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00:06.58 | orace| | is this an official KDE channel? |
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00:07.31 | annma | yes |
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00:18.49 | frb | blah, whenever annma comes around, the access keys dialog doesn't appear |
00:20.17 | annma | lol |
00:20.28 | frb | the last 5 were for Mouse Kyes |
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00:21.54 | Chambers` | hi guys, got a question regarding kmail. Is it able to connect to exchange servers (like evolution) ? Not just IMAP. If not is that planned for the future? I think the connector is open source? Not sure i'm no programmer :) |
00:22.24 | illogic-al | Chambers`: nope. |
00:22.32 | frb | the connector is not open source |
00:22.39 | elvstone | hum. if i open a .glade file with glade-2 in konqueror, and tells it to remember "this program for this file type".. glade-2 takes over my gvim binding to .txt files.. how is that? :/ |
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00:22.54 | illogic-al | frb: think he's talking about ximian connector. |
00:23.02 | frb | illogic-al: I know he is |
00:23.10 | Chambers` | thanks frb |
00:23.19 | Chambers` | and illogic-al |
00:23.23 | frb | I used to work for them, I've packaged teh connector |
00:23.39 | elvstone | if i then open a .txt with gvim and tells it to remember that program, .glade files will open in gvim.. i can't see why.. |
00:23.48 | illogic-al | http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html |
00:23.53 | Chambers` | i'm surprised they didn't make it open source :/ |
00:23.57 | frb | if it was opensource, everyone and their brother would have made a native MAPI plugin for their mp3player and web browser by now |
00:24.08 | Chambers` | lol |
00:24.10 | frb | Chambers`: it's a licensing thing |
00:24.14 | illogic-al | frb: refer to the above link |
00:24.45 | frb | why is konq so friggin slow to start up |
00:24.47 | Chambers` | ahh, so it is open source? |
00:24.54 | illogic-al | yes. |
00:25.05 | Chambers` | neat, maybe in the future kmail will oncorporate it :) |
00:25.07 | frb | that was after I left |
00:25.17 | illogic-al | but that doesn't mean kmail has support cause it doesn't :-) |
00:25.20 | illogic-al | yet |
00:25.28 | Chambers` | you were probably holding them back from releasing it :P |
00:25.41 | elvstone | meh. good night. |
00:25.49 | illogic-al | I %amB a bastard |
00:25.57 | illogic-al | I am a bastard |
00:26.02 | illogic-al | there we go. |
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00:28.34 | Alethes | is there any reason smb:// wouldn't show me the full contents of a dir? |
00:28.43 | illogic-al | it sucks. |
00:28.55 | Alethes | I've got 4 gigs of mp3s on my wife's windows box and only 110 megs is showing up |
00:28.58 | Alethes | it used to work fine |
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00:29.12 | illogic-al | so did windows. |
00:29.24 | Alethes | hehe |
00:29.27 | Dhraakellian | has your wife been pruning your collection? |
00:29.30 | Alethes | no |
00:29.32 | illogic-al | then we all got smarter and moved on to something else. |
00:29.37 | Alethes | I was just at her computer and the files are all there |
00:29.43 | Dhraakellian | heh |
00:30.31 | illogic-al | [20:30] [DCOP] Error: Nothing is playing in amaroK |
00:30.59 | Dhraakellian | now playing: Stargarden - amaroK Live Magnatune Compilation - "Mural" |
00:31.04 | illogic-al | which loosely translates to "Lecture which I refuse to announce over IRC" |
00:31.25 | illogic-al | sad, my apps refuse to admit to being as nerdy as me. |
00:31.28 | Dhraakellian | lecture? |
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00:31.39 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: lecture |
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00:34.07 | Alethes | hmm smbmount worked fine |
00:34.12 | Alethes | I can see the files fine that way |
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00:42.00 | frb | there, It did it again! |
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00:42.35 | frb | warning - KDE Accessibility Tool ... Do You Want To Activate "Mouse Keys"? |
00:42.54 | Tm_T | :p |
00:44.46 | Tm_T | frb: why you did it |
00:45.21 | frb | I wasn't even on the KDE desktop at the time |
00:45.28 | frb | my mouse was on teh windows box via synergy |
00:46.10 | Tm_T | ok |
00:46.39 | madman91 | stupid ksirc |
00:47.09 | illogic-al | there's always konversation:-) |
00:47.16 | Tm_T | irssi <3 |
00:47.19 | frb | I've been using Konversation |
00:47.25 | frb | its like xchat without the suck |
00:47.40 | illogic-al | or ksirc without the stupid ? |
00:47.46 | illogic-al | nah. |
00:47.49 | frb | ksirc without the perl |
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00:47.55 | illogic-al | ksirc is nice. konvi is nicer though :-) |
00:49.11 | madman91 | konvi is a program? |
00:49.25 | madman91 | ill just urpmi it |
00:49.27 | illogic-al | madman91: yep. a kde irc client. |
00:49.34 | illogic-al | madman91: that works too :-) |
00:49.36 | Tm_T | madman91: irssi.org ! |
00:49.45 | illogic-al | madman91: konversation though, not konvi . |
00:50.08 | Tm_T | illogic-al: looks like you're winning this match... |
00:50.23 | Tm_T | but the war isn't over yet! ];= |
00:50.45 | illogic-al | Tm_T: you know you love konvi. |
00:51.09 | Tm_T | illogic-al: no I don't! |
00:51.20 | annma | ksirc does the job well enough |
00:51.22 | Tm_T | hmm, maybe I should try it again... |
00:51.43 | illogic-al | annma: I hear the windows guys saying the same thing :-p |
00:51.48 | Ringwraith` | but do the jobs blow |
00:51.52 | Ringwraith` | if the jobs blow ill try it |
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00:52.08 | annma | at least ksirc is not buggy |
00:52.36 | illogic-al | konvi isn't buggy. |
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00:52.44 | illogic-al | it has bugs. but it ain't buggy. |
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00:53.08 | Tm_Konversation | illogic-al: ok, what's so special? |
00:53.19 | illogic-al | [[wikipedia]] for one |
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00:53.27 | illogic-al | /media for another |
00:53.33 | illogic-al | /kdeversion |
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00:53.43 | Tm_T | ok, that was too much |
00:53.47 | illogic-al | icon themes for user list |
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00:54.02 | illogic-al | integrated konsole |
00:54.12 | illogic-al | kick ass notifcations |
00:54.19 | illogic-al | (thank you knotify) |
00:54.22 | Tm_T | illogic-al: gui, not fully usable with kboard, and builtin script flood nightmare |
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00:54.33 | Tm_T | don't like it |
00:55.02 | Tm_T | nocando, irssi is the client to me |
00:55.27 | illogic-al | so if theres some problem with that someone else will have to file a bug report |
00:55.46 | illogic-al | and the scripts don't get used unless you use them. |
00:56.00 | illogic-al | they also aren't built in, so you can easily just delete them |
00:56.07 | Tm_T | illogic-al: yeah, but when they are there, kids will find them |
00:56.09 | Tm_T | and use |
00:56.11 | Tm_T | :/ |
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00:56.17 | texnofobix | If I'm here I'll get to you. |
00:56.20 | illogic-al | and what's wrong with that. |
00:56.23 | frb | irssi kinda sucks when I'm on 5 channels across 2 networks |
00:56.29 | illogic-al | kids can't find and use irssi scripts? |
00:56.30 | Tm_T | frb: eh? |
00:56.33 | illogic-al | i know i have |
00:56.45 | Tm_T | illogic-al: bit harder, slows down ;) |
00:56.52 | illogic-al | color scripts are fun btw :-) |
00:57.09 | Tm_T | illogic-al: especially used allthetimeflooding ;) |
00:57.10 | illogic-al | Tm_T: konvi users are classier than that. |
00:57.20 | Tm_T | illogic-al: I hope so :) |
00:57.43 | Tm_T | frb: what's difficult |
00:58.11 | Tm_T | frb: sucks how |
00:58.16 | Tm_T | frb: speak to me! |
00:58.18 | frb | Tm_T: irssi is stuck in a terminal, no tabs, so I either need them all on teh screen or I need funktastic keybindings to swap windows |
00:58.19 | Tm_T | :p |
00:58.28 | illogic-al | hahah |
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00:58.33 | illogic-al | he said funktastic |
00:58.35 | Tm_T | frb: eeh, there's keybindings already |
00:58.41 | Tm_T | frb: builtin |
00:58.46 | frb | and they are funktastic |
00:58.55 | illogic-al | Tm_T: which don't work in a normal xterm. |
00:58.56 | ZackE | why would artssd load up whenever my computer turns on |
00:58.56 | Tm_T | frb: alt+# |
00:59.04 | ZackE | when i have the kde sound system disabled |
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00:59.10 | Tm_T | illogic-al: I don't use xterm |
00:59.12 | madman_temp | hey |
00:59.20 | madman_temp | guess who... its madman91 on konvi |
00:59.22 | Tm_T | illogic-al: and you can use escape key |
00:59.22 | frb | anyway, why use a console when I have all the KDE goodness? |
00:59.27 | illogic-al | Tm_T: I don't use kboard :-p |
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00:59.34 | Tm_T | illogic-al: I use mostly |
00:59.44 | Tm_T | hell lot easier |
00:59.51 | illogic-al | madman_temp: woot! |
00:59.57 | Tm_T | illogic-al: imagine over 20 tabs in konvi... |
00:59.57 | frb | I used console irc clients for about 10 years, I deserve a fuggin gui! |
01:00.09 | Tm_T | frb: ok ok, you can have it ;) |
01:00.11 | illogic-al | Tm_T: imagine sound notifications |
01:00.12 | frb | if you have 20 tabs, you need to get a life |
01:00.19 | illogic-al | Tm_T: imagine OSD notifications |
01:00.28 | Tm_T | illogic-al: yes, I can have em in irssi, but I dont use |
01:00.32 | illogic-al | Tm_T: imagine _built in wikipedia search_! |
01:00.35 | illogic-al | wikipedia man! |
01:00.39 | illogic-al | WIKIPEDIA! |
01:00.39 | Tm_T | haha |
01:00.51 | frb | imagine dragging a url from your client to a different desktop to load in your web browser |
01:01.07 | madman_temp | someone send a message directed to madman_temp |
01:01.10 | Tm_T | frb: nah, I don't even like if clicking an url opens it |
01:01.11 | frb | or middle-clck on a url to open in a new tab on the currently showing browser? |
01:01.16 | Tm_T | madman_temp: what? |
01:01.17 | frb | I do |
01:01.18 | illogic-al | madman_temp: arrr matey |
01:01.26 | frb | when you're a webmonkey, you use a lot of URLs |
01:01.29 | ZackE | why would the process artssd load up whenever my computer turns on when i have the kde sound system not checked? |
01:01.45 | Tm_T | </clientwar> |
01:01.51 | illogic-al | ZackE: some other app that starts up is using it too |
01:01.53 | illogic-al | like juk |
01:01.57 | illogic-al | or noatun |
01:02.07 | frb | its obvious, I'm old, you're younger, I win, resepct your elders |
01:02.14 | Tm_T | frb: yes =) |
01:02.14 | illogic-al | hahahah |
01:02.21 | Tm_T | frb: I'm young?!! |
01:02.30 | frb | no no, just younger |
01:02.37 | ZackE | illogical-al: how could i found out whats loading |
01:02.49 | Tm_T | frb: hmm, you're over 75? |
01:02.55 | illogic-al | what apps are running that play sound/music |
01:02.59 | frb | I am 1000 years old |
01:03.03 | Tm_T | ok :) |
01:03.07 | illogic-al | hahah |
01:03.09 | ZackE | illogical-al: none that i know of currently |
01:03.28 | illogic-al | ctrl+esc will show currently running apps |
01:03.52 | ZackE | is kde system guard ok? |
01:04.01 | frb | for what it does |
01:04.02 | ZackE | ctrl+esc loads up kde bar |
01:04.23 | ZackE | the K part of it |
01:05.09 | illogic-al | in that case |
01:05.12 | illogic-al | ksysguard |
01:05.49 | madman_temp | is there anyway to make konversation look like ksirc... |
01:05.53 | madman_temp | ksirc looks classier |
01:06.11 | illogic-al | madman_temp: nope |
01:06.13 | annma | heu, run ksirc instead? |
01:06.22 | Sho_ | madman_temp: I'm afraid the Konvi devs disagree. If you like KSirc, use KSirc :) |
01:06.31 | annma | wish: skin konvi as ksirc!!! |
01:06.32 | illogic-al | heheh |
01:06.38 | illogic-al | annma: ew |
01:06.42 | annma | :))) |
01:06.50 | illogic-al | now illogic-al ruins after annma |
01:06.55 | illogic-al | s/ruins/runs |
01:06.57 | madman_temp | quick question to test you guys... where can i access file associations |
01:07.02 | annma | hey hey, I am far away |
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01:07.06 | illogic-al | right there |
01:07.10 | Sho_ | KControl -> KDE Components -> File Associations |
01:07.11 | illogic-al | don't you see it? |
01:07.12 | annma | in kcontrol, madman_temp |
01:07.25 | madman_temp | lol thanks annma |
01:07.47 | annma | I knew someone would give the right path |
01:07.53 | ZackE | im back sry was away |
01:07.57 | illogic-al | i think it's time for some UT2k4 |
01:08.01 | ZackE | i dont see any apps that would use sound |
01:08.02 | illogic-al | anyone wanna play me? |
01:08.07 | Sho_ | illogic-al: hear, hear! |
01:08.09 | ZackE | that would start artsdsp to load up |
01:08.13 | Tm_T | illogic-al: I have only demo |
01:08.16 | ZackE | i only have the demo |
01:08.21 | madman_temp | how would i stop kde from launching k3b for a blank dvd or totem player for a dvd video? |
01:08.21 | Sho_ | want, yes. can't - 3:10 AM, time for bed :) |
01:08.23 | illogic-al | Sho_: sweet! |
01:08.29 | ZackE | can demo ppl play together? |
01:08.30 | madman_temp | illogic-al: i would but i wont install today |
01:08.32 | illogic-al | shall you choose a server or shall i? |
01:09.01 | illogic-al | ZackE: Tm_T yeah, they can |
01:09.04 | Ringwraith` | hi annma |
01:09.06 | Ringwraith` | how are you |
01:09.12 | ZackE | illogical-al you have the demo? |
01:09.16 | annma | puzzled, Ringwraith` |
01:09.17 | Tm_T | illogic-al: I know, but it limits afaik |
01:09.34 | ZackE | illogical-al Tm_T, you want to play unreal 04 demo :) ? |
01:09.35 | illogic-al | Sho_: heh. didn't even see your reply :-). some other time then. |
01:09.42 | Sho_ | illogic-al: sure :) |
01:09.43 | illogic-al | ZackE: no, full game. |
01:09.48 | Sho_ | g'night guys |
01:09.50 | Tm_T | :) |
01:09.55 | annma | bye Sho_ |
01:09.59 | ZackE | how much does the game cost btw |
01:09.59 | illogic-al | night shin :-p |
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01:10.19 | solemnwarning | hi all |
01:10.25 | Tm_T | hi |
01:10.36 | illogic-al | ZackE: i don't know If i can play w/ the demo version, but I can try |
01:10.48 | solemnwarning | how can i configure the shortcut volume up\down\mute button on a keyboard? |
01:10.53 | madman91 | no you cant |
01:10.58 | madman91 | demos only play with demos |
01:10.59 | illogic-al | ZackE: Tm_T one of you have to start a server though. i know you wont be able to connect if i start one |
01:11.02 | madman91 | reals only play with reals |
01:11.03 | ZackE | damn |
01:11.10 | madman91 | i tried before |
01:11.14 | ZackE | i guess i should buy the game... |
01:11.14 | illogic-al | ZackE: like $9 on the internet |
01:11.17 | Tm_T | illogic-al: heh, not with this connection |
01:11.17 | madman91 | but illogic-al can download the demo |
01:11.31 | ZackE | can i buy a download to the game? |
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01:11.45 | ZackE | so i dont have to wait for shipping or go somewhere physically |
01:11.49 | Frederick | does kde has a system monitor? |
01:11.55 | madman91 | ZackE: i know of a site called direct2drive.com but its for windows games |
01:12.03 | madman91 | and you have to subscribe |
01:12.05 | illogic-al | ZackE: not that i know of |
01:12.15 | Frederick | found it thx folks |
01:12.22 | illogic-al | Frederick: ksysguard |
01:12.31 | ZackE | well ill buy it i guess sometime |
01:12.34 | ZackE | anyway... |
01:12.45 | ZackE | how can i found out what app opens artsdsp |
01:12.48 | ZackE | it makes no sense |
01:12.59 | ZackE | as im not running anything that requires sound |
01:15.13 | solemnwarning | how can i configure the shortcut volume up\down\mute button on a keyboard? |
01:16.19 | Ringwraith` | solemnwarning, get out that soldering iron bud ;p |
01:16.33 | thiago | ZackE: run artscontrol |
01:16.47 | thiago | solemnwarning: make sure kmilo is running |
01:16.52 | ZackE | ill try that |
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01:20.50 | orace| | hey er |
01:21.01 | orace| | there's a free slot for a woman here |
01:22.12 | Ringwraith` | do you want me to connect that slot |
01:22.33 | orace| | er |
01:23.57 | ZackE | thiago: artscontrol: command not found |
01:24.19 | thiago | ZackE: too bad. Your aRts installation is broken. |
01:24.54 | ZackE | umm ok |
01:25.30 | thiago | artscontrol is the program that can tell you which applications are using arts |
01:26.06 | ZackE | im using gentoo, know if i can emerge it with something? |
01:26.41 | ZackE | arts is emerged |
01:28.09 | thiago | well, you tell me |
01:28.24 | thiago | artscontrol is part of kdemultimedia |
01:28.32 | snugglemonkey | ZackE: did you emerge kde-meta or not? |
01:28.47 | ZackE | oh god here it comes |
01:29.04 | ZackE | no a ...ebuild! |
01:29.28 | ZackE | of 3.5 beta 1 |
01:29.32 | snugglemonkey | ah. |
01:29.43 | snugglemonkey | ZackE: report it as a bug on gentoo bug tracker |
01:29.53 | thiago | or not |
01:30.00 | snugglemonkey | ZackE: chances are, it got missed. |
01:30.03 | thiago | artscontrol may simply be in a separate ebuild |
01:30.20 | Alethes | wow amarok has a ton of deps when installing it from fbsd ports |
01:30.29 | ZackE | im going to quickly search their forums for artscontrol and see if anybody said anything about it |
01:30.30 | snugglemonkey | The kde-meta build for 3.5 beta 1 should include EVERYTHING kde. |
01:30.40 | ZackE | i didnt do kde-meta |
01:30.44 | snugglemonkey | ah. |
01:30.53 | snugglemonkey | ZackE: which one did you do? |
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01:31.35 | ZackE | kde-base/kdebase-startkde |
01:32.12 | snugglemonkey | ZackE: check the ebuild by that name in /usr/port... and see if it lists what you seem to be missing... that's my best guess. |
01:32.32 | ZackE | ok |
01:38.00 | ZackE | well i dont see how i can get artscontrol without emerging kde meta so im going to go back to my problem |
01:38.14 | ZackE | is there a way i can make artsdsp shutdown or not load on startup |
01:38.20 | ZackE | even though i dont know why its loading |
01:38.54 | Ringwraith` | you can shut it down via dcop probably |
01:39.05 | Ringwraith` | or -x the executable |
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01:45.01 | Chambers` | hey guys, is there a way in kmail to set imap folders to download everything locally and syncronize? |
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02:09.43 | ZackE | can i make a script that would disable the kde sound system and close artsdsp |
02:11.50 | Hobbsee | ZachE: not sure about closing artsdsp, but in kcontrol, there's an option in kde 3.5 beta to disable the sound system |
02:16.51 | ZackE | k |
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02:17.15 | jago | does any body know why i cant log login as any body but root? when i try to log in onder my normal login ist just shoots me back to kdm |
02:19.39 | Dhraakellian | try logging in as another user? |
02:20.57 | Alethes | anybody here have a working photoshop in wine? |
02:21.13 | jago | i have, the only user that works is root, i did a dist upgrade and now none of the users work |
02:22.05 | Hobbsee | jafo: does everything else look to be working, except for teh fact that you can only login as root? |
02:22.09 | Hobbsee | this is kubuntu breezy, btw |
02:22.14 | Hobbsee | *jago |
02:22.26 | jago | yes |
02:22.48 | jago | and yes, thankk you |
02:23.20 | Hobbsee | *wonders if the dist install screwed up* |
02:23.25 | Hobbsee | *dist upgrade |
02:25.14 | jago | i dont know, but i tried to do it again and see if it fixed the problem but it wount let me re do it and i dont know how to un do it |
02:25.27 | Hobbsee | do you have a kubuntu install cd? |
02:25.33 | jago | yes |
02:25.37 | Hobbsee | a breezy one? |
02:25.48 | Hobbsee | like the RC or a daily cd? |
02:25.52 | jago | know the hurray |
02:26.03 | Hobbsee | huh? |
02:26.05 | jago | sorry spelling |
02:26.33 | Hobbsee | oh ok...fingers are cold = bad spelling lol |
02:26.45 | Hobbsee | if you have an RC or daily cd of breezy, install of that |
02:26.59 | jago | no huray hedgehog |
02:26.59 | Hobbsee | the dist upgrades tend to be more risky, and as you found, didnt work terribly well this time |
02:27.25 | Hobbsee | you on dialup or dsl/cable? |
02:27.30 | jago | cable |
02:28.00 | jago | should i down load the cd |
02:28.00 | Hobbsee | want to download a breezy cd? |
02:28.06 | jago | yes |
02:28.08 | Hobbsee | yeah, i'll give you a link to the latest one |
02:28.14 | Alethes | haha I ran winzip in wine just to test it and it even puts the systray icon in kde's systray |
02:28.14 | jago | thanks |
02:28.23 | Hobbsee | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/ |
02:28.33 | snugglemonkey | jago: did you build kde as a certain user? or did you use some sort of RPM or something of the like? |
02:28.58 | jago | know it just came installed |
02:29.00 | Hobbsee | snugglemonkey: it would have already been compiled as part of the hoary cd |
02:29.13 | Hobbsee | :P |
02:29.51 | Hobbsee | lol |
02:29.57 | Hobbsee | at least the channel is quiet |
02:29.58 | jago | what link do i select? (current) |
02:30.23 | Hobbsee | yeah |
02:30.34 | Hobbsee | then grab the one for your architecture |
02:32.09 | jago | thank you |
02:32.33 | Hobbsee | no problems |
02:32.47 | Hobbsee | i had the same problem when trying to dist upgrade the second time... |
02:32.54 | Hobbsee | ended up reinstalling hoary |
02:33.39 | jago | shoot so i am going to loose every thing????? :( |
02:34.29 | jago | i tried adding a new user and the new user didn't work ither |
02:34.34 | jago | either |
02:34.57 | Hobbsee | do you have a backup? |
02:35.03 | Hobbsee | or /home on a separate partition? |
02:35.41 | jago | no but i can back up every thing on my partition for sharing with windows |
02:35.46 | Hobbsee | if not, create one when you reinstall, and try and make a backup |
02:35.48 | Hobbsee | good idea |
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02:36.31 | jago | yeah i tried to creat a home folder on the other partition when i added a login for my wife but it would not work |
02:37.19 | jago | but hey, may be if i reinstall my burner and cd player will work?? i hope |
02:37.46 | Hobbsee | you were trying to write to ntfs? |
02:37.55 | Hobbsee | just burn everything to cd, that's safer |
02:38.04 | Alethes | how much bandwidth am I going to be using if I listen to streaming audio? (I've got 20 gigs a month) |
02:38.08 | Hobbsee | all the hidden files in /home as well, as they are a lot of the configurations |
02:38.53 | jago | ok but my burner won't work in lynux, dont know why |
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02:39.45 | Hobbsee | well copy the files over to windows then and burn from there |
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02:39.52 | Hobbsee | ther'es an ext2/3 reader |
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02:40.30 | jago | what is the ext2/3 reader |
02:41.08 | Hobbsee | reads your linux files from windows, and can extract them, as long as the partition is either ext2 or ext3 |
02:41.12 | jago | sorry not as good in linux as id like to be...working on it |
02:42.17 | jago | do you meen i should set up a new partition that is not ntfs or fat |
02:42.39 | SMiLeaf | ext2 and ext3 are the ntfs and fat of linux. |
02:43.19 | jago | ok so widows will read them??? |
02:43.20 | SMiLeaf | they are filesystems just like ntfs and fat. only windows doesn't have direct support for them. you can however install something that'll allow windows to read them. |
02:43.32 | jago | what |
02:43.37 | jago | ?? |
02:43.42 | SMiLeaf | ... |
02:43.49 | SMiLeaf | what's the question? |
02:44.06 | jago | what can i install to read them from windows |
02:44.20 | jago | and why is fat32 bad |
02:44.34 | SMiLeaf | fat32 is good because linux can write to it ;) |
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02:45.23 | SMiLeaf | it's not good because you can't do advance permissions that linux uses extensively. |
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02:46.00 | jago | so the fat 32 partition that i have been using to swap files back and forth is good but why cant i use it for my home? |
02:46.30 | SMiLeaf | you can... it's just not very good. |
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02:47.00 | jago | sorry if my questions seem dum but like i said i am not as good in linus as i am in windows yet |
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02:47.27 | SMiLeaf | not a problem |
02:47.46 | smithjd | unix permissions do not apply properly to fat32 partitions. |
02:48.29 | smithjd | since file permissions are an integral part of what makes linux so powerful, they are used in creative ways by unix applications. |
02:48.29 | SMiLeaf | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd <--- Windows driver to read from EXT2 Filesystems |
02:49.16 | SMiLeaf | Ext2fsd <--- Think this one is what you want. |
02:49.39 | smithjd | if these applications expect to be able to use permissions on specific filesystems (ie fat32) and are unable to, they may behave in unexpected ways. |
02:50.13 | smithjd | like not working at all. |
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03:11.21 | dcop | hi :P |
03:11.24 | dcop | aseigo: are you here? |
03:11.36 | Alethes | man, wine has come a long way over the years |
03:11.42 | Alethes | photoshop is running great |
03:13.27 | Dhraakellian | Alethes, comparing it to The GIMP and Krita? |
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03:44.59 | Petrus | what's the name of the kde developer channel again? |
03:45.07 | Petrus | kdedev and kdedevel aren't it |
03:45.28 | Alethes | #kde-devel |
03:45.29 | chavo | Petrus, #kde-devel |
03:45.44 | Petrus | thanks |
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03:48.51 | themusicgod1 | klipper is launching in a window instead of the 'notification area' where it's supposed to (in gnome). Gnome help suggests that it's an internal setting to klipper, yet it's --help files do not suggest this. Is there an internal setting for klipper to launch on the taskbar/'notification area' when run? |
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03:51.51 | cirehawk | Anyone around tonight? |
03:52.09 | themusicgod1 | define 'anyone' |
03:52.48 | cirehawk | lol anyone = musicgod. |
03:54.19 | cirehawk | Actually, I was hoping to find someone familiar with the KDE wireless configuration tool. |
03:58.21 | themusicgod1 | over my head, sorry :) |
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05:23.23 | D3M0N | I seem to be having a problem compiling kdebase 3.4.2 on Desktop/LX, qt3, arts, and kdelibs all compiled without any issues, but kdebase errors out in khotkeys/konctrol |
05:23.27 | D3M0N | kcontrol* |
05:27.19 | chavo | D3M0N, waht's the error? |
05:27.47 | D3M0N | chavo: its on another computer, let me log into irc there real quick |
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05:31.30 | D3M0N1 | Ok,here it is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/soYWYi62.html |
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05:46.07 | D3M0N | chavo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/soYWYi62.html |
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07:08.42 | pirving | kde runs so well, nobody says anythig here |
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07:10.00 | bmud2 | lol |
07:11.25 | chimaera | ok, so i have a little one, just to keep you occupied: how can is set the folder kmail starts with? it starts in local folders which i don't use (imap).. |
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07:31.31 | lpz | how could it be that when I use konqueror as a web browser, I can't get decent looking view of the pages? Even if I change the fonts it only affects .html files. What could be the problem? |
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07:34.37 | lpz | when I change the fonts, I expect the web page to be reloaded with the fonts, but it always looks the same no matter which font I use! |
07:36.03 | PhilRod | web pages can specify their own fonts |
07:36.17 | PhilRod | you can tell konq to always override certain settings - probably the font too |
07:36.51 | lpz | but I can't choose the fonts I want to be displayed |
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07:37.36 | lpz | how could it be that I can't surf the web because I can't see the pages well ? |
07:37.38 | lpz | it's crazy |
07:37.46 | PhilRod | make a simple test page like "<html><head></head><body>Hello</body></html>", load it in konq, and change the font. Does that work? |
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07:37.54 | lpz | One sec. |
07:38.51 | lpz | PhilRod, yes, with such a .html page I can change fonts. |
07:39.18 | lpz | PhilRod, but with most of the websites this doens't work like this .html |
07:40.13 | lpz | how could it be? |
07:40.13 | PhilRod | go to settings -> configure konq -> stylesheets -> use accessbility stylesheet |
07:40.19 | lpz | one sec. |
07:40.27 | PhilRod | there you can set a font, and select "use same font family for all text" |
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07:42.17 | spiral | hi |
07:42.33 | PhilRod | hiya spiral |
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07:45.43 | lpz | PhilRod, ok your method did change the fonts in the websites that I couldn't change |
07:46.10 | lpz | PhilRod, problem is that the webpages has no "feel" to them |
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07:50.42 | lpz | it's too difficult to use linux...... |
07:50.57 | lpz | if one can't enter most of the webpages then it doesn't worth it |
07:51.38 | lpz | it doesn't make sense |
07:52.05 | lpz | how could it be that I can't surf the web??? it's crazy |
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07:52.22 | Pixels- | what browser are you using? |
07:52.29 | Pixels- | konq? |
07:52.35 | lpz | Pixels-, konq and firefox |
07:52.42 | Pixels- | same problems in ff ? |
07:52.48 | lpz | in both I can't get any decent fonts |
07:52.54 | lpz | Pixels-, ff? |
07:52.58 | Pixels- | firefox |
07:53.00 | Pixels- | sorry |
07:53.08 | lpz | Pixels-, yes firefox too |
07:53.14 | Pixels- | woerd |
07:53.18 | Pixels- | wierd* |
07:53.28 | lpz | Yeah! Too weird! |
07:53.31 | PhilRod | do you just mean that there aren't any fonts that you like installed on your system? |
07:53.47 | lpz | PhilRod, no, not at all. I have good fonts. |
07:54.00 | lpz | PhilRod, the problem is I can't use the fonts I want. |
07:54.27 | lpz | PhilRod, it's seems as though there is one default font to be used with all the websites, except to .html files |
07:55.03 | PhilRod | perhaps a screenshot will explain what you mean a little better |
07:55.38 | lpz | Ok |
07:55.49 | lpz | One moment it will take me two minutes |
07:56.31 | chimaera | i have customized my konqueror sidebar, and everything is fine when starting konqi manually, but when it gets started by the session-manager on kde-startup, my customizations aren't there.. |
07:56.46 | chimaera | which profile ist the session manager calling? |
07:57.39 | lpz | which program takes snapshots please? |
07:58.21 | chimaera | ksnapshot |
07:58.33 | lpz | ok. |
07:58.35 | lpz | thanks. |
07:58.38 | chimaera | np |
07:59.14 | chetanr | does anyone know if mandriva's new interactive firewall is qt/kde based? |
08:00.47 | pirving | please switch to Slackware |
08:02.27 | lpz | here is the snapshot: |
08:02.28 | lpz | http://80.178.88.28/firefox.png |
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08:03.09 | pirving | Free os? |
08:03.27 | pirving | I'm using firefox beta 2 |
08:04.13 | lpz | Agree with me that the fonts are horrible, right? |
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08:04.50 | pirving | oh |
08:04.51 | Katagia | Good morning. I have a little design problem with kde 3.4 I use the baghira theme. I put the menu at the top of the display (controlcenter -Y desktop -> behavior) OS-x style. Unfortunatly only the left part is useable I see some left/right arrows to scroll the menuitems. Where can I remove them? I haven'T found it in controlcenter. I made a picture of my screen: |
08:04.51 | pirving | fonts |
08:05.00 | Katagia | http://141.7.87.2/~tilo/Bildschirmphoto1.png Any idea |
08:05.03 | pirving | thats eawsy |
08:05.05 | pirving | easy |
08:05.14 | pirving | go into the control center |
08:05.19 | pirving | do you have the control center? |
08:05.23 | lpz | pirving, me? |
08:05.27 | benJIman | kontrol won't affect firefox fonts |
08:05.34 | pirving | it fixed mine |
08:06.00 | pirving | it takes a while to load |
08:06.00 | lpz | pirving, are you talking to me? |
08:06.11 | pirving | turn off the font aliasing |
08:06.15 | pirving | under the fonts area |
08:06.39 | benJIman | you want to have the bytecode interpreter enabled before you turn of antialiasing or they look really bad |
08:06.40 | pirving | or turn on, whatever the case |
08:07.10 | pirving | by clicking that check box, I was able to have much better fonts |
08:07.32 | lpz | ok, how do I get into control center? |
08:07.34 | pirving | just FYI to you all |
08:07.44 | pirving | under the K panel |
08:07.57 | lpz | ok kcontrol |
08:08.08 | benJIman | http://www.opensuse.org/Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_on_SuSE might help |
08:08.16 | pirving | yes |
08:08.20 | pirving | your right |
08:08.23 | pirving | appearence and themes |
08:08.25 | pirving | fonts |
08:08.25 | mb- | OMG |
08:08.28 | mb- | ITS SUSE |
08:08.33 | pirving | use anti-aliasing fonts |
08:08.53 | pirving | did you see the screen shot? |
08:09.01 | pirving | it looked just like mine |
08:09.08 | lpz | pirving, it's already checked |
08:09.15 | lpz | oh turn off |
08:09.15 | lpz | sec |
08:09.23 | pirving | then restart K |
08:09.24 | benJIman | lpz: click configure and increase hinting to full |
08:09.33 | pirving | it's just a check box |
08:09.36 | pirving | thats all |
08:10.00 | pirving | under the Kontrol, Appearence and themes, Fonts, Aliasingblahblah |
08:10.01 | benJIman | fonts look horrible with freetype without antialiasing unless you enable the bytecode interpreter or put hinting to full |
08:10.10 | bmud2 | totally agreed |
08:10.36 | lpz | pirving, oh oh that worked! it's much better now! but not perfect yet. |
08:10.41 | pirving | AH HA |
08:10.45 | pirving | a little better |
08:10.47 | pirving | allright |
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08:11.03 | pirving | progress, now I think benjamin has some things to try |
08:11.13 | lpz | OK, cool thanks!!! |
08:11.29 | lpz | Can I also change the fonts from kcontrol? |
08:11.40 | benJIman | not the firefox fonts |
08:11.42 | pirving | no |
08:11.46 | lpz | ok. |
08:11.49 | pirving | firefox is a bit poopy |
08:12.15 | pirving | I have tiny fonts, but I live with them. Your better off running a 640 by 480 resolution in ex |
08:12.17 | pirving | X |
08:12.31 | pirving | if you want it to look bigger |
08:12.43 | lpz | Wow Amazing! I can finally get into webpages!!! |
08:12.53 | pirving | lemme see a screamshot? |
08:12.57 | lpz | Sure! |
08:13.02 | pirving | lol |
08:13.18 | pirving | put it on your webserver |
08:14.45 | pirving | learning how to configure X is a long process |
08:14.54 | pirving | but a well worth one |
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08:16.13 | lpz | http://80.178.88.28/firefox2.png |
08:16.49 | pirving | much better, |
08:16.55 | pirving | do you have a nvidia card? |
08:16.56 | lpz | Indeed! |
08:17.05 | pirving | what type? |
08:17.09 | lpz | no, I use Ati Radeon X600Pro |
08:17.12 | pirving | Oh ok |
08:17.17 | pirving | I haven't worked with those drivers |
08:17.38 | lpz | it's the new drivers from the ATI website they work well until now. |
08:17.41 | pirving | I know they do exist |
08:17.55 | lpz | look at the fonts of the menus though |
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08:18.02 | lpz | they have became worse actually |
08:18.15 | lpz | maybe now it's the time to change the fonts in firefox itself? |
08:18.51 | pirving | time for a driver |
08:19.01 | pirving | Re-install |
08:19.21 | pirving | Just a guess, don't do if you don't think it's a good idea |
08:19.30 | pirving | or if you really want to have some fun, you can re-install |
08:19.59 | pirving | the entire OS |
08:20.02 | pirving | cfdisk |
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08:20.58 | lpz | pirving, it's a new debian installed :) |
08:21.06 | lpz | just installed it two weeks ago or so |
08:21.23 | pirving | but you said it was working well until now |
08:21.25 | pirving | ? |
08:21.28 | pirving | something has changed |
08:21.57 | pirving | debian takes forever to install |
08:22.15 | pirving | run slackware, it should be the distro of choice for everyone |
08:22.42 | pirving | just my opinion |
08:23.22 | lpz | pirving, everything still works well |
08:23.53 | lpz | pirving, just that the fonts now has changed with the menus of firefox. take a look at firefox.png and firefox2.png |
08:24.08 | pirving | um kay |
08:24.20 | pirving | you can try and change the them in Desktop Switching Wizzard |
08:24.23 | pirving | herd of it? |
08:24.25 | pirving | heard? |
08:24.33 | lpz | nope |
08:24.50 | pirving | it's in the hmmm |
08:24.56 | pirving | lemme find the command |
08:24.57 | pirving | her |
08:25.23 | Katagia | Good morning. I have a little design problem with kde 3.4 I use the baghira theme. I put the menu at the top of the display (controlcenter -Y desktop -> behavior) OS-x style. Unfortunatly only the left part is useable I see some left/right arrows to scroll the menuitems. Where can I remove them? I haven't found it in controlcenter. I made a picture of my screen: |
08:25.25 | Katagia | http://141.7.87.2/~tilo/Bildschirmphoto1.png Any idea |
08:26.01 | pirving | kpersonalizer |
08:26.05 | pirving | thats it |
08:26.46 | lpz | cool thanks, I'm in it |
08:27.00 | pirving | find a diff theme |
08:27.08 | pirving | one that has better fonts to your liking |
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08:27.23 | pirving | this helps me, but I don't know if this helps you |
08:27.30 | pirving | you can go back after the preview |
08:28.52 | lpz | pirving, help with konqueror actually! but not with firefox, but that's not too bad I'll fix it somehow I'm sure it's not a big problem |
08:29.10 | lpz | pirving, I'm still AMAZED with the tip you gave me!!!!! it's just AMAZING!!!!! |
08:29.14 | pirving | download firefox beta 2 |
08:29.23 | pirving | it's better than the 1.7 |
08:29.27 | pirving | or whatever it is |
08:29.31 | lpz | pirving, I was so miserable for a week I was hopeless! |
08:29.41 | pirving | way better fonts |
08:29.43 | pirving | where are you? |
08:29.46 | pirving | a/s/l? |
08:29.51 | lpz | pirving, sure I'll try it |
08:30.08 | pirving | www.getfirefox.com |
08:30.12 | pirving | install it to your user dir |
08:30.54 | lpz | 19 Israel male |
08:30.55 | pirving | 24/M/Oakland,Me |
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08:31.03 | pirving | allright |
08:31.04 | pirving | cool |
08:31.20 | pirving | USA |
08:31.25 | pirving | USA sucks right now |
08:31.29 | pirving | sorry |
08:31.40 | lpz | eheh Usa rulez :) |
08:31.46 | George | argh, please tell me people aren't ASL'ing on a KDE channel |
08:31.47 | George | :'( |
08:32.00 | pirving | George, can I at least know who I'm talking to |
08:32.17 | pirving | That gives me a little sense of I donno, fun to the channel |
08:32.18 | George | it really doesn't matter |
08:33.19 | lpz | pirving, hey, I really want to thank you again for your advice because it just simply MADE MY DAY!!! Thanks a LOT! I've to get dressed to work now so I have to go |
08:33.29 | lpz | pirving, THANKS AGAIN! |
08:34.44 | pirving | lpz your the man |
08:35.03 | lpz | eheh, thanks man :) hope to see you here again! |
08:35.15 | lpz | Gotta go, Laterz |
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08:41.22 | hyakki | how can i restart dcop without restarting kde? |
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08:54.47 | sredna | Hello |
08:57.23 | pirving | hi |
08:57.24 | pirving | hello |
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09:13.28 | pinotree | hello =) |
09:13.33 | sredna | Hi pinotree |
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09:35.10 | marcusU | Something weird is happening with my kmail now. When I reply to a message, it ends up getting send to me even though the Compose window says it's going to the sender of the original. |
09:38.19 | vardhman | something weird has happened with my KDE too, Somehow the proxy setting are not being used for connection, |
09:38.53 | vardhman | My PC which is behind a firewall is trying direct connection to sites and I always get timedout error |
09:40.08 | vardhman | I see the proxy been configured as manual but, dunno why Konqueror or IOslave is ignoring it, any suggestion what I should do? |
09:40.21 | marcusU | Well, this time I think it worked right. I don't know what the real is. I just know that twice in the past two days I have tried to reply to mail and ended up with in my mailbox instead of the place it should be going. |
09:41.07 | vardhman | marcusU: so your problem is solved, my still remains :( |
09:41.27 | marcusU | I'm worry. I don't really know much about network stuff like firewalls and proxy. |
09:42.07 | vardhman | Any one behind a proxy server here? |
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10:42.38 | sema4 | hello all. Anyone know how to setup kde to allow me to right click on a folder and open it with xmms? |
10:42.43 | saeed | hello |
10:44.18 | saeed | i am unable to access file on fat32 file system on my local partition how i can access it ? |
10:44.51 | sema4 | saeed: do you have read access to the filesystem ? |
10:45.19 | sema4 | saeed: im assuming you've mounted it already? |
10:45.51 | saeed | yeah it is alreay mounted |
10:46.21 | sema4 | saeed: what are the perms on the file? |
10:47.53 | Venson | sema4: save http://pastebin.com/387916 as ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/PlayInXmmsDir.desktop |
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10:48.13 | sema4 | Venson: tah |
10:48.41 | sema4 | nice |
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10:49.08 | Venson | i'm assuming you know how to access service menus in kde |
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10:50.20 | sema4 | Venson: dont think so |
10:50.33 | Venson | sema4: right-click -> Actions ..... |
10:50.56 | Venson | saeed: does the file have special characters in its name? |
10:51.00 | sema4 | oh ... i see ... that's what were calling them now |
10:51.01 | Tm_T | goodday to you, comrades |
10:51.28 | sema4 | Venson: im thinking saeed has the FS mounted as root ... but he isn't |
10:52.06 | Venson | easy to check, no? cat /etc/mtab and see what options he loaded it with.... |
10:52.08 | Venson | or maybe not :> |
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11:11.48 | tchino | hello, how can readjust the linkups at the start-screen of konqueror, because it doesn't go right |
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11:12.17 | pinotree | re |
11:12.21 | sredna | tchino: What is 'linkups'? |
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11:16.17 | tchino | sredna: the link buttons, where you can click (trash, network-folder, personal-folder etc.) |
11:16.52 | sredna | tchino: Try press F9 or go to window->show navigation panel |
11:17.45 | sredna | tchino: Ehm, what does it do that is not right? |
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11:19.33 | tchino | sredna: you have a start screen, when you click on the network-button (link = remote:/), then it comes the message: protoll will not be support) |
11:20.08 | sredna | tchino: What did you do with your KDE installation since that happened? |
11:21.11 | tchino | sredna: oh, i don't know the date |
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11:21.54 | orace| | lol |
11:21.58 | tchino | sredna: what do you have there for settings |
11:22.23 | sredna | tchino: But something must have happened to yuor KDE setup, either you cnahged the installation, or the configuration |
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11:23.11 | tchino | where can i change the configuration of kde start screen (linkups) |
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12:26.12 | Daemion | Blissex ? |
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12:46.27 | davidhouse | hey, how do i set up KDE to print to a server on my windows box? |
12:46.32 | davidhouse | i can access said box with samba |
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12:47.35 | [-D7-] | hello |
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12:48.25 | [-D7-] | is it the KDETalk.net server a private Jabber server or is connected to others Jabber servers ? |
12:49.15 | Tm_T | it's public jabber server afaik |
12:49.35 | [-D7-] | but I can't to see my GTalk contacts |
12:49.50 | Tm_T | Google talk is pirvate one |
12:50.01 | [-D7-] | ah, :-) |
12:50.06 | Tm_T | ;) |
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12:58.33 | Daemion | Blissex: ? |
13:01.13 | Blissex | Daemion: what happened>? |
13:02.20 | Daemion | Blissex: hi :) it seems as if i have solved my problems |
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13:02.35 | Blissex | Daemion: how was that done? |
13:03.01 | Daemion | Blissex: it seems as if the DNS forwarding of my router caused the problems |
13:03.21 | Daemion | Blissex: now i need about 12 secconds for renedering gmx.de in konqueror |
13:03.39 | Blissex | Daemion: that is somewhat unlikely -- it is hard to imagine that DNS forwarding causes large delays in the uplink packets... |
13:04.04 | Blissex | Daemion: what is more likely is that T-dialin reset the ADSL line and/or you got a different line. |
13:04.26 | Daemion | Blissex: maybe. but then i must have a bad line for several days |
13:04.35 | Daemion | +had |
13:04.40 | Blissex | Daemion: that happens fairly often actually. |
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13:05.12 | Daemion | Blissex: how long does your konqueror need to render www.gmx.de? i think 12 secconds are okay, rent they? |
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13:05.40 | Blissex | Daemion: yes, about 12 seconds... |
13:06.32 | Daemion | okay |
13:06.48 | Daemion | Blissex: i hope this wont happen to often again |
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13:09.06 | Blissex | Daemion: random telecom annoyances usually happen in batches, like 6 months it is OK, then the telecom people rearrange the lines or the equipment at the telephone exchange, and then it gets screwed up... |
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13:10.31 | Daemion | Blissex: as long as there is a workaround like using another browser i can live with it |
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13:42.12 | user0 | any kde 3.5 beta1 live cd's floating around? |
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13:51.13 | NullAcht15 | question: Konqueror gives me the ability to easily look up <term> in Wikipedia by typing wp:<term>. How do I tell it which language of Wikipedia to use? |
13:51.42 | NullAcht15 | It defaults to german on my machine, but I'd like it to default to english |
13:53.08 | [-D7-] | look in Settings of Konqueror |
13:53.27 | [-D7-] | Preferences ---> Settings |
13:54.23 | [-D7-] | and something like Quick access ( :/ icon ) |
13:54.29 | [-D7-] | NullAcht15, ok? |
13:54.34 | NullAcht15 | yes... |
13:54.41 | NullAcht15 | following you |
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13:55.46 | [-D7-] | my Konqueror has Spanish language, so I don't know how is in English or German |
13:55.46 | NullAcht15 | Are you suggesting altering the search URI to the english wikipedia? I tried that, it always reverts back to german |
13:56.41 | [-D7-] | then the problem isn't of Konqui, it's Google |
13:57.02 | NullAcht15 | erhm, I'm talking anout Wikipedia here |
13:57.10 | [-D7-] | soory |
13:57.51 | NullAcht15 | I know that Google doesn't even give you a chance to not use the country specific interface (well, maybe they do, but not by simply altering the URL) |
13:57.53 | [-D7-] | I'm going to try it |
13:58.02 | NullAcht15 | But wp doesn't do that |
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13:59.06 | [-D7-] | I have got http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=\{@}&go=Go |
13:59.10 | NullAcht15 | en.wikipedia.org will always present the english version, regardles of your ip or language settings. It's Konqueror/KDE that is reverting the URL back to de.wikipedia.org in its config |
13:59.14 | [-D7-] | with wp entry |
14:00.22 | [-D7-] | in my case , I have Spanish default lenguage, and in wp entry the English version of Wikipedia |
14:00.31 | [-D7-] | and works right |
14:01.29 | [-D7-] | NullAcht15, yes ... en.wikipedia.org will always present the english version, regardles of your language |
14:01.35 | NullAcht15 | maybe that was a conscious decision by the developers because the spanish wikipedia is not yet competitive. The german one is, but still not as god as the english |
14:01.50 | NullAcht15 | god=good |
14:02.06 | [-D7-] | evil=bad |
14:02.14 | [-D7-] | I see |
14:02.18 | [-D7-] | ;-) |
14:02.18 | NullAcht15 | hm, I can't say that, I'm atheist... |
14:02.46 | [-D7-] | I don't believe in atheism |
14:03.02 | NullAcht15 | don't worry. Atheism believes in you |
14:03.06 | NullAcht15 | ;) |
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14:03.52 | [-D7-] | I don't know why happen these in yor computer ... does it happen in Firefox too ? |
14:04.14 | NullAcht15 | erm, firefox doesn't have web-shortcuts? |
14:04.28 | [-D7-] | yes |
14:04.42 | NullAcht15 | so how could this happen in Firefox? |
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14:05.06 | volty | bash: 'dcop konqueror-7019 konqueror-mainwindow#2 action removecurrenttab ' writes to stdout 'DCOPRef(konqueror-7019,konqueror-mainwindow#2/action/removecurrenttab), how can I remove that tab actually? |
14:05.06 | [-D7-] | they named Quick Searches |
14:06.02 | NullAcht15 | Oh? I didn't know FF could do this, too. Could you point me to more info? |
14:06.05 | [-D7-] | NullAcht15, create a entry in Quick Searches , with Location = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s |
14:06.22 | [-D7-] | and Keyword = wp |
14:06.34 | [-D7-] | ( in Bookmarks ) |
14:08.07 | [-D7-] | type wp <word> in URL bar |
14:09.00 | [-D7-] | %s is replaced with <word> |
14:11.02 | [-D7-] | NullAcht15, ¿? |
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14:12.04 | NullAcht15 | yes? It works fine in FF, yes. Why shouldn't it, it's a completely different mechanism than the one in KDE, not tied to KDE at all |
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14:14.03 | [-D7-] | yes ..but we know now that is not problem of Wikipedia webpage |
14:15.00 | [-D7-] | but Konqueror and wp quick serarch work fine to me ...ummm |
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14:15.19 | NullAcht15 | hm, okay. The point is, when I switch the URL in the web-shortcuts config to en.wikipedia.org, save it, then go back to the config, it'll say de.wikipedia.org _again_ |
14:15.35 | NullAcht15 | maybe it's because I'm using the svn version |
14:15.51 | [-D7-] | ;-) |
14:16.29 | [-D7-] | I was in Germany the last summer...in Black Forest ..nice |
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14:17.34 | NullAcht15 | yep, nice region to spend the holidays. I'm living in northern germany, though |
14:18.20 | [-D7-] | :-P |
14:18.28 | [-D7-] | bye |
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14:20.40 | orangey | hey all! |
14:20.48 | orangey | is there some way to manage my movies in kde like amarok or such? |
14:20.53 | user0 | NullAcht15 it's probably wikipedia autodetecting the language based on your IP. google does this too iirc. might want to check their page on how to override it |
14:21.06 | orangey | something that might download some cover pictures and descriptions for me and the like? |
14:22.23 | NullAcht15 | user0: Thanks for your help, but no, it isn't. It's KDE rewriting it's configuration on its own accord |
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14:24.20 | NullAcht15 | To my knowledge, Wikipedia doesn't even have language detection |
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14:28.33 | sredna | orangey: Not that I know of, but look at www.kde-apps.com maybe |
14:29.05 | user0 | NullAcht15 when you run konq from command line, what url does it try and is it redirected? |
14:29.25 | sredna | NullAcht15: Maybe they use your browsers accept-language header, which in the case of konqueror is based on your language settings |
14:32.34 | SMiLeaf | nah.. it's konq's shortcuts. in mine it's set to en.wikapedia.com if the detection was true it'd make alot more sense to have it default to a non-language specific. |
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14:37.19 | NullAcht15 | user0: it tries de.wikipedia.org. There is no redirection, at least not to another hostname or language setting |
14:38.01 | NullAcht15 | sredna: No, Wikipedia does not use the accept-language header. They have a big Gateway page instead where you can choose your preferred language |
14:38.21 | sredna | So, the want to set cookies.. |
14:38.24 | sredna | :) |
14:40.32 | NullAcht15 | hm? no, It's simply a gateway page with lots of links to hosts like de.wikipedia.org, en.wikipedia.org, ja.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org... |
14:40.44 | NullAcht15 | ordinary HTML-links |
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14:41.51 | sredna | So it's not remembered. Then autodetecting based on the browser accept-language header would be a better choice ;) |
14:42.16 | NullAcht15 | I don't think so |
14:43.14 | sredna | Why not? Using that, given the user have correct system config it would allways be correct |
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14:43.55 | NullAcht15 | Well, the real problem is, when I change the redirection url for the wp: shortcut to en.wikipedia.org, save it, then go back to the config, it's set to de.wikipedia.org. I don't think it should do that |
14:44.25 | NullAcht15 | sredna: not in my case. My language setting is german, but I usually prefer the english Wikipedia |
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14:45.44 | sredna | In that case, a cookie could be a helpful tool then, along with a language switch on the page |
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14:48.03 | NullAcht15 | why? Anyone who wants can just bookmark de.wikipedia.org or fr.wikipedia.org or whatever directly |
14:48.22 | mrplant | what is the best app to configure gtk 1.2 applications |
14:48.24 | mrplant | ? |
14:48.35 | user0 | well NullAcht15 if your webcut is saved correctly it should first try the url you have entered before anything else. is your desktop file show correctly in $KDEHOME/share/services/searchproviders? or perhaps you missed the initial url request in all the debug clutter? |
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14:51.44 | NullAcht15 | hm, $KDEHOME/share/services/searchproviders/wikipedia.desktop does indeed show en.wikipedia.org. But the configuration dialogue for the web shortcuts insists on de... |
14:52.12 | user0 | are there any more .desktop files there with de.wikipedia? |
14:52.36 | NullAcht15 | no. This is the only file in that directory |
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14:53.50 | user0 | another wikipedia.desktop on your system somewhere? |
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14:56.43 | NullAcht15 | yes, $KDEDIR/share/services/searchproviders/wikipedia.desktop, but shouldn't that be overridden by settings in $KDEHOME? |
14:57.04 | user0 | nope but crazy things happen sometimes i've experienced |
14:57.37 | user0 | what is the url for that .desktop? |
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14:59.06 | user0 | ahh .. |
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15:01.08 | NullAcht15 | user0: there are a number of different urls listed there, with language suffixes. (like Query[de], Query[fi]). That might be the reason why it doesn't work as expected |
15:01.17 | user0 | yep check that your $KDEHOME desktop has Query[de]=http://en.* |
15:01.57 | NullAcht15 | That works. I'd still call it a bug, though |
15:02.09 | user0 | ok what was it before? just Query=? |
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15:02.15 | NullAcht15 | Just Query |
15:02.18 | user0 | ahh |
15:02.23 | user0 | what is your language setting now? |
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15:03.03 | NullAcht15 | de for KDE, wp: resolves to en.wikipedia.org now (like I wanted it to) |
15:03.13 | cavurn | I have RPMd Helix player. IHow can I use it as a plugin for the browser. Right now he browser is using KMPlayer intigrated but I dont think as a plugin. |
15:03.30 | user0 | im guessing when you made your change to the webcut your language setting was not German? |
15:05.01 | user0 | yes id probably call it a bug too depending on how it came about. although i cant really think of why it shouldnt work as expected in any case. u should report it imo anyhow |
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15:12.58 | user0 | cavurn mirage dune, does the browser recognize the plugin? |
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15:14.49 | dune | user8: I dont think so. I tried scan plugin and it only recognized my flash player. Maybe I need to somehow enable helix in konsole? |
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15:15.46 | dune | user0: I had to enable my flash in order for it to be recognized by the scanner |
15:17.16 | dune | Not sure how to do that though |
15:18.39 | user0 | hmm as i recall i think there should be .so files in ~/.mozilla/plugins or something correct? |
15:18.56 | Ringwraith` | yes |
15:19.06 | Ringwraith` | those are share library objects |
15:19.10 | Ringwraith` | kind of like a windows dll |
15:19.16 | Ringwraith` | except only better |
15:19.22 | Ringwraith` | not voted, virus infected, etc. |
15:19.25 | Ringwraith` | er bloated |
15:19.31 | dune | ok I'll check What does so dtand for? |
15:20.02 | user0 | i dont have my kde machine handy to see right now but as i recall i have had the helix embedded player work in konq albeit with some scripting problems |
15:20.13 | user0 | i think so is system object or something |
15:20.30 | Ringwraith` | konq is compatable with the nsplugin api |
15:20.36 | user0 | ya |
15:20.37 | dune | an object instead of a library, interesting. |
15:20.40 | Ringwraith` | you *shouldnt* have any problems with the plugin itself |
15:21.57 | user0 | i recall that pages using javascript to control the player never quite worked the way i thought it should, myself. i never really checked into it more than that tho |
15:22.00 | [_]illogic-al | user0: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html |
15:22.08 | NullAcht15 | it's basically the same thing as a dll. There is no fundamental difference. It's certainly not an object as in OOP or OOD |
15:22.46 | dune | This is for konqueror though, not Firefox. |
15:23.03 | dune | So I dont think it would be in that mozilla directory? |
15:23.33 | Ringwraith` | if im not mistaken konqueror picks up the stuff i nthe plugins folder in .mozilla |
15:23.38 | Ringwraith` | am i not correct? |
15:23.38 | NullAcht15 | Firefox is heavily based on Mozilla code |
15:23.44 | user0 | oh well it can be put anywhere really. as long as konq is set up to point to the directory |
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15:27.20 | user0 | illogic-al if you know if konq cares about xpt files? |
15:28.25 | illogic-al | user0: just follow the same instructions and then point konq to the mozilla plugins directory. |
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15:28.57 | illogic-al | it's not like having that 2kb file on your HD is taking up that much space. |
15:30.12 | user0 | ok well im just somewhat curious about it technically |
15:31.19 | illogic-al | then delete it and find out :-) |
15:31.21 | user0 | dune courtesy of illogic-al. simple http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Helix |
15:32.02 | user0 | i will when i get back to my kde machine :) |
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15:32.18 | dune | r0: Thanks I just have to find out where the Helix plugin was dropped then I can point my plugin grabber to it |
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15:32.36 | kitsuneofdoom | hi |
15:33.00 | illogic-al | hullo |
15:33.06 | kitsuneofdoom | I use kmail, and I was just wondering if there are any console utilities that read kmail's format |
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15:34.05 | illogic-al | t know |
15:34.23 | kitsuneofdoom | yeah |
15:34.28 | kitsuneofdoom | kind of obscure question |
15:35.14 | illogic-al | no, not obscure. quite clear actually. I just don't know the answer :-) |
15:35.46 | NullAcht15 | kitsuneofdoom: kmail uses either mbox format or maildir. Both are pretty much standard |
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15:35.58 | NullAcht15 | I think you can read both using mutt |
15:36.13 | illogic-al | i would guess that it is possible. with some modification since KMail uses maildir format by default |
15:36.16 | NullAcht15 | which isn't really a commandline utility, though... |
15:36.32 | kitsuneofdoom | oh |
15:36.41 | NullAcht15 | illogic-al: why modifications? |
15:36.52 | jhutchins | kitsuneofdoom: KMail uses standard maildir format, but you can set it for mbox, also a standard. |
15:37.12 | kitsuneofdoom | ok...I bet mine is in maildir |
15:37.13 | illogic-al | NullAcht15: to point it to the mail directory for one. |
15:37.48 | jhutchins | Mutt would probably work, or pine. |
15:37.49 | illogic-al | since it isn't ~/Mail anymore. To make sure that mail is only being read, because KMail doesn't play nice with other mailers. |
15:38.08 | illogic-al | To make sure that mail is only being read secondly. |
15:38.22 | NullAcht15 | hm, oh yes, there is the issue with index files |
15:38.56 | kitsuneofdoom | kmail doesn't play nice with other mailers? |
15:39.05 | NullAcht15 | Most mailreader using mbox or maildir also use some sort of (usually hidden) index files to speed up reading |
15:39.15 | cbr | what's the right way to autostart an app on kde startup? |
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15:39.42 | NullAcht15 | These index files are not standard |
15:39.42 | illogic-al | cbr: Chuck it in $KDEHOME/Autostart |
15:39.47 | jhutchins | NullAcht15: I thought one of the formats included a standardized index. |
15:40.09 | doleyb | cbr: ~/.kde/Autostart |
15:40.09 | illogic-al | cbr: which is usually ~/.kde/Autostart |
15:40.18 | cbr | thats a folder right? |
15:40.18 | NullAcht15 | However, you can usually just delete the index files and most mail readers (including kmail) will recreate the index on next startup |
15:40.23 | cbr | and i can put bash scripts there? |
15:40.26 | illogic-al | cbr: indeed |
15:40.32 | NullAcht15 | If in doubt, do a backup first |
15:41.28 | kitsuneofdoom | wow...so just to use a text client to read and get mail and have it compatible with kmail, I have to do what now |
15:41.57 | NullAcht15 | deleting the index files, tough, may cause message you thought you had deleted a long time ago to reappear... |
15:42.52 | sredna | NullAcht15: Only with mbox afaik |
15:43.07 | NullAcht15 | (which is an interesting form of data-loss in itself...) |
15:43.09 | sredna | With maildir, I think kamil actually does delete the mails |
15:43.13 | kitsuneofdoom | I'm using maildir |
15:43.16 | kitsuneofdoom | I thin |
15:43.19 | kitsuneofdoom | k |
15:43.23 | kitsuneofdoom | if that's the default |
15:43.43 | NullAcht15 | iot has been the default for a couple of years now |
15:44.10 | kitsuneofdoom | well, I dunno, I *AM* using the one from Debian Stable... |
15:44.42 | dune | user0: It's a little confusing. It would be nice if KMPlayer would show up in the plugins Tab. Why is it restricted to netscape plugins only? |
15:44.42 | NullAcht15 | right click on a folder (in kmail), select properties |
15:45.05 | kitsuneofdoom | I have to start up kde...wait a sec.. |
15:45.54 | NullAcht15 | I just realized, that might not even actually tell you what format the folder is in... |
15:46.13 | kitsuneofdoom | <PROTECTED> |
15:46.15 | dune | user0: I scanned in the HelixPlayer plugins directory and nothing shows up in the plugin info tab. I know I can manually do it but it would be nice to scan. |
15:46.28 | kitsuneofdoom | sorry |
15:46.42 | kitsuneofdoom | irssi hung up for a second |
15:47.11 | user0 | dune ya that is kinda confusing to be there. the plugins page is just for mozilla based plugins, tho. kmplayer's embedded kpart component is in the file associations tabs like any other kpart |
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15:47.45 | user0 | dune what do you mean manually do it? |
15:47.54 | kitsuneofdoom | wow...that's a problem in itself...KDE won't start for me |
15:47.58 | kitsuneofdoom | oh, there it is |
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15:49.51 | ehamberg | Hi. I use Kxkb to switch between two keyboard layout. I want to apply som custon options from ~/.Xmodmap when loading one of them. Is this possible? |
15:50.00 | kitsuneofdoom | ok, so how do I tell what format it's in? |
15:50.05 | kitsuneofdoom | I have kmail open |
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15:51.08 | dune | user0: Yah I think they should allow for oither plugins other then just netscape in the plugin tab otherwise they seem hidden. I wonder why that is. Manually, I mean instead of copy and paste to just scan. |
15:51.58 | bmud2 | u guys know any print driver/filter/software that can reduce the margin size to be printed (thereby increases the contents size,helps alot in N-up printing) in documents (eg; PDFs) ? (fineprint does that on windows) |
15:53.21 | user0 | dune yeah. there's also another separate "plugin" configuration place for yet another type of plugin (like the google bar) as I recall too. at least they're grouped. ohh you mean copy the .so? |
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15:54.11 | dune | user0: yes, the so and the xpt file |
15:54.46 | dune | Plus I dont know where to really put those files as there are allot of plugin folders. |
15:55.10 | user0 | dune by default konqueror has a lot of well known places where .so's are found on various distributions i believe. aren't there many locations shown for u in the plugin config page? |
15:55.42 | dune | Oh well the only reason I have to do this is my KMPlayer doesnt want to read bbc and other files so the Helix or Real Player seems to so that without extra code stuff |
15:55.59 | dune | Like bbc news |
15:56.21 | dune | Yes allot so I can just choose any, ok. |
15:56.22 | superstoned | bmud2: can't you just set margins = 0 in the kprint dialogue? |
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15:57.31 | dune | Plus I did try to point my plugin scanner to those locations and it didnt seem to pickiup the Helix so and xpt files. Maybe it did anyway. |
15:57.41 | bmud2 | hmm, is there such a setting ? i'll check it out next time i boot into kde :) |
15:58.10 | bmud2 | i seriously doubt the behaviour is what i want |
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15:58.28 | bmud2 | cuz when u do say 4-up printing, it might reduce the margin of the 4-upped page instead of each page before 4-upping it |
15:58.34 | PhilRod | does kaffeine provide a player that will embed in konq? |
15:58.54 | pinotree | PhilRod: iirc kaffeine has a kpart, so yes i guess |
15:58.57 | superstoned | well, i don't think i can help you, then... |
15:58.58 | superstoned | sorry |
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15:59.18 | PhilRod | pinotree: any idea if that would be used on webpages that use <embed>? |
15:59.37 | pinotree | iirc <embed> uses the default kpart for that mimetype |
15:59.48 | pinotree | if you have kaffeine set as default, sure |
15:59.54 | user0 | dune yeah it depends on how helix is installed. globally as root it should put the files into one of those locations ready to be scanned. so now what happens when you try the bbc etc site? |
16:00.02 | PhilRod | excellent. Thanks PieD |
16:00.05 | PhilRod | erm, thanks pinotree |
16:00.09 | pinotree | :) |
16:00.12 | pinotree | np dude |
16:00.22 | dune | user0: I get only sound and no image |
16:00.35 | dune | user0: That is with KNPlayer |
16:00.42 | pinotree | PhilRod: ah, obviously, it's in the embedding options of a mimetype |
16:00.59 | user0 | PhilRod beware i think kaffeine konq embedded has a nasty crash bug that nobody seems to fix |
16:02.34 | user0 | dune ahh do you usually get image on realmedia or just the ones from those sites? |
16:02.48 | user0 | dune did you try them yet after the scans too? |
16:02.52 | PhilRod | user0: ok, I'll look out for it |
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16:03.42 | user0 | PhilRod :) |
16:04.24 | inc|freaky | :D |
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16:05.45 | dune | user0: Yes still not working and Helicx player doesnt come up. I think I didi get a real media image but I am not sure as I dont have real installed. |
16:06.42 | user0 | dune ok you probably need to go to file associations for the vnd.* whatever it is for realmedia files and add the embedded NSPlugin kpart |
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16:08.43 | user0 | dune also mplayer may just be missing real codecs. but helix does a better job handling them anyway imo |
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16:10.20 | Julianyus | hi |
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16:11.05 | dune | user0: For realvideo it says HelixPlayer but nothing for embedding |
16:11.11 | user0 | dune also you might need to duplicate the tab rather than just hit refresh if that's what u r doing. ive noticed that some file assocation updates require a completely new tab before their changes take affect (for some reason) |
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16:12.21 | user0 | dune ok click add in the embedded section and search around for something with NSPlugin i think it starts with it |
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16:14.08 | dune | user0: ok got that |
16:14.32 | dune | user0: new tab? |
16:14.51 | user0 | dune ya to be on the safe side. use CTRL+D |
16:15.09 | user0 | dune i mean CTRL+SHIFT+D |
16:15.43 | user0 | or if you're paranoid like me, restart konq altogether |
16:16.32 | dune | user0: I did that but still not working. Only KmPlayer still shows up with only mplayer and xine options. |
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16:19.02 | user0 | dune hmm ok u need to follow the add NSPlugin steps for all the mimetypes. which did you do it for? |
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16:21.42 | dune | user0: I just have the *.rv and *.RV extensions in General also what about the Left Click action panel? |
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16:22.59 | STORMKiNG | hi all |
16:23.49 | STORMKiNG | i have IPB 2.0.4 and I like change the skin from an xml-file... but not work.... |
16:24.10 | STORMKiNG | who can help me? |
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16:27.40 | user0 | dune do the ones for .ram and .rm too. what left click action panel? |
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16:29.43 | dune | user0, I'm using KDE3.5 so maybe it's new. It's under the embedded tab |
16:30.18 | Skrotto | hi.. i've got to similar computers. Both running Debian GNU/Linux unstable with kernel 2.6.12 from debian. One uses KDE 3.4.2 and the other uses KDE 3.5-alpha1 - on both machines artsd crashes.. what gives with that? :P |
16:30.27 | Skrotto | Crashes as in segmentation fault on startup |
16:30.54 | user0 | dune oh wow sounds interesting. i have only done 3.4.x i hope it's a good option. i have no idea :) |
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16:32.51 | markey | guys |
16:33.00 | markey | amarok 1.3.3 tarball available |
16:33.04 | markey | we need build testers |
16:33.05 | markey | http://www2.truman.edu/~iam504/amarok-1.3.3.tar.bz2 |
16:33.10 | markey | if you wish |
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16:34.46 | chandoo | i am gettting this error when i login ERROR "INIT: Id "h1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes continiously" |
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16:42.25 | doleyb | jhutchins: consistent window borders! |
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16:46.02 | Katagia | Hi I have a question about transparency in kde 3.4. Fading in and out of windowses is very slow. Is there any way to make this faster? |
16:46.03 | user0 | file-open dialog that won't make the eyes bleed! |
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16:50.23 | s3[mn]rain | Can someone help me with a small problem....I am running kde, and in my kmenu, right below "Utilities" and right above "Find Files/Folders", I have an entry for "Kaffeine" that I do not want there, when I try to use the menu editor and delete the item, it is still there when I view the menu...how do I get rid of it? |
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16:53.49 | user0 | looks like more .desktop bugs |
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17:00.42 | s3[mn]rain | When I try and run kmenuedit from terminal I get an error "ERROR: Communication problem with kmenuedit, it probably crashed. |
17:00.43 | s3[mn]rain | " |
17:00.47 | tech | kde panel crashed, and i killed kicker.. how do i start it again? running kicker doesnt seem to work |
17:02.11 | oGALAXYo | tech: dcop kicker restart restart |
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17:03.26 | tech | konsole locked up too.. i started the run command box and typed in konsole and pushed ok.. run comand locked up too |
17:03.31 | tech | something really weird is happening h ere |
17:03.52 | chetanr | hi.. when i try to start ktalkd, it says Socket operation on non-socket and quits |
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17:04.44 | chetanr | should i start it as root or as a normal user? |
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17:13.44 | eXistenZ | What is the best spamfiltering system? spamassassin? |
17:15.12 | sredna | Spamassassin is fine on the mail server, but very slow locally. I use bogofilter locally |
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17:18.41 | eXistenZ | sredna, what about the ordb, did you try it |
17:20.15 | s3[mn]rain | Ok, so I have discovered that my kmenuedit will not delete anything...arg why is that |
17:21.38 | sredna | eXistenZ: Nope |
17:22.14 | sredna | eXistenZ: The only spam that isn't trashed automatically here is the failure notices caused by microsofts love fo insanely insecure systems :o |
17:22.43 | dune | user0: Ug, it just insists on using KMPlayer and I dont want to uninstall it because I need it to play Win files. I have all real files ram, rm, etc. pointing to Helix but still KMPlayer plays. Nowhere do I assosiate Real file to KMplayer. I'll try rebooting and then just ask on the forums thanks. |
17:22.52 | eXistenZ | sredna, what spamfiltering method do you use yourself? |
17:23.24 | sredna | eXistenZ: Sa on the server, bogofilter here |
17:23.51 | eXistenZ | sredna, what server? |
17:24.04 | sredna | eXistenZ: My isp |
17:24.27 | sredna | eXistenZ: I own a domain with a service where thry provide sa on the mail server |
17:24.56 | eXistenZ | sredna, do you think it's better than spamassassin? |
17:25.46 | eXistenZ | sredna, how can I let my Konqueror open the homepage once it opens? I didn't find a place in the configuration file where it prompts konqueror to open the home page automatically |
17:32.11 | sredna | eXistenZ: Which home page? |
17:32.43 | sredna | And no, I think sa is the best spam filter, but it is unnice to run on a workstation |
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17:33.55 | eXistenZ | sredna, I got google.com as homepage, now when I open konqueror the web browser, it opens a blank page =/ and I need to press the homepage button to get to my homepage |
17:35.26 | titan2005 | I've got a problem with the Terminal_Interface class, is there a developper that could help me, please ? |
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17:37.33 | sredna | eXistenZ: Go to Settings->Save provile 'Web Browsing' and check 'save with URL' and then save the profile |
17:37.44 | sredna | titan2005: Try #kde-devel |
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17:37.56 | sredna | titan2005: And generally, ask your question ;) |
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17:38.22 | titan2005 | thanks sredna :) |
17:38.28 | eXistenZ | sredna, I wonder why Konqueror is slower than firefox |
17:38.35 | eXistenZ | sredna, are there any special tweaks? |
17:38.37 | sredna | eXistenZ: It isn't |
17:38.48 | sredna | Ime, it's faster |
17:38.53 | oGALAXYo | konqueror is faster |
17:39.00 | eXistenZ | well, it loads pages slower |
17:39.06 | sredna | No |
17:39.06 | eXistenZ | but it runs faster |
17:39.28 | oGALAXYo | konqeror is not just a web browser. |
17:39.39 | oGALAXYo | people make the mistake to compare it with firefox |
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17:49.42 | eXistenZ | Where can I set the charset for Konqueror? |
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17:57.02 | FrEeKiLL | respect |
17:57.02 | FrEeKiLL | :D |
17:57.03 | FrEeKiLL | lol |
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17:57.46 | sredna | eXistenZ: View->set encoding |
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18:07.54 | LinuxNIT-laptop | does anyone here know if you can make the background on kroller transparent? |
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18:23.52 | grepper | does k3b's copy cd feature not work with only 1 drive even if you select "create image only" ? |
18:24.20 | grepper | "start" button on burn dialogue still greyed out |
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18:38.51 | _micro | Hi |
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18:49.50 | Julianyus | hi |
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19:05.56 | asdf | i've got an app launched from the taskbar, i'm wondering how i can set an icon for its widow? |
19:06.14 | asdf | when i minimize it, it uses the default "X" icon and it's fugly. |
19:06.40 | Shadowcat | is it an kde app? |
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19:07.50 | asdf | Shadowcat: it's a "non-KDE" launched app, simply aterm -e mutt |
19:08.03 | asdf | with an envelope icon |
19:08.16 | asdf | but when i minimize the app it doesn't retain that icon in the taskbar |
19:08.32 | asdf | i wasn't sure if there's a way i can assign an icon to that window? |
19:09.00 | maderd | hi all, does anybody know why I don't get certain characters on my german keyboard, namely < > and |... |
19:09.02 | maderd | with an English layout it works, and also while being on a virtual console... |
19:09.28 | maderd | so it looks like some problem with the keyboard switch tool |
19:09.46 | maderd | I'm using SuSE 9.3 on KDE 3.4.2.b |
19:11.40 | jago | can any one tell me how to make my other oartitions show up in the storage media folder |
19:12.48 | jago | i keep getting this mesage when i try to use my dvd rom "The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist." |
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19:15.03 | maderd | ok, got answer on an other channel. |
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19:18.09 | alekz | how cna i remove the main panel ? |
19:18.11 | alekz | *can |
19:18.27 | cbr | killall -9 kicker? :p |
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19:21.00 | _knoppix_ | hi |
19:21.26 | _knoppix_ | kann man knoppix auch auf festplatte spielen |
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19:30.30 | jago | can any one help me.... i keep getting this mesage when i try to use my dvd rom "The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist." |
19:30.35 | jago | please |
19:31.13 | maderd | looks like it doesnt exist |
19:31.27 | maderd | did you insert a disc? |
19:31.43 | jago | yes |
19:31.51 | maderd | do you use any automounting? |
19:31.58 | jago | yes |
19:32.04 | maderd | what distro? |
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19:32.22 | jago | 5.10 |
19:32.29 | maderd | ??? |
19:32.38 | maderd | what distro should that be? |
19:32.49 | jago | 3.4.3 |
19:33.14 | jago | kubuntu 5.10, kde 3.4.3 |
19:33.25 | maderd | thats kde... and i think tha recent one is 3.4.2 |
19:33.38 | maderd | 3.4.3 is not yet stable?! |
19:33.43 | maderd | or available |
19:33.47 | maderd | anyway |
19:33.57 | maderd | can you eject it again |
19:34.10 | maderd | the disc I mean |
19:34.19 | jago | yes |
19:34.32 | jago | sorry not any more??? |
19:35.09 | maderd | well, sorry but that shouldnt happen |
19:35.26 | maderd | im just narrowing down the cause |
19:35.27 | jago | i didn't think so |
19:35.40 | maderd | did it work before? |
19:35.41 | PhilRod | probably a problem with your /etc/fstab |
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19:36.11 | maderd | if hes using automount there should be no fstab entry for removables? |
19:36.57 | maderd | oh. sorry |
19:36.57 | maderd | was wrong |
19:38.27 | PhilRod | I don't think media:/ is designed to work with automounters. Or maybe it is. I'm going to shut up now :-) |
19:38.31 | PhilRod | brb |
19:38.39 | maderd | it is |
19:38.55 | maderd | works beautifully on my suse box |
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19:39.02 | maderd | never had any trouble |
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19:39.20 | jago | it used to be able to see all partitions and storage media but after reinstalling it can only see floppy |
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19:39.39 | Thorrn4 | hello! I was wondering: how can u set k3b to burn a bootable CD? where is the setting? |
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19:40.13 | eXistenZ | sredna, still there? |
19:40.17 | maderd | well then somethings defintely wrong |
19:40.50 | sredna | eXistenZ: Sure |
19:41.14 | maderd | looks like some very buggy etc/fstab |
19:41.46 | jago | it just says that it is not in the media:/ folder, i thought if i could manually add it ti would work, but i can't figure out how |
19:42.52 | sredna | media:/ reads fstab |
19:43.00 | jago | oh |
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19:48.30 | elirips | hello people. my knode seems to hide all the "old" post.. but i cannot find anything in the settings to disable this. anyone an idea? |
19:49.42 | mabu | Has anyone working Akregator? |
19:49.58 | Sho_ | Yup |
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19:50.56 | mabu | Mine has just stopped working two days ago |
19:51.09 | mabu | I update all feeds and there is nothing new |
19:51.22 | mabu | But If a go to a feed page there is a lot of news |
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19:55.11 | pinotree | hello =) |
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19:58.56 | Thorrn4 | hello! I was wondering: how can u set k3b to burn a bootable CD? where is the setting? |
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19:59.52 | edulix | Thorrn4: you just burn the iso ? |
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20:00.33 | Thorrn4 | ok |
20:00.33 | edulix | that's usually the case if for example you want to burn your knoppix iso or something |
20:00.37 | Chambers` | hi guys, how do i empty the trash can in kmail? I right click on it and nothing comes up that says empty |
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20:03.27 | sredna | Chambers`: File->Empty all trash folders |
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20:05.30 | vbhanu | Hi, i want to make a small app which does this: it is a window with two buttons, next and cancel the typical installer types |
20:05.52 | Chambers` | well, here's what's going on. I imported some folders from outlook express, so it created the OE-Name of Folder folder. I moved the messages to my inbox/trash folders. And then moved the OE-NameofFolder to the Trash can, but it's still there, I can't get rid of that folder? |
20:06.00 | vbhanu | i take some input and process it and then upon pressing next take more input |
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20:06.45 | vbhanu | how should i start think kdevelop would be a good tool to do this job please help me get started coz this wud be the first thing that i do on kdevelop |
20:07.38 | sredna | vbhanu: A dialog application, I bet there is an appropriate template in kdevelop. But try asking in #kdevelop for support with that |
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20:08.46 | eXistenZ | sredna, I got all the settings of my kdm well-configured, including a background through the control center, but still I don't have a background when kdm launches. |
20:09.15 | sredna | eXistenZ: I have no idea why, it works fine here |
20:09.23 | sredna | And for everyone else I'd guess |
20:09.44 | eXistenZ | sredna, can I give you remote access? |
20:10.08 | sredna | eXistenZ: No |
20:10.18 | eXistenZ | :'( |
20:10.24 | sredna | I can't take time for that right now, sorry |
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20:16.05 | nicholas | Does anyone here know of a way to set up konsole so that it won't interpret Alt-<key> combinations? |
20:17.30 | Dhraakellian | settings > configure shortcuts? |
20:17.59 | eXistenZ | sredna, can I paste you the kdm.log? |
20:18.35 | nicholas | Well here is my problem. I want to use this program a+ which uses alt key combinations in a special way, but when I enter something like Alt-s I get ^[s |
20:18.54 | Dhraakellian | ah |
20:18.56 | Dhraakellian | no idea |
20:19.04 | Dhraakellian | someone else might know, but I don't |
20:19.06 | nicholas | In xterm I get the correct symbol which is ó |
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20:19.44 | eXistenZ | sredna, here it is: http://pastebin.com/388450 . |
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20:50.52 | _poison | hi ^^ |
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20:55.56 | AssociateX | hello peoole |
20:55.58 | AssociateX | people |
20:56.24 | AssociateX | what is the tool that does menu updates? |
20:56.43 | AssociateX | nm found it |
20:56.54 | AssociateX | Kappfinder |
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21:32.49 | pinheiro | hi guys |
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21:33.29 | pinheiro | my screensavers just disapered |
21:33.43 | Venson | what distro? |
21:33.47 | pinheiro | any ideas how to fix it? |
21:33.52 | Venson | i'm guessing fedora? |
21:33.55 | pinheiro | mandriva |
21:34.04 | Venson | i see. try asking in #mandriva yet? |
21:34.10 | annma | disapeared. what do you mean? |
21:34.19 | Venson | they might've packaged it differently |
21:34.23 | annma | disappeared from your herd disk? |
21:34.27 | annma | hard |
21:34.31 | pinheiro | they dont apear on the menu |
21:34.39 | Venson | they're prolly not installed, for all i know |
21:34.57 | pinheiro | they usualy are in................? |
21:35.10 | Venson | i dont know...that's why i said ask in #mandriva :) |
21:35.39 | annma | pinheiro: why do you say: just disapeared |
21:35.40 | pinheiro | yea they dont like me mutch there, ;) |
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21:35.56 | annma | what happened, you had them before? |
21:36.01 | pinheiro | couse i used to have them, |
21:36.11 | pinheiro | im gessing this is a menu thing |
21:36.16 | annma | why don't they like you in #mandriva? you behaved badly? |
21:36.37 | pinheiro | yes i use strange rpm sources aka not oficial ones |
21:37.10 | pinheiro | but i need the latest kde ;) |
21:37.23 | annma | what strange rpms? |
21:37.32 | annma | name them please? |
21:37.37 | Venson | serves you right lol |
21:37.47 | pinheiro | SOS and thac |
21:37.49 | annma | would that be Ze rpms? |
21:37.51 | annma | lol |
21:37.58 | annma | \you are on your own for those |
21:38.00 | pinheiro | :) |
21:38.11 | pinheiro | heheheh |
21:38.15 | annma | ask the guys, we already are fed up with these |
21:38.29 | annma | if you need latest, then compile yourself |
21:38.35 | annma | like I do |
21:38.44 | pinheiro | ?????????? |
21:38.46 | annma | you would lose less time in the end |
21:38.57 | annma | get the sources fropm svn and build KDE yourself |
21:39.32 | pinheiro | annma: not to be a pain but compiling kde stuf in mandriva is worts than dificult |
21:39.49 | annma | lol |
21:39.50 | Venson | i wish i could compile.....my laptop's constanly around 80 C... |
21:39.55 | Venson | *constantly |
21:40.11 | annma | pinheiro: why? actually I compile 2 KDE versions... on mandriva!!! |
21:40.30 | annma | it's even easier than with other diostros |
21:40.48 | annma | you miss a lib? urpmf tells you waht package to install |
21:40.49 | pinheiro | im no coder but my expiriences on the make thing in mandriva or mandrake is bad |
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21:41.03 | annma | then change distro |
21:41.14 | annma | you don;t make sense by using stupid rpms |
21:41.20 | pinotree | APT r0ks |
21:41.24 | pinheiro | yea im changing ti suse |
21:41.30 | pinotree | hey pinheiro =) |
21:41.37 | annma | the thac rpms cannot work, we had to help here the guys to make them |
21:41.41 | pinheiro | hey fellow tree |
21:41.53 | pinotree | pinheiro: you can use apt on suse =) |
21:41.57 | annma | pinotree: PLEASE tell your friend not to use Ze rpms!!!! |
21:42.01 | Venson | from what i've seen ubuntu and suse are providing latest kde packages real fast.... |
21:42.16 | annma | pinotree: pinheiro here uses Ze rpms!!!! |
21:42.17 | Venson | even beta ones.....too bad for me on slackware |
21:42.25 | pinotree | annma: sure, neither me would use those if i were using mandriva |
21:42.36 | annma | he uses them! |
21:42.41 | pinotree | oO |
21:42.42 | pinheiro | now im using SOS |
21:42.47 | annma | and then he asks here for help!!! |
21:42.55 | pinotree | pinheiro: Zé's rpms are TheEvil(tm) |
21:43.03 | pinotree | annma: ^^^ |
21:43.09 | annma | yeah |
21:43.18 | pinheiro | how come? |
21:43.19 | annma | it's like I built those myself |
21:43.38 | pinotree | pinheiro: he apply "random" patches in the kde sources |
21:43.39 | annma | that Ze always come here to complain about things, he does not know anything about RPMS |
21:44.03 | annma | he cannot make rpms that work, he does not know a thing about compilation |
21:44.18 | pinheiro | well apart from the menu bug i must say they are prety stable |
21:44.27 | annma | pinheiro: look at the mailing lists the number of mails he sent in September and look at the questions |
21:44.36 | annma | you'll see by yourself |
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21:44.58 | pinheiro | im no coder just uzer so i have just the uzer prespectiv |
21:45.37 | annma | yes but you ask for help so we tell you |
21:45.38 | pinheiro | to tell you the truth i had more bugs and random craches with the oficial mandriva ones |
21:45.49 | annma | if you are user, you wait like all users that 3.5 is out |
21:46.03 | pinheiro | i just asked for kde help |
21:46.10 | annma | if you are advanced user and you want 3.5, you build it |
21:46.10 | Venson | heh |
21:46.18 | annma | we can help you to build KDE |
21:46.26 | annma | I wrote a tutorial on that |
21:46.50 | annma | you can have help on kde but not on Ze rpms |
21:47.06 | pinheiro | annma: im an uzer but also an artist working actvely on kde, im full with work for kde and have absolutly no time to leran nothing |
21:47.23 | annma | yes, aren't we all? |
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21:47.39 | annma | use a script to build kde if you need 3.5 |
21:47.56 | Venson | annma: i read kde 3.5 needs scons to build? or would that be 4.0? |
21:48.14 | annma | Venson: lol, don't mix it all!!! kde 3.5 needs automake |
21:48.18 | Venson | ah ok |
21:48.28 | annma | 4.0 will need scons (it's not even done yet) |
21:48.31 | Venson | gotcha |
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21:48.38 | pinheiro | that the reoson im chaging to suse |
21:49.01 | annma | pinheiro: ok but don;t say it's difficult to build kde on mandriva as it is not |
21:49.07 | pinheiro | and all i asked is the defoult location of the wallpapers |
21:49.18 | Venson | you were asking about screensavers |
21:49.22 | annma | I suceeded first time I tried and I knew nothig of linux and was no developer |
21:49.29 | Venson | lol |
21:49.36 | annma | where is your KDEDIR pinheiro ? |
21:49.46 | pinheiro | usr but you know that |
21:49.49 | annma | Venson: yeah, more newbie than me you cannot find |
21:50.05 | Venson | annma: i can...when i look in the mirror |
21:50.13 | annma | Venson: no, surely not |
21:50.32 | Venson | annma: surely yes :P ....i messed up the first time i tried to build kde.....had to get instructions from Jes |
21:50.51 | Venson | haven't attempted since then |
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21:50.55 | annma | Venson: I was more newbie than you, knoew nothing about linux or unix or PCs |
21:51.05 | Venson | :) |
21:51.31 | annma | pinheiro: /usr/share/wallpapers |
21:51.38 | annma | what do you have here? |
21:51.56 | annma | hmm, screenssavers or wallpapers? |
21:52.06 | annma | wallpapers, right |
21:52.11 | pinheiro | walpapers |
21:52.25 | annma | pinheiro: look in /usr/share/wallpapers and paste the first line of ls |
21:52.30 | cbr | is there any ETA on the first usable betas/alphas of kde4? |
21:52.40 | annma | cbr: not usable |
21:52.55 | cbr | what do you mean? |
21:52.56 | annma | alphas and betas are like a year ahead |
21:53.03 | cbr | oh :p |
21:53.34 | cbr | but can one use qt3 apps with kde4? |
21:53.40 | annma | no |
21:53.42 | pinheiro | annma: lien-night.jpg gear-flowers.svgz.desktop mystical_rightturn.jpg |
21:53.48 | pinheiro | the walpapers |
21:53.52 | pinheiro | has i said |
21:53.52 | annma | there is no kde4 yet per see anyway |
21:53.53 | cbr | annma: but qt4 apps with kde3? |
21:54.03 | annma | cbr: use? |
21:54.09 | cbr | well yes |
21:54.12 | annma | cbr: define use |
21:54.15 | cbr | how will the transition go? |
21:54.21 | cbr | well start them, work with them |
21:54.22 | annma | if you have qt4 you can "use" a qt4 app |
21:54.47 | cbr | but you cant use qt3 apps when you have kde4? |
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21:55.01 | annma | pinheiro: do you have a lot of them? |
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21:55.10 | pinheiro | yea |
21:55.10 | annma | cbr: what is kde4? |
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21:55.12 | pinheiro | some |
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21:55.27 | pinheiro | about 50 |
21:55.34 | annma | cbr: qt3 apps need qt3 |
21:55.59 | annma | so if you have "kde4" whatever that is and also qt3 you can "use" qt3 apps |
21:56.02 | cbr | annma: for example amarok would be done in qt4 lets say in a month.. could i use it under kde3.5? |
21:56.06 | annma | lol |
21:56.16 | annma | cbr: you don;t know what you are talking about |
21:56.27 | cbr | no i don't :p |
21:56.27 | annma | amarok will use qt4 and kde4 |
21:56.47 | annma | but there is no real kde4 right now to "use" |
21:56.56 | annma | we don;t know when there will be one |
21:57.18 | annma | kde4 apps require kde4 and will not run under kde3.5 |
21:57.24 | cbr | but will there be a painful period of transition? like when kde4 is ready but the apps arent or smth? |
21:57.33 | annma | not at all |
21:57.43 | annma | painful for devels, surely |
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21:57.50 | annma | for users, surely not |
21:58.00 | annma | pinheiro: so what is your problem? |
21:58.15 | annma | when you choose a wallpaper, what happens? |
21:58.18 | pinheiro | screensavers |
21:58.32 | cbr | annma: so if i have a qt3 and kde3 based amarok, and i upgrade to kde4, i can still use it.. or do i have to wait for a version of it that's based on qt4 and kde4? |
21:58.34 | pinheiro | sory if i said wllpapers |
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21:58.53 | annma | cbr: as a user you keep your kde3 version and that's it |
21:59.14 | cbr | so it's backwards compatible? |
21:59.18 | annma | you do NOT upgrade to kde4 before your distro has packages |
21:59.28 | annma | you use kde3 with kde3 apps |
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21:59.57 | annma | you will not have a kde4 amarok for kde3 |
22:00.15 | annma | in 1 year you will have kde4 and all the apps for it |
22:00.33 | cbr | but the apps that are not in the big monolithic build? |
22:00.38 | cbr | will they come a bit later? |
22:00.42 | cbr | than kdelibs |
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22:00.52 | annma | what big moolithic build? |
22:01.04 | cbr | well kde |
22:01.24 | pinheiro | cbr is talking about all the non kde aps but that work nicely with qt and kde |
22:01.28 | annma | if you are not a developer you don;t have to bother about kde4 |
22:01.59 | annma | kde4 is something that does not exist yet as such, there is only some porting done |
22:02.42 | magyar | running amd64 port while using xmms on KDE, having problems with loading xmms-kde, it seems to be compiled against kdelibs4, which is not instalable in sid. |
22:02.50 | magyar | can someone help a brother? |
22:03.01 | annma | kdelibs4???? |
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22:03.11 | cbr | magyar: it's kdelibs4c2 |
22:03.12 | annma | ah, the debian notation |
22:03.14 | annma | !!!!!!!!!!! |
22:03.17 | magyar | annma, thats what i mean? |
22:03.21 | annma | oh man |
22:03.23 | cbr | #debian-kde |
22:03.26 | cbr | beat those guys |
22:03.35 | magyar | cbr, tried that, but nada |
22:03.36 | cbr | or file a bug |
22:03.44 | annma | against debian |
22:03.52 | magyar | is there a way to recompile xmms-kde for my platform? |
22:03.55 | cbr | that it needs to be built with the gcc4 based kdelibs |
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22:04.49 | _Gianluca | ciao |
22:05.07 | _Gianluca | c'è qualcuno italaiano? |
22:05.15 | cbr | magyar: xmms-kde deps are fine for me.. |
22:05.22 | annma | we speak English here, _Gianluca |
22:05.27 | _Gianluca | ok |
22:05.32 | _Gianluca | annma |
22:05.41 | _Gianluca | can someone help me |
22:05.48 | magyar | cbr, i blanked on that last comment |
22:05.52 | cbr | xmms-kde (3.1-2) unstable; urgency=low |
22:05.53 | cbr | <PROTECTED> |
22:06.06 | _Gianluca | i need a divx player for suse 9.3 |
22:06.24 | cbr | magyar: it should work |
22:06.54 | cbr | try to update the apt-get cache |
22:07.03 | _Gianluca | i am a new user of linux |
22:07.25 | _Gianluca | and i don't understand very well how it works |
22:07.29 | cbr | _Gianluca: try mplayer |
22:07.36 | magyar | cbr, i am on sid "AMD64" right now and it complains about "kdelibs4" i have "kdelibs4c2" |
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22:07.49 | cbr | magyar: oh.. the amd64 port |
22:08.07 | cbr | 3.1-1: amd64 m68k |
22:08.18 | _Gianluca | i tried but i don't succed to let it works |
22:08.28 | cbr | magyar: file a bugreport against it on bugs.debian.org that the amd64 version needs rebuilding too |
22:08.46 | magyar | cbr, roger |
22:08.49 | pinheiro | annma: /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers |
22:08.51 | _Gianluca | when i tried to configure it it says me i don't have libreries |
22:09.01 | pinheiro | and they are all there |
22:09.20 | _Gianluca | and i tried install pango |
22:09.20 | cbr | _Gianluca: i believe suse has packages for it |
22:09.27 | annma | pinheiro: so what happens exactly? |
22:09.39 | _Gianluca | and says me that is old |
22:09.45 | _Gianluca | like version 1.8 |
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22:10.01 | _Gianluca | and the version 1.10 i whant to install |
22:10.01 | annma | pinheiro: where do you set your screensaver? |
22:10.13 | pinotree | _Gianluca: try asking in #linux-it , that's more general and italian-speaking channel |
22:10.18 | _Gianluca | it's don't recognised by gtk |
22:10.31 | pinheiro | in the menu wen rightkcliking the mose on the desktop |
22:10.40 | pinheiro | mose :) mouse |
22:11.00 | _Gianluca | okz tnks |
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22:11.37 | annma | pinheiro: Configure Desktop -> Screensavers |
22:11.56 | pinotree | wow, i told him to go in anpther channel, mode handy for him, and he disconnected :-/ |
22:12.10 | pinheiro | yea |
22:12.22 | annma | pinheiro: you don;t have the screensavers there? |
22:12.45 | pinheiro | no annma, im gessing its ponting to some wrong plade |
22:12.50 | pinheiro | place |
22:13.13 | pinheiro | is there some wer i can configure that? |
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22:14.28 | annma | pinheiro: in konsole |
22:14.34 | annma | echo $KDEDIRS |
22:14.38 | annma | paste the result |
22:14.50 | pinheiro | /usr |
22:14.54 | pinheiro | just that |
22:15.57 | pinheiro | this bug is not somthing new to me and i have it from time to time from the since 8.2 days |
22:16.16 | annma | do you have only 1 kde version? |
22:16.27 | pinheiro | the menu thing never worked very well in my mandrivas/mandrake |
22:16.30 | pinheiro | yes |
22:16.46 | annma | this is not menu, this is configuration |
22:17.17 | annma | so you have absolutely othing in there and sometimes you have something? |
22:17.24 | annma | what about a new user? |
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22:18.29 | pinheiro | no |
22:18.46 | pinheiro | but a thiferen uzer will probly have this right |
22:18.52 | pinheiro | diferent |
22:19.25 | pinheiro | letme chek if root has this working |
22:19.33 | annma | not root |
22:19.46 | annma | a different NOT root user |
22:19.51 | pinheiro | ok |
22:21.08 | cuartz | hi, im new using linux and i wanna know if i can run windows aplications and if thats posible how can i do that |
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22:21.46 | annma | cuartz: ask in your distro channel. It is possible using wine but ask in #distro_name |
22:22.04 | annma | cuartz: here we only deal with KDE questions |
22:22.18 | cuartz | ok |
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22:25.22 | pinheiro | mumm not working also |
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22:26.19 | annma | pinheiro: so your installation is messed probably which is not a surprise |
22:26.36 | annma | but if the rest works OK maybe you can live without screensavers |
22:26.43 | pinheiro | yea i can |
22:26.59 | pinheiro | i just wnated to know how to fix this litle bug |
22:27.24 | pinheiro | thanks any way |
22:28.43 | annma | this is obviously a rpm bug |
22:29.06 | pinheiro | im not sure couse it worked for so long |
22:30.40 | annma | if it was a setting it would work for a new user |
22:30.51 | annma | so it's not a setting in your user |
22:31.07 | annma | reinstall maybe |
22:31.14 | annma | kderatwork |
22:31.18 | pinheiro | doing just that :) |
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22:38.17 | abydos | will someone please add an import function to kopete? |
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22:39.24 | madpenguin8 | will someone please add don't ask again check boxes for the dialogs when you login that ask if you want to add X contacts to your list |
22:40.04 | abydos | will someone add please consider the massive number of accounts i have configured in gaim that I want in kopete before they start making stupid elitist replies |
22:40.39 | madpenguin8 | abydos: are you aiming that at me? |
22:40.57 | abydos | literal "import". Hell, even NS Communicator could import settings from Outlook. |
22:41.07 | abydos | madpenguin8: I'd say so, yes. |
22:41.16 | abydos | oh wait. |
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22:41.26 | chavo | abydos, you should be able to get a refund still. |
22:41.28 | madpenguin8 | well, if you knew better you'd know I'm complaining along with you |
22:41.40 | abydos | madpenguin8: yeah, sorry. Long day at work. |
22:41.44 | madpenguin8 | ;p |
22:42.00 | abydos | and I just switched to kde from gnome, and I'm having a helluva time with my multimedia keys |
22:42.18 | madpenguin8 | abydos: khotkeys |
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22:42.38 | chavo | kmindcontrol for multimedia keys |
22:43.09 | abydos | chavo: try again, that's not in ubuntu's repos |
22:43.34 | chavo | abydos, only for people that don't complain about free stuff. |
22:43.47 | abydos | universe is in my sources.list. |
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22:43.54 | abydos | so is multiverse. |
22:44.11 | chavo | it's in ultramegaverse, but you need to be on the A list. |
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22:44.32 | jcapote | how can I enable file previews for things like jpgs and stuff |
22:44.46 | jcapote | kde 3.4 on suse 10 btw |
22:44.54 | madpenguin8 | jcapote: konq, view > previews |
22:45.28 | chavo | jcapote, most are on by default. Not sure about Suse though |
22:45.29 | jcapote | ok that works inside konq, what about files on the desktop |
22:45.33 | jcapote | they are |
22:45.48 | jcapote | those only preview if I pass the mouse over them |
22:45.48 | chavo | doesn't work on desktop afaik |
22:45.53 | madpenguin8 | jcapote: right click, config desktop iirc |
22:45.58 | madpenguin8 | it does |
22:46.36 | jcapote | got it thanks! |
22:46.40 | chavo | ah ok, there is a setting for it. I never use the desktop for stuff anyway |
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22:50.47 | simmerz | im getting an error in 3.4.2 saying the KDE mediamanager is not running. trying to use hal/dbus/pmount |
22:51.13 | chavo | simmerz, try running kded from run dialog |
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22:51.37 | simmerz | chavo: already running. |
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22:51.57 | chavo | alright |
22:52.00 | somekool_ | anyone got an iSight working with kopete ? |
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22:52.19 | simmerz | its ok. its working now |
22:54.46 | simmerz | with pmount i shouldn't need to have entries in /etc/fstab but the media:/ kioslave is complaining that there is no entry for sde1 |
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23:02.17 | unition | kde = the good stuff ? |
23:03.05 | madpenguin8 | indeed |
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23:10.42 | madpenguin8 | unition: why do you ask? |
23:20.26 | eXistenZ | what is the shortcut for the console |
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23:45.22 | Chambers` | hi guys, is there any way I can start kio_ipodslave to see if it sees my iPod? |
23:45.43 | Chambers` | i can't get my distro to recognize the iPod |
23:47.25 | madpenguin8 | Chambers`: have you mounted your ipod? |
23:47.47 | Chambers` | no i have not |
23:48.06 | Chambers` | i looked for /dev/sda but it's not there |
23:48.11 | madpenguin8 | try mounting it at /mnt/ipod |
23:48.30 | madpenguin8 | your dmesg doesn't show it? |
23:48.52 | Chambers` | not sure, how can i check? |
23:49.08 | madpenguin8 | type dmesg at the prompt after you plug it in |
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23:50.27 | Chambers` | nope, nothing |
23:50.32 | Chambers` | see's my pocketpc |
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23:50.55 | madpenguin8 | hmm, what distro? |
23:50.56 | Chambers` | and the ipod says charging and not "do not disconnect" |
23:51.16 | chrisag | never will Chambers` |
23:51.30 | chrisag | thats dictated by an ipod driver... |
23:51.36 | madpenguin8 | no! |
23:51.40 | Chambers` | really? I thought when connected it says "do not disconnect" |
23:51.53 | chrisag | well mine never has :\ |
23:51.56 | madpenguin8 | if you eject it, it will say OK to disconnect |
23:51.57 | chrisag | lol |
23:52.33 | Chambers` | so it should say do not disconnect, ok, going to take it out and them plug it back in |
23:53.10 | madpenguin8 | chrisag: http://madpenguin8.pwsp.net/ipod_rok.png |
23:53.36 | madpenguin8 | and eject umounts it before eject btw |
23:53.56 | Chambers` | what the heck, i unplugged my pocket pc and dmesg still says PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
23:54.09 | chrisag | ah my ipod shuffle is found automatically and has been ok without manual intervention |
23:54.28 | *** join/#kde markit (n=konversa@host119-245.pool8172.interbusiness.it) |
23:54.36 | markit | hi :) anyone that uses kiosk? |
23:55.40 | Chambers` | i am going to reboot again |