| 00:00.18 | solemnwarning | anyone? |
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| 00:01.46 | cherusker | bye guys! |
| 00:01.52 | Fri13 | bye |
| 00:01.55 | joch | bye bye |
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| 00:02.12 | PhilRod | solemnwarning: right-click on text input box -> auto spell check |
| 00:02.17 | sillyboyme | i like the new kde and koffice |
| 00:02.19 | solemnwarning | -_- |
| 00:02.24 | solemnwarning | i said permenenely |
| 00:02.31 | solemnwarning | that only lasts for that page |
| 00:02.36 | Anonycat | I'm on step 3 with the list of checkboxes, and I've unchecked everything except for Desktop Wallpaper, Display Contents in Moving/Resizing Windows, Preview Images, Smoothed Fonts, and Window Moving/Resizing Effects. That list made it so I can open files in Konqueror only be clicking on the filename, not anything further to the right of the last letter. Which checkbox do I need to turn on to get this functionality back? |
| 00:02.36 | lgsobalvarro | solemnwarning: konqueror => settings => configure spell checking ? |
| 00:03.01 | solemnwarning | where is a disable thing there? |
| 00:03.57 | joch | you could perhaps change the client to one not installed |
| 00:04.00 | Wizz_Kidd | anyone know any real time remote desktop apps |
| 00:04.07 | Wizz_Kidd | not like screenshot but real time desktop etc |
| 00:04.16 | solemnwarning | set dictionary to Unknown works :) |
| 00:04.31 | joch | Wizz_Kidd: freenx |
| 00:04.39 | Wizz_Kidd | what is it ? |
| 00:04.45 | joch | http://freenx.berlios.de/ |
| 00:04.45 | lgsobalvarro | ok solemnwarning thats fine |
| 00:05.06 | Wizz_Kidd | i need linux to windows support |
| 00:05.15 | Wizz_Kidd | is a VNC connection real time |
| 00:05.18 | solemnwarning | windows sucks :P |
| 00:05.25 | Wizz_Kidd | yes i know |
| 00:05.28 | joch | Wizz_Kidd: remote desktop? |
| 00:05.30 | joch | works great |
| 00:05.32 | frb-work | Wizz_Kidd: I use rdesktop all the time |
| 00:05.33 | Wizz_Kidd | yes |
| 00:05.40 | lgsobalvarro | solemnwarning: it inst windows, it s wintendo :D |
| 00:05.44 | frb-work | connect to win2k, winxp... |
| 00:05.45 | Wizz_Kidd | rdesktop between win and lin ? |
| 00:05.54 | frb-work | to access linux, I just use ssh |
| 00:05.55 | joch | Wizz_Kidd: from lin to win |
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| 00:06.24 | Wizz_Kidd | wait .......on rdesktop the xp user has to have professional edition right |
| 00:06.30 | joch | i guess |
| 00:06.37 | frb-work | I dunno, I've only used pro |
| 00:06.37 | joch | or win2003 |
| 00:06.41 | frb-work | or win2k |
| 00:06.49 | frb-work | (server) |
| 00:06.50 | Wizz_Kidd | other wise theres no terminal services |
| 00:06.58 | Fri13 | Now when Kmail has supported HTML messages, can i add picture in it and it shows it in message and not as attachment? |
| 00:07.06 | Wizz_Kidd | i need a regular win xp one |
| 00:07.13 | Wizz_Kidd | so i cna connect to a reuglar home version |
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| 00:07.32 | Wizz_Kidd | Fri13: no |
| 00:07.43 | frb-work | Wizz_Kidd: why not? |
| 00:07.54 | frb-work | if it's an image in the html it should be fine if you trust the sender |
| 00:07.57 | Anonycat | Which of the checkboxes in step 3 of the Desktop Settings Wizard needs to be set a specific way in order to allow a file in Konqueror to be opened by clicking anywhere on its horizontal line, and not just on the letters in the filename? |
| 00:07.59 | Wizz_Kidd | you would need to post the pic somewhere a web server or something |
| 00:08.08 | Fri13 | Wizz_Kidd: XP user has to have Pro if user wants get control of other computer. |
| 00:08.30 | Wizz_Kidd | yes thats why i am looking for something else |
| 00:08.33 | Fri13 | Wizz_Kidd: Home edition only support Pro user to connect them. |
| 00:08.35 | Wizz_Kidd | how does VNX work ? |
| 00:08.40 | joch | vnc is slow |
| 00:08.42 | Wizz_Kidd | Fri13: o know |
| 00:08.45 | Wizz_Kidd | i know |
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| 00:08.51 | Wizz_Kidd | thats why rdesktop wont work |
| 00:09.06 | Fri13 | ok |
| 00:09.18 | Wizz_Kidd | but i was thinking maybe vnc would ? |
| 00:09.28 | StevenR | vnc should just work |
| 00:09.35 | joch | vnc will work, but it is very slow |
| 00:09.40 | Wizz_Kidd | how slow lol |
| 00:09.51 | joch | well, try and you will se |
| 00:09.51 | Wizz_Kidd | do i have any other options for a remote desktop |
| 00:09.58 | StevenR | joch: I've never found it slow, it depends entirely on the connection |
| 00:10.06 | Wizz_Kidd | thats what i thoght |
| 00:10.10 | Tarantulafudge | Fri13: your average joe is used to using windows, and will be intimidated by new things that he/she doesnt understand |
| 00:10.20 | joch | StevenR: really? i tried it on a lan connection a while back and it was really slow |
| 00:10.33 | joch | maybe different for different vnc implementations |
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| 00:10.52 | Tarantulafudge | is there a way to implement vnc sound? |
| 00:10.52 | Wizz_Kidd | whats the easit way to get a vnc server on a win box |
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| 00:11.05 | StevenR | joch: I've never found it slow, i had to admin a few systems over the summer using vnc, it was as if I was sitting in front of the monitor |
| 00:11.15 | StevenR | Wizz_Kidd: realVNC |
| 00:11.24 | joch | StevenR: ok |
| 00:11.27 | Wizz_Kidd | im looking for an open soruce alternative |
| 00:11.31 | Wizz_Kidd | for win |
| 00:11.34 | StevenR | tightvnc |
| 00:11.44 | Wizz_Kidd | does tightvnc work on windows |
| 00:11.48 | StevenR | yes |
| 00:11.48 | m_tadeu | hi...kmail downloads each mail i delete....is there a way to disable this? |
| 00:11.55 | Wizz_Kidd | and what if the user has a firewall would they have ot connect to me ? |
| 00:11.57 | StevenR | Wizz_Kidd: I wouldn't have suggested it |
| 00:12.00 | StevenR | otherwise |
| 00:12.27 | Wizz_Kidd | do firewall matter with vnc |
| 00:12.39 | Wizz_Kidd | or would that server ahve to reverse connect to me |
| 00:12.54 | frb-work | firewall doesn't matter |
| 00:13.04 | frb-work | if you can connect to them, it will work |
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| 00:13.14 | Wizz_Kidd | thats the thing man |
| 00:13.20 | Wizz_Kidd | IF you can connect to them |
| 00:13.27 | Wizz_Kidd | they run the vnc server |
| 00:13.34 | Wizz_Kidd | and i try to connect to them |
| 00:13.52 | Wizz_Kidd | and if they have a firewall running most win users do then it wont accept any incoming connections |
| 00:14.22 | Anonycat | What do I need to change, in Control Center/Desktop Settings Wizard/whatever in order to allow a file in Konqueror to be opened by clicking anywhere on its horizontal line, and not just on the letters in the filename? |
| 00:15.02 | StevenR | Wizz_Kidd: from the realvnc site: VNC is available for general use under the conditions of the GNU General Public Licence. |
| 00:15.21 | Wizz_Kidd | ok ........my main concerin is the firewall problem |
| 00:15.52 | m_tadeu | anyone? kmail downloads message data for each deleted mail...? |
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| 00:17.57 | iluzion_ | which is best to use, kdemutlimedia or kdemultimedia-arts |
| 00:18.35 | lgsobalvarro | kmultimedia-arts iluzion_ ? :S |
| 00:19.05 | SMiLeaf | kdemultimedia includes kdemultimedia-arts... |
| 00:19.28 | iluzion_ | oh |
| 00:19.32 | SMiLeaf | I assume your talking about the gentoo split ebuilds? |
| 00:19.36 | iluzion_ | yeah |
| 00:19.52 | SMiLeaf | then yes.. do a emerge -p kdemultimedia-meta |
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| 00:20.06 | iluzion_ | ah, whats the difference? |
| 00:20.17 | SMiLeaf | 1 is using the split ebuilds the other is not. |
| 00:20.34 | SMiLeaf | kdemultimedia-meta is the split ebuild |
| 00:20.48 | iluzion_ | so meta is mutimedia + multimedia-arts? |
| 00:20.51 | SMiLeaf | kdemultimedia is the standard monolithic kde multimedia package. |
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| 00:21.43 | SMiLeaf | the -meta one *is* the kdemultimedia one.. just uses all the split-up packages |
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| 00:21.43 | iluzion_ | ah |
| 00:21.43 | iluzion_ | ok |
| 00:21.45 | SMiLeaf | -arts just happens to be one that the split ebuild uses. |
| 00:21.54 | iluzion_ | k |
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| 00:24.07 | richard_ | Hi I am using Quanta in KDE and I cant seem to get any documentation in it. |
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| 00:24.34 | tonsmandriva | hi |
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| 00:24.48 | lgsobalvarro | ehm richard_ you cant see Quanta's handbook? |
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| 00:24.55 | lgsobalvarro | hello tonsmandriva |
| 00:25.12 | SimAtWork | richard_: try gg:quanta |
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| 00:25.34 | uze | linux-market.org works? |
| 00:25.35 | richard_ | While in Quanta there is a tab on the right side that says documentation. I select that and get the tree but when I select a branch it says that the documentation is missing. |
| 00:25.47 | richard_ | This is documention on HTML CSS and PHP ecyt |
| 00:25.49 | richard_ | ect |
| 00:25.52 | SMiLeaf | richard_: what distro do you use? |
| 00:26.00 | richard_ | I am using ubuntu |
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| 00:26.10 | SMiLeaf | it's probably a separate package. |
| 00:26.28 | SMiLeaf | in the meantime use http://www.w3schools.com/ and http://www.php.net |
| 00:26.31 | richard_ | hmm I wonder what it might be since I have searched for quanta in synaptic |
| 00:27.23 | SMiLeaf | both are excellent sources, where I learned all the html, css, xsl, and php I know :) |
| 00:27.47 | richard_ | Its just a convienant feature |
| 00:29.03 | SMiLeaf | hmmm.. what todo while I wait for gcc to recompile? |
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| 00:29.28 | frb-work | w3schools is not an excellent source |
| 00:29.42 | frb-work | they quite often have deprecated, and even broken code examples |
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| 00:30.07 | SMiLeaf | I have yet to see that. |
| 00:30.32 | SMiLeaf | true I don't use the examples, just use them as a reference tool. |
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| 00:31.17 | SMiLeaf | but I've yet to see a more complete site for html, css and xsl. |
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| 00:32.49 | techrush | w3schools |
| 00:33.00 | techrush | is decent to get started with the very basics of something |
| 00:33.07 | techrush | but it doesnt get very in depth on most things |
| 00:33.24 | frb-work | I'm on #javascript a lot, and most of the problems people have seem to come from them using w3schools as a reference |
| 00:33.38 | frb-work | their name is misleading too, since they have _nothing_ to do with the w3c |
| 00:34.13 | SimAtWork | err, waves |
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| 00:35.01 | Sgeo | Can I store the state of Window Geometries somewhere? |
| 00:35.08 | SMiLeaf | Sgeo: yup |
| 00:35.13 | Sgeo | How? |
| 00:36.00 | SMiLeaf | right click on the window title go to configure window behavior -> Window-specific settings |
| 00:36.38 | Sgeo | How about for *all* windows? |
| 00:36.44 | SMiLeaf | click on new, click detect, choose whatever you need, geometry tab |
| 00:37.08 | SMiLeaf | all windows of a certain program? .. or _all_ windows? |
| 00:37.14 | Sgeo | _all_ windows |
| 00:37.19 | SMiLeaf | can't do.. |
| 00:37.26 | SMiLeaf | not that I've ever seen anyway. |
| 00:37.52 | SMiLeaf | you might be able to get it done with a regular expression match of .* |
| 00:37.52 | Sgeo | Switching over to Ion3 ;-) |
| 00:38.00 | Sgeo | SMiLeaf, hmm? |
| 00:38.19 | SMiLeaf | you can set what you want based on a regular expression in that dialog. |
| 00:38.32 | SMiLeaf | maybe try a reg. exp of .* |
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| 00:45.22 | luksan | i think there should be a law |
| 00:45.40 | luksan | anybody who places "Preferences" or "Settings" under the "Edit" menu should be impaled |
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| 00:47.44 | frb-work | makes sense to me :/ |
| 00:47.57 | frb-work | Edit Preferences... sounds perfectly normal |
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| 00:50.47 | benJIman` | sounds exactly like the thinking of a gnome to me |
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| 01:03.30 | BrunoTheDwarf | Hi, I'm trying to connect to a windows VPN server using vpnc, and I'm not having any sucess (kvpnc just sits at "connecting" constantly) - does anyone have any ideas how I can work out what is going on? |
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| 01:04.25 | Ringwraith` | oh |
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| 01:05.45 | joch | BrunoTheDwarf: i think that windows uses its own vpn implementation (l2tp?) which is not compatible with ipsec/freeswan |
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| 01:06.18 | Ringwraith` | windows uses its own vagina |
| 01:06.27 | waite | Does anyone know if KDE 3.5.1 has fixed the MS exchange ical time zone bug? |
| 01:06.46 | joch | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5to3_5_1.php |
| 01:07.40 | BrunoTheDwarf | joch, I'm trying to use pptp |
| 01:07.44 | BrunoTheDwarf | which is what windows uses |
| 01:08.13 | waite | I looked at the changelog first and found nothing directly regarding this bug |
| 01:08.26 | joch | BrunoTheDwarf: right then, have you checked the logs? |
| 01:08.49 | BrunoTheDwarf | kvpc isn't giving me any .. and I don't know what other logs to check :( |
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| 01:08.58 | BrunoTheDwarf | kvpnc that is |
| 01:09.02 | joch | have a look in /var/log |
| 01:09.30 | joch | i have never used kvpnc so i can not be of much help i'm afraid |
| 01:09.53 | BrunoTheDwarf | ok, nothing in var log for kvpnc, pppd or pptp |
| 01:10.04 | AciD | recently I stumbled across a "Couldn't connect DCOP signal." message in konqueror and, I'm not sure it's related to dcop, I'm not able to use kwallet with kmail anymore too |
| 01:10.15 | AciD | I'm running debian sid |
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| 01:17.39 | waite | acid, Have you tried to see if the dcop server is still running from a console? |
| 01:19.12 | AciD | waite > yes, it's up and running |
| 01:19.15 | AciD | acid 6692 0.0 1.0 23968 9664 ? S Jan31 0:04 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid |
| 01:20.37 | AciD | I'm able to use "dcop amarok player pause/play" messages for instance |
| 01:21.09 | waite | what happens when you start kwallet fron the console? |
| 01:22.15 | AciD | it just launch the kwallet manager |
| 01:22.36 | AciD | but somehow, kmail don't go find the login/password in |
| 01:23.37 | waite | so can you see any debug messages on the console when kmail attempts to contact kwallet? Maybe also start kmail in other window and see if anything comes out |
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| 01:24.45 | AciD | I'll do that, I usually just use kontact |
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| 01:26.20 | AciD | just got the usual errors : http://rafb.net/paste/results/VqChdf50.html |
| 01:26.40 | AciD | the kwallet icon is "closed" though |
| 01:26.52 | benjamindees | what component would I use to file bugs against the clock? |
| 01:26.56 | AciD | iirc, it's supposed to be an "open" wallet |
| 01:27.39 | waite | the open wallet occurs once you authenticate with kwaller |
| 01:27.48 | benjamindees | or rather, what product would I file a bug against? (for the clock) |
| 01:27.50 | elisiano | night |
| 01:27.59 | waite | try to hit the send/recv mail |
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| 01:29.36 | waite | acid, did that pompt you to open the wallet? |
| 01:29.41 | AciD | waite > I can't really test if the solution I found work as it implies a reboot |
| 01:29.53 | AciD | but I just opened a wallet |
| 01:29.57 | AciD | closed kontact |
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| 01:30.03 | AciD | relaunch kontact |
| 01:30.09 | decOding | koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: libMagick.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 01:30.16 | decOding | I have magick installed |
| 01:30.28 | AciD | and then I got a message asking if I wanted to use the opened wallet (always, never, etc) |
| 01:30.31 | r0m | where's the 3.5.1 src tar.bz2 files ? |
| 01:30.42 | r0m | where can i download them ? |
| 01:30.45 | kucrut | r0m: ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/src |
| 01:30.46 | AciD | I suppose it'll be binded with kontact now.. |
| 01:30.51 | r0m | kucrut, many thanks |
| 01:30.51 | r0m | laoding |
| 01:30.58 | fredrikh | decOding: try running ldconfig |
| 01:31.08 | kucrut | r0m: yvw |
| 01:31.45 | waite | acid, It should be |
| 01:32.26 | r0m | yuw |
| 01:32.26 | decOding | fredrikh: :) I did 10s time |
| 01:32.26 | r0m | :-p |
| 01:32.28 | decOding | 10 times* |
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| 01:34.00 | fredrikh | decOding: is libmagick something different from magick in your distribution? |
| 01:34.16 | decOding | fredrikh: slackware using, just checking that |
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| 02:09.49 | Simkin | brrrrr |
| 02:09.53 | Simkin | that was a cold ride today! |
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| 02:17.09 | DexterF | hi |
| 02:17.20 | DexterF | umm. there's something odd here. |
| 02:17.24 | kucrut | hi DexterF |
| 02:18.00 | DexterF | my / just ran full, when investigatine, I found that in /tmp/kde-user I had a truckload of really big part files |
| 02:18.19 | DexterF | seems like all are videos |
| 02:18.33 | DexterF | funny thing here is they seem to match files from another machine |
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| 02:19.30 | DexterF | one is part of a video I just watched. doesn't make sense tho, watched it off dvd |
| 02:19.40 | DexterF | why ae parts of it on disk now? |
| 02:20.05 | kucrut | watch using what app? |
| 02:20.14 | DexterF | kaffeine mainly |
| 02:20.27 | DexterF | xine sometimes. not today. |
| 02:20.27 | kucrut | check your kaffeine config? |
| 02:20.52 | DexterF | well i wouldnt know what would make kaff write the vids being watched to disk |
| 02:21.06 | kucrut | maybe it did some cache to disk? |
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| 02:22.36 | kuja | Hi, I've got a problem trying to get my KDE to use Korean, as in I want my entire KDE to be in Korea... I've installed the correct Korean language pack from the Ubuntu repository however looking in the regional settings Korean isn't available yet. |
| 02:22.44 | kuja | Are there any other steps that need to be done? |
| 02:22.58 | DexterF | now I found videos I *haven't* played on taht machine but which sit on another |
| 02:23.42 | Wizz_Kidd | does kdevelop have any kind of BASIC implemtation |
| 02:24.22 | DexterF | Wizz_Kidd: why should it ffs? |
| 02:25.14 | Wizz_Kidd | ffs? |
| 02:25.23 | Wizz_Kidd | i am asking if it does ? |
| 02:25.57 | DexterF | i'd be very, very surprised if it did |
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| 02:27.37 | djzn | is there a way to make Konqueror work with 5 button mouse? |
| 02:28.06 | Simkin | off to install new nvidia drivers! |
| 02:28.27 | waite | djzn, does your X config have support for all 5 buttons? |
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| 02:29.10 | djzn | waite: yes, Firefox is already working with it..... i set up xorg.conf and firefox is running - don't know what is remaining so that Konqui works too? |
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| 02:29.50 | waite | setup your new keys via control panel->khotkeys |
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| 02:31.15 | djzn | will try that |
| 02:31.23 | djzn | thanks |
| 02:31.29 | LiquidAir | does kdemultimedia have to be compiled with xine, for video file playback? |
| 02:31.46 | waite | wizz_kidd, kdevelop does not support BASIC. from http://kdevelop.kde.org: Ada Bash C/C++ Fortran Haskell Java Pascal Perl PHP Python Ruby SQL |
| 02:31.59 | DexterF | phew |
| 02:32.10 | Wizz_Kidd | thanks |
| 02:32.15 | Wizz_Kidd | i found Kbasic :P |
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| 02:36.38 | DexterF | kucrut: ah.. figured it.. seems when accessing videos thru the sidebar link in "baghira" it downloads any videos to disk |
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| 02:36.51 | DexterF | bob knows why. baghira bug I guess. |
| 02:37.09 | kucrut | DexterF: ah, thanks for the info |
| 02:37.29 | kucrut | i dont use baghira tho ;) |
| 02:37.49 | DexterF | hmmm... media:/ is a kde thing, right? |
| 02:37.52 | DexterF | ill try that, too |
| 02:39.24 | DexterF | hm, nope, no baghira thing - happens in media:/ as well |
| 02:39.31 | DexterF | damn |
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| 02:40.05 | DexterF | but only when hoovering the mouse over the icon |
| 02:40.13 | kucrut | hmm |
| 02:40.21 | kucrut | lemme check my kde temp |
| 02:40.29 | DietrichR | Mmmm KDE 3.5.1 |
| 02:40.30 | DexterF | when it tries to generate a preview image for the tooltip, as it looks, for there appears none |
| 02:40.54 | DexterF | will file a bug report, I guess. wonder if someone cares about 3.4.3 anymore... |
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| 02:42.21 | kucrut | DexterF: my kde-temp is only 488K :P |
| 02:42.35 | DexterF | mine now, too :) |
| 02:42.43 | kucrut | hehe |
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| 02:42.57 | kucrut | DexterF: 3.5.1? |
| 02:43.01 | DexterF | 3.4.3 |
| 02:43.35 | DexterF | saw 3.5.0 on my tinker machine, don't see reason to change-my-running-system |
| 02:43.36 | kucrut | DexterF: huh? |
| 02:43.57 | kucrut | why dont you upgrade? |
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| 02:44.07 | DexterF | everything works well, and there's no new feature in 3.5 i'm hot for, so... |
| 02:44.41 | kucrut | i think you cant file a bug unless you're running the latest ver |
| 02:45.17 | djzn | can KDM display faces in login? |
| 02:45.31 | djzn | i mean, just like the WinXP style...? |
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| 02:45.40 | kucrut | djzn: why not? |
| 02:45.55 | djzn | kucrut: i find too overkill typing username |
| 02:46.19 | kucrut | what kde ver? |
| 02:46.20 | djzn | how do i setup with displaying users and login in clicking them |
| 02:46.21 | Simkin | djzn: you can disable login all together. |
| 02:46.26 | Simkin | djzn: if that is what you want |
| 02:46.39 | djzn | i tell you what i wanted... |
| 02:46.44 | djzn | i wanted the users to be listed |
| 02:46.49 | djzn | so i click the user with the mouse |
| 02:46.53 | djzn | and just enter the system |
| 02:47.00 | djzn | no password for any user |
| 02:47.01 | Simkin | you realize that means they can't have passwords? |
| 02:47.10 | Simkin | do you have a firewall? |
| 02:47.12 | djzn | it's just a home machine |
| 02:47.21 | Simkin | doesn't matter |
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| 02:47.25 | djzn | it's only family accessing it |
| 02:47.28 | Simkin | have you set up a firewall |
| 02:47.32 | Simkin | or do you have a firewall? |
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| 02:47.48 | djzn | yes |
| 02:47.51 | djzn | i have firestarter |
| 02:47.53 | Simkin | ok |
| 02:47.56 | Simkin | no idea what that is |
| 02:47.57 | Simkin | don't care |
| 02:48.03 | Simkin | but as long as you have one or you will get owned |
| 02:48.04 | djzn | it's a firewall software |
| 02:48.05 | Simkin | go to kcontrol |
| 02:48.12 | Simkin | system admin |
| 02:48.14 | Simkin | login manager |
| 02:48.16 | Simkin | go nuts |
| 02:48.49 | djzn | i'm there |
| 02:48.57 | Simkin | you'll have to go to admin mode and enter your root pw obviously |
| 02:49.14 | djzn | i ran it as root... i'm ok |
| 02:49.35 | Simkin | great |
| 02:49.35 | Simkin | i'm off! |
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| 02:50.01 | djzn | well that was nasty |
| 02:50.05 | DexterF | kucrut: of course I can. just because there's a new stable release doesn't mean any distro upgrades. think company. |
| 02:50.06 | djzn | lol |
| 02:50.46 | kucrut | DexterF: hmmm |
| 02:51.39 | DexterF | tho I've been actually told to upgrade to RC1 once when I reported a bug. |
| 02:51.43 | kucrut | DexterF: but, what if the bug is fixed in the latest ver? |
| 02:52.31 | DexterF | yeah, well, to be honest, I'd expect the fix to be backported to the last one or two stable releases. |
| 02:53.09 | kucrut | that's a lot of work ;P |
| 02:53.10 | DexterF | I can't always be forced to go bleeding edge to get one bug fixed and risk system stability and probably introduce more new bugs. |
| 02:53.32 | DexterF | yes it is - a lot of work commercial distributors do for hard currency |
| 02:53.46 | kucrut | what distro are you using actually? |
| 02:53.56 | kucrut | i think SuSE did that kinda thing |
| 02:54.11 | DexterF | which I think is a waste of efforts. x distributors making x times the same software work is reinventing the wheel x times. |
| 02:55.03 | DexterF | yes, SuSE, RH, debian, well, deb ain't commercial. I don't know what drives these people really, but I don't get either why their very well made patches are seldomly incorporated into the base src. |
| 02:55.13 | DexterF | I myself run Slackware -current |
| 02:55.54 | Wizz_Kidd | slackware is not 2 good |
| 02:55.58 | djzn | so KDM doesn't have a face browser???? |
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| 02:56.13 | Wizz_Kidd | anyone here ever use BASIC programming language |
| 02:56.14 | kucrut | djzn: why not use themes? |
| 02:56.29 | kucrut | DexterF: hahah |
| 02:56.32 | DexterF | go play with your friends on quakenet will ya? |
| 02:56.35 | djzn | kucrut: the theme will give me face browser? |
| 02:56.45 | kuja | How do I lower my desktop resolution, from *within* KDE? |
| 02:56.46 | kucrut | djzn: depends |
| 02:57.12 | DexterF | in the name of bob what kind goes walkabout on a linux channel and yells for *basic* anyway? |
| 02:57.15 | kucrut | kuja: kcontrol > peripheral > display |
| 02:57.21 | kuja | kucrut: Thank you |
| 02:57.25 | kucrut | kuja: yvw |
| 02:57.31 | DexterF | kuja: there's an applet, too |
| 02:57.40 | kuja | I am on the brink of exploding cause of KDE, not cause of the resolution though |
| 02:57.43 | djzn | kucrut: depends how, is that just a matter of downloading and installing a theme? |
| 02:58.05 | kucrut | djzn: depends on the theme itself |
| 02:58.20 | djzn | kucrut: do you know of any? |
| 02:58.33 | kuja | How do I have KDE's anti-aliasing apply to GTK apps? |
| 02:58.38 | kucrut | djzn: go search on kde-look.org |
| 02:59.12 | kucrut | kuja: do you have gtk-engine-qt? |
| 02:59.25 | kuja | Yes, but it doesn't seem to be applying the same anti-aliasing |
| 02:59.38 | kucrut | kuja: it worked here ;) |
| 02:59.50 | kuja | You probably have a clear moniter :P |
| 02:59.51 | DexterF | hmm, isnt there an env var for that? |
| 02:59.57 | kucrut | kuja: lol |
| 02:59.57 | DexterF | GDK_USE_XFT or so? |
| 03:00.05 | kuja | Mine is 9 years old, so it becomes clear to tell |
| 03:00.33 | kucrut | kuja: mine is 6 months young ;) |
| 03:00.38 | djzn | kucrut: i saw all kdm themes, none comes with face browsing |
| 03:00.39 | kuja | :) |
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| 03:00.43 | DexterF | kuja: try: GDK_USE_XFT=1 <appname> from shell |
| 03:00.55 | kucrut | djzn: lemme search, hang on |
| 03:00.59 | djzn | ok |
| 03:01.02 | kuja | So like `GDK_USE_XFT=1 xchat` ? |
| 03:01.16 | DexterF | yup |
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| 03:01.39 | kuja | DexterF: Then restart X-Chat? |
| 03:01.48 | DexterF | no, that will run xchat |
| 03:02.07 | DexterF | but with that option |
| 03:02.19 | kuja | Didn't run X-Chat :P |
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| 03:02.33 | DexterF | huh? |
| 03:02.33 | kuja | Neverind |
| 03:02.36 | kuja | mind* |
| 03:02.56 | DexterF | well, try GDK... <anygtkapp> |
| 03:03.04 | kuja | It ran |
| 03:03.06 | kuja | But it looks the same |
| 03:03.16 | DexterF | bummer. outta ideas then. |
| 03:03.21 | DexterF | gtg, too. |
| 03:03.22 | kuja | I'm using GNOME's anti-aliasing as well, but it looks like crap, but not in GNOME |
| 03:03.27 | kuja | kay, bye and thanks :) |
| 03:03.32 | DexterF | yw |
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| 03:04.23 | Wizz_Kidd | anyone know if there are any basic / kde bindings |
| 03:05.08 | kucrut | Wizz_Kidd: :P |
| 03:05.20 | Tarantulafudge | whats the best vnc software to use? (for server) |
| 03:05.48 | Wizz_Kidd | kucrut: ? |
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| 03:06.00 | kucrut | Tarantulafudge: why not nxserver-freenx? |
| 03:06.09 | kucrut | Wizz_Kidd: forget it, sorry ;) |
| 03:06.14 | Tarantulafudge | whats that |
| 03:06.17 | Tarantulafudge | kucrut: whats that |
| 03:06.46 | kucrut | Tarantulafudge: you want to remote X, right? |
| 03:06.57 | Wizz_Kidd | so does anyone know if there are any KDE bindings for BASIC ? |
| 03:07.06 | Tarantulafudge | yea, my friends gotta be able to use this too |
| 03:07.26 | kucrut | Tarantulafudge: i'm using it right now |
| 03:07.41 | kucrut | and the client can be installed on both linux and wincrap |
| 03:07.48 | Tarantulafudge | ok for windows users |
| 03:07.50 | Tarantulafudge | ? |
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| 03:08.02 | Tarantulafudge | is it fast and unlaggy? |
| 03:08.08 | Tarantulafudge | and multiclient able? |
| 03:08.12 | kucrut | bloody fast! |
| 03:08.16 | kucrut | yep |
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| 03:08.46 | kucrut | you can set the connection property (lan, dsl, cable, etc) |
| 03:09.21 | kucrut | djzn: couldnt find any, maybe we should try to make a new one? ;) |
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| 03:10.03 | djzn | ill try gdm |
| 03:10.31 | Tarantulafudge | lemme get this straight, lots of people can control the same desktop? |
| 03:10.38 | Tarantulafudge | @ kucrut |
| 03:10.51 | kucrut | ah, that's what you mean |
| 03:11.12 | kucrut | i dont think so |
| 03:11.22 | kucrut | maybe you can use desktop sharing in kde? |
| 03:11.27 | Tarantulafudge | i need that bad |
| 03:12.05 | Wizz_Kidd | how cna i run a .bin in linux ???? |
| 03:12.11 | Tarantulafudge | i dont use kde in this box |
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| 03:14.47 | kucrut_ | damn router |
| 03:16.10 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: a .bin is just like any other executable |
| 03:16.19 | luksan | make sure it has execute permissions |
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| 03:18.50 | Wizz_Kidd | so if i have file.bin and its in /home/me/file.bin |
| 03:19.07 | luksan | is it executable? |
| 03:19.16 | luksan | does it have execute permissions? |
| 03:19.16 | Wizz_Kidd | yes |
| 03:19.19 | Wizz_Kidd | yes |
| 03:19.28 | luksan | so go to the shell and type /home/me/file.bin |
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| 03:20.30 | LiquidAir | what is kde's video player called? |
| 03:20.36 | Wizz_Kidd | error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 03:21.00 | kucrut | LiquidAir: kaffeine? kmplayer? |
| 03:21.05 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: so you're missing the standard C++ library |
| 03:21.23 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: or version 6 of the shared library anyway |
| 03:21.46 | Wizz_Kidd | hmm is this a problem lol |
| 03:22.18 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: it means you need to install one probably - what distro are you on? |
| 03:22.46 | Wizz_Kidd | mandrake |
| 03:23.42 | luksan | there should be a package for libstdc++ |
| 03:24.37 | Wizz_Kidd | welllll |
| 03:25.13 | Wizz_Kidd | doesnt matter really dont care about this app BUT i have all the c++std things |
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| 03:26.28 | luksan | it could be that it requires a newer (or older) version that your distro version does not provide |
| 03:26.39 | Wizz_Kidd | blah doesnt matter :) |
| 03:26.47 | luksan | find /usr/lib -name 'libstdc++.so.*' will show you what you have installed |
| 03:26.56 | Wizz_Kidd | jus for BASIC compile but i already have a waaay better one |
| 03:27.34 | Wizz_Kidd | i have a .js file i need to execute .......how cna i do this if i double click it it open it up in krite but i odnt want that |
| 03:27.43 | Wizz_Kidd | i want it to run it with kjscmd |
| 03:27.58 | luksan | use the same dialog you used to change the icon for rar's |
| 03:28.16 | Wizz_Kidd | luksan: huh |
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| 03:28.56 | luksan | right click on properties, click on the tool button, and then you go to Preferred Applications and click on Add |
| 03:29.06 | luksan | if would be kjscmd %f |
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| 03:29.30 | tambu | prolly a dumb question.. but if you add a group to a user and that user is running kde currently if you open a new konsole window it doesn't update the users groups.. You have to restart kde.. is there a less destructive way to update kde? |
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| 03:30.01 | rx_ | is it possible to use kde without konqueror? |
| 03:30.13 | luksan | tambu: i don't think this is a kde-specific issue.... no applications update groups until you restart it... it is anoying |
| 03:30.30 | luksan | rx_: what do you mean? like not have it installed? |
| 03:30.43 | rx_ | yeah |
| 03:31.01 | luksan | rx_: yes, but it may be difficult to impossible to depending on your distro |
| 03:31.03 | kucrut | tambu: i think you can use `newgrp` command |
| 03:31.30 | luksan | rx_: furthermore, the bulk of Konqueror is the KHTML, which is part of kdelibs, which you are required to have |
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| 03:32.13 | rx_ | ok |
| 03:32.19 | rx_ | hmm |
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| 03:32.31 | DaSkreech | Is there a mirror for Planet Diaz? |
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| 03:33.14 | Lathiat | When opening something in konqueror and it says "Open in <app>"/Save as/cancel is there any way to choose an alternative application? |
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| 03:34.03 | luksan | right click the file and go to "Open with..." just like in windblows |
| 03:35.29 | tambu | luksan, thanks the newgrp worked.. appreciate it |
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| 03:35.55 | DaSkreech | or could someone be kind enough to point me to the original photos :-D |
| 03:35.58 | djzn | can KDM display face browsing? |
| 03:36.13 | DaSkreech | djzn: Face browsing? |
| 03:36.28 | djzn | Das: yes, just like WinXP welcome screen logon |
| 03:38.01 | luksan | tambu: except i wasn't the one who said that |
| 03:38.20 | tambu | luskan oops.. hrm. |
| 03:38.33 | tambu | kucrut, my apologies thanks man :) |
| 03:38.34 | Anonycat | What setting in the Control Center/Konqueror/whatever do I need to fix so that when I click on a horizontal row in the file manager, it highlights the whole line instead of stopping at the end of the filename? |
| 03:38.41 | tambu | luksan: thanks for nothing :P j/k |
| 03:38.55 | luksan | djzn: it is under KControl, you need to go into administrator mode |
| 03:39.10 | luksan | djzn: or control center |
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| 03:39.31 | djzn | luksan: yes, i am there... what is the option there |
| 03:40.39 | djzn | it says there "Show List" in the users tab |
| 03:40.48 | djzn | is that the option? |
| 03:41.17 | luksan | you need to have show list enabled, yes |
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| 03:41.42 | djzn | ok, now there is this KUBUNTU theme.... |
| 03:41.46 | DaSkreech | I thought they took out face browsing |
| 03:41.53 | djzn | it seems that it doesn't let the list show up |
| 03:42.09 | djzn | how do i remove kubuntu theme from kdm |
| 03:42.10 | luksan | djzn: ahh... it probably won't show up then |
| 03:42.36 | luksan | do you have a KDM Theme Manager entry in KControl |
| 03:42.38 | luksan | ? |
| 03:42.47 | djzn | no |
| 03:42.51 | djzn | do I need to download that |
| 03:42.52 | djzn | ? |
| 03:43.47 | luksan | no, it is part of 3.5 |
| 03:44.13 | luksan | oh wait, silly me |
| 03:44.20 | luksan | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120 |
| 03:45.16 | luksan | you can download it |
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| 03:46.04 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 03:46.12 | DaSkreech | Anyone know planet diaz? |
| 03:47.52 | luksan | ? |
| 03:48.12 | djzn | i see here |
| 03:48.16 | djzn | the KDM them manager |
| 03:48.43 | luksan | djzn: but let me warn you that unthemed kdm is very ugly |
| 03:48.47 | DaSkreech | luksan: A site that put up a collection of KDe4 screenshots and got slashdotted |
| 03:50.05 | luksan | hmmm |
| 03:50.11 | luksan | URL? |
| 03:54.34 | DaSkreech | luksan: http://www.planetdiaz.com/ |
| 03:54.38 | DaSkreech | luksan: Sorry :) |
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| 03:57.24 | Wizz_Kidd | what platform is i386 ? |
| 03:57.43 | Gentle | IBM compatible PC, 386 and up |
| 03:58.01 | Gentle | those things people have who don't know what they have |
| 03:58.06 | luksan | DaSkreech: i don't see the screenshots |
| 03:58.34 | DaSkreech | Well Yeah |
| 03:58.37 | DaSkreech | Got pulled dwon |
| 03:58.39 | DaSkreech | down |
| 03:58.50 | Wizz_Kidd | so would my pc be a i386 lol |
| 03:59.10 | DaSkreech | luksan: Oh It's back up!! |
| 03:59.19 | DaSkreech | Hooray month change!! |
| 03:59.30 | benjamindees | Wizz_Kidd, undoubtedly... |
| 03:59.30 | DaSkreech | luksan: try http://www.planetdiaz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=127 |
| 03:59.32 | luksan | DaSkreech: i found them |
| 03:59.39 | luksan | DaSkreech: they're mockups |
| 03:59.56 | Wizz_Kidd | benjamindees: ????? |
| 03:59.56 | DaSkreech | Right |
| 04:00.01 | Wizz_Kidd | it is or is not ? |
| 04:00.04 | luksan | DaSkreech: some of them don't even have anything to do with KDE 4 ... for instance the PC-BSD Control Center |
| 04:00.14 | luksan | They're just ideas that people have |
| 04:00.16 | benjamindees | Wizz_Kidd, that means yes... |
| 04:00.22 | Wizz_Kidd | is kde 4 even in working order right now ? |
| 04:00.26 | Wizz_Kidd | thanks sec |
| 04:01.00 | Gentle | Wizz_Kidd, KDE4 is not usable for end-users, what currently is called KDE4 would be a developer's toy which is quite unusable |
| 04:01.04 | DaSkreech | luksan: http://www.planetdiaz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=141 |
| 04:01.23 | Wizz_Kidd | so its not even in a working / beta state as of now |
| 04:02.09 | LiquidAir | where are the win32 codecs suppose to go /usr/*/win32 ? |
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| 04:02.33 | DaSkreech | is there going to be win64 codecs? |
| 04:02.54 | LiquidAir | the win32 codecs don't work on 64? |
| 04:02.54 | benjamindees | LiquidAir, /usr/lib/win32 |
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| 04:03.07 | seren | hello |
| 04:03.41 | seren | i have suspend2 disk setup but i want acpi to send the event to kde to have it logout what is the kde command to do that? |
| 04:03.55 | seren | *logout when power button is prssed |
| 04:04.08 | luksan | DaSkreech: i really like the file manager w/ the preview pane on the right |
| 04:04.20 | Anonycat | What setting in the Control Center/Konqueror/whatever do I need to fix so that when I click on a horizontal row in the file manager, it highlights the whole line instead of stopping at the end of the filename? |
| 04:04.35 | luksan | DaSkreech: though i am really skeptical that the actual release will be as beautiful as what these artists can conjure up |
| 04:04.56 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 04:05.11 | luksan | i'm glad they're at least not trying to copy OS X |
| 04:05.12 | DaSkreech | Well jump in the code and help make that false! :) |
| 04:05.34 | luksan | lol |
| 04:05.46 | luksan | yeah, i think i need to do more coding in KDE 3 first |
| 04:05.55 | DaSkreech | ;-) |
| 04:07.09 | Wizz_Kidd | luksan: http://www.sourcextreme.com/presentations/KJSEmbed/building_applications.html |
| 04:07.14 | Wizz_Kidd | pretty kool |
| 04:07.31 | seren | anyone what the command used for kde to logout and save the current session? |
| 04:08.18 | Wizz_Kidd | i dont get why they use qt designer by troll tech to do that when kdevelop offers the same thing |
| 04:08.20 | luksan | seren: do you have it set to normally save your session? |
| 04:08.26 | seren | yes i believe so |
| 04:08.37 | luksan | seren: if so then 'dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout' should work |
| 04:08.58 | seren | luksan, do you know acpi? |
| 04:09.20 | luksan | what do you mean do i know it? |
| 04:09.41 | luksan | ACPI is a power management standard |
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| 04:10.04 | seren | sorry here tell me if this will work |
| 04:11.36 | seren | luksan, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Dllvk761.html |
| 04:13.20 | seren | im gonna find out the hars daw =) |
| 04:13.26 | seren | hard way* |
| 04:13.31 | luksan | seren: hmm... i doubt it |
| 04:13.37 | luksan | seren: lots of concurrency issues |
| 04:13.50 | seren | lets see |
| 04:14.35 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: interesting |
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| 04:14.46 | Wizz_Kidd | yea |
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| 04:15.03 | Wizz_Kidd | imma make an app in it .......a mini im client |
| 04:15.10 | Simkin | can yo uhave GLX + COmposite? |
| 04:15.12 | Wizz_Kidd | for this guy and for learning |
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| 04:15.25 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: um... Qt Designer came first, and I think the KDevelopDesigner or whatever is just an adaptation |
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| 04:15.38 | Simkin | i preffer kdevelop though |
| 04:15.46 | Wizz_Kidd | luksan: yea but still ....... :P i would use the kde one |
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| 04:16.03 | Wizz_Kidd | any of you know c or c++ here? |
| 04:16.19 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: well, a lot of the KDE devs use XEmacs (!), |
| 04:16.21 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: yes |
| 04:16.31 | Wizz_Kidd | which one do you know |
| 04:16.37 | luksan | both |
| 04:16.47 | Wizz_Kidd | i seee any syntax chnages between to 2 ? |
| 04:16.53 | Wizz_Kidd | the 2 |
| 04:17.03 | luksan | C++ extends C obviously |
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| 04:17.15 | luksan | are you asking is there any C code that won't work under C++? |
| 04:17.28 | Simkin | there are a few things |
| 04:17.36 | Simkin | but i can't even remember what they are any more |
| 04:17.42 | Aji-Dahaka | reserved words are the most obvious |
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| 04:17.44 | Simkin | i think they're listed on wikipedia under C++ or something |
| 04:17.45 | Wizz_Kidd | yess.....but still .......i thgoht they were 2 total different langauges |
| 04:17.45 | luksan | like pointers under C++ are typesafe |
| 04:17.49 | seren | didnt work |
| 04:17.50 | luksan | nooooo |
| 04:17.58 | Aji-Dahaka | they are very similar in some ways |
| 04:18.02 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: they are, but C++ inherits most of its stuff from C |
| 04:18.09 | Wizz_Kidd | i seeee |
| 04:18.12 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: the main difference is that C++ adds objects and classes |
| 04:18.31 | Wizz_Kidd | i have used ruby python php some perl and other small stuff like javascript etc etc |
| 04:18.44 | Wizz_Kidd | i am thinking of learning C |
| 04:18.50 | luksan | well that's more like C++ |
| 04:18.54 | Wizz_Kidd | i also know some RealBasic |
| 04:19.00 | Aji-Dahaka | it's worthe learning (C) |
| 04:19.37 | Simkin | Wizz_Kidd: the thing is. C++ programming with Qt is pretty well totally unlike C++ programming :) |
| 04:19.37 | Wizz_Kidd | im not totally new to programming either ......so i guessi have a small advantage there |
| 04:19.42 | Wizz_Kidd | Simkin: wtf ????? |
| 04:19.51 | Simkin | Wizz_Kidd: it's true |
| 04:19.58 | Wizz_Kidd | i odnt get what you mean |
| 04:20.01 | Simkin | pretty well all you need to do you use the Qt library for. |
| 04:20.04 | Wizz_Kidd | can you use C + QT ? |
| 04:20.12 | Simkin | i don't see how. |
| 04:20.19 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: you wouldn't want to |
| 04:20.20 | Wizz_Kidd | what do you mean |
| 04:20.32 | Simkin | Qt makes extensive use of objects. |
| 04:20.38 | Simkin | i don't know how you could do it in just plain C |
| 04:20.39 | Wizz_Kidd | i seeeee |
| 04:20.39 | luksan | Wizz_Kidd: Qt is an object-oriented library, C is not object-oriented |
| 04:20.49 | Wizz_Kidd | i seeeeee |
| 04:21.01 | seren | anyone know how to make acpi logout then hibernate? im using acpi |
| 04:21.06 | seren | *suspend2 |
| 04:22.17 | seren | luksan, what was the logout command? |
| 04:22.33 | luksan | seren: um... it won't work anyway |
| 04:22.47 | seren | why |
| 04:22.57 | luksan | seren: it's hard to explain, but basically you don't know which is going to complete first, the logout or the hybernate, and that is the problem |
| 04:23.07 | seren | ahhh ic |
| 04:23.09 | luksan | seren: how are you calling your script? |
| 04:23.09 | Aji-Dahaka | huh? |
| 04:23.19 | seren | the hibernate script? |
| 04:23.23 | luksan | yes |
| 04:23.25 | Aji-Dahaka | why can't one just <logout command>; <hibernate command>? |
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| 04:23.44 | seren | i want to use acpi with the power button |
| 04:23.58 | luksan | Aji-Dahaka: you could as long as the script was running from outside kde |
| 04:24.00 | luksan | seren: ok |
| 04:24.02 | seren | acpi calls the hibernate script |
| 04:24.05 | luksan | seren: there's another problem then |
| 04:24.19 | luksan | seren: the ACPI will be run as root |
| 04:24.30 | seren | yea your right |
| 04:24.32 | luksan | seren: but you want it to talk to your dcop server |
| 04:24.34 | Wizz_Kidd | hmmm c++ seeems to much right now |
| 04:24.42 | luksan | seren: which i don't know how to make it do that |
| 04:24.45 | Aji-Dahaka | Wizz_Kidd: learn C first, it's fun :) |
| 04:24.52 | Wizz_Kidd | i havent worked with anything pass scirpitng langs |
| 04:25.09 | Wizz_Kidd | well yea but i dont want to learn c and not be able to use the QT gui |
| 04:25.14 | luksan | but, on the bright side, i do know how to manually save a session |
| 04:25.23 | Aji-Dahaka | :) |
| 04:25.23 | luksan | dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession |
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| 04:25.42 | luksan | C(++) is overrated anyway |
| 04:25.42 | Aji-Dahaka | aren't there qt bindings for C? |
| 04:25.48 | Aji-Dahaka | thought they had it for everything |
| 04:26.01 | luksan | Aji-Dahaka: i think there were at one point, but i doubt they're still maintained |
| 04:26.10 | seren | hmmm |
| 04:26.11 | Aji-Dahaka | oh, that's too bad |
| 04:26.15 | Aji-Dahaka | C is catchy |
| 04:26.20 | Aji-Dahaka | good for some problems |
| 04:26.23 | seren | can i have the logout command on kde call hibernate? |
| 04:27.32 | luksan | seren: it would be a separate option, but you have to configure power management under Control Center |
| 04:27.32 | Wizz_Kidd | hmmmmmmm |
| 04:28.20 | Aji-Dahaka | seren: why not just have your system call a hibernate script on <whatever you like> and have it do the logout command for kde and the suspend command? |
| 04:28.31 | seren | in control center ---> power control --> all i have is laptop battery??? im on a desktop |
| 04:28.53 | luksan | right, it is under Laptop Batter, as strange as it seems |
| 04:29.41 | Wizz_Kidd | grrrrrrr |
| 04:29.44 | Aji-Dahaka | man I'd hope that qt doesn't drop C bindings |
| 04:29.58 | luksan | Aji-Dahaka: you make it sound like you're using them |
| 04:30.17 | seren | Aji-Dahaka, i did |
| 04:30.25 | Aji-Dahaka | luksan: I'm using them, but not as a programmer |
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| 04:30.45 | seren | Aji-Dahaka, i have it in my acpi script as acpi event is what calls the hibernate command |
| 04:31.22 | Wizz_Kidd | i found a few |
| 04:31.26 | Wizz_Kidd | but they are not updated |
| 04:31.36 | Wizz_Kidd | guessi iwll just have to learn c++ |
| 04:31.46 | SMiLeaf | and 6 hours later I'm finally ready to install kdelibs ^_^ ... ahh.. manually doing dependencies is fun. |
| 04:32.03 | luksan | i don't know what sort of masochistic personality would want to program Qt with C |
| 04:32.09 | seren | SMiLeaf, ever heard of portage? |
| 04:32.21 | SMiLeaf | seren: yup.. and dislike alot about it :P |
| 04:32.27 | Simkin | SMiLeaf: are you trying to kde 4 or something? |
| 04:32.45 | SMiLeaf | Simkin: nope.. 3.5.1 |
| 04:32.55 | Simkin | SMiLeaf: why did you have to do it manually? |
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| 04:33.12 | Simkin | i wish kde had a "get more screen savers" thing of a mabob |
| 04:33.12 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: what's your kdm plugin called again? |
| 04:33.19 | SMiLeaf | kdmtheme |
| 04:33.29 | kucrut | k, thx |
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| 04:36.06 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: 0.9.2 is the latest, right? |
| 04:36.13 | SMiLeaf | 1.0.1 |
| 04:36.19 | SMiLeaf | just released it yesterday :) |
| 04:36.36 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: where's the src? |
| 04:37.02 | SMiLeaf | you can find it on kde-look.org or kde-apps.org .. or beta.smileaf.org .. whatever you like :) |
| 04:37.14 | kucrut | hah |
| 04:38.30 | seren | anyone have suggestions for a way for acpi to (on power button) logout kde and execute syspend2? im lost |
| 04:38.39 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: thanks for the ebuild |
| 04:38.44 | kucrut | you're my hero, lol |
| 04:38.52 | SMiLeaf | XD |
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| 04:44.47 | BrunoTheDwarf | hi, is anyone familiar with kvpnc? |
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| 04:47.46 | [Sheridan] | wow |
| 04:47.49 | [Sheridan] | ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ |
| 04:48.45 | DietrichR | I wish women were like KDE =) |
| 04:48.45 | [Sheridan] | ÎÁÒÏÏÄ |
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| 04:49.12 | [Sheridan] | ÐÏÍÏÇÉÔÅ ÐÌÉÚ |
| 04:49.23 | kucrut | ?? |
| 04:49.35 | luke-jr_ | checking whether build environment is sane... yes |
| 04:49.35 | luke-jr_ | it lies... |
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| 04:49.35 | jinx0r | is there a way to add a second taskbar |
| 04:49.36 | Lathiat | luksan: what makes you think i have any idea how to do it in windows :) thanks, could do with the ability to change once the windows up tho, but yeh |
| 04:49.39 | luke-jr_ | jinx0r: taskbar or panel? |
| 04:49.55 | [Sheridan] | ghm... englich channel? |
| 04:49.55 | Lathiat | luksan: (I'm coming from GNOME, i havent touched windows for a very long time :) |
| 04:49.56 | jinx0r | luke-jr_ Panel sorry |
| 04:49.57 | jz | anyone know of any tutorials for building kicker applets? |
| 04:49.59 | luke-jr_ | jinx0r: yes |
| 04:50.17 | luke-jr_ | jinx0r: right click on a panel->Add New Panel |
| 04:51.31 | [Sheridan] | camrades, help me please... kcmshell panel doesnt work... |
| 04:51.33 | [Sheridan] | kutils (KCModuleContainer): KCModuleContainer: module 'kicker_config_arrangement' was not found and thus not loaded |
| 04:51.38 | jz | I guess not... |
| 04:51.39 | [Sheridan] | and etc... |
| 04:51.48 | [Sheridan] | kde 3.5.1 |
| 04:52.36 | [Sheridan] | http://sheridan.stavcom.ru/filez/kicker.tar.bz2 this out of kcmshell panel and strace kcmshell panel |
| 04:53.19 | [Sheridan] | im badly known english, sorry... Russia... |
| 04:54.37 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: you got a link to kdm theme howto? |
| 04:54.51 | SMiLeaf | kucrut: how to make one? |
| 04:54.57 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: yep |
| 04:55.41 | SMiLeaf | kucrut: nope, if you find one let me know.. I get asked that alot. |
| 04:55.47 | jinx0r | luke-jr_ cool thanks |
| 04:55.51 | kucrut | SMiLeaf: lol |
| 04:57.26 | luke-jr_ | (it takes too long to error) |
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| 04:57.49 | seren | anyone know why i cant access power control in control center? |
| 04:57.59 | luke-jr_ | you have no power? |
| 04:58.03 | seren | it says acpi isnt configured correctly.. it is though |
| 04:58.10 | BrunoTheDwarf | I'm having problems getting kvpnc working, I can get a connection to a windows vpn server the hard way (setting up pptp and pppd manually), but it's not very user friendly, could anyone help me work out why kvpnc doesn't work? |
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| 04:59.56 | seren | anyone http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/D1C0vS57.html ? |
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| 05:00.43 | Borg^Queen | Hey people. I'm trying to create a new user using kuser, but when I try to log in as the user I get something about dcopserver not running something |
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| 05:25.13 | seren | anyone??? http://rafb.net/paste/results/jVC2q720.html |
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| 05:31.13 | seren | whats the command to logout from kde from a shell? |
| 05:32.09 | grepper | dcop ksmserver default logout int int int |
| 05:32.33 | grepper | I can't remember what the last 3 numbers are or mean - google knows |
| 05:33.45 | seren | dcop ksmserver default logout wont work? |
| 05:35.38 | grepper | it try 0 0 0 |
| 05:35.44 | grepper | s/it// |
| 05:37.20 | seren | oops |
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| 05:43.04 | kakalto | I upgraded from gentoo's kde-3.5.0-r1 to 3.5.0-r2 and now, on the splash screen, it stops at the devices section (with the icon still animated). When I ran X from the terminal, I noticed two things - something complaining about my dvorak keymap not existing (or something similar), and a problem with fonts (dir missing or wrong permissions) |
| 05:43.41 | kakalto | can anyone help? |
| 05:44.28 | Wizz_Kidd | im have to get #kjsembed channel active again |
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| 05:51.31 | _kkrizka | hello |
| 05:51.43 | kakalto | hello. |
| 05:51.49 | _kkrizka | is it possible to change the text editor for "view source" in konqueror? |
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| 05:54.52 | kakalto | I, myself, have no idea, sorry, but stick around. Someone else in this place will know :) |
| 05:55.16 | grepper | probably would have to change your default text editor |
| 05:56.04 | kakalto | of course, I couldn't tell you, as I'm also looking for help - after upgrading, I've been left with a non-working kde |
| 05:57.14 | grepper | under file associations for *txt |
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| 06:00.58 | morepheend | hello |
| 06:01.04 | kucrut | hi morepheend |
| 06:01.54 | morepheend | is there more than one option for the "Save File As" dialog window in 3.4.3 |
| 06:02.03 | BrunoTheDwarf | Hi, I'm trying to get help with kvpnc - would anyone be familiar with it? |
| 06:02.08 | morepheend | as in to use a different style window |
| 06:03.24 | kkrizka | grepper: thanks, it was the text/plain mimetype that controlled the source editor |
| 06:03.37 | grepper | ok, np |
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| 06:05.37 | morepheend | i'm not sure if I'm wording that correctly |
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| 06:06.13 | kucrut | morepheend: can you give an example? ;) |
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| 06:08.37 | morepheend | kucrut: when you download a file with firefox it opens the save to dialog. |
| 06:09.34 | kucrut | yeah, and? |
| 06:09.44 | kucrut | what exactly you want? |
| 06:09.50 | morepheend | kucrut: mine looks very old, it doesn't have the "back" "forward" "home" buttons, address bar, just a very basic window |
| 06:09.52 | kucrut | i mean, what kinda style? |
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| 06:10.07 | morepheend | the one that the rest of KDE uses |
| 06:10.34 | kucrut | ok, i'll check mine |
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| 06:11.46 | morepheend | I can send a link to a screenshot so you can see which one I want to use if you want. |
| 06:13.18 | kucrut | morepheend: ok |
| 06:13.30 | morepheend | I know firefox used the one that I want when I had Debian installed. When I switched to kubuntu it went to the other one. |
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| 06:13.54 | morepheend | http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=14785&file1=14785-1.png&file2=14785-2.png&file3=&name=Firefox+%26+KDialog+Save+As |
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| 06:18.03 | morepheend | kucrut:see what I mean? |
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| 06:19.16 | benjamindees | morepheend, what version of debian were you using? Sarge doesn't have that... |
| 06:19.31 | owner | why is it easier to install themes for gnome than it is for kde |
| 06:19.42 | owner | you have to compile all the kde themes from source |
| 06:20.50 | morepheend | testing |
| 06:21.44 | owner | testing |
| 06:22.25 | owner | !kde |
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| 06:26.43 | borgqueen | hey people I'm trying to add a user but everytime I try to log in as the new user, I get something about dcopserver not running. "Please check that the dcopserver program is running" |
| 06:27.16 | borgqueen | I also get "could not read network connection //.DCOPserver_ etc |
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| 06:29.31 | morepheend | anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:30.04 | borgqueen | pardon |
| 06:30.08 | morepheend | or what binary is launched when the file picker is envoked? |
| 06:30.38 | borgqueen | sorry no |
| 06:30.47 | borgqueen | brb |
| 06:31.52 | morepheend | I don't understand why Firefox can't use that style file picker when every other KDE app I've checked does. |
| 06:33.06 | aseigo | firefox isn't a kde app |
| 06:33.22 | aseigo | so to make it use the kde file dialog, one has to hack firefox to do so. just as one does with kprinter |
| 06:33.41 | morepheend | hmm |
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| 06:36.34 | benjamindees | that qt port of firefox has rotted away hasn't it? |
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| 06:44.06 | pfein | is there a kicker applet that does volume control? |
| 06:44.16 | morepheend | pfein: yep |
| 06:44.26 | morepheend | kmix |
| 06:44.38 | pfein | thx |
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| 06:52.49 | Fri13 | owner: Installing themes for Gnome is easy just because almoust every theme is packed for its thememanager. For KDE everyone is not, like Everaldos Linspire Crystal clear is one of them (atleast i have not found KDE theme package file). But that is only one what i have found. Then it is easy to drag&drop and themes are ready. |
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| 07:40.07 | Borg^Queen | Hi again. I'm trying to log in as a new user and I get error msg like "Configuration file "//.kde/share/config/kwinre" not writable" |
| 07:40.49 | Borg^Queen | Confiuration file "//.kde/share/config/kdeglobal" not writable, KDE is unable to start |
| 07:41.37 | Borg^Queen | Could not read network connection list |
| 07:41.37 | Borg^Queen | //.DCOPserver_JoshW_O |
| 07:41.54 | Borg^Queen | well like that but different computer |
| 07:42.25 | benjamindees | permissions? disk space? |
| 07:42.41 | Borg^Queen | perms checked out ok and I have 1TB of space |
| 07:42.50 | Borg^Queen | collectively |
| 07:44.04 | benjamindees | the home dir is correct? |
| 07:44.16 | Borg^Queen | yes but I'll check again |
| 07:44.43 | benjamindees | using NFS/NIS? |
| 07:44.49 | Borg^Queen | nope |
| 07:45.10 | benjamindees | the home dir exists right? |
| 07:45.15 | Borg^Queen | hell btw |
| 07:45.18 | Borg^Queen | hello rather lol |
| 07:45.23 | Borg^Queen | aye they do |
| 07:45.40 | benjamindees | yeah, long time no see |
| 07:45.51 | Borg^Queen | how are you? |
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| 07:46.05 | benjamindees | good, good |
| 07:46.16 | benjamindees | you? |
| 07:46.34 | benjamindees | you should be answering these questions instead of asking them :) |
| 07:46.39 | Borg^Queen | other than this good. Just figured out why I was having ftp troubles with the macs |
| 07:46.45 | Borg^Queen | pardon? |
| 07:47.09 | benjamindees | just that I expect to see you answering questions instead of asking them :) |
| 07:47.15 | Borg^Queen | Me? |
| 07:47.35 | Borg^Queen | This is my kryponite |
| 07:47.39 | benjamindees | that's my recollection at least :) |
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| 07:47.48 | Borg^Queen | lol |
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| 07:48.07 | Borg^Queen | ha cute nick stupendo44 |
| 07:48.18 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: what?! |
| 07:48.23 | Borg^Queen | cute nick |
| 07:48.41 | stupendo44 | what do you mean, cute? |
| 07:48.54 | Borg^Queen | nice, funny, creative, |
| 07:49.03 | stupendo44 | there's a story |
| 07:49.09 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 07:49.27 | Borg^Queen | benjamindees: any other ideas? |
| 07:49.33 | Borg^Queen | What's the story |
| 07:49.35 | stupendo44 | Question: I just upgraded to KDE 3.5.1. Do I have to restart KDE in order for me to be running on this new version? |
| 07:49.43 | qupada | stupendo44: yes |
| 07:49.46 | Borg^Queen | yep |
| 07:50.01 | stupendo44 | then isn't it somewhat misleading to say that there's no restarts necessary? |
| 07:50.02 | Borg^Queen | remember to press down on the clutch peddle |
| 07:50.08 | benjamindees | Borg^Queen, stale temp file perhaps? |
| 07:50.12 | Borg^Queen | You mean reboots |
| 07:50.13 | qupada | stupendo44: don't need a restart, just logout |
| 07:50.16 | stupendo44 | because restart KDE closes most of my programs, doesn't it? |
| 07:50.25 | Borg^Queen | benjamindees: deleted everything in /tmp |
| 07:50.37 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: yes |
| 07:50.46 | benjamindees | I swear I've seen something like this before but can't remember what caused it :-/ |
| 07:50.47 | Borg^Queen | kde related apps |
| 07:50.55 | stupendo44 | well, that's kind of annoying... |
| 07:50.57 | Borg^Queen | You must remember now |
| 07:51.16 | Borg^Queen | more annoying than rebooting every 30 mins? |
| 07:51.24 | stupendo44 | now, now, let's be fair |
| 07:51.29 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 07:51.41 | Borg^Queen | There is no fair in M$ |
| 07:51.53 | stupendo44 | I rarely had to reboot my xp system. ubuntu is ever more rare, but it's not like I had to reboot every day |
| 07:52.08 | Borg^Queen | you're lucky |
| 07:52.19 | stupendo44 | you only have to reboot when there's updates mainly |
| 07:52.31 | Borg^Queen | patch Tuesday |
| 07:52.35 | stupendo44 | and you have to remember that microsoft doesn't fix their stuff very often :) |
| 07:52.44 | Borg^Queen | LOL |
| 07:52.59 | Borg^Queen | benjamindees: remember, remember.... |
| 07:53.02 | stupendo44 | makes it convenient :) |
| 07:53.27 | Borg^Queen | most XP users I know have to reboot lot, or the virus does it for them |
| 07:53.35 | stupendo44 | I'm sure that and letting activex apps install automatically is for my own good too... |
| 07:53.45 | benjamindees | Borg^Queen, there are hidden files in /tmp too... |
| 07:53.47 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 07:53.55 | Borg^Queen | benjamindees: check, got em |
| 07:54.06 | stupendo44 | I'm a pc tech, so most of what I fix is xp systems. |
| 07:54.18 | Borg^Queen | Aye, like wise |
| 07:54.27 | Borg^Queen | but I no longer support winders |
| 07:54.27 | stupendo44 | so, the nick story? |
| 07:54.37 | Borg^Queen | Aye, go on laddie |
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| 07:56.54 | stupendo44 | it started about 8 years ago. Around our house we were coming up with nicknames that had the same first letter as our first name. I had Stupendous Stephen. I was at the library one day, and my dad suggested I created a free email account through Hotmail (microsoft... :). I tried stupendo, but it said it was already taken, and offered suggestions. My dad suggested to pick something that was easier to remember, so I picked stupendo44. And |
| 07:57.24 | benjamindees | Borg^Queen, does ~/.kde exist? what if you create it? |
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| 07:57.49 | Borg^Queen | doesn't matter either way, but .kde is there |
| 07:57.49 | ssdo | is there a kde 4? |
| 07:57.58 | Borg^Queen | pardon? |
| 07:58.04 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: good story |
| 07:58.07 | stupendo44 | ssdo: future |
| 07:58.15 | stupendo44 | thanks |
| 07:58.27 | Borg^Queen | ssdo: it hasn't come out yet |
| 07:58.47 | stupendo44 | another question, what's this 'gam_server' taking up more than half my ram? |
| 07:59.03 | Borg^Queen | never heard of it |
| 07:59.09 | ssdo | ok, i read its going to be fast and slick than 3.5...i am on gnome now but i would like to try kde |
| 07:59.16 | stupendo44 | I've seen it only once before, and a logoff got rid of it |
| 07:59.37 | Borg^Queen | ssdo: kde rocks |
| 07:59.38 | stupendo44 | ssdo: you don't need to wait for kde 4... |
| 07:59.44 | stupendo44 | ssdo: but it will be much better |
| 07:59.55 | stupendo44 | I can't stand gnome |
| 08:00.07 | Borg^Queen | lol know |
| 08:00.07 | stupendo44 | restrictive and ugly |
| 08:00.13 | stupendo44 | get some color, guys! |
| 08:00.13 | ssdo | hmmmm... |
| 08:00.48 | ssdo | well am actually running e17 with gnome underneath |
| 08:00.50 | Borg^Queen | man I need to get these users going |
| 08:02.02 | stupendo44 | I can't believe I've never asked this before. What's VmSize mean vs VmRss |
| 08:02.07 | Borg^Queen | I've been googling for hours, I find lots of referrences but no answers |
| 08:02.24 | Borg^Queen | virtual memory |
| 08:02.30 | Borg^Queen | size |
| 08:02.35 | Borg^Queen | thing |
| 08:02.39 | stupendo44 | lol |
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| 08:03.00 | joch | vmsize is the memory required by the program |
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| 08:03.15 | stupendo44 | ok |
| 08:03.17 | Borg^Queen | and what is vmrss |
| 08:03.19 | joch | vmrss is resident set size, meaning memory actually in use |
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| 08:03.23 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: !! |
| 08:03.26 | stupendo44 | ok, that makes sense |
| 08:03.27 | c | that Konqi monster on spreadkde is scaring me away from kde |
| 08:03.41 | Borg^Queen | thanks joch |
| 08:03.48 | joch | no problem |
| 08:03.48 | stupendo44 | so is vmsize somehow reserved or something? wine sure needs a lot |
| 08:03.49 | Borg^Queen | c? |
| 08:03.58 | c | gnome has a nice calm footprint for an icon, not some ravaging mozilla knockoff that looks to pair up with Gamera in a new movie |
| 08:04.00 | joch | stupendo44: indeed |
| 08:04.09 | c | Borg^Queen: http://www.spreadkde.org/misc/konqi-wants-you-300.png |
| 08:04.23 | stupendo44 | gam_server is now taking 320MB out of 512MB |
| 08:04.26 | PhilRod | hiya Borg^Queen :-) |
| 08:04.31 | Borg^Queen | C he's hungry |
| 08:04.36 | c | i also think KDE should drop the DE and jus call itself K |
| 08:04.37 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: hey |
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| 08:04.55 | scx | may someone tell me how to get Kopete connected with gmail ? |
| 08:05.02 | stupendo44 | c: k... |
| 08:05.38 | Borg^Queen | Could not read network connection list |
| 08:05.38 | Borg^Queen | //.DCOPserver_JoshW_O |
| 08:05.41 | Borg^Queen | hey PhilRod ever see this error msg before? |
| 08:05.41 | ssdo | i also dont like the gear logo of KDE |
| 08:05.42 | scx | I once got it but it seems that TLS ids not supported |
| 08:05.42 | stupendo44 | why doesn't 'c' show up in the nicklist...? |
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| 08:05.45 | andred | scx: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google%20Talk%20support |
| 08:05.49 | Borg^Queen | well except the josh part |
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| 08:06.20 | Borg^Queen | and this Configuration file "//.kde/share/config/kwinre" not writable |
| 08:06.35 | Borg^Queen | I'm trying to get a couple of new users to work but I can't log in as either |
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| 08:06.43 | mhall | How do I send to a Kmail distribution list? I declared a list but when I tried to send to it it just sent that address to the SMTP server raw and didn't change it out for the real addresses. |
| 08:07.27 | stupendo44 | gam_server is in the 'gamin' folder. does that sound familiar? |
| 08:07.38 | Borg^Queen | nope |
| 08:07.42 | benjamindees | it's a fam replacement |
| 08:07.50 | Borg^Queen | check to see if you have a package by that name |
| 08:07.55 | Borg^Queen | fam, blah |
| 08:08.07 | benjamindees | fam hates kde |
| 08:08.13 | Borg^Queen | I can tell |
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| 08:08.37 | nana | i've upgraded from kde 3.4.0 to 3.5.0 and now kate has lost the option to disable opening more than one instance (there is no relevant optioin in the dialog and the MultipleInstances option in katerc is ignored). Is this a bug or a feature? |
| 08:08.38 | stupendo44 | I see fam in the repo, but it's not installed |
| 08:08.39 | benjamindees | it's completely unnecessary; I remove fam from all my systems |
| 08:09.00 | stupendo44 | gamin is, says it's a subset of fam |
| 08:09.09 | Borg^Queen | ah |
| 08:09.13 | scx | andred: I have qca-tls installed by default cause I'm on SuSE I may connect some rare times but most time I can't, the same with psi |
| 08:09.14 | Borg^Queen | I don't have fam running |
| 08:09.37 | scx | that's what confuses me :s |
| 08:09.38 | benjamindees | redhat replaced fam with gamin |
| 08:09.38 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: did you see my q? |
| 08:09.39 | stupendo44 | but it looks like it won't let me remove it without removing almost everything that makes this kde |
| 08:09.41 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: is that with a completely new user? Is JoshW the name of the machine or the user? |
| 08:10.05 | Borg^Queen | It was from a webpage, the user is kit the machine is buster |
| 08:10.27 | PhilRod | nana: use "kate -u". It's a feature (since kate now has sessions) but I expect it'll be back in the next version |
| 08:10.32 | benjamindees | stupendo44, I had to recompile kde when I used fedora; in debian I just remove the fam package |
| 08:10.59 | stupendo44 | benJIman: fam isn't installed, gamin is |
| 08:11.09 | Borg^Queen | get rid of it |
| 08:11.09 | stupendo44 | what's it supposed to do anyways? |
| 08:11.10 | benjamindees | stupendo44, same diff |
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| 08:11.24 | Borg^Queen | it monitors changes in your file system |
| 08:11.29 | Borg^Queen | something like that |
| 08:11.31 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: I can't. It won't let me unless I remove like 100 other things. Or if I force it... I suppose. |
| 08:11.32 | scx | qca-1.0-8 installed but can't connect to gmail |
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| 08:11.46 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: ok rename the binary |
| 08:11.46 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: why are you asking about errors from a webpage? I'm confused |
| 08:11.49 | stupendo44 | is there any way to just prevent it from running? |
| 08:12.00 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: I copied it as an example |
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| 08:12.10 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: yes, rename the binary |
| 08:12.22 | Ze_M | what kwin_plastik sets, and what kwin3_plastik sets? |
| 08:12.26 | nana | PhilRod, thanks this works. |
| 08:12.30 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: ok, I'll try that |
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| 08:13.53 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: ok, I renamed it and killed it. You sure that won't cause a problem when it tries to load? |
| 08:14.19 | Borg^Queen | Nope, now you can use ksys to make sure it doesn't try to load |
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| 08:14.39 | stupendo44 | ksys? |
| 08:14.45 | Borg^Queen | try it |
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| 08:15.11 | Borg^Queen | kvsys I think wait let me check |
| 08:15.29 | Borg^Queen | ksysv |
| 08:15.36 | Borg^Queen | halcyonCorsair: ? |
| 08:16.06 | mhall | How do I send to a Kmail distribution list? I declared a list but when I tried to send to it it just sent that address to the SMTP server raw and didn't change it out for the real addresses. |
| 08:16.26 | Borg^Queen | ? |
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| 08:16.39 | Den | Anyone know why in kanotix (debian unstable based, right?) every time I try to enable wifi eth2 networkin, it keeps gettng disabled? Any clues or suggestions? |
| 08:17.21 | stupendo44 | how do I find out what the correct /etc/rc directory is |
| 08:17.30 | stupendo44 | I have a bunch |
| 08:17.54 | satempler | any one know how to diable Kubuntus' auto run I read somthing about ivman fallowed the insructions but it didn't help |
| 08:17.55 | stupendo44 | rc0.d through rc6.d and rcS.d |
| 08:18.11 | satempler | i am using KDE 3.5 if that helps |
| 08:18.14 | Borg^Queen | satempler: autorun? |
| 08:18.26 | Borg^Queen | you mean the automount for cds and stuff? |
| 08:18.30 | satempler | ya the audio cd auto run |
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| 08:18.59 | satempler | all I want to disable KsCD running every time i put a cd in |
| 08:19.43 | satempler | I unceck the Automaticly start when CD is inserted |
| 08:19.44 | satempler | but it still comes back |
| 08:19.49 | satempler | when I close it out I use Quit |
| 08:19.57 | satempler | so its not still running |
| 08:20.03 | Borg^Queen | hmm, in your ~/user dir check in the .kde dir there is a dir called autorun |
| 08:20.13 | Borg^Queen | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.29 | Borg^Queen | there is a desktop in there, remove it |
| 08:20.40 | satempler | ya |
| 08:20.58 | satempler | is that only for audio cds |
| 08:21.23 | Borg^Queen | No it auto mounts removable media like cds |
| 08:21.30 | Borg^Queen | automount is a bad idea |
| 08:21.43 | satempler | ok see I like the automount |
| 08:21.51 | Borg^Queen | oooh hmm |
| 08:21.54 | satempler | but I don't like it with CDs |
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| 08:22.06 | Borg^Queen | check all the settings in kscd |
| 08:22.07 | satempler | and the Autostart is empty |
| 08:22.08 | Borg^Queen | again |
| 08:22.12 | PhilRod | mhall: did you select the list from the address book from the "select" button in the composer window |
| 08:22.15 | Borg^Queen | odd |
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| 08:22.30 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: I don't see gamin in ksysv. I see everything but gamin or gam_server |
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| 08:22.43 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: odd |
| 08:23.01 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: I don't really understand your problem. Could you describe it from the beginning? |
| 08:23.04 | stupendo44 | Borg^Queen: it was never running all the time. It was only running sometime |
| 08:23.06 | satempler | see the problem is I am encodeing my cds and I have 64 of them closing KsCD 64 times is not fun |
| 08:23.21 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: then leave it alone ? |
| 08:23.27 | stupendo44 | I guess |
| 08:23.35 | stupendo44 | we'll see |
| 08:23.50 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: I created a new user but when I try to log in I get errors about dcopserver |
| 08:24.02 | Borg^Queen | stupendo44: it may just run sometimes |
| 08:24.21 | satempler | ok KsCD as Autoplay when cd is inserted but I unchecked that 5 times already |
| 08:24.31 | Borg^Queen | odd |
| 08:24.48 | satempler | I click on ok |
| 08:25.03 | satempler | then I quit from the extras menu |
| 08:25.10 | Borg^Queen | satempler: well you can rename the kscd binary to kscd.old that will keep from running then check it back when you're finished |
| 08:25.18 | satempler | eject the cd |
| 08:25.39 | satempler | hell I wish I could remove it |
| 08:25.49 | Borg^Queen | remove what kscd? |
| 08:25.52 | satempler | every new cd I get gets encoded |
| 08:26.13 | Borg^Queen | then just change the binary to kscd.old |
| 08:26.13 | satempler | now it just came back again |
| 08:26.17 | satempler | ok |
| 08:26.19 | stupendo44 | anybody here play paintball? |
| 08:26.20 | satempler | will do |
| 08:26.20 | PhilRod | satempler: look in ~/.kde/share/config for a mediarc or something. The setting to start kscd is probably saved in there |
| 08:26.37 | satempler | ok PhilRod i will check |
| 08:26.56 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: make sure that /tmp/.ICE-unix exists and is perm 777 |
| 08:27.06 | satempler | kscdrc |
| 08:27.08 | Borg^Queen | it does |
| 08:27.10 | PhilRod | make sure your users can write to /tmp |
| 08:27.14 | PhilRod | and /var/tmp |
| 08:27.14 | mhall | PhilRod: yeah and for some odd reason, 0 entries |
| 08:27.34 | mhall | PhilRod: but i can't figure out how to edit it, it doesn't show up in kaddressbook when you enter it from the kmail menu opt |
| 08:27.57 | PhilRod | mhall: "it" == the distribution list? |
| 08:28.13 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: oh, and what's the exact error message and when does it show up? |
| 08:28.25 | mhall | PhilRod: yeah; it->antecendent()==theList, sorry there, should have been more clear |
| 08:29.15 | mhall | right-clicking the entries in select doesn't work either |
| 08:29.40 | Borg^Queen | Could not read network connection list |
| 08:29.44 | Borg^Queen | //.DCOPserver_JoshW_O |
| 08:29.48 | Borg^Queen | Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running |
| 08:29.52 | Borg^Queen | after i clik okay it pops up a couple more times then i get this message |
| 08:29.56 | Borg^Queen | Will not save Configuration |
| 08:30.00 | Borg^Queen | Configuration file "//.kde/share/config/kwinre" not writable |
| 08:30.02 | mhall | Borg^Queen: pgrep dcopserver |
| 08:30.04 | Borg^Queen | Confiuration file "//.kde/share/config/kdeglobal" not writable |
| 08:30.08 | Borg^Queen | after click okay on that error i get the first error a couple more times then i get this error |
| 08:30.12 | Borg^Queen | No write access to $HOME directory (/) |
| 08:30.16 | Borg^Queen | KDE is unable to start |
| 08:30.16 | Borg^Queen | finally after clicking okay on this error i get both the first and second errors a couple more times then the desktop looks like its gonna start and i get this error |
| 08:30.17 | Borg^Queen | Could not start Ksmserver. Check your install |
| 08:30.17 | Borg^Queen | crap sorry |
| 08:30.27 | stupendo44 | lol |
| 08:30.39 | Borg^Queen | :> |
| 08:30.47 | Borg^Queen | two returns |
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| 08:31.01 | satempler | ya KsCD is useless any ways Kaffeine can play cds and amarok can too |
| 08:31.04 | Borg^Queen | 8361 and 8516 |
| 08:31.06 | msamulinski | siema |
| 08:31.15 | msamulinski | who? |
| 08:31.40 | mhall | PhilRod: i just looked the list up in the .kde dir and it seems plausible |
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| 08:31.54 | BROKEN_LADDER | kde sucks. |
| 08:31.57 | Dhraakellian | amaroK devs don't recommend amaroK for playing audiocds. It's doable, but it's not the best way to do it. |
| 08:32.25 | mhall | PhilRod: 101team=foo@bar.baz,qux@quux.quuux,etc. |
| 08:32.30 | Borg^Queen | BROKEN_LADDER: only with the proper attachment |
| 08:32.54 | BROKEN_LADDER | took me awhile to get that. |
| 08:32.54 | satempler | Dhraakellian: well kaffeine can play them |
| 08:33.04 | Borg^Queen | What's a cd? |
| 08:33.04 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: lol |
| 08:33.24 | mhall | BROKEN_LADDER: ECHAN |
| 08:33.25 | satempler | but it don't matter when I get a new CD it gets ripped any way |
| 08:33.39 | Borg^Queen | me too |
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| 08:34.04 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: $HOME isn't set! |
| 08:34.04 | Dhraakellian | satempler: audiocd:/ in the filebrowser, but yeah, amaroK is meant for playing audio files more than CD's |
| 08:34.14 | BROKEN_LADDER | what is ECHAN? |
| 08:34.14 | Borg^Queen | kuser says it is |
| 08:34.17 | msamulinski | who hack? |
| 08:34.31 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: how you managed that, I don't know :-) |
| 08:34.38 | PhilRod | "No write access to $HOME directory (/)" |
| 08:34.45 | PhilRod | or at least, it's set incorrectly |
| 08:34.47 | msamulinski | cya all |
| 08:34.49 | msamulinski | bye |
| 08:34.51 | Borg^Queen | bye |
| 08:34.58 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: how do I fix it? |
| 08:35.39 | PhilRod | Borg^Queen: use your distro's user management tools to change it |
| 08:36.02 | Borg^Queen | Debian with KDE |
| 08:36.17 | Borg^Queen | I'm still learning deb |
| 08:38.24 | BROKEN_LADDER | can anyone here explain to me why you use kde instead of gnome? i'm very curious.. |
| 08:38.50 | mhall | more sensible interface |
| 08:38.55 | benjamindees | I think the adduser/useradd tools don't necessarily setup all the things in Debian that they do in other distros |
| 08:38.58 | Borg^Queen | BROKEN_LADDER: which is better chocolate ice cream or vanilla? |
| 08:38.59 | mhall | stupid gnome uses two menus by default |
| 08:39.11 | mhall | nicer accessories |
| 08:39.14 | PhilRod | see topic re: kde vs gnome wars |
| 08:39.30 | mhall | programs usually run quicker, ex. konq vs. galeon and nautilus |
| 08:39.43 | BROKEN_LADDER | Borg^Queen depends which types of neurons you have. |
| 08:39.57 | mhall | konq is definitely the fastest i've seen at what it does 'cept explorer.exe on win but explore cheats with preloading |
| 08:40.14 | PhilRod | mhall: konq cheats on preloading too :-) |
| 08:40.22 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 08:40.45 | BROKEN_LADDER | i'm curious about which DE GOS will use. |
| 08:40.55 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: what about ice cream flavour wars? They've not been banned |
| 08:41.00 | PhilRod | BROKEN_LADDER: my condolences |
| 08:41.06 | BROKEN_LADDER | they rock man. |
| 08:41.14 | BROKEN_LADDER | best band in the world, aside from maybe u2. |
| 08:41.28 | PhilRod | BROKEN_LADDER: coulda been worse, you could have *heard* them |
| 08:41.38 | BROKEN_LADDER | i did..it was fantastic. |
| 08:41.45 | mhall | PhilRod: even when you lauch from CLI? |
| 08:41.46 | BROKEN_LADDER | their music is so rich and beautiful. |
| 08:41.51 | Borg^Queen | coldplay is kool |
| 08:42.04 | qupada | i like coldplay's first two albums. the new one really doesn't do it for me though |
| 08:42.04 | BROKEN_LADDER | which is why they are basically the most popular band in the world. |
| 08:42.07 | mhall | PhilRod: btw any ideas on what to hack in the distrib. list conf file? |
| 08:42.10 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh you gotta get into it. |
| 08:42.14 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's sooooo good. |
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| 08:42.37 | BROKEN_LADDER | they're going to go back to more of a stipped down sound in the future, so maybe you'll like that. |
| 08:42.40 | mhall | PhilRod: btw fwiw konq doesn't appear in pgrep konq |
| 08:44.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | i wonder whether GOS will use gnome or kde.. |
| 08:44.42 | BROKEN_LADDER | either way we can praise google. |
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| 08:48.48 | Borg^Queen | PhilRod: thanks fixed it |
| 08:48.58 | Borg^Queen | Thank you people. benjamindees |
| 08:49.05 | PhilRod | !out |
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| 08:49.19 | mhall | crap |
| 08:49.22 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 08:49.29 | mhall | crap crap crap |
| 08:49.34 | Borg^Queen | ok i'm out of here myself, Need to sleep |
| 08:50.11 | benjamindees | Borg^Queen, did you fix it? |
| 08:50.28 | Borg^Queen | yes, I had to set the home dir |
| 08:50.41 | Borg^Queen | I have learned something. My brain is bigger |
| 08:50.45 | benjamindees | oh, okay, easy enough :) |
| 08:51.00 | Borg^Queen | aye lol |
| 08:51.02 | Borg^Queen | thank you |
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| 08:51.22 | Borg^Queen | TTL |
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| 08:51.35 | Fri13 | BROKEN_LADDER: GOS? |
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| 08:51.38 | mhall | crap |
| 08:52.47 | BROKEN_LADDER | google OS |
| 08:52.59 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's to be based on ubuntu. |
| 08:53.32 | mhall | crap |
| 08:53.43 | Fri13 | BROKEN_LADDER: Ok, I think they use Gnome... It has familiar GUI with Gtalk and Picasa. |
| 08:53.44 | mhall | that's too bad |
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| 08:54.19 | mhall | Fri13: yikes is being around you in here going to jinx me? |
| 08:54.48 | Fri13 | mhall: jinx? |
| 08:55.10 | mhall | Fri13: you're friday the 13th |
| 08:55.19 | Fri13 | mhall: Yes :-) |
| 08:55.54 | mhall | Fri13: hence, a jinx ;-) |
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| 08:56.06 | Fri13 | mhall: Okay :-) |
| 08:56.29 | mhall | Main Entry: 2jinx |
| 08:56.29 | mhall | Function: transitive verb |
| 08:56.30 | mhall | : to foredoom to failure or misfortune : bring bad luck to |
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| 08:57.33 | Fri13 | mhall: Im born on Friday 13th and its my lucky day and number ;-) |
| 08:57.47 | mhall | lol now that's hilarious |
| 08:58.00 | mhall | it must be some kind of karmic thing |
| 08:58.13 | mhall | however much bad everybody else experiences is good for you ;-) |
| 08:58.17 | Fri13 | mhall: Last 13th Friday i used 1e to lotto and i won 13 000e ;-) |
| 08:58.34 | mhall | in moral calculus notation it'd be B --> g |
| 08:58.40 | Fri13 | :-D |
| 08:58.44 | mhall | Fri13: lol, 13k euro? that rules! |
| 08:58.52 | Fri13 | yes. |
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| 08:58.56 | mhall | that would be a big dent out of my college costs |
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| 08:59.37 | Fri13 | Mayby :-) No i must go to other class --> Mayby i can draw more KDE GUI:s there ;-) |
| 09:00.07 | mhall | hehe |
| 09:00.16 | mhall | is fri. 13 also bad luck in finland? |
| 09:00.27 | mhall | or is that rumor only here in the usa |
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| 10:09.19 | woodefec | hello |
| 10:09.50 | woodefec | i've seen some info on KDE site about 3.5.1 stable, solving many bugs and giving some improvements, any idea when it will be available for SUSE? |
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| 10:12.01 | qupada | woodefec: they are now |
| 10:12.49 | qupada | unless the ftp site is lying to me |
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| 10:15.24 | qupada | woodefec: remember the distros get the new tarballs a few days to a week before the general public, so there should be builds available as soon as it is officially released |
| 10:17.42 | ankurnayak | Does anyone know how to have emacs like editing in external applications in kde?? |
| 10:18.09 | woodefec | qupada : thx, they are not currently present on mirrors, maybe on the primary server |
| 10:18.33 | ankurnayak | In gnome, there is an option in gnome-keyboard-shortcuts to have emacs-like editing |
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| 10:46.53 | _Brandon_ | hi, i've a problem with kde 3.5.1 in control center->regional->keyboard layout i didn't see any layout available so winbutton and others don't work |
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| 10:48.17 | saeid | hi |
| 10:49.28 | visik7 | is there a way to put a movie as wallpaper |
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| 10:51.13 | Shadowcat | visik7: a playing movie? |
| 10:51.22 | visik7 | yes |
| 10:51.33 | surfy | is this the right place to ask about debugging kded modules ? |
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| 10:54.25 | tax0n | hi everyone |
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| 10:57.53 | StarScream | surfy: try #kde-devel |
| 10:57.59 | StarScream | or #kde-dev |
| 10:58.03 | StarScream | one of those i think |
| 10:58.21 | surfy | StarScream, ok, thanks :) |
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| 11:08.57 | PhilOut | visik7: try putting (say) "mplayer" as the application that draws the background. There's some kind of option for it in the background settings |
| 11:09.09 | PhilOut | "allow an application to run as wallpaper" or something |
| 11:10.07 | visik7 | it refreash every 5 minutes |
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| 11:12.32 | PhilOut | aha, under behaviour, you can set "allow programs in desktop window", then you just need a movie player that will draw in the root window |
| 11:12.57 | PhilOut | and if you get that to work, would you like to write it up for the faq? |
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| 11:17.27 | CsTaNk | hello there. I´m looking for some support in using transparency under kde 3.4 (Suse 9.3). In /etc/X11/xorg.conf I made the needed changes for X-Server and my Nvidia-graphics-adapter. After restarting the X-Server it will only show the startup-screen; no desktop!? Can sombody help me :-) thanks |
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| 11:52.33 | Haukkari_ | Heya... how do I remove the switch user -button from the K-menu of all users? (ie. system-wide) |
| 11:52.49 | Haukkari_ | And how do I remove the possibilities to reboot/shut down computer from K-menu's log off-button? |
| 11:53.17 | Haukkari_ | It must be in some config file but the entry doesn't exist and I can't find it from kde.org... |
| 11:53.30 | benJIman | Haukkari_: what distro rae you using? |
| 11:53.44 | Haukkari_ | benJIman: Debian |
| 11:53.55 | Haukkari_ | benJIman: the confs are in /etc/kde3 |
| 11:54.16 | sam^ | hi |
| 11:54.45 | benJIman | the shutdown option only appears if users have permissions to shutdown iirc, I can't remember how to manually disable it |
| 11:55.21 | Haukkari_ | benJIman: oh, right |
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| 11:55.38 | Haukkari_ | benJIman: would you happen to recall how to limit those permissions system-wide? /etc/security I imagine... |
| 11:55.46 | benJIman | Haukkari_: not on debian |
| 11:55.53 | benJIman | I mean I have no idea on debian |
| 11:56.01 | Haukkari_ | right. Oh well. :) |
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| 11:59.11 | _Brandon_ | can anyone help me? |
| 12:02.52 | benJIman | _Brandon_: that depends if you ever ask a question |
| 12:03.45 | _Brandon_ | benJIman i've asked it one hours ago but none responded :) |
| 12:04.02 | _Brandon_ | anyway the problem is that i didn't see any keyboard layout in the control center |
| 12:04.39 | _Brandon_ | and so the keyboard doesen't work correctly |
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| 12:15.48 | dipnlik | i want to sync my symbian s60 phone with kontact, anyone here does / did that or has any info/tutorial? |
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| 12:19.34 | DaveQB | how does one launch knewsticker from the command line ??? |
| 12:19.53 | PhilOut | is it a kicker applet? |
| 12:19.58 | PhilOut | kappletproxy if so |
| 12:20.09 | PhilOut | maybe it's just called appletproxy, I forget |
| 12:20.19 | PhilOut | if it's not an applet, just type its name |
| 12:20.42 | DaveQB | hmmm command not found |
| 12:20.50 | DaveQB | nah, name doesnt launch it |
| 12:21.01 | PhilOut | is it installed? |
| 12:21.23 | DaveQB | PhilOut: i recall it had a different launch command, but just installed Kubuntu and havent a menu entry for it to see what the command it |
| 12:21.28 | DaveQB | is |
| 12:21.28 | DaveQB | yes |
| 12:21.55 | DaveQB | knewstickerstub TAB completes on the command line, but it doesnt launch with just that command |
| 12:22.01 | DaveQB | i know i spent a day to find this out the hard way |
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| 12:23.14 | PhilOut | it's a kicker applet, so use appletproxy |
| 12:23.46 | PhilOut | or just add it to the panel |
| 12:24.02 | DaveQB | oh, add it ?? but i havent the launch command |
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| 12:27.08 | DaveQB | ok this worked |
| 12:27.08 | DaveQB | appletproxy /usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/knewsticker.desktop |
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| 12:29.05 | Haukkari_ | Anyone know how to remove switch user-button from the K-menu and how to remove the reboot/shutdown computer buttons from K-menu's log off-menu? |
| 12:29.28 | DaveQB | Right click.... edit on the Kicker ?? |
| 12:29.34 | Haukkari_ | umm... system-wide? |
| 12:29.37 | DaveQB | "Menu Edit" |
| 12:29.37 | Lathiat | Haukkari_: you probably want to look at the kiosk related stuff |
| 12:29.46 | DaveQB | ahhhh |
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| 12:30.03 | Haukkari_ | Lathiat: really? Because these are supposed to be workstations but we still don't want users shutting 'em down. |
| 12:30.21 | Lathiat | Haukkari_: sure but the kiosk stuff provides for doing the sort of thing,e ssentially restricted what people can do |
| 12:30.24 | Lathiat | which is what you want to do |
| 12:30.28 | Haukkari_ | Lathiat: yeah |
| 12:30.35 | PhilOut | Haukkari_: can you not do it in control cente r-> sys admin -> login manager? |
| 12:30.41 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: nope |
| 12:31.14 | PhilOut | Haukkari_: you need to find the kdm config file, I guess. Try $KDEDIR/share/config/kdmrc |
| 12:31.15 | BrunoTheDwarf | is anyone familar with kvpnc? - I'm trying to set it up to connect to a windows vpn server, and I'm not have any sucess .. I can get connected the manual way with pptp and pppd - but kvpnc sits at "connecting" and never does anything else |
| 12:31.22 | PhilOut | where KDEDIR=$(kde-config --prefix) |
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| 12:32.14 | Lathiat | BrunoTheDwarf: afaik, kvpnc does not support PPTP |
| 12:32.17 | Lathiat | BrunoTheDwarf: but cisco vpns? |
| 12:32.51 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: yeah, umm, but I don't think KDM handles the log off-button in KDE? |
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| 12:33.36 | PhilOut | Haukkari_: check, I think it might |
| 12:33.41 | xanax` | hi |
| 12:33.46 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: I've restricted what users can do in KDM's config already |
| 12:34.04 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: and in control center, I can make the buttons go away, but I want to do it system-wide. :) |
| 12:34.24 | PhilOut | oh, in that case it's easy |
| 12:34.39 | BrunoTheDwarf | kvpnc says it supports pptp ... is it broken? |
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| 12:35.09 | Lathiat | BrunoTheDwarf: maybe it does, just i only ever saw it handle cisco, and thats what the kubuntu package says, thats not to say your version doesnt |
| 12:35.19 | PhilOut | just find the config file that gets written by the option to remove those buttons in ~/.kde, and move it to the matching path in $KDEDIR |
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| 12:35.33 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: oh |
| 12:35.37 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: that's a great idea. :) |
| 12:35.49 | PhilOut | Haukkari_: hrm, that's not a very clear explanation, I think - take a look in the user guide, section "KDE for admins" |
| 12:35.51 | PhilOut | ~sysadmin |
| 12:35.52 | apt | You can find lots of information useful to sysadmins at http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin and in the User Guide at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/kde-for-administrators.html |
| 12:35.56 | Tarantulafudge | ok, i just installed kde, and when i start kde i get some bogus error about dcopserver... whats up? |
| 12:36.08 | PhilOut | Tarantulafudge: can't help without the exact error message |
| 12:36.08 | Haukkari_ | PhilOut: I got what you meant, I think I can figure it out. =) |
| 12:36.26 | PhilOut | and then you can use kiosk to make sure users can't change it |
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| 12:37.10 | PhilOut | lunchtime, really out |
| 12:37.27 | DeadS0ul | hello |
| 12:37.34 | Tarantulafudge | PhilOut: Theer was an error setting up inter-process communications for kde. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network conection list. /home/stoddardka/.DCOPserver_hpxl768__O Please check that the 'dcopserver' program is running. |
| 12:37.54 | Tarantulafudge | PhilOut: :) |
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| 12:38.53 | Tarantulafudge | PhilOut: you there? |
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| 12:42.27 | GraveDigger | i love amarok! imho the best musik manager available |
| 12:42.30 | GraveDigger | !!! |
| 12:42.33 | GraveDigger | hi there :D |
| 12:42.35 | xanax` | :) |
| 12:42.47 | xanax` | you're not the only one to think so |
| 12:43.09 | GraveDigger | damn ... if i image to manage all my 27Gigs of musik with xmms *scare* :( |
| 12:43.19 | auturge | Hoo boy. KMail has some.. undesirable IMAP behaviours. |
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| 12:45.21 | Tarantulafudge | nooo.. i dont have alot of time lol |
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| 12:49.40 | fangel | auturge: yeah... but we still love it ;) |
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| 12:50.01 | fangel | auturge: which specific behaviours are you talking about? |
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| 12:50.22 | auturge | I've just started using a new IMAP server that supports a "shared" namespace, under ~ |
| 12:50.38 | auturge | KMail's showing me all my folders twice, once under <root> and once under ~ |
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| 12:53.17 | auturge | This would be only trivially annoying if not for the fact that this makes it double-count all my new messages. |
| 12:59.53 | Fri13- | How i can disable konqueror from using device:// when i click device icon? Because device:// dont allow me to do same actions like file://. |
| 13:00.08 | Tarantulafudge | plz help?? |
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| 13:09.06 | ananth126 | Tarantulafudge: ps -A | grep dcopserver |
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| 13:14.37 | PhilRod | auturge: did you try twiddling the namespaces in settings->configure kmail -> accounts -> accountname? |
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| 13:15.09 | Celestar | can I use kaffeine to watch my DVB streams? |
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| 13:15.59 | mattepiu | hum, anyone here feels like KDE is missing some useful app/frontend?? |
| 13:16.00 | auturge | Yes.. I can work around (not fix) it by eliminating the shared namespace. |
| 13:16.26 | Celestar | seems so ... |
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| 13:17.06 | stjepan | what do you think of my desktop: http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4932/shot1sf.png |
| 13:17.06 | mattepiu | I'm searching ideas for a new little app/frontend programming, so if you feel something is missing please tell me.... |
| 13:17.12 | auturge | Well. I can tell you one of the main things that keeps me from walking away from Windows altogether - Microsoft Money. |
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| 13:17.27 | auturge | I'd love to see a good personal finance app. |
| 13:17.33 | auturge | And "Gnucash" is an incorrect answer. |
| 13:17.37 | PhilRod | kmymoney? |
| 13:17.45 | Celestar | whf is gnucash? |
| 13:17.48 | auturge | Yeah, kinda vaguely meant to look at it. |
| 13:17.55 | auturge | But the site made it seem pretty basic. |
| 13:18.53 | auturge | The number of things that piss me off about KDE is actually astonishingly low, for an inveterate Linux-hater such as myself. |
| 13:19.05 | mattepiu | auturge: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10180 basic? |
| 13:19.56 | auturge | OK, OK, OK. I'll look at it. Sometime. |
| 13:20.06 | mattepiu | I'm telling about frontends: what utility force you to open konsole too often? |
| 13:20.43 | auturge | Aha. |
| 13:20.47 | auturge | I'm not your guy then. |
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| 13:21.14 | mattepiu | sorry, I'm too inexperienced for full/Ms-equivalent apps |
| 13:21.16 | auturge | Is there any KDE interface to WHOIS? |
| 13:21.35 | mattepiu | knetscan |
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| 13:21.59 | mattepiu | knetscan is gui for whois ping traceroute and nmap |
| 13:22.06 | auturge | Right. |
| 13:22.23 | Celestar | mattepiu: what was your question (joined late) |
| 13:22.33 | DeadS0ul | kooka needs work =( |
| 13:22.40 | mattepiu | which app force you to open konsole too often? |
| 13:22.41 | Cae2 | there is some way to stay static the border between mail subjects and the message itsel in kmail? (strange to explain) |
| 13:22.59 | mattepiu | Celestar: which app force you to open konsole too often? |
| 13:23.10 | Celestar | mattepiu: I don't understand your question |
| 13:23.41 | auturge | He's looking for suggestions for a simple programming project. |
| 13:23.53 | mattepiu | Celestar: I want to program some useful little gui for console utility, I have to decide which console utility. |
| 13:24.05 | Celestar | ah |
| 13:24.16 | Celestar | sorry just busy coding myself :) |
| 13:24.28 | mattepiu | Celerstar: actually I have done AviUtils (equivalent for Gspot) |
| 13:24.54 | Celestar | i wish there was a tool for network relocation |
| 13:25.13 | mattepiu | Celestar: and kfirewatcher (tail of firewalls log viewer for use with whois and similar) |
| 13:25.19 | Celestar | something like kwifimanager, but properly working |
| 13:25.26 | auturge | Hrm, that's an interesting question. Is there a KDE video editor? I've never looked. |
| 13:26.06 | mattepiu | auturge: avidemux works fine in kde |
| 13:26.17 | mattepiu | auturge: even if is gtk |
| 13:26.46 | auturge | Never. |
| 13:26.57 | auturge | I have this violent, irrational hatred of mixing toolkits. |
| 13:27.45 | mattepiu | auturge: you kidding me? use gtk-QT-engine to have same look |
| 13:28.11 | GraveDigger | lol |
| 13:28.20 | GraveDigger | gtk apps still suck |
| 13:28.26 | Celestar | auturge: what do you use instead of gimp? |
| 13:28.43 | auturge | I don't do much image editing. |
| 13:28.47 | auturge | OK, I don't do *any* image editing. |
| 13:29.04 | Celestar | ok |
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| 13:29.12 | mattepiu | gtk has just a worst open/save dialog, that's it. anything else is fine |
| 13:29.25 | GraveDigger | what i really hate is the "style" of those gtk apps, the file open/save dialoges |
| 13:29.31 | GraveDigger | they really annoy me |
| 13:30.19 | mattepiu | well, that's true, open/save is bad, but I can't live without inkscape, gimp or avidemux |
| 13:30.47 | auturge | I have no rational defense, I just hate non-native applications. |
| 13:30.59 | auturge | Even Carbon apps on OS X give me the heebiejeebies. |
| 13:31.00 | Celestar | mattepiu: I agree with the saveload dialogue |
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| 13:31.23 | GraveDigger | i use azureus and amule - both use gtk2 |
| 13:31.35 | GraveDigger | but i still think that the file dialouges suck |
| 13:31.36 | GraveDigger | -.- |
| 13:31.39 | auturge | If it's really vital I edit an image, I've got Windows Photoshop hanging around. |
| 13:31.52 | GraveDigger | auturge: ever tried Krita? |
| 13:32.00 | anabain | how can I get the cd-rom icon in my desktop in order to right-click onto it and mount it? |
| 13:32.05 | mattepiu | omg..... wine? wine is not esolution |
| 13:32.59 | mattepiu | anabain: rightclick on desktop, configure desktop, saech for desktop icon tab, select "show unmounted cdroms" |
| 13:33.29 | mattepiu | every time I update wine some new app stops working, opengl apps are unusable now |
| 13:34.08 | mattepiu | using gtk is much better than using wine (even if photoshop has features unmanaged by gimp) |
| 13:34.19 | auturge | I didn't say Wine. |
| 13:34.33 | auturge | Remember: I loathe non-native apps. I run Windows software in Windows! |
| 13:34.43 | mattepiu | lol |
| 13:34.59 | Celestar | I run some little MsOffice in Xover Office |
| 13:35.04 | mattepiu | having windows to avoid gtk under kde....... |
| 13:35.14 | Celestar | ^^ |
| 13:35.59 | mattepiu | nobody of you has a nifty console tool that he would like to have a gui? really? |
| 13:36.23 | Celestar | well, ... ifconfig .. in a way |
| 13:36.27 | Celestar | or rather iwconfig |
| 13:36.33 | auturge | I don't have Windows to avoid anything. I have Windows because I have Windows. |
| 13:38.45 | mattepiu | I don't have wireless lan, just plain one :-O I'll do my best for ifconfig then..... |
| 13:39.04 | Celestar | well, that I have |
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| 13:40.04 | Celestar | I just want seemless WLAN handover |
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| 13:41.25 | mattepiu | sorry, but not having a wlan I would blind-programming (and that's bad, means lots of bugs) |
| 13:42.18 | anabain | thank you very much mattepiu !! |
| 13:42.36 | mattepiu | anabain: np, you welcome |
| 13:42.51 | qupada | Celestar: don't we all. there isn't any reason it couldn't happen provided you're going between ap's on the same network |
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| 13:43.25 | mattepiu | anabain: however, with kde3.5 and hal support you should have a menu every time you insert a cd/dvd |
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| 13:44.13 | anabain | I have 3.4 mixed with something of 3.5 because of k3b, and don't know what's hal support, mattepiu |
| 13:44.24 | dipnlik | i want to sync my symbian s60 phone with kontact, anyone here does/did that or has any info/tutorial? |
| 13:44.28 | anabain | (I have debian sid) |
| 13:44.50 | mattepiu | did you know Wireless Assistant (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832) ? |
| 13:44.56 | mattepiu | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832 |
| 13:45.38 | doktoreas | guys, where can i set the speed of backspace in kde? |
| 13:45.47 | doktoreas | keeping it pressed goes very slow |
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| 13:45.55 | Celestar | qupada: I mean I pack the computer at home (WLAN #1) and unpack the computer at work (WLAN #2). I want it to connect to number 2 without my fiddling with settings |
| 13:45.59 | PhilRod | control center -> periph -> keyboard |
| 13:46.21 | PhilRod | doktoreas: ^^^^ |
| 13:46.22 | auturge | Hm. |
| 13:46.27 | auturge | Konversation 0.19. Tab bar LEDs gone. |
| 13:46.30 | qupada | Celestar: oh, i thought you meant like roaming between access points while moving and not having to re-establish connections and all that |
| 13:46.36 | mattepiu | anabain: hal is a nice way to handle devices, a system program that notify the insertion of CD/DVD. with kde-3.5 when a disc is inserted you will have a menu (customizable for kind of disc inserted: I have k3b in the menu for empty discs) |
| 13:46.39 | qupada | Celestar: ie like a cellphone network handles it |
| 13:46.52 | DeadS0ul | auturge: I think you can turn'em on XD |
| 13:47.10 | auturge | This is better, actually. The whole channel name changing colour. More noticeable. |
| 13:47.28 | DeadS0ul | I'm still on 0.18 =( |
| 13:47.30 | doktoreas | no keyboard under periph |
| 13:47.58 | PhilRod | install the full kdebase or ask in #gentoo-kde then |
| 13:48.05 | mattepiu | doktoreas: you sure? did you doubleclicked periphals? |
| 13:48.52 | doktoreas | mattepiu: got display,storage device,ecc... |
| 13:49.30 | mattepiu | then you're missing some kdebase part, check what PhilRod said |
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| 13:50.15 | Celestar | qupada: that's be the next step :P |
| 13:51.03 | qupada | Celestar: exactly. soft handoff between access points without dropping connections. freedom to roam, if you will |
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| 13:51.42 | Orgo | Hi, I've lost my mouse wheel after upgrading to KDE 3.5, what can I do about it? |
| 13:52.22 | Celestar | yeah |
| 13:52.24 | ExitMenu | hello, has any one else had a problem where with kde 3.4.1 if you set your kbd to Ms Wireless internet kbd 1.0A if you press vol+ or vol- kmix crashed, and if so does anyone know a fix pls |
| 13:53.27 | ExitMenu | (sorry forgot to say that is on suse 10) |
| 13:54.18 | qupada | ExitMenu: i use hotkeys rather than kde to handle keyboard buttons, never had a problem with it |
| 13:54.39 | ExitMenu | k I will look it up |
| 13:54.59 | mattepiu | Orgo: you upgraded just KDE-3.5 or also X (xorg)? |
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| 13:55.00 | qupada | http://ypwong.org/hotkeys/ |
| 13:55.09 | ExitMenu | ta |
| 13:55.13 | qupada | ExitMenu: although i assume suse will have a package |
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| 13:56.09 | yamir | hi |
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| 13:56.31 | Orgo | mattepiu: No, xorg is still 6.8.2. Will the mouse wheel work again if I upgrade to 6.9? |
| 13:56.45 | mattepiu | Orgo: if you upgraded xorg too (to modular version: 7.0+) was the auto protocl |
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| 13:57.00 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 13:57.08 | JohnFlux | How do I type a unicode character please? |
| 13:57.13 | JohnFlux | say 0x0167 |
| 13:57.19 | yamir | I am trying to get transparent network sound to work with arts on kde 3.4.3(client) and kde 3.5.0(server). All the documents I found are for kde 2.x and the described methods simply dont work. |
| 13:57.31 | StevenR | Orgo: is the right line still present in your xorg.conf file? does it work in another WM? |
| 13:57.32 | yamir | Any hints on how to get this going or where to find up to date docs? |
| 13:57.48 | PhilRod | JohnFlux: hope it's in kcharselect, or remap one of your keys to it with xmodmap? |
| 13:58.10 | Orgo | stevenr: Yes, I still have Option "ZAxisMapping" in xorg.conf, and the mouse wheel works fine when using fluxbox instead of kde. |
| 13:58.14 | mattepiu | Orgo: not, but generally speaking is xorg that cares about mouse wheel, if you were using an evdev script in the Autostart directory copy it from .kde-3.4 to .kde-3.5 |
| 13:58.20 | JohnFlux | PhilRod: in windows you can do it with alt+gr then 0167 on the num keypad |
| 13:58.47 | mattepiu | Orgo: just check your .kde-3.4/Autostart directory, is empty? |
| 13:58.51 | Orgo | xev reports absolutely no events at all when scrolling the wheel in kde, but it still works when not running kde. |
| 13:59.26 | mattepiu | Orgo please check /home/Orgo/.kde-3.4/Autostart directory |
| 13:59.37 | PhilRod | Orgo: try with a newly created user |
| 13:59.53 | PhilRod | JohnFlux: yeah, I've never heard of a similar thing in X/KDE/linux |
| 13:59.58 | Orgo | Ok, minute... |
| 14:00.05 | mattepiu | Orgo: or do cp ~/kde-3.4/Autostart/* ~/kde/Autostart/ |
| 14:00.39 | mattepiu | Orgo: ops, cp ~/.kde/Autostart/* ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| 14:00.47 | mattepiu | auch |
| 14:00.51 | PhilRod | hehe |
| 14:00.55 | GraveDigger | :) |
| 14:01.04 | mattepiu | Orgo: cp ~/.kde-3.4/Autostart/* ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| 14:01.07 | mattepiu | amen |
| 14:01.17 | GraveDigger | wow - this track is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 14:01.18 | GraveDigger | np: DJ Magic Mike - World's Deepest Bass (extreme woofer test) |
| 14:01.19 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
| 14:01.19 | mattepiu | damn dots |
| 14:01.34 | GraveDigger | available at http://home.pages.at/gravy/a.zip |
| 14:03.17 | Orgo | Hmm, Autostart indeed seems to have something to do with it. One more minute, and I'll try with my ordinary user. |
| 14:04.58 | mattepiu | Orgo: 90% was evdev script or xmodmap..... when you upgrade it just don't copy to new folder |
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| 14:16.13 | Orgo | Hmm, the mouse wheel works when using xinit to start X, but not when using kdm. |
| 14:16.50 | GraveDigger | oO |
| 14:17.35 | GraveDigger | i NEVER had a any problems with the mousewheel since xfree-3.3.6 |
| 14:17.54 | GraveDigger | but a lot of different mice on a lot of different computers |
| 14:17.56 | GraveDigger | -.- |
| 14:18.21 | DexterF | ok, which file in kde holds the actual command to fire up X? |
| 14:18.29 | GraveDigger | btw: /me LOVES evdev input drivers for linux!!!!!!! |
| 14:18.29 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 14:18.37 | benJIman | DexterF: the xsessions file in your kdm config prefix |
| 14:19.08 | benJIman | xservers even |
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| 14:21.55 | Orgo | GraveDigger. I have never had any problems with mouse wheel until I upgraded KDE to 3.5 |
| 14:22.04 | GraveDigger | lol |
| 14:22.44 | Orgo | I don't have any exotic hardware. Plain out of the box Dell with standard usb mouse. |
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| 14:24.32 | Crowbar | Is it just me or are there no extensions actually available for konqueror? I've been trying to find at least a few which have the functionality of firefox's extensions, but i can't find any at all. |
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| 14:27.05 | EvilGuru | how do I enable 'smart' code completion in kdevelop for c code |
| 14:27.23 | ananth126 | orgo: check if you xorg config has z-axis under the mouse. google for scroll mouse and x will give you the exact config option |
| 14:29.32 | Orgo | ananth126: xorg is correctly configured, it has always worked the way it is configured, and it works now too as long as I don't log in using kdm |
| 14:30.06 | Fri13- | How i get that KPDF sidepanel style to konqueror sidepanel? |
| 14:32.49 | DexterF_ | what took the function of <kdeprefix>/share/config/kdm/Xservers? |
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| 14:37.34 | PhilRod | Crowbar: kdeaddons |
| 14:38.25 | JohnFlux | PhilRod: okay i've got something sort of working |
| 14:38.44 | JohnFlux | when i type alt+167 it now types the 'letter' "Hello world" |
| 14:39.04 | PhilRod | JohnFlux: how did you do it? by writing code? |
| 14:39.24 | JohnFlux | yeah but at the moment everything is mapped to hello world ;) |
| 14:41.51 | EvilGuru | in kdevelop how can I change the tab size? |
| 14:42.00 | EvilGuru | i normally in most editors have it at 4 |
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| 14:49.50 | PhilRod | oh, today's dilbert.com is *so* sweet |
| 14:51.05 | StevenR | PhilRod: I should use that one |
| 14:51.56 | GraveDigger | how do i find out, what the name of a certain window class is? |
| 14:52.01 | GraveDigger | i'd like to configure imwheel |
| 14:52.05 | PhilRod | xprop |
| 14:52.11 | PhilRod | see the klipper docs |
| 14:52.29 | PhilRod | bah, b.k.o has gone all slow again |
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| 14:52.55 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: nice, now me shell is spammed ... |
| 14:53.39 | PhilRod | GraveDigger: GIYF (grep is ...) |
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| 14:53.49 | PhilRod | GraveDigger: anyway, look in the klipper docs like I said |
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| 15:00.45 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: dunno what you mean ... klipper docs look fine, klipper is great tho |
| 15:01.00 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: but i dont know what this has to do with window classes |
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| 15:01.51 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: oh, sorry |
| 15:01.56 | GraveDigger | just found it -.- |
| 15:02.02 | GraveDigger | xprop | grep WM_CLASs <-- |
| 15:03.31 | PhilRod | :-) |
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| 15:04.45 | GraveDigger | alright |
| 15:04.49 | GraveDigger | now it works! :D |
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| 15:05.14 | GraveDigger | i use imwheel for mouse nav buttons - great thing to change irssi's windows to the left and right wih it |
| 15:05.27 | GraveDigger | but i needed to identify konsoles window class |
| 15:05.28 | GraveDigger | -.- |
| 15:05.41 | GraveDigger | didnt guess that it was simply "konsole" |
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| 15:10.03 | wolffc | hi |
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| 15:10.30 | wolffc | can anyone tell me, how to deaktivate those access-keys in konqueror alltogether? |
| 15:10.34 | Phazeman | hi. i'm trying to optimize my system running kde 3.5.1 and was looking for a proper way to stop some of the kde services running on KDE's startup, that my system doesn't use anyway. can someone pease point me to the conf file that decides what to start and what to not ? or some kind of document that explains it ? thanks in advance |
| 15:11.01 | PhilRod | kde components -> service manager |
| 15:11.13 | PhilRod | there are some performance tips on the wiki (wiki.kde.org) too |
| 15:11.26 | Phazeman | PhilRod: thanks much ! |
| 15:11.42 | Phazeman | but i'm on ssh right now and don't ahve any X access. is there any conf file i can see in ? |
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| 15:16.01 | Crowbar | Ok, i installed the kdeoaddons package iin kubuntu and i still do not have any extensions for konqueror except the search bar. If there some other package or website i can go to which will install extensions that compete with firefox's? |
| 15:16.32 | Tm_T | Crowbar: apt-cache search kio | grep konq |
| 15:16.50 | Tm_T | for example |
| 15:17.13 | Crowbar | Tm_T: all it returned was konqueror. |
| 15:17.51 | PhilRod | Crowbar: they appear in, um, I think it's the tools menu |
| 15:18.10 | Tm_T | hum |
| 15:18.38 | Crowbar | PhilRod: nothing there. if i go to Settings-> Configure Extensions the only extension listed is Search Bar Plugin. |
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| 15:18.53 | DaBlade | Hello. |
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| 15:18.57 | DaBlade | I'm just wondering about something |
| 15:19.06 | DaBlade | In KDE e.V., what does the e.V. stand for? |
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| 15:20.48 | xanax` | DaBlade : maybe it's just like GNU : GNU is Not Unix |
| 15:21.00 | xanax` | e.V may not have any meaning |
| 15:21.09 | DaBlade | xanax`: then what does the V stand for? :P |
| 15:21.13 | xanax` | nothing |
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| 15:21.21 | xanax` | http://ev.kde.org/ |
| 15:21.30 | DaBlade | I've seen the site |
| 15:21.36 | DaBlade | But it doesn't say what e.V. stands for |
| 15:21.55 | xanax` | :) that's what I say. maybe nothing. |
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| 15:22.16 | DaBlade | That would be lame for a corporationg. |
| 15:22.18 | DaBlade | *corporation |
| 15:22.40 | xanax` | the K of KDE doesn't mean anything neither |
| 15:22.41 | PhilRod | it's a german term for a charitable organisation |
| 15:22.47 | PhilRod | or something like that |
| 15:22.55 | DaBlade | PhilRod: Ah, thanks. |
| 15:23.38 | PhilRod | like "Foocom PLC" or whatever |
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| 15:23.56 | PhilRod | the second word is "Verein". I can't remember what the e stands for |
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| 15:25.01 | PhilRod | eingetragener Verein |
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| 15:25.20 | DaBlade | Ok, thanks for the help, PhilRod. I was wondering about that for a while. |
| 15:25.51 | PhilRod | don't ask me what that translates as though |
| 15:26.32 | GraveDigger | could it be, that the RX and TX Byte counters are reset to zero at a certain amount of bytes counted? i wonder why ifconfig tells me that i have only 1GBB RX bytes tho my computer was not shutdown this night... and i had 3GB RX Bytes yesterday evening |
| 15:27.20 | PhilRod | probably overflowed |
| 15:27.54 | PhilRod | work out what the max number of GB a 32 bit number can hold is |
| 15:28.23 | auturge | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.29 | auturge | It indicates the legal type of organisation. |
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| 15:28.37 | DaBlade | auturge: I looked it up |
| 15:28.41 | DaBlade | 'registered association' |
| 15:28.49 | DaBlade | Translated from german |
| 15:28.57 | DaBlade | Which philrod gave me. |
| 15:29.08 | auturge | Yeah yeah, like I pay attention. *cough* |
| 15:29.42 | GraveDigger | PhilRod: k, this is a 32bit system, an the 32bit maxint is known - so the question is: are these counters really limited to the int range? |
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| 15:29.57 | PhilRod | GraveDigger: I have no idea - have fun grepping kernel sources :-) |
| 15:30.04 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 15:30.06 | GraveDigger | k |
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| 15:34.27 | frb-work | GraveDigger: what other limit would they have? |
| 15:34.58 | TeaSea | long? double? |
| 15:37.11 | frb-work | not a double |
| 15:37.15 | GraveDigger | frb-work: no, but ... dunno ... maybe some more |
| 15:37.18 | frb-work | floats are to inaccurate for counters |
| 15:37.26 | frb-work | s/to/too/ |
| 15:37.36 | frb-work | that's a scary bot |
| 15:37.44 | GraveDigger | LOL |
| 15:37.46 | PhilRod | heh, store the number of bits sent as a floating point number. I like it :-) |
| 15:38.18 | GraveDigger | maybe still a 64bit integer? i have even worked with them with 16bit DOS based pascal |
| 15:38.21 | GraveDigger | -.- |
| 15:38.34 | GraveDigger | (okay, not natively....) |
| 15:39.26 | peterbrett | If anyone implements a counter using a float or double, they deserve to be shot. |
| 15:39.28 | peterbrett | To start with. |
| 15:40.34 | benJIman | does apt always s/ the last line or your last line? |
| 15:40.55 | GraveDigger | this is a foo bar text |
| 15:40.59 | GraveDigger | s/foo/f00 |
| 15:41.06 | GraveDigger | s/foo/f00/ |
| 15:41.11 | GraveDigger | k |
| 15:41.15 | GraveDigger | it does |
| 15:42.11 | benJIman | test |
| 15:42.16 | benJIman | s/foo/test |
| 15:42.21 | benJIman | s/foo/test/ |
| 15:42.29 | benJIman | ok my last line probably |
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| 15:42.36 | peterbrett | That's two of you done the same mistake in a row |
| 15:42.37 | GraveDigger | http://dau-alarm.de/pictures/hardware/dotm-045d_k.jpg |
| 15:42.41 | GraveDigger | :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((( |
| 15:42.41 | peterbrett | s/done/made/ |
| 15:43.21 | benJIman | s/\(/test/ |
| 15:43.29 | benJIman | hmm only your own lines it would seem |
| 15:43.47 | jz | anyone know where I can download the free disk space kicker app on kde-apps.org the link on the site doesn't work? |
| 15:44.07 | peterbrett | jz: isn't it part of core? |
| 15:45.28 | jz | theres an application kdiskfree, but I see no kicker app |
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| 15:46.38 | mikearthur | how can I make k3b use LAME --ape? |
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| 15:49.09 | StevenR | aseigo: ping |
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| 15:51.26 | Kenjiro | afternoon |
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| 15:57.25 | benJIman | some/thing test |
| 15:57.47 | benJIman | s/me\/th/meth/ |
| 15:57.54 | benJIman | s/me\\/th/meth/ |
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| 16:00.18 | GraveDigger | hmmmm |
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| 16:00.44 | GraveDigger | so apt parses regex ... maybe hack this bot and gain root access due to exessive regex spamming? |
| 16:00.47 | GraveDigger | *g* |
| 16:01.10 | luksan | benJIman meant: something test |
| 16:01.15 | luksan | ;-) |
| 16:01.21 | frb-work | except the bot doesn't have root access |
| 16:01.33 | GraveDigger | *g* |
| 16:01.40 | benJIman | I was just wondering if it had escaping |
| 16:02.27 | frb-work | the bot can never escape! muahahahaha |
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| 16:05.58 | grave^uni | l8ers |
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| 16:07.02 | luksan | frb-work: muahahahaha? |
| 16:08.48 | frb-work | PhilRod: what more do you need? |
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| 16:11.14 | StevenR | PhilRod: emacs probably does it :P |
| 16:12.38 | DeadS0ul | damn it takes forever to draw web comics |
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| 16:13.57 | PhilRod | frb-work: perhaps the possibility to get it to answer questions without being prompted. |
| 16:14.11 | frb-work | PhilRod: that would be really annoying |
| 16:14.28 | PhilRod | also, it would be nice to have one that no other channel is using, so we don't get collisions (eg, try "~faq") |
| 16:14.44 | PhilRod | frb-work: probably, but we can't even try with apt, so we don't know :-) |
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| 16:17.00 | PhilRod | frb-work: a nice search function would be good too - we always forget the keywords to get apt to talk |
| 16:17.00 | luksan | what is the difference between postscript and PDF? |
| 16:17.01 | PhilRod | luksan: GIYF |
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| 16:17.06 | frb-work | luksan: PDF is compressed, password protected, and is more widely supported |
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| 16:17.56 | frb-work | luksan: for more info, use wikipedia |
| 16:17.58 | luksan | frb-work: how come when i use KOffice to print to postscript i don't have any font-kerning issues, but with PDF I do (and PDF is what I need ;( ) |
| 16:18.08 | PhilRod | frb-work: maybe a function to search the faq. That would be good |
| 16:18.34 | frb-work | PhilRod: so you want a new bot, even though you have no clear goals as to why |
| 16:18.43 | frb-work | PhilRod: in that case, I would say make your own bot |
| 16:19.36 | PhilRod | I've been hoping someone here has the knowledge of bots + hosting to do it, but evidently not |
| 16:19.43 | PhilRod | not a big deal, it would just be kinda cool |
| 16:19.59 | luksan | konqueror is definatley the best browser |
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| 16:20.06 | luksan | all except the whole rendering thing |
| 16:20.31 | luksan | where else can i type in wp:PDF and immediately pull up the wikipedia article? |
| 16:21.08 | luksan | not Firefox. maybe it's a feature of the Emacs browser |
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| 16:38.26 | Edward_The_Great | hi |
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| 16:39.16 | Edward_The_Great | somebody know a konqueror's plugin to navigate with mouse buttons? |
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| 16:42.50 | frb-work | KDE has that built in for all apps |
| 16:43.04 | Edward_The_Great | :o |
| 16:43.15 | Edward_The_Great | in what place i can configure it ? |
| 16:43.18 | frb-work | you can use khotkeys to set up gestures for anything you want |
| 16:43.24 | Edward_The_Great | a |
| 16:43.26 | Edward_The_Great | okey |
| 16:43.29 | Edward_The_Great | thanks :D |
| 16:43.57 | Edward_The_Great | but |
| 16:44.01 | Edward_The_Great | only for keyboard? |
| 16:44.13 | frb-work | Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 16:44.27 | Edward_The_Great | let see |
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| 16:44.54 | frb-work | you can set it so if you press the left mouse button, and make an N with the mouse, you go to the next page or something |
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| 16:45.25 | parapente | hi |
| 16:47.00 | parapente | when I have konqueror open browsing any folder and try to unmount the cdrom I get an error message saying that the device is being used |
| 16:47.24 | parapente | as soon as I close koqueror and try umount again, it does it |
| 16:47.36 | frb-work | use konqueror to eject? |
| 16:48.00 | parapente | no I don't use konqueror to eject the cdrom |
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| 16:48.20 | parapente | I usually use the applet that shows the removable devices or a terminal |
| 16:48.46 | parapente | let me try what you said frb-work |
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| 16:49.58 | parapente | hmmm that doesn't work either frb-work |
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| 16:50.44 | frb-work | no idea then, I haven't had any problems, but then KDE doesn't seem to see my 2 DVD drives completely properly anyway |
| 16:51.13 | parapente | it's really inconvenient to have to close every instance of konqueror that browses files just to umount a cd :-S |
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| 16:52.21 | EvilGuru | what does ctags do and why does kdevelop need it? |
| 16:52.38 | annma | it's for completion I think |
| 16:53.11 | parapente | even when I mount the cd from terminal and try to unmount it immediately, I get this error |
| 16:53.54 | annma | Ctags generates an index (or tag) file of language objects found in source files that allows these items to be quickly and easily located by a text editor or other utility. A tag signifies a language object for which an index entry is available (or, alternatively, the index entry created for that object). |
| 16:53.59 | annma | EvilGuru: ^^ |
| 16:54.20 | EvilGuru | would seem to be for auto-completion then |
| 16:54.27 | annma | yes |
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| 16:54.42 | TheSimkin | parapente: use umount -l |
| 16:54.43 | TheSimkin | parapente: it's a "lazy" unmount. works well for me. |
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| 16:55.02 | parapente | really? |
| 16:55.05 | parapente | let me try it |
| 16:55.16 | metaperl | I want to set my file associations for Konqueror so that it plays RealAudio with realplay.. I want to view the "Democracy Rising" link on this page: http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Bush_Admin&ShowVidNum=15&Rot_Cat_CD=BA&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=365&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30 |
| 16:55.50 | TheSimkin | metaperl: if you get the win32codes you should be able to play real audio with any standard player (fyi). |
| 16:55.57 | TheSimkin | metaperl: i know nothing about real player itself. |
| 16:56.13 | parapente | TheSimkin, ok umount doesn't give an error message now but the cd can't be changed either :-) |
| 16:56.19 | metaperl | oh it was playing the video in totem, but I could hear no sound |
| 16:56.26 | TheSimkin | parapente: check mount ? |
| 16:56.28 | TheSimkin | see if it still mounted? |
| 16:56.49 | TheSimkin | parapente: maybe ther is a delay? i've used this before (admittedly, only on samba and cifs shares, not on cd's). |
| 16:57.00 | parapente | yes it isn't mounted |
| 16:57.08 | TheSimkin | and it still won't eject? |
| 16:57.15 | parapente | no :-/ |
| 16:57.19 | TheSimkin | in konqueror go to media:/ |
| 16:57.25 | TheSimkin | and see if you can eject from there? |
| 16:57.31 | EvilGuru | whell if it does do code completion it is doing an awful job -- as code completion in kdevelop is a pain up the backside, it just for some reason does not like me |
| 16:57.49 | parapente | as soon as I closed konqueror it worked |
| 16:58.03 | TheSimkin | parapente: :( |
| 16:58.11 | parapente | man I really like konqueror and this is the only thing bothering me now |
| 16:58.34 | TheSimkin | parapente: i really wish in linux you could disable the locking of read only media when it's mounted. |
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| 16:58.50 | TheSimkin | parapente: i know *WHY* they do it, i just think it's a lot harder on the people using it than it really should be. |
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| 17:00.38 | Edward_The_Great | frb-work: thanks but i can't do it |
| 17:00.39 | Edward_The_Great | :/ |
| 17:01.40 | Edward_The_Great | my idea its this: while i have the right button pressed, and press the left button, konqueror -> back |
| 17:01.48 | TheSimkin | parapente: maybe you can? |
| 17:01.52 | Edward_The_Great | like opera |
| 17:01.54 | TheSimkin | nomand |
| 17:01.55 | TheSimkin | Do not allow mandatory locks on this filesystem. |
| 17:02.02 | TheSimkin | i dunno what mandatory locks are though |
| 17:02.07 | parapente | xmmmm |
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| 17:03.38 | TheSimkin | actually no |
| 17:03.42 | TheSimkin | it doesn't look like that's it |
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| 17:04.54 | Edward_The_Great | frb-work: hello? |
| 17:05.03 | frb-work | Edward_The_Great: I thought you could already do that |
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| 17:05.18 | Edward_The_Great | aps |
| 17:07.01 | frb-work | dunno, I really dislike gestures anyway |
| 17:07.17 | Edward_The_Great | :P |
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| 17:12.58 | maro_ | are there any kopete alternatives? |
| 17:13.14 | maro_ | something that works more like the rest of kde :) |
| 17:13.15 | visik7 | gaim |
| 17:13.17 | StevenR | maro_: depends exactly what you want....kde-apps.org has a few chat clients |
| 17:13.45 | maro_ | StevenR: I'll take (another) look :) |
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| 17:14.50 | maro_ | I need jabber, ICQ and MSN would be very nice |
| 17:15.02 | TeaSea | I like psi. |
| 17:15.12 | TeaSea | It's a jabber client, but jabber by itself has links to other networks. |
| 17:15.41 | maro_ | yeah, but I'd like to avoid transports :/ |
| 17:15.47 | Fri13 | I just chosen good time to reconnect here :-), was just asking that how kopete will work on KDE4? Like now file sending is not so easy and to see who is online, user need open kopete main window. Once there was plugin what added kopete window to konqueror sidepanel (like amarok is now). That was handy but where is that now? |
| 17:16.48 | frb-work | kde4 is agest away |
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| 17:17.28 | maro_ | hmm, licq looks promising, many years since I tried that :) |
| 17:17.35 | Fri13 | Yes, thats why it is good time to throw ideas. |
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| 17:17.58 | PhilRod | Fri13: get involved! I'm sure there are ways to help - you can find some kopete developers in #kopete |
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| 17:18.08 | annma | Fri13: yes, throw your ideas via bug reports -> wishes |
| 17:18.14 | Fri13 | PhilRod, thx |
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| 17:18.41 | annma | prefeably join a design mockup if it's GUI |
| 17:18.50 | Fri13 | annma, mayby it is good idea to add some mockups somehwhere too? |
| 17:18.58 | annma | :) |
| 17:18.59 | annma | yes |
| 17:18.59 | Fri13 | ;-) |
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| 17:20.04 | Fri13 | Im just so "happy" that ad-hoc filesharing idea. yesterday i started think that how about for them who has ICQ/MSN/other? |
| 17:20.27 | Fri13 | And right now i cant send files via ICQ, only trought MSN and it does not work always. :-( |
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| 17:24.29 | Kenjiro | talking of 'send files'... |
| 17:24.51 | Kenjiro | kopete could really have support for file transfer over ICQ protocol, huh |
| 17:25.02 | Kenjiro | is that file transfer bug (MSN protocol) solved? |
| 17:25.22 | arrinmurr | is there a way to start a program from the command so that it won't have borders? so i wouldn't have to take advanced -> no border every time. |
| 17:25.27 | Kenjiro | the one where you receive a file... and when the transfer is finished the file is emptied? |
| 17:25.52 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, save that window settings. |
| 17:26.35 | Fri13 | Kenjiro, i dont know about that, but i have it dont start transferring file (with other kopete users it will) or it brakes it middle. |
| 17:26.50 | arrinmurr | Fri13: and that means that the window is somehow recognized by name and the border is taken away or something? |
| 17:27.14 | Kenjiro | Fri13: that happens to me everytime a MSN user sends me a file |
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| 17:27.34 | Kenjiro | the transfer goes ok, when it reaches 100% the file is emptied (but it is still there on the HD) |
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| 17:27.50 | kucrut | guys, where can i change the middle button function for konq? |
| 17:28.02 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, it can be reconized as application and with name. I need to use +name if i want like OpenOffice main window is different size than OpenOffice start window (where i select what i like to do). |
| 17:28.44 | Fri13 | Kenjiro, mayby i dont know that because i have so far transferred only 2 pictures and anything else dont come trought :-P |
| 17:29.32 | Kenjiro | Fri13: ahahahaha possibly |
| 17:29.33 | Kenjiro | ;) |
| 17:30.26 | arrinmurr | Fri13: ok. but there's no way to put the settings for example in an application launcher? |
| 17:31.16 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, i dont know about that. |
| 17:31.39 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, what application you are trying to get so? |
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| 17:32.32 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, for those windows where i want special settings i just save it and if possible, i save it so it check application name. |
| 17:33.13 | arrinmurr | Fri13: aterm. and only in a special occasion |
| 17:33.43 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, i have dont for konsole so that it s without windeco |
| 17:33.51 | Fri13 | so it opens |
| 17:34.03 | Fri13 | god... wtf i just told :-P |
| 17:34.20 | Fri13 | i have settings for konsole so it will start without windeco ;) |
| 17:34.33 | arrinmurr | ok :) |
| 17:34.48 | Fri13 | is that normal aterm launcher? |
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| 17:35.11 | Fri13 | like if it has alway same window name, it is easy to do with that special window settings. |
| 17:35.12 | arrinmurr | i'm just creating a launcher that does something like "aterm -e ssh username@host", and in that special occasion it should start up without borders |
| 17:35.46 | Fri13 | and then aterm dont have any special window name? |
| 17:36.38 | arrinmurr | well, it seems to be "ssh" ;) |
| 17:36.53 | arrinmurr | maybe i can change it with a command line option, i'll have to see |
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| 17:37.02 | _robert | hello all |
| 17:37.07 | Fri13 | hi |
| 17:37.21 | _robert | is there anybody know something about kde 4.0 ? |
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| 17:37.41 | Fri13 | _robert, only that what has come out so far via dot.kde.org ;-) |
| 17:38.17 | Fri13 | _robert, and some ideas for new GUI from postlist. |
| 17:38.34 | _robert | and i cant install it ? |
| 17:38.38 | _robert | now :D ? |
| 17:38.55 | Fri13 | _robert, nope.... it will come out mayby after next fall |
| 17:39.09 | _robert | lol |
| 17:39.12 | Fri13 | so i think there is not anything right now :-p |
| 17:39.16 | arrinmurr | ah yes, i can change the window title with -title. i guess i just have to do it that way then. it would have been nicer if i could have change it straight in the launcher though :/ |
| 17:39.38 | Fri13 | arrinmurr, atleast you can do it with title ;-) |
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| 17:40.45 | _robert | next fall? so long? |
| 17:40.50 | Fri13 | yes |
| 17:41.43 | Fri13 | but it will be greatest KDE ever! (i hope so ;P) |
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| 17:42.00 | Fri13 | mayby even greatest desktop ever :-P |
| 17:42.23 | _robert | i hope so |
| 17:43.01 | _robert | and it will be quick? |
| 17:43.10 | _robert | *fast not quick sorry |
| 17:44.32 | Fri13 | _robert, i dont know what is "fast" for you. But KDE 3.5 is faster than Windows XP on my PC and on other PC (P3 500Mhz/256RAM) KDE 3.5 is fast enough to daily use. |
| 17:45.29 | _robert | my PC is athlon xp 2500 512 mb ddr |
| 17:45.37 | _robert | and i have kde 3.5 |
| 17:46.19 | _robert | and yes its fast , but it can be faster :D |
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| 17:46.41 | Fri13 | My own desktop PC is 2800+ 1Gb and KDE 3.5 is really fast. Only thing what takes time to load is OpenOffice but it takes only 7 seconds in cold start. |
| 17:47.08 | _robert | and what distro do you have? |
| 17:47.25 | Fri13 | OpenSUSE 10.0 |
| 17:48.49 | Fri13 | I used Mandriva 2006 long time but it was much slower than SUSE. I dont know why... |
| 17:49.14 | _robert | i have lxnay this is gentoo system |
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| 17:51.47 | arrinmurr | Fri13: well, i got it to work now the way i want. thank you :) |
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| 18:09.17 | illogic-al | hola peeps |
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| 18:18.52 | domy | Ciao a tutti |
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| 18:20.18 | lepetitfou | j #gentoo-de |
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| 18:23.25 | Kenjiro | ok, kde 3.5.1 installed and running |
| 18:23.32 | Kenjiro | let's see how good it behaves ;) |
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| 18:31.31 | illogic-al | Kenjiro: so what do you think so far? |
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| 18:32.09 | Kenjiro | hasn't crashed yet :) |
| 18:32.39 | Kenjiro | I heard there was a security bug related to java... was it fixed? |
| 18:32.39 | fredE | is it possible to get the "multicolumn view" in konqueror to not truncate directory and file names? |
| 18:33.42 | illogic-al | Kenjiro: if it was reported before release of the 3.5.1 i would expect so. |
| 18:34.38 | illogic-al | fredE: mine doesn't truncate the file names. |
| 18:35.06 | illogic-al | which is actually pretty annoying if you have long file names. |
| 18:35.26 | illogic-al | anyway to answer you';re question, yeah it's possible :-) |
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| 18:36.17 | fredE | mine's truncated at around 13 characters.. do you know how to do it? |
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| 18:38.24 | fredE | ohh i see, icon text width |
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| 18:42.59 | xpato | hi |
| 18:43.09 | illogic-al | hey |
| 18:43.26 | xpato | are anyway i can jump betewn the editor and the console in kate without using the mouse? |
| 18:43.48 | illogic-al | xpato: yes sir. Alt+Tab |
| 18:44.18 | xpato | illogic-al, i meant the console that is embenbed in kate |
| 18:45.16 | frb-work | illogic-al: F8 maybe? |
| 18:45.23 | frb-work | err, xpato even |
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| 18:46.22 | xpato | nop |
| 18:46.33 | illogic-al | xpato: none that i can see. |
| 18:46.55 | xpato | bad |
| 18:47.03 | Kenjiro | really bad |
| 18:47.05 | illogic-al | to switch without the mouse looks like you'll have to have them opened separately. |
| 18:47.06 | xpato | i guest i can submit a patch |
| 18:47.19 | illogic-al | xpato: please. that would be really appreciated. |
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| 18:47.42 | jz | is there any way of restarting my panels without closing everything and restarting kde, cause they are no longer responding |
| 18:48.09 | illogic-al | jz: sure, run kdcop, go to kicker and restart it from there. |
| 18:48.11 | frb-work | jz: dcop kicker default restart ? |
| 18:48.14 | Kenjiro | jz: you mean the buttons on kicker? |
| 18:48.26 | frb-work | what's hte point of the console in kate anyway? |
| 18:49.01 | Kenjiro | frb-work: you can work on the code of something... and issue commands (or compile that code) on the said console |
| 18:49.09 | illogic-al | yup |
| 18:49.12 | Kenjiro | konsole in this case ;) |
| 18:49.16 | Kenjiro | very useful |
| 18:49.23 | frb-work | I want to be able to run a command in the konsole and have it appear in the editor though |
| 18:49.35 | frb-work | otherwise, why not just have a separate konsole window? |
| 18:50.15 | Kenjiro | well... taste is taste, huh |
| 18:50.31 | illogic-al | so you want to be able to edit text in konsole, and have it appear in kate? |
| 18:51.36 | Kenjiro | illogic-al: I think he wants something like 'ls -al /usr/lib' and the output is spit to the kate window, so he can edit the text |
| 18:51.54 | jz | thanks guys that worked, except now my azureus system tray icon is in its own seperate window |
| 18:52.00 | Kenjiro | well, that's the way I understood it |
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| 18:53.59 | illogic-al | jz: azureus's fault :-) |
| 18:55.19 | kucrut | can i modify the middle click function in konq as FM ? |
| 18:56.33 | illogic-al | what? |
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| 18:57.20 | frb-work | I mean like running "find . -name \*.asp -print0 | xargs -0 fgrep "classid" and then opening all the matches in kate editors |
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| 18:58.00 | frb-work | I know, you can do that with the find dialog, but the find command is so much more powerful when in the hands of a shell master |
| 18:58.01 | sredna | frb-work: I was away, could you repeat your problem? |
| 18:58.06 | frb-work | sredna: lamenting the functionality of the embedded konsole in applications |
| 18:58.15 | sredna | Ok |
| 18:58.23 | Kenjiro | lol |
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| 18:59.22 | frb-work | sredna: hoping I was wrong in that there is no integration between the konsole and the application itself |
| 18:59.40 | sredna | Well, with kde 3.5.1 kate exports KATE_PID to the environment, so that you can alias kate like 'kate -u -p $KATE_PID' when that is set, and thereby just do 'kate <filename>' in your kate builtin terminal to open files in that instance |
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| 19:00.02 | sredna | Just a tip ;) |
| 19:00.07 | frb-work | what about konq? |
| 19:00.21 | sredna | Konqueror could do the same |
| 19:00.30 | sredna | But afaik it does not |
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| 19:00.55 | illogic-al | sredna: that's awesome |
| 19:01.01 | illogic-al | sredna: nice tip for a wiki :-) |
| 19:01.47 | sredna | illogic-al: http://www.alweb.dk/blog/anders/kate_named_sessions |
| 19:02.05 | frb-work | lunchy |
| 19:02.43 | sredna | Hm, that actually does not tell that |
| 19:02.48 | sredna | But it's in the README file |
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| 19:05.57 | sredna | Wow, my scanner just works -- all I have to do is to unplug my cd writer :\ |
| 19:06.17 | illogic-al | lol |
| 19:07.07 | sredna | For some reason its allways been a PITA, its a scsi umax se 6e |
| 19:07.50 | sredna | I had to get a specific scsi card, which required a conterter on the cable, and it can't work with anything else on the scsi card... |
| 19:08.41 | sredna | It makes good scans though |
| 19:09.10 | illogic-al | uh. Umax. |
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| 19:09.22 | illogic-al | Had problems w/ mdk and a Umax scanner once. |
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| 19:09.33 | illogic-al | threw it away casue it wouldn't work. |
| 19:09.55 | mike-m | hy, is it possible for kmail to have the icon in the systray? (i didn't figured it out in the settings>configure kmail) |
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| 19:10.24 | sero | mike-m: Yes it is possible |
| 19:10.35 | illogic-al | awesome |
| 19:10.44 | illogic-al | kontact crashes right after it starts up. |
| 19:10.52 | Kenjiro | illogic-al: ahahaha |
| 19:11.03 | illogic-al | mike-m: i'd tell you, if only i could get kontact to start.... |
| 19:11.18 | illogic-al | Kenjiro: Fie on you. |
| 19:11.57 | Kenjiro | ok, time to go |
| 19:12.06 | Kenjiro | see ya |
| 19:12.56 | sredna | Hm, speaking of kmail, am I the only one who experienced that it only shows one attachment? |
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| 19:13.19 | deever | hi |
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| 19:13.35 | illogic-al | hey deever |
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| 19:13.58 | deever | is there any hope that these view profiles will work in kde4? |
| 19:14.02 | deever | ;) |
| 19:14.22 | illogic-al | deever: what do you mean by not work? |
| 19:14.49 | sredna | Which view profiles? |
| 19:15.28 | deever | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118629 |
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| 19:16.26 | illogic-al | deever: what is the command you use to do this? |
| 19:17.03 | deever | 'konqueror --profile webbrowsing', for example |
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| 19:17.25 | illogic-al | deever: shouldn't that be kfmclient? |
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| 19:17.53 | deever | this doesn't work neither... |
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| 19:19.25 | illogic-al | deever: what version of KDE are you using? |
| 19:19.29 | JollyRoger | how can i change the K menu icon |
| 19:19.33 | illogic-al | i have 3.5 and they work |
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| 19:20.25 | PhilRod | JollyRoger: see faq |
| 19:20.29 | PhilRod | ~kmenu |
| 19:20.31 | apt | kmenu is probably at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213 |
| 19:20.33 | deever | oh, it seems i shouldn't wait any longer to switch to 3.5! i still have 3.4.3! :) |
| 19:20.39 | illogic-al | deever: do 'konqueror --profiles' and look for the correct name of your profile. |
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| 19:21.00 | deever | illogic-al: ? |
| 19:21.11 | illogic-al | nm |
| 19:21.14 | deever | i know how the profiles are called! ;) |
| 19:21.21 | illogic-al | you're bug has been killed |
| 19:21.31 | illogic-al | upgrade please. |
| 19:21.36 | deever | ok |
| 19:21.39 | JollyRoger | thanks |
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| 19:21.59 | illogic-al | heh. i like the easy ones. |
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| 19:23.43 | illogic-al | PhilRod: how goes it old man? :-) |
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| 19:28.28 | kucrut | illogic-al: got any idea? |
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| 19:29.25 | kucrut | i want to bind button 2 to do "Up" in konqueror |
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| 19:32.32 | illogic-al | kucrut: maybe khotkeys. |
| 19:32.56 | kucrut | illogic-al: couldnt find it there |
| 19:33.15 | illogic-al | that's the only idea I've got |
| 19:33.24 | kucrut | ah ;) |
| 19:35.27 | sredna | grmbl kde sucks |
| 19:35.38 | sredna | If I kill it, kded goes nuts next time I start it |
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| 19:36.06 | sredna | And it lacks decent memory management, so sometimes I have to kill it |
| 19:37.19 | illogic-al | sredna: it's OK, there's always gnome :-) |
| 19:37.29 | sredna | Auch :O |
| 19:37.36 | illogic-al | lol |
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| 19:37.55 | sredna | Rofl... gnome... where was i? |
| 19:38.28 | aseigo | sredna: i doubt it's kded itself but one of the 18 million plugins people have written for it |
| 19:38.54 | sredna | And btw, kooka beats the scanning interface I saw on a winxp pc today and dropped because the scanner put white lines all over the images |
| 19:39.27 | sredna | aseigo: Ack. I have 4 kded services related to svn |
| 19:39.43 | sredna | Two from kdesdk and two from kdesvn I think |
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| 19:40.56 | illogic-al | aaaaaaaaaaaaah! it's annma ! |
| 19:41.43 | illogic-al | aseigo: no, no. you misunderstand. That is the scream of delight. |
| 19:41.45 | annma | hi! |
| 19:41.47 | annma | what's up illogic-al ? |
| 19:41.57 | annma | lol |
| 19:42.00 | illogic-al | the all caps scream is the one indicating unadulterated fear |
| 19:42.05 | annma | hi Tm_T |
| 19:42.16 | annma | hi aseigo |
| 19:42.17 | Tm_T | uh, h-hi annma |
| 19:42.28 | illogic-al | annma: nm. trying to go over some notes for class actually. |
| 19:42.28 | aseigo | annma: hey =) |
| 19:42.45 | illogic-al | aseigo: keeps bugging me }:-) |
| 19:42.54 | aseigo | =P |
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| 19:44.28 | aseigo | you know you love me |
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| 19:44.52 | annma | we all do, aseigo |
| 19:44.58 | lostson | welcome to the love connection |
| 19:45.25 | illogic-al | aseigo: after those pics in the red thong, i don't think anyone could resist you. |
| 19:45.26 | lilalinux | is there a way to speed up konqueror on pages with lots of images? |
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| 19:45.34 | annma | illogic-al: lol |
| 19:45.38 | lilalinux | i.e. doesn't konqueror support keep-alive? |
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| 19:53.03 | aseigo | illogic-al: heh.. to be fair, i wasn't IN the thong.. i was simply holding it against myself modelling it ;) |
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| 19:55.59 | Smak | So I just updated to KDE 3.5 Really don't see anydifference from 3.4 |
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| 19:56.47 | aseigo | Smak: depends one what you use and what you don't, really |
| 19:56.50 | illogic-al | aseigo: but that doesn't sound scandalous enough :-p |
| 19:56.54 | aseigo | illogic-al: indeed |
| 19:57.05 | aseigo | Smak: did you read the 3.5 release announcement and feature guide? |
| 19:57.14 | aseigo | Smak: it details some of the changes |
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| 19:57.47 | PhilRod | Smak: http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-3.5.php |
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| 19:58.07 | PhilRod | kmail got imap filtering for 3.5. Yay! |
| 19:58.12 | visik7 | I got this error after kdm login |
| 19:58.16 | visik7 | kdm_greet[7373]: Internal error: memory corruption detectedù |
| 19:58.19 | PhilRod | (that was a notable feature for me) |
| 19:58.22 | visik7 | in syslog |
| 19:58.24 | illogic-al | PhilRod: which crashes wonderfully when used. |
| 19:58.35 | visik7 | running memtest no memory error |
| 19:58.42 | visik7 | what's wrong ? |
| 19:58.53 | illogic-al | gotta upgrade to .1 to see if it's fixed before reporting |
| 19:58.59 | PhilRod | illogic-al: works nicely here for sorting all the nonsense I get emailed by various uni people |
| 19:59.10 | sredna | visik7: You forgot to do the dishes before you attempted to log on? |
| 19:59.13 | sredna | :o |
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| 19:59.29 | visik7 | sredna: dishes ? |
| 19:59.37 | illogic-al | lol |
| 19:59.38 | sredna | Sorry for joking |
| 20:00.20 | Smak | Wheres my SuperKaramba |
| 20:00.29 | sredna | Now we just need one sharable imap folder for all the mailing list mails |
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| 20:02.37 | visik7 | have anyone got some issue with shareing folder with 3.5.1 ? |
| 20:03.12 | sredna | The only form of sharing I do is kpf, and that works as well as ever |
| 20:04.42 | annma | visik7: what distro do you use? |
| 20:05.30 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.34 | sredna | :o |
| 20:06.29 | Smak | sredna: can you explain kpf? What I read says its a file sharing toold that allows filesharing from a directory. Can't that be done just setting a directory world accessiable |
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| 20:07.12 | dionoea | hello |
| 20:07.20 | sredna | Smak: Kpf == K Personal Fileserver. It's a kicker applet that allows you to share a directory over http on a port that you define |
| 20:07.29 | dionoea | i wanted to make sure that KDE icons were GPL. can anyone confirm ? |
| 20:07.53 | annma | dionoea: YES |
| 20:08.06 | dionoea | thanks :) |
| 20:08.44 | scode | h/w 8 |
| 20:08.47 | annma | you have to mention the author though |
| 20:09.40 | dionoea | annma: yeah, like any GPL stuff :) |
| 20:09.45 | sredna | Smak: I use kpf for showing things here quite often, http://83.73.148.136:8002/ |
| 20:11.29 | sredna | Whoever looked at it, I'm actually using the -- still unfinished -- Kursed cursor theme as my system default |
| 20:11.32 | visik7 | sredna: kubuntu |
| 20:11.36 | visik7 | sredna: why ? |
| 20:11.40 | sredna | I'll release it sometime when I get to it |
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| 20:12.13 | sredna | visik7: Annma asked |
| 20:12.25 | visik7 | sredna: ops |
| 20:12.27 | annma | me? no, no! You, sredna !!! |
| 20:12.28 | eidolon | so. is there -any- documentation whatsoever for Katapult? I keep having it pop up, and it looks interesting, but there seems to be -zero- information about it on the net. |
| 20:12.34 | visik7 | annma: kde 3.5.1 |
| 20:12.47 | visik7 | ehm sorry |
| 20:12.51 | annma | visik7: I suggest you ask in #kubuntu and maybe try a new user |
| 20:12.53 | visik7 | annma: kubuntu with |
| 20:12.56 | sredna | [21:04:42] <annma> visik7: What distro do you use? |
| 20:13.01 | annma | ;-) |
| 20:13.06 | tvo | eidolon: you're pretty much right, there isn't much (if anything at all) |
| 20:13.06 | annma | I was joking, sredna |
| 20:13.13 | eidolon | tvo: that5's what i'm finding. |
| 20:13.14 | sredna | Uh, I'm not the only one :o |
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| 20:13.20 | visik7 | btw the problem of the sharing ? |
| 20:13.27 | annma | visik7: define sharing |
| 20:13.34 | visik7 | I put the password but panel isn't eneabled |
| 20:13.46 | visik7 | annma: when I want to share a directory |
| 20:13.56 | visik7 | annma: in proprieties it ask e for root password |
| 20:14.06 | annma | visik7: what directory? |
| 20:14.09 | visik7 | I put it in here but the panel stay gray and unmodificable |
| 20:14.17 | visik7 | annma: anydirectory I want to share |
| 20:14.31 | annma | you mean your home dirs as well for example? |
| 20:14.45 | visik7 | mmm no home dir is defined in another way |
| 20:14.45 | sillyboyme | how come no kde 3.5.1 for suse |
| 20:14.50 | visik7 | I mean /tmp for example |
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| 20:15.25 | annma | Share, OK |
| 20:15.51 | annma | visik7: try a new user first |
| 20:15.57 | visik7 | new user for kdm ? |
| 20:16.00 | annma | your upgrade seems quite messed |
| 20:16.03 | visik7 | new user for the kdm problem ? |
| 20:16.07 | annma | for you to log in |
| 20:17.12 | annma | for sharing and the new user also will use kdm |
| 20:17.12 | visik7 | ok |
| 20:17.12 | annma | see if you have the same problems |
| 20:17.13 | annma | if yes, then reinstall |
| 20:17.13 | visik7 | ... |
| 20:17.13 | visik7 | what a wonderfull solution ... |
| 20:18.32 | annma | well we're not responsible for distro mess |
| 20:18.51 | annma | the problems you describe don't occur from kde source |
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| 20:18.58 | annma | i can share my folders |
| 20:19.25 | annma | i don't use kdm but i am sure it has no such error, we could not have released it if so |
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| 20:22.10 | sredna | Hm, kooka fails to clear the memory |
| 20:22.30 | sredna | After scanning a few images it uses all my memory, and makes kswapd go nuts |
| 20:22.47 | sredna | Shame on you kooka |
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| 20:23.01 | frb-work | how harsh |
| 20:23.38 | sredna | frb-work: Killing it, ot its insane misbehavior? |
| 20:23.50 | frb-work | killing a poor defenseless program like that |
| 20:24.01 | frb-work | Won't Someone Think of The Children!?! |
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| 20:24.57 | lostson | hmm thats odd |
| 20:25.39 | sredna | ? |
| 20:25.46 | sredna | Which that? |
| 20:25.49 | lookatthis | these absolutely have to go today. 2 alienware area51-m 5700 laptops $550 each includes shipping, case, wireless router and 1 alienware area51 7500 desktop $700 includes monitor, keyboard, mouse,. speakers. message me if you wnat to buy any of these items at mcsltd@telusmail.net, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at mcsltd2 thanks and have a good day. |
| 20:26.01 | PhilRod | stupid spam bots |
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| 20:32.04 | lgsobalvarro | hello annma |
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| 20:32.15 | lgsobalvarro | aseigo: how are you? |
| 20:32.27 | aseigo | lgsobalvarro: alright... and you? |
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| 20:32.50 | lgsobalvarro | im fine tnx aseigo :D |
| 20:32.51 | annma | hi lgsobalvarro |
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| 20:33.19 | Smak | So I installed KDE 3.5, but SuperKaramba is no where to be found |
| 20:33.48 | lostson | what distro ? |
| 20:33.53 | Smak | gentoo |
| 20:34.00 | aseigo | it's in kdeutils IIRC |
| 20:34.03 | lostson | ah |
| 20:34.03 | annma | maybe you forgot to get it |
| 20:34.06 | lgsobalvarro | Smak: you must install kdeutils |
| 20:34.11 | lostson | yeah make sure to install it |
| 20:34.31 | annma | Smak: don't you have a way to find things in Gentoo? |
| 20:34.36 | Smak | kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.0 |
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| 20:34.52 | lostson | open a terminal and type "type superkaramba" to see if you have it |
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| 20:36.07 | Smak | I thought there would be a control center link |
| 20:36.42 | lostson | why would that be ? |
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| 20:37.45 | lostson | wow the menu for kde in Fedora is weird need to change it around |
| 20:38.26 | piggz | anyone know how to disable the 'lost & found' menu entry? |
| 20:39.44 | visik7 | what this error means: |
| 20:39.47 | visik7 | kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! |
| 20:39.52 | lgsobalvarro | piggz: kmenu => settings => Menu editor |
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| 20:40.09 | fir3st0rm | hi |
| 20:40.39 | fir3st0rm | how can i shutdown the computer from terminal not being su/root? |
| 20:41.12 | PhilRod | sudo, but that's really a question for #yourdistro |
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| 20:41.55 | fir3st0rm | how does kde manage to shutdown the pc? |
| 20:42.14 | PhilRod | by talking to kdm which runs as root |
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| 20:42.31 | sredna | fir3st0rm: KDM is run as root |
| 20:42.38 | fir3st0rm | isn't it possible to talk to kde from terminal? |
| 20:42.38 | sredna | Ah |
| 20:42.50 | sredna | fir3st0rm: Dcop |
| 20:43.02 | PhilRod | or via the kdm fifos - seehte kde handbook |
| 20:43.09 | fir3st0rm | tnx i'll try that |
| 20:43.12 | PhilRod | s/seehte/see the/ |
| 20:43.28 | annma | visik7: KSycoca error with new user? |
| 20:43.37 | visik7 | yes |
| 20:43.53 | annma | run |
| 20:44.07 | visik7 | http://pastebin.com/534312 |
| 20:44.13 | Typosu | how can I disable the "double GET" that konqueror does when opening a link from kmail, kopete or konversation? I notice when clicking on a "email validation" link in an email, when the page finally opens, it says I already validated (I assume it GETs the page once while the progress dialog is up)... |
| 20:44.16 | visik7 | here the full error |
| 20:44.31 | visik7 | annma: run ... ? |
| 20:44.38 | annma | visik7: run kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 20:44.43 | annma | for the new user |
| 20:44.47 | annma | then retry |
| 20:45.36 | sredna | Typosu: That would be a bug, related to KIO |
| 20:45.48 | Smak | So I installed the liquid weather module, and nothing happened. Then I stalled the portageXview module, and it works fine. But I have no option to uninstall the liquidweather module and try again |
| 20:45.49 | sredna | Not really konwueror |
| 20:45.52 | sredna | Q |
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| 20:46.04 | Typosu | sredna: doh.. has anyone attempted to fix it? |
| 20:46.09 | visik7 | annma: ok no error but no result |
| 20:46.29 | sredna | Typosu: I think I saw a related discussion on one of the developer mailing lists recently |
| 20:46.38 | Typosu | coo |
| 20:46.49 | visik7 | annma: even running kcmshell fileshare from root the app stay in gray |
| 20:46.57 | annma | you are root? |
| 20:47.09 | annma | new user should not be root |
| 20:47.22 | annma | ask in #kubuntu then, it's distro mess |
| 20:47.43 | sredna | I think KIO sends a request in order to get the headers, to determine the mimetype of the returned data. Maybe another request is sent on behalf of the application selected to open the URL |
| 20:47.56 | sredna | But I'm really not much into KIO internals |
| 20:47.59 | visik7 | annma: I'm not root |
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| 20:48.16 | annma | visik7: so if a new user is also busted, well..... |
| 20:48.17 | visik7 | annma: I've export DISPLAY:0.0 and xohost + on user owning X |
| 20:48.40 | annma | visik7: ask in #kbuntu really |
| 20:48.51 | annma | i cannot do anything for you |
| 20:48.52 | visik7 | nobody answer me |
| 20:50.00 | visik7 | maybe I should downgrade to 3.5.0 |
| 20:50.22 | lgsobalvarro | visik7: 3.5.1 ;-) |
| 20:50.57 | sredna | 9 photos left to scan... |
| 20:54.02 | visik7 | lgsobalvarro: 3.5.1 give me more problems than 3.5.0 |
| 20:54.11 | visik7 | lgsobalvarro: (a part from kopete) |
| 20:54.40 | lgsobalvarro | thats ilogical visik7 |
| 20:54.50 | visik7 | lgsobalvarro: dunno what to sa |
| 20:56.01 | visik7 | the foldershare kontrolCenter module in witch part of kde is? |
| 20:56.10 | visik7 | kdelibs... |
| 20:56.12 | visik7 | o |
| 20:56.15 | visik7 | no |
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| 20:57.05 | lgsobalvarro | kdenetwork visik7 |
| 20:57.06 | annma | kdebase |
| 20:57.15 | annma | oh, maybe kdenetwork |
| 20:57.15 | lgsobalvarro | kdebase? ehmm |
| 20:57.30 | annma | lgsobalvarro: there are 2 different things, Share and Sharing |
| 20:57.37 | lgsobalvarro | im not sure visik7 |
| 20:57.42 | lgsobalvarro | yep annma :D |
| 20:57.46 | annma | kdebase for the one he is looking at |
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| 21:01.14 | fietz | hi |
| 21:01.31 | fietz | what is that popular commander like file/ftp manager named? |
| 21:01.36 | fietz | k...? |
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| 21:02.44 | frb-work | fietz: you're on #kde so I'll say konqueror? |
| 21:03.27 | fietz | no, it is a kde-one but not konqueror. it's 3rd party and has a commander-like view, with two "tabs" |
| 21:03.41 | fietz | so, it uses qt, kdelibs, ... |
| 21:03.52 | arrinmurr | is there some simple network monitor for kde? |
| 21:04.03 | lgsobalvarro | arrinmurr: knemo |
| 21:04.24 | fietz | or - can i somehow transparently use ftp in a quick and easy way? (need to keep two directories in sync) |
| 21:04.55 | lgsobalvarro | fietz: konqueror its nice for that |
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| 21:06.16 | arrinmurr | lgsobalvarro: thank you |
| 21:06.25 | frb-work | you can split kde windows, or use tabs |
| 21:06.45 | Typosu | I have to agree, I've made a profile that loads my ftp site on one side, and its local folder on the other.. |
| 21:07.13 | Typosu | and with the konqueror kicker menu applet, its only a couple clicks away :D |
| 21:07.49 | sredna | And most KDE apps can open files over ftp transperantly |
| 21:08.28 | Typosu | though kate tends to load a list of files over ftp a little too fast... my ftp has a 4 connection limit :o |
| 21:08.30 | PhilRod | fietz: krusader? |
| 21:08.31 | fietz | anyway that other one would be neat to know again, lgsobalvarro, frb-work |
| 21:08.43 | fietz | PhilRod: ahhhh, yes! |
| 21:08.46 | fietz | that's it! |
| 21:08.50 | fietz | thanks :-_) |
| 21:09.00 | sredna | Typosu: Again, it's a problem with kio, and it's being discussed how to fix it |
| 21:09.11 | Typosu | heh |
| 21:09.23 | Typosu | good to hear |
| 21:09.49 | sredna | I run into it once in a while too, so I agree :-) |
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| 21:12.40 | sredna | Hm, I wonder where kooka saves its images |
| 21:12.54 | Typosu | /dev/shm? ;) |
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| 21:15.16 | arrinmurr | lgsobalvarro: hmm.. how do i start up that knemo? |
| 21:15.33 | Typosu | arrinmurr: its in the networking menu I think |
| 21:15.41 | annma | arrinmurr: did you install it? |
| 21:16.03 | sredna | KDEHOME/share/apps/ScanImage |
| 21:16.07 | sredna | :\ |
| 21:16.09 | arrinmurr | annma: yeah, at least command "knemo" doesn't seem to work |
| 21:16.19 | lgsobalvarro | arrinmurr: kcontrol => KDE Components => Service Manager |
| 21:16.29 | annma | arrinmurr: did you compile it? |
| 21:16.42 | annma | or was it from your distro? |
| 21:16.56 | lgsobalvarro | annma: knemo is a KDE deamon |
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| 21:17.05 | arrinmurr | no, it was packaged for my distro (ubuntu) |
| 21:17.17 | annma | arrinmurr: ok then |
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| 21:18.21 | arrinmurr | hmm.. when i try to start it from Service Manager, it says "unable to start service" :/ |
| 21:18.49 | lgsobalvarro | try restarting you're session arrinmurr |
| 21:19.30 | arrinmurr | hmh.. ok |
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| 21:22.13 | arrinmurr | ah, seems to work now. thank you |
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| 21:25.10 | lgsobalvarro | no problem arrinmurr |
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| 21:41.35 | trumee | guys, www.orkut.com is crashing konqueror 3.5.1, can somebody else check this? |
| 21:43.07 | lgsobalvarro | trumee: it works with konqueror 3.5.0 |
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| 21:43.26 | trumee | lgsobalvarro:yup, used to work with 3.5 |
| 21:43.54 | annma | trumee: works well here |
| 21:44.03 | annma | trumee: how did you install kde 3.5.1? |
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| 21:44.17 | trumee | annma:well it crashes if one actually logs in orkut |
| 21:44.22 | arrinmurr | works here too - if just visiting there should crash konqueror |
| 21:44.27 | trumee | annma:did u log into orkut? |
| 21:44.34 | arrinmurr | oh |
| 21:45.08 | annma | loading.. it says |
| 21:45.20 | annma | i hate it now that it uses gmail password |
| 21:45.31 | trumee | annma:and? |
| 21:45.48 | trumee | annma:is it able to successfully log in? |
| 21:45.54 | annma | and nothing |
| 21:46.01 | annma | does not load, does not crash |
| 21:46.07 | trumee | annma:hmmm |
| 21:46.13 | arrinmurr | same here |
| 21:46.19 | annma | there's loading in red |
| 21:46.55 | trumee | and there was a popup? put an allow all in the popup config |
| 21:47.15 | trumee | in the javascript options and try logging in again into orkut |
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| 21:48.00 | lgsobalvarro | trumee: change the option "Smart" for other |
| 21:48.26 | trumee | ok, i just tried on another 3.5.1 machine and it worked there. i guess there is some problem with my home machine |
| 21:50.48 | annma | yes |
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| 21:56.55 | djzn | how to mute a microphone in kmixer |
| 21:57.01 | djzn | is that the green led ? |
| 21:57.16 | lgsobalvarro | djzn: the red led |
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| 21:57.25 | djzn | the green led is what? |
| 21:58.25 | lgsobalvarro | djzn: the green led is for mute |
| 21:58.38 | djzn | oh ok |
| 21:58.39 | djzn | nice |
| 21:58.52 | lgsobalvarro | djzn: red led: record |
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| 21:58.59 | djzn | thanks man |
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| 21:59.22 | lgsobalvarro | djzn: for mor info read the kmix handsbook |
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| 22:08.27 | Wulfie | hey folks - I am looking for the path I can install an Icon into for it to appear in all users k-menu - specifically on mepis |
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| 22:10.49 | Smak | What does one need to view/edit a superKaramba file |
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| 22:11.25 | frb-work | they are just zip files or targz or something |
| 22:11.57 | PhilRod | "file" is your firend there |
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| 22:13.04 | nefertum | do you know any app to rip the audio from a dvd? |
| 22:13.29 | mdeanda | is there a way to map a keyboar button XF86Sleep to the rightclick_on_batteryicon_suspend? |
| 22:13.45 | mdeanda | nefertum: i suppose you can use mencoder |
| 22:13.54 | nefertum | mmm mencoder? |
| 22:13.58 | cRoMo | Hi. I have very very annoying problem with kicker. It flickers all the time, everytime I move a window, change its size or even click inside it (particuralry in Opera) it flickers. This is very annoying behaviour and I noticed it causes a lot of cpu usage. I am using kde 3.5.1 with ubuntu dapper. It hapens either when using kicker's transparency and not. Is this a known bug/behaviour? |
| 22:13.58 | nefertum | ok, i will try it |
| 22:14.00 | mdeanda | from mplayer |
| 22:14.00 | Smak | mencoder is awesome |
| 22:14.11 | Wulfie | hey folks - I am looking for the path I can install an Icon into for it to appear in all users k-menu - specifically on mepis |
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| 22:15.02 | mdeanda | Wulfie: i think its in /opt/kde/share/applnk |
| 22:15.18 | yoruichi | Wulfie: mine are located at /usr/share/icons/ |
| 22:15.20 | mdeanda | i don't think you can use kmenuedit for it though |
| 22:15.28 | Wulfie | hrmm |
| 22:15.39 | Wulfie | mdeanda: yoruichi what distros are you guys using |
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| 22:15.56 | yoruichi | Wulfie: gentoo here |
| 22:16.18 | cRoMo | Can anyone please help me? Should I file a bug, ask developers about it? I can't live with that and don't want to give up as I just recently switched into kde |
| 22:16.19 | mdeanda | Wulfie: i just dbl checked.. its not that folder.. but i suppose its gotta be somehwere in the kde stuff.. |
| 22:16.21 | mdeanda | i'm using slackware |
| 22:16.28 | annma | Wulfie: type in terminal: kde-config --prefix |
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| 22:17.04 | annma | Wulfie: that'll tell you the KDE install dir |
| 22:17.25 | yoruichi | hi annma ;) |
| 22:17.37 | annma | hi yoruichi :) |
| 22:18.03 | yoruichi | annma: i'm having trouble w/ kbabel |
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| 22:18.10 | stoddardka | l |
| 22:18.17 | annma | yoruichi: :( what trouble? |
| 22:18.18 | stoddardka | hey guys |
| 22:18.52 | yoruichi | i del the config in ~/.kde, and restart the app |
| 22:18.56 | lgsobalvarro | hello stoddardka |
| 22:19.00 | yoruichi | now i cant configure it |
| 22:19.02 | stoddardka | I just installed kde 3.5, and when i try to move the windows, they freak out and render complete crap.. any clues? |
| 22:19.23 | mdeanda | anybody know how to trigger the "suspend" thing in klaptop? |
| 22:19.55 | yoruichi | annma: and i dont have the backups :S |
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| 22:20.34 | frb-work | how do I make konq not autoraise when I open a url from an application? |
| 22:20.36 | annma | stoddardka: how did you install? |
| 22:20.57 | annma | yoruichi: what happens when you try to configure it? |
| 22:21.28 | yoruichi | annma: it just behave like when i configure kdm and i dont have root passwd |
| 22:21.39 | yoruichi | annma: i cant change anything :?-) |
| 22:21.53 | annma | yoruichi: kbabe does not need root rights |
| 22:21.58 | annma | kbabel |
| 22:22.03 | yoruichi | annma: yep |
| 22:22.04 | annma | stoddardka: distro? |
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| 22:22.22 | yoruichi | annma: i mean i cant change anyhting |
| 22:22.39 | annma | what about a new user, yoruichi ? |
| 22:22.50 | annma | not root, a new normal user |
| 22:22.53 | yoruichi | that's what i'm gonna do right now ;) |
| 22:22.58 | annma | :) |
| 22:23.47 | yoruichi | work |
| 22:24.15 | yoruichi | i'll try to copy the *rc's to my .kde |
| 22:24.25 | annma | yes |
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| 22:25.44 | yoruichi | copied as root and chowned did it |
| 22:25.49 | kernel_i386 | hey, which font are you guys using? |
| 22:25.49 | yoruichi | :D |
| 22:25.54 | kernel_i386 | for the whole system |
| 22:25.57 | Wulfie | do you have to do something to make KDE regenerate the menu? |
| 22:26.04 | mdeanda | does anybody know why kmix stopped showing the osd when i hit the volume_up key? it used to do it before |
| 22:26.08 | yoruichi | Wulfie: kaapfinder ? |
| 22:26.25 | Wulfie | don't have that on my system |
| 22:26.28 | yoruichi | kernel_i386: 'bitsream vera san mono' here ;) |
| 22:26.35 | yoruichi | Wulfie: install it then |
| 22:26.48 | lgsobalvarro | Wulfie: delet .configure and .kde/share/applnk then restart session |
| 22:26.49 | Wulfie | yoruichi: this is for when a progrma is being installed - I can't depend on that app being there |
| 22:27.06 | Wulfie | how do applications do it when they are installing is basically my question I guess |
| 22:27.30 | yoruichi | Wulfie: the app must have the .desktop file, i think |
| 22:28.03 | Wulfie | okay say I am building an app and creating an rpm - theere is a .desktop file with the app - how do I make it so that icon appears in the k menu |
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| 22:28.15 | Wulfie | I thought you simply installed it to a location but that doesn't seem to be the caes |
| 22:28.27 | annma | Wulfie: a KDE app? |
| 22:28.53 | yoruichi | Wulfie: i guess it depends on your distro's config |
| 22:29.04 | annma | Wulfie: a KDE app should be installed to $KDEDIR |
| 22:29.06 | Wulfie | it can be a kde app but really it should be WM independant |
| 22:29.15 | annma | Wulfie: hu? |
| 22:29.15 | Wulfie | its a 3rd party app |
| 22:29.27 | annma | you get it included in the K menu |
| 22:29.36 | annma | with KMenuEditor |
| 22:29.39 | kernel_i386 | yoruichi: are you using it for everything? |
| 22:29.49 | yoruichi | kernel_i386: kinda |
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| 22:29.58 | annma | Wulfie: depends on your distro, I speak for KDE only K Menu |
| 22:30.04 | yoruichi | Wulfie: lots of .desktop files in my sytem are in /usr/share/applications |
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| 22:30.25 | Phoul | Hey is there a screenshot program for kde and if so whats it called |
| 22:30.37 | annma | KSnapshot in kdegraphics |
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| 22:30.47 | yoruichi | Wulfie: and yes, fluxbox scan them to generate its menu too |
| 22:31.01 | Phoul | ... |
| 22:31.05 | kernel_i386 | yoruichi: hmm, sometimes the font looks a bit like "Courier New" |
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| 22:31.13 | Phoul | Damn can i just get that program anyway without having kde? |
| 22:31.25 | yoruichi | kernel_i386: it is? i dont think so ;) |
| 22:31.38 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.42 | sredna | POS |
| 22:31.46 | kernel_i386 | yoruichi: hmm, well a bit.. or .. ehm the other one .. forgot the name :P |
| 22:31.51 | annma | Phoul: install kdelibs and kdegraphics |
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| 22:31.54 | yoruichi | heh |
| 22:32.40 | sredna | Can anyone recommend a simple, working cdrecord frontend for kde? |
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| 22:33.13 | sredna | Something that does not have a defunct device scan and that feeds cdrecord a working commandline? |
| 22:33.19 | Wulfie | okay so I create a bob.desktop in /usr/share/applications and it does show up in the menu - Under lost and Found - any ideas why its there? |
| 22:34.06 | yoruichi | Wulfie: set the category as you wont |
| 22:34.13 | yoruichi | want* |
| 22:34.33 | yoruichi | e.g: Categories=Application;Network; |
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| 22:34.52 | lgsobalvarro | Wulfie: you should cheate it in /user/share/applnk/Youre-Category/app.desktop |
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| 22:35.59 | Wulfie | and if I want my own category or it to be in the top menu? |
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| 22:37.05 | sredna | Ahhhh |
| 22:37.10 | annma | look at freedesktop.org, Wulfie |
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| 22:37.26 | sredna | $ cdrecord -dev=0,2,0 file.iso... it's so simple |
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| 22:37.29 | annma | the .desktop file structure is defines there |
| 22:38.28 | yoruichi | sredna: burning image is simple, but burning lots of files on different dirs is not l) |
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| 22:40.09 | sredna | yoruichi: Which is why I'd like to install a working app. K3b is simply not cutting it, ahlf the time it does something wrong with cdrecord, which makes the device not work at all, and with my current kernel it can't even find the device, and there is no means of adding any device that it can't find on its own. K3b is a POS |
| 22:40.27 | reagleBRKLN | In my KMenu I have created an application shortcut to the command "/usr/bin/X11/xvncviewer -via localhost -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd shuttle:0". I have associated the blue screen icon of KRDC within the KMenu. However, when I am running the application and iconify xvncviewer I get the ugly and generic X window icon in the taskbar. Is there any way to fix that? The reason I ask is because a number of applications that weren't known by KDE do this and they can |
| 22:41.02 | Typosu | hm? It works fine for me... |
| 22:41.25 | sredna | Never really did for me |
| 22:41.35 | sredna | Always problems |
| 22:41.36 | yoruichi | sredna: ouch |
| 22:41.57 | yoruichi | always working great here ;) |
| 22:42.12 | sredna | It's probably my sad old device |
| 22:42.22 | yoruichi | sredna: what is it? |
| 22:42.50 | sredna | The cdwriter? A hp 9200i (scsi) |
| 22:43.10 | yoruichi | ah scsi |
| 22:43.17 | yoruichi | never had one ;) |
| 22:43.21 | sredna | And I have a really bad adaptec scsi card |
| 22:43.38 | Sho_ | IDE/ATAPI here |
| 22:44.01 | Typosu | hmm.. afaik my old LG 12x CDRW and my newish Pioneer DVR107D (dvd5-8x) works fine... |
| 22:44.07 | Sho_ | I don't think I've had any problems with k3b over the last 150 CDs/DVDs I've recorded |
| 22:44.07 | sredna | The hp device is one ot those that requires 'vendor specific options' in the kernel config |
| 22:44.11 | Typosu | with k3b that is |
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| 22:44.12 | yoruichi | sredna: tried graveman ? |
| 22:44.23 | sredna | yoruichi: I have no idea what that is |
| 22:44.36 | yoruichi | sredna: burning app (gtk) |
| 22:44.44 | sredna | I haven't gtk installed |
| 22:44.48 | sredna | I dont want to |
| 22:44.58 | yoruichi | forget it then ;) |
| 22:45.27 | sredna | I really want something that integrates with kde, and if only k3b would work I'd be fine with it, although it is overly complex |
| 22:45.44 | sredna | Maybe I should try kiso |
| 22:45.58 | kernel_i386 | is it possible to enable "ctrl+c" copy in console? |
| 22:46.54 | johnny69 | kernel_i386: I've found control-c works about 1/2 the time in Kde. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. :( |
| 22:47.12 | kernel_i386 | yea.. my experience *G* |
| 22:47.14 | TheMonoTone | kernel_i386: generally ctrl+c is a kill command for a running program |
| 22:47.19 | kernel_i386 | indeed.. .. |
| 22:47.25 | kernel_i386 | just thought about *G* |
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| 22:47.45 | TheMonoTone | maybe settings->shortcuts? |
| 22:47.55 | Ertain | Does anyone know how to change the bootsplash? |
| 22:48.00 | TheMonoTone | just like every other kde program? |
| 22:48.04 | johnny69 | shift-insert sometimes works for paste as well. Switch away, come back to same app....and it no longer works. same for control-V for paste...shift-delete for copy...oit's a crapshoot everytime you attempt it. |
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| 22:48.22 | kernel_i386 | eventhough I hate "clicking" with my mouse all the time to copy&paste |
| 22:48.35 | kernel_i386 | yea johnny69 .. noticed that |
| 22:48.43 | DirkGently | Ertain: which bootsplash? |
| 22:49.01 | johnny69 | kernel_i386: Now that I think about it, it's been that way through every revision of kde and every distro I've ever tried :( |
| 22:49.07 | Ertain | The one that is displayed when the OS is loading up all the stuff. |
| 22:49.19 | kernel_i386 | hehe |
| 22:49.26 | DirkGently | Ertain: that depends on the distro |
| 22:49.37 | athlon | Where does kde store a user's customized k-menu ? |
| 22:49.43 | DirkGently | it's not part of KDE |
| 22:49.53 | Ertain | Right-o then. |
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| 22:50.42 | yoruichi | how do i reload .Xdefaults again? |
| 22:50.49 | yoruichi | i forgot the command ;) |
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| 23:05.50 | Phoul | Hey whats the screenshot program called? |
| 23:05.52 | Phoul | kscreenshot? |
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| 23:07.08 | lgsobalvarro | Phoul: ksnapshot |
| 23:07.12 | Phoul | thx |
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| 23:07.51 | lgsobalvarro | np Phoul |
| 23:08.09 | Phoul | uhh |
| 23:08.10 | Phoul | :| |
| 23:08.15 | Phoul | In yum it says its not there |
| 23:08.16 | Phoul | :| |
| 23:08.24 | Phoul | ksnapshot |
| 23:08.35 | Phoul | Is there any specific things like KSnapShot |
| 23:08.35 | lostson | yum install kdegraphics |
| 23:08.37 | lgsobalvarro | Phoul: ksnapshot is part of kdegraphics |
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| 23:08.50 | Phoul | OHH okay thank you |
| 23:08.51 | Phoul | :) |
| 23:09.37 | Phoul | uhh for dependencies its saying it will install xdm and kdebase |
| 23:09.52 | Phoul | I dont really need kde right now until i fix my problem |
| 23:09.58 | DirkGently | Phoul: you're running KDE? |
| 23:10.01 | Phoul | No |
| 23:10.13 | lgsobalvarro | Phoul: you can use gimp |
| 23:10.14 | DirkGently | you need it for ksnapshot |
| 23:10.19 | Phoul | ... |
| 23:10.22 | lostson | well if you just need to take a screener just use the terminal then with "import yadaa.png |
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| 23:10.39 | Phoul | yeah but it gets the terminal every time |
| 23:10.50 | Phoul | like i cant kill the terminal out of the pic |
| 23:10.59 | lgsobalvarro | Phoul: you can use gimp to take a screenshot |
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| 23:11.44 | viktor | HOLA HOLA |
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| 23:12.06 | lgsobalvarro | hello viktor (here you should speek english) |
| 23:12.13 | viktor | KIND ODD |
| 23:12.16 | viktor | OPS |
| 23:12.28 | viktor | WHERE ARE YOU FROM |
| 23:12.38 | frb-work | I'm from the land without caps lock |
| 23:12.44 | yoruichi | muahaha |
| 23:12.45 | lgsobalvarro | viktor: please dont use caps lock |
| 23:13.01 | viktor | ok |
| 23:13.22 | viktor | why |
| 23:13.23 | yoruichi | frb-work: where's that land located? ;) |
| 23:13.32 | yoruichi | viktor: caps mean shouting |
| 23:13.40 | viktor | hmmmm |
| 23:13.49 | viktor | i don't understand |
| 23:14.17 | viktor | whatever |
| 23:14.53 | viktor | do you know how can i configure mi fx5200 |
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| 23:15.42 | viktor | hello?? |
| 23:15.46 | yoruichi | viktor: nvidia? |
| 23:15.52 | viktor | yep |
| 23:16.12 | lgsobalvarro | viktor: this kde, aks that in #youre_distribution |
| 23:16.27 | lgsobalvarro | *ask |
| 23:17.22 | viktor | nobody is there |
| 23:18.31 | viktor | i've downloaded the "driver for linux" but doesn't work |
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| 23:21.07 | lgsobalvarro | viktor: en español a ver si me comprendes, esto es #kde y nada tiene que ver con como configurar tu tarjeta de video. Pregunta en #Tu_Distribución o mira el FAQ de la pag de nvidia. |
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| 23:21.41 | viktor | JAJA |
| 23:21.43 | viktor | OK |
| 23:21.44 | viktor | sorry |
| 23:21.47 | viktor | gracias |
| 23:22.02 | lgsobalvarro | no problem viktor |
| 23:22.50 | viktor | como le hago para entrar ahi |
| 23:22.54 | viktor | soy nuevo en esto |
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| 23:23.48 | lgsobalvarro | viktor: what distribution do you use? |
| 23:24.13 | viktor | SUSE |
| 23:24.17 | viktor | suse |
| 23:24.35 | lgsobalvarro | so viktor ask in #suse |
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| 23:25.19 | viktor | ok thak you!!!! |
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| 23:26.01 | Wulfie | thanks for everyones help |
| 23:26.06 | lgsobalvarro | viktor: or ask in #suse-es (for spanish help) |
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| 23:26.41 | kernel_i386 | where can I set the font color for the "konqueror" file manager - like the files that displayed are "grey" on "grey" almost - don't find it in Appearance settings menu |
| 23:28.32 | DirkGently | kernel_i386: Appearance -> Normal text colour? |
| 23:28.44 | kernel_i386 | that is set to BLACK |
| 23:28.53 | kernel_i386 | but it's grey ... |
| 23:28.57 | lgsobalvarro | kernel_i386: Konqueror => Settings => Configure Konqueror => Apparence |
| 23:29.08 | kernel_i386 | thanks .. didnt know he had his own |
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| 23:30.42 | DirkGently | black is black |
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| 23:32.29 | kernel_i386 | and how can I make konqueror display everything in "details"-mode? (I don't want to have big icons for folders) |
| 23:33.27 | DirkGently | kernel_i386: you mean get it to stay in details mode? |
| 23:33.27 | yoruichi | view > view mode > choose one |
| 23:33.55 | kernel_i386 | yes DirkGently |
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| 23:34.27 | kernel_i386 | damn.. I just noticed.. I am in detail-mode - but the icons are too big.. what can I do :D |
| 23:35.11 | DirkGently | kernel_i386: change it then Settings -> Save View "File Management" |
| 23:35.15 | lgsobalvarro | kernel_i386: Konqueror => View => Detailed List Mode |
| 23:35.46 | kernel_i386 | thanks |
| 23:35.59 | kernel_i386 | how can I make the icons smaller? |
| 23:36.09 | kernel_i386 | they make each line too high |
| 23:36.20 | lgsobalvarro | then Settings => Save View "File Management" |
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| 23:36.27 | yoruichi | view > icon size > .... |
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| 23:36.35 | DirkGently | kernel_i386: control centre -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons |
| 23:36.36 | kernel_i386 | ow.. :D |
| 23:36.46 | kernel_i386 | thanks dudes |
| 23:36.47 | lgsobalvarro | kernel_i386:: Vier => Icon Size |
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| 23:43.01 | gregday | anyone tried to build extragear/multimedia/kaffeine ? |
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| 23:43.12 | gregday | im getting: /usr/include/linux/dvb/dmx.h:164: error: `__u64' does not name a type |
| 23:43.52 | anabain | hi, can anybody tell me if it's kde's 3.5 fault not starting aMule when called through the menu icon? From Konsole it works... |
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| 23:44.10 | gregday | anabain: what's the exact command the icon is running? |
| 23:45.29 | anabain | how can I find it out? |
| 23:45.42 | anabain | in konsole is: $ amule --I-am-scared-of-no-dangerous-code |
| 23:45.58 | gregday | anabain: use kmenuedit |
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| 23:47.19 | anabain | gregday, I have only "amule", perhaps amule's guys have changed the command... |
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| 23:47.54 | Ash-Fox | Just curious, does KDE have any particular advantage/disadvantage when using it on a Linux kernel, say compared to a BSD kernel? |
| 23:47.56 | anabain | you mean I need to put "amule --I-am-scared-of-no-dangerous-code" in command's box, gregday, don't you? |
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| 23:48.05 | gregday | anabain: just edit the entry in your menu to be like what you are running in konsole |
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| 23:48.09 | gregday | anabain: yes |
| 23:48.10 | anabain | ok |
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| 23:49.51 | anabain | thank you very much, gregday !! |
| 23:49.56 | gregday | anabain: happy to help |
| 23:54.07 | Sho_ | Ash-Fox: There's some functionality that's harder to get on FreeBSD, mostly related to reacting to hardware events and such, as far as I understand it |
| 23:54.34 | Sho_ | Ash-Fox: KDE seems to be fairly popular among FreeBSDlers, though |
| 23:55.08 | phr0z3n | Yes. |
| 23:55.13 | phr0z3n | I use BSD. |
| 23:55.17 | phr0z3n | And I use KDE. |
| 23:55.44 | Ash-Fox | Would you be kind enough to point to what the issues particulary? |
| 23:56.39 | phr0z3n | I dont think so. |
| 23:56.59 | Yagami | is smooth scroolling available in kde 3.5.1 ? |
| 23:58.38 | phr0z3n | Is smooth scrolling avalibel for Linux? |
| 23:58.47 | phr0z3n | On KDE. |
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| 23:59.56 | Sho_ | phr0z3n: In Konqueror? I believe there was a patch .. |
