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| 00:14.17 | dec0ding | hi. after reiserfsfsck finished, when I click on Home (on the desktop) I get this error Message: There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type. |
| 00:18.25 | aseigo | dec0ding: delete the contents of `kde-config --localprefix`/share/mimelnk |
| 00:18.40 | dec0ding | like 'rm -rf' |
| 00:18.42 | dec0ding | all of it? |
| 00:18.42 | aseigo | dec0ding: or at lesat the inode/directory.dekstop file that is likely lurking in there |
| 00:19.05 | aseigo | sure, but JUST the mimelnk directory. it's where customized file associations are stored |
| 00:19.34 | dec0ding | oki |
| 00:20.01 | dec0ding | logout I presume neccesary is |
| 00:20.49 | aseigo | shouldn't be. you may want to run `kbuildsycoca --noincremental` after deleting it though |
| 00:21.25 | dec0ding | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/cervisia.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'inode/directory' |
| 00:21.28 | dec0ding | many of this |
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| 00:23.19 | dec0ding | aseigo ^^ |
| 00:24.44 | dec0ding | that didn't help |
| 00:25.52 | dec0ding | brb |
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| 00:27.27 | dec0ding | aseigo: none of the links on the desktop and others are functional now, so what is next? |
| 00:29.05 | dec0ding | aseigo !! |
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| 00:29.28 | dgtlwrk | greets |
| 00:30.17 | Jejem | greets dgtlwrk |
| 00:31.41 | dec0ding | who is this asshole aseigo ? |
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| 00:32.02 | dgtlwrk | Hey is it possible to tell konqueror to reload its bookmarks from disk without restarting the application? |
| 00:33.25 | dec0ding | dont ask aseigo he will tell u to 'rm -rf' something and then dissapier |
| 00:33.30 | dec0ding | what a shitty loser |
| 00:33.31 | dec0ding | lame |
| 00:33.38 | dec0ding | pretty lame |
| 00:33.43 | aseigo | dec0ding: so log out, log back in |
| 00:33.51 | dec0ding | I did it |
| 00:33.53 | aseigo | dec0ding: jesus, you think i don't have a life here either? |
| 00:34.01 | dec0ding | so don't try to help if u do |
| 00:34.04 | dec0ding | and then dissapier |
| 00:34.13 | dec0ding | now none of my links on the desktop works |
| 00:34.20 | aseigo | This way the three groups, Nokia, KDE, and Apple, will be working on making one browser engine perfect, rather than working on two very similar systems that, really, have no major advantages over one-another. |
| 00:34.22 | aseigo | oops |
| 00:34.29 | aseigo | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/cervisia.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'inode/directory' |
| 00:34.51 | dec0ding | ... |
| 00:35.00 | aseigo | see that? that means that PROBASBLY /opt/kde/share/mimelnk is screwed. you can thank reiserfs for that, most likely |
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| 00:35.41 | aseigo | and don't worry, next time i see you in here, i won't bother offering you any help. i don't feel the compelling need to be yelled at by idiots. |
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| 00:35.54 | dec0ding | ahm |
| 00:35.57 | dec0ding | so now I am the idiot |
| 00:36.07 | dec0ding | blaming reiserfs won't fix the thing u made up |
| 00:36.11 | dec0ding | so u are clever now |
| 00:36.31 | dec0ding | however, it used to work at least everything else THAN KONQUEROR before u adviced ur wisdom here |
| 00:36.33 | dec0ding | thanks! |
| 00:36.38 | aseigo | heh. first off, i didn't make it up. second, i happen to understand quite intimately how the mimetype system in kde works. |
| 00:37.01 | dec0ding | o_0 |
| 00:37.09 | dec0ding | such a loser |
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| 00:37.17 | aseigo | heh. first off, i didn't make it up. second, i happen to understand quite intimately how the mimetype system in kde works. |
| 00:37.51 | aseigo | fuck. prime example why we more euthanasia wouldn't be a horrible thing. |
| 00:37.55 | aseigo | er, why more* |
| 00:37.56 | Dhraakellian | up, enter |
| 00:37.57 | sarah03 | reiserfs caused his problem in the first place. But anyway. |
| 00:38.05 | Dhraakellian | reiser4? |
| 00:38.25 | smoked1 | hey guys does karamba use lm-sensors? |
| 00:39.08 | sarah03 | Dhraakellian: Probably reiser3. Which I've had eat itself. |
| 00:39.40 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 00:39.45 | sarah03 | In any case, his file associations were fucked after running reiserfsck. |
| 00:40.26 | bischoff | really reiser3 is unstable crap? that sucks I've 200 gigs on reiser3 |
| 00:40.37 | sarah03 | So he was told to delete his customized file associations in `kde-config --localprefix`/share/mimelnk ... instead, it looks like he deleted `kde-config --prefix`/share/mimelnk. |
| 00:41.02 | grepper | a ban would seem in order |
| 00:41.12 | sarah03 | bischoff: *shrug* I've got about 60G on reiser3 and 80G on XFS. |
| 00:41.45 | sarah03 | The XFS works mostly with a minimum of hassle; it doesn't tolerate bad sectors well, though. |
| 00:44.18 | sarah03 | Which I promptly discovered when my 80G drive decided that it was in the mood for dying. It was still recoverable, though. |
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| 00:46.19 | epyon9283 | I had reiser3 eat half my ~/.kde when my comp crashed once. That wasn't too fun. |
| 00:47.24 | sarah03 | I currently have a great big lost+found directory on my old reiser3 partition, mostly because I can't be bothered to sort it out. |
| 00:48.25 | Lord-Phoenix | hey is kopete still working for most people on MSN? |
| 00:48.35 | Tm_T | yup |
| 00:49.34 | epyon9283 | it just kicked me off... was able to sign back on though |
| 00:50.34 | Dhraakellian | seems to work here |
| 00:50.40 | Lord-Phoenix | fucking MSN |
| 00:51.04 | Tm_T | hmm, Gaim works fine... |
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| 00:52.46 | Dhraakellian | Lord-Phoenix, why the heck would you want to do that with MSN? |
| 00:53.47 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 00:53.48 | Tm_T | yuk |
| 00:54.02 | Lord-Phoenix | Dhraakellian: i'd love to take a bullet and put it right into the main MSN authenticification server to be honest |
| 00:54.19 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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| 00:56.19 | qt2 | hello. |
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| 01:02.21 | lednerk | any idea how to use subversion with kdevelop? I do not see any VCS options after I add a project. |
| 01:04.40 | annma | there's svn plugin I think |
| 01:04.45 | qt2 | hm... quick question... i'm using kde and i was thinking about emerging the kde-meta packages, do you think it'd be a good idea to unmerge/remover (or whatever) the current kde packages i have installed? |
| 01:04.46 | annma | but I am not sure |
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| 01:05.19 | annma | qt2: that's more a gentoo question as we, at kde, don't emerge anything! |
| 01:05.36 | qt2 | XD |
| 01:05.40 | qt2 | alrighty ;) |
| 01:05.45 | annma | qt2: from kde tarball you can install as many kde versions as you want |
| 01:05.54 | qt2 | i see... ^.^; |
| 01:05.57 | annma | I don;t know about gentoo though |
| 01:06.11 | annma | it's a matter of setting the right env vars |
| 01:06.27 | annma | and ./configure with the right --prefix= |
| 01:06.53 | annma | from the pure compile-from-tarballs point of view |
| 01:07.42 | qt2 | i see. |
| 01:07.58 | annma | I have 2 kde versions here |
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| 01:08.27 | grepper | yeah, I think gentoo gives you a choice of emerging seperate packages, or metapackages |
| 01:08.34 | grepper | and the 2 are not compatible |
| 01:09.00 | annma | the 2 what? |
| 01:10.16 | qt2 | grepper, the sperate packages are from an older kde, the meta packages are from the newest kde i believe... |
| 01:10.36 | grepper | none-the-less what I said is true I think |
| 01:10.42 | Dhraakellian | qt2: the folks in #gentoo-kde might be of more help |
| 01:10.44 | grepper | for even the same version |
| 01:11.10 | Dhraakellian | qt2, however, gentoo does install separate versions to separate slots |
| 01:11.24 | Dhraakellian | it doesn't do this for minor versions, though |
| 01:12.01 | Dhraakellian | I'm going to wait at least until 3.5 to switch over to the split ebuilds |
| 01:12.33 | grepper | ah, split ebuilds, thats the term :) |
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| 01:14.04 | qt2 | i jsut want to have a nice fresh DE... |
| 01:14.14 | qt2 | Gnome is so.. blah. |
| 01:14.26 | annma | get the latest KDE tarballs and compile! |
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| 01:14.40 | annma | (that was the kde answer) |
| 01:14.57 | annma | #gentoo-kde will give you a specialized answer, qt2 |
| 01:15.12 | grepper | kdesvn-build worked ok for me |
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| 01:15.17 | qt2 | annma, i'd rather emerge it... i'd already emerged the kdebasebefore i noticed the kde-meta though... |
| 01:15.33 | qt2 | annma, heh, okay, already asked there, waiting for a resoponse... ;) |
| 01:15.34 | annma | qt2: see my latest line please |
| 01:16.07 | qt2 | they'll probably say something along the line of "emerge kde-meta and watch the complile!" |
| 01:16.07 | qt2 | ;) |
| 01:16.17 | annma | <hmmm> |
| 01:16.36 | annma | I go with grepper and compile kde from svn |
| 01:16.53 | annma | (not sure if grepper is happy to go with me though) |
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| 01:21.56 | grepper | oops, women |
| 01:22.16 | annma | ;) |
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| 01:23.15 | darix | hi, is it possible to let konqueror automatically assign short cuts to tabs? so i can directly jump to tabs? |
| 01:23.20 | darix | (without a mouse) |
| 01:23.31 | qt2 | hm, there's apparently an svn version of kde evailable in portage too, i guess i'll end up going with that \o/ |
| 01:23.44 | qt2 | once i find it... :o |
| 01:23.52 | annma | hmmm |
| 01:24.04 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:24.19 | Dhraakellian | any particular reason for running svn versions? |
| 01:24.39 | darix | Dhraakellian: versionities? |
| 01:24.50 | grepper | transparent taskbar ! |
| 01:24.56 | darix | and you can recompile every day. |
| 01:25.01 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:25.13 | darix | grepper: hm ... 3.4 has that ... *think* (except transparency for buttons) |
| 01:25.23 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:25.38 | grepper | well . . . mine is always full, so that doesn't help much :) |
| 01:25.49 | Dhraakellian | I run amarok-svn, but I also am not afraid to run it in gdb occasionally and send backtraces off to the devs |
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| 01:26.17 | qt2 | yeah.. that's a good question... other than transparency, is there any other reason i should use SVN? ;) |
| 01:26.38 | grepper | 3.4 is new enough for me |
| 01:26.48 | Dhraakellian | ditto |
| 01:26.52 | arrummzen_ | How do I lower the level of graphical effects in kde? |
| 01:26.54 | Dhraakellian | well, 3.4.1 is |
| 01:27.46 | Dhraakellian | arrummzen_, well, there's the stuff in kpersonalizer |
| 01:27.57 | Dhraakellian | but you can also set various things in kcontrol |
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| 01:28.08 | jcurry | My brother can send mail threough my smtp's server with TLS encryption...but I cannot. if i telnet to the server. and say 'ehlo', the server replies with 'auth login plain',...i.e., it doesn't support TLS...but my brother can use it. what gives? He is using thunderbird under winxp, i am using kmail under linux... |
| 01:28.45 | Dhraakellian | mostly in the Appearance & Themes and Desktop sections |
| 01:29.16 | darix | jcurry: type "starttls" before the ehlo |
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| 01:30.02 | jcurry | darix, '502 unimplemented (#5.5.1)' |
| 01:30.03 | qt2 | meh, i wish there was a mor emirc-like irc client... <.<; |
| 01:30.17 | darix | jcurry: there you go. |
| 01:30.20 | darix | qt2 try irssi |
| 01:30.40 | jcurry | darix, ? tb worked with tls |
| 01:30.49 | qt2 | darix, already did, i like irssi a lot, but i'd like a gui based irc client... ;) |
| 01:30.50 | jcurry | do they do something special? |
| 01:31.06 | darix | jcurry: different server? |
| 01:31.08 | darix | maybe |
| 01:31.27 | Dhraakellian | there's kvirc |
| 01:31.31 | jcurry | darix, don't have one...unless you know of a free smtp server where i can sign up |
| 01:31.41 | Dhraakellian | but it has its own set of quirks and annoyances |
| 01:32.06 | Dhraakellian | personally, I'm sticking with xchat until konversation "catches up" |
| 01:32.58 | qt2 | oh hey... there's my niche.. |
| 01:33.06 | qt2 | i'll write a linux clone of mirc \o/ |
| 01:33.18 | Tm_T | eeeh |
| 01:33.20 | darix | qt2: bersirc. might be worth a try |
| 01:33.27 | jcurry | please include the 'register me now, please!' option |
| 01:33.33 | Tm_T | haha |
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| 01:33.49 | Tm_T | "only $99" |
| 01:34.20 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:34.29 | qt2 | jcurry, sure o> |
| 01:34.35 | Dhraakellian | jcurry, well, that just needs to be ported from the official windows version of xchat |
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| 01:34.48 | qt2 | jcurry, i'll outdo them though, i'll give you a 15 day limit that actually has no effect o> |
| 01:34.59 | Alethes | I'm convinced that the only people that didn't think Michael Jackson was guilty are the 12 jurors |
| 01:35.13 | Dhraakellian | as opposed to the 30-day limit that just nags you occasionally |
| 01:35.19 | Dhraakellian | Alethes, and Donald Trump |
| 01:35.23 | jcurry | qt2, yes, i never understood that |
| 01:35.36 | Alethes | hehe |
| 01:35.38 | Dhraakellian | (he's got a short segment on the evening news on the radio) |
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| 01:35.52 | jcurry | anyway, i gotta go. darix, thanks for the help! |
| 01:35.55 | jcurry | shit |
| 01:35.58 | jcurry | g'bye! |
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| 01:46.07 | qt2 | hm, does qt4 look much nicer than qt3 or 2 or 1? :P |
| 01:46.16 | annma | well it should |
| 01:46.22 | annma | otherwise, well,.... |
| 01:46.52 | SmileeeM | hi using 3.4.1 konqueror and amarok have stopped accessing any web based info |
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| 01:47.18 | SmileeeM | konqueror just freezes and amarok just doesnt update |
| 01:47.41 | qt2 | annma, well... they could have improved perfomance structure and other stuff... |
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| 01:48.02 | Alethes | SmileeeM: I'm betting you have some kio processes that are locking up |
| 01:48.15 | annma | qt2: qt4 is a HUGE step forward |
| 01:48.16 | nerdz | hi, is it possible to set my own shortcuts under kde? |
| 01:48.25 | SmileeeM | how do I fix that Alethes |
| 01:48.29 | annma | qt2: so it's better in every aspect |
| 01:48.32 | Alethes | I'd check ksysguard |
| 01:48.36 | Alethes | check the processes |
| 01:48.43 | annma | nerdz: yes, see in KControl |
| 01:49.09 | Alethes | SmileeeM: loook for for processes with the phrase "kio" in them |
| 01:49.14 | Alethes | like kio_http, for instance |
| 01:49.24 | SmileeeM | yes |
| 01:49.34 | Alethes | if you find those, just kill them all |
| 01:49.39 | Alethes | all the kio_http anyway |
| 01:51.05 | SmileeeM | what about kio_uiserver? |
| 01:52.16 | User_X | annma: i had updated kde with last svn branch 3:4 but now when i run an app that need the root pass, after i type the pass, the check box "keep password" cant be checked with the space key of the keyboard, i can only check it with a mouse left click, and in that was going ok until this last kde svn update, any thoughts? |
| 01:54.02 | annma | User_X: is that for a new user or the same user that had a previous KDE? |
| 01:54.25 | SmileeeM | did that konqeuror still freezing |
| 01:54.31 | User_X | both, i already create a new user but still hapens |
| 01:55.19 | dan_ | hi guys, I just had a very weird experience with kde... |
| 01:56.17 | dan_ | I configured for the applications menu to show on top.... then *somehow* I managed to put the clock, kicker, systray and application launchers in it |
| 01:56.25 | dan_ | but now I can't seem to do that... |
| 01:56.29 | dan_ | so weird |
| 01:56.54 | annma | User_X: I never use the spacebar on those dialogs |
| 01:57.09 | annma | User_X: I can't say if something changed |
| 01:57.11 | User_X | annma: can u check it? |
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| 01:57.42 | annma | what should I check for example? |
| 01:57.43 | User_X | see if the root dialog u have the space working to check the "keep password" box |
| 01:57.51 | annma | what root dialog? |
| 01:58.12 | annma | one in KControl? |
| 01:58.17 | User_X | for example click the icon konqueror- super user |
| 01:58.43 | User_X | then it will appear a dialog for u enter root pass |
| 01:58.46 | annma | yes |
| 01:58.49 | annma | I have it |
| 01:58.56 | User_X | so? |
| 01:59.16 | annma | there is no Keep Password |
| 01:59.22 | User_X | hu??? |
| 01:59.36 | annma | where should the Spacebar be involved? |
| 01:59.46 | User_X | annma: pay attention |
| 01:59.52 | User_X | ill repeat in other wprds |
| 01:59.57 | annma | yes |
| 02:00.03 | annma | I have the dialog |
| 02:00.07 | annma | what should I do? |
| 02:00.27 | annma | type the password and press spacebar? |
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| 02:02.09 | User_X | when for example u click the icon to run konqueror - super user, appears a dialog for u enter the root password and below is a litle box that u can check called "keep Password", and my problem is that i can only check that litle box with a mouse click, and in past it was possible to check with the space key of the keyboard, so in other words there was a keyboard shortuc to check the litle box |
| 02:02.18 | User_X | annma: exactly |
| 02:02.28 | annma | I don't have the Keep Password box |
| 02:02.34 | User_X | hu??? |
| 02:02.39 | annma | I show you my dialog, moment |
| 02:03.58 | annma | as soon as this pic host will load |
| 02:04.32 | annma | http://img123.echo.cx/my.php?image=kdesu3mp.png |
| 02:05.32 | User_X | gosh that is very weird |
| 02:05.55 | annma | but mine is kde svn trunk |
| 02:06.02 | annma | that will be kde 3.5 |
| 02:06.27 | User_X | im using branch 3.4, but never the less it should exist the box "keep password" |
| 02:06.29 | annma | keeping root password is not a smart thing |
| 02:06.50 | annma | do you use the wallet? |
| 02:06.57 | annma | I don't |
| 02:06.58 | User_X | yes |
| 02:07.02 | annma | so maybe that's why |
| 02:07.06 | User_X | but listen |
| 02:07.08 | annma | I hate the damn wallety |
| 02:07.11 | annma | I hate the damn wallet |
| 02:07.22 | annma | there is the explanation |
| 02:07.24 | User_X | before i updated to the last svn branch 3.4 all was gg ok |
| 02:07.34 | annma | where would it keep the password for me, without wallet? |
| 02:07.48 | annma | that's why it does not ask |
| 02:07.52 | User_X | now the space key shortcut doesnt exist for that |
| 02:07.56 | annma | as it can't keep it |
| 02:08.10 | annma | look in KControl for the global shortcuts |
| 02:08.15 | User_X | hei kwallet as nothing tpo do with root pass |
| 02:08.22 | annma | maybe you assigned the spacebar for somethingelse |
| 02:08.28 | User_X | no i did not |
| 02:08.31 | annma | User_X: of course it has |
| 02:08.42 | annma | where is your root password kept? |
| 02:08.48 | annma | ask yourself that |
| 02:08.58 | qt2 | work right goddamnit! :( |
| 02:09.00 | User_X | kwallet had nothing to do with u enter root password, unless u provied kwallet to do so |
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| 02:09.12 | annma | User_X: please think logically |
| 02:09.20 | User_X | yes im doing it |
| 02:09.23 | annma | where would KDE store the root password??? |
| 02:09.40 | annma | it must be encrypted |
| 02:09.42 | User_X | kwallet only keep pass for example (and if u want) for kmail, kopete, ... |
| 02:09.45 | annma | -> kwallet |
| 02:09.57 | annma | are you sureabout that? |
| 02:10.07 | User_X | and u must provide a pass for kwallet that has nothing to do with root |
| 02:10.09 | User_X | yes i am |
| 02:10.31 | annma | why would root be excluded from the wallet? |
| 02:10.46 | User_X | annma: u need to read kwallet docs |
| 02:11.30 | annma | well, the fact is that I have no Keep root password |
| 02:11.36 | annma | and I am glad I don't have it |
| 02:11.43 | annma | it's a security hazard' |
| 02:12.10 | User_X | A wallet is by default closed, which means that you must supply a password to open it. Once the wallet is opened, the contents can be accessed. |
| 02:12.49 | annma | I was back at the dialog, forgetting the wallet |
| 02:12.52 | User_X | the option continues existing and im glad i can have an option to do so, now the problem is the space key shortcut that was cut off |
| 02:13.14 | User_X | and that i cant get why |
| 02:13.59 | annma | look in kcontrol to see if this key is assigned to anything |
| 02:14.25 | annma | but personally I wouldn't like to be a sysadmin and check that by mistake with the spacebar |
| 02:14.39 | annma | seems too big a hazard |
| 02:14.46 | User_X | yes |
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| 02:15.49 | User_X | in kcontrol even if the space key is assigned to other apps, also has nothing to do with the root password, cuase im talking when is on |
| 02:16.11 | annma | what is your KDE version? |
| 02:16.16 | annma | 3.4 branch svn? |
| 02:16.19 | User_X | already told u |
| 02:16.34 | annma | yes but I don't like scroll back |
| 02:16.54 | annma | isn't there any QWhatsThis help in the dialog? |
| 02:17.54 | User_X | no |
| 02:18.50 | annma | so spacebar should check Keep password button? |
| 02:20.53 | annma | if the feature was in kde 3.4 it should stay in kde3.4 BRANCH |
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| 02:23.57 | User_X | yes tottaly agrree |
| 02:24.23 | annma | it's a rule |
| 02:24.25 | User_X | annma: read my last post in http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107292 |
| 02:25.16 | annma | it's not: noone knows how to fox it |
| 02:25.28 | User_X | like i said this problem appeared in the last svn update, i already ask thac to see if was only in my pc the problem, but no, he also haves it |
| 02:25.28 | annma | its: noone can reproduce it |
| 02:25.47 | User_X | that noone can reproduce i dont get |
| 02:26.15 | annma | you have to find someone with kde3.4 svn branch first |
| 02:26.24 | annma | ten see if he has the same problem |
| 02:26.30 | annma | ten/then |
| 02:26.51 | annma | I have kde trunk as thiago on the comment |
| 02:27.12 | annma | so we cannot 'reproduce' your bug as we don't have the SAME dialog |
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| 02:28.32 | User_X | annma: dont u read what i enter? |
| 02:28.32 | User_X | i just said it |
| 02:28.34 | User_X | like i said this problem appeared in the last svn update, i already ask thac to see if was only in my pc the problem, but no, he also haves it |
| 02:28.44 | annma | For what I have talked in freenode.net #kde channel, no ones knows how to fix this |
| 02:28.48 | annma | you said that |
| 02:29.02 | User_X | [03:25:10] <User_X> like i said this problem appeared in the last svn update, i already ask thac to see if was only in my pc the problem, but no, he also haves it |
| 02:29.03 | annma | you should have said: no one has kde3.4 branch |
| 02:29.23 | annma | who is thac? |
| 02:29.26 | User_X | could u already read what i just entered? |
| 02:29.45 | annma | yes but you mix everything |
| 02:29.49 | User_X | thac is the one whos giving space to put the rpms we do |
| 02:30.02 | annma | so did you have kde 3.4 before? |
| 02:30.08 | annma | kde 3.4 RELEASE |
| 02:30.16 | annma | did you and thac have that? |
| 02:30.38 | User_X | check http://rpm.nyvalls.se/kde10.2.html |
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| 02:31.03 | annma | can't you answer the question? |
| 02:31.30 | annma | does not open |
| 02:31.36 | User_X | annma: some time ago i told that for a long time that me and Thac, we do kde rpms for mandrake |
| 02:31.56 | annma | yes but did you have kde 3.4 RELEASE? |
| 02:32.06 | User_X | does not opemn??? |
| 02:32.14 | annma | was the space working in kde 3.4 RELEASE? |
| 02:32.18 | User_X | yes from the beginning |
| 02:32.25 | annma | beginning of what? |
| 02:32.26 | User_X | always worked |
| 02:32.41 | User_X | from kde 3.2 |
| 02:32.45 | User_X | as i remember |
| 02:32.52 | annma | what about kde 3.4 RELEASE? |
| 02:32.57 | User_X | and kde 3.1 |
| 02:32.58 | annma | that's what matters here |
| 02:33.08 | User_X | i have the last |
| 02:33.12 | annma | 3.2, 3.1 don't matter |
| 02:33.24 | annma | I want to know if it worked in kde 3.4 RELEASE |
| 02:33.25 | User_X | svn update kdelibs-3.4.1 --non-interactive |
| 02:33.25 | User_X | Buscando item externo em 'kdelibs-3.4.1/admin' |
| 02:33.25 | User_X | Externo na revisão 425163. |
| 02:33.25 | User_X | Na revisão 425163. |
| 02:33.36 | jcochran | Anyone here use qtjava or kdejava? |
| 02:33.38 | annma | not 3.4.1 |
| 02:33.44 | annma | 3.4.0 |
| 02:33.52 | annma | did it work for kde 3.4.0? |
| 02:33.57 | User_X | always worked |
| 02:34.08 | annma | so take a screenshot here |
| 02:34.16 | annma | also look in the branch commits |
| 02:34.24 | annma | to see if the code was changed |
| 02:34.31 | annma | prove your point |
| 02:34.36 | User_X | of course it was changed |
| 02:34.45 | annma | did you find where? |
| 02:34.46 | User_X | else now would work |
| 02:34.53 | User_X | im not a kde developer |
| 02:34.54 | jcochran | or have any idea why qtjava/kdejava always bombs horribly? |
| 02:35.04 | annma | you won;t go far with this attitude, User_X |
| 02:35.12 | User_X | sorry |
| 02:35.23 | User_X | its already almost 4 am |
| 02:35.27 | annma | either you want it to work and you help |
| 02:35.32 | User_X | please aplogize me |
| 02:35.37 | annma | or you wehine and it goes nowhere |
| 02:36.07 | User_X | but i ask and ask and no one cares about it :( |
| 02:36.21 | User_X | it i was a kde developer i would care... |
| 02:36.25 | User_X | if* |
| 02:37.00 | User_X | so far only you were the only who cared |
| 02:37.14 | User_X | why is that kind of attitude? |
| 02:37.21 | annma | you don;t help finding if it's true |
| 02:37.21 | User_X | from other developers? |
| 02:37.39 | User_X | but i dont know more what to say |
| 02:37.39 | annma | post a screenshot of your dialog first |
| 02:37.44 | User_X | already said all i know |
| 02:37.48 | annma | in the bug report |
| 02:37.50 | User_X | in the bug report? |
| 02:37.52 | User_X | ok |
| 02:37.53 | annma | yes |
| 02:37.56 | annma | and then |
| 02:38.03 | annma | look in the commits archives |
| 02:38.15 | annma | find WHERE this was changed |
| 02:38.26 | annma | is it kdebase or kdelibs? |
| 02:39.03 | annma | or make that thac add a note in your bug report |
| 02:39.09 | annma | vote for it |
| 02:39.33 | annma | you have many ways in making your report bettre |
| 02:39.35 | annma | better' |
| 02:39.49 | qt2 | woot \o/ |
| 02:39.58 | qt2 | Gentoo! \o/ |
| 02:42.11 | User_X | annma: that part to see where is the code, is not my field, neither i have the time to do it, unfortunally |
| 02:42.30 | annma | well in that case you won't get any answer |
| 02:42.36 | annma | there are tons of bugs |
| 02:42.42 | User_X | if i would know that, i would already fixed it |
| 02:42.58 | annma | well then you know kde code |
| 02:43.13 | annma | as you saw I don't have that |
| 02:43.29 | User_X | i dont kde code, just know C, and im only able to make one ot other patches for mandrake |
| 02:43.47 | annma | I cannot help better than thiago then |
| 02:43.52 | annma | I just have trunk |
| 02:44.02 | User_X | yes |
| 02:44.07 | User_X | and im very tired |
| 02:44.13 | User_X | what time is there annma |
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| 02:44.25 | annma | its time to go for me |
| 02:44.40 | User_X | eheheh |
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| 02:44.42 | User_X | i didnt ask that |
| 02:44.46 | annma | bye! |
| 02:44.59 | qt2 | woah... i didnt know XChat did /amsg across all server tabs... that's kinda... stupid IMHO... <.<; |
| 02:45.03 | khiloa | can you start more than one superkaramba theme at once automatically at startup |
| 02:45.29 | jcochran | never mind... I got qtjava working |
| 02:45.33 | jcochran | what a pain, but how utterly cool |
| 02:45.34 | grepper | khiloa: sure |
| 02:45.59 | jcochran | now if only KDevelop would work, I wouldn't have to jump through these hoops :) |
| 02:46.28 | khiloa | is there a way to make it remember all the themes it had open or something? |
| 02:47.04 | jcochran | Does kdevelop have any sort of class completion? |
| 02:48.20 | grepper | khiloa: you could just use a shell script |
| 02:48.34 | grepper | you could try just saving the session as well |
| 02:50.46 | khiloa | oh cool I didn't know it could accept multiple inputs like "superkaramba theme1.theme theme2.theme" from the command line like that |
| 02:50.51 | khiloa | I guess I wasn't thinking |
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| 03:02.05 | Pupeno | Hello |
| 03:02.08 | Pupeno | Is there some known bug of kmail not storing sent mails ? |
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| 03:08.44 | jkeel | Pupeno: not that I know of.. |
| 03:09.30 | Pupeno | well, it is not doing it. |
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| 03:14.19 | nilss | hi |
| 03:15.01 | nilss | is there any way to lock the screen of the kde session on :0 as root using dcop? |
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| 03:19.11 | jkeel | Pupeno: that's very weird.. |
| 03:19.23 | jkeel | Pupeno: what KDe version? |
| 03:19.30 | Pupeno | I found it, it was a very bad accident. |
| 03:19.30 | qt2 | hm.. might someone reccomed some good kde apps to emerge for a general use desktop system? trying to make this thing "family friendly"... <.<; |
| 03:19.40 | qt2 | /topic #kde |
| 03:19.42 | qt2 | oops |
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| 03:21.11 | grepper | nilss: probably |
| 03:21.52 | nilss | grepper: how would i do that? |
| 03:25.01 | qt2 | you know... i wish kde had full transparency... <.<; |
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| 03:31.50 | grepper | nilss: hmm |
| 03:32.03 | grepper | dcop --all-users --user robert --session .DCOPserver_phebehouse.gloucester.ca__0 kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 03:32.07 | grepper | seems to work :P |
| 03:32.55 | nilss | why doesn't dcop have a manual page? :) |
| 03:33.13 | grepper | not sure the --all-users should be in there |
| 03:33.37 | grepper | does on debian |
| 03:33.45 | grepper | but its just basically dcop --help |
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| 04:20.57 | Quinn_Storm | bug 107374 has been filed about it |
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| 06:21.52 | pinotree | hello |
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| 06:29.28 | slayerbob | hiya pinotree |
| 06:29.38 | slayerbob | and anyone else who is awake :P |
| 06:30.00 | Venson | hey slayerbob |
| 06:30.11 | slayerbob | hiya Venson |
| 06:30.18 | Venson | slayerbob: how goes? |
| 06:30.19 | pinotree | slayerbob: where are you in our little world? |
| 06:30.30 | slayerbob | oh not too bad i guess Venson |
| 06:30.40 | Venson | good to hear :) |
| 06:30.43 | slayerbob | i have figured out how to make my employer pay me to learn C++ :P |
| 06:30.47 | Venson | lol |
| 06:31.05 | Venson | C++ isn't too hard to learn |
| 06:31.09 | slayerbob | yeah i know |
| 06:31.15 | slayerbob | i have just never bothered before |
| 06:31.30 | slayerbob | but it is proving quite easy |
| 06:31.41 | slayerbob | prolly cos i already know lots of other languages :P |
| 06:32.04 | Venson | right...same with me |
| 06:32.11 | Venson | but i know C++ |
| 06:32.15 | slayerbob | heh |
| 06:32.25 | slayerbob | well at the rate i am going so will i shortly :P |
| 06:32.32 | Venson | hehe |
| 06:32.32 | slayerbob | unless they come up with some actual work for me to do |
| 06:32.46 | slayerbob | had to spend two hours debugging a stored procedure this afternoon :( |
| 06:32.47 | Venson | oh yeah..that's the part i dislike too |
| 06:32.57 | slayerbob | was an inconvenient distraction from the c++ |
| 06:33.44 | slayerbob | but i am looking forward to being able to build qt gui apps :P |
| 06:34.08 | Venson | slayerbob: what're you planning to build? |
| 06:34.22 | slayerbob | well first project is going to be some basic internet cafe software |
| 06:34.27 | slayerbob | so i can convert my internet cafes to linux :P |
| 06:34.42 | slayerbob | need to get that done by the end of september |
| 06:34.49 | slayerbob | so it is all ready for next busy season |
| 06:35.00 | slayerbob | would prefer to get it done by the end of july though so that we can have some testing first |
| 06:35.10 | Venson | sounds cool |
| 06:35.20 | slayerbob | heh is nothing special |
| 06:35.26 | slayerbob | literally just a button and a timer :P |
| 06:35.35 | slayerbob | and connection to the database backend |
| 06:35.49 | slayerbob | would take me about half an hour to build and debug in perl |
| 06:35.56 | slayerbob | but i have no idea how to build a gui in perl :P |
| 06:36.01 | slayerbob | well... gui application |
| 06:36.09 | Venson | perl has no gui bindings? |
| 06:36.15 | slayerbob | oh it probably does |
| 06:36.17 | Venson | i thought it did...tcl/tk stuff.. |
| 06:36.29 | slayerbob | but i need to learn qt stuff anyways |
| 06:36.30 | Venson | right |
| 06:36.33 | slayerbob | yeah it has wx bindings too iirc |
| 06:36.40 | slayerbob | but qt soooo pretty :D |
| 06:36.45 | Venson | slayerbob: go with Java, perhaps...easier than C++ |
| 06:36.51 | slayerbob | erm |
| 06:36.55 | slayerbob | c++ is easy enough as it is... |
| 06:37.06 | Venson | lol...well, Java's a nursery... |
| 06:37.19 | slayerbob | i am not exactly a beginning programmer... |
| 06:37.23 | Venson | i know |
| 06:37.44 | slayerbob | but the last time i did any gui stuff it was in asm :P |
| 06:37.48 | Venson | anyway...disregard my thoughtless suggestions |
| 06:37.59 | Venson | ouch |
| 06:38.17 | slayerbob | was easier than you would think |
| 06:38.25 | slayerbob | since there was not much to guis back in those days :P |
| 06:38.51 | slayerbob | built something flasher than win31 in about two weeks |
| 06:39.07 | slayerbob | admittedly win31 is about as non-flash as you can get :P |
| 06:39.22 | slayerbob | but i was impressed with myself for the dev time in asm :P |
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| 06:42.21 | slayerbob | yay just sold an old raid card :P |
| 06:42.28 | slayerbob | admittedly only for $10 :( |
| 06:42.34 | slayerbob | but at least it will be gone now :P |
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| 06:43.43 | marcusU | I don't think anyone wants the hardware that even I don't want. |
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| 06:45.05 | slayerbob | lol |
| 06:45.07 | slayerbob | what hardware is that |
| 06:45.10 | slayerbob | hiya anisX :P |
| 06:45.20 | slayerbob | i have another raid controller here |
| 06:45.38 | slayerbob | but it is a nice promise raid controller so i am saving that for when i can afford a couple of identical hdds :P |
| 06:45.46 | marcusU | slayerbob: How about an Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI adapter with no BIOS? Works fine except you can't boot from it. |
| 06:46.24 | marcusU | No BIOS cuz when I tried to upgrade the BIOS, it told me that the upgrade failed, and then it wouldn't let me recover to old BIOS, either. |
| 06:46.25 | slayerbob | no bios ? |
| 06:46.31 | slayerbob | how did you manage that ? |
| 06:46.32 | slayerbob | ah |
| 06:46.40 | slayerbob | pull the chip out and flash it in an eeprom burner |
| 06:47.14 | marcusU | Uh, I don't have an EEPROM burner, and I don't have a copy of the original BIOS. It was easier/cheaper to buy an LSI adapter for $100. |
| 06:47.23 | slayerbob | lol |
| 06:47.38 | slayerbob | most good electronics stores have eeprom burners and will put images onto chips for you |
| 06:47.43 | slayerbob | for a small fee of course |
| 06:47.54 | slayerbob | the place i used to go to in christchurch charged me $5 last time |
| 06:48.02 | slayerbob | saved an at the time $200 motherboard for me :P |
| 06:48.22 | marcusU | Oh well. |
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| 06:49.43 | anisX | slayerbob: oi oi |
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| 06:59.07 | qt2 | yeesh, kdepim is a huge compile... what is it? <.<; |
| 07:00.04 | marcusU | qt2: KMail and PIM stuff like Kontact and KOrganizer. |
| 07:01.24 | qt2 | ah... |
| 07:01.30 | qt2 | explains why it's so big i suppose... |
| 07:01.42 | qt2 | what exactly does PIM stand for again? <.<; |
| 07:02.03 | marcusU | Personal information manager/management. Somthing like that. |
| 07:02.56 | slayerbob | :o |
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| 07:03.40 | qt2 | ah |
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| 07:15.24 | egonw | do Dirk Mueller or Richard Dale happen to be around? |
| 07:18.23 | canllaith_pb | this is the users channel. Core developers don't tend to hang out in here much. |
| 07:18.29 | canllaith_pb | but not many others. |
| 07:18.54 | egonw | canllaith_pb: ack, thanx |
| 07:19.25 | canllaith_pb | If it's something important, their email addresses are easily found all over google. |
| 07:19.45 | egonw | canllaith_pb: already emailed them :) |
| 07:19.49 | canllaith_pb | :) |
| 07:20.11 | marcusU | I wish I could do something to help that poor Nigerian woman who keeps emailing me. |
| 07:20.23 | slayerbob | marcusU: you mean like kill her ? |
| 07:20.44 | slayerbob | that would certainly help lots of those nigerian scammers :P |
| 07:20.59 | marcusU | They're not scammers. You can't lie on the internet. |
| 07:21.08 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 07:21.12 | slayerbob | just as well you pointed that out to me :P |
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| 08:15.45 | pholie | hi, can someone confirm this bug? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107329 |
| 08:16.49 | pholie | only try in Konsole, if it remembers Encoding setting |
| 08:18.09 | marcusU | pholie: Same thing here. |
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| 08:18.33 | marcusU | (Konsole 1.5.1, using KDE 3.4.1) (recent CVS from the 3.4 branch) |
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| 08:19.05 | pholie | me 3.4.1 too |
| 08:19.21 | pholie | can you please write some comment there? thanks |
| 08:20.25 | marcusU | Now bugs.kde.org isn't coming up for me. |
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| 08:22.57 | marcusU | It came up a minute ago when I first looked for pholie 's bug. |
| 08:23.17 | pholie | kde.org is fine, now only bugs.kde.org stopped working |
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| 08:26.55 | pholie | interesting, pinging the server works, but page doesn't load |
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| 08:39.33 | pholie | ok, try http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107329 again |
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| 08:45.27 | _rober | hi |
| 08:45.38 | _rober | anyone knows if is it possible to insert a mysql query result into kword ? |
| 08:47.08 | slayerbob | of course it is |
| 08:47.14 | _rober | how ? |
| 08:47.20 | _rober | copy/paste ? :) |
| 08:47.33 | slayerbob | well one way would be to run the query in mysql then copy and paste the results into kword |
| 08:47.34 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:47.35 | slayerbob | yup |
| 08:47.48 | slayerbob | i've helped you before then ? :P |
| 08:47.54 | _rober | :S |
| 08:48.52 | StevenR | slayerbob: all but one of my results came up today! |
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| 08:49.41 | slayerbob | StevenR: dammit how are you going to sue them now ? |
| 08:50.00 | StevenR | slayerbob: dunno, maybe over the project screwiness |
| 08:50.11 | slayerbob | heh |
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| 08:50.41 | StevenR | slayerbob: if i was getting really desparate i could use my test rig and injure myself, but i'm not that desparate |
| 08:50.46 | pholie | pls, can you confirm this bug? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107329 |
| 08:51.55 | StevenR | sorry, can't confirm yet, don't have kde3.4.1 yet |
| 08:53.44 | pholie | ok, someone else? |
| 08:53.53 | slayerbob | well i just downloaded it |
| 08:53.59 | slayerbob | was just contemplating installing it on my desktop |
| 08:54.21 | slayerbob | since i completely failed to break it when i installed kde 3.4.0 a few days ago :P |
| 08:55.32 | pholie | there's something bad in 3.4.1, sometimes kwin crashes on startup, sometimes randomly |
| 08:55.44 | slayerbob | nice |
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| 08:56.06 | pholie | we have been talking about this on forum but didn't find the reason why it does it |
| 08:57.32 | pholie | either it's kde or qt that's buggy |
| 08:58.05 | StevenR | gotta go, later folks |
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| 09:02.14 | nimatar | why does kde always start at the highest resolution set in xorg.conf? |
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| 09:02.57 | nimatar | I've tried to change it with the control center but if I restart kde it still starts at 1600x1200 |
| 09:03.29 | nimatar | Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 09:03.41 | nimatar | I've that in xorg.conf |
| 09:04.09 | nimatar | I also tried: Modes "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" |
| 09:04.38 | grepper | because it (Xorg) uses the first mode in that list |
| 09:04.53 | nimatar | but the desktop is still 1600x1200 while the screen is 1280x960... |
| 09:05.00 | slayerbob | nimatar: have you tried rearranging the order of the modes in xorg.conf ? |
| 09:05.09 | slayerbob | ohhh |
| 09:05.18 | nimatar | yes that was what i tried |
| 09:05.40 | nimatar | but than you have to scroll the desktop with the mouse |
| 09:05.42 | grepper | nimatar: you have a virtual option there ? |
| 09:06.53 | nimatar | grepper, don't see it |
| 09:08.40 | grepper | DisplaySize or anything else that might cause it ? |
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| 09:11.34 | nimatar | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tjYCVl11.html |
| 09:11.49 | nimatar | that's my xorg.conf |
| 09:13.34 | nimatar | DisplaySize 310 230 |
| 09:14.08 | grepper | is that correct ? |
| 09:14.20 | nimatar | yes it should be... |
| 09:14.22 | grepper | you don't really need it, try commenting it out |
| 09:14.28 | lauri | that won't affect the size of the desktop in that way |
| 09:14.30 | lauri | you do need it |
| 09:14.37 | lauri | if you want sane font sizes |
| 09:15.04 | grepper | well, it was a troubleshooting step, if you say it won't affect virtual size, then ok |
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| 09:15.19 | lauri | you're seeing this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-19600-0.html&highlight= |
| 09:15.25 | lauri | right? |
| 09:15.43 | jql | Can someone point me at the knob to twiddle to disable monitor powersave? |
| 09:15.58 | jql | not on screensaver, and not on power management. I'm stumped |
| 09:16.11 | lauri | it is in fact on both |
| 09:16.20 | lauri | and you need to deselect it on both |
| 09:16.35 | lauri | and if they're not there, it's not KDE that is doing the powersaving, look at your OS acpi settings |
| 09:17.06 | jql | alright. thanks for the pointer |
| 09:17.42 | grepper | nimatar: you still have "1600x1200" as the 1st mode under your default depth |
| 09:18.07 | nimatar | yes but I already changed that |
| 09:18.39 | nimatar | but, becouse it didn't work I changed it back |
| 09:18.50 | grepper | if you don't want it, why ? |
| 09:19.58 | nimatar | I want it for some other full screen programs |
| 09:20.26 | lauri | have a really close look through your logs |
| 09:20.36 | nimatar | higher resolutions than I use in kde I mean |
| 09:20.45 | lauri | probably it can't find a mode where the hsync and the size both fit (especially if it's asking your monitor 'can you do this') |
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| 09:21.22 | lauri | because monitors are lying dogs, and fib about it (mine insists it can't do more than 1280x1024 at high refresh rates, it's completely bogus, it can do far more than that) |
| 09:21.30 | lauri | ok, let's say, they are very conservative |
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| 09:21.55 | nimatar | hmm ok, where are those logs? |
| 09:21.59 | lauri | so try turning off EDID (or whatever it's called in your x config, the option where it asks your monitor for applicable modes) |
| 09:22.13 | lauri | X log should go to /var/log/Xorg.<display>.log |
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| 09:22.47 | lauri | what happens now: X says "hey, monitor, what can you do" monitor replies with conservative list of it's capabilities, they don't match anything precisely in your X config, so it does the bst it can |
| 09:23.24 | lauri | what you want: X says "hey, gimme 1600xwhatever at whatever refresh rate", monitor either can, or can't (but it won't lie about it anymore), if it can, you get it, if not, it starts stepping down until it can |
| 09:24.09 | nimatar | yes, but if I but 1600x1200 as first option those resolution works fine |
| 09:24.25 | nimatar | I just don't want to use it for kde |
| 09:25.08 | nimatar | if I don't put it at all also 1280x960 works fine |
| 09:25.17 | lauri | then start KDE with the one you do want (or use a second screen section) |
| 09:25.41 | lauri | so you can do startx (get 1600x1200) or startx -- -layout kde and get (whatever you want for KDE) |
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| 09:25.53 | lauri | or vice versa, have kde the default and make the higher res the optional one |
| 09:26.08 | lauri | X configs are infinitely flexible like that |
| 09:26.19 | lauri | or have KDE step it down with krandr |
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| 09:26.29 | pholie | nimatar: isn't kcontrol-peripherals-display and "apply settings on kde startup" what you are searching? |
| 09:26.33 | lauri | (there's a tray applet for that too, so you can switch around on the fly, there's a couple of caveats to that though) |
| 09:26.48 | lauri | right, what pholie said, is krandr |
| 09:27.11 | slayerbob | is it just me or is kde 3.4.1 really speedy ? |
| 09:27.44 | nimatar | pholie, didn't see the option "apply settings on kde startup" :\ |
| 09:27.55 | nimatar | that was where I was looking for |
| 09:28.11 | pholie | hmm |
| 09:28.18 | lauri | then you maybe don't have it installed, if you use a distribution that breaks things up into itty bitty bits |
| 09:28.44 | nimatar | no, it _is_ there, i just don't saw it... |
| 09:28.47 | nimatar | :| |
| 09:29.02 | lauri | oh heh :) |
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| 09:30.31 | BMOC | hi |
| 09:30.35 | BMOC | anyone using kde bluetooth stuff? |
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| 09:31.31 | nimatar | ok it works now |
| 09:31.39 | termo | BMOC: i have used it in the past |
| 09:31.40 | nimatar | thanks everybody for his time |
| 09:31.50 | BMOC | well, i thought everything was installed right but |
| 09:31.55 | BMOC | Open 'sdp://[08:00:37:12...25&rfcommchannel=3'? |
| 09:31.55 | BMOC | Type: Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile |
| 09:32.02 | BMOC | it says that when it should work correctly |
| 09:32.13 | BMOC | how do i tell it what to open that type with, or what do i open that type with? |
| 09:32.24 | BMOC | konq. doesn't know how to deal with taht file type |
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| 09:36.55 | BMOC | rter? |
| 09:36.56 | BMOC | termo? |
| 09:37.02 | termo | yes? |
| 09:37.18 | termo | ah |
| 09:37.31 | termo | hmm |
| 09:37.40 | termo | I only used right-click send with bluetooth |
| 09:37.44 | termo | it finds the device |
| 09:37.44 | BMOC | when i click on a bluetooth hands free profile |
| 09:37.46 | termo | and it works |
| 09:37.46 | BMOC | it doesn't knwo what to do |
| 09:37.49 | termo | :D |
| 09:38.33 | BMOC | i think i just paired it! |
| 09:38.59 | BMOC | i cannot send files to it, though:) |
| 09:39.02 | BMOC | as the phone doesn't support that |
| 09:39.05 | BMOC | but the phone shows it now |
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| 10:57.46 | cebulon | HI, i have problems to get soundevents (Kopete,K3B,KDE) to play, AMAROK,Thunderbird works |
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| 11:08.27 | ArcSine | is there any command you can run to log out of kde? |
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| 11:09.08 | ro28 | ArcSine: you could do it with dcop... |
| 11:09.16 | ArcSine | how? |
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| 11:09.44 | ro28 | ArcSine: dcop ksmserver default logout x y z |
| 11:09.54 | ro28 | ArcSine: the 'x y z' are integers, I don't know what they mean I'm afraid. |
| 11:10.31 | ro28 | ArcSine: (i.e., I'm not sure what values you should specify for x, y, z) |
| 11:10.34 | canllaith_pb | '1' '1' and '1' works |
| 11:10.38 | canllaith_pb | I believe |
| 11:10.40 | pinotree | ArcSine: iirc '0 0 0' means simply logout, no shutdown nor reboot |
| 11:10.46 | canllaith_pb | I think :) |
| 11:10.57 | ArcSine | the thing is that what i have in /etc/acpi/shutdown.sh doesn't work |
| 11:10.58 | canllaith_pb | Yeah, I think it also has the option to override the confirmation from there too depending what values you put in |
| 11:11.34 | ArcSine | ok |
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| 12:45.29 | pholie | can I use KDM themes from http://kde-look.org./index.php?xcontentmode=40 or I need to install something first? |
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| 12:46.11 | Jejem | hi annma |
| 12:46.24 | pholie | Is it standard KDE feature or not? |
| 12:46.44 | annma | hi! |
| 12:48.39 | Jejem | pholie: think you needn't to install anything to use that :) |
| 12:48.40 | lauri | it is, but it's new (3.4 or later) |
| 12:48.43 | Lord-Phoenix | pholie: yes you can |
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| 12:49.44 | pholie | Jejem: I only extract the theme somewhere? |
| 12:50.34 | Jejem | ~/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes |
| 12:51.50 | pholie | great, i will try |
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| 12:56.29 | pholie | Jejem: hmm wait, i meant KDM themes, when you log into system |
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| 13:12.25 | Alfred1881 | hey all i just installed synaptics from the CD , but how can i start it ? typing "synaptic(s)" does not help |
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| 13:27.54 | PhilRod | ah, ok |
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| 14:28.15 | _rober | hi |
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| 14:33.43 | chx | I've tested KGPG and now kmail wants to everything , text files, patch files mailed to me with kgpg , how the hell could I cure this idiocy? |
| 14:34.31 | chx | in Control Center // Application preferences order Kate is the first |
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| 15:21.11 | _ugly | how do i configure the behavior of that "clipboard checking" thingy? |
| 15:22.17 | pinotree | _ugly: righ click on klipper -> configure klipper -> clipboard/selection behaviour |
| 15:22.21 | pinotree | right* |
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| 15:22.31 | highway | hi |
| 15:22.37 | pinotree | hello highway |
| 15:22.39 | highway | i'm new operator of linux |
| 15:22.50 | _ugly | pinotree: oh, duh, thx |
| 15:22.58 | pinotree | _ugly: np |
| 15:23.17 | PhilRod | _ugly: also, open "help:/klipper" in konqueror |
| 15:23.18 | highway | i d like know how can i install kde? |
| 15:23.28 | PhilRod | (it's quite good, if I do say so myself :-) |
| 15:23.38 | PhilRod | bbl |
| 15:23.42 | spiderworm | hi all, sftp in konqueror doesnt seem to be working for me, it will ask me for a password and then just sit there, is there some way i can figure out what's going on? |
| 15:23.58 | pinotree | highway: depends on your distro |
| 15:24.06 | highway | red hat 9.0 |
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| 15:28.07 | NullAcht15 | hi, I have a problem with my kicker panels. I have set them all to auto-hide, but when I move my cursor to the respective screen edge, they won't reappear. It works for a few seconds after starting a kde session and then stops working. I'm using an up-to-date subversion snapshot |
| 15:28.57 | mikl | NullAcht15: if you run on SVN, you will get these errors :) |
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| 15:30.41 | NullAcht15 | yes, but maybe there's a dev hearing this who might be interested in that and might be able to do something about it |
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| 15:36.04 | lauri | that's what bugs.kde.org is for |
| 15:36.18 | lauri | first: update, second: rebuild, third: file a bug if it's still happening |
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| 15:36.59 | lauri | (although in this specific case, the lord and master of kicker is here pretty often, there's this whole timezone thing too, and in a really busy channel like this, unless you saw him talking in the last ten minutes, odds are he'll never see it |
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| 15:41.32 | _rober | hi |
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| 15:45.46 | _rober | i need to know a way to switch beween X server layouts, any ideas ? |
| 15:46.38 | slayerbob | -layout ? |
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| 15:46.47 | slayerbob | on the command line in any case :P |
| 15:47.00 | slayerbob | or was that --layout... |
| 15:47.06 | slayerbob | will be in the documentation for X in any case |
| 15:47.50 | _rober | then we come to the next problem, how do i tell kdm i want X to start with a different command line (-layout in this case) ? |
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| 16:00.02 | lauri | make a script |
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| 16:00.16 | lauri | that runs startx with the configuration you want |
| 16:00.23 | lauri | run the script instead of startx (or an alias would do) |
| 16:00.28 | epyon9283 | or just change the line in kdmrc |
| 16:01.29 | _ugly | i use the F keys for gnu screen, i can't seem to bind F1-F4 however, whould kde be grabbing these? i removed and shortcuts defined for them... |
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| 16:05.29 | _rober | do you know how to make kdm create a session in which it passes X a different command line ? |
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| 16:06.09 | Julianyus | hi |
| 16:07.45 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.19 | grepper | AIUI, if the TryExec= is sucessful, then kdm makes the session available |
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| 16:10.07 | airox | Is there some configuration option to let Konqueror see the page while it's not completely loaded ? |
| 16:10.12 | grepper | might be $KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ if you don't have the above |
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| 16:18.15 | Themafia | is there a way to make the menu in the lower left corner in konsole pop-up quicker? |
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| 16:22.52 | bruno- | Hi, I would like to enlist for a google-summer-of-code-bounty, anyone I can talk to about that? |
| 16:25.54 | _ugly | is there a way i do a alt-tab (move focus to next window) from the command line? |
| 16:27.15 | ukohsc | perhaps using dcop? |
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| 16:31.02 | __Pete__ | when i logon to this suse box (suse 9.2 FTP, all yast updates) i get an error 'file protocol for kdesktop died unexpectedly' |
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| 16:32.45 | Lord-Phoenix | janushead: hi, are you around? |
| 16:32.56 | __Pete__ | anyone know how i can fix this? |
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| 16:46.43 | __Pete__ | any ideas? |
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| 16:48.02 | Flendor | Good evening. |
| 16:48.15 | Jejem | hi Flendor |
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| 16:56.00 | Crissi | hi |
| 16:56.43 | Crissi | is there a fix for freezing kmail when recieving new mail and doing spam checking through spamassign? |
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| 16:56.48 | Crissi | its a hassle |
| 16:56.53 | Lord-Phoenix | hi |
| 16:57.22 | Crissi | kmail can do spam checking in a other tread,,.. |
| 16:57.35 | Crissi | then it should not freeze |
| 16:59.40 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: i am |
| 17:00.54 | Lord-Phoenix | janushead: i know its pretty late in the game and everything, but i'd like to talk about the "Usability Improvements" proposal for the google summer of code |
| 17:01.16 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: of course! |
| 17:01.18 | Lord-Phoenix | janushead: coz i gotta send off an application fairly quick-smart |
| 17:03.09 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: what do you mean? |
| 17:03.11 | Lord-Phoenix | janushead: is there anything extra to whats on the kde page that you can tell me about it? |
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| 17:05.06 | Lord-Phoenix | hmm |
| 17:05.44 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: i cant find much on the 2005-pages. what we did last year was http://conference2004.kde.org/usabilityforum/usability_akademy.html |
| 17:05.52 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: i have something similar but better in mind |
| 17:06.30 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: for this year |
| 17:06.41 | janushead | Lord-Phoenix: so it is open to any suggestions. |
| 17:08.02 | Lord-Phoenix | janushead: because after reading it, i was thinking for the first bit a dcop controlled, OSD app/daemon |
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| 17:08.49 | Lord-Phoenix | that could provide various levels of feedback base on their experience & preference |
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| 17:11.34 | titanium | salut a tous |
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| 17:12.52 | Flendor | Salut! |
| 17:13.18 | Flendor | Si tu veux parler en Français, il y'a #kde-fr |
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| 17:15.15 | Bearcat | hey folks |
| 17:15.28 | Bearcat | well noone is answering in #kopete so i'll try here :) |
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| 17:17.44 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 17:18.16 | amorphix | does anyone know how to adjust the Gamma in KDE? |
| 17:18.46 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.20 | amorphix | as soon as i close the settings window, it changes the gamma back |
| 17:19.30 | amorphix | am i missing something? |
| 17:19.48 | pinotree | stupid question: do you click on apply? ;-) |
| 17:20.29 | pinotree | amorphix: ^^^ |
| 17:20.37 | amorphix | yeah |
| 17:20.59 | amorphix | its strange, it seems to remember the setting when i return to the gamma settings window and changes the screen |
| 17:21.09 | amorphix | but as soon as i close that window, the gamma reverts back |
| 17:21.33 | amorphix | i dont understand it |
| 17:22.19 | amorphix | maybe im just dumb |
| 17:23.57 | amorphix | hi |
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| 17:27.24 | amorphix | im confuse |
| 17:27.26 | amorphix | d |
| 17:29.07 | amorphix | jamacia, bahamas, come on pretty mamma, montega, ooo i wanna take ya |
| 17:31.10 | moxilo | have any konqueror with flash? (x86_64) |
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| 17:31.36 | freet | hi |
| 17:31.45 | moxilo | hi man u are welcome :P |
| 17:31.50 | freet | :) |
| 17:33.26 | amorphix | hi |
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| 17:36.01 | sheldon_hearn | anyone know command-line magic to get kphone to dial a number without starting up another sip registration and kphone window? our office has moved to SIP-based PABX and i want to be able to dial contacts from KAddressBook |
| 17:36.30 | amorphix | hi |
| 17:37.07 | amorphix | hehe |
| 17:38.18 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 17:38.48 | freet | amorphix: hello :) |
| 17:38.53 | amorphix | :) |
| 17:39.14 | amorphix | freet do you know about gamma? |
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| 17:39.28 | freet | amorphix: nope not really |
| 17:39.32 | freet | whats that? |
| 17:39.42 | amorphix | not the radiation |
| 17:39.49 | amorphix | the colours |
| 17:40.30 | amorphix | does NOBODY gamma calibrate their monitors here?? |
| 17:41.18 | snugglemonkey | amorphix: most people that play video games, adjust the game to match the screen. Unreal, for instance... or Far Cry. |
| 17:41.33 | amorphix | i see |
| 17:41.53 | amorphix | what about design users, gimp etc |
| 17:41.59 | Lord-Phoenix | amorphix: hell no....i mean, i'd have to touch it to do that, and it i touched it.....well, the radiation might get me ;P |
| 17:42.00 | amorphix | or just photo editing and viewing |
| 17:42.47 | amorphix | i cant believe you guys are so slack |
| 17:42.52 | snugglemonkey | amorphix: i have before on my windoz machine, but for the linux machine, I don't touch it. :( |
| 17:43.16 | amorphix | linux is the place you really do need to touch it, windows manages gamma well |
| 17:43.17 | snugglemonkey | amorphix: perhaps linux is that perfect, that no one needs to. :-D |
| 17:43.28 | Flendor | Gone for a bit.. |
| 17:43.41 | amorphix | u're kidding |
| 17:43.51 | amorphix | mine is way off |
| 17:44.02 | amorphix | i think you guys must be colour blind |
| 17:44.08 | freet | :d |
| 17:44.16 | freet | you think colours are that bad? :) |
| 17:44.23 | amorphix | sure |
| 17:44.34 | snugglemonkey | my nVidia's were not too bad. My ati was off by a bit. |
| 17:44.46 | amorphix | i guess it depends on your card |
| 17:44.54 | snugglemonkey | and besides, I use LCD, so to adjust teh colors, I just move my head around a tad. ;) |
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| 17:44.58 | amorphix | im running an ati mach |
| 17:45.07 | Lord-Phoenix | amorphix: there is magnetic distortion fairly close to my monitor which fucks it up on a regular basis, so i don't bother |
| 17:45.21 | amorphix | oh |
| 17:45.25 | freet | Lord-Phoenix: cool :p |
| 17:45.40 | Lord-Phoenix | and besides, nvidia geforce is way past ati mach, etc for gamma, etc |
| 17:46.11 | Lord-Phoenix | freet: well, maybe ;P if 'cool' is where my colours get leeched away from a particular corner |
| 17:46.11 | amorphix | well i would run something better |
| 17:46.15 | amorphix | but im using a laptop |
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| 17:46.42 | amorphix | new solaris release? |
| 17:47.03 | snugglemonkey | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ |
| 17:47.13 | amorphix | phew i thought that was dead |
| 17:47.29 | freet | question: does anyone have some experience with konstruct & multiple kde use? |
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| 17:47.51 | snugglemonkey | now, if we could only get kde and solaris and CatiaV5 to play together, I'd be in heaven |
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| 17:48.00 | ShortWave | Hi all |
| 17:48.22 | ShortWave | Catia? |
| 17:48.31 | ShortWave | Seksy |
| 17:48.33 | ShortWave | Anyway |
| 17:48.33 | amorphix | that beach boys song is stuck in my head now |
| 17:48.41 | ShortWave | Anyone here got a second? |
| 17:49.01 | ShortWave | I'm debugging(at least, attempting to) an application that uses QT 2.3.0 |
| 17:49.07 | amorphix | off the florida keeeys, theres a place called kokomo, bodies in the saaand |
| 17:49.41 | ShortWave | it's giving me a segfault at a certain point, and I'd like to be able to inspect the variables that are in use @ a certain part of the code to make sure something isn't wonky |
| 17:49.46 | ShortWave | What's the best way to do that? |
| 17:49.47 | ShortWave | ddd? |
| 17:49.51 | amorphix | ahh bemuda, jamaica, ooo i wanna take ya, bahamas, come on pretty mammas |
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| 17:50.10 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | hi |
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| 17:50.41 | amorphix | JAG could your nick be anymore disfunctional |
| 17:50.41 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | somebody who runs fedora core 4 out there? |
| 17:50.57 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | sorry the other ones where in use |
| 17:51.02 | amorphix | hehe |
| 17:51.15 | amorphix | so he took all three |
| 17:51.15 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | sorry the other ones are in use |
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| 17:51.35 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | no just the last one |
| 17:51.42 | shared_ptr | hey does http://www.linuxpakistan.net/wiki look googly for you guys too? |
| 17:51.45 | shared_ptr | konq 3.3.1 |
| 17:51.50 | amorphix | was that the short one or the longer one? |
| 17:52.57 | amorphix | shared: not loading here |
| 17:53.08 | epyon9283 | shared_ptr: looks ok here |
| 17:53.20 | shared_ptr | epyon9283 which version of konq? |
| 17:53.28 | shared_ptr | epyon9283 the search box seems to overlay text |
| 17:53.31 | shared_ptr | tables seem to be messed up |
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| 17:53.47 | amorphix | yuck, tables |
| 17:53.53 | amorphix | its all mashed up |
| 17:53.58 | shared_ptr | yeah |
| 17:54.02 | amorphix | someone needs to learn css |
| 17:54.22 | shared_ptr | apparently phpwiki |
| 17:54.26 | epyon9283 | shared_ptr: konq 3.4.1. only part that looks messed up is the bottom. the powered by phpwiki image is covering some text. |
| 17:54.41 | shared_ptr | epyon9283 ok |
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| 17:55.16 | amorphix | i think im going off this laptop |
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| 18:02.45 | Toman | Is there a way to customtize the look of the index in the kde personal webserver? |
| 18:02.58 | brk3 | hi just wonderin could anyone tell me how do i install kopete themes? |
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| 18:05.02 | JAG|-Shad-bmnhuk | bye |
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| 18:22.32 | Simkin | omg. i'm using debian and kde 3.4, is there a source i can add to get to 4.1?? |
| 18:22.36 | Simkin | err 3.4.1 |
| 18:23.40 | grepper | Simkin: I think most of it is in experimental now |
| 18:24.22 | grepper | also: deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./ |
| 18:25.09 | grepper | try adding an "experimental" deb line , as well as that |
| 18:27.12 | Toman | Is there a way to customtize the look of the index in the kde personal webserver? |
| 18:28.34 | tjs57 | ok |
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| 18:36.10 | wizzard | hi ppl, need some xchat client for KDE |
| 18:36.22 | Toman | xchat? |
| 18:36.36 | Toman | (why not that? :) ) |
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| 18:37.40 | wizzard | I found that, Konversation, but thx anyway |
| 18:37.52 | qt2 | xchat works in kde... |
| 18:37.55 | qt2 | you know that, right? |
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| 18:51.47 | expose | Hi. |
| 18:52.27 | expose | kopete seems to detect inactivity (of the user, e.g. no mouse movement and so on) - how does it do that? i'd like to go to sleep-mode after a couple of minutes of inactivity. |
| 18:52.38 | expose | (via acpi, which works yet) |
| 18:53.14 | annma | go to #kopete maybe |
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| 18:59.58 | wookie64 | Hello, is there a way to unmount my usb kzy in konqueror? I don't have a "eject" right-click menu entry on the usb key icon... (KDE 3.4.1 on SuSE 9.3) |
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| 19:03.19 | User_X | annma: hi |
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| 19:13.38 | Zalamander | hi |
| 19:13.43 | Zalamander | does KDE have a fstab editor? |
| 19:14.25 | Jejem | don't think, 'm not sure... |
| 19:14.57 | PieD | Zalamander: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=15185 |
| 19:15.38 | Zalamander | PieD thanks, I'm mostly interested to know if one is already included. |
| 19:15.48 | PieD | none is included... |
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| 19:16.10 | Zalamander | ok cool, I'll look at kouvert then. Have you used it yourself, PieD ? |
| 19:16.20 | PieD | no |
| 19:16.28 | PieD | because I don't need a fstab editor |
| 19:16.31 | Zalamander | aight. Thanks |
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| 19:16.41 | PieD | but I saw it on kde apps 1 month ago... |
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| 19:22.55 | earthsound | where can I set up/change my key bindings (e.g. Ctrl+Tab) |
| 19:24.05 | icyfire0573 | its in kcontrol |
| 19:24.13 | icyfire0573 | under regional & accessibility |
| 19:24.18 | icyfire0573 | keyboard shortcuts |
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| 19:30.19 | earthsound | icyfire0573: ty :) |
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| 19:32.29 | _Laurens_ | Hi all im having some trouble with my cursor on kde, when i don't move my mouse for +/- 1-2 sec i get an select cursor instead of the regular pointer! Any clues? |
| 19:33.02 | xpato | what its the program for share the desktop? |
| 19:33.24 | _Laurens_ | xpato? for remote desktop connection? |
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| 19:34.33 | LinuxMafia | hi al |
| 19:34.49 | LinuxMafia | all : i need to install kde-i18n-fa , but new kde does not have it , how can i use old kde ? |
| 19:34.54 | Trist | Hello folks. Is there a setting in kde that would prevent my taskbar entries from being able to flash (i.e, kopete recieves a message yet no notification on the taskbar) |
| 19:35.26 | icyfire0573 | Trist: i think there is a kopete setting to flash the taskbar, so if thats off obviously it won't |
| 19:36.12 | Trist | icyfire0573: yes, thats set to flash it. Doesn't appear to do anything though. |
| 19:36.36 | icyfire0573 | well, i dont know of anything to suppress it from kde so :-( |
| 19:36.59 | Trist | icyfire0573: ok - no worries. I'll keep digging! |
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| 19:37.09 | ritalin | hello |
| 19:37.24 | ritalin | Im curious as to how i turn off the system sounds in kde |
| 19:37.37 | _Laurens_ | any clues for the strange behaviour of my cursor please? :( |
| 19:37.53 | ritalin | i like all the visual effects but it gets annoying when it beeps at me everytime i open an application |
| 19:37.56 | LinuxMafia | all : i need to install kde-i18n-fa , but new kde does not have it , how can i use old kde ? |
| 19:38.25 | _Laurens_ | ritalin: check Control Center -> Sounds |
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| 19:39.29 | eisregen | hi =) |
| 19:39.58 | ritalin | _Laurens_: im there but not sure what to check |
| 19:40.29 | ritalin | i clicked on turn off all sounds but it still beeps when i open applications |
| 19:41.10 | ritalin | nevermind figured it out |
| 19:41.18 | ritalin | had to click apply ;) |
| 19:41.47 | ritalin | its kinda funny when you use fluxbox and aterm so long that you forget how to use nice GUI's |
| 19:41.58 | _Laurens_ | ;) |
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| 19:48.36 | aris | hi there. I wonder if it's possible to have kmail reduced as an applet to know if there is incoming mail or not ? |
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| 19:53.56 | aris | stupid me. i found |
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| 20:02.13 | _alessandro | I bought TRUST webcam. How can I use it in linux ubuntu? |
| 20:02.55 | airox | I've installed the KDE bluetooth framework. When I click on an icon like "Voice gateway" it complains about the fact that konqueror expects a file but that it is a dir. What could be the problem and is it known ? |
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| 21:03.26 | bobbyd | hi |
| 21:03.53 | gmg9 | hi, there |
| 21:04.12 | bobbyd | I want to make a link to an application in kde and when I hit ctrl-c I want it to exit like it would if it were running at the console |
| 21:04.47 | bobbyd | right now if I hit ctrl-c in the console it exits nicely, but when I run it from the link I made it doesn't exit properly |
| 21:05.02 | bobbyd | this is KDE 3.4.0 |
| 21:05.10 | bobbyd | and kubuntu |
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| 21:06.14 | gmg9 | is that a hotkeys probs? |
| 21:06.30 | bobbyd | gmg9: what would that be? |
| 21:08.04 | gmg9 | hotkeys are like shortkeys for a perticuler apps or command, as u define them in yr distro, like clt+alt+backsapce = session logout in KDE |
| 21:09.10 | lauri | oh my god |
| 21:09.16 | lauri | please don't tell people that |
| 21:09.41 | lauri | (ctrl-alt-backspace is "kill X, take no prisoners, don't log out, just shut ti down" by default) |
| 21:10.05 | bobbyd | how do I launch konsole and run a script in it? |
| 21:10.13 | lauri | it's to KDE what yanking the power cable out of the wall is to your operating system |
| 21:10.19 | bobbyd | that's basically what I want |
| 21:11.17 | lauri | konsole: help:/konsole/sessions.html (to get a button or an entry in the menu to do so, from an open konsole) |
| 21:11.51 | lauri | to run a script from a K menu or kicker or desktop icon, just put the path to the script in the exec part of the icon, and check the 'run in terminal' box |
| 21:12.16 | bobbyd | lauri: yes, but it doesn't just run it in a normal konsole then |
| 21:12.21 | lauri | (wherever that's gone now) |
| 21:12.34 | lauri | bobbyd: no, that's why I suggested the konsole session |
| 21:12.35 | bobbyd | lauri: because when I hit ctrl-c the program doesn't exit properly |
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| 21:13.11 | lauri | then you can run 'konsole --profile name-of-session-profile' to get a konsole running that session type |
| 21:13.29 | bobbyd | ok thanks |
| 21:15.49 | gmg9 | lauri: OH! man, thanks for correct me, i am just a newbei honastly speaking |
| 21:19.41 | gmg9 | but a user can mannualy configure that key |
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| 21:23.13 | gmg9 | PhilRod: how u changing yr nick? |
| 21:23.29 | PhilRod | gmg9: type "/nick mynewnickname" |
| 21:23.51 | lauri | "you" "your" and /nick look-at-me-i-can-spell |
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| 21:24.45 | gmg9 | PhilRod: ok, thanks |
| 21:25.06 | gmg | thats cool |
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| 21:27.03 | gmg | PhilRod; i cant change it to gmg9 |
| 21:27.33 | gmg | it shows "gmg9 :The hand of the deity is upon thee, thy nick may not change (##linux)" |
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| 21:31.19 | ereindil | could someone help me figure out how to run kde through enlightenment? |
| 21:31.33 | ereindil | i want to run in enlightenment but i cant browse files or many of my programs |
| 21:32.01 | gmg | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.12 | PhilRod | if you just want to use a different window manager, set the $KDEWM environment variable |
| 21:32.15 | lauri | you can't just run the application you want? |
| 21:32.39 | lauri | we don't know here how to set up enlightenment's menus and things, but you can always open a shell and type "konqueror" |
| 21:32.57 | lauri | or what phil said, set the KDEWM environment variable and run startkde, you'll get KDE with enlightenment as the window manager |
| 21:35.01 | ereindil | PhilRod, where do i change that variable? |
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| 21:35.37 | PhilRod | ereindil: anywhere that 'startkde' will pick it up. How are you starting KDE? (startx?) |
| 21:35.52 | ereindil | yes 'startx' |
| 21:36.17 | PhilRod | then you can put "export KDEWM=/path/to/enlightenment" in ~/.xinitrc |
| 21:37.10 | ereindil | ok, thanks, i'll try that and come back to tell you if it worked |
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| 21:47.31 | _dirk | Hello |
| 21:47.52 | PhilRod | hi |
| 21:49.17 | _dirk | 'm an absolutly newby. |
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| 21:54.44 | AnotherData | I am still having probs installing fonts systemwide it asks for a root pw then i enter it but it says cannot access "System" folder |
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| 21:58.53 | AnotherData | it worked in kde 3.4 but not with kde 3.4.1 |
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| 21:59.40 | u_int32_t | hey man kicker is frozen but i can still touch the system tray stuff... wtf |
| 22:00.34 | u_int32_t | there it goes ... |
| 22:00.36 | u_int32_t | wth |
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| 22:18.37 | sgomes | hey everyone. I'm working on a small KDE app, but I'm a newbie in Qt/KDE programming and I have a few questions on the best way of doing the main window (programatically vs designer; how to add a drawing area; how to get the layout I need, etc). can anyone give me a hand? |
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| 22:22.05 | lippel | sgomes: for the main window you should use kmainwindow |
| 22:22.40 | lippel | sgomes: then, create the main widget to be shown inside the main window e.g. using designer |
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| 22:23.42 | lippel | sgomes: then call mainWindow->setCentralWidget(mainWidget) or something like that |
| 22:24.37 | lippel | sgomes: you might use the templates provided by kdevelop |
| 22:24.55 | sgomes | lippel: hmm... I need something very simple (for now at least): a menu bar at the top, a bar with buttons at the bottom (a toolbar will do) and the ability to draw stuff between the two. |
| 22:25.24 | sgomes | lippel: so I should design just the central part and add the menus and toolbar programatically? |
| 22:26.33 | lippel | sgomes: yes, that's the kde way. you define menu and toolbars entries in XML, and then create a KAction for it |
| 22:26.52 | lippel | sgomes: do you want a KDE or a pure Qt app? |
| 22:27.22 | sgomes | lippel: KDE |
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| 22:29.16 | lippel | sgomes: "Simple KDE application" template should be a good start |
| 22:29.37 | lippel | it has a main window and uses xmlgui |
| 22:30.04 | lippel | well, it doesn't create any actions |
| 22:30.44 | sgomes | hmm |
| 22:31.05 | sgomes | I'll give it a try then |
| 22:31.19 | sgomes | lippel: thanks for the tips, I appreciate it :) |
| 22:31.43 | lippel | np, i think there is need for a simple example app... |
| 22:32.43 | sgomes | lippel: I've followed the tutorial on women.kde.org, but I had some problems with designer, and the problem is I really don't know what's the "right way" of doing things |
| 22:34.05 | lippel | sgomes: that was also my problem when starting with KDE development... i was able to do it "somehow", but i didn't know the "right way" ;-) |
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| 22:34.22 | lippel | http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/index.html is also a good tutorial |
| 22:35.01 | sgomes | lippel: looks interesting, didn't know that one. thanks! |
| 22:35.25 | lippel | sgomes: what kind of app do you want to develop? |
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| 22:35.54 | sgomes | lippel: well, don't laugh, but I'm thinking of making a karaoke app using the kmid framework |
| 22:38.14 | lippel | heh, seems there isn't any kde app for karaoke yet. so go for it ;-) |
| 22:38.48 | lippel | it has many k's in the name, so it's even easy to find a kde-ish name for it that doesn't suck too much ;-) |
| 22:39.13 | sgomes | hehe, that was the idea ;) in fact, I don't think there's any good karaoke app for linux |
| 22:39.18 | sgomes | well |
| 22:39.32 | sgomes | I'm doing this with a friend |
| 22:39.41 | sgomes | we kind of opted for "Kantigas" |
| 22:40.00 | sgomes | doing, heh, we barely even started |
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| 22:43.04 | lippel | sgomes: awaiting a kde-apps entry soon ;-) |
| 22:43.32 | sgomes | lippel: lol, remember, newbies ;) but that's the plan! |
| 22:44.44 | lippel | sgomes: do you have experience with c++ or Qt? |
| 22:45.10 | sgomes | lippel: I've only done one pretty small project with Qt, but I have experience with C++ |
| 22:45.45 | lippel | well, then you have mastered the hardest part |
| 22:46.39 | sgomes | that's nice to hear! not a big learning curve then? |
| 22:47.50 | lippel | hmm, i can't remember the qt learning curve, i only know that it needed much more time for c++ |
| 22:48.41 | sgomes | well, hopefully! C++ is not fast to get into |
| 22:49.02 | lippel | for KDE, it takes some time to learn the frameworks etc, but for simple things there are tutorials... |
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| 22:49.31 | lippel | it gets a bit nasty from time to time when you want to do complicated things, as the documentation only shows the basics... |
| 22:49.59 | sgomes | yeah, I was already able to get midis playing thanks to the KMidi code |
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| 22:50.10 | sgomes | hopefully there won't be anything too complicated too fast... |
| 22:50.15 | sgomes | too soon I mean |
| 22:50.21 | toonX | how can i find where the KDE headers are located ? |
| 22:51.36 | lippel | toonX: kde-config --prefix |
| 22:51.45 | lippel | +/include |
| 22:52.36 | toonX | lippel kde-config --prefix shows /usr , uhm? |
| 22:53.03 | lippel | toonX: then they should be in /usr/include |
| 22:53.14 | liucougar | anyone got a clue how to open chm files in kdevelop? |
| 22:53.32 | toonX | lippel i'm trying to install a theme , and says it can't find the KDE headers in that prefix i passed |
| 22:53.47 | toonX | lippel let me try it with /usr/include |
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| 22:56.03 | lippel | liucougar: which app do you use outside of kdevelop? |
| 22:56.23 | toonX | lippel nope , not there , or at least this is what configure says, i tried with /usr/include and /usr/include/kde |
| 22:56.23 | liucougar | I tried this: konqueror my.chm |
| 22:56.41 | liucougar | but it complains a undefined symbol in /usr/bin/libkdevwidgets.so |
| 22:56.54 | liucougar | then I tried to open that chm in kdevelop |
| 22:57.02 | lippel | toonX: do you have kdelibs-dev(el) installed? |
| 22:57.04 | liucougar | but kdevelop opens it as a binary |
| 22:57.21 | toonX | lippel let me check, one moment |
| 22:57.33 | liucougar | I just wonder hot to activate the kdevelop chm viewer |
| 22:57.34 | lippel | hmm, i am not sure if there is "native" support for .chm files in KDE |
| 22:57.47 | lippel | is there one in kdevelop? |
| 22:58.05 | toonX | lippel nope, i'm installing the right now :) |
| 22:58.22 | liucougar | lippel: oops, I just selected the chm file in the "recent file" menu |
| 22:58.31 | liucougar | and suddently kdevelop opens it correctly! |
| 22:59.00 | liucougar | lippel: thanks |
| 23:00.48 | lippel | liucougar: uh, indeed =) |
| 23:00.56 | lippel | same here, using kdevelop from svn |
| 23:01.31 | liucougar | that should be a bug? |
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| 23:01.52 | ukohsc | is there a good way to reference what new technology is in the current svn? i've just compiled it and instead of playing 'guess what's new' i'd prefer to know what to look out for :) |
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| 23:04.22 | lippel | liucougar: konq shows the chm only when i prepend the url manually with ms-its:// |
| 23:04.41 | lippel | otherwise it ask for an application |
| 23:05.22 | liucougar | lippel: yeah, that's because undefined symbol |
| 23:05.26 | liucougar | should be a bug... |
| 23:06.09 | lippel | the undefined symbol is kdevelop-related, not konq |
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| 23:07.13 | liucougar | lippel: of course |
| 23:07.25 | liucougar | lippel: so probably a kdevelop bug? |
| 23:07.55 | lippel | as konq has the same problem, it is some problem with mimetype detection i think |
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| 23:24.23 | illarion | when installing from source is there a certain order the packages need to be installed in? |
| 23:24.36 | illarion | or does anyone have a link for a howto of installing? |
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| 23:25.10 | Jejem | think kdelibs, kdebase, and after in the order you want :) |
| 23:25.11 | Jejem | lol |
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| 23:27.24 | sharkiezz | hi all |
| 23:27.34 | sharkiezz | i need to know how to get the first time kde theme wizard |
| 23:27.48 | sharkiezz | i need to know where to find it in my computer |
| 23:27.51 | sharkiezz | i can't find it |
| 23:29.05 | liucougar | sharkiezz: kpersonalizer |
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| 23:30.12 | sharkiezz | is that in the start menu? |
| 23:30.20 | sharkiezz | or the "K menu" |
| 23:30.37 | liucougar | settings->desktop setting wizzard |
| 23:31.17 | sharkiezz | thank you liucougar |
| 23:31.24 | sharkiezz | i still couldn't find it though |
| 23:31.25 | liucougar | np |
| 23:31.26 | sharkiezz | i just ran the program |
| 23:31.43 | sharkiezz | i dunno why but fedora core 4 doesn't have the wizard for a fresh install |
| 23:32.03 | sharkiezz | it just loads a bunch of default fedora theme |
| 23:32.19 | liucougar | redhat is not so friendly with KDE, AFAICT |
| 23:32.35 | sharkiezz | oh ok |
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