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| 00:00.30 | Gatak | oh I just read the link in the topic =).Hopefully working soon with QT4 =) |
| 00:00.55 | sloof3 | any reason for kdesu causing an app to crash? Ethereal crashes for me when used with kdesu but not if used alone |
| 00:01.34 | sloof3 | Gentoo, kde 3.4 |
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| 00:04.52 | Alethes | sloof3: run the app from a terminal as root |
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| 00:07.35 | solarpluck | Does anyone know Qt well? |
| 00:08.13 | solarpluck | Don't all jump at once. |
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| 00:10.46 | solarpluck | Hmmm, I guess we're gonna have rice tonight. |
| 00:13.00 | sloof3 | Alethes: I CAN do that, but I'm just nothing that kdesu (at this point in time) is causing a crash with ethereal. As that seems to be the only variable |
| 00:13.22 | Alethes | the reason I suggest that is so you might be able to see an error message |
| 00:13.59 | sloof3 | Alethes: well no crash so no error message |
| 00:14.15 | Alethes | Ethereal crashes for me when used with kdesu but not if used alone |
| 00:14.17 | Alethes | no crash? |
| 00:15.02 | Alethes | run "kdesu ethereal" from a terminal |
| 00:15.21 | sloof3 | ok here's the situation: When I use ethereal with kdesu, Ethereal crashed when I stop capture. Not the case when ethereal run from a commandline without kdesu |
| 00:15.25 | solarpluck | Any ideaaars? |
| 00:15.45 | solarpluck | I need to connect a window close with a function. |
| 00:16.13 | mobtek | you can do that in designer if you read the designer tutorial :) |
| 00:16.20 | sloof3 | solarpluck: isn't that stuff documented? |
| 00:16.34 | solarpluck | I'm reading the assistant. |
| 00:16.45 | solarpluck | I don't like using the designer... it makes me feel less manly. |
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| 00:21.08 | sloof3 | not important I guess |
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| 00:29.37 | Aison | hmm, I pressed a key (forgot it) |
| 00:29.44 | Aison | now I have got a blue bar in kate |
| 00:29.54 | Aison | in the file that im editing ^^ |
| 00:31.49 | illogic-al | neat |
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| 00:36.06 | illogic-al | quiet in here. |
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| 00:44.20 | grepper | ok |
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| 01:17.43 | Russian_Bear_Lak | hi |
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| 01:45.03 | zubov | i am running multiple screens which are both started on one Xorg server, right now kde (invoked with "startkde") manages both screens. My question is, can I get kde to only manage screen 0 and not screen 1? ("DISPLAY=:0.0 startkde" did not work) |
| 01:46.07 | jcurry | could someone help me get embedded video's working? if i click on a video file, i get the error: library files for libkmplayerpart.la not in paths. I cannot find any such file on my system...i'm using christian marillat's package on debian sid |
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| 01:55.13 | grepper | kmplayer ? |
| 01:55.25 | jcurry | yeah, a kde mplayer frontend |
| 01:55.32 | jcurry | extremely nice |
| 01:55.45 | grepper | I know what it is |
| 01:55.59 | grepper | marillat doesn't have kmplayer I thought |
| 01:56.22 | grepper | kplayer, yes |
| 01:56.48 | grepper | check your file associations |
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| 01:57.18 | jcurry | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/k/kmplayer |
| 01:57.31 | jcurry | my file associates say to use kmplayerpart, embedded |
| 01:58.03 | jcurry | for some reason, i have an old version of the deb, i'll try upgrading first |
| 01:58.07 | grepper | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 01:58.10 | grepper | is what I have |
| 01:58.13 | jcurry | right |
| 01:58.24 | grepper | $ apt-cache search kmplayer |
| 01:58.25 | grepper | [robert@phebehouse mprime2412] $ |
| 01:58.33 | jcurry | i guess 0.9.0 is just out, and i didn't update yet |
| 01:58.42 | jcurry | wierd...it is in the ftp archive |
| 01:58.43 | grepper | oops |
| 01:58.48 | jcurry | oops? |
| 01:59.01 | grepper | just remembered I commented it out cause the site was borked the other day |
| 01:59.08 | jcurry | updating my lists takes forever, cause dialup is slow as hell |
| 01:59.13 | jcurry | that'll do it every time |
| 01:59.28 | grepper | I still can't figure out how to set the timeout |
| 01:59.43 | jcurry | i have a list of very useful apt aliases, maybe i should publish them? |
| 01:59.44 | grepper | tried the suggested fix to /etc/apt/preferences or whatever it was |
| 01:59.52 | jcurry | what timeout? |
| 02:00.34 | jcurry | i get 'Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release', does that have something to do with it? |
| 02:00.46 | grepper | no |
| 02:00.54 | grepper | just means he doesn't have a "Release" file |
| 02:01.09 | jcurry | oh...what does a realeas file usually contain? |
| 02:01.52 | grepper | oh, apt.conf |
| 02:02.07 | grepper | http { Timeout "30"; }; |
| 02:02.09 | grepper | etc |
| 02:03.26 | jcurry | hmm, where is your apt.conf file? |
| 02:03.31 | jcurry | i can't 'locate' it |
| 02:04.39 | grepper | Release file is just a simple text file, saying things like: Archive: unstable etc etc |
| 02:04.52 | grepper | you don't have it probably |
| 02:05.12 | grepper | the timeout doesn't work however :) |
| 02:05.31 | jcurry | ptooi |
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| 02:11.14 | zubov | i am running multiple screens which are both started on one Xorg server, right now kde (invoked with "startkde") manages both screens. My question is, can I get kde to only manage screen 0 and not screen 1? ("DISPLAY=:0.0 startkde" did not work) (and I won't leave this time to go try something else =)) |
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| 02:13.02 | slosik | what are some things I can do to optimize KDE, it seems like my KDE is kindha sluggish at times... |
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| 02:14.06 | zubov | more ram :) |
| 02:14.09 | rutski89 | is there anyway to get KMail to group all the REs of message into one unit? |
| 02:14.13 | zubov | run less applications :) |
| 02:14.48 | slosik | well, I have 512 meg ram, and dont run much. |
| 02:14.54 | slosik | like if i just boot it up |
| 02:15.18 | redguy | slosik: prelink can lower app load times I suppose |
| 02:15.20 | slosik | and say click on the web browser it wants to hang and give me loading symbol for like 10 - 15 wecs b4 the app is launched |
| 02:15.46 | grepper | slosik: what processor do you have ? |
| 02:15.48 | slosik | redguy: hmm dont know what prelink is |
| 02:15.59 | slosik | redguy: p4 2.5 |
| 02:16.15 | slosik | grepper: p4 2.5 |
| 02:17.01 | grepper | well, I would forget about prelink - you have other problems - no way it should take 15 secs to load on that |
| 02:17.15 | slosik | ya, and when i look at the performance monitor |
| 02:17.17 | slosik | ... |
| 02:17.38 | grepper | is something comsuming a lot of cpu or memory ? |
| 02:17.40 | jcurry | ooh, sounds bad |
| 02:17.45 | slosik | my cpu usuage max'es out when opeing a app, and my memory usaage is alwyas a constant half way up |
| 02:18.00 | grepper | try running "fc-cache -f -v" as root for starters |
| 02:18.01 | jcurry | i have 512 with a amd duron 1.3, and konq takes 0-2 secs |
| 02:18.40 | slosik | my swap memory is a constant max'd out too |
| 02:18.44 | slosik | will try that command |
| 02:19.09 | grepper | swap is maxed ? that is not good |
| 02:19.28 | illogic-al | i HATE #xorg |
| 02:19.32 | illogic-al | ! |
| 02:19.40 | redguy | swap is maxed and phisical memory is half full? this is odd |
| 02:19.45 | slosik | load average is 1 min whatever that is |
| 02:19.48 | grepper | slosik: what does /sbin/swapon -s say ? |
| 02:20.52 | slosik | Filename Type Size Used Priority |
| 02:20.52 | slosik | /dev/hda1 partition 506008 3852 -1 |
| 02:21.07 | grepper | you are hardly using any of it |
| 02:21.30 | grepper | certainly nothing to worry about there |
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| 02:22.00 | slosik | wish I could print the performance graph to let you see it |
| 02:22.09 | slosik | hmm, mayby I am reading it wroung |
| 02:22.11 | jcurry | ooh, take a screenshot |
| 02:22.33 | slosik | heh dont know how, or where prnt scn would save it |
| 02:22.49 | grepper | free|grep buffers/cache |
| 02:23.18 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.43 | grepper | -/+ buffers/cache: 138584 376604 |
| 02:23.53 | jcurry | slosik, ksnapshot will do the trick |
| 02:23.57 | slosik | -/+ buffers/cache: 108016 406688 |
| 02:24.08 | redguy | and post it to http://www.imageshack.us/ |
| 02:24.20 | jcurry | :) |
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| 02:24.39 | grepper | slosik: you have lots of memory available |
| 02:24.51 | slosik | mayby i read this graph wroung |
| 02:25.23 | slosik | the physical memory graph is tri colored, orange, yellow, and blue |
| 02:25.26 | grepper | 406688 is buffers/cache so it will be used as soon as an app needs it |
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| 02:26.21 | grepper | linux tries to use as much of your memory as possible, which is a good thing |
| 02:26.41 | slosik | says memory used: 427,928 memory available: 86,684 |
| 02:26.48 | zubov | right "free" memory in linux should not happen :) |
| 02:27.03 | masonf | anybody getting the compile error visiblitly arg must be one of "default","hidden"... |
| 02:27.13 | grepper | <slosik> -/+ buffers/cache: 108016 406688 <- that is the telling line |
| 02:27.30 | slosik | ok |
| 02:27.43 | masonf | I am useing the freebsd port |
| 02:28.08 | masonf | the first error occers on favicons.cpp:269 |
| 02:31.57 | asdf | amen fish! :) |
| 02:32.10 | asdf | is there a way to mount a directory with fish? |
| 02:33.14 | jcurry | mount? |
| 02:33.25 | redguy | fish? |
| 02:33.27 | jcurry | no, fish:/ is a kde-only kio-slave |
| 02:33.34 | asdf | aw |
| 02:33.37 | jcurry | while mount is a commandline tool |
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| 02:33.55 | asdf | jcurry: no worries, it's very helpful. |
| 02:33.59 | jcurry | mounting file systems is the kernel's job |
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| 02:42.01 | garrett | anyone here know how to get linux to use the ipx protocol? |
| 02:43.54 | redguy | tried google? http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO.html |
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| 02:44.47 | garrett | yeah, that got me lost pretty quick |
| 02:44.52 | garrett | i just need it for gaming |
| 02:45.14 | garrett | that explains how to setup ipx for routing with pretty complex stuff |
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| 03:03.32 | oneforall | hi in the left tree there away to have it stop showing the zip files and just show the dirs ? |
| 03:04.34 | illogic-al | oneforall: edit the source, failing that, i guess you could remove the file for the zip ioslave |
| 03:04.42 | illogic-al | barring that. i doubt it. |
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| 03:04.56 | zubov | i am running multiple screens which are both started on one Xorg server, right now kde (invoked with "startkde") manages both screens. My question is, can I get kde to only manage screen 0 and not screen 1? ("DISPLAY=:0.0 startkde" did not work) |
| 03:04.56 | oneforall | I'd rather have it soe the hidden dirs to drag drop easier |
| 03:05.34 | oneforall | soe/show |
| 03:09.11 | illogic-al | export DISPLAY=0.0; startlde |
| 03:09.14 | illogic-al | try that |
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| 03:14.13 | redguy | I have a setting problem. At kde-look.org, when I want to download something with Konqueror and just click the link the file is opened in Kate with proper name. When I choose 'Save link as' form the context menu the file is downloaded, but saved as 'download.php'. Where can I change this behaviour? |
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| 03:17.15 | parph | I have a problem with kmenu, I see programs duplicated, like k3b appearing twice, realplayer twice, etc, how can I fix this? When I remove one realplayer, both vanish. |
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| 03:57.51 | PurpleBlu | CyberSpy awake? |
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| 03:59.32 | PiotrBanasik | I've been wondering .. is there a way to make the tree view not change its "root" when a folder is clicked? |
| 04:00.14 | PiotrBanasik | er .. the konq file list tree view mode that is |
| 04:00.48 | CyberSpy | I'm here PurpleBlu |
| 04:00.59 | CyberSpy | I got your message earlier, but you were offline |
| 04:01.08 | PurpleBlu | ohh okay |
| 04:01.27 | CyberSpy | Want to see what I've been working on? |
| 04:01.29 | PurpleBlu | I had a few questions, and you are the only super smart dude that I know that actually very helpful |
| 04:01.31 | PurpleBlu | yeah |
| 04:01.49 | CyberSpy | www.cybersp.ws/snapshot1.png |
| 04:01.54 | CyberSpy | wait |
| 04:01.59 | CyberSpy | www.cyberspy.ws/snapshot1.png |
| 04:02.01 | CyberSpy | there we go |
| 04:02.01 | CyberSpy | lol |
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| 04:02.15 | CyberSpy | I have a matching login screen and splash screen |
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| 04:02.37 | PurpleBlu | Similiar theme |
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| 04:02.46 | PurpleBlu | Liquid Weahter |
| 04:02.48 | PurpleBlu | nice |
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| 04:03.31 | PurpleBlu | no Kmenu? |
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| 04:03.41 | PurpleBlu | or you have to right click on desktop like FLUX? |
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| 04:04.34 | CyberSpy | There's a taskbar |
| 04:04.41 | CyberSpy | it autohides |
| 04:04.45 | PurpleBlu | ohh really |
| 04:04.53 | PurpleBlu | I tink I need auto hid |
| 04:05.13 | PurpleBlu | nice |
| 04:05.20 | PurpleBlu | how long of delay once cursor leaves? |
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| 04:05.47 | sema4 | is it possible to change the default move method to "dont ask just move" (in kde 3.3.2 ) |
| 04:06.24 | CyberSpy | Mine is immediate, but you can make it anything you want |
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| 04:07.07 | PurpleBlu | transparent panel? |
| 04:07.08 | PurpleBlu | too? |
| 04:07.26 | CyberSpy | sema4, I beleive it's in configuration panel of konq isn't it? |
| 04:07.37 | CyberSpy | No, I don't use trans panel |
| 04:07.55 | CyberSpy | parts of the panel look funny to me when you do that |
| 04:07.58 | PurpleBlu | here is some of mine: http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/19719205067.jpg&s=x2 |
| 04:07.59 | CyberSpy | (like the systray) |
| 04:08.33 | PurpleBlu | http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/19719340251.jpg&s=x2 |
| 04:08.40 | CyberSpy | well, I am finishing my icon set tonight, then i am posting on kde-look |
| 04:08.47 | CyberSpy | so it will look totally different |
| 04:08.49 | PurpleBlu | http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/19719392447.jpg&s=x2 |
| 04:09.02 | PurpleBlu | nice |
| 04:09.07 | PurpleBlu | hope to see finish work |
| 04:09.09 | tecnico | Where can I configure mime types for KDE (which file)? I keep getting errors like this in .xseesion-errors: "kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'audio/mp3'" |
| 04:09.14 | CyberSpy | For me, I can't have all that color as a background, it looks too busy |
| 04:09.25 | CyberSpy | I like a cleaner more elegant style |
| 04:09.28 | PurpleBlu | I hear ya, I just like the TUX i think he is called |
| 04:09.36 | CyberSpy | but I usually go dark, this is my first "whitish" theme |
| 04:09.37 | PurpleBlu | how many desktops you run? |
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| 04:09.49 | CyberSpy | on which box? |
| 04:09.57 | PurpleBlu | this one |
| 04:09.57 | CyberSpy | I am on a 24 box network remember |
| 04:10.02 | CyberSpy | 3 monitors |
| 04:10.07 | CyberSpy | 4 on each |
| 04:10.13 | PurpleBlu | 4 is standard? |
| 04:10.27 | *** part/#kde bunta-kun (~boris@m190.net81-66-36.noos.fr) |
| 04:10.27 | CyberSpy | so 12 desktops on this box |
| 04:10.46 | PurpleBlu | wow |
| 04:11.03 | rr72 | u have to much time on your hands |
| 04:11.05 | rr72 | :P |
| 04:11.06 | PurpleBlu | all same background? I put 4 different backround for mine. |
| 04:11.21 | CyberSpy | I had a widescreen background before |
| 04:11.32 | CyberSpy | I am switching now |
| 04:11.41 | sema4 | CyberSpy: I cant find it |
| 04:11.47 | PurpleBlu | SO you seen my desktop, what other eyecandy can I do? |
| 04:12.09 | CyberSpy | PurpleBlu, you can do anything you think of, it's not "Can I", it's what? |
| 04:12.14 | CyberSpy | I told you yesterday |
| 04:12.14 | PurpleBlu | what would be sweet if that water fal pic background was like a video. Or animated GIF. Actual water falling |
| 04:12.15 | CyberSpy | lol |
| 04:12.24 | CyberSpy | You can do that |
| 04:12.26 | CyberSpy | quite easily |
| 04:12.27 | PurpleBlu | for real? |
| 04:12.29 | PurpleBlu | no way |
| 04:12.37 | CyberSpy | that glmatrix can be a motion background |
| 04:12.39 | CyberSpy | so sure |
| 04:12.40 | rr72 | look under wallpaper google search |
| 04:12.42 | CyberSpy | the screensave |
| 04:13.05 | CyberSpy | I know a few people that have glmatrix as a motion background |
| 04:13.23 | CyberSpy | and a few that use xmms/winamp style visuals as a motion background |
| 04:13.27 | rr72 | i just have a plain gecko in my bg |
| 04:13.36 | PurpleBlu | motion background, humm... |
| 04:13.43 | PurpleBlu | glmatrix you say? |
| 04:13.46 | CyberSpy | I like a static background on this monitor |
| 04:14.21 | CyberSpy | sema4, give me a sec |
| 04:15.16 | PurpleBlu | Also Firefox 1.05 for linux? I installed and it still says 1.04 |
| 04:15.34 | CyberSpy | sema4, I think it's control center/kde components/file manager |
| 04:15.37 | CyberSpy | to the best of my memory |
| 04:15.41 | rr72 | maybe u cliked the link to older version |
| 04:15.41 | CyberSpy | but I am not positive |
| 04:16.10 | CyberSpy | I'm on 1.0.4 as well |
| 04:16.15 | CyberSpy | let me check for newer |
| 04:17.23 | PurpleBlu | I swear I downloaded i686 1.05. But didnt know where to install it to. So I put it in desktop. Then I click on properties of old 1.04 and it says its saved in like /usr/shared/.. or something |
| 04:17.30 | CyberSpy | all I see is 1.0.4-4 for FC4 |
| 04:17.50 | CyberSpy | ah, you compiled from source |
| 04:18.02 | CyberSpy | which is different than your FC4 rpm |
| 04:18.15 | sema4 | CyberSpy: I only see the 'Show "Copy To" and .....' in the 'quck copy & move' tab |
| 04:18.29 | CyberSpy | sema4, it's been a while, let me look around |
| 04:18.36 | CyberSpy | I know it's there |
| 04:18.43 | sema4 | CyberSpy: thanks |
| 04:18.47 | CyberSpy | np |
| 04:18.48 | sema4 | CyberSpy: sorry to be a pain |
| 04:18.50 | rr72 | PurpleBlu~ what distro? |
| 04:19.03 | CyberSpy | Your not a pain, it's why we all come here, to help one another |
| 04:19.04 | PurpleBlu | fc4 |
| 04:19.10 | rr72 | oooooo |
| 04:20.05 | PurpleBlu | http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.0.5&os=linux&lang=en-US |
| 04:20.12 | PurpleBlu | pretty sure thats Linux 1.05 firefox |
| 04:20.42 | CyberSpy | after you configured it, did you su -c "make intall" or just make install? |
| 04:20.59 | PurpleBlu | let me thnk |
| 04:21.06 | PurpleBlu | click file |
| 04:21.08 | PurpleBlu | ARK came up |
| 04:21.11 | PurpleBlu | extracted it |
| 04:21.17 | PurpleBlu | then... |
| 04:21.42 | PurpleBlu | then that is where I stopped |
| 04:21.43 | CyberSpy | ./configure --prefix=kde |
| 04:21.51 | CyberSpy | make |
| 04:21.58 | CyberSpy | su -c "make install" |
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| 04:22.05 | CyberSpy | ok, here is what to do |
| 04:22.10 | *** part/#kde bunta-kun (~boris@m190.net81-66-36.noos.fr) |
| 04:22.18 | CyberSpy | go back in the dir where you configured it |
| 04:22.26 | CyberSpy | and type.. |
| 04:22.29 | CyberSpy | make uninstall |
| 04:22.33 | rr72 | i don't trust ark |
| 04:22.40 | rr72 | i man tar it |
| 04:22.57 | CyberSpy | that will remove your install of 1.0.5 |
| 04:23.00 | CyberSpy | then test your firefox |
| 04:23.05 | CyberSpy | it should still be 1.0.4 |
| 04:23.35 | CyberSpy | let me go look at what you got first |
| 04:24.44 | PurpleBlu | this is whats in there |
| 04:24.45 | PurpleBlu | m3@localhost FireFox 1.05]$ ls |
| 04:24.45 | PurpleBlu | browserconfig.properties install.log libsoftokn3.chk registry |
| 04:24.45 | PurpleBlu | chrome libmozjs.so libsoftokn3.so res |
| 04:24.45 | PurpleBlu | components libnspr4.so libssl3.so run-mozilla.sh |
| 04:24.45 | PurpleBlu | defaults libnss3.so libxpcom_compat.so searchplugins |
| 04:24.47 | PurpleBlu | firefox libnssckbi.so libxpcom.so xpicleanup |
| 04:24.49 | PurpleBlu | firefox-bin libplc4.so libxpistub.so |
| 04:24.51 | PurpleBlu | greprefs libplds4.so mozilla-xremote-client |
| 04:24.53 | PurpleBlu | icons libsmime3.so plugins |
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| 04:26.50 | beters | whats up? |
| 04:27.18 | beters | can some help me with an easy way to upgrade kde with RHEL 3? |
| 04:27.43 | beters | im runnong 3.1 now |
| 04:27.56 | beters | and cant seem to type for shit tonight |
| 04:29.55 | CyberSpy | Have you gone to RedHat Enterprise Support? |
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| 04:30.10 | CyberSpy | RHEL is a pay distro, you get support |
| 04:31.12 | CyberSpy | PurpleBlu, did you make uninstall? |
| 04:31.40 | PurpleBlu | not yet |
| 04:31.44 | PurpleBlu | was wondering what to do |
| 04:31.48 | PurpleBlu | there is a firefox-bin |
| 04:31.53 | PurpleBlu | and a firefox script |
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| 04:31.58 | CyberSpy | Ok, make uninstall |
| 04:32.04 | CyberSpy | I will fix this for oyu |
| 04:32.05 | CyberSpy | you* |
| 04:32.13 | PurpleBlu | okay I am in Konsole now |
| 04:32.16 | PurpleBlu | wassup? |
| 04:32.22 | CyberSpy | go into that dir |
| 04:32.33 | CyberSpy | make uninstall |
| 04:32.41 | CyberSpy | unless you did a make clean |
| 04:32.48 | CyberSpy | which I am pretty sure you didn't |
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| 04:33.13 | PurpleBlu | no didnt. Just extracted with ARK |
| 04:33.15 | PurpleBlu | thats it |
| 04:33.25 | CyberSpy | ah, so it's not installed |
| 04:33.27 | CyberSpy | ok |
| 04:33.27 | CyberSpy | good |
| 04:33.29 | CyberSpy | one sec |
| 04:34.04 | PurpleBlu | k |
| 04:34.06 | CyberSpy | looking into devel/testing repo's from the list |
| 04:34.07 | CyberSpy | one sec |
| 04:35.55 | CyberSpy | ok, the latest rpm on Livna and Fedora (this includes testing/development) is 1.0.4-5 are you sure you want 1.0.5? We can do it manually |
| 04:36.18 | CyberSpy | I see no point in gettng 1.0.5 right now, but we can do it |
| 04:36.20 | PurpleBlu | so, we dont want 1.05? |
| 04:36.26 | CyberSpy | It's up to oyu |
| 04:36.27 | CyberSpy | you* |
| 04:36.28 | PurpleBlu | possible bugs or someting? |
| 04:36.31 | CyberSpy | if oyu want it, we'll do it |
| 04:36.35 | CyberSpy | well, that's why it goes in testing |
| 04:36.36 | CyberSpy | first |
| 04:36.40 | CyberSpy | (the rpm) |
| 04:36.48 | PurpleBlu | what is RPM stand for? |
| 04:36.49 | CyberSpy | that's why it takes long sometimes |
| 04:36.55 | CyberSpy | Redhat Package Manager |
| 04:37.16 | CyberSpy | because its tested, then made into an rpm by someone and submitted |
| 04:37.28 | CyberSpy | and it's tested against the distro before going to a stabe release |
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| 04:37.31 | CyberSpy | (the rpm) |
| 04:37.43 | CyberSpy | stable* |
| 04:37.44 | PurpleBlu | screw it then |
| 04:37.50 | PurpleBlu | better wait to make sure its stable |
| 04:37.52 | CyberSpy | It's most likely stable |
| 04:37.56 | PurpleBlu | yeah |
| 04:37.58 | PurpleBlu | Ill wait though |
| 04:38.03 | PurpleBlu | but safe |
| 04:38.06 | CyberSpy | just the repository hasn't had it submitted yet |
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| 04:38.53 | PurpleBlu | okay |
| 04:38.56 | PurpleBlu | I deleted it |
| 04:39.11 | PurpleBlu | just so used to Windows haveing to have lastest updates |
| 04:39.25 | CyberSpy | It's the same thing there too |
| 04:39.42 | CyberSpy | but more often than not, the updates aren't stable there |
| 04:39.46 | CyberSpy | as you know |
| 04:39.58 | PurpleBlu | okay, back to my eye candy desktop. what you think I should do? |
| 04:40.04 | PurpleBlu | you seen screenshot so far |
| 04:40.12 | CyberSpy | icons and window decoration |
| 04:40.19 | CyberSpy | and a color scheme |
| 04:40.34 | CyberSpy | get a color scheme to match your background |
| 04:40.46 | CyberSpy | then pick a window decoration you like |
| 04:40.52 | CyberSpy | then get some icons |
| 04:41.00 | CyberSpy | or make your own icon scheme |
| 04:41.06 | sema4 | CyberSpy: no go? |
| 04:41.11 | CyberSpy | picking and choosing your favorites |
| 04:41.19 | CyberSpy | sema4, no, not yet |
| 04:41.24 | CyberSpy | did you google as well? |
| 04:41.32 | sema4 | will do now |
| 04:44.04 | PurpleBlu | so howcome you have 24 computers? |
| 04:45.31 | CyberSpy | I never said 24, I said my home network is 24 lol |
| 04:46.04 | CyberSpy | I also have boxes co-located and at my office |
| 04:46.20 | PurpleBlu | ohh okay |
| 04:46.27 | PurpleBlu | What Window Decoration you running? |
| 04:46.28 | CyberSpy | but my co-located boxes are being pulled soon |
| 04:46.37 | CyberSpy | it's more cost effective to get my own cogent line |
| 04:46.46 | CyberSpy | now that their prices dropped |
| 04:47.00 | CyberSpy | you can get 100mbit unmetered for under 1000/month |
| 04:47.22 | CyberSpy | co-locating 4 boxes is close to that |
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| 04:53.20 | PurpleBlu | CyberSpy what distros do you use and why? |
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| 04:55.05 | CyberSpy | Fedora, Slackware, FreeBSD, Solaris, Windows. |
| 04:55.14 | CyberSpy | RedHat 9 |
| 04:56.06 | PurpleBlu | all on same box? |
| 04:57.09 | CyberSpy | lol no |
| 04:57.35 | CyberSpy | I'm doing a linuxfromscratch as well |
| 04:57.45 | CyberSpy | But it's taking longer than I have time for |
| 04:58.07 | jjholt | CyberSpy: there are some perl scripts that automate LFS |
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| 04:58.57 | CyberSpy | jjholt, I know, but I want to master it so I can make my own distro, once I am more comfortable with KDE graphics |
| 05:00.06 | CyberSpy | brb doing a quick tech support on the phone (someone needs to patch phpbb to a new version) |
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| 05:10.10 | cs378 | hello |
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| 05:18.56 | tecnico | Does kbuildsycoca look at the /etc/mime.types file ? where does it define mime types ? |
| 05:18.57 | _Bradders | Hi all! |
| 05:19.07 | _Bradders | A nice simple one |
| 05:19.20 | _Bradders | Where is the "taskbar" panel stored? |
| 05:20.16 | sbcl3 | why does kde have a seperate site [branch] for women developers? are they inferior or superior to the male developers? are people afraid they will be left out? |
| 05:21.40 | CyberSpy | sbcl3, send a message and ask |
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| 05:33.25 | illogic-al | _Bradders: why do you want to know? |
| 05:33.43 | _Bradders | Well, I have some entries in that panel I want to transfer to another machine |
| 05:34.33 | illogic-al | then i don't think the "taskbar" is what you're looking for. |
| 05:34.50 | illogic-al | The taskbar is the thing that has all you running applications listed |
| 05:35.03 | illogic-al | your menu maybe is what you're looking for? |
| 05:35.05 | _Bradders | Ok, its the panel at the bottom of the screen |
| 05:35.13 | illogic-al | gotcha |
| 05:35.20 | illogic-al | ~/.local/ |
| 05:35.24 | _Bradders | Doh! |
| 05:35.27 | _Bradders | Thanks :) |
| 05:35.28 | illogic-al | somewhere down there |
| 05:35.32 | _Bradders | Still getting my head around it |
| 05:36.05 | illogic-al | that's where links to custom menu entries are. the actual configuration for that is in ... |
| 05:36.22 | illogic-al | ~//.config/menus |
| 05:39.24 | PurpleBlu | CyberSpy, could you make your own LiveCD like DSL? |
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| 05:42.13 | illogic-al | um. pardon me. but you wouldn't happen to be referring to dick sucking lips... would you? |
| 05:42.35 | josue | hi people i have a litle problem i can't listen the midi |
| 05:42.52 | _Bradders | illogic-alL found! Thanks |
| 05:42.55 | josue | who wants to help me? |
| 05:43.47 | josue | i have SBlive! |
| 05:46.44 | illogic-al | hi josue. This is the KDE IRC channel where we strive to provide the best in online, interactive technical aid. Unfortunately the "SBlive!" falls outside the scope of topics our dedicated handle. |
| 05:47.25 | illogic-al | Maybe #alsa or another sound related channel will be of some help to you. Thank you and have a nice day. |
| 05:48.12 | josue | the cannel? ok i try thanks |
| 05:48.32 | josue | bye bye |
| 05:49.26 | josue | illogic-al: the channel seem to freenode? |
| 05:50.10 | illogic-al | Feel free to come back with kde related queries at any juncture once you issue has been resolved. Midi not working specifically in some KDE program for instance. Good day. |
| 05:50.41 | illogic-al | Pardon me josue? |
| 05:50.49 | _Bradders | Bye! |
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| 05:55.23 | tecnico | anybody using KDE 3.4 or 3.3 with kernel-2.6.12 ? |
| 05:56.02 | illogic-al | I do not. |
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| 05:56.14 | illogic-al | What problems are you experiencing? |
| 05:57.51 | floyd_n_milan | i am |
| 05:59.09 | illogic-al | tecnico: There is someone who responded to your query. |
| 05:59.31 | tecnico | floyd_n_milan: I was asking because I just heard from another person having the exact same problem as mine .. he says that it just happens with the new kernel |
| 06:00.00 | floyd_n_milan | tecnico: what problem? |
| 06:00.12 | floyd_n_milan | tecnico: i am facing no problems |
| 06:00.15 | tecnico | I was using 2.6.11 and KDE 3.3 fine.. then I rebooted with 2.6.12 and tried using KDE 3.4 and I get tons of "undefined mimetype" erros in ~/.xsession-errors |
| 06:00.43 | tecnico | floyd_n_milan: in bootsplash, it gets hung in "initializing system services" |
| 06:01.03 | illogic-al | tecnico: This would be due no doubt to your migration from 3.3 to 3.4. |
| 06:01.04 | tecnico | floyd_n_milan: the file manager doesn't respond .. it takes over 10 mins. to respond. |
| 06:01.36 | tecnico | illogic-al: I tried migrating.. and I tried wiping all config and start fresh. I erased all relevan /tmp/ files too |
| 06:01.49 | illogic-al | tecnico: Have you tried moving the current /home/user/.kde directory out of the way and login in again? |
| 06:02.01 | floyd_n_milan | i had it hang on "Initializing system services" only because my /tmp was full! |
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| 06:02.35 | tecnico | mmm.. I have enought space in /tmp |
| 06:02.54 | tecnico | illogic-al: floyd_n_milan : <nicoal> is the other person having this problem |
| 06:02.56 | illogic-al | How much space is "enough"? |
| 06:03.13 | tecnico | I have 4 GB |
| 06:03.40 | nicoal | I wiped out /tmp and /var/tmp too... along with the ~/.kde/config/sessions- still no dice |
| 06:03.49 | illogic-al | It might also be prudent to check and see if you have write permissions on the related /tmp directories |
| 06:03.50 | floyd_n_milan | my /tmp is 1GB and it got filled up because of some improper shutdowns |
| 06:04.13 | floyd_n_milan | im wondering about the mimetype errors |
| 06:04.22 | illogic-al | tecnico: create a new user and try with that one to see if the problem persists. |
| 06:04.46 | tecnico | illogic-al: when I wipe the relevant files in /tmp , kde creates directories there.. with permissions on my username |
| 06:05.32 | tecnico | illogic-al: I wiped everyting: ~/.kde (3.3 and 3.4) .. also .dmrc and anything related to kde |
| 06:06.30 | illogic-al | tecnico: I understand that but it's possible that something else is causing problems. Creating a new user is a quick, relatively painless way of testing to see if this is true. |
| 06:06.41 | tecnico | ok.. I'll try |
| 06:06.53 | illogic-al | Thank you. |
| 06:09.20 | illogic-al | tecnico and nicoal, If that does not work please refer to this webpage: http://www.webservertalk.com/archive99-2004-4-201546.html |
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| 06:10.50 | nicoal | illogic-al, I thought it was due to the loopback device too- but it's up, and route shows it's correct |
| 06:12.41 | nicoal | everything works fine in 2.6.11 though |
| 06:12.45 | illogic-al | nicoal, does this also happen for a new user? |
| 06:13.08 | nicoal | I'm not in .12 atm- I'll have to switch over |
| 06:14.09 | illogic-al | Oh. You've actually gone back down to .11. No need to mess with a working formula. If tecnico returns we will see. |
| 06:17.02 | nicoal | same thing on my other machine- I'll try the new user there |
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| 06:21.54 | nicoal | illogic-al, same game |
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| 06:22.42 | tecnico | sorry... I got busy here and I can really reboot for now to an older kernel... will try later.. |
| 06:22.46 | tecnico | can't |
| 06:23.28 | illogic-al | Well this is the first I've heard of this problem. I'd report it to the kde-quality mailing list to see if anything is known about and and hope for a resolution. |
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| 06:25.36 | tecnico | illogic-al: tailing on ~/.xsession-errors when starting kde, the hung is after the line "startkde: Starting up..." and before "kbuildsycoca running... |
| 06:26.19 | tecnico | illogic-al: and there are tons of errors like this one: "kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/gvim.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/htmlh'" |
| 06:27.23 | illogic-al | Try running kbuildsycoca manually. |
| 06:28.11 | tecnico | I did , kbuildsycoca --noincremental I got the same errors |
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| 06:29.08 | illogic-al | Perplexing. |
| 06:29.41 | nicoal | tecnico, does it eventually log in for you? my new user gets the desktop eventually, but trying the k menu hangs the desktop |
| 06:29.53 | tecnico | nicoal: yes it does.. after 10 - 15 min. |
| 06:30.12 | tecnico | nicoal: but don't even try to open the file explorer 'cause it'll be another 20 min. |
| 06:30.26 | nicoal | there's no process at 99% cpu either |
| 06:30.42 | tecnico | top shows my cpu at %0.16 |
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| 06:36.36 | ltRRR | Why am i getting a kdeinit error when i try to boot? |
| 06:36.37 | ltRRR | firs time ever. |
| 06:37.03 | ltRRR | Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation." |
| 06:37.09 | illogic-al | ltRRR: There are many possible reasons for kdeinit errors. |
| 06:37.43 | illogic-al | ltRRR: what does your ~/.xsession-errors files say? |
| 06:37.57 | ltRRR | im in windows now, ill browse hold on |
| 06:38.09 | nicoal | well- I guess I have to give up for tonight- thanks illogic-al, and good luck tecnico |
| 06:38.33 | ltRRR | where can i find it illogical |
| 06:38.37 | tecnico | good luck to you too :) |
| 06:38.40 | illogic-al | It was a pleasure attempting to be of service :-D |
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| 06:39.26 | ltRRR | illogic-al: where can i find it? |
| 06:39.37 | ltRRR | im browsing the drive via explore2fs in windows |
| 06:39.42 | kendrick | hrm |
| 06:39.47 | kendrick | bugs.kde.org isn't responding |
| 06:40.35 | ltRRR | /etc/X11/xim: Checking wether an input method should be started. |
| 06:40.37 | ltRRR | INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). |
| 06:40.38 | ltRRR | Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... |
| 06:40.40 | ltRRR | There is no default input method for the current locale. |
| 06:40.41 | ltRRR | startkde: Starting up... |
| 06:40.43 | ltRRR | kdeinit: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/kde3/lib/libkparts.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument |
| 06:40.43 | ltRRR | fuck |
| 06:40.46 | ltRRR | startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. |
| 06:40.48 | ltRRR | Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory |
| 06:40.50 | ltRRR | /opt/kde3/bin/kdeinit: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/kde3/lib/libkparts.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument |
| 06:40.53 | ltRRR | received an error processing data from the DCOP server! |
| 06:40.59 | ltRRR | sorry thought it was smaller |
| 06:41.41 | illogic-al | ltRRR, does /opt/kde3/lib/libkparts.so.2 exist? |
| 06:41.56 | ltRRR | ill check |
| 06:42.48 | ltRRR | no |
| 06:42.50 | ltRRR | dont think so |
| 06:43.39 | illogic-al | Well if I had to take a guess, I would say that this is the reason for kdeinit failing. |
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| 06:43.49 | ltRRR | k |
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| 06:43.54 | ltRRR | how do i fix this then? |
| 06:44.06 | illogic-al | reinstall |
| 06:44.08 | gregday | can anyone tell me how to get Konqi to stop trying to call libkmozilla.la everytime i open it? |
| 06:44.09 | ltRRR | ... |
| 06:44.13 | ltRRR | reinstall linux? |
| 06:44.14 | illogic-al | how did you install KDE? |
| 06:44.17 | ltRRR | suse |
| 06:44.20 | ltRRR | im a linux n00b |
| 06:44.24 | illogic-al | aha |
| 06:45.23 | illogic-al | Well, you need to a) figure out how to install software in SuSE and then b) reinstall the KDE package(s). Start with kdebase and kdelibs |
| 06:45.38 | illogic-al | #suse may be of some help to you there. |
| 06:45.51 | ltRRR | k thanks |
| 06:45.53 | ltRRR | ill try myself |
| 06:45.54 | ltRRR | later |
| 06:46.15 | illogic-al | I ... am going to bed. Goodnight #kde. |
| 06:48.03 | tecnico | tnx illogic-al . g'night |
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| 07:51.00 | rams | hi |
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| 07:51.53 | rams | i've just installed kde on a fresh installed and updated archlinux. but there are absolutly no icons on my desktop and in my panel.. does anybody know how i can fix that ? |
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| 07:53.56 | sredna | rams: Try running 'kbuildsycoca --noincremental' |
| 07:54.53 | rams | while running kde or on the console ? |
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| 07:56.07 | sredna | While running kde is finr, rams |
| 07:56.22 | rams | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/kuickshow.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-psd' .. and so on... there are really a lot of such warnings.. |
| 07:58.33 | rams | or let me ask you something diffrent: in which kdepackage are the icons stored ? i downloaded kde over night and maybe there was an error or something |
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| 08:41.32 | Quinn_Storm | hey, quick question. I run mostly up-to-date kde svn, and after a recent compile, arts seems to be truncating the last second or so of ogg vorbis output. Is this a known bug? Do I need to upgrade some other library? |
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| 09:08.33 | rockerrock | i need help |
| 09:08.38 | rockerrock | anyone here? |
| 09:08.43 | rams | yes i am |
| 09:09.00 | rockerrock | ok, i manually rebooted my machine, (press restart button |
| 09:09.18 | rockerrock | and now KDE wont load up my previous session under my rockerrock username |
| 09:09.32 | rockerrock | the screen flashes then goes back to the login screen |
| 09:09.44 | rams | uhrm evil |
| 09:09.52 | rockerrock | how do i clear the previous session? |
| 09:10.01 | rams | maybe you've got broken permissions ? |
| 09:10.02 | rockerrock | and start with a new one |
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| 09:10.11 | rockerrock | ill check. |
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| 09:10.31 | rams | i'll be back in 2 minutes.. have to boot my new kernel |
| 09:10.32 | rams | brb |
| 09:10.38 | sredna | rockerrock: Kde can't save your session if you dont' shut it down properly. |
| 09:10.41 | rockerrock | i recently added a permission for "user" to mount and unmount cd roms |
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| 09:10.53 | sredna | rockerrock: If you can log in, be happy. |
| 09:11.01 | rockerrock | i can log under root |
| 09:11.07 | sredna | As a user |
| 09:11.07 | rockerrock | not my rockerrock username |
| 09:11.29 | rockerrock | i just need to clear a previus session to start a new session for that user |
| 09:11.34 | rockerrock | i tried clearing my tmp dir |
| 09:11.39 | sredna | Try renaming your ~/.kde directory, or move all the session config away |
| 09:12.35 | sredna | In ~/.kde/share/config/session |
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| 09:12.56 | rockerrock | ok ill try now |
| 09:12.59 | rockerrock | brb |
| 09:13.02 | rockerrock | thanks! |
| 09:13.21 | rockerrock | nope.. |
| 09:13.24 | rockerrock | hmm |
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| 09:17.22 | Subvertir | anyone know how I can make kdm restart forever whenever someone logs out? |
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| 09:17.43 | KonvIRC | crap, nope |
| 09:17.53 | Subvertir | for all eternity |
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| 09:18.34 | Rockerrock | back |
| 09:18.47 | Rockerrock | nope, clearing the shared folder |
| 09:18.50 | Rockerrock | didnt work |
| 09:19.03 | Rockerrock | anyone knwo how to clear a previus session |
| 09:19.06 | Rockerrock | know* |
| 09:19.16 | Rockerrock | from a user |
| 09:20.04 | PhilRod | Subvertir: you mean put it in /etc/inittab? |
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| 09:20.57 | Rockerrock | no |
| 09:21.00 | Rockerrock | okay |
| 09:21.04 | Rockerrock | i lost power |
| 09:21.13 | Rockerrock | and when i start up my machine again |
| 09:21.22 | Rockerrock | i try to login as rockerrock, its a user account |
| 09:21.47 | Rockerrock | the screen flichers |
| 09:21.50 | Rockerrock | flickers |
| 09:21.57 | Rockerrock | then it goes back to to the login screen |
| 09:22.06 | Rockerrock | its trying to resume a previus session |
| 09:22.24 | Rockerrock | i need to clear that session and start a new one |
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| 09:23.29 | Rockerrock | anyone know how to clear a previus session |
| 09:23.43 | pyrosim | do you have any other session managers installed? |
| 09:23.55 | Rockerrock | just the default ones |
| 09:24.02 | Rockerrock | you mean like other gui's? |
| 09:24.08 | pyrosim | try logging into gnome with that account |
| 09:24.15 | Rockerrock | this is a fresh install of suse |
| 09:24.18 | Rockerrock | w/ kde |
| 09:24.31 | PhilRod | can you be very precise about what you mean by a "session"? (there's a 'KDE' meaning, and some other meanings, so I'm not sure which meaning you're using) |
| 09:24.35 | pyrosim | and accessing the (k)control center |
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| 09:25.00 | Rockerrock | session |
| 09:25.06 | Rockerrock | like when you end your session |
| 09:25.11 | Rockerrock | and it resumes it |
| 09:25.25 | Rockerrock | when you first boot KDE it says as the last icon "restoring session" |
| 09:25.27 | Subvertir | PhilRod, I was thinking more along the lines of TerminateServer=true |
| 09:25.40 | Subvertir | which for inexplicable purposes make kdm behave as I want it to |
| 09:25.50 | pyrosim | from the KDE components tab go to session manager |
| 09:25.53 | Rockerrock | then it opens the programs you had open when you end session |
| 09:26.07 | pyrosim | and switch that to "Start with an empty session" |
| 09:26.14 | pyrosim | then go back to kde |
| 09:26.33 | Rockerrock | ok ill try that |
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| 09:26.41 | pyrosim | should work |
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| 09:28.08 | Rockerrock | installing gnome now |
| 09:28.29 | Rockerrock | i got the suse 9.1 cd |
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| 09:29.25 | benJIman | rockerrock: you know the suse 9.3 cds are available? |
| 09:29.36 | Rockerrock | free or a price? |
| 09:29.42 | benJIman | free |
| 09:29.52 | Rockerrock | but i dont wantr to do a fresh install.. |
| 09:29.59 | Rockerrock | is there a way to upgrade? |
| 09:30.04 | benJIman | yeah |
| 09:30.14 | Rockerrock | yast cd upgrade right |
| 09:30.30 | benJIman | you need to boot off the cd, then choose update when the installation starts |
| 09:30.41 | Rockerrock | whats so new about 9.3 over 9.1? |
| 09:31.11 | Rockerrock | and will my 9.1 apps work |
| 09:31.14 | pyrosim | yes |
| 09:31.17 | pyrosim | of course |
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| 09:31.21 | Rockerrock | awesome |
| 09:31.29 | Rockerrock | ill try to find a DVD version |
| 09:31.33 | benJIman | since 9.1, hmm xfree86 -> xorg, udev, YOU uses deltarpms binarydiffs, kernel 2.6.11.4, kde 3.4.0 etc in 9.3 |
| 09:32.06 | Rockerrock | i just migrated from windows =D |
| 09:32.10 | Rockerrock | i LOVE linux |
| 09:32.22 | Rockerrock | now just getting cedega to work =P |
| 09:33.10 | pyrosim | i'm a slackware guy myself, but SuSe is ok. |
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| 09:41.59 | CyberSpy | Morning all |
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| 10:19.46 | Aardwolf | hi, how can I configure kmail so that when I reply, the email address that I received the mail at is automatically filled in the "From:" box? |
| 10:23.28 | lauri | mine does that |
| 10:23.33 | lauri | isn't that the default? |
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| 10:23.40 | Aardwolf | appearantly not :s |
| 10:24.06 | Aardwolf | I have multiple email accounts |
| 10:24.22 | PhilRod | do you have identities for all of them set up in kmail? |
| 10:24.34 | lauri | oh that could be it |
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| 10:26.54 | Aardwolf | no I haven't, if I make identities for each of them, will they still all appear in the same inbox? |
| 10:28.21 | PhilRod | yes |
| 10:28.27 | lauri | yes, identities and send/recieve accounts are entirely independent |
| 10:29.14 | Aardwolf | so it'll auto choose an identity for the From: field, based in the receiving account that received the email? |
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| 10:33.38 | lauri | yes |
| 10:33.46 | lauri | one for each account |
| 10:34.07 | lauri | Aardwolf: that's how mine works (plus I can change it if I really want to reply with a different identity) |
| 10:35.03 | Aardwolf | yep it works for me to, smart, thanks :) |
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| 10:38.13 | thiago | lauri: hello |
| 10:38.28 | thiago | lauri: got an answer from kopete concerning the docs & entities |
| 10:38.55 | lauri | oh hey thiago I meant to go hunt them down |
| 10:39.02 | lauri | what was the decision? |
| 10:39.19 | thiago | kopete 0.11 (the next version) will require kdelibs 3.4 |
| 10:39.45 | lauri | ok, cool, I'll make sure the doc stays safe for that then, and put you on the 'after 3.5' list :) |
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| 10:52.02 | Aardwolf | anyone ever had the weird problem in KDE where all titlebars of windows disappera, some letters get a flashy red or green background, and you can't type again in some windows? |
| 10:52.57 | Kibou | yes |
| 10:53.27 | Aardwolf | it happens if I choose the "Plastik" theme |
| 10:54.03 | Kibou | only happened to me when I was using the opera browser |
| 10:54.19 | Kibou | apparently there was something wrong with my qt package |
| 10:54.35 | Kibou | which made kwin crash |
| 10:54.59 | Aardwolf | It happened to everything here, I had to logout and back in, which is why I went offline here |
| 10:55.33 | Kibou | yea.. in my case it probably just was a distro specific problem |
| 10:55.46 | Aardwolf | which distro? |
| 10:55.54 | Kibou | archlinux |
| 10:55.59 | Aardwolf | ah, me too |
| 10:56.05 | Aardwolf | must be a typical archlinux problem then |
| 10:56.37 | Kibou | hmm.. yea |
| 10:56.53 | Kibou | i reverted to qt-3.3.4-7 and it works fine so far |
| 10:57.32 | Aardwolf | maybe I'll wait for a newer version of qt and use another theme for now |
| 10:59.26 | _RADIOhead | anyone knows why is that happening with quanta |
| 10:59.27 | _RADIOhead | no debugging symbols found) |
| 10:59.27 | _RADIOhead | Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". |
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| 11:02.05 | athlon | how do I bind multimedia keys to turn volume up and down and toggle mute on/off ? Control Panel -> Regional Setting -> Keyboard Shortcuts doesnt have these options |
| 11:02.35 | PhilRod | athlon: see the user guide |
| 11:02.36 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 11:02.36 | apt | rumour has it, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 11:02.49 | PhilRod | it's there, under "multimedia keys" something-or-other |
| 11:02.57 | athlon | okay, thanks |
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| 11:03.40 | athlon | strangely enough.... Sound & Multimedia is listed in ToC but not clickable |
| 11:03.55 | PhilRod | toc of the user guide |
| 11:03.57 | PhilRod | ? |
| 11:04.14 | athlon | in fact the page is blank |
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| 11:04.26 | athlon | just the title : Sound & Multimedia but nothing else in it |
| 11:04.29 | athlon | PhilRod, yes |
| 11:04.39 | athlon | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/kcontrol-sound-and-multimedia.html |
| 11:05.20 | PhilRod | do you mean that the entry for "sound & mm" on the front page isn't clickable? |
| 11:05.37 | PhilRod | it's a link, but gets me to a (nearly) blank page |
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| 11:05.51 | PhilRod | well, I mean, the page doesn't yet have content |
| 11:05.53 | athlon | thats it |
| 11:06.55 | PhilRod | no-one's written that section yet - if you'd like to, get in touch with kde-doc-english@kde.org |
| 11:07.03 | PhilRod | but there's a different page about multimedia keys |
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| 11:11.24 | quentin_ | hello! i've compiled qtiplot which uses qt. unfortunately the gui is not with the default (plastik) style but has it'S own unchangeable theme. |
| 11:12.02 | PhilRod | you can use qtconfig to change it, I think |
| 11:12.04 | nambuls | quentin_> If it's use Qt and not kde, then the app got the default qt theme |
| 11:12.07 | quentin_ | is it possible to change that in the codes or is it a fix own theme? |
| 11:13.16 | quentin_ | qtconfg? don'T have that! nambuls, where is the qt-theme set?? |
| 11:14.06 | benJIman | quentin_: try /usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtconfig incase it's not in your path |
| 11:14.29 | slubman | quentin_> Qt themes ares et with qtconfig, in appearance tab |
| 11:14.33 | benJIman | or whever $QTDIR is |
| 11:14.44 | quentin_ | ah, ok! |
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| 11:15.43 | quentin_ | and where are the configs saved (for a backup) |
| 11:15.51 | benJIman | ~/.qt |
| 11:15.51 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, /.qt is an option, not something that Qt needs to live |
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| 11:21.43 | quentin_ | ok, it has the windows-theme by default and i can't change it with qtconfig |
| 11:24.08 | quentin_ | it looks more like this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/m1/m14826-1.png then like that http://www.kde-apps.org/content/pre2/14826-2.jpg |
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| 11:27.21 | quentin_ | oooh! i can set the theme in the qtiplot-options! lol! |
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| 11:31.21 | hagbard_ | hi |
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| 11:31.34 | hagbard_ | someone knows why kde konsole does not save my settigns after i've altered them? |
| 11:31.38 | kikov | hello... does anybody know how to disable failsafe session in kdm? |
| 11:31.47 | kikov | the manual seems a bit outdated |
| 11:31.56 | kikov | kde 3.4 |
| 11:31.59 | pj-og | Hi! some time ago, the following happened with my KDE 3.3 desktop (on debian sarge): the wallpaper went black - I cannot use "lock session" - I cannot use "run command". I do not want to restart the session (because of running programs), but how can I lock it? I want to go somewhere and not leave a running desktop to my colleagues. |
| 11:34.34 | Aardwolf | does KDE support flashing window buttons in the taskbar, and "minimize to tray"? |
| 11:34.51 | PhilRod | yes and yes |
| 11:34.58 | PhilRod | for the second, use ksystraycmd |
| 11:35.05 | PhilRod | see user guide "advanced window management" |
| 11:35.07 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 11:35.07 | apt | from memory, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 11:35.09 | PhilRod | there ^^^ |
| 11:35.11 | Aardwolf | hmm what could be the reason that almost no IM program for linux actually uses those? |
| 11:35.20 | PhilRod | koepte does |
| 11:35.23 | PhilRod | kopete* |
| 11:35.47 | Aardwolf | in the settings of Mercury there is an option "flashing taskbar (windows only)" |
| 11:35.54 | Aardwolf | and indeed, the flashing isn't working in linux :( |
| 11:36.15 | PhilRod | I'm not sure how flashing taskbar is implemented in KDE - you'd have to ask in #kde-devel |
| 11:36.30 | PhilRod | I've never heard of mercury, so I have no idea why it doesn't use KDE features |
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| 11:38.37 | hagbard_ | someone knows why kde konsole does not save my settigns after i've altered them? |
| 11:39.10 | termo | because you haven't clicked "save settings"? |
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| 11:41.37 | koral | hi all! |
| 11:41.37 | koral | a quick poll: if you wanted to play 'sudoku' in kde, would you like to play 'ksudoku' or 'kudoku' ?? |
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| 11:44.28 | koral | (I'm only choosing the public name for the project.. it it's better 'ksudoku' or 'kudoku'. feel free to tell your preference!) |
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| 11:50.07 | bluelightning | koral: how about sudoKu ? |
| 11:50.39 | koral | bluelightning: sounds very good, but I'm not sure about trademarks |
| 11:51.20 | bluelightning | hmm... I would imagine putting a K in front is unlikely to save you from trademark problems though |
| 11:51.32 | PhilRod | every newspaper in the UK prints sudoku - I would imagine it's not a trademark |
| 11:51.52 | bluelightning | PhilRod: they might have licensed it |
| 11:52.55 | PhilRod | oh, I'm wrong, according to wikipedia: "Nikoli still holds the trademark for the name Sudoku; other publications (at least in Japan) use other names." |
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| 12:08.58 | CapNemo | hello :) is there a way to force konqueror to load every image ? |
| 12:09.15 | PhilRod | doesn't it do that already? |
| 12:10.19 | CapNemo | i believed so also ... but sometimes it avoid randomly to load some images |
| 12:11.06 | CapNemo | http://www.nemoworld.info/drupal/?q=image/tid/10&from=4 <-- example here i see 2 images only and if i reload i have 2 different ones |
| 12:12.03 | CapNemo | its like konqueror wanted to go to fast to display everything |
| 12:12.12 | CapNemo | and give up after |
| 12:12.28 | lauri | heh, and now the database error |
| 12:12.44 | CapNemo | i have the same behavior on firefox only if i active the pipelining |
| 12:12.45 | lauri | which probably explains what the problem is |
| 12:12.52 | lauri | Warning: mysql_connect(): User nemoworl@ has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /home/nemoworl/www/drupal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 31 |
| 12:12.53 | lauri | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.19 | PhilRod | CapNemo: something weird is going on with that site - if I reload, a *different* combination of the four images appears |
| 12:13.31 | CapNemo | exactly |
| 12:13.46 | CapNemo | i dont have this behavior with ff |
| 12:15.01 | lauri | I've never seen konqueror do that, and on pages with a whole lot more images |
| 12:15.15 | lauri | there's definitely something very odd about that page |
| 12:15.26 | PhilRod | pj-og: kdesktop crashed. Run that |
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| 12:16.10 | CapNemo | lauri: yup very curious |
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| 12:16.38 | lauri | it's certainly being entirely dynamically generated, if you look at the source it's writing in your sessid into every link |
| 12:16.45 | lauri | that's gotta be way efficient :) |
| 12:17.24 | CapNemo | bah its my website .. so i try to render it nice for everybody including konq ;) |
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| 12:54.03 | Darkintent | exscuse me does anyone here happen to have the ebuild for the metal4kde window decoration? |
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| 13:02.44 | Jefo | is there a notebook-plugin for korganizer? |
| 13:04.31 | Jefo | so i can write some notes in my organizer |
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| 13:06.43 | Denisbr | Good Morning, my kongueror is background black in file manager, where I edit this? |
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| 13:09.30 | huhmz | does Kde exec something when a session starts? i need to add xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap somewhere |
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| 13:09.39 | StarScream | hi what do i need to enable in iptables to allow me to type smb:// into konq and it bring up the local networks |
| 13:09.52 | benJIman | huhmz ~/.kde/Autostart |
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| 13:10.06 | StarScream | i've done tcp and udp for ports 445, 137,138,139 |
| 13:10.15 | huhmz | benjiman: *pet* |
| 13:10.16 | StarScream | as well as 7741 for lisa |
| 13:10.40 | Blissex | StarScream: that should be fine. It takes a bit of time for the browse list to appear... |
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| 13:11.22 | StarScream | Blissex: erm...can you define a bit of time...so i know when i'm waiting too long |
| 13:11.43 | StarScream | i can access smb://192.168.0.1 for example |
| 13:11.45 | Blissex | StarScream: you also need boradcasts to got through however they usually are not blocked. |
| 13:12.15 | Blissex | StarScream: so it is either broadcasts (unlikely) or waiting 5-10-20 minutes sometimes. |
| 13:12.18 | huhmz | benjiman: i want to add it globally though |
| 13:12.22 | StarScream | Blissex: hmm how do i enable broadcasts..just to be on the safe side? which port/protocol is that |
| 13:12.37 | Blissex | StarScream: why not look at the system log to see what gets blocked? |
| 13:12.51 | StarScream | Blissex: i can't find where it is getting logged :) |
| 13:14.45 | Blissex | StarScream: brodcasts are all packets to 255.255.255.255/32 |
| 13:16.54 | benJIman | huhmz: you can put it in the global xinitrc whever your distro has that, or edit whatever the skeleton for the kde config is |
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| 13:17.47 | StarScream | Blissex: ah...i think i have the problem logged. Not sure what i need to do though . Would you mind looking at the error http://pastebin.com/315552 |
| 13:17.48 | huhmz | im pretty sure .xinitrc only get executed if using xinit (startx) and not kdm |
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| 13:18.08 | vbarba | eps! |
| 13:20.31 | Blissex | StarScream: thats actually more than one error. The firewall however seems to be blocking something, probably broadcasts. |
| 13:20.51 | StarScream | Blissex: k, thanks. |
| 13:21.41 | Blissex | StarScream: the other thing is that there is a message for UDP packets on 137, but it is not clear if that is because the packet has been blocked or accepted. |
| 13:22.18 | StarScream | Blissex: it should be accepted, i have a rule for that. I think i'll just have another go from scratch :) |
| 13:22.29 | Blissex | StarScream: perhaps you have written the firewall configuration yourself, and that you should not have done. |
| 13:23.03 | StarScream | Blissex: nah, i tried to cheat and modify one made by Kmyfirewall... :) |
| 13:23.20 | Blissex | StarScream: for example, the ports have to be open outgoing not just incoming, as NetBIOS is basically a peer-to-peer network, especially as to the name resolution. |
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| 13:23.36 | StarScream | yeh, i had both incoming and outgoing |
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| 13:23.53 | StarScream | i think it was blocking broadcasts like you said |
| 13:24.02 | StarScream | i'll make my own and see how that works out.. |
| 13:24.14 | Blissex | StarScream: then does this mean the packet is accepted: «KMF: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:0d:87:69:fa:0a:00:40:f4:48:bf:83:08:00 SRC=192.168.0.1 DST=192.168.0.4 LEN=90 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=2772 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=40634 LEN=70» |
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| 13:25.18 | Blissex | StarScream: thats a packet from port 137 of 192.168.01 to 192.168.0.4. |
| 13:25.48 | StarScream | hmm i'll have a look. but i'm pretty sure it should be open brb |
| 13:29.05 | Blissex | StarScream: uhm, because there are 3 possible interpretation of ''incoming'' and ''outgoing'': incoming and outgoing both with destination 137, or both with source 137, or with 137 as either the source or destination port. |
| 13:29.54 | StarScream | that was with --dport 137 i've got the input and output chains |
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| 13:32.55 | StarScream | Blissex: thats in table filter |
| 13:33.03 | StarScream | maybe that should just be input |
| 13:33.03 | Blissex | StarScream: well, surprisingly :-) servers bind to port 137 and send _from_ that port. :-) |
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| 13:34.18 | Blissex | StarScream: there are lots of firewall building utils like KMyFirewall, perhaps using one that just does the right thing for NetBIOS/SMB might be a good idea... |
| 13:34.38 | StarScream | Blissex: hmm good point :) |
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| 13:38.31 | huhmz | I have a question about conqueror, is there any equivilent to Firefox's "extensions" ? I refuse to go use the intarweb without flashblock/adblock |
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| 13:47.20 | ruppe | i have an annoying problem with konqueror, someone plz give some support on this, can't find any solution anywhere: when opening a folder, i get the "open with" dialog (if i associate konqueror with folders, new konquerors are started instead of opening the folders in the same instance of konqueror |
| 13:49.29 | Blissex | huhmz: there are no extension like in Firefox, because Firefox is in effect mostly written in a scriptin language, but Konqueror is not. |
| 13:49.39 | Blissex | huhmz: so Konqueror is a faster but less flexible. |
| 13:50.03 | Blissex | huhmz: however the correct way to handle Flash and ads is privoxy. http://WWW.Privoxy.org/ |
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| 13:50.59 | huhmz | looks intresting |
| 13:50.59 | Blissex | ruppe: you must have done something very funny to achieve that... |
| 13:51.44 | ruppe | :/ |
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| 13:53.47 | ruppe | is there a way to restore the konqueror configurations to the defaults then? |
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| 13:57.48 | ralf | ruppe: rm konq conffile |
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| 14:03.02 | katz_ | Blissex: Heya :) |
| 14:03.22 | Blissex | hi! |
| 14:03.37 | katz_ | Blissex: yeah it seemed sort of inefficient and reminded me of splitting hairs for firefox to implement its own adblocking independent of any other web browser |
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| 14:09.33 | ardent11 | when is kde 3.5 due for release? |
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| 14:16.32 | StarScream | Blissex: hey you wanna know what it was |
| 14:16.45 | grepper | sometime after the release schedule is updated |
| 14:16.53 | StarScream | Blissex: i had a rule in there for stopping ip spoofing of the local address |
| 14:17.14 | StarScream | Blissex: turned that rule off and it works fine :)... |
| 14:18.34 | Blissex | StarScream: bah! |
| 14:19.37 | StarScream | i think lisa or samba or something must be spoofing the ip address to do something..i find it odd though. but it's definately that rule...i tried the other firewall rules that wouldn't work. removed that and they work too |
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| 14:25.33 | bluesceada | ardent11: i dont know, but i dont think there will be a 3.5 .. there will be 4.0 .. because of lots of new stuff with the new qt |
| 14:26.01 | elirips | hello. does someone know what command is used to tell konqueror to open an url in a new tab? like 'mozilla -remote 'openURL(URL,new-tab)' for mozilla. |
| 14:28.25 | mobtek | bluesceada: there will be a 3.5 iirc |
| 14:28.47 | bluesceada | hm oh ok |
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| 14:32.11 | ruppe | ralf: the whole ~/.kde3.3/share/apps/konqueror directory or the ones in ~/.kde3.3/share/config ? |
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| 14:32.43 | ralf | try one at time |
| 14:32.47 | ralf | the latter first |
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| 14:39.09 | manolista | are avaiable any version of KDE compatible with QT4? |
| 14:39.18 | manolista | sorry my poor english |
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| 14:40.33 | aji-dahaka | manolista: not released yet. kde4 will be built on qt4. |
| 14:40.35 | Nod51 | is there any way to have konsole tabs named the host I am connected to over ssh? |
| 14:40.57 | aji-dahaka | Nod51: you can rename the konsole tabs freely. |
| 14:41.29 | Nod51 | yeah I do that already, just seeing if there was some sort of place to name tab %HOST or somthing... |
| 14:43.44 | manolista | buff, kde4 is so far |
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| 14:47.24 | Nod51 | aji-dahaka: thanks, I tried to look for a bit and I was just checking if anyone knew off the top of their head how to do it. |
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| 14:49.21 | lauri | there's actually a ktip that says how to do that |
| 14:49.28 | aji-dahaka | Nod51: dcop konsole-1786 session-8 sessionName is where my current test term is |
| 14:49.46 | lauri | ...that you can let Konsole set the current directory as the window title? For Bash, put 'export PS1=$PS1"\[\e]0;\H:\w\a\]"' in your ~/.bashrc . |
| 14:50.00 | lauri | ...that you can let Konsole set the current directory as the session name? For Bash, put 'export PS1=$PS1"\[\e]30;\H:\w\a\]"' in your ~/.bashrc . |
| 14:50.03 | lauri | hmmm |
| 14:50.09 | lauri | oh phil :) |
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| 14:52.56 | ruppe | didn't work :/ |
| 14:55.05 | Nod51 | lauri: how would I add in hostname to be in the tab name as well? |
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| 14:55.59 | Nod51 | lauri: I know the H is host but is there any way to update it when I ssh to another? |
| 14:56.19 | aji-dahaka | Nod51: I would think having it as your PS1 on each host. |
| 14:56.46 | Nod51 | aji-dahaka: oh yeah add it into my hosts I connect to as well... |
| 14:57.34 | Nod51 | there it goes, thanks a lot lauri and aji-dahaka |
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| 14:58.03 | aji-dahaka | lauri: thanks. That's super-cool. |
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| 15:10.29 | Chambers` | hi guys, are there any screenshots of kde 4 around? |
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| 15:12.58 | Marrs | check the topic Chambers! |
| 15:14.05 | Ravensky | KDE 4?! |
| 15:14.10 | Chambers` | i did! |
| 15:14.59 | Chambers` | you mean the preview features page? |
| 15:15.00 | Ravensky | Konfabulator for superkaramba? awesome |
| 15:15.30 | Marrs | yes, that's all I've seen up to now |
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| 15:16.22 | abitran | re all |
| 15:16.50 | Chambers` | neat! Thanks guys :) |
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| 15:32.00 | Flendor | Hello. |
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| 16:13.09 | stibby | how do i make my window list transparent |
| 16:13.11 | stibby | http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=21108&file1=21108-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=waterdrop |
| 16:13.22 | stibby | look at that kde-look screenshot |
| 16:13.30 | aseigo | stibby: in the style control panel |
| 16:13.42 | stibby | ah. |
| 16:13.49 | aseigo | oh.. wait |
| 16:14.00 | aseigo | what do you mean by "the windowlist? |
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| 16:15.11 | stibby | the actual buttons |
| 16:15.20 | Cerulean | stibby: What version of KDE? |
| 16:15.22 | stibby | on the desktop, each app on that desktop has a button |
| 16:15.23 | stibby | 3.4.1 |
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| 16:15.36 | Cerulean | stibby: Install taskbar v2 |
| 16:15.39 | Cerulean | stibby: Search kde-apps for it. |
| 16:15.42 | stibby | :groan: |
| 16:16.00 | stibby | no way to do it in the existing panel? |
| 16:16.21 | Cerulean | stibby: Or run KDE SVN, IIRC this feature is now there |
| 16:16.39 | lauri | eh? |
| 16:16.58 | lauri | what exactly are you after? the kasbar thingy on the side? |
| 16:17.17 | lauri | kasbar can do that functionality (it's just not that pretty) |
| 16:17.18 | Cerulean | lauri: No, the list of windows. The taskbar |
| 16:17.30 | lauri | ok, what about it? |
| 16:17.43 | lauri | oh transparency |
| 16:17.49 | lauri | I thought someone wanted something useful |
| 16:18.16 | Cerulean | lauri: ;) |
| 16:19.33 | stibby | so no way to get button transparency without a program install or upgrade? |
| 16:20.00 | Cerulean | stibby: Yes. |
| 16:20.50 | stibby | do i have the ability to uninstall taskbar v2 |
| 16:21.26 | Cerulean | stibby: Yes, yes you do. |
| 16:21.37 | Cerulean | stibby: This uhh isn't Windows ;) |
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| 16:22.04 | beters | hello |
| 16:23.15 | Cerulean | hey |
| 16:23.38 | beters | i need some help, when I try to startx with kde it cannot start due to not finding libqt-mt |
| 16:23.48 | beters | anyone able to help me out with this? |
| 16:24.08 | Cerulean | beters: Do you know where libqt-mt is located? |
| 16:24.16 | stibby | i installed the debian package...how do i get it to take effect? |
| 16:24.33 | beters | yeah, i can use locate to find it |
| 16:24.38 | Cerulean | beters: It will be in $QTDIR/lib. So add that directory to /etc/ld.so.conf |
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| 16:24.51 | Cerulean | beters: Then run `ldconfig` as root |
| 16:24.53 | beters | its actually having a problem loading 3 files, then cant load kdeinit |
| 16:25.25 | Cerulean | stibby: Panel Menu > Add to Panel > Applet > Taskbar v2 |
| 16:25.34 | Cerulean | stibby: Then remove the old taskbar. |
| 16:26.35 | stibby | :) :D |
| 16:26.51 | illogic-al | http://illogic-al.org/~orville/images/screenshot_11.png |
| 16:27.15 | stibby | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:27.40 | Cerulean | stibby: Well then, why don't you play with the configuration for this taskbar and see what you can do about that |
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| 16:28.06 | Cerulean | stibby: You can get it to only show a semi-transparent button, but you can't get it to display no button at all |
| 16:28.12 | Cerulean | last time I checked, at least. |
| 16:28.29 | Cerulean | illogic-al: :S |
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| 16:29.26 | scroogie | illogic-al: what icon set is that u use? |
| 16:29.50 | illogic-al | the last icon set i'll ever use: nuvola |
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| 16:32.42 | scroogie | looks very nice |
| 16:33.35 | urbanfox | how do I mount SMB shares like I do in GNOME? |
| 16:33.39 | urbanfox | that is, soft mount them |
| 16:33.41 | stibby | it'd be cool if the nuvole |
| 16:33.48 | stibby | theme had a green varient |
| 16:33.58 | aseigo | urbanfox: smb:/ ? |
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| 16:34.14 | aseigo | urbanfox: you can browse the network using lan:/ and that will redirect you around |
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| 16:34.38 | aseigo | urbanfox: you can also use remote:/ |
| 16:35.01 | urbanfox | can I make it so that it puts an icon on the desktop without actually forcing a shortcut? |
| 16:35.03 | aseigo | urbanfox: which has a "samba shares" entry listed.. and the Add A Network Folder wizard that steps you through creating a permanent icon for a share |
| 16:35.08 | urbanfox | ah |
| 16:35.10 | urbanfox | okay |
| 16:35.13 | urbanfox | that was my question |
| 16:37.22 | urbanfox | grr... it's not authenticating with my share properly |
| 16:41.10 | beters | Cerulean |
| 16:41.14 | beters | you still around? |
| 16:41.21 | Cerulean | I am |
| 16:41.40 | urbanfox | any reason why it might not be authenticating right? |
| 16:42.04 | beters | hey man, its now finding one file but still cant find libstdc++.so.5 |
| 16:42.44 | beters | then cant contact kdeinit |
| 16:43.33 | scroogie | mhm, nuvola doesnt show up after installing |
| 16:43.45 | beters | any idea what could be causing that? |
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| 16:51.25 | urbanfox | grr |
| 16:51.31 | urbanfox | what's the name of the KDE keyring daemon? |
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| 17:00.11 | PhilRod | kwallet |
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| 17:02.22 | Flendor | Heya Phil, how are you? |
| 17:02.52 | jetflash | ok where to start, o oh yes anyone in |
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| 17:03.23 | jetflash | ok |
| 17:03.42 | hussam | is it true that kde 3.4.2 has branched? |
| 17:03.50 | jetflash | I have problems with kppp can anyone help |
| 17:04.43 | PhilRod | hey Flendor - I'm very well thanks. How're you? |
| 17:04.47 | PhilRod | oop, dinnertime |
| 17:04.50 | PhilRod | bbiab |
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| 17:05.11 | jetflash | PhilRod, can you please help me ok |
| 17:07.01 | jetflash | PhilRod, can you please help me ok |
| 17:08.05 | mike-gw | hussam: look at websvn.kde.org |
| 17:08.28 | jetflash | anyone help |
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| 17:08.42 | mike-gw | what is the problem actually ? |
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| 17:09.38 | stibby | where is the keramik theme kept? i need to do some theme hacking |
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| 17:10.17 | stibby | or is there an article on where everything should be kept? |
| 17:10.18 | mike-gw | look at kde-look.org |
| 17:10.50 | mike-gw | hussam: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/ (no) |
| 17:11.04 | Flendor | PhilRod - I'm quite fine too, just had dinner :) |
| 17:11.11 | stibby | and has the setup of themes changed since kde 3.1? |
| 17:11.13 | hussam | mike-gw: thanks |
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| 17:12.54 | jetflash | anyone |
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| 17:19.07 | beters | ok, this freaking thing just refuses to see libstdc++.so.5 |
| 17:19.18 | beters | anyone ever have that problem at all? |
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| 17:25.01 | jetflash | can someone please help me with a problem ok |
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| 17:25.47 | stibby | where is the kde theme documentation? |
| 17:26.02 | jetflash | anyone help me please |
| 17:26.51 | beters | what kind of file is kdeinit? |
| 17:26.55 | beters | .*? |
| 17:27.27 | jetflash | any |
| 17:29.08 | Blissex | jetflash: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions. |
| 17:29.24 | Blissex | beters: the question does not make a lot of sense... |
| 17:29.39 | beters | it may not, you are right |
| 17:29.52 | Blissex | beters: it is an executable, like any other command. |
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| 17:30.26 | jetflash | Blissex: can you help |
| 17:30.32 | beters | where is it by default? |
| 17:30.36 | Blissex | jetflash: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions. |
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| 17:32.43 | Blissex | jetflash: then ask a proper question... |
| 17:33.01 | jetflash | Blissex: I dident read lol |
| 17:33.08 | beters | Blissex, im running 3.4.1 on rhel 3, and when i try to run kdeinit it says it cannot libstdc++.so.5 |
| 17:33.13 | jetflash | Blissex: what is a good ppp dailer for kde |
| 17:33.27 | Blissex | jetflash: well, the default one, 'kppp' |
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| 17:33.56 | Blissex | beters: that's a bit of a big problem, because that's the C++ runtime library. |
| 17:34.14 | beters | any resolution for it? |
| 17:34.33 | Blissex | beters: it looks like either you did not install the C++ runtime library (very unlikely) or the KDE 3.4.1 that you got was not compiled for RH EL 3 |
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| 17:34.45 | jetflash | is this a bash script http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue25/tkdial |
| 17:34.59 | beters | actually it was up and running, then it quit |
| 17:35.06 | beters | i can locate it just fine |
| 17:35.07 | Blissex | jetflash: it is a TCL script... |
| 17:35.24 | Blissex | jetflash: for a command line dialer, the easiest is pribably 'wvdial'. |
| 17:35.40 | beters | but i think another rpm might have installed so.6 now that i look at it, and its screwing it up |
| 17:36.21 | Blissex | beters: in theory executables know which 'so' they want, so '.so.5' and '.so.6' should coexist without problems, some programs using one and some the other. |
| 17:36.47 | Blissex | beters: try 'ldd /PATH/kdeinit' to see which one 'kdeinit' uses. |
| 17:37.08 | Blissex | beters: also look at the output of 'ldconfig -v' to see if both are registered in the shared object cache. |
| 17:37.57 | jetflash | o ok |
| 17:37.58 | beters | ldd /PATH/kdeinit said no such file or directory |
| 17:38.23 | jetflash | can anyone help me with this "the ppp daemon died unexpectedly" |
| 17:38.32 | Blissex | beters: 'PATH' in the example is whatever path 'kdeinit' lives at. |
| 17:38.48 | snugglemonkey | anyone know which packages are not building on kde today? I can't get kdebindings to build. :( |
| 17:38.53 | beters | man, i can tell i havent slept in 42 hours, messing that up |
| 17:38.59 | jetflash | can anyone help me with this "the ppp daemon died unexpectedly" |
| 17:39.35 | Blissex | beters: if you haven't slept in 42 hours, you might have messed up inadvertently a lot of stuff... |
| 17:39.57 | jetflash | can anyone help me with this "the ppp daemon died unexpectedly" |
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| 17:40.09 | Blissex | beters: research shows that sleep deprived subjects believe they are fine even if test show they are not... |
| 17:40.31 | Blissex | jetflash: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions. Dont ask the same question every 30 seconds. |
| 17:40.58 | beters | i know that now :) |
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| 17:47.31 | desertfish | hi. anyone know how to add files to a project in Kate? |
| 17:52.40 | desertfish | Got it: right click on the "projects" folder... |
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| 18:00.43 | beters2 | Blissex |
| 18:00.45 | beters2 | you around? |
| 18:01.18 | Blissex | yes, but why? |
| 18:01.43 | beters2 | man, sorry about sounding like an idiot, but im at the end of my rope, about to pass out |
| 18:02.19 | beters2 | i ran the ldd, and it doesnt find .so.5 |
| 18:02.28 | beters2 | but it finds .so.6 |
| 18:02.33 | beters2 | which is the one i dont want |
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| 18:03.04 | HuntsMan | link so.6 to so.5 |
| 18:03.07 | tbscope | beters2, something stupid to try: symlink .so.5 to .so.? ? |
| 18:03.10 | Blissex | beters2: do if you do 'ldd /..../kdeinit' it shows that it will be run against the 'so.6'? |
| 18:03.48 | Blissex | beters2: thats unlikely because each executable contains a thing called a SONAME which says which version of a library it should run with. Uhm. |
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| 18:04.56 | beters2 | how can i get 6 off completely? |
| 18:06.17 | Blissex | beters2: rmeove the RPM that contains it, like 'rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6' to figure out which one it is |
| 18:06.35 | jjholt | the poor simplekde project they have been slashdotted into next week |
| 18:06.49 | Blissex | beters: it should be a GCC 4 related RPM, and RH EL 3 should really not have much traces of GCC 4 on it. |
| 18:06.56 | Blissex | beters3: it should be a GCC 4 related RPM, and RH EL 3 should really not have much traces of GCC 4 on it. |
| 18:06.59 | Blissex | beters2: it should be a GCC 4 related RPM, and RH EL 3 should really not have much traces of GCC 4 on it. |
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| 18:12.51 | beters2 | what switch can i use with that query to pause? |
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| 18:14.27 | Blissex | beters2: pause what? It should only list a single RPM. |
| 18:17.40 | beters2 | ok |
| 18:18.21 | beters2 | libstdcdc++-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.48 |
| 18:18.28 | beters2 | looks like thats it |
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| 18:19.49 | beters2 | should i uninstall that one? |
| 18:21.38 | Blissex | beters2: |
| 18:21.41 | Blissex | beters2: yes that sone. |
| 18:21.49 | beters2 | ok |
| 18:21.53 | beters2 | removing |
| 18:21.59 | Blissex | beters2: that looks like one that really should not be there |
| 18:22.27 | beters2 | damn failed dependancies |
| 18:22.28 | Blissex | beters2: but it may have been installed tu sopport something else called 'ssa'. It looks very much like an unofficial RPM |
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| 18:23.43 | Blissex | https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2004-426.html |
| 18:23.47 | beters2 | should i force these? since they are failing? |
| 18:24.22 | Blissex | beters2: from that link it looks like they are actually official, and they are for the version of GCC with the 'mudflap' debugger/profiler. |
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| 18:24.32 | Blissex | beters2: but I suspect that it is not needed for now. |
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| 18:24.52 | beters2 | good |
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| 18:25.31 | beters2 | damn, how do i force a removal? |
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| 18:25.53 | beters2 | nodeps |
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| 18:25.56 | beters2 | im an idiot |
| 18:26.04 | Blissex | beters2: no, just very tired... |
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| 18:27.30 | beters2 | definately |
| 18:27.42 | beters2 | now if i could just get kde to see .so.5 |
| 18:27.56 | beters2 | i would be able to slip into a coma |
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| 18:29.13 | Blissex | beters2: but I just tried on my local Fedora install and .so.5 and .so.6 coexist happily: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=44617 |
| 18:29.50 | Blissex | beters2: whats the output on your system for 'ldconfig -v | egrep stdc'? |
| 18:30.49 | eisregen | how many time do the intend to change tf config syntax .... this was the last time I've changed my udev config ... |
| 18:32.04 | Blissex | eisregen: and it becomes ever more complicated and absurd. Some may think it is a job security scheme for GKH |
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| 18:32.47 | Blissex | eisregen: quite a few people have reverted to static '/dev' (like me) and have stopped using 'hotplug' because of that. |
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| 18:35.15 | casal | Hi chi parla italiano ? |
| 18:35.36 | Blissex | casal: circa 60 milioni di persone, soprattutto in Italia. |
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| 18:36.13 | bjohnson | anyone know of a stock ticker or something similar for the kde panel? |
| 18:36.44 | casal | ok grazie della battuta ? |
| 18:37.44 | casal | chi può darmi una mano conoscete Festival ? |
| 18:37.47 | beters2 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z172NP43.html |
| 18:38.04 | beters2 | there Blissex |
| 18:38.29 | Blissex | beters2: from that it shows that you don't have '.so.5' installed at all, despite your earlier assurances. |
| 18:38.40 | beters2 | hmmmm |
| 18:38.42 | Blissex | beters2: remember that the 'locate' database is updated once a day. |
| 18:39.17 | beters2 | when i try to reinstall it, it says that its already installed |
| 18:39.20 | Blissex | beters2: also it looks like that 'libstdc++.so.6' is still there, as it should be without problems BTW. |
| 18:39.31 | Blissex | beters2: try 'rpm -qf libstdc++.so.5' |
| 18:39.38 | Blissex | beters2: try 'rpm -qf /ustr/lib/libstdc++.so.5' |
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| 18:40.13 | Blissex | beters2: try 'rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5' |
| 18:40.32 | elirips | hello. is there a very simple graphic programm available for kde? i only need to draw one red circle and an arrow on an existing image, gimp is much too complicated for me. something as stupid as ms paint. |
| 18:40.42 | beters2 | no such file |
| 18:40.53 | bjohnson | elirips: openoffice draw? |
| 18:41.08 | beters2 | so its not installed |
| 18:41.15 | bjohnson | elirips: Kolourpaint? |
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| 18:41.31 | j3g | is there a way to make file associations common to both kde and gnome apps? |
| 18:41.53 | bjohnson | j3g: set them in both kde and gnome |
| 18:42.11 | rr72 | hehe |
| 18:42.12 | elirips | bjohnson: thanks, that is exactly what i've been looking for. |
| 18:44.30 | Blissex | beters2: «not installed» is very very odd, because I would bet a whole of stuff depends on it in RH EL 3. |
| 18:44.53 | beters2 | i wouldnt doubt it |
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| 18:45.04 | beters2 | question is, can i fix it |
| 18:45.14 | Blissex | beters2: sure, just install the relevant package. |
| 18:46.14 | Blissex | beters2: it will be called either 'libstdc++' or 'compat-libstdc++' (probably the former). |
| 18:46.59 | Blissex | beters2: the KDE RPMs should not have installed with that dependency missing. But perhaps the dependency was not expressed or incorrectly so (e.g. to any version of 'libstdc++' |
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| 18:48.07 | beters2 | makes sense |
| 18:49.17 | j3g | bjohnson, but can't it be automatic? having 2 different association systems is not a good thing.... |
| 18:51.42 | beters2 | cant....find...rpm |
| 18:52.07 | Blissex | beters2: i'll do a web search for you... |
| 18:52.24 | Servo888 | Could somebody please cp / paste me the full command that runs to open up a new konqueror, only that is in the home folder and has the menu on the side? (home folder application link) |
| 18:52.27 | beters2 | thats why you are my personal saviour |
| 18:53.47 | Blissex | beters2: but I can tell you just the name of the RPM, the binaries are only available if bought from RedHat. But then there is CentOS. Wait. |
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| 18:55.13 | bjohnson | j3g: it could be automatic in a binary package world .. but it seems that mostly it is not |
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| 18:56.09 | Blissex | beters2: this one is a direct link to a CentOS (RH EL recompile) binary for it: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/centos/3.5/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm |
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| 18:56.22 | Blissex | beters2: it should be entirely comaptible. |
| 18:56.36 | beters2 | lets how it flies |
| 18:57.02 | Servo888 | Anybody? All I need is the application link of the home folder icon. |
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| 18:57.21 | EldonB46 | Question: on fedora how can the desktop (kde) be configured to open icon directories within nautilus so that each successive directory open will not create yet another window? I have tried the "properties" option "open with" but that does not seem to work? |
| 18:59.03 | Blissex | EldonB46: that a #GNOME question |
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| 19:00.00 | dizzz | hello i've strange bug with the trash bin: on debian i just upgraded from kde 3.3.2 to 3.4.1 and then had 2 trash bins on the desktop and as soon as i'd like to move a file to trash bin it says "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'trash'." ... anybody has an idea how to solve this? |
| 19:00.00 | Blissex | EldonB46: it has to do with the new ''spatial'' Nautilus mode. Just disable it. |
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| 19:01.29 | the1ppp | can someone please telnet myhost 111 I am testing iptables ok |
| 19:02.29 | beters2 | hmmmm, it says that rpm is already installed |
| 19:02.51 | Blissex | beters2: then it got damaged. Force the install. |
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| 19:03.56 | yaloki | evening folks |
| 19:05.04 | yaloki | could anyone tell me whether KDE 3.4.1 is backwards-compatible with 3.4.0 ? I mean, KDE apps built against kdelibs3 3.4.1 would remain 100% compatible with kdelibs3 3.4.0 ? |
| 19:05.17 | casal | wer kann mir helfen Festival per suse 9.3 |
| 19:06.03 | yaloki | has any QA done on that ? |
| 19:06.08 | yaloki | s/QA/QA been/ |
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| 19:08.56 | beters2 | Damnit, it still doenst see it |
| 19:09.20 | Blissex | beters2: 'rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5' again... |
| 19:09.31 | Blissex | beters2: also 'ls -ld /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5*' |
| 19:09.44 | casal | help FESTIVAL SUSE 9.3 ???? |
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| 19:10.18 | illogic-al | casal: Sentences are key. |
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| 19:10.52 | beters2 | still nothing for either of those |
| 19:11.13 | Blissex | casal: ci sono canali IRC Linux in italiano... |
| 19:11.30 | Blissex | beters2: that's impossible, unless your system is _really_ screwed. |
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| 19:11.56 | casal | Blissex: quali ?? |
| 19:12.05 | Blissex | beters2: do: 'rpm -qlp libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm', it will show you that library is indeed inside the RPM. |
| 19:12.47 | Blissex | beters2: just to be sure, this is the list of commands you might want to do: |
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| 19:13.27 | Blissex | beters2: cd /tmp; wget http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/centos/3.5/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm; rpm -Uvh --replacepkgslibstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm; ldconfig -v | egrep libstdc |
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| 19:13.45 | Blissex | beters2: cd /tmp; wget http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/centos/3.5/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm; rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm; ldconfig -v | egrep libstdc |
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| 19:15.55 | casal | chi mi puo aiutare con festival per linux Grazie ? |
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| 19:17.24 | casal | hi |
| 19:18.05 | Blissex | casal: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?num=0&query=linux.it |
| 19:18.52 | casal | Thank you !! |
| 19:19.34 | Blissex | casal: ma dubito che ci siano molti che ne sanno di Festival, che e` un'applicazione un po` oscura. |
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| 19:20.14 | Blissex | casal: ci sono peraltro articoli etc. come http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/06/14/192246.shtml?tid=13 |
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| 19:21.15 | Blissex | casal: e comunque chiedere aiuti personali non e` bene. Fare domande specifiche e` bene. Leggi per favore http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 |
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| 19:21.25 | beters2 | done Blissex |
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| 19:21.52 | Blissex | beters2: and the output of 'ldconfig -v' does show the '.so.5' version? |
| 19:22.04 | rr72 | has anyone gotton windows games to work with wine? |
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| 19:22.24 | Blissex | rr72: several people have. Depends a lot on the game. Also look at Cedega for the more advanced games. |
| 19:23.11 | beters2 | Blissex, nope |
| 19:23.16 | beters2 | .6 |
| 19:23.38 | Blissex | beters2: then your filesystem may be severely damaged... Last try, then |
| 19:24.05 | rr72 | im talking about somin like gta or doom3 or warcraft |
| 19:24.27 | Blissex | rr72: Cedega may do some of them. But Doom3 also exists in a Linux native version. |
| 19:24.49 | Blissex | rr72: also, this is not a #KDE question, ask in #LinuxHelp for example |
| 19:25.21 | rr72 | ill probably got +b |
| 19:25.26 | rr72 | *get |
| 19:25.46 | Blissex | beters2: cd /; rpm2cpio tmp/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm | cpio -idm; ldconfig -v | egrep libstdc |
| 19:26.03 | Blissex | beters2: and then also 'ls -ld /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5*' |
| 19:26.16 | Blissex | rr72: no why? |
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| 19:26.33 | rr72 | why what? what you smoking? |
| 19:26.40 | rr72 | crazy freak |
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| 19:28.33 | casal | Blissex la mia domanda ?? Questa si chiama comunità ? |
| 19:29.04 | argonel|work | heh |
| 19:29.06 | beters2 | Bliss that first command didnt work |
| 19:29.36 | Blissex | casal: questo e` un canale KDE, non per Festival. Le tue domande non sono del tutto pertinenti costi`. Per di piu` codesto e` un canale in inglese. |
| 19:29.49 | Blissex | beters2: OK, let's try again from the beginning... |
| 19:30.12 | Blissex | beters2: cd /tmp; wget http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/centos/3.5/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm; cd /; rpm2cpio tmp/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm | cpio -idm; ldconfig -v | egrep libstdc |
| 19:30.28 | casal | pertinnent |
| 19:30.51 | casal | pertinenti ma festival non fa parte di KDE ? |
| 19:31.33 | Blissex | casal: no, puo` essere usato col KDE, ma e` un pacchetto a se. La «home page» sta qui: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/ |
| 19:31.49 | casal | KTTS e integrato in kde o no ? |
| 19:32.19 | Blissex | casal: e il FAQ cola`: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/cgi-bin/cstr/lists.cgi?config=festival_faq |
| 19:33.18 | Blissex | casal: e il suggerimento e` di fare domande alla mailing-list: http://www.festvox.org/maillists.html |
| 19:34.27 | beters2 | uh oh |
| 19:35.03 | beters2 | libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.3 |
| 19:35.36 | beters2 | is that a good sign Blissex? |
| 19:35.42 | casal | oohh KTTS non e un progetto che include festival ?? |
| 19:35.48 | Blissex | beters2: so in your mind state you must have done something wrong before, as that is essentially the same as downloading and installing the RPM with 'rpm' |
| 19:36.01 | Blissex | casal: usa, ma non include. |
| 19:36.17 | Blissex | beters2: well, that new line seems encouraging. |
| 19:36.51 | beters2 | Kde is back up |
| 19:36.56 | beters2 | i love you man |
| 19:37.10 | beters2 | will you marry me? :) |
| 19:37.11 | casal | I LOVE KDE !!! |
| 19:37.30 | Blissex | beters2: 'rpm2cpio tmp/libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm | cpio -idm' does more or less the same thing as 'rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs libstdc++-3.2.3-52.i386.rpm', so if the first works, and and the second does not, there is something worrying. |
| 19:37.49 | Blissex | beters2: but first get sleep. All is well that ends well :-) |
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| 19:38.38 | Blissex | beters2: and yes, I am looking to find someone gullible that would marry me, so perhaps if you have a gullible sister, around 30-35 (helps if bio block ticking), fine :-) |
| 19:38.59 | Blissex | beters2: so just get sleep now. It helps a lot. Most people do it every day :-) |
| 19:39.13 | beters2 | lol, i wish my boss agreed with that :) |
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| 19:39.37 | beters2 | i gots some fine step sisters if you want them |
| 19:39.40 | Blissex | beters2: the IT job market is improving greatly presently. |
| 19:39.51 | Blissex | beters2: step sisters is fine too :-) |
| 19:40.02 | casal | Blissex nick for KDE ????............ |
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| 19:40.37 | Blissex | casal: "Blissex" e` il nome di Blissex Walex, il progettista della X-Wing :-) |
| 19:41.22 | casal | pensavo a Blisex !! |
| 19:41.40 | lilalinux | OMG |
| 19:41.46 | lilalinux | what happened to k3b? |
| 19:41.49 | Blissex | beters2: I hope you are still online only because you have fallen in a coma before you could logout |
| 19:42.05 | Blissex | lilalinux: OMG somebody has killed Kenny3B?:-) |
| 19:42.08 | lilalinux | jesus, is there a way to make it look and feel like before? |
| 19:42.13 | lilalinux | Blissex: worse |
| 19:42.19 | lilalinux | it's k3b that dies |
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| 19:44.00 | casal | con questi elementi viene la voglia di cambiare .........unix in echo tarball !! |
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| 19:45.08 | lilalinux | casal: no comprendo italiano |
| 19:46.18 | casal | ok kannst du deuscht ? |
| 19:46.25 | lilalinux | ich ja, aber die anderen nicht ;) |
| 19:47.08 | casal | ok soll ich ich mit 199 leute reden ?? |
| 19:47.33 | lilalinux | nein, aber wir fliegen hier raus, wenn wir nicht englisch reden ;) |
| 19:47.36 | lilalinux | mach query |
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| 19:49.25 | casal | ok ich gehe in eine multilanguage chat wo alles frei ist OPEN for WELT !! |
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| 20:01.41 | GooooGle | Where can I download latest KDE for Debian ? Kde.org doesnt have Debian packages :/ |
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| 20:02.01 | loneforal | hi how can I restart a froze mouse in kde ? |
| 20:02.17 | GooooGle | loneforal: Hit the restart button |
| 20:02.37 | loneforal | its froze :) |
| 20:02.51 | GooooGle | Where are you? North pole? |
| 20:02.56 | loneforal | there a way from cli to send it |
| 20:03.01 | GooooGle | Hit ur system's restart button :/ |
| 20:03.16 | loneforal | no thanks |
| 20:03.19 | loneforal | :) |
| 20:03.20 | GooooGle | lool |
| 20:03.46 | loneforal | kdeinit something ? |
| 20:03.52 | GooooGle | reboot |
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| 20:04.16 | loneforal | na my kernels a;;ready recompiled |
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| 20:05.29 | GooooGle | anyone around ? |
| 20:06.30 | illogic-al | I am. For the moment. |
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| 20:06.37 | GooooGle | Where can I download latest KDE for Debian ? Kde.org doesnt have Debian packages :/ |
| 20:12.30 | Servo888 | Anybody know what that little dialup applet was called that allowed you to connect and disconnect just by clicking the little icon? I don't think it's kppp, it's something else |
| 20:13.50 | kirun | Kinternet ? |
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| 20:30.57 | Nach | Where is a good place for a feature request? |
| 20:31.20 | StevenR | Nach: what feature? |
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| 20:31.38 | Nach | I'm a bit annoyed over how the clock works with some things, and would like it improved, StevenR |
| 20:32.19 | StevenR | Nach: the kicker clock? |
| 20:32.33 | Nach | I'm not sure what it's called, it's the taskbar clocked |
| 20:32.34 | Nach | clock* |
| 20:33.17 | Nach | Like, you can have the clock show dates using different calander systems, but if I do that, it makes all dates on the system use that calander system. I would like if I can just have the clock itself show dates on alternate calanders, and multple of them |
| 20:33.35 | StevenR | Nach: bugs.kde.org file a wish for the kicker applet |
| 20:33.48 | GooooGle | where can I get KDE for Debian ? KDE.org only has 3.4.1 for download and it isnt available for Debian. |
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| 20:34.05 | Nach | GooooGle, you can get KDE 3.3.2 for Debian |
| 20:34.12 | GooooGle | where from ? |
| 20:34.18 | Nach | apt-get |
| 20:34.22 | Nach | by default |
| 20:34.37 | GooooGle | no, I want to install it from a package later as Im on Dialup :s |
| 20:34.42 | StevenR | there must be 3.4.1 packages too |
| 20:34.57 | Nach | GooooGle, http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34 |
| 20:35.03 | StevenR | you can download packages and install them later on debian, i'm sure of it |
| 20:35.05 | GooooGle | k thx |
| 20:35.27 | GooooGle | ofcourse |
| 20:35.42 | Nach | StevenR, another possibility, where can I get Kicker source? |
| 20:35.50 | StevenR | ftp.kde.org |
| 20:36.02 | Nach | and how good are apps like at structuring the code? |
| 20:36.08 | StevenR | there are mirrors, if you aren't local to germany |
| 20:36.39 | GooooGle | k |
| 20:37.06 | StevenR | Nach: i don't know cos i generally don't understand c++ code, cos it's OOP and thus odd. it look nicely laid out though. |
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| 20:37.27 | Nach | if I find the source, perhaps I'll mod it myself |
| 20:37.34 | StevenR | Nach: i did read some applet source once, and it seemed pretty simple if one understands c++ |
| 20:37.58 | Nach | another thing, what's with Konqueror not supporting JavaScript events? |
| 20:38.13 | StevenR | konqueror supports javascript |
| 20:38.22 | Nach | not events |
| 20:38.37 | StevenR | dunno really |
| 20:38.42 | Nach | Look at this for example: http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/maze-master/ |
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| 20:38.57 | Nach | Mozilla, FireFox, Opera, and Internet Explorer all handle the events fine |
| 20:39.02 | Nach | Konq ignores them |
| 20:39.04 | StevenR | i'm a sysadmin, not a programmer, generally stay out of the code unless it really _really_ bugs me |
| 20:39.40 | StevenR | Nach: sorry, i don't know, that's best asked in #kde-devel |
| 20:39.45 | Nach | okay |
| 20:40.11 | StevenR | this is the user support place, kde-devel is the development channel |
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| 20:42.55 | GooooGle | ermm |
| 20:43.02 | GooooGle | Nach: How big is KDE ? |
| 20:43.13 | kirun | Konqueror does support JavaScript events, you just need to add them with setAttribute (which Opera and Mozilla like, but not IE) |
| 20:43.13 | aseigo | bigger than matchbox |
| 20:43.46 | StevenR | kde is big, some say bloated, but i disagree, it's not bloated, just has lots of stuff |
| 20:44.03 | GooooGle | hmm |
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| 20:44.13 | GooooGle | how big for the Core system ? |
| 20:44.19 | GooooGle | one thing |
| 20:44.25 | GooooGle | ok forget that |
| 20:44.37 | GooooGle | I just need which package to install for X Window System ? |
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| 20:45.48 | aseigo | GooooGle: easiest thing to do to get KDE 3.4.x on debian that is really good : install kubuntu |
| 20:46.04 | aseigo | GooooGle: it's debian + the underlying ubuntu goodies + kde |
| 20:46.36 | GooooGle | Cant, im on dialup |
| 20:46.45 | GooooGle | and im using Debian's Netinstall versio |
| 20:46.46 | GooooGle | n |
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| 20:47.00 | aseigo | GooooGle: snail mail a kubuntu cd =) |
| 20:47.22 | aseigo | GooooGle: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ |
| 20:47.28 | GooooGle | who'll send it to me =p |
| 20:47.29 | aseigo | er... |
| 20:47.31 | aseigo | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ |
| 20:47.50 | aseigo | GooooGle: the ubuntu folks.. well, they will in a couple months apparently.. they'll be adding kubuntu to the ordering system thingy, or so i've heard |
| 20:48.23 | GooooGle | ive ordered ubuntu |
| 20:48.27 | GooooGle | The free one |
| 20:48.33 | GooooGle | its been 1.5 months now |
| 20:48.35 | GooooGle | heh |
| 20:48.38 | aseigo | oh? haha.. shite |
| 20:50.35 | GooooGle | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.1-1_i386.deb >> 1.1mb |
| 20:50.41 | GooooGle | isnt that too small? :/ |
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| 20:56.52 | HuntsMan | GooooGle: put that in sources.list, and do a dist-upgrade |
| 20:57.48 | GooooGle | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.1-1_i386.deb |
| 20:57.50 | GooooGle | the package? :/ |
| 20:57.53 | GooooGle | or http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/kdebase/ |
| 20:57.55 | GooooGle | that :s |
| 20:58.14 | HuntsMan | the last |
| 20:58.16 | HuntsMan | nono |
| 20:58.30 | HuntsMan | deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./ |
| 20:58.33 | HuntsMan | something like that |
| 20:58.42 | GooooGle | :| |
| 20:58.42 | GooooGle | k |
| 20:58.43 | GooooGle | :| |
| 20:59.07 | GooooGle | but it has amd64 files too :S |
| 20:59.42 | HuntsMan | yeah |
| 20:59.50 | HuntsMan | but it will install the i386 ones |
| 21:00.04 | GooooGle | i just hope so |
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| 21:10.48 | pusling | any one knows if there is a lightweight WM that looks like kde, behaves like kde, and make kde/qt-programs look nice ? ;) |
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| 21:14.00 | Drune | it's possible to set a default desktop for all users in system in KDE? |
| 21:14.59 | Drune | same icons, same background, etc.. |
| 21:15.04 | aseigo | Drune: what do you mean by "default desktop"? |
| 21:15.04 | aseigo | ah |
| 21:15.07 | aseigo | yes, yes there is =) |
| 21:15.16 | Drune | how? |
| 21:15.22 | aseigo | kiosktool is the easiest |
| 21:15.33 | Drune | oh i will see that |
| 21:15.35 | Drune | tks. |
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| 21:16.33 | JacobLeaver | Howdy all! I've got a question, maybe newb, but I've googled it and can't find an answer. |
| 21:16.50 | Drune | aseigo, one more question. Settings are saved under /usr/... not in users home dir's right? |
| 21:16.57 | thiago | Drune: no |
| 21:17.05 | thiago | settings are saved in ~/.kde |
| 21:17.23 | aseigo | Drune: user settings are saved in `kde-config --localprefix` |
| 21:17.43 | aseigo | Drune: system settings in `kde-config --prefix` and any number of additional directories that the sys admin may define |
| 21:18.03 | aseigo | Drune: http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ |
| 21:18.18 | Drune | aseigo, ok. thanks :) |
| 21:18.54 | aseigo | Drune: in particular the kiosk section..and articles like: http://enterprise.kde.org/articles/kiosk-lp.php |
| 21:18.55 | JacobLeaver | When adding an identity in kmail 3.4.1, I can no longer use a + in the email address. I get an invalid email address message. Is there somewhere I can configure valid email characters? |
| 21:19.23 | GooooGle | anyone using Debian right now ? |
| 21:20.08 | pusling | GooooGle: yup |
| 21:20.09 | aseigo | Drune: but yeah.. with kiosktool you just go into the "default profile" entry and click on the Desktop icon, then click the Setup Desktop (or whatever it's called, i forget the exact wording atm) button and arrange the "pretend" desktop you get =) |
| 21:20.24 | aseigo | Drune: very slick. you can even set up multiple desktop profiles and add users/groups to them |
| 21:20.36 | GooooGle | pusling: Can u tell me the size of these packages combined? |
| 21:20.39 | GooooGle | xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfstt xlibs xserver-common xutils kde-base |
| 21:20.40 | aseigo | Drune: along with managing/controling a ton of other things =) kiosk rules |
| 21:20.54 | Drune | aseigo, nice piece of software then. xD |
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| 21:21.10 | Drune | aseigo, btw, a like your smile. |
| 21:21.13 | Drune | *i |
| 21:21.20 | Drune | =) |
| 21:21.36 | aseigo | Drune: yes.. the framework was started on in 2.2 and really "got there" in 3.2 .. so, it was a lot of work, much of which can be attributed to Waldo Bastian.. |
| 21:21.39 | aseigo | heh. thanks =)) |
| 21:22.05 | GooooGle | pusling ? |
| 21:22.59 | pusling | GooooGle: hmm... is there an easy way to do it ? |
| 21:23.12 | GooooGle | pusling: apt-get install xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfstt xlibs xserver-common xutils kde-base |
| 21:23.27 | GooooGle | it will tell u the size of the packages that need to be downloaded, Yes/No |
| 21:23.29 | GooooGle | say No |
| 21:23.37 | GooooGle | and tell me the size =) |
| 21:23.51 | pusling | GooooGle: broken dependencies |
| 21:23.57 | Drune | GooooGle, there's not a good solution because he have almost of this packages installed. |
| 21:24.03 | Drune | *has |
| 21:24.20 | GooooGle | Drune: Yeah, i just want him to tell me the size :/ |
| 21:24.30 | HuntsMan | GooooGle: apt says the size of the downloaded/installed packages at the emd |
| 21:24.30 | GooooGle | Drune: Can u try it, please? |
| 21:24.31 | HuntsMan | end |
| 21:24.46 | pusling | GooooGle: and I have lot of the packages installed |
| 21:24.58 | aseigo | GooooGle: my kde installation is 533M |
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| 21:25.03 | Drune | apt-get doesnt say size of package if they are installed. |
| 21:25.05 | GooooGle | No, it says it at the start too, "xmb of packages to be downloaded" |
| 21:25.12 | GooooGle | hmm yeah :s |
| 21:25.13 | aseigo | GooooGle: but then... i have a LOT of KDE stuff installed. basically everything that's in svn =) |
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| 21:25.23 | aseigo | GooooGle: iirc the packages tend to be around 150MB |
| 21:25.25 | pusling | Need to get 90,3MB of archives. |
| 21:25.26 | pusling | After unpacking 243MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 21:25.28 | aseigo | or less if you don't get everything |
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| 21:25.36 | pusling | (found a clean machine ;) |
| 21:25.39 | aseigo | so you can go from ~100MB to half a gig =) |
| 21:25.44 | GooooGle | :S |
| 21:25.51 | GooooGle | 100mb's better |
| 21:25.51 | GooooGle | heh |
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| 21:26.22 | Julianyus | hi |
| 21:26.22 | aseigo | ahahah.. my /opt/kde3 is even worse: 833MB |
| 21:26.25 | aseigo | er, 888MB |
| 21:26.32 | pusling | GooooGle: and quite a lot of dependencies |
| 21:26.36 | aseigo | jesus there's a lot of kde software available these das. |
| 21:26.37 | aseigo | er, days |
| 21:26.41 | Drune | qt is bigger |
| 21:26.44 | pusling | GooooGle: http://pastebin.com/315833 |
| 21:26.58 | beters | i have my kde installed under root, and root is the only one that can start kde, how do i allow other users to access it? |
| 21:27.04 | GooooGle | thx, hang |
| 21:27.37 | pusling | beters: what linux/bsd are you using - and how did you install it ? |
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| 21:28.01 | beters | redhat rhel 3, and through rpms |
| 21:28.28 | Drune | beters, just create a user and echo "kde-session" > .xinitrc and enjoy. This only works without gdm/kdm/xdm/slim :) |
| 21:29.03 | beters | what would the command for that be? |
| 21:29.17 | pusling | startx |
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| 21:30.57 | Drune | beters, 1) create a user in system. 2) login as user (not root) 3) echo "exec kde-session" > .xinitrc 4) startx |
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| 21:35.41 | beters | hmmm, kde-session not found |
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| 21:37.02 | Drune | i dont use kde here, i cant help more now. just ask to other guys. |
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| 21:38.45 | P4C0 | hi, how can I do in order to enable the switch user menu? |
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| 21:39.45 | Bill^Gates | hi |
| 21:40.11 | Drune | Explorer.exe != KDE :P |
| 21:40.31 | Bill^Gates | can i use nautilus as my file manager in KDE instead of Konqueror? |
| 21:41.41 | Drune | Bill^Gates, sure. |
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| 21:42.23 | Drune | may you need to disable desktop icons in gconf |
| 21:42.28 | Drune | gconf-editor. |
| 21:43.17 | Bill^Gates | how do i go about to make nautilus the default manager? |
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| 21:43.37 | deggi3 | what other applets are out there for system monitoring |
| 21:43.42 | deggi3 | cpuload / etc |
| 21:43.49 | rr72 | gkrellm2 |
| 21:43.55 | deggi3 | the one with kde-kicker-applets SUCKS |
| 21:44.03 | deggi3 | was that to me? |
| 21:45.11 | Bill^Gates | gdesklets |
| 21:45.26 | HuntsMan | SuperKaramba |
| 21:45.31 | deggi3 | Gdesklets as in gnome? |
| 21:45.32 | P4C0 | karamba |
| 21:45.41 | deggi3 | ok |
| 21:45.49 | deggi3 | let me give some of these a go |
| 21:47.27 | blueyed | Is there an easy way to build KMail with full debug symbols, so a traceback would be more useful to the devs? I'm on Kubuntu. |
| 21:47.27 | deggi3 | superkaramba with gentoo coming up... |
| 21:47.38 | P4C0 | how can I use the switch user menu? |
| 21:48.17 | Servo888 | Is there any way to define /dev/ttLTM0 as the modem device in kppp? |
| 21:48.53 | sbriesen | btw kppp: where can I configure capiplugin links? |
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| 21:50.25 | marcusU | If there a channel for SimpleKDE? |
| 21:50.47 | Bill^Gates | i am running gdesklets in KDE atm |
| 21:51.03 | deggi3 | do you have to reload kde to get the applets to show up in the menu |
| 21:51.13 | deggi3 | karamba is installed as far as i can tell and i dont see it in applets |
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| 21:51.50 | manolista | Bill^Gates: ohhhh, an spy!!! |
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| 21:54.41 | rr72 | its what converted me to linux |
| 21:55.10 | marcusU | ``My other computer runs Windows 3.1.'' |
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| 21:59.20 | beters | hmmm, anyone else have any ideas on how to get kde running on my others users with it installed under root? |
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| 22:01.19 | grepper | beters: installed under root ? |
| 22:01.25 | madpenguin8 | why did you install it there |
| 22:01.31 | grepper | hopefully you didn't put it in /root/* |
| 22:01.39 | beters | didnt even mean to |
| 22:02.07 | grepper | oops |
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| 22:02.19 | madpenguin8 | install it in a proper place like /usr |
| 22:02.36 | beters | cant be moved can it? |
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| 22:02.54 | madpenguin8 | ho did you install it |
| 22:02.57 | madpenguin8 | how* |
| 22:03.06 | beters | rpms |
| 22:03.08 | eille-la | hi there, how to launch the app associated to a given file mimetype from the command line? like if it was [double]clicked in a konqueror window |
| 22:03.23 | madpenguin8 | kfmclient exec |
| 22:03.32 | grepper | eh ? rpms put it in /root/ ? |
| 22:03.59 | grepper | where did you get the rpms, wallmart ? :P |
| 22:04.02 | beters | yeah, annoying isnt it, thats not at all what i thought it would do |
| 22:04.05 | madpenguin8 | hehe |
| 22:04.18 | beters | it even had a little smiley face on it |
| 22:04.28 | beters | slashing prices |
| 22:04.45 | beters | but seriously, is there anything i can do? |
| 22:04.46 | grepper | that's not a smile, that's an evil grin |
| 22:04.51 | beters | havent seen this before |
| 22:05.06 | grepper | find some rpms done by someone competent |
| 22:05.06 | madpenguin8 | get some real rpm's |
| 22:05.40 | beters | well yeah, but i was kinda hoping not to have to reinstall everything |
| 22:05.58 | madpenguin8 | beters: does your distro not provide kde? |
| 22:06.09 | madpenguin8 | if not, get a better distro |
| 22:06.46 | beters | ok, ill take that as a "no, you have to reinstall everything" |
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| 22:07.08 | madpenguin8 | seriously though, does your distro not provide kde? |
| 22:07.10 | eille-la | madpenguin8: thanks |
| 22:07.16 | madpenguin8 | eille-la: np |
| 22:07.26 | beters | im using rhel 3 |
| 22:07.37 | grepper | beters: you didn't use some crazy switch to rpm that put them there did you ? |
| 22:07.38 | madpenguin8 | wtf is that |
| 22:07.58 | beters | nope |
| 22:08.07 | madpenguin8 | what is rhel |
| 22:08.28 | beters | it was actually a normal install, or it seemed to be |
| 22:08.36 | beters | redhat enterprise 3 |
| 22:08.49 | madpenguin8 | ahh, like I said, get a better distro |
| 22:08.56 | grepper | what does "kde-config --prefix" return ? |
| 22:09.02 | beters | lol, trust me, if this was my box, i would |
| 22:09.06 | grepper | oh, probably can't even run that |
| 22:09.54 | beters | "/usr" |
| 22:11.05 | beters | still there? |
| 22:11.22 | madpenguin8 | yeah |
| 22:11.25 | madpenguin8 | uhm |
| 22:11.48 | madpenguin8 | are you sure it installed in /root |
| 22:12.03 | madpenguin8 | is there a /usr/kde |
| 22:12.26 | beters | nope |
| 22:12.53 | madpenguin8 | seems your packages are b0rked, are they official? |
| 22:12.58 | beters | yep |
| 22:13.45 | beters | im not sure exactly wth happened with this install |
| 22:13.54 | grepper | beters: so you have what, /root/bin/konqueror or somesuch ? |
| 22:14.12 | beters | nope |
| 22:14.26 | beters | it made a root/kde3.4.1 |
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| 22:14.39 | madpenguin8 | wtf |
| 22:14.46 | beters | freaking strange |
| 22:14.58 | grepper | what does "which konqueror" return ? |
| 22:15.07 | beters | i never have this issue with suse |
| 22:16.05 | benJIman | suse puts kde altogether in a sensible /opt/kde3 though |
| 22:16.47 | beters | "/usr/bin/konqueror" |
| 22:18.12 | grepper | beters: and if you run /usr/bin/konqueror ? |
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| 22:27.55 | tecnico | [_]illogic-al: are you there ? I updated to the latest stable patch on 2.6.12 in gentoo (2.6.12-r6) and now KDE works ok. |
| 22:28.08 | tecnico | illogic-al: I had 2.6.12-r4 |
| 22:28.10 | illogic-al | sweetness |
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| 22:28.19 | tecnico | :) |
| 22:28.40 | Frogbarf | Does anyone know how to change the font encoding in KSirc? |
| 22:28.40 | tecnico | illogic-al: just wanted to let you know... in case other people start having this problem.. |
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| 22:29.29 | tecnico | illogic-al: 2.6.12-r4 messed up KDE 3.3 too, but 2.6.12-r6 works ok |
| 22:29.34 | Frogbarf | The fonts look horrible in German |
| 22:30.12 | illogic-al | I blame gentoo. |
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| 22:31.11 | jmspeex | Anyone can tell me what's the KDE equivalent of the gnome volume manager? |
| 22:31.20 | beters | grepper, you still there? |
| 22:31.26 | termo | jmspeex: what does it do? |
| 22:31.29 | jmspeex | (i.e. the thing that's supposed to mount usb devices) |
| 22:31.58 | termo | uh |
| 22:32.11 | termo | i don't think kde has anything to do with that |
| 22:32.14 | beters | my root login works just fine in kde, but all my other accounts get the "cannot start kdeinit" |
| 22:32.37 | beters | what could be causing that? |
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| 22:32.53 | jmspeex | termo: I'm not sure exactly, but I found that my devices got mounted automatically if gnome-volume-manager was active, not otherwise |
| 22:33.04 | jmspeex | and I'm using KDE for desktop |
| 22:33.14 | termo | hmm |
| 22:33.25 | HuntsMan | jmspeex: media:/ |
| 22:33.37 | termo | hotplug should mount your devices automatically |
| 22:34.05 | tecnico | illogic-al: it's possible, since there are some "leading edge" patches constantly.. Thanks for your help anyway ! |
| 22:34.18 | grepper | beters: yeah |
| 22:34.19 | illogic-al | :-) |
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| 22:34.34 | HuntsMan | termo: hotplug has nothing to do with that, HAL does that |
| 22:34.37 | HuntsMan | setups fstab |
| 22:35.06 | jmspeex | HuntsMan: any way to get those to appear on my desktop automatically? |
| 22:35.37 | HuntsMan | make media:/ work |
| 22:35.38 | HuntsMan | then |
| 22:35.49 | grepper | beters: try cleaning out /tmp/kde-$USER and mv user's KDEHOME to a backup name, then try to login again |
| 22:35.55 | HuntsMan | set kdesktop to show mounted/unmounted devices in the desktop |
| 22:36.06 | jmspeex | HuntsMan: media:/ works |
| 22:36.17 | HuntsMan | :) |
| 22:36.37 | jmspeex | HuntsMan: How do I configure kdesktop? |
| 22:36.51 | HuntsMan | right click / Configure Desktop |
| 22:37.16 | jmspeex | Then? |
| 22:37.34 | HuntsMan | Behaviout |
| 22:37.45 | HuntsMan | Device Icons |
| 22:37.46 | jmspeex | OK, I found it |
| 22:38.03 | jmspeex | How do I unmount? |
| 22:38.20 | HuntsMan | click the icon / unmount |
| 22:38.39 | beters | Grepper |
| 22:38.55 | jmspeex | OK, found it. The French translation was a bit unintuituve... |
| 22:39.05 | beters | it lloks like it cant find libqtmt.so.3 |
| 22:39.11 | beters | amongst a few other files |
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| 22:41.42 | beters | ok grepper |
| 22:41.59 | beters | i made the user member of the root, and it comes up like a charm |
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| 22:42.59 | Frogbarf | Is there a way to change the default font encoding for all of kde? |
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| 22:43.25 | grepper | beters: bad solution |
| 22:43.29 | beters | i know |
| 22:43.38 | grepper | did you try what I mentioned ? |
| 22:43.55 | beters | i wonder if its looking to that other install for its files, the one thats on root for no reason |
| 22:43.56 | beters | yeah |
| 22:44.01 | beters | there werent any files there |
| 22:44.13 | beters | nothing in the tmp files of the user |
| 22:44.24 | grepper | /tmp/kde* ? |
| 22:44.42 | grepper | perms on /tmp ok ? |
| 22:44.48 | beters | yeah, nothing in the files for the users that cant in kde |
| 22:44.52 | beters | yeah |
| 22:45.28 | grepper | tmp 1777 |
| 22:45.44 | grepper | check user's ~/.xsession-errors are well |
| 22:46.15 | RichK | I have tried setting the cursorColor for Aterm to white many times, through .Xresources/.Xdefaults to no luck. I can get transparency whatnot working. I've followed 2 tutorials now, still no luck, and have also googled/yahood/alta'd to no luck. I cannot figure out why my cursor color is acting like this. It's transparent, AFAIK. KDE 3.3, Debian 3.1; anyone know of a work around for this -- to enable my cursor color to be that of my choice in Aterm? |
| 22:46.23 | beters | will do |
| 22:46.25 | beters | brb |
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| 22:54.32 | anisX | heya all!!! |
| 22:54.32 | anisX | :D |
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| 22:54.44 | canllaith | ullo StevenR :) |
| 22:54.44 | StevenR | good evening anisX |
| 22:54.54 | canllaith | anisX: hi! apa khabar? :) |
| 22:55.10 | anisX | canllaith: saya sihat sejahtera akak nicole! |
| 22:55.28 | anisX | canllaith: just went back from my hometown |
| 22:55.33 | canllaith | :) |
| 22:56.20 | StevenR | canllaith: goin to see nik tomoro :D:D:D got ubuntu ppc cds in the post today (forgotten i ordered them, very nice surprise, will use them at work) :) getting a laptop :D, just need NIC and switch to irc from my bed :D |
| 22:56.23 | illogic-al | anisX: Yo! |
| 22:56.30 | JacobLeaver | When adding an identity in kmail 3.4.1, I can no longer use a + in the email address. I get an invalid email address message. Is there somewhere I can configure valid email characters? |
| 22:56.46 | anisX | yo too~! |
| 22:56.47 | anisX | :D |
| 22:56.47 | jmspeex | Anyone knows how to make the gnome and kde font settings work together? |
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| 22:57.06 | illogic-al | anisX: whatcha been up to? |
| 22:57.16 | jmspeex | For some reason the kde font prefs don't affect gnome prefs at all |
| 22:57.18 | canllaith | jmspeex: try the gtk-qt engine, which lets you set gnome fonts from within KDE's control center |
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| 22:57.39 | anisX | illogic-al: looking for you |
| 22:57.40 | anisX | :p |
| 22:57.42 | canllaith | jmspeex: This is in the FAQ which is in the channel topic as you join, under KDE with non KDE applications |
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| 22:59.40 | JacobLeaver | Nope? No love? |
| 23:00.20 | illogic-al | anisX: I need to make myself more available then ;-) |
| 23:01.07 | anisX | illogic-al: lol..u are not available before this ? |
| 23:01.08 | anisX | :( |
| 23:02.55 | illogic-al | Well, I wasn't available online, otherwise totally. Just waiting fer you hon :-D So turn that frown upside down |
| 23:03.00 | StevenR | canllaith: so all in all, today has been pretty good |
| 23:03.23 | cass_nova | :-D |
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| 23:05.29 | anisX | cassanova ? |
| 23:05.30 | anisX | haha |
| 23:05.32 | anisX | ok o |
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| 23:06.15 | illogic-al | heheh |
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| 23:06.35 | anisX | illogic-al: u are naughty enough dear ;) |
| 23:06.38 | illogic-al | I moved from NY to Massachusetts so I wasn't online for a while. |
| 23:07.10 | illogic-al | Internet connection I'm on now kinda sucks too. was way faster in NY. |
| 23:07.46 | jmspeex | canllaith: sorry, thanks |
| 23:07.48 | anisX | illogic-al: at least u have internet connection...how if they dont have internet connection ? i think that is nightmare for you orville! |
| 23:08.10 | illogic-al | It was for the first week. |
| 23:08.13 | canllaith | StevenR: cool :) I'm sick with a sore throat :( |
| 23:08.18 | StevenR | aww |
| 23:08.22 | illogic-al | But I have been delivered at last :-) |
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| 23:09.57 | canllaith | aw you're sweet :) |
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| 23:10.03 | canllaith | apparently some hot sweet tea is meant to be coming or something |
| 23:10.09 | _nano | watha helll |
| 23:10.25 | StevenR | canllaith: jelly! |
| 23:10.30 | canllaith | don't have any :( |
| 23:10.37 | _nano | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.42 | _nano | lkls |
| 23:10.44 | _nano | sklfdmk |
| 23:10.44 | StevenR | canllaith: send HYMO out to get some |
| 23:11.04 | StevenR | canllaith: HWMO actually |
| 23:11.35 | _nano | ?????????????????????? |
| 23:11.38 | _nano | ????????????????? |
| 23:11.38 | StevenR | He Who Must Obey (like SWMBO) |
| 23:11.40 | _nano | ======?????????????? |
| 23:11.51 | StevenR | _nano: please stop |
| 23:12.06 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 23:12.39 | StevenR | canllaith: no Wake On Lan ? |
| 23:13.09 | _nano | i am speak spanish and yours |
| 23:13.57 | canllaith | StevenR: not set up. |
| 23:14.28 | StevenR | canllaith: :( |
| 23:14.55 | StevenR | canllaith: do you know of any 10/100 lan cards that are good and work with slack? |
| 23:15.04 | StevenR | canllaith: PCMCIA ones that is |
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| 23:16.29 | canllaith | StevenR: sure. The cheapest ones too ;) |
| 23:16.36 | canllaith | rtl8139 chipset |
| 23:16.46 | StevenR | canllaith: i was gonna ebay one |
| 23:17.12 | StevenR | canllaith: else they cost real money and stuff, the card will cost me more than the lappy |
| 23:17.17 | canllaith | you want the realtek 8139 chipset, it's basically the cheapest chipset you can get in NZ for pcmcia lan cards so it will work fine. |
| 23:17.28 | StevenR | cool |
| 23:17.29 | canllaith | Really? I'm sure it's only like $25 for a card like mine, since the *wireless* card was only like $50 |
| 23:17.48 | StevenR | i'm thinking 5GBP |
| 23:18.17 | canllaith | I can't actually think of any pcmcia lan cards that don't work under linux |
| 23:18.23 | canllaith | wireless cards is iffy, network cards are fine though |
| 23:18.40 | StevenR | lappy is my dads old one 233/32/3.2, runs slack better than the windows it shipped with, gets better batt life, usb + pcmcia actually work, etc, etc, doesn't run kde though |
| 23:18.55 | canllaith | 32mb is a wee bit too low. |
| 23:19.00 | StevenR | i would need extra stuff for wireless, and i can't be bothered with it |
| 23:19.16 | StevenR | canllaith: nah, it runs fluxbox fine |
| 23:19.25 | canllaith | Yeah, bit too low for KDE though |
| 23:19.42 | StevenR | canllaith: yeah..might try and see if i can scwooch some ram for it from somewhere |
| 23:19.50 | StevenR | ooo |
| 23:20.01 | canllaith | and the WM only takes up 4MB of memory running, rather like flux |
| 23:20.15 | StevenR | coo, that's what i'm wanting |
| 23:20.46 | StevenR | i've got the APM setup pretty sweet, but i need to find out how to make suspend to disk partitions |
| 23:21.03 | canllaith | have a look at swsup2 |
| 23:21.08 | canllaith | lets you suspend to your swap partition |
| 23:21.14 | canllaith | works really well. |
| 23:21.20 | StevenR | hmmm |
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| 23:21.48 | canllaith | icewm: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/icewm.png |
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| 23:22.04 | StevenR | canllaith: including from X and stuff, so when the batter gets really low or it's been running too long it'll just suspend to disk and then work again when i power it up? |
| 23:22.05 | canllaith | You can see the traditional kicker style bar down the bottom that has system tray and clock and all that jazz |
| 23:22.28 | canllaith | StevenR: yeah it has some scripts you can use and stuff, I haven't set it up like that myself but I know it's possible |
| 23:22.41 | canllaith | and another icewm shot: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/lightapps.jpg |
| 23:23.06 | canllaith | That was my setup on 128MB 500MHz laptop recently, but then discovered KDE actually works pretty well on that and eventually bought another 128MB for the laptop to run KDE 3.3.2 properly |
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| 23:23.23 | motoom | Konqueror 3.4.1 scales pictures if they don't fit in the window. Is there a way to turn this behaviour off (like it was in previous versions)? |
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| 23:23.38 | canllaith | motoom: change your embedded image viewer |
| 23:23.52 | motoom | A very useful tip... I'll look into that |
| 23:24.00 | StevenR | canllaith: cool :)....thanks for the screenies....best thing is though...It's silent, the fan failed years ago, but it's never got hot or badnessy, just works with slack...no sound though, unsupported chipset, but it was crap anyway |
| 23:24.36 | canllaith | It's in Konqueror settings under File Associations motoom, type in 'jpg' and then go to the Embedding tab and change the viewer to 'Embeddable Image Viewer' (khtmlimage) |
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| 23:24.46 | pusling | I have tried downloading, compiling and installing a kde theme - how do I get to use it ? |
| 23:24.46 | canllaith | StevenR: cool :) My dell is silent too, he has a fan but it never comes on really |
| 23:24.56 | canllaith | pusling: kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> style |
| 23:25.28 | Minuo | Is it possible for me to get Kioslaves to use consistent mount point naming of a device? I keep my Amarok music collection on a USB HD and it gets confused whenever the device name changes |
| 23:25.28 | canllaith | StevenR: there really are some very nice low memory apps. Sylpheed really isn't a bad mail client, dillo provides a really light webbrowser for when you don't need javascript support just for surfing |
| 23:25.36 | StevenR | canllaith: i just need a name for it, and obviously i need to tell nickserv about StevenR-laptop |
| 23:25.48 | canllaith | Minuo: using udev rules ? |
| 23:26.27 | StevenR | canllaith: yeah, i know about sylpheed and dillo, it has dillo already, but i need to update it all...really the whole thing needs a software overhaul, but that won't take me too long |
| 23:26.33 | Minuo | canllaith: Is that the only way? I've been trying that, but Kubuntu uses some funky udev stuff that I've been trying to figure out |
| 23:26.47 | pusling | canllaith: hmm... it does not seem to be there ? |
| 23:27.08 | canllaith | Minuo: that's the best way to get persistant device naming. Are you familiar with writing udev rules? |
| 23:27.14 | Quinn_Storm | hey is there a known bug with the latest svn arts where it cuts off the end of [some] sounds? |
| 23:27.25 | motoom | canllaith: It works perfectly. Thank you very much for the explanation. |
| 23:27.30 | canllaith | StevenR: so basically I recommend any network card that has the realtek 8139 chipset because it's cheap, reliable, and works under just about any OS. |
| 23:27.40 | StevenR | canllaith: it just works, and it's pretty small and can balence nicely on one knee when i'm sitting if i concentrate |
| 23:27.42 | chodapp | Quinn_Storm, some audio systems will just do that because they close the audio device and it forcibly clicks |
| 23:27.45 | Minuo | canllaith: Somewhat, yes, I did it on Gentoo |
| 23:27.47 | canllaith | motoom: you're welcome. You perhaps want to do the same for png type files as well. |
| 23:27.57 | motoom | Thats what I've done already ;-) |
| 23:28.01 | chodapp | StevenR, I will second that, you can find Realtek 8139 in some $8 D-Link cards and it works great |
| 23:28.03 | Quinn_Storm | chodapp: I've never had any trouble until a very recent version of artsd |
| 23:28.09 | Quinn_Storm | chodapp: using an emu10k1 device |
| 23:28.10 | canllaith | StevenR: if the person selling it says they have the driver cd, they can prolly find out the chipset. |
| 23:28.10 | StevenR | canllaith: i fed it a slax cd and everythign just worked |
| 23:28.18 | canllaith | StevenR: awesome :) I love older laptops for that |
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| 23:28.23 | Quinn_Storm | chodapp: tried both alsa & alsa oss emulation, neither work right now |
| 23:28.42 | canllaith | StevenR: I have a 700MHz dell that is 1.5KG in weight with a 12" screen. It's a bit faster than yours but same principal. It's old enough all the hardware JustWorks really |
| 23:28.59 | StevenR | canllaith: but under win95, pcmcia and usb never worked at all, simply didn't work, no matter how much fighing we did |
| 23:29.11 | canllaith | StevenR: stuck a cheap wireless card in it and now I have a wireless ultraportable for $550 NZD |
| 23:29.15 | StevenR | canllaith: i want your laptop, fax it to me please :P |
| 23:29.29 | canllaith | battery is shot, but it's $80 to get a new generic brand one so hopefully it will work ok when it arrives. |
| 23:29.39 | chodapp | Quinn_Storm, on emu10k1? Hmm, I may have gotten that a few times, but I never used arts much |
| 23:29.41 | canllaith | StevenR: hehehe I'm in love with my baby-dell, I'm never getting rid of him |
| 23:29.45 | StevenR | :( |
| 23:30.05 | Quinn_Storm | chodapp: well I never had trouble with arts (been running svn for a while now) until I did a build at the most a week ago |
| 23:30.10 | canllaith | there is a guy at my LUG who has the identical laptop, he loves his to bits too |
| 23:30.23 | canllaith | we look at everyones 3KG huge 14 inch things that generate so much heat and laugh |
| 23:30.27 | StevenR | canllaith: the only problem is that i need to think of a name for it....have to run up kstars and find a little star with a short name (this box is called polaris) |
| 23:30.33 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:30.43 | canllaith | what a fantastic idea, using kstars to name computers |
| 23:31.00 | canllaith | this guy's network name is holly but I refer to him as baby-dell to distinguish him from my old dell which was bigger.... |
| 23:31.37 | StevenR | canllaith: i didn't use kstars originally, just always had polaris |
| 23:32.14 | StevenR | canllaith: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6786156158&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT |
| 23:32.56 | canllaith | I have a xircom modem + ethernet card somewhere |
| 23:34.29 | pusling | is it possible to tell kde that styles are in /usr/lib/kde3 and /usr/local/lib/kde3 ? |
| 23:34.40 | canllaith | you should install them to the same prefix as your KDE... |
| 23:34.49 | canllaith | but you can add that location to $KDEDIRS |
| 23:35.25 | pusling | where is $KDEDIRS defined ? |
| 23:35.36 | StevenR | canllaith: but that card should JustWork? |
| 23:35.46 | pusling | (my $KDEDIRS are empty) |
| 23:35.58 | canllaith | StevenR: no idea, it's not the same chipset. I believe xircom cards are reasonably well supported though |
| 23:36.07 | canllaith | pusling: it is defined by you, if you want to use it |
| 23:36.10 | StevenR | ok, cool |
| 23:36.43 | canllaith | StevenR: http://tuxmobil.org/pcmcia_ci10294.html |
| 23:37.00 | StevenR | canllaith:++ |
| 23:37.28 | canllaith | looks like people have indeed got them working |
| 23:37.37 | canllaith | http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/xircom.html |
| 23:37.57 | pusling | canllaith: but if I want $KDEDIRS to be set to /usr/local/blabla all the time - and not while I run KDEDIR=blabla kcontrol |
| 23:37.58 | StevenR | canllaith: the irda may or may not work too, have to put my gf's phone near it and see |
| 23:38.02 | canllaith | oh wow, and people are getting them working with 2.2 |
| 23:38.09 | canllaith | pusling: then you set it in the rc file for your shell |
| 23:38.10 | StevenR | 2.2? |
| 23:38.15 | canllaith | StevenR: kernel ;) |
| 23:38.19 | canllaith | eg, they've been working a long time |
| 23:38.19 | StevenR | :o |
| 23:38.23 | StevenR | cool |
| 23:38.51 | canllaith | So it's reasonable to hope that you could get it to work (but I'd never call it a forgone conclusion, not unless you were to say, buy my card from me that I have had working on slack and know works =p) |
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| 23:39.14 | canllaith | ... and even then it's possible that rains of fire could land on your house, causing you to not get it working. I mean, anything could happen ;) |
| 23:40.07 | Quinn_Storm | ok, I've narrowed it down |
| 23:40.11 | Quinn_Storm | arts only does it on playing ogg files |
| 23:40.21 | Quinn_Storm | is there a package I may need to update/recompile that arts uses to play ogg files? |
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| 23:40.54 | aseigo | libogg? the ogg/vorbis stuff in general |
| 23:40.59 | _Bradders | Morning all! |
| 23:41.09 | aseigo | evening =) |
| 23:41.25 | Quinn_Storm | ok, just wondering if there was anything else |
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| 23:41.45 | canllaith | StevenR: oh and try not to get one with a dongle, they're bloody annoying |
| 23:42.11 | StevenR | yeah, i want a fat card with an rj45 in it |
| 23:42.20 | czheng | hi folks... anyone willing to help with a tiny problem? |
| 23:43.00 | Quinn_Storm | the weird thing is ogg123 and oggdec, which both presumably also use libvorbis, work fine... |
| 23:43.23 | Quinn_Storm | I mean I tested this by using artsplay $file.ogg, ogg123 $file.ogg, oggdec $file.ogg -o $file.wav, artsplay $file.wav |
| 23:43.49 | canllaith | czheng: we dont know until you ask :) |
| 23:44.07 | czheng | i cannot get links to open in Firefox... even after using KControl Component Chooser and editing the .desktop file to include a %u... perhaps it's because the command is not simply "firefox" or "mozilla-firefox" but "/opt/Mozilla/Firefox/firefox"... anyway, can't figure out how to resolve it |
| 23:44.32 | czheng | (links from other programs, e.g. Kmail, etc) |
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| 23:46.34 | thomas_ | #phpBB |
| 23:49.25 | ryanoe | Anyone here have FEDORA CORE 4? I have a printer that was setup via HAL, and I tried a test print and nothing, so I removed the HAL location, now I can't even try to "AUTO" install my SUPPORTED Epson printer in Fedora Core 4, it is a USB printer |
| 23:49.52 | canllaith | best to ask in #fedora or the cups channel if there is one |
| 23:50.11 | ryanoe | okay |
| 23:53.19 | czheng | canllaith: apologies... wrong button |
| 23:54.07 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:54.26 | canllaith | awwww |
| 23:54.54 | StevenR | canllaith: nik can't even feel most of her face |
| 23:55.04 | canllaith | poor girl :( |
| 23:55.04 | StevenR | canllaith: lucky u :( |
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| 23:55.52 | canllaith | StevenR: http://www.chocolatetherapy.com/Shoc/schoc tablets.html |
| 23:55.55 | canllaith | It's heavenly |
| 23:55.58 | StevenR | canllaith: me--boss relations have been better today, they still don't seem to quite understnad that i don't like being managed |
| 23:56.18 | Other_ | can anyone explain why when building kdesdk, my pc is identified as 686 |
| 23:56.24 | canllaith | good that it is better today |
| 23:56.35 | Other_ | is depends on what? this only happens for kdesdk... |
| 23:56.41 | StevenR | canllaith: !!! I WANT !!!! *STOMP* |
| 23:58.12 | Other_ | no listen me :( |
| 23:59.05 | Minuo | I'm having an issue with kioslaves - I have a USB HD that I want to show up as a removeable device to kioslaves, but I always want it to have the same name. I've gotten udev to always give it /dev/usbhd1, but it is also coming up as /dev/sd[a-z]1 and that is what kioslaves pickes up. Can I get kioslaves to pick up /dev/usbhd1? |
| 23:59.06 | StevenR | Other_: what's wrong? |
| 23:59.21 | Other_ | <Other_> can anyone explain why when building kdesdk, my pc is identified as 686 |
| 23:59.25 | Other_ | <Other_> is depends on what? this only happens for kdesdk... |
| 23:59.26 | grepper | Other_: you haven't said what your computer *is* |
| 23:59.29 | canllaith | ahhh Minuo you need to use /dev/usdbd1 in your fstab |
| 23:59.36 | StevenR | Minuo: it reads the entries from /etc/fstab |
| 23:59.39 | Other_ | is asus laptop 32 bits |
| 23:59.39 | canllaith | make a mount point for it, put it in fstab |
| 23:59.42 | canllaith | unless you're using hal |
| 23:59.50 | canllaith | Other_: there is nothing wrong with it, don't worry about it |
