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00:01.33 | Urua | so artsplay is unable to play ogg files now |
00:02.01 | Razor-X | I just use ogg123 meself |
00:02.09 | Razor-X | using cplay as a frontend, of course |
00:02.27 | Urua | Well kinda ruins the KDE soundsystem of playing anysound |
00:03.09 | Urua | kpoker plays sounds since they are wavs |
00:03.32 | Urua | if I use ogg123, and it uses the aRts plugin, it dies too |
00:03.46 | StevenR | Urua: sounds like your arts if broken then |
00:04.04 | Razor-X | odd.... |
00:04.21 | Urua | damn |
00:04.22 | Razor-X | I have ogg123 playing to arts, and it's fine |
00:04.59 | Urua | I try ogg123 once, it tries aRts and returns 'Killed' if I use the same command line again... ogg123 uses alsa |
00:05.03 | Urua | and it works |
00:05.26 | kendrick | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107691 |
00:05.29 | StevenR | Urua: hence my conclusion, arts == broken....recompile it i think |
00:05.44 | Urua | this is my 3rd time recompiling it |
00:06.29 | StevenR | Urua: check that it is including ogg/vorbis support |
00:06.55 | Urua | hmm it is version arts-3.4.1-r2... maybe if I try r1 |
00:07.23 | Urua | I am searching the gnetoo forums |
00:07.57 | Urua | *gentoo |
00:10.46 | StevenR | Urua: arts latest version is 1.4.1 |
00:12.01 | Urua | wow, they just spit out updates |
00:12.11 | kendrick | uh... is it me, or does Konqueror not have an "Empty Trash" option in any of it's menus? |
00:12.19 | Urua | I am also seeing if I need a newer version of vorbis libs and such |
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00:13.25 | Urua | right click on trash to empty it |
00:14.48 | morgajel | alright, posted my bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93113 |
00:15.10 | Urua | also, not all of KInfoCenter is working for me.. sighs |
00:17.12 | Urua | brb |
00:21.36 | kendrick | Urua, but my Konqueror window is full-screen |
00:21.42 | kendrick | and i cannot see the Trash on the desktop |
00:21.45 | kendrick | but I'm looking IN the trash :) |
00:21.58 | kendrick | hrm, apparently, i broke konq, though |
00:22.14 | StevenR | kendrick: right click on the file space in trash view |
00:22.23 | kendrick | yeah, i know |
00:22.25 | kendrick | that's lame |
00:22.37 | StevenR | yes, there should be a menu option |
00:22.40 | kendrick | if you can do it with right-click, you DEFINITELY should be able to do it WITHOUT right-click |
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00:26.08 | ritalin | does kde have a application for opening portS? |
00:26.56 | StevenR | ritalin: what exactly do you mean? |
00:27.43 | ritalin | well heres my issue: I cant get bittorrent to work on my machine |
00:27.52 | ritalin | ive tried several different clients |
00:28.01 | ritalin | im just wondering if i have some port blocked |
00:28.17 | ritalin | it isnt my network cause it works on my laptop and other desktop |
00:28.23 | ritalin | any ideas? |
00:28.32 | StevenR | ritalin: do you have a fireall setup? |
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00:29.12 | kendrick | hrm, once browsed into a folder, is there a way to have Konq 'switch' to root mode? |
00:29.23 | kendrick | (like "Browse here as superuser") |
00:29.55 | StevenR | kendrick: could open with kdesu konqueror |
00:30.07 | kendrick | how? |
00:30.26 | ritalin | StevenR: not sure |
00:30.28 | kendrick | it'd be nice to have a service for it, i guess |
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00:30.37 | kendrick | like, right now, i can right-click and say "OPen Terminal Here" |
00:30.44 | StevenR | ritalin: nmap yourself and find out |
00:30.57 | StevenR | ritalin: and check any setup you have...eg yast |
00:31.47 | kendrick | woah |
00:32.01 | kendrick | i'm running kdesu konq, but i cannot change permissions of /media/keychain0/guest/Mail |
00:32.18 | kendrick | ack! where'd my files go!? |
00:33.22 | kendrick | is there a KDE 'fsck' tool? :) |
00:34.08 | kendrick | woah! i can't drag a file to my K menu! |
00:34.41 | kendrick | (I wanted to drag to K, then pull open System, then More Applications, and drop it on the root File Manager) |
00:34.57 | ritalin | StevenR: PORT STATE SERVICE |
00:34.57 | ritalin | 22/tcp open ssh |
00:34.57 | ritalin | 25/tcp open smtp |
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00:35.04 | ritalin | thats what nmap shows |
00:35.36 | aljosa | anybody here uses o-r mapper for c++ or python? |
00:36.56 | StevenR | ritalin: you need to find out if something is forcing the bittorrent ports to be kept closed....and that is distro specific |
00:38.09 | ritalin | I see |
00:38.25 | ritalin | What distro do you use? |
00:38.33 | StevenR | slackware -current |
00:38.35 | ritalin | Im not even on a linux, Freebsd here |
00:38.55 | ritalin | how is slackware? |
00:39.26 | StevenR | slackware is good. i can't help with *bsd, not used them much at all |
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00:43.17 | kendrick | man, i'm on a roll :) |
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00:51.08 | kendrick | shit! |
00:51.30 | kendrick | i thought if you dragged a file on top of a folder (or some other browsable thing, like a fish:/), that it would pop up a window if you hovered long enough |
00:51.34 | kendrick | maybe that was my mac :) |
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00:51.49 | ama | yo |
00:52.24 | canllaith | It does if you turn it on I think |
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00:52.29 | kendrick | oh, where? |
00:53.07 | canllaith | Hrm that's a good question, even I get confused by konqi preferences |
00:53.08 | canllaith | moment |
00:53.16 | kendrick | hehe |
00:53.25 | kendrick | they STILL haven't changed the icons in Konq's configure |
00:53.43 | kendrick | having three icons that look like a file cabinet, and three that look like konq logos is confusing |
00:53.53 | kendrick | i should submit something to that new kde art site :) |
00:54.23 | canllaith | I find it not confusing, because I can read. |
00:54.28 | kendrick | hehe :) |
00:54.37 | canllaith | I am sure there was an option! |
00:54.41 | canllaith | Perhaps I am delusional |
00:54.41 | kendrick | well, i'm a man, s oi'm much more visual :) |
00:54.46 | kendrick | i watch tv... my wife reads :) |
00:54.51 | kendrick | okay, time to submit a wishlist then! :) |
00:55.11 | canllaith | Mine does it by default |
00:55.19 | canllaith | If I hover a dropped file over a folder it springs open |
00:55.31 | kendrick | which KDE vers? |
00:55.35 | canllaith | 3.4.1 |
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00:57.26 | kendrick | damn :( :( |
00:58.38 | kendrick | ugh |
00:58.47 | kendrick | sometimes when i click an icon to select it, it opens :^( |
00:59.05 | kendrick | it's as though it thinks i'm double-clicking, just because i clicked another, different file, <1s ago :( |
00:59.37 | ama | im still using kde 3.3.0 |
01:00.23 | kendrick | weird... there IS a 3.4.1 dir over at alioth |
01:00.37 | kendrick | oh, huh... *shrug* now it works, wtf :) |
01:00.41 | kendrick | +s |
01:00.50 | kendrick | woo! 253 upgraded packages :) |
01:00.58 | kendrick | i'll stop submitting wishlists now ;) |
01:01.03 | kendrick | time to clean the office... thx canllaith |
01:01.20 | canllaith | You should file them under the right category too |
01:01.21 | canllaith | kmenu = kicker |
01:02.00 | kendrick | oh hey, shit... |
01:02.04 | kendrick | yeah :) |
01:02.17 | kendrick | i guess i was thinking of it as a konq thing, since i'm dragging from konq... but, duh :) |
01:02.43 | kendrick | bah! where's the easy "Report Bug" link in Kicker, eh? |
01:02.49 | kendrick | i should file a bug report for Konq about that ;) |
01:03.02 | canllaith | lol there is one surely |
01:03.06 | canllaith | if not I'll fix it |
01:03.14 | canllaith | Aye there is |
01:03.31 | canllaith | Right click on the kmenu -> Panel menu -> Help -> Report bug |
01:05.09 | kendrick | yeah, there it is :) |
01:05.17 | kendrick | i didn't get enough sleep last night, or enough food today ;) |
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01:18.53 | Stonie | What is everyones favorite MP3 player / jukebox for Linux? |
01:19.06 | StevenR | amarok |
01:19.11 | canllaith | amaroK |
01:19.16 | canllaith | and noatun, sometimes. (Hey, it's cute.) |
01:19.43 | StevenR | heya canllaith, hows things? |
01:19.49 | canllaith | Good thanks :) |
01:20.16 | StevenR | :) |
01:20.34 | Stonie | where can I get Amarok? |
01:20.50 | StevenR | amarok.kde.org |
01:21.16 | ama | i like amarok too |
01:21.20 | ama | before that i used juk |
01:21.50 | Stonie | thx |
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01:29.02 | annma | amarok ++ |
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01:35.04 | sophie_msumu | hello |
01:35.37 | sophie_msumu | I d like to know how to customize my kdm :) |
01:37.37 | sophie_msumu | kde 3.3 on slackware 10.1 |
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01:46.54 | StevenR | sophie_msumu: kcontrol, system admin section |
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01:53.11 | sophie_msumu | StevenR: I d like to install new kdm themes and I ve just read that it s impossible :( |
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02:13.49 | Octane | anyone know of a good ksim theme |
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02:32.10 | Alethes | depends on your desktop theme |
02:32.16 | Alethes | you can use anything that's made for gkrellm |
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02:54.55 | User_X | anyone? |
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03:22.31 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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04:17.52 | Puma82 | heloo, Im have troule with kopete saying my username or password is invalid |
04:18.01 | Puma82 | trouble* |
04:18.08 | Puma82 | for MSN |
04:18.17 | Puma82 | AIM works fine |
04:20.00 | mobtek | might be an msn prob Puma82 |
04:20.14 | Puma82 | nope |
04:20.18 | Puma82 | gaim works fine |
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04:20.36 | Puma82 | but that thing is gaff |
04:21.29 | Puma82 | Im using KDE 3.3 |
04:21.40 | Puma82 | Mandriva LE 2005 |
04:21.46 | Puma82 | if that helps |
04:22.01 | Alethes | there's a new release of kopete that fixes that bug |
04:22.22 | Puma82 | how do I see what version im running |
04:22.45 | Alethes | Help/About Kopete |
04:23.23 | Puma82 | 0.9.2 |
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04:23.30 | TVSET | hi |
04:23.46 | Puma82 | crap thats the bad version |
04:23.50 | TVSET | I'm trying to run this command: konsole --nohist --nomenubar --noframe --noscrollbar --schema Transparent.schema -tn xterm -e 'tail -f /var/log/messages' |
04:24.03 | TVSET | but I get this error: Uh oh.. can't get terminal attributes.. |
04:24.16 | TVSET | how can I fix it? |
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04:29.11 | johnf | So where is the IRC channel for kdevelop? |
04:32.05 | grepper | is that a trick question ? |
04:32.23 | Alethes | haha |
04:32.44 | sbcl3 | #kdevelop |
04:33.07 | grepper | damn, I knew it ! It was a trick question |
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04:35.05 | johnf | thanks but for some reason I can't get to kdevelop! |
04:35.48 | sbcl3 | type "/join #kdevelop" |
04:35.51 | sbcl3 | odd |
04:35.56 | sbcl3 | ./join #kdevelop |
04:36.00 | johnf | Sorry it's working now - just I'm the only person??? |
04:36.03 | sbcl3 | type that but without the period |
04:36.10 | sbcl3 | what server are you on? |
04:36.25 | sbcl3 | did you get on via irc.freenode.net? |
04:36.30 | sbcl3 | or irc.kde.org? |
04:36.40 | johnf | brown.freenode.net |
04:37.41 | Puma82 | is there a kopete rpm |
04:38.12 | johnf | I'm using KVIrc - I'm new to it. |
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04:42.46 | TVSET | how can I do "Window options-->Advanced-->No border" from the script for some window? |
04:43.11 | canllaith | TVSET, kstart |
04:43.44 | TVSET | canllaith: thanks! |
04:45.16 | canllaith | kstart --help shows you all, and it can do some very cool things |
04:45.39 | TVSET | canllaith: yes, I see. But --noborder is not there ;) |
04:47.23 | grepper | kstart --type Override |
04:47.25 | grepper | I think |
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04:49.28 | TVSET | nope. --type Desktop is without border, but it is full screen ;) |
04:49.36 | TVSET | anyway, I'll go through all of them ;) |
04:50.26 | grepper | works for me |
04:51.09 | TVSET | oh, yes. I just misspelled it ;) |
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04:55.10 | TVSET | hmm... if I add --skippager to kstart than the border reappears |
04:55.11 | TVSET | :) |
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06:34.04 | arrummzen | Hello |
06:34.25 | arrummzen | Is there a way for me to force kdesktop_lock to lock my desktop when grabInput() fails? |
06:35.12 | arrummzen | And kdesktop_lock --forcelock also fails... |
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07:25.21 | spiral | hi |
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08:57.09 | dkeffyn | hi all, question on themes, why can I not get any to work |
08:57.58 | dkeffyn | I download theme after theme from kde-look but I cant get them to work :( if I browse to a .theme or .ktheme I cant even see them |
09:03.31 | PhilRod | can you load them in control center -> appearance & themes -> themes? |
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09:10.00 | dkeffyn | PhilOut, no I cant |
09:10.09 | dkeffyn | that is where I am trying to load them |
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09:42.50 | Frost^ | does konqueror support spell checking in web forms? |
09:43.58 | mart_k | Frost^: Here it does... |
09:44.09 | Frost^ | do you know how to enable it? |
09:45.20 | dkeffyn | I am looking for a MAC OS X theme for KDE, is there a suggested one around? |
09:45.37 | dkeffyn | I cant find any themes that work on this darn machine |
09:45.48 | mart_k | Frost^: Have you configured spell checking in the kde configuration menu? |
09:45.55 | dkeffyn | anything from kde-lookn doesnt work |
09:46.34 | Frost^ | mart_k, can you please show me the way? |
09:46.52 | Frost^ | kcontrol -> kde components -> spell checker |
09:46.55 | Frost^ | that's where I am |
09:47.09 | mart_k | Frost^: I think that is the place to setup it. |
09:47.09 | Frost^ | do I need to check the 2 checkboxes? |
09:47.35 | mart_k | Frost^: I have both unchecked. |
09:48.14 | Frost^ | mart_k, same here, but I don't have any spell checking enabled |
09:48.29 | mart_k | Frost^: The importent setting there are other options: dict. and client. |
09:48.50 | Frost^ | mart_k, what do you have selected there? |
09:49.37 | mart_k | Frost^: Default - Dutch for dictionairy and ASpell as client. |
09:50.12 | mart_k | Frost^: This settings works if you have "aspell" with the right dictionairy installed. |
09:51.29 | Frost^ | mart_k, trying |
09:51.53 | mart_k | dkeffyn: Baghira is a theme that looks like Mac OS X. |
09:52.42 | mart_k | Frost^: You can check if you have aspell (or ispell) installed by typing "aspell" resp. "ispell" in Konsole. |
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09:54.25 | Frost^ | mart_k, looks like I had aspell installed but no dictionary for it. no wonder it didn't work |
09:54.27 | Frost^ | thanks a lot |
09:55.03 | mart_k | Frost^: np. |
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10:09.47 | Julianyus | hi |
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10:10.52 | earthsound | does kde have a gui user editor? |
10:11.39 | mart_k | earthsound: What do you mean with "gui user editor"? |
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10:12.15 | earthsound | a user editor, w/ a graphical user interface |
10:12.23 | whirm | earthsound: kuser= |
10:12.24 | earthsound | ...something that I can use to manage users/groups |
10:12.25 | whirm | ? |
10:12.52 | earthsound | thanks whirm :) |
10:13.03 | whirm | nothing :) |
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10:32.01 | dkeffyn | is there anyway to find an rpm of baghira |
10:32.14 | dkeffyn | I cant get cvs or tarball to comile correctly |
10:33.30 | mart_k | dkeffyn: There are several in rpmfind.net, but I don't know if there is one for your distribution / version. |
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10:33.53 | mart_k | dkeffyn: What is the error during compiling? |
10:34.03 | earthsound | anyone have any experience w/ HPLIP and kdeprint? |
10:35.40 | dkeffyn | checking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... no |
10:35.49 | dkeffyn | a whole bunch of those |
10:36.31 | mart_k | dkeffyn: Have you installed the compiler? |
10:36.41 | dkeffyn | but I will wait until yea |
10:36.52 | dkeffyn | I am upgrading to FC4 |
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10:37.02 | dkeffyn | I will wait until it is finished |
10:38.25 | mart_k | dkeffyn: If you can't find a rpm, it is always possible to compile it (the packages needed for that are easier to find). |
10:38.46 | dkeffyn | yea true |
10:38.58 | dkeffyn | I was just hoping it would be a simple fix :) |
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10:39.47 | mart_k | dkeffyn: If is usefull anyway if you can compile something: not for every program is a rpm available. |
10:40.25 | dkeffyn | yea I will normally do that, but in the case of a simple theme I was hoping to not have to compile a buch of stugg |
10:40.31 | dkeffyn | sgg/suff |
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10:50.56 | Flendor | Hello |
10:57.27 | bluelightning | interesting... I just found why I was having problems playing movies smoothly on my desktop |
10:57.59 | bluelightning | kicker was spiking its CPU usage every once in a while |
10:58.49 | bluelightning | I had added kasbar to kicker a few days ago, then hid it using the arrow button at the left... using the menus showed that it was still "added", but I can't see how to get it back |
10:59.13 | bluelightning | still, removing it fixed the CPU usage problem and movies are playing smoothly again |
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12:44.53 | nct | Hi. With QT4, is it possible to set some environment variable so that Arthur uses OpenGL as a backend? Is it possible to create QWidgets over a QGLWidget so that they are rendered using OpenGL ? There is no such demo in rc1 |
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12:45.52 | PhilRod | nct: #kde-devel or #qt are more likely to know |
12:46.10 | nct | PhilRod, already asked on #qt, I will ask on #kde-devel, thx |
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13:08.58 | steffenstrobel | hello everybody, i have a problem with a k menu entry: between "control center" and the "utilitys" menu, i have a kpdf entry, i can not remove it with the menu editor! i had something simillar with kaffeine, but i removed a .desktop file and it was gone... perhaps i need to do this again, but what file should i remove? I think these "sticky" entrys are sometimes made wehn i start a kde application from the konsole... |
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13:11.07 | PhilRod | the K menu is stored in ~/.config/menus - you could try manually editing one of the XML files there |
13:11.18 | steffenstrobel | one small addition: the stickiy entrys are under the "All Applications" Section, and not most used etc.! |
13:12.59 | steffenstrobel | PhilRod: thanks for your tip, but the KPDF entry is not in this file |
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13:19.58 | Venson | steffenstrobel: look in ~/.local/share/applications/ ? |
13:20.50 | steffenstrobel | Venson: also thanks, there a a few .desktop files, but not a KPDF related file... |
13:21.42 | Venson | steffenstrobel: if i were you, i'd run a grep on the kde folder for kpdf (might give you a bunch of results to look at, but that's better than nothing) |
13:22.02 | Venson | steffenstrobel: grep "kpdf" -rsinH ~/.kde |
13:22.15 | thiago | try "locate kpdf.desktop" first |
13:22.26 | thiago | it might be in $KDEDIR instead |
13:22.49 | Venson | hmm..that's right...gotta alienate the problem first..good call |
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13:27.25 | anisX | Happy Father`s Day!!! |
13:27.28 | anisX | :D |
13:27.39 | steffenstrobel | thiago and Venson: i did a find . -name kpdf.desktop -print in / and the only file found was ./usr/kde/3.4/share/applications/kde/kpdf.desktop |
13:28.31 | Venson | steffenstrobel: try moving that somewhere else...see if it disappears...or else the problem is elsewhere |
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13:30.29 | steffenstrobel | Venson: it's now awawy from the Grphics menu, but its still in the main menu |
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13:33.42 | bemused0 | okay |
13:33.51 | bemused0 | ie looked all over, i hope someone i alive |
13:34.07 | AL13N | so, about kdelirc |
13:34.08 | bemused0 | does anyone know ohw to specify which packages/apps will be compiled when using konstruct |
13:34.26 | AL13N | i got kdelirc working, well, at least, it recognizes my remote |
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13:34.43 | AL13N | but when i press add action, the whole app hangs |
13:35.17 | steffenstrobel | Venson: hey, i have found the problem: i removed .kde/share/applnk/kpdf_part.desktop from my homedirectory.... |
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14:00.57 | Venson | steffenstrobel: excellent...good work |
14:03.06 | steffenstrobel | Venson: i have to thank for your grep tip, in the grep output if found that file, and when i right klicked in konqeror/applications i also saw this file, but could not remove it, and now grep showed me where it was... One mor thing, could you please write steffenstrobel: test or something like that (want to try the konversation osd menu :) )... |
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14:03.39 | Venson | steffenstrobel: test |
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14:04.08 | lethal_ | any nice code editor? (besides quanta) |
14:04.11 | steffenstrobel | Venson: ok thanks, osd works, but the fonts look not antialised... |
14:04.19 | Venson | lethal_: Kdevelop |
14:04.22 | Venson | lethal_: Kate |
14:04.27 | Venson | lethal_: depends on what you want to code |
14:04.57 | Venson | steffenstrobel: have you turned on AA in the KDE Control Center? |
14:05.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | how do you change the keyboard map in KDE? |
14:06.30 | steffenstrobel | Venson: i think i found the problem, there was some strange font set, i changed it to bitream vera sans and now i hope it looks as beautiful as in other kde apps! could you send me a steffenstrobel: abc message again to test? |
14:06.51 | Venson | Kamping_Kaiser: Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout |
14:07.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | thanks |
14:07.09 | Venson | steffenstrobel: abc message age to test? :) |
14:07.19 | Venson | *again |
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14:08.18 | steffenstrobel | Venson: thanks, the mesage font is now great, but the Konversation OSD title still looks a litte bit old fashioned :) |
14:08.35 | Venson | :) |
14:09.15 | steffenstrobel | Venson: one more steffenstrobel: 123 please (the last one) :) |
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14:12.35 | lethal_ | Venson, its for C/java/etc... i'm looking for something simple like a notepad, but with tabs, syntax highlighting, identation and nothing more |
14:14.03 | whirm | lethal_: kate |
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14:16.18 | StevenR | lethal_: there's kwrite |
14:17.11 | lethal_ | whirm, StevenR i'll try it, thanks :) |
14:21.19 | TenJack | did anyone else notice that the Qt4 header files got moved around? |
14:21.30 | TenJack | now the kdelibs4 ./configure script hates me :-( |
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14:33.53 | Venson | i love Kate |
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14:38.55 | tam | is there a problem in kde 3.4 with kontact and rss feed? |
14:39.18 | steffenstrobel | Venson: could you please send me one last steffenstrobel: test message? ( i hope that now sound, osd, and blinking icon notification are working...) THANKS! |
14:39.27 | Venson | steffenstrobel: test |
14:39.52 | steffenstrobel | Venson: THANKS! everything now works as desired!!! :) |
14:40.01 | Venson | steffenstrobel: nice |
14:40.04 | thiago | tam: no |
14:41.01 | StevenR | tam: if you mean akregator, then i didn't notice any problems |
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14:41.35 | lippel | tam: akregator or feeds in summary page? |
14:41.49 | tam | sorry, i actually meant akregator guys |
14:41.57 | tam | tam@spud:~$ akregator & |
14:41.57 | tam | [1] 25498 |
14:41.57 | tam | tam@spud:~$ |
14:41.57 | tam | [1]+ Done akregator |
14:42.11 | tam | nothing appears |
14:42.27 | thiago | tam: not even in the systray? |
14:42.30 | StevenR | tam: is kontact running? |
14:42.31 | lippel | tam: do you have the part loaded in kontact? |
14:42.45 | tam | in kontact it says its a standalone program |
14:42.53 | tam | and kontact is running. |
14:43.06 | lippel | do killall -9 akregator and try again |
14:43.49 | tam | lippel: i actually forgot about that! thanks. it worked first time. i wonder why it didn't actually work first time tho'. thanks for the tip once again |
14:44.20 | lippel | tam: there was no systray icon before the kill? |
14:44.36 | tam | lippel: nope. 100% not |
14:46.01 | AL13N | i got kdelirc working, well, at least, it recognizes my remote, but when i press add action, the whole app hangs; anyone has the same problem? |
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14:56.49 | StevenR | AL13N: can you add a mode? |
14:57.17 | AL13N | i think so, if i press it, it reacts |
14:58.23 | AL13N | yes, i can |
14:59.05 | AL13N | when clicking on add action, the appl hangs, doesn't redraw and after a while, there's an app doesn't react window |
14:59.13 | AL13N | StevenR: what do you think it is? |
14:59.40 | StevenR | AL13N: are you trying to add actions without modes? |
14:59.56 | StevenR | AL13N: add a mode, and then try to add an action to the mode |
15:01.10 | StevenR | AL13N: check the logfiles for errors, eg ~/.xsession-errors |
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15:01.36 | AL13N | i tried first, but now i added an action to a mode "test" i added |
15:01.47 | AL13N | xsession-errors??? |
15:01.54 | AL13N | what does that have to do with irkick? |
15:02.50 | thiago | that's where every output goes for programs not started in a terminal |
15:02.55 | Latem | for some reason my desktop icons always rearange themselves when I login into KDE, like I order them the way I want, and set Align to Grid, and they rearrage on login, but are still aligned to grid. I do not have any sorting on. (KDE 3.3.2, Mandriva LE 2005). Any ideas? |
15:03.09 | StevenR | AL13N: it's an X app isn't it, running in an X session, so any errors it has will be there |
15:03.42 | StevenR | Latem: do you have kde set to create icons for mounted cdroms etc? |
15:04.09 | Latem | there is no CDRom icon, but i do have a floppy and zip disk icon |
15:04.18 | Latem | and when i put in a cd a cd icon appears |
15:04.21 | Latem | so I think yes |
15:04.30 | Latem | i dont know where do I check that?> |
15:04.47 | StevenR | Latem: disable that setting in the desktop properties, right click, select configure desktop or whatever it is |
15:04.52 | thiago | Latem: fixed on Subversion |
15:05.02 | Latem | oh jeez |
15:05.04 | Latem | ok |
15:05.12 | Latem | mandriva sucks |
15:05.17 | Latem | i should switch |
15:05.22 | StevenR | thiago: is it fixed in any release? or will be in the next one? |
15:05.27 | Latem | it's so bad for updating kde |
15:05.30 | thiago | StevenR: KDE 3.5 only |
15:05.31 | Latem | and its always behind |
15:05.38 | AL13N | StevenR: adding a mode gives the following: http://pastebin.com/301820 |
15:05.59 | AL13N | adding an action does nothing except crash not irkick, but that config window |
15:06.04 | AL13N | well not crash, more like hang |
15:06.15 | StevenR | AL13N: i have no idea what those error mean |
15:06.32 | AL13N | well, they are X errors |
15:06.37 | Latem | thiago, you use Mandriva? |
15:06.56 | AL13N | but the adding mode works |
15:07.05 | StevenR | AL13N: can you add an action to the mode? |
15:07.08 | Venson | i thought 3.4 would be the last..then kde 4.0...oh well..there's joy in updating kde |
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15:07.25 | AL13N | StevenR: no, pressing that button hangs this window |
15:07.29 | StevenR | Venson: 3.5, then 4.0 afaik |
15:07.34 | AL13N | it doesn't redraw anymore |
15:07.37 | StevenR | AL13N: maybe you need to update kde? |
15:07.46 | AL13N | kde 3.3.2 |
15:07.48 | StevenR | AL13N: or at least irkick? |
15:08.04 | Venson | StevenR: gotcha...any idea when it is due? I'm poking around kde.org now |
15:08.10 | AL13N | i don't think kdelirc has changed much since kde 3.3.2 |
15:08.25 | AL13N | at least the SVN didn't list any changes since then |
15:08.41 | StevenR | AL13N: what is this kdelirc, it doesn't exist here |
15:08.50 | thiago | Latem: yes and no :) |
15:09.02 | thiago | Latem: I use Conectiva |
15:09.02 | AL13N | kdelirc is the package name |
15:09.06 | AL13N | thiago: lol |
15:09.08 | Latem | oh ok, so how do you keep up your KDE |
15:09.15 | Latem | u compile from source? |
15:09.23 | Latem | up to date* |
15:09.28 | thiago | yes |
15:09.30 | Latem | god I cant type |
15:09.32 | AL13N | kdelirc is in kdeutils-common |
15:09.33 | thiago | every week, or every other week |
15:09.44 | AL13N | it contains irkick and kcmlirc |
15:09.50 | Latem | so does MCC have any problems with you doing that? |
15:09.59 | Latem | or you compile EVERYTHING from source |
15:10.00 | AL13N | irkick is the tray thing, and kcmlirc is the config app |
15:10.34 | StevenR | AL13N: so there isn't actually anything called kdelirc |
15:10.49 | AL13N | it's a subpackage of kdeutils-common |
15:10.52 | thiago | Latem: I don't have MCC |
15:10.59 | thiago | Latem: there's no such thing |
15:11.01 | Latem | og |
15:11.02 | AL13N | thiago: not yet ;-)? |
15:11.03 | Latem | h right |
15:11.04 | Latem | sorry |
15:11.12 | thiago | AL13N: maybe :) |
15:11.27 | StevenR | AL13N: what distro? |
15:11.30 | thiago | AL13N: I'll be using Mandriva (proper) when I can upgrade. |
15:11.33 | AL13N | thiago: hehe, i think MCC is a great tool and connectiva's config apps should fit in great |
15:11.37 | thiago | AL13N: right now, Mandriva 2005 would be a downgrade |
15:11.44 | AL13N | thiago: 't would |
15:11.47 | Latem | yea for sure |
15:12.03 | AL13N | thiago: so you are going to try mandrivis 2006 then ;-) ? |
15:12.09 | thiago | AL13N: yes |
15:12.18 | AL13N | notice the name change ;-) |
15:12.29 | thiago | I did :) |
15:12.36 | thiago | maybe they should add a y somewhere |
15:12.38 | AL13N | i donno what it will be, of course |
15:12.50 | thiago | all I know is that it'll be smart-based |
15:12.52 | AL13N | myndriva ? |
15:12.56 | AL13N | smart ? |
15:13.05 | AL13N | what is smart? |
15:13.06 | thiago | yes. Death to urpmi! :) |
15:13.14 | AL13N | thiago: oh no |
15:13.22 | AL13N | urpmi is great |
15:13.26 | thiago | urpmi will be provided, of course |
15:13.28 | thiago | same with apt-get |
15:13.34 | thiago | but the default should be smart |
15:13.46 | AL13N | i thought they will merge some features from smart to urpmi and make that default |
15:13.54 | thiago | yes, make smart the default :) |
15:14.05 | thiago | merge the urpmi features into it |
15:14.11 | AL13N | thiago: i don't see how that would be possible |
15:14.25 | AL13N | with their mirrors and stuff |
15:14.32 | AL13N | i donno |
15:14.40 | thiago | I don't see a problem |
15:14.42 | AL13N | for all i know, they could use autopackage as standard ;-) |
15:14.59 | thiago | IIUC, smart is already used to upgrade from 2005 to Cooker |
15:15.10 | AL13N | StevenR: i use mandriva's 2005 |
15:15.15 | Latem | i just hope it will make it easier to upgrade software, especially KDE |
15:15.21 | AL13N | thiago: no? |
15:15.34 | thiago | Latem: that's mostly a policy of making consistent packages |
15:15.42 | thiago | Latem: but even Conectiva had problems sometimes with KDE upgrades |
15:15.43 | AL13N | on what is smart based actually? |
15:15.49 | thiago | AL13N: Python |
15:16.05 | AL13N | yeah, but is it binary or source? |
15:16.05 | StevenR | AL13N: mandriva seems to have the wierdest packagingness... |
15:16.14 | thiago | AL13N: it's Python :) |
15:16.18 | AL13N | StevenR: what do you mean? |
15:16.32 | thiago | StevenR: Mandrake had some weird policies, yes. Conectiva had saner ones. |
15:16.38 | thiago | 600 packages for KDE. |
15:16.41 | AL13N | yeah |
15:16.42 | StevenR | AL13N: all these packages and subpackages and kdeutils=common and things all split up |
15:16.50 | AL13N | but i think that that's a strength of urpmi |
15:16.51 | StevenR | thiago: 600? yikes! |
15:17.09 | thiago | StevenR: why would you want to install docs for all languages? |
15:17.11 | AL13N | StevenR: hey, you install what you want |
15:17.25 | StevenR | thiago: i don't |
15:17.32 | AL13N | or just kate for example, without all the others |
15:17.42 | StevenR | thiago: they're in the separate i18n packages, thankfully |
15:17.49 | thiago | StevenR: exactly. So the packages are split by languages. |
15:18.10 | AL13N | so that's already 30 something i18n packages |
15:18.34 | StevenR | thiago: slackware has kdebase, kdelibs, etc, etc....then it has i18n packages, one for each language. |
15:18.41 | AL13N | and every program is more or less separate |
15:18.59 | AL13N | kdebase-kate |
15:19.04 | AL13N | kdeutils-kdf |
15:19.13 | AL13N | also, lib64kdeutils-kdf |
15:19.18 | AL13N | and kdeutils-devel |
15:19.20 | AL13N | etc... |
15:19.42 | AL13N | the numbers easily increase |
15:20.10 | AL13N | thiago: is smart source or binary based? does it use rpm also or something totally diff? |
15:20.54 | thiago | AL13N: ah, sorry |
15:20.59 | thiago | I thought you meant smart's source code |
15:21.12 | thiago | no, smart can install anything: rpm, deb and tgz |
15:21.22 | AL13N | oh, like autopackage |
15:21.23 | thiago | but it's NOT meant to do cross-distributions installations |
15:21.25 | thiago | no |
15:21.33 | thiago | it's not "one package for all" |
15:21.34 | AL13N | so mandriva prolly will use smart with rpm then |
15:21.36 | StevenR | I have 20 kde packages, including qt, kdevelop and koffice. Then I have 93 language packages, of which i only have one installed |
15:21.55 | thiago | it's "I can do what urpmi/yum/apt-get/up2date did" |
15:22.08 | thiago | # apt-cache search k.*i18n.* | wc -l |
15:22.08 | thiago | 200 |
15:22.17 | AL13N | thiago: so smart can invoke urpmi? |
15:22.31 | AL13N | thiago: whoa |
15:22.55 | thiago | no, it won't invoke urpmi |
15:22.59 | thiago | it replaces urpmi |
15:23.02 | thiago | it will call rpm |
15:23.10 | thiago | www.smartpm.org |
15:24.28 | AL13N | urpmi has around 120 i18n packages |
15:24.47 | AL13N | luckily they'll improve rpm as well |
15:25.34 | AL13N | has smart good src.rpm handling? |
15:26.09 | AL13N | urpmi still lacks some of those handlings for src.rpm, but they're working on that, though they need rpm to change a bit too |
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15:26.59 | AL13N | StevenR: i'm trying to find the responsible code for that button |
15:29.06 | AL13N | StevenR: it looks like something in http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.3.2/kdeutils/kdelirc/kcmlirc/kcmlirc.cpp?rev=411963&view=markup slotAddAction function |
15:29.16 | AL13N | but i don't really see anything wrong |
15:29.25 | AL13N | unless those siblings are looped |
15:32.30 | StevenR | AL13N: i don't understand the c++ code, sorry. OOP is just wierd |
15:36.28 | morgajel | the concepts are simple, but the implementations are ugly |
15:37.05 | morgajel | StevenR: if you're interested in learning OOP, start with a language like Ruby- read an intro tutorial on it and see how it works. |
15:38.02 | StevenR | morgajel: i understnad how oop works, i just think it's wierd...doesn't fit the way my brain thinks about programming |
15:38.11 | morgajel | aah, ok |
15:38.23 | morgajel | I feel the same way abour prolog :) |
15:38.53 | morgajel | I can handle perl, php, ruby, java and even to a small extent C... but prolog drives me up the wall :) |
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15:41.25 | goron | How can I change the standard editor (e.g. when double clicking on a file)? Now, it's on the terrible default KWord. For stuff with an extension it works, but not for stuff without it. |
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15:43.13 | AL13N | StevenR: it's not so diff from normal coding |
15:43.32 | AL13N | just you work alot with functions as arguments in functions |
15:44.14 | StevenR | AL13N: OOP and !OOP are completely different ways of thinking about programming. |
15:44.45 | AL13N | i disagree with you there |
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15:45.07 | goron | AL13N: Good OOP programming is about invariant. (Unlike Java) |
15:45.27 | StevenR | AL13N: explain why they are the same then |
15:45.28 | goron | er invariants |
15:45.47 | goron | They are both Turing-Complete... |
15:45.56 | goron | But so is ASM. |
15:46.29 | goron | Anyone got an idea for my problem? |
15:47.04 | goron | I want to change the standard for "text" files. There should be some mimetype configuration option somewhere. |
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15:47.24 | StevenR | goron: kcontrol, kde components, file associations |
15:47.40 | goron | StevenR: heh, I was already in kcontrol... |
15:47.45 | goron | But didn't see that |
15:50.20 | goron | StevenR: Only... it doesn't work. I add /usr/local/bin/kedit, but it doesn't add it. |
15:50.53 | StevenR | hmm |
15:51.29 | goron | Removing works.. but is not reflected in Konqueror |
15:51.55 | goron | So removing "works". |
15:53.30 | goron | Is there some text file where I can change it? |
15:53.37 | goron | It's *very* annoying. |
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15:54.30 | StevenR | goron: somewhere in ~/.kde/ |
15:54.36 | AL13N | StevenR: OOP has the advantage that in codes you don't have to supply an extra variable to your function |
15:54.54 | AL13N | and that it is more prominent to supply functions in structs |
15:54.56 | goron | StevenR: Wow, that's only a needle in a haystack... |
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15:55.41 | AL13N | goron: maybe you need to kill all konquerors before doing that again |
15:55.53 | AL13N | who knows, it might only work at relogin |
15:56.09 | goron | AL13N: Who, knows maybe it doesn't work ever... |
15:56.19 | raphael | Is it possible that http://www.kde.de is down? I get a timeout on the server... |
15:56.22 | AL13N | goron: i'd doubt that |
15:56.50 | AL13N | raphael: nah, it's just that your network doesn't work ;-) j/k ;-) |
15:57.01 | raphael | hehe ;) |
15:57.28 | goron | kde.de is down for me too. |
15:57.32 | goron | org is up though |
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15:58.59 | StevenR | goron: ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/ i think |
15:59.33 | StevenR | AL13N: what do you mean extra variable? |
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16:02.00 | goron | StevenR: There are no examples in the file => unable to put in correct syntax. |
16:02.51 | StevenR | goron: get them from the similar place in your kde install tree, eg /opt/kde/share/mimelnk |
16:03.13 | goron | StevenR: ow, ok. |
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16:07.48 | goron | StevenR: I skimmed this tree of dirs: /usr/local/share/mimelnk/ |
16:07.59 | StevenR | yes |
16:08.03 | goron | StevenR: But guess the defaults are hardcoded |
16:08.07 | goron | Er I gues |
16:08.11 | goron | Er I guess |
16:08.16 | StevenR | no, should be in that dir |
16:08.26 | goron | StevenR: I have found "plain". |
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16:08.39 | goron | StevenR: But the point is: I don't have a clue what to put in it. |
16:08.51 | StevenR | goron: look at the other items |
16:09.02 | goron | StevenR: I have looked at at least three, |
16:09.24 | goron | StevenR: I don't see a line saying: execute this app. |
16:11.42 | AL13N | StevenR: if you program modular software (especially if it's multithreaded) on not-OOP, you mostly use a technique where you make an extra parameter in the function where you supply a pointer to a struct containing most of the info |
16:12.08 | AL13N | which is more or less like the object variable of the function (if you use OOP) |
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16:14.22 | bsims | hey quick question... KDE doesn't want to thumbnail large jpgs how do I tell it to do it anyway? |
16:15.10 | StevenR | bsims: increase the size threshold for previews |
16:15.15 | bsims | thanks |
16:16.45 | StevenR | AL13N: object variable of the function? which function? |
16:17.05 | AL13N | oi |
16:17.26 | AL13N | StevenR: on OOP, you have something like CLASS::function(params); |
16:17.54 | AL13N | in that function you can use this as a object variable |
16:18.10 | StevenR | ok, different terminology....i would say Class::Method(params) |
16:18.15 | AL13N | in non_OOP, this gets solved by putting an extra param in the function |
16:18.31 | AL13N | eh, what's in a name |
16:18.50 | AL13N | function(somestruct_t * this, params); |
16:19.25 | StevenR | AL13N: well, i was taught that objects don't have functions, only methods. |
16:19.49 | AL13N | yeah well, terminology, it's essentially the same thing |
16:20.39 | StevenR | for all the programming I've ever done, OOP would just overcomplicate everything |
16:21.01 | StevenR | i understnad why oop is useful, and why people like it, but my brain doesn't think about things that way |
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16:22.36 | AL13N | StevenR: it's only usefull for readability and if you have to have inheriting |
16:23.05 | AL13N | the rest is more efficiently solved by normal non_OOP programming |
16:23.10 | AL13N | not easy though |
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16:35.30 | DexterF | hi. where can I disable this accessibility stuff? the kind that appears when holding shift for 8 seconds and so |
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16:37.49 | Venson | DexterF: look in Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility |
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16:45.58 | DexterF | Venson: only see what type of signal i can change, but not where to disable it altogether |
16:46.07 | toecutter | <PROTECTED> |
16:46.07 | toecutter | <Zend> anybody? |
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16:48.02 | lightl00t | skype>options.... maybe? |
16:48.17 | lightl00t | akregator is a sonuva, unistall it |
16:50.06 | toecutter | what is a better rss feeder then |
16:50.18 | lightl00t | firefox? |
16:50.31 | toecutter | i have firefox |
16:50.48 | lightl00t | <PROTECTED> |
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16:51.56 | toecutter | dont have the button |
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16:52.25 | swast | hi guys |
16:52.31 | swast | i have a question |
16:52.33 | lightl00t | what??? |
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16:52.42 | swast | does konquerror can do such thing : |
16:52.46 | lightl00t | try a news site and the button will appear |
16:52.59 | swast | open file and print it to postscript; but do it in commandline mode |
16:53.14 | lightl00t | toecutter try... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/default.stm (it's the bbc) |
16:53.33 | lightl00t | there should be a button yellow-orange on the bottom right |
16:53.43 | swast | i need some tool, to convert html to ps, but htmldoc sucks |
16:53.57 | lightl00t | click for rss feeds |
16:54.10 | lightl00t | it will add a 'live bookmark' |
16:55.51 | toecutter | i am still using firefox 1.0.2 |
16:56.19 | lightl00t | upgrade immediately to 1.0.4 (there is an important security patch) |
16:56.44 | lightl00t | besides firefox 1.0+ has rss feeds |
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16:58.32 | Venson | toecutter: sage.mozdev.org |
17:02.53 | lippel_ | toecutter: akregator autostarts?? |
17:03.21 | toecutter | sometimes, it is skype that always autostarts |
17:03.35 | lippel_ | weird, without using session management? |
17:03.55 | toecutter | i have only looked in .kde/autostart |
17:04.26 | toecutter | where are the settings for session management or whatever that is |
17:04.30 | lippel_ | well, if you use session management, akregator is restarted when it was running before last exit |
17:04.41 | lippel_ | like other apps, too |
17:04.53 | toecutter | well i think that is it |
17:05.24 | lippel_ | same with skype. maybe you don't exit them but minimize them to systray? |
17:05.36 | lippel_ | so they stay there and get restored on restart |
17:05.40 | toecutter | i think skype even though you close it runs in the background |
17:05.56 | lippel_ | if there is a systray icon, yes |
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17:06.03 | lippel_ | in akregator, you can turn that off though |
17:06.09 | lippel_ | if you don't want the tray icon |
17:06.25 | toecutter | skype is a java program. btw it is very nice overall. |
17:06.43 | lippel_ | skype is c++ afaik :) |
17:07.11 | lippel_ | using Qt, like KDE |
17:07.20 | toecutter | yes, kde |
17:07.30 | toecutter | oh, mnm skype is |
17:09.25 | lippel_ | toecutter: session management can be turned off in kcontrol->kde components->session manager |
17:09.37 | lippel_ | if you don't want that |
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17:12.55 | toecutter | thanks, i have been searching through .kde/share/config/ksmserverrc and it is loaded with skype and akregator |
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17:17.25 | GoGi | Is there a general way to input arbitrary unicode-characters into kde applications? |
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17:18.04 | tech9iner | ThingzThatMakeYouWannaSay.... Hmmmmm!?!..... ;] |
17:18.07 | tech9iner | so mates.. |
17:18.13 | tech9iner | not a kde desktop user perse |
17:18.15 | tech9iner | but |
17:18.23 | tech9iner | cant abide gnome's nautilus |
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17:18.45 | tech9iner | and thus do load kde libs enough to take advantage of konqueror ' MC view ;] |
17:18.50 | tech9iner | now.. |
17:18.53 | grepper | GoGi: other than kcharselect ? |
17:18.56 | tech9iner | loaded konq as su - |
17:19.09 | tech9iner | wanted to group change perms on folders.. |
17:19.16 | tech9iner | folder properties.. |
17:19.20 | tech9iner | choose permissions tab |
17:19.21 | GoGi | grepper: yes preferably |
17:19.45 | grepper | GoGi: kcharselect is pretty arbitrary :P |
17:19.51 | GoGi | I'd like to chosse the character by number and not have to scroll through |
17:20.12 | GoGi | A wait I can put in the number in kcharselect |
17:20.21 | GoGi | ok thanks a lot :) it works |
17:20.22 | tech9iner | choose 'apply changes to all subfolders and their contents' .. then choose owner / group preferred.. |
17:20.28 | tech9iner | open said folder.. |
17:20.41 | tech9iner | and subfolders still?? claiming root perms? |
17:21.02 | tech9iner | anyone have a clue wtf konq is ignoring this option / checkbox call Please ? |
17:21.04 | tech9iner | thanx |
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17:26.36 | tech9iner | any input / feedback muchly appreciated mates.. ;] |
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17:34.18 | tech9iner | no clues me konquerorMates?.. |
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17:36.39 | tech9iner | alas.. dead irc community.. |
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17:48.13 | tech9iner | poke.. ;] |
17:48.20 | tech9iner | anyone awake in here ;] |
17:48.34 | tech9iner | any konqueror users present please ;] |
17:50.02 | tech9iner | ThingzThatMakeYouWannaSay.... Hmmmmm!?!..... ;] |
17:50.11 | tech9iner | tuff crowd.. lol |
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17:52.28 | tech9iner | aaaallllrighty then.. |
17:52.50 | raphael | tech9ner, I'm here :) |
17:52.53 | raphael | just came in |
17:53.00 | raphael | tech9iner, what do you want me to do? |
17:53.08 | raphael | (still have to read up all the messages) |
17:53.36 | raphael | I'm using Konqueror... |
17:53.38 | tech9iner | opened konqueror as su - raphael and thanx 4 your time guv |
17:53.44 | tech9iner | ;] |
17:54.00 | tech9iner | properties on folder in konq MC view |
17:54.07 | tech9iner | chose perms tab |
17:54.21 | tech9iner | chose new group / owner |
17:54.43 | tech9iner | checked 'apply to all subfolders / contents' box |
17:54.51 | tech9iner | and wuallah!.. |
17:55.04 | tech9iner | SubFolders all still root owned ???? |
17:55.17 | tech9iner | any clues wtf this checkbox ignores my request Please raphael ? |
17:55.22 | raphael | where is the "perms tab" in MC view? |
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17:55.30 | tech9iner | argh.. rofl |
17:56.00 | tech9iner | its not in the konq view mate.. its available in the file/folder properties dialog ;] |
17:56.02 | raphael | ? I don't see a perms tab in the ui |
17:56.13 | raphael | ah, that you mean... hehe |
17:57.10 | tech9iner | just dont get here raphael why checkbox is available but effects NOTHING!? ;] |
17:59.07 | tech9iner | and aparantly never will this juncture.. heh.. ive been asking this same question now for over a yr now rofl |
17:59.24 | tech9iner | k.. bit redundant on 'now'z lol |
17:59.36 | raphael | tech9iner, I can't confirm the problem |
17:59.39 | raphael | for me it works |
17:59.47 | raphael | that's with konqueror 3.4.0 |
17:59.50 | tech9iner | seriously raphael ?.. |
18:00.01 | raphael | I'll test once again... |
18:00.06 | tech9iner | youve just changed perms on all subfolders/files and it works? |
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18:00.48 | tech9iner | ThingzThatMakeYouWannaSay.... Hmmmmm!?!..... ;] |
18:00.59 | raphael | tech9iner, yes, serious |
18:01.22 | raphael | Yes, I changed perms of a folder that contains another folder and a file |
18:01.30 | tech9iner | ok.. wtf'z up widdat!?.. so riddle me this.. htf does konq know its me ? rofl |
18:01.34 | raphael | both the folder and the file changed permissions (owner/group) correctly |
18:01.41 | raphael | That's on FreeBSD |
18:01.50 | raphael | maybe different behaviour on Linux? |
18:01.51 | tech9iner | g r e a t !! |
18:02.21 | tech9iner | ohwell.. tanx muchly for your time an input sir raphael ;];].. |
18:02.55 | raphael | your welcome |
18:03.44 | raphael | Did anyone already fix www.kde.de ??? the server is still timing out |
18:04.00 | raphael | It doesn't make good PR really if that server is down for too long |
18:04.07 | tech9iner | no worries an Ciao 4 now ;] raphael .. ;] |
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18:04.53 | pembo13 | I am attempting to install a kde theme, it appears to get to the correct dir, but does not appear in the theme manager, any ideas? I am running FC4 fully up-to-date |
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18:10.40 | pembo13 | ?? |
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18:16.35 | pembo13 | anybody? |
18:18.07 | _poison | hi =) |
18:18.16 | stian | hullo |
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18:19.25 | pembo13 | I am attempting to install a kde theme, it appears to get to the correct dir, but does not appear in the theme manager, any ideas? |
18:21.57 | pembo13 | I am attempting to install a kde theme, it appears to get to the correct dir, but does not appear in the theme manager, any ideas? |
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18:41.17 | rindolf | Hi all! |
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18:41.30 | rindolf | Where does KDE looks for its main menu items in Mandrake? |
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18:41.45 | rindolf | The K-menu? |
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18:58.36 | Venson | rindolf: .config/menus/ look there |
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19:05.46 | zviratko | hi ppls |
19:06.02 | zviratko | does someone here have a smartcard working with kmail? |
19:06.09 | zviratko | (opensc one, not openpgp one) |
19:10.39 | moxilo | good night all X_) |
19:16.14 | anisX | ah i forgot the command how to play dvd on xine |
19:16.18 | anisX | xine dvd:// ? |
19:16.34 | rindolf | Venson: I see an XML file called applications-mdk.menu |
19:16.52 | Venson | rindolf: that's your menu stuff...cat it and see for yourself :) |
19:17.17 | Venson | anisX: yeah..that should work...though i did xine dvd://1 last time iirc |
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19:19.49 | anisX | Venson: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/zw28tM41.html |
19:20.00 | anisX | i dont have any problem to play dvd before this |
19:20.04 | anisX | or i just forgot the command |
19:20.07 | anisX | thats all |
19:20.36 | Venson | ooh...LVM :( ...i know nothing about it |
19:21.00 | Venson | wait..have you mounted the disc, anisX ? |
19:21.04 | Venson | try unmounting it and playing |
19:22.30 | anisX | Venson: no..i dont mounting the device , and before this..i dont need to mount it for playing over xine |
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19:23.03 | Venson | right...you never have to really mount it |
19:23.10 | anisX | :/ |
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19:32.23 | depi | hello I saw some screenshots that in KDE panel are small icons, that there are more place for open windows, etc. how to change the icons to smaller? |
19:36.15 | teatime | depi: that's probably the quicklauncher applet |
19:36.52 | teatime | you don't change anything in kicker, you add a kicker applet that houses the launcher shortcuts |
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19:41.01 | depi | teatime: thanks very much |
19:41.46 | teatime | nps |
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20:02.35 | Julianyus | hi |
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20:12.27 | VxJasonxV | JuK is part of the KDE Multimedia package, yes? |
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20:15.46 | Venson | VxJasonxV: yes |
20:16.03 | VxJasonxV | thank you Venson |
20:16.05 | VxJasonxV | ... |
20:16.15 | VxJasonxV | two minutes with it and I already screw up the toolbar >_< |
20:16.57 | Venson | lol |
20:17.06 | Venson | i'm sure there's better records |
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20:17.15 | VxJasonxV | probably |
20:17.20 | VxJasonxV | but I can't restore it :( |
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20:17.45 | VxJasonxV | the volume bar is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMONGOUS, and the song length bar thing is small and vertical |
20:17.47 | VxJasonxV | and I can't fix it :( |
20:18.41 | Venson | look for jukrc or the like...and move it elsewhere |
20:18.46 | Venson | close juk first |
20:21.41 | VxJasonxV | hrm |
20:21.50 | VxJasonxV | I wonder if I can just manipulate it instead |
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20:26.33 | VxJasonxV | hrm |
20:26.41 | VxJasonxV | I can't find a .jukrc in my ~ or in ~/.kde |
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20:30.49 | VxJasonxV | ~/.kde/share/apps/juk |
20:30.51 | VxJasonxV | there it is |
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20:35.38 | AL13N | any KDE-dev here? i have a problem with kcmlirc, when i press the add action button, it hangs (no redraw). it looks like something in http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.3.2/kdeutils/kdelirc/kcmlirc/kcmlirc.cpp?rev=411963&view=markup slotAddAction function, but i can't find it... |
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20:55.25 | Gena | hi everybody |
20:55.39 | Gena | i have a little problem here... |
20:56.39 | Gena | i started kde when i had no free space on my /, and now after i restarted it after cleaning up, a lot of my programs cant find their configuraitons |
20:57.06 | Venson | Gena: how exactly did you "clean up"? |
20:57.29 | Gena | removed temp files |
20:57.39 | Gena | the configuraiton files are all fine |
20:58.46 | Venson | so you are starting kde from the cmdline? |
20:59.07 | Gena | yes |
21:01.13 | Venson | Gena: do this "startx > startx.log 2>&1" |
21:01.46 | Venson | that will create a file startx.log ...you should take a look at that...you could also try and create a new user ("adduser" or "useradd" and login as them)...see if it works for them |
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21:02.34 | phlux | Anyone know how to change the icon sizes on the desktop? |
21:02.47 | Gena | the problem is that kde works great |
21:03.12 | Gena | it's just that some programs cant "find" their config files |
21:03.18 | Gena | although they are there |
21:03.28 | phlux | anyone..? heh |
21:03.32 | Venson | phlux: yes...it's a setting in the Control Center...one sec |
21:03.41 | AL13N | Gena: maybe they've changed places |
21:04.04 | phlux | Venson: I found it |
21:04.08 | phlux | I forgot about Control Center :P |
21:04.10 | Venson | :) |
21:04.16 | Venson | lol...can't forget CC!! |
21:04.38 | Gena | AL13N: that's what i think, but i cant find the thing that made them change |
21:05.05 | AL13N | howabout just KCC |
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21:07.59 | Venson | AL13N: it's punishment...besides, one could forget what KCC is |
21:08.36 | AL13N | Venson: nah, i got MCC and KCC |
21:08.56 | AL13N | the first is system based, the second is userbased |
21:09.03 | AL13N | easy to distinguish and remember |
21:09.12 | Gena | just do 'print 'KDE Control Center\n'*100' and get over with it :) |
21:09.48 | AL13N | for ... ; do echo 'KDE Control Center' ; done |
21:10.13 | Venson | you're both evil!! *waves fist* |
21:10.26 | Gena | :) |
21:10.36 | AL13N | or how about while true; do echo 'KDE Control Center'; done |
21:10.39 | Venson | :) |
21:10.46 | AL13N | you know like kissing ass of teatcher |
21:10.49 | AL13N | ẗeacher |
21:11.04 | Venson | let me assist: teacher |
21:11.09 | AL13N | leacher |
21:11.11 | AL13N | eh |
21:11.16 | AL13N | teacher ;-) |
21:12.09 | Gena | errr... i hate that stuff |
21:12.24 | Gena | it fsck up a lot of my configuration files |
21:13.04 | Venson | Gena: maybe some AL13N moved it when you weren't looking...;) |
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21:13.13 | Gena | maybe |
21:13.17 | Venson | hehe |
21:13.21 | real | hello, in koqnueror, in actions i used to have Ark stuff, to zip files etc, and now its gone all of a sudden, what can i do |
21:13.36 | Venson | real: wat distro? |
21:13.39 | Venson | *what |
21:13.47 | real | gentoo |
21:13.54 | Venson | real: install kdeaddons? |
21:13.54 | AL13N | real and Gena: any change you guys upgraded? |
21:14.11 | real | if i did i dont remember at all |
21:14.18 | Gena | AL13N: nope |
21:14.23 | AL13N | both gentoo? |
21:14.27 | Gena | yep |
21:14.47 | AL13N | let's say that emerge etc-update is a problem? |
21:14.50 | Venson | real: well...you'll need that. that's where ark usually is |
21:14.53 | AL13N | or how is it called? |
21:14.59 | real | i have ark installed though |
21:16.36 | AL13N | doesn't gentoo have an autoupdate every x days? |
21:17.03 | Gena | you can cron it |
21:17.10 | AL13N | of course you can |
21:17.23 | AL13N | you can cron just about anything |
21:17.24 | Gena | i dont think it has it by default |
21:17.28 | AL13N | k |
21:17.30 | AL13N | well |
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21:17.43 | AL13N | something or other probably went wrong in the emerge |
21:17.58 | AL13N | better go check #gentoo-somthingorother |
21:18.11 | real | for actions, i still have some stuff |
21:18.20 | Gena | in my case i'm pretty much sure it's the problem with the space in my case |
21:18.21 | real | rename with krename and create data cd with k3b :| |
21:18.25 | real | maybe ill reemerge ark |
21:18.32 | Gena | i had the same problem before... |
21:18.37 | AL13N | config files are usually in /usr/share/kde/config/* or ~/.kde/* |
21:19.08 | AL13N | maybe it's both |
21:19.19 | AL13N | real: checked filespace left? |
21:19.27 | real | i have lots |
21:19.31 | real | 80 gigs almost |
21:19.31 | AL13N | maybe gentoo changed the default location in it's emerge thing |
21:19.40 | AL13N | real: on that partition? |
21:19.45 | real | yea |
21:20.15 | AL13N | here's something |
21:20.20 | AL13N | execute ark |
21:20.24 | AL13N | close it |
21:20.30 | AL13N | find the last modified file |
21:20.35 | AL13N | there's your config files |
21:21.01 | real | ill reinstall it first maybe that will do it the easy way |
21:21.16 | Gena | ahh... |
21:21.29 | Gena | i'm sick and tired of this buggy sim |
21:21.50 | Gena | and the problem is that there's nothing better |
21:22.05 | AL13N | Gena battle of wesnoth |
21:22.20 | Gena | ? |
21:22.32 | AL13N | try an d find that |
21:23.23 | Gena | i was talking about sim as an icq client |
21:23.34 | AL13N | gaim is better icq client |
21:23.47 | Gena | gaim is gnome... yuck |
21:23.52 | AL13N | licq was the best before something else came |
21:24.02 | Gena | dont like licq |
21:24.03 | AL13N | Gena: you don't have to have gnome to have gaim |
21:24.08 | Gena | i know |
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21:24.14 | Gena | but it's gtk and stuff |
21:24.15 | AL13N | kopete is rumoured to have been improved |
21:24.19 | AL13N | it's gtk, yes |
21:24.22 | AL13N | gtk is not bad |
21:24.37 | Gena | well... anyway, i tried gaim and i didnt like it |
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21:25.03 | eean | gaim is good if you're already used to it |
21:25.09 | AL13N | yeah |
21:25.12 | eean | otherwise its pretty poor |
21:25.19 | MrGrim | translation: I don't feel like getting into an argument about gtk so I'll say I've already tried it and I thought it sucked |
21:25.31 | AL13N | hehe |
21:25.42 | AL13N | Gena: well, then there's kopete |
21:25.51 | AL13N | and a few others too |
21:25.59 | MrGrim | gaim is the only IM client I've ever really used... I tried kopete a few times |
21:26.21 | AL13N | kopete crashed too much |
21:26.25 | MrGrim | I've never used the actual IM clients provided by the im networks |
21:26.32 | Gena | i tried all the big clients, and the only one i didnt hate is sim |
21:26.40 | AL13N | MrGrim: i used ICQ before |
21:26.40 | Gena | and it's full of bugs |
21:26.53 | AL13N | Gena: you're a hatefull person |
21:27.00 | MrGrim | ya I did once too back when it was brand new |
21:27.03 | MrGrim | it was bloatware then |
21:27.03 | Gena | yeah |
21:27.10 | MrGrim | god knows what it's like now |
21:27.31 | AL13N | i'd rather have it working stable, then that it looks good |
21:27.36 | MrGrim | gaim is nice tho, simple, slim, easy, and stable |
21:27.37 | AL13N | MrGrim: it's bloatware |
21:27.40 | MrGrim | doesn't get much better |
21:27.57 | MrGrim | kopete dev is happenign fast tho... maybe if they completely change the UI kopete can compete :D |
21:27.58 | AL13N | MrGrim: yeah it does get better |
21:28.22 | AL13N | my buddy told me kopete is now competable with gaim |
21:28.33 | AL13N | i donno |
21:28.38 | MrGrim | maybe in cvs |
21:28.43 | MrGrim | I haven't tried it in cvs tho |
21:28.52 | AL13N | but i need gaim to be more separate |
21:28.56 | MrGrim | imho the UI stinks on 3.4.1 |
21:28.58 | eean | "compatible with gaim" ? |
21:29.12 | AL13N | eean: no, competable |
21:29.17 | eean | oh |
21:29.17 | Gena | wait... i'm the only one here that uses sim? |
21:29.19 | MrGrim | i.e. "able to compete" |
21:29.24 | eean | pretty sure competable isn't a word ;) |
21:29.43 | AL13N | Gena: probably |
21:29.48 | eean | competitive |
21:29.48 | MrGrim | [16:28] <MrGrim> @dict competable |
21:29.48 | MrGrim | [16:28] <ZBot> MrGrim: No definition for "competable" could be found. |
21:29.49 | MrGrim | :) |
21:29.53 | Gena | yay... i'm special :) |
21:30.15 | AL13N | i'd like gaim to be less ui |
21:30.21 | MrGrim | the screenshots of sim are taken w/ keramik.. which is already ugly... but then they got an even uglier color scheme than default |
21:30.22 | AL13N | a nice splitup is required |
21:30.28 | MrGrim | doesn't make it look very good :P |
21:30.46 | MrGrim | AL13N: what do you mean less ui? |
21:31.00 | AL13N | i want it to have a cursed frontend too |
21:31.12 | MrGrim | console frontend? |
21:31.17 | AL13N | yeah |
21:31.18 | eean | buahahahah cursed frontend |
21:31.26 | MrGrim | lol |
21:31.26 | eean | it will be the /last/ frontend you ever use |
21:31.29 | AL13N | eean: you never heard of ncurses? |
21:31.39 | MrGrim | curses |
21:31.43 | MrGrim | you said cursed :P |
21:31.48 | eean | hehe, exactly |
21:31.49 | AL13N | of course |
21:31.59 | AL13N | as an adjective |
21:32.07 | eean | ncurses != cursed |
21:32.15 | AL13N | i alway say that |
21:32.16 | MrGrim | curses can be an adj |
21:32.28 | AL13N | not in my language |
21:32.39 | eean | the language of AL13N |
21:32.41 | MrGrim | it's not dependant on language |
21:32.42 | AL13N | a cursed appl is an appl that uses curses |
21:32.59 | eean | no, a cursed application is one that requires a high-level cleric to remove |
21:33.00 | MrGrim | since curses is curses in any language |
21:33.04 | AL13N | the appl is cursed, it's made to work with curses |
21:33.07 | MrGrim | a curses application is a curses application |
21:33.10 | MrGrim | in any language |
21:33.24 | AL13N | nah |
21:33.27 | MrGrim | ya |
21:33.43 | jql | the 'ed' form would be cursesed |
21:33.45 | AL13N | i want a competable cursed frontend for gaim |
21:33.51 | MrGrim | I mean you can say nah all day and use your own word... but to effectively communicate w/ the rest of the world you have to go by the same standard |
21:33.53 | MrGrim | not your standard |
21:33.55 | AL13N | jql: that's too long |
21:33.59 | jql | well, duh |
21:34.07 | jql | which is why we just say curses |
21:34.15 | AL13N | MrGrim: people know what i'm telling them, it's good enough for me |
21:34.22 | MrGrim | damn... you used competable and cursed one right after the other |
21:34.31 | AL13N | lol, nice huh |
21:34.49 | MrGrim | AL13N: not good enough for everyone else, what you say is ambiguous at best |
21:34.59 | eean | AL13N: ha, well I was seriously confused by competable. I knew what you meant by cursed though :) |
21:35.02 | AL13N | sure, i love double meanings |
21:35.14 | AL13N | lol eean |
21:35.24 | jql | then you'd love Perl |
21:35.29 | AL13N | of course |
21:35.37 | AL13N | everything in one line |
21:35.49 | AL13N | as short as possible |
21:36.01 | AL13N | i'm kidding |
21:36.08 | AL13N | i program more in C |
21:36.31 | AL13N | MrGrim: btw english is not my native tongue |
21:37.00 | AL13N | jql: these days i actually include comments in my code ;-) |
21:37.12 | jql | for shame |
21:37.14 | AL13N | jql: took me a while to get used to it |
21:37.30 | jql | I only include comments in other people's code |
21:37.36 | AL13N | jql lol |
21:37.43 | jql | I already know why my code works how it does |
21:37.44 | AL13N | anyway |
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21:38.02 | AL13N | anyone uses kdelirc ? |
21:38.14 | AL13N | irkick and kcmlirc ? |
21:38.36 | AL13N | i want to know if anyone can press the addaction button on it |
21:38.48 | AL13N | on my system it hangs |
21:39.35 | daxiang | hi folks. anyone running kdevelop3.2 and Debian 3.1 (aka Sarge)? I'm having a problem with kdevelop and kdbg, which nobody at #debian or #debian-kde had a clue of. |
21:43.01 | MrGrim | jql: go back to your code after 5 years of neglecting it... se how clear it can be :) |
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21:58.31 | jql | heh |
21:58.44 | jql | I do that all the time. I've neglected all my code for 3 years |
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22:49.24 | johnny69 | Good evening room, I'm looking for a brief description of the ssh_daemon that I see running in the processes. (Google returned next to nothing) Thanks. (fedora core 3/kde 3.4.1) |
22:50.07 | thiago | johnny69: it's not a KDE program |
22:50.20 | johnny69 | oh |
22:51.18 | johnny69 | thiago: I tried the fedora channel and got no answer at all. I didn't know where else to go. Sorry. |
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22:54.54 | Venson | this must be the katch-all channel for kweschuns |
22:55.10 | grepper | its a daemon that keeps the box quiet |
22:55.17 | grepper | or it may be a ssh server :P |
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23:25.10 | Alethes | knock knock |
23:32.27 | Venson | who's there? |
23:32.54 | Alethes | orange |
23:33.03 | AL13N | who orange |
23:33.13 | Alethes | orange you gonna open the door? |
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23:34.55 | Alethes | hah |
23:35.20 | Alethes | we were driving through town today and there was a duck that was walking around the middle of the road |
23:35.37 | Alethes | people kept trying to shoo it away, but it was pretty stubborn |
23:35.37 | grepper | nice |
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23:40.05 | tam | in kontact how could i tell it to use konqueror as its default mail application instead of thunderbird? |
23:41.02 | jql | Coontrol Center -> Components -> applications or something |
23:41.24 | jql | from the KDE menu. not sure if kontact is keeping its own browser |
23:41.37 | tam | thanks jql i'll take a look now |
23:42.16 | jql | Component chooser, not applications. kinda close |
23:43.40 | tam | hehe, and it works again! |
23:44.02 | tam | kontact is the best organizer ive ever used |
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23:52.00 | tam | one more question...is there a way to backup the whole of kontact in one save instead of several? |
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23:56.33 | User_X | can anyone tell me what this means in other words "Relay mail server" |
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23:57.28 | thiago | it is a mail server that relays. In other words, it receives your email and sends it to another server. |
23:57.35 | thiago | it's not the source nor the destination |
23:57.59 | User_X | so translating to portuguese would be? |
23:58.33 | thiago | "repasse" |
23:58.41 | User_X | repassar? |
23:58.55 | User_X | Repassar servidor de correio? |
23:58.57 | thiago | to relay = repassar |
23:59.07 | User_X | eskistito isso |
23:59.08 | thiago | relay mail server = servidor de repasse de correio |
23:59.15 | thiago | you choose whatever fits best |
23:59.20 | thiago | I've never seen the name translated. |
23:59.24 | thiago | you can coin the term. |
23:59.33 | User_X | retransmissão acho q é o mais corecto |
23:59.43 | User_X | coin? |
23:59.52 | thiago | to coin = to forge = to use for the first time |