| 00:00.13 | BadMan | hmmmmm |
| 00:00.47 | BadMan | must be all the acronym stuff or punctuations then |
| 00:00.56 | thiago | yes |
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| 00:03.40 | BadMan | hmm, anyway to adjust that...? |
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| 00:04.35 | X-The | some help in C language? |
| 00:04.45 | mattr | i would try #c for that |
| 00:05.47 | X-The | thanks |
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| 00:18.02 | Oleg_ | is it possible that kmplayer can't play some avi files? |
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| 00:18.53 | thiago | yes |
| 00:18.56 | thiago | can mplayer play them? |
| 00:19.03 | illogic-al | yes it is. but that's probably because mplayer can't play them either. |
| 00:19.12 | dstambou | argg something with my glib install is borked |
| 00:19.20 | illogic-al | which thiago has already said. |
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| 00:19.34 | dstambou | which means I can't compile gstreamer, which means I am stuck with arts for juk |
| 00:19.41 | dstambou | damnit |
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| 00:20.03 | illogic-al | there's always amaroK :-) |
| 00:20.26 | dstambou | never!! I will not desert my juk! I am loyal! |
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| 00:20.49 | dstambou | well I would build amarok with gst support too :p |
| 00:20.52 | dstambou | so that sucks as well hehe |
| 00:20.55 | illogic-al | heheh |
| 00:21.10 | illogic-al | xine'll still work. |
| 00:22.23 | Oleg_ | hold on |
| 00:22.26 | dstambou | apparently syntax error with gmessages.h ... the C file looks to be fine though, at a cursory glance. Tried removing/re-installing glib as well |
| 00:22.46 | dstambou | lots of errors, yum |
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| 00:25.09 | gregday | is anoncvs still down? |
| 00:25.53 | thiago | gregday: webcvs is, so I assume so |
| 00:26.10 | dwango | heh |
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| 00:26.18 | dwango | i've been connected to this irc server for 2 weeks |
| 00:29.07 | dstambou | dwango: *wow* |
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| 00:44.16 | slayerbob | wow it's really quiet in here atm |
| 00:44.50 | thiago | and you've broken the silence... |
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| 00:46.16 | Alethes | you insensitive clod |
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| 00:48.04 | df001 | Hey, does anyone have any problems w/ stuff like KDE's help tools/konqueror web browsing making X take 99% CPU and locking up? |
| 00:48.08 | df001 | I have to SSh in and kill stuff |
| 00:48.13 | df001 | but its only with those two things seemingly |
| 00:51.28 | illogic-al | huzzah! |
| 00:51.44 | slayerbob | indeed |
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| 01:00.00 | df001 | Hrm :( |
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| 01:04.03 | illogic-al | ReLuna! |
| 01:04.09 | illogic-al | I'm happy now |
| 01:04.44 | illogic-al | my themage has achieved it's highest level of "pimpness" attainable |
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| 01:05.36 | mattr | hehe |
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| 01:06.22 | mattr | and you're not even going to show us a screenshot? |
| 01:06.48 | illogic-al | still trying to find a suitable background image for konqueror. |
| 01:08.20 | illogic-al | hmm. background wallpaper seems to fit. |
| 01:08.52 | illogic-al | *ahem* I now present to you my sweetest looking desktop yet: |
| 01:10.41 | illogic-al | www.illogic-al.org/~orville/images/current_screenshot_.png |
| 01:11.09 | illogic-al | ack. 'tis huge. 2.2 MB. |
| 01:11.24 | mattr | not a problem. :) |
| 01:11.59 | illogic-al | www.illogic-al.org/~orville/images/current_screenshot.png <-- not so huge |
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| 01:13.29 | mattr | not bad |
| 01:13.30 | mattr | hi sarah03 |
| 01:13.44 | sarah03 | 'ello |
| 01:13.48 | sarah03 | :) |
| 01:14.23 | illogic-al | ty |
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| 01:19.20 | illogic-al | yes. yes i do as a matter of fact. |
| 01:19.47 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:20.27 | scrooge | its like it freezes when it loads pics |
| 01:20.27 | scrooge | but its not freezong |
| 01:20.27 | scrooge | just downloading the pic |
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| 01:21.34 | scrooge | illogic-al, niceness |
| 01:22.15 | illogic-al | :-D |
| 01:22.42 | illogic-al | it's the only reason for me to even boot into windows anymore. |
| 01:22.54 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:23.28 | illogic-al | i'd sell my left nut to have that theme ported to kde |
| 01:23.44 | scrooge | o_0 |
| 01:24.13 | Alethes | who would buy it? |
| 01:24.18 | Alethes | oh oh oh |
| 01:24.25 | Alethes | I know who |
| 01:24.25 | Alethes | Michael Jackson |
| 01:24.29 | Alethes | he likes little boy nuts :) |
| 01:24.40 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:25.45 | scrooge | i use luna element under xp |
| 01:25.48 | scrooge | and crystal xp |
| 01:25.52 | scrooge | :D |
| 01:25.59 | illogic-al | Alethes: i've got manly balls, and don't you forget it. |
| 01:26.04 | scrooge | crystal xp looks like kde :P |
| 01:26.29 | illogic-al | mine are bigger than yours and always will be (as is detailed in http://www.illogic-al.org/?p=7 ) |
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| 01:27.52 | scrooge | lol |
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| 01:30.32 | illogic-al | music amaroK time |
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| 01:31.56 | scrooge | o.0 |
| 01:32.06 | Alethes | he's saying amaroK is not music |
| 01:32.07 | scrooge | that was supposed to be colors? |
| 01:32.13 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:32.16 | dstambou | I got some weird square |
| 01:32.22 | scrooge | same |
| 01:32.24 | dstambou | with numbers / characters in it |
| 01:32.26 | scrooge | 0013 |
| 01:32.27 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:32.29 | Alethes | music is crossed out |
| 01:32.36 | dstambou | ah |
| 01:32.37 | scrooge | unicode? |
| 01:32.44 | dstambou | go juk! |
| 01:33.01 | Alethes | <strike></strike> <--the equivalent of that |
| 01:34.05 | illogic-al | convert to utf-8 |
| 01:34.07 | illogic-al | or die! |
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| 01:35.01 | illogic-al | and I am saying that amaroK is now synonymous with music. |
| 01:37.55 | aseigo_h | i'm going to listen to some amarok now |
| 01:39.13 | illogic-al | and so it begins. |
| 01:40.02 | scrooge | mmm |
| 01:40.19 | scrooge | amarok needs to remember my visualization settings and i be happy :P |
| 01:42.33 | scrooge | o.0 |
| 01:43.02 | Alethes | sounds like a wife |
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| 01:43.30 | illogic-al | even better. because amaroK never complains. |
| 01:46.37 | simmerz | running kmail from the console no longer enters information into the email, such as to, cc, bcc, subject and text |
| 01:46.45 | simmerz | using kde 3.4 |
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| 01:51.18 | illogic-al | suckage |
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| 01:53.30 | ockwick | hey all |
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| 01:54.15 | ockwick | did anybody build an i686 KDE 3.4.0 for slack 10.0 ? |
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| 01:55.21 | thiago | yes, just not for slack 10.0 |
| 01:55.28 | ockwick | then that's a no not a yes lol |
| 01:55.44 | thiago | you're right... |
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| 01:56.36 | ockwick | so I'm stuck with beta2 for now... :S |
| 01:56.56 | Alethes | if (!$for_686 && !$for_slack) return false; |
| 01:57.06 | ockwick | lol |
| 01:57.55 | thiago | <?php die() ?> |
| 01:58.04 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:58.24 | simmerz | kmail is annoying me that its commandline parameters dont work |
| 01:58.34 | thiago | which ones? |
| 01:58.51 | simmerz | any of them, except --composer |
| 01:59.05 | simmerz | I can't specify a to, or any of the other mail items |
| 02:00.08 | thiago | worked fine here |
| 02:00.16 | thiago | 3.4.0 branch 20050313 |
| 02:00.34 | simmerz | you're using cvs. I'm using gentoo ebuild |
| 02:00.46 | scrooge | ? |
| 02:00.56 | Alethes | you poor suckers on gentoo |
| 02:01.01 | snugglemonk | heh |
| 02:01.03 | Alethes | there are more of you with probs than not |
| 02:01.18 | scrooge | how? |
| 02:01.19 | scrooge | and this is gentoo fault? |
| 02:01.34 | simmerz | or are you using cvs? |
| 02:01.34 | simmerz | what version of kmail? |
| 02:01.34 | simmerz | i doubt it |
| 02:01.44 | canllaith | Ullo snugglemonk |
| 02:01.52 | simmerz | Alethes: minor niggles, i wouldn't say problems |
| 02:01.58 | scrooge | pfft |
| 02:01.58 | scrooge | its from source distro |
| 02:01.58 | scrooge | and somehow its gentoo's fault |
| 02:01.58 | scrooge | nice... |
| 02:01.58 | Alethes | heya canllaith |
| 02:02.02 | canllaith | Hey thiago, how are you today? :) |
| 02:02.07 | canllaith | hey Alethes :P |
| 02:02.08 | simmerz | gentoo just compiles the sources, so its not really any different to compiling from source, except there is a package manager to help you through it |
| 02:02.23 | Alethes | canllaith: such a nice polite greeting you have going there ;) |
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| 02:02.34 | canllaith | There is a psychological difference. |
| 02:02.36 | simmerz | anyway, thiago: what version of kmail you using? |
| 02:02.46 | thiago | simmerz: 1.8 branch 20050313 |
| 02:02.57 | scrooge | canllaith, lol |
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| 02:03.01 | scrooge | placeboness |
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| 02:03.04 | canllaith | The package manager means people who don't understand how to compile source code feel more comfortable with doing it. |
| 02:03.12 | canllaith | This has good points and bad points. |
| 02:03.27 | simmerz | thiago: hmm. im using 1.8 too. i wouldn't have thought it would be any different then |
| 02:03.29 | scrooge | class is in session! take notes |
| 02:03.45 | canllaith | It makes it far more acessible to newbies and can teach them some stuff - but it also means when they do sometimes stuff it up and break it, it's far beyond their skill to troubleshoot and fix. |
| 02:04.05 | scrooge | heh....n00bs cant install gentoo |
| 02:04.11 | scrooge | that requires reading the manual |
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| 02:04.14 | scrooge | they dont do that |
| 02:04.16 | canllaith | I've never seen any but n00bs use it. |
| 02:04.24 | scrooge | eh heh |
| 02:04.39 | canllaith | Anyone who is !Linus = noob. |
| 02:04.52 | scrooge | canllaith, n00b |
| 02:04.55 | scrooge | :P |
| 02:04.57 | Alethes | if you want ports, why not use fbsd and have a system that works better :D |
| 02:05.00 | canllaith | I know I am. |
| 02:05.01 | simmerz | canllaith: maybe, and im not a noob to linux, but certainly to compiling stuff with gentoo. but hey, i like a challenge. also i wanted evms working, which debian didnt let me, along with kde 3.4, and x.org, which until sarge (read "if") is released, wont happen |
| 02:05.26 | scrooge | simmerz, want kde cvs ebuilds? *G* |
| 02:05.32 | canllaith | I really hate those. |
| 02:05.33 | scrooge | they work...fixed em up myself :P |
| 02:05.51 | mattr | heh |
| 02:05.53 | simmerz | scrooge: hmmm. might be tempting. |
| 02:05.54 | canllaith | CVS is for developers and not users, why flood the channel with complaints about the CVS version ? Why use it? |
| 02:06.05 | simmerz | i dont use it |
| 02:06.05 | mattr | yeah, don't use CVS unless you're a developer |
| 02:06.14 | simmerz | i use the release version |
| 02:06.14 | mattr | that's what Alphas, Betas, and RCs are for |
| 02:06.17 | scrooge | canllaith, i was suggesting...he not using em |
| 02:06.17 | scrooge | heh |
| 02:06.20 | mattr | but nobody ever uses those either |
| 02:06.22 | mattr | *sigh* |
| 02:06.29 | mattr | so we get no feedback until we release really |
| 02:06.39 | mattr | i suppose you could use a stable CVS branch build |
| 02:06.40 | canllaith | I have full sympathy for those who say..... maybe want to use CVS kopete with 3.4.0 cause well, kopete is a bit silly sometimes. |
| 02:06.57 | mattr | kopete is like on crack half the time. ;) |
| 02:06.58 | Alethes | once I get a fast connection I'll be banging on cvs to help iron it out |
| 02:07.03 | canllaith | To use all of cvs KDE just means, you will break your KDE and come in here and complain to us (Who will also have broken KDE:P) |
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| 02:07.30 | mattr | what you talkin' about? I never have a broken KDE from CVS *cough* most of the time *cough* |
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| 02:09.32 | canllaith | mattr: epileptic kcm code that found it's way into alpha 1... *cough cough* |
| 02:09.33 | canllaith | :P |
| 02:09.45 | mattr | canllaith: that's what alphas are for. :D |
| 02:09.58 | canllaith | Yup, play practical jokes on the users ;) |
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| 02:10.33 | mattr | jokes are fun! :) |
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| 02:10.36 | Alethes | I downloaded opera to test my sites it. What a hideous browser. |
| 02:10.43 | Alethes | s/it/in |
| 02:10.45 | canllaith | So if Kpete is on crack like, half the time |
| 02:10.51 | canllaith | What is it on the rest? |
| 02:11.17 | mattr | the rest of the time is when i've made it work correctly. :) |
| 02:11.26 | canllaith | hehehe - my hero |
| 02:11.26 | snugglemonk | heh, speaking of kopete, it seems to segfault whenever I leave KDE. Is that just a gentle encouragement not to leave? :) |
| 02:11.35 | canllaith | snugglemonk: It's fixed in CVS for me. |
| 02:11.39 | mattr | snugglemonk: yeah, known problem. we suck. ;) |
| 02:11.42 | canllaith | As of last night |
| 02:11.51 | mattr | known is in, it's filed on b.k.o |
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| 02:11.55 | canllaith | Whether that means it's really fixed or I've stumbled on a workarond unknowing.... |
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| 02:12.04 | canllaith | mattr: heh and marked as a dupe of stylesheet probs....... |
| 02:12.06 | mattr | it'd be nice if fuckin' MSN quit crashin' |
| 02:12.16 | mattr | wait?!?! it went away? |
| 02:12.19 | mattr | shweet |
| 02:12.21 | Alethes | I don't have any complaints about kopete other than being forced to use the metacontact icon at the same time as the protocol icon, so that they end up being redundant |
| 02:12.25 | canllaith | mattr: as of last night yup |
| 02:12.35 | mattr | that's two cool bugs fixed lately |
| 02:12.47 | mattr | s/cool/really freakin' hard to track down and fix/ |
| 02:12.54 | canllaith | So I'm suggesting all MSN users with this problem to upgrade to KDE 3.4.0 release.... |
| 02:12.56 | snugglemonk | Hm. so, need to put that on the list of things to do... rebuild Kopete |
| 02:13.02 | canllaith | and then compile cvs kopete against it |
| 02:13.15 | canllaith | I'll find out in a few days how many of them also found that fixed their problem |
| 02:13.31 | mattr | and make sure libxml and libxslt is up to date with the latest versions available |
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| 02:16.10 | mattr | hmm, disappointing, maybe it's not as out of date as i thought |
| 02:16.41 | mattr | oh, hehe, wait, nm again, kdepim updated quite a bit of stuff |
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| 02:17.08 | Alethes | does changing the stylesheet for kopete also affect the buddy list? |
| 02:17.15 | Alethes | or is it just for the chat window? |
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| 02:18.56 | thiago | Alethes: just the chatwindow |
| 02:19.00 | Alethes | ok |
| 02:19.02 | Alethes | too bad |
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| 02:39.38 | snugglemonk | anyone out there know what I might have done to make it so kuickshow doesn't load jpg anymore? When I try, it complains that "the file format is unsupported or your lmlib i not installed properly" |
| 02:39.45 | snugglemonk | ...or how to fix it? |
| 02:44.10 | Alethes | kuickshow no longer supports porn |
| 02:44.18 | snugglemonk | hah. |
| 02:45.19 | snugglemonk | I have no idea what triggered it, I know it worked earlier. hm. |
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| 02:49.22 | snugglemonk | so, Alethes, no idea? |
| 02:49.33 | Alethes | no idea honestly |
| 02:49.36 | Alethes | did you rebuild anything? |
| 02:50.27 | snugglemonk | nope. I installed some framebuffer stuff, but that shouldn't harm KDE. |
| 02:50.31 | Tpo1 | I have no new memos... odd... |
| 02:51.33 | snugglemonk | konq shows the JPG images on a website. but it will not load them in kuick. |
| 02:52.37 | Alethes | kuickshow requires some gtk stuff |
| 02:52.41 | Alethes | did you break any of that? |
| 02:52.47 | snugglemonk | DAMN. It's not kuick, it seems all of those images are corrupt. |
| 02:52.56 | snugglemonk | I just saved a JPEG to the desktop, and it loaded right up. |
| 02:53.11 | snugglemonk | So, tons of freaking photos are wasted... fresh from the camera. |
| 02:53.16 | snugglemonk | hm. |
| 02:53.22 | snugglemonk | that'll be fun to explain. |
| 02:53.26 | Alethes | told you kuickshow doesn't support porn anymore |
| 02:53.32 | Alethes | especially self-porn |
| 02:53.55 | snugglemonk | hah. nice. |
| 02:54.06 | snugglemonk | I would have rather been taking a porn shoot. oh well. |
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| 02:54.52 | Roey | hello |
| 02:55.00 | Roey | How do I install Alioth's kde? |
| 02:55.04 | Roey | (kde 3.4.0) |
| 02:55.32 | snugglemonk | Roey: what are you using as your distro? |
| 02:55.42 | Roey | alioth's debian-amd64 |
| 02:55.52 | snugglemonk | hah, dunno about debian. |
| 02:55.55 | Roey | ok |
| 02:55.57 | Roey | funny nick btw |
| 02:56.00 | snugglemonk | You could use "konstruct" |
| 02:56.13 | snugglemonk | I think that will build from source on just about anything. |
| 02:56.35 | mattr | Roey: there's probably a guide somewhere. sounds more like a debian specific issue |
| 02:56.52 | mattr | Roey: then again, it could be as simple as adding the right line to your sources.list file. :) |
| 02:56.59 | Roey | well yes I have added that :) |
| 02:57.08 | Roey | I'm just getting this weird broken deps thing |
| 02:57.10 | Roey | that's all |
| 02:57.14 | Roey | I mean I removed kde and all.... |
| 02:57.23 | Roey | oh... do Ihave to change the pinning?? |
| 02:58.42 | mattr | possibly |
| 02:58.56 | snugglemonk | http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/index.html |
| 02:58.57 | Roey | ok |
| 02:58.59 | snugglemonk | doh! |
| 02:59.02 | Roey | snugglemonk: what's that? |
| 02:59.08 | snugglemonk | mattr: looks like you are taking care of him. |
| 02:59.50 | snugglemonk | that is the building application from KDE. I used that succesfully, and I'm fairly unseasoned. |
| 02:59.59 | Roey | ok |
| 03:00.05 | Roey | konstruct never worked for me. |
| 03:00.10 | Roey | I always did it by yhand |
| 03:00.12 | snugglemonk | you could go through the http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_kde3_4.html and it will tell you what you aremissing for your deps |
| 03:00.25 | Roey | but I'm tired of doing it by hand, AND there's no cvs access at the moment. |
| 03:00.32 | snugglemonk | oh, ok. |
| 03:00.32 | Roey | ah, thanks. |
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| 03:01.02 | Roey | hey grimmy |
| 03:01.15 | Roey | MrGrim: do you know how to install the alioth kde preview debs on to debian-amd64?? |
| 03:01.22 | Roey | is a pin priority change required? |
| 03:02.14 | snugglemonk | Hey Roey, did you try on #debian? |
| 03:02.48 | Roey | er |
| 03:03.04 | snugglemonk | I can't remember who uses debian on this channel, but its usualy pretty dead during these hours. |
| 03:03.05 | Roey | I would rather suckle a propane tank than try there |
| 03:03.11 | snugglemonk | HAH! |
| 03:03.19 | Roey | um |
| 03:03.26 | Roey | there are enough unsavory folks there |
| 03:03.35 | Roey | even without me coming in to annoy them. |
| 03:03.53 | snugglemonk | I can ask, I don't mind. what is the question, and I'll go make a fool of myself. It's sort of fun, feel free to watch if you like. |
| 03:04.02 | Roey | hahaha |
| 03:04.05 | Roey | I'm there |
| 03:04.37 | snugglemonk | Roey: what is the exact question again, or should I scroll up? |
| 03:04.48 | Roey | I asked it |
| 03:06.20 | snugglemonk | Roey: best of luck to you. Sounds like that guy knows what he's talking about. |
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| 03:13.56 | Roey | hi |
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| 03:14.41 | mikejn1 | hello |
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| 03:16.26 | mikejn1 | hello |
| 03:17.00 | mikejn1 | needing some help.. with DCOPserver |
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| 03:18.00 | ToiletBrush | what is the default directory for app Icons in KDE? |
| 03:19.07 | mikejn1 | in kde when logging in as a user i getter that says it could not read the network connection list and to check to see the the DCOPserver is running |
| 03:19.25 | mikejn1 | get an error |
| 03:19.51 | mikejn1 | however logging in as root I don't get that error |
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| 03:23.17 | mikejn1 | hi root.. |
| 03:24.00 | thiago | ToiletBrush: $KDEDIRS:$KDEHOME/share/icons |
| 03:24.56 | ToiletBrush | thiago, what is $KDEDIRS typically |
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| 03:25.38 | Octane | I am still struggling with a nasty KDE bug which causes many apps to crash when I past in them.... including all kontact apps, kjots, and Konqueror |
| 03:26.06 | Octane | shouldnt call it a bug cuz it may not be |
| 03:27.16 | slayerbob | has anyone seen canllaith today ? |
| 03:27.58 | Alethes | slayerbob: haven't you heard the news? |
| 03:28.00 | Alethes | :( |
| 03:28.11 | Alethes | heh |
| 03:28.18 | Alethes | ok, being evil for a sec there |
| 03:28.32 | Alethes | she was an hour ago for about 5 mins |
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| 03:30.14 | slayerbob | awww and i missed her :( |
| 03:31.30 | Octane | will an strace help someone help me figure out what the problem is |
| 03:31.40 | Alethes | [22:13:11] <canllaith> I'll find out in a few days how many of them also found that fixed their problem |
| 03:31.42 | alone` | yep most times |
| 03:31.44 | Alethes | that's the last time she said anything |
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| 03:31.57 | Octane | alone`, but its 2 megs! |
| 03:31.57 | Alethes | 23:31:41 now |
| 03:32.00 | slayerbob | yeah i see in the logs |
| 03:32.04 | alone` | lol |
| 03:32.05 | Octane | http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/kmail.txt |
| 03:32.14 | alone` | Octane, just the bottomness! |
| 03:32.20 | Octane | oh okay |
| 03:32.25 | Octane | i will make love to whoever helps me figure it out |
| 03:32.29 | Octane | :DD |
| 03:32.36 | alone` | o.0 |
| 03:32.42 | r00tsh3ll | lol |
| 03:33.13 | mikejn1 | what would cause a DCOPserver error in KDE 3.3 upon a user logging in it saya that it could not read the network connection list and to be sure the DCOPscerver is running |
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| 03:34.16 | mikejn1 | it does not do that when I log in to KDE as root tho |
| 03:34.59 | Tpo1 | omg comcast is pathetic |
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| 03:35.52 | alone` | heh |
| 03:35.58 | alone` | comcast is pwning all its users it seems |
| 03:36.09 | alone` | everyone is saying there dns is fucked |
| 03:36.12 | Roey | how $o? |
| 03:36.23 | Roey | alone`: comcast has slow dns. |
| 03:36.24 | Tpo1 | ya |
| 03:36.28 | Tpo1 | no, down dns |
| 03:36.28 | Roey | alone`: comcast has /really/ slow dns. |
| 03:36.30 | Roey | oh |
| 03:36.39 | Roey | it's causing massive delay. |
| 03:36.39 | Tpo1 | I logged onto here before dns went down... *again* |
| 03:36.40 | Roey | *delays. |
| 03:36.53 | alone` | there fixing stuff allegedly |
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| 03:37.00 | Tpo1 | lol "allegedly" |
| 03:37.17 | Tpo1 | I should call 'em, just to give some tier-1 tech hell |
| 03:37.20 | Octane | okay here is the strace from kjots crashign -- this one is much smaller -- http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/kjots.txt |
| 03:37.30 | alone` | :P |
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| 03:50.36 | Roey | hi, can someone gimme an address from which to wget konstruct? I'm sorta stuck without a web browser at the moment. |
| 03:51.00 | Octane | Roey, http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/ |
| 03:51.35 | Roey | Octane: oh, thank you. |
| 03:51.43 | Roey | Octane: nono I meant a package |
| 03:51.44 | Octane | np |
| 03:51.47 | Roey | Octane: a .tar.gz to download |
| 03:51.48 | Octane | oh okay one sec |
| 03:51.51 | Roey | Octane: I don't have a browser. |
| 03:52.01 | Roey | Octane: firefox segfaults on startup on alioth/amd64 |
| 03:52.02 | Octane | http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/stable/konstruct-stable.tar.bz2 |
| 03:52.07 | Roey | Octane: thanks :) :) |
| 03:54.32 | Roey | alone`, Tpo1: use 205.177.10.10. |
| 03:54.51 | alone` | ? |
| 03:54.54 | alone` | i have verizon |
| 03:54.54 | alone` | lol |
| 03:55.02 | Roey | oh. ok. |
| 03:55.04 | alone` | other people in my channel said it was fscking up |
| 03:55.19 | alone` | the hostmasks of one of them changed |
| 03:55.25 | alone` | from client.comcast.net |
| 03:55.31 | alone` | to hsd1.mi.comcast.net |
| 03:55.38 | alone` | more localized i suppose |
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| 03:57.24 | Roey | ah |
| 03:57.25 | Roey | ok |
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| 04:11.38 | Tpo1 | comcast is back "working." I use the term loosely |
| 04:12.23 | scrooge | haha |
| 04:12.55 | slayerbob | i gather that their current problems are something to do with dns, so you could just use your own dns to avoid the problems :) |
| 04:13.04 | Tpo1 | yes, true |
| 04:13.35 | Tpo1 | I didn't know that there were private NSs available |
| 04:13.48 | Tpo1 | oh wait |
| 04:13.53 | Tpo1 | hmm |
| 04:14.02 | Tpo1 | *looks up BIND* |
| 04:16.01 | slayerbob | lol |
| 04:20.49 | scrooge | aww man |
| 04:20.52 | scrooge | kopete blows |
| 04:24.57 | eisregen | scrooge: I was advised to upgradew to the LATEST libxml and libxslt versions to fix Kopete crashing ... I did not try yet though =) |
| 04:25.35 | mattr | scrooge: yeah, nice description there. really helps the devs nail down the problem. ;) |
| 04:27.17 | scrooge | mattr, u already know my problem |
| 04:27.21 | scrooge | eisregen, doesnt crash here :) |
| 04:27.42 | mattr | scrooge: user error? ;) |
| 04:28.18 | scrooge | nah the closing im windows thing...somebody said it 'might' be fixed in cvs |
| 04:29.38 | mattr | hehe, just giving you a hard time. :) |
| 04:30.57 | eisregen | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22720 <- this is soooooooo cool =D unfortunately not working for cervisia view =/ |
| 04:32.13 | scrooge | mattr, :P |
| 04:32.15 | scrooge | tis cool |
| 04:32.20 | scrooge | brb..ut2k4 time again |
| 04:32.34 | scrooge | these guys dont know who i am...think they can beat me |
| 04:32.36 | scrooge | MWAHAHAHAHA |
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| 04:34.34 | slayerbob | they don't know that you are scrooge ? |
| 04:34.39 | slayerbob | did you stealth your name or something ? |
| 04:34.43 | scrooge | lol |
| 04:34.50 | scrooge | they dont know that they cant beat me :) |
| 04:34.58 | scrooge | not even 2 on 1 capture the flag :) |
| 04:35.01 | slayerbob | maybe they will surprise you |
| 04:35.33 | scrooge | never |
| 04:35.37 | scrooge | :P |
| 04:35.41 | scrooge | i wish they would :/ |
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| 04:36.22 | slayerbob | heh i love the way that 31% of people voting in the "What you think of surveys" vote on planetkde have voted "Never fill out" |
| 04:36.35 | slayerbob | what did they imagine they were doing in selecting that box ? :P |
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| 04:37.14 | thr1ce | anyway to not have about 20 "kdeinit: kio_http" open when I use konq ? |
| 04:37.28 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 04:37.40 | Dhraakellian | having a little trouble with kio_ftp and filezilla |
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| 04:38.32 | Dhraakellian | <server owner> when it's trying to rename [stuff] it's sending a command RNFR |
| 04:38.32 | Dhraakellian | which my server doesn't even recognize as a valid command |
| 04:38.53 | Dhraakellian | would this be a problem with kio_ftp or with her server? |
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| 04:48.32 | CyBuX | somebody know what is the name of the channel kde hispan to access on irc? |
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| 05:01.08 | illogic-al | i don't think there is one |
| 05:01.14 | illogic-al | except for debian |
| 05:01.19 | illogic-al | #mandriva |
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| 05:22.12 | Dhraakellian | of the dozing konqi |
| 05:22.32 | Dhraakellian | an online copy thereof is what I'm looking for |
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| 06:23.06 | canllaith | hehehe: http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20010706.html |
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| 06:25.05 | slayerbob | LOL |
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| 06:33.23 | canllaith | http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20020514.html |
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| 06:36.29 | marcusU | Ugh. I can't find any really well-supported SATA chipsets under Linux. Looks like I stick with SCSI in my new box. |
| 06:36.40 | slayerbob | MFM :) |
| 06:36.50 | slayerbob | it's all the rage :P |
| 06:37.36 | marcusU | huh? |
| 06:37.42 | slayerbob | MFM hard drives |
| 06:37.50 | slayerbob | they are horrendously fast |
| 06:38.24 | physos_ | slayerbob: Yeah, I have some of them here. They are really worth their money. |
| 06:38.28 | slayerbob | :P |
| 06:38.38 | marcusU | No, they are not. |
| 06:38.39 | physos_ | slayerbob: no better doostop for my safe |
| 06:38.44 | slayerbob | heh |
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| 06:38.45 | physos_ | doorstop. |
| 06:39.01 | slayerbob | i have some full height ones around here somewhere |
| 06:39.07 | slayerbob | we found them the last time we moved :P |
| 06:39.16 | slayerbob | actually i think some of them are ide |
| 06:39.49 | slayerbob | we were going to make a raid array out of 4 10MB IDE drives :P |
| 06:39.56 | slayerbob | but never got around to it :( |
| 06:44.36 | physos_ | http://physos.net/~physos/images/hdds.jpg |
| 06:45.01 | physos_ | the right one is the MFM. Still tryingto figure out the let ones capacity. |
| 06:45.09 | physos_ | the platine is missing. |
| 06:46.18 | physos_ | ah, found it, 2.13GB |
| 06:48.28 | physos_ | me still wonders about the price of a 2.1GB SCSI drive in 1995 |
| 06:51.22 | ponto | physos_: you had a preliminary kde 3.4 feature guide with some flash videos, is this site still around? |
| 06:52.16 | physos_ | ponto: yes, it is. It will get finished this weekend. |
| 06:52.39 | ponto | physos_: ah, i'm looking forward |
| 06:53.12 | physos_ | ponto: http://ktown.kde.org/~endres/feature-guide/ for a older version. |
| 06:53.37 | physos_ | ponto: which is totaly broken in IE. |
| 06:53.47 | ponto | physos_: no problem for me. thanks |
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| 06:54.35 | LittleWashu | Hello |
| 06:54.42 | LittleWashu | would anyone know how to clear the history in kde? |
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| 06:55.39 | ponto | LittleWashu: in kde 3.4 there is "History Sidebar" in konqueor's settings |
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| 06:56.18 | jStylies | i'm wondering if I can save konqueror's 'view filter' in a profile. |
| 06:56.41 | tux75 | Hi! |
| 06:57.05 | LittleWashu | history sidebar |
| 06:57.08 | tux75 | i'm finding for an italian localization of kde3.3. do you know, where i can find it? |
| 06:58.07 | ponto | tux75: did you compile from source? |
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| 06:58.39 | tux75 | no, i've installed the linuxos distro that use kde3.3 |
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| 06:59.25 | ponto | tux75: then search your distro's package database for kde-i18n-it |
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| 07:07.34 | LittleWashu | does anyone know where the kde root folder is? |
| 07:08.33 | tux75 | are you finding for /root / .kde |
| 07:08.41 | tux75 | (without spaces) |
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| 07:10.45 | scrooge | OMFG MY EARSSSSSS |
| 07:10.54 | scrooge | jesuss |
| 07:11.04 | scrooge | load kopete without a live net connection |
| 07:11.24 | scrooge | instant need for hearing aid |
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| 07:12.56 | mustasj | morning all |
| 07:13.09 | tux75 | hi mustasj |
| 07:16.11 | LittleWashu | does anyone know where the kde keeps it's $ash files? |
| 07:16.30 | jStylies | is there a command like: kfmclient openProfile someProfile "with viewFilter *.mpg"? |
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| 07:18.01 | Codename_V | hi guys. what would cause evolution to start up when I start kde? and more importantly, how would I turn that off? |
| 07:20.05 | mustasj | Codename_V: You probably logged out with evolution open, so it's restoring your previous session |
| 07:20.36 | Codename_V | mustasj: well the actual evolution window doesn't open up. just the evolution alarm thingy |
| 07:20.45 | Codename_V | I mean, I see that running when I run ps |
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| 07:21.47 | mustasj | I don't know what the evolution alarm thing is, but if it's something KDE starts you should see it in .kde/share/config/session |
| 07:21.56 | Codename_V | k |
| 07:22.47 | Codename_V | hmm, nothing in there |
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| 07:27.54 | mustasj | Codename_V: Not sure then |
| 07:28.09 | Codename_V | yeah, it's cool, thanks anyway. |
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| 07:28.32 | Codename_V | I'm thinking maybe if I just kill it before I log out, or try that start with an empty session thingy, maybe somethign will happen |
| 07:28.42 | Codename_V | cant really log out at the moment though... |
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| 08:44.18 | neoclust | can i ask a question about libraries ? |
| 08:45.06 | raphinou | any info about the progress of Mozilla qt? (I read http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/non-kde-apps.html ;-) |
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| 08:48.56 | debianer | ? |
| 08:50.32 | TinoW | ¿ |
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| 09:08.41 | peratu | Hi. |
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| 09:10.30 | scrooge | hi |
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| 09:31.44 | chakie | anyone happen to know if i can redefine some of its convenience functions? |
| 09:32.10 | chakie | such as the code inserted by "Image inclusion"? |
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| 09:55.19 | GNAM | when I overwrite a file that i'm editing with kate, does kate ask to me something similar "the file is changed... reload?" |
| 09:55.29 | GNAM | gedit NO |
| 09:56.50 | GNAM | is kate part of kde 3.4? |
| 09:57.26 | kottlett_ | yes/yes |
| 09:57.57 | GNAM | wow |
| 09:58.20 | GNAM | there's only windows program that rulez: ULTRAEDIT |
| 09:58.29 | GNAM | i haven't find nothing similar on linux |
| 09:58.40 | GNAM | now i'll try kate |
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| 09:59.58 | Biennium | I'm finding Emacs to be disgustingly versatile. |
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| 10:00.24 | scrooge | heh |
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| 10:15.25 | lauri | well now that was annoying |
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| 10:15.58 | scrooge | SORRY! |
| 10:16.03 | scrooge | blame konversation! |
| 10:16.06 | scrooge | :( |
| 10:16.10 | scrooge | im in xchat now |
| 10:17.07 | markey | I think that's fixed in the latest konvi |
| 10:17.07 | scrooge | :(( |
| 10:17.12 | scrooge | im using cvs |
| 10:17.17 | markey | oh oh |
| 10:17.21 | scrooge | yea :/ |
| 10:17.34 | scrooge | just rebuilt it like not 3 minutes ago |
| 10:17.42 | markey | this bug got many users banned already ;) |
| 10:17.54 | scrooge | heh...sorry :) |
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| 10:18.05 | scrooge | its hard to tell in konvi tho |
| 10:18.13 | scrooge | no way of seeing your disconnected |
| 10:18.19 | scrooge | only the chanserv notices |
| 10:18.22 | LittleWashu | :0( |
| 10:18.41 | scrooge | heh |
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| 10:22.00 | recurs|ve | i have a question about konqueror and linuxpluginwrapper, how do i get realplayer to work??? |
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| 10:28.39 | Papyrus | hello |
| 10:28.56 | Papyrus | why my desktop icon placement won't stay the same each time i login |
| 10:28.57 | Papyrus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.24 | thiago | because we have a bug |
| 10:32.38 | scrooge | lol |
| 10:32.48 | Papyrus | seriously |
| 10:33.06 | scrooge | *n0d* |
| 10:33.13 | Papyrus | :/ |
| 10:33.24 | Papyrus | well...it looks ok on kde 3.3.1 |
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| 10:36.45 | lauri | ping thiago |
| 10:37.11 | lauri | do you take care of the proxy kcontrol module? (if not you, does anyone?) |
| 10:38.15 | lauri | (it's safe to admit it, I want to close a bug for you :) |
| 10:38.26 | Papyrus | ....... |
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| 10:38.39 | Papyrus | so, how to ovecome this desktop icon prob ? |
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| 10:47.42 | evilras | with kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ? |
| 10:49.21 | thiago | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.33 | lauri | hey, there you are :) |
| 10:49.35 | scrooge | bad day |
| 10:49.36 | evilras | baad. |
| 10:49.37 | thiago | lauri: I don't know who takes care of it |
| 10:49.41 | lauri | thiago: proxy kcm? |
| 10:49.47 | thiago | not me for sure :) |
| 10:49.55 | lauri | thiago: heh, I don't think anyone *does* |
| 10:49.57 | thiago | what is it? |
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| 10:50.21 | _yannux | plop |
| 10:50.33 | lauri | which may explain the bug I want to fix: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95534 |
| 10:51.29 | lauri | I just want to make sure I have the logic of that the right way around (and can change the What's This to match what the GUI is actually doing) |
| 10:51.29 | thiago | fix the docs |
| 10:51.42 | thiago | the exceptions is a list of hosts and patterns |
| 10:51.44 | thiago | not URLs |
| 10:52.14 | lauri | right, that's what the doc says |
| 10:52.28 | lauri | it's the what's this that's wrong now |
| 10:52.28 | thiago | I don't know if it takes wildcards or not... |
| 10:52.36 | lauri | heh, me either |
| 10:52.50 | lauri | (well, I know it takes them, I don't know if they have any kind of effect) |
| 10:54.30 | lauri | preferably not involving either of those words |
| 10:55.55 | lauri | "... when one of the hosts or patterns listed here matches the URL you are attempting to access" (I think that's really what it says now, it's just really unclear) |
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| 10:59.17 | thiago | heh |
| 10:59.22 | thiago | that would probably be best |
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| 11:11.09 | StevenR | I'm trying to compile kat, but make fails with this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/chHcDE27.html can anyone help me fix it so it compiles? |
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| 11:11.37 | Xirzon | does anyone know if I can make kompare use UTF-8? |
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| 11:13.24 | philpem | Hi folks. I've just installed Slackware 10.1 (KDE ver. 3.3.2) and I'm having a little trouble with the Win-key. |
| 11:13.43 | philpem | If I turn numlock on, the winkey no longer pops up the K menu. If I turn numlock off again it works fine |
| 11:14.34 | thiago | philpem: that feature is problematic |
| 11:14.40 | thiago | unfortunately, there's no solution |
| 11:14.46 | thiago | it has been removed from KDE 3.4.0 |
| 11:15.24 | StevenR | philpem: you can use the kde 3.4 packages from slackware -current |
| 11:15.36 | philpem | what do you mean "it's been removed"? |
| 11:15.39 | scrooge | heh |
| 11:15.51 | thiago | philpem: what it said: the feature has been removed |
| 11:15.58 | thiago | the Win key no longer will open the K menu |
| 11:16.01 | philpem | ok |
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| 11:16.31 | philpem | I actually wanted to use the win-key to pop up the K menu, just a little annoyed that it won't work if numlock is enabled |
| 11:17.40 | thiago | in other words, it's buggy in KDE 3.3 and doesn't even exist in KDE 3.4 |
| 11:18.02 | scrooge | eh heh |
| 11:18.07 | scrooge | it can be mapped tho right? |
| 11:18.24 | scrooge | only thing mapped to my winkey atm is the amaroK controls :P |
| 11:18.26 | thiago | no |
| 11:18.29 | scrooge | :O |
| 11:18.35 | thiago | it can be mapped as Win+something |
| 11:18.37 | thiago | but not Win alone |
| 11:18.42 | scrooge | oh :/ |
| 11:18.49 | scrooge | thats just wrong :( |
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| 11:20.32 | coachz | Can anyone help me with window size management, i'm in kde 3.3.2 and all the child windows like "download" windows in firefox open huge and I can't make them stay smaller without the whole app getting smaller |
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| 11:21.47 | philpem | oh well, at least svn works (after a day spent hacking my buildscripts - hint: running ./autogen.sh before configure helps) |
| 11:22.02 | coachz | it's the little things |
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| 11:22.25 | philpem | yep. the little annoyances seem to cause all the trouble :/ |
| 11:22.52 | coachz | Sherlock Holmes said the details are infinitely the most important. |
| 11:22.56 | philpem | and the guys who write makefiles that ignore DESTDIR= and prefix= |
| 11:26.06 | coachz | How to add bookmarks to the file dialog window? |
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| 11:29.21 | neoclust | is there any Konversation dev here ? |
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| 11:31.13 | SchopfeR | neoclust: #konversation |
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| 11:31.23 | neoclust | SchopfeR: thanks a lot |
| 11:31.28 | SchopfeR | de rien :) |
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| 11:45.44 | scrooge | will cvs plastik work with kde release? |
| 11:45.46 | scrooge | *G* |
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| 11:50.22 | lauri | coachz: just drag 'em over to the sidebar |
| 11:50.24 | lauri | or right click |
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| 11:52.38 | mikejn1 | morning all |
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| 11:54.23 | mikejn1 | Can someone help with a problem in KDE regarding the DCOP server? |
| 11:55.10 | scrooge | if u ask they can help :P |
| 11:55.23 | mikejn1 | ok.. |
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| 11:57.57 | mikejn1 | ok when I log in as a user into KDE I am getting an error setting up interprocess communications for KDE, could not read network connection list //.DCOPserver_gentoo_o |
| 11:58.21 | mikejn1 | please check to see that the DCOPserver is running |
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| 11:58.29 | scrooge | hmm |
| 11:58.46 | mikejn1 | I don't get that if I log in as root.. |
| 11:59.16 | scrooge | $ ls -ls `which dcop` |
| 11:59.16 | scrooge | 112 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 111424 Mar 31 01:11 /usr/kde/3.4/bin/dcop |
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| 12:00.28 | mikejn1 | bear with me I am a noob ok? |
| 12:00.49 | scrooge | heh |
| 12:00.56 | scrooge | ls -ls `which dcop` <----run that command |
| 12:02.26 | scrooge | hmm...i also have that file: 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 pankey users 36 Apr 8 05:02 .DCOPserver_gentrino_:0 -> /home/pankey/.DCOPserver_gentrino__0 |
| 12:02.34 | scrooge | symlinked |
| 12:02.44 | scrooge | :0 means X display xero im guessing |
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| 12:04.32 | mikejn1 | when I do ls -ls 'which dcop' I get an error |
| 12:04.35 | coachz | Is there a way to add bookmarks to the file dialog window? |
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| 12:05.05 | lauri | coachz: drag the folder you want to bookmark to the left hand pane |
| 12:05.13 | lauri | or, right click there and choose one |
| 12:05.22 | coachz | hmm, let me try that |
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| 12:05.27 | lauri | pick an icon, if you want (you don't have to) and make it only for that app if you want (you don't have to) |
| 12:05.57 | coachz | i don't have a left hand pane in firefox save as |
| 12:06.35 | TinoW | is this compiled in? |
| 12:06.45 | StevenR | TinoW: how do you mean extend? |
| 12:06.47 | lauri | http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdebase/kate/highlight.html |
| 12:07.01 | lauri | you could read the Kate Handbook, where it's all nicely documented for you |
| 12:07.11 | mschiff | What can be the reason if I cannot configure the font that konqui uses under icons? its always the same (very small) font even if I zoom the window... |
| 12:07.12 | TinoW | StevenR: err. I dont know how to say it different? |
| 12:07.15 | lauri | (help:/kate if you want to read it locally) |
| 12:07.25 | coachz | lauri, so i'm in Firefox Save as dialog box and i want a shortcut to my directory |
| 12:07.37 | StevenR | TinoW: what do you want to extend it to do? |
| 12:07.41 | lauri | coachz: this is a KDE channel |
| 12:07.49 | lauri | coachz: I assumed you were asking about KDE file dialogs |
| 12:07.55 | coachz | isn't firefox using KDE file dialogs in KDE ? |
| 12:08.03 | lauri | coachz: I don't know how, or even if, firefox can do that, you'd best ask in #firefox |
| 12:08.05 | lauri | and no, it is not |
| 12:08.13 | coachz | what a crappy app |
| 12:08.26 | TinoW | StevenR: to add mime types to highlight |
| 12:08.30 | StevenR | coachz: firefox doesn't use kde file dialogs, cos it's not a kde app |
| 12:08.30 | coachz | thanks lauri |
| 12:08.43 | coachz | i see Opera doesn't either |
| 12:08.43 | lauri | TinoW: read the url I just gave you, that is how you do it |
| 12:08.51 | TinoW | StevenR: I'd also like it to detect mime-type via webdav, but thats another thing... ;) |
| 12:08.53 | coachz | what junk |
| 12:08.57 | lauri | opera is not a kde application either |
| 12:09.05 | lauri | if you want KDE features, use KDE applications |
| 12:09.16 | StevenR | TinoW: you just add a new filetype.xml file, kate's help tells you and you can look at the existing xml files |
| 12:09.19 | lauri | calling them junk won't help |
| 12:09.28 | coachz | if KDE had a browser that i liked i could |
| 12:09.42 | StevenR | TinoW: they aren't compiled in, just simply xml files |
| 12:09.51 | TinoW | StevenR: I just wonder why I didnt see the definition for the included highlites... |
| 12:10.05 | StevenR | TinoW: eh? |
| 12:11.00 | TinoW | StevenR: dpkg -L kate does not show any files which look like they are responsible for highlight |
| 12:11.06 | coachz | lauri, it saves me therapy bills |
| 12:11.17 | lauri | TinoW: do you see this? |
| 12:11.24 | coachz | but thank you lauri |
| 12:11.25 | lauri | or am I on ignore |
| 12:11.31 | coachz | i just have to learn to live with crap |
| 12:11.47 | StevenR | TinoW: i have no idea about debain package management. |
| 12:12.14 | TinoW | lauri: err, yes I'm reading the help. Thank you. I hope somewhere at the end there is a section which tells me where to save the files :) |
| 12:12.33 | lauri | http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdebase/kate/katehighlight-xml-format.html |
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| 12:12.40 | lauri | tells you wehre they are, it is the next page after the one I gave you |
| 12:13.07 | lauri | as always with KDE applications, you can substitute $KDEHOME for $KDEDIR to add a per-user only file |
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| 12:13.38 | mikejn1 | what is the name of the kde screen savers if I wanted to emerge them? |
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| 12:13.50 | lauri | mikejn1: you'll have to ask in a #gentoo channel |
| 12:13.59 | TinoW | lauri: uh. must have been blind :-) |
| 12:14.04 | mikejn1 | ok |
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| 12:14.28 | mikejn1 | #gentoo?? on the freenode? |
| 12:14.42 | TinoW | lauri: do you know why kate seems to ignore the filetypes when they come via webdav? And charset too? |
| 12:14.52 | lauri | I don't know (I don't even know if they have one, i just know we can't answer your question here) |
| 12:15.00 | lauri | TinoW: you need to talk to sredna I think |
| 12:15.17 | TinoW | lauri: ok, thanks :-)) |
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| 12:28.05 | TinoW | ah. its in katepart, not kate... |
| 12:28.25 | simmerz | im trying to get pmount working so i dont get the "unexpected error" message when i try to mount my dvd drive |
| 12:28.48 | simmerz | ive set up according to the howto at: http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS |
| 12:29.00 | simmerz | but it still doesn't work. still get the error message |
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| 12:44.36 | Pointwood | anyone able to help me with getting the right character set in Konsole? |
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| 12:48.16 | annma | Pointwood: what's happening? |
| 12:49.48 | annma | rejected? |
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| 12:49.56 | annma | what is KPackage? |
| 12:50.04 | annma | is it better than ark? |
| 12:50.23 | apokryphos | A pretty decent package manager for a number of different package managers (apt, rpm etc.) |
| 12:50.24 | Pointwood | annma: well I'm danish (da) and would like to use the special danish characters in Konsole, it works in the rest of KDE, but not in Konsole |
| 12:50.41 | annma | what font do you use? |
| 12:51.00 | annma | did you read the konsole handbook? |
| 12:51.11 | apokryphos | Like even in the interview wth A. Seigo Kynaptic is mentioned -- i only found out about KPackage recently. Pretty unknown, on the whole, even though it's *far* more advanced than kynaptic |
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| 12:53.39 | scrooge | kpackage b0rks portage |
| 12:53.50 | scrooge | think they said cvs fixed the problems |
| 12:54.05 | Pointwood | annma: don't know what font I use, where do I see that? |
| 12:54.10 | scrooge | yea yea, "blah gentoo, who cares!" :P |
| 12:54.27 | apokryphos | Not at all; that's one of its features so they should work on it |
| 12:54.43 | scrooge | *nod* |
| 12:54.46 | annma | scrooge: why would gentoo need kpackage anyway? |
| 12:54.46 | apokryphos | I was impressed by how many package management systems it attempts to handle though |
| 12:54.55 | scrooge | annma, portage frontend |
| 12:54.58 | apokryphos | Doesn't need it, but it's a graphical option |
| 12:55.03 | scrooge | yea |
| 12:55.04 | annma | kinaptic is not in kde official? |
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| 12:55.15 | annma | why would gentoo need a gui? |
| 12:55.19 | scrooge | gentoo also has kuroo which is NICE |
| 12:55.26 | scrooge | couple bugs tho |
| 12:55.29 | apokryphos | Nope, but *everyone* has heard of it, and it seems as though if work is going to be done, it's going to be on that which I find weird |
| 12:55.34 | scrooge | annma, lol |
| 12:55.41 | scrooge | annma, why do people need kde? ;P |
| 12:56.03 | annma | scrooge: well people who think they compile can do without a GUI |
| 12:56.06 | apokryphos | KPackage here aims for dpkg/rpm/bsd/slackware/gentoo etc. |
| 12:56.23 | scrooge | eh heh... |
| 12:56.25 | scrooge | oh boy |
| 12:56.25 | annma | apokryphos: I am not sure this is an app to be INSIDE kde |
| 12:56.50 | annma | yeah and /me goes back to the command line compilationand real control and knowledge |
| 12:57.04 | apokryphos | It was mentioned as "one of the things on the list" |
| 12:57.08 | apokryphos | " I was actually going to bring up Kynaptic because I think it's a good example. We've identified it as an issue. We've got kind of an internal laundry list, internal to the Appeal project, of things that we want to address and things we'd love to see be addressed. And this is one of the things on that list." |
| 12:57.33 | annma | apokryphos: we'll see but with new distros emerging here and there it's a difficult app |
| 12:57.48 | apokryphos | Yup, I totally agree. |
| 12:58.21 | apokryphos | which makes KPackage's attempts here remarkable ;-) |
| 12:59.14 | annma | yeah but maybe not in official |
| 12:59.17 | annma | in keg though |
| 12:59.58 | annma | Pointwood: Konsole -> Settings -> Font |
| 13:00.05 | apokryphos | Yah. Still wonder why no-one has heard of it; it's a conspiracy. =) |
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| 13:01.02 | annma | apokryphos: is it in kde-apps? |
| 13:01.21 | annma | apokryphos: lobby at the distros so they package it!!! |
| 13:01.25 | apokryphos | just searched: nope |
| 13:01.26 | Pointwood | annma: medium |
| 13:01.32 | ExElNeT | any idea how to fix this artsd problem? http://pastebin.com/268808 |
| 13:01.41 | apokryphos | it's in the Debian/Ubuntu repositories, though I actually doubt it's in others |
| 13:01.55 | annma | Pointwood: medium is NOT a font |
| 13:01.56 | apokryphos | well, for Gentoo it is :P |
| 13:02.02 | Pointwood | annma: true :) |
| 13:02.36 | scrooge | yea we have it :) |
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| 13:02.54 | Pointwood | courier |
| 13:02.55 | scrooge | kde-base/kpackage |
| 13:03.08 | coachz | Is konqueror the only browser in KDE that uses the KDE file dialog box ? |
| 13:03.19 | Pointwood | annma: courier new to be precise |
| 13:03.48 | annma | Pointwood: change to Bitstream for ex |
| 13:03.59 | scrooge | luxi mono :P |
| 13:04.02 | Aarcane | how much Memory can I expect KDE to be using on my system, a P3 1Ghz with 512 MB ram |
| 13:04.31 | scrooge | Aarcane, linux as a whole should be using up all your memory minus maybe 5MB |
| 13:04.33 | coachz | prolly 200mb i'd guess |
| 13:04.42 | Aarcane | wow, that's alot |
| 13:04.42 | scrooge | with the caching and such |
| 13:04.47 | scrooge | lol |
| 13:04.53 | scrooge | you'd rather it not be used? |
| 13:04.56 | coachz | how do i upgrade my KDE in debian to the new 3.4. i'm on 3.3.2 |
| 13:05.00 | Pointwood | annma: no change |
| 13:05.16 | Aarcane | yeah.. caching.. I do kinda dislike caching and high memory footprints, which is why I'm switching to Linux in the first place |
| 13:05.20 | annma | Pointwood: so what is your exact problem? |
| 13:05.32 | scrooge | Aarcane, linux uses it efficiently |
| 13:06.10 | scrooge | RAM is much faster then a HD so i'd rather use that as much as possible then have it empty |
| 13:06.20 | Pointwood | annma: well, in DK we got 3 special characters ('æ ø å' - not sure you can see them correctly), and I would like to be able to type them in Konsole |
| 13:06.25 | scrooge | or half full, etc |
| 13:06.40 | annma | Pointwood: set your IRC client to utf8 as a start |
| 13:06.45 | Aarcane | scrooge, last time I ran KDE was a while ago, I ran into issues with too much RAM in use to do much of anything else with any efficiency |
| 13:07.02 | scrooge | Aarcane, then dont use linux |
| 13:07.05 | annma | Pointwood: I see sqaures for your chars |
| 13:07.06 | scrooge | cuz thats wat linux does |
| 13:07.09 | coachz | Aarcane, it's still fat |
| 13:07.11 | scrooge | uses its resources |
| 13:07.19 | annma | Pointwood: éçà ê |
| 13:07.21 | coachz | 512 is a good start though |
| 13:07.27 | annma | Pointwood: do you see that? |
| 13:07.31 | Pointwood | yes |
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| 13:07.32 | scrooge | Aarcane, it knows when to swap out and free up resources inteligently |
| 13:07.33 | Aarcane | scrooge, right now I'm contemplating between KDE and Other WMs that I know from experience run better on my System... |
| 13:07.35 | Pointwood | wierd characters |
| 13:07.40 | annma | Pointwood: well I don't see yours |
| 13:07.46 | annma | wierd how? |
| 13:07.48 | scrooge | Aarcane, cpu? |
| 13:07.53 | annma | Pointwood: these are french chars |
| 13:07.55 | Aarcane | scrooge, P3 1Ghz |
| 13:07.55 | annma | accents |
| 13:08.02 | annma | Pointwood: iyou don't see them then |
| 13:08.13 | annma | Pointwood: pout your IRC client in utf8 |
| 13:08.22 | scrooge | Aarcane, thats not bad for kde. if u wanna try other stuff with like 0 features, fluxbox is nice |
| 13:08.28 | Pointwood | done |
| 13:08.34 | Pointwood | æøå |
| 13:08.37 | scrooge | but you'll still use about 95% RAM due to caching :) |
| 13:08.43 | Pointwood | can you see them now? |
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| 13:09.18 | Aarcane | scrooge, fluxbox is nice, but it's ugly.. I've got my one lazy eye following enlightenment around the screenshot archives.. |
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| 13:09.37 | scrooge | Aarcane, ahh...i've played with e16 and e17. this nice |
| 13:09.45 | lauri | apples and oranges |
| 13:09.45 | scrooge | s/this/tis/ |
| 13:09.54 | scrooge | lauri, im not comparing to kde |
| 13:09.57 | Pointwood | annma: æøå |
| 13:09.58 | lauri | KDE includes a window manager, you're quite able to replace it with another if you really want |
| 13:09.59 | Aarcane | scrooge, I've used at least one of the two, not sure which though.. |
| 13:10.03 | Pointwood | annma: that's 3 danish characters |
| 13:10.16 | scrooge | Aarcane, probly 16 |
| 13:10.20 | annma | Pointwood: that's better |
| 13:10.21 | scrooge | 17 is cvs builds |
| 13:10.24 | lauri | don't poke the lauri, she bites |
| 13:10.41 | Aarcane | lauri, how well does KDE WM replacement work ? what features of the interface go byebye and which stay ? |
| 13:10.46 | annma | Pointwood: if you paste them in konsole they don't show??? |
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| 13:11.06 | scrooge | heh |
| 13:11.20 | Pointwood | annma: exactly |
| 13:11.26 | lauri | well, the window management, of course |
| 13:11.35 | annma | Pointwood: did you try right now? |
| 13:11.58 | lauri | you won't get KDE window decorations, focus management, etc |
| 13:12.02 | scrooge | the kicker |
| 13:12.06 | lauri | keybindings |
| 13:12.14 | Pointwood | annma: yes |
| 13:12.14 | lauri | kicker is nothing to do with the window manager |
| 13:12.28 | annma | Pointwood: what appears then? |
| 13:12.28 | scrooge | kicker can run under fluxbox? |
| 13:12.31 | scrooge | nice |
| 13:12.34 | lauri | of course it can |
| 13:12.41 | annma | scrooge: of course |
| 13:12.51 | scrooge | *shrug* |
| 13:12.51 | Pointwood | nothing |
| 13:13.00 | annma | Pointwood: your distro is what? |
| 13:13.02 | scrooge | xfce started some kde services crap |
| 13:13.04 | Pointwood | kubuntu |
| 13:13.11 | scrooge | dunno bout flux |
| 13:13.31 | annma | Pointwood: echo $LANG |
| 13:13.37 | annma | paste result |
| 13:13.52 | Aarcane | lauri, so what's the biggest consumer of resources in KDE ? is it the Window Manager or the Other Stuff ? |
| 13:13.57 | Pointwood | annma: C |
| 13:14.08 | annma | Pointwood: C is not a language |
| 13:14.14 | Pointwood | that's what it writes |
| 13:14.18 | lauri | kwin's just about the smallest tightest window manager out there |
| 13:14.23 | annma | echo $LANGUAGE |
| 13:14.34 | Pointwood | same |
| 13:14.38 | lauri | honestly, go run it as a standalone window manager (put 'kwin' instead of startkde in your .xinitrc) |
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| 13:14.50 | gaio | re all |
| 13:14.50 | Pointwood | that is wierd |
| 13:15.04 | gaio | how can i set with ubuntu my language |
| 13:15.04 | lauri | C is a locale |
| 13:15.08 | annma | Pointwood: go in kcontrol and see what language your kde is |
| 13:15.12 | lauri | it's the default locale, which usually means en_US |
| 13:15.17 | gaio | i mean switch to another language |
| 13:15.22 | annma | gaio: kcontrol |
| 13:15.35 | annma | Pointwood: do you want your kde in danish? |
| 13:15.42 | annma | the menus and all? |
| 13:15.49 | Pointwood | annma: country is set to Denmark, but language is US-english |
| 13:15.50 | lauri | gaio: first install another language, change it in KControl (for KDE) and set the LC_ALL in the shell to change it to something else in shells |
| 13:15.53 | lauri | da_DK for danish probably |
| 13:16.01 | annma | Pointwood: do you want it in danish???? |
| 13:16.02 | Pointwood | annma: no, I want it in english |
| 13:16.28 | gaio | how can install other language? |
| 13:16.35 | gaio | sorry for my lameness.. |
| 13:16.51 | annma | gaio: install the kde-i18n/language_name package |
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| 13:17.29 | gaio | from? |
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| 13:17.51 | sonoud | hi, is that possible to ask superkarama not to show on all the desktops but only one? |
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| 13:18.49 | lauri | Pointwood: in a shell, try locale -a (I think) |
| 13:19.15 | lauri | find one that's en_US and utf-8, set LC_ALL to that in your shell, see if you get what you're after |
| 13:19.21 | annma | Pointwood: and issue a bug report for kunbuntu |
| 13:19.33 | Pointwood | yeah |
| 13:19.35 | lauri | if you do, set that in your shell initialisation files |
| 13:19.54 | Pointwood | lauri: that gives me a list, incl. da.DK |
| 13:20.02 | Pointwood | * da_DK |
| 13:20.02 | lauri | LC_ALL sets all the locale environment variables |
| 13:20.16 | Pointwood | where/how do I set that? |
| 13:20.34 | lauri | if you set LANG to da_DK you'll get things like make messages and shell error messages in danish, which can be annoying |
| 13:20.43 | lauri | open a konsole |
| 13:20.56 | Pointwood | yeah, I don't want that |
| 13:21.01 | Pointwood | got a konsole :) |
| 13:21.03 | lauri | set the environment variable however you normally do in a shell |
| 13:21.17 | lauri | (bash? I think that's just EXPORT LC_ALL da_DK |
| 13:21.17 | Pointwood | erhm... :p |
| 13:21.43 | lauri | (let's just set 'em all for now, we can tweak it in a bit, first see if that lets you type in danish |
| 13:22.40 | Pointwood | nope |
| 13:22.51 | lauri | maybe you need an = in there |
| 13:23.05 | lauri | someone here must be using bash heh |
| 13:23.21 | Pointwood | echo $LANG still gives me C too |
| 13:23.37 | lauri | LC_ALL=da_DK; export LANG |
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| 13:24.32 | Pointwood | nope |
| 13:24.45 | lauri | nope what? |
| 13:24.49 | Pointwood | no change |
| 13:25.05 | lauri | heh, see what I did? stupid typo |
| 13:25.14 | Pointwood | but if I just run export I get: declare -x da_DK |
| 13:25.19 | lauri | LC_ALL=da_DK; export LC_ALL :) |
| 13:25.35 | Pointwood | I also got: declare -x GDM_LANG="C" |
| 13:25.45 | lauri | k, I have to run, go get my daughter from dagis |
| 13:25.50 | Pointwood | k |
| 13:25.53 | lauri | ehm, preschool |
| 13:25.55 | lauri | http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2378/swol-062300-unix101/ |
| 13:26.15 | lauri | scroll to the bottom of that (it also tells you how to set the messages from the shell back to english, if that's what you're after) |
| 13:26.31 | Pointwood | ok, thx |
| 13:27.31 | ExElNeT | whats the name of the kde recorder? |
| 13:27.32 | lauri | (you might have something for your distro especially, I see some have a setlocale interactive thingy |
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| 13:27.55 | lauri | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/postlfs/profile.html (scroll down in there, tells you how to set it up for bash so it's always on too) |
| 13:28.03 | lauri | ok, going now :) |
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| 13:33.29 | dolphin | k3b dies when I try to burn a xbox iso... |
| 13:35.37 | annma | xbox? |
| 13:35.44 | annma | is it different from another iso? |
| 13:37.48 | scrooge | heh |
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| 13:41.48 | cbcbcb | has anyone been able to compile the 3.4 branch from svn? |
| 13:43.26 | annma | svn is not ready yet |
| 13:43.59 | annma | cbcbcb: what is the problem you have? |
| 13:44.57 | annma | cbcbcb: ping |
| 13:45.00 | cbcbcb | kdirwatch.h is complete garbage and doesn't compile |
| 13:45.19 | annma | where did you see that svn should be ready? |
| 13:45.31 | annma | kdirwatch? which module? |
| 13:45.43 | cbcbcb | kdelibs/kio/kio |
| 13:45.49 | annma | error? |
| 13:45.54 | annma | in a paste bin |
| 13:46.00 | annma | where did you see that svn should be ready? |
| 13:46.06 | cbcbcb | paste bin??? |
| 13:46.22 | cbcbcb | I assumed that since I got connection refused from CVS I should be using svn now |
| 13:46.27 | annma | refused? |
| 13:46.41 | annma | did you try a miror? |
| 13:47.14 | cbcbcb | didn't realise there was a mirror of the CVS repository |
| 13:47.21 | annma | (C++) pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 13:47.27 | cbcbcb | CVS doesn't support changing repository anyway |
| 13:47.28 | annma | do you use anoncvs? |
| 13:47.33 | cbcbcb | yes |
| 13:47.36 | annma | loo |
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| 13:47.38 | annma | lol |
| 13:47.58 | annma | does not support changing repository? how? just change your CVSROOT |
| 13:48.21 | annma | anoncvs is down for a reason unrelated to cvs->svn move |
| 13:48.32 | annma | devels still use kde cvs |
| 13:48.33 | cbcbcb | http://rafb.net/paste/results/1YcemU16.html |
| 13:48.36 | physos | annma: you have to change the URL in all CVS/Root |
| 13:48.59 | annma | physos: then perl is handy |
| 13:49.00 | physos | annma: at least to avoid strange effects. |
| 13:49.27 | physos | cbcbcb: please read http://developer.kde.org/source/anoncvs.html |
| 13:49.57 | physos | cbcbcb: there is alist of mirrors and a nice little command line to switch repositories. |
| 13:50.13 | annma | cbcbcb: what's the version number of kdirwatch.h? |
| 13:50.50 | cbcbcb | in svn it is 409317 |
| 13:51.10 | annma | hmm I have it in cvs |
| 13:53.33 | cbcbcb | does it have a closing } for KDirWatch? |
| 13:54.23 | annma | where? |
| 13:54.41 | annma | I hope so! |
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| 13:55.25 | cbcbcb | in my copy it doesn't |
| 13:55.36 | cbcbcb | amoungst other glaring syntactic errors |
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| 13:56.00 | annma | cbcbcb: send a mail to kde-devel mailing list stating your error |
| 13:56.05 | annma | and version number of the files |
| 13:56.35 | annma | as I said, svn is not ready yet and that'll help making it ready |
| 13:56.51 | annma | did you build qt-copy and arts? |
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| 13:58.21 | annma | cbcbcb: did you build qt-copy and arts? |
| 13:58.41 | StevenR | can anyone help me? I'm trying to compile kat, but make fails with these error messages: http://rafb.net/paste/results/x6bwHk74.html How do I fix it? |
| 13:59.29 | cbcbcb | I use qt from debian. arts is built |
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| 14:00.06 | cbcbcb | I'm only supposed to need qt 3.3.0 and I have 3.3.3 |
| 14:01.01 | annma | cbcbcb: I just asked |
| 14:01.07 | annma | I did not say you had too |
| 14:01.10 | annma | arts? |
| 14:01.40 | annma | just to assess if svn was compiling in some modules as there were reports about those |
| 14:01.49 | annma | did you compile arts? |
| 14:02.08 | cbcbcb | yes that builds OK |
| 14:02.29 | annma | oh cool |
| 14:02.33 | cbcbcb | so does 3.4 kdirwatch.h look OK to you? |
| 14:02.56 | annma | yours? |
| 14:03.00 | annma | probably not |
| 14:03.10 | annma | as I suggest, report it if you want to help |
| 14:03.13 | cbcbcb | there's "struct Entry bool _isStopped;" on lines 281/282 which is garbage |
| 14:04.09 | annma | report it to kde-devel mailing list: kde-devel@kde.org and attch the file |
| 14:04.33 | annma | report that you compiled arts |
| 14:04.54 | annma | so it'll be fixed in a few minutes |
| 14:06.48 | cbcbcb | the copy in anoncvs is fine |
| 14:07.08 | annma | please report the svn error |
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| 14:07.28 | annma | you just have to send a mail |
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| 14:11.46 | Triniax | Hey all, I'm using KDE 3.3.x and I'm playing around with the Konsole bookmarks (very cool). I'm trying to setup an rdesktop bookmark with command line options |
| 14:12.07 | Triniax | similar to rdesktop://host -a 16 -g 1024x768 |
| 14:12.14 | Triniax | anyone know how to make that work? |
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| 14:13.04 | cbcbcb | sent |
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| 14:43.11 | Frederick | guys what is wrong here -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/WMWjRn17.html |
| 14:43.17 | eidolon | hey folks - i'm having an odd thing happening with kvim. I'km running KDE 3.3 on debian testing. when I do alt-f2, 'kvim', the kvim window comes up (even with the help page), but it slowly resizes itself down to as narrow as possible. slowly like it takes 4-5 seconds to get down to a thin strip. i'm not even touching the keyboard. kvim is the only app doing it as far as i can tell. |
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| 14:43.35 | Scorp1us | ok kde folks, here's a question for you |
| 14:44.01 | Scorp1us | when using a remote x session, how can I forward sounds to the remote client? |
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| 14:44.50 | annma | eidolon: ask in #debian-kde |
| 14:45.13 | eidolon | thanks annma. |
| 14:45.17 | annma | Scorp1us: using arts? |
| 14:45.32 | Scorp1us | yeah |
| 14:45.44 | annma | dmix |
| 14:45.58 | Scorp1us | never heard of that |
| 14:46.07 | Scorp1us | but I've heard of arts |
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| 14:46.20 | Scorp1us | is there a win32 dmix? |
| 14:46.34 | annma | win32? |
| 14:46.44 | annma | what it that? :> |
| 14:47.02 | Scorp1us | yeah, i ise xdcmp too login to a linux box in a full-screen window |
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| 14:47.42 | Scorp1us | I get 2 start bars (XP, KDE), but aside from that I am in linux 99% of the day (except outlook) |
| 14:48.32 | annma | so what is your exact problem? |
| 14:48.56 | annma | you log from a win box into a remote kde? |
| 14:49.16 | Scorp1us | yeah, and I want linix sounds |
| 14:49.22 | Scorp1us | er, kde sounds |
| 14:49.25 | annma | from where? what sounds? |
| 14:49.32 | Scorp1us | generated by kde |
| 14:49.40 | annma | coming from the remote to the win? |
| 14:49.49 | Scorp1us | ability to use xmms |
| 14:49.53 | Scorp1us | yeah |
| 14:49.55 | annma | xmms is not kde |
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| 14:50.07 | Scorp1us | well, that is just an example |
| 14:50.20 | Scorp1us | kde has its own player, but i forget the name |
| 14:50.31 | annma | you're not in that box at the mom? |
| 14:50.41 | Scorp1us | (because it is pointless to use it now) |
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| 14:50.51 | annma | what's in kcontrol? |
| 14:51.19 | annma | how do you have it set? |
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| 14:52.12 | annma | Scorp1us: how is KControl set for sound? |
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| 14:53.06 | Scorp1us | can you define "how" |
| 14:53.29 | annma | do you have kcontrol on the remote? |
| 14:53.39 | Scorp|Lin | yeah, looking at it now |
| 14:53.51 | Scorp|Lin | ooooooooh |
| 14:53.55 | Scorp|Lin | a checkbox. |
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| 14:54.31 | Scorp|Lin | so once I've enabled that, how do I get it over to the other side? |
| 14:54.49 | annma | try it before |
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| 14:55.49 | Scorp|Lin | it does not work eitherway, but no errors |
| 14:56.08 | snugglemonkey | I cannot seem to get kde to work with aspell, am I missing something? when I type aspell from the prompt, I get a response. |
| 14:56.12 | Scorp|Lin | Hardware tab is "autodedect" |
| 14:57.13 | Scorp|Lin | aspell is not an X or KDE app |
| 14:57.26 | Scorp|Lin | it has no way to use a window |
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| 14:57.47 | Scorp|Lin | run it in console? |
| 14:57.54 | Scorp|Lin | er, konsole |
| 14:58.00 | snugglemonkey | Scorp|Lin: in my previous installation of KDE, there were visible indications of mispelled words. |
| 14:58.23 | snugglemonkey | perhaps I am trying to use the wrong program. :S |
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| 14:58.49 | Scorp|Lin | like i said, aspell is text-only it does not know how to use a a window |
| 14:58.50 | rasmuson | Hi |
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| 15:00.23 | rasmuson | I have a small problem with konstruct. I had the same problem some weeks ago, but forgot the solution. The error is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb_cxx. I solved it by creating a symlink. But where? |
| 15:00.51 | Scorp|Lin | \ etc/ls.so.conf |
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| 15:01.08 | Scorp|Lin | is the file that contains dirnames for dyn linking |
| 15:01.17 | Scorp|Lin | you can add the dir to that |
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| 15:01.44 | rasmuson | which dir? |
| 15:02.14 | Scorp|Lin | the dir with the library; indeceltaly the file will then show you what dirs it currently scans |
| 15:03.58 | Scorp|Lin | aftr editing that file run "ldconfig" |
| 15:04.03 | rasmuson | what I did last was creating a symlink from something like /usr/lib/db.2.5.so to /usr/lib/db.so or something like that |
| 15:04.31 | rasmuson | What is the "correct" solution? |
| 15:04.33 | Scorp|Lin | that is fine, you put a symlink into th path that ld already scans |
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| 15:04.41 | Scorp|Lin | either way works |
| 15:04.46 | Scorp|Lin | there is a 3rd option too |
| 15:04.57 | estel | hi |
| 15:05.06 | Scorp|Lin | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/your/path/to/library |
| 15:05.09 | annma | hi estel |
| 15:05.11 | estel | i've upgraded kde using apt-get (i |
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| 15:05.24 | rasmuson | ok |
| 15:05.28 | estel | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.42 | Scorp|Lin | or, if you already have a LD_LIBRATRY_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARYPATH:/your/path/to/library |
| 15:05.43 | annma | estel: #debian-kde is the place you want to ask |
| 15:05.47 | Scorp|Lin | or, if you already have a LD_LIBRATRY_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/your/path/to/library |
| 15:05.53 | estel | thanks |
| 15:06.03 | estel | haven't known yet ;-) |
| 15:06.12 | snugglemonkey | Scorp|Lin: ispell is the culprit. |
| 15:06.40 | rasmuson | Scorp1us: I think I remember it now: cd /usr/lib; ln -s libdb_cxx-4.2.so libdb_cxx.so |
| 15:07.13 | Scorp|Lin | could verywell work |
| 15:07.36 | Scorp|Lin | the advice i was giving was for if this library was not in the path |
| 15:07.44 | rasmuson | ahh |
| 15:08.10 | rasmuson | Scorp1us: I am testing it now |
| 15:08.15 | Scorp|Lin | which beggs the question, why is that libray not proprly syminked on "make install" |
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| 15:09.27 | rasmuson | Scorp|Lin: Yes, it works. I don't know what causes it. I have seen the problem on two different fc3 installs now. |
| 15:09.45 | rasmuson | Thanks for your kind help |
| 15:12.07 | Scorp|Lin | sure |
| 15:13.44 | Scorp1us | ok bug time |
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| 15:13.58 | Scorp1us | shall i do this here or in #kde-devel |
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| 15:22.03 | toad_ | is there a timesheets app for KDE that's a bit more sophisticated than KArm? |
| 15:22.35 | toad_ | something that lets you record actual times individually, and edit them in case of errors? |
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| 15:34.28 | gaio | how to switch to another language with ubuntu? |
| 15:35.34 | nutshell | gaio: kcontrol doesn't work? |
| 15:36.25 | nutshell | kcontrol->regional and accessibility->country/region |
| 15:36.27 | nutshell | I mean |
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| 15:38.05 | gaio | nutshell: only us english |
| 15:38.08 | gaio | even if |
| 15:38.19 | gaio | i had downloaded italian pack |
| 15:39.45 | nutshell | and add language doesn't work? |
| 15:39.51 | gaio | not |
| 15:40.11 | apokryphos | gaio: you installed kde-i18n-it package? |
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| 15:40.50 | apokryphos | I'm quite sure that one particularly has been working for others (there was a prob with it at one point)... when did you download? |
| 15:40.52 | nutshell | if you did, look where it was installed and try some other kde-i18n package too, perhaps the package's broken |
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| 15:41.44 | gaio | at first use of kubuntu |
| 15:41.54 | gaio | *finish phase install( |
| 15:42.08 | apokryphos | what? When abouts? The RC? |
| 15:42.28 | gaio | first reboot after installation |
| 15:42.39 | gaio | it download language it automatically |
| 15:43.04 | Frederick | guys what is wrong here -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/WMWjRn17.html |
| 15:43.07 | apokryphos | Yes, but when did you download Kubuntu? How long ago? :) |
| 15:43.10 | Frederick | is it a kdevelop problem? |
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| 15:44.00 | gaio | 3 days ago |
| 15:44.20 | apokryphos | hmm, ok; it should have been fixed by then... |
| 15:45.51 | apokryphos | you can try in #kubuntu to see if you have more luck there |
| 15:46.11 | nutshell | and try to install another language pack and look if you can see/add that |
| 15:46.13 | nutshell | =) |
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| 15:47.18 | willwork4foo | lo folks |
| 15:47.20 | willwork4foo | tis I. |
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| 15:50.19 | pdreker | hi |
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| 15:51.21 | pdreker | While compiling kdelibs from a current svn checkout I get this: "kdirwatch.h:285: error: `bool' is now a keyword" Any ideas or hints? |
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| 15:57.32 | willwork4foo | is there a KDE-based webcam program out there that works well? |
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| 15:58.44 | peeny_ | hello |
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| 16:02.19 | peeny_ | does anyone here have problems with quanta continually hanging in kde 3.4? |
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| 16:03.14 | peeny_ | I did an strace and it seems to do about 5 million gettimeofday calls while it hangs |
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| 16:13.49 | Ilici | hi there, i'm having a problem with mounting my USB camera. I go to "camera:/" in Konqueror and it sees it but when i open it i get "Could not read file /.", anyone familiar with that ? |
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| 16:18.26 | mustasj | Ilici: Try from a terminal, "gphoto2 -P" |
| 16:18.32 | mustasj | Does that work? |
| 16:19.31 | Ilici | Could not detect any camera :( |
| 16:19.46 | Ilici | hm I'm guessing it's not mounted appropriately.. I have udev and hal installed |
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| 16:21.25 | Ilici | is there a way to get automounting functionality similar to that of windows in KDE ? |
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| 16:21.35 | spiral | hi |
| 16:21.46 | mustasj | Ilici: Read about supermount |
| 16:21.52 | Ilici | ok |
| 16:22.04 | mustasj | afternoon spiral |
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| 16:23.23 | Ilici | mustasj, hasn't udev superseeded supermount ? |
| 16:23.57 | StevenR | i dont think udev does automounting |
| 16:26.22 | mustasj | Ilici: I haven't taken the step to udev yet, therefor I know nothing about it:) |
| 16:26.51 | Ilici | ok, would you know where i could ask about these things ? since it's not a KDE related question |
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| 16:27.39 | Flendor | Hello! |
| 16:28.13 | mustasj | Ilici: what distro? look at your distro's forums |
| 16:28.21 | Ilici | mepis |
| 16:30.07 | mustasj | Ilici: don't know if they have a forum, but if you don't find anything on google, you could post on linuxforums.org , perhaps mepis has a irc channel |
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| 16:31.00 | Ilici | ok thanks |
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| 16:38.38 | Frederick | Im having problems with my make toos I think -> Anuta doesnt worked too: configurein:103: required file 'intl/Makefile.in' not found configure.in:31 required file './ABOUT-NLS' not found makefile.am: required directory ./intl does not exist |
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| 16:43.13 | simmerz | I'm using kmix to try and sort my sound out from my tvcard. It is coming in through my line in, and should be going out through both my headphones and my speakers, but its only going out through my speakers. all other sound goes through my headphones too. any ideas? |
| 16:51.56 | Frederick | how do I disable gettext support on kdevelop? |
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| 16:59.18 | Flendor | ..my KDE just minimized all windows by itself..it does it from time to time. |
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| 17:07.39 | SuperCatFrog | hi - which file holds the contents of the kmenu? |
| 17:10.00 | YippMn | supercatfrog: good question hehe ive been wondering that myself lately:) |
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| 17:16.43 | Flendor | I used to be a fan of the game Superfrog :) |
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| 17:17.39 | haakonn_ | best game ever |
| 17:23.48 | Flendor | I'd reserve that title for Daggerfall :) |
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| 17:38.40 | phh | Someone can help me to create a filesystem kio slave? |
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| 17:39.26 | phh | In the proocol file it's defined as filesystem, but when i trace the kio he only call the get() function and not the stat one |
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| 17:57.17 | StevenR | how do i configure irkick to control tvtime channels and volume, etc? |
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| 18:00.34 | sarah03 | StevenR: Can irkick run a command when a button is pressed? |
| 18:00.46 | sarah03 | [I've never used irkick, so I dunno.] |
| 18:00.48 | StevenR | sarah03: yup |
| 18:01.04 | sarah03 | So have it run tvtime-command with an appropriate argument for each of the buttons, then. |
| 18:01.56 | StevenR | tvtime-command? |
| 18:02.34 | sarah03 | *nods* It's a program that comes with tvtime that can tell a running instance of tvtime to do various things. |
| 18:03.40 | StevenR | sarah03: like dcop for tvtime? |
| 18:03.45 | sarah03 | Basically. |
| 18:04.24 | StevenR | cool..thanks alto..will use that :) |
| 18:04.29 | StevenR | *alot |
| 18:04.42 | sarah03 | :) |
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| 18:11.45 | chimaera | making kdelibs (CVS HEAD) bails out with the following: kdirwatch.h:273:4: warning: "/*" within comment |
| 18:11.45 | chimaera | In file included from job.cpp:60: |
| 18:11.45 | chimaera | kdirwatch.h:282: error: `bool' is now a keyword |
| 18:12.01 | chimaera | any ideas? |
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| 18:15.44 | Enforcer_JB | Hi everybody |
| 18:16.26 | oleczek | hi |
| 18:16.43 | Enforcer_JB | I'm trying to work through the KDE tutorials (C++) at developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial, but the example programs can't find "libqt.so" (cannot find -lqt) .. how do I fix that in the automake/autoconf setup from within kdevelop? |
| 18:17.05 | Enforcer_JB | I'd rather not have to learn how to write Makefiles, automake, *and* C++ all simultaneously 8-) |
| 18:18.07 | Enforcer_JB | or to put it a different way: if I want to learn C++ (I know a couple other languages already), is starting with kdevelop a good idea or should I first do all compile steps manually with kate+konsole? |
| 18:18.47 | pdreker | I have wisely circumvented all direct exposition with automake and friends by using kdevelop... |
| 18:19.09 | pdreker | Enforcer_JB: Check if you have libqt-mt.so somewhere... |
| 18:19.31 | Enforcer_JB | yup, have it |
| 18:19.44 | Enforcer_JB | in /usr/lib |
| 18:19.47 | pdreker | That's what should be used... |
| 18:20.07 | Enforcer_JB | where do I tell kdevelop or autoconf/automake to use it? |
| 18:20.16 | pdreker | Enforcer_JB: You have realized, that those tutorial are from 2002? Quite old, and maybe they don apply anymore.. |
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| 18:20.32 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, I have, but it was the best I could find =) |
| 18:20.38 | Enforcer_JB | are there any newer ones available? |
| 18:21.04 | Enforcer_JB | I don't want to start with a full blown KDE app all at once, otherwise I'd probably use the kdevelop templates but they are just too much at once |
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| 18:21.28 | pdreker | Depends on how good you already are... I actually wrote my first KDE app by completely autogenerating a source framework with kdevelop and then reverse engineering that |
| 18:21.42 | pdreker | But I must admit that this was not a pleasant experience... |
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| 18:22.17 | pdreker | Enforcer_JB: Does the example app from the tutorial have a makefile, oder does it use ./configure? |
| 18:22.36 | aseigo | ./configure |
| 18:22.38 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, fullblown autoconf/configure stuff for all examples |
| 18:22.53 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, I am quite fluent in PHP if that counts for anything :-) |
| 18:22.54 | aseigo | but the developer only needs to deal with Makefile.am ... and there's a nice HOWTO for those |
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| 18:24.09 | pdreker | Without taking a look at that now, I would at first try to see, if libqt is somehow referenced from there and replace that with libqt-mt, but that's just a wild stab in the dark... |
| 18:25.24 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, maybe I should start from the other end: if I just want to compile the hello-world example at http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p2.html, what g++ parameters would I need? (without makefile) |
| 18:25.50 | Enforcer_JB | I can then add includes as necessary and when I understand how they are needed and why, can someday just let kdevelop handle them :) |
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| 18:28.34 | pdreker | Enforcer_JB: Just like adding the needed include paths you can take a look at what the linker complains about, and the add the appropriate -lwhatever-lib-is-missing options... |
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| 18:30.36 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, just about anything ... "undefined reference to Qapplication" |
| 18:30.43 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, one moment |
| 18:31.45 | Enforcer_JB | ah, think figured it out. |
| 18:31.47 | Enforcer_JB | thanks |
| 18:32.10 | pdreker | g++ -o kdetest -I/usr/local/kde/include -I/usr/share/qt3/include kdetest.cpp -L/usr/local/kde/lib -lkdecore -lstdc++ |
| 18:32.13 | pdreker | ah, OK... |
| 18:34.29 | pdreker | chimaera: current SVN kdelibs doesn't compile here either... Same error... |
| 18:34.31 | StevenR | sarah03: i now have amarok and tvtime under remote control :D |
| 18:35.30 | sarah03 | StevenR: :) |
| 18:36.14 | annma | pdreker: I just came in, what's up with svn? |
| 18:36.15 | StevenR | sarah03: mine came as part of my hauppage tv card |
| 18:36.55 | pdreker | annma: kdirwatch.h:282: error: `bool' is now a keyword |
| 18:37.09 | sarah03 | I picked up an ATI tv card; the one with a remote cost about 3 times as much. |
| 18:37.13 | annma | pdreker: why do you use svn if I may ask? |
| 18:37.45 | pdreker | annma: err... b/c i've been using cvs HEAD all along, and that just timed out all day... |
| 18:38.05 | annma | timed out? anoncvs you mean? |
| 18:38.09 | pdreker | Yes |
| 18:38.10 | annma | because kde cvs is OK |
| 18:38.19 | annma | well it's been a few days already |
| 18:38.31 | annma | that does not mean we switched to svn |
| 18:38.34 | annma | NOT at all |
| 18:38.39 | chimaera | jepp, couldn't access anoncvs the whole week |
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| 18:38.44 | annma | svn is not ready |
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| 18:38.54 | pdreker | OK, that explains it... |
| 18:39.00 | chimaera | that explains something.. |
| 18:39.01 | annma | just choose another miror |
| 18:39.20 | annma | why do you build cvs and don't monitor kde lists? |
| 18:39.26 | annma | that one eludes me |
| 18:39.37 | Kyle_S | Hi. I was building kde today, and eneded up with alot of errors in the kimgio part. When tryign to link it gave me a bunch of errors in the vein of: .libs/ico.o(.text+0x12ee): In function `kimgio_ico_read': |
| 18:39.41 | Kyle_S | : undefined reference to `__gnu_cxx::__pool<true>::_M_reclaim_block(char*, unsigned int)' |
| 18:40.11 | pdreker | annma: You're probably right... |
| 18:40.12 | annma | Kyle_S: moment |
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| 18:40.35 | annma | pdreker: so please do monitor the kde lists and use svn when it's ready |
| 18:40.36 | Kyle_S | Mmm ok |
| 18:40.43 | annma | Kyle_S: module? |
| 18:40.52 | annma | Kyle_S: build method? |
| 18:41.00 | pdreker | tnx annma |
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| 18:41.28 | Kyle_S | annma: Umm, I ./configured and ran make. Do you want the ./configure line? |
| 18:41.46 | annma | Kyle_S: what sources? what module? |
| 18:42.07 | Kyle_S | annma: Ahh kdelibs-3.4.0 kimgio |
| 18:42.25 | annma | sources from kde ftp tarballs? |
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| 18:45.07 | Kyle_S | It looksl ike a simple linking error, but my attempts to alter the makefile's LDFLAGS have failed. |
| 18:45.21 | annma | you don't need to alter anything |
| 18:45.33 | annma | if it fails it's your system problem |
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| 18:46.27 | Kyle_S | annma: I doubt it. Its more likely due to kde's ./configure not handling multiple compiler installs properly. |
| 18:46.28 | Enforcer_JB | pdreker, thanks a lot .. I'll keep experimenting :) |
| 18:46.45 | annma | Kyle_S: ? |
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| 18:47.59 | Kyle_S | annma: since the advent of gcc3.x gcc keeps all of its libraries seperate for each version of the compiler installed, to make it easy to build & test with many different versions of the copmiler. |
| 18:48.21 | annma | Kyle_S: kde builds with gcc 2.95 |
| 18:48.59 | Kyle_S | annma: the configure script didn't choose the right link order (and I realized 10 secconds ago that I altered a commented out LDFLAG which is why my alterations didn't work) |
| 18:49.18 | annma | Kyle_S: what gcc version? |
| 18:50.11 | Kyle_S | 4.0 prerelease. The error was the linker order. I forced the path for the stdc++ library taht came with 4.0 to be first, and now its building fine. |
| 18:51.14 | Kyle_S | annma: The error had nothing to do with the compiler though, it had to do with the fact that the linker hit the 3.3's c++ libs first, and mistakenly used those. |
| 18:52.46 | annma | hmm |
| 18:52.57 | annma | so you're ok now |
| 18:53.32 | Kyle_S | yea. When I mentioned I tried to alter the Makefile, I opened it up again, and low&behold there was a # at the beginning of the line I altered the LDFLAGS in ;) |
| 18:54.24 | Kyle_S | So far the kernel, qt, kde and several test programs seem to be just fine when built with the 4.0 prerelease. |
| 18:55.10 | Kyle_S | Funny thing is, some programs wizzzz by their gcc3.3 built counterparts, but others, like bzip2 are slower nomatter what. |
| 18:55.11 | recurs|ve | i have a question about konqueror and linuxpluginwrapper, how do i get realplayer to work??? |
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| 19:00.26 | jetsaredim | is there any way to set "Unlimited" as the default history size in konsole? |
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| 19:02.00 | StevenR | how do I stop kdm (from kde 3.4) from listening on port 6000? |
| 19:02.18 | straw | it's not kdm, it's X |
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| 19:02.32 | StevenR | straw: well how do I stop X then? |
| 19:02.55 | straw | -nolisten string don't listen on protocol |
| 19:03.07 | StevenR | where do i put that? |
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| 19:03.13 | straw | so, X -nolisten tcp |
| 19:03.21 | StevenR | yes, i know about that |
| 19:03.26 | StevenR | so where do I put that? |
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| 19:03.57 | slim | anyone here on gentoo? |
| 19:04.08 | jetsaredim | slim: me |
| 19:04.28 | straw | StevenR: /etc/kde/kdm/Xservers i believe |
| 19:04.41 | StevenR | straw: I did, but it still listens |
| 19:05.13 | slim | jetsaredim, you wouldnt happen to know how to get cvs version of kde would you? |
| 19:06.02 | straw | StevenR: and you've restarted X? |
| 19:06.15 | StevenR | straw: yup, gonna try again...brb |
| 19:06.18 | jetsaredim | slim: which version of kde are you looking for? |
| 19:06.36 | jetsaredim | slim: you do know that 3.4.0 is available without cvs |
| 19:06.54 | slim | jetsaredim, i know 3.4 is in portage..just wanted to know if i could get cvs versions |
| 19:07.22 | jetsaredim | slim: you might want to try #gentoo - I don't know off the top of my head |
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| 19:11.33 | cruz | is there a way to have just the icons on one menu with a kinda mac style where when you mouse over it bubbles up a little.. and then like where the applications are on the bar can that be a seperate window? (along with the desktop viewer) |
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| 19:12.14 | annma | is there a way it's Christmas each day? |
| 19:12.32 | cruz | . |
| 19:13.11 | annma | sorry about that but I have no idea what mac style is |
| 19:13.15 | straw | annma: i've been thinking about that since childhood... |
| 19:13.16 | cruz | not mac but like |
| 19:13.19 | annma | I'm not rich you see |
| 19:13.22 | cruz | hrm |
| 19:13.28 | cruz | ever see the object dock for windows? |
| 19:13.34 | annma | straw: :> /me too! |
| 19:13.36 | cruz | just when you mouseover it makes the icon there a little bigger |
| 19:13.37 | cruz | :o |
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| 19:14.09 | cruz | and the bg is transparent.. which i have going but still where the applications are listed in the bar its not transparent, can i put them in a seperate menu up top |
| 19:14.10 | pdreker | cruz: There are several superkaramba themes which do something like that. check www.kde-look.org |
| 19:14.17 | cruz | ok |
| 19:14.18 | annma | cruz: hmmmm |
| 19:14.18 | cruz | thank you |
| 19:14.29 | annma | cruz: eye candy, are you? |
| 19:14.37 | piggz | lo...has anyone here built hal 0.5 from source? |
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| 19:14.52 | annma | piggz: no, is it the right channel? |
| 19:15.17 | cruz | annma, yes and no |
| 19:15.21 | cruz | annma, im just playing right now :) |
| 19:15.24 | markey | lo piggz |
| 19:15.25 | cruz | afk |
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| 19:16.22 | piggz | markey: lo |
| 19:16.26 | StevenR | straw: I'm not entirely sure what option I changed, I think the Xservers file...possibly it just didn't restart properly 1st time round...thanks for the help :) |
| 19:16.54 | piggz | annma: well, not really, but its impossible to get a response from #freedesktop :) |
| 19:17.34 | annma | perspikace being a frenchism |
| 19:17.46 | annma | nevrmind me |
| 19:17.49 | cruz | is there a window rollup kinda think w/ kde |
| 19:17.50 | cruz | like in xfce |
| 19:17.58 | annma | xfce? |
| 19:18.03 | annma | wt hell is that? |
| 19:18.20 | cruz | another de |
| 19:18.38 | cruz | *think = thing |
| 19:21.50 | Dubhghaill | cruz: do you mean like the shade command? |
| 19:23.01 | annma | cruz: rollup? |
| 19:26.02 | straw | StevenR: good, and no problem :) |
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| 19:33.30 | recurs|ve | i have a question about konqueror and linuxpluginwrapper, how do i get realplayer to work??? |
| 19:33.51 | cruz | .. |
| 19:33.57 | cruz | realplayer suck |
| 19:33.58 | cruz | :x |
| 19:34.01 | cruz | sucks* |
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| 19:39.39 | Borg^Queen | Hi does anyone know if kppp is having trouble in general on 3.3? |
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| 19:40.42 | lauri | Borg^Queen: did you check the FAQ in the kppp doc? |
| 19:40.51 | lauri | there were a couple of things added there in response to 3.3 bug reports |
| 19:40.58 | Borg^Queen | thanks |
| 19:40.59 | lauri | I just don't recall which, perhaps you can recognise your problem |
| 19:41.04 | Borg^Queen | thank you |
| 19:42.07 | lauri | maybe the one I'm thinking of was in the general faq |
| 19:42.32 | Borg^Queen | ok good. I'll look there first |
| 19:43.05 | lauri | no, looks like all the actual troubleshooting info is in the kppp one |
| 19:43.07 | lauri | http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdenetwork/kppp/faq.html |
| 19:43.21 | lauri | & http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdebase/faq/applications.html (it's got a couple of hints at least) |
| 19:43.21 | Borg^Queen | thanks again |
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| 19:48.48 | Borg^Queen | lauri: thanks that helped |
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| 19:50.36 | jean | can members please advise on how I can Highlight text in kde without it getting copied to the Linux/unix clipboard? |
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| 19:51.25 | markey | hey BQ |
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| 19:51.59 | George | hrmm |
| 19:53.49 | Borg^Queen | Hey markey congrats on all the success with amarok |
| 19:54.22 | markey | cheers |
| 19:54.29 | markey | so, how's life been for you? |
| 19:54.36 | Borg^Queen | Good, |
| 19:54.40 | markey | :) |
| 19:54.42 | Borg^Queen | I'll not complain |
| 19:54.49 | markey | that's the spirit |
| 19:54.58 | Borg^Queen | I see all the new scripts and such for amarok. |
| 19:55.20 | Borg^Queen | No offense to juk devels but I always thought amarok would have been a better choice. |
| 19:55.47 | Borg^Queen | I'm very happy for you. You and your team worked hard and it shows in the app. |
| 19:56.26 | annma | markey: you can quote her on your website |
| 19:56.39 | markey | ah, that's lame |
| 19:56.46 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 19:56.46 | markey | better to store it in the heart |
| 19:56.48 | markey | ;) |
| 19:57.04 | Borg^Queen | hi annma |
| 19:57.39 | annma | markey: woow |
| 19:57.54 | annma | hi Borg^Queen |
| 19:58.13 | annma | we all know Borg^Queen is not a small player |
| 19:58.18 | annma | in the KDE field |
| 19:58.34 | annma | <-- wow, well said |
| 20:00.40 | Borg^Queen | annma: Are you saying I'm fat? |
| 20:00.51 | annma | lol |
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| 20:01.07 | annma | "small player" being an image |
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| 20:01.28 | Borg^Queen | image of a whale, yes! |
| 20:01.32 | annma | lol |
| 20:01.37 | annma | ! nooooooooooo! |
| 20:01.40 | Alethes | haha |
| 20:02.46 | Borg^Queen | markey: Gern geschehen! |
| 20:03.01 | markey | woah, the Borg^Queen speaks german :) |
| 20:03.04 | Borg^Queen | Yes, go shopping and leave us whales alone |
| 20:03.08 | Borg^Queen | I'm learning |
| 20:03.16 | Borg^Queen | German is on my list of languages to learn. |
| 20:03.18 | markey | not bad at all |
| 20:03.23 | Borg^Queen | Is that correct? |
| 20:03.28 | markey | yes it is |
| 20:03.37 | Borg^Queen | Good lol |
| 20:04.00 | Borg^Queen | I have to get back to work |
| 20:04.05 | Borg^Queen | lauri: thank you. |
| 20:04.10 | Borg^Queen | markey: proud of you. |
| 20:04.13 | Borg^Queen | Later people. |
| 20:04.14 | markey | cya BQ |
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| 20:30.25 | ispepalocacoc | Hi, I can't get kded mediamanger to start in kde 3.4. |
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| 20:34.25 | flithm | hey everyone... what's the kde html editor called again? |
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| 20:35.27 | narg | Peer, when I click on binary (.debs) download links, konq tries to open with kwrite, and I cant figure out how to make it save them instead... |
| 20:35.56 | flithm | quanta? |
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| 20:36.57 | flithm | yep thanks |
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| 20:38.17 | dramen | > can you tell me in which package i can find the appi "DIGIKAM" |
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| 20:45.37 | std0ut | anyone aware what does this error msg means(it happens while running make xconfig in the kernl src dir) |
| 20:45.39 | std0ut | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt |
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| 20:54.14 | Athos | bonjour |
| 20:54.46 | Athos | que nous apporte kde 3.4 |
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| 20:57.18 | beber | hi |
| 20:57.29 | beber | i have a question about cups printing under kde |
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| 20:57.36 | Borg^Queen | Hello |
| 20:57.55 | beber | when i use imagetops to print a png to my postscript printer it takes about 30sec |
| 20:58.14 | beber | the same png printed from kooka, kuickshow or konqueror takes about 15minutes ... |
| 20:58.23 | beber | is there anything i missed ? |
| 20:59.26 | Borg^Queen | That's odd |
| 21:00.10 | beber | i can't figure out why it's so long ... |
| 21:01.24 | Borg^Queen | Try this |
| 21:01.35 | Borg^Queen | Open kword, copy the image into a blank doc and print |
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| 21:02.25 | beber | that's not the way it want it :) |
| 21:02.28 | beber | i |
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| 21:04.09 | Borg^Queen | I know it's a test, |
| 21:04.20 | Borg^Queen | I want to see if something in kooka is clogging your printer |
| 21:06.06 | beber | it's the same with kuickshow, that what's bothers me |
| 21:06.11 | beber | but let's try it :) |
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| 21:11.41 | un3x | how to disable the composite manager |
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| 21:11.56 | un3x | i tried Option "Composite" "Disable" |
| 21:11.58 | un3x | no go |
| 21:12.04 | un3x | it still runs it and crashes it |
| 21:12.55 | chavo | un3x, just comment that line out, it's disabled by default. |
| 21:13.14 | beber | Borg^Queen: very slow with kword too |
| 21:13.34 | Borg^Queen | Are you printing via cups or generic cups ? |
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| 21:14.29 | beber | Borg^Queen: i'm printing directly trough the kde printing interface |
| 21:14.45 | un3x | that didnt do it, it still runs it, what option in kde, requires it, so i can disable it? |
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| 21:15.12 | un3x | It said, "Composite Extension not found" |
| 21:15.26 | un3x | You must use XOrg > 6.8 |
| 21:15.28 | un3x | or whatever |
| 21:15.43 | un3x | You must use XOrg > 6.8 translucency |
| 21:16.07 | un3x | it tries to run it, and crashes it |
| 21:16.24 | un3x | I am using FreeBSD 5.3 by the way |
| 21:16.27 | beber | Borg^Queen: when i print to a ps file, it's doesn't look the same at all from imagetops |
| 21:16.54 | Borg^Queen | That's why I'm asking you to check and see if you're running cups in the kdeprint setup |
| 21:17.01 | beber | Borg^Queen: one is adobe version 2.0 with and image statement then binary data |
| 21:17.41 | beber | the one printed using cups is adobe version 1.0 with "CLSTART" and something looking BASE64 encoded binary data |
| 21:20.31 | Borg^Queen | `That's not what I'm asking. |
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| 21:22.08 | beber | yeah sure i'm running cups |
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| 21:23.30 | Borg^Queen | Actual cups or generic |
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| 21:25.58 | beber | i don't know what you mean by generic |
| 21:26.24 | Borg^Queen | There are two cups drivers, the real one and generic one |
| 21:26.44 | beber | oh ok, the real one |
| 21:26.56 | Borg^Queen | ok |
| 21:27.04 | Borg^Queen | Then I'm at a lose. |
| 21:27.20 | beber | i think i found the problem |
| 21:27.26 | beber | but i can't find a solution :( |
| 21:27.42 | beber | generated ps files don't use the same method |
| 21:27.44 | s3m10s | anyone try kat? |
| 21:28.00 | beber | one seems to use binary image printing (imagetops) |
| 21:28.16 | beber | and the other one "generic" printing directives |
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| 21:41.25 | tra1a1a | guys, how can I disable kio_audiocd? Now it is started every time I access a CD and is locking the drive for quite some time |
| 21:42.58 | un3x | i also need to disable the composite crap |
| 21:43.27 | un3x | i tried uncomenting the shit in xorg.conf, no go, it still wants to start it and says, composite not found |
| 21:43.46 | un3x | total crap ;/ |
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| 21:48.37 | phxguy | can someone help with kdm theme manager?? Im using kubuntu |
| 21:48.48 | s3m10s | to disbalbe the composite, do it in the control center |
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| 21:51.37 | un3x | where abouts |
| 21:51.42 | un3x | i tried finding it |
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| 21:59.14 | phxguy | anyone??? anyone at all??? |
| 21:59.27 | chavo | phxguy, what's the problem??? |
| 21:59.55 | phxguy | wanting to know if anyone has had any luck with kdm theme mnager... im using kubuntu |
| 22:00.29 | chavo | phxguy, I have installed it here, running kubuntu. But I built my whole KDE myself. |
| 22:00.42 | phxguy | ahh |
| 22:01.12 | phxguy | hmmm i just tried installing the deb package from kdelook and it gave error about some dependencies |
| 22:02.16 | chavo | not sure, I built the theme manager from source also. |
| 22:02.31 | chavo | what dependencies is it looking for? |
| 22:02.57 | chavo | It's a debian package, no? |
| 22:04.22 | phxguy | libfontconfig1 >=2.3.0 I havce libfontconf1 2.2.3 |
| 22:05.05 | phxguy | libidn11 >= 0.5.13 I have 0.5.2-3 |
| 22:06.34 | phxguy | yes its a debian package... but i dont think the dependantcies are correct.. |
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| 22:07.12 | KiRuKi21 | hi all :) |
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| 22:31.58 | un3x | anyone know how to disable composite shit |
| 22:31.59 | un3x | ? |
| 22:32.27 | Alethes | more fiber |
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| 22:33.16 | tricente | cu |
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| 22:36.26 | derelm | i am having problems with the generic kmilo plugin, raising the volume in small (+1) stepps doesn't work... |
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| 22:37.01 | mattr | hi |
| 22:37.22 | un3x | kde is so shit, i cant disable the fucking composite rubish :/ |
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| 22:37.37 | un3x | its freezing up my hardware |
| 22:37.43 | derelm | un3x: distribution? |
| 22:38.07 | mattr | un3x: you can turn it off in the control center |
| 22:38.23 | derelm | un3x: and you should disable it in your xorg.conf |
| 22:38.26 | mattr | un3x: in the desktop module, under window behavior |
| 22:38.34 | mattr | un3x: there's a tab called translucency |
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| 22:40.56 | zone17 | Hi all. I have just switched from gnome to kde and I like kde. But how do I take a screenshot? And is there perhaps a function to make the actual key "print screen" take a screenshot when its pressed? |
| 22:41.38 | Kryczek | zone17: use ksnapshot |
| 22:42.00 | derelm | zone17: yes |
| 22:42.16 | derelm | zone17: i think it's the default KDE-keybinding for that key |
| 22:43.04 | zone17 | Thanks! |
| 22:43.20 | derelm | zone17: only pressing print screen will result in copying the selected applications-screen to the clipboard |
| 22:43.40 | derelm | zone17: ctrl-print will copy the complete screen |
| 22:43.51 | zone17 | thank you very much! |
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| 22:46.39 | zone17 | in my case the print screen actually bind to the printer.. how do I change that so it binds to ksnapshot? |
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| 22:47.30 | derelm | zone17: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts |
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| 22:48.54 | zone17 | ok I can bind the desktopscreen shot with the key print screen, but how do I bind the key print screen with ksnapshot? |
| 22:49.51 | derelm | zone17: sorry, kmenuedit |
| 22:50.13 | zone17 | ahh, I got it.. :-) |
| 22:50.15 | zone17 | thanks |
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| 23:07.15 | slayerbob | hiya canllaith |
| 23:07.26 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:07.33 | canllaith | hey mattr |
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| 23:07.54 | Tpo1 | slayerbob, BIND is installed and working just a tad slower than comcast atm |
| 23:08.05 | Tpo1 | but I'm ready next time comcast dumps |
| 23:08.15 | slayerbob | slower ? :| |
| 23:08.22 | slayerbob | it should be faster :| |
| 23:08.29 | Tpo1 | 220~350 ms for lookups |
| 23:08.36 | slayerbob | well... except that comcast will have a bigger range of addresses cached :P |
| 23:08.48 | Tpo1 | true |
| 23:08.55 | mattr | ewww, bind |
| 23:08.57 | mattr | bind is slow |
| 23:09.00 | mattr | djbdns is faster |
| 23:09.01 | mattr | :) |
| 23:09.13 | mattr | even though the guy who writes it is a tad eccentric |
| 23:09.48 | Tpo1 | for a personal NS, bind is fine |
| 23:10.32 | slayerbob | considering the number of ISPs using it I would speculate that bind is fine for corporate use too :) |
| 23:10.41 | Tpo1 | heh |
| 23:12.04 | canllaith | Heya annma :) |
| 23:12.13 | annma | hi canllaith :) |
| 23:12.28 | annma | how's the other side of the world? |
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| 23:13.11 | canllaith | mmm |
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| 23:13.18 | canllaith | a bit rainy and gloomy to be honest, not very exciting at all |
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| 23:13.30 | chx_ | I'd need a quick prototype builder. just the ui elements to show |
| 23:14.32 | muzkrat | hey guys.. i'm running kde 3.3.2 on linux 2.6.11.6. the progress bars are acting weird. they're never colorful, they're just a colorless bevel that moves back and forth. any ideas? |
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| 23:14.51 | mattr | canllaith: hah, for once it's actually been sunny here! |
| 23:14.58 | man | anyone have a Dell Photo All-In-One Printer 962 ? |
| 23:15.05 | BlackHand | hi |
| 23:15.20 | canllaith | I can feed it through something to change line endings can't I? |
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| 23:15.28 | BlackHand | i have a unicode system but kde aparently don't like my unicode |
| 23:15.38 | slayerbob | canllaith: sure :) |
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| 23:15.46 | mattr | canllaith: dos2unix and unix2dos |
| 23:15.54 | mattr | canllaith: but i only know of those on linux. :) |
| 23:16.03 | mattr | canllaith: you should just get slack on that bad body |
| 23:16.06 | mattr | s/body/boy |
| 23:16.07 | slayerbob | if you look there is probably an emacs for wince :) |
| 23:16.25 | mattr | yeah, probably |
| 23:16.35 | mattr | emacs runs on e'erything |
| 23:16.39 | slayerbob | yup |
| 23:16.50 | canllaith | No, I can't put emacs on it. |
| 23:16.59 | slayerbob | there will definintely be notepad which has as many features as pico :P |
| 23:17.11 | StevenR | canllaith: could you not put linux on the wince machine? |
| 23:17.12 | canllaith | brucehoult is a hardcore lisper, if I put emacs on it he'll pinch it back and I wont get to use it |
| 23:17.18 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 23:17.21 | canllaith | The secret is to put on something he hates, like vi |
| 23:17.32 | Alethes | hahaha |
| 23:17.36 | Tronic | Even pico supports UTF-8 now. |
| 23:17.38 | canllaith | StevenR: It's not mine, I'm just perma-borrowing it |
| 23:17.38 | Alethes | urg |
| 23:17.47 | Tronic | In pine 1.61 or something like that. |
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| 23:18.07 | StevenR | canllaith: i like that phrase...perma-borrowing....not quite aquiring or stealing :) |
| 23:18.17 | canllaith | ;) |
| 23:18.38 | canllaith | Well it was more or less useless to him as he had no card reader, windows box or serial port (things required to actually get useful software onto it) |
| 23:19.03 | canllaith | So I hooked it up to my serial port and set up ppp over serial and ip masquerading to get some damn networking drivers on it |
| 23:19.04 | StevenR | canllaith: im looking for a lappy/keyboarded pda that i can run linux on |
| 23:19.05 | Alethes | if you put emacs on it, then it's gotta decent OS on it finally, right? :) |
| 23:19.26 | canllaith | StevenR: my main machine is a dell l400. It's a 1.5kg 12" subnotebook |
| 23:19.37 | Alethes | I played with a blackberry 7520 the other day |
| 23:19.40 | Alethes | pretty nifty |
| 23:19.42 | canllaith | pentium III 700/256MB |
| 23:19.44 | StevenR | canllaith: I want it, post it to me please |
| 23:19.48 | mattr | lol |
| 23:19.51 | canllaith | It's rather cute. Then I tend to just read books on my handheld. |
| 23:20.01 | canllaith | I have a little colour one but it doesn't have a keyboard |
| 23:20.14 | StevenR | canllaith: does it run linux? |
| 23:20.16 | canllaith | I'm going to attempt to write some articles out today on the little black and white casio of Bruce's since it has a full keyboard |
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| 23:20.25 | canllaith | StevenR: lol no, pocket pc 2002 or something like that. |
| 23:20.35 | StevenR | ahhh |
| 23:20.35 | canllaith | Apparently this casio can run netbsd but it looks difficult. |
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| 23:20.44 | mattr | canllaith has too many gadgets |
| 23:20.46 | canllaith | The bootloader page is entirely in japanese for a start |
| 23:20.52 | sarah03 | canllaith: I was going to say, you could probably get NetBSD running on it. |
| 23:20.54 | StevenR | canllaith: it doesn't look to difficult to get linux onto a psion |
| 23:20.56 | canllaith | mattr: No such thing as too many gadgets :) |
| 23:21.04 | canllaith | StevenR: well no, this is all highly model specific though |
| 23:21.08 | SuperCatFrog | hi - which file holds the contents of the kmenu? |
| 23:21.12 | slayerbob | mattr: there is no such thing as too many gadgets :P |
| 23:21.22 | canllaith | sarah03: I can't seem to find much about stuff for sh3. mips yes, arm yes, sh3 not so much. I'll keep hunting. |
| 23:21.26 | mattr | slayerbob, canllaith: i need to come live with y'all |
| 23:21.34 | canllaith | mattr: lol honey you'd be welcome... |
| 23:21.37 | canllaith | ..... you do dishes, right? |
| 23:21.41 | mattr | yeah |
| 23:21.45 | slayerbob | :o |
| 23:21.51 | Tronic | Separate PDAs are not nice. |
| 23:22.00 | mattr | my cooking skills are non-existant |
| 23:22.02 | slayerbob | free dishes washing + someone to complain to about kopete ? :P |
| 23:22.04 | sarah03 | Mm, yes, MIPS and ARM do have a lot better support than SH3 as far as I've been able to tell. |
| 23:22.23 | canllaith | Definitely. |
| 23:22.26 | canllaith | bahahahaha |
| 23:22.30 | canllaith | Emacs for WinCE |
| 23:22.32 | canllaith | you boys were right |
| 23:22.43 | slayerbob | didn't doubt that it would exist for a second :) |
| 23:22.43 | sarah03 | That thought makes my head hurt. |
| 23:22.46 | canllaith | Ah, runs on iPaq. That's sure not an sh3 |
| 23:22.54 | mattr | sarah03: heheh |
| 23:23.15 | Tronic | Any guesses on emacs load up time on that? |
| 23:23.18 | sarah03 | Emacs makes my head hurt. WinCE ... well, there's a reason why it's called wince, right? |
| 23:23.32 | canllaith | heh yup ;) |
| 23:23.35 | slayerbob | heh |
| 23:23.39 | canllaith | Actually, I've always rather liked the wince/pocketpc stuff. |
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| 23:23.52 | canllaith | It seems for tiny embedded OS with no features, MS get it not so bad ;) |
| 23:24.00 | canllaith | heh I just showed bruce the emacs for WinCe page |
| 23:24.11 | canllaith | Bruce:"oooooooooooooooooh.... then it would have a *REAL* os!" |
| 23:24.13 | canllaith | bloody lispheads. |
| 23:24.16 | sarah03 | lol |
| 23:24.50 | mattr | lol |
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| 23:25.05 | gregday | HEAD right now isn't too different from 3.4 release is it? |
| 23:25.09 | canllaith | Nah |
| 23:25.22 | annma | a bit buggier... |
| 23:25.26 | sarah03 | If it is, I certainly can't tell the difference. |
| 23:25.26 | mattr | not yet anyways... |
| 23:25.39 | gregday | im thinking of just running HEAD as my normal install |
| 23:25.49 | annma | I regularly lose my svg wallpaper |
| 23:25.50 | canllaith | gregday: unless you're developing or documenting, don't do it. |
| 23:25.54 | canllaith | Too much trouble and stress |
| 23:25.55 | mattr | gregday: yeah, not a good idea |
| 23:26.00 | gregday | oh ok |
| 23:26.03 | mattr | gregday: run stable branch from CVS as your normal install |
| 23:26.06 | gregday | anyone here tried the new logitech stuff? |
| 23:26.10 | mattr | gregday: i.e. KDE_3_4_BRANCH |
| 23:26.16 | annma | mattr: kdevelop lost its plugins the other day |
| 23:26.23 | canllaith | Damnm, card reader wont read the 8mb that came with the little dude |
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| 23:26.40 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 23:26.50 | slayerbob | will the casio thingo read the 64MB card ? |
| 23:26.56 | canllaith | sarah03: You're far more capable of fixing your cvs problems than I am. Therefore, you wont complain in here to me when it breaks. |
| 23:26.57 | canllaith | :P |
| 23:27.05 | canllaith | slayerbob: yeah it sure does although I had to format the damn thing in ext3 first :) |
| 23:27.13 | sarah03 | canllaith: Mm, yeah, this is true. |
| 23:27.27 | canllaith | I couldn't find the damn formatter utility in it without deliberately inserting a card it couldn't read |
| 23:27.35 | canllaith | Then it popped up with 'Would you like me to assimilate this card' |
| 23:27.38 | slayerbob | lol |
| 23:27.39 | mattr | hhe |
| 23:27.55 | r00tsh3ll | how can i make kde run those metisse 3d effects like in this screenshot http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/KDE3D1.jpg |
| 23:28.07 | canllaith | ok, shower time before I get dragged out the door as is... and that's not a good look. |
| 23:28.08 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:28.11 | r00tsh3ll | i heard something about KDEWM... |
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| 23:29.08 | Cerulean | r00tsh3ll: Never seen such a thing before :S |
| 23:29.48 | r00tsh3ll | http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/KDE3D2.jpg |
| 23:29.52 | r00tsh3ll | seems cool |
| 23:31.14 | Cerulean | Possibly some Composite magic? |
| 23:31.25 | Cerulean | r00tsh3ll: Where did you get those screenshots from? |
| 23:31.43 | r00tsh3ll | www.biglinux.com.br |
| 23:31.58 | r00tsh3ll | its a brazilian linux distribution.. |
| 23:32.04 | gregday | maybe it's just a an advertising effect? |
| 23:32.22 | r00tsh3ll | i'm trying to contact the creator to know how the hell he did that |
| 23:33.18 | Cerulean | Well I doubt it |
| 23:33.36 | Cerulean | that would be false advertising en masse |
| 23:34.21 | Alethes | not anymore than the cover of the old atari games compared to the actual games :) |
| 23:35.08 | Cerulean | heh |
| 23:35.16 | Cerulean | but did they mix in backdrops from the actual game |
| 23:35.23 | r00tsh3ll | no.. i saw that at FLISOL but there was too many people and i didnt had time to ask.. but i have the videos.. hold on |
| 23:36.52 | r00tsh3ll | canllaith Cerulean take a look -> http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/stuff/kde3d.avi |
| 23:38.19 | r00tsh3ll | amazing :-p |
| 23:38.41 | HuntsMan | r00tsh3ll: WTF is that? |
| 23:39.17 | r00tsh3ll | actually i'm trying to discover.. |
| 23:39.28 | Cerulean | Seriously, what is it with the items on the taskbar all shrinking to minimal size when I drag something over the system tray to drop on KGet? |
| 23:39.37 | Cerulean | It's been around since KDE 3.3. |
| 23:39.54 | HuntsMan | ok |
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| 23:42.27 | r00tsh3ll | canllaith: http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/stuff/flisol.avi |
| 23:42.50 | HuntsMan | FLISOL? :) |
| 23:43.17 | r00tsh3ll | ya it was recorded there |
| 23:43.33 | HuntsMan | nice |
| 23:43.45 | r00tsh3ll | take a look too |
| 23:43.53 | Cerulean | It's still downloading.. |
| 23:44.09 | Cerulean | r00tsh3ll: You need some form of faster internet connection |
| 23:44.15 | Cerulean | ;) |
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| 23:44.59 | r00tsh3ll | certainly :-p |
| 23:48.01 | slayerbob | how do i make kpdf display the current page number ? |
| 23:49.05 | can|gliding | :) cya laters. |
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| 23:50.44 | whereami | is there a way to get Kate to show tabs for multiple open files, like kdevelop does? |
| 23:50.47 | ispepalocacoc | I can't start the kded mediamanager... does anybody know how to see error output for this service? |
| 23:51.09 | HuntsMan | whereami: Kate has a plugin for that, check preferences / plugins |
| 23:51.44 | whereami | HuntsMan, hmm, i looked at the plugins, i don't see one though.. |
| 23:51.55 | HuntsMan | maybe you're missing kdeaddons |
| 23:52.09 | whereami | HuntsMan, probably, i'll try that, thanks. |
| 23:52.37 | gregday | ok.. how in the world do i get to the new logitech config stuff? |
| 23:52.54 | Tronic | gregday: What is that? |
| 23:53.29 | gregday | kdebase/kcontrol/input/ |
| 23:53.42 | gregday | according to kdedevelopers.org, full support for the extra features on logitech mice |
| 23:53.51 | Tronic | Built into KDE? Nice. |
| 23:54.01 | Tronic | I've been using that hacky way. |
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| 23:54.03 | gregday | i dont see anything in the mouse kcm though |
| 23:54.09 | vick | How can i change the desktop enviroment to use using kde ? |
| 23:54.12 | Tronic | (i.e. do it by hand) |
| 23:54.38 | Tronic | Anyway, you need to setup X to use evdev instead of ExplorerPS/2 or whatever you are using. |
| 23:54.53 | Tronic | Otherwise it cannot detect the extra buttons. |
| 23:55.04 | gregday | Tronic: ah.. do i need a new device in /dev too? |
| 23:55.08 | Tronic | (kernel /dev/input/mice does not support those buttons) |
| 23:55.11 | gregday | Tronic: where can i learn more about "evdev"? |
| 23:55.23 | Tronic | gregday: Wait a second. |
| 23:55.26 | mattr | gregday: you need libusb |
| 23:55.32 | gregday | got it |
| 23:55.45 | gregday | what version? |
| 23:55.49 | mattr | gregday: and the evdev stuff shouldn't matter, AFAIK |
| 23:55.51 | mattr | gregday: unsure |
| 23:56.08 | gregday | will libusb detection be reported during kdebase configure? |
| 23:56.39 | mattr | yes |
| 23:56.42 | mattr | AFAIK |
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| 23:57.51 | vick | Can someone help me out to make the desktop enviroment to be used 'kde' ? |
| 23:58.13 | Tronic | gregday: You can get the proper configs from http://delenn.tky.hut.fi/mx510.txt |
| 23:58.25 | StevenR | vick: what exactly do you mean? |
| 23:58.44 | vick | StevenR, it's using fluxbox as the desktop enviroment, i want to change that to kde. |
| 23:58.45 | Tronic | Additionally, you'll need logitech_applet to set it to 800 DPI (unless KDE already does that). |
| 23:58.59 | Tronic | (which in turn requires libusb) |
