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00:02.57 | Knowerrors | Any people here that have Midi working? I do but am looking to improve performance |
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00:09.52 | CHodapp | Knowerrors, what sort of performance issues do you have? |
00:10.16 | Knowerrors | well, my cpu goes up to over 90% just playing back some songs |
00:10.56 | CHodapp | What CPU? And what sound card? Do you have a wavetable loaded? |
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00:11.16 | CHodapp | you can probably use hardware synthesis on the soundcard, instead of using whatever softsynth is available |
00:12.16 | CHodapp | but I used to play Midi files on a Pentium 2, 233 MHz, and it wouldn't take that much CPU time to do it realtime |
00:14.00 | Knowerrors | Im using ubuntu, and supposedly only Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZX, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum, Sound Blaster Live! |
00:14.10 | Knowerrors | Im using a Athlon XP 1.8G |
00:14.21 | CHodapp | 90% CPU time on that? |
00:14.26 | Knowerrors | with Timidity and http://www.fbriere.net/debian/dists/testing/misc/deb/timidity-patches-eaw_12-0fbriere.1_all.deb |
00:14.30 | Knowerrors | patch set |
00:14.31 | Knowerrors | yeah |
00:15.11 | CHodapp | I am also using eawpats and my CPU load is undetectable with Timidity. |
00:15.53 | Knowerrors | hmm, something wrong with my setup then? it fluctuates from 0% idle to 38% while playing some songs |
00:16.06 | CHodapp | try it from commandline |
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00:16.36 | Knowerrors | same thing |
00:17.04 | CHodapp | hrm |
00:17.21 | CHodapp | find some soundfonts, load with asfxload, and try 'pmidi' or 'amidi' or something |
00:17.55 | CHodapp | there are other softsynths, like FluidSynth, that can use soundfonts as well... you can use pmidi to play to them, I think |
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00:18.34 | Knowerrors | I have FluidSynth installed also, but I couldn't get soundfonts to load, couldn't find synth device |
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00:19.14 | CHodapp | couldn't find synth device? |
00:19.15 | CHodapp | hmmm |
00:19.39 | dec0ding | anyone has Ati Radeon 9200 series and uses Translucency options in KDE ? (slackware 10.2, kde 3.4.2, xorg 6.8.2) |
00:19.48 | dec0ding | I mean I have that system |
00:19.57 | dec0ding | and the translucency is awful |
00:20.01 | Knowerrors | CHodapp: yeah, synth device |
00:20.07 | dec0ding | nothing works properly |
00:20.28 | CHodapp | dec0ding, try new X with its Exa support, perhaps... only Radeon has full support so far in Exa, I think. |
00:20.46 | dec0ding | CHodapp, 7.0 ? |
00:20.59 | CHodapp | yes |
00:21.21 | CHodapp | I tried translucency in KDE with my Radeon 9250 but it was unusably slow |
00:21.47 | dec0ding | ahm...then u tried with Exa ? |
00:21.59 | CHodapp | not yet, because I'm on my box via VNC right now |
00:23.06 | dec0ding | ahm |
00:26.29 | CHodapp | I'm pondering whether to get a really good CRT, or a decent LCD with DVI.. |
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01:27.11 | PlasmaHH | hi, anyone can assist me with kmail 1.9.1 ? Im trying to use it to send an email but it keeps telling me about SASL error "no mechanism available" ... what can I do to make it work ? |
01:28.39 | mike-m | configure the smtp account |
01:29.21 | PlasmaHH | how ? I have setup server and login and passwort, what else should I do ? |
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01:29.41 | mike-m | configuration>configure kmail>accounts>sending mail (in the top there are receiving and sending) |
01:30.25 | mike-m | select your smtp account, and configure it like it should be, remove ssl if it isn't supporting it |
01:30.27 | PlasmaHH | yes, I added my account data there |
01:30.46 | PlasmaHH | its on no encryption and PLAIN for login |
01:32.15 | mike-m | i don't know more /-: |
01:32.34 | PlasmaHH | I really wonder what it wants with sasl ... |
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01:33.02 | mike-m | i dunno |
01:33.31 | mike-m | did you try the button "check what the server supports" (or something like this) ? |
01:34.12 | PlasmaHH | yes, it displays several things, no combination works, its not the fault of the server... it sends a "EHLO" to the server and then a "QUIT" and I get the error messages, its completely local |
01:35.57 | mike-m | and does only kmail not work? did you try with telnet? |
01:36.28 | PlasmaHH | everything else works fine |
01:36.33 | mike-m | ok |
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01:43.54 | joedj | hi folks. i'm trying to embed python in a Qt app and then use the pydcop module from python. when i attempt to import the module, i get "QApplication: There should be max one application object". any ideas? |
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02:15.33 | versaily | how can i eneble transparent windows??? |
02:16.10 | versaily | ive seen screenshots with transparent windows (like xmms and the temnial) how can i do it??? |
02:16.44 | lc23 | how can i get the bsod screensaver ? |
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02:32.25 | FuzzyTheBear | Gentlemen Ladies , to you all a very merry Christmas , health , love and prosperity for the new year. |
02:33.54 | straw | thank you, FuzzyTheBear :) |
02:34.07 | straw | same to you |
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02:57.01 | vaxo | Re! |
02:57.06 | vaxo | hi xmas people |
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02:59.43 | mhall | I was just playing with the KDE 3.5 translucency settings and enabled them but they are not doing anything yet. Do they require an X setting or a restart of KDE that I'm missing? kcontrol did not warn about either. |
03:01.19 | Anonycat | Is there anything for KDE with the same function as gnome-applet-netspeed? |
03:02.44 | mhall | what does it do |
03:03.17 | mhall | try knetload |
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03:03.38 | mhall | and networkstatus |
03:03.40 | mhall | and knemo |
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03:05.37 | _sojourner | how do I change the suse green meatball for kmenu to the K and gear ? |
03:06.41 | Atomic_UE | is there some kind of keyboard layout for a ms wireless multimedia keyboard 1.1? |
03:07.27 | Atomic_UE | There a layout for 1.0a but that misses a number of buttons and has a few back to front when using 1.1 keyboard |
03:07.30 | hydrogen | maybe in lineak |
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03:11.43 | vax- | Re! |
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03:16.15 | MechaRoey | SMiLeaf: play videogames? |
03:16.31 | SMiLeaf | MechaRoey: *shrugs* .. just got done coding for 8hrs :/ |
03:16.55 | SMiLeaf | rewrote at least 40% of 1 of my websites |
03:16.55 | oGALAXYo | finally all my bookmarks sorted again... that was a pain... i went through them one by one (because pages change every now and then) reloaded them, sorted new ones, recategorized some etc... took me 2 days... 583 bookmarks... |
03:16.58 | MechaRoey | SMiLeaf: wow |
03:17.16 | SMiLeaf | MechaRoey: new methods are so nice tho!... code is far more readable |
03:17.28 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: let me ask you a question about use rinterface |
03:17.37 | oGALAXYo | yes |
03:17.47 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: So I have my computer at home |
03:17.51 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: and I have another at work |
03:17.57 | oGALAXYo | yes |
03:18.03 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: and KDE on both |
03:18.11 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: now, how should I synchronize the bookmarks? |
03:18.44 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: more generally than that, what if I want bookmarks to automatically synchronize |
03:18.44 | MechaRoey | ? |
03:19.10 | SMiLeaf | you can export / import ? |
03:19.18 | MechaRoey | sure. |
03:19.19 | MechaRoey | but then, |
03:19.24 | Atomic_UE | use a cron job to copy them from one machine to the other? |
03:19.35 | MechaRoey | eh, I dunno, I always seem to lose track of which export file is the latest one. |
03:19.43 | lc23 | hey anyone know how to get the bsod screensaver in kde ? |
03:19.46 | Atomic_UE | ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
03:19.50 | MechaRoey | hmm, ok. |
03:19.53 | Atomic_UE | I think that's the file |
03:19.57 | MechaRoey | Atomic_UE: right, but |
03:20.03 | SMiLeaf | lc23: I think that's an xscreensaver |
03:20.11 | lc23 | ok |
03:20.12 | MechaRoey | well... I guess. |
03:20.35 | MechaRoey | Atomic_UE: now, what about akregator feeds? |
03:20.52 | oGALAXYo | ok time for bed.. hell i am happy that i sorted that shit again. |
03:20.56 | MechaRoey | Atomic_UE: I find a new feed and I have to add it to both work & home manually |
03:20.58 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: :) |
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03:21.35 | Atomic_UE | if u don't want to copy that bookmark.xml file use 'keditbookmarks --nogui --exporthtml' or some option like that, but it requires X to be running and stuff :S |
03:22.03 | oGALAXYo | it used to be 471 bookmarks.. i deleted some and added nearly 100 new ones. |
03:22.32 | MechaRoey | atok |
03:22.36 | oGALAXYo | 471 ~20 deleted... 583 now.. |
03:22.36 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: :) awesome. |
03:22.43 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: are you a packrat like me |
03:22.46 | oGALAXYo | 132 new ones. |
03:23.02 | oGALAXYo | i like my shit organized |
03:23.05 | Atomic_UE | MechaRoey: file:///home/atomic/.kde/share/apps/akregator/data/feeds.opml |
03:23.11 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: where you have all these links that you probably don't ever visit yet consider them important enough that they're worth keeping |
03:23.19 | MechaRoey | Atomic_UE: ah, thanks |
03:23.38 | Atomic_UE | MechaRoey: or use a cronjob to export akregator stuff too, I do |
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03:24.20 | harryguy | hello room |
03:24.48 | SMiLeaf | hmmm... maybe I should work on getting graphics acceleration working |
03:24.52 | oGALAXYo | hello hairyguy |
03:25.25 | SMiLeaf | 2.4GHz and an ATI card and it can't even render the OpenGL screensavers better than a 400Mhz |
03:25.27 | harryguy | i'm trying to write a plugin (it seems kinda like i'm using perl) for gaim and i want to use DCOP, do i just type "dcop then command....." |
03:25.42 | straw | i swear my isp/telco is staffed by crack addicts |
03:25.43 | harryguy | do i have to include a library or something |
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03:26.01 | Ertain | Hello anyone. |
03:26.20 | harryguy | i don't know much about perl so this is a lot of cut and pasting other plugins and adding in what i need |
03:26.30 | harryguy | and hoping i'm right |
03:26.39 | Ertain | What I'd like to know is about /etc/modprobe.conf |
03:26.53 | harryguy | it is a file |
03:27.00 | harryguy | what do you want to know about it? |
03:27.07 | SMiLeaf | harryguy: you can run shell commands by using `` around the command in perl. so if it works using your shell.. it'll work there. |
03:27.14 | harryguy | ok, thanks |
03:27.35 | Ertain | Does anyone know about the syntax of /etc/modprobe.conf? |
03:27.48 | harryguy | ertain> did you try googler |
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03:28.10 | Ertain | Yep. Couldn't find much. |
03:28.11 | harryguy | *googleing |
03:28.16 | SMiLeaf | Ertain: did you try the man pages ? |
03:28.46 | SMiLeaf | man modprobe.conf |
03:28.59 | Ertain | Actually, it's just that it keep ignoring a part in the file, something about an error with "remove". |
03:29.34 | SMiLeaf | Ertain: I'd ask in ##linux .. they are pretty helpful normally for me. |
03:29.50 | Ertain | Right-o then. |
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03:32.20 | harryguy | does anybody know what this line might be trying to say\do? " #define RB_IID"OAFIID:GNOME_Rhythmbox" " |
03:32.31 | harryguy | RB_IID? |
03:32.56 | SMiLeaf | maybe I'll patch konversation to pick up ##channel links :/ |
03:33.53 | Atomic_UE | SMiLeaf: Find out how I can get the "special" keys on this ms wireless multimedia 1.1 keyboard to work properly :P |
03:34.15 | harryguy | go to the acessabilties page in kde control center |
03:34.48 | harryguy | sitting here using it as we speak |
03:35.48 | Atomic_UE | harryguy: I've tried a few of the layouts...a number of the keys still don't function and a few are mixed up |
03:35.55 | harryguy | which ones? |
03:36.15 | harryguy | i couldn't get a few also, put a post on a msg board then gave up |
03:36.21 | Atomic_UE | harryguy: atm i've resorted to trying each of the layouts no matter how right or wrong it is, to see if i can find one that is the most correct :P |
03:36.49 | lc23 | does anyone know how long kdegames should take to emerge in gentoo ? |
03:37.00 | harryguy | the |
03:37.30 | SMiLeaf | Atomic_UE: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys |
03:37.37 | SMiLeaf | Atomic_UE: anything else? =p |
03:37.38 | harryguy | "microsot wireless multimedia keyboard 1.0A" layout dosn't have all the keys workingm but none of them are mixed up |
03:37.50 | Atomic_UE | there's a wireless multimedia 1.0a that gets the multimedia keys but that's it. The natural/internet pro layout has a few more keys that work |
03:38.05 | harryguy | o, i'm using the natrual one |
03:38.10 | harryguy | *a natrual one |
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03:40.58 | harryguy | gees, going thorugh a plugin to chaing it from using rhythmbox under gnome to amarok under kde, and it seems like talking to another app is a heck of a lot harder in gnome than it is in kde |
03:42.23 | SMiLeaf | harryguy: that's cuz in gnome you can't have anything do too much or you'll confuse someone =) |
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03:45.42 | MechaRoey | SMiLeaf: very true ;) |
03:46.03 | MechaRoey | SMiLeaf: (you'll confuse the venture capitalists who wouldn't otherwise invest in Ximian) |
03:46.15 | SMiLeaf | XD |
03:46.37 | SMiLeaf | I hate saying that but it's sadly true. |
03:46.45 | MechaRoey | SMiLeaf: And that's a direct jab at Ximian for dicking Gnome over in the past few years. |
03:46.51 | MechaRoey | and Ximian dicked over Novell too. |
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03:48.07 | harryguy | i made a slight mistake before, i thought this plugin was made in perl, it was made in c (when i noticed that the name ended in .c i felt quite dumb), how do i contact dcop from within c? |
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03:49.01 | SMiLeaf | you can in cpp very easily :) |
03:49.58 | harryguy | the file i'm trying to screw around with ends in .c so.... |
03:50.42 | SMiLeaf | out of curiousity what are you trying to do anyway? |
03:51.23 | harryguy | i'm trying to get gaim to display what song i'm listening to at the bttom of my profile ( i use amarok) |
03:52.10 | harryguy | i found one that does that for rhtyumbox under gnome, and i don't know much about how to write plugins so i'm seeing if i mess around with it i can get it to work with amarok |
03:52.24 | SMiLeaf | you might try finding a 'now listening' plugin to see how they get that info. |
03:53.00 | harryguy | k |
03:53.16 | SMiLeaf | I know kopete has a plugin for that.. maybe not appending it to your profile. but the now playing. |
03:53.36 | harryguy | i think i saw one before that puts the song from amarok into your conversation so i'll look if i can find that again |
03:54.03 | harryguy | the one for rythum box make it so you can to %r and it replaces with the song |
03:54.17 | harryguy | like %t and %u do in aim |
03:56.27 | SMiLeaf | I only started with linux 3 yrs ago :) |
03:57.09 | mike-m | i started 1 year and a half |
03:57.39 | harryguy | about 10 months |
03:57.58 | harryguy | fist to try for the hell of it, then i just had no reason to go back to windows so i stayed |
03:58.13 | SMiLeaf | wow.. maybe I'm almost on my 4th year. |
03:58.37 | SMiLeaf | started just a few months before kde 3.0 was released. |
03:58.43 | jhutchins | I ran it on servers for years before I switched my desktop because desktop performance was so much slower. |
03:59.11 | harryguy | i think about 6 years ago i tried it, but didn't have a clue what i was doing so i swittched back |
03:59.19 | jhutchins | Finally did a hardware upgrade that didn't have W95 drivers, and I never upgraded Windows. |
04:00.12 | jhutchins | I find that a couple of years experience in text mode makes a LOT of difference in how well people manage a system. |
04:00.32 | SMiLeaf | 2002-2003 I did a lot of switching back and forth.. but after XP crashed for the 2nd time leaving me with everything lost yet again.. I went solo-linux :) |
04:00.38 | harryguy | right after i started i tried a gentoo stage 1 instlation |
04:00.58 | jhutchins | Contrary to some beliefs, I think the GUI tools don't make it easier to learn, they protect you from having to learn things you should know. |
04:01.04 | harryguy | never worked all the way, but i learned a heck of a lot about the workings of linux while i did it |
04:01.13 | SMiLeaf | 1.4rc2 was my first Gentoo.. havn't gone to any other distro since. :) |
04:01.46 | jhutchins | harryguy: I have a couple of current Gentoo servers and a desktop, and I would ventur that Gentoo _still_ doesn't work all the way. |
04:02.21 | harryguy | after trying every major distro i could find known to man (and some minor ones) i'm using suse on my desktop and in the process of installing gentoo on my laptop |
04:02.54 | SMiLeaf | I got gentoo installed on both my laptop and desktop. desktop I'm using as a server toh. |
04:02.55 | harryguy | j> i haven't used it enfoguht to comment, but that seems understandable\expectable |
04:03.17 | harryguy | i have two serves in my basment (two old comps each using fedora) and they do fine |
04:03.41 | SMiLeaf | it probably took me around a year to get familuar enough with both gentoo and my laptop to get _everything_ working how I want it. :) |
04:04.46 | SMiLeaf | well.. I suppose I still don't have graphics acceleration.. but I don't play games much |
04:04.59 | SMiLeaf | brb |
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04:05.57 | harryguy | Getting video cards 100% working is always a pain, on any distro |
04:06.03 | SMiLeaf | ##testy |
04:06.05 | SMiLeaf | meh |
04:07.10 | mike-m | 05:06 Irssi: ##testy: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal] |
04:07.11 | mike-m | >| |
04:07.27 | SMiLeaf | mike-m: trying to get it highlighted in konversation |
04:08.41 | mike-m | ah |
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04:13.05 | jhutchins | SMiLeaf: Konversation only highlights single hash prefaced words as channels, but will open the channel if it's valid. |
04:13.08 | jhutchins | #wicca |
04:13.18 | jhutchins | (Not valid here) |
04:13.18 | harryguy | does anybody know what the diffrence between gchar and gchar is? |
04:13.36 | SMiLeaf | jhutchins: I know.. I'd like it to highlight double hashed prefaced words as channels |
04:13.37 | jhutchins | 11 spaces to the left? |
04:13.47 | jhutchins | SMiLeaf: think you'll have to hack that. |
04:13.57 | SMiLeaf | jhutchins: already in progress |
04:14.06 | jhutchins | ##doesn't ##work ##here |
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04:46.26 | MechaRoey | <test> |
04:46.27 | MechaRoey | ok. |
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04:50.59 | mobtek | MechaRoey: speaking of mecha, you got heavygear 2 linux iso? :P |
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04:51.11 | JustinS | Hi all .. I've got kde-3.5 and would like to make it as much like a Mac as I can (mainly for play, but I do like the kicker kind of thing they have) .. I would like to add a kicker down there where the icon's work like the mac's .. simple? |
04:52.03 | mobtek | JustinS: hmm karamba stuff on kde-look.org iirc |
04:52.33 | mobtek | cool dock or whatever it's called |
04:52.36 | MechaRoey | mobtek: no, I didn't know it's out ;) |
04:52.40 | Atomic_UE | artsd keeps telling me "couldn't load file ..." |
04:52.42 | MechaRoey | if that's a game? |
04:52.53 | Atomic_UE | it seems to only occure on mp3 and ogg files |
04:52.57 | Atomic_UE | anyone know why? |
04:53.01 | mobtek | MechaRoey: haha yes came out years ago, now defunct, think I can find an iso :P |
04:53.07 | MechaRoey | mobtek: hehe |
04:53.19 | mobtek | since no cs or mechwarrior for linux sucks |
04:53.26 | king_elessar | JustinS: On the baghira site, they have a tutorial on making your computer look like a mac... |
04:53.38 | mobtek | but my nvidia drivers suck so much and freeze all the time it's not worth the trouble heheh |
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04:55.18 | JustinS | king_elessar: and mobtek .. cool .. on my way .. I just downloaded the tar from kde-look.org .. called KDE X .. we'll see what it's got .. And where is superkaramba in 3.5? It said it's included now but I don't see it anywhere .. |
04:55.20 | king_elessar | JustinS: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php |
04:55.34 | king_elessar | JustinS: kdeutils |
04:55.59 | JustinS | king_elessar: thanks much .. |
04:56.45 | MechaRoey | mobtek: tell me more |
04:56.54 | MechaRoey | mobtek: do you have a geforce4 ti4x00 by any chance? |
04:57.14 | MechaRoey | mobtek: I'm considering buying a new(er) nvidia card. This fucking thing freezes on me all the time |
04:57.21 | mobtek | ti4200 yes |
04:57.25 | mobtek | same here dude |
04:57.30 | mobtek | pissing me off no end |
04:57.32 | MechaRoey | mobtek: or more like, it causes X to take up 99% CPU time. |
04:57.37 | mobtek | yuppers |
04:57.41 | MechaRoey | mobtek: apparently it is a 4200 thing |
04:57.44 | MechaRoey | upgrade past a geforce4. |
04:57.52 | mobtek | when I have a spare $100 I'm getting another friggin card :) |
04:57.57 | MechaRoey | what kind? |
04:58.04 | mobtek | hmm > 5200 |
04:58.07 | MechaRoey | ok |
04:58.38 | MechaRoey | I thought thatthe 5x00's are just rebranded 4x00's |
04:58.38 | mobtek | you read the nvidia forums you can see which brands and knockoff nividia's don't work |
04:58.39 | mobtek | yeah some of them are |
04:58.41 | mobtek | some of the 5200's work without a hitch |
04:58.46 | MechaRoey | oh, so you read of this problem in the forums too? |
04:58.49 | mobtek | other are rebranded and crash all the time |
04:58.55 | MechaRoey | jeez. |
04:59.00 | mobtek | haha yes I have put in about 5 bug reports |
04:59.08 | MechaRoey | so.. I can't just get a 6600 eh? I have to read the forums too? |
04:59.14 | MechaRoey | <PROTECTED> |
04:59.14 | mobtek | yes do |
04:59.28 | mobtek | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 |
04:59.30 | mobtek | heheh |
04:59.32 | MechaRoey | thanks |
05:00.01 | MechaRoey | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=9aa9c12cf82fc2a3e4909ef646aca21e&t=58498 |
05:00.37 | mobtek | yeah I don't get that hehe |
05:01.24 | mobtek | might compile 2.6.14.4 and see if the hdd speed of access issues I had with x.2 are fixed |
05:01.28 | MechaRoey | I don't trust nvidia anymore, honestly. |
05:01.37 | mobtek | same |
05:01.54 | MechaRoey | it's too confusing to find a card that will work 100%. |
05:01.54 | mobtek | I wish ati would open their drivers and I'd buy a nice ati card, which seem to kick arse on the macs hehe |
05:02.10 | MechaRoey | and even then, the drivers limit you so that you can't do certain things |
05:02.39 | MechaRoey | I don't remember off the top of my head, but I think it's that you can't do xinerama simultaneously with dri |
05:02.57 | mobtek | nope |
05:03.00 | MechaRoey | no? |
05:03.04 | MechaRoey | so what I said is true? |
05:03.07 | mobtek | nvidia need to pull their heads out of their arses |
05:03.14 | MechaRoey | heh |
05:03.19 | mobtek | last good driver was 4496 |
05:03.29 | MechaRoey | well if they GPLed their drivers.. |
05:03.36 | mobtek | I'd go back to that driver if it compiled with 2.6.x kernels |
05:03.38 | MechaRoey | even 4496 caused X to lock up on me. |
05:04.08 | mobtek | nah never had that with that driver, but I was using the hacked up version not the nvidia release hehe |
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05:04.59 | MechaRoey | hello Alethes |
05:05.27 | Alethes | heya :) |
05:05.54 | Alethes | motorola E815 phone with a 1.3 megapixel cam, bluetooth and mp3 player :D |
05:06.02 | mobtek | hehehe <3 make mrproper |
05:06.21 | MechaRoey | congrats Alethes |
05:06.35 | Alethes | http://www.cellphones.ca/cell-phones/phone/324/ |
05:06.55 | mobtek | hmm might time this kernel compile and see how long it now takes after mrproper |
05:09.38 | MechaRoey | Alethes, mobtek: http://www.rockpapersaddam.com/one.html |
05:10.31 | mobtek | ahha MechaRoey seen the one from that '70s show with cockroach something and nuclear bomb? |
05:10.33 | Alethes | hahaha |
05:11.48 | MechaRoey | oh no? |
05:11.52 | MechaRoey | mobtek: no? |
05:11.55 | MechaRoey | Alethes: the saddam thing? :) |
05:12.23 | Alethes | yeah :) |
05:12.28 | MechaRoey | it's so creative |
05:12.37 | MechaRoey | who would've thought to come up with that sort of dialogue. |
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05:14.43 | mobtek | ahh cockroach hand nuclear bomb |
05:14.49 | mobtek | nuke beats hand |
05:14.54 | mobtek | hand beats cockroach |
05:15.00 | mobtek | cockroach beat nuke :P |
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05:17.21 | mobtek | 3 mins so far for kernel compile |
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05:21.47 | mobtek | not bad |
05:22.05 | mobtek | 7mins 43 secs for a kernel compile on this 2.8Ghz |
05:22.30 | halcyonCorsair | does anyone know how to find odd characters like this? |
05:22.35 | halcyonCorsair | ah crap...it won't show |
05:24.36 | mobtek | ok new kernel reboot |
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05:26.19 | Octane | what the hell is http cache clearner |
05:26.21 | Octane | cleaner* |
05:34.17 | MechaRoey | Octane: clears your http cache maybe? |
05:34.30 | Octane | ding ding ding |
05:34.42 | MechaRoey | Octane: you have cached images and pages in that cache. |
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05:35.05 | MechaRoey | good night :) |
05:35.08 | mobtek | heh weirdness again on 2.6.14 |
05:35.11 | Octane | cya |
05:35.11 | MechaRoey | eel |
05:35.12 | mobtek | hehe nite MechaRoey |
05:35.13 | MechaRoey | eek |
05:35.15 | MechaRoey | aye |
05:35.24 | MechaRoey | mobtek: btw, before I go, what was the weirdness all about |
05:35.37 | mobtek | no idea |
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05:35.41 | lc23 | hello |
05:35.43 | mobtek | konversation takes forever to start |
05:35.52 | mobtek | kmail becomes non-responsive |
05:35.56 | mobtek | kopete freezes |
05:36.00 | lc23 | any one here using 3.5 ver ? |
05:36.01 | halcyonCorsair | does anyone know of a tool to recode stuff to utff-8? |
05:36.08 | halcyonCorsair | lc23: me |
05:36.08 | mobtek | like wtf is in the 2.6.14 kernel that screws with kde? |
05:36.28 | lc23 | what flavor you have with it ? |
05:36.51 | mobtek | lc23: chicken :P |
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05:37.02 | lc23 | lol |
05:37.21 | lc23 | no i wanted to know if anyone with gentoo is using 3 |
05:37.26 | mobtek | ahh I am :) |
05:37.26 | lc23 | .5 |
05:37.47 | mobtek | works great with < kernel 2.6.14 :P |
05:38.01 | lc23 | how would i update from 3.4.1 to 3.5 |
05:38.09 | cam | hey all does anyone here know the difference between Karamba and Superkaramba and are the themes/widgets interchangable? |
05:38.12 | mobtek | MechaRoey: nothing in dmesg :) |
05:38.26 | mobtek | lc23: there is a thread on gentoo forums mate |
05:38.37 | lc23 | oh ok |
05:38.38 | mobtek | ask in #gentoo someone there will rememeber the url prolly :) |
05:39.24 | MechaRoey | mobtek: cat it as root. |
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05:39.41 | mobtek | MechaRoey: haha I am of course :) |
05:39.58 | mobtek | <-- linux user since '98 kekek |
05:40.15 | mobtek | MechaRoey: you can't cat my logs without being root hehe |
05:40.34 | MechaRoey | ahhh ok |
05:41.20 | mobtek | he MechaRoey I wish activision would release the source to Mechwarrior and Heavygear 2 so we could have linux native ports :) |
05:41.31 | mobtek | oh and counterstrike source as well hehe |
05:43.42 | MechaRoey | HEH |
05:43.42 | MechaRoey | ok |
05:43.55 | MechaRoey | (how about the source to nvidia's drivers) |
05:43.57 | MechaRoey | once and for all. |
05:44.06 | MechaRoey | this is such a stupid game nvidia'srunning. |
05:44.17 | MechaRoey | and what's more, |
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05:44.39 | MechaRoey | the fact that proprietary kernel modules are allowed sets up a dangerous precedent. |
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05:44.56 | MechaRoey | first nvidia refuses to open up. |
05:45.00 | MechaRoey | then Broadcomm. |
05:45.08 | systemofadown | what is size of a icon in the bar, 16x16? |
05:45.19 | Alethes | it's either allow the proprietary modules or no driver |
05:45.27 | systemofadown | nvidia can't open up,it would be sued |
05:45.34 | Alethes | I'd rather have what nvidia puts out than nv |
05:45.41 | MechaRoey | systemofadown: I've heard of that. I call BS. |
05:46.14 | systemofadown | actually nvidia has nda with developers of chips and other stuff on the boards |
05:46.49 | MechaRoey | systemofadown: sure. But then, why can't they GPL the portion of their nforce drivers that deals with a simple ethernet port? |
05:46.53 | MechaRoey | s/port/controller. |
05:47.48 | systemofadown | you have a point |
05:47.52 | MechaRoey | and in that case |
05:48.09 | MechaRoey | why not sufficiently abstract the NDA stuff away from the driver interface |
05:48.17 | MechaRoey | >in the hardware< |
05:48.31 | systemofadown | i was thinking more of the line of the video card line |
05:49.15 | systemofadown | my friend wants to buy a nforce board |
05:49.18 | MechaRoey | ok |
05:49.58 | systemofadown | its not really good to run linux on that |
05:50.03 | MechaRoey | aye. |
05:50.08 | MechaRoey | you know what... |
05:50.13 | MechaRoey | when that OpenGraphics card ships |
05:50.15 | MechaRoey | I'll buy it. |
05:50.31 | systemofadown | when is it going to ship? |
05:51.45 | MechaRoey | I don't know. |
05:51.52 | MechaRoey | they don't have a NEWS section on their wiki |
05:51.58 | MechaRoey | they don't have a STATUS section either. |
05:52.04 | MechaRoey | http://www.opengraphics.org |
05:52.14 | MechaRoey | anyhow, I'm going to sleep |
05:52.16 | MechaRoey | goo dnight :) |
05:52.20 | MechaRoey | and thanks for the convo |
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06:07.55 | can-o-worms | can someone tell me what gui will show me how much space is used on a local hard disk? |
06:08.43 | Aji-Dahaka | kdiskfree? |
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06:09.32 | raf256 | I selected shadows & transculency |
06:09.35 | raf256 | but they dont work |
06:09.36 | raf256 | any ideas? |
06:09.44 | Aji-Dahaka | raf256: did you restart X? |
06:09.54 | Aji-Dahaka | raf256: do you have composite enabled? |
06:10.06 | Aji-Dahaka | oGALAXYo: around? |
06:10.24 | systemofadown | if a pie binary has no text segment where is the code stored then? |
06:10.24 | raf256 | Aji-Dahaka: it would seem so |
06:10.39 | raf256 | $ xdpyinfo | grep -C 1 Composite |
06:10.39 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
06:10.39 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
06:10.39 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
06:11.19 | Aji-Dahaka | would it also seem that you restarted X since you enabled them? |
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06:15.03 | raf256 | Aji-Dahaka: no |
06:15.05 | raf256 | ok let me tru |
06:15.10 | Aji-Dahaka | wait ... |
06:15.20 | Aji-Dahaka | you could also see if manually starting kompmgr does the trick |
06:15.25 | Aji-Dahaka | either way /should/ work |
06:19.06 | can-o-worms | Aji-Dahaka: thanks man... |
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06:21.29 | Aji-Dahaka | can-o-worms: anytime |
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06:23.18 | bubar | merry christmas ! |
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06:33.50 | rickmaines | ne1 know of a good FREE gis for linux? |
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06:34.15 | rickmaines | i've tried grass ... too complex |
06:34.26 | rickmaines | tried qgis too ... seems easy enough |
06:35.30 | halcyonCorsair | where are servicemenus in konqueror and how do i get one to show up after copying the .desktop file to the correct place in my ~/.kde ? |
06:39.00 | systemofadown | how do i do multipule spaces in html again? |
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06:44.18 | bubar | <PROTECTED> |
06:44.31 | Aji-Dahaka | systemofadown: etc ... |
06:44.44 | Aji-Dahaka | systemofadown: stands for non-breaking space |
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06:47.18 | systemofadown | thanks been a a while since i've been a webmaster |
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07:06.40 | cam | does anyone use karamba? I'm looking for a nice clear theme...with clear widgets? |
07:06.52 | Aji-Dahaka | kde-look.org |
07:07.35 | cam | yeah I've checked that site :( |
07:08.12 | Aji-Dahaka | oodles there |
07:08.14 | cam | I was looking for more... |
07:08.26 | Aji-Dahaka | that's where most (?) of them are |
07:08.55 | cam | hmmm, I'm a bit tired, I need to recheck ... |
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07:11.00 | systemofadown | odd question here |
07:11.34 | systemofadown | in europe do companies drug test for pot? |
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07:49.02 | araizen | does anyone know how to keep kde from trying to automatically detect/mount a cd/dvd? |
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08:12.38 | Aji-Dahaka | araizen: disable the HAL thing? it should be a service in 3.5 |
08:16.24 | araizen | okay, so i got to peripherals->storage media in kcontrol, set 'do nothing' as teh autoaction for all the types of media, and uncheck all the boxes in the advanced tab, including 'enable hal backend', but when i restart kcontrol everything is as it was, and kde still pops up a box asking what I want to do when i insert a dvd |
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08:21.29 | Aji-Dahaka | bug report! |
08:21.32 | Aji-Dahaka | bugs.kde.org |
08:22.05 | araizen | okay, i've never done that before |
08:22.19 | araizen | do I just report it exactly as it's happening for me? |
08:22.43 | araizen | i mean, i can't guarantee that it will happen the same for anyone else, and know how things tend to go, it probably won |
08:22.45 | araizen | won't |
08:22.51 | araizen | and i don't want to waste anyone's time |
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08:27.48 | araizen | does anyone know if the kde media autodetect stuff might interfere with k3b/growisofs? |
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09:09.31 | a4tech | hi all |
09:09.44 | a4tech | i 've got a problem about KDE |
09:09.50 | a4tech | but i dont speak english well |
09:10.03 | a4tech | oncelikle turkce konusan varmý diye sorsam ? |
09:10.28 | a4tech | ok |
09:10.34 | a4tech | who can help me ? |
09:12.45 | araizen | a4tech: anyone here can try to help, just say your problem |
09:13.38 | a4tech | ok but i dont speak english well |
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09:30.44 | bLuEsNoW | why does kde support linux but needs a sepparate project for freebsd ? |
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09:41.52 | Mortis_kruul | Hi all! Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :) |
09:41.56 | bLuEsNoW | no. |
09:42.08 | a4tech | ? |
09:44.16 | B-Minus | hello all |
09:44.49 | B-Minus | is it possible to fix the desktop icons bugs without upgrading to 3.5 ? |
09:44.59 | B-Minus | the icons change in position everytime i logon |
09:45.21 | B-Minus | i dont want to compile 200 mb source for 1 bug |
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09:46.22 | bram85 | B-Minus: probably not |
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09:48.33 | B-Minus | :s |
09:48.50 | benJIman | B-Minus: you can use binary packages |
09:49.15 | B-Minus | ye but whats the use of gentoo then |
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10:00.28 | cam | question, I just installed karamba via yast...where is it located now? |
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10:13.44 | bram85 | B-Minus: that's the risk of using gentoo |
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10:58.06 | ataxic | merry xmas all, enjoy |
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11:15.49 | B-Minus | how is the binnary package kde called for gentoo ? |
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11:15.56 | safsf | hi |
11:19.07 | safsf | i have a lil problem here with double entries in the kde menu (on mandriva). they even occur on a freshly created user. many entries in the start menu just appear twice. any clue as to how to get rid of these? |
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11:25.25 | McScruff | you could go into the kmenu and remove them? |
11:25.51 | McScruff | right click on the kmenu and goto menu editer |
11:26.13 | safsf | (trying) |
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11:54.01 | Fletch | is there a way to auto-generate the kde menus? |
11:58.13 | bubar | update-menu ? |
11:58.45 | bubar | update-menus ? |
11:59.03 | bubar | update-m<TAB> ? |
12:00.03 | FuzzyTheBear | dang .. i tried a locate menu :) error major error .. |
12:02.49 | FuzzyTheBear | i found this thread to be of some help |
12:02.51 | FuzzyTheBear | http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2004-Aug/0042.html |
12:06.01 | FuzzyTheBear | suggestions about deleting the ~/.kde/tmp-hostname/ksycoca link, log out and let KDE |
12:06.01 | FuzzyTheBear | <PROTECTED> |
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12:06.45 | FuzzyTheBear | i got no such file btw. |
12:07.57 | FuzzyTheBear | ~/.kde/tmp-hostname/ksycoca < hostname needs to be your hostname. |
12:09.14 | B-Minus | anyone using digikam ? |
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12:39.46 | PhoenixMan | On my X Desktop, when running as any user beside root, Konsole displays an error: Font '-misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1' not found." |
12:40.24 | PhoenixMan | Also, WINE doesn't run; it can't display an error, while Xmessage is installed. |
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12:40.29 | srbaker | hey folks |
12:40.36 | srbaker | i'm looking for an anti rsi app for KDE. |
12:40.38 | PhoenixMan | This only happens if I'm logged in as anyone but root. Any help? |
12:40.42 | srbaker | the closer to Workrave it is, the better? |
12:41.21 | Hobbsee | srbaker: rsibreak |
12:41.26 | Hobbsee | not used it, but it looks interesting |
12:42.03 | PhoenixMan | uh |
12:42.40 | srbaker | i'm seriously considering doing a port of workrave to kde |
12:43.29 | PhoenixMan | On my X Desktop, when running as any user beside root, Konsole displays an error: Font '-misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1' not found." |
12:43.36 | PhoenixMan | Also, WINE doesn't run; it can't display an error, while Xmessage is installed. |
12:43.41 | PhoenixMan | This only happens if I'm logged in as anyone but root. Any help? |
12:44.38 | srbaker | brb |
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13:15.54 | anisX | hello! |
13:15.55 | anisX | :D |
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13:27.27 | _Vicker | hi, where is drag and drop of Menu items to Desktop set? Right now it's not working |
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13:30.53 | thiago | Vicker: what do you mean? |
13:31.39 | Vicker | hi thiago, ya i am able to say drag k3b from App menu to desktop to create a shortcut |
13:31.47 | Vicker | i am not able* |
13:32.00 | thiago | right |
13:32.09 | thiago | you're not allowed to drag anything from the K menu |
13:32.33 | Vicker | i used to do that before |
13:32.41 | Vicker | using 3.5 now |
13:32.58 | thiago | I don't remember it ever being possible |
13:33.14 | thiago | hmm... is your panel locked? |
13:33.20 | Vicker | yes |
13:33.27 | thiago | unlock it |
13:33.29 | B-Minus | can i download a kde-bin for gentoo ? |
13:33.32 | Vicker | ok |
13:33.34 | B-Minus | or source only :s |
13:33.40 | thiago | B-Minus: ask Gentoo people. |
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13:34.29 | Vicker | thiago: yep, that's it, i am able to drag now, thanks |
13:39.20 | B-Minus | i suppose i have to get out of kde if i want to upgrade from 3.4 to 3.5 ? |
13:39.28 | B-Minus | with gentoo |
13:40.16 | Vicker | B-Minus: not necessary though |
13:41.16 | Vicker | B-Minus: it will install in a new directory - /usr/kde/3.5/ and you will be given an option in DM to choose between 3.4 and 3.5 |
13:41.37 | B-Minus | i see |
13:42.19 | Vicker | B-Minus: you always get rid of 3.4 later |
13:42.24 | B-Minus | but all my 3.4 settings wont be inherited by 3.5 ? |
13:42.43 | Vicker | it will because ~/.kde is shared and common |
13:42.57 | B-Minus | oh |
13:43.34 | Vicker | before they used to have ~/.kde3.1 and ~/.kde3.2 and so on, now they have only .kde |
13:43.55 | B-Minus | but all programs from 3.4 will they be overwriten by the new ones |
13:43.58 | B-Minus | or even that not |
13:44.21 | Vicker | no, they won't be overwritten |
13:44.46 | Vicker | you gotta unmerge them manually, or maybe there is simpler way to remove them which i don't know |
13:44.49 | B-Minus | so there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong |
13:44.57 | Vicker | basically, yes |
13:45.48 | B-Minus | but that also means |
13:45.55 | B-Minus | ive downloaded a lot of new kde progs |
13:46.01 | B-Minus | i wont see them in 3.5 |
13:46.32 | Vicker | you mean like kaffeine, k3b, etc., ? |
13:46.43 | B-Minus | ye like digikam, some chat progs etc |
13:46.48 | B-Minus | ftp progs |
13:47.00 | Vicker | they are all kde based ? |
13:47.00 | B-Minus | kopete |
13:47.06 | B-Minus | hmm not all i guess |
13:47.10 | B-Minus | xchat |
13:47.24 | B-Minus | but many are |
13:47.34 | Vicker | i guess you will be able to see them in 3.5 as well |
13:47.40 | Vicker | not sure though |
13:48.07 | Vicker | but kde apps would be a be still linked to kde-3.4, you need to recompile them in 3.5 |
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13:49.29 | B-Minus | ic |
13:49.48 | barosl | is there kicker applet to change cpu frequency? what name? |
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13:51.59 | B-Minus | but |
13:52.03 | B-Minus | if i just want the new kopete |
13:52.04 | B-Minus | i do |
13:52.08 | B-Minus | tommylinux ~ # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv kopete |
13:52.16 | B-Minus | but its gonna download some 3.5 stuff as well |
13:52.29 | B-Minus | thats also gonna be in /etc/kde3.5/ ? |
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14:00.24 | cee | what package have the camera protocol ioslave? |
14:05.23 | Vicker | B-Minus: i think you are using split builds |
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14:05.53 | Vicker | B-Minus: i don't know how it works in split builds, i use kopete as well, but it's part of kdenetwork |
14:06.03 | B-Minus | ok |
14:06.17 | Vicker | you might try asking this in gentoo |
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15:38.29 | B-Minus | is there some manual to upgrade from 3.4 to 3.5 ? |
15:39.37 | hydrogen | no real need |
15:44.20 | B-Minus | hmm |
15:44.39 | B-Minus | has anyone upgraded from 3.4 to 3.5 in gentoo here ? |
15:44.42 | SAngeli | Hi, I run vmware workstation and have dual boot pc with WinXP Home and gentoo. Is it possible to avoid installing WinXP Home again and use the existing partition to dump it into VMWare workstation? Perhaps, taking an image with either dd or with Norton Ghost from DOS? Any advice? |
15:44.54 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: I did a while back, it was pretty easyish |
15:45.12 | B-Minus | Aji-Dahaka: did you lose any progs or configurations or anything ? |
15:45.34 | B-Minus | Aji-Dahaka: i installed several kde progs, am i gonna have to install them again ? |
15:46.01 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: went cleanly for me. What "kde progs" do you mean? |
15:46.14 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: I reinstalled all of kde and all that depended on it |
15:46.16 | B-Minus | hmm several ftp progs |
15:46.23 | B-Minus | hmmz |
15:46.27 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: ah, it was just emerge -u for me |
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15:49.27 | B-Minus | Aji-Dahaka: you mean after the emerge kde ?. |
15:50.00 | B-Minus | you just did emerge -u after ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" kde ? |
15:50.16 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: well, yeah, a few weeks after I had initially emerged kde 3.4, they put kde 3.5 in portage, I just emerge -u worlded |
15:50.33 | Aji-Dahaka | well, I had te packages.unmask to get kde 3.5 available |
15:50.36 | Aji-Dahaka | but yeah, essentially |
15:50.46 | B-Minus | ic |
15:51.00 | B-Minus | and can you still choose too boot 3.4 ? |
15:51.19 | Aji-Dahaka | I could on my system, yeah |
15:51.32 | Aji-Dahaka | check and see if it installs in a new slot or not |
15:51.45 | hydrogen | 3.5 installs in a new slot |
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15:51.55 | SMiLeaf | hum de dum de do :/ ... stupid ati drivers.. I just want opengl screensavers T.T |
15:52.03 | B-Minus | hmm |
15:52.14 | B-Minus | but im gonna have to configure too much |
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15:52.18 | B-Minus | like my theme etc |
15:52.25 | Aji-Dahaka | I'v since stopped playing with linux so I'm not sure of its current state :) |
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15:52.51 | B-Minus | how long is it gonna take to emerge the new kde |
15:53.04 | SMiLeaf | B-Minus: depends on your system |
15:53.07 | B-Minus | with +enablekdefinal or something |
15:53.07 | Aji-Dahaka | a while |
15:53.11 | Aji-Dahaka | get a coke or something |
15:53.18 | B-Minus | ye kde 3.4 took 9 hours |
15:53.21 | Aji-Dahaka | and the LoTR video series |
15:53.27 | Aji-Dahaka | probably about the same as 3.4 |
15:53.28 | SMiLeaf | a coke won't last that long :) |
15:53.33 | B-Minus | oh |
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15:53.47 | B-Minus | well 3.5 doesnt give THAT much new stuff ill just wait for 4.0 |
15:53.55 | B-Minus | the only thing i want is the new kopete |
15:54.05 | Aji-Dahaka | umm ... 4.0 is really a long ways off |
15:54.09 | Aji-Dahaka | > 1 year, I think |
15:54.14 | SMiLeaf | at least.. lol |
15:54.15 | B-Minus | but that one is gonna download the 3.5 kde base |
15:54.41 | Aji-Dahaka | SMiLeaf: any idea when 3.5.1 is coming? |
15:54.46 | Aji-Dahaka | SMiLeaf: gotta be soon, huh? |
15:54.59 | SMiLeaf | Aji-Dahaka: schedule says mid January |
15:55.09 | B-Minus | tommylinux ~ # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv kopete |
15:55.13 | Aji-Dahaka | 3 more weeks, then? |
15:55.23 | B-Minus | [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.0-r1 -acl +alsa +arts +cups -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama -zeroconf 15,019 kB |
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15:55.26 | SMiLeaf | Aji-Dahaka: ya |
15:55.27 | B-Minus | [ebuild N ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.0 +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas -sametime +ssl -xinerama +xmms 7,278 kB |
15:55.30 | B-Minus | so |
15:55.32 | B-Minus | whats gonna happen here |
15:55.43 | B-Minus | is he gonna delete my 3.4 kde base ? |
15:55.45 | hydrogen | It's gonna upgrade kopete |
15:55.49 | B-Minus | ye i know |
15:55.55 | hydrogen | and uhh |
15:55.55 | B-Minus | but whats gonna happen with kkde base |
15:56.00 | hydrogen | don't use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on commandline |
15:56.01 | hydrogen | nothing |
15:56.10 | SMiLeaf | B-Minus: I'd just upgrade it all. |
15:56.23 | Aji-Dahaka | upgrading it all is a better idea |
15:56.23 | B-Minus | SMiLeaf: ye but i dont have 9 hours to compile |
15:56.36 | SMiLeaf | B-Minus: you don't have to do it all at once :) |
15:56.37 | Aji-Dahaka | kde isn't all thet tested with mix-matched versions |
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15:57.56 | B-Minus | i only want 1 thing of kde 3.5 |
15:58.12 | B-Minus | and ive to configure my whole system for it |
15:58.13 | B-Minus | :s |
15:58.19 | B-Minus | ill just wait |
15:58.26 | Aji-Dahaka | alright ... as you wish |
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16:00.19 | B-Minus | also it sucks that in 3.4 the desktop icons are bugged :( |
16:00.30 | B-Minus | each time on reboot they are on another place |
16:00.38 | Gentle | same on 3.5 |
16:00.42 | B-Minus | wtf |
16:00.48 | B-Minus | so that bug is still not fixed ? |
16:01.17 | Gentle | I don't really think it's a bug, it's more an incompatibility with xinerama (at least for me) |
16:02.03 | Aji-Dahaka | icons on the desktop? |
16:02.07 | Aji-Dahaka | what a funny idea |
16:02.38 | B-Minus | Aji-Dahaka: ye its not funny to start everything from console |
16:02.47 | B-Minus | or kde menu |
16:02.57 | B-Minus | i have all my windows drive on desktop so its easy to mount etc |
16:03.05 | Aji-Dahaka | B-Minus: quicklaunch + baghira starter, what else would I nead? |
16:03.10 | Aji-Dahaka | need* |
16:03.22 | B-Minus | i have no idea what you are talking about |
16:03.23 | B-Minus | :p |
16:03.29 | Aji-Dahaka | of course quicklaunch and terminal are always available, too |
16:03.29 | B-Minus | so im gonna check it out |
16:03.34 | Aji-Dahaka | I'm not an icon person |
16:03.41 | B-Minus | any url of that ? |
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16:03.45 | Aji-Dahaka | which? |
16:03.55 | Aji-Dahaka | baghira? I'm sure there is ... |
16:04.03 | Aji-Dahaka | quicklaunch is just part of kicker |
16:04.31 | B-Minus | you mean the run command ? |
16:04.42 | B-Minus | !google baghira |
16:05.05 | Aji-Dahaka | the quicklaunch is called quicklaunch ... it's a bit like the icons you can put on the kicker |
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16:05.11 | harryguy | hea room |
16:06.05 | harryguy | i'm trying to learn how to use dcop in c, and there is something i don't understand: if a dcop call returns a value how to retrive it |
16:06.48 | oGALAXYo | thats magic :) |
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16:07.23 | harryguy | magic is olny an illusion :) |
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16:09.05 | harryguy | no chance you know the method behind the trick?> |
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16:11.27 | madpenguin8 | harryguy: you might be better off asking in #kde-devel |
16:11.39 | harryguy | ok |
16:11.40 | harryguy | thanks |
16:13.47 | harryguy | gee dosn't anybody hang on irc at 8:00 on a sunday morning which happens to be chrismass |
16:14.11 | Aji-Dahaka | to be sure |
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16:19.49 | sam^ | hi |
16:20.32 | harryguy | hi |
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16:28.46 | _linus | hello |
16:29.18 | B-Minus | hmm nice those applet applets |
16:29.18 | B-Minus | :p |
16:29.23 | B-Minus | can i download some more ? |
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16:32.23 | Kaffien | hello i have recently upgraded my laptop to kde 3.5 since then whenever i power on my laptop and try to bring my wireless online the kernel panics |
16:32.29 | Kaffien | any ideas? |
16:33.50 | benJIman | sounds rather unrelated to kde |
16:33.56 | oGALAXYo | yep... |
16:33.56 | Kaffien | i know that |
16:34.01 | oGALAXYo | what distro ? |
16:34.06 | Kaffien | but im letting you know exactly when it occurred |
16:34.14 | Kaffien | gentoo 2005.1 |
16:34.18 | oGALAXYo | thats why |
16:34.26 | Kaffien | kernel 2.6.13-r |
16:34.27 | oGALAXYo | use a distribution |
16:34.34 | oGALAXYo | with stable kernels |
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16:34.40 | benJIman | oGALAXYo: ask for help in gentoo channel |
16:34.44 | benJIman | *kaffeine |
16:35.03 | Kaffien | lol the kernel has not changed at all though .... |
16:35.09 | oGALAXYo | look |
16:35.15 | oGALAXYo | if the kernel crashes then its a kernel issue |
16:35.24 | oGALAXYo | you speak with someone who is part of the kernel maintainers. |
16:35.30 | oGALAXYo | <-- me in this case |
16:35.39 | oGALAXYo | userland shit shouldnt crash the kernel |
16:35.46 | Julianyus | hi |
16:36.08 | Kaffien | where can i usually find you then galaxy? |
16:36.54 | oGALAXYo | Kaffien: tie a nullmodem cable to your computer (together with another one) and then catch the oops through a terminal program such as minicom.. and then sent the bug to the lkml |
16:37.35 | Kaffien | *sigh* i am useing a craptop with no serial port |
16:37.37 | oGALAXYo | Kaffien: i maintain the dc395x scsi driver. |
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16:38.46 | oGALAXYo | Kaffien: get a reliable distribution (a binary one) and install that one on your laptop. |
16:39.10 | oGALAXYo | when you boot kde and it triggers your wlan settings which then triggers the broken code in the kernel then its clear that it crashes. |
16:39.15 | Kaffien | most dont support my hardware and up until now gentoo has been the most reliable distro i have used |
16:39.19 | oGALAXYo | as long as its not triggered through anything it wont be crashing. |
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16:39.31 | oGALAXYo | obviously not reliable enough in this case. |
16:39.44 | Kaffien | its an rt2500 driver issue hold on a sec |
16:40.17 | oGALAXYo | please report to #gentoo |
16:40.20 | Kaffien | when a driver crashes within an interrupt handler, usually because it tried to access a null pointer within the interrupt handler. |
16:40.32 | oGALAXYo | please report to #gentoo |
16:40.32 | Kaffien | essentially what happens |
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16:40.44 | oGALAXYo | thanks |
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16:41.41 | labret | How do I re-generate the menus? |
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16:50.16 | anisX | hoho.. |
16:50.17 | anisX | mery XMAS |
16:50.46 | B-Minus | hello |
16:51.08 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys i installed kde from source. i have installed arts kdelibs and kdebase. i should be able to start kde now right? |
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16:52.34 | oGALAXYo | LinuxNIT-laptop: yes |
16:52.51 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok i use gdm how do i get kde to show up in gdm? |
16:53.05 | oGALAXYo | use kdm |
16:53.27 | LinuxNIT-laptop | why cant i use gdm? |
16:53.37 | oGALAXYo | you can use it. |
16:53.38 | LinuxNIT-laptop | i kinda like it :) |
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16:53.48 | oGALAXYo | but i dont know what you need to change to have it accept kde |
16:53.53 | LinuxNIT-laptop | oh |
16:53.57 | oGALAXYo | i think you need to write some kde.desktop script file for it. |
16:54.07 | oGALAXYo | and have it put into the sessions dir of gdm |
16:54.12 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok how do i startd kde from the command line with startx? |
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16:54.31 | oGALAXYo | startkde |
16:54.34 | LinuxNIT-laptop | lol |
16:54.35 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok |
16:54.36 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks |
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16:54.56 | oGALAXYo | could be kdestart or startkde |
16:54.58 | oGALAXYo | one of the two |
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16:55.36 | LinuxNIT-laptop | uh oh |
16:55.46 | LinuxNIT-laptop | niether of those show up |
16:55.49 | LinuxNIT-laptop | crap |
16:56.13 | oGALAXYo | aehm of course you need to export paths and libprefixes first |
16:56.23 | oGALAXYo | pointing to the prefix where you installed kde. |
16:57.42 | LinuxNIT-laptop | how wouldi do that? or is there a howto i should read |
16:58.03 | oGALAXYo | why do you compile KDE then if you dont exactly know what to do ? |
16:58.20 | oGALAXYo | a binary distribution gives less pain. |
16:58.34 | LinuxNIT-laptop | cause im using debian sarge and kde is way outta date |
16:58.53 | oGALAXYo | ok lemme give you an idea.. |
16:59.22 | LinuxNIT-laptop | and i know there are debian sid sources but i didnt want to have to fix stuf all the time |
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16:59.31 | oGALAXYo | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/28yhC346.html |
16:59.37 | oGALAXYo | thats how my .xinitrc looks |
16:59.43 | LinuxNIT-laptop | k |
16:59.47 | oGALAXYo | you probably need to make it point to the prefix you used to install kde. |
16:59.47 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks |
17:00.16 | LinuxNIT-laptop | much appreciated |
17:00.26 | oGALAXYo | does it work ? |
17:00.47 | LinuxNIT-laptop | dunno yet |
17:00.59 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
17:01.11 | oGALAXYo | in case you installed it in /opt/kde3.5 you need to alter it |
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17:02.23 | SAngeli | I learned that it is possible with this command "dd if=/dev/hd[abc][123] of=file.image" to take an image of an entire partition all in one file. Now, how to restore it back? |
17:03.01 | benJIman | if = input file, of = output file |
17:03.11 | SMiLeaf | SAngeli: the same way only in reverse? |
17:03.31 | oGALAXYo | dd if=file.image of=/dev/hda |
17:03.33 | SAngeli | could be |
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17:04.00 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: but it would be better to 'tar xfjv /tmp/yoursystem.tar.bz2 /' your system |
17:04.05 | oGALAXYo | rather than using DD |
17:04.09 | oGALAXYo | its also a smaller file at the end. |
17:04.22 | SAngeli | is it? I do not know anything about dd |
17:04.24 | oGALAXYo | in case you change HD or partitions one day |
17:04.33 | oGALAXYo | dd only dumps a hd.. same site |
17:04.35 | oGALAXYo | size |
17:04.39 | SAngeli | I was adviced to use dd for taking an image of an entire partition |
17:04.41 | oGALAXYo | tar.bz2 crunches the stuff too. |
17:04.42 | SAngeli | please advice... |
17:04.49 | oGALAXYo | ok both versions work |
17:04.59 | oGALAXYo | one makes an image.. the other crunches and archives all files |
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17:05.09 | oGALAXYo | personally i use tar.bz2 for this stuff.. |
17:05.11 | flosoft | hey |
17:05.30 | flosoft | what do I need to set up on a server to remote connect with the KDE Remote Login ? is it nx-server? |
17:05.37 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: saying I wish to use dd, what would the command be to resotre an image? |
17:05.49 | oGALAXYo | oGALAXYo dd if=file.image of=/dev/hda |
17:05.54 | oGALAXYo | or hda1 |
17:05.55 | oGALAXYo | or hda2 |
17:05.56 | SAngeli | thks |
17:05.56 | oGALAXYo | etc. |
17:06.19 | oGALAXYo | but dont execute that on the same disk |
17:06.19 | SAngeli | do I have to rm -R *.* in the /dev/hda before I proceed? |
17:06.23 | oGALAXYo | no |
17:06.31 | SMiLeaf | better and safer to use tar IMO. |
17:06.37 | oGALAXYo | yep |
17:07.11 | SAngeli | SMiLeaf: could you please elaborate? |
17:07.16 | flosoft | what do I need to set up on a server to remote connect with the KDE Remote Login ? is it nx-server? |
17:07.26 | oGALAXYo | dd is accessing the raw diskdrive... writing back sectors. |
17:07.42 | oGALAXYo | tar is tar'ing up the entire harddisk (only files directories links etc) |
17:07.46 | oGALAXYo | which is far better. |
17:07.53 | SMiLeaf | SAngeli: if you use dd... not only do you have this HUGE file.. but it also could be a problem restoring it later if you modify the partition or get another HD. |
17:07.57 | oGALAXYo | better in case you change the harddisk, in case you change filesystem etc. |
17:08.11 | SAngeli | And what about permissions? |
17:08.27 | SMiLeaf | SAngeli: permissions are fine if you use the -p option |
17:08.30 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: tar takes care for it.. |
17:08.41 | SMiLeaf | when extracting that is. |
17:08.42 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: tar is exactly written for doing exactly what you ask for. |
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17:08.59 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: dd is like norton ghost on windows |
17:09.05 | SAngeli | Could you please show me the proper tar command to 1) create an image file of an entire partition 2) how to restore it back? |
17:09.10 | SAngeli | I see |
17:09.12 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: tar is like the backup program from microsoft coming with windows. |
17:09.20 | SAngeli | I see |
17:09.40 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: tar cfjv <path to backupfile/filename.tar.bz2 / |
17:09.44 | Hedeo | man tar |
17:09.49 | SAngeli | I know man tar |
17:09.50 | oGALAXYo | where the last / says i want to tar all |
17:10.02 | oGALAXYo | all starting from root point |
17:10.04 | flosoft | what do I need to set up on a server to remote connect with the KDE Remote Login ? is it nx-server? |
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17:10.29 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: try ths small example "tar cfjv /tmp/test.tar.bz2 /bin" as root |
17:10.54 | SMiLeaf | oGALAXYo: doesn't the f have to be last? :S |
17:10.56 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: and look the file size.. then use something like midnight commander and click on the file (select it and press enter) you see that it only archived the files. |
17:11.00 | oGALAXYo | SMiLeaf: no |
17:11.12 | SMiLeaf | oGALAXYo: ah.. I've always ran into trouble putting it other places |
17:11.18 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: like "tar cfjv /home/user1/backup.img.tar.bz2 /dev/hda1/" |
17:11.23 | oGALAXYo | SMiLeaf: depends on the implementation |
17:11.28 | SMiLeaf | wants to name it things like v and j :) |
17:11.29 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: no... that doesnt work |
17:11.41 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: you tar FILES not a whole harddisk |
17:11.48 | oGALAXYo | you can tar harddisks as well. |
17:11.53 | oGALAXYo | but its better to archive the files. |
17:12.09 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: try my example |
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17:12.47 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: tar c=crate f=file j=crunch bz2 v=verbose acts like LHA, ZIP, RAR |
17:13.00 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: taking all the files into account, dirs, permission, time, etc. |
17:13.17 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: one sec I am on the phone, please ... sorry |
17:13.23 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: you can also have it tar the whole partition if you want its requiring a bit different commandset then |
17:13.25 | SMiLeaf | tar --exclude=/usr/portage --exclude=/var/tmp -jlpcf `uname -n`-`date +"%Y%m%d"`.tar.bz2 /{bin,boot,etc,initrd,lib,opt,sbin,usr,var} |
17:13.25 | oGALAXYo | SAngeli: ok |
17:13.31 | SMiLeaf | that's my full backup command :) |
17:13.32 | eduedix | hi |
17:13.40 | oGALAXYo | SMiLeaf: heh i have a smaller one :) |
17:13.57 | oGALAXYo | SMiLeaf: i copy all the entire partiton to /.tmp and tar the .tmp dir up :) |
17:14.11 | oGALAXYo | oh and why do you use a initrd ? |
17:14.46 | SMiLeaf | oGALAXYo: it was in the / so I included being I'm on a laptop and do use an initrd for my bootsplash |
17:14.59 | oGALAXYo | i see. |
17:15.26 | SMiLeaf | actually I can remove that being I don't see it there anymore.. that command is quite old. |
17:15.31 | flosoft | what do I need to set up on a server to remote connect with the KDE Remote Login ? is it nx-server? |
17:15.53 | oGALAXYo | flosoft: try activating xmdc or hows it called in kdmrc |
17:16.10 | oGALAXYo | flosoft: that way you can connect your remote with another X server X -query <ip> |
17:16.36 | FuzzyTheBear | command line login .. ewwwwww ; ) |
17:17.45 | flosoft | xmdc? |
17:17.50 | flosoft | how? where? |
17:18.03 | B-Minus | is it possible to download kicker applets somewhere ? |
17:18.05 | B-Minus | cant find any |
17:18.17 | SMiLeaf | fuzzy wuzzy was a bear.. fuzzy wuzzy had no hair.. fuzzy wuzzy wasn't fuzzy was he? |
17:19.36 | SMiLeaf | :'( |
17:19.49 | FuzzyTheBear | :)) Hi SMLeaf merry christmas :) |
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17:20.05 | SMiLeaf | :) .. merry christmas to you also! |
17:20.24 | flosoft | oGALAXYo: I installed libxdmcp6 |
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17:21.48 | SMiLeaf | flosoft: google is your friend ;) ... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XDMCP |
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17:22.21 | flosoft | SMiLeaf: but is xdmcp that connection protocol that u can put as remote logon in KDM= |
17:22.22 | flosoft | ??? |
17:22.45 | LinuxNIT-laptop | oGALAXYo, i got kde to start i installed it to the default /usr/local/kde/bin and edited my .xsession file to start kde |
17:22.59 | LinuxNIT-laptop | oGALAXYo, i appreciate the help thank you very much |
17:23.08 | SMiLeaf | flosoft: with that you can remote login.. no clue how to use kdm to init the remote login tho. |
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17:23.51 | flosoft | SMiLeaf ... u know there is the option ALT+R or so ... if you go to menu ... there is Remote Login |
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17:25.25 | SMiLeaf | flosoft: never used it :) |
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17:33.41 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: Here I am back |
17:33.53 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: are you there? |
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17:39.02 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys i just got done installin kde from source. i have arts kdelibs and kde base installed. in the other source folders such as kdemultimedia can i just instal certain parts like just noatun and kmix but not the others? |
17:39.34 | SMiLeaf | LinuxNIT-laptop: you'd be correct :) |
17:40.04 | SMiLeaf | just do a configure.. then cd into each you want make && make install |
17:40.07 | LinuxNIT-laptop | so do i do ./configure in the kdemultimedia dir the say cd into kmix and do make then make install? |
17:40.10 | LinuxNIT-laptop | lol |
17:40.11 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok |
17:40.16 | LinuxNIT-laptop | cooolness |
17:40.54 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks SMiLeaf |
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17:44.48 | emiraga | how to make start menu in kde look like an xp start menu? (i saw on some screenshoots) |
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17:45.15 | SMiLeaf | emiraga: those were not screenshots but rather well drawn/modified ones |
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17:45.38 | emiraga | SMiLeaf: moment |
17:45.40 | neopc | alguem sabe como eu faço para me conectar por outro servidor |
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17:46.02 | fsu | does kitchensync include any support for nokia-phones(syncml)? |
17:46.13 | Rafael | alguem sabe como eu faço para me conectar por outro servidor |
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17:46.48 | emiraga | SMiLeaf: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Image:Dec-MyWorld.jpg |
17:48.28 | fsu | emiraga: that's kbfx or something.. try look it from kde-look or kde-apps |
17:48.56 | SMiLeaf | Oh the button |
17:49.12 | SMiLeaf | yah.. kbfx.. or there is also a patch for 3.4. |
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17:49.50 | emiraga | thanks :) |
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17:51.12 | B-Minus | how do you like my desktop now :p http://users.skynet.be/minus/snapshot2.png |
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17:52.32 | oGALAXYo | http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2gs.jpg |
17:52.34 | oGALAXYo | thats my |
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17:53.27 | B-Minus | gnome :( |
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17:53.54 | SAngeli | oGALAXYo: I am back. Can we resume our previous conversation? |
17:54.36 | MechaRoey | oGALAXYo: it's interesting how you're so into KDE yet you use GNOME for the desktop |
17:55.25 | oGALAXYo | MechaRoey: yeah i suck :) |
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17:55.41 | EvilGuru | hi |
17:55.57 | oGALAXYo | MechaRoey: http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot16jn.png thats better :) |
17:56.19 | SMiLeaf | http://smileaf.org/images/desktop-20051225.png |
17:56.41 | oGALAXYo | forbidden |
17:56.57 | SMiLeaf | eh? .. oops.. lol |
17:57.12 | SMiLeaf | dark default permissions |
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17:57.30 | SMiLeaf | Ok |
17:57.34 | SMiLeaf | now try |
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17:59.36 | B-Minus | oGALAXYo: you have an amiga ? |
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18:00.36 | oGALAXYo | B-Minus: i had a few, sold all of them and now sit on a pegasos 2 |
18:00.43 | B-Minus | cool |
18:00.48 | B-Minus | i was also an amiga freak |
18:00.51 | B-Minus | too bad it all ended :( |
18:01.06 | oGALAXYo | well it hasn't ended actually. |
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18:01.15 | oGALAXYo | but the current amiga community is full of sick people. |
18:01.29 | B-Minus | didnt know there still was a community |
18:01.29 | nuxil | hello people.. why cant i send my webcam to my friends on windows "msn" they dont get any picture.. but if i send my webcam to another kopete it shows.. i can recive fine tho.. anyone got an idea why its like this? |
18:01.30 | B-Minus | hehe |
18:01.37 | magyar | Every time i start KDE i get this error message: "Sound server fatal error:cpu overload, aborting" (SID amd64, KDE 3.4.3) |
18:01.56 | B-Minus | you also played games ? |
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18:02.30 | oGALAXYo | http://www.gofromiel.com/feelin/screens.php?show=images/screens/hi/20050822 http://www.gofromiel.com/feelin/screens.php?show=images/people/hi/20058017_damir_crystal http://www.gofromiel.com/feelin/screens.php?show=images/people/hi/20050212 |
18:02.39 | oGALAXYo | B-Minus: amiga is still quite alive. |
18:02.47 | B-Minus | hmm really |
18:02.50 | oGALAXYo | B-Minus: continuing in AROS, MorphOS and AmigaOS4 |
18:03.04 | B-Minus | i was in the scene from 90 till 98 or something |
18:03.14 | oGALAXYo | AROS is open source amiga OS clone.. but the most advanced oneas are MorphOS and AmigaOS4 for powerpc machines. |
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18:03.22 | B-Minus | with amiga 500/1200 A CD 32 and A4000 |
18:03.32 | B-Minus | but then they collapsed or something |
18:04.34 | B-Minus | hmm those screens want to make me install winuae :p |
18:04.40 | B-Minus | is that available on linux |
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18:07.50 | eduedix | hi |
18:08.12 | eduedix | are we able to listen to online radio on amarok ? |
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18:13.37 | Flosoft | hey |
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18:15.49 | r3tex | what do i use so i can burn an .avi file in K3B ? |
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18:15.59 | r3tex | i need to convert it to mpg2, what tool do i use? |
18:16.03 | Flosoft | I tried XDMCP ... it keeps kicking me back to my own login |
18:16.08 | Flosoft | does this need the same X |
18:17.08 | SMiLeaf | r3tex: your wanting to make a VCD I take it? |
18:18.06 | r3tex | SMiLeaf: sure, SVCD or something that my gf's dad can play on his DVD player |
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18:28.42 | SMiLeaf | r3tex: well I'm finding mpeg->avi converters ;) |
18:29.07 | bUscher-g2 | use ffmpeg =) |
18:29.13 | r3tex | heh :P i find some dodgy gtk apps |
18:29.34 | r3tex | bUscher-g2: i would but it's for my g/f:s dad |
18:29.46 | r3tex | gf = guardian force |
18:29.48 | r3tex | jk |
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18:39.08 | SAngeli | SMiLeaf: based on your backup tar line, I tried this and it seems to work. can you please tell me if this is correct? "tar -jlpcf `uname -n`-`date +"%Y%m%d"`.tar.bz2 /dev/sda1" |
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18:41.35 | francesco | Hello, how can I obtain a menu bar like the one here: http://digilander.libero.it/zzzdgl0/scrinsciot2ua.png ? |
18:41.55 | francesco | Pleaaaaaase! |
18:42.39 | SAngeli | SMiLeaf: also, when I wish to reverse back the entire partition, 1) do I first have to rm *.* from /dev/sda1 ? 2) what would the tar command be to restore all back? Please... |
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18:47.42 | |Steffi| | Hello! Anybody here who can help me with ivman? i have newest version of dbus, hal, udev and ivman, but automount doesn't work. Manual mount works fine... |
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18:52.16 | Blissex | |Steffi|: you have dug yourself in pretty deep :-) |
18:52.41 | |Steffi| | why? |
18:52.53 | Blissex | SAngeli: what's «reverse back the entire partition»? |
18:53.12 | Blissex | |Steffi|: thats a pile of misdesigned, rube-goldeberg style stuff. |
18:53.31 | |Steffi| | so what can i do? |
18:54.06 | firephoto | |Steffi|: you don't really need ivman, make sure you have pmount though. |
18:54.18 | |Steffi| | hmmm |
18:54.22 | Blissex | |Steffi|: abjure the temptations of the devil called GKH and reflect on the pointlessness of automouting. And its dangers. |
18:54.47 | firephoto | if you need ivman for something special, make sure it's running as root as the rc service and as user when kde starts. |
18:55.38 | |Steffi| | well sometimes i don't use KDE but poor console...so automount would be nice |
18:55.45 | |Steffi| | so i thought of ivman |
18:55.59 | firephoto | what kde version |Steffi| ? |
18:56.06 | |Steffi| | 3.5 |
18:56.19 | |Steffi| | on gentoo |
18:56.26 | firephoto | it's probably just the ivman running as root but not as user. start it up as user and you should be ok. |
18:56.41 | firephoto | make sure you're in the plugdev group too in /etc/group |
18:57.09 | |Steffi| | my user is in plugdev group and i start the init script in /etc/init.d/ivman |
18:57.15 | |Steffi| | at boot.... |
18:57.26 | firephoto | right... you need to run ivman again as your user when kde starts if you use ivman |
18:57.28 | EvilGuru | how do I set the default x resolution? |
18:57.44 | firephoto | the user ivman does the mounting/umounting |
18:58.34 | |Steffi| | yes but it doesn't create the directories in /media where the mounted devices should got to |
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18:59.04 | Blissex | EvilGuru: in the X cconfig file, in the 'Screen' section, the first one in each list is the default. |
18:59.05 | SAngeli | Blissex: once I have an entire partition backed up in one file, if I decide that I wish to erase the entire partition and untar the file I created so I can restore the OS as before what tar command would I use and would I need to rm *.* on before? |
18:59.15 | EvilGuru | thanks, as currently it is far too hight |
18:59.23 | Blissex | SAngeli: no, just 'mkfs' it again. |
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18:59.38 | SAngeli | Blissex: so, just format it again, right? |
19:00.03 | Blissex | SAngeli: to restore usually something like 'tar -xS -p -z -f ....' |
19:00.03 | sg313 | Hi everyone. And a somewhat late merry Xmas to you all! How can i change the handling of irc:// protocol, e.g. the program that konqueror starts if such a url is entered? |
19:00.08 | firephoto | |Steffi|: are your udev dbus hal pmount ivman version the same as http://sh.nu/p/869 ? |
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19:01.48 | SAngeli | Blissex: and what about the tar command? To backup I use "tar -jlpcf" to restore would it be "tar -jlpxf"? |
19:02.08 | Blissex | SAngeli: more or less yes. |
19:02.28 | SAngeli | Blissex: basically the same as before but replace "c" with "x" |
19:03.30 | |Steffi| | firephoto..yes but dbus is r1 not r2 |
19:03.42 | Blissex | SAngeli: not necessarily, but you specified 'p' in creating, which is pointless, but is needed in restoring. |
19:03.58 | SAngeli | thks |
19:04.04 | firephoto | |Steffi|: thats fine.. did you emerge kdebase or kdebase-kioslaves after those were updated (if they were) |
19:04.48 | |Steffi| | hmmm no |
19:05.58 | |Steffi| | well not long ago i didn't update my whole system with gentoo |
19:06.08 | |Steffi| | sorry ..i DID update... |
19:06.33 | |Steffi| | so kdebaseand kioslaves will have been updated there |
19:06.57 | firephoto | you do have a /media dir right? |
19:07.02 | |Steffi| | yes |
19:07.15 | firephoto | what kind of media are you trying to detect/automount ? |
19:07.21 | |Steffi| | permissions are root/root |
19:07.31 | |Steffi| | digital camera |
19:07.44 | firephoto | what kind of camera ? |
19:07.52 | |Steffi| | an olympus c765 |
19:08.06 | |Steffi| | it comes up with a mass storage device |
19:08.32 | |Steffi| | mount works with mount /dev/sda1 /media/cam -t vfat fine |
19:08.36 | firephoto | you don't have any fstab related entries for it do you ? |
19:08.58 | |Steffi| | no... |
19:09.25 | firephoto | so when you plug the camera in it doesn't show up in media:/ ? |
19:09.43 | |Steffi| | no...:-( |
19:10.18 | firephoto | stop /etc/init.d/ivman and kill any user instance of ivman if you have one running and try it again. |
19:10.20 | Blissex | sg313: that would be the IRC KIOslave, but no idea how to configure that. |
19:10.31 | |Steffi| | when i plug in the camera dmesg says that the device is plugged at scsiXand so on...but there's nothing about ivman |
19:11.39 | |Steffi| | nothing... |
19:12.14 | sg313 | Blissex, a grep -e irc on .kde3.5 also didn't show up anything useful |
19:13.44 | firephoto | |Steffi|: could be you need some special rule somewhere but if it's getting detected and assigned a /dev node it should show up..... |
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19:14.16 | specsmu | I just installed kde on gentoo, and there are a few strange things, one of them being that kcontrol is empty. anyone know why? |
19:14.30 | |Steffi| | the problem is that nothing works with ivman..mp3-player another camera usb-stick..nothing |
19:15.16 | |Steffi| | and ivman doesn't show up in /var/log/messages ..some time ago everything worked fine |
19:15.30 | |Steffi| | perhaps a problem with some kernel-settings or udev? |
19:15.34 | firephoto | i'd work without ivman till the devices show up |
19:15.58 | |Steffi| | are there any alternatives for automount? with kde? |
19:16.19 | |Steffi| | is it enough to compile all kde-components with hal-support? |
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19:17.06 | firephoto | |Steffi|: if you don't have ivman.. then automount happens in the action of "clicking the icon" or saying yes to what option you are presented with.. ;) |
19:17.48 | |Steffi| | is there something like in windows "New device found..what to you want to do?" |
19:17.54 | firephoto | so turn ivman off every where till you see your devices in media:/ then go from there with what you need. |
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19:19.07 | firephoto | |Steffi|: yes... that's the default behavior with kde now in 3.5.. no ivman needed for that. |
19:20.01 | |Steffi| | hmm..ok so i will delete ivman..but that dialog also doesn't show up..so perhaps a problem with hal? |
19:20.05 | |Steffi| | or even dbus? |
19:20.28 | firephoto | |Steffi|: that would be my guess. maybe you have some old hal configs that are interfering. |
19:20.49 | |Steffi| | what about deleting hal and all configs? |
19:20.58 | |Steffi| | and then reinstall? |
19:21.21 | LinuxNIT-laptop | i tried to start kxdocker and it couldnt find libkio.so.4 |
19:21.27 | firephoto | you could do that for the /etc/hal and dbus stuff and re merge them. |
19:21.29 | LinuxNIT-laptop | any idea how to fix this? |
19:22.03 | |Steffi| | do you know where the configfiles for dbus and hal are? (so i don't forget anything ;-) ) |
19:22.41 | firephoto | |Steffi|: the defaults are fine.. so if you rm /etc/hal and /etc/dbus* then re emerge them you'll be ok. |
19:23.10 | |Steffi| | ok... |
19:23.27 | firephoto | and udev too if you don't have any special rules.... |
19:24.10 | |Steffi| | where are the udev configs? |
19:24.19 | firephoto | in /etc/udev ;) |
19:24.35 | |Steffi| | lol..that are all? |
19:24.46 | |Steffi| | so i delete all those and reinstall them ;-) |
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19:25.05 | fckheads | slackware doesnt use HAL |
19:25.06 | fckheads | why |
19:25.20 | firephoto | yes those three packages.... /etc/ files are protected on gentoo so old files don't get removed when the packages update things... |
19:26.39 | |Steffi| | well i just deleted the folders :-) |
19:27.04 | |Steffi| | and now i'm reemerging udev dbus and hal |
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19:30.20 | sanochaor | hola |
19:30.27 | sanochaor | Feliz Navidad a todos |
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19:36.52 | nebulus | hi. is there a way to execute applications directly from konqueror. there was a exec kioslave within kde 2.x i remember.. but how does it work now? |
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19:38.16 | |Steffi| | wow..thank you firephoto..now it works |
19:38.40 | |Steffi| | when i look at my /var/log/messages there is |
19:38.47 | |Steffi| | Dec 25 20:39:34 stefficl ivman: New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_7b4_105_000375565029_if0_scsi_host |
19:38.48 | |Steffi| | Dec 25 20:39:34 stefficl ivman: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_7b4_105_000375565029_if0_scsi_host wasn't mounted, by us or by others... |
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19:39.16 | |Steffi| | New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_7b4_105_000375565029_if0_scsi_host |
19:39.25 | |Steffi| | is this normal? |
19:39.31 | firephoto | |Steffi|: it will say that... if you want ivman to automount it... just run ivman when kde starts too and the "user" ivman will do the mounting. |
19:39.48 | |Steffi| | ok |
19:39.54 | |Steffi| | and this "wasN |
19:40.14 | |Steffi| | "wasn't mounted, by us or by others" is this normal? |
19:40.21 | firephoto | yes.. |
19:40.24 | |Steffi| | ok :D |
19:40.32 | |Steffi| | so big thanks! |
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20:24.31 | bUscher-g2 | shift+paste doesnt work for me, but strg+v what have I done wrong? :| |
20:24.36 | nebulus | how can i disable the tabbuttons in a konqueror profile? |
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20:31.22 | SAngeli | I am having troubles with this error "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" when using tar command: tar --one-file-system -vjpcf test1.tar.bz2 /boot |
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20:36.37 | EvilGuru | can someone help me with konqueror |
20:36.45 | kommerck | what's wrong |
20:36.54 | EvilGuru | background it black (file mode) |
20:36.58 | EvilGuru | and so is the text |
20:37.16 | EvilGuru | on my other computer it is a very nice picture background |
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20:37.43 | kommerck | hmm, never tried to change background image. |
20:38.07 | tom1502 | hi guys, i am looking for anyone able to help me with KLaptop, because ive got some hibernation probs... |
20:38.27 | EvilGuru | got it! |
20:38.35 | EvilGuru | view -> background |
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20:39.19 | willwork4foo | lo y'all |
20:39.21 | kommerck | tom1502: are you sure it's not because of your video driver or something like that... |
20:39.30 | SAngeli | Can someone help me with tar error: "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" when using tar command: tar --one-file-system -vjpcf test1.tar.bz2 /boot ? |
20:40.50 | tom1502 | kommerck, the hibernate-ram is workin... it is because of an acpi event. there must be a lockfile for acpi created, ive done this for the ram.conf in /etc/hibernate/ram.conf, but i dunno where i can find equiv. file for Klaptop hibernation! |
20:41.47 | kommerck | oh, I dunno; I use kpowersave |
20:42.08 | tom1502 | k, idea where i could get help? |
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20:44.22 | kommerck | I don't have /etc/hibernate at all, suspend scripts must be distro specific |
20:44.54 | tom1502 | i am not sure... but there has to be a config file for KLaptopdaemon! |
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20:59.43 | apokryphos | can anyone see where the option for hiding the seperators in kicker is? Can't seem to find it |
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21:01.27 | Eno_ | Is there any way I can disable the KDE tooltips from the KDE System Tray and perhaps globally? |
21:01.35 | Eno_ | The system tray tooltips really bug me. |
21:01.59 | Eno_ | I tried disabling tool tips through the panel options, but that only disables the ones in the panel that are not part of the system tray. |
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21:02.43 | specsmu | hi, I just installed kde on gentoo, and none of the control panel modules or menus seem to appear. Any suggestions? |
21:03.09 | alexandros | Hi... |
21:03.47 | alexandros | i have a problem with kaffeine and xine for DVD and video files... |
21:03.53 | alexandros | on suse 10.0 |
21:04.34 | kommerck | alexandros: you must install libxine1, kaffeine and libdvdcss from packman repository |
21:04.46 | alexandros | already done |
21:04.58 | alexandros | i have found rpm files |
21:05.31 | alexandros | but nothing ! |
21:05.40 | kommerck | all three? |
21:05.47 | kommerck | or only the last and the first |
21:06.02 | alexandros | yes |
21:06.05 | kommerck | run rpm -q libxine1 |
21:06.19 | alexandros | i use kpackage |
21:06.43 | alexandros | because i don't know hot to install from tar.gz |
21:06.53 | alexandros | i', new on suse... |
21:07.13 | kommerck | alexandros: run that in the console |
21:07.19 | kommerck | and please join #suse |
21:07.37 | kommerck | brb |
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21:26.18 | specsmu | well, I've figured out that it's a problem with kbuildsycoca - if I remove /var/tmp/kdecache-rmiller kcontrol works. If I run kbuildsycoca it stops working. |
21:26.25 | specsmu | how do I fix kbuildsycoca? |
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21:28.55 | specsmu | hmm |
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21:29.14 | parsek_77 | how van i change the title bar color? |
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21:32.43 | decOding | is Qt 4.1 compatible with all current kde applications or KDE 3.5 itself? |
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21:35.22 | sredna | parsek_77: The colors module in the appearance section of the kde control center |
21:35.29 | sredna | decOding: No |
21:35.54 | decOding | so I should get used to qt 4 as other user where I will use it |
21:36.28 | sredna | decOding: You can install it, but don't set QTDIR to where it's located |
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21:37.00 | decOding | sredna, I could use it in /home/other_user/.bash_profile |
21:37.05 | decOding | only for that user |
21:37.15 | sredna | decOding: Well, there is really no need for that |
21:37.37 | decOding | then how would applications compile...? |
21:37.39 | sredna | Just set QTDIR to the location when compiling apps against it |
21:37.49 | decOding | ahh |
21:37.51 | sredna | In your terminal window |
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21:37.54 | decOding | in the *.pro file |
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21:38.01 | sredna | Well, for example |
21:38.03 | parsek_77 | sredna: i am trying to change the color in su mode , it looks changed in the config but in real it's the old color |
21:38.36 | sredna | parsek_77: If you change it in admin mode, you changes the colors for the root user |
21:38.47 | sredna | parsek_77: To change for yourself, be your self |
21:39.01 | parsek_77 | sredna: i want to change it for su mode.. |
21:39.07 | sredna | To change for all users, edit the global config files |
21:39.48 | sredna | parsek_77: I don't think setting the window border color for root works when using kdesu |
21:40.14 | sredna | parsek_77: I use different widget style and color scheme to stress that it's a window owned by root |
21:40.32 | parsek_77 | what do u use? |
21:40.41 | sredna | But the windows are on my X desktop, and thus owned by me as a user |
21:41.19 | sredna | Well, I use a oldstyle widget style and a red color scheme for root |
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21:42.30 | stupendo44 | is there a command I can use to manually power-down a drive once it's unmounted? |
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21:42.51 | kommerck | stupendo44: man hdparm |
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21:43.03 | stupendo44 | thx |
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21:44.34 | parsek_77 | sredna: i changed the widget style, and the color but the outer border is still blue |
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21:47.44 | stupendo44 | kommerck: thanks, that was exactly what I needed. I think my power supply isn't keeping up. My one hard drive kept spinning down and then back up everys o often. I wasnt to just shut it up manually so it's not using power. |
21:47.58 | stupendo44 | *want |
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21:49.03 | kommerck | hmm, kdvi ignores some postscript graphics... |
21:49.29 | kommerck | while xdvi shows the file correctly |
21:49.38 | kommerck | I used the xymtex package which uses pstrics |
21:49.42 | kommerck | pstricks* |
21:51.17 | sredna | parsek_77: As I said, the window is forwarded to root by you |
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21:52.49 | parsek_77 | so it won't change? |
21:52.58 | sredna | parsek_77: No |
21:53.49 | parsek_77 | ok thanks... |
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22:04.16 | root | I"m from russia |
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22:05.39 | drivamgr2006 | And you are risking a lot of grief! Running IRC as a root user is extremely silly, since it can leave you vulnerable to attack |
22:05.43 | sredna | don't irc as root |
22:05.56 | drivamgr2006 | I suggest you log out and create a normal account or log in from your normal user |
22:06.07 | root | ne ponal |
22:06.29 | root | my name is valentin |
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22:10.39 | SMiLeaf | r3tex: you still here? |
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22:11.06 | SMiLeaf | guess not |
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22:15.08 | stupendo44 | what do people here think about the current cdrom mounting situation? fine, or needs improvement? |
22:15.46 | benJIman | what do you mean as "current" ? hal/dbus/subfs etc? |
22:16.29 | stupendo44 | I dunno. I use kubuntu 5.10 with kde 3.5 |
22:17.13 | benJIman | kubuntu didn't do it very well in 5.04, it might be better in 5.10 not sure |
22:17.16 | stupendo44 | I just was wondering if people are ok with how it operates now. No response when you press the button on the cd drive... |
22:17.28 | stupendo44 | when it's mounted, that is. |
22:17.47 | benJIman | stupendo44: that is fine in some distros, I think it's just kubuntu doing it badly |
22:17.59 | stupendo44 | what do other distros do? |
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22:18.13 | stupendo44 | pop up a box or something? |
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22:18.25 | benJIman | in suse you press eject and it ejects |
22:18.35 | stupendo44 | right, but what if it's in use? |
22:18.48 | benJIman | it still works, may take a second or two while it's unmounted |
22:18.57 | stupendo44 | hmm, it force unmounts? |
22:19.13 | benJIman | well it interrupts it somehow, it's different if you manually mount it |
22:19.24 | benJIman | i'm not entirely sure how hal does it |
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22:19.48 | stupendo44 | the main issue I have sometimes is when wine is installing something off a cd. the cd is in use, so it can't be unmounted. The workaround that I have is using isos and remounting on the same mount point. |
22:20.09 | stupendo44 | I don't really understand how two things can be mounted at once, though |
22:20.15 | benJIman | cedega at least understands hal now, so it works fine with suse |
22:20.31 | kommerck | wine > cedega :D |
22:20.41 | benJIman | cedega is wine, with non-free extensions |
22:20.41 | stupendo44 | cedega = evil |
22:20.45 | SMiLeaf | native > wine |
22:21.07 | kommerck | cedega isn't wine |
22:21.12 | kommerck | cedega is a fork of wine |
22:21.16 | benJIman | yes |
22:21.20 | kommerck | SMiLeaf: yeah sure |
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22:22.32 | benJIman | stupendo44: anyhow as long as the program can find the dynamic mountpoints when using hal there is no problem |
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22:22.56 | benJIman | suse has fixed symlinks pointing to wherever hal has things mounted so old things work too |
22:24.25 | stupendo44 | hmm |
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22:24.55 | benJIman | but in answer to your original question, there's room for improvement, it works pretty well if set up correctly at the moment, it's perhaps overly complex though hence in many distros it doesn't work well |
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22:25.44 | stupendo44 | ok, then I guess there's hope. Maybe in kubuntu 6.04 |
22:26.37 | stupendo44 | I thought that if the disk can't be ejected, it should at least notify the user about this. Not just do nothing. |
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22:27.34 | benJIman | stupendo44: yeah, ideally it should just eject |
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22:28.49 | stupendo44 | I hate to say it, but do something like what Windows does. |
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22:38.01 | magyar | Every time i start KDE i get this error message: "Sound server fatal error:cpu overload, aborting" (SID amd64, KDE 3.4.3) |
22:38.21 | kommerck | try disabling arts |
22:38.42 | magyar | the kde sound system? |
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22:40.09 | kommerck | yepp. |
22:42.07 | magyar | kommerck, but than i have no kde sounds |
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22:43.20 | kommerck | you can pipe the sound via mplayer or aplay or so |
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22:44.28 | magyar | kommerck, roger |
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22:46.59 | skamp- | hi |
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22:47.56 | Jiraiya | can someone explain to me why my native resolution 1400x1050 isnt shown in the display settings of kde? |
22:48.17 | skamp- | I've compiled from source kdelibs 3.5.0 and kdebase 3.5.0, in /opt/kde, but I get no menu entries, kcontrol shows no component |
22:48.57 | skamp- | I've read the FAQ... I had compiled from source the same packages but version 3.4.2 on another machine, and I have no problem there |
22:49.01 | skamp- | I'm going crazy! |
22:50.16 | skamp- | I've put export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share:/opt/kde/share in /etc/profile, I've run update-desktop-database as root, but still no luck |
22:51.08 | skamp- | I'm running Linux From Scratch 6.1.1 |
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22:55.00 | skamp- | anybody ? |
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23:03.34 | paco | hello everyone |
23:03.53 | paco | Merry x-mas to all of you |
23:05.31 | paco | question, I have the latest suse kde in my pc along with windows xp. How do I uninstall without affecting my xp bootup? |
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23:34.58 | dracul666 | hi there can anybody tell me what should i do if i click enter on .avi file in mc that it should run in mplayer?? |
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23:42.32 | negletto | ciao |
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23:45.27 | dec0ding | what is the KDE Paint like app ? |
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23:47.56 | dec0ding | eeh? |
23:48.35 | FuzzyTheBear | KolourPaint |
23:49.06 | FuzzyTheBear | is that what you were lookinf for ? |
23:49.34 | dracul666 | so any body can help me? |
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23:50.31 | dec0ding | FuzzyTheBear, thanks ;) |
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23:50.37 | dec0ding | dracul666, what is ur question |
23:50.42 | Oleg_ | to all Jews, I am wishing you Happy Hanukkah which started today, on December 25th, as the sunset arrived! |
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23:51.33 | Oleg_ | and Merry Christmas! |
23:51.34 | dec0ding | :) |
23:51.38 | dec0ding | Marry Marry |
23:51.47 | dracul666 | dec0ding, if i double click or click enter on .avi file in mc i want to run it in mplayer |
23:51.53 | dracul666 | dec0ding, how to do that?? |
23:52.37 | dec0ding | mc ? |
23:52.41 | dec0ding | midnight commander? |
23:52.43 | dracul666 | yeah |
23:52.47 | dracul666 | exactlly |
23:53.01 | dec0ding | let me check |
23:53.08 | dracul666 | ok |
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23:55.27 | dec0ding | dracul666, found something, let me try it |
23:55.46 | dracul666 | dec0ding, ok |
23:56.20 | dec0ding | check if u have ~/.mc directory |
23:57.02 | dec0ding | dracul666 |
23:57.13 | dracul666 | dec0ding, mhm? |
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23:57.29 | Noeve | Evening. |
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23:57.36 | dracul666 | hi Noeve |
23:57.49 | Noeve | Has anyone ever had a password problem after installing KDE ? I've installed it, rebooted, and now my password doesn't work :( |
23:57.53 | dec0ding | dracul666, u have it ? |
23:58.12 | dracul666 | dec0ding, what? |
23:58.20 | dec0ding | <dec0ding> check if u have ~/.mc directory |
23:58.22 | dracul666 | aaaahhh i see |
23:58.25 | dracul666 | i have it:) |
23:58.33 | dracul666 | didn' see that here |
23:58.34 | dracul666 | :) |
23:58.35 | dec0ding | edit ~/.mc/bindings |
23:58.55 | dracul666 | hmm don' have bindings |
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23:59.15 | dec0ding | make one |
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23:59.22 | dracul666 | ok |
23:59.22 | dec0ding | and put this line in it |
23:59.25 | dec0ding | # avi |
23:59.26 | dec0ding | Open=mplayer %f |
23:59.34 | dec0ding | but you gotta try it |
23:59.35 | dracul666 | aha ok:) |
23:59.44 | anisX | could someone tell me what is my second last quit msg ? |