| 00:01.20 | apow | hello |
| 00:01.20 | apow | how are you? |
| 00:01.20 | apow | the book is on the table. |
| 00:01.20 | apow | :D |
| 00:02.10 | miguel_ | some speck spanish |
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| 00:03.06 | miguel_ | alguien habla español aqui |
| 00:03.06 | apow | miguel_: no miguel, sorry. |
| 00:03.06 | apow | so hablamos ingles aqui |
| 00:03.36 | apow | mi español es terrible |
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| 00:03.59 | miguel_ | como asi terrible de donde eres |
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| 00:21.31 | Underlord | i want to set up win+= to input ≠in to the active program, i have tried to do this through khotkeys but i cant get it to work, is there a better way? |
| 00:23.46 | Underlord | the "Modify..." button found in many keyboard input related places in khotkeys doesn't do anything aswell |
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| 00:27.38 | nikoJ | has anybody been complaining about compile problems of kdelibs/dnsnd on freebsd? |
| 00:27.52 | nikoJ | couldn't find anything relevant on google :( |
| 00:29.08 | Pumqara | probably you should try |
| 00:29.08 | Pumqara | #kde-devel |
| 00:29.08 | Pumqara | ? |
| 00:29.18 | vi4m | anyone tried symphony/mezzo-desktop ? is it usable at all? |
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| 00:32.28 | peppo | I keep forgetting the name of kde's video player |
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| 00:34.00 | nikoJ | kaboodle.. i use kmplayer, which isn't included with KDE |
| 00:34.51 | Underlord | theres kaffeine too |
| 00:35.00 | nikoJ | is it good? |
| 00:35.06 | Underlord | yeah |
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| 00:36.19 | nikoJ | peppo: assuming you have your codecs properlly set up (as explained on the mplayer website), i've never once come across a clip that mplayer/kmplayer couldn't play |
| 00:36.38 | Underlord | its bloated though, i wouldn't be surprised if it sends fax's too |
| 00:37.03 | nikoJ | maybe. but at least it is usable.. which is more than you can say for xine |
| 00:37.21 | Underlord | i mean kaffeine |
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| 00:37.25 | nikoJ | oh |
| 00:38.29 | Underlord | kaffeine is xine powered by default, but supposedly it can switch to different engines like amarok |
| 00:38.59 | nikoJ | that is beyond strange.. amarok doesn't even have a built in player |
| 00:39.14 | Underlord | why's that strange? |
| 00:39.30 | nikoJ | it's strange that you can use amarok to power kaffeine |
| 00:39.31 | peppo | thanks! |
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| 00:39.43 | Underlord | whats the point of them reinventing the wheel when you can pick em up free, in all sorts of shapes and sizes |
| 00:39.58 | Underlord | no, i mean it has many engines like amarok, not that it can use amarok |
| 00:40.04 | nikoJ | oh sorry |
| 00:40.47 | Underlord | god damnit i hate this nick |
| 00:40.58 | Furic | there we go :) |
| 00:41.15 | nikoJ | :) |
| 00:41.24 | miguel_ | SPEAK SPANISH SOME HERE |
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| 00:41.56 | thiago | miguel_: try #kde-es |
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| 00:51.10 | miguel_ | THANK APOW I GOT IT |
| 00:51.21 | HomeRoey | Furic: you some sort of furry aficionado? |
| 00:51.47 | Furic | heh, i was wondering if anyone would pick up on that |
| 00:51.55 | _miguel | FURIC SPEAK SPANISH |
| 00:52.05 | Furic | i dont know how! |
| 00:52.07 | HomeRoey | furrrrrrrrrrrrrranything would be very obvious I would think |
| 00:52.19 | HomeRoey | OR it could be an expression of rage |
| 00:52.20 | HomeRoey | you know, |
| 00:52.26 | HomeRoey | FURIc |
| 00:52.35 | HomeRoey | fury. |
| 00:52.51 | HomeRoey | hmm |
| 00:52.55 | HomeRoey | James Earl Jones just called me |
| 00:53.12 | HomeRoey | I think he was trying to sell something |
| 00:53.41 | oggb4mp3 | Is it just me, or is delete no longer on the konq file browser service menu in 3.4? |
| 00:53.55 | HomeRoey | dunno, my hand sorta splashed the phone back on the base |
| 00:54.00 | HomeRoey | before he finished |
| 00:54.20 | Furic | sometimes delete disapears when im using ftp in konqui as of 3.4 |
| 00:54.26 | HomeRoey | oggb4mp3: I see it just as "trash" |
| 00:54.31 | Furic | usualy after konqui has been open for a few days |
| 00:54.38 | oggb4mp3 | yeah |
| 00:54.46 | oggb4mp3 | in 3.3.2 there was trash and delete |
| 00:54.52 | oggb4mp3 | I want to skip the trash |
| 00:55.17 | HomeRoey | rest assured ogg, |
| 00:55.21 | HomeRoey | KDE engineers are hard at work |
| 00:55.26 | HomeRoey | on trash redirection technology |
| 00:55.35 | oggb4mp3 | it's a regression though |
| 00:55.39 | HomeRoey | they'll have it ready with the next release of KDE |
| 00:55.49 | HomeRoey | oggb4mp3: no, it'll be -better- |
| 00:55.53 | HomeRoey | and interoperable |
| 00:55.53 | oggb4mp3 | unless hiding it was a feature |
| 00:55.55 | HomeRoey | and compatible |
| 00:56.06 | HomeRoey | :) |
| 00:56.13 | HomeRoey | oggb4mp3: I'm just venting about microsoft. |
| 00:57.00 | Furic | i was so happy the day i removed all traces of ms from my household |
| 00:57.20 | HomeRoey | :() |
| 00:57.24 | Furic | the only thing left is the sticky residue where the cd key sticker was my on cabinet |
| 00:57.25 | HomeRoey | it's like wading in mud |
| 00:57.33 | HomeRoey | having to administer garbage MS products. |
| 00:57.42 | HomeRoey | Furic: ah |
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| 01:02.32 | HomeRoey | well just a fan of anthropomorphic art, among other kinds of art like anime/furanime/stuff like that |
| 01:02.40 | Furic | ahh |
| 01:02.44 | HomeRoey | oh |
| 01:02.45 | HomeRoey | wait |
| 01:02.54 | Roey | ahh, much better. |
| 01:03.04 | FilthyMonkey | ooh ah ah |
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| 01:03.40 | Furic | O.o |
| 01:04.11 | Furic | Gah! |
| 01:04.12 | Roey | ok enough silliness |
| 01:04.14 | Roey | haha |
| 01:04.22 | Furic | yeah, this isnt exactly furnet :\ |
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| 01:05.14 | Roey | heya Maksz |
| 01:05.15 | Roey | *Maks |
| 01:05.33 | SadEagle | hi Roey, Furic |
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| 01:38.09 | Tomasu | how do I configure the kdevelop subversion plugin? |
| 01:38.17 | Tomasu | I set the project to use subversion, but theres no options for the server, repo, or anything |
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| 01:46.07 | oneforall | hmm kopete doesn't want to get onto msn but gaim is working |
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| 01:46.56 | MrGrim | oneforall: topic |
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| 01:47.49 | aseigo_h | oneforall: known issue. msn changed the protocol and kopete was using the old way. |
| 01:48.11 | oneforall | thanks never even clicked to look there ugh :) |
| 01:48.44 | oneforall | SVN that that other cvs type ? |
| 01:49.01 | Roey | ya |
| 01:49.35 | oneforall | oh I'll wait don't have it installed and find not much need for it. have no problems with cvs :0 |
| 01:50.27 | oneforall | their a snapshot of it thats fixed? |
| 01:51.04 | Dhraakellian | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23840 |
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| 01:53.47 | oneforall | na I prefer skack.build scripts :0 .configure .... etc tweeking etc |
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| 01:54.19 | df00z | hey |
| 01:54.26 | Dhraakellian | greetings |
| 01:54.31 | Dhraakellian | well, this morning, really |
| 01:54.32 | df00z | is there a place kde will read environment variables from? |
| 01:54.56 | Roey | Dhraakellian: that's in python? |
| 01:54.59 | Roey | kdesvn-build? |
| 01:55.05 | Dhraakellian | not sure |
| 01:55.06 | df00z | I need to set an environment variable that KDM will load when it inits my user |
| 01:55.11 | Dhraakellian | perl, actually, iirc |
| 01:55.18 | df00z | home/.kde/env doesnt seem to work |
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| 02:05.53 | Borg^Queen | Hey people. I just found out I don't have any input list on kmix. I can't record from a source. |
| 02:06.10 | Borg^Queen | The kernel is 2.6.11, on Sarge and KDE 3.4 |
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| 02:06.29 | Borg^Queen | the sound card is an Audigy Platinum |
| 02:06.32 | df00z | Argh! |
| 02:06.37 | df00z | ~/.kde/env isnt working! |
| 02:06.40 | Borg^Queen | ? |
| 02:06.54 | df00z | I'm using KDM, i have a script in ~/.kde/env and it doesnt seem to be working |
| 02:07.18 | Borg^Queen | oh |
| 02:07.32 | Borg^Queen | did you check out bug reports? |
| 02:08.18 | df00z | Nothing found. |
| 02:08.31 | Borg^Queen | rats |
| 02:09.15 | df00z | oh |
| 02:09.16 | df00z | hmm |
| 02:09.17 | _poison | Borg^Queen: and the journey begins ... =) ... I've just tried do change everything to dmix and needed 9hrs to fail ... then I considered buying a soundcard the is supported for hardware mixing (thought mine was ... bur naahh) ... but I still can't find a list of cards that are supported by alsa for hw mixing =P ... Borg^Queen try OSS ... |
| 02:09.23 | df00z | needs .kde/SHARE |
| 02:09.25 | df00z | not .kde/env |
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| 02:09.51 | df00z | brb |
| 02:10.22 | Borg^Queen | _poison: hang on a sec |
| 02:10.40 | Borg^Queen | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix |
| 02:10.53 | Borg^Queen | It lists soundblasters. One more sec |
| 02:11.09 | Borg^Queen | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ |
| 02:11.18 | Borg^Queen | See if you're card is listed |
| 02:11.22 | Borg^Queen | What do you have? |
| 02:11.45 | _poison | ens1371 |
| 02:12.07 | Borg^Queen | Its supported but I don't think that chip has hardware mixing |
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| 02:12.13 | df00z | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104315 no |
| 02:12.20 | df00z | this doesnt seem to work :mad: |
| 02:12.20 | Borg^Queen | Ensonqie usually doesn't |
| 02:12.26 | _poison | Borg^Queen: I think it said so on the package .... =) |
| 02:12.53 | Borg^Queen | Check carefully, it may under Windows via software |
| 02:13.30 | Borg^Queen | df00z: so it doesn't work |
| 02:13.56 | df00z | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15355 |
| 02:14.13 | _poison | Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro <- hw mixing supported, will buy =D |
| 02:15.08 | Borg^Queen | _poison: don't its listed as having problems |
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| 02:16.54 | Borg^Queen | So no one has any idea how to get my inputs to work on Audigy? |
| 02:17.48 | _poison | Borg^Queen: sorry no =( a pal of mine has an audigy, i believe input works for him using oss .... |
| 02:18.03 | oneforall | problems with alsa ? |
| 02:18.13 | _poison | yeah =( |
| 02:18.19 | Borg^Queen | _poison: when you next speak to him can you ask him how he got it working and on what kernel? |
| 02:18.27 | Borg^Queen | oneforall: I think you're correct |
| 02:18.42 | oneforall | or arts |
| 02:18.57 | Borg^Queen | You think arts? |
| 02:19.11 | oneforall | like kde but I don't care for arts :( I disable arts |
| 02:19.16 | Borg^Queen | Well I tried gnome sound recorder and it couldn't lock onto a source either |
| 02:19.38 | Borg^Queen | You think I should log in to gnome and try it? |
| 02:20.11 | Borg^Queen | I guess I should |
| 02:20.54 | _poison | Borg^Queen: 2.4.29 ... |
| 02:21.02 | _poison | I don#t know what module ... |
| 02:21.02 | Borg^Queen | stock kernel |
| 02:21.09 | Borg^Queen | Hmm ok. |
| 02:21.13 | _poison | but a can ask him later today ^^ |
| 02:21.20 | Borg^Queen | 2.6.x seems to have a lot of problems |
| 02:21.27 | oneforall | ah been a long time since I used 2.4.29 . 2.6 here |
| 02:21.33 | Borg^Queen | I also get problems with hotplug |
| 02:21.44 | Borg^Queen | oneforall: and it works fine for you |
| 02:22.08 | Borg^Queen | I mean over all its great, but it sometimes have odd behavior |
| 02:22.16 | oneforall | well I don't have the sound blaster . would be better than this onboard pice of you know what |
| 02:22.17 | oneforall | :) |
| 02:22.21 | Borg^Queen | seems they released it too early |
| 02:22.33 | _poison | I'm still on 2.4.30 ... and don't intend to change too soon =) ... got problems with burning / sound /video on 2.6 ....too much hassle =) |
| 02:22.35 | Borg^Queen | LOL |
| 02:22.35 | oneforall | piece* |
| 02:22.54 | Borg^Queen | _poison: I have no problems there. |
| 02:23.01 | oneforall | oh I've been on 2.6 for o\ver a year now or so |
| 02:23.02 | Borg^Queen | I burn CDs, DVD etc |
| 02:23.54 | oneforall | I do alsa as alsa-drive alsa-lib etc packages (slackware) not built in |
| 02:24.07 | Borg^Queen | a you're a slacker |
| 02:24.20 | _poison | Borg^Queen: the new NVidia drivers crash my gfx subsystem, cdrecord fails to burn .... |
| 02:24.32 | oneforall | just upgraded my boy pc to 2.6.12-c4 andalsa 1.0.9rc3 . |
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| 02:24.43 | oneforall | mine is behind thiers now lol |
| 02:25.22 | oneforall | but I gotta don mine soon I left a stupid module enabled UB and it kinda borks mass-storage (usb) |
| 02:25.29 | Borg^Queen | nvidia drivers has always caused problems. As for cdrecord, what ver are you using? |
| 02:25.43 | df00z | Whats wrong w/ the nvidia drivers? |
| 02:25.43 | Borg^Queen | boy pc? |
| 02:25.49 | oneforall | nvidia are fine for me |
| 02:25.54 | oneforall | boys |
| 02:25.57 | Borg^Queen | So long as you have the right chipset |
| 02:25.58 | oneforall | sons |
| 02:26.01 | Borg^Queen | Oooh |
| 02:26.03 | oneforall | :) |
| 02:26.07 | Borg^Queen | you have a replacement unit |
| 02:26.18 | df00z | Borg^Queen: theres some crazy lockup but where the mouse goes but the screen is locked |
| 02:26.23 | df00z | Everyone is blaming the nvidia drivers |
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| 02:26.31 | oneforall | but I get patches for the kernels I use thou when I need to :0 |
| 02:26.34 | Borg^Queen | Nope just the chipsets |
| 02:26.36 | _poison | Borg^Queen: the one from slack current ... works fine on 2.4 .... no I didn't have probs with the NVidia drivers at all .... until 2.6 and the 2 latest driver revisions ... |
| 02:26.41 | oneforall | for nvidia that is |
| 02:26.48 | Borg^Queen | Believe or not there are two version of the same chipsets |
| 02:26.52 | df00z | uh |
| 02:26.57 | df00z | Whats wrong w/ the nvidia chipset? |
| 02:27.02 | df00z | one has a bugged apic |
| 02:27.09 | Borg^Queen | Nothing so long as you don't have the "Winchip" |
| 02:27.11 | df00z | a workaround was added to the kernel ~ 2.6.7 |
| 02:27.12 | oneforall | me I have the geforce4 mx 440 se |
| 02:27.30 | df00z | Borg^Queen: What is Winchip? |
| 02:27.32 | oneforall | Linux one4all 2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-13 #3 SMP Tue Nov 30 02:33:39 MST 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
| 02:27.40 | Borg^Queen | See, before nvidia saw the light, they producted chipsets specifically for windows. |
| 02:27.49 | oneforall | brb |
| 02:27.52 | df00z | Was this prior to nforce1? |
| 02:27.56 | Borg^Queen | They turned into a horrible deal with the devil and they backed out |
| 02:28.10 | df00z | This was prior to nf1? |
| 02:28.10 | Borg^Queen | df00z: I think a while after |
| 02:28.13 | df00z | Ah |
| 02:28.22 | df00z | I bought my nf2 when they first came out |
| 02:28.31 | Borg^Queen | Riva TNT and TNT2 were the worst |
| 02:28.39 | Borg^Queen | They will work under Linux but NOT with the drivers |
| 02:28.43 | df00z | Oh..you mean video chipsets... |
| 02:28.49 | Borg^Queen | Yes Yes |
| 02:28.49 | df00z | i thought you meant system chipsets :P |
| 02:28.54 | Borg^Queen | Nope |
| 02:28.59 | Borg^Queen | They were never that stupid |
| 02:29.06 | Borg^Queen | just the video cards |
| 02:29.06 | oneforall | you do know you can extract the ncidia drivers and apply patches eh |
| 02:29.29 | Borg^Queen | Yes but the problem isn't the drivers themselves, it the chipset. |
| 02:29.45 | Borg^Queen | If its a winchip you have, your SOOL |
| 02:30.04 | _poison | any suggestions for a new sound card ? everything below 100? is fine for me, if you have a hot tip on a well supported card ... |
| 02:30.20 | _poison | with alsa + hw mixing |
| 02:30.25 | Borg^Queen | The winchip doesn't work with the linux nvidia driver |
| 02:30.29 | df00z | poison: anything. Im on a 5 doller sound blaster live |
| 02:30.38 | df00z | it has hw mixing and works w/ alsa |
| 02:30.39 | Borg^Queen | _poison: yes, hang on ok |
| 02:30.52 | Borg^Queen | $5! |
| 02:30.54 | Borg^Queen | Where? |
| 02:31.05 | _poison | df00z: *g* oh ... I have one tooo ... but hw mixing doesn't work with alsa ... |
| 02:31.07 | df00z | bought from a friend..im sure you can find them on ebay.. |
| 02:31.15 | df00z | poison: sb live? |
| 02:31.18 | df00z | HW mixing works. |
| 02:31.45 | _poison | df00z: yes ....ens1371 chipset ... no hw mixing ... |
| 02:32.07 | Borg^Queen | _poison: so it doesn't have HW mixing? |
| 02:32.21 | df00z | using what module? |
| 02:32.29 | _poison | Borg^Queen: is has ... it's not supported by alsa ... |
| 02:32.38 | Borg^Queen | CRAP |
| 02:32.39 | df00z | Its not a soundblaster live? |
| 02:33.17 | _poison | df00z: well ... they sell it as sound blaster live ... lspci reveals : 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) |
| 02:33.55 | Borg^Queen | that chipset has HW mixing |
| 02:34.10 | df00z | it doesnt work with the emu10k1 driver? |
| 02:34.18 | Borg^Queen | Yes, it should |
| 02:34.22 | Borg^Queen | let me check |
| 02:34.43 | Borg^Queen | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix |
| 02:34.44 | Borg^Queen | Yes |
| 02:35.29 | df00z | Thats what i figure.. |
| 02:36.08 | Borg^Queen | Aye |
| 02:36.41 | df00z | I wonder...is there such a thing as a entirly local xserver/xlib |
| 02:36.55 | Borg^Queen | I don't know |
| 02:37.29 | nikoJ | wow.. borg queen... |
| 02:37.31 | nikoJ | long time no see |
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| 02:37.50 | Borg^Queen | hey nikoJ what's shaking |
| 02:37.55 | nikoJ | same ol |
| 02:37.58 | nikoJ | how have you been? |
| 02:38.15 | Borg^Queen | Good, testing sarge. I think I have on last issue to deal with and I'm ready to go |
| 02:38.38 | nikoJ | cool cool :) |
| 02:38.50 | _poison | gotta go to work ... bye ppl =) |
| 02:39.58 | Borg^Queen | I just can't get the inputs to work on my soundcard |
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| 02:42.08 | Borg^Queen | That's my last obstical |
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| 02:43.17 | Borg^Queen | nikoJ: know anything about Audigys and sound input problems? |
| 02:43.45 | nikoJ | i got it to work on my live 5.1 |
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| 02:44.10 | Borg^Queen | How? |
| 02:44.28 | nikoJ | i had to seriously up the volume in alsamixer |
| 02:44.32 | nikoJ | like a *lot* |
| 02:44.50 | nikoJ | the line input was really quiet so it was quite distorted |
| 02:44.50 | Borg^Queen | What do you mean? my inputs aren't even listed in kmix |
| 02:45.00 | nikoJ | i did it from alsamixer.. not kmix |
| 02:45.02 | Borg^Queen | Did you turn on the pre amp? |
| 02:45.07 | MrGrim | the mixer settings for the emu10k1 chips in are very messed up |
| 02:45.15 | nikoJ | yes |
| 02:45.16 | Borg^Queen | ah |
| 02:45.17 | MrGrim | check alsa.opensrc.org |
| 02:45.24 | MrGrim | it has a lot of good info for the emu10k1 |
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| 02:45.24 | Borg^Queen | Hey MrGrim |
| 02:45.31 | Borg^Queen | Aye |
| 02:45.42 | nikoJ | it worked okay if i was running it through a pedal.. but straight from the amp didnt work well at all |
| 02:45.49 | MrGrim | kmix is useless for alsa :P at least it hardly ever works for me |
| 02:45.52 | nikoJ | it was so quiet that it was very distorted |
| 02:45.52 | MrGrim | always end up using alsamixer |
| 02:45.56 | nikoJ | MrGrim: indeed |
| 02:46.02 | spiderworm | uh.... thanx! |
| 02:46.06 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 02:46.33 | Borg^Queen | the odd thing is everything works. All the sound and controls for all the sources. |
| 02:46.50 | Borg^Queen | I just can't select them as a source for recording from say ReZound |
| 02:48.16 | grepper | evening |
| 02:48.25 | Borg^Queen | hey yoda |
| 02:49.05 | grepper | I use emu10k1 as well |
| 02:49.13 | Borg^Queen | Audigy? |
| 02:49.30 | grepper | sound blaster live |
| 02:49.33 | Borg^Queen | >: |
| 02:49.41 | Borg^Queen | Are your inputs working? |
| 02:49.56 | Borg^Queen | Can you select say your cd and record from it |
| 02:50.08 | Borg^Queen | >: |
| 02:50.56 | grepper | I have too *many* input mixers :P |
| 02:51.19 | Borg^Queen | You must have mine! |
| 02:51.22 | grepper | yes, it appears I can, I haven't tried |
| 02:51.25 | Borg^Queen | Give 'em back |
| 02:51.30 | grepper | heh |
| 02:51.31 | Borg^Queen | Give it a shot |
| 02:51.39 | Borg^Queen | test it for me pleeeeze |
| 02:51.48 | grepper | isn't it illegal ? |
| 02:51.56 | Borg^Queen | Isn't what illegal? |
| 02:52.31 | henriquev | taking a shot? |
| 02:52.31 | grepper | ok, what program am I using to record ? |
| 02:52.41 | Borg^Queen | grepper: test it for me or I swear I will hunt you down and make you watch old Howard Cosel documentaries! |
| 02:52.51 | Borg^Queen | do you have rezound? |
| 02:52.56 | grepper | nope |
| 02:53.02 | Borg^Queen | Hmm kwave? |
| 02:53.28 | grepper | ok, now I do |
| 02:53.33 | Borg^Queen | well for the love of pete get rezound |
| 02:53.47 | Borg^Queen | kwave or rezound, rezound it better |
| 02:53.54 | Borg^Queen | kwave is a RAM hog |
| 02:54.27 | grepper | ok |
| 02:55.01 | grepper | next ? |
| 02:55.21 | Borg^Queen | Set your input source, a mic, or audio cd |
| 02:55.43 | Borg^Queen | them click on the record button. follow the instructions |
| 02:57.16 | grepper | um, where do I set input source ? |
| 02:57.27 | Borg^Queen | Use kmix |
| 02:57.54 | Borg^Queen | there are little green buttons over the selectable input devices. |
| 02:58.01 | Borg^Queen | Mic, cdrom etc |
| 02:58.14 | grepper | that's selected, I mean in rezsound |
| 02:58.29 | Borg^Queen | Oh there should be a little red button |
| 02:58.41 | Borg^Queen | A round one |
| 02:58.57 | Borg^Queen | say ok to the first pop up |
| 02:59.15 | grepper | er, but I have to play the CD with something ? |
| 02:59.20 | Borg^Queen | Yes |
| 02:59.28 | Borg^Queen | You need to have the input source playing |
| 03:00.14 | oneforall | Kopete 0.10.0 this one doesn't work either right ? |
| 03:00.28 | oneforall | there no nightly snapshot of the cvs ? |
| 03:00.33 | oneforall | whoops svn |
| 03:01.55 | Borg^Queen | grepper: any luck? |
| 03:02.14 | mehteenager | hello, how do i make firefox my default browser on mandrake (it was mandrake when i dled it) 10.1 |
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| 03:04.10 | Borg^Queen | mehteenager: in kcontrol |
| 03:04.21 | mehteenager | Borg^Queen: Under what? |
| 03:04.47 | StarScream | hi, not sure what happened but all of a sudden i can't get kopete to authenticate to msn...icq works fine |
| 03:04.57 | StarScream | can anyone help me debug the problem |
| 03:04.59 | Borg^Queen | under KDE components |
| 03:05.10 | mehteenager | Borg^Queen: It's not there, i checked |
| 03:05.27 | Borg^Queen | StarScream: ditch the rc file for kopete and start over again |
| 03:05.35 | StarScream | k |
| 03:05.46 | grepper | no clue what I am supposed to be doing |
| 03:05.47 | Borg^Queen | component chooser isn't there mehteenager ? |
| 03:06.01 | mehteenager | no |
| 03:06.03 | grepper | anyway: phebehouse.dyndns.org/kmix.png <- those are my mixers |
| 03:06.21 | mehteenager | Borg: It's there, but the web browser part isn't. I'm not running 3.3 |
| 03:06.32 | Borg^Queen | grepper: get an audio cd playing right. Then in rezound, click on the little red round button. Hit ok then click on record/resume |
| 03:06.36 | mehteenager | Borg: Apparently, I guess. I'm using mandrake 10.1 |
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| 03:07.18 | Borg^Queen | mehteenager: I found 10.1 to be way to problematic |
| 03:07.36 | mehteenager | :\ |
| 03:07.44 | Borg^Queen | grepper: url not found |
| 03:07.56 | Borg^Queen | mehteenager: debian DEBIAN! |
| 03:08.11 | oneforall | darn why is there no nightly snapshot of this svn at least with cvs you can get a nightly snapshot if you want |
| 03:08.36 | Borg^Queen | stop yelling at us oneforall! Sniff |
| 03:08.43 | mehteenager | Borg: Nah, mandrake has great dual-support for windows xp |
| 03:08.48 | StarScream | Borg^Queen: so just kill the kopeterc? and that should do it? |
| 03:08.49 | oneforall | thats caps lol |
| 03:09.10 | oneforall | so am I missing a links to the snapshot ? |
| 03:09.11 | Borg^Queen | StarScream: you'll have to start over again. make sure it isn't running |
| 03:09.15 | oneforall | link* |
| 03:09.30 | Borg^Queen | mehteenager: xp sux |
| 03:09.39 | StarScream | Borg^Queen: k |
| 03:09.47 | grepper | Borg^Queen: oops, kmix.jpg |
| 03:09.54 | Borg^Queen | you rat |
| 03:10.15 | Borg^Queen | I don't have ANY of that |
| 03:10.21 | mehteenager | Borg: It's for my parents :| |
| 03:10.24 | Borg^Queen | why don't I have any of that! |
| 03:10.30 | mehteenager | i'm out |
| 03:10.32 | Borg^Queen | mehteenager: I hate your parents |
| 03:10.35 | grepper | Borg^Queen: its not a dell is it ? |
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| 03:10.45 | Borg^Queen | Nope Puleeze |
| 03:10.53 | grepper | dude, you could have had a dell |
| 03:10.59 | Borg^Queen | LOL |
| 03:11.20 | Borg^Queen | Is there a nekid person on your desktop grepper ? |
| 03:11.53 | Borg^Queen | Never mind, don't answer that you pervert |
| 03:12.05 | grepper | nope, she's on the floor |
| 03:12.22 | grepper | not really a person, but she thinks she is |
| 03:12.34 | Borg^Queen | Oooh ha ha |
| 03:12.38 | grepper | http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/emu10k1-modules.txt |
| 03:12.46 | grepper | if that 's any help |
| 03:14.04 | Borg^Queen | can I query you to show you what I have? |
| 03:14.11 | Borg^Queen | whoa that didn't come out right |
| 03:14.18 | Borg^Queen | what my lsmod said |
| 03:14.47 | grepper | sure |
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| 03:15.51 | StarScream | Borg^Queen: ok, done that...its still giving me the same thing...keeps asking me to re-enter my password. I just logged in at hotmail.com with the account to check it's right and it worked...gaim also is working |
| 03:16.00 | StarScream | any other idea? |
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| 03:16.30 | Borg^Queen | StarScream: are you using an older version? |
| 03:16.46 | StarScream | Borg^Queen: shouldn't be, i'm running 3.4 |
| 03:16.56 | StarScream | in slackware-current |
| 03:16.59 | Borg^Queen | Hmm odd |
| 03:17.04 | HuntsMan | StarScream: that problem is know |
| 03:17.08 | HuntsMan | it was fixed yesterday |
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| 03:17.26 | HuntsMan | a change in MSN's servers broke Kopete's auth system |
| 03:17.37 | StarScream | HuntsMan: ah... |
| 03:17.38 | HuntsMan | 3.4.1 will include the fix :) |
| 03:17.38 | Borg^Queen | oooh |
| 03:17.42 | StarScream | cool |
| 03:17.43 | StarScream | thanks |
| 03:17.51 | HuntsMan | just check the topic on #kopete |
| 03:18.05 | StarScream | i didn't know kopte had a channel :) |
| 03:18.23 | HuntsMan | now you do :) |
| 03:18.30 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 03:18.33 | Borg^Queen | They're nice people |
| 03:18.33 | StarScream | indeed...thanks |
| 03:18.36 | Borg^Queen | very helpful |
| 03:19.10 | slewrate | heck where did i end up here? |
| 03:19.26 | Borg^Queen | Hey! |
| 03:19.30 | Borg^Queen | How rude |
| 03:20.23 | oneforall | hmm so I guess a simple nightlyshot for this svn is out of the question eh . |
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| 03:20.37 | oneforall | man a good reason to like cvs bettergeez |
| 03:20.41 | Borg^Queen | oneforall: sorry |
| 03:21.43 | Oleg_ | Ok, my secondary IDE master not installed |
| 03:21.51 | Oleg_ | which means I can install a third hard drive as a secondary ide master |
| 03:22.21 | oneforall | well webmaster@wiki.kde.org ok to email asking why or there a better eamil to use ? |
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| 03:29.06 | Borg^Queen | BBT gentlemen. |
| 03:29.09 | Borg^Queen | GN |
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| 03:42.44 | Lewoco | "Would you like Konqueror to save your passwords? Yes, Never for this site, No".... Pressing "Never for this site" is getting tedious. How can I disable password storing in Konqueror? |
| 03:43.04 | kendhome | what the fuck? |
| 03:43.09 | kendhome | i suddenly can't print from konqueror! |
| 03:43.14 | kendhome | or ghostscript |
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| 03:43.32 | kendhome | everyone's bitching about "cupsdoprint" returning an error (though it doesn't tell me what the error is) >:^( |
| 03:43.46 | phxguy | anyone know how to get a screenshot of the KDM Login Screen.. I already have Xnest installed |
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| 03:47.51 | kendhome | shit >:^( |
| 03:47.53 | kendhome | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qt-kde%40lists.debian.org/msg01342.html |
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| 03:59.18 | canllaith | Those instructions for building kopete really are non optimal. |
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| 04:06.13 | euther | kdegraphics breaks in libdjvu -- last attempt was may 06, also today |
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| 04:30.28 | MrGrim | whoa nero has a linux version.. |
| 04:30.47 | canllaith | Someone reviewed it against k3b recently and came out saying k3b was much nicer |
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| 04:31.58 | MrGrim | canllaith: k3b has never managed to properly write a cd for me.. well it writes it.. but always at 6 or 8x, my system slows to a crawl, etc. |
| 04:32.14 | MrGrim | even tho I am using the 2.6 kernels, not using ide-scsi, and w/ dma on |
| 04:32.34 | MrGrim | maybe nero will actually work |
| 04:32.49 | canllaith | Interesting |
| 04:33.12 | canllaith | k3b works flawlessly for me on the one machine I use it on. I have no idea how robust it is though as far as working on lots of different configurations go |
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| 04:49.42 | MrGrim | hmm nero isn't doing much better |
| 04:49.53 | MrGrim | tho it said something k3b hasn't |
| 04:50.01 | MrGrim | "Write speed changed due to disc type." |
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| 04:56.48 | Zxcvb | is it possible for a konqueror plugin to simulate the presence of an activex control? |
| 04:57.14 | MrGrim | no idea |
| 04:57.17 | MrGrim | out of curiosity tho |
| 04:57.17 | MrGrim | why? |
| 04:57.59 | StarScream | Zxcvb: erm...with cedega you can install active X thingo into firefox |
| 04:58.09 | StarScream | apparently..never tried the function out though |
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| 04:58.58 | Zxcvb | for example, MSN video requires some activex control aside from windows media |
| 04:59.12 | Tm_T | :o |
| 04:59.14 | eean | err like what |
| 04:59.25 | Zxcvb | would it be possible for a future version of kmplayer to pretend to be that control through konqueror? |
| 04:59.41 | Zxcvb | presumably some kind of activexcheck control |
| 04:59.50 | Tm_T | Zxcvb: you now talking about MSN IM video? |
| 05:00.01 | Tm_T | Zxcvb: why not kplayer? |
| 05:00.03 | MrGrim | I doubt it |
| 05:00.06 | Tm_T | =) |
| 05:00.08 | eean | sounds silly |
| 05:00.12 | MrGrim | considering he's talking about a web browser |
| 05:00.13 | Zxcvb | no, MSN video |
| 05:00.14 | eean | what functionality is actually missing |
| 05:00.26 | Tm_T | _MSN_ video? |
| 05:00.49 | eean | oh, I just use it for S&M |
| 05:00.53 | eean | :D |
| 05:01.02 | Zxcvb | eean: the site apparently uses it's own custom activex to load windows media player |
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| 05:01.10 | Tm_T | ah |
| 05:01.14 | eean | err, sounds like spyware to me |
| 05:01.16 | Tm_T | now I got it=) |
| 05:01.24 | eean | and no, I don't think thats possible |
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| 05:01.42 | eean | with kmplayer, with crossover office or cedega yes |
| 05:02.33 | Zxcvb | no, I am talking about a native linux/konqueror reimplementation |
| 05:02.43 | eean | I know |
| 05:02.46 | eean | and I just said no |
| 05:02.46 | eean | :) |
| 05:02.51 | Zxcvb | is konqueror's native plugin system flexible enough to handle that |
| 05:03.01 | Zxcvb | if not, what is missing? |
| 05:03.13 | eean | err |
| 05:03.17 | eean | nothing is missing |
| 05:03.22 | eean | if it can already be done |
| 05:03.33 | MrGrim | Zxcvb: 1) it's highly doubtful anyone here knows enough about activex AND konqi's plugin system to answer that question, and 2) are you asking because you intend to write such a plugin? |
| 05:03.33 | eean | activex is Windows code |
| 05:03.43 | eean | so emulation is necesary |
| 05:04.02 | Zxcvb | eean: only if you want to run the real activex control |
| 05:04.27 | MrGrim | eean: as you can see from this line: "[00:00] <Zxcvb> is it possible for a konqueror plugin to simulate the presence of an activex control?" he only wants to trick something into thinking the plugin is there |
| 05:04.30 | MrGrim | trick what tho I do not know |
| 05:04.33 | eean | so you want someone to go out and reimplement all the activex controls? |
| 05:04.50 | Zxcvb | eean: presumably it would be possible to have a native konqueror plugin that says to the website "yes, I am activex control foo and here is the magic numbers you want to prove it" |
| 05:04.53 | MrGrim | s/plugin/control |
| 05:05.05 | eean | Zxcvb: what purpose would this serve |
| 05:05.07 | Zxcvb | eean: wondering if such a reimplementation is possible |
| 05:05.22 | MrGrim | eean: the purpose of letting the website know it is there |
| 05:05.26 | eean | yes, that sounds possible. and its not a reimplementation, its a silly trick. |
| 05:05.34 | eean | MrGrim: but its not there |
| 05:05.39 | Zxcvb | eean: assuming the activex control is just something to check if you have MSIE |
| 05:05.41 | MrGrim | eean: are you trying to be an asshole? |
| 05:05.50 | MrGrim | or is it just natural? |
| 05:05.50 | eean | no |
| 05:06.03 | eean | just I get frustrated when people don't make sense |
| 05:06.10 | MrGrim | he's making plenty of sense |
| 05:06.26 | MrGrim | and Zxcvb I answered your question and asked one of my own |
| 05:06.41 | eean | well, he's come at from the wrong direction. he's worrying about how implementation will be done. |
| 05:06.43 | Zxcvb | eean: if it does the same thing the control does (spit out some magic number back to the site) why wouldn't it be a reimplementation? |
| 05:06.44 | MrGrim | Zxcvb: well ok didn't answer |
| 05:07.10 | eean | Zxcvb: becuase a reimplementation would be an actual rewrite of the activex control...? |
| 05:07.13 | MrGrim | eean: my guess is he wants to run to the kmplayer developers claiming how the intelligent people at #kde said it can be done |
| 05:07.16 | MrGrim | then ask them to do it |
| 05:07.22 | eean | hehe |
| 05:07.41 | Zxcvb | as an example, site foo.com checks for MSIE by downloading a small activex control and taking a md5sum of iexplore.exe |
| 05:07.41 | MrGrim | but as I told Zxcvb already |
| 05:07.48 | MrGrim | I don't think anyone here paying attention knows |
| 05:08.37 | eean | err, foo.com is a spam website. bad example. :) |
| 05:08.46 | MrGrim | course I'm not even sure what msn video is |
| 05:08.55 | Zxcvb | so could a konqueror plugin that says "I am the activex control and the md5sum of iexplore.exe is foo" |
| 05:08.56 | MrGrim | news videos? movie trailors? |
| 05:09.13 | Zxcvb | my guess is that MSN video and NBC video do something similar |
| 05:09.17 | eean | Zxcvb: I dunno if a plugin could |
| 05:09.37 | eean | but its within the realm of possibility |
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| 05:09.47 | MrGrim | Zxcvb: good luck writing it |
| 05:10.25 | eean | I mean, if MSN doesn't want to support non-IE |
| 05:10.33 | eean | they aren't going to |
| 05:10.38 | meth0s | anyone know if a fix is in the works for kitchensync and synching with a zaurus? |
| 05:10.43 | MrGrim | The current version of your browser does not support ActiveX |
| 05:10.43 | MrGrim | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.43 | MrGrim | Windows Media Player 9 not detected. |
| 05:10.44 | MrGrim | Click here to download. |
| 05:10.45 | MrGrim | fun |
| 05:11.03 | MrGrim | how the hell is a public website gonna demand activex support |
| 05:11.08 | MrGrim | especially with the rise of alternative browsers |
| 05:11.09 | MrGrim | morons |
| 05:11.18 | Tm_T | haha |
| 05:11.22 | eean | what site is this? |
| 05:11.26 | MrGrim | www.nbc.com |
| 05:11.32 | MrGrim | check the featured video |
| 05:11.32 | Tm_T | xD |
| 05:11.47 | Tm_T | yankees ;--P |
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| 05:12.25 | Zxcvb | I am guessing they are using some kind of small activex control to check |
| 05:12.32 | eean | see, this is how Zxcvb should have asked the question |
| 05:12.50 | eean | Zxcvb: more likely javascript |
| 05:12.56 | eean | a poor guess :) |
| 05:13.02 | eean | activex you have to approve and such |
| 05:13.18 | eean | they might be using activex to show the movie |
| 05:13.25 | MrGrim | eean: well you don't need activex to use the wmp plugin |
| 05:13.33 | MrGrim | so it must be using activex for smthn |
| 05:13.37 | XGoDxIcEX | hey guys, any good temp monitoring programs for linux (mandriva) |
| 05:13.40 | eean | you do if they use activex instead |
| 05:13.43 | MrGrim | I'd assume the check to see if you have wmp is what it uses it for |
| 05:13.55 | MrGrim | eean: no.. |
| 05:14.01 | MrGrim | that'd be even more moronic |
| 05:14.05 | MrGrim | would they really do that? |
| 05:14.12 | Tm_T | XGoDxIcEX: hmm, like torsmo? |
| 05:14.19 | Zxcvb | kmplayer acts like WMP |
| 05:14.25 | eean | MrGrim: its less moronic to check for activex without using it? |
| 05:14.27 | Zxcvb | ifilm.com works fine |
| 05:14.28 | XGoDxIcEX | not sure, let me check what torsmo is lol |
| 05:14.32 | MrGrim | Zxcvb: here is what you do |
| 05:14.42 | MrGrim | e-mail nbc (microsoft will ignore you and laugh at you) |
| 05:14.49 | MrGrim | and tell them their lame site doesn't work in firefox |
| 05:14.50 | MrGrim | and to fix it |
| 05:15.17 | MrGrim | and get all your friends to do it |
| 05:15.21 | MrGrim | and all of your friends friends |
| 05:15.23 | MrGrim | and better yet |
| 05:15.28 | MrGrim | find the website of some upper management type |
| 05:15.34 | MrGrim | who knows jack shit about the tech |
| 05:15.35 | Zxcvb | get a few dead people to do it too |
| 05:15.35 | XGoDxIcEX | yea like torsmo, too bad though it doesn't have a rpm release on sourceforge |
| 05:15.37 | eean | XGoDxIcEX: ksensors |
| 05:15.54 | MrGrim | cause all he'll care about is "why are people complaining they can't use the website we spent a bakillion dollars on?!?" |
| 05:16.00 | MrGrim | erm |
| 05:16.04 | XGoDxIcEX | oh sweet urpmi has torsmo |
| 05:16.06 | MrGrim | find the E-MAIL of some upper management figure in nbc |
| 05:16.08 | MrGrim | not website wtf |
| 05:16.22 | MrGrim | god |
| 05:16.32 | eean | MrGrim: upper management figure who probably has MS stock :) |
| 05:16.33 | MrGrim | being tired and on a perm nicotine fit since I've started trying to quit |
| 05:16.36 | MrGrim | my typing has gone to hell |
| 05:16.48 | eean | they're all in bed together |
| 05:17.13 | MrGrim | eean: this may come as a shock to you |
| 05:17.19 | MrGrim | but microsoft isn't well liked |
| 05:17.24 | eean | at NBC? |
| 05:17.25 | MrGrim | especially by big money |
| 05:17.30 | eean | *cough* MSNBC *cough* |
| 05:18.50 | MrGrim | eean: heh, there's more than one nbc |
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| 05:19.04 | MrGrim | microsoft seems to own the news part of nbc |
| 05:19.18 | MrGrim | anyways |
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| 05:19.27 | eean | :D |
| 05:19.27 | MrGrim | whatever fine don't |
| 05:19.46 | MrGrim | I couldn't care less about www.nbc.com |
| 05:19.51 | MrGrim | or msn video |
| 05:20.02 | MrGrim | all the video I want is on usenet |
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| 05:43.36 | sparr__ | I use kdm to start my wm of choice. Is there any way a non-root user can make kdm run particular programs when a particular wm is selected? creating a custom ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/sessions/openbox.desktop did not do the trick. |
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| 05:46.59 | Tm_T | sparr__: all wm:s have their own way, like KDE (and most others) have ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| 05:47.28 | sparr__ | Tm_T: no, they dont. openbox says its the DM's job to handle sessions. youre not the first person to tell me its the WM's job :( |
| 05:47.33 | sparr__ | just another day of passing the buck |
| 05:47.39 | Tm_T | eh |
| 05:47.47 | Tm_T | openbox? |
| 05:47.49 | Tm_T | hmm |
| 05:48.18 | Tm_T | atleast fluxbox use the way I mentioned |
| 05:49.09 | sparr__ | 6. How do I make things start when I start Openbox? |
| 05:49.09 | sparr__ | Openbox doesn't have a builtin autostart function since it would be completely redundant. |
| 05:50.07 | Tm_T | hmh |
| 05:53.06 | Tm_T | sparr__: small tip for you, try fluxbox |
| 05:53.11 | sparr__ | i have |
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| 05:53.16 | Tm_T | :) |
| 05:53.29 | Tm_T | or WMaker! |
| 05:53.35 | Tm_T | WindowMaker <3 |
| 05:54.25 | canllaith | sparr__, .xinitrc ? |
| 05:55.17 | slayerbob | hiya canllaith :) |
| 05:55.27 | sparr__ | yeah, im using kdm |
| 05:55.34 | sparr__ | im going to try switching to gdm or xdm |
| 05:55.37 | sparr__ | maybe they can do it |
| 05:55.43 | canllaith | .xsession ? |
| 05:56.51 | sparr__ | .xsession only gets run by kdm... i dont know when, but not when i pick my wm. |
| 05:57.16 | Tm_T | sparr__: well, xdm is lighter than kdm (less everything) and gdm... it's same as kdm afterall |
| 05:57.34 | canllaith | They all have compatibility with xdm features |
| 05:57.37 | canllaith | that's kinda the point |
| 05:58.00 | Tm_T | yup |
| 05:58.01 | sparr__ | well, i need one with this particular feature |
| 05:58.09 | sparr__ | maybe i can find neverheardofitbefore-dm :) |
| 05:58.23 | Tm_T | why you need openbox? |
| 05:58.32 | sparr__ | dont need it, its just what im using right now |
| 05:58.41 | sparr__ | what if i dont want to use a wm at all? |
| 05:58.44 | canllaith | fluxbox blackbox xfce rox KDE gnome they all do it |
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| 05:58.50 | sparr__ | me and my xterm-only session |
| 05:58.53 | canllaith | Then you would use .xinitrc or .xsession etc |
| 05:59.02 | sparr__ | when does kdm run .xsession? |
| 05:59.22 | Tm_T | yesterday |
| 05:59.37 | sparr__ | ahh |
| 05:59.42 | Tm_T | =) |
| 05:59.50 | canllaith | you can have it as part of the session..... |
| 06:00.48 | canllaith | any DM runs xsession I though |
| 06:00.54 | canllaith | thought& |
| 06:00.56 | canllaith | as xdm does |
| 06:01.31 | sparr__ | well |
| 06:01.35 | sparr__ | how do i make kdm run it? |
| 06:01.43 | canllaith | It should already... |
| 06:01.50 | sparr__ | i agree |
| 06:01.52 | sparr__ | it should |
| 06:01.59 | sparr__ | 'should' never accomplished anything though |
| 06:03.01 | sparr__ | very long night :) |
| 06:03.16 | sparr__ | ive asked this question in 6 channels 3 nights in a row now |
| 06:03.19 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.19 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.19 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.19 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.20 | canllaith | Well, perhaps you are making mine feel also as long and that it is time to get up from the computer? |
| 06:03.33 | canllaith | Sorry for the paste twice, apple mouse and keyboard + synergy + linux box is... strange. |
| 06:03.38 | slayerbob | lol |
| 06:03.45 | canllaith | that is KDM's Xsession file |
| 06:03.46 | sparr__ | i dont want to run custom |
| 06:03.49 | sparr__ | i want to run openbox |
| 06:03.52 | canllaith | If you have set up your .xsession correctly |
| 06:03.55 | canllaith | Then it will do as you want |
| 06:03.56 | sparr__ | i use custom for completely different things |
| 06:04.18 | sparr__ | part of my question was "when i pick openbox" |
| 06:04.24 | sparr__ | if i pick custom, then im not picking openbox |
| 06:04.26 | canllaith | So go and edit the open box script |
| 06:04.32 | canllaith | so that it also sources .xsession |
| 06:04.47 | sparr__ | there is no openbox script |
| 06:04.53 | canllaith | use exec /path/to/openbox as the last line of the .xsession |
| 06:04.59 | canllaith | Yes, there is I am looking at it in KDM Xsession |
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| 06:05.11 | sparr__ | youre looking at /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/openbox.desktop |
| 06:05.11 | sparr__ | ? |
| 06:05.12 | slayerbob | hiya sredna :) |
| 06:05.31 | canllaith | No, I am looking at $KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/Xsession |
| 06:05.32 | sredna | Hello |
| 06:05.36 | canllaith | Hello sredna |
| 06:05.51 | sparr__ | someone else had me make a copy of openbox.desktop here: |
| 06:05.58 | sparr__ | ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/sessions/openbox.desktop |
| 06:06.01 | sparr__ | and edit that |
| 06:06.03 | sparr__ | didnt work :( |
| 06:06.13 | sparr__ | kdm seems to not obey the per-user overrides there |
| 06:06.16 | canllaith | Have you tried reading the KDM scripts ? |
| 06:06.16 | sparr__ | erm |
| 06:06.27 | sparr__ | my user doesnt have permission to modify files in $KDEDIR |
| 06:06.38 | canllaith | Then you have no choice but to use custom. |
| 06:06.47 | sparr__ | im already using custom |
| 06:07.35 | grepper | hm, I thought it was $KDEDIR/share/xsessions |
| 06:07.48 | grepper | so wouldn't it be $KDEHOME/share/xsessions/ ? |
| 06:07.59 | canllaith | that would make sense. |
| 06:08.38 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.46 | grepper | which works fine |
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| 06:12.16 | poutine | In konsole, I usually have about 10 tabs open, and when I start it up, I have to get all 10 tabs to root and to a specific directory, I click "send to all sessions" and su to root, which goes fine (but who knows if it's saving my root password somewhere insecure), and I change to the directory I want to change to, then I'll hit control L or or type clear && ls -C, but still sometimes some windows will display it in a single column, it |
| 06:12.16 | poutine | 's semi-random behaviour as some windows it lists it right, and some it doesn't, anyone know how I could fix this? |
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| 06:13.35 | poutine | I guess it could be a term setting problem |
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| 06:21.22 | Bachus9000 | Is there a way to "blacklist" a refresh rate in the display properties in control center? I've got a weird 87 Hz rate that SMAC likes to default to. It wouldn't be a problem except text becomes hard to read and it doesn't reset itself once I exit the game. |
| 06:21.38 | squareff | is there any possibility to change the keyboard layout for kde from the command line? |
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| 06:22.27 | canllaith | The KDE keyboard layout tool is simply a front end for the X command line tool |
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| 06:22.40 | canllaith | If you look under the kcontrol module it lists the command line it runs for the layout |
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| 06:23.54 | squareff | canllaith: thank you. i thought kde had a special way to remember settings on the next startup |
| 06:24.50 | canllaith | It does, storing it in a KDE rc file - but it executes the x command line tool to set them |
| 06:26.55 | squareff | canllaith: is there any way (lower level, other than a kde rc file) to make x11 remember the last setxkbmap setting on next startup? |
| 06:27.44 | canllaith | Yes.. I believe one in .xinitrc .xsession or .Xdefaults |
| 06:27.50 | canllaith | s/one in/one of/ |
| 06:28.18 | canllaith | You can tell it to load your keyboard map in .xinitrc at least if you use startx |
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| 06:31.22 | slayerbob | wb sredna :) |
| 06:38.30 | sredna | Grmbl |
| 06:39.13 | sredna | Sometimes kmail claims that it looks like it is allready running, and if it should start anyway. Every time I say yes, but it never does :\ |
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| 06:47.18 | Adylas | Hello. I'm on kde 3.4. I got a friend that havent the same "Copy Window" that mine .. I got a "list" form copy window (there is colones of info). Him got a little window whit a progress bar and some info. How we can change that ? |
| 06:50.20 | Tm_T | copy window? |
| 06:50.44 | Tm_T | ah |
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| 06:53.39 | hanumani | *newbie here* I've configured KDE to use Firefox as the default system web browser, but sometimes I want to open a page in konqueror so I can test what it will look like in Safari, how can I make it open in konqueror? |
| 06:53.49 | hanumani | If I type it into the konqueror address bar it launches FF |
| 06:54.39 | Tm_T | wtf |
| 06:54.57 | StarScream | thats a bit odd |
| 06:55.04 | Tm_T | no shit =) |
| 06:55.12 | Tm_T | ah, now I see |
| 06:55.44 | Bachus9000 | So no one has any idea how to remove my 87 Hz setting from the Control Center? |
| 06:55.44 | Adylas | Tm_T, Hee, there is a better name ? |
| 06:55.47 | Tm_T | hanumani: you configured _konqueror_ to open html pages in Firefox, right? |
| 06:56.19 | Tm_T | Adylas: dunno |
| 06:56.32 | Adylas | Tm_T, Got an idea where to configure that ? |
| 06:57.08 | Tm_T | Adylas: hmm, I think it has something to do with KDE style |
| 06:57.24 | Adylas | Tm_T, Kay, will look that way |
| 06:57.25 | Tm_T | Adylas: or Konqi settings |
| 06:58.08 | Adylas | Tm_T, Well, I allrdy look at each option in Konqueror |
| 07:01.09 | sredna | Adylas: There is a setting to show multiple downloads in one dialog, and if you have a window with columns, it sounds like you are using kget |
| 07:01.16 | sredna | Adylas: Kget have a setting for integrating with konqueror, which will cause it to take over downloading |
| 07:01.40 | Adylas | sredna, Well, I'm interested to go back .. |
| 07:01.46 | sredna | hanumani: How did you make firefox the default? |
| 07:01.47 | Adylas | sredna, To "KDE thing" |
| 07:02.15 | sredna | Adylas: Check if kget is running, and if so disabe the integration and shut it down |
| 07:03.11 | Adylas | sredna, Well, I just type kget and I got a window called "This is the first time that you have run Kget .." |
| 07:03.25 | sredna | Adylas: |
| 07:03.41 | sredna | Adylas: Could you provide a screenshot of the dialog you have then? |
| 07:03.52 | Adylas | Yeah , sec .. |
| 07:04.02 | sredna | Adylas: My other bid is that the multiple download dialog is enabled, you can check that too |
| 07:04.10 | Adylas | Where ? |
| 07:07.43 | Adylas | http://www.infomtl.qc.ca/stuff/drop1.png |
| 07:08.16 | sredna | Adylas: In the control center, go to KDE Components->File Manager, Behavior tab, and make sure 'Show network operations in single window' is unchecked |
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| 07:09.49 | Adylas | Haa .. you found it |
| 07:09.54 | Adylas | Heee I seen that option .. |
| 07:10.07 | Adylas | I could never know what was doing .. |
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| 07:13.28 | Adylas | sredna, Hee, thanks a lots .. I was trying to find that for age in all KDE menu .. Btw, did you look at my screenshot ? |
| 07:13.38 | sredna | Yes |
| 07:13.51 | Adylas | like it ? hehe |
| 07:14.12 | sredna | Uhm, it looks like KDE - very nice :) |
| 07:14.25 | Adylas | Hah ;-) |
| 07:14.28 | sredna | Easy to read setup |
| 07:14.36 | Adylas | Was talking about 3 screen |
| 07:14.38 | Adylas | s |
| 07:14.55 | sredna | 3 screens? |
| 07:15.21 | Adylas | yeah , I got 3 screen wide .. 2 graphic card and 3 screens |
| 07:15.23 | Tm_T | displays |
| 07:15.29 | Adylas | yeah , excuse me ;-) |
| 07:15.31 | Tm_T | X-Chat! |
| 07:15.35 | Tm_T | yuuuk |
| 07:15.38 | Adylas | Well, I talk french |
| 07:15.48 | Adylas | Hee, what better Tm_T ;-) |
| 07:15.50 | Adylas | ? |
| 07:15.56 | Tm_T | Adylas: irssi =) |
| 07:15.56 | sredna | Ah, right is is wery wide |
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| 07:16.16 | Tm_T | Adylas: and that's not excuse ;) |
| 07:16.17 | sredna | Not bad, I have just on 17" |
| 07:16.38 | Tm_T | Adylas: English is my "third" language |
| 07:16.42 | Adylas | Tm_T, Well, I like console a lots .. but there is no place in my mind for 200 key storke just for IRC ... |
| 07:16.53 | Tm_T | ? |
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| 07:17.33 | Tm_T | Adylas: sorry, I don't understand, would you explain? |
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| 07:18.09 | Adylas | irssi is text based |
| 07:18.14 | Tm_T | so? |
| 07:18.18 | Adylas | And there is a lots of command to know |
| 07:18.22 | Tm_T | so? |
| 07:18.31 | Adylas | Just to talk in IRC .. |
| 07:18.34 | Tm_T | still easier and faster to use than any graphical |
| 07:18.48 | Tm_T | and to talk, you don't need any command ;) |
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| 07:19.05 | Adylas | Yeah .. but I talk on IRC maybe 1% of my time I pass on a comp |
| 07:19.14 | Tm_T | so? |
| 07:19.34 | Adylas | So I prefer lern other thing in console .. (like sed) |
| 07:19.40 | Tm_T | come on, why you need gui? |
| 07:19.54 | Adylas | To make things stupid |
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| 07:20.02 | Tm_T | heh |
| 07:20.04 | Adylas | 2 click , I can talk |
| 07:20.16 | eean | why not have gui |
| 07:20.21 | Tm_T | well, I can irc without those two clicks |
| 07:20.24 | eean | konversation is nice |
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| 07:20.27 | Adylas | whit irssi , i need to type at min 5 letters ;-) |
| 07:20.34 | Tm_T | haha |
| 07:20.54 | Adylas | anyway |
| 07:21.02 | Tm_T | eean: yeah, but it's not as easy and "powerful" as irssi, not to me |
| 07:21.12 | Adylas | Here I got 5 linux box, just one have graphical .. so I'm more console man ;-) |
| 07:21.14 | Tm_T | yeah, you do as you like =) |
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| 07:21.49 | Tm_T | I use konvi sometimes, when I use local client |
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| 07:22.31 | eean | ah ha! you secretly covet konvi. |
| 07:22.43 | Adylas | heheh |
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| 07:23.12 | Tm_T | eean: yes, I tested it twice already =) |
| 07:23.40 | Tm_T | but still I have 4(-5) irssi running atm :p |
| 07:23.48 | eean | you see |
| 07:23.54 | eean | thats silly |
| 07:24.08 | Tm_T | hmm, not really |
| 07:24.24 | Adylas | Btw, lets talk about Xinerama .. heee As I said, I use it on 3 DISPLAY .. ( :-) ) ... And KDE (Kicker) does not sort apps correctly ... (I mean, open stuff are not on the right kicker ..) |
| 07:24.33 | Adylas | There is a bug or miss-config ? |
| 07:24.53 | eean | Adylas: err what do you mean not correctly? |
| 07:24.58 | eean | you have more then one taskbar? |
| 07:25.33 | Adylas | Exemple .. Right now my XCHAT (YES XCHAT) is on my "front" screen .. but the entry is on my right kicker (display) |
| 07:25.45 | Adylas | I got 3 taskbar |
| 07:25.51 | Adylas | on per display |
| 07:25.54 | Adylas | one .. |
| 07:26.25 | eean | why not just have one, whats the point of taskbar if you have to look everyone for the program you want. :) |
| 07:26.40 | Adylas | Hee, because thats what I want ? ;-) |
| 07:27.06 | Adylas | I like when my right apps are on the right kicker .. my left apps are on my left kicker .. |
| 07:27.08 | eean | Adylas: but you do have programs successfully transfer between kickers sometimes? |
| 07:27.23 | Adylas | eean, Yeah .. They do it ... |
| 07:27.47 | Adylas | But its more a mess then other things .. |
| 07:28.27 | Adylas | Right now I got like 20 open things .. (....) and 15 are on my left kicker, all others are at the good place |
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| 07:29.33 | Adylas | And .. Exemple , when I take a window that is not at right place ... I pop it and move it form one screen to an other .. ALL apps are well redistributed on good kicker |
| 07:29.59 | Adylas | I just did it , and now, its niceeee |
| 07:30.21 | eean | sounds awefully like a bug, yes :) |
| 07:30.44 | Adylas | I probably rare that pepole got same setup as mine .. |
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| 07:30.47 | eean | just a question if kicker devs already know about it |
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| 07:31.38 | Adylas | I give some try in kde bug report engine .. but it look like a big mess .. |
| 07:31.50 | Adylas | I didnt find anything .. |
| 07:32.14 | eean | canllaith: didn't I hear you say you did kicker deving? :) |
| 07:33.06 | Adylas | Btw, beside that, (an some strange lag when hiding) I like kicker a lots ;-))) Its a very nice app .. |
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| 07:36.51 | Adylas | Hee, I'm gone. Have to reboot .. (Naaa just because I'm lazzy, there is a lots of service that I need to restart because of an update ... and I want it to be very clean .. to go for an other month of uptime) |
| 07:37.00 | Adylas | Thanks for help/reporting |
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| 07:51.27 | dcnstrct | hi, I want to emerge the new kde 3.4 (with gentoo obviously) but all of the packages are masked. I learned how to unmask a SINGLE package by adding an entry to /etc/portage/package.keywords, but do I really have to do that for every peice of the new kde ? Isn't there a way to unmask all of it at once ?! any help would be appreciated. |
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| 07:54.13 | dcnstrct | n/m found answer on google, sorry to waste everyone's time |
| 07:54.22 | dcnstrct | ;) |
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| 08:12.10 | [GALAXY] | http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot54gf.jpg |
| 08:12.16 | [GALAXY] | hohoho krita svn trunk |
| 08:17.35 | Tm_T | [GALAXY]: and the point is ... |
| 08:18.01 | [GALAXY] | 'expressing my euphorism and sharing it with you all' :) |
| 08:18.10 | Tm_T | hmm |
| 08:18.13 | Tm_T | "ok" |
| 08:18.16 | Tm_T | ;p |
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| 08:31.16 | Tallia1 | hi guys.. someone could tell me where the icon themes are stored in the last kde? |
| 08:32.07 | Tallia1 | i taught that they was in home/user/.kde/share/SOMETHING but nothing........ :( |
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| 08:34.36 | Tm_T | Tallia1: /usr/share/icons or something |
| 08:34.49 | Tallia1 | nope..... |
| 08:35.15 | Tm_T | ... |
| 08:35.41 | Tallia1 | tnx..!! |
| 08:35.44 | Tallia1 | i've found it |
| 08:35.45 | Tm_T | =) |
| 08:35.47 | Tallia1 | :) |
| 08:36.02 | Tm_T | no problemo |
| 08:36.04 | Tallia1 | i didn't read it well |
| 08:36.10 | Tallia1 | ...... tnx again.. |
| 08:36.21 | Tallia1 | ahhh.. another thig.. |
| 08:36.42 | Tallia1 | there's a way to store a png in order that the file is in all the Icon themes!? |
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| 09:23.45 | hunger | My kwalletmanager does no longer find my wallets. The files are still there. Any ideas? |
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| 09:25.43 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 09:25.45 | amorphix | does anyone know of any problem at present with Kopete with regards to logging into MSN? |
| 09:26.01 | nexu | afaik there is a fix in svn |
| 09:26.23 | amorphix | nexu: is that related? |
| 09:26.24 | mustasj | amorphix: what distro? |
| 09:26.33 | amorphix | Debian 2.4 |
| 09:26.46 | nexu | amorphix: i was told to follow this page's instructions: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+SVN |
| 09:26.53 | nexu | amorphix: altho i havent done so yet |
| 09:26.56 | amorphix | I've not been able to login to MSN for the last 24 hrs, keep saying "wrong password" |
| 09:27.03 | nexu | same here |
| 09:27.04 | amorphix | oh thanks |
| 09:27.08 | canllaith_pb | Guys it's in the topic |
| 09:27.33 | canllaith_pb | The fix is in both trunk and branch.. although, the instructions in the topic are slightly non optimal |
| 09:28.05 | amorphix | so basically i need to upgrade my kernel? |
| 09:29.38 | amorphix | do u know what, i think i might just drop kopete and move to Gaim instead |
| 09:29.47 | amorphix | alot easier |
| 09:30.40 | canllaith | Upgrade your kernel? what rubbish are you talking? |
| 09:33.32 | mustasj | amorphix: Gentoo users must upgrade their linux-headers to use the latest and greatest.. I think |
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| 09:34.48 | mustasj | I'm trying the patch on bugs.gentoo.org for my kopete ebuild.. |
| 09:34.57 | nexu | that of gentoo is only if you are running an x86 and not ~x86 system |
| 09:35.31 | amorphix | canllaith: i dont compile software on this system, i use Debian's package manager |
| 09:35.49 | canllaith | amorphix, Then you'll have to wait for debian to bring out bugfixes or as you say, use another IM |
| 09:35.56 | amorphix | I'm running testing and theres no new package yet for Kopete |
| 09:36.01 | canllaith | protocols change, we have no control over it. The fix was out within 24 hours. |
| 09:36.07 | amorphix | ok |
| 09:36.39 | amorphix | does MS not like/approve of Linux community accessing it's MSN network using non-Windows software? |
| 09:36.44 | canllaith | No it does not |
| 09:36.47 | amorphix | oh |
| 09:36.50 | canllaith | It does everything it can to block third party clients |
| 09:36.56 | amorphix | is there no way they can stop us easily? |
| 09:37.03 | canllaith | I believe using a third party client is actually breaking their EULA |
| 09:37.07 | amorphix | i see |
| 09:37.09 | canllaith | Of course, by changing the protocol as often as they can |
| 09:37.14 | amorphix | phew |
| 09:37.24 | amorphix | could MS prosecute us? |
| 09:37.28 | canllaith | IM developers get raw packet dumps and reverse engineer the protocol |
| 09:37.34 | canllaith | Hrm not in my country |
| 09:37.38 | amorphix | very clever, but illegal? |
| 09:37.50 | canllaith | Well... I don't know. I actually think it's MS EULA that's not legal in many countries |
| 09:38.01 | amorphix | whats EULA? |
| 09:38.03 | canllaith | It's certainly not in mine, and the msn messenger EULA is simply ridiculous. |
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| 09:38.14 | canllaith | End user license agreement :) What you are supposed to agree to if you want to use their software. |
| 09:38.14 | amorphix | license? |
| 09:38.17 | canllaith | Yeah |
| 09:38.20 | amorphix | i see |
| 09:38.34 | canllaith | The full terms of most of their licenses they cannot force people to abide by in Au/NZ, they're too strict |
| 09:38.40 | amorphix | thats valid in my country so im a criminal by accessing MSN via Linux eh |
| 09:39.07 | canllaith | I don't think they really care so much. You can be sure if they could prosecute they would have sued Gaim developers by now - how long have they supported msn? Years I'm sure |
| 09:39.09 | amorphix | well maybe not a criminal, but in breach of an agreement |
| 09:39.12 | termo_ | wouldn't it be better for kopete to make an update system for supporting protocols? so patching isn't necesaru? |
| 09:39.26 | canllaith | termo_, how to support it over so many operating systems? |
| 09:39.30 | amorphix | thats a good points |
| 09:39.33 | canllaith | It's up to the distro to sort that out, we only supply source. |
| 09:39.37 | termo_ | script it |
| 09:39.47 | canllaith | (KDE builds on solaris, irix, aix, macosx with fink & native qtmac... ) |
| 09:39.52 | canllaith | various BSD |
| 09:39.56 | amorphix | why not just replace MSN completely and make a Linux version |
| 09:40.03 | canllaith | It's called jabber =p |
| 09:40.07 | amorphix | haha |
| 09:40.12 | amorphix | i wanna try jabber |
| 09:40.16 | canllaith | It's an open protocol no-one can lock you out of if you can convince your windows friends to move to it |
| 09:40.32 | amorphix | that sounds cooler |
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| 09:40.54 | amorphix | can I access Jabber via my Palm III? |
| 09:40.58 | canllaith | It is pretty nice, and signing up for an account is free like msn and kopete/gaim support it so you don't need to download new software. |
| 09:41.10 | canllaith | I have no idea but I think it's very likelly if you google there is a client for palm |
| 09:41.15 | canllaith | likely* |
| 09:41.18 | amorphix | sweet |
| 09:41.29 | amorphix | i will promote the jabber now on my site |
| 09:41.41 | termo_ | Actually there should be an MSN client which automatically creates a jabber account for the MSN messenger users, so a switch to jabber isn't so hard, because everybody is already on it |
| 09:42.02 | canllaith | heh while we're dreaming, there should be a program that lets you download new computers... |
| 09:42.12 | amorphix | hehe |
| 09:42.14 | canllaith | The new OSX has jabber built into iChat |
| 09:42.26 | amorphix | do u guys use Palm OS? |
| 09:42.29 | canllaith | Perhaps we'll see a move to jabber from mac users that might encourage their windows using family and friend to use jabber |
| 09:42.41 | canllaith | Hrm no I don't own a palm :) Just a microsoft pocket pc |
| 09:43.00 | amorphix | i have a WinCE 2.11 PDA as well as a Palm OS 3.1 (PIIIx) |
| 09:43.21 | amorphix | I'm just wondering how easy it is to interface the WinCE device in Linux for syncing |
| 09:43.27 | termo_ | As long as windows users dig the happy screen buzzers (or whatever they are called) they will never changes to a different client |
| 09:43.32 | canllaith | I havne't synced my wince pda |
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| 09:43.36 | amorphix | Palm is well supported but there seems nothing or no more interest for WinCE |
| 09:43.42 | canllaith | but I have connected it via ppp over serial to my linux box |
| 09:43.44 | mustasj | I think you can connect to MSN trough a jabber gateway... (?) |
| 09:44.00 | canllaith | Then I used IP masquerading to give my wince pda an ip address on the network to share files that way |
| 09:44.11 | amorphix | cool |
| 09:44.22 | amorphix | only hard wired tho? what about IR? |
| 09:44.35 | canllaith | Haven't tried yet my previous notebook had no IR |
| 09:44.44 | amorphix | oh |
| 09:44.44 | canllaith | my new (well, second hand) thinkpad does though so I will try it one day |
| 09:45.01 | amorphix | i would be interested to know how u get on, i want to try it too |
| 09:45.12 | canllaith | i would probably write an article on it you'd find on google when I'm done |
| 09:45.27 | amorphix | at the moment I'm using XP on my laptop to get IR syncing using MS ActiveSync |
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| 09:45.45 | canllaith | My wince refuses to sync to win2k :( that's the only windows I have a license for |
| 09:45.52 | amorphix | that sux |
| 09:46.03 | amorphix | Win2k isnt very good an OS any imho |
| 09:46.13 | amorphix | why not upgrade to XP? |
| 09:46.14 | canllaith | I just use the compact flash card and the card reader to share data between it and linux now |
| 09:46.19 | canllaith | Because I have no use or need to use windows |
| 09:46.21 | amorphix | good idea |
| 09:46.27 | canllaith | Every machine in my house runs a unix. |
| 09:46.32 | canllaith | Except the wince pda :) |
| 09:46.35 | amorphix | hehe |
| 09:46.38 | [GALAXY] | what is this windows you speak about ? |
| 09:46.47 | canllaith | there is solaris, irix, osx, and slackware linux (mostly slackware linux) |
| 09:46.52 | amorphix | Windows XP, the latest in the line of Windows |
| 09:47.07 | amorphix | what is Solaris like? I nearly bought a Sun a while back |
| 09:48.14 | canllaith | It's very much like linux really. I haven't used it much. CDE is ok but nowhere near as nice as KDE.. and the latest KDE I've used on solaris is 2x |
| 09:48.21 | amorphix | XP is not bad actually, I have dual boot on my laptop (Debian 2nd) and find I'm using XP more simply because it supports my hardware |
| 09:49.37 | amorphix | I have a Wacom PenPartner graphics tablet, Canon Powershot A60, Logitech QuickCam VC webcam, and the Cassiopeia E-10 WinCE PDA |
| 09:49.38 | Japsu | isn't kde quite well supported on solaris |
| 09:49.45 | amorphix | none of which i can get working under Debian 2.4 |
| 09:50.00 | Japsu | amorphix: some of those might be supported in newer kernels |
| 09:50.09 | amorphix | that would be cool |
| 09:50.28 | amorphix | maybe it's time i gritted my teeth and upgraded the kernel to 2.6 |
| 09:51.04 | amorphix | I'm just worried it might go all pear shaped, but i guess i can still grub to the earlier kernel |
| 09:51.47 | canllaith | I hvae an IBM t22 that was preloaded with caldera linux when it was sold |
| 09:52.16 | amorphix | cool |
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| 09:52.42 | amorphix | I put Debian and KDE on my Compaq Armada M700 without any problem |
| 09:53.26 | amorphix | i also setup Debian+KDE on my new workstation which is a HP Kayak XU800 which was the easiest and fastest Linux installation ive ever done |
| 09:53.56 | amorphix | i just need my hardware to work with it! |
| 09:54.17 | amorphix | why does XP run faster than KDE? |
| 09:54.51 | Japsu | amorphix: because XP is MS and MS rules the world</troll> |
| 09:54.56 | Japsu | ^_^ |
| 09:54.57 | amorphix | hehe |
| 09:55.22 | Tm_T | amorphix: eh, XP run faster than KDE? |
| 09:55.28 | amorphix | yeah |
| 09:55.45 | amorphix | on my Compaq M700 it runs considerably faster |
| 09:55.55 | Tm_T | how you make your KDE that slow =) |
| 09:55.59 | amorphix | KDE seems quite sluggish by comparison for similiar tasks |
| 09:56.28 | amorphix | it's all relative tho, Gimp runs faster and better than Photoshop for example |
| 09:57.06 | Tm_T | I used KDE in pentium2 300MHz 64Mb ram and you can bet that xp won't even start in it |
| 09:57.16 | amorphix | interesting |
| 09:57.29 | Tm_T | and yes, KDE was usable, no problem at all |
| 09:57.37 | amorphix | my Compaq M700 is PIII-600 and 396MB ram |
| 09:58.22 | amorphix | my workstation is a bit sluggish at times too, that's a PIII-700 with 256MB |
| 09:58.54 | amorphix | maybe i need more RAM now |
| 09:59.00 | amorphix | seem to be swapping alot |
| 10:00.35 | Tm_T | eh? |
| 10:00.59 | amorphix | using swap file memory alot |
| 10:01.34 | Tm_T | sounds like your system needs some configuration ;) |
| 10:01.37 | amorphix | i didnt have a swap file when i installed Debian to begin with and the system used to crash alot, even with 512MB RAM |
| 10:01.49 | Tm_T | haha |
| 10:01.52 | amorphix | hehe |
| 10:02.03 | amorphix | i figured 512MB would be sufficient not to need to swap |
| 10:02.06 | Tm_T | I have 1G ram in this pc, and 1,5G swap |
| 10:02.15 | amorphix | phew |
| 10:02.23 | Tm_T | (never used swap really) |
| 10:02.23 | amorphix | i guess i know nothing |
| 10:02.30 | Tm_T | but just to be sure ;) |
| 10:02.34 | amorphix | :) |
| 10:02.52 | amorphix | well if you have the luxury of excess disk space why not |
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| 10:03.31 | amorphix | i'm running an 9.2GB drive here and need to upgrade soon |
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| 10:04.54 | amorphix | brb making green tea and vegamite toast |
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| 10:07.22 | mortalman | Hmm, how does one go about configuring KDM? Isn't there some kind of "kdmconfig" program? |
| 10:07.37 | amorphix | kcontrol? |
| 10:07.52 | mortalman | not installed. Not using KDE, just kdm. |
| 10:07.57 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:08.36 | mortalman | there's a kde_config, but it says it can't be run manualy. |
| 10:09.27 | straw | edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc |
| 10:10.23 | mortalman | Yeah, that is one option I've considered, but not at all familiar with the options. I was looking for a quick and easy, but doesn't look like that's an option. heh |
| 10:11.27 | amorphix | oh well |
| 10:11.34 | straw | it's heavily commented |
| 10:11.51 | mortalman | hmm, looking now. |
| 10:12.50 | amorphix | can someone explain what the purpose is behind the multiple desktops in KDE? is it purely for convenience to move between work areas or for some other reason? |
| 10:14.46 | straw | you've answered yourself :) |
| 10:14.53 | amorphix | thanx |
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| 10:15.40 | amorphix | my next question relates to fonts |
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| 10:15.49 | amorphix | why do fonts look fuzzy in Linux? |
| 10:15.58 | Tm_T | hmm? |
| 10:16.02 | Tm_T | fuzzy? |
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| 10:16.17 | amorphix | not very sharp or clear compared to windows |
| 10:16.54 | amorphix | maybe im imagining it |
| 10:16.55 | Tm_T | eh, you can control how much it is anti-aliased |
| 10:17.02 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:17.15 | Tm_T | kcontrol -> fonts |
| 10:17.21 | amorphix | cool thanx |
| 10:17.25 | Tm_T | =) |
| 10:18.19 | bjv | so what is the kde name for the systray? |
| 10:18.34 | Tm_T | systray |
| 10:18.41 | straw | System Tray |
| 10:18.42 | Tm_T | but systray is in kicker ;) |
| 10:18.48 | bjv | oic |
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| 10:20.36 | amorphix | do u guys use Konqueror for file manager? |
| 10:20.44 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - i do |
| 10:20.48 | [GALAXY] | sure.. |
| 10:20.51 | amorphix | its pretty neat |
| 10:21.12 | amorphix | its just a shame it doesnt render web pages too well |
| 10:21.20 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - is it possible to install all of kdenetwork from svn? im using debian so i'd have to remove kdenetwork to remove kopete to install svn kopete |
| 10:21.21 | straw | neat? it's kick ass |
| 10:21.44 | [GALAXY] | amorphix: konqueror doesnt render anything.. its khtml actually. |
| 10:21.49 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - the gecko engine (firefox) is being ported to konqueror |
| 10:21.50 | amorphix | why dont they make it browser compliant then for rendering CSS |
| 10:21.58 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:22.13 | [GALAXY] | of course people keep using khtml :) |
| 10:22.17 | amorphix | is it possible to change the engine? |
| 10:22.23 | [GALAXY] | i dislike this XUL shit being installed on my system. |
| 10:23.12 | amorphix | one other thing about Konqueror, connections are extremely slow (while first connecting) on SSL server connections..anyone noticed that? |
| 10:23.57 | amorphix | is it possible to run MSIE in KDE? |
| 10:24.03 | bjv | wine? |
| 10:24.10 | amorphix | thanx |
| 10:24.24 | [GALAXY] | you should consider running firefox then |
| 10:24.32 | [GALAXY] | there you dont need to install wine for. |
| 10:24.45 | amorphix | i have Mozilla which i tend to use for proper web developing work |
| 10:25.07 | amorphix | would be nice if Konqueror worked right too tho |
| 10:25.22 | [GALAXY] | aehm again its not konqueror. |
| 10:25.24 | [GALAXY] | its khtml |
| 10:25.39 | amorphix | well whatever, they need to get that rendering correctly eh |
| 10:25.44 | [GALAXY] | its khtml that needs improvement here. |
| 10:25.48 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - i like khtml, i'd use it if it had sessions like opera |
| 10:26.10 | amorphix | Super_Cat_Frog: but dont you find pages render bizarrely sometimes? |
| 10:26.30 | amorphix | it doesnt seem to handle CSS 2.1 right at all |
| 10:26.37 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - all browsers handle some pages badly |
| 10:26.50 | Super_Cat_Frog | even your beloved internet explorer ;) |
| 10:27.01 | amorphix | true |
| 10:27.02 | [GALAXY] | internet explorer doesnt really understand CSS1 correctly. |
| 10:27.04 | [GALAXY] | nor CSS2 |
| 10:27.19 | straw | and many pages are broken themselves |
| 10:27.30 | amorphix | i have problems more with Mozilla from a design point of view strangely |
| 10:27.44 | Super_Cat_Frog | infact, i wrote a css stylesheet once, and it crashed IE 6 on winxp (and SP2) everytime it tried to parse it |
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| 10:27.53 | Aquila_Deus | hi all |
| 10:27.56 | amorphix | it seems to handle spacing and margins strangely |
| 10:28.06 | amorphix | hehe |
| 10:28.33 | Aquila_Deus | does anyone successfully get OOo 2's kde/qt look to work? |
| 10:29.23 | amorphix | damnit my fonts are still fuzzy |
| 10:29.38 | [GALAXY] | amorphix: thats probably a distribution issue then. |
| 10:29.50 | amorphix | actually i think my entire screen is fuzzy |
| 10:29.52 | [GALAXY] | your Xserver not getting DPI correctly and thus rendering fonts incorrectly etc. |
| 10:30.05 | amorphix | its like looking thru a pair of glasses that are slightly out of distance |
| 10:30.15 | amorphix | its ever so slight, but enough to be annoying |
| 10:30.27 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:31.23 | amorphix | i will make a screen shot just incase my eyes are going |
| 10:31.41 | [GALAXY] | yeah make one, i am interested myself. |
| 10:31.58 | [GALAXY] | its probably a misconfigured X server |
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| 10:37.39 | amorphix | http://www.amorphix.net/temp/screenshot.png |
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| 10:38.28 | amorphix | is that fuzzy or do i need glasses |
| 10:38.43 | [GALAXY] | you have a mixture of gnome and kde applications. |
| 10:38.52 | amorphix | yes |
| 10:39.01 | amorphix | is that wrong? |
| 10:39.11 | [GALAXY] | it has to look like that.. they are two different architectures.. |
| 10:39.25 | amorphix | damn |
| 10:39.54 | amorphix | i should remove Gnome eh |
| 10:40.06 | [GALAXY] | http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot10qu.jpg http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot39vf.jpg |
| 10:40.13 | [GALAXY] | thats how my desktop looks like |
| 10:40.39 | amorphix | this looks much more well defined |
| 10:40.46 | amorphix | even on my fuzzy screen :P |
| 10:40.55 | [GALAXY] | http://img241.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot42sc.jpg http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot54gf.jpg |
| 10:41.04 | [GALAXY] | http://img127.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot11yl.png |
| 10:41.10 | [GALAXY] | only to give you some |
| 10:41.26 | [GALAXY] | make sure you run KDE 3.4 |
| 10:41.31 | amorphix | ok |
| 10:41.34 | Super_Cat_Frog | argh! im getting this from top: 9309 bob 25 0 52820 12m 26m R 44.8 1.4 1207:48 kdeinit |
| 10:41.39 | amorphix | i have 3.3 :-/ |
| 10:42.04 | Super_Cat_Frog | for those who cant be bothered looking up top's column,s 44.8% is CPU usage |
| 10:42.42 | amorphix | who is bob? |
| 10:42.42 | Super_Cat_Frog | me |
| 10:42.42 | amorphix | oh |
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| 10:43.14 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.14 | Super_Cat_Frog | im using 3.4 from debian sarge, its hovering around 45% |
| 10:43.14 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.23 | amorphix | thats at the top of mine |
| 10:43.29 | [GALAXY] | oh |
| 10:43.34 | [GALAXY] | and use XOrg and not XFree86 |
| 10:43.54 | amorphix | XOrg is a replacement X server? |
| 10:44.27 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - Xorg is a fork of Xfree, all new distro's use it |
| 10:44.40 | Super_Cat_Frog | its not in debian sarge though, but apparently it will be in debian etch |
| 10:45.02 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:45.36 | amorphix | so its a bad idea to run Gnome and KDE apps together? |
| 10:45.41 | Super_Cat_Frog | amorphix - no |
| 10:45.42 | [GALAXY] | yeah |
| 10:45.50 | [GALAXY] | try concentrating on one desktop |
| 10:45.52 | amorphix | differing opinions heh |
| 10:46.07 | amorphix | but what if you need something Gnome has |
| 10:46.16 | Super_Cat_Frog | well if you want all your apps to look the same, then only use kde apps with kde, and gnome apps with gnome |
| 10:46.43 | Super_Cat_Frog | plus if you really want to cut down on memory usage, you could not use GTK apps so you dont load the GTK toolkit (only use KDE) |
| 10:46.55 | amorphix | cool tip |
| 10:47.07 | Super_Cat_Frog | but there are some GTK apps i cant live without (vmware, and others) |
| 10:47.17 | Super_Cat_Frog | and gnome looks (and feels) like arse, so i dont use it |
| 10:47.22 | amorphix | lol |
| 10:48.11 | amorphix | i have an old Toshiba laptop (Satelite 460CDT Pro) which has one of those old screens (Fastscan Colour?) and that looks better with Gnome than KDE |
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| 10:49.05 | Super_Cat_Frog | if you like how something looks is just user perception, i personally think gnome looks awful but i think kde looks great. others think kde looks too 'teletubby' like |
| 10:49.15 | amorphix | actually those old screens arent bad at all, they have a kind of paper look to them, duller and less bright than TFT easier on the eyes |
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| 10:49.35 | amorphix | i know what you mean |
| 10:49.50 | amorphix | i prefer KDE on my workstation and newer laptop and think Gnome looks dated |
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| 10:50.37 | amorphix | KDE looks better on my workstation than Windows XP, but not on my M700 laptop |
| 10:51.13 | amorphix | XP is way more defined and sharper with better graphics than KDE on high definition laptop LCD |
| 10:52.38 | amorphix | XFree86 uses 23% of memory and on average 1-2% of CPU |
| 10:52.49 | amorphix | not bad |
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| 10:55.13 | mike-M | gooooood morning |
| 10:55.28 | mike-M | actually it is lunch time by me :) |
| 10:56.36 | amorphix | i would be condemned as a troll in other places for coming out with such remarks |
| 10:56.44 | amorphix | you guys are tolerant, thats cool |
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| 11:40.18 | yahalom | ok. i installed kubuntu on a hard disk and the moved it to a celeron 500 mhz 65 mb ram. the pc i used to install on the hard drive was amd athlon xp 2000+ 512 MB ram. I got kernel panic, does that mean the kernel is wrong? i used a 386 one. |
| 11:41.14 | yahalom | (forget he kubuntu part, am wondering if this is kde related) |
| 11:42.20 | Tm_T | eh |
| 11:42.20 | [GALAXY] | yes it can most likely be a kernel issue. |
| 11:42.27 | [GALAXY] | can be everything actually.. bad ram etc.. |
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| 11:43.09 | yahalom | [GALAXY], it worked when i installed it on the celeron itself. only when i installed it with my pc did it give me kernel panic. also metioned cant find konsole |
| 11:43.21 | Agiofws | how do you set kde not to restore the previous kde session ? |
| 11:43.41 | Tm_T | Agiofws: kcontrol -> |
| 11:43.51 | yahalom | Agiofws, control center, kde components i think, sessions. |
| 11:44.35 | yahalom | oh well. i too the box with me now. i'll try it again. |
| 11:44.54 | Agiofws | yahalom, thanks |
| 11:45.22 | yahalom | Agiofws, ;) |
| 11:45.45 | Agiofws | i've kdebase,kdelibs,kdeeducation installed what else do you think i should install? |
| 11:45.49 | [GALAXY] | time for a frape |
| 11:45.54 | Blissex | yahalom: which kernel panic? |
| 11:46.26 | Agiofws | [GALAXY], you drink frape? |
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| 11:47.01 | [GALAXY] | Agiofws: kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdevelop kdewebdev koffice kdeextragear |
| 11:47.07 | [GALAXY] | Agiofws: yes of course. |
| 11:47.36 | Agiofws | what does kdegraphocs provide gimp is already installed |
| 11:47.53 | [GALAXY] | stuff like kpdf, kgv, snapshot etc. |
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| 11:48.39 | Agiofws | [GALAXY], anything like somehing that connects your modile via infrared in kde? |
| 11:48.56 | [GALAXY] | yeah kdenetwork |
| 11:49.20 | [GALAXY] | there is a tool name kandy.. |
| 11:49.26 | [GALAXY] | maybe you have it installed already |
| 11:49.28 | Agiofws | surely you have ti have IrDa stack compiled in ? |
| 11:49.33 | sredna | List #linux-live |
| 11:50.21 | yahalom | Blissex, on boot up |
| 11:50.31 | yahalom | Blissex, kernel panic. kernel trying to kill init. |
| 11:50.54 | yahalom | Blissex, konsole not found. |
| 11:50.58 | Blissex | yahalom: not clear enough... |
| 11:51.38 | Blissex | yahalom: when you say «on a hard disk and the moved it» what did you move? The disk itself or its contents? |
| 11:51.56 | yahalom | Blissex, disk itself |
| 11:52.13 | yahalom | Blissex, i installed kubuntu on this machine and moved the hard disk to another machine. |
| 11:52.31 | Blissex | yahalom: have you tried booting in single user mode? |
| 11:53.06 | yahalom | Blissex, how? |
| 11:53.10 | Blissex | yahalom: when you write «konsole not found» is that «konsole» or just «console» |
| 11:53.14 | Agiofws | yahalom, whats the prob? |
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| 11:53.31 | Blissex | yahalom: adding "single" to the boot arguments. |
| 11:54.13 | Blissex | yahalom: also, has your disk got a swap partition? it could be the system runs out of memory with 64MB. |
| 11:54.21 | yahalom | Blissex, it could be console. |
| 11:54.29 | yahalom | Blissex, i think it was console. |
| 11:54.41 | yahalom | Blissex, 800 mb |
| 11:54.42 | Blissex | yahalom: so that's before the switch to X mode... |
| 11:54.51 | yahalom | Blissex, it never goes to x modew |
| 11:55.07 | yahalom | Blissex, maybe celeron uses kernel-686? |
| 11:55.09 | Blissex | yahalom: Are you using LILO? |
| 11:55.15 | yahalom | Blissex, nope |
| 11:55.25 | yahalom | Blissex, grub starts |
| 11:55.46 | yahalom | Blissex, then i says starting ubuntu...and then kernel panic, and it stays there |
| 11:56.04 | Blissex | yahalom: but _which_ kernel panic? |
| 11:56.52 | Agiofws | yahalom, maybe the kernel is compile fir another type of proceser? |
| 11:57.02 | yahalom | Blissex, man i never saw that before this time :\ |
| 11:57.04 | Agiofws | yahalom, maybe the kernel is compiled for another type of proceser? |
| 11:57.08 | Blissex | yahalom: if it cannot find the console it could be that the ''initrd'' is not found or is not good, lacking the right '/dev/' entries. Or the main root '/dev/' is. But if it worked on one PC it should work. |
| 11:57.25 | Blissex | yahalom: but you say that the kernel is a '-386' kernel that should run on anything. |
| 11:57.32 | yahalom | i used a 386 kernel, maybe it wants a 686. i dont know. |
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| 11:57.43 | yahalom | Blissex, right thats what i though. |
| 11:57.57 | bjv | kde ppl? ive a question |
| 11:58.06 | yahalom | Blissex, also know: when i installed kubuntu on the other system and then moved the hard disk to this one, i got the same issue. |
| 11:58.28 | bjv | what is the name of the gui configuration tool, for gnome apps? |
| 11:58.51 | Agiofws | yahalom, are you sure grub has the right root device? |
| 11:58.54 | Blissex | yahalom: thats very odd. It could be a different disk geometry, but AFAIK that only matters to LILO, that's why I was asking. |
| 11:58.59 | bjv | because they look very much ugly next to my nice K desktop environment. |
| 11:59.18 | Blissex | bjv: it is in the control panel under ''Appearance''. |
| 11:59.25 | yahalom | ummm... |
| 11:59.55 | yahalom | i dont know. i didnt change any settings. i wrapped up the hard disk nice and safely. and took it there. |
| 12:00.03 | Blissex | yahalom: or it could be a different root, as Agiofws suggests. |
| 12:00.10 | yahalom | maybe the swap is too big? |
| 12:00.21 | bjv | thats what im asking |
| 12:00.25 | yahalom | Blissex, i dont see why the root would be different |
| 12:00.30 | bjv | how do i run the control panel |
| 12:00.35 | bjv | what is its name? |
| 12:00.37 | Agiofws | yahalom, slave master |
| 12:00.44 | Agiofws | drive |
| 12:00.54 | Agiofws | whats your grub line ? |
| 12:00.58 | Agiofws | boot up line ? |
| 12:01.11 | Blissex | bjv: you run it from the K menu usually. |
| 12:01.19 | yahalom | Agiofws, theres one hard drive here and one there, so i assume its master. even though i didnt check it. |
| 12:01.26 | bjv | the gnome configurator is in the K menu? |
| 12:01.29 | Blissex | bjv: or from the kicker itsel. The icon looks like a wrench |
| 12:01.30 | bjv | i dont see it.. |
| 12:01.33 | yahalom | Agiofws, no idea. grub starts up with np. |
| 12:01.54 | Blissex | bjv: the control panel is usually either in the K menu or the kicker bar... |
| 12:02.10 | yahalom | whatever....i have the box here now. i'll install it in its native environment. i'm just curious what this error is. |
| 12:02.24 | Agiofws | isn't ther a line in grub like kernel (hd0,1) root=/dev/hda1 exetra exetra? |
| 12:02.32 | Blissex | bjv: the control you are looking for is called "Appearance & Themes:GTK Styles and Fonts" |
| 12:02.45 | yahalom | Agiofws, i dont remember :\ |
| 12:02.49 | bjv | ok, thats a start |
| 12:03.11 | Agiofws | yahalom, to boot linux GRUB is essential... |
| 12:04.12 | yahalom | Agiofws, thats what am saying though. grub works. it says booting ubuntu all fine. then after like 20 secs, it says starting kernel...(or something similar) and then kernel panic. kernel trying to kill init. |
| 12:04.42 | Agiofws | dou you get a dmesg at all? |
| 12:04.49 | Agiofws | in boot up? |
| 12:06.03 | bjv | well crap. looks like that menu item *should* be there. |
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| 12:06.34 | yahalom | Agiofws, i dont know. |
| 12:06.42 | yahalom | Agiofws, i'll have to look at it |
| 12:06.56 | yahalom | Agiofws, i'll write it down, and next time i'm on i'll share it :) |
| 12:07.26 | Agiofws | no yahalom when it starts to boot do you get anymessages on the screen ? |
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| 12:07.36 | Agiofws | or is it just blank |
| 12:07.47 | Agiofws | yahalom, ask in linux or linuxhelp though |
| 12:07.50 | Agiofws | not in kde |
| 12:07.50 | yahalom | Agiofws, Blissex , [GALAXY] thanx |
| 12:08.08 | yahalom | Agiofws, man i never even come near to kde |
| 12:08.19 | yahalom | Agiofws, its all in the few secs of startup |
| 12:08.28 | yahalom | Agiofws, i dont even log in to my distro |
| 12:08.33 | Agiofws | you said 20 secs ? |
| 12:08.42 | yahalom | Agiofws, 20-30 |
| 12:08.42 | Agiofws | yahalom, yes i know.. |
| 12:08.53 | Agiofws | after grub screen |
| 12:09.00 | yahalom | Agiofws, yes after grub |
| 12:09.08 | Agiofws | when it boots do you get any messages n screen? |
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| 12:11.40 | [GALAXY] | hmm fuck where is the shaker for my frape.. |
| 12:14.18 | yahalom | [GALAXY], i saw it somewhere |
| 12:14.35 | yahalom | Agiofws, i dont know man. let me look. i'll come back later. |
| 12:15.06 | yahalom | Agiofws, i knew it er malaka. ur a greek. ;) |
| 12:15.55 | Agiofws | how did you ? |
| 12:16.00 | Agiofws | whats the malaka for? |
| 12:16.09 | yahalom | Agiofws, whois. i grew up there. |
| 12:16.16 | yahalom | Agiofws, not to offend u ;) |
| 12:16.45 | Agiofws | aa |
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| 12:16.46 | Agiofws | and now you are in? |
| 12:16.47 | yahalom | Agiofws, Israel |
| 12:16.54 | Agiofws | aha ll |
| 12:16.57 | Agiofws | kk |
| 12:17.18 | yahalom | Agiofws, u know hydra? |
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| 12:17.40 | yahalom | Agiofws, after poros. |
| 12:17.42 | Agiofws | yeah never been there though |
| 12:17.49 | Agiofws | kk |
| 12:17.55 | yahalom | Agiofws, thats where i grew up |
| 12:18.08 | Agiofws | good |
| 12:18.15 | yahalom | Agiofws, ok ;) bye |
| 12:18.21 | maelcum | Hi channel! I have a little problem with kpdf/kprinter/cups: I can't resize a PDF to fit on a page. |
| 12:19.25 | maelcum | I want to print an A4 PDF on an A4 page but my printer (LJ4) has "hardware margins"... |
| 12:21.51 | [GALAXY] | replace printer, zoom, print. |
| 12:23.40 | Agiofws | http://laptop.media.mit.edu/ |
| 12:25.07 | maelcum | [Galaxy]: sorry, that was too concise for me to understand, would you explain what you meant please? |
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| 12:26.38 | LokeDK | I'm having some issues with konqueror.. everytime i try to open a website it says An error occurred while loading www.someaddress.com Unknown host someaddress.com .. and the websites i want to visit works in mozilla and mozilla firefox |
| 12:27.38 | LokeDK | and other browsers |
| 12:27.39 | [GALAXY] | LokeDK: do you have /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 12:27.43 | LokeDK | yes |
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| 12:28.21 | [GALAXY] | looks like your kde is missing NS resolving capabilities. |
| 12:28.53 | [GALAXY] | i heard some people talking about ip6 vs ip4 issues not long ago but i dont know much about its relationship with kde so i am no help here.. |
| 12:28.58 | [GALAXY] | is kde compiled form sources ? |
| 12:29.09 | LokeDK | no.. I got it with SuSE 9.3 pro |
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| 12:29.23 | Jejem | LokeDK: don't have this problem :) |
| 12:29.26 | LokeDK | I'm using wireless network |
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| 12:31.38 | LokeDK | http://pastebin.com/286926 this is my /etc/resolv.conf .. if that does a different |
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| 12:34.06 | LokeDK | Would be great if someone has a solution on the problem.. because i really need konqueror |
| 12:34.43 | reagleBRKLN | any kate users here? |
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| 12:36.20 | Blissex | LokeDK: thats has nothing to do with Konqueror. The DHCP server is giving you the address of a DNS server. You have to make sure it is the right address. |
| 12:36.56 | Blissex | LokeDK: from the number it looks like it is the address of your cable/ADSL gateway. If so, ensure it is properly configured as a DNS proxy, |
| 12:37.21 | Blissex | reagleBRKLN: consider reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html first |
| 12:37.57 | Blissex | maelcum: replace the printer with one with smaller margins :-) |
| 12:38.25 | reagleBRKLN | oops, ok. are there kate shortcuts for cut/yank line, or move line up down ? |
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| 12:39.00 | Blissex | reagleBRKLN: well, cut/yank are KDE standard, taken from MS, taken from IBM's SAA |
| 12:39.01 | LokeDK | Blissex, it's my router |
| 12:39.17 | Blissex | LokeDK: so configure it to act as a DNS proxy... |
| 12:39.26 | LokeDK | Do you know how to do that? |
| 12:39.33 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: We have a killine, but it does not copy the line |
| 12:39.39 | reagleBRKLN | Blisses: you mean cut/paste? different the cut/yank (e.g., in emacs) |
| 12:39.44 | maelcum | Blissex: Hmm. I really think kpdf is at fault. If I set the margins in kpdf's page setup, my settings are ignored. Next time I enter the dialog, the margins are set to "user defined - 0 mm" again ;( |
| 12:40.13 | maelcum | And then, there is no "fit to page" checkbox anyway... |
| 12:40.17 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: But you can select text and drag it |
| 12:40.17 | Blissex | LokeDK: we are sorry, but our telepathic/clairvoyant customer support personnel are busy on other lines. please hold :-) |
| 12:40.25 | reagleBRKLN | sredna, yes i use kill line, but really which it put it in a buffer. the only way for me to move a line is to cut and paste it, which is awkward, and then usually has the wrong indentation etc. |
| 12:40.39 | reagleBRKLN | s/which/wish/ |
| 12:40.53 | LokeDK | Blissex, hmm okay |
| 12:40.55 | reagleBRKLN | i would love if i could bop a line up or down |
| 12:41.02 | reagleBRKLN | from keyboard |
| 12:41.05 | Blissex | reagleBRKLN: if it is not in 'Settings>Configure Shortcuts' it is not there :-) |
| 12:41.23 | sredna | I can't see how cut/paste is different from any other way of moving a line |
| 12:41.31 | sredna | It would do the exact same thing |
| 12:42.08 | reagleBRKLN | which other way: move line or kill yank? |
| 12:42.32 | sredna | The fastest way to do that is 'c-home,c-home,down,c-x,up,c-v' which will move the current line one place upwards |
| 12:42.44 | Blissex | reagleBRKLN: is what you really want something like the ''line drag and drop'' of MS Word and similar? |
| 12:43.03 | reagleBRKLN | Blisses: NO. Like emacs. sredna: exactly, yuck. |
| 12:43.05 | sredna | Uhm, shift-down the decond time of course |
| 12:43.29 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: If you want emacs use it. If you want changes to kate, be polite. |
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| 12:43.55 | Court-Jus | hm hello :) |
| 12:44.02 | reagleBRKLN | i am polite :) it appears kate can't do it, will file a wish list. |
| 12:44.06 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: And I have a note somewhere that I should make killine optinoally copy the line first |
| 12:44.34 | reagleBRKLN | uh on, error at bugs.kde.org |
| 12:44.56 | reagleBRKLN | man, i can't type this morning |
| 12:45.13 | Court-Jus | i have a strange problem with Kontact and Kpilot. When I do a hotsync, some records are deleted on Kontact and/or the handheld. I've tried a full reset of the handheld and now when I hotsync, some records are synced from the PC to the handheld and other are not...... |
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| 12:45.41 | reagleBRKLN | kpilot can be like voodoo |
| 12:45.51 | amorphix | hi guys, im back to bug u some more |
| 12:46.02 | Court-Jus | reagleBRKLN: yeah I see that |
| 12:46.24 | Court-Jus | reagleBRKLN: do you think using the handheld both at home and at work can be problematic ? |
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| 12:46.47 | reagleBRKLN | i have that problem, and i just use it on one computer |
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| 12:46.59 | Buggaboo | hi guys |
| 12:47.26 | Buggaboo | where can I set the keyboard shortcut for the k menu? (what's the default?) |
| 12:47.49 | amorphix | how many of u here are using laptops? |
| 12:48.09 | reagleBRKLN | Court-Jus: the palm is authoratitive/normative: so if things start gettings to wacky, i back it up, then delete KDE files and have Palm write to PC |
| 12:48.42 | Court-Jus | ok |
| 12:48.45 | amorphix | reagleBRKLN: A Palm user under Linux? |
| 12:48.48 | reagleBRKLN | doing things on the desktop, like setting a time zone, or an even that spans a day and repeats etc., "you are entering a world of pain" |
| 12:48.53 | Court-Jus | and how do you delete every kde record in kontact ?? |
| 12:49.03 | reagleBRKLN | amorphix: yes |
| 12:49.16 | Court-Jus | amorphix: two palm users ;) |
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| 12:49.19 | amorphix | reagleBRKLN: cool, I just got a Palm IIIx and set that up in Linux too |
| 12:49.28 | Court-Jus | three :) |
| 12:49.30 | amorphix | neat |
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| 12:49.52 | amorphix | I must say i prefer my Cassiopeia E-15 (WinCE 2.11) PDA over Palm tho |
| 12:50.02 | reagleBRKLN | i look for .kde/{share,config}/{korganizer,knotes,kaddressbook} etc. |
| 12:50.18 | reagleBRKLN | morphix: does WinCE sync with KPilot? |
| 12:50.39 | Court-Jus | reagleBRKLN: ok, i'll try that... |
| 12:50.43 | amorphix | no :-( unfortunately I havent been able to get WinCE to sync with Linux in any shape or form |
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| 12:50.52 | reagleBRKLN | oh, and kpilotrc etc. |
| 12:51.04 | amorphix | i must find a way |
| 12:51.14 | amorphix | else I will have to use my Palm IIIx |
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| 12:54.57 | reagleBRKLN | sredna: stupid question, sometimes kate is a little slow on startup, and it appears to draw a window, then resize it and move it to a new position? is that what its doing? |
| 12:56.50 | debianer | ´ó¼ÒºÃ~ |
| 12:57.34 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: It's the KMDI window that is misbehaved. We stopped using it for kde 3.5 actually, because it flickers so much |
| 12:57.45 | reagleBRKLN | great! |
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| 12:58.07 | sredna | Let me take a shot of the current kate for you |
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| 12:59.38 | reagleBRKLN | note to self: another wish list: using the keys to comment a line places the '#' flush left, which I like but interrupts the code folding of its parent code |
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| 13:01.30 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: http://83.73.143.23:8002/kate20050520.png |
| 13:02.13 | sredna | reagleBRKLN: Python? That is fixed or going to be fixed |
| 13:02.23 | reagleBRKLN | yep! |
| 13:02.33 | reagleBRKLN | (nice shot) |
| 13:02.58 | sredna | Well, as you can see we have made it possible to stack toolviews again |
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| 13:04.01 | joga0 | hello everybody |
| 13:04.31 | sredna | G'day |
| 13:04.50 | joga0 | i have a problem whit my Linux , is someone her to give me a help ? |
| 13:05.24 | Blissex | joga0: not a very useful questions, try reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk and rephrasing it... |
| 13:05.55 | Blissex | joga0: not a very useful questions, try reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html and rephrasing it... |
| 13:06.07 | joga0 | I made apt-get upgrade and update in my Conectiva 10 |
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| 13:06.33 | Blissex | joga0: continue... |
| 13:07.04 | joga0 | and now somehow it´s inposibel to start kDE interface |
| 13:07.09 | Blissex | joga0: BTW, I guess there must be Conectiva specific channels in brazilian portoguese... |
| 13:07.18 | Blissex | joga0: in what way is it impossible? |
| 13:07.27 | Blissex | joga0: what actuallyn happens? |
| 13:08.34 | joga0 | when i login in grafic interface , it just opens window whit background and nothing els |
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| 13:09.44 | Blissex | joga0: if you run 'startkde' in that window does that start KDE? |
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| 13:10.33 | joga0 | that i have not tryd , |
| 13:10.55 | joga0 | is it posibel that there is missing some packeges ? |
| 13:11.55 | joga0 | at the moment im in Windows , but i´m going to write every help down and going to try it after |
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| 13:12.51 | joga0 | so please give me some posible tip´s to try theme out |
| 13:14.57 | joga0 | im going to try that tip startkde and come back if it doesnt work |
| 13:15.08 | joga0 | thank´s |
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| 13:25.25 | Court-Jus | reagleBRKLN: thanks for ur help, i'm leaving now |
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| 13:45.38 | WolfShadow | don't know if anyone can help me with this, but I'm messing around with knoppix on kde 3.3.2 and I'm trying to work out how to change the graphic on the K start bar, if anyone has any suggestion as to what I should be looking to change, I would appreciate the help. |
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| 13:52.09 | WolfShadow | nm, found it, *Grins* |
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| 14:06.20 | reagleBRKLN | is there a pref such that links from my web site (and only that one) with file:// are automatically trusted instead of being asked konqueror "This untrusted page links to" |
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| 14:21.22 | _thomas | o |
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| 14:26.04 | REAL | how can erase konqueror tab history? |
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| 14:27.21 | Beineri | sredna: http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/modules/ :-) |
| 14:27.35 | sredna | Hi Beineri |
| 14:27.59 | REAL | how can erase konqueror tab history? |
| 14:28.01 | Beineri | sredna: created modules for the top 17 languages now :-) |
| 14:28.07 | sredna | I have problems getting the modified iso to boot, it seems something goes wrong when running create_bootiso |
| 14:28.42 | Beineri | sredna: works fine here (run under SUSE though not from Klax), tested it today. |
| 14:29.16 | sredna | Beineri: I can insert my modules while in klax, and I have added them to a copy of the iso, but it can't boot |
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| 14:29.33 | Beineri | sredna: strange |
| 14:29.34 | sredna | It seems that it fails to create the root filesystem correctly |
| 14:30.00 | Beineri | sredna: do you have MS Windows? did you try with the Windows tool? :-) |
| 14:30.23 | Beineri | sredna: any failure message when mkisofs runs? |
| 14:30.29 | sredna | Beineri: Apart from that, my goal is to create a iso that will boot to danish, somethign that I can give to non-geek people and say - boot it and wait, and you will be in danish KDE |
| 14:30.45 | sredna | Beineri: I dont' have windows |
| 14:30.48 | Blissex | REAL: perhaps 'Clear history' in the 'History sidebar' control panel? |
| 14:30.56 | sredna | Beineri: And there were no error messages |
| 14:31.15 | REAL | Blissex: it dosent clear it from there... i already try that |
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| 14:31.52 | sredna | After 'creating fstab' I get "mkdir: Cannot create directory `/union/tmp': No such file or directory" |
| 14:32.09 | sredna | Beineri: And I have no idea why so far |
| 14:32.40 | Beineri | sredna: defaulting to a Danish KDE should be no problem, have to try creating a module which simply overwrites the kdeglobals files of root and guest users. Making everything Danish (including console locales) is a bit more complicated (and likely includes remastering the compressed image part). |
| 14:33.32 | sredna | I so far set the LC_ALL variable to da_DK |
| 14:34.14 | sredna | And I also added a danish aspell dictionary and a link aspell-0.60 -> aspell in /usr/lib |
| 14:34.38 | Blissex | REAL: then you have to edit by hand the two Konqueror files in '$KDEHOME/share/config/', 'konquerorc' and 'konq_history' |
| 14:34.40 | sredna | But I have no idea if it will work, since I have this problem with booting my image |
| 14:34.51 | Beineri | sredna: my booted copy has no /union directory - I guess that only exists during boot phase? |
| 14:35.12 | REAL | Blissex: to clean my tab bar only i have to do the same? |
| 14:35.30 | Blissex | REAL: I suspect so. |
| 14:35.39 | Beineri | REAL: define "tab history"? By closing the tab? :-) |
| 14:35.41 | sredna | Beineri: It seems like it should be created, I think it is then mounted at / |
| 14:35.43 | Blissex | REAL: nooooo |
| 14:35.46 | sredna | Or something like that |
| 14:35.52 | Blissex | REAL: just right click on the URL bar... |
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| 14:36.26 | Blissex | REAL: the last option is 'Clear history' |
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| 14:36.39 | Dyllan | hey all. |
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| 14:37.52 | Dyllan | With regard to KDevelop, once youve created your form, buttons and input fields etc, how do i actually save it so that when i double click it, then it will present the form to used? |
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| 14:40.46 | Hagge_ | I guess this is the wrong place to ask but can anyone figure out why my lesser than, greater than and pipe chars doesn't work in kde? (archlinux, se-latin1 keysetting in console, xorg with 105 key swedish keysetting, kde with or without swedish keysetting) |
| 14:40.47 | sredna | Hagge_: Try looking at what keyboard layout you are using |
| 14:41.02 | Beineri | sredna: I'm a bit confused atm, did you only add modules to /modules/ (or /optional/) and ran create_bootiso.sh or did you modify more (the uncompressed file system)? |
| 14:42.17 | sredna | Beineri: I modified the uncompressed filesystem by running mo2dir /opt and /usr, then on modules created from kdei18n etc, then compressing the /opt and /usr back with dir2mo |
| 14:42.18 | Beineri | sredna: adding a link sounds like more or did you create that just within a new module? |
| 14:42.28 | sredna | Beineri: That is according to the docs at the slax site |
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| 14:43.26 | Hagge_ | sredna: you mean number of keys? what does nodeadkeys-setting do? |
| 14:43.36 | sredna | Hagge_: No, the keyboard layout |
| 14:43.44 | Hagge_ | in xorg.conf it's set to se |
| 14:43.58 | Hagge_ | in kde control panel i had it set to se aswell |
| 14:43.59 | sredna | Hagge_: In the control center, go to 'Reginoal & Accesability->Keyboard Layout' |
| 14:44.01 | Hagge_ | removed that noww |
| 14:44.08 | Hagge_ | but maybe i have to restart before |
| 14:44.16 | sredna | That is not nessecary |
| 14:44.26 | sredna | Kde modifies the layout immediately |
| 14:44.41 | Beineri | sredna: ok, never tried that. I only tried adding modules from Slax site and recreating the iso with create_bootiso.sh and converting .tgz packages to .mo and recreating the ISO |
| 14:45.34 | Beineri | sredna: the whole filesystem I only changed by copying the running CD to HDD, changing it there and running ./runme.sh of the Live-Scripts to get back a CD |
| 14:45.40 | sredna | Beineri: My reason for doing the other thing was to fix those additional issues |
| 14:45.57 | Hagge_ | sredna: well, in that case i guess with my old xorg.conf (105/se) it didn't worked because i had choosen swedish in kde before i changed to swedish settings in the config file. And now when i removed it it probably didn't worked since the ati drivers config file had choosen 102 keys, anyway changed that aswell and have restarted kde and now it works so all fine, thanks. |
| 14:46.07 | sredna | Beineri: Oh, I could try that as well |
| 14:46.32 | sredna | Beineri: In any case, an easy way of producing localized versions of klax would be cool I guess |
| 14:46.49 | Beineri | sredna: can you try to just pick the unmodified Klax ISO, a module from Slax (Firefox/Gimp/...) and running create_booiso.sh (without doing other changes), just to check that this part of the tool chaing works? |
| 14:47.21 | sredna | Beineri: Though I still look for a relatively complete cd to give away, something that can convince people that linux/KDE is a suitable replacement for windows |
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| 14:47.45 | Beineri | sredna: feel free to add (or remove) stuff which you want :-) |
| 14:47.49 | sredna | Beineri: I could do that. |
| 14:47.56 | Beineri | (like Gimp) |
| 14:48.08 | sredna | Beineri: I mainly would like to add a video player and gimp |
| 14:48.37 | sredna | Apart from that standard KDE is enough to get a loooong way :) |
| 14:48.44 | sredna | Maybe flash |
| 14:49.34 | Beineri | sredna: did you follow http://slax.linux-live.org/doc_customize.php ? |
| 14:49.56 | Beineri | sredna: or http://slax.linux-live.org/doc_modules.php#modifymo ? |
| 14:50.30 | sredna | I read both |
| 14:50.49 | sredna | And ended up mostly using that latter |
| 14:51.17 | sredna | There is also a bug in the uselivemod script in the version used for klax |
| 14:51.31 | sredna | So I fixed that too |
| 14:51.57 | Beineri | sredna: Mhm, hadn't to change anything here. |
| 14:52.07 | sredna | Beineri: What did you do to replace 'slax' with 'klax'? |
| 14:52.25 | sredna | Beineri: So you can run uselivemod from a running klax? |
| 14:52.31 | sredna | That won't work here |
| 14:52.52 | Beineri | sredna: To replace the strings? Use some perl/sed magic :-) |
| 14:53.17 | sredna | Be in the root of the cdrom directory? |
| 14:53.40 | sredna | Well, since you didn't change modules, that would be it |
| 14:54.06 | sredna | But there is nothing in /modules |
| 14:54.28 | Beineri | I put something in there of course :-) |
| 14:55.08 | Beineri | k3b-i18n-0.11-noarch-2.mo kde-i18n-de-3.4.0-noarch-1.mo koffice-i18n-de-1.3.5-noarch-1.mo |
| 14:55.46 | sredna | Beineri: One issue I have with slax/klax too is that it fails to find my scsi cdrw during boot |
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| 14:56.20 | sredna | I have to manually load sg and aic7xxx, and create the device node |
| 14:56.22 | Beineri | sredna: can you mail me the new or patch for uselivemod so I can fix that in next release? |
| 14:56.49 | sredna | Beineri: I can, if you don't want to use that latest version of linux-live |
| 14:57.00 | Beineri | sredna: it's fixed there? |
| 14:57.01 | sredna | Beineri: Or slax - it's at 5.06 I believe |
| 14:57.15 | sredna | I'd think so |
| 14:57.26 | Beineri | 5.0.5 is the latest, klax is atm based on 5.0.4 |
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| 14:58.03 | sredna | Let me check my archieve |
| 14:58.10 | Beineri | sredna: if it also doesn't work with Slax please don't report bugs to me ;-) |
| 14:58.14 | Roey | um |
| 14:58.14 | Roey | hi |
| 14:58.25 | Roey | kde's smb:// is broken for Active Directory browsing |
| 14:58.27 | Roey | just so you know. |
| 14:58.30 | sredna | Beineri: Sure :) |
| 14:59.20 | sredna | Hm, the uselivemod script is not patched |
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| 15:07.37 | pinotree | hello |
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| 15:58.27 | Utwig | does anyone have a problem with kopete and msn?? |
| 15:58.35 | Beineri | everyone? |
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| 15:59.47 | Blissex | Utwig: you perhaps? :-) |
| 15:59.47 | Killibilli | i found a quanta bug, it freezes when i add new file to project |
| 15:59.52 | Killibilli | someone has the same bug ? |
| 16:00.16 | Utwig | it keeps asking for password for msn |
| 16:00.20 | Blissex | Utwig: consider reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html on how to ask better questions... |
| 16:00.37 | Blissex | Utwig: perhaps the password is wrong... |
| 16:00.42 | Utwig | well gaim, kopete, trillian, etc... sometimes break when they change protocols |
| 16:00.58 | sredna | Utwig: Read the topic for this channel please |
| 16:01.16 | Utwig | since i had no problem earlier with gaim and since i also checked password by signing in mail account, i thought change of protocol might have been the case |
| 16:01.22 | sredna | Utwig: Read the topic for this channel please |
| 16:01.35 | Killibilli | i'm going crazy :D |
| 16:01.46 | Utwig | ah |
| 16:01.48 | Utwig | sorry |
| 16:02.55 | Beineri | Utwig: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106026 |
| 16:03.02 | Utwig | so do i get source from svn and compile kopete |
| 16:03.10 | Utwig | or do i wate for update to appear on YOU |
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| 16:04.00 | sredna | Utwig: The topic contains a URL to a wiki page that explains how to build just kopete from svn sources |
| 16:04.01 | Beineri | Utwig: depends on your urgency :-) |
| 16:04.05 | anhi | you ? run, it's that ugly green monster that wrecks up entire systems :/ |
| 16:04.16 | Beineri | Utwig: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111653795222107&w=2 |
| 16:04.35 | Utwig | i have 3.4 kde |
| 16:04.51 | Beineri | Utwig: and? |
| 16:05.02 | Utwig | well that is something about backporting to 3.3 |
| 16:05.43 | Beineri | Utwig: uhm, right. :-) But you can be it's also backported for 3.4.1 |
| 16:05.49 | sredna | Branch has been fixed. The fix would be in 3.4.1 |
| 16:06.10 | Beineri | Utwig: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvs&m=111649885105875&w=2 if it makes you feel more happy |
| 16:06.23 | sredna | Bbl |
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| 16:06.54 | Beineri | Utwig: sooner or later SUSE will likely do an update... |
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| 16:17.32 | Julianyus | hi |
| 16:18.25 | _sorrenti | hi |
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| 16:38.01 | Q-collective | anyone familiar with kuake? |
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| 16:41.24 | Beineri | Q-collective: installed, tried, deleted :-) |
| 16:41.42 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 16:42.02 | Q-collective | I was wondering if there was a way to put it on top or left or right |
| 16:42.10 | Q-collective | the bottom is not really ideal |
| 16:42.10 | Q-collective | :P |
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| 16:42.30 | Beineri | Q-collective: sure, considering that the kde-apps.org screenshot shows it at top :-) |
| 16:42.45 | Beineri | iirc also left and right are possible |
| 16:43.11 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 16:43.42 | Q-collective | ah |
| 16:43.48 | Q-collective | found it already, lol |
| 16:43.49 | Q-collective | :P |
| 16:44.11 | Q-collective | right-click on the bar of kuake, stupid of me really :P |
| 16:44.33 | Beineri | well, where else? ;-) no window border, no menu bar, ... :-) |
| 16:44.37 | Julianyus | someone is having problems with kopete and the msn protocol? i can't connect to MSN, kopete says that the password is wrong but i'm sure that is right |
| 16:44.50 | Q-collective | Julianyus: a known issue |
| 16:45.07 | Julianyus | Q-collective: where can i read about? |
| 16:45.08 | Q-collective | it's a big fat ass bug :-) |
| 16:45.13 | Beineri | Julianyus: install SVN, distributor update or wait for KDE 3.4.1 |
| 16:45.35 | Beineri | Julianyus: countless duplicates on bugs.kde.org :-) |
| 16:45.35 | Q-collective | try the kopete bugzilla? I'm sure there is an entry about it by now |
| 16:45.47 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 16:45.55 | Julianyus | ok, thx, i'll go to read :) |
| 16:45.57 | Q-collective | emerge gaim |
| 16:46.03 | Q-collective | :P |
| 16:46.14 | Julianyus | Beineri: what is SVN? |
| 16:46.16 | Beineri | Q-collective: sure that Gaim is not also affected? :-) |
| 16:46.20 | Beineri | Julianyus: Subversion |
| 16:46.42 | Julianyus | Beineri: i use gaim in windows and it's not affected |
| 16:47.02 | Beineri | Julianyus: most be a code-piece they don't share then :-) |
| 16:47.38 | Q-collective | Beineri: I'm msn'ing with gaim right now |
| 16:47.42 | Q-collective | so, I guess not ;) |
| 16:48.16 | Julianyus | the strange think is that if i try sometimes, randomly kopete connect |
| 16:48.51 | Q-collective | heh |
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| 16:53.19 | Flendor | Good evening. |
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| 16:54.39 | grepper | afternoon |
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| 16:55.29 | Q-collective | hmm, kuake sure is interesting |
| 16:55.57 | Q-collective | it just needs to have a bit better animation and tab support and it would rock :D |
| 16:56.55 | oGALAXYo | Q-collective: hello |
| 16:56.59 | oGALAXYo | :) |
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| 16:59.13 | Q-collective | oGALAXYo: hey |
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| 17:04.15 | rogk | I have problems with SuSE's multiple desktops, I want it to be 6 and I change it to 6 and "Apply", but always when I boot SuSE it have been changed to 2. Is there a file where I could derectly with konsole change the number to 6? |
| 17:04.41 | njaard | send SuSE a cluebat |
| 17:04.48 | njaard | tell them to hit themselves with it |
| 17:05.57 | rogk | Yes, if I just know what cluebat is. :) |
| 17:06.31 | Tm_T | haha |
| 17:06.41 | rogk | but really, what should I do? |
| 17:06.54 | Tm_T | look at yourself? |
| 17:07.13 | rogk | and I see cluebat? |
| 17:07.29 | oGALAXYo | yeah |
| 17:08.32 | oGALAXYo | its a saying actually.. |
| 17:08.40 | oGALAXYo | clue as.. the wisdom you have in your brain |
| 17:08.53 | oGALAXYo | and a bat is a wooden stick used in basball games.. |
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| 17:09.08 | oGALAXYo | now the saying means, you need to hammer your head with the wooden stick to get some brain. |
| 17:09.36 | rogk | thanks I'll do that. |
| 17:10.28 | Tm_T | rogk: look at yourself in a mirror and say "I never use SUSE! |
| 17:10.30 | Tm_T | ! |
| 17:10.31 | Tm_T | " |
| 17:10.35 | Tm_T | ;--P |
| 17:10.59 | rogk | and what I should use...... |
| 17:11.39 | Tm_T | hmm, something with deb in it |
| 17:12.39 | rogk | I have got Debian here, too. |
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| 17:14.47 | rogk | So, are there an answer to my question? |
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| 17:16.52 | oGALAXYo | rogk: thats probably a bug from suse packaging or something, please contact suse support for this. |
| 17:17.11 | Tm_T | rogk: Debian <3 |
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| 17:18.54 | rogk | oGALAXYo: Thanks |
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| 17:26.43 | kendwork | so hey, there was apparently some security flaw (PCX loading?) recently, that was fixed, but then re-fixed |
| 17:26.50 | kendwork | is there any news article or write-up about it anywhere? |
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| 17:36.59 | Utwig | can you recommend enemy territory server browser for linux? |
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| 17:40.06 | Beineri | Utwig: is that a KDE application? ;-) |
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| 17:40.17 | Utwig | well i'd preferably have kde app |
| 17:40.20 | Utwig | but if it's not kde |
| 17:40.25 | Utwig | i would also be happy |
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| 17:40.40 | Utwig | basically i'm looking for replacement of All Seeing Eye on the windows side |
| 17:41.02 | parph | what is all seeing eye |
| 17:41.03 | Utwig | my framerate under lubix is same to higher than in windows and enemy territory is what i play mostly |
| 17:41.11 | ppareit | kopete does currently not work with the msn protocol, will the soon to be released kde 3.4.1 contain a kopete that can connect to msn? |
| 17:41.13 | Utwig | game server browser |
| 17:41.23 | Utwig | ppareit: yes |
| 17:41.32 | pinotree | ppareit: read the topic please |
| 17:42.05 | ppareit | ach, ok, I see, thanks a lot |
| 17:42.08 | Utwig | http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/games/ase/ |
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| 17:42.27 | Utwig | because kopete doesn't display full topic in title bar? |
| 17:42.34 | Utwig | ie, the answer is hidden |
| 17:42.47 | Utwig | and topic scrolls down too quickly :( |
| 17:42.49 | Utwig | :( |
| 17:42.56 | Utwig | i meant :) even |
| 17:42.57 | Roey | um |
| 17:43.00 | Roey | yeah |
| 17:43.06 | pinotree | Utwig: use konversation, and you'll see the entire topic :-D |
| 17:43.12 | Utwig | kopete is fine |
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| 17:43.18 | ppareit | pinotree: well, normaly the topic is a link to the faq, wich I have read before (honnest), I would not have expected the answer to be there |
| 17:43.19 | Utwig | no need for several irc clients |
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| 17:43.58 | pinotree | Utwig: i use kopete for 3 protocols (excluding irc) |
| 17:44.10 | pinotree | Utwig: and i can assure you it's not handy for irc |
| 17:44.14 | ppareit | pinotree: even in konversation, wich I'm using now, and wich I prefer for doing irc, the topic is not fully displayed |
| 17:44.16 | Utwig | well i use it for 4 protocols including irc |
| 17:44.25 | Utwig | it handles irc sufficiently for my nic |
| 17:44.29 | Utwig | err for my needs |
| 17:44.30 | pinotree | ppareit: there's a splitter to adjust the topic area |
| 17:45.07 | pinotree | ppareit: the dots just above the text area |
| 17:45.10 | ppareit | pinotree: but I admit that I might have moved the splitter up before to see more of all the nice conversations going on everywere |
| 17:45.15 | Utwig | unlike gaim and trillian |
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| 17:45.43 | pinotree | ppareit: yes, but when you enters in a channel, the topic is printed as message |
| 17:45.48 | Utwig | which don't handle irc sufficiently for my needs |
| 17:46.27 | ppareit | pinotree: yes, it is, can I call in my dyslection for that problem? |
| 17:46.27 | Utwig | which scrolls past too quickly to be read |
| 17:46.57 | pinotree | ppareit: uh? o_O i didn't understand you... |
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| 17:47.24 | ppareit | pinotree: that was more of a joke, you are right, I should have checked the topic! |
| 17:47.48 | pinotree | ppareit: nothing seriously, just a (small) advice ;) |
| 17:47.54 | Utwig | ;) |
| 17:47.58 | ppareit | :-) |
| 17:48.15 | Utwig | is there a kde equivalent of xqf |
| 17:48.33 | pinotree | is it a game? |
| 17:48.57 | Utwig | no |
| 17:49.01 | Utwig | it's a game server browser |
| 17:49.02 | pinotree | =/ |
| 17:49.04 | oGALAXYo | there is |
| 17:49.07 | oGALAXYo | http://developer.kde.org/~lukas/kqf/ |
| 17:49.10 | oGALAXYo | kqf |
| 17:49.11 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 17:49.15 | Utwig | excelent |
| 17:49.17 | pinotree | in our playground/games |
| 17:49.30 | ppareit | I hope a fixed kopete comes available on kde-apps.org that can be compiled for older versions of kde, why can't they (you know who) make a protocol that lasts |
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| 17:49.56 | pinotree | ppareit: the fix was backported also on kde 3.3.x |
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| 17:50.02 | Utwig | not yet released |
| 17:50.04 | rob_out | ppareit: that would makes everyone's lives except theirs way too easy |
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| 17:50.22 | Q-collective | ppareit: there are several protocols that lasts: jabber, irc.. |
| 17:51.09 | ppareit | Q-collective: I know, but try to tell that to all those nice girls that my msn adress... |
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| 17:51.44 | Q-collective | ppareit: jabber can port to msn |
| 17:51.45 | Q-collective | :) |
| 17:52.55 | ppareit | Q-collective: this is something I'll have to recherce |
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| 17:53.19 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 17:53.25 | oGALAXYo | Q-collective: you on kde now ? |
| 17:53.38 | Q-collective | no, but I do use some kde apps |
| 17:53.43 | oGALAXYo | i see |
| 17:53.46 | Q-collective | I like xfce better |
| 17:53.49 | oGALAXYo | i am currently running kde now.. |
| 17:53.50 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
| 17:53.53 | oGALAXYo | good decision |
| 17:53.59 | Q-collective | I agree :-) |
| 17:54.18 | oGALAXYo | the other project whose name i forgot is really losing people.. |
| 17:54.31 | oGALAXYo | people wander off to kde, macosx, xfce or E |
| 17:54.57 | Q-collective | E is a joke |
| 17:55.16 | Q-collective | e17 isn't nearly being complete and e16 was cool... in 2000 |
| 17:55.38 | oGALAXYo | depends... i just had a look towards E17 or whats released so far. leeched the movies from rasterman.com |
| 17:55.56 | oGALAXYo | was quite promising imo... i mean E17 offers technology that GNOME wants to re-invent on their own.. |
| 17:56.10 | oGALAXYo | all the techno babbel from seth and havoc is exactly wat E17 offers beneath it. |
| 17:56.16 | oGALAXYo | evas and so on. |
| 17:56.21 | Q-collective | well, E does have some interesting techs |
| 17:56.33 | Q-collective | but it's really bad that they are not gtk based |
| 17:56.58 | oGALAXYo | hmm well.. |
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| 17:57.39 | oGALAXYo | it all has its pros and cons.. |
| 17:58.17 | Q-collective | perhaps |
| 17:58.40 | Q-collective | don't get me wrong, E is great in exploring new concepts |
| 17:58.41 | oGALAXYo | atm i am a huge fan of kde.. |
| 17:58.48 | oGALAXYo | its something i can finally get my work done with. |
| 17:58.56 | Q-collective | but I think it will never be a desktop again |
| 17:59.09 | Q-collective | of any importance anyway |
| 17:59.22 | oGALAXYo | oh dont worry, i dont get you wrong since i dont care for E at all.. |
| 17:59.28 | oGALAXYo | i do like it but dont give a flying either :) |
| 17:59.38 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 17:59.46 | Q-collective | Entrance is very cool though |
| 18:01.03 | oGALAXYo | http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot10qu.jpg http://img127.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot11yl.png http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot22rk.jpg http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot39vf.jpg http://img241.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot42sc.jpg http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot54gf.jpg |
| 18:01.08 | oGALAXYo | get a look at my desktop |
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| 18:02.50 | Q-collective | oGALAXYo: spammer :) |
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| 18:03.15 | oGALAXYo | yeah sue me :) |
| 18:03.25 | Q-collective | now, get a look at mine: http://www.q-collective.org/orange-shot.png http://www.q-collective.org/xfce-with-aterm.png |
| 18:03.42 | Q-collective | yes, I use nautilus, but only because I like gvm ;) |
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| 18:06.30 | Q-collective | oGALAXYo: and this is what it is looking now: http://q-collective.org/xfce-20-5-2005.png |
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| 18:07.13 | _alessandro | hi all! :) |
| 18:07.21 | _alessandro | please, i need help |
| 18:08.14 | Q-collective | bye pinotree |
| 18:08.33 | Q-collective | _alessandro: just ask |
| 18:09.44 | Blissex | _alessandro: consider reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html |
| 18:10.02 | _alessandro | ok, i've upgraded with Synaptics, after reboot start menu and multiple desktop just disappear from bottom bar... :( |
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| 18:10.58 | redloff | hi |
| 18:11.03 | Q-collective | _alessandro: distro? |
| 18:11.14 | Q-collective | hey there redloff |
| 18:11.32 | _alessandro | debian ubuntu |
| 18:12.00 | redloff | my kcontrol freezes the whole system while I have "RenderAccel" enabled in xorg.conf, without it kompmgr works terrible, does anyone know a solution to that problem? |
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| 18:13.28 | Blissex | redloff: contribute a patch to NVIDIA or whatever :-) |
| 18:13.55 | redloff | is it nvidia's fault? |
| 18:14.21 | redloff | or rather xorg/kde? |
| 18:14.24 | Blissex | There are know s with render acceleration in the NVIDIA drivers, |
| 18:14.39 | redloff | know s ? |
| 18:15.29 | Q-collective | I think he meant known bugs |
| 18:15.34 | redloff | oh |
| 18:16.04 | redloff | cause I read all the time about the buggyness of xorg and xcompmgr |
| 18:16.21 | redloff | so I wouldn't suspect nvidia, considering what I've read |
| 18:16.37 | redloff | so you say that, i.e. a newer binary drivers could help? |
| 18:16.58 | Q-collective | well, composite is still very alpha stuff, so the problem could be anywhere |
| 18:17.10 | redloff | how can I sniff it then? |
| 18:17.37 | redloff | a "track" would be the word I was lookin for |
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| 18:17.43 | redloff | how can I track it :> ? |
| 18:17.57 | redloff | track down even.. |
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| 18:18.31 | Q-collective | redloff: running stuff through gdb perhaps? |
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| 18:18.46 | hagbard_ | hi |
| 18:18.50 | hagbard_ | what about a gdesklets for kde? |
| 18:18.52 | redloff | oh |
| 18:18.54 | hagbard_ | i'm searching something like that |
| 18:19.05 | redloff | Q-collective, that's too advanced for me :\ |
| 18:19.24 | _alessandro | ok! Thanks a lot!!! |
| 18:19.32 | Q-collective | hagbard_: there is superkaramba for kde |
| 18:19.36 | hagbard_ | mh |
| 18:19.46 | hagbard_ | superkaramba isn what gdesklets is |
| 18:19.59 | Q-collective | hagbard_: it's de equevalent for kde |
| 18:20.25 | hagbard_ | mh |
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| 18:21.44 | hagbard_ | Q-collective, how to use? |
| 18:22.02 | Q-collective | read the readme? :-) |
| 18:22.07 | Q-collective | it's not so hard |
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| 18:23.36 | hagbard_ | Q-collective, i need calendar and weather DISPLAY |
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| 18:23.41 | hagbard_ | not a new style for desktop! |
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| 18:24.25 | Q-collective | hagbard_: uhm, superkaramba is kde native, you won't get a new style of desktop |
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| 18:25.22 | hagbard_ | i need weather and stuff |
| 18:25.49 | slayerbob | :P |
| 18:25.57 | hagbard_ | Q-collective, ;( |
| 18:26.14 | redloff | hagbard_, superkaramba offers all that |
| 18:26.25 | redloff | hagbard_, look at http://kde-look.org |
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| 18:26.39 | hagbard_ | redloff, yeah |
| 18:26.42 | redloff | is it possible to enable kompmgr only on one screen? |
| 18:26.43 | hagbard_ | can i use karamba themes? |
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| 18:26.53 | redloff | hagbard_, I'm not sure, check the site |
| 18:27.06 | redloff | it's explained there |
| 18:28.32 | slayerbob | owies :( |
| 18:28.40 | slayerbob | why be you waking me at 6.30am ? |
| 18:28.48 | slayerbob | and on a saturday no less :P |
| 18:28.51 | slayerbob | hiya Flendor :P |
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| 18:29.18 | Flendor | I think you were awake already |
| 18:29.22 | slayerbob | :P |
| 18:29.24 | Flendor | Unless you're a sleep-typer :P |
| 18:29.29 | slayerbob | yeah i have been waking around 4am of late |
| 18:29.32 | slayerbob | i have no idea why |
| 18:29.41 | Q-collective | lol |
| 18:29.46 | slayerbob | but it is quite handy for getting stuff done around the house before i go to work :P |
| 18:29.51 | Flendor | Oh, yes, told me that.. Hmm.. Drink a glass of milk with honey, and try to sleep again? |
| 18:29.57 | slayerbob | today i have to go and get four new tires for my car |
| 18:30.03 | slayerbob | which is gonna be expensive |
| 18:30.11 | Flendor | Oh, you go to work on Saturdays, I see. Oooh, cool :) what brand of car? |
| 18:30.15 | slayerbob | but not as expensive as sliding off the road :P |
| 18:30.19 | slayerbob | it's just a cheapy |
| 18:30.26 | slayerbob | alfa romeo or some such |
| 18:30.35 | Flendor | LOL, alfa romeo is a cheapy? |
| 18:30.38 | hagbard_ | m |
| 18:30.38 | hagbard_ | mh |
| 18:30.42 | slayerbob | yup |
| 18:30.43 | hagbard_ | how can i then move the displays? |
| 18:30.44 | Flendor | I dreamed of the 156 for years |
| 18:30.55 | slayerbob | this is just a little boxer 33 |
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| 18:31.02 | Flendor | Oh, I see. :) |
| 18:31.04 | slayerbob | hiya anisX |
| 18:31.10 | Flendor | Hello anis :) |
| 18:31.12 | slayerbob | Flendor: they sell for around $1000 second hand |
| 18:31.22 | anisX | heya uncle bob |
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| 18:31.25 | slayerbob | although i am about to spend $360 on tires for it |
| 18:31.25 | anisX | hai Flendor |
| 18:31.39 | slayerbob | really wanted the michelin tires for $760 |
| 18:31.43 | Flendor | hagbard - I think Karamba windows are fixed by default |
| 18:31.51 | slayerbob | but i guess they will have to wait until i have a little more cash in a couple of months |
| 18:31.54 | Flendor | Heh, that's a tad too expensive I think.. |
| 18:32.05 | slayerbob | nah it sticks to the road like glue with them |
| 18:32.19 | slayerbob | i used to drive between hanmer springs and christchurch without slowing down from 100kph |
| 18:32.19 | Flendor | No, even if you have a lot of money - paying $760 for a 1k car.. Oh, so you tested it. |
| 18:32.29 | slayerbob | and some of the corners were 50kph corners |
| 18:32.48 | slayerbob | it literally just sticks to the road with those michelin tires so they are worth every penny in my book |
| 18:32.49 | anisX | can i join ? |
| 18:32.51 | anisX | :D |
| 18:32.55 | anisX | cars ? |
| 18:32.57 | Flendor | hagbard - I think you can right-click the windows and de-select the choice for "detach", "fix", whatever |
| 18:33.10 | slayerbob | anisX: yeah i have to go and buy new tires for my car today :( |
| 18:33.22 | Flendor | Oh, I see. But never forget - The Alfa is handling well too! :D |
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| 18:33.37 | anisX | slayerbob: whoah..that is great...at least u have a car |
| 18:33.44 | slayerbob | anisX: indeed |
| 18:33.46 | hagbard_ | how can i then move it to the position i need?? |
| 18:33.54 | slayerbob | anisX: although they are not exactly expensive here :P |
| 18:34.25 | anisX | heh..but we also need money to buy it |
| 18:34.27 | anisX | :p |
| 18:34.31 | slayerbob | tire shop opens at 7am so i will head down there then before the police are up to pull me over for driving with bald tires |
| 18:34.32 | Flendor | Well, you just drag it.. I haven't tried every applet out there, but the Weather one I tried (hmm, what was it.. Don't remember the name) you could just click somewhere on the window and drag it |
| 18:34.49 | anisX | slayerbob: toyota supra ? |
| 18:34.56 | slayerbob | nah it is a little alfa romeo |
| 18:34.59 | Flendor | LOL slayer :) Tell them you just got off a drag race :P |
| 18:35.04 | slayerbob | LOL Flendor |
| 18:35.12 | anisX | ihiks :) |
| 18:35.30 | anisX | supra is good..i already drive it |
| 18:35.34 | slayerbob | Flendor: if i am pulled over i will just tell them i am on my way to the garage to get the tires changed - since i have an appointment they will most likely believe me :) |
| 18:35.47 | Flendor | Oh, nice then :) You won't get "busted" :D |
| 18:35.50 | tjs57 | your tires are that bad? |
| 18:35.51 | slayerbob | :P |
| 18:36.00 | slayerbob | tjs57: they have almost no tread |
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| 18:36.20 | slayerbob | and we are legally required to have 2.5mm tread on 75% of the tire |
| 18:36.22 | Flendor | (I think "busted" is just a slang for getting arrested..I don't know if it has any side meanings. I think I played too much GTA..) |
| 18:36.27 | tjs57 | police are likely to notice that when you are driving along? |
| 18:36.37 | tjs57 | or even if they pull you over for something else... |
| 18:36.38 | slayerbob | tjs57: i would have to be really really unlucky |
| 18:36.48 | anisX | Flendor: vice city ? |
| 18:36.49 | slayerbob | my main concern is that i accidentally hit an expensive car |
| 18:36.57 | slayerbob | cos without legal tires the insurance is worthless |
| 18:37.20 | tjs57 | drive carefully then :-) |
| 18:37.23 | slayerbob | that said i have driven in snowstorms without chains in complete safety before |
| 18:37.25 | Flendor | Well I played every game in the series except Vice City :) |
| 18:37.29 | slayerbob | so i am unlikely to hit anyone :P |
| 18:37.32 | sarah03 | Flendor: 'Busted' is more along the lines of 'caught'. |
| 18:37.40 | slayerbob | Flendor: you are missing out - vice city is a classic |
| 18:37.55 | slayerbob | hiya sarah03 |
| 18:37.59 | sarah03 | 'ello :) |
| 18:38.03 | Flendor | Oh... Well, I have a *ahem* copy on my desk, which my little cousins bought.. |
| 18:38.16 | Flendor | ..but I don't bother myself to install it. :/ |
| 18:38.24 | Flendor | Hey there sarah, how are you this morning? |
| 18:38.27 | slayerbob | since i will actually be able to afford to buy it :P |
| 18:38.52 | Flendor | Hey, I *can* afford to buy a game - Bought Morrowind Game of the Year edition a month ago.. |
| 18:39.04 | slayerbob | lol |
| 18:39.55 | slayerbob | that's an old game |
| 18:39.55 | Flendor | Eh, well, yes, but I still paid 26 Us$ for it.. |
| 18:39.55 | slayerbob | i remember spending two days trying to make that work for someone who bought a video card from me when i had a shop |
| 18:39.55 | slayerbob | turned out that she had a faulty motherboard |
| 18:39.58 | apow | vice city is fun :D |
| 18:39.58 | Flendor | LOL.. |
| 18:40.12 | slayerbob | 10 June is the release date for san andreas here :P |
| 18:40.20 | apow | but i miss a multiplayer feature |
| 18:40.22 | Flendor | ..It was an awesome game. I spent many years waiting for it; and 1,5 years in the official forums.. |
| 18:40.27 | slayerbob | lol |
| 18:40.32 | apow | it was nice to blow your friends up in gta 2 :D |
| 18:40.33 | Flendor | apow - Hmm, perhaps I really should install it :/ |
| 18:40.41 | slayerbob | i have never played it except in setting up for others |
| 18:40.49 | Flendor | There is a multiplayer mod for Vice City, no? |
| 18:40.57 | slayerbob | your friends apow ? was it multiplayer ? |
| 18:40.57 | apow | never saw it |
| 18:41.09 | slayerbob | Flendor: have not seen one, and the multiplayer on gta3 was really really bad |
| 18:41.12 | sarah03 | Flendor: *shrug* Doing ok, just working on what I'm thinking is the very end of the site I've been working on for months. |
| 18:41.15 | apow | slayerbob: gta 2 is playable over ipx/spx and tcp/ip (maybe) |
| 18:41.21 | slayerbob | apow: oh ok |
| 18:41.24 | Flendor | slayerbob - I think you should.. It's a nice game. And so much effort went into it - EVery single object in the VERY huge gameworld is hand-placed... |
| 18:41.26 | apow | ipx/spx for sure |
| 18:42.00 | apow | what i liked better is that you could rig your car with a bomb |
| 18:42.14 | apow | then i'd leave the car as soon as someone closed in |
| 18:42.14 | slayerbob | lol |
| 18:42.17 | Flendor | sarah - Oh.. My English isn't good enough to understand subtle meanings, so I'll ask openly: For good or for bad? |
| 18:42.51 | sarah03 | "end" as in "done", not "end" as in "you're fired". |
| 18:42.59 | slayerbob | lol |
| 18:43.07 | sarah03 | :) |
| 18:43.09 | slayerbob | do you have another project to continue on with sarah03 ? |
| 18:43.15 | sarah03 | slayerbob: Yes. |
| 18:43.19 | slayerbob | :) |
| 18:43.54 | Flendor | Nice to hear that :) |
| 18:44.26 | Flendor | ..I still need to decide if I'll couple it with the Razer mouse though :/ |
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| 18:45.10 | Flendor | Welcome back. |
| 18:47.27 | apow | lol... there is only one room that plays digital film master-tapes at the local multiplex, therefore all sessions are fully booked till monday for star wars 3 |
| 18:47.47 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 18:48.14 | apow | i'll have to be happy to watch it in a not-so-good room :) |
| 18:48.26 | hagbard_ | how can i modify this themes? |
| 18:48.34 | hagbard_ | i ened to put them on the very right of my screen |
| 18:48.37 | slayerbob | if it was any good they would have been advertising it already apow :P |
| 18:49.05 | apow | they are... it's just that i wanted the best room |
| 18:49.10 | slayerbob | oh ok |
| 18:49.13 | apow | the others still have tickets available |
| 18:49.31 | Flendor | I think I need to watch that movie.. I skipped Return of the King, and everyone was talking about it.. (Thing is, I don't like LotR anymore..) |
| 18:49.39 | slayerbob | no tv, no radio... don't go to that sort of web site... |
| 18:50.14 | apow | slayerbob: neither do i, except when battlestar galatica or any of the stargate series is on tv :P |
| 18:50.28 | slayerbob | no i mean i do not even own a tv or radio :P |
| 18:50.36 | apow | wow :) |
| 18:50.49 | Flendor | Heh, I though you had one but you hadn't unpacked it yet :P |
| 18:50.59 | slayerbob | well i have the internet - why would i need tv or radio ? |
| 18:51.03 | sarah03 | Heh. I don't own a TV, unless a TV tuner card counts. |
| 18:51.04 | slayerbob | nope have not had a tv for years |
| 18:51.13 | apow | slayerbob: how much bandwidth u got? |
| 18:51.20 | slayerbob | apow: sadly not enough :( |
| 18:51.21 | Flendor | In our house we have 3 TV's.. And 2 radios. |
| 18:51.23 | slayerbob | only 2Mbps atm |
| 18:51.30 | Flendor | :0 |
| 18:51.31 | slayerbob | actually i have 5 2Mbps connections |
| 18:51.34 | slayerbob | but only one of them is here |
| 18:51.35 | apow | slayerbob: LOL |
| 18:51.40 | slayerbob | well... six at the moment |
| 18:51.51 | slayerbob | until my house in hanmer springs is moved out of in a couple of weeks |
| 18:51.52 | apow | i have one 1MBit connection and that's downstream only |
| 18:52.03 | apow | 320 upstream |
| 18:52.09 | slayerbob | i would like to get the 10Mbps cable :P |
| 18:52.12 | apow | and it is so damn expensive |
| 18:52.18 | slayerbob | or maybe i could get an apartment in town and have 100Mbps :D |
| 18:52.24 | apow | whaa |
| 18:52.42 | slayerbob | but i think i would prefer to get me a nice little house a little out of the city |
| 18:52.43 | Flendor | :0 *jealous* |
| 18:52.50 | slayerbob | even if it means going back to adsl |
| 18:53.02 | Flendor | Got cable now? |
| 18:53.10 | slayerbob | yeah i have 2Mbps cable at the moment |
| 18:53.16 | slayerbob | it is fast enough for most things |
| 18:53.16 | apow | slayerbob: how nicely do you nz'ers treat brazilian immigrants? :P |
| 18:53.28 | Tm_T | actually in here, adsl is better than cable =) |
| 18:53.30 | sarah03 | Hm. I'll have 3M/768k ADSL here in 6 days. |
| 18:53.39 | slayerbob | sarah03: about time too :P |
| 18:53.47 | njaard | sarah03: sounds, er, nice |
| 18:53.47 | sarah03 | slayerbob: That it is. |
| 18:53.54 | slayerbob | hiya njaard :P |
| 18:53.59 | njaard | hi slayer |
| 18:54.01 | apow | here cable is better, in speeds and in latency, but it is way more expensive |
| 18:54.08 | slayerbob | cable is better here too |
| 18:54.13 | apow | actually it's double of what i pay for my adsl |
| 18:54.16 | slayerbob | but only because the adsl provider hasn't a clue |
| 18:54.31 | njaard | and this is england where there basically is no internet at all |
| 18:54.32 | sarah03 | Hm. Here it depends on the features you're after. |
| 18:55.11 | sarah03 | Beyond that... the only real difference between cable and DSL is that the cable provider would love for you to think that their service is the best. |
| 18:55.20 | apow | and cable here is deployed as a local double ring with uplink, if many people are using it at once your connection to the provider starts getting slow |
| 18:55.26 | slayerbob | well here with cable you get reasonable upload speed, static ip, proper traffic control at the isp so that your ssh etc sessions do not get lagged when you are downloading... |
| 18:55.31 | sarah03 | And the telco would love for you to think that their service is the best. |
| 18:55.52 | Flendor | Cable is worse here. For the same amount of money, ADSL gets 256; we get 128. |
| 18:56.09 | slayerbob | with the adsl you get appaling upload speed, dynamic ip, no traffic control |
| 18:56.25 | Flendor | I think dynamic IP isn't that bad.. |
| 18:56.27 | sarah03 | My reason for choosing DSL over cable is that the telco doesn't give a shit what you do with the connection. |
| 18:56.30 | slayerbob | i had an 8Mbps adsl connection - every time i downloaded anything my ssh sessions would become very lagged |
| 18:56.42 | slayerbob | even though i would only be using 1/4 of the connection for the download |
| 18:56.47 | apow | slayerbob: you can do your own traffic control, if you dont mind capping your upload speed at 95% |
| 18:56.50 | njaard | slayerbob: get a better modem |
| 18:56.54 | slayerbob | now of course i have traffic control on my routers :P |
| 18:57.02 | njaard | slayerbob: or do traffic shaping on your end |
| 18:57.04 | slayerbob | njaard: already fixed :P |
| 18:57.11 | apow | wondershaper works well here :) |
| 18:57.15 | slayerbob | njaard: this is some years ago that i am talking about |
| 18:57.19 | slayerbob | i just use iproute2 now :P |
| 18:57.28 | njaard | slayerbob: some DSL modems buffer quite a bit so they the benchmarks suggest you can download faster |
| 18:57.29 | Flendor | Hmm.. Do you think I should get an LCD, or attend some online friends' wedding in Scotland? |
| 18:57.33 | njaard | that's true about cable as well |
| 18:57.36 | slayerbob | njaard: yeah i know |
| 18:57.58 | Flendor | The LCD will cost me like, 750 $.. About the same as the journey.. |
| 18:58.01 | slayerbob | Flendor: tough call |
| 18:58.07 | njaard | my email is provided to me by myself on my P133, 5500 miles away, on a DSL connection ;) |
| 18:58.18 | slayerbob | "sorry i was gonna come but LCD :D" |
| 18:58.31 | njaard | Flendor: guilt them. a lot. |
| 18:58.37 | slayerbob | njaard: heh my email is on a celeron 1200 about 500km from here :P |
| 18:59.08 | njaard | hm. tough call, Celeron 1200 or P133 |
| 18:59.08 | slayerbob | :P |
| 18:59.08 | njaard | I'd take the P133 to be honest ;) |
| 18:59.08 | Flendor | I know both the bride and groom (online).. Knew them before they started dating, and am pretty close with both of them.. |
| 18:59.12 | slayerbob | heh it *was* a p133 but it was not fast enough for some software i wrote |
| 18:59.21 | Flendor | ..plus, some other folks that I met over the internet are coming (we're a chatroom's regulars).. |
| 18:59.21 | njaard | Flendor: I'd go to scotland, but I'd take advantage of their hospitality and stay for a while |
| 18:59.22 | slayerbob | so rather than rewrite the software i just upgraded the machine |
| 18:59.45 | slayerbob | ok well i'm off to spend $$$ at the tire shop - bbl |
| 18:59.58 | njaard | Flendor: that said, I'm a person who gets free hotel pretty much anywhere in the world ;) |
| 19:00.03 | Flendor | njaard - I don't think they will offer hospitality, they're just married and have only 1 house :P I'd need to stay in an hotel.. |
| 19:00.13 | njaard | Flendor: ouch |
| 19:00.14 | Flendor | See you slayer! |
| 19:00.22 | njaard | bye slayer. good luck |
| 19:00.48 | Flendor | I think I'd need to go and return the day after, since I'll also be attending summer courses in university.. |
| 19:01.47 | Flendor | ..I think I want the LCD.. but how can I say "no" to them? They trust me with everything, we've talked about all things in life.. :( |
| 19:02.07 | njaard | Flendor: if you want therapy, I recommend #kde-devel :] |
| 19:02.14 | slayerbob | heh |
| 19:02.27 | Flendor | Oops, yes, sounded way too skitzophrenic, sorry. |
| 19:02.42 | njaard | Flendor: I'd only go if I could spend more than a couple days |
| 19:02.42 | Flendor | (I hope I spelt that right).. |
| 19:02.55 | njaard | Flendor: maybe you should ask them if they can provide you a place to stay (it doesn't have to be nice :) |
| 19:02.55 | Flendor | BTW, aren't you supposed to be in your car now? :P |
| 19:03.02 | njaard | Flendor: you spelled it totally wrong |
| 19:03.07 | Flendor | Hmm.. Yes, I could do that. |
| 19:03.41 | Flendor | Oh. Well, the only way I can spell that damn word better is becoming one and memorizing it (like I did with OCD), and I don't want that :P |
| 19:03.52 | njaard | OCD isn't very hard to spell, though |
| 19:04.06 | Flendor | Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is, a little bit. |
| 19:04.15 | njaard | each word on its own is pretty easy, though |
| 19:04.37 | Flendor | Well, I think I kinda hijacked the channel :/ Sorry. |
| 19:04.51 | njaard | Flendor: call me weird (go ahead now) |
| 19:05.04 | njaard | Flendor: the LCD will just seem rather worthless in a couple years |
| 19:05.19 | njaard | Flendor: but you'll have loads of fun and will likely not regret it, if you went to scotland and enjoyed yourself |
| 19:05.28 | njaard | Flendor: so you just need to make it a point to enjoy yourself if you go |
| 19:06.17 | Flendor | Please see private. |
| 19:06.26 | njaard | that's disgusting |
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| 19:07.16 | njaard | Oh, and if you go to scotland, they deep fry mars bars |
| 19:07.24 | njaard | I've never had them before, but I hear they're good ;) |
| 19:12.23 | Flendor | disgusting? |
| 19:12.25 | Flendor | Selam baba |
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| 19:19.06 | Flendor | I'm gone. See you later. |
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| 19:23.54 | kendwork | who here is familiar with www.kde-files.org ? |
| 19:24.20 | tbscope | what do you want to know, kendwork? |
| 19:24.23 | kendwork | i'm trying to explain its significance to my wife, who happens to be an editorial assoc. for desktoplinux.com :) |
| 19:24.53 | kendwork | it's admittedly not an 'obvious' thing :) |
| 19:25.29 | tbscope | that's maybe because it's not so common to see it on a "desktop" level. |
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| 19:27.18 | kendwork | well, versus "server" or "embedded device", it certainly is more desktop-related :) |
| 19:27.28 | njaard | kendwork: bill? |
| 19:27.36 | kendwork | Desktop users would care that [such-n-such-data] is available for [K-such-n-such-desktop-app] :) |
| 19:27.43 | kendwork | hey charles! |
| 19:28.04 | kendwork | how's it going?! |
| 19:28.25 | njaard | kendwork: 'sok |
| 19:28.39 | njaard | kendwork: will be back in the ol' San to the Zay in a couple weeks |
| 19:29.16 | kendwork | cool |
| 19:29.20 | kendwork | i'm living in Mtn View now and working in PA |
| 19:29.27 | kendwork | (err, Palo Alto, that is ;) ) |
| 19:29.31 | njaard | yeah, I figured |
| 19:29.32 | kendwork | we should hook up! |
| 19:29.42 | njaard | cuz Mtnview->pennsylvania is a harsh commute |
| 19:29.49 | kendwork | hehehehehh |
| 19:29.59 | njaard | yeah, we should totally |
| 19:30.15 | njaard | I've a job at los altos with roland |
| 19:30.20 | njaard | you remember roland |
| 19:30.23 | kendwork | nice; where at? |
| 19:30.26 | kendwork | yeah :) |
| 19:30.29 | njaard | distuingushing characteristics: German Accent |
| 19:30.30 | njaard | :) |
| 19:30.33 | kendwork | hahah |
| 19:30.43 | njaard | civil eng. co |
| 19:30.48 | njaard | wai.com IIRC |
| 19:30.48 | kendwork | Qt stuff, no doubt? |
| 19:30.52 | njaard | yup :) |
| 19:30.53 | kendwork | Linux-y, or? |
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| 19:31.03 | njaard | I'll be using linux |
| 19:31.14 | njaard | hold on, gotta check I don't melt down the wok |
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| 19:31.53 | kendwork | heh |
| 19:31.58 | astronut | (not a troll) what's a win32 equivlent to 'krename' |
| 19:32.00 | astronut | ? |
| 19:32.10 | kendwork | so seriously, how do i explain the significance of kde-files.org? :) |
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| 19:32.19 | kendwork | astronut - cygwin + bash? ;) |
| 19:32.42 | astronut | ya |
| 19:32.44 | astronut | oh, ia gree |
| 19:32.46 | kendwork | fucking locked up on me right when my boss called. >:^( |
| 19:32.46 | astronut | krename is gui |
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| 19:33.05 | kendwork | "yeah, wait 5 minutes... can't look at that important email you sent just /yet/" |
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| 19:34.02 | kendwork | cool beans |
| 19:34.28 | astronut | anyway |
| 19:34.34 | astronut | need to find a prog like krename for windows |
| 19:34.46 | johnny69 | Good afternoon folks...question for ya. When using konqueror as a file manager, is it normal for it not to update the directory contents? I find myself hitting F5 quite often to see changes...such as when I am downloading something, it finishes...but the directory listing in Konqueror does not reflect that. Even moving into another directory and then clicking on original dir' does not force it to update the contents. I am sorry for |
| 19:34.47 | johnny69 | winded post here...hope I was clear in what I was trying to get across. Thanks. (Kde 3.4/Fedora 3) |
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| 19:35.31 | kendwork | seems to update okay for me, but i don't notice too often (kde 3.4/debian testing) |
| 19:35.33 | astronut | dbus? |
| 19:35.46 | njaard | the phones suck in england, too |
| 19:36.01 | kendwork | Dude! Get on the D-Bus! |
| 19:36.04 | kendwork | http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/130 |
| 19:36.05 | kendwork | ;) |
| 19:36.20 | kendwork | specifically, this might helP: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/wiki/ |
| 19:37.09 | kendwork | charles - your company is practically down the street from where i live (between the middle fields, and between rengstorff and san antonio) |
| 19:37.21 | kendwork | where'll you be living? |
| 19:37.48 | njaard | kendwork: west-side (gansta gesture here) SJ still with parents |
| 19:37.55 | njaard | Moorpark and Lawrence |
| 19:38.18 | njaard | kendwork: and I have no comments on kde-files :) |
| 19:38.22 | kendwork | oh yeah, you're a hella youngin', no? :) |
| 19:38.27 | kendwork | damn you! |
| 19:38.32 | kendwork | man, i just turned 30 |
| 19:38.36 | kendwork | and do i ever feel like it :) |
| 19:38.41 | njaard | kendwork: ouch |
| 19:38.46 | kendwork | "what's that, sonny? where's my pain medicine?!" |
| 19:38.51 | kendwork | RENEW! |
| 19:39.01 | njaard | kendwork: I'll get you an artificial hip as a birthday gift |
| 19:39.25 | njaard | kendwork: well, in any case, getting an apt for 3 months seems a bit much |
| 19:39.33 | njaard | and parents are a lot cheaper especially in SJ :) |
| 19:41.42 | kendwork | so you taking off after 3mo? |
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| 19:42.33 | njaard | yup, but next is my last year, then I'm FREEE!!!!! |
| 19:43.06 | kendwork | school, i presume? where ya going? |
| 19:43.32 | kendwork | we should hang out... i don't hang out with enough people down this way |
| 19:43.46 | kendwork | i threw a party/bbq at the end of last month, but that's different |
| 19:43.59 | kendwork | it'd be nice to have people around more, since that keeps the house clean all the time :) |
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| 19:51.11 | njaard | kendwork: school yup |
| 19:51.15 | njaard | kendwork: lunch now so I gotta go |
| 19:51.20 | kendwork | cya |
| 19:51.21 | njaard | kendwork: ntu.ac.uk :) |
| 19:51.28 | kendwork | email me: bill@newbreedsoftware.com |
| 19:51.32 | kendwork | tell me when you're back in the states |
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| 19:51.40 | njaard | 2 weeks minus a day |
| 19:51.51 | njaard | I'll give you a shout after a bit |
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| 19:54.35 | GOD | Hey i was wondering how I would install kwifimanager |
| 19:54.36 | GOD | it |
| 19:54.49 | GOD | It's not in my install list |
| 19:54.52 | GOD | or anywhere I can find. |
| 19:54.58 | GOD | and it's not already installed |
| 19:55.30 | kendwork | what distro? |
| 19:55.39 | GOD | Mandrake 10.1 |
| 19:56.01 | kendwork | KDE 3.4? 3.3? |
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| 19:56.13 | kendwork | i have no clue, but might be able to help find a clue :) |
| 19:56.13 | GOD | 3.3 |
| 19:56.26 | GOD | Hmm. |
| 19:57.17 | GOD | Any ideas? |
| 19:57.17 | kendwork | hrm, someone on a forum sez: |
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| 19:57.35 | kendwork | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-206672.html - "With Mandrake, software installation is easy. Just open up the Mandrake Control Center (Configure Your Computer in the Settings section of kmenu) and go to the software section. You can add/remove software there, among other things. Do a search for kwifi and it should come up." |
| 19:57.44 | kendwork | but then also recommends people look at http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ |
| 19:58.39 | GOD | I've tried that it's not there. |
| 19:58.50 | GOD | and it's not in the already installed area either. |
| 19:59.02 | GOD | I think I may need to upgrade to 3.4.. |
| 19:59.02 | GOD | ha |
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| 20:00.46 | kendwork | well, good luck :) sorry i can't help more |
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| 20:01.28 | GOD | Thanks for trying though |
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| 20:05.15 | Qerub | My swap partition shows up in media:/. Any ideas why? |
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| 20:06.02 | njaard | ahhh |
| 20:06.04 | njaard | mmm |
| 20:07.17 | Qerub | Hmm. Could anyone give me their swap line in fstab, please? |
| 20:08.19 | Qerub | :( |
| 20:08.27 | njaard | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.45 | Qerub | Just like mine... Thanks. |
| 20:09.18 | kool | "/dev/hda1 swap swap pri=42 0 0" |
| 20:10.33 | Qerub | I'll none->swap. Thanks. |
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| 20:13.01 | slayerbob | well that took longer than expected :P |
| 20:13.07 | langenberg | I've compile my whole system without arts support. Can KDE use native ALSA as output for its system sounds? |
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| 20:16.54 | slayerbob | sbaader: kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Theme Manager |
| 20:18.00 | sbaader | slayerbob: yeah.. I got this far, biut when I install a theme through synaptic it doesn't show up there |
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| 20:18.32 | slayerbob | sorry i do not use synaptic |
| 20:19.08 | sbaader | it doesn't matter, it's just an apt- frontend it is the same when i do a pure apt-get install |
| 20:19.31 | slayerbob | well it would be |
| 20:19.36 | slayerbob | sadly i also do not use apt-get :P |
| 20:19.55 | sbaader | the problem is that no thme shows up in the list... dunno if that's normal.. :| |
| 20:19.59 | sbaader | so what do you use? |
| 20:20.08 | slayerbob | magic kde pixies :) |
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| 20:20.57 | sbaader | hehe |
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| 20:21.43 | raf256 | how the fuck can I set an application to be default for given extenssion? |
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| 20:21.55 | raf256 | like to always default open .jpg in gqview |
| 20:22.24 | pinotree | raf256: kcontrol -> kde components -> file associations |
| 20:22.31 | pinotree | or something like that |
| 20:22.38 | langenberg | how the fuck? |
| 20:23.10 | langenberg | hrm. How the fuck do I play sound notifications using native alsa! |
| 20:23.26 | raf256 | thnx \o/ |
| 20:24.15 | langenberg | nobody knows? |
| 20:24.24 | njaard | langenberg: can alsa play ogg, mp3, or wav files? |
| 20:24.27 | sbaader | i don't.. sorry. |
| 20:24.28 | langenberg | I don't want arts on my system when I don't need it at all. |
| 20:24.47 | langenberg | njaard: it's intended to be. |
| 20:24.49 | njaard | langenberg: 1) you're a moron 2) you do need it 3) see 1 |
| 20:24.56 | njaard | langenberg: 4) you're wrong |
| 20:24.59 | langenberg | njaard: ? |
| 20:25.08 | slayerbob | heh |
| 20:25.09 | langenberg | What are you talking about? |
| 20:25.23 | njaard | something you don't know anything about |
| 20:25.28 | sarah03 | I've been trying to figure out, for some months now, what the fascination is with building KDE without aRts. |
| 20:25.36 | slayerbob | heh |
| 20:25.43 | njaard | hi sarah :) |
| 20:25.44 | slayerbob | well arts causes my holly to crash :( |
| 20:25.52 | langenberg | I'm just wondering if KDE can output its sound notifications trough native ALSA. |
| 20:25.54 | slayerbob | but i certainly wouldn't go to the effort to remove it :P |
| 20:25.55 | sarah03 | 'ello :) |
| 20:26.04 | langenberg | Instead of using an ugly sound daemon as aRTs |
| 20:26.32 | njaard | sorry, I'm a bit angry today, haven't been listening to enough death metal |
| 20:26.40 | njaard | langenberg: read 4) carefully, then read 1-3 as well |
| 20:26.46 | sarah03 | langenberg: I believe you can configure KDE to use an external player. Otherwise, aRts handles *all* audio in KDE, except for those few applications which have explicit support for alternative output engines like gstreamer. |
| 20:26.49 | njaard | langenberg: and for good measure, read 2) a couple times |
| 20:26.57 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 20:27.12 | langenberg | njaard: erhm. need a hug? |
| 20:27.22 | sarah03 | On the other hand: I've never done so, have no intention of doing so, and all things considered, aRts isn't all that bad. Quite powerful, really. |
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| 20:27.26 | njaard | I've needed a hug for the past few years |
| 20:27.33 | njaard | langenberg: you're still wrong, mind you |
| 20:27.39 | njaard | langenberg: that I'm rude and mean doesn't change that |
| 20:27.42 | slayerbob | :P |
| 20:27.42 | langenberg | njaard: I know alsa isn't a player ;) |
| 20:27.57 | langenberg | njaard: second, I do know where I'm talking about. |
| 20:27.57 | Alethes | oh wait, I'm not gay :( |
| 20:28.11 | slayerbob | Alethes: lucky for your wife :P |
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| 20:28.14 | Alethes | hehe |
| 20:28.15 | cubex | hello everyone |
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| 20:28.20 | njaard | ok, bye now |
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| 20:28.24 | slayerbob | bye njaard |
| 20:28.25 | njaard | langenberg: cya babe :P |
| 20:28.32 | langenberg | njaard: *kiss* |
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| 20:28.38 | cubex | i know i should be asking this on #kmail, but there's absolutely nobody there |
| 20:28.50 | marjom | fire away |
| 20:28.53 | slayerbob | cubex: that's ok - there is absolutely noone here either |
| 20:28.57 | langenberg | sarah03: I know about that option, funny thing is, it doesn't do anything at all. |
| 20:29.13 | cubex | i'm trying to import mail from thunderbird to kmail, and all these messages end up with "Unknown Sender" instead of the From address |
| 20:29.15 | sarah03 | langenberg: As I said, I've never tried it, nor have I ever used it. |
| 20:29.33 | sarah03 | No point. aRts does the job of playing audio well enough for me. |
| 20:29.36 | cubex | the same mail was imported into evolution, and bunch of other clients just fine.. but i really really want kmail |
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| 20:29.55 | langenberg | sarah03: It has a delay, it is useless when you have a good hardware mixing soundcard. |
| 20:29.59 | marjom | cubex go to ~/Mail and delete all the index files and restart kmail |
| 20:30.04 | cubex | so can anybody please give me a clue? |
| 20:30.08 | cubex | marjom, what index files? |
| 20:30.08 | marjom | kmail will regen them |
| 20:30.36 | cubex | marjom, but there are no index files, i just imported an mbox file |
| 20:30.49 | marjom | cubex: there hidden files |
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| 20:31.22 | cubex | marjom, i know, but what kmail is doing is removing From: from message headers |
| 20:31.39 | marjom | cubex:sorry misunderstood |
| 20:31.47 | cubex | marjom, i don't know why it would do that. i try to view the source, and there is no From: header |
| 20:32.03 | cubex | marjom, although when you open the mbox file in any editor, you'll see that header |
| 20:32.16 | cubex | am i doing anything wrong here? or is it a problem with kmail? |
| 20:32.22 | marjom | cubex: hmm that is odd |
| 20:32.54 | cubex | marjom, i know... i don't even know where to start |
| 20:33.03 | marjom | cubex: check bugzilla if there isnt a bug file one |
| 20:33.10 | cubex | marjom, tried dos2unix and unix2dos, i thought that might be the problem |
| 20:33.17 | cubex | marjom, ok, i will |
| 20:33.34 | cubex | but meanwhile, i need to import my mail, do you know any workarounds? |
| 20:33.50 | sarah03 | langenberg: I've got a decent soundcard here. And ALSA is quite nice. But it's far less trouble to run KDE sound through aRts. And the latency, for what it's used for under KDE, isn't really all that bad. |
| 20:34.32 | sarah03 | Basically, it's far less trouble to use aRts than it is to try finding the other ways to make notifications and other such things work. |
| 20:34.51 | marjom | cubex: try importing as plain text |
| 20:35.43 | cubex | marjom, an mbox file? |
| 20:35.45 | marjom | cubex:which filter are you trying to use? |
| 20:35.51 | Alethes | good god |
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| 20:36.04 | Alethes | whoever came up with the crystal icon theme should be skinned alive |
| 20:36.37 | cubex | marjom, "Import mbox files" |
| 20:36.55 | cubex | the one written by Laurence Anderson |
| 20:37.58 | marjom | cubex: i really cant see why it wont work |
| 20:38.33 | cubex | marjom, oh well, that's ok |
| 20:38.44 | cubex | i just thought that somebody might've bumped into the same problem |
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| 20:38.57 | marjom | cubex:theres bound to be another tool to convert mbox to some other format kmail can read |
| 20:39.24 | cubex | marjom, i'm still looking, but i couldn't find anything |
| 20:41.48 | marjom | cubex:mb2md converts mbox to maildir dunno iuf that will help |
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| 20:42.36 | ralf | hi |
| 20:42.58 | cubex | marjom, i don't know if kmail handles maildir, but i'll try that, thanks :) |
| 20:42.59 | ralf | when printing html pages with konqueror i have a huge right border |
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| 20:44.38 | marjom | cubex:Does kmail not use maildir normally? i forget what its native format is |
| 20:44.48 | marjom | vcubex:but it can handle maildir |
| 20:45.24 | cubex | marjom, i'll try it right now |
| 20:45.36 | cubex | but i'm looking for a similar problem in bugzilla |
| 20:45.58 | marjom | yeah worthy of a bug |
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| 20:47.22 | marjom | cubex:hope it works. gota go good luck |
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| 20:47.47 | benjamindees | anybody know the oldest version of kde/qt that will compile the kde dialogs in openoffice? |
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| 20:56.06 | sredna | Hey * |
| 20:56.35 | pinotree | hello sredna |
| 20:57.39 | pinotree | sredna: help!! |
| 20:57.45 | slayerbob | hiya sredna |
| 20:57.46 | sredna | pinotree: With? |
| 20:57.51 | sredna | Yay slayerbob :) |
| 20:57.58 | pinotree | sredna: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UioIGk13.html :'( |
| 20:58.02 | slayerbob | yay ? |
| 20:58.13 | pinotree | sredna: the code: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Xwos620.html |
| 20:58.16 | sredna | Or hi, or whatever :) |
| 20:58.20 | slayerbob | :P |
| 20:58.55 | pinotree | hello slayerbob |
| 20:59.00 | slayerbob | hiya pinotree |
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| 20:59.22 | pinotree | hi -> hiya -> yay |
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| 20:59.28 | sredna | Family tradition :p |
| 20:59.47 | Slayer[RTFM] | some kicker dev around? |
| 21:00.29 | sredna | pinotree: Does your class use the Q_OBJECT macro? |
| 21:00.37 | sredna | And is the moc file generated? |
| 21:00.46 | sredna | And does it inherit QObject? |
| 21:01.12 | pinotree | sredna: the header: http://rafb.net/paste/results/emCV4r75.html |
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| 21:01.49 | pinotree | sredna: the problem is related to qslider |
| 21:01.58 | pinotree | the other class can connect() well |
| 21:02.09 | pinotree | i can't figure why |
| 21:02.15 | pinotree | =/ |
| 21:02.21 | Slayer[RTFM] | I need one kicker dev to solve the library genreated header interdependency .... |
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| 21:02.38 | slayerbob | :| |
| 21:02.47 | slayerbob | someone managed to break one of the TFTs from my internet cafe :( |
| 21:02.58 | slayerbob | that sucks :( |
| 21:03.03 | Bachus9000 | Does anyone have a fix for the Kopete MSN log-in bug? I hear there's a patch and that it will be included in kde 3.4.1, but I'd like it sooner. :) |
| 21:03.12 | pinotree | slayerbob: have you broken his bones? |
| 21:03.42 | sredna | pinotree: Do you include the moc file? |
| 21:03.56 | slayerbob | it only just arrived here :( |
| 21:03.57 | sredna | Bachus9000: /topic |
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| 21:04.25 | pinotree | sredna: yes, there is |
| 21:05.47 | Slayer[RTFM] | then I should write an email ... to bad kdebase is broken once again then |
| 21:05.49 | sredna | pinotree: Well, it looks like the qboject stuff is missing |
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| 21:06.39 | Bachus9000 | Ah, Konversation didn't show the last bit of the topic. D'oh. :) Thanks. |
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| 21:07.10 | sredna | pinotree: It seems g++ can't cast your widget |
| 21:07.11 | pinotree | sredna: strange, if i comment those connect() the compiling goes fine |
| 21:07.48 | sredna | pinotree: The ones connecting the widget |
| 21:08.00 | sredna | pinotree: Something with the cast, somehow |
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| 21:09.25 | sredna | pinotree: This code does not provide a QObject pare4nt to kdialogbase: |
| 21:09.26 | sredna | : KDialogBase( Plain, i18n("Learn More About the Table of Elements"), |
| 21:09.26 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.32 | sredna | Oh, it does |
| 21:09.34 | sredna | Sorry |
| 21:10.44 | pinotree | sredna: /me sucks!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:11.07 | pinotree | sredna: i forgot #include <qlcdnumber.h> and #include <qslider.h> ... |
| 21:11.10 | sredna | pinotree: It's realllly annoying when stlt happens, been there, hated that |
| 21:11.13 | sredna | He |
| 21:11.33 | sredna | Well, that is simple - and not visible in your paste, it laks the top of the file... |
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| 21:12.53 | sredna | Kate for kde 4.0 :o http://www.babylon2k.de/pub/kde/kate-kde4-20050520.png |
| 21:13.37 | Marrs | nice font rendering ;) |
| 21:13.43 | sredna | Lol |
| 21:13.50 | sredna | It's a very tinny beginning |
| 21:14.16 | sredna | It shows that the port of kdelibs compiles and can be used |
| 21:14.27 | Marrs | :) okay |
| 21:14.48 | sredna | The porting of kde started only a few days ago |
| 21:16.46 | sredna | Mumble, my addressbook in kmail is b0rk3d |
| 21:17.03 | Alethes | canllaith: you around? |
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| 21:19.42 | sredna | DAMNED |
| 21:19.49 | sredna | Kde deleted all my addresses |
| 21:20.01 | sredna | Good thing I have backup |
| 21:21.27 | apollo2011 | What utilities are available to recover files on reiserfs once they have been completely deleted out of the KDE Trash? |
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| 21:35.17 | Blissex | sredna: every night before going to sleep I pray that all drives that have not been backed up fail :-) |
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| 21:39.23 | goron | If I am in kde @ 1280x1024, I can't start an application needing a resolution higher than this. If I change the resolution in kde and then start the application. it does work. How can I really fix this, instead of working around it everytime? |
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| 22:13.34 | slayerbob | sarah03: not for much longer though :D |
| 22:16.05 | sarah03 | slayerbob: Yup. :D |
| 22:16.20 | sarah03 | I will say, I just *love* the weather out here. |
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| 22:16.22 | sarah03 | </sarcasm> |
| 22:16.35 | sarah03 | Not 20 minutes ago, it was pouring down hail. |
| 22:17.05 | sarah03 | Now, besides for the fact that the ground is wet, you wouldn't know that rain or anything had been coming down. |
| 22:17.17 | sarah03 | And the sun is busy coming out. |
| 22:18.25 | slayerbob | heh |
| 22:18.36 | slayerbob | here it is just overcast and miserable :P |
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| 22:18.47 | slayerbob | and so i am busy fixing notebooks |
| 22:19.03 | slayerbob | well... more like "fixing" since the fix to the first one involved turning off num lock |
| 22:20.03 | sarah03 | It can't make up it's mind whether the sun is going to be shining, or it's going to be overcast, or if it's going to be pouring down buckets, or some combination of all 3. |
| 22:20.49 | sarah03 | And yes, it being the end of spring up here, it frequently does manage to pull off all 3 simultaneously. |
| 22:21.19 | slayerbob | heh |
| 22:21.47 | slayerbob | in christchurch where i used to live it could literally go from 30'C perfect day to 0'C with hail and gale force winds in the space of half an hour |
| 22:22.41 | sarah03 | lol |
| 22:22.48 | sarah03 | It's not quite *that* bad here. |
| 22:23.24 | sarah03 | On the other hand, my idea of a perfect day is about 24C with light rain. |
| 22:23.25 | Kyaneos | hi |
| 22:23.41 | PieD | see you later |
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| 22:29.26 | dstambou | hrmm |
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| 22:29.38 | dstambou | for some reason my kopete logging on to msn says password is wrong... but it isn't |
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| 22:29.50 | dstambou | I use the same password to log into hotmail via a browser, and it works fine |
| 22:29.58 | pinotree | dstambou: please read the topic... |
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| 22:31.19 | marjom | dstambou: its the msn network try later |
| 22:31.51 | pinotree | dstambou, marjom: this issue was fixed yesterday |
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| 22:32.15 | dstambou | did something in the protocol change? |
| 22:32.16 | pinotree | dstambou, marjom: kde 3.4.1 won't be affected |
| 22:32.24 | dstambou | I'm using 3.4 at the moment |
| 22:32.33 | dstambou | worked fine up until the other day |
| 22:32.35 | dstambou | hrmm |
| 22:32.45 | pinotree | dstambou: no, m$ changed :@ |
| 22:32.55 | dstambou | gaim works fine however |
| 22:32.59 | dstambou | I haven't updated it |
| 22:33.04 | dstambou | and it works, so I'm not sure |
| 22:33.28 | pinotree | dstambou: the current svn version is fixed |
| 22:33.50 | pinotree | so you have to a) wait for kde 3.4.1 b) recompile kopete yourself |
| 22:34.02 | pinotree | i mean, a) _or_ b) ;) |
| 22:34.14 | dstambou | do I need the whole tree or updated kdelibs, or can I just compile kopete seperately? |
| 22:35.13 | marjom | libs base and network should cover it (base may be otptional) |
| 22:35.15 | pinotree | you can compile only kopete, but the stable version (aka the kde 3.4.x series) |
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| 22:53.04 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 22:53.10 | slayerbob | i need to get me some more pillows |
| 22:53.22 | slayerbob | something to shield me from thermal output from notebooks |
| 22:54.21 | magnuson | slayerbob> i use my skateboard propped up by my chair arms |
| 22:54.36 | slayerbob | sadly i am far too old to own a skateboard |
| 22:54.57 | slayerbob | and am not in a chair in any case :P |
| 22:55.08 | magnuson | me too, in truth i've never used it for anything else but my laptop |
| 22:55.16 | slayerbob | lol |
| 22:55.36 | magnuson | still got plastic wrap on it |
| 22:55.44 | magnuson | i found it works much better for that than for skating |
| 22:55.47 | sarah03 | slayerbob: I use one of the big pillows on the couch. |
| 22:55.49 | sarah03 | :D |
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| 22:56.06 | sarah03 | Don't really need second-degree burns on the top of my legs, you know. |
| 22:57.11 | slayerbob | sarah03: so did i at my old house |
| 22:57.11 | slayerbob | sadly i have only two pillows here :( |
| 22:57.11 | slayerbob | still is easy enough to buy more :P |
| 22:58.25 | sarah03 | *shrug* My bed is currently an overstuffed couch. |
| 22:58.32 | sarah03 | With lots and lots of pillows. |
| 22:59.11 | slayerbob | heh |
| 23:00.22 | sarah03 | brb |
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| 23:03.07 | dstambou | is kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.0-r2 fixed for kopete/msn? |
| 23:03.52 | Paleo | no |
| 23:06.17 | redloff | hi, can I increase/decrease a curent window opacity using console, with kompmgr running? |
| 23:07.28 | redloff | as transset-df changes opacity, but kompmgr doesn't pay attention to it and nothing changes :< |
| 23:07.33 | dstambou | cvs repository still able to c/o from? or moved to svn now? |
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| 23:12.45 | Dhraakellian | when opening a folder of bookmarks in tabs, is it possible to have it open subfolders as well? |
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| 23:17.40 | DebianTUX | Hi. |
| 23:17.58 | DebianTUX | do some one knows why kopete isnt connecting with msn network? |
| 23:18.12 | tjs57 | DebianTUX: Topic has the details |
| 23:18.17 | DebianTUX | tjs57, sorry |
| 23:20.49 | redloff | does anyone know the trick with transset-df and xbindkeys? |
| 23:20.56 | redloff | can I do the same with kompmgr? |
| 23:25.08 | Dhraakellian | hey, Alethes, do you have a copy of a large version of the Bluecurve kmenu icon? |
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| 23:42.59 | thiago | are you installing on top of your current installation? |
| 23:44.34 | Dhraakellian | well, I'm not planning on unmerging all of kdenetwork |
| 23:44.47 | Dhraakellian | so, yeah |
| 23:44.54 | Dhraakellian | and I'm just pondering now before I do anything |
| 23:45.26 | Dhraakellian | I'm just wondering if it'd cause trouble when it comes time to upgrade KDE |
| 23:46.26 | Dhraakellian | (and I think I'm going to hold off on switching to the split ebuilds until either 3.5 or 4.0, when I'll have slotting to make the transition easier) |
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| 23:47.02 | Paleo | is there a dcop call to reload the desktop ? |
| 23:47.09 | Paleo | not just refresh |
| 23:47.26 | thiago | reload, as in how? |
| 23:47.44 | Dhraakellian | like "dcop kicker kicker restart"? |
| 23:47.53 | Dhraakellian | but for kdesktop? |
| 23:47.53 | Paleo | yep, but for the desktop |
| 23:48.13 | Dhraakellian | kdesktop& in konsole and then close the tab? |
| 23:48.20 | Dhraakellian | after killing kdesktop |
| 23:48.57 | Dhraakellian | yeah, that is a tad annoying since alt+f2 disappears along with kdesktop |
| 23:49.05 | Paleo | yeah it worked |
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| 23:49.41 | Paleo | when I switch resolution with xranrd , the desktop get screw when I switch back to an higher resolution |
| 23:49.58 | Oleg_ | anybody saw the movie Kansas from 1988? |
| 23:50.06 | Dhraakellian | no |
| 23:50.31 | Oleg_ | did you see the movie Resident Evil? |
| 23:50.56 | Dhraakellian | no |
| 23:51.15 | Dhraakellian | but I have used WinXP and have a (mostly unused) copy on this computer |
| 23:51.24 | Dhraakellian | so there is Evil Resident here, if that counts |
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| 23:51.31 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 23:52.06 | Oleg_ | I recently saw the movie Ju-On-Grudge. Did you like it? |
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