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| 00:05.27 | sagarp | where does kde store info about fonts? like what is the difference between the root fonts folder, and the user's fonts:/system folder?? |
| 00:06.40 | Agiofws | s anyone fit to help me with tv-time? |
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| 00:09.50 | illogic-al | Agiofws: in #kde? unlikely. |
| 00:10.08 | Agiofws | where then? |
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| 00:14.13 | moret | hi! |
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| 00:14.34 | moret | kopete has a bug! the nicks are not updated! :( |
| 00:14.39 | crispynix-v6 | Agiofws: #tvtime exists |
| 00:15.31 | illogic-al | moret ol' pal. kopete has a LOT of bugs. :-) |
| 00:15.37 | moret | xD |
| 00:16.38 | moret | illogic-al: any patch? |
| 00:19.53 | sagarp | does anyone know where kde stores font info?? |
| 00:20.04 | illogic-al | moret: lol. nope. |
| 00:20.17 | benJIman | moret: right click nick , click properties, and make sure that "display name source" "from contact" is selected |
| 00:20.20 | illogic-al | it'll be better the next version. |
| 00:20.25 | illogic-al | i hope. |
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| 00:29.00 | DrZoot | hussam: i think that might just be kaffiene, mine crashes every time i close it |
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| 00:32.31 | sagarp | how come when i look at fonts:/ as root, and fonts:/ as user, it's differnet?? |
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| 00:49.06 | moret | benJIman: oh, thanks! it works :P but, any option in order to apply to all contact? |
| 00:49.37 | benJIman | moret: i'm afraid not |
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| 00:49.51 | moret | xD |
| 00:49.54 | moret | oks, thanks... |
| 00:49.57 | moret | one to one... |
| 00:50.09 | benJIman | I tend to use custom names for people anyway |
| 00:50.17 | benJIman | msn people use such rediculously long nicks |
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| 00:50.21 | moret | aps |
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| 00:54.19 | moret | good night! i'm going to bed |
| 00:54.20 | moret | bye |
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| 00:56.53 | kicker | is there a fix to merge Debian menu in KDE menu structure? |
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| 00:59.31 | kicker | let say i install pingus, its not in games/arcade its in debian/games/arcades |
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| 01:01.13 | mobtek | kicker: ask in #debian-kde |
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| 01:11.06 | kicker_ | how do i merge menus in kde? |
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| 01:12.41 | kicker_ | how do i merge menus in kde? |
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| 02:07.44 | Haro^Haro | hi, i have kdenetwork updated on FC4- how come i dont see the Konqueror plugins that were in FC3- like 'create image gallery'? |
| 02:07.59 | Haro^Haro | do i have to install any additional packages from kde to enable it? |
| 02:11.33 | Pupeno | is the wallet dependent to the computer where it is ? I have changed computer and my password to open the wallet doesn't work. |
| 02:12.22 | SadEagle | Haro^Haro: kdeaddons, dunno how FC packages it |
| 02:12.41 | Haro^Haro | SadEagle, ok, doing a yum search to see if anyth's on |
| 02:12.48 | Haro^Haro | prolly FC4 packages werent updated |
| 02:16.31 | crispynix-v6 | Haro^Haro: you probably need to install konq-plugins (that's what it's named with ubuntu, anyways) |
| 02:16.46 | crispynix-v6 | part of kdeaddons |
| 02:17.28 | Haro^Haro | alright. will try |
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| 02:22.49 | texnofobix | peace |
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| 02:26.43 | ralf | yeah |
| 02:27.07 | ralf | i'm tripping ;) |
| 02:27.12 | ralf | cu |
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| 03:24.09 | metaperl | any kmix users here? |
| 03:24.20 | grepper | no doubt |
| 03:25.27 | metaperl | dont know how to enable my microphone |
| 03:25.56 | grepper | input tab ? |
| 03:26.49 | metaperl | yes under input tab for the mic, there is a dot above and below it |
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| 03:27.25 | grepper | and both enabled ? |
| 03:27.26 | metaperl | capture has a dot below it |
| 03:27.37 | metaperl | I dont know what would mean enabled for the dot below |
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| 03:27.44 | grepper | ie, light green and light red |
| 03:27.44 | metaperl | the one above is a light color instead of red |
| 03:27.48 | grepper | if its the same as here |
| 03:28.13 | whitefungi | any ideas how to prevent kde from restoring the previous session (and thereby never getting past 40%)? |
| 03:29.06 | grepper | its kept in $KDEHOME/share/config/session/ |
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| 03:31.36 | whitefungi | grepper: thanks, I hope that works! :) Though, kde 2.2 is pretty nice. |
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| 03:33.47 | metaperl | ok, I put in a CD and am playing it with kscd... only the top button seems to make a difference in sound being output... however, Krec is not picking up on the CD output in either case... prolly cuz this is not an arts app |
| 03:33.55 | grepper | whitefungi: 2.2 ? ! |
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| 03:42.40 | metaperl | wow, amixer worked just fine! kmix is rather hard to use... no offense KDE'ers :) |
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| 04:02.58 | cbreeze | can you install both kde and gnome for a linux distro and then run gnome programs under kde? |
| 04:03.10 | cbreeze | i mean the libraries and all would still be there right/ |
| 04:03.11 | cbreeze | ? |
| 04:03.19 | _frank | yes you can |
| 04:03.25 | cbreeze | sweet ;) |
| 04:03.33 | cbreeze | i love kde so much :) |
| 04:03.38 | cbreeze | its purdy. |
| 04:03.50 | _frank | your package management can probably handle all the dependencies |
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| 04:04.16 | cbreeze | specially since i use gentoo :) |
| 04:04.25 | cbreeze | anyone have any idea when KDE 4 is going to come out? |
| 04:05.14 | cbreeze | guess not... |
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| 04:13.29 | crispynix-v6 | anyone know what's going on with gtk-qt? development on it seems to have stopped, even though it still has a few issues. |
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| 04:17.30 | kaylee | hey, does anyone know how I can get kontact into the systray? |
| 04:17.38 | kaylee | I want it to notify of new mail, etc. |
| 04:17.49 | kaylee | I had it before, but for the life of me can't remember how |
| 04:17.51 | kaylee | :) |
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| 04:18.41 | narg | kswapd is taking like 33% cpu, yet I have no swap file. Whats wrong with this picture? ;p |
| 04:20.25 | crispynix-v6 | kaylee: kmail config -> appearance -> system tray |
| 04:20.32 | kaylee | ah..thanks |
| 04:20.37 | crispynix-v6 | np |
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| 04:21.48 | kaylee | Much better' |
| 04:21.49 | kaylee | :0 |
| 04:21.50 | kaylee | :) |
| 04:22.27 | kaylee | crispynix-v6: perhaps you can help with this also |
| 04:22.44 | kaylee | I had a mandrake system..I had my mail sorted into various directories,etc |
| 04:22.59 | crispynix-v6 | mail filters |
| 04:23.15 | kaylee | I now have a gentoo system (newer version of kde), and I can get the main directories to load...but all the sub directories (and their messages) aren't showing up |
| 04:23.28 | kaylee | crispynix-v6: sorry...probably should ahve finished before hitting enter :) |
| 04:23.33 | crispynix-v6 | heh |
| 04:23.42 | kaylee | ideas? |
| 04:23.56 | crispynix-v6 | recreate all of the subfolders and assign filters to them? |
| 04:24.06 | crispynix-v6 | actually, nm |
| 04:24.15 | kaylee | well, that's the thing, I'm not even seeing those messages |
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| 04:24.30 | crispynix-v6 | forgot to copy over the stuff containing those message, maybe |
| 04:24.41 | kaylee | do I go into those directories, move all the messages to one level and then just filter? |
| 04:24.46 | kaylee | no, they're there |
| 04:24.52 | crispynix-v6 | just not sorted? |
| 04:24.52 | kaylee | I looked at the dir |
| 04:25.08 | kaylee | no, the messages are not visible at all |
| 04:25.24 | oggb4mp3 | can I symlink ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail to ~/.Mail |
| 04:25.36 | oggb4mp3 | why did kde move the mail folder? |
| 04:25.44 | oggb4mp3 | to a nonstandard place |
| 04:25.47 | crispynix-v6 | weird... I'm not sure, but you can try to recreate the filters and set the account settings correctly then apply the filters on every folder |
| 04:26.07 | crispynix-v6 | (kaylee) |
| 04:26.11 | kaylee | humm...i guess I just have to play with it |
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| 04:30.30 | crispynix-v6 | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110318 <--- can a dev confirm this bug, please? :) |
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| 04:33.37 | seth_k | I was wondering if anyone could tell me... on my laptop, I can use the sftp kioslave to connect to my website, and open a file in Quanta+, which is then edited "live" directly from the site's copy. On my desktop, doing the same thing, the file is copied to /tmp before opening, and won't update the site's copy until I close Quanta -> Yes, upload changed file. Anyone know where to change this setting? Both are running 3.4.2 |
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| 04:46.49 | crispynix-v6 | seth_k: are you using the same client version of ssh on both machines? |
| 04:48.18 | seth_k | crispynix-v6, yes I am. I am using OpenSSH_4.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005 |
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| 04:49.58 | crispynix-v6 | Well, here's what the lftp manpage says: "Fish is a protocol working over an ssh connection to a unix account. SFtp is a protocol implemented in ssh2 as sftp subsystem." |
| 04:50.04 | crispynix-v6 | perhaps you can try fish:// instead? |
| 04:50.15 | crispynix-v6 | (works in konqueror as well) |
| 04:51.11 | seth_k | hmm, a workaround eh |
| 04:51.15 | seth_k | it's worth a try :) |
| 04:59.27 | kaylee | anyone know an easy wait to import (recursive preferred) mozilla mail into kmail? |
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| 05:06.24 | ryoohki | is there a desktop switcher to switch to fluxbox from kde on debian 3.1? |
| 05:07.16 | ryoohki | 'ello? |
| 05:08.48 | seth_k | kaylee, under Tools there is an Import Messages item |
| 05:08.56 | seth_k | kaylee, select "mbox" and go find your mozilla mbox |
| 05:09.07 | kaylee | seth_k: thanks...I wasn't sure which one to use |
| 05:09.07 | kaylee | :) |
| 05:09.14 | kaylee | seth_k: will it do recursive? |
| 05:09.59 | seth_k | ryoohki, if you're wanting to switch TO fluxbox, go ask #fluxbox people :) |
| 05:10.23 | ryoohki | oi! most software developers have an "uninstall" option |
| 05:10.33 | ryoohki | i don't dislike kde |
| 05:10.39 | ryoohki | i have only 128mb |
| 05:10.52 | ryoohki | mplayer swaps and videos are unwatchable |
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| 05:15.02 | systemax | hello everyone |
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| 05:15.38 | akrill | Salut |
| 05:15.48 | systemax | was hoping someone may be able to help me out with some kde troubles |
| 05:15.57 | akrill | what trouble are you having, friend? |
| 05:16.31 | systemax | sound troubles in kde under ubuntu |
| 05:16.53 | akrill | hmm... well, im not an ubuntu users, but i can try and help you anyway. what seems to be the problem? |
| 05:17.17 | systemax | well i took me quite a while to get this far but this is where i currently am |
| 05:18.15 | systemax | if i go into the control panel and use the test sound feature that works but the test midi doesn't also i don't seem to have a master volume slider in either kmix or my taskbar and of course i can't get sound from playing a cd |
| 05:18.55 | akrill | ah. well, i've /never/ been able to figure out the midi on arts. and i've been trying ever since i noticed there was such a feature |
| 05:19.08 | systemax | lol |
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| 05:19.19 | akrill | do you have ubuntu set up with alsa or oss drivers for your sound card? |
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| 05:19.33 | systemax | akrill: alsa |
| 05:20.01 | akrill | ok, what driver? |
| 05:20.12 | systemax | the newest one i just installed it today |
| 05:20.29 | systemax | 1.0.9b |
| 05:20.39 | akrill | what soundcard do you have? |
| 05:21.27 | systemax | VIA8233 |
| 05:21.28 | systemax | VIA8233A |
| 05:21.28 | systemax | VIA8235 |
| 05:21.50 | systemax | or at least that is what it told me i have lol |
| 05:22.07 | akrill | lol, ok. one moment please |
| 05:22.23 | systemax | k |
| 05:23.29 | akrill | ok, do an lsmod and tell me if you see "via82cxxx_audio" listed |
| 05:23.40 | akrill | actually, be easier if you did "lsmod | grep via82cxxx_audio" |
| 05:23.54 | akrill | and tell me if it gives any output |
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| 05:25.19 | systemax | no it doesn't akrill |
| 05:25.37 | akrill | ok, it doesnt look like you even have the driver loaded o.O |
| 05:25.48 | akrill | run "modprobe via82cxxx_audio" |
| 05:25.57 | akrill | and tell me if it returns any errors |
| 05:25.59 | systemax | hmmm weird i did the alsaconf command |
| 05:26.19 | akrill | mmm, look under /etc/init.d and look for something related to alsa or sound |
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| 05:28.41 | systemax | akrill: i have alsa and alsasound |
| 05:29.02 | akrill | ok, try /etc/init.d/alsasound restart |
| 05:29.22 | systemax | akrill: how do you mean? |
| 05:29.41 | akrill | as root in your console, type "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart" |
| 05:30.33 | systemax | k then what? |
| 05:30.56 | akrill | do you happen to have an MP3 somewhere on your system that is easily accessible? |
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| 05:31.11 | systemax | not yet just installed it today |
| 05:31.36 | akrill | ok, do you know where there are any sound files on the system at all? |
| 05:31.55 | systemax | except for in the test audio thing |
| 05:32.01 | Dhraakellian | des ubuntu come with any sample vorbis files? |
| 05:32.06 | Dhraakellian | does* |
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| 05:32.45 | akrill | i dont think it does |
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| 05:33.05 | akrill | systemax: do you know where KDE is installed on the system? i'm going to venture a guess that its under /opt/kde |
| 05:33.48 | systemax | k |
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| 05:44.46 | systemax | akrill i just downloaded an mp3 and it works |
| 05:45.03 | akrill | ok, good. now try restarting KDE |
| 05:45.39 | systemax | k |
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| 05:51.30 | systemax | k akrill i have sound but i didn't get the system sound when i logged in and i still don't have a master volume control anywhere and of course my cd has no sound |
| 05:52.20 | akrill | hmm, well your CD sound might be because you dont have the audio cable lpugged in to your sound card from the CD drive |
| 05:52.41 | systemax | well its and onboard sound card |
| 05:53.29 | akrill | -nods- as is mine. you and i have the same audio chipset |
| 05:54.09 | systemax | i never installed the also plugins today should i do that? |
| 05:56.39 | Clamps | Hi there, I'm tring to debug using kdevelop and gdb, My problem is, I'm tring to use a gdb script to print Qstrings (formated) but whem I'm running gdb insed from kdevelop he uses the ption -nx on gdb (to ignore gdbinit, whem I'm suposed to put the scripts), any light on this? |
| 05:56.52 | systemax | oops sorry the alsa plugins lol |
| 05:57.05 | akrill | ya, thats probably a good idea. |
| 05:57.26 | akrill | Clamps: I seem to be the only one alive here at the moment, and im helping systemax. i'll try and help you momentarily |
| 05:57.40 | Clamps | thanks |
| 05:57.42 | akrill | systemax: what controls /do/ show up in kmix? |
| 05:59.06 | systemax | master mono, pcm, surround, center , lfe, iec958 , pc speaker |
| 05:59.51 | akrill | ok, i'm thinking master mono is actually the master control on our chipset |
| 06:00.23 | systemax | well i don't get any sound unless i have pcm selected |
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| 06:02.11 | akrill | ok, they must have changed the driver or something. pcm would be your master control |
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| 06:02.29 | systemax | ok |
| 06:02.32 | litage | where is kmail's log file kept? i can't seem to find it |
| 06:02.51 | akrill | no idea, actually |
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| 06:02.53 | akrill | sorry |
| 06:03.40 | systemax | akrill i'm in the directory for the alsa plugins where do i go from here |
| 06:03.59 | akrill | i actually have no idea. i have no experience with installing alsa plugins on ubuntu |
| 06:04.17 | systemax | k |
| 06:04.23 | akrill | sorry :-\ |
| 06:05.03 | systemax | thats cool you've done a lot |
| 06:05.06 | systemax | i appreciate it |
| 06:05.13 | akrill | no problem :-) |
| 06:05.53 | systemax | still some kinks but i'm getting there lol |
| 06:06.01 | akrill | lol. first time with linux? |
| 06:07.50 | systemax | i have played with it in the past for a little while but still really new |
| 06:08.06 | systemax | didn't have this sound problem on the other computer |
| 06:08.14 | akrill | ah. what made you choose ubuntu? |
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| 06:09.30 | systemax | well i like the debian packaging and ubuntu tries to give you the most for nothing lol |
| 06:10.20 | akrill | ah, true. debian packaging is nice |
| 06:10.34 | akrill | i still prefer SuSE though. its easier to use than most anything else |
| 06:10.55 | systemax | yes but i had read that the newest version is pretty crippled |
| 06:11.13 | akrill | 9.3? |
| 06:11.14 | akrill | nah. |
| 06:11.39 | systemax | hmmm thats what kept poping up in the articles |
| 06:12.09 | akrill | people have always complained that it doesnt include some features, but thats easily fixed with downloads from packman's RPM site. they cant include those features for legal reasons |
| 06:12.40 | systemax | ahhh |
| 06:13.06 | akrill | some things like MP4 and MP3 technology, are proprietary and cannot be used legally in the US without a license, or some nonsense. |
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| 06:15.15 | akrill | Clamps: unfortunately I have no experience with your problem. I'm sorry :-( |
| 06:15.25 | hume | is there a way to have simultaneous tasks in korganizer (kde 3.3), that is to mark events that don't block me as "occupied"? I cant find any clues in the handbook.... |
| 06:15.25 | Clamps | np |
| 06:16.20 | akrill | hume: i'm not sure, but i would definitely recommend upgrading to 3.4. they have made alot of changes related to that recently. |
| 06:16.30 | systemax | i have a feeling this plugin thing is my problem ...... |
| 06:16.43 | akrill | systemax: could be. |
| 06:17.24 | systemax | akrill let me give you the error it get stuck on maybe you will know what to do |
| 06:17.31 | akrill | ok |
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| 06:22.00 | hume | akrill, ok, i'll check it out |
| 06:24.19 | systemax | akrill did ya get that? |
| 06:24.31 | marcusU | No. |
| 06:24.37 | akrill | -nods-, did you get what i said in response? |
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| 06:24.53 | systemax | no |
| 06:25.07 | akrill | "o.O interesting" |
| 06:25.09 | akrill | "do you know if you have pkg-config installed?" |
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| 06:37.49 | fatejudger | when you select a new desktop is it possible to set it to give you a clean taskbar? |
| 06:38.02 | fatejudger | I don't like having all of my programs already sitting in there |
| 06:38.05 | fatejudger | I don't have much room in my taskbar |
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| 06:39.19 | akrill | -nods- its in the kicker properties, somewhere in the dialog is an option "Show applications from all desktops"... unclick it. |
| 06:39.31 | akrill | then it will only show the applications from the desktop yuo're on |
| 06:39.33 | akrill | *you're |
| 06:39.34 | fatejudger | nice |
| 06:39.37 | fatejudger | kicker? |
| 06:39.52 | akrill | yes, kicker is the name of that bar on the bottom of your screen |
| 06:40.00 | fatejudger | oh |
| 06:40.31 | akrill | right click on an empty space on the bar and click settings (or whatever its labeled... it properties on windows, settings on kde i think) |
| 06:40.45 | fatejudger | yeah |
| 06:40.47 | fatejudger | I figured it out |
| 06:40.47 | fatejudger | thanks |
| 06:40.50 | akrill | no problem :-) |
| 06:40.51 | fatejudger | that really helps me out |
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| 06:41.06 | fatejudger | the new KDE really is nice |
| 06:41.10 | akrill | ya, its wonderful :-) |
| 06:41.17 | akrill | its really progressed. |
| 06:41.21 | fatejudger | seriously |
| 06:41.26 | akrill | just wait til you see what we're cooking up for KDE 4 ;-) |
| 06:41.33 | fatejudger | you're a developer? |
| 06:42.00 | fatejudger | I'm really glad I switched to a KDE oriented distro like Kubuntu |
| 06:42.07 | fatejudger | WAY better than gnome |
| 06:42.12 | akrill | ya, i like SuSE myself |
| 06:42.19 | fatejudger | I used to use SuSE |
| 06:42.22 | fatejudger | it takes too long to boot |
| 06:42.29 | akrill | ya, thats true |
| 06:42.32 | fatejudger | and is really heavy on the packages |
| 06:42.36 | fatejudger | I like 'em light |
| 06:42.50 | akrill | i'm an artist and organizer actually. i dont have the "mad skillz" to do C++ programming yet. i'm a python/java man |
| 06:42.56 | fatejudger | wow |
| 06:43.06 | fatejudger | so that plastik theme |
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| 06:43.14 | fatejudger | when did you guys come up with that? |
| 06:43.32 | fatejudger | that wasn't one of the themes when I last used linux, Slackware I think |
| 06:43.39 | akrill | 3.0 i think |
| 06:43.44 | fatejudger | hmm |
| 06:43.51 | fatejudger | it's really impressive |
| 06:44.27 | akrill | yup. we're working on alot of enhancements to it preparing for KDE 4. you should check out http://www.kde-artists.org, thats where we're going alot of the discussions and "kollaborating" |
| 06:44.27 | akrill | :-p |
| 06:44.31 | fatejudger | lol |
| 06:46.08 | akrill | plastic is /alot/ better than keramik. and actually now that i think about it keramik was the default for 3.0... i cant remember when plastik became default |
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| 06:50.33 | fatejudger | I thought it was like |
| 06:50.35 | fatejudger | 3.4 |
| 06:50.37 | fatejudger | or 3.3 |
| 06:50.45 | fatejudger | cause I think I was using 3.2 |
| 06:50.46 | fatejudger | on Slackware |
| 06:50.58 | fatejudger | and it used that ugly Keramik |
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| 06:52.43 | akrill | must've been 3.3 |
| 06:52.47 | akrill | i know it was there prior to 3.4 |
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| 06:53.06 | fatejudger | that theme drove me to use Gnome, which made me hate linux for quite some time |
| 06:53.22 | manas | how do set konsole to have transparent backgrounds? |
| 06:53.42 | akrill | manas: its under the settings menu somewhere. i cant remember the exact submenu |
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| 06:54.42 | akrill | under one of the submenus, you have a list of things like "White on Black", "Black on White", "Dark Transparent", "Light Transparent", etc |
| 06:54.47 | akrill | i cant for the life of me remember the submenu |
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| 06:57.47 | Me_Am_You | Hello, anyonr around? |
| 06:58.00 | rr72 | sure |
| 06:58.30 | rr72 | punkcut~ havent u ever wondered what the hsd1 in comcast hostnames are? |
| 06:58.35 | rr72 | i too use comcast |
| 06:58.51 | znh | Me_Am_You, I think I am still here.. |
| 06:58.53 | akrill | i'm around |
| 06:59.04 | punkcut | rr72 : no idea |
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| 06:59.16 | Me_Am_You | :) I am tired, but I just popped in to say Hi to everyone, I had a question i was going to ask, but now it just seems I am even too tired to mess with it. I was going to get to sleep a little while ago, but i was sending an email to someone to give me comments on a short story, then I sent it and turned offf my computer and went to lay down. Only after I was very comfortable did I realize that i had forgotten to add the attachment |
| 06:59.28 | fatejudger | ... |
| 06:59.38 | _jcesaro | :| |
| 06:59.38 | fatejudger | why is he coming into the KDE forum to tell us about his life? |
| 06:59.46 | fatejudger | kde irc channel |
| 06:59.50 | fatejudger | wow, I need sleep |
| 06:59.52 | fatejudger | lol |
| 07:00.03 | rr72 | Me_Am_You~ i hope u resent the e-mail :P |
| 07:00.18 | Me_Am_You | :P Of course, but now i feel dumb. |
| 07:00.24 | rr72 | ur tired |
| 07:00.29 | akrill | well, im out |
| 07:00.40 | Me_Am_You | Ok goodnight thenm nice meeting you. |
| 07:00.56 | rr72 | just think. if u were driving u wouldve been pulled over for looking like a drunk person |
| 07:01.03 | fatejudger | lol |
| 07:01.12 | rr72 | its true |
| 07:01.23 | Me_Am_You | Lol. good point, i dont know why i force myself to stay up |
| 07:01.35 | rr72 | falling asleap at the wheel is just as bad if not worse than DUI |
| 07:01.36 | fatejudger | lol |
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| 07:02.08 | Me_Am_You | I dont think id ever fall alseep at the wheel, or at least not totally. Id pull off the side of the road |
| 07:02.18 | punkcut | jcesario: ping |
| 07:02.22 | rr72 | pong |
| 07:02.27 | punkcut | jcesaro |
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| 07:02.30 | jcesaro_deb | Jajaja |
| 07:02.35 | jcesaro_deb | :p |
| 07:02.44 | rr72 | Me_Am_You~ theres only so much u can do to keep urself awake |
| 07:02.49 | punkcut | jcesaro_deb: can i pm you? |
| 07:02.58 | jcesaro_deb | :| |
| 07:03.20 | Me_Am_You | rr72: Im sure you can do something highly illegal to help |
| 07:03.26 | rr72 | im sure to |
| 07:03.47 | rr72 | im talking about caffeine/coffe and turning on A/C so blowing right on u |
| 07:04.05 | rr72 | what time is it over by u? |
| 07:04.11 | rr72 | Wed Aug 10 02:04:05 CDT 2005 |
| 07:04.17 | Me_Am_You | Ah yes, well that never helps. I have 2:04 |
| 07:04.40 | Me_Am_You | Ah, Im in Central standard time, Texas |
| 07:05.10 | rr72 | Illinois here |
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| 07:05.40 | jcesaro_deb | 3:07 OVER HERE |
| 07:05.55 | Me_Am_You | Ah, Well I feel sorry for you, go to sleep |
| 07:05.56 | Me_Am_You | now |
| 07:06.22 | jcesaro_deb | l0l |
| 07:06.50 | jcesaro_deb | im awake since 2:00 am |
| 07:07.05 | Me_Am_You | Ah ok lol |
| 07:07.22 | rr72 | awake since 11:00 AM |
| 07:07.37 | Me_Am_You | Awake since 12 P.M |
| 07:07.41 | Me_Am_You | :P |
| 07:08.05 | rr72 | u have me beet |
| 07:08.19 | rr72 | but went to bed at 3:00 AM |
| 07:09.03 | Me_Am_You | I dont know what time I went to sleep, I imagin 4 to 5 but now i gotta major headache and i am talkinggf too fragmented to be a writer, must mean im getting tired |
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| 07:10.36 | Me_Am_You | Nice meeting all you people, but I am afraid that I have to take my leave. I got a poetry convention tomorrow that I am looking forward too, its early and I can't be late |
| 07:10.39 | rr72 | what do u write? |
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| 07:10.47 | Me_Am_You | Well |
| 07:10.50 | Me_Am_You | I write fiction |
| 07:10.50 | rr72 | poertry |
| 07:10.53 | Me_Am_You | Horror |
| 07:10.55 | rr72 | i type slow |
| 07:11.01 | Me_Am_You | :P |
| 07:11.08 | rr72 | nn |
| 07:11.17 | Me_Am_You | Yes, I write horror/suspense fiction but mostly dark, twisted horror |
| 07:11.18 | rr72 | i got to play some more of my psp |
| 07:11.29 | rr72 | are right in the head? :P |
| 07:11.41 | Me_Am_You | Lol, nope |
| 07:12.47 | rr72 | if u need me pm rr72_ |
| 07:12.59 | rr72 | other nick thats always on |
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| 07:17.15 | Lord-Phoenix | dear god....the new aaron may blog more than the old one |
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| 07:45.21 | znh | Hmm are there some more systrays? |
| 07:45.27 | znh | I don't like the kickers default |
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| 07:50.53 | pinotree | hello :) |
| 07:51.15 | znh | Does there exist some website dedicated to kicker applets? |
| 07:51.30 | pinotree | znh: developer info? |
| 07:51.43 | znh | pinotree, no just the applets it self |
| 07:52.14 | pinotree | mm... |
| 07:52.16 | pinotree | no, iirc |
| 07:52.28 | znh | :'[ |
| 07:52.38 | pinotree | what kind of info are you looking for? |
| 07:52.56 | znh | A variant the default systray |
| 07:53.02 | znh | +of |
| 07:53.18 | Lord-Phoenix | znh: kde-apps? |
| 07:53.28 | znh | Lord-Phoenix, yea I am searching on that site currently |
| 07:53.44 | Lord-Phoenix | znh: its pretty tough going though :) |
| 07:53.54 | znh | :/ pardon me |
| 07:55.22 | znh | I am searching a systray that fits nicely in my kicker: http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde0024uy.jpg |
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| 08:03.28 | dolphin | is video screenshotting planned for ksnapshot? |
| 08:03.40 | jcesaro_deb | -_- |
| 08:03.43 | jcesaro_deb | are u a bot |
| 08:03.45 | jcesaro_deb | ? |
| 08:04.12 | dolphin | who? |
| 08:04.20 | dolphin | sure I am |
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| 08:05.39 | jcesaro_deb | ... |
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| 08:12.04 | cocobo | how can I make the icons in the system tray look like the icons in my theme |
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| 08:13.41 | png | how can i set mozilla-thunderbird default mail client? i dont want to use evolution |
| 08:13.43 | cocobo | the system tray used to have my theme a long time ago but it only use crystal theme now |
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| 08:14.28 | notbadname | Hello Everybody |
| 08:14.31 | notbadname | Howdy |
| 08:15.18 | notbadname | is there a one click all account sign off option in Kopete? |
| 08:15.27 | notbadname | or a short-cut? |
| 08:15.52 | jcesaro_deb | mmmmmmm |
| 08:16.00 | jcesaro_deb | let me see, cuz i barely use kopete |
| 08:17.11 | jcesaro_deb | dont know |
| 08:17.15 | jcesaro_deb | ye |
| 08:17.16 | jcesaro_deb | sitr exist |
| 08:17.18 | pinotree | notbadname: yes, there is |
| 08:17.39 | png | when i click an email-link. how can i set mozilla-thunderbird default mail client? i dont want to use evolution. when i clicked an email-link. iwant thunderbird opens. not wvolution |
| 08:17.42 | jcesaro_deb | File _> Conexion DIsconect all |
| 08:18.25 | notbadname | jcesaro_deb: i want one click solution, |
| 08:18.59 | notbadname | jcesaro_deb: because i won't always keep main window |
| 08:19.06 | pinotree | notbadname: you can customize your toolbar and put that action there |
| 08:19.12 | manas | can't konqueror do the write to disc thing for ISOs which nautilus does? |
| 08:19.31 | notbadname | jcesaro_deb: i connect disconnect frequently |
| 08:20.02 | pinotree | notbadname: you can use also the tray icon, right click Status->Offline |
| 08:20.19 | jcesaro_deb | :) |
| 08:20.20 | jcesaro_deb | Disconnect-all |
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| 08:20.27 | jcesaro_deb | there is tha option |
| 08:22.09 | notbadname | ok thanks |
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| 08:30.46 | jcesaro_deb | :| |
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| 08:35.18 | pinotree | hey lilo |
| 08:35.27 | pinotree | what's happened to cloacks? |
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| 08:56.55 | pinotree | good day PhilRod |
| 08:57.06 | pinotree | all right? |
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| 09:00.31 | samdfo0l | hi all |
| 09:01.00 | PhilRod | not bad pinotree - yourself? |
| 09:01.07 | PhilRod | hi samdfo0l |
| 09:01.09 | pinotree | fine too, thanks |
| 09:01.49 | samdfo0l | could someone tell me where to use web shortcuts from the control panel ? |
| 09:02.01 | samdfo0l | I've tried in konqueror... :? |
| 09:02.38 | pinotree | samdfo0l: use or configure? |
| 09:02.50 | samdfo0l | pinotree > use |
| 09:02.58 | pinotree | in konqueror |
| 09:03.06 | pinotree | for example |
| 09:03.18 | pinotree | gg:kde to search for 'kde' with google |
| 09:03.28 | pinotree | in the address bar |
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| 09:03.49 | pinotree | PhilRod: could i ask you a question about docbook markups? |
| 09:03.51 | samdfo0l | pinotree > thx a lot !! |
| 09:03.58 | PhilRod | pinotree: certainly |
| 09:03.58 | pinotree | samdfo0l: np |
| 09:04.03 | samdfo0l | ;) |
| 09:04.22 | pinotree | PhilRod: in a text, how should i indicate an env var? |
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| 09:04.38 | pinotree | "If you don't know which is your <filename class="directory">$<envar>KDEDIR</envar></filename>, ..." |
| 09:04.49 | pinotree | ^^^ is that right? |
| 09:05.22 | PhilRod | yes, that looks right |
| 09:05.27 | pinotree | :) thanks |
| 09:05.52 | PhilRod | just checked - it is right :-) |
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| 09:22.10 | manas | konqueror can't burn CDs like nautilus, can it? I needs k3b. Right? |
| 09:22.53 | mobtek | yuppers |
| 09:23.03 | bluelightning | there's kio_burn of course |
| 09:23.12 | mobtek | bluelightning: ahh heheh |
| 09:23.18 | manas | what is kio_burn? |
| 09:23.38 | bluelightning | http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~jrht100/burn/ |
| 09:23.59 | bluelightning | manas: probably just what you're looking for I'm guessing :) |
| 09:25.19 | manas | it doesn't have a install candidate in ubuntu :( |
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| 09:28.06 | manas | but, the deb installs :) |
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| 09:30.43 | manas | however, I do not see any additions to the menu.... |
| 09:30.51 | manas | Do I need to restart KDE? |
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| 09:33.25 | rober | hi |
| 09:33.36 | rober | i just wanted to let you know i tried to open my samsung ml-1710p pdf manual and both kghostview and kpdf complain about unknown mime type octet-stream, while xpdf words flawlessly. Is not kpdf based on xpdf ? |
| 09:34.21 | mobtek | don't think so |
| 09:34.44 | johnny69 | Could someone recommend some kind of address/phonebook OTHER than what comes with KDE? Anyone? (fedora core 3/Kde 3.4.2) |
| 09:35.02 | bluelightning | manas: just type burn:/ into a konqueror address bar |
| 09:35.35 | bluelightning | rober: yes, I believe kpdf is based on xpdf |
| 09:35.51 | bluelightning | perhaps you could file a bug with a link to the PDF? |
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| 09:38.30 | PhilRod | rober: sounds like you've got a problem with file associations - do kpdf and kghostview open the PDF at all? |
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| 09:46.17 | rober | PhilRod: no, they don't |
| 09:47.08 | PhilRod | oh, wait - how are you opening the file? clicking on a pdf in konq, or run kpdf, then File->Open? |
| 09:47.35 | rober | PhilRod: any way Phil, look -> kpdf: WARNING: Unknown mimetype 'application/octet-stream'. |
| 09:48.16 | rober | and that's the only message i see, before a popup (in kpdf) appears and tells me it's not possible to open the file |
| 09:49.39 | PhilRod | try the following: rename ~./kde/share/mimelnk to mimelnk-backup or something. Restart KDE and try again |
| 09:50.14 | rober | ok |
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| 09:52.19 | rober | hi |
| 09:52.21 | rober | PhilRod: no way |
| 09:52.32 | PhilRod | ? |
| 09:53.25 | rober | PhilRod: i tried what you said, renaming mimelnk to mimelnk-backup then restarting kde |
| 09:54.46 | rober | it seems kpdf takes the first bytes of the pdf file in account, while xpdf doesn't |
| 09:55.08 | rober | so if the header is buggy kpdf won't work, while xpdf will work |
| 09:55.50 | PhilRod | weird |
| 09:56.01 | mike-m | post the bug with the pdf |
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| 10:22.15 | mobtek | damn the dot is down? |
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| 10:37.56 | mmodem | anyone here using branch_3.5? |
| 10:39.14 | carsten | yes |
| 10:39.44 | mmodem | when u right click in the menu all appears ok in the config dialog? |
| 10:39.57 | carsten | in which app? |
| 10:40.25 | carsten | and click where? |
| 10:40.33 | mmodem | im asking if when u right click in the menu and click to configure the menu, if the configure dialog appears ok |
| 10:41.32 | pinotree | right click where? |
| 10:41.42 | mmodem | in the menu!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:41.48 | mmodem | in kicker! |
| 10:42.13 | huhmz | where do you configure kde to allow other boxes to display apps on your desktop? ie ssh -X works |
| 10:42.16 | pinotree | menu != kicker |
| 10:42.55 | carsten | mmodem, in kicker there is only "edit item". Do you mean that? |
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| 10:44.09 | mmodem | when u right click in kicker you have the subfolder Panel Menu and there click in configure, whats the big deal? |
| 10:44.26 | lauri | that's for configuring the panel, not the menu |
| 10:44.45 | mmodem | what a big confusion eheheh |
| 10:45.10 | lauri | huhmz: kmenuedit is the app you want (or you can make an icon anywhere, and put "ssh -XYf <othermachine> <app-to-run>" as the command |
| 10:45.50 | lauri | (Y may be unnecessary, but won't hurt, it'll stop the app spewing X errors all over the remote machine, and running slowly) |
| 10:46.06 | huhmz | well the problem is that it wont allow it |
| 10:46.07 | lauri | and -f is execute this command on that machine, and background (so it won't open a shell, it'll just run the app) |
| 10:46.32 | lauri | if you open a konsole, and type the command, does it work? |
| 10:46.40 | huhmz | no |
| 10:46.55 | lauri | can you ping the machine by hostname (and can that machine ping you, by hostname) |
| 10:47.07 | huhmz | dude listen |
| 10:47.25 | mmodem | and no one can answer me |
| 10:47.28 | lauri | I am |
| 10:47.49 | huhmz | its because -nolisten tcp in xinit |
| 10:47.56 | huhmz | there must be a configure option in kde |
| 10:48.07 | lauri | to execute a remote app, you need a: an account on the machine, b: forward and reverse name rsolution, and c: xauth on both machines |
| 10:48.16 | huhmz | "allow remote computers to open windows on this box" or something |
| 10:48.19 | lauri | xinit is not part of KDE; it's X |
| 10:48.27 | lauri | this is not a KDE configuration issue |
| 10:48.29 | huhmz | yes exactly xauth |
| 10:48.41 | lauri | you need it installed, on both sides |
| 10:49.04 | huhmz | kdm starts X with -nolisten |
| 10:49.14 | huhmz | it has to be configureable somewhere in kde |
| 10:49.27 | lauri | no, it's not a KDE issue |
| 10:49.59 | huhmz | you can do it in gnome, change the -nolisten thing on the fly |
| 10:50.06 | huhmz | should be possible in kde |
| 10:50.48 | lauri | it is not |
| 10:50.53 | lauri | because it is not a KDE configuration |
| 10:51.08 | huhmz | it's an X configuration |
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| 10:53.07 | mmodem | im using branch_3.5 like i said and in kcontrol -> Appearance ->Panels nothing appears |
| 10:53.54 | lauri | there is no panels under appearance and themes in kcontrol in 3.5 |
| 10:54.05 | lauri | it's under desktop, do you have it there, and does that one work? |
| 10:54.26 | carsten | mobtek, lauri: i have it there, working |
| 10:54.41 | lauri | interesting :) |
| 10:54.49 | lauri | it's definitely under Desktop -> here |
| 10:55.13 | mobtek | heh carsten |
| 10:55.41 | carsten | lauri, I have it under desktop as well |
| 10:55.49 | mobtek | hey carsten when I need icons for a Qt app that will be ported to kde eventually, would it still be cool to ask for contribs from artists.org? |
| 10:56.04 | lauri | so, did you do upgrades? and from what? |
| 10:56.44 | mmodem | lauri: didnt u read what i just entered, didnt i said kcontrol -> Appearance ->Panels ? |
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| 10:57.06 | lauri | good lord, what is with this place today |
| 10:57.21 | lauri | mmodem: in a fresh KDE 3.5 install, there is *no* *entry* *under* *appearance* |
| 10:57.27 | lauri | the panels tab is under Desktop |
| 10:57.29 | carsten | mmodem, lauri is correct! |
| 10:57.44 | lauri | if you *have* it there too, does the other one work? |
| 10:58.06 | mmodem | desktop??? where is that |
| 10:58.08 | lauri | the one under appearance must be a leftover from a previous install (that kind of stuff is usually only cleaned up near to releases to uninstall the old ones |
| 10:58.14 | lauri | KControl -> Desktop -> Panels |
| 10:58.24 | mmodem | i have no entry for desktop |
| 10:58.36 | lauri | then your KDE is far too broken for us to help you |
| 10:59.09 | mmodem | i have the same menus in kcontrol that existed in 3.4.2 |
| 10:59.23 | lauri | mobtek: I think it's ok, especially if you word it carefully to emphasise how it will help your app integrate better with KDE :) |
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| 10:59.32 | mobtek | lauri: heh cool |
| 10:59.37 | musicistaCont | hi |
| 10:59.43 | pinotree | hello musicistaCont |
| 10:59.48 | musicistaCont | i have a problem whit kdevelop 3.2.0 |
| 10:59.57 | mobtek | lauri: yeah but the plain Qt win osx and linux comes first :), most of the users will be on windows :) |
| 11:00.05 | mmodem | and dont say i have it broken cause i just compiled all yesterday from svn |
| 11:00.10 | mobtek | lauri: cool I will ask when it comes time :) |
| 11:00.21 | musicistaCont | code completion don't work only whit libstdc++ 3.4 |
| 11:00.30 | carsten | mmodem, I and lauri have the very same result here |
| 11:00.48 | lauri | mmodem: http://people.fruitsalad.org/lauri/screenshots/desktop-2005-08-10.png |
| 11:00.51 | mmodem | and u use branch_3.5? |
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| 11:01.00 | lauri | look at the screenshot |
| 11:01.09 | lauri | are you telling me the entry on the left Desktop does not exist for you? |
| 11:01.20 | hussam | where can I find a kde botton so I can link to kde.org from my forums? |
| 11:01.40 | mmodem | lauri: i did and like i said i dont have no desktop entry |
| 11:01.47 | lauri | mmodem: http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php |
| 11:01.54 | lauri | sorry, hussam that link was for you |
| 11:02.04 | lauri | mmodem: then your KDE install is either very broken or very incomplete |
| 11:02.29 | mmodem | lauri: thats not possible i just compiled and installed kdelibs and kdebase |
| 11:02.41 | lauri | oh, based on this conversation, I'm thinking it's very possible |
| 11:02.43 | musicistaCont | i make new database PSC but i don't work i install ctag but nothing you have an idea? |
| 11:02.52 | mmodem | lauri: really? how |
| 11:03.19 | lauri | musicistaCont: you might want to hit #kde-devel with that one |
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| 11:03.25 | mmodem | lauri: i think u dont use branch_3.5, ur using maybe trunk |
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| 11:03.26 | lauri | musicistaCont: or check if there is anyone in #kdevelop |
| 11:03.36 | CountZ | what's the kde developers page? |
| 11:03.43 | CountZ | uh, i meant channel |
| 11:03.48 | lauri | mmodem: I have multiple installations of both 3.4.2, 3.5 and trunk |
| 11:03.48 | pinotree | CountZ: blogs? |
| 11:03.52 | pinotree | ah |
| 11:03.57 | pinotree | CountZ: #kde-devel |
| 11:04.23 | mmodem | and im using only branch_3.5 and i have this, so u cant say that i have any broken |
| 11:04.25 | CountZ | thanks |
| 11:05.21 | lauri | mmodem: http://people.fruitsalad.org/lauri/screenshots/desktop-2005-08-10a.png |
| 11:05.31 | lauri | 3.5 *and* a 3.4.2 from another machine kcontrol |
| 11:05.43 | lauri | and both machines have only those versions on, so they're not affecting each other |
| 11:05.48 | lauri | oh he left |
| 11:06.09 | mobtek | hehe you can be a bit scary sometimes lauri :P |
| 11:06.15 | lauri | (pity he didn't ask me again why I think his KDE install is broken, I was on the verge of saying "because you're clearly too goddamn stupid to build it right" |
| 11:06.31 | lauri | I am not! I'm sweetness and light personified :) |
| 11:06.37 | mobtek | hehehe |
| 11:06.39 | pinotree | lauri: do you read the kde-devel ml? |
| 11:06.49 | lauri | only if I must |
| 11:07.03 | lauri | pinotree: it's got a signal to noise ratio of like 247 to 1 |
| 11:07.08 | lauri | except the other way around |
| 11:07.19 | mobtek | heh I noticed that too |
| 11:07.24 | pinotree | lauri: mmodem is Zé on that ml |
| 11:07.32 | pinotree | you can compare that... |
| 11:07.54 | lauri | yeah, I'm so tempted to go ask for mod privileges on that lis |
| 11:07.55 | lauri | t |
| 11:07.58 | lauri | I'm pretty sure they'd let me too |
| 11:08.13 | PhilRod | he came back?! |
| 11:08.18 | lauri | (cos god knows hardly anyone actually working on KDE reads it :) |
| 11:08.18 | PhilRod | after being banned twice |
| 11:08.48 | lauri | he is the only person *ever* that I have seen actually manage to piss off David Faure (who is, in fact, the *nicest* person on the planet) into being rude to him |
| 11:08.54 | CountZ | lauri: I'm considering running FreeBSD as well |
| 11:08.56 | CountZ | lauri: You recommend? |
| 11:09.00 | lauri | CountZ: are you stupid? |
| 11:09.02 | CountZ | (Instead of Debian Linux) |
| 11:09.05 | lauri | (serious question, are you?) |
| 11:09.06 | musicistaCont | i go to #kde-devel but noone answer to me!!! |
| 11:09.15 | lauri | if you're not, then you'll be fine :) |
| 11:09.17 | CountZ | lauri: I am a bit stupid, yes :-) |
| 11:09.26 | lauri | if you are, I'll be mean to you a lot, and make you stop |
| 11:09.33 | CountZ | :-) |
| 11:09.42 | lauri | hmmm, stupid but admits it gets a day pass to give it a try :) |
| 11:09.45 | PhilRod | lauri: nah, I get on fine with FBSD - nowt wrong with being stupid :-) |
| 11:09.50 | musicistaCont | i go to #kde-devel but noone answer to me. why? |
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| 11:10.07 | PhilRod | musicistaCont: they're all afk? perhaps no one knows the answer |
| 11:10.12 | CountZ | musicistaCont: Because you did not say what the problem was |
| 11:10.14 | mdouhan | musicistaCont: noone knew the answer maybe |
| 11:10.22 | CountZ | PhilRod: He didn't state the problem |
| 11:10.22 | lauri | guys, i just sent him there |
| 11:10.34 | lauri | because it's a kdevelop + ctags question, and nobody here hardly uses kdevelop |
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| 11:10.46 | PhilRod | is there a #kdevelop? |
| 11:10.55 | PhilRod | lunch, bbiab |
| 11:11.18 | lauri | there is and it's full up of people too |
| 11:11.21 | lauri | try there musicistaCont |
| 11:11.36 | lauri | (and just ask your question, if you say "can I ask a question" everyone will either ignore you, or say no :) |
| 11:12.06 | musicistaCont | thank you lauri |
| 11:12.41 | lauri | CountZ: emigrating from debian to FreeBSD I would give you this advice |
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| 11:13.20 | lauri | 1: It's not linux, as much as it looks like it, 2: it's got LOTS of very very good docs, do read the first two chapters of the handbook thoroughly, and at least skim the rest before you start, so you know what it covers |
| 11:14.00 | lauri | and once you get past installing and playing, you'll go "but where's apt", so make yourself a note right now to install portugrade, read it's (most excellent, I wish ours were so good) man page, and then look up the little series of articles at onlamp by Dru Lavigne |
| 11:14.20 | lauri | and the rest of 1-10 best bits of advice I have, repeat #1 until done |
| 11:15.43 | lauri | (unix is unix, a shell is a shell, but everything little things like bsd make, ls, tar being not the gnu ones, to big things like that we don't use /proc because we have better ways, can be very confounding (but hey! it's all well documented, when freebsd people say RTFM we mean it as excellent advice, not laziness :) |
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| 11:24.24 | desowin | I'm using gentoo, and I'm configuring kde for my brother. Is there any way to allow him to shutdown computer from the 'Logout' dialog (I've got only logout and cancel button). I would like something like it was mandrake. Is it possible ? |
| 11:25.30 | StarScream | desowin: use kdm and you can do it within kde then |
| 11:26.45 | desowin | is there any way to do it without kdm ? (I don't like desktop managers, my brother simply login with typing his name and pressing enter) |
| 11:27.21 | desowin | sorry desktop managers shall be login managers |
| 11:27.26 | StarScream | lauri: how does BSD do the /proc thing? |
| 11:27.51 | lauri | StarScream: how many days do you have? |
| 11:28.09 | StarScream | lauri: i'm at work, so at least 100 more this year :) |
| 11:28.12 | lauri | and which bit of the proc thing would you like the answer for that for |
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| 11:28.24 | lauri | mostly it's with sysctl |
| 11:28.50 | lauri | (to read kernel variables, to set many of them, find out values of things) |
| 11:29.15 | lauri | I don't really know what else proc is for other than making my stuff not compile so it needs ifdeffing |
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| 11:29.30 | StarScream | lauri: ok, what are the benifits of how sysctl does things over /proc ? |
| 11:29.51 | lauri | well, I don't need another file system cluttering my df output :) |
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| 11:31.43 | lauri | it's all accessible via a very simple cli, and has a standard api, all apps can get at whatever information they need via a couple of lines of code (no need to figure out what where and how to parse stuff, for instance, to find out what your network interfaces are doing) |
| 11:32.08 | lauri | security, it doesn't have the hassles a filesystem does wrt access of information (even a psuedo file system) |
| 11:32.46 | desowin | i think i can get it with replacing 'startx' to 'sudo kdm' (in my brother profile) and setting auto-login as him. But is there any way to stop kdm ? |
| 11:32.48 | lauri | I dunno what else, like I said, I barely know what proc is for other than making my life miserable when porting applications :) |
| 11:33.10 | lauri | desowin: thats up to your distribution where it is started |
| 11:33.20 | lauri | desowin: and there are many *many* places that could be, you should ask #gentoo |
| 11:34.06 | lauri | because I don't know it (it's probably in your init scripts somewhere, but really, that's about as much as I can tell you, I don't know if it's starting during boot with the tty's or running later from a shell script) |
| 11:34.15 | desowin | thanks for clues |
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| 11:35.19 | lauri | desowin: as for your brother, I'd be tempted to do something evil in his shell rc files |
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| 11:36.24 | lauri | like if ($?DISPLAY) then startx |
| 11:36.41 | lauri | or rather, don't startx, heh |
| 11:36.56 | lauri | start it if display is *not* set |
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| 11:40.48 | jetli68 | hi all |
| 11:41.19 | PhilRod | hi |
| 11:41.47 | jetli68 | hows it going? |
| 11:42.34 | PhilRod | fine thanks |
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| 11:45.43 | pinotree | urg. |
| 11:46.00 | pinotree | (better) |
| 11:46.33 | lauri | and sometimes, they join, say hi, and go, without actually asking anything :) |
| 11:47.03 | pinotree | well, but at least they greet ;) |
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| 11:47.26 | jeh_work | not everyone has problems, you see |
| 11:48.01 | pinotree | even if you have problems, you could be gently, we're not robots |
| 11:48.37 | carsten | lauri, read kde-devel... |
| 11:48.48 | carsten | modemm really wrote a mail to kde-devel... |
| 11:49.05 | pinotree | carsten: yup, that gut is REALLY idiot IMHO |
| 11:49.11 | pinotree | guy* |
| 11:49.31 | pinotree | he wants help, but he refuses to hear the people |
| 11:49.33 | PhilRod | hah, you ain't seen nuffin' yet |
| 11:49.52 | PhilRod | the reason he's banned in here: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/stuff/ze-is-a-twit |
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| 11:50.01 | PhilRod | sadly, you have to read the whole thing to see why |
| 11:50.18 | pinotree | PhilRod: i had a "fight" with him once |
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| 11:53.10 | pinotree | PhilRod: i imagine that.. |
| 11:53.29 | carsten | lol, PhilRod that guy is cool :) |
| 11:53.32 | pinotree | PhilRod: is he banned? |
| 11:53.38 | lauri | yes, but he just changes name |
| 11:53.40 | carsten | User-X is banned, yes |
| 11:53.56 | pinotree | lauri: he uses Other sometimes |
| 11:54.12 | pinotree | and mmodem other times |
| 11:54.16 | lauri | if i'd known it was him, I'd have just kicked him out directly and not even bothered answering |
| 11:54.34 | pinotree | just do whois on him |
| 11:54.41 | pinotree | he should be User_X |
| 11:54.46 | carsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.54 | carsten | [mmodem] is an identified user |
| 11:55.05 | carsten | pinotree, as you see, he even has identifed himself :) |
| 11:55.19 | pinotree | well, a better way to kick him :D |
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| 11:56.08 | pinotree | lauri: nice reply :) |
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| 11:59.14 | dargo | hi all |
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| 12:00.38 | dargo | Somebody knows if it is possible to add to support flash-player to the konqueror? |
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| 12:00.45 | donofrio | morning |
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| 12:01.26 | donofrio | anyone here use ntp with kde 3.4? I've got the package installed but when I click on "Set date and time automatically:" it returns cannot contact pool.ntp.org? |
| 12:01.50 | PhilRod | can you ping pool.ntp.org? |
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| 12:04.30 | donofrio | I'll try... |
| 12:04.48 | donofrio | [donofrio@localhost donofrio]$ ping pool.ntp.org |
| 12:04.48 | donofrio | PING pool.ntp.org (213.186.60.47) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 12:04.49 | donofrio | 64 bytes from mx.prealable.org (213.186.60.47): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=105 ms |
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| 12:12.40 | donofrio | any thoughts? |
| 12:14.26 | PhilRod | try running "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" as root |
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| 12:18.02 | donofrio | ok on moment |
| 12:18.39 | EasterSunshine | dargo: both of these channels are pretty idle, you can try ubuntu, its pretty lively there, although most of them are gnome-oriented |
| 12:19.01 | dargo | ok, i'll try |
| 12:19.02 | dargo | :P |
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| 12:22.16 | donofrio | humm command not found but ntp rpm is installed on my distro.... |
| 12:23.49 | EasterSunshine | and by ubuntu, i meant the channel |
| 12:23.57 | EasterSunshine | i hope i didn't send him...reinstalling linux |
| 12:24.31 | donofrio | hehehehe its good for the soul.....repent-reinstall |
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| 12:28.51 | Psyco | hi |
| 12:29.36 | Psyco | I would like run a script when I turn on the computer |
| 12:29.44 | Psyco | I have done the script |
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| 12:30.14 | Psyco | but I don't know which file I should edit to run this script |
| 12:30.22 | Psyco | any idea? |
| 12:30.23 | Hijacker | hey all... is there a multiplayer version of konquest? :) |
| 12:30.56 | carsten | Wesnot? |
| 12:31.09 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 12:31.10 | apt | somebody said autostart was http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html question 10.10 |
| 12:31.24 | PhilRod | Psyco: if you want the script to run when you start KDE, see that link ^^^ |
| 12:31.35 | Psyco | ok |
| 12:31.36 | PhilRod | if you want it to run at startup, ask in #yourdistro |
| 12:31.37 | Psyco | I will |
| 12:31.57 | PhilRod | s/startup/distro startup (ie, before X is started)/ |
| 12:32.21 | EasterSunshine | just as i thought, philrod is an op in #yourdistro |
| 12:33.32 | PhilRod | :-) |
| 12:33.47 | donofrio | what distro is that (-; |
| 12:33.50 | donofrio | hehehe |
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| 12:34.53 | donofrio | finnaly.....spelling is very important.... |
| 12:34.55 | donofrio | [root@localhost root]# ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 12:34.56 | donofrio | 10 Aug 12:34:28 ntpdate[9759]: adjust time server 84.16.227.160 offset -0.007046 sec |
| 12:35.42 | donofrio | but if its 0835 why does my kde clock say 1235? |
| 12:35.51 | PhilRod | UTC vs local time? |
| 12:35.56 | donofrio | yep |
| 12:36.21 | donofrio | how do I make it look right for where I'm at without looking like a visitor in a new timezone? |
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| 12:36.46 | abyss | how can i run program as different user form konsole? |
| 12:37.11 | abyss | i know how to do this by run command and desktop icons, but that is not what i need |
| 12:37.25 | donofrio | (ie I want my date and time in the full clock kicker tray - http://tinyurl.com/9qdoa) |
| 12:37.57 | PhilRod | abyss: su, or whatever other tools your distro provides |
| 12:38.09 | abyss | nope |
| 12:38.19 | abyss | su says that connection to X refused ... |
| 12:38.39 | PhilRod | donofrio: compare the output of "hwclock --whatever-the-option-is-to-see-the-time" and "date" |
| 12:38.53 | PhilRod | (the first shows the hardware clock, the second the system clock) |
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| 12:39.29 | PhilRod | abyss: read up on xauth, or if you're lazy, do "xhost +localhost" as the user who's running X |
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| 12:39.48 | donofrio | [root@localhost root]# hwclock --show |
| 12:39.48 | donofrio | Wed 10 Aug 2005 08:39:31 AM UTC -0.705377 seconds |
| 12:40.29 | abyss | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 12:40.29 | abyss | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 12:40.31 | donofrio | but rtc is not utc |
| 12:40.39 | donofrio | abyss - just use kdesu |
| 12:41.23 | abyss | donofrio YES - that's what i need - thanks! :) |
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| 12:42.27 | meio | i'm running KDE 3.5 from svn and for some reason KMail has started putting my reply emails in my inbox instead of in sent-mail |
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| 12:44.19 | donofrio | can / show nupdate be able to feed its date time seconds though to hwclock? |
| 12:44.29 | donofrio | can /should I meant |
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| 12:44.58 | nsar | hi |
| 12:45.50 | PhilRod | meio: there's a setting in the identities page (advanced tab, i think) to change that |
| 12:45.55 | nsar | if i use gstreamer together with artsd is enough gstreamer or i need something else cause the configure of multimedia set is complaining about gstreamer i have version 1.8.10 |
| 12:46.49 | PhilRod | nsar: put the configure output on a pasteboard and we'll take a look |
| 12:47.01 | nsar | ok |
| 12:47.05 | nsar | let me rebuild it |
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| 12:48.04 | meio | PhilRod: the Sent-mail folders are all set to be the sent-mail folder |
| 12:48.13 | PhilRod | hrm |
| 12:48.30 | PhilRod | I think I saw some similar behaviour in my build - let me see |
| 12:49.40 | PhilRod | search the bugs database (bugs.kde.org) to see if it's been reported as a bug. If not, ask in #kontact whether anyone knows |
| 12:49.54 | Psyco | is there any program in kde to change the meaning of each key? |
| 12:49.58 | Psyco | I mean |
| 12:50.36 | Psyco | I want that pressing "L" I would be writting "K" for example |
| 12:50.46 | meio | PhilRod: thanks :) |
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| 12:55.33 | Aardwolf | Hey, I'm stuck in microban level 58, does anyone know how to solve it? |
| 12:57.03 | carsten | in what, Aardwolf ? |
| 12:57.08 | Aardwolf | KSokoban |
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| 12:57.23 | carsten | AH :) |
| 12:57.35 | carsten | Aardwolf, i gave up after like 10 levels :) |
| 12:57.39 | Aardwolf | hehe :) |
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| 12:57.58 | Aardwolf | But really, I tried *everything* and I jus can't figure it out :) |
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| 13:06.55 | pinotree | lauri: ping |
| 13:07.07 | lauri | yes? |
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| 13:08.24 | pinotree | i've got two errors compiling kdebase from today's 3.5 svn |
| 13:08.35 | pinotree | fresh compiling, no old install |
| 13:08.46 | carsten | yesterday it compiled |
| 13:08.51 | pinotree | :( |
| 13:08.55 | donofrio | anyone got a nubbe's url to hwclock and ntpdate and howto deal with utc in est? |
| 13:09.29 | pinotree | lauri: these are the errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PxEg6263.html http://rafb.net/paste/results/3GE3nB20.html |
| 13:09.36 | PhilRod | donofrio: it's probably slightly distro-specific - #yourdistro or www.yourdistro.(com|org) might be a good place to start |
| 13:10.04 | donofrio | ggeesh thanks....I run pclinuxos p91 - its a fork of mdk.... |
| 13:10.13 | donofrio | its standard kde 3.4 |
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| 13:11.06 | lippel | pinotree: set KDEDIRS and PATH to the kdelibs prefix you're compiling against |
| 13:11.26 | pinotree | lippel: i've passed --prefix |
| 13:11.27 | lippel | the docbook stuff needs special treatment here |
| 13:11.32 | lippel | that's not enough |
| 13:11.37 | lippel | for the docbook stuff |
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| 13:12.20 | pinotree | thanks |
| 13:12.20 | PhilRod | you might need to update kdelibs |
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| 13:12.26 | pinotree | already done... |
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| 13:12.54 | lippel | compilation works fine with just setting --prefix, but docbook tools still search the current PATH and/or KDEDIRS |
| 13:13.19 | pinotree | why? |
| 13:13.33 | lippel | don't ask me ;-) |
| 13:13.40 | lippel | i don't know |
| 13:13.49 | PhilRod | cos meinproc has to work after compile-time too |
| 13:14.37 | pinotree | but if i specify --prefix, i should tell that the whole suff is under prefix |
| 13:14.43 | pinotree | stuff* |
| 13:14.51 | pinotree | so, why search in other places? |
| 13:14.52 | PhilRod | pinotree: are those the only two docs that fail? |
| 13:14.59 | pinotree | amybe |
| 13:15.01 | pinotree | maybe* |
| 13:15.47 | pinotree | infact, the used meinproc is the right one |
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| 13:16.36 | pinotree | now all is fine, thanks |
| 13:17.10 | PhilRod | excellent :-) |
| 13:17.57 | pinotree | ... but imho this is a bug ;-) |
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| 13:27.21 | Egyptian[Home] | hello |
| 13:27.27 | Egyptian[Home] | k3b says my ¨reader¨ will write to cdrws only |
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| 13:33.22 | s1590 | how can I run more than one instance of kinfocenter? (SuSE 9.2 3.3) |
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| 13:38.55 | Jumpy | Hi, i have a problem with kdevevlop 3.2.0 code completion don't work only with libstdc++ 3.4, Have you same ideas? |
| 13:39.27 | pinotree | Jumpy: try asking in #kdevelop |
| 13:39.56 | Jumpy | i ask in kdevelop but noane answer me!! |
| 13:40.14 | pinotree | be patient, Jumpy |
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| 13:40.34 | Bo0mBy | hi all |
| 13:40.36 | Jumpy | ok pinotree |
| 13:41.17 | Bo0mBy | is there any solution to see the dvd,cd,disc label in konqueror ? |
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| 13:41.33 | Jumpy | tanks pinotree but i'm a new user of irc and i don't know how it run!! |
| 13:41.36 | pinotree | patient is a great virtue, my youth Jedi.. ehm... Jumpy |
| 13:41.44 | pinotree | ;) |
| 13:42.24 | pinotree | Bo0mBy: tried to write media:/ in the location bar? |
| 13:42.35 | s1590 | how can I run more than one instance of kinfocenter? (SuSE 9.2 3.3) |
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| 13:42.51 | pinotree | s1590: iirc, you can't |
| 13:42.59 | s1590 | o_O |
| 13:43.23 | Bo0mBy | yes i try, then i see the files on disc, but i cant see the volume name (label name) of the disc |
| 13:44.16 | pinotree | Bo0mBy: neither in the tooltip? |
| 13:44.57 | s1590 | pinotree: somehow mandriva splits kinfocenter up into its subcomponents so you can see several at once, which is all I want to do, except in SuSE |
| 13:45.35 | pinotree | mm.. what do you mean with "somehow mandriva splits kinfocenter up into its subcomponents" ? |
| 13:45.53 | pinotree | when you run the infocenter, do you get? |
| 13:46.40 | s1590 | the Mandriva menu doesn't have kinfocenter in it. Instead it has all the items that kinfocenter shows, like PCI, X Server, Memory, etc |
| 13:47.11 | s1590 | to run kinfocenter in Mandriva requires you start it from run command or konsole or the like |
| 13:47.21 | pinotree | s1590: are you able to run kinfocenter in a shell? |
| 13:47.27 | s1590 | yes |
| 13:47.29 | pinotree | ah, ok |
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| 13:51.51 | ram6 | Hi. What's the actuall difference when using sftp://host and fish://host URLs? |
| 13:52.11 | StarScream | ram6: probably nothing |
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| 13:52.17 | pinotree | !!!! |
| 13:52.22 | pinotree | sftp = secure ftp |
| 13:52.28 | pinotree | fish = shh |
| 13:52.30 | pinotree | ssh* |
| 13:52.34 | StarScream | ahh |
| 13:52.39 | pinotree | they're quite different |
| 13:52.40 | StarScream | didn't know that |
| 13:52.56 | StarScream | thats handy.. |
| 13:53.13 | pinotree | an sftp session is an ftp session, but secured |
| 13:53.25 | pinotree | a fish session, is a ssh session |
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| 13:53.51 | StarScream | pinotree: can you do sftp with proftpd or vsftpd do you know? |
| 13:53.53 | jono | hi |
| 13:54.05 | PhilRod | hi johnyb |
| 13:54.10 | PhilRod | erm, hi jono |
| 13:54.13 | pinotree | hello jono |
| 13:54.14 | jono | :) |
| 13:54.14 | StarScream | hey jono |
| 13:54.16 | jono | hi PhilRod |
| 13:54.20 | jono | hey StarScream |
| 13:54.28 | ram6 | StarScream: thanks for pointing that out |
| 13:54.29 | pinotree | StarScream: with == connect to? |
| 13:54.42 | jono | hi pinotree |
| 13:55.24 | StarScream | ram6: i didn't point it out... |
| 13:55.40 | StarScream | ram6: pinotree did |
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| 13:56.28 | StarScream | pinotree: yeh, can i use proftpd to to host i guess, the sftp session. as proftpd is more configurable..i.e ldap or mysql backedn |
| 13:56.41 | StarScream | i have ftps enabled atm |
| 13:56.46 | StarScream | but i'd prefer sftp |
| 13:57.08 | pinotree | StarScream: don't know, maybe not |
| 13:57.32 | StarScream | pinotree: k, just thought i'd ask as you seemed knowledgable :) |
| 13:57.34 | pinotree | it's another implementation, it doesn't use any other ftp client (IIRC) |
| 13:59.04 | pinotree | (in the menwhile, if someone thinks that i'm doing wrong things, he's gladly invited to kill me) |
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| 14:05.29 | StarScream | pinotree: what do you mean "If someone think that i'm doing wrong things" ? |
| 14:06.29 | StarScream | jono: do you have to have special software to recieve "podcasts" with the iriver? |
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| 14:07.27 | jono | StarScream, not sure, I dont use it for podcasting |
| 14:07.51 | pinotree | StarScream: erm, not "doing", but "saying" |
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| 14:09.36 | mobtek | haha lauri at kde mailing list email :) |
| 14:09.50 | lauri | heh, I'm surprised he didn't answer me yet |
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| 14:18.38 | Alfo | hi all .. |
| 14:18.54 | Alfo | i've some problem with update of kde 3.4 on gentoo |
| 14:18.57 | Alfo | someone can help me ? |
| 14:19.20 | Marrs | perhaps, what's wrong? |
| 14:19.42 | Alfo | i've update with emerge -vup world |
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| 14:19.55 | Alfo | then when i wrote startx |
| 14:20.10 | Alfo | always appears 3.3.2 old kde |
| 14:20.18 | gaim-user | hi i installed gaim how can i create a desktop now, i am on freebsd usin kde... |
| 14:20.23 | Alfo | even if i've modified rc.conf |
| 14:20.40 | Marrs | and do you use kdm to login? |
| 14:20.55 | gaim-user | are u speakin to me |
| 14:21.02 | Marrs | no, to Alfo |
| 14:21.14 | Alfo | no .. |
| 14:21.15 | gaim-user | k |
| 14:21.21 | Alfo | console login and then startx |
| 14:21.29 | gaim-user | hi i installed gaim how can i create a desktop now, i am on freebsd usin kde... |
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| 14:21.52 | PieD | gaim-user: ? |
| 14:21.53 | Marrs | Alfo: I'm not sure, but probably the startx script has somewhere recorded to use that specific KDE version |
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| 14:22.08 | PieD | what do you mean by "create a desktop" ? |
| 14:22.16 | PieD | add a virtual desktop ? |
| 14:22.26 | Alfo | Marrs, the script takes the information on rc.conf |
| 14:22.27 | gaim-user | to use an icon so i dont have to run console and run gaim from there |
| 14:22.37 | Alfo | where i've selected the new version of kde |
| 14:22.42 | PieD | (why do you use gaim and not kopete) |
| 14:22.42 | Alfo | but it doesn't work |
| 14:22.44 | gaim-user | just to have an icon on desktop so i just click there |
| 14:22.53 | gaim-user | and gaim opens |
| 14:23.13 | PieD | right click on the desktop => New => Link to an application (not sure : it's translated back from the french version of KDE) |
| 14:23.15 | Marrs | Alfo, you know this howto? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml |
| 14:23.21 | PieD | gaim-user: but why don't you use Kopete ? |
| 14:23.30 | PieD | does gaim do something Kopete doesn't ? |
| 14:23.38 | gaim-user | what is kopete |
| 14:23.46 | apokryphos | gaim-user: the KDE Instant Messenger Client |
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| 14:23.56 | PieD | apokryphos: grrr, you were faster than me :p |
| 14:24.04 | Alfo | Marrs, yes... |
| 14:24.10 | ahchai | hello |
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| 14:24.16 | Marrs | hmm... |
| 14:24.41 | Marrs | next step would be to search the gentoo forums (at least that's what I would try in your place) |
| 14:24.50 | apokryphos | PieD: /cmd whatis kopete would have beaten us both, likely ;-) |
| 14:25.05 | PieD | kopete (1) - A KDE-based Instant Messaging client. |
| 14:25.09 | PieD | yes... |
| 14:25.16 | ahchai | anyone know how to update kopete? |
| 14:25.20 | PieD | how is it done ? |
| 14:25.37 | PieD | ahchai: which distribution do you use ? |
| 14:25.48 | ahchai | distribution? |
| 14:26.08 | ahchai | fedora 4 |
| 14:26.40 | gaim-user | to use an icon so i dont have to run console and run gaim from there |
| 14:26.45 | PieD | you've to find uptodate packages for kdenetwork |
| 14:26.47 | gaim-user | how i do this |
| 14:26.50 | PieD | gaim-user: I told you ! |
| 14:26.55 | PieD | [16:23:25] <PieD> right click on the desktop => New => Link to an application (not sure : it's translated back from the french version of KDE) |
| 14:27.09 | gaim-user | new it shows folder |
| 14:27.29 | PieD | there must be something else in the new menu |
| 14:27.57 | gaim-user | yes lots of things |
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| 14:27.59 | gaim-user | where is gaim |
| 14:28.14 | PieD | select "Link to an application" !! |
| 14:28.18 | ahchai | gaim-user, yea, use create new>link to application |
| 14:28.58 | gaim-user | gaim: /usr/X11R6/bin/gaim /usr/X11R6/man/man1/gaim.1.gz /usr/ports/japanese/gaim |
| 14:29.03 | ahchai | PieD, err..i can't found the rpm file for kopete at kopete.kde.org |
| 14:29.06 | gaim-user | i di where is gaim |
| 14:29.18 | gaim-user | now do i paste all this on link application |
| 14:29.24 | PieD | ahchai: it's fedora job to create their own packages |
| 14:29.58 | apokryphos | ahchai: pretty sure fedora has the latest stable kopete |
| 14:30.02 | gaim-user | hello |
| 14:30.18 | ahchai | okie, i try to search in fodera, 10z PieD , apokryphos :) |
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| 14:31.12 | gaim-user | heelloo |
| 14:31.20 | gaim-user | how to do that i click new folder |
| 14:31.24 | PieD | we told you HOW TO DO ! |
| 14:31.26 | gaim-user | then it opens a new folder |
| 14:31.39 | apokryphos | :| |
| 14:31.42 | PieD | read what's written |
| 14:32.06 | PieD | (I don't understand why you're using freebsd...) |
| 14:32.29 | gaim-user | ok what is the link to application /usr/X11R6/bin/gaim /usr/X11R6/man/man1/gaim.1.gz |
| 14:32.33 | gaim-user | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.59 | gaim-user | what is the link to application in here /usr/X11R6/bin/gaim |
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| 14:33.17 | gaim-user | hello |
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| 14:34.50 | gaim-user | what happened |
| 14:34.55 | gaim-user | where is everybody |
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| 14:36.01 | gaim-user | fy fan |
| 14:36.04 | gaim-user | waryyya |
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| 14:37.18 | gaim-user | why i don\t see nobdoy online |
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| 14:37.24 | gaim-user | kdeee |
| 14:37.27 | gaim-user | startkdeee |
| 14:37.33 | gaim-user | startx |
| 14:37.48 | PieD | gaim-user: because you're using a stupid IRC client ? |
| 14:38.15 | gaim-user | ohh i see you are online i don\t ssee your yellow nick |
| 14:38.20 | gaim-user | are you fag |
| 14:38.32 | gaim-user | chicken |
| 14:39.10 | PieD | is there any channel admin here ? |
| 14:39.24 | gaim-user | now i see you online |
| 14:39.31 | HilBilly | we could use a couple |
| 14:39.35 | PieD | I think that this thing named gaim-user did more than what's necessary to be ... |
| 14:39.37 | PieD | kicked |
| 14:39.48 | gaim-user | you dont need to call admins to help me out to create a desktop |
| 14:39.56 | HilBilly | I thought that FreeNode was lamer free |
| 14:39.58 | gaim-user | i will try in my own |
| 14:40.08 | HilBilly | just when I thought it was safe to irc again |
| 14:40.09 | PieD | HilBilly: it's not loser-free |
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| 14:40.42 | gaim-user | pieddy why are you so fast i just installed freebsd today i am newbie on desktop |
| 14:40.47 | gaim-user | so dont rush |
| 14:40.58 | ahcha1 | i just install my fedora too |
| 14:40.59 | PieD | gaim-user: then WHY do you use FreeBSD ? |
| 14:41.01 | gaim-user | you allso have been a begginer |
| 14:41.07 | PieD | FreeBSD isn't for newbies |
| 14:41.24 | PieD | when I began, I opened my eyes and readed what's written on the screen |
| 14:41.34 | StevenR-work | PieD, why not? |
| 14:41.35 | PieD | but it looks like this isn't done by beginners any longer |
| 14:41.39 | gaim-user | every os is for newbigginers |
| 14:41.55 | PieD | StevenR-work: I always read that FreeBSD isn't for such noobs |
| 14:42.14 | gaim-user | now i did what you said click new desktop link to application |
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| 14:42.24 | gaim-user | /usr/X11R6/bin/gaim is this the link |
| 14:42.33 | ahcha1 | wat is the different between motif and gtk?? i wan to install azerues, but which one should i download? i am using fedora 4 |
| 14:42.34 | gaim-user | i did but i get error |
| 14:42.51 | PieD | if he has problems to add a link to the desktop because he doesn't read what's on the window shown, I can't imagine him installing a FreeBSD |
| 14:43.03 | PieD | ahcha1: motif and gtk are two toolkits |
| 14:43.09 | PieD | with their own themes |
| 14:43.10 | EasterSunshine | acah1: gtk, motif is uglier |
| 14:43.31 | gaim-user | but what is the link to application /usr/X11R6/bin/gaim is it this |
| 14:43.32 | EasterSunshine | and thats obviously all that matters |
| 14:44.16 | gaim-user | never mind |
| 14:44.19 | gaim-user | i managed |
| 14:44.23 | gaim-user | bye and thanx |
| 14:44.26 | gaim-user | piedffy |
| 14:45.30 | EasterSunshine | man she was hyper or something |
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| 14:46.00 | PieD | EasterSunshine: perhaps... |
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| 14:47.22 | pinotree | EasterSunshine: gaim-user ws a she? |
| 14:47.25 | pinotree | was* |
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| 14:47.37 | EasterSunshine | look at how she talks: "kdeee" |
| 14:47.37 | PieD | pinotree: maybe... who knows ? |
| 14:47.56 | pinotree | well, know i understand.. :D |
| 14:48.19 | RichiH | is there a way to force four terminals into one konsole so i can see all of them at once? think four terminals, in upper left, right & lower left, right |
| 14:48.20 | PieD | EasterSunshine: are you a bit sexist ? |
| 14:48.31 | EasterSunshine | maybe i am unwillingly |
| 14:48.33 | RichiH | the advantage over four terminals would be that they act as one window |
| 14:48.42 | EasterSunshine | if i am like offending you right now, i'll shut up |
| 14:48.50 | pinotree | (joking, of course - don't take that too seriously...) |
| 14:49.16 | StevenR-work | ananke, ping |
| 14:49.55 | EasterSunshine | i have the urge to say, "she must have been pretty cause she was dumb" but...i don't like being sexist |
| 14:50.26 | StevenR-work | RichiH, there's an app on kde-apps.org that uses konsolepart to do that i think |
| 14:51.29 | RichiH | StevenR-work: any idea what it could be named? |
| 14:51.35 | RichiH | or under what section it would be |
| 14:51.57 | Bo0mBy | i didnt find the disc label in konqueror.Anybody knows where is? |
| 14:55.13 | donofrio | any thoughts on utc vs rtc? - http://tinyurl.com/e2y5s |
| 14:56.34 | StevenR-work | RichiH, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22482 |
| 14:57.45 | RichiH | StevenR-work: ok, this looks great! |
| 15:00.45 | EasterSunshine | hey is there a command, o a shortcut key, i can throw into konsole to open a new tab in the current konsole window? |
| 15:01.01 | EasterSunshine | nvm, found it |
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| 15:09.49 | donofrio | any thoughts on utc vs rtc? - http://tinyurl.com/e2y5s need time logic howto??? who do I talk to about what is correct or incorrect about my setup |
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| 15:11.01 | sam^ | hi, i want to connect to another PC with krdc, but it doesn't find any server running there |
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| 15:14.37 | HilBilly | is there a server running there? |
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| 15:18.22 | Bo0mBy | dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=1 skip=32808 count=32 |
| 15:18.34 | Bo0mBy | dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=1 skip=32808 count=32 in console, but in kde ? |
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| 15:21.42 | [raphael] | sam^: do you actually run a server on the remote machine? |
| 15:21.53 | sam^ | yes, there was a server |
| 15:21.54 | sam^ | running |
| 15:22.03 | [raphael] | which one? |
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| 15:22.15 | sam^ | the one included in this ubuntu linux |
| 15:22.29 | [raphael] | sam^: the best way to ... ubuntu linux, does it actually have KDE? |
| 15:22.51 | sam^ | well, the vnc isn't there anymore, now he decided to install the whole system again ;-) |
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| 15:23.07 | sam^ | no, it doesn't include kde, but I'm running KDE under SUSE 9.3 |
| 15:23.18 | [raphael] | the best way to do a VNC connection is to create an invitation with krfb, then connect from the other machine with krdc |
| 15:23.37 | [raphael] | that's what I know that works at least |
| 15:24.12 | [raphael] | sam^: if you have krfb available on the ubuntu machine, please use it |
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| 15:24.29 | [raphael] | otherwise make sure that the VNC server is really a VNC server and behaving .. correctly, whatver ;) |
| 15:25.09 | [raphael] | Bo0mBy: what do you actually want to copy? You didn't specifiy of= |
| 15:25.35 | [raphael] | Bo0mBy: in KDE I would basically use K3B for anything related to cd/dvd burning |
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| 15:28.18 | donofrio | how do I get the correct timezone to be displayed without adding a timezone and having it overwrite the date with "Detriot?" |
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| 15:35.44 | pinotree | salve Thedoktor |
| 15:35.51 | Thedoktor | hi pino |
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| 15:37.10 | A[D]minS | can i make kde looks 3D ? |
| 15:37.52 | pinotree | if you find any proper theme... |
| 15:38.30 | donofrio | how do I get the correct timezone to be displayed without adding a timezone and having it overwrite the date with "Detriot?" |
| 15:38.43 | A[D]minS | pinotree: where i can find ? kde-look? |
| 15:38.49 | pinotree | donofrio: in the clock applet? |
| 15:38.58 | pinotree | A[D]minS: yes, mostly |
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| 15:40.04 | Thedoktor | anyone uses a scanner with linux? |
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| 15:40.50 | [raphael] | donofrio: you can choose the timezone to display when you right click the clock |
| 15:41.07 | [raphael] | you will most likely want local timezone |
| 15:41.26 | [raphael] | donofrio: so maybe you accidentally switched to another timezone |
| 15:41.36 | donofrio | how? |
| 15:41.53 | [raphael] | right click the clock, then choose time zone -> local time zone |
| 15:42.35 | [raphael] | Thedoktor: you might want to look at http://www.sane-project.org |
| 15:42.53 | Thedoktor | need to buy one |
| 15:43.00 | Thedoktor | so i'd like to hear some idea |
| 15:43.08 | [raphael] | Thedoktor: oh.. I see |
| 15:43.10 | Thedoktor | my old trust worked fine with sane |
| 15:43.49 | [raphael] | Thedoktor: the list of scanners: make SURE the backend fully supports the device you want to buy |
| 15:44.23 | [raphael] | and if possible without any 3rd party binary-only backend (like mine - it's lying around for half a year now because it has a linux-binary-only driver and I'm running BSD) |
| 15:46.18 | [raphael] | A[D]minS: http://www.kde-look.org |
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| 15:54.17 | Quinn_Storm | question...does anyone know anything about k3b crashing and taking KDE/X down with it any time it succesfully completes burning a CD? |
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| 15:56.54 | pinotree | hello sredna, how's going? |
| 15:57.36 | sredna | Uhm, after I dropped restoring the session, kwin does not crash when I start kde, which is an advantage |
| 15:57.57 | sredna | And I strongly consider dropping gentoo (in favor of slackware) |
| 15:58.04 | sredna | How are you? |
| 16:01.09 | pinotree | fine, thansk |
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| 16:02.11 | miklos | Where is Pakos? |
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| 16:15.19 | kkrizka | what is the best forums to ask question about programming with kde? |
| 16:15.35 | pinotree | #kde-devel |
| 16:16.13 | kkrizka | is there a forum though? |
| 16:16.19 | kkrizka | I found kde-forum.org |
| 16:16.26 | kkrizka | but that only seems to be on usability |
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| 16:20.09 | physos | kkrizka: Just because people in a forum rave about usabillity all the time does not mean a forum is intended this way. :) |
| 16:20.29 | physos | kkrizka: there is a kde-devel maillist which is meant for development questions. |
| 16:20.34 | kkrizka | lol, I mean the forum topics |
| 16:20.37 | kkrizka | ok, I;ll try it |
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| 16:24.34 | mha | I use to have Knemo running in KDE tray, does anybody if FC4 version is availabe ? |
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| 16:31.36 | elvstone | hrm. i've installed the vimpart component, but i can't find out how to make kdevelop (3.2.2) use it as an editor? (i think i'm going to try out yzis SVN too). |
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| 16:36.05 | donofrio | ok anyone time/kde experts? |
| 16:36.06 | donofrio | my brain hurt |
| 16:36.06 | donofrio | how do I get est to be displayed as homezone correctly |
| 16:36.06 | donofrio | http://tinyurl.com/a6ncv - correct correct time but overwriting date |
| 16:36.06 | donofrio | http://tinyurl.com/8hwwp - correct but not for est |
| 16:36.33 | elvstone | (ah sorry i found it in kcontrol).. |
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| 16:37.27 | luminerd | How do you mount a cd? and further, how can you set it up to automatically mount and open explorer to the cd? |
| 16:37.39 | luminerd | Rather, the mounting is distro-specific, sorry |
| 16:37.45 | luminerd | But about the automounting? |
| 16:40.03 | elvstone | hm. i've configured the embedded vim component in kcontrol, and set it as my preferred embedded editor.. kdevelop is also set to using the embedded editor. but it's still using the kdevelop editor, not the vim one. anyone had this problem? |
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| 16:41.49 | woohoo | hello everybody |
| 16:42.03 | woohoo | I got strange thing using kde |
| 16:46.17 | woohoo | on one of my accounts kde loads and the bottom beam (where the icons and tray is - I dont how it is named) is sized on the whole screen . |
| 16:47.15 | sredna | woohoo: Kicker, the panel |
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| 16:47.25 | woohoo | there is no desktop but only this huge beam sized over the whole screen |
| 16:47.27 | sredna | woohoo: Rightclick it, and find the configuration dialog |
| 16:47.31 | kaylee | where does kmail store sub directories? |
| 16:47.48 | spiral | kaylee: do ls -a in your Mail folder, you'll understand |
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| 16:48.11 | kaylee | spiral: I have...that's why I'm worried |
| 16:48.30 | spiral | kaylee: on my computer, for example, let's say I've got a folder foo... |
| 16:48.38 | spiral | the subfolders in it are in .foo.directory |
| 16:48.54 | kaylee | in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail it only shows messages that are in inbox (not including subfolders), trash and drafts |
| 16:49.29 | spiral | kaylee: don't you have a ~/Mail or ~/.Mail ? |
| 16:49.38 | spiral | I do... & all my mails are stored there |
| 16:49.40 | kaylee | no |
| 16:49.43 | woohoo | brb |
| 16:49.56 | spiral | kaylee: what distro ? |
| 16:50.14 | kaylee | spiral: under Mandrake I did, but it didn't have the subfolders (which I didn't know before, and now I've lost most messages for almost 2 months) |
| 16:50.14 | kaylee | gentoo |
| 16:50.16 | kaylee | now |
| 16:50.39 | spiral | kaylee: I don't know where they store the mails under gentoo... |
| 16:51.16 | spiral | kaylee: maybe you should try with find ? find ~ -type d -iname \*SubfolderName\* ? |
| 16:51.51 | spiral | kaylee: you could also use locate, 'f course |
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| 16:55.06 | monster | sredna: Thanks for help |
| 16:55.24 | monster | I was <woohoo> :) |
| 16:55.57 | monster | I think there is some kind of error in gdm |
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| 16:58.59 | monster | When I change screen resolution using KDE Control Center gdm has strange behaviour ; I mean it looks like some part of desktop cannot fit on the screen |
| 16:59.27 | monster | when I logout and try to login again this thing has happeng |
| 16:59.40 | monster | and it is still |
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| 16:59.45 | monster | happend* |
| 17:00.28 | donofrio | ok anyone time/kde experts? |
| 17:00.28 | donofrio | my brain hurt |
| 17:00.29 | donofrio | how do I get est to be displayed as homezone correctly |
| 17:00.29 | donofrio | http://tinyurl.com/a6ncv - correct correct time but overwriting date |
| 17:00.29 | donofrio | http://tinyurl.com/8hwwp - correct but not for est |
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| 17:01.36 | monster | I set "Apply settings on KDE startup" in section Display in KDE Control Center KDE runs normally but gdm still cannot fit in the monitor |
| 17:01.52 | monster | Does anybody know what I'm talking about? |
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| 17:02.34 | kaylee | donofrio: what distro? |
| 17:02.38 | donofrio | kde 3.4 |
| 17:02.44 | kaylee | I ws just dealing with this last night |
| 17:02.46 | monster | debian unstable sarge |
| 17:02.57 | donofrio | (pclinuxos - but its a kde issue is it not) |
| 17:03.04 | donofrio | reallly |
| 17:03.17 | donofrio | kaylee - how'd ya fix it (or yourself) |
| 17:03.28 | kaylee | donofrio: well, if pclinuxos is like gentoo, the os itself handles the timezone |
| 17:03.42 | donofrio | ok so I gotta edit what file? |
| 17:03.59 | kaylee | donofrio: first, you'll need to determine if your system clock is set to GMT (which is the recommended) |
| 17:04.15 | donofrio | what command?? |
| 17:04.30 | kaylee | donofrio: then you'll need to check the docs for your distro to see if they have instructions on setting timezone |
| 17:04.47 | kaylee | donofrio: not 100% sure, I checked mine in the bios (which is the easiest place to set the time) |
| 17:05.20 | donofrio | my hwclock --show says: |
| 17:05.23 | donofrio | [root@localhost root]# hwclock --show |
| 17:05.23 | donofrio | Wed 10 Aug 2005 05:05:06 PM UTC -0.816764 seconds |
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| 17:06.11 | donofrio | and thats correct for UTC but I live in EST and when I set the kde applet for timezone it 'feels like a visiting' that timezone insted of living thire hence my schreenshots |
| 17:06.16 | kaylee | ok, so if your distro doesn't have something to configure the timezone, then you should configure kde to do it |
| 17:07.02 | kaylee | in kcontrol under System Administration there's Date & Time...you should be able to change your timezone there |
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| 17:07.24 | kaylee | though, generally my experience is that's the pain in the butt way to do it |
| 17:07.34 | kaylee | definitely go for the os timezone first |
| 17:07.35 | donofrio | my os has in /etc/timezone = "America/Detriot" |
| 17:08.09 | kaylee | donofrio: it's possible you'll need to restart kde to get it to accept the changes (if you made changes while in kde) |
| 17:08.22 | kaylee | does date show the correct timezone/time? |
| 17:08.31 | donofrio | yes.... |
| 17:08.52 | PieD | simple question : how would we be able to help people if there is a KDE for windows release ? |
| 17:08.59 | kaylee | did you make changes while running kde? |
| 17:09.32 | kaylee | PieD: how would that be possible? Is windows changing to allow different window managers? |
| 17:09.58 | PieD | kaylee: that's already possible, look at litestep for instance |
| 17:10.01 | donofrio | yes and they get instantly reflexted by kde...ie if I run ntpdate --update my screen will blank (scary at first) and then return with correct time displayed |
| 17:10.09 | kaylee | PieD: cool |
| 17:10.19 | kaylee | PieD: never really looked into any of that...I don't use windows |
| 17:10.38 | PieD | it looks like people are going to waste their time on porting KDE to a platform on which nobody will use KDE... |
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| 17:11.50 | donofrio | kaylee - how did you 'solve' your issue last night? |
| 17:12.03 | kaylee | PieD: I suppose it's possible someone REALLY needs to use windows (for some software or games or something) but don't like the windows interface |
| 17:12.05 | kaylee | *shrug* |
| 17:12.36 | kaylee | donofrio: my problem was more that the system clock was set wrong, then somehow I lost the timezone config for the os |
| 17:12.58 | kaylee | donofrio: all I had to do is set up /etc/timezone and restart kde |
| 17:13.15 | kaylee | donofrio: you might be able to find additional help in a # for the distro |
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| 17:14.59 | monster | what sesion managers are you people use? |
| 17:15.11 | jcesaro | :|? |
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| 17:15.28 | monster | I mean using gdm is ok? |
| 17:15.34 | jcesaro | kdm |
| 17:15.50 | Sembiance | Hi folks, I'm trying to make my website compatible with Konqueror, and I'm in Konqueror now, but I can't seem to find a 'javascript status |
| 17:15.59 | Sembiance | window anywhere, to see javascript errors :) |
| 17:16.04 | Sembiance | sorry, accidently hit enter |
| 17:16.10 | jcesaro | im using debian sid, it came with default gdm but i like kdm instead |
| 17:16.12 | monster | beacause I have problem with gdm |
| 17:16.45 | jcesaro | :o |
| 17:16.49 | jcesaro | what distro |
| 17:17.01 | monster | debian |
| 17:17.14 | monster | but unstable - is it sid or sarge? |
| 17:17.20 | jcesaro | sid |
| 17:17.27 | monster | sid then :) |
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| 17:17.36 | jcesaro | u must be using knoppix |
| 17:17.37 | jcesaro | xD |
| 17:17.48 | monster | no |
| 17:17.49 | jcesaro | and u dont know |
| 17:17.49 | jcesaro | it |
| 17:17.52 | jcesaro | ahh |
| 17:18.03 | monster | of course not |
| 17:18.09 | jcesaro | :P |
| 17:18.24 | Sembiance | found it :) |
| 17:18.35 | monster | nevermind everything that is in gdm cannot fit on the display |
| 17:19.02 | monster | I downloaded from debian.org first iso |
| 17:19.04 | jcesaro | startx |
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| 17:19.26 | jcesaro | startxfce |
| 17:19.37 | uludag | hello |
| 17:19.43 | jcesaro | hell0 |
| 17:19.51 | monster | hell O: |
| 17:20.48 | monster | well I have startkde :) but no startxfce |
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| 17:20.59 | monster | and startx of course |
| 17:21.40 | monster | jcesaro: there is no such deb startxfce |
| 17:21.50 | jcesaro | l0l |
| 17:22.09 | jcesaro | if u cant make it thru kde from gdm, install xfce |
| 17:22.21 | jcesaro | to configure kdm |
| 17:22.38 | jcesaro | of course if u cant turn on x |
| 17:22.39 | monster | ok :| |
| 17:22.53 | Sembiance | Trying to make my website (http://csourcesearch.net) work with Konq. If I make it work with Konq (javascript problems need fixed) will it work with Safari too? |
| 17:25.22 | monster | <Sembiance> : I'm trying it with Konqueror it stayed on Searching... |
| 17:26.17 | ataxic | Function Name gplugin_say_boo_func |
| 17:26.23 | ataxic | did search on boo |
| 17:26.28 | ataxic | hehe |
| 17:26.33 | monster | <jcesaro> : Thanks for your help :) |
| 17:26.40 | ataxic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.46 | jcesaro | k |
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| 17:27.22 | monster | <Sembiance>: still searching... |
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| 17:28.02 | monster | <Sembiance>I searched "pipe" in includes |
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| 17:34.30 | Sembiance | monster: I think there is something wrong with the cloneNode function under Konq, it returns null in konq but returns a valid document under mozilla. I'm looking into it :) |
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| 17:43.41 | wurd | hi, i'd like to know how menus work in order to be able to create "menu profiles" or "menu configurations" that i would copy onto other systems so every system has the exact same menu, no matter what apps are installed on each |
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| 17:51.29 | Sembiance | Okay, I fixed the XML loading under Konq, but it appears Konq does not support XSLTProcessor |
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| 18:01.00 | ma3x | I get segmentation fault when I run kde |
| 18:01.26 | ma3x | i mean no no |
| 18:01.28 | ma3x | when i run kmail |
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| 18:02.52 | ma3x | hey help out here! |
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| 18:04.47 | EasterSunshine | ma3x: get new version maybe? |
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| 18:05.01 | sredna | ma3x: Look at the output, and create a backtrace, and file a bug report |
| 18:05.17 | ma3x | EasterSunshine, I am already using unstable |
| 18:05.24 | ma3x | there is no newer version I think |
| 18:05.31 | sredna | So, rebuild |
| 18:05.31 | EasterSunshine | ma3x, ok older version then... |
| 18:05.37 | sredna | Unstable == occational crashing |
| 18:05.43 | EasterSunshine | "unstable" means its imperfect |
| 18:05.49 | EasterSunshine | in developement stages |
| 18:06.43 | ma3x | I know what unstabel is |
| 18:07.05 | ma3x | what if i file a bug report |
| 18:07.12 | ma3x | there are already so many filed |
| 18:07.30 | sredna | Well, a backtrace would probably be required |
| 18:07.41 | EasterSunshine | the developers can benefit from bug reports, they know how to go thru them are eliminated redundant ones |
| 18:07.55 | sredna | And even if there are many bug reports, they are read and used - and appreciated - by developers |
| 18:07.56 | useruser | any experts in konqueror javascript here? I want to know how to detect when an image has completed loading. this works in ie and mozilla but not konq (or opera): http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/posts/show/89 |
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| 18:13.09 | marcus__ | how to reconfigure network (ubuntu) |
| 18:15.21 | sredna | marcus__: Ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 18:15.42 | grepper | marcus__: man interfaces |
| 18:15.58 | sredna | useruser: You could loop the properties of the Image object to see what is there |
| 18:18.03 | luminerd | What directory should I put my KDE icon theme into? |
| 18:22.50 | luminerd | and this is why I hate KDE... |
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| 18:35.52 | crispynix-v6 | luminerd: erm, is there a problem with using the 'kcmshell icons' installer? The dir you're looking for is ~/.kde/share/icons |
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| 18:37.16 | useruser | yes, but which properties? |
| 18:37.38 | luminerd | crispynix-v6, thanks, but I'm not sure what kcmshell is |
| 18:38.01 | crispynix-v6 | luminerd: launches kde control center modules from the command line |
| 18:38.19 | crispynix-v6 | luminerd: you could also do preferences -> appearance & thimes -> icons or navigate to that in kcontrol |
| 18:38.33 | luminerd | yea I got it figured, thanks |
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| 19:00.42 | parph | can anyone help me out with the kde weather applet. I add my city weather station, and I even see the correct weather in the configure dialog box, but on the taskbar all I see is "?" and an error "requested station does not exist" anyone know whats wrong? |
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| 19:05.12 | raf256 | zup |
| 19:05.39 | raf256 | can I cause the tasks list (alt+tab) to order and group windows by desktop on with they are? |
| 19:05.53 | crispynix-v6 | luminerd: oops, you might want to install pmount too (hal doesn't depend on it, but it should) |
| 19:06.15 | crispynix-v6 | wrong chan |
| 19:10.19 | raf256 | hmm how can I upgrade kde to gnome? |
| 19:10.48 | crispynix-v6 | you mean switch to gnome? I wouldn't call it an upgrade. |
| 19:10.53 | crispynix-v6 | what dist? |
| 19:12.28 | crispynix-v6 | raf256: btw wrt to your first question, right click the taskbar handle -> configure taskbar -> sort windows by desktop |
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| 19:13.14 | czheng | anyone know why Akregator might not be displaying certain accented characters? i use them all the time in other programs with no problem. |
| 19:13.37 | lippel | czheng: example feed? |
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| 19:13.53 | lippel | czheng: most of the time its encoding problems with the feeds |
| 19:14.27 | raf256 | no, KDE is fine.. not a deamon of speed... but I like it meany futures |
| 19:14.34 | czheng | i see... here's a feed: http://www.narconews.com/narcosphere.xml |
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| 19:14.42 | luminerd | crispynix-v6, pmount comes with kubuntu |
| 19:14.43 | luminerd | thanks though |
| 19:14.56 | ma3x | when is kde 4 coming out? |
| 19:14.57 | czheng | you're right i guess it's a feed problem |
| 19:15.02 | ma3x | i a mawaiting for that kmail fix |
| 19:15.10 | ma3x | when i launch kmail it says segmentation fault |
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| 19:15.21 | ma3x | so i must start it via openoffice kontact |
| 19:16.30 | lippel | czheng: what sort of characters are supposed to show up there? |
| 19:17.35 | lippel | czheng: e+'? |
| 19:17.37 | luminerd | How do I change the image of the K-Menu? |
| 19:17.41 | czheng | there's a box where there should be a -ué or a -óp or a -'av |
| 19:18.10 | czheng | it's wierd because it's eating the other letter too |
| 19:18.11 | lippel | czheng: ah, so simple vowel+accent that my fonts should support |
| 19:18.16 | czheng | ya |
| 19:18.39 | czheng | but now that i look, it does work in some feeds i think |
| 19:18.41 | lippel | czheng: than it's a feed problem i think, kwrite doesnt display them properly in utf8 mode |
| 19:18.51 | czheng | ok. thanks |
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| 19:20.47 | ryanoe | Anyone know of the virus that disables Norton Antivirus? |
| 19:20.59 | Subsonix | hi, how can i minimize all windows and show the desktop with a command line (like CTRL+ALT+D does)? |
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| 19:23.08 | luminerd | ryanoe, linux is gay, it won't even run my viruses. |
| 19:24.30 | Subsonix | do yo run KDE on windows? |
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| 19:32.28 | luminerd | Subsonix, I was kidding lol |
| 19:33.10 | luminerd | how do I install a new window decorations theme? |
| 19:33.16 | luminerd | I recieved a .deb file |
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| 19:34.02 | luminerd | or do I want to get the tar.bz2? |
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| 19:41.12 | leeghoofd_ | hello, I have a problem with accesing root permissions in the control center, if I click the button for root mode and type the root pwd it says: 'the program su isn't found, check you $PATH' I checked my path with echo and it is ok, also in the console I can type su too, do you knwo what this means? |
| 19:41.38 | leeghoofd_ | btw, I have kde--2.4.1 and use archlinux |
| 19:41.46 | leeghoofd_ | 3.4.1 I mean.. |
| 19:44.21 | leeghoofd_ | maybe related to this problem is that I cannot start a terminal in x, the console works fine but in x konsole, xterm, aterm and eterm all don't work |
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| 19:47.48 | leeghoofd_ | mm, seems to be a rare problem ;) I hope I'm not spamming this channel but I have some more info.. the problems started after my disk had been entirely full and my computer crashed so maybe some config file is messed up? it only happens for this user, do you know which config files are related to PATH so I can check them? |
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| 19:49.30 | monster | <leeghoofd_>: you mean in su is in your $PATH ? |
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| 19:50.00 | leeghoofd_ | monster, no, the directory where su is in is in my $PATH (/bin) |
| 19:50.19 | piggz | argh, the worst thing has happened (well, maybe not THE worst)....i got home from work to find my root hd fried :( |
| 19:50.55 | monster | I meant this :) |
| 19:51.06 | leeghoofd_ | monster, ok ;) |
| 19:51.38 | leeghoofd_ | but I can only check my PATH in the console, is it possible that my path is different in console than in x? |
| 19:52.30 | monster | rather not |
| 19:52.52 | monster | PATH is set in bashrc as far as I know |
| 19:53.14 | monster | what error can you see when you start konsole? |
| 19:55.16 | leeghoofd_ | It looks really strange when I start konsole, the program start normally but the text (something like user@compute>) doesn't appear also I cannot type anything, it looks like the program konsole started normally but the terminal part doesn't work, there's no error |
| 19:55.58 | monster | <leeghoofd_>: sorry PATH can be set in bashrc |
| 19:56.20 | HilBilly | check your settings ... your background and foreground might be the same |
| 19:56.26 | monster | \/var\/log\/syslog ? |
| 19:56.29 | monster | shit |
| 19:56.38 | monster | i mean check syslog |
| 19:56.50 | HilBilly | leeghoofd_ ... try typing xterm inside of konsole .. see if it fires up |
| 19:56.57 | leeghoofd_ | HilBilly, no thats not it because in de left top I can see the black mouse pointer |
| 19:57.41 | leeghoofd_ | HilBilly, doesn;'t work, but xterm also doesn't work if I do start->exec app and type xterm there, none of the terminals work |
| 19:57.50 | leeghoofd_ | I'm going to check the log |
| 19:57.59 | HilBilly | ok |
| 20:01.10 | leeghoofd_ | the log says: kdm: :0[3829] PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so) |
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| 20:01.57 | HilBilly | That shouldn't affect konsole |
| 20:02.48 | leeghoofd_ | mm I hoped that message was related, the file doesn't exists so I'm going to try to reinstall pam |
| 20:03.10 | HilBilly | unless ... you weren't trying to run konsole in administrator mode, were you? |
| 20:03.18 | HilBilly | eg: root |
| 20:04.03 | leeghoofd_ | HilBilly, no, I tried both the user konsole and the admin konsole |
| 20:04.49 | HilBilly | I don't have that file either and am definately running pam |
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| 20:05.56 | DaSkreech | Very cool :-) |
| 20:06.06 | leeghoofd_ | yeah I checked the arhlinux package program but none of the packages on my system have that file in there so I have never had that file so it can't be related to the problems |
| 20:06.06 | DaSkreech | http://www.driverheaven.net/~pete/article4.htm |
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| 20:11.21 | leeghoofd_ | hey, in ~/.xsession-errors is the error: "Uh oh... can't write data' that probably occured during the crash of my computer |
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| 20:12.02 | leeghoofd_ | could someone tell me if ~/.Xauthority is a binary or a text file? |
| 20:12.48 | ponto | leeghoofd_: binary imo |
| 20:12.52 | EasterSunshine | binary |
| 20:12.56 | DaSkreech | Is KDE going to use Cairo in 4.0? |
| 20:12.58 | EasterSunshine | non ascii-characters gives it away |
| 20:13.21 | leeghoofd_ | too bad I hoped I found the corrupted file because it has those non ascii chars :) |
| 20:13.40 | leeghoofd_ | but it's noraml then |
| 20:14.46 | monster | can somebody tell me how to enable mouse scrollling ? ZAxisMapping 4 5 is set in XF86Config-4 |
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| 20:15.50 | leeghoofd_ | monster, did you restart x after editing the conf file? |
| 20:16.05 | monster | <leeghoofd_>: yes several times |
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| 20:16.24 | ponto | monster: wich mouse protocol? |
| 20:16.42 | monster | PPS/2 |
| 20:16.53 | ponto | monster: try imps/2 |
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| 20:17.24 | ponto | monster: however, does your distribution not handle this? |
| 20:17.58 | monster | what imps/2? |
| 20:18.08 | monster | brb |
| 20:18.12 | ponto | XFree configuration |
| 20:18.23 | DaSkreech | Seems to have a good tradeoff of sweetness and resources |
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| 20:18.53 | monster | <ponto> |
| 20:18.58 | leeghoofd_ | brb (x restart) |
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| 20:19.11 | monster | <ponto>: you mean xfreecfg? |
| 20:19.26 | ponto | monster: which distribution do you have? |
| 20:19.33 | monster | debian sid |
| 20:19.50 | ponto | monster: then edit the file by hand :) |
| 20:20.14 | monster | yeah i always do it like that :) |
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| 20:22.05 | HilBilly | leeghoofd .. did konsole used to work and now doesn't .. or is this a new install? |
| 20:22.45 | leeghoofd | HilBilly, I used to work, I think that it doens't work anymore since a crash due to a full hd |
| 20:22.50 | leeghoofd | s/I/it |
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| 20:23.47 | HilBilly | try renaming .kde to something else and log out/log in .. see if that fixes it |
| 20:24.11 | monster | thanks changing to imps/2 helped |
| 20:25.25 | leeghoofd | brb |
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| 20:29.14 | monster | I'm currently using xfree86 but wanted to change to xorg |
| 20:29.59 | leeghoofd | I tried renaming .kde but the problem was still there which mean the program is probably not even kde related.. I think I'm going to try a reinstall, thanks everyone for your help and patience! |
| 20:30.08 | monster | better go and read smth about it :) |
| 20:30.31 | monster | reinstall all system? |
| 20:31.22 | leeghoofd | monster, yep, but lukily that doens't take to much time with archlinu |
| 20:31.55 | monster | as you wish :) but ... |
| 20:31.56 | leeghoofd | but I do want to know how this probram occurred! :s |
| 20:32.08 | leeghoofd | s/probram/problem |
| 20:32.13 | DaSkreech | Is there a KDE 4.0 Roadmap? |
| 20:32.52 | monster | then you must think more about it ... |
| 20:33.02 | hon | is it possible to install adobe svg for konqi? |
| 20:33.03 | monster | the terminals works ok? |
| 20:33.26 | monster | but the rpoblem is only in kde? |
| 20:33.26 | leeghoofd | monster, no, none of the terminals work with this user, only console |
| 20:33.56 | leeghoofd | monster, no, its only with this user, so I realised it isn't related to kde |
| 20:34.00 | monster | and text terminal besides xserver? |
| 20:34.21 | leeghoofd | you mean the console? |
| 20:34.25 | monster | yes |
| 20:34.32 | leeghoofd | that one works ok |
| 20:35.01 | monster | I dont remeber this is comon user not root? |
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| 20:35.10 | Weetox | hello |
| 20:35.17 | Weetox | cn anybody help me with gentoo? |
| 20:35.26 | monster | <Weetox>: hello |
| 20:35.38 | Weetox | hi ;) |
| 20:35.50 | leeghoofd | monster, yes |
| 20:36.08 | Weetox | my problem is that I have just installed KDE using konstruct but now i don't know how to boot it automatically at the start |
| 20:36.08 | leeghoofd | monster, yes its a commun user ;) |
| 20:36.15 | monster | <leeghoofd>: ok why dont you try to delete it and add this user again? |
| 20:37.10 | leeghoofd | monster, that's a very good idee, and than copy the omportant config files and document!, that idee is saving me much time! :) thanks |
| 20:37.16 | monster | <Weetox>: you must use display manager (kdm,gdm) |
| 20:37.24 | Weetox | ok i will try |
| 20:37.35 | Weetox | but how to? |
| 20:37.48 | monster | <leeghoofd>: good luck |
| 20:38.07 | monster | <Weetox>: install gdm and read docs |
| 20:38.08 | leeghoofd | Weetox, add xdm to your runlevels, and edit you important config file (wha's it called in gentoo) to start kdm as session manager |
| 20:38.27 | Weetox | oki |
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| 20:38.40 | monster | as far as i know gentoo is based on debian so |
| 20:39.07 | leeghoofd | mm I haven't used gentoo for too long :) |
| 20:39.39 | Weetox | ok I am downloading kdm now |
| 20:39.44 | monster | try to install gdm and if there wont be default config you will ask us what to do |
| 20:40.03 | monster | I dont either but my friend still using it |
| 20:40.10 | leeghoofd | monster, he uses kde so needs kdm not gdm? |
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| 20:40.32 | monster | no it isn't connected |
| 20:40.41 | Weetox | and another thing that worry me |
| 20:40.42 | monster | I'm using kde and gdm :) |
| 20:40.54 | Weetox | the konstruct README |
| 20:40.56 | leeghoofd | why monster ? |
| 20:41.56 | monster | hmm because I think gdm has better look & feel and it can be configured witj it's configuration tool |
| 20:42.10 | leeghoofd | ok |
| 20:42.20 | monster | not even touching configuration file |
| 20:42.25 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.26 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.26 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.26 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.26 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.26 | Weetox | Setting KDEHOME too, e.g. "export KDEHOME=~/.kdetest", will tell KDE to save |
| 20:42.28 | Weetox | your settings to this directory and leave default ~/.kde directory unaffected. |
| 20:42.31 | Weetox | when I do this |
| 20:42.45 | Weetox | i think it will be for typing "startkde" and then it start |
| 20:43.12 | Weetox | but I have to type all this commands each time i logg in |
| 20:43.25 | Weetox | for enable startkde |
| 20:43.53 | monster | well |
| 20:44.04 | monster | add it all to your bashrc |
| 20:44.19 | monster | did yoou installed display manager ? |
| 20:44.27 | Weetox | I'm on it :) |
| 20:44.50 | leeghoofd | Weetox, did you read this guide? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml] |
| 20:45.17 | Weetox | mm, interesting... |
| 20:45.20 | leeghoofd | I think it has all the info you need |
| 20:45.37 | Weetox | thanks |
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| 20:45.41 | leeghoofd | np |
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| 20:52.37 | Sgep | How do I get MIDI to work? |
| 20:52.45 | Sgep | Distro: Kubuntu LiveCD |
| 20:52.50 | Sgep | KDE 3.4.0 |
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| 20:54.39 | ponto | Sgep: do you have a soundcard which is able fo midi? |
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| 20:55.32 | Sgep | Yes, but not well. Is there a F/OSS synthesiser that wouldn't rely on the soundcard? |
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| 20:55.49 | koala_man | yes, timidity. it can act as an alsa sequencer |
| 20:55.50 | ponto | Sgep: timidity |
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| 20:56.52 | Sgep | How do I use Timidity as KDE's default MIID device? |
| 20:57.00 | Sgep | *MIDI |
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| 21:08.47 | Sgep | How do I use Timidity as an ALSA sequencer? |
| 21:09.26 | PhilRod | try #alsa or #yourdistro |
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| 21:15.27 | monster | anyone knows why mc starts so slowly ? |
| 21:20.34 | PieD | mc ? |
| 21:20.45 | raf256 | mc eminem \o/ |
| 21:21.03 | raf256 | monster: mc have NOTHING to do with kde |
| 21:21.07 | raf256 | mc as in "midnight commander"? |
| 21:22.11 | monster | yes I know but if somebody knows it could be nice to tell :) |
| 21:22.29 | PhilRod | PieD: someone here has a guide about "how to ask questions". In fact, I wrote one too (although it's slightly #kde-specific): http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asking+Questions |
| 21:22.46 | PieD | PhilRod: thanks :) |
| 21:22.49 | PhilRod | (re: your question in #kde-fr of several hours ago) |
| 21:23.00 | PieD | I understood :) |
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| 21:28.05 | nakeee | I'm trying to spell check in hebrew using hspell in koffice but when I go to spell options it shows me only english |
| 21:28.12 | nakeee | any idea how can I make it see hspell? |
| 21:28.20 | nakeee | the global kde uses hspell fine |
| 21:30.04 | PhilRod | they might know in #koffice |
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| 21:38.37 | PieD | PhilRod: I think something lacks on that howto : |
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| 21:38.49 | liquidat | Hi.. |
| 21:38.55 | PhilRod | PieD: go ahead and add it :-) |
| 21:38.56 | PieD | "Please start your brain before asking questions" |
| 21:38.59 | PhilRod | hi liquidat |
| 21:39.03 | PieD | can I add it ? |
| 21:39.07 | liquidat | Hi PhilRod. |
| 21:39.43 | nakeee | does koffice uses enchant? |
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| 21:40.18 | bernard | hi |
| 21:40.28 | PhilRod | PieD: um, perhaps there's a nicer way to put it: "Make sure you've tried to find the solution yourself first, and explain what you've tried" :-) |
| 21:40.36 | PieD | no no no |
| 21:41.00 | PieD | the phenomenal person we had a few hours ago had no brain |
| 21:41.06 | PieD | or no eyes |
| 21:41.12 | PieD | or didn't know how to read |
| 21:41.46 | PieD | he asked how to add a shortcut to gaim on the desktop |
| 21:42.02 | bernard | I can launch konqueror but when I try to see a web site I get "Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher." |
| 21:42.13 | PieD | I answered : right click on the desktop => new > |
| 21:42.18 | PieD | Link to an application |
| 21:42.23 | PieD | and he didn't understand :/ |
| 21:42.37 | PhilRod | heh, some people are beyond help :-) |
| 21:43.06 | PieD | that's why I'd like to add that sentence to the howto |
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| 21:44.16 | PhilRod | bernard: does it work for any other users? |
| 21:45.08 | bernard | PhilRod: no |
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| 21:45.32 | PhilRod | distro? kde version? does konq work for file browsing? ftp? fish:/? |
| 21:46.39 | bernard | debian sid, 3.3.2, no, no, no |
| 21:48.41 | pusling | bernard: have you just done a dist-upgrade and not restarted kde afterwards ? |
| 21:49.08 | bernard | I've done a dist-upgrade but I'm not using kde |
| 21:49.23 | bernard | before I reboot my computer, it worked fine |
| 21:49.37 | pusling | try restart X |
| 21:49.41 | bernard | I hadn't rebooted it 1+ month |
| 21:49.52 | bernard | +for |
| 21:50.04 | bernard | pusling: when you reboot, it restarts X too ;) |
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| 21:50.22 | pusling | oh - you have just rebooted after latest dist-upgrade ? |
| 21:50.30 | bernard | yes |
| 21:50.37 | bernard | was it that a bad idea? :( |
| 21:50.44 | pusling | oh no. |
| 21:51.03 | bernard | is kde broken in debian sid? |
| 21:51.05 | pusling | my konqueror stopped working after a dist-upgrade - and a restart of X made it work again |
| 21:51.22 | pusling | bernard: quite broken, yes, but should work ;) |
| 21:51.38 | pusling | (I use kde3.4 from alioth and experimental) |
| 21:51.49 | bernard | I haven't upgrade X yet |
| 21:52.03 | bernard | I'm going to do that and see if it fixes anything |
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| 21:52.21 | pusling | try start kde and see if stuff works |
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| 21:53.00 | bernard | kde isn't installed |
| 21:53.19 | bernard | I'm using window maker with some KDE apps |
| 21:53.49 | pusling | is klauncher installed ? |
| 21:54.36 | bernard | well, I have a programm called "klauncher" |
| 21:55.49 | pusling | try launch it ;) |
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| 21:56.03 | bernard | klauncher: This program is not supposed to be started manually. |
| 21:56.03 | bernard | klauncher: It is started automatically by kdeinit. |
| 21:56.26 | pusling | try launch kdeinit ;) |
| 21:56.41 | mike-m | lol |
| 21:57.15 | bernard | It looks like dcopserver is already running. [...] |
| 21:57.18 | pusling | I did some of it when trying to make konqueror work in enlightenment (or maybe fluxbox) - and it ended up working ... |
| 21:57.25 | bernard | kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! |
| 21:57.25 | bernard | KCrash: Application 'klauncher' crashing... |
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| 21:59.33 | pusling | hmm... that might be a problem. |
| 21:59.43 | pusling | now we are out of what I have tried ... |
| 22:01.18 | bernard | :( |
| 22:05.49 | Daisuke | bernard |
| 22:05.52 | Daisuke | Run.. |
| 22:06.15 | Daisuke | Well, remove your /tmp/*-kde* files and your ~/.DCOP, and anything with KDE, and stuff then relaunch |
| 22:06.20 | Daisuke | kill your .qt and .kde |
| 22:06.36 | PhilRod | don't |
| 22:06.47 | PhilRod | well, just rename ~/.qt and ~/.kde |
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| 22:07.03 | PhilRod | ~/.kde contains lots of your data (address book, perhaps mail) |
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| 22:07.23 | PhilRod | Daisuke: <PhilRod> ~/.kde contains lots of your data (address book, perhaps mail) |
| 22:07.29 | PhilRod | ...which is why you shouldn't delete it |
| 22:07.51 | Daisuke | Oh |
| 22:07.58 | Daisuke | Well, then ... lol |
| 22:08.16 | PhilRod | there was a big fuss about it a while back |
| 22:08.31 | Daisuke | ? |
| 22:08.58 | PhilRod | kmail now stores mail in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail or somewhere (by default) |
| 22:09.17 | PhilRod | so deleting ~/.kde might lose all your mail |
| 22:09.19 | bernard | Daisuke: doesn't work better |
| 22:09.32 | PhilRod | some people weren't happy |
| 22:10.50 | Weetox | monster: I have just installed xdm |
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| 22:11.10 | Weetox | but the command startkde doesn't work |
| 22:11.11 | Weetox | : |
| 22:11.49 | PhilRod | Weetox: put "exec startkde" in ~/.xsession |
| 22:11.52 | PhilRod | then log in with xd, |
| 22:11.55 | PhilRod | xdm* |
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| 22:12.07 | Weetox | mm |
| 22:12.22 | chaosboss | hey, i have just installed a slack, and i can only login as root, because any user i add, the system crash, saying that there's an error in a DCOPblablabla file... can somebody help me? |
| 22:12.46 | PhilRod | only if you give the whole error message |
| 22:12.54 | chaosboss | ok, just wait |
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| 22:16.08 | chaosboss | hey, here it goes |
| 22:16.11 | chaosboss | Could not read network connection list |
| 22:16.11 | chaosboss | /home/chaos/.DCOPserver_slack__0 |
| 22:16.55 | chaosboss | i've tried installing by KUser, and by 'adduser', no one works |
| 22:17.07 | bernard | Daisuke: let's try to "apt-get remove --purge" it and then reinstall |
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| 22:17.50 | KrLoS | hi people |
| 22:18.01 | KrLoS | please i need help |
| 22:18.10 | KrLoS | i lost mi mouse conf... |
| 22:18.23 | KrLoS | i puti use xf86 |
| 22:18.29 | KrLoS | I use xf86 |
| 22:18.56 | KrLoS | i must conf now mi ouse as a generrical mouse but does't work |
| 22:19.14 | KrLoS | i remember that in kde there are a graphic tool to conf the mouse |
| 22:19.15 | KrLoS | please |
| 22:19.19 | KrLoS | give me a hand |
| 22:19.56 | blshkv | xorgcfg?.. |
| 22:20.10 | chaosboss | try xf86cfg too |
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| 22:20.16 | KrLoS | i try it |
| 22:20.31 | jcurry | are we aware of: https://www.bsrf.org.uk/article.php?story=20050808095252412 ? if not, i'll file a bug |
| 22:20.44 | KrLoS | mi mouse is a logitech optical with scroll |
| 22:20.56 | blshkv | guys, how to shutdown kde on idle?.. |
| 22:21.00 | KrLoS | I try to use a generical |
| 22:21.06 | KrLoS | in xfconfig |
| 22:21.12 | KrLoS | and not work |
| 22:21.21 | chaosboss | i'll see my xorg.conf |
| 22:22.40 | jcurry | hello? |
| 22:23.38 | blshkv | jcurry: I never used kwallet. |
| 22:26.45 | jcurry | but the issue still needs to be addresses, some people do use it |
| 22:26.52 | jcurry | addressed* |
| 22:26.52 | Weetox | Philrod: I think I am doing it bad |
| 22:26.59 | jcurry | i'll file a bug :) |
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| 22:27.43 | Weetox | what must I do exactly? |
| 22:27.54 | Gumby | can anyone tell me if it is possible to store imap emails locally in kmail so that when I am offline I can still read existing ones, or does it do this by default? |
| 22:28.09 | Fleck | it does |
| 22:28.10 | Fleck | sure |
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| 22:28.25 | neoclust | hi |
| 22:30.26 | blshkv | guys, how to shutdown kde on idle?.. |
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| 22:30.38 | liquidat | Hm, I have one curious problem with konqueror: |
| 22:31.01 | liquidat | The standard search (for example with google) only works when I input more than one word. |
| 22:31.24 | liquidat | If i only input one word into the address-line, f.e. whatever, it jumps to http://whatever . |
| 22:31.32 | liquidat | Can someone confirm this? |
| 22:32.48 | Weetox | I haven't this folder |
| 22:34.07 | liquidat | Weetox: do you mean me? |
| 22:34.23 | Weetox | anybody who can helps me xdd |
| 22:34.47 | Weetox | i don't know how to boot KDE automatically |
| 22:34.47 | Weetox | :S |
| 22:34.50 | Weetox | with xdm |
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| 22:36.18 | blshkv | Weetox: which distro? |
| 22:36.20 | aseigo | Weetox: xdm? ug. use kdm =P |
| 22:36.27 | Weetox | gentoo |
| 22:36.37 | blshkv | rc-update add xdm default |
| 22:36.45 | Weetox | I have done this |
| 22:36.51 | Weetox | but it only boots with Xterm |
| 22:36.53 | blshkv | and change /etc/conf/.. |
| 22:37.15 | Weetox | the problem is that the command startkde doesn't work |
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| 22:37.29 | Weetox | in the konstruct readme it said |
| 22:37.39 | Weetox | to type a few commands after installing |
| 22:37.49 | Weetox | when I type that startkde workd |
| 22:37.59 | Weetox | but I have to type that all the time I boot |
| 22:37.59 | blshkv | oh, sorry, it's not /etc/conf. It's /etc/rc.conf DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" |
| 22:38.33 | bernard | reinstalling konqueror worked but I lost all my conf :( |
| 22:38.41 | bernard | (including bookmarks) |
| 22:39.15 | Weetox | blshkv I have done this |
| 22:40.33 | blshkv | Weetox: where have you stuck?.. |
| 22:40.47 | Weetox | stuck¿? |
| 22:41.31 | blshkv | yeh, what's status? Have you got X running? is it just xdm or kdm?.. |
| 22:43.53 | Weetox | xdm |
| 22:43.57 | Weetox | I have got X running |
| 22:43.59 | Weetox | the problem is |
| 22:44.11 | Weetox | that I have to type several commands for enable the command startkde |
| 22:44.19 | Weetox | and I have to type it each time I boot my PC |
| 22:46.09 | blshkv | look, /etc/init.d/xdm will start xdm by default. You just neet to specify kdm in rc.conf and that's it. |
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| 22:48.13 | blshkv | you might want to speficy starkde in .xinitrc if not using xdm |
| 22:50.18 | Weetox | ok I will type kdm |
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| 22:53.32 | Weetox | blshkv if I type kdm... it's the same |
| 22:53.37 | Weetox | it boot Xterm |
| 22:53.45 | Weetox | and not KDE |
| 22:55.09 | blshkv | rc.conf |
| 22:55.39 | Weetox | yes, I have put kdm there |
| 22:55.48 | blshkv | donno then. |
| 22:55.51 | blshkv | sorry :) |
| 22:55.52 | Weetox | I think it can't find KDE |
| 22:56.21 | blshkv | it's easy to check. Just add startkde in .xinitrc and startx |
| 22:56.57 | Weetox | mmm |
| 22:57.06 | Weetox | this is the thing I don't know hot to do |
| 22:57.56 | Weetox | take a look: |
| 22:57.58 | blshkv | switch back to the console atl-ctrl-f1, /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 22:57.58 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.59 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.59 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.59 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.59 | Weetox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.01 | Weetox | Setting KDEHOME too, e.g. "export KDEHOME=~/.kdetest", will tell KDE to save |
| 22:58.03 | Weetox | your settings to this directory and leave default ~/.kde directory unaffected. |
| 22:58.27 | blshkv | you don't need all this ;) |
| 22:58.40 | Weetox | oki |
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| 22:58.59 | Weetox | ok xdm it's stopped now |
| 22:59.21 | blshkv | add the line into xinitrc |
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| 22:59.45 | Weetox | where is xinitrc |
| 22:59.52 | blshkv | create it |
| 22:59.58 | blshkv | .xinitrc |
| 23:00.07 | blshkv | in your homedir |
| 23:00.51 | blshkv | all: how to shutdown KDE on idle?.. |
| 23:01.18 | blshkv | Weetox: echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc |
| 23:01.26 | Weetox | ok |
| 23:02.06 | blshkv | check that this is only the one line there: more .xinitrc |
| 23:02.11 | blshkv | and startx |
| 23:03.24 | Weetox | it says it can't found startkde |
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| 23:06.24 | blshkv | oh.. |
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| 23:06.58 | vortik | hello :) is it possible to install themes and window decorations into ~/.kde/ , or do they need to be installed system wide? |
| 23:07.31 | blshkv | Weetox: have you installed the kde? :) just stupid q. |
| 23:07.38 | Weetox | yup |
| 23:07.41 | blshkv | how? |
| 23:07.42 | Weetox | but |
| 23:07.56 | Weetox | startkde only works if y type that commands i said you before |
| 23:08.07 | Weetox | and only then I can enter to KDE |
| 23:08.46 | Weetox | the problem it's that I have to retype all of these commands each time I boot my system :\ |
| 23:08.48 | blshkv | ok, I've it in /usr/kde/3.4/bin |
| 23:09.08 | blshkv | how did you emerge kde? |
| 23:10.29 | blshkv | vortik: you can do both. |
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| 23:12.20 | vortik | blshkv: nice. what should my prefix be when compiling? default is /usr, but I don't want a make install to toss crap into /usr/blah |
| 23:13.55 | Weetox | i installed KDE using konstruct |
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| 23:15.00 | blshkv | Weetox: emerge -pv kdebase-meta; etc-update |
| 23:16.00 | blshkv | vortik: hm.. I just checked. It goes to /.kde3.4/share/apps/kstyle/themes for me. |
| 23:16.14 | vortik | blshkv: cool; thank you. |
| 23:18.19 | Weetox | blshkv I have just typed the commands again and startx could find startKDE |
| 23:18.23 | Weetox | startkde* |
| 23:19.00 | jcesaro | startx -_- |
| 23:19.10 | blshkv | Weetox: I have no idea what's konstruct. There is only one command under gentoo to install: emerge :) |
| 23:19.37 | blshkv | Weetox: did you install split kde or traditional?.. |
| 23:20.12 | Weetox | mm?ç |
| 23:20.25 | blshkv | in case if its split type: emerge kdebase-meta and double check that everything install. |
| 23:20.35 | blshkv | you might need etc-update as well. |
| 23:20.49 | blshkv | Weetox: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml |
| 23:20.58 | blshkv | and keep reading the f@#ing manual :) |
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| 23:31.10 | Sgep | Distro: Kubuntu LiveCD; KDE Version: 3.4.0 |
| 23:31.25 | Sgep | How do I use TiMidity as a MIDI device? |
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| 23:42.13 | vortik | blshkv: so, I download a window decoration.. untar, configure, make.. now.. make install wants to put the files in /usr/lib/kde3.. do I have a way around this? perferably.. i'd like the file in .kde somewhere... but these window decorations seam to be libs.. .la and .so files |
| 23:44.15 | Sgep | Errk |
| 23:44.18 | Sgep | Wrong channel |
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