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| 00:05.07 | drivamgr2006 | KHello all. Need a bit of help. I have tried getting some information from the artists.kde.org website and cannot conect to it. I need to locate the person who created the great piece of music which KDE3.4 kicks off with during bootsplash. |
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| 00:05.40 | thiago | hold on, checking |
| 00:05.52 | mrblowtatoes | Hello, can anyone help me with a KDE problem? |
| 00:06.19 | drivamgr2006 | Welcome to #kde mrblowtatoes |
| 00:06.26 | mrblowtatoes | thank you |
| 00:06.29 | drivamgr2006 | Whats the problem? |
| 00:06.46 | thiago | drivamgr2006: do you know what file it is? |
| 00:07.11 | mrblowtatoes | I have just installed Debian, and in the debian channel, i was todl to install kdm and kde, i did both, successfully, but after reboot, it still laods to the prompt, [the debian channel is full, so i ask here] |
| 00:07.21 | drivamgr2006 | no thiago unfortunately. I wish I did. But I dunno how to find out or what format the music was in so I could hunt for it with find files... |
| 00:07.54 | thiago | drivamgr2006: try playing the $KDEDIR/share/sound/KDE_Startup* files and see which one it is you like |
| 00:08.07 | drivamgr2006 | Have you tried starting your display manager or running startx? |
| 00:08.13 | mrblowtatoes | what? |
| 00:08.20 | Theory_ | mrblowtatoes: there is a #debian-kde channel :-) |
| 00:08.25 | mrblowtatoes | KDM loads successfully accoring to debian. |
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| 00:08.55 | drivamgr2006 | thanks thiago. How do I locate the $KDEDIR? Which one could it be? I am on Mdv 2006.0 KDE3.4 |
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| 00:09.47 | straw | drivamgr2006: probably /usr on mandriva |
| 00:09.54 | drivamgr2006 | thanks straw |
| 00:11.03 | mrblowtatoes | that channel seems to be dead. |
| 00:11.10 | fantasi | hello, I've got a question about Kmail (under gentoo with KDE 3.5): is there a way to fetch all my mail from a pop server instead of only the new ones? I just changed from thunderbird to kmail but importing my older mail into kmail is not an option |
| 00:11.35 | Theory_ | are you sure your old mail is still on the server? |
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| 00:12.30 | fantasi | yes |
| 00:12.48 | mrblowtatoes | Dang, the channels i shoudl be in are dead, and the channels related don't offer support |
| 00:12.50 | fantasi | the pop server is that of gmail |
| 00:13.34 | Theory_ | iirc move all your mail to your inbox |
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| 00:16.23 | drivamgr2006 | foudn it thiago |
| 00:16.24 | thiago | fantasi: ask #kontact |
| 00:16.28 | thiago | drivamgr2006: which one? |
| 00:16.57 | drivamgr2006 | its not a KDE one. Its in /usr/share/sounds/ - its called mdv-startup.wav |
| 00:17.15 | thiago | ah, ok, Mandriva sound |
| 00:17.34 | drivamgr2006 | so I need to go back to Mandriva and locate the person. Its kind of annoying cause when its starts with KDE, you expect it to be a part of kde... |
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| 00:20.11 | metellius | does anyone know what process is responsible for alt-tab? for some reason it's really slow (takes about a second from I push alt-tab till something happens), and it works when I restart kde |
| 00:23.09 | thiago | metellius: kwin |
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| 00:25.52 | sam^ | kn8 |
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| 00:31.55 | drivamgr2006 | thiago - I think we have sorta got to the bottom for that piece of music now. I have an rpm -qf and read the changelog, and sent an email to the package maintainer |
| 00:32.28 | drivamgr2006 | I am trying to do a remix of it with audacity, as I think it would sound very good as a piece of club music... |
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| 00:35.35 | thiago | drivamgr2006: I saw :-) |
| 00:35.55 | drivamgr2006 | oh course. your in the channel where I was talking about it... *duh*! |
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| 00:37.35 | _poison | hmmm .... herings =) |
| 00:39.27 | frb | shrubberies! |
| 00:40.04 | Theory_ | Ecky-Ecky-Ecky-Ptang-Zoo-Vraum-nBaum |
| 00:44.23 | drivamgr2006 | "Nobody is to throw ANYTHING, until I blow this whistle..." |
| 00:44.38 | drivamgr2006 | Thank god there are some other Monty Python Fans in the house... |
| 00:44.44 | frb | feche le vache |
| 00:45.23 | drivamgr2006 | I have no idea what that means, but it sounds like some obscure french cheese I have never heard of... something to do with a cow though... |
| 00:45.36 | frb | it's hard to go to a channel with free software and not find monty python fans |
| 00:45.52 | Theory_ | it's pseudofrench |
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| 00:46.02 | frb | drivamgr2006: I don't know french, and my spelling is horible, but in the holy grail they say something that sounds like that |
| 00:46.07 | frb | it meand "get the cow" |
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| 00:47.30 | drivamgr2006 | "Are you the Judean People's Front?" "What? F* off! Judean People's Front indeed. There's the Judean People's Front... SPLITTER!" "We're the People's front of Judea" |
| 00:47.55 | drivamgr2006 | :) |
| 00:48.24 | _poison | ^^ |
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| 00:49.58 | drivamgr2006 | "So, what's Romans Go Home????" "Romanii ite domum..." "Good, now don't forget it...*slap* I want that 100 times, round the palace wall, by sunrise..." |
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| 00:50.25 | poimen | sup! people :D |
| 00:51.06 | drivamgr2006 | yo poimen... how are ya? just having a quick reminisce about monty python... |
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| 00:52.49 | trumee | guys is it possible to sync Addressbook contacts with Exchange server? |
| 00:53.41 | trumee | or tasks with exchange? |
| 00:54.32 | trumee | anybody |
| 00:55.24 | thiago | drivamgr2006: Monty Python rules |
| 00:55.33 | Theory_ | Mmmm...python |
| 00:55.42 | trumee | another question, is it possible to add a remote Mail folder(which uses kmail too) to local kmail? |
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| 00:56.08 | thiago | trumee: how remote? IMAP? |
| 00:56.50 | Knowerrors | wafer thin mint |
| 00:56.55 | trumee | thiago:not IMAP, i use kmail on work computer and have archived mails on that system. i just want to share that archive folder at home. |
| 00:57.26 | thiago | trumee: that's something I was thinking about today |
| 00:57.33 | thiago | I've never seen it in KMail |
| 00:57.35 | drivamgr2006 | and don't I know it... I think it kicks butt. I have an episode on my 250gb external... 3x01 - Whickers World, featuring The Criminal, Njorl's Saga, and I believe, the BALPA Apology |
| 00:57.39 | trumee | thiago:good, any solution |
| 00:57.44 | poimen | someone here haves a Pentium D 830 proc? |
| 00:58.10 | drivamgr2006 | unfortunately I dont poimen. I run a P4 Xeon here |
| 00:58.35 | trumee | thiago:ugl way is to mount the remote folder using nfs/ssh and set a link to it |
| 00:59.11 | trumee | thiago:what use is that synchronisation thing in kontact? |
| 00:59.41 | Theory_ | what is the name of the command line app to show popup windows? |
| 01:00.25 | trumee | Theory_:winpopup clone for linux? |
| 01:00.45 | Theory_ | I want to show them on my own desktop |
| 01:01.04 | trumee | Theory_:smbclient -M compname |
| 01:01.19 | trumee | thiago:any clue? |
| 01:01.24 | Theory_ | ah, got it |
| 01:01.25 | Theory_ | kdialog |
| 01:01.43 | trumee | so guys, what is the use of synchronisation in kontact? |
| 01:02.41 | trumee | somebody |
| 01:02.47 | poimen | drivamgr2006 : you using mandriva amd 64 ed? |
| 01:03.21 | thiago | trumee: smbclient, yes |
| 01:03.27 | drivamgr2006 | no poimen, I run mandriva 2006 i586 version. My processor is only 32 bit |
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| 01:03.45 | trumee | thiago:i was talking about synchronisation :) |
| 01:03.55 | drivamgr2006 | brb - 10-100 |
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| 01:08.24 | trumee | this place is dead ugghhh!!! |
| 01:08.30 | poimen | yeah |
| 01:08.35 | poimen | very dead |
| 01:08.38 | poimen | :( |
| 01:08.53 | trumee | i guess all the german developers are sleeping :p |
| 01:09.00 | poimen | lol |
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| 01:09.53 | trumee | poimen:u use kontact? |
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| 01:10.02 | thiago | trumee: oh, no idea |
| 01:10.09 | thiago | I don't think it is possible |
| 01:10.19 | trumee | thiago:u woke up after 30 minutes, uggghh!!! |
| 01:10.53 | drivamgr2006 | trumee - Wollen Sie ein dev? Ich bin nich ein KDE dev, aber vielleicht Ich koennen Sie helfen.... |
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| 01:10.58 | drivamgr2006 | ^^nicht |
| 01:11.11 | poimen | nope |
| 01:11.11 | trumee | is not a german ;) |
| 01:11.25 | dip | how long should it take to build kde 3.5 on a amd1700+ w/512mb ddr ... ?? |
| 01:11.40 | drivamgr2006 | oh... sorry. Thought you were looking for one of the german devs... |
| 01:11.43 | poimen | I would say like 9 hrs |
| 01:11.52 | drivamgr2006 | *me is a doofus* |
| 01:11.59 | trumee | dip:24 |
| 01:12.17 | dip | yeesh |
| 01:12.18 | poimen | dip what distro u use? |
| 01:12.23 | dip | gentoo |
| 01:12.39 | trumee | dip:trust me i built it few days ago on gentoo, it took 24 |
| 01:12.40 | dip | love it but thinking about going to ubuntu now... |
| 01:12.56 | dip | or buy a faster pc |
| 01:13.01 | drivamgr2006 | 24 hours to compile??? Jeesh... |
| 01:13.10 | poimen | dip : try kubuntu is very good :D |
| 01:13.14 | trumee | drivamgr2006:yup it is horrible |
| 01:13.16 | drivamgr2006 | or Mandriva. |
| 01:13.21 | drivamgr2006 | 2006 is excellent |
| 01:13.23 | trumee | drivamgr2006:but gentoo rocks :) |
| 01:13.28 | dip | i love gentoo |
| 01:13.40 | dip | but the compile times are very long |
| 01:13.42 | trumee | me too :) |
| 01:13.48 | hydrogen | thats why you compile while you sleep |
| 01:13.48 | hydrogen | :) |
| 01:13.50 | dip | hate waiting |
| 01:13.51 | hydrogen | or use grp to get going |
| 01:13.55 | hydrogen | and then compile while it runs |
| 01:14.07 | trumee | hydrogen is alive too, yipppeeeee |
| 01:14.25 | drivamgr2006 | I compile while I am in bed. I leave the machine to compile, switch on tvtime and watch tv overnght, and leave gcc to do its job |
| 01:15.00 | drivamgr2006 | I wake up in the morning and everything is sorted. I dont have to worry cause I dont have to sit and be bored stiff watching it compile |
| 01:16.00 | _poison | gentoo causes pollution and hurts the envoironment. all the extra power usage under fll load while compiling ... =P |
| 01:16.02 | dip | same here |
| 01:16.30 | dip | but I just setup cron to update my system everynight |
| 01:16.38 | dip | i rarely actually emerge anything |
| 01:16.57 | dip | i usually use gnome and wanna try kde out |
| 01:17.07 | hydrogen | shudders |
| 01:17.13 | trumee | dip:do u use evolution? |
| 01:17.17 | hydrogen | autonomous emerging is a good way to get bitten |
| 01:17.26 | hydrogen | if you want to try it out dip |
| 01:17.26 | drivamgr2006 | Should be a notice on the website for gentoo... "Warning - this package may cause headaches, drowsiness, sore eyes, and boredom. Do not drink and compile at the same time or you may begin to enjoy it. If symptoms persist, download Mandriva 2006 instead." |
| 01:17.36 | hydrogen | get kdebase-startkde, kicker, amarok, kmail, kopete |
| 01:17.37 | drivamgr2006 | :D |
| 01:17.38 | dip | yea i use evolution |
| 01:17.50 | hydrogen | and that is a basic kde environment |
| 01:17.51 | poimen | lol |
| 01:18.00 | trumee | dip:does exchange connector work in evolution? |
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| 01:18.34 | dip | not sure... i use evolution to import my gmail via pop3 |
| 01:18.48 | dip | googly it |
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| 01:19.11 | trumee | dip:uhhh, i want to sync my exchange stuff on linux, dont know how to do it :( |
| 01:19.43 | trumee | dip:dont know if connector works in gentoo |
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| 01:20.23 | dip | trumee: http://helpdesk.its.uiowa.edu/exchange/ximian.htm |
| 01:20.32 | trumee | kde ppl keep postponing exchange issues with every release, i hate it. i guess i will have to change from kmail to evolution |
| 01:21.24 | dip | truemee: http://www.answers.vt.edu/ask4help/email/vtkb2262.htm |
| 01:21.37 | dip | base the configuration on those links |
| 01:21.53 | dip | anyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ? |
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| 01:25.59 | dip | what are the must have kde applications ? |
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| 01:28.20 | DexterF | baghira and kompose |
| 01:28.26 | annma | dip: well, all are |
| 01:28.39 | DexterF | both almost useless but preeeeeetty :) |
| 01:28.41 | annma | it depends what you are looking for on your desktop |
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| 02:17.10 | snowgeese | is there any way to kill my nvida splash screen |
| 02:17.24 | _stepz | snowgeese, check nvidia driver documentation |
| 02:18.00 | snowgeese | been there |
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| 02:20.44 | woddf2 | Haldo |
| 02:20.51 | woddf2 | configure complains about libz! |
| 02:21.41 | woddf2 | apt-get can't find libz or zlib. |
| 02:23.59 | woddf2 | I'm on Debian and am trying to compile KDE 3.5.0.. |
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| 02:25.42 | woddf2 | Haldo |
| 02:25.56 | woddf2 | Does anyone know what to do? |
| 02:27.07 | grepper | zlib1g-dev |
| 02:27.14 | frank23 | zlib1g-dev installed? |
| 02:27.53 | woddf2 | Oh |
| 02:27.54 | grepper | woddf2: that is the name of zlib package on debian |
| 02:27.56 | woddf2 | I'll try that. |
| 02:28.11 | woddf2 | apt-get found something. |
| 02:28.14 | grepper | zlib1g is the runtime |
| 02:28.28 | woddf2 | ./configure;make;make install ing again... |
| 02:28.47 | grepper | what debian are you on ? |
| 02:29.08 | woddf2 | I'm on sarge/sid. |
| 02:29.31 | woddf2 | I installed sarge and modified /etc/apt/sources.list to download from unstable/sid repositories. |
| 02:29.31 | grepper | er, what is sarge/sid ? |
| 02:29.43 | grepper | mistake, that |
| 02:29.48 | woddf2 | Where is the Qt source? |
| 02:30.03 | grepper | you either dist-upgrade or use backports |
| 02:31.31 | woddf2 | apt-get is doing that. |
| 02:31.35 | woddf2 | Where is the Qt source? |
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| 02:32.11 | woddf2 | I found it. |
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| 02:32.17 | woddf2 | ...I think... |
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| 02:51.30 | woddf2 | Where can I get Qt? |
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| 02:55.04 | Ertain | Does anyone around here know about Kommander? |
| 02:55.10 | woddf2 | Erm.. |
| 02:55.11 | woddf2 | . |
| 02:55.18 | woddf2 | I think it's in kdewebdev or something. |
| 02:55.36 | Ertain | Thank you for the information. But that still doesn't help me. :-( |
| 02:55.45 | woddf2 | Oh |
| 02:55.51 | woddf2 | I hope Wikipedia knows. |
| 02:56.03 | Ertain | Why yes of course. I'll look on Wikipedia. |
| 02:56.47 | Ertain | Nope, nothing on Wikipedia. |
| 02:57.09 | woddf2 | Hmm |
| 02:57.19 | woddf2 | Have you tried the popular search engine Google? |
| 02:57.48 | Ertain | Yeppers. Not a lot of help. |
| 02:57.53 | woddf2 | http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/ |
| 02:58.00 | woddf2 | I found something. |
| 02:58.33 | Ertain | Yeah, I've looked at that. But what I'm trying to find is a little Kommander script that can make Kommander widgets. |
| 02:58.47 | woddf2 | Oh |
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| 02:59.50 | woddf2 | I also have a problem --- I can't find Qt! |
| 03:00.17 | Ertain | Curse that not finding Qt! Have you checked Trolltech's main website? |
| 03:00.43 | dip | anyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ? |
| 03:01.09 | Ertain | Sad to say, dip, but I wouldn't know. |
| 03:01.18 | woddf2 | Ertain: I tried that, but I don't know which link to follow. |
| 03:01.21 | woddf2 | *links |
| 03:01.27 | dip | there prices are almost the same and having hard time choosing' |
| 03:01.38 | Ertain | woddf2: What do you want, exactly? |
| 03:02.03 | woddf2 | I want the Qt libs, I think. |
| 03:02.46 | Ertain | I take it, then that you've checked on Google? Maybe have tried Google.com/linux? |
| 03:02.50 | woddf2 | I just want to compile kdelibs, kdebase, and arts. |
| 03:02.54 | woddf2 | I'll try that. |
| 03:04.06 | Ertain | Check KDE.org then. I think they have all the right stuff. |
| 03:04.44 | woddf2 | I downloaded Konstruct. |
| 03:04.51 | woddf2 | I don't know why I didn't try that first. |
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| 03:05.36 | Ertain | What's your distro, woddf2? |
| 03:06.16 | woddf2 | I'm on Debian. |
| 03:06.43 | Ertain | Are you using apt for your Debian packages? |
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| 03:06.56 | woddf2 | Yes |
| 03:07.16 | woddf2 | I'm trying Konstruct. |
| 03:07.48 | Ertain | Then simply use apt-get kdelibs-devel, or something of the like, to use Konstruct. Btw, what was Konstruct again? |
| 03:08.18 | woddf2 | Google knows. |
| 03:08.33 | Ertain | I can't remember what Konstruct does. |
| 03:09.00 | woddf2 | It's some type of KDE installer... er? |
| 03:09.14 | Ertain | Ah, now I remember. |
| 03:11.43 | cpw | Konstruct is the svn build thingy |
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| 03:12.21 | Ertain | Thank you, cow. |
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| 03:17.34 | woddf2 | ~What does Error 2 mean? |
| 03:17.54 | woddf2 | *What |
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| 03:19.02 | xz | woddf2 where? |
| 03:19.06 | woddf2 | ? |
| 03:19.17 | woddf2 | make gave me Error 2. |
| 03:19.22 | Ertain | Probably due to a header file missing. |
| 03:19.27 | woddf2 | I've always wondered what the [...] that meant... |
| 03:19.28 | xz | woddf2: what were you makeing? |
| 03:19.35 | woddf2 | Konstruct was compiling. |
| 03:19.43 | RPG_ | I'm on a VNC connection to my Linux machine, with KDE. I am in a failsafe terminal, because the VNC server sent me there. What is the command that will get me into the KDE GUI? |
| 03:19.58 | xz | RPG_: startx or startkde |
| 03:20.09 | RPG_ | thank you |
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| 03:21.44 | woddf2 | I installed gettext. |
| 03:21.48 | woddf2 | I hope that fixes it. |
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| 03:36.11 | woddf2 | How long will Konstruct take to compile KDE? |
| 03:37.14 | benJIman | woddf2: depends entirely on your system specs |
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| 03:39.00 | woddf2 | http://wlair.blogsome.com/my-computers My specifications are on here, but the OS and HDD information is out of date. |
| 03:39.09 | woddf2 | I'll update that soon. |
| 03:39.17 | woddf2 | I'm on Main Computer. |
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| 03:39.59 | benJIman | woddf2: broken link |
| 03:40.29 | woddf2 | Oh |
| 03:40.30 | woddf2 | I meant |
| 03:40.51 | woddf2 | http://wlair.wordpress.com/my-computers |
| 03:40.57 | woddf2 | I keep confusing them. |
| 03:42.50 | benJIman | that's a 404 too |
| 03:43.03 | woddf2 | Oh |
| 03:43.09 | woddf2 | http://wlair.wordpress.com/my-computers/ Trailing /'d! |
| 03:43.13 | woddf2 | Try that. |
| 03:43.52 | benJIman | the 400mhz celeron? |
| 03:44.03 | woddf2 | Yes |
| 03:44.30 | benJIman | hmm you're probably looking at days rather than hours for a complete kde build |
| 03:44.50 | woddf2 | What about just kdelibs, arts, and kdebase? |
| 03:45.11 | benJIman | still a very long time |
| 03:45.19 | woddf2 | How many days will it take? |
| 03:45.22 | benJIman | it takes 1.5hrs here so let's see |
| 03:45.38 | benJIman | maybe 12hrs or so |
| 03:45.39 | xz | woddf2: remember to get kdebase-meta rather than kdebase if you want the split ebuilds |
| 03:46.22 | xz | woddf2: if you have a look at emerge -p kdebase-meta you'll see the packages - you can choose not to install some of them to save time |
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| 03:48.55 | MANOWAR^ | I have a question about kopete |
| 03:49.01 | MANOWAR^ | what does the Alias plugin do |
| 03:49.06 | MANOWAR^ | I can't find anything abou tit |
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| 03:57.31 | xz | where do i set the kde default encoding? |
| 03:57.44 | Ahmuck | i have a gripe with konq, can i air it here ? |
| 03:58.12 | woddf2 | ? |
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| 03:59.51 | Ahmuck | when selecting |
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| 04:00.28 | beng | i've got a problem right now. akregator and kmail are opening cached web links |
| 04:00.44 | beng | so whenever i load up a page, it'll download the php and then view the php code for example |
| 04:01.41 | Ahmuck | save file, the only way to tell /home from /home/user is the carefully noting the Uppercase "Home" vs. the lower case "home" which causes confusion |
| 04:02.32 | Ahmuck | because kde thinks you are "Home" (/home/user) and displays it this way or "home" when you are /home |
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| 04:13.27 | xz | Ahmuck: where? mine says /home/user not Home .. |
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| 04:14.00 | Ahmuck | xz ... move to / |
| 04:14.02 | Ahmuck | then to home |
| 04:14.10 | Ahmuck | er, then to /home |
| 04:14.16 | Ahmuck | then to ~ |
| 04:14.40 | Ahmuck | in the left hand side, you have a sidebar with Home, Desktop, Filesystem |
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| 04:16.57 | xz | Ahmuck: i have Desktop, Home Folder, Storage Media, Network Folders in that sidebar (when i enable it) |
| 04:17.15 | Ahmuck | hrm, maybee it is a setting ... i will check it out |
| 04:17.23 | xz | Ahmuck: this is kde 3.5.0 |
| 04:17.32 | Ahmuck | i am on kde 3.4.x |
| 04:17.55 | xz | Ahmuck: maybe they change it then. could be a setting somewhere but i haven't touched any |
| 04:22.44 | woddf2 | Konstruct/make gave me an Error 2 again! |
| 04:23.03 | woddf2 | I've always wondered what the [...] that meant.../me has quit () |
| 04:23.08 | woddf2 | Oops... |
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| 07:08.58 | Columcille | if I want to try and tackle some koffice junior bugs, is svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/koffice what I should start looking at, or svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.5/koffice - or perhaps something else that I completely failed to notice? :) |
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| 07:12.04 | SMiLeaf | Columcille: the one with 3.5 in it is the stable one. so you might wanna use trunk |
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| 07:12.32 | Columcille | that was my thought, thanks |
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| 07:14.04 | sredna | Columcille: Koffice is in trunk/koffice |
| 07:14.26 | sredna | Or alternatively branches/koffice/1.4 |
| 07:14.39 | sredna | But that is not being used for further releases |
| 07:14.47 | Columcille | *nod* grabbing the trunk now |
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| 07:25.16 | Oleg_ | late according to my time |
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| 08:26.33 | m0ns00n | Hey |
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| 08:50.44 | shastry | ih all |
| 08:50.48 | shastry | hi* |
| 08:51.20 | shastry | how do i disable wastebin icon from my desktop ? |
| 08:51.30 | shastry | erhm nm |
| 08:51.32 | shastry | its deletable.. |
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| 08:53.40 | Columcille | move it to the trash? ;) |
| 08:53.48 | Columcille | trash the trash... |
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| 08:57.39 | tilrman | if you move the trash into the trash, it creates a rip in the fabric of spacetime |
| 08:58.58 | xz | shastry: there'll be an option somewhere... i'll look. did you try trashing it ? lol |
| 08:59.50 | xz | shastry anything in control centre -> desktop ? |
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| 09:01.28 | xz | shastry: the other thing you could do is ... mv ~/Desktop/trash.desktop ~/Desktop/.trash.desktop |
| 09:01.37 | xz | shastry: that would hide it |
| 09:02.09 | xz | shastry: move it back to unhide it |
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| 09:04.11 | shastry | xz: aah hiding .. nice |
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| 09:04.30 | xz | shastry: yeah i was thinking rm at first.. but then i wouldn't know how to get it back |
| 09:04.46 | shastry | :) |
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| 09:22.56 | shastry | is there any way i can have kontact in system tray > |
| 09:22.59 | shastry | ? |
| 09:23.45 | xz | shastry: nothing in its options? i don't have kontact so i should keep mute.. |
| 09:23.54 | fangel | enable show kmail in system tray in its option.. |
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| 09:24.03 | shastry | ooh.. ok |
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| 09:24.53 | shastry | fangel: thanks it worked |
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| 10:46.03 | mobtek | hmm anyone got weird bash completion probs in konsole? |
| 10:47.14 | PhilRod | don't think so, although konsole today is starting up in chinese |
| 10:49.04 | mobtek | hahah cool :) |
| 10:49.12 | grepper | heh, guess bash completion in chinese would qualify :P |
| 10:49.23 | mobtek | I wonder if my bashrc function are now out of date or something |
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| 10:51.08 | PhilRod | well, it displays unusual characters (some of which look chinese to me) when restarted by the session manager. Works fine when started manually |
| 10:52.17 | mobtek | heh neat |
| 10:53.34 | mobtek | hmm when I hit tab for completion I get nothing, the line disappears |
| 10:56.36 | mobtek | found it |
| 10:56.43 | mobtek | missing a ; inside { } |
| 10:56.45 | mobtek | kekek |
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| 10:59.18 | mobtek | hmm still not quite right but 100% better :) |
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| 11:05.40 | nakeee | I installed kde 3.5, someone told me it has a new program called khotstuf that suppose to make downloading themes and the like easier |
| 11:06.08 | nakeee | I can't find it though. |
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| 11:07.31 | qfh | can anyone help me troubleshooting hal/dbus/media-ioslave-integration? i suppose a window should be popping up when i insert a cdrom or a sd card |
| 11:08.44 | qfh | this is on 3.5.0 with 2.6.14 kernel and latest gentoo ~x86 hal/dbus/pmount versions |
| 11:13.05 | PhilRod | nakeee: it's a framework rather than an app. Try, eg control center -> appearance & themes -> background -> get new wallpapers |
| 11:13.25 | PhilRod | it works in a few other places. Some kdeedu apps, superkaramba, um, can't remember where else |
| 11:13.54 | PhilRod | qfh: I think there's a howto in the gentoo wiki for it. Did you read that? |
| 11:14.29 | qfh | yes it made me recompile kioslaves with USE=hal but still nothing happens |
| 11:14.38 | SmallR2002 | what be this? |
| 11:14.39 | SmallR2002 | hald? |
| 11:14.54 | nakeee | PhilRod: what's superkaramba is it also in kde 3.5? |
| 11:14.54 | SmallR2002 | with gentoo... wow... you may well be lucky i just got in |
| 11:15.09 | qfh | :) |
| 11:15.19 | PhilRod | nakeee: yes, in kdeutls |
| 11:15.22 | PhilRod | kdeutils* |
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| 11:18.26 | SmallR2002 | qfh, grrrr |
| 11:18.30 | SmallR2002 | qfh, sorry about this my connection is really bad |
| 11:18.54 | nakeee | PhilRod: oh hey that's cool:) |
| 11:19.11 | qfh | yeeha it's working :) forgot to setup hald/device.d correctly |
| 11:19.36 | SmallR2002 | qfh, i never needed to do anything to that... what did you do/ |
| 11:20.26 | qfh | well i removed the 50-fstab-sync link a while ago (because a howto said to do so) but forgot to create a link to pmount-hal |
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| 11:25.25 | qfh | unfortunately, it does not work for cdrom and the media:/-slave still shows the sd card i pulled out some minutes ago |
| 11:25.40 | SmallR2002 | thats kinda weird |
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| 11:25.56 | SmallR2002 | i can do everything except one cammera which doesnt seem to be detected |
| 11:26.21 | qfh | SmallR2002: maybe it's not usb-mass-storage compatible? |
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| 11:32.55 | SmallR2002 | qfh, it should be, it used to be the only one that worked |
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| 11:36.23 | SmallR2002 | qfh, i dont think konqueror is using pmount |
| 11:38.49 | qfh | SmallR2002[BNC]: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS: "There are two options available to you to accomplish this. The preferred one is to use a utility called pmount [...]" |
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| 11:40.46 | sm7xab | Hi! Is it possible to attach a link in an e-mail that will start a program when clicked (yes, this might be a security compromise). I would like to send an e-mail to a usrs when his och her password expires with a link that will start kpassword. |
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| 11:46.54 | Dexter_F | sm7xab: this is what we advise *anyone* to definetly *not* do. |
| 11:48.10 | sm7xab | Dexter: I thought so! Just had to see if it was possilbe :-) |
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| 11:49.45 | straw | just send a mail "Your password will expire in X days. Here are instructions..." |
| 11:49.46 | sm7xab | DexterF: What is the reccomended way to do this? |
| 11:50.52 | qfh | sm7xab: "press alt+f2 and type kpasswd" ;) |
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| 11:51.37 | sm7xab | Oooh! Didn't know that one! Thank's! |
| 11:52.20 | qfh | sm7xab: i don't have kpasswd/kpassword, though |
| 11:53.08 | sm7xab | qfh: Oh! It got installed with my Gentoo system (KDE 3.5). |
| 11:53.37 | qfh | are you using split packages? |
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| 11:54.37 | sm7xab | qfh: Not to my knowledge. Just "emerge kde". |
| 11:54.46 | qfh | ah ok |
| 11:55.48 | sm7xab | Have a totally fresh install now. Feels good. But it has been almost 2 years since last :-) Feels even better. |
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| 11:56.35 | qfh | yes i should do a complete update too, but this will certainly take a week or so ;) |
| 11:57.42 | sm7xab | qfh: Managed to do it in three days. Including KDE, Firefox and OOo 2.0. Didn't think my machine was that fast. But, I cheated somewhat. Started with a stage 3. |
| 11:58.05 | DeadS0ul | mine upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4.3 will take bout a day =D |
| 11:58.11 | qfh | nice, with gcc 4 i assume? |
| 11:58.28 | qfh | it took me little more than 24 hours to merge kde-meta |
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| 11:59.15 | qfh | bye |
| 11:59.22 | McScruff | hi, i've been hunting around with no luck, where can i download "kdesupport" source? |
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| 12:01.25 | straw | McScruff: svn, i guess |
| 12:02.46 | sm7xab | Thanks for the help I've received. Got to go! |
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| 12:41.32 | m0wax | How do I change the menu button in kde? |
| 12:43.34 | benJIman | change the icon in the theme, or use kbfx to put custom image there |
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| 12:45.46 | m0wax | thanks |
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| 13:06.17 | Juerd | I get NXDOMAINs |
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| 13:22.16 | grepper | Juerd: kde using svn now |
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| 13:39.01 | tomyeah | hi |
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| 13:40.09 | tomyeah | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30780 i want to install this theme, is there any chance to get it into my kde theme manager just by clicking "install new theme"? |
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| 13:45.33 | pinucset | sth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok... |
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| 13:46.01 | tomyeah | pinucset: ;) |
| 13:46.24 | pinucset | tomyeah ? |
| 13:48.43 | tomyeah | pinucset: if u were on windows now id search for something like "visual keyboard" or so |
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| 13:50.02 | tomyeah | pinucset: its called "Eingabehilfen" in german |
| 13:50.13 | tomyeah | stuff for disabled people, u can find it usually in every OS |
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| 13:53.33 | pinucset | tomyeah dont find any in apt-get... |
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| 13:59.57 | grepper | pinucset: apt-cache search graphical keyboard |
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| 14:24.31 | Juerd | grepper: Ahhh. That explains a lot :) |
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| 14:24.48 | grepper | pinucset: hehe, xvkbd : just tried it out -works well |
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| 14:25.55 | grepper | Juerd: yeah, instructions somewhere on kde site for svn |
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| 14:45.01 | pinucset | tyy |
| 14:45.37 | pinucset | thanks,works grepper |
| 14:45.54 | grepper | np |
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| 15:08.03 | rohan | hi all, whats the use of "MoodBar" in amarok |
| 15:08.04 | rohan | i have it enabled, but i dont understand whats the use !! |
| 15:08.24 | PhilRod | mariux: they should play basic formats (avi, mpg). Try kaffeine or codeine or kmplayer if you want .wmv or .mov |
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| 15:17.04 | willwork4foo | I've never done an installation of KDE from source before - seems to be going well so far |
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| 15:29.18 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: as long as you're doing it in the order arts, kdelibs, kdebase, <other stuff>, kdeaddons, you should be OK |
| 15:29.28 | thegladiator | how can i chane the looks of my knoqueror ? |
| 15:29.29 | willwork4foo | I am |
| 15:29.36 | thegladiator | i run konqueror on gnome |
| 15:29.40 | thegladiator | i like knqueror |
| 15:29.43 | willwork4foo | although - when I got to kdebindings it wouldn't install because I don't have a C# compiler |
| 15:29.52 | willwork4foo | I'm guessing I don't need kdebindings |
| 15:30.02 | willwork4foo | (at least - I'm hoping I don't) |
| 15:30.09 | StevenR | willwork4foo: chekc the slackbuild script, there's a workaround pat made so it will compile all the bits that it can |
| 15:30.49 | willwork4foo | StevenR: I'm just doing it all manually at the moment. and I've been at it all day - I've only got like 6 or 7 packages left to uncompress and build and then I'm done |
| 15:31.01 | willwork4foo | Can't wait to see it - KDE 3.5 screenshots do look a bit sexy |
| 15:31.05 | PhilRod | thegladiator: open kcontrol, the KDE control center, and change stuff in appearance & themes (mainly widget style) |
| 15:31.11 | StevenR | willwork4foo: the script has a the correct make command in it, that's all |
| 15:31.37 | willwork4foo | ah fair enough |
| 15:31.37 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: if you don't think you need kdebindings, you don't need it :-) |
| 15:31.53 | willwork4foo | Fair enough. What is kdebindings for anyway? (in a nutshell) |
| 15:32.30 | PhilRod | programming KDE apps with languages !=C+ |
| 15:32.32 | PhilRod | C++* |
| 15:32.33 | SMiLeaf | willwork4foo: stuff so you can develop kde apps in other languages like python and such. |
| 15:32.56 | willwork4foo | ah ok. I don't do KDE development work (yet!) |
| 15:33.09 | willwork4foo | I'm finishing off my final year of my degree |
| 15:33.21 | SMiLeaf | what degree you going for? |
| 15:33.34 | willwork4foo | BSc(Hons) Computing for Real-Time Systems |
| 15:33.43 | SMiLeaf | sweet =) |
| 15:33.45 | willwork4foo | lots of embedded systems development |
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| 15:35.44 | willwork4foo | damn this is taking a very long time |
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| 15:42.30 | sirius__ | hi |
| 15:44.10 | sirius__ | when starting kde, or when clicking "kresources" in kcontrol, it takes a very long time. lsof tells me, that it is running a process "rx1663.cip.uni-regensburg.de:46647->localhost:sunrpc (SYN_SENT)". how can I deactivate/fix that? |
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| 15:46.21 | PhilRod | sirius__: are you using nfs? |
| 15:46.37 | sirius__ | PhilRod: no, and portmapd is also not running |
| 15:47.56 | PhilRod | sirius__: create a new user and try with that user. Does the same happen? |
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| 15:48.35 | sirius__ | I just installed kde, it happened right the first time I started it |
| 15:48.45 | sirius__ | but I will give it a try |
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| 15:50.48 | sirius__ | PhilRod: same problem with a new user |
| 15:52.15 | sirius__ | i'm using kde version 3.4.3 by the way |
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| 15:53.19 | Old--man | KDE gurus, I have a noob question: How do I map my "windows start" key to pop up the K-menu? |
| 15:54.38 | halcyonCorsair | Old--man: Kcontrol -> Regions & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts |
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| 15:55.06 | halcyonCorsair | Old--man: global shortcuts tab, search for menu, and then change "Popup Launch Menu" to be the windows key |
| 15:55.20 | PhilRod | Old--man: but you have to make the Win key to not be a modifier |
| 15:55.33 | PhilRod | why oh why haven't I written this up as a faq yet? |
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| 15:56.19 | halcyonCorsair | PhilRod: you mean, is his win key a usable meta-key? |
| 15:56.33 | ananth126 | Old--man: try the Control centre.... |
| 15:56.43 | ananth126 | if that doesnt work, last resort, use XModMaps |
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| 15:58.59 | halcyonCorsair | xmodmaps are a bitch |
| 15:59.32 | ananth126 | and hence the last resort..:) |
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| 16:00.15 | halcyonCorsair | ananth126: often just changing your keyboard layout is abetter option |
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| 16:01.20 | ananth126 | i think the CC has a keyboard mapping option... so that could work... |
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| 16:02.04 | Old--man | PhilRod, The Win key is listed as a modifier. Any idea how to change it? |
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| 16:02.51 | PhilRod | Old--man: with xmodmap. I'm not sure how exactly, offhand |
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| 16:03.17 | willwork4foo | One of the main reasons why I love having a Sun keyboard is that instead of a windows key I have a diamond key |
| 16:03.19 | willwork4foo | :) |
| 16:03.38 | PhilRod | and the Ctrl and Caps Lock keys are the "wrong" way round :-) |
| 16:04.03 | ananth126 | thats the most irritant part about sun keyboard... the rest of the hw is kinda cool..:) |
| 16:04.16 | willwork4foo | nah - not on a UK mapped keyboard. and - I've got an american mapped keyboard because I like the Ctrl and Caps lock keys in their PROPER places! |
| 16:04.44 | willwork4foo | (i.e. Caps lock where Ctrl normally is, and vice versa) |
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| 16:05.12 | PhilRod | I used a sun keyboard in uni for a bit and got used to it, actually - nice for emacs :-) |
| 16:05.26 | PhilRod | in fact, my caps lock here is a second ctrl, but I never remember to use it |
| 16:05.47 | willwork4foo | I worked for Sun for a year or so for my placement |
| 16:05.50 | willwork4foo | got used to it there |
| 16:05.58 | willwork4foo | now I have a hard time using a normal keyboard |
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| 16:06.08 | TheBeast | hello |
| 16:06.11 | ananth126 | never understood why they considered caps lock soo important ... perhaps the various flame fest inspired the idea ? |
| 16:06.18 | willwork4foo | no idea |
| 16:06.22 | TheBeast | what's the state of kopete right now? can you see webcams? |
| 16:06.37 | ananth126 | TheBeast: ideally, yes |
| 16:07.05 | TheBeast | ananth126 ideally? |
| 16:07.24 | willwork4foo | that reminds me - I gotta try and get my webcam working in Linux |
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| 16:11.55 | sirius__ | any more ideas how I can solve my problem? |
| 16:12.09 | Old--man | Well enough of trying to get the Win key to work as a regular key. I'll just use ctl-esc |
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| 16:18.58 | shastry | hi all |
| 16:21.27 | shastry | kpager doesnt save settings .. is it a known bug ? |
| 16:22.36 | PhilRod | shastry: take a look on bugs.kde.org |
| 16:22.42 | shastry | heh ok |
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| 16:29.31 | buliwyf1 | test |
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| 16:53.12 | thrice` | does anyone else have kpdf crashing issues in konq with kde 3.5 ? |
| 16:53.32 | shastry | no :S |
| 16:54.30 | frb | nope |
| 16:54.55 | thrice` | are you using kpdf or kghostview? |
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| 16:55.47 | frb | kpdf |
| 16:56.14 | shastry | kpdf |
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| 16:56.53 | thrice` | :( |
| 16:56.57 | thrice` | which distro? |
| 16:57.16 | frb | suse10 |
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| 16:58.31 | shastry | archlinux |
| 16:58.47 | PhilRod | thrice`: do you get a backtrace? Do you get the same behaviour with a newly-created user? Does it crash on all PDFs? |
| 16:58.54 | PhilRod | embedded in konq or running standalone? |
| 16:59.11 | thrice` | embedded and stand alone |
| 16:59.23 | thrice` | I think it's a bad kickerrc in my .kde |
| 16:59.53 | PhilRod | rename that then restart kde and try again. Why would kicker have anything to do with kpdf? |
| 17:00.33 | thrice` | don't know, but apparently it's a fix |
| 17:00.46 | thrice` | but no, i'm not on my box to run it from a terminal for backtrace |
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| 17:00.56 | thrice` | but i've talked to 3 others with the same problem...curious if there's a fix |
| 17:02.13 | PhilRod | you don't need to run on a terminal for a backtrace. When the app crashes, you get drkonqui (the KDE crash handler) which has a backtrace tab |
| 17:02.39 | thrice` | alright, i'll check that when I get home |
| 17:04.03 | twopence | hello |
| 17:05.06 | PhilRod | hi twopence |
| 17:05.09 | twopence | I want to ask about file name sort algorithm used in KDE |
| 17:05.27 | twopence | it's different from Qt |
| 17:05.43 | twopence | i try to trace from source code but still cannot |
| 17:05.57 | PhilRod | konqueror->view->sort by ... |
| 17:07.27 | twopence | what I want to know is how to know which file will be displayed first |
| 17:08.22 | twopence | for example, in Qt, [bc] appears before ab |
| 17:08.35 | twopence | but in KDE, ab apears before [bc] |
| 17:09.44 | twopence | i'm trying to write a program using KIO::listRecursive() and want to sort it in the same order as Konqueror, for example |
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| 17:33.33 | Scytale | Hi. Where can I set system-wide spell checking preferences for all users? KDE defaults to ispell, but I'd like to use aspell... (Distro: Gentoo, KDE 3.5) |
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| 17:37.27 | Columcille | Scytale: Open up kcontrol, type spell in the search bar at the top. |
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| 17:38.21 | Scytale | Columcille: No, I was asking about setting it system-wide for all users. |
| 17:39.51 | robert_ | I saw simethin on kde-look.org that suggested kde4 is out |
| 17:42.04 | shastry | heh its not even coded completely yet XD |
| 17:42.27 | PhilRod | robert_: tell them to stop smoking crack and correct it :-) |
| 17:43.06 | robert_ | heh |
| 17:43.23 | robert_ | well, they had 'kde4' on their nav-menu :P |
| 17:43.50 | Columcille | it's "out" in the sense that people can build it and use it, but it's not complete |
| 17:44.03 | Columcille | and that last is an understatement hehe |
| 17:47.41 | lilalinux | is kontact themeable? |
| 17:48.09 | shastry | it uses the normal kde theme |
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| 17:51.18 | sirius__ | hi |
| 17:52.04 | lilalinux | shastry: and the icons? |
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| 17:52.56 | shastry | lilalinux: i think it uses thedefault kde ones |
| 17:53.10 | sirius__ | when starting any kde programm (kde itself, konqueror, amarok, ...), it takes at least 3 minutes. during that time lsof tells me the following: "kded [...] TCP rx1663.cip.uni-regensburg.de:35019->localhost:sunrpc (SYN_SENT)" what does this do, and why does it take so long? |
| 17:53.21 | sirius__ | and how can I fix it? |
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| 18:05.26 | sirius__ | Fraun: why do you want to do that? |
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| 18:05.52 | Fraun | trying to write a copy to service menu |
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| 18:19.37 | DexterF | hi |
| 18:19.41 | DexterF | what does kded do? |
| 18:20.20 | Pinaraf | it's the daemon containing kded services |
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| 18:20.37 | Pinaraf | kded services can be the cookie manager, the KWallet daemon... |
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| 18:21.15 | DexterF | could it affect dvd writing? |
| 18:21.24 | Pinaraf | I don't think so |
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| 18:21.39 | Pinaraf | it contains the media manager... maybe the media manager can affect DVD writing |
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| 18:22.07 | sirius__ | and what is it doing with that sunrpc thing, that takes so long (by the way, the program I am starting has also such a localhost:sunrpc (SYN_SENT) line in lsof) |
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| 18:23.35 | DexterF | Pinaraf: ok, now we're getting somewhere. it's like this, I start writing a dvd, and after a few hundrer MB write speed drops to 0.90x |
| 18:23.40 | DexterF | in win works fine |
| 18:24.12 | DexterF | (just to rule out writer/blank) |
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| 18:27.46 | Pinaraf | DexterF: I don't think it can be the media manager |
| 18:27.52 | Pinaraf | what distrib are you using ? |
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| 18:51.10 | tomyeah | hey |
| 18:51.29 | tomyeah | anyone ever installed gtk-theme-switch2 for kde ? for changing styles on gtk apps under kde |
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| 18:52.25 | Veidit | Good evning, I have a bit of a problem in Konsole I have changed to a transparent background, and a gray font, but in a few apps (man for example) some text is black, I can't find any option to change this in konsole, if I choose another schema (Green on Black) the Green text is Green and the bold text is also green, where can I change this? |
| 18:53.33 | Columcille | looks like under config konsole -> schema, the colors section? |
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| 18:54.20 | Columcille | not sure if that's what you want |
| 18:54.30 | Veidit | Yes but I can't find the bold text and where to change that, just the normal font |
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| 18:54.56 | Columcille | ahh, *nod* |
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| 18:55.08 | Columcille | konsole could probably use some expansion and cleaning of the options |
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| 18:55.24 | Veidit | Yep :) |
| 18:56.20 | Veidit | It's just so strange that I can't find the option |
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| 19:00.37 | Veidit | Columcille: I have found the config file now, wish me luck :) |
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| 19:01.04 | Columcille | hehe good luck |
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| 19:04.39 | buti | hi! |
| 19:04.57 | buti | in theory... is it possible to link against qt3 and qt4? |
| 19:05.24 | annma | and? |
| 19:05.29 | annma | link what? |
| 19:05.42 | Veidit | Columcille: Found it! |
| 19:05.59 | annma | buti: explain better |
| 19:06.04 | Columcille | have to manually tweak the config file? |
| 19:06.37 | Veidit | Columcille: Yes, it's colour 10 that needed to be changed |
| 19:06.39 | Columcille | buti: I think they're working on having qt4 be backwards-compatible, but don't hold me to that. |
| 19:06.40 | buti | annma: i'm about to port a qt-app, that uses some kde-features. |
| 19:06.46 | Columcille | Veidit: where's the config located? |
| 19:06.46 | buti | kde is still qt3 |
| 19:07.09 | annma | buti: first a qt app using kde features is therefore a kde app |
| 19:07.21 | buti | annma: and i'd like to link my app to qt4 and kde |
| 19:07.26 | Veidit | Columcille: Your personal schemas are located in /home/username/.kde/share/apps/konsole/ |
| 19:07.36 | annma | you can port against current kde4 kdelibs snapshot |
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| 19:07.49 | annma | buti: what kdelibs does your app use? |
| 19:08.26 | buti | annma: yeah, ok... kdeui and kdecore |
| 19:08.28 | annma | buti: and rule of the thumb: qt3 with kde3, qt4 with kde4, nothing else |
| 19:08.54 | annma | so if you want to port you have to build qt-copy from trunk and kdelibs4 snapshot |
| 19:09.05 | annma | and work against those when you port |
| 19:09.07 | buti | annma: so i'll have to maintain 2 versions until kde4 is ready |
| 19:09.19 | annma | set a new user for kde4 environment |
| 19:09.24 | annma | buti: of course |
| 19:09.25 | buti | mh... |
| 19:09.38 | annma | just kdelibs4 |
| 19:09.43 | annma | and qt4 |
| 19:09.47 | annma | it's really not much |
| 19:09.52 | buti | annma: and when kde4 supposed to be stable? |
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| 19:09.56 | buti | ;.) |
| 19:09.59 | annma | lol, whoknows? |
| 19:10.14 | buti | hehe |
| 19:10.19 | annma | kde4 must be make scons-compliant first |
| 19:10.29 | annma | won't happen until 2 months probably |
| 19:10.38 | annma | then kdelibs should be shaped |
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| 19:10.44 | annma | another 6 months |
| 19:11.00 | buti | woooh! |
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| 19:11.11 | litb | hi annma |
| 19:11.14 | buti | 6 month of parallel development *shrug* |
| 19:11.14 | annma | yes, kde4 release is projected for 18 months |
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| 19:11.37 | annma | porting now to kde4 makes little sense except if you use libs which will stay |
| 19:11.48 | annma | what sort of app is it? |
| 19:11.49 | buti | annma: 14 months from now, that is? |
| 19:11.58 | annma | yes |
| 19:12.08 | annma | 12-18 months |
| 19:12.11 | buti | annma: well, database frontend.. |
| 19:12.13 | litb | how is kde4 related to portland? |
| 19:12.19 | buti | annma: nothing special |
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| 19:12.32 | annma | if it's just simple gui stuff you can port |
| 19:12.33 | buti | i just use kdialog, kprinter.... |
| 19:12.41 | icicled | how can i insert a link in kmail ? |
| 19:12.51 | buti | kprinter could possibly be harder.. |
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| 19:12.52 | icicled | i.e. i want the word "this" to point to a url |
| 19:13.48 | annma | icicled: using html mode/ |
| 19:13.51 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.53 | icicled | yes, i am using it |
| 19:14.11 | buti | litb: portland what? |
| 19:14.19 | annma | so use <a href="link">this</a> |
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| 19:14.48 | annma | litb: relation not defined at the moment |
| 19:14.58 | buti | what is "make scons-compliant"? |
| 19:15.14 | annma | buti: you don't know kde4 won't use automake? |
| 19:15.21 | icicled | can i preview the html? |
| 19:15.27 | buti | no, but i hate automake anyway |
| 19:15.36 | buti | m4 is a piece of crap |
| 19:15.41 | annma | whatever |
| 19:15.49 | buti | sorry, i don't want to hurt anyone about that |
| 19:15.50 | annma | I would not be able to do better |
| 19:16.03 | annma | it's so easy saying stuff like that |
| 19:16.33 | annma | because, see, we'll use our own build system but guess what: it's not going to be easy |
| 19:16.36 | icicled | wow, this is pretty silly of kmail, not to include a decent html editor for email |
| 19:16.38 | buti | yeah.. ok, but the syntax allone is horror... no wonder so many mistakes are happening |
| 19:16.44 | litb | annma, will portland replace qt? |
| 19:16.46 | annma | and maybe it won't end up better than autotools |
| 19:16.51 | annma | litb: LOL |
| 19:17.00 | annma | you're kidding? |
| 19:17.12 | buti | litb: portland -- url? |
| 19:17.16 | annma | what is portland? explain in a few words please |
| 19:17.18 | litb | no, if we want a clean desktop we should merge gtk and the other solutions |
| 19:17.26 | annma | no url, explain in a few words, litb |
| 19:17.37 | annma | what is portland exactly? |
| 19:18.05 | litb | portland is a project founded to unify the look and feel/functions aof gnome and kde DE and apps |
| 19:18.09 | benJIman | annma: was reported on lwn yesterday, apparently some sort of cooperation between gnome and kde people, it wasn't very specific |
| 19:18.10 | buti | gtk, objects in c, *shrug* again |
| 19:18.23 | annma | is it a widget library? |
| 19:18.35 | annma | litb: ^ |
| 19:18.47 | litb | no, many libraries and ideas |
| 19:18.50 | annma | will gnome drop gtk to use portland? |
| 19:18.53 | benJIman | annma: http://lwn.net/Articles/163323/ |
| 19:18.54 | litb | just like plasma but bigger |
| 19:19.07 | litb | it will be hosted a freedesktop.org |
| 19:19.09 | annma | litb: plasma is not a widget lib |
| 19:19.13 | annma | plasma uses qt |
| 19:19.29 | litb | yes, i said like and not equal :) |
| 19:19.30 | annma | will be -> sounds it doe snot exist yet? |
| 19:19.46 | annma | <litb> annma, will portland replace qt? |
| 19:20.01 | annma | you suggested portland is a widget toolkit |
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| 19:20.17 | litb | also includes a widgets toolkit |
| 19:20.19 | litb | i think |
| 19:20.33 | litb | but i wasn't at this meeting where they talked about portland |
| 19:20.34 | annma | so will gnome use it? |
| 19:20.39 | litb | yes |
| 19:20.49 | annma | as a gtk replacement? |
| 19:20.49 | benJIman | annma: the article I linked to implies it's not a widget toolkit |
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| 19:21.22 | litb | hmm, just read http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/9008.html |
| 19:21.41 | litb | which doesn't said much about of portland |
| 19:21.42 | annma | what I am doing is pointing that people in general don't knwo what they are talking about |
| 19:22.03 | annma | I know there's not much known about portland |
| 19:22.08 | benJIman | it says very little at all |
| 19:22.18 | annma | that's why kde has not defined yet what it'll do |
| 19:22.25 | annma | as I said at first |
| 19:22.29 | litb | because of that i asked you to give me some knowledge about it, e.g if it will replace qt |
| 19:22.37 | litb | i'm a noob, i know ') |
| 19:22.41 | annma | is it meant to replace qt? |
| 19:22.58 | litb | no, it isn't as benJIman pointed out |
| 19:23.14 | annma | do you know how long qt has been developed? |
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| 19:23.22 | annma | this sole fact tells it all |
| 19:23.31 | litb | was it you who talked with me yesterday here? |
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| 19:24.03 | litb | since ~ 1995 ? don't know it really |
| 19:24.17 | litb | just know that kde was founded in 1998 |
| 19:24.17 | benJIman | all the article says is that a team of 4 people will work on cooperation, 4 people re-writing Qt in a short time is just not possible |
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| 19:24.22 | annma | so how a new new thing could replace such a toolkit? |
| 19:24.39 | litb | don't know |
| 19:24.46 | litb | it would be hard |
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| 19:25.11 | annma | yes so this portland is something else and only believe kde.org for what kde is about to do |
| 19:25.13 | litb | but it would be good for unix/linux and devs devels apps for it |
| 19:25.22 | annma | we do the best we can |
| 19:25.29 | annma | if you want to do better, join |
| 19:25.41 | litb | i already joined |
| 19:25.45 | annma | you know I hope how much kde follows freedesktop |
| 19:25.52 | litb | i've written serveral bug reports |
| 19:25.55 | annma | lol |
| 19:26.00 | annma | write patches please now |
| 19:26.05 | litb | and maybe i will learn qt and develop some apps... |
| 19:26.10 | annma | yes please |
| 19:27.21 | annma | for what KDE is about to support, please only refer to www.kde.org |
| 19:27.48 | annma | until it is stated here, we're not supported it |
| 19:28.33 | annma | which does not mean we are not interested |
| 19:29.34 | litb | ok, i will try to write some patches. lets see what will be my first one... |
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| 19:30.46 | annma | pick a JJ |
| 19:30.57 | annma | or a bug with a patch and apply it and see if it works |
| 19:31.11 | annma | any comment you add in a bug report will help |
| 19:31.30 | annma | especially as reporters often don't follow their bugs |
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| 19:33.32 | doktoreas | guys i got wrong keys only in kdm |
| 19:33.42 | doktoreas | inside kde is working fine my keyboard |
| 19:33.45 | doktoreas | what it can be? |
| 19:34.24 | annma | do you use a different keyboard in kde than the one set in X config? |
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| 19:35.06 | doktoreas | nope |
| 19:35.09 | doktoreas | it's the same |
| 19:35.19 | doktoreas | in kde the italian layout is ok |
| 19:35.25 | doktoreas | but not in kdm |
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| 19:35.38 | annma | what keyboard is it in kdm? |
| 19:36.27 | doktoreas | the A become Z |
| 19:36.45 | annma | distro? |
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| 19:37.28 | doktoreas | gentoo |
| 19:37.35 | litb | annma, sorry what is a JJ? |
| 19:37.41 | annma | I already saw that yesterday |
| 19:37.48 | annma | Junior Job |
| 19:38.05 | annma | which means a bug that we classify as easy to fix |
| 19:38.33 | annma | I maintain a list of JJ for KOffice currently |
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| 19:38.37 | litb | ah, like the image-crash? |
| 19:38.50 | annma | what image crash? |
| 19:39.07 | annma | is that an easy to fix bug?? |
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| 19:39.15 | litb | wasn't it you how tested konqui yesterday if it crashes? |
| 19:39.23 | annma | yes and it did not |
| 19:39.40 | annma | nobody was able to reproduce it, if I remember correctly |
| 19:39.53 | annma | so it's not a JJ as you first have to get it |
| 19:40.52 | litb | ah, so i fetch the recent koffice svn and hack... so i'm leaving now. bye |
| 19:41.37 | annma | especially as koffice will release in a few months |
| 19:41.51 | annma | you'll get fame |
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| 20:42.47 | texnofobix | Desktop Sharing |
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| 21:18.57 | JabberWokky | Anybody know how to save the font size in 3.5 konsole? Each time I reboot on my laptop, I have to Settings > Font > Shrink Font for each tab. Tried saving the profile, didn't work. |
| 21:19.33 | Chryseus | try save as default |
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| 21:20.04 | JabberWokky | Chryseus: Already tried that. |
| 21:20.23 | JabberWokky | I figured it was in the profile... there's no font setting in the Schema editor. |
| 21:20.42 | Chryseus | What distro do you have? |
| 21:20.47 | JabberWokky | Kubuntu. |
| 21:20.56 | Chryseus | I had similar problem with ubuntu but it worked fine in suse and gentoo |
| 21:21.17 | Chryseus | I don't know what's with kubuntu not saving those settings :/ |
| 21:21.29 | JabberWokky | Hunh. Are you sure it's the profile? If so, can you send me a working profile with a font setting? |
| 21:23.26 | Chryseus | Have you tried changing fonts from control panel? |
| 21:23.47 | Chryseus | *control center |
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| 21:23.56 | Chryseus | Panel is in windows :P |
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| 21:37.28 | Thorrn4 | hello!! can someone please help me sent up smb4k, its not working. it says that the "/home/ME" is mounted, but I cant get into it from smb4k or my other computer |
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| 21:37.37 | _poison | hi =) |
| 21:37.39 | Thorrn4 | hello!! can someone please help me sent up smb4k, its not working. it says that the "/home/ME" is mounted, but I cant get into it from smb4k or my other computer |
| 21:37.40 | Thorrn4 | s/sent/set |
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| 21:37.46 | _poison | you mounted it it your local box and try to access it from a different computer ? |
| 21:37.47 | Thorrn4 | yes _poison |
| 21:37.49 | Thorrn4 | but the mounted /home is "crosed out" |
| 21:37.49 | Thorrn4 | a red X |
| 21:37.51 | _poison | well ... usually you 'share' the folder on the computer the daa is on and mount it from where you want to access it .... |
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| 21:37.58 | Thorrn4 | I cant even access the mounted "/home" |
| 21:38.08 | Thorrn4 | I cant even Unmount it |
| 21:38.41 | _poison | have you cut the connection for a short time ? |
| 21:38.50 | Thorrn4 | yes I have :D |
| 21:39.01 | Thorrn4 | Its been off for awhile |
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| 21:39.49 | Thorrn4 | _poison, is that what is causing the problem? |
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| 21:40.02 | Thorrn4 | because it used to work |
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| 21:40.08 | _poison | Thorrn4: yes ... you have to unmount it before cutting the connection ... |
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| 21:40.26 | _poison | it's kind of annoying ... I know. ... |
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| 21:43.36 | _poison | Thorrn4: you can use kde's fish:// or lan://localhost/ (make sure lisa is running and configured)... you don't have such problems then ... |
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| 21:50.36 | Thorrn4 | _poison, what exactly do u need for me to do? fish:// doesnt work and lan://localhost brings me to the apache default page |
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| 21:53.16 | _poison | Thorrn4: try: ps aux|grep lisa |
| 21:53.29 | _poison | and see if lisa is running ... |
| 21:53.38 | Thorrn4 | in the console? |
| 21:53.49 | _poison | Thorrn4: yes ... |
| 21:54.03 | Thorrn4 | 9974 0.0 0.0 3696 600 pts/3 R+ 16:53 0:00 grep lisa |
| 21:54.04 | Thorrn4 | yea |
| 21:54.09 | Thorrn4 | I think so |
| 21:55.52 | _poison | Thorrn4: no ... thats only the grep command ... |
| 21:56.02 | _poison | Thorrn4: what distro do you have ? |
| 21:56.15 | Thorrn4 | Simply Mepis, its based on Debian |
| 21:56.35 | _poison | Thorrn4: hmmm ... run lisa as root ... |
| 21:56.51 | Thorrn4 | -su: lisa: command not found |
| 21:57.09 | Thorrn4 | root@3[~]# ps aux|grep lisa |
| 21:57.09 | Thorrn4 | root 9991 0.0 0.0 1640 484 pts/3 R+ 16:56 0:00 grep lisa |
| 21:57.12 | _poison | Thorrn4: su -c /opt/kde/bin/lisa |
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| 21:57.52 | _poison | darn ... |
| 21:58.04 | _poison | I don't know where your kdedir is ^^ |
| 21:58.04 | Thorrn4 | bash: /opt/kde/bin/lisa: No such file or directory |
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| 22:03.15 | madclicker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:06.00 | Blissex | madclicker: thats distribution dependent. |
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| 22:06.25 | embrik | can't find my usb-pen, using kde3 sarge |
| 22:06.41 | embrik | Have you got any tip? |
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| 22:06.50 | thegladiator | hi |
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| 22:08.25 | thegladiator | nyone |
| 22:08.25 | thegladiator | ? |
| 22:08.42 | pinotree | thegladiator: just ask |
| 22:09.27 | thegladiator | i need the ubuntu look to my kde |
| 22:09.41 | thegladiator | the task bar shud loo brownish orange |
| 22:09.45 | thegladiator | how do i do that ? |
| 22:09.56 | thegladiator | i fell in love with ubuntu's colors |
| 22:10.24 | thegladiator | i downlaoded a ubuntu theme actually |
| 22:10.30 | thegladiator | but wasnt enuf as expected |
| 22:10.33 | thegladiator | ny idea ? |
| 22:11.21 | Thorrn4 | _poison, I think that my kdedir is "/usr/share/kde" |
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| 22:11.54 | PhilRod | ~kdedir |
| 22:11.55 | apt | $KDEDIR is the directory your KDE is installed into. You can find out what directory this is with the command "kde-config --prefix" |
| 22:11.55 | _poison | Thorrn4: echo $KDEDIR |
| 22:12.49 | pinotree | thegladiator: well, ubuntu has gnome as default, so i think you should ask in #ubuntu |
| 22:14.03 | Thorrn4 | _poison, "/usr" |
| 22:14.27 | _poison | Thorrn4: then try: su -c /usr/bin/lisa |
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| 22:14.35 | Thorrn4 | as root _poison ? |
| 22:14.36 | thegladiator | i see |
| 22:14.38 | thegladiator | thanks |
| 22:15.06 | _poison | Thorrn4: su -c executes the command as root =) |
| 22:15.09 | embrik | why don't I find my usb-pen? |
| 22:15.24 | Thorrn4 | _poison, bash: /usr/bin/lisa: No such file or directory |
| 22:15.38 | _poison | Thorrn4: now thats strange =/ |
| 22:15.52 | _poison | Thorrn4: what kde version do you have ? |
| 22:16.14 | _poison | Thorrn4: do you have the kdenetwork package installed ? |
| 22:16.18 | Thorrn4 | 3.4.2 |
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| 22:18.53 | Thorrn4 | _poison, I'll install that now |
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| 22:19.38 | Thorrn4 | _poison, it is installed, what should I do now? |
| 22:20.29 | _poison | Thorrn4: I'm afk for a few minutes ... after you ran lisa as root, go into kde controlcenter-> Internet&Network -> local network browsing and configure lisa =) |
| 22:20.50 | Thorrn4 | ok....I hope I can do it |
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| 22:28.03 | Thorrn4 | _poison, I still cant get to the "lisa" program |
| 22:29.50 | frb | I used to be able to use kfmclient to download a music stream |
| 22:30.14 | frb | now it's saying that it can't find the url, which definitely exists because it's playing in amarok |
| 22:31.46 | Thorrn4 | can someone here help me re-set up smb4k - I turned it off for awhile and now it doesnt work |
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| 22:43.50 | skeff | is kde-artwork all I need for KDE/QT apps to look pretty? Right now Skype for instance looks like a wet dog smells |
| 22:45.13 | pinotree | skeff: weel, that package contains only a "selection" of styles |
| 22:45.25 | pinotree | on kde-look.org there are more other |
| 22:45.27 | pinotree | s |
| 22:45.49 | grepper | skeff: if it is a qt app rather than a kde app, that won't help you |
| 22:46.14 | skeff | ok, well Skype just uses the QT engine, so what do I need? |
| 22:46.34 | grepper | maybe fire up qtconfig and see if you like any of the others |
| 22:46.55 | grepper | which might affect your kde apps |
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| 22:52.17 | Skrotto | Just a usabilty thing; when you right-click a image in konqueror you get "Copy image.." shouldn't that be "Copy image URL.."? |
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| 22:53.08 | Gentle | Skrotto, I'd say so too, but you get used to it sooner or later |
| 22:53.17 | Gentle | but still, that's a really bad translation/naming |
| 22:53.31 | Skrotto | hehe, ofcourse, but it shouldn't be called copy image when it copies the image url |
| 22:53.55 | Skrotto | And for a while I acctually though konqi didn't have a function to copy the url of a image |
| 22:54.50 | Skrotto | That the copy image copied the image data (for insertion to image programs such as krita) rather than the url :) |
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| 23:12.31 | |buti| | (j #qt |
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| 23:22.40 | thegladiator | how di install icons ? |
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| 23:28.22 | stylish | anyone know how to change the menu icon |
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| 23:29.29 | pinotree | ~kmenu |
| 23:29.30 | apt | somebody said kmenu was at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213 |
| 23:29.30 | pinotree | ~k-menu |
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| 23:30.01 | pinotree | stylish: ^^^ as apt nicely said :) |
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| 23:42.46 | willwork4foo | lo |
| 23:43.59 | willwork4foo | I am nearing the end of a bit of an epic journey - I've been compiling KDE 3.5 since this morning |
| 23:44.05 | willwork4foo | and it's just about finishing now |
| 23:44.12 | willwork4foo | it's nearly midnight |
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| 23:44.39 | willwork4foo | All I have left to compile is kdeaddons and kdegames |
| 23:44.48 | geko | :| |
| 23:44.50 | pinotree | those are quick |
| 23:44.54 | geko | you could remove them |
| 23:45.12 | willwork4foo | I'm trying to do a full install of KDE 3.5 so I can do it justice |
| 23:45.14 | pinotree | i suggest you to compile before games and then addons |
| 23:45.25 | willwork4foo | I am doing them both at the same time |
| 23:45.31 | pinotree | :| |
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| 23:45.53 | pinotree | doing games before addons, you will able to compile atlantikdesigner |
| 23:45.54 | willwork4foo | if it doesn't work, then I will give up until slackware packages get released and I'll install those |
| 23:46.06 | willwork4foo | what the hell is atlantikdesigner? |
| 23:46.08 | willwork4foo | :) |
| 23:46.21 | straw | atlantikdesigner is so essential... ;) |
| 23:46.25 | willwork4foo | for what? |
| 23:46.27 | pinotree | a designer of boards for atlantik :) |
| 23:46.34 | willwork4foo | riiiight. |
| 23:46.39 | willwork4foo | sounds like I'm never going to need it |
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| 23:48.03 | Hybid | Y Halo Thar. How can i use different languages in different accounts? ^_^ |
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| 23:52.15 | hugelmopf | Hybid: every user can configure his country/language settings in the control center, isn't that enough? |
| 23:52.28 | Hybid | Yes i guess |
| 23:52.45 | Hybid | And where can i find the extra language i need? :3 |
| 23:52.49 | willwork4foo | oh my god! |
| 23:52.56 | willwork4foo | KDE 3.5 has FINISHED COMPILING!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 23:53.04 | Hybid | I mean. I have english atm, where can i find the Greek language pack? |
| 23:53.16 | Hybid | How long did it take willwork4foo 15hours? |
| 23:53.35 | willwork4foo | bout that. |
| 23:53.38 | hugelmopf | Hybid: if it does not show up in the control center, you will have to install it with your distributions package manager (look for kde-i18n packages) |
| 23:53.43 | Ravensky | is there much difference between 3.5beta2 and 3.5 final? |
| 23:53.48 | willwork4foo | right - time to log out of fluxbox and fire up KDE 3.5 |
| 23:53.54 | willwork4foo | bye for a few moments |
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| 23:54.11 | rellis | #linux |
| 23:54.25 | Hybid | Is there much difference between 3.4, 3.5? :P |
| 23:54.45 | Ravensky | a bit |
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