | grid seemed nonfunctional there too |
| 16:02.57 | rlj | i think i'll downgrade to kdesktop 3.5 before filing a bug |
| 16:03.09 | rlj | otherwise it has to be specific to some configuration somewhere |
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| 16:12.49 | freevir | hello |
| 16:13.17 | freevir | I want to use the caps lock key as a shortcut? How to do since there is no reaction if I only hit caps lock... |
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| 16:20.38 | sredna | KWORD SUCKS |
| 16:21.00 | sredna | Using tabulators, kword doesn't respect those, it behaves 2034987239842 weird |
| 16:21.01 | SimAtWork | freevir: i don't think using caps lock as a shortcut is a very good idea. |
| 16:21.07 | SimAtWork | freevir: i don't think it'll work either. |
| 16:21.15 | sredna | When I change style, my tabulators was REMOVED |
| 16:21.30 | SimAtWork | i'm not sure what a tabulator is |
| 16:21.56 | sredna | It uses WRONG color as default- the window color on the text background |
| 16:22.11 | freevir | SimAtWork: I do not use caps lock - so y not using it for some useful stuff? currently I'm looking for instruction for xmodmap... |
| 16:22.15 | sredna | Another reason to cave in and install windows I guess |
| 16:22.31 | Shadowcat | don't know about KWord |
| 16:22.38 | Shadowcat | but Openoffice.org Writer works fine for me |
| 16:23.00 | sredna | Well, stay away from it Shadowcat , for something like 450896406 years, maybe it will work then |
| 16:23.04 | sredna | And I HATE OOo |
| 16:23.11 | sredna | OOo writer is a nightmare |
| 16:24.08 | sredna | I'm depressed, because when I try to use all the wonderfull free software, it falls short |
| 16:24.21 | Narada | Yeah I know what you mean. |
| 16:24.34 | Narada | I feel the same sometimes. |
| 16:24.48 | Narada | But hey I bear with it and brave on. |
| 16:24.50 | sredna | Damn it, I'm trying to create a text file with about 30 words and some underlined space for filling in text, and it's not possible, or at least not easy |
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| 16:25.06 | sredna | Aji-Dahaka: So why would I be happy? |
| 16:25.41 | Narada | Yeah what reason could there possibly be to be happy. |
| 16:26.02 | Aji-Dahaka | well, it's more about where you place your anger. Your admin set your computer up _wrong_ and you should tell that person to fix it. |
| 16:26.05 | sredna | Well, no reason that steems from KDE at least |
| 16:26.22 | sredna | Aji-Dahaka: My admin is ME |
| 16:26.28 | Narada | Well I find no reason in life in general. |
| 16:26.31 | Aji-Dahaka | sredna: guess suicide is the only answer |
| 16:26.39 | Narada | Lol. |
| 16:26.46 | sredna | I would like to use KDE apps, but it's counterproductive |
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| 16:27.02 | sredna | KDE applications are slow, and rarely does the job it appears |
| 16:27.08 | Narada | Aji-Dahaka: You never know. Some people take instructions literally. |
| 16:27.30 | Aji-Dahaka | Narada: save support time ... |
| 16:27.30 | sredna | As an example, acroread can handle PDF files and starts in about 1/3 of the time kpdf does |
| 16:27.42 | Narada | Lol. |
| 16:28.04 | sredna | And kword can't seem to handle TABs and are miscoded in some areas, like the way it selects default colors |
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| 16:28.16 | sredna | Never use if for tables btw |
| 16:28.42 | Fri13 | sredna: Why KPDF opens on my PC in 2s and acroread on 17 ? :-P |
| 16:29.45 | sredna | Fri13: No idea, its the oppersite here |
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| 16:30.21 | litb | KDE apps are slow... |
| 16:30.34 | sredna | And I really can't use kpdf with the pdf files I produce with scribus, as it's not good enough anyway |
| 16:30.35 | litb | hope that the new fontconfig does a little boost |
| 16:30.53 | sredna | litb: I'd actually prefer if they would work |
| 16:31.08 | litb | they work |
| 16:31.14 | sredna | Like if I would't have to fight kword for an hour for my silly 30 words |
| 16:31.15 | litb | apart fro mcrashes of konqueror |
| 16:31.17 | sredna | No |
| 16:31.33 | litb | its khtml is somewhat broken |
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| 16:31.42 | sredna | You dopnt' really use them if you say they work |
| 16:31.44 | pvh | Is there any way to turn off the Ctrl-<> shortcuts new to Konqueror? |
| 16:31.55 | litb | i spoke of KDE core apps |
| 16:32.03 | sredna | Or you use a few enough to have gotten into the habit of not pushing them |
| 16:32.08 | litb | koffice is not good atm, yes |
| 16:32.37 | sredna | Well, my desktop looses the list of recent apps 3 out of 4 days |
| 16:32.57 | sredna | But yes, kdesktop and kicker kinda works |
| 16:33.15 | litb | kicker in kombination with kdesktop sucks sometimes |
| 16:33.33 | sredna | Kmail is weird, it appears it looses my pr folder identity settings randomly |
| 16:33.39 | sredna | As another example |
| 16:33.40 | litb | particulary with icon arrangement |
| 16:34.05 | sredna | I'd hate to stop using KDE, but lately I'm close to quite often |
| 16:34.18 | sredna | Because it's counter productive |
| 16:34.19 | litb | kadressbooks deleted all my contacts some weeks ago |
| 16:34.23 | litb | that was a pain |
| 16:34.27 | sredna | There you go... |
| 16:34.37 | sredna | Your adresses are likely backed up though |
| 16:34.43 | sredna | In the directory |
| 16:34.53 | litb | yeah, there were 5 to 9 files |
| 16:35.01 | sredna | But that is also a BAD habit of that app |
| 16:35.04 | litb | all of each contained some contacts |
| 16:35.12 | Narada_ | is there a keyboard shortcut to go to next and previous virtual desktop? |
| 16:35.17 | Narada_ | that would be really useful for me |
| 16:35.24 | litb | they were suffixed with .1 .2 .3 ... |
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| 16:35.39 | sredna | Narada: I think so, or you can set it up |
| 16:35.57 | Narada | Where do I set that up? |
| 16:36.01 | sredna | CTRL TAB is for desktops like ALT TAB for windows on my system |
| 16:36.21 | Narada | sredna: Ah perfect thanks. |
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| 16:36.30 | sredna | In the shortcuts sction of the control center |
| 16:36.33 | StevenR | Narada_: check your config in kcontrol -->region + accessiblity |
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| 16:36.51 | Narada | Okay. |
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| 16:38.54 | Narada | StevenR: Perfect. All customised now just like Enlightenment. Ctrl-Shift-up/down :) |
| 16:39.12 | Narada | Hmm but arts just crashed and gave me noise instead of my mp3 and now CPU load is really high :( |
| 16:39.22 | StevenR | killall -9 artsd |
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| 16:40.28 | litb | i suggest to don |
| 16:40.32 | litb | 't use arts |
| 16:41.03 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 16:41.05 | litb | alsa does a great job |
| 16:41.26 | Narada_ | Well I can't tell whether it was amarok or arts that crashed. |
| 16:41.29 | GraveDigger | sure, but only if you have a hardware mixer in the soundcard |
| 16:41.34 | GraveDigger | otherwise you need dmix |
| 16:41.36 | litb | and with dmix, there is no need for any soundserver :D |
| 16:41.44 | GraveDigger | and hey - dmix is just as crap as arts ... |
| 16:41.57 | litb | dmix is very fast for me |
| 16:42.22 | litb | but there is a stupid warning on the console if i use it |
| 16:42.27 | GraveDigger | 01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) |
| 16:42.29 | GraveDigger | ^^ :D |
| 16:42.33 | GraveDigger | i dont need dmix :D |
| 16:42.37 | GraveDigger | (at all) |
| 16:42.43 | litb | ah |
| 16:43.30 | vin` | same here, look ma no dmix! |
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| 16:46.05 | GraveDigger | konqi says: connection timed out |
| 16:46.27 | GraveDigger | but connecting to smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ works great |
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| 16:53.07 | snapy | hi there, I don't succeed in defining a konqueror association for all files |
| 16:53.27 | snapy | I have kde 3.4 that comes with Kubuntu (not upgraded to kde 3.5 yet) |
| 16:53.38 | snapy | any help will be appreciated |
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| 17:14.00 | sredna | GOD DAMN IT |
| 17:14.05 | sredna | Kword can't print either |
| 17:14.20 | sredna | With any font that it will let me use in a document |
| 17:14.27 | sredna | How funny is that? |
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| 17:16.20 | sredna | Printing to the printer there is NO respons, except the roaring silence. Printing to a pdf file generates an error message |
| 17:16.41 | sredna | grepper: I find it embarrassing |
| 17:17.09 | grepper | mine is printing raw postscript atm |
| 17:17.24 | grepper | at least you save paper |
| 17:17.36 | sredna | grepper: I can print if I use another font |
| 17:17.41 | grepper | ah |
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| 17:18.03 | grepper | can you map the font ? |
| 17:18.10 | sredna | Map? |
| 17:18.16 | grepper | to another |
| 17:18.27 | sredna | Another font does not look like I wanted |
| 17:18.35 | sredna | I tried using a decorative font |
| 17:18.42 | grepper | hm, shouldn't it embed the font in the postscript if you selected that option ? |
| 17:18.45 | sredna | Those are mostly meant for printing |
| 17:18.52 | sredna | But obviously not with kword |
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| 17:20.57 | sredna | Embed all fonts is enabled in the pdf driver |
| 17:21.16 | _aplez | any german channels ?? |
| 17:21.26 | _aplez | plz help |
| 17:21.45 | sredna | _aplez: #kde.de or #kde-de |
| 17:21.50 | sredna | I can't remember |
| 17:22.00 | sredna | #kde.de it is |
| 17:22.20 | sredna | grepper: Maybe my font is REALLY bad |
| 17:22.31 | Shadowcat | sredna: I have no problems printing with any kde app |
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| 17:22.42 | Shadowcat | then again, I have no problem fixing what needs to be fixed so that I can print |
| 17:22.48 | sredna | Shadowcat: You are not using them hard enough |
| 17:22.57 | _aplez | thx@sredna |
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| 17:23.22 | Shadowcat | sredna: I ran the cvs version of OpenOffice 2.0 for six months before it was released |
| 17:23.27 | sredna | Shadowcat: Adn I usually at some point gets to an acceptable result, it' just often a long path of fixing |
| 17:23.49 | sredna | I badly dislike OOo |
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| 17:23.57 | Shadowcat | which comes to the question |
| 17:24.00 | Shadowcat | what are you running? |
| 17:24.01 | sredna | I only open it if absolutely nessecary |
| 17:24.04 | Shadowcat | 1.5 beta? |
| 17:24.13 | sredna | 1.5 branch |
| 17:24.17 | grepper | sredna: dunno where you would look for debugging that |
| 17:24.23 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.46 | sredna | Because some fixes for other bad problems with kword is in that branch |
| 17:24.49 | Shadowcat | sredna: then you shouldn't be complaining |
| 17:24.56 | sredna | Shadowcat: Nonsense |
| 17:24.59 | Shadowcat | 1.5 is beta, it's suppposed to *not work* |
| 17:25.06 | Shadowcat | sredna: you're running a development release |
| 17:25.13 | Shadowcat | either deal with the bugs, or don't ru nit |
| 17:25.13 | sredna | The old version was WORSE |
| 17:25.17 | Shadowcat | run* |
| 17:25.22 | _aplez | good bye |
| 17:25.23 | Shadowcat | sredna: then use OpenOffice |
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| 17:25.29 | sredna | No, I wont |
| 17:25.41 | Shadowcat | sredna: or fix it yourself, you got a copy of the source (or can get hold of it= |
| 17:25.42 | sredna | I'll just yell |
| 17:25.43 | Shadowcat | ) |
| 17:25.55 | sredna | I file bug reports for koffice |
| 17:26.03 | sredna | They fix them |
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| 17:26.11 | sredna | But there is a looooooong way to go yet |
| 17:26.14 | Shadowcat | sredna: good, that's at least something constructive |
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| 17:26.32 | Shadowcat | whining about it won't make us codehackers fix it any faster |
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| 17:26.38 | Shadowcat | we're already sleep deprived as it is |
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| 17:27.11 | grepper | sredna was a kde developer last time I checked :) |
| 17:27.12 | sredna | Shadowcat: I'm not the worlds best coder or anything near that, but ido write KDE code |
| 17:27.22 | sredna | But not in koffice |
| 17:27.33 | Shadowcat | then you should know whining doesn't help |
| 17:27.52 | sredna | Bah |
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| 17:46.07 | snapy | hello (again), I have fixed my problem of creating a konqueror file association for allfiles |
| 17:46.41 | snapy | just for info, it started working after I quitred the session and relogged again in KDE |
| 17:47.12 | snapy | Just closing and restarting konqueror was not enough :( |
| 17:47.46 | snapy | I don't know if it is normal to restart a session when we do a global file association (I think that with the other ones I never had a problem) |
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| 18:02.08 | tchino | hello |
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| 18:03.14 | aynjell | Howdy. |
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| 18:14.48 | The_ManU | hi, one qusteion ehere can i set off the jumping symbol beside the arrow? |
| 18:14.50 | The_ManU | thx |
| 18:14.59 | The_ManU | *question where |
| 18:15.19 | pinotree | ah |
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| 18:16.34 | pinotree | The_ManU: kcontrol -> look&themes -> launching feedback or something like that |
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| 18:19.19 | The_ManU | pinotree: thx |
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| 18:21.34 | DarKSideS | can anyone help me |
| 18:21.42 | aynjell | Depends on your problem. |
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| 18:22.03 | DarKSideS | I cant seem to be able to correctly install Java, and limewire |
| 18:22.04 | DarKSideS | LOL |
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| 18:23.15 | pinotree | DarKSideS: weel, this is not the proper channel... |
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| 18:25.09 | vishwas | can someone tell me how to turn off auto unshade onJDE 3.4.0-6 Red Hat? |
| 18:25.42 | oGALAXYo | whats JDE ? |
| 18:25.50 | vishwas | Sorry KDE. |
| 18:26.49 | vishwas | I don't want it to automatically unshade a shaded window. |
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| 18:28.37 | litb | vishwas: it is the "automatischer fensterheber", in german words |
| 18:28.57 | DarKSideS | ok... how bout this, |
| 18:29.18 | DarKSideS | I want to Use My External soundcard instead od the OnBoard one |
| 18:29.19 | DarKSideS | how |
| 18:29.29 | litb | vishwas: it's the second option under the side "Advanced" |
| 18:29.36 | DarKSideS | cause right now, im hearing my laptop speakers, not the external ones |
| 18:29.37 | litb | *site |
| 18:31.18 | vishwas | litb: Advanced tab where? in control center? |
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| 18:31.35 | litb | right click the title bar ... |
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| 18:32.26 | Stordalsbon | do u have YaSt |
| 18:32.28 | Stordalsbon | ? |
| 18:32.34 | Stordalsbon | if u do |
| 18:32.46 | Stordalsbon | it's alot easier |
| 18:33.04 | Stordalsbon | just go to hardware and sound |
| 18:33.40 | DarKSideS | yast? |
| 18:33.46 | DarKSideS | Umm i dont think so |
| 18:33.50 | DarKSideS | how can i obtain it? |
| 18:33.52 | litb | DarKSideS: i think you should do something with .asound |
| 18:33.55 | litb | in ~ |
| 18:34.05 | Stordalsbon | ye the configuration tool in mandriva and suse |
| 18:34.29 | litb | i hate the configutationtool which runs tight after yast2 |
| 18:34.29 | DarKSideS | so type Yast in the terminal. |
| 18:34.33 | DarKSideS | or...what? |
| 18:34.39 | litb | is that yast specific or suse? |
| 18:34.45 | litb | i mean SuSEconfig |
| 18:35.04 | litb | *(right after yast) |
| 18:35.05 | vishwas | litb: I don't think it has what I'm looking for. |
| 18:35.12 | DarKSideS | .? |
| 18:35.14 | litb | it has |
| 18:35.36 | Stordalsbon | wich system are u running? |
| 18:35.43 | DarKSideS | mandriva |
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| 18:36.16 | Stordalsbon | just open YaST or YaSt2 from the terminal or kde menu |
| 18:36.50 | vishwas | I dont see an option to turn off auto unshade. I don't remember setting this before -- and I don't know how it turned on automatically. |
| 18:37.31 | Stordalsbon | type YaST2 in the terminal |
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| 18:38.26 | Stordalsbon | or open the configuration central and click YaST2 modules |
| 18:38.44 | Stordalsbon | hardware and sound |
| 18:38.55 | DarKSideS | [darkside@user-0cdfe69 ~]$ YaST2 |
| 18:38.55 | DarKSideS | bash: YaST2: command not found |
| 18:38.58 | litb | DarKSideS: do: sed s/ShadeHover=on/ShadeHover=off/ ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc > ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
| 18:39.26 | DarKSideS | i think thats meant for vishwas? |
| 18:39.51 | litb | vishwas: do: sed s/ShadeHover=on/ShadeHover=off/ ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc > ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
| 18:39.51 | Stordalsbon | ok |
| 18:39.54 | litb | yes :) |
| 18:40.03 | Stordalsbon | Type YaSt |
| 18:40.09 | litb | do you meant that? |
| 18:40.31 | Stordalsbon | Darkside: Type YaSt |
| 18:40.41 | vishwas | litb: Ok.. I think I might have to restart kde. no? |
| 18:41.04 | Stordalsbon | or go through the control central |
| 18:41.04 | litb | mom |
| 18:41.34 | vishwas | litb: thanks for the help. |
| 18:41.52 | litb | perhaps that could have helped him: dcop kwin MainApplication-Interface reparseConfiguration |
| 18:45.38 | DarKSideS | ok im in MCC |
| 18:45.42 | DarKSideS | now what? |
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| 18:46.22 | Stordalsbon | sound |
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| 18:47.50 | Stordalsbon | either hardware and sound or sound system |
| 18:50.09 | DarKSideS | well Im in HardWare Config. |
| 18:50.19 | Stordalsbon | choose sound |
| 18:50.24 | DarKSideS | im there. |
| 18:50.27 | Stordalsbon | or sound system |
| 18:51.01 | DarKSideS | i dont see sound system |
| 18:51.02 | Stordalsbon | then choose the hardware u want to use |
| 18:51.09 | DarKSideS | just sound... and USB sound Devices |
| 18:51.13 | Stordalsbon | sound or sound system |
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| 18:52.28 | Skrot | About KDE and memory footprint. I know the memoryusage reported by such tools as top and ps are often incorrect, so I tend to use "free" instead. Right now I've got ~300MB used -/+ buffers/cache and ~960MB used "total", is why would Xorg+KDE (kontact, konqueror, kopete, konversation, amarok) use that much? |
| 18:52.31 | DarKSideS | nothing. |
| 18:52.48 | Stordalsbon | if u want to use the external soundcard i sugest u choose usb sound drive |
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| 18:53.36 | Stordalsbon | just choose the usb sound device and see what happens |
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| 18:53.55 | Pinaraf | Skrot: you think 300MB is too big for all the applications needed to work ? You're only lacking an Office suite here ! |
| 18:54.19 | Stordalsbon | DarkSide: |
| 18:54.26 | Skrot | My bad, 300 is very good, 960 is not, and linux starts caching once I reach 1000 |
| 18:54.29 | Stordalsbon | IRC |
| 18:54.30 | Stordalsbon | IRC står för Internet Relay Chat, och är helt enkelt en chatt. Där finns flera av de aktiva i Ubuntu Sverige. |
| 18:54.30 | Pinaraf | you've got chat, mail, calendar, music, web, local files browsing |
| 18:54.30 | Stordalsbon | Programmet som följer med Kubuntu för IRC heter Konversation. Starta det genom att klicka på K-menyn -> Internet -> IRC-chatt (Konversation). Konversation bör nu startas. Serverlistan startas automatiskt. Välj freenode -> Redigera. Klicka på Lägg till... under Gå med automatiskt i kanaler. Skriv in #ubuntu.se, inget lösenord. Klicka på OK. Bocka i rutan Anslut vid programstart Klicka sedan på OK i serverdialogen och dubbel |
| 18:54.30 | Stordalsbon | Du kommer nu att anslutas till servern, och den officiella, internationella, Kubuntu-kanalen (#kubuntu) samt #ubuntu.se kommer att öppnas. Om du vill stänga #kubuntu (givetvis helt valfritt) kan du högerklicka på fliken och välja stäng flik. |
| 18:54.31 | Skrot | err, swapping not caching |
| 18:54.33 | Stordalsbon | Jabber |
| 18:54.55 | Pinaraf | the total is handled by linux |
| 18:55.00 | DarKSideS | Dont see that there |
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| 18:55.08 | DarKSideS | Would you like me to post a screenshot? |
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| 18:55.14 | Stordalsbon | DarkSide: just choose the usb sound device |
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| 18:55.21 | Stordalsbon | ye do that |
| 18:55.25 | DarKSideS | \ok |
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| 18:55.31 | Stordalsbon | and tell me where |
| 18:55.44 | Skrot | Pinaraf: As far as I know, the rest of those 960MB (960-300) is cached or buffered, right? |
| 18:56.00 | Pinaraf | what do you think is the best behaviour ? Move to swap some extremely rarely used applications in order to save 10 MB for cache, or reduce cache size (=> slow down + bigger IO usage) in order to save 10MB from swap (which will remain unused) ? |
| 18:56.39 | Pinaraf | cached or buffered means : if you have a file cached, if you want to read it back, it'll be done without any hard drive operation |
| 18:57.05 | Skrot | I see =) |
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| 18:57.22 | Wizz_Kidd | http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/956/screen1ms.jpg hows this looking |
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| 18:58.47 | Skrot | Pinaraf: When is cached/buffered data deleted (from ram)? |
| 18:59.04 | Stordalsbon | DarkSide: Can you post it soon I'l have to go soon |
| 19:01.34 | DarKSideS | Stordalsbon: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/DarkSidez007/HardWare_List.jpg |
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| 19:02.52 | Stordalsbon | if u want to use the external soundcard u have to choose it and set it as primary |
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| 19:03.29 | DarKSideS | how do i set it as primary? |
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| 19:04.41 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: I think u shuld start whit selecting it and click "configure module" or "run config tool" |
| 19:04.56 | ktos | hi i am finding applet or program like it: i see one line of terminal on screen and i can put there any command, it can be on taskbar or other place on screen but i should be 1 max 2 lines of terminal. do you know any porgram or kdeed applet like it? |
| 19:05.08 | DarKSideS | ok... |
| 19:05.35 | EvilGuru | is there an incremental-search plugin for konquror |
| 19:05.40 | EvilGuru | like one has in firefox |
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| 19:06.33 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: tell me what u see |
| 19:07.35 | DarKSideS | Umm only choice i have is Configure Module |
| 19:07.46 | Stordalsbon | Ok |
| 19:08.08 | Stordalsbon | Choose it then |
| 19:08.17 | DarKSideS | so I click on that... and i see Index.. ID... Enable..vid...Pid...nrpacks...async_unlink |
| 19:08.22 | Stordalsbon | if u want to configure the sound device |
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| 19:08.38 | Stordalsbon | Click enable |
| 19:08.49 | ktos | do you know how i can hide titlebar? |
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| 19:09.08 | DarKSideS | all those choices i gave you are Next to Text Boxes |
| 19:09.15 | feindbild | hin =) |
| 19:09.21 | feindbild | s/hin/hi/ |
| 19:10.01 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: do u mean that u cant choose to enable tho sound device |
| 19:10.14 | DarKSideS | no.... |
| 19:10.24 | Stordalsbon | then what are u doing then |
| 19:10.29 | DarKSideS | it requieres me typing something into the text box next to it |
| 19:10.38 | Stordalsbon | ok |
| 19:11.14 | Stordalsbon | try typing enable |
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| 19:11.50 | DarKSideS | http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/DarkSidez007/Config_Sound.jpg |
| 19:11.52 | DarKSideS | ok |
| 19:12.00 | Stordalsbon | does anything happen? |
| 19:12.36 | DarKSideS | ummm let me see |
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| 19:12.46 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 19:12.50 | gigabytes | a small question |
| 19:13.13 | gigabytes | where can I set some global configuration values to set by default to any new user created later on the system? |
| 19:13.31 | gigabytes | I mean the proxy configuration, the GUI styles, ecc... |
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| 19:14.11 | DarKSideS | it froze my amarok |
| 19:14.17 | Stordalsbon | ok |
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| 19:14.34 | Stordalsbon | then configure the onboard device |
| 19:14.45 | Stordalsbon | and type the oposite to enable |
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| 19:15.11 | jhutchins | gigabytes: See if this helps: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/ |
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| 19:16.34 | gigabytes | jhutchins: thanks |
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| 19:17.15 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: does anything happen |
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| 19:17.23 | gigabytes | jhutchins: I need something specific to kde configuration! |
| 19:17.46 | Stordalsbon | can u change the parameters for the onboard sound device |
| 19:17.49 | Stordalsbon | ????????+ |
| 19:17.57 | DarKSideS | i wouldn't know where to start |
| 19:18.16 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: wich country are u from? |
| 19:18.24 | DarKSideS | US |
| 19:18.38 | Stordalsbon | ok |
| 19:18.42 | Stordalsbon | just asking |
| 19:19.04 | Stordalsbon | post a screenshot from that sounddevice also |
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| 19:19.57 | DarKSideS | Which? |
| 19:20.51 | Stordalsbon | post a screenshot from the onboard sound device as u did whit the usb |
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| 19:21.12 | DarKSideS | http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/DarkSidez007/Config_Sound2.jpg |
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| 19:22.26 | gigabytes | anybody knows where to set default global configuration values? |
| 19:22.34 | DarKSideS | Ummm |
| 19:22.57 | pinotree | gigabytes: /etc/skel, as usual on linux |
| 19:23.30 | gigabytes | pinotree: I mean kde configuration |
| 19:23.36 | gigabytes | i don't know which files to touch |
| 19:23.48 | gigabytes | there are hundreds of files in .kde |
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| 19:24.03 | pinotree | depends on what you're looking for |
| 19:24.38 | DarKSideS | Stordalsbon: you saw it? |
| 19:24.43 | Stordalsbon | ye |
| 19:24.53 | gigabytes | pinotree: I'm looking for proxy configuration and default gui style |
| 19:25.01 | gigabytes | and kwin decoration |
| 19:25.30 | pinotree | grep -i the style name in ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 19:25.34 | gigabytes | I don't want that a new user have to choose anything on the first configuration wizard |
| 19:26.03 | gigabytes | and i want to set a default value for each thing that the configuration wizard ask |
| 19:26.09 | pinotree | there's a key too to set kperonalizer as already run |
| 19:26.27 | gigabytes | ok |
| 19:26.39 | gigabytes | is there a documentation of those things? |
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| 19:27.14 | Stordalsbon | u are sure u don't have yast |
| 19:27.14 | pinotree | try digging into the wiki |
| 19:27.19 | pinotree | http://wiki.kde.org |
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| 19:29.09 | minciNashu | HELP: how can i see the avatars using kopete ? |
| 19:29.31 | DarKSideS | i believe i dont |
| 19:29.36 | Stordalsbon | ok |
| 19:29.36 | DarKSideS | but ill install it of anything |
| 19:29.38 | DarKSideS | How can I? |
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| 19:31.38 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: hover your mouse above the contact in the list? |
| 19:32.13 | minciNashu | nope. |
| 19:32.21 | minciNashu | isnt there soome plugin ? |
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| 19:32.46 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: try to find aptget or something like it |
| 19:33.22 | Stordalsbon | ther have to be a way to install new packages in Mandriva also |
| 19:33.52 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: try settings -> configure -> appearance -> contact list -> [x] Use contact photos when available |
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| 19:35.06 | minciNashu | there's no such setting |
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| 19:35.30 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: what version of kopete do you have? |
| 19:35.43 | minciNashu | however there an option:detailed with constact photos |
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| 19:35.55 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: do u have msn or yahoo? |
| 19:36.10 | minciNashu | kopete 0.10.4 |
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| 19:36.29 | GraveDigger | any gentoo users here? |
| 19:36.31 | DarKSideS | AIM |
| 19:36.34 | minciNashu | i've already chose detailed with contact photo |
| 19:36.36 | DarKSideS | gAim |
| 19:37.05 | Stordalsbon | ye send me u'r adress |
| 19:37.06 | GraveDigger | could one please tell me the setup of gentoo's bash prompt? |
| 19:37.16 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: well, it works fine here. i have 0.11.1 |
| 19:37.27 | minciNashu | yahoo ? |
| 19:37.28 | DarKSideS | DarkS1dez |
| 19:38.03 | DarKSideS | xd4r <-- use that one |
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| 19:38.04 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: ah, well, don't know about yahoo |
| 19:38.07 | _rork | cya all |
| 19:38.10 | minciNashu | what network are you using ? |
| 19:38.37 | Stordalsbon | DarkSideS: I have to go now |
| 19:38.49 | DarKSideS | ok |
| 19:38.50 | arrinmurr | minciNashu: msn |
| 19:38.52 | DarKSideS | thk you |
| 19:39.12 | Stordalsbon | sorry that I couldn't help anymor |
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| 19:39.37 | Stordalsbon | u culd try out any linux forum or mandriva forum |
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| 19:40.23 | ktos | i would like aks you does exist method for hide progrram from taskbar with user way |
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| 19:40.38 | gigabytes | I saw that kcontrol put proxy information in .kde/share/config/kioslaverc |
| 19:40.52 | gigabytes | can I put it into /usr/share/apps/kioslave ? |
| 19:41.00 | gigabytes | to make the settings global? |
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| 19:43.12 | ktos | please tell me if you know |
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| 19:52.49 | ktos | ok i can minimize to tray, it can be too |
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| 20:10.06 | xbeanx | My messenger pic won't show up to others when I'm using kopete. Is this a known bug? |
| 20:15.42 | JohnMS | xbeanx: what version are you using? |
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| 20:27.10 | DexterF | wengo phone any good? |
| 20:27.27 | pinotree | DexterF: ? |
| 20:27.42 | DexterF | oh, umm, lil off topic. openwengo.com |
| 20:28.04 | DexterF | sip client in qt |
| 20:28.06 | DexterF | GPL |
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| 20:37.16 | mandhyl | this is a color test |
| 20:37.35 | mandhyl | in monochrome |
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| 20:38.18 | mandhyl | hello ! |
| 20:38.30 | mandhyl | thancks |
| 20:38.34 | mandhyl | thanks |
| 20:38.40 | kirun | so, your cunning plan is to turn my white text on a black background into white text on a black background? |
| 20:38.49 | mandhyl | ok, many thanks |
| 20:38.59 | kirun | also, use #test if you need to play |
| 20:39.09 | mandhyl | i wan't see an user on the chan |
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| 20:39.27 | mandhyl | ok, i will go to #test the next time |
| 20:39.41 | mandhyl | scuse me, but, thanks anymore |
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| 20:40.21 | kirun | You may also find http://www.irchelp.org useful |
| 20:40.43 | mandhyl | oki (its that be the default chan of super softawres...) |
| 20:41.57 | mandhyl | ok, i will go in my super bed to think about my super dreams... ;) |
| 20:42.04 | mandhyl | bye to all |
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| 20:44.53 | Wizz_Kidd | http://lanceit.com/temp/register.php opiniom please |
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| 20:55.27 | SimAtWork | Wizz_Kidd: looking |
| 20:55.31 | SimAtWork | but |
| 20:55.37 | SimAtWork | i dunno what you want an opion on |
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| 20:56.42 | Aiwlan | GARGHGH! SuSE 10. My clock changes every time I reboot! |
| 20:56.55 | oGALAXYo | wrong channel |
| 20:56.58 | oGALAXYo | ask in #suse |
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| 21:05.30 | EvilGuru | in kformula how do I add a multiplication dot or cdot |
| 21:05.34 | EvilGuru | as it is sometimes known |
| 21:06.32 | SimAtWork | sorry |
| 21:06.41 | SimAtWork | i don't have kformula installed |
| 21:06.46 | SimAtWork | so i have no clue |
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| 21:16.53 | alan | hey all |
| 21:17.08 | markey | hi |
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| 21:17.20 | markey | what can KDE do for you today? |
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| 21:18.04 | kirun | make me pie! |
| 21:18.22 | markey | apple pie OK? |
| 21:18.54 | kirun | yes... all pie is good :) |
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| 21:20.41 | kirun | I'm sure I'm supposed to do /nick apple-pie at this point, but I can't be bothered explaining to 5 other channels why I am not insane |
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| 21:26.32 | SimAtWork | on irc you only explain when you are acting sane |
| 21:26.35 | SimAtWork | insane is expected :) |
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| 21:34.15 | canllaith | kirun: I do that *all the time* |
| 21:34.48 | canllaith | change nick to something really mental in here and forget I've joined three really serious channels to ask questions in the last week and haven't parted from any of them |
| 21:35.18 | StevenR | heya canllaith :) |
| 21:35.38 | pinotree | weeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 21:35.43 | pinotree | canllaith!!! :D |
| 21:36.25 | canllaith | Hey guys :) |
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| 21:45.30 | GraveDigger | hi canllaith |
| 21:45.46 | canllaith | Gday gday |
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| 21:53.42 | eckhart | hi |
| 21:53.43 | GraveDigger | erm.... i kdesktop a single application? |
| 21:53.48 | GraveDigger | a process that runs? |
| 21:53.54 | GraveDigger | (when kde s started) |
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| 21:54.27 | eckhart | when i open an ftp file with kate, i assume that a temporary file will be created |
| 21:54.42 | eckhart | where does this temporary file get stored? |
| 21:54.49 | StevenR | canllaith: hows u? been upto anything interesting? |
| 21:55.15 | StevenR | eckhart: /tmp/one-of-the-dirs-kde-creates-per-user |
| 21:56.03 | canllaith | uh, very very busy working |
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| 21:58.41 | eckhart | StevenR: thanks :-) |
| 21:59.01 | bobbyd | hi |
| 21:59.27 | Blissex | GraveDigger: ,ore or less yes: |
| 21:59.38 | bobbyd | I want to create a script that allows me to select two files in different konqueror windows and run md5sum on them in a konsole. Is there a way to do that under kde? |
| 21:59.38 | GTswagger | I just installed Gentoo for a friend... and he's having a bizarre problem that *won't* go away. He has a HUGE volume popup window that won't go away. Even xkill won't get rid of it. It's there in KDE 3.4.3 ... and KDE 3.5.1 .... any ideas for getting rid of this thing?? |
| 22:00.12 | bobbyd | GTswagger, what do you mind by popup window? |
| 22:00.24 | bobbyd | s/mind/mean |
| 22:00.25 | GraveDigger | Blissex: hmm... well, kdesktop just crashed here, restarted it, now kde runs fine again |
| 22:00.30 | GraveDigger | Blissex: i just wondered |
| 22:01.16 | GTswagger | bobbyd -- a giant window -- centered in screen -- that shows the volume.... he said it's similar to the volume screen he gets in windows when he presses the vol +/- buttons on his laptop... trouble is that it's NOT going away |
| 22:01.19 | Blissex | GraveDigger: what you did is right... KDE has quite a few cooperating processes, tied together by DCOP more or less. It is possible even to pick'n'choose. |
| 22:01.34 | GTswagger | I've tried everything I can think of to make it stop..... killing arts... alsa.... removing kmixer .... nothing works |
| 22:02.06 | GTswagger | and for bonus fun --- if kmixer is installed .... the volume is at 0 |
| 22:02.16 | GTswagger | .... i fyou try to increase volume using alsamixer |
| 22:02.22 | GTswagger | it shoots the volume right back down to 0 |
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| 22:02.25 | bobbyd | GTswagger, install kubuntu :) it's easy and it works :) |
| 22:02.35 | bobbyd | you can have it done in 20 mins :) |
| 22:02.37 | GTswagger | you can cold down the up arrow to increase volume and it'll still shoot volume to 0 |
| 22:02.39 | GraveDigger | Blissex: "pick'n'choose" ?? |
| 22:02.40 | GraveDigger | oO |
| 22:03.02 | GTswagger | bobbyd -- I hate Ubuntu.... Kubuntu is buggy..... he's a power user, wants Gentoo |
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| 22:03.06 | Blissex | GraveDigger: for example I usually don't start KDesktop and a couple of other things to save memory. |
| 22:03.32 | bobbyd | GraveDigger, sounds like gentoo is broken to me :( I would ask in #gentoo |
| 22:03.49 | GraveDigger | bobbyd: LOOOOOOOOOL |
| 22:04.06 | bobbyd | GraveDigger, asking in gentoo? |
| 22:04.35 | GraveDigger | bobbyd: its suse, its not broken, but my memory is highly overclocked, so sometimes shit happens |
| 22:04.40 | GraveDigger | :D |
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| 22:05.47 | Blissex | GraveDigger: begging for trouble, good strategy :-) |
| 22:06.13 | bobbyd | GraveDigger, it's suse? you just said it was Gentoo? |
| 22:06.39 | GTswagger | bobbyd -- asked in Gentoo and got a chorus of Wilco Tango Foxtrot :) |
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| 22:07.07 | GraveDigger | bobbyd: no, i have had asked, if someone may give me the default gentoo's bash prompt style |
| 22:07.18 | GraveDigger | bobbyd: its because i think suse's default bash prompt looks boring |
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| 22:07.34 | GraveDigger | bobbyd: i have dumped gentoo a year ago now :) |
| 22:07.47 | GraveDigger | oh, half a year ... sry |
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| 22:08.17 | GraveDigger | Blissex: *sigh* yeah, that's a good thing :) |
| 22:08.25 | Blissex | bobbyd: the Gentoo masochist was <GTswagger> not <GraveDigger>, who is an overclocked memory masochist :-) |
| 22:08.38 | bobbyd | Blissex, ohh, sorry :) |
| 22:08.47 | L|M|TED | <GraveDigger> do echo $PS1 in gentoo, will give you the format |
| 22:09.22 | GraveDigger | L|M|TED: does the same under suse, but again (for the third time now) i dont USE gentoo ... |
| 22:09.24 | bobbyd | GTswagger, ask in #gentoo :) |
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| 22:09.36 | GTswagger | bobbyd -- asked in Gentoo and got a chorus of Wilco Tango Foxtrot :) |
| 22:09.57 | GraveDigger | L|M|TED: i am just interested in its bash style ... or better to say: i *WAS* interested |
| 22:10.49 | Blissex | GTswagger: that giant window may well be created by the BIOS in his laptop. |
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| 22:11.10 | Blissex | GTswagger: some laptops have a BIOS that contains a media player, which works independently of the OS. |
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| 22:13.54 | GraveDigger | Blissex: wtf? mp in the bios?!?! |
| 22:14.04 | GraveDigger | O_ |
| 22:14.04 | GraveDigger | O_O |
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| 22:14.48 | Blissex | GraveDigger: yes, so you can play even if your OS is not booted up. Many such media players are actually Linux based. These exist also in ''media center'' shoebox style computers. |
| 22:15.20 | Blissex | GraveDigger: even my ancient Toshiba 2800 has a media player, however with no graphics: you can put in a CD and then play it. |
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| 22:16.40 | GraveDigger | Blissex: oh well, i knew about cd drives that played audio cds without having a OS running |
| 22:17.06 | Blissex | GraveDigger: ah this is actually the BIOS that plays it, not the drivem itself. |
| 22:17.16 | GraveDigger | Blissex: but "media player within bios" sounds like television, video and mp3 playback and stuff |
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| 22:17.35 | GraveDigger | u sure? i did that with an ancient 486er computer |
| 22:17.48 | GraveDigger | i really doubt that there's something like that in the bios |
| 22:17.53 | Blissex | GraveDigger: sure, these exist as well nowadays. The idea is that the BIOS can do all that and boot in a few seconds. |
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| 22:21.25 | GraveDigger | Blissex: alright, good to know! thx4information |
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| 22:21.28 | GraveDigger | :) |
| 22:23.10 | GTswagger | Blissex -- yes, on to something there... after he looks into BIOS upgrade going to tell him to poke around in bios itself |
| 22:23.17 | GTswagger | Blissex -- if it's not BIOS it's acpi |
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| 22:42.07 | Huwie | hi everyone. quick question - if i'm using KDE, is it best to stop X before i upgrade KDE? |
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| 22:44.03 | StevenR | Huwie: it would prbably be sensible |
| 22:44.54 | Huwie | i thought as much. thanks StevenR |
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| 22:49.35 | foobarz | does kdelibs directly use the kernel features for dnotify and inotify..?? is there no glibc interface for that stuff? |
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| 22:57.43 | ShadowJK | Is there a fast way, from a program, to detect whether KDE is running? |
| 22:58.15 | ShadowJK | Asking because doing cheap hackish system("dcop ... calls when KDE isn't running, takes ages :) |
| 22:59.19 | ShadowJK | On Linux I'd browse /proc/<pid>/ and look for any process with 'dcop' |
| 22:59.24 | ShadowJK | dunno how portable this would be, though |
| 23:01.04 | foobarz | isn't kdeinit something that always runs if kde is running? |
| 23:01.31 | ShadowJK | hm yeha |
| 23:01.41 | ShadowJK | kdeinit || dcop |
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| 23:02.48 | ShadowJK | Though looking that up portably will be somewhat of a pain |
| 23:02.56 | foobarz | kdeinit is the parent process of the whole KDE, like init is the parent of ALL processes |
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| 23:03.36 | ShadowJK | dcop calls seem to be okay if user is running, say, E, and has atleast one KDE app running, too |
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| 23:22.17 | wilsby | what is the archive tool called under kde? |
| 23:23.33 | SimAtWork | i don't think it's called anything |
| 23:23.38 | SimAtWork | i think it's just built into konqueror |
| 23:23.44 | pinotree | no |
| 23:23.45 | mobtek | ark |
| 23:23.45 | mobtek | ? |
| 23:23.49 | pinotree | yep |
| 23:24.10 | pinotree | it has an integration plugin with konqueror, but it's a separated app |
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| 23:29.43 | GTswagger | hey bobbyd |
| 23:29.45 | GTswagger | still there? |
| 23:32.52 | pinotree | GTswagger: just ask |
| 23:34.18 | GTswagger | no -- bobbyd told me earlier the problem was b/c of Gentoo |
| 23:34.32 | GTswagger | I found the problem is kmix and kmilo |
| 23:34.36 | GTswagger | they go absolutely crazy on guy's Inspiron 9100 |
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| 23:34.48 | GTswagger | it effects 3.4.3 and 3.5.1 in portage |
| 23:35.07 | GTswagger | filing a bug report in gentoo ... they'll almost certainly send me upstream |
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| 23:35.57 | GTswagger | crazy.... kmilo caused a popup that ate 60% of the screen that you can't kill off or make go away.... and kmix fought to keep volume at 0 |
| 23:35.58 | GTswagger | you could go in alsamixer... and HOLD DOWN the up arrow on volume |
| 23:35.58 | GTswagger | and kmix would shoot it down to 0 |
| 23:35.58 | GTswagger | crazy stuff |
| 23:36.14 | GTswagger | kmix would also keep spinning off <defunct> processes and spawning anew |
| 23:36.46 | pinotree | wow |
| 23:36.52 | pinotree | never used kmilo, though |
| 23:37.00 | pinotree | (as i don't have a laptop) |
| 23:37.26 | GTswagger | yea -- no kidding |
| 23:37.56 | GTswagger | *nasty* bug |
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| 23:38.26 | GTswagger | and shocking b/c deep down in a Inspiron 9100 ... it's a Intel AC'97 audio controller... about as vanilla as it gets |
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