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| 00:09.22 | slayerbob | :| |
| 00:10.18 | tcaira | o_O |
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| 00:15.54 | njoodle | night |
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| 00:30.52 | Kyle_S | Hi. Anyone recall those wacky problems I was having with strlcpy and it not linking to libkdefakes? |
| 00:31.38 | Kyle_S | The Makefile was telling it to link to libkdefakes_nopic, for some crazy reason. -llibkdefakes_nopic. Deleted the _nopic since there was no suck lib, badaboom it works. |
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| 00:32.41 | kottlett | hi |
| 00:33.08 | kottlett | I want to use kontact/korganizer with egroupware... what do I need to fill in the field URL? |
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| 00:35.40 | cacophony | WOW |
| 00:36.21 | cacophony | where is the data for korganizer's ical lists located |
| 00:36.36 | cacophony | these icals keep crashing korganizer the second it boots up |
| 00:36.40 | cacophony | so I cant even boot it up to fix it |
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| 00:43.50 | Colossus | Does anyone know how to switch keyboard layouts in KDE? I could do it with an applet and alt+shift in GNOME, but I haven't figured it out in KDE |
| 00:44.51 | SadEagle | Colossus: kcontrol ->Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout |
| 00:45.13 | SadEagle | you can enable the switcher tray icon there.. |
| 00:45.38 | Colossus | Thank you! |
| 00:45.57 | Alethes | we should have a page of all the people that switched from gnome to kde and the reasons why |
| 00:45.57 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:46.07 | Alethes | it seems there are lot of us |
| 00:46.10 | Alethes | a lot, rather |
| 00:46.14 | canllaith | * of nothing in particular... * |
| 00:46.29 | slayerbob | lol |
| 00:46.47 | Alethes | know what I'd like to know? |
| 00:46.54 | slayerbob | the meaning of life ? |
| 00:46.58 | canllaith | 42 |
| 00:47.03 | slayerbob | :P |
| 00:47.07 | Alethes | why is it that distros that use kde as the default manage to set it up in the most gaudy fashion possible |
| 00:47.24 | canllaith | because they happen to like that? :) |
| 00:47.58 | Colossus | Oh, and another question ... how can I set KDE to be my default desktop environment in redhat? |
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| 00:48.00 | Alethes | canllaith: you'll be shocked at what I've done today |
| 00:48.02 | bekks | hi |
| 00:48.03 | Colossus | Gnome ends up crashing ... |
| 00:48.08 | canllaith | I mean.... look at osx |
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| 00:48.12 | canllaith | they actually manage to sell that:| |
| 00:48.14 | Alethes | canllaith: my desktop is -- purple :o |
| 00:48.17 | canllaith | With even more gaudy than crystal icons |
| 00:48.20 | canllaith | Alethes: OMG show me |
| 00:48.22 | Alethes | haha |
| 00:48.25 | Alethes | hang on |
| 00:48.29 | canllaith | and if it looks cool send me theme :D |
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| 00:49.06 | canllaith | mmm damn :| did I not run this in screen |
| 00:49.08 | Alethes | uploading a shot |
| 00:49.13 | canllaith | sod, I didn't :( |
| 00:49.19 | radi0head | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.21 | Alethes | it's pretty similar to most of my others |
| 00:49.26 | bekks | I'm using gentoo and trying to emerge kdevelop 3.2.0, which ends up in bug #33119, basically gnutar throwing an error about being unable to unpack gnu.tar.gz. anyone have a solution or ever heard of it? |
| 00:49.28 | Alethes | it's just purple where the other colors were used |
| 00:49.47 | SadEagle | purple? Sounds like Mandrake ;-) |
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| 00:50.34 | canllaith | Right, that's better. |
| 00:50.36 | canllaith | :D |
| 00:50.51 | slayerbob | :P |
| 00:50.59 | Alethes | canllaith: http://www.alethes.net/purple.png |
| 00:52.02 | canllaith | oooh that's nice, can I have the colour scheme ? :) |
| 00:52.07 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:52.09 | Alethes | of course |
| 00:52.35 | Alethes | gotta remind where the file is stored again though :) |
| 00:52.47 | canllaith | hehehe |
| 00:52.53 | canllaith | .kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ |
| 00:53.32 | slayerbob | does kde automatically update for daylight savings time ? |
| 00:53.36 | slayerbob | or linux for that matter :P |
| 00:53.42 | Alethes | I did a green one too |
| 00:53.45 | Alethes | dark green |
| 00:53.48 | Alethes | uploading that one as well |
| 00:53.48 | canllaith | ahahahaha sod |
| 00:53.56 | canllaith | trying to figure out why the dvdrw wont find my cd I just put in it |
| 00:53.56 | cacophony | dang |
| 00:53.58 | cacophony | okay |
| 00:54.23 | cacophony | now Im trying to set up an ical file on a remote server (the url is webcal://ical.mac.com/johnschult/Shuttle.ics ) |
| 00:54.37 | cacophony | but I keep getting the error "Could not rename partial file" |
| 00:54.42 | cacophony | and a path |
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| 00:54.52 | cacophony | Ive checked the path, and I have all the permissions needed |
| 00:55.02 | cacophony | whats going on here? |
| 00:55.17 | Alethes | canllaith: http://www.alethes.net/Purple.kcsrc and http://www.alethes.net/Forest.kcsrc |
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| 00:57.03 | canllaith | bah |
| 00:57.08 | Alethes | ? |
| 00:57.10 | canllaith | having multiple KDEHOME's really messes me up on this box lol |
| 00:57.20 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:57.37 | Alethes | canllaith: did you ever try that industrial color scheme? |
| 00:57.41 | canllaith | oh that's nice |
| 00:57.48 | Alethes | which? |
| 00:58.17 | canllaith | heh this will be a smegging huge screenie but anyway |
| 00:58.24 | Alethes | haha |
| 00:58.25 | Alethes | ok |
| 00:58.42 | Alethes | smegging is such a disgusting word |
| 00:58.47 | Alethes | I wish you'd just say fucking |
| 00:58.48 | Alethes | :D |
| 00:59.12 | canllaith | lol |
| 00:59.14 | canllaith | smegging is not a disgusting word |
| 00:59.23 | Alethes | smeg is gross |
| 00:59.37 | Dirk[AWAY] | smeg is a range of cookers |
| 00:59.44 | canllaith | They make ovens |
| 00:59.45 | canllaith | yeah :P |
| 01:00.00 | Alethes | http://www.foreskin.org/smegma.htm |
| 01:00.05 | Alethes | get the idea? |
| 01:00.06 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:00.15 | canllaith | I'm not clicking on that... |
| 01:00.19 | Alethes | http://www.google.com/search?q=smegma&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 01:00.20 | sadsfae | yikes me either |
| 01:00.27 | Alethes | the titles of each of those pages is enough |
| 01:00.34 | canllaith | Alethes: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith//foo/purple.jpg |
| 01:00.47 | canllaith | Anyone not on dialup : http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/purple.png |
| 01:00.49 | canllaith | :P |
| 01:00.50 | Alethes | loading |
| 01:01.00 | Alethes | that's not too huge |
| 01:01.04 | canllaith | that's cause it's a jpg |
| 01:01.05 | Alethes | it's not a meg and a half ;) |
| 01:01.08 | canllaith | png is 700 odd k |
| 01:01.22 | canllaith | heh no, although I *have* managed 1.2MB screenies on this machine before |
| 01:01.22 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 01:01.30 | Alethes | pngs are purty |
| 01:01.36 | cacophony | ooh |
| 01:01.41 | Alethes | know what my favorite line in "Without a Paddle" is? |
| 01:01.44 | cacophony | canllaith: what window decorations are those |
| 01:01.45 | canllaith | mmm? |
| 01:01.56 | canllaith | cacophony: that is knifty with Alethes's colour scheme he made. |
| 01:02.04 | Alethes | "we're in between buttfuck nowhere and 'You gotta purty mouth'" |
| 01:02.12 | canllaith | and it's very very sexy, I"m impressed Alethes you have good taste in colours |
| 01:02.13 | Alethes | I like the line "You gotta purty mouth" |
| 01:02.13 | Alethes | that's hilarious |
| 01:02.31 | canllaith | I love screen |
| 01:02.40 | canllaith | mmmm wonder if this thing is set to boot from which cd drive first |
| 01:03.06 | Alethes | knifty looks good with the subdued colors |
| 01:03.40 | cacophony | how do I install new themes? |
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| 01:03.58 | canllaith | damn |
| 01:04.04 | canllaith | how the heck |
| 01:04.13 | canllaith | do I burn an iso from k3b so it's actually bootable? |
| 01:04.34 | Colossus | Dammit, now it's making it an international keyboard layout, and I can't make it into a non-international one. |
| 01:05.09 | Colossus | Ah, there we go |
| 01:05.55 | canllaith | mmmmm damn |
| 01:06.02 | canllaith | how do I use k3b to burn an iso so it actually becomes bootable? |
| 01:06.26 | canllaith | It just copied the .iso to the cd, that's not very bright of it |
| 01:06.27 | Dirk[AWAY] | is the iso bootable? |
| 01:06.34 | canllaith | Yes, of course it is. |
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| 01:07.02 | cacophony | canllaith: its in tools |
| 01:07.05 | canllaith | ok lets hope I don't crash the mac putting the cd drive |
| 01:07.07 | canllaith | cacophony: thanks :) |
| 01:07.12 | cacophony | no problem |
| 01:07.20 | kilrae | oy, something is eating my cpu power every 5 seconds or so |
| 01:07.27 | canllaith | Don't have a cddrive on my machine, let alone aburner |
| 01:07.37 | cacophony | kilrae: run top |
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| 01:08.24 | canllaith | ok this time the mac didn't crash. That has to be a good ting |
| 01:08.27 | canllaith | erm, thing* |
| 01:08.40 | kilrae | caco: i am, but it won't tell me the name of the application, it just says for a split second that 30% of the cpu is being used when the computer is idle |
| 01:09.02 | canllaith | kilrae: could set it to log to a file rather than print to screen (man top gives you various switches) |
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| 01:09.41 | Dirk[AWAY] | Tools->CD->Burn CD Image... |
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| 01:10.28 | canllaith | ahah |
| 01:11.12 | canllaith | Alethes: I'm completely in love with this colour scheme of yours & plastik on the huge lcd. It's so crisp looking |
| 01:11.18 | canllaith | Thanks Dirk[AWAY] |
| 01:11.24 | Alethes | canllaith: nifty :) |
| 01:11.39 | Alethes | I mean knifty :D |
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| 01:11.56 | canllaith | made any progress on that at all btw? The last time I got it from you, you'd just done the kmail icon |
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| 01:12.06 | kilrae | ok, i sat and stared at top for a while |
| 01:12.10 | Alethes | I haven't done anything on it for a couple of weeks, canllaith |
| 01:12.17 | Alethes | working on my money-making-venture currently |
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| 01:12.22 | canllaith | fair enough :) |
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| 01:12.35 | Alethes | getting closer to finished with that though |
| 01:12.41 | Alethes | then I'm gonna have a few kde adventures |
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| 01:12.52 | Dirk[AWAY] | I used k3b for the first time a few days ago.. I'm impressed! Last time I tried it (a year or so ago) it just produced coasters |
| 01:12.57 | canllaith | shame the only box I can put windows on aint booting right now. |
| 01:13.12 | canllaith | Dirk[AWAY]: I also recall on my slackware 9.1 box trying to get burning working on early 2.6 kernel was a nightmware |
| 01:13.25 | canllaith | Dirk[AWAY]: this is a slack 10 box and 2.6.10 and everything JustWorked when I installed the dvd burner |
| 01:13.39 | canllaith | Plugged it in, ran k3b, burnt a cd. Just like that, I'm so impressed. |
| 01:13.44 | Dirk[AWAY] | this was prolly 2.4 kernel |
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| 01:14.16 | kilrae | X jumps from using 1% CPU to around 10% every 5 seconds approximately |
| 01:14.24 | kilrae | when idle |
| 01:14.50 | kilrae | but it only does this when i'm running kde |
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| 01:15.07 | DirkGently | canllaith: mine is SuSE 9.2 |
| 01:15.36 | canllaith | well, I'm using macosx atm but that's only cause I'm in the process of repairing my laptop =p |
| 01:15.52 | Oleg_ | people, hi |
| 01:15.59 | canllaith | Hey there Oleg_ |
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| 01:16.33 | Dirk[AWAY] | night |
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| 01:19.24 | canllaith | hahaha knoppix talks to you know when it boots? |
| 01:19.29 | canllaith | 'initiating startup sequence....' |
| 01:20.43 | Oleg_ | canllaith: you never felt anything sexual when a boy kissed you on the cheek? |
| 01:21.08 | canllaith | Fancy that, I don't have my 'filter out stupid questions' regexp on this machine. |
| 01:21.19 | Roey | Is KGet idiotic or something? |
| 01:21.30 | Roey | or is there reason for it to be taking 95% CPU time? |
| 01:21.34 | Alethes | Roey: it's spelt O-l-e-g |
| 01:21.36 | Oleg_ | it's a childish question, but it's not stupid |
| 01:21.39 | Alethes | not k-g-e-t |
| 01:21.48 | Roey | and for failing to download things? |
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| 01:21.57 | Roey | Oleg_: are you KGet's maintainer? |
| 01:22.01 | Oleg_ | no |
| 01:22.02 | Alethes | no |
| 01:22.02 | Roey | ok |
| 01:22.06 | Alethes | he's idiotic |
| 01:22.09 | Roey | oh |
| 01:22.16 | Roey | Oleg_: these are serious charges, how do you plead? |
| 01:22.46 | Oleg_ | well, life will show me the truth eventually |
| 01:23.16 | Roey | SadEagle: KGet takes 95% CPU time and fails to download things as scheduled. I will look this up on b.k.o, but off the top of your head, have you heard anything to this extent? |
| 01:23.33 | Oleg_ | For example, I got a huge sexual pleasure from kissing 2 girls on the cheek |
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| 01:23.43 | SadEagle | I haven't paid attention to KGet bugs. Ask eros or pinotree |
| 01:23.45 | Oleg_ | and I kissed 6 girls in total |
| 01:23.53 | Roey | SadEagle: thank you. |
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| 01:24.10 | kilrae | oy, i finally found the problem |
| 01:24.11 | canllaith | Oleg_: can it please. |
| 01:24.12 | SadEagle | you are thanking me for ignoring the stream of bugs to an app? ;-) |
| 01:24.15 | Colossus | (I get pleasure from kissing boys. In theory.) |
| 01:24.20 | Oleg_ | canllaith: why? |
| 01:24.39 | Roey | SadEagle: for the reference to Those Deemed Responsible(tm) |
| 01:24.49 | kilrae | kicker is causing my video problem |
| 01:25.03 | Roey | Colossus: haven't put that into practice, that's why it's a theory? |
| 01:25.13 | Colossus | Absolutely. |
| 01:25.17 | SadEagle | Roey: well, refinement: they are not deemed responsible for kget in 3.4 and earlier. they are deemed responsible for desuckifying it for the future |
| 01:25.19 | Alethes | kilrae: what does kicker do? |
| 01:25.23 | Roey | Colossus: ok. |
| 01:25.26 | Colossus | When putting something into practice has a high chance of you getting hurt badly ... |
| 01:25.39 | Roey | SadEagle: desuckifying, LOL |
| 01:25.50 | Roey | Colossus: eh, depends on the culture I guess. |
| 01:25.56 | canllaith | interesting. I guess knoppix can't handle 1600x1200 |
| 01:25.56 | Colossus | Yeah. |
| 01:26.01 | Colossus | Culture here isn't queer-friendly. |
| 01:26.07 | Roey | Colossus: where's here? |
| 01:26.15 | Colossus | California. |
| 01:26.15 | kilrae | Alethes: panels |
| 01:26.20 | Roey | Colossus: ????!?! |
| 01:26.22 | Colossus | (amusingly) |
| 01:26.30 | Colossus | Northern California. Pretty conservative. |
| 01:26.43 | Alethes | kilrae: no, I mean, what is kicker doing that's screwing up your video |
| 01:26.46 | Colossus | 'sides, my boyfriend lives far enough away that we've not gotten a chance to kiss. Yet. |
| 01:26.52 | kilrae | Alethes: that i don't know yet |
| 01:26.54 | Roey | Colossus: I thought California is the mecca of friendliness (please forgive the ironic pun) |
| 01:27.00 | slayerbob | isn't san francisco in north california ? |
| 01:27.06 | Oleg_ | canllaith: by the way, remember I said that I was bisexual or thought that maybe I was bisexual, well, recently I came to the conclusion that I am straight |
| 01:27.17 | Colossus | slayer, no, it's in the bay area. central California |
| 01:27.18 | Roey | Oleg_: how old are you? |
| 01:27.24 | sarah03 | I thought SF was closer to the middle of California. |
| 01:27.28 | Oleg_ | 23 |
| 01:27.48 | Oleg_ | San Francisco is in the South California |
| 01:27.54 | Oleg_ | just like LA |
| 01:28.06 | Roey | Oleg_: those processes are said to stabilize around this age |
| 01:28.09 | slayerbob | here we just call it all america |
| 01:28.11 | Colossus | No ... |
| 01:28.15 | Colossus | it's in the /middle/ |
| 01:28.21 | slayerbob | there is no reason for us to assume that it has any kind of internal structure :P |
| 01:28.28 | Colossus | LA is about 6 hours from San Francisco. |
| 01:28.33 | Oleg_ | see? |
| 01:28.34 | Roey | Colossus: cali has a middle? I always thought it was this one big blob of liberalness |
| 01:28.37 | SadEagle | Roey: oh,I thought you were going to say that he sounds like he is 13 ;-) |
| 01:28.44 | Roey | SadEagle: ah, nono |
| 01:29.08 | Oleg_ | so, both LA and San Francisco is in the southern part |
| 01:29.18 | Roey | (one big blob) |
| 01:29.22 | Colossus | Processes can stabilize earlier. |
| 01:29.26 | slayerbob | SadEagle: try 2 :P |
| 01:29.27 | canllaith | ok lets see if this baby will netboot |
| 01:29.28 | Roey | Colossus: or later |
| 01:29.28 | canllaith | hell yes |
| 01:29.32 | Colossus | I know people who've been sure of their sexual orientation at 5 ot 6. |
| 01:29.35 | Colossus | s/ot/or/ |
| 01:29.42 | canllaith | slayerbob: these dell's will netboot off their 3com card :D |
| 01:29.44 | Roey | Colossus: science is rather fuzzy on psychology |
| 01:29.48 | slayerbob | oh nice :P |
| 01:29.52 | Colossus | I like Nature vs. Nurture. |
| 01:29.59 | Roey | Colossus: I don't know about that. |
| 01:30.04 | Colossus | "Well, either it's because of how they raised, or ... they were just born that way." |
| 01:30.13 | slayerbob | seems likely |
| 01:30.20 | Colossus | food. |
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| 01:31.11 | Roey | Colossus: seems to me more how people were raised, but what do I know? there are after all biological differences between men and women, and between men and men even. |
| 01:31.32 | Roey | and between women and women and all those other fun combinations. |
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| 01:32.42 | kilrae | wow, i finally solved it |
| 01:33.36 | kilrae | Taskbar v2 was that problem |
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| 01:33.51 | Alethes | taskbar v2 is pointless |
| 01:33.54 | Roey | =) |
| 01:33.58 | kilrae | it was pretty |
| 01:34.14 | Alethes | it's probably sucking up resources trying to get those thumbnails |
| 01:34.20 | kilrae | you've known me long enough that i think pretty is a point |
| 01:34.48 | kilrae | does it make those thumbnails constantly or on demand? |
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| 01:35.29 | Alethes | I imagine constantly, since it's your cpu every 5 secs |
| 01:35.38 | kilrae | yeah |
| 01:35.51 | kilrae | and to think i almost switched to gnome |
| 01:36.02 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 01:36.09 | Alethes | no reason to use gnome man |
| 01:36.21 | Roey | right |
| 01:36.22 | Roey | so right. |
| 01:36.37 | Roey | some people are content with gnome, |
| 01:36.43 | Roey | but then again, pigs are content to wallow in mud. |
| 01:36.47 | kilrae | of course i meant to write my poli sci essay today and fixed this instead |
| 01:36.54 | Roey | :) |
| 01:37.15 | kilrae | i am so screwed for my final essays |
| 01:37.30 | Roey | :( |
| 01:37.32 | grepper | I like it cause its transparent, I turn off the thumbnails |
| 01:37.54 | Roey | kilrae: see, that's why I got through college with the minimum required GPA. |
| 01:37.59 | Roey | kilrae: please study. |
| 01:39.18 | kilrae | i have a 3.9 right now |
| 01:39.36 | SadEagle | not too bad ;-) |
| 01:39.49 | Roey | damn |
| 01:39.50 | Roey | ;) |
| 01:40.09 | kilrae | but i'm going to screw up my final essay for politics |
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| 01:40.47 | kilrae | i hate the gpa system |
| 01:41.11 | kilrae | who was it that decided an A+ was worth the same as an A? |
| 01:41.12 | SadEagle | does your school have A+? |
| 01:41.31 | SadEagle | Heh, that's a fun alternative. |
| 01:41.51 | kilrae | although i suppose that overall i'm better off |
| 01:42.36 | Roey | =) |
| 01:42.39 | kilrae | i have straight A+s in my philosophy courses |
| 01:43.04 | kilrae | but there are a few people with As and i'd like to be beating them for real |
| 01:43.46 | kilrae | but then my math courses are only As, so it would even out anyway |
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| 01:44.04 | kilrae | and that stupid B+ from comparitive politics |
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| 01:45.01 | sciron | getting an unable to open socket report from kdm (kde-3.3) in syslog, errno 97. I'm seeing no apparent reasons why, any thoughts? |
| 01:46.48 | Colossus | Roey: back to the earlier note: and between biological men with gender dysphoria (male-to-female transgendered people) and biological men. |
| 01:48.37 | kilrae | i have to clean my laptop screen |
| 01:50.54 | kilrae | anybody know where the cleaner is? |
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| 01:52.49 | eille-la | hi |
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| 01:53.00 | tcaira | Hi |
| 01:54.19 | eille-la | in konsole with bash, how to make control-left and right skip words? I know how to setup inputrc to make readline do it but in X server the control modifier don't modify the arrows keys |
| 01:55.27 | tcaira | Couldn't tell you, but I know how to get b and w to skip words |
| 01:56.32 | tcaira | set -o vi |
| 01:56.50 | Roey | Colossus: yes, part of that "other fun combinations" stuff ;) |
| 01:56.59 | Roey | Colossus: point being, why shoudl it be one or the other |
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| 01:57.16 | kilrae | there are some really weird spots on my lcd screen |
| 01:57.22 | Roey | Colossus: and why should it be on a one-dimensional scale (With nature on one end and nurture on the other), in the first place? |
| 01:57.48 | kilrae | i think they're inside it |
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| 01:58.20 | etherfire | kilrae, dead pixils? |
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| 01:59.26 | jariep1_ | how do you export bookmarks in konqueror |
| 01:59.27 | jariep1_ | ? |
| 01:59.43 | kilrae | ether: no, they look kinda like shadows |
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| 02:00.13 | kilrae | it looks like the screen is just dirty but it doesn't come off and if you look carefully it doesn't seem to be on top |
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| 02:01.30 | jariep1_ | I think I figured that out, but how do I export them in XBEL format? |
| 02:01.31 | Colossus | Roey: <belated>I agree completely.</belated> |
| 02:02.35 | SadEagle | jariep1_: you don't. They are in XBEL already |
| 02:03.03 | Roey | Colossus: for one thing, this nature/nurture debate completely dismisses the capacity of an individual to change (or to stay the same) |
| 02:03.05 | jariep1_ | but where is the file located? |
| 02:03.16 | jariep1_ | I want to import them into a bookmark manager |
| 02:03.50 | jariep1_ | i'm using debian |
| 02:04.19 | SadEagle | .kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
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| 02:26.25 | ysm | Is there a strange bug in kpdf shipped with kde3.4 ? like not opening or viewing file after 2 or 3 use ? |
| 02:32.44 | nutshell42 | how can I get a beep out of echo -e "\a" in konsole? |
| 02:33.20 | nutshell42 | I know it still worked in 3.2 but now nothing I do seems to get me a pc speaker beep =/ |
| 02:35.14 | canllaith | 3.4 works flawlessly here. |
| 02:35.36 | canllaith | * It's only natural, that I should want to, be there with you.. * |
| 02:35.52 | ysm | nutshell42: echo -e "\a" work here too (with 3.4) |
| 02:36.15 | nutshell42 | ysm: well |
| 02:36.21 | nutshell42 | it's a bit complicated |
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| 02:36.37 | nutshell42 | my konsole settings->bell was set to "system bell" |
| 02:36.41 | nutshell42 | no sound |
| 02:36.51 | nutshell42 | when entering echo -e "\a" |
| 02:36.57 | Xirzon | I'm trying to paste Ukrainian characters into a konsole session, but I only get ???????? - any way to do that? |
| 02:37.03 | nutshell42 | now I've set it to "system notification" |
| 02:37.13 | nutshell42 | the system notification to execute command echo -e "\a" |
| 02:37.15 | nutshell42 | and it works |
| 02:37.25 | lignux | Xirzon: you can start it up with the encoding utf-8 |
| 02:37.27 | nutshell42 | now the reason I did all this |
| 02:37.30 | ysm | maybe there is no sound configurated for "system bell" ? |
| 02:37.43 | nutshell42 | was because a friend of mine wants his konversation to use the pc speaker |
| 02:38.00 | lignux | like |
| 02:38.09 | nutshell42 | (it's useful if you're using headphones regularly and want to hear irc msgs even if you're afk) |
| 02:38.25 | lignux | xterm -en utf-8 |
| 02:38.52 | nutshell42 | and I told him to use echo... in system notifications but it doesn't work there |
| 02:38.55 | nutshell42 | any ideas? |
| 02:39.17 | ysm | did you check in KControl > Sound & Multimedia > System Bell or System Notifications (Konsole) ? |
| 02:39.47 | lignux | Xirzon: For konsole I imagine the setting would be in konsolerc |
| 02:41.17 | ysm | hum, with Settings > Bell > System Bell, echo -e "\a" does nothing here.. |
| 02:41.49 | Xirzon | lignux: hmm, xterm shows the characters, though joe seems to screw up when editing files |
| 02:42.35 | nutshell42 | ysm: don't know, it works here now, so I'm semi-happy; next I'll try to solve the konversation problem of my friend =) |
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| 02:43.01 | nutshell42 | my solution may be kind of a clutch but never change a running system |
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| 02:49.02 | lignux | Xirzon: That's joe's problem |
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| 02:49.21 | the_slash | hey guys |
| 02:49.31 | the_slash | how do i add things to the kmenu? |
| 02:49.49 | canllaith | Right click -> Kmenu editor |
| 02:49.56 | the_slash | alright |
| 02:49.58 | the_slash | thanks |
| 02:50.23 | canllaith | Right click on the kmenu button that is :) |
| 02:50.52 | the_slash | thanks |
| 02:50.56 | sarah03 | Hmph. KWin's 'always on top' setting doesn't apply to windows that belong to the same application, huh? |
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| 02:51.01 | lignux | I've never actually used the KMenu |
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| 03:00.56 | Minuo | Is there a way to fix the Flash A/V sync issues in Konqueror? |
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| 03:10.34 | davisra | hello all |
| 03:11.06 | davisra | i want to know how i can redo the wizard that starts when you start kde for the first time |
| 03:11.32 | davisra | is there a way to do this without deleting the user than adding them again? |
| 03:11.45 | sarah03 | kpersonalizer |
| 03:12.03 | davisra | where is this kpersonalizer? |
| 03:12.24 | sarah03 | I don't think it's in the kmenu by default - enter it into "Run command" |
| 03:12.26 | aseigo | davisra: same place as all your either KDE binaries |
| 03:12.33 | davisra | alright |
| 03:12.49 | davisra | thanks |
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| 03:14.59 | anrxc | good evening |
| 03:15.19 | anrxc | did anyone recently tried to build kde 3.4 on slackware 10 ? |
| 03:17.37 | canllaith | Yep |
| 03:17.45 | canllaith | Have been building kde cvs head on it for quite a while |
| 03:18.13 | anrxc | i just stumbeld on an error trying to build kdebase |
| 03:18.26 | canllaith | and it is? |
| 03:18.30 | anrxc | konq_operations.cc:260: error: `pathOrURL' undeclared |
| 03:18.33 | anrxc | make[3]: *** [konq_operations.lo] Error 1 |
| 03:18.46 | canllaith | You've built and installed kdelibs 3.4 already? |
| 03:19.13 | anrxc | i am building kdelibs at the moment in another terminal, installed kdelibs are from 3.4 rc1 |
| 03:19.30 | canllaith | You must install the more recent kdelibs first before you can build kdebase. |
| 03:19.47 | anrxc | tnx |
| 03:21.40 | canllaith | mmm depends what version and what questions. slayerbob uses gdm |
| 03:22.05 | aseigo | anything in gnome2 |
| 03:22.23 | canllaith | yeah, shoot |
| 03:23.10 | aseigo | AAAARG. wtf is the "gdm documentation" all about how to sys admin it? gaaaaaaaaah |
| 03:23.46 | canllaith | w = where? where the fuck? and there isn't any. |
| 03:24.16 | aseigo | w = why? |
| 03:24.23 | slayerbob | actually i think i am only using kdm now :$ |
| 03:24.25 | aseigo | http://www.jirka.org/gdm-documentation/t1.html |
| 03:24.35 | aseigo | my question basically is: the menus in gdm |
| 03:24.53 | aseigo | what are the called in english (founds lots of non-english screenshots ... grrrrr) and what do they contain? |
| 03:25.29 | aseigo | er, shots |
| 03:25.58 | Alethes | my 14 year old is singing "Up In Smoke" |
| 03:26.01 | Alethes | should I be concerned? |
| 03:26.32 | Alethes | o/~ I take a toke, and all my worries go up in smoke |
| 03:28.01 | Colossus | Alethes, you might want to take away their pot supply. ;) |
| 03:28.08 | Alethes | hah |
| 03:28.10 | Alethes | she doesn't smoke |
| 03:28.15 | Alethes | we just got the movie yesterday |
| 03:28.20 | Alethes | watched as a family even |
| 03:28.20 | Colossus | Well, then, nothing to worry about! |
| 03:28.34 | Colossus | (odd ... my /boyfriend/ is 14) |
| 03:28.47 | Alethes | my wife and I are always laughing about it and my stepdaughter loves That 70s Show |
| 03:28.58 | lignux | Kopete isn |
| 03:28.58 | Colossus | This intergenerational stuff can be confusing, can't it? |
| 03:29.06 | Alethes | nah |
| 03:29.10 | lignux | Kopete isn't filtering out foreground text properly |
| 03:29.12 | Alethes | my dad is the same age as my brother in law |
| 03:29.21 | Alethes | and I have cousins the same age as my kids |
| 03:31.48 | Colossus | erf. Too bad you can't make wget grab stuff from a list ... |
| 03:31.51 | Colossus | (or can you?) |
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| 03:31.59 | Alethes | you can :) |
| 03:32.22 | Colossus | ... how?! |
| 03:32.24 | Jarn | Wow, before I thought KDE had all the apps but the kitchen sink! But it turns out they DO have the kitchensync! |
| 03:32.34 | Jarn | ...bad pun |
| 03:32.35 | Roey | back |
| 03:32.36 | Roey | hi |
| 03:32.37 | Jarn | I'm sorry. |
| 03:32.40 | canllaith | intergenerational? bah. They overlap so far |
| 03:32.51 | canllaith | Jarn: roflol, that's a good one |
| 03:33.05 | Alethes | Colossus: wget -i |
| 03:33.09 | Alethes | or wget --input-file |
| 03:33.12 | Alethes | the file is a list of urls |
| 03:33.18 | Colossus | ahhh ... |
| 03:33.21 | Alethes | wget --help |
| 03:33.21 | Colossus | Thank you. |
| 03:33.22 | Alethes | :) |
| 03:33.29 | Alethes | I'm pretty useful somedays |
| 03:33.31 | canllaith | Alethes: i've slightly modified your purple |
| 03:33.31 | Roey | :) |
| 03:33.34 | Jarn | callaith: :P |
| 03:33.47 | Alethes | canllaith: how dare you |
| 03:33.50 | Colossus | I've read man wget a few times. Never thought of -i, though. |
| 03:33.56 | Alethes | you're not allowed to under the AUL |
| 03:34.01 | Alethes | Alethes User License |
| 03:34.04 | canllaith | stuff you :P |
| 03:34.11 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:34.16 | Alethes | oh |
| 03:34.19 | Alethes | btw |
| 03:34.26 | Alethes | I now own all of the private files on your computer as well |
| 03:34.30 | Alethes | you shoulda read the license |
| 03:34.42 | Colossus | purple? hmmm. |
| 03:34.44 | Colossus | Tempting. |
| 03:34.48 | canllaith | hahhaa |
| 03:34.52 | Colossus | "Tempting ... but, no." |
| 03:34.54 | canllaith | Alethes: it's brucehoults computer |
| 03:34.57 | Alethes | oh |
| 03:34.59 | canllaith | if you really want his porn collection, go for it |
| 03:35.01 | canllaith | I wont stop ya ;) |
| 03:35.03 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:35.11 | Colossus | That' |
| 03:35.15 | Colossus | s what the internet is for! |
| 03:35.26 | Alethes | does it include downloads from canllaithgonewild.com? |
| 03:35.34 | Roey | the internet is just a giant mirror for my porn collection. |
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| 03:35.46 | Roey | SEE canllaith PROGRAM KDE!!!! |
| 03:35.51 | canllaith | lol there is no pron of me thank you very much |
| 03:36.05 | Alethes | btw |
| 03:36.09 | canllaith | wel I spose that pic I showed you yesterday was a wee bit... do you think what I was doing with that bannana was a bit too much? |
| 03:36.15 | Alethes | I tried to make the purple not so annoying |
| 03:36.31 | canllaith | It goes fantastic with that isle of elba pic |
| 03:36.35 | Roey | Alethes: what, she was playing with a banana and you turned it purple? |
| 03:36.43 | Alethes | yeah, I tried that too, canllaith :) |
| 03:36.44 | Alethes | that pic rocks |
| 03:36.54 | slayerbob | probably turning the banana into a dessert or something :) |
| 03:36.57 | Alethes | Roey: I cannot confirm the existence of the banana |
| 03:37.13 | canllaith | Hey!kuickshow works with komposite extension now |
| 03:37.16 | canllaith | erm composite* jesus |
| 03:37.17 | canllaith | lolol |
| 03:37.20 | canllaith | bloody KDE influence |
| 03:37.26 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:37.27 | Roey | slayerbob: so what's this business of turning it purple then?? |
| 03:37.31 | Colossus | composite Jesus? |
| 03:37.36 | anrxc | :-) |
| 03:37.38 | Roey | slayerbob: that's like tomato-flavored ice cream. |
| 03:38.15 | canllaith | Alethes: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/more-purple.jpg |
| 03:38.33 | Alethes | did you try that green one by chance? |
| 03:38.36 | canllaith | Just made the inactive windows a paler purple instead of the same as the background colour |
| 03:38.39 | canllaith | Not yet, I'll do it now |
| 03:38.56 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 03:39.25 | canllaith | I'm just stuck on this bloody athlon with 20" tft and beasty graphics card running kde 3.4 atm :( |
| 03:39.34 | canllaith | while my little laptop reinstals. I tell ya, it's a trial. |
| 03:39.36 | Alethes | that looks slick :) |
| 03:39.39 | canllaith | Being forced to use all this gorgeous hardware |
| 03:39.45 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:39.47 | Alethes | poor canllaith |
| 03:39.49 | Roey | canllaith: your desktop schemes continue to impress :) |
| 03:39.52 | Alethes | she has such a hard life |
| 03:39.57 | canllaith | I know :( I do, it's terrible |
| 03:40.12 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/geek-heaven.jpg |
| 03:40.24 | canllaith | being FORCED to use that screen *sniff* |
| 03:40.25 | Alethes | geek heaven aka canllaith hell |
| 03:40.31 | Roey | :) |
| 03:40.34 | canllaith | uhuh, cause we all know I'm not very geeky |
| 03:40.35 | canllaith | ;) |
| 03:40.39 | Alethes | hehe |
| 03:40.41 | slayerbob | lol |
| 03:41.06 | canllaith | switching irc from mac to linux.... |
| 03:41.10 | Roey | who is bruce hoult in this channel? |
| 03:41.22 | canllaith | ok :) |
| 03:41.24 | Alethes | bruce is bruce |
| 03:41.24 | sarah03 | canllaith: Your desktop schemes continue to impress, but your actual desktop scares me a bit. :D |
| 03:41.37 | canllaith | Roey: brucehoult, but he's not here right now. He's in christchurch, hence me stealing his computer and making it purple. |
| 03:41.48 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:41.48 | canllaith | sarah03: lol |
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| 03:41.59 | Alethes | canllaith: make it pink and purty for when he gets back |
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| 03:42.07 | Alethes | oh wait |
| 03:42.09 | Roey | canllaith: you're also in .nz? |
| 03:42.10 | canllaith | Alethes: eheh now that is a really good idea |
| 03:42.14 | Alethes | make sure it has his nick all over it |
| 03:42.18 | Alethes | then post a screenshot somewhere |
| 03:42.20 | canllaith | Roey: Yes, so is slayerbob and sycofly and Renze etc |
| 03:42.22 | Alethes | so everybody think its his |
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| 03:42.30 | canllaith | Alethes: ahahah and, I so have to quote him out of context on this |
| 03:42.38 | canllaith | completely out of context but still, he said to me the other day |
| 03:42.43 | canllaith | 'well, fundamentally I like fucking boys' |
| 03:42.49 | Alethes | :D |
| 03:42.49 | sycofly | hehe .. you call |
| 03:42.51 | canllaith | So I should probably work that into the pink screenshot somewhere |
| 03:42.54 | canllaith | heya sycofly ! :) |
| 03:43.05 | wnorrix | i am trying to make a combo box (qt)... i have a bunch of values that i am able to insert using @blogCategories.insertItem('Category') so now if i have two items named category how do i know the diff |
| 03:43.07 | Alethes | canllaith: photoshop him saying that in konversation |
| 03:43.12 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 03:43.12 | sycofly | hi Renze |
| 03:43.20 | Alethes | canllaith: just change your nick to his and say it |
| 03:43.25 | Alethes | say it to canllaith of course |
| 03:43.34 | Alethes | say something "don't tell anybody but..." |
| 03:43.35 | Roey | canllaith: aaaah ok, got it. |
| 03:43.48 | Roey | canllaith: how's your weather in new zealand? |
| 03:43.52 | canllaith | Right now |
| 03:43.55 | canllaith | it's sunny, clear, glorious |
| 03:44.02 | canllaith | about .... 23 degrees? Nice and warm without being hot |
| 03:44.10 | Alethes | 23 rocks |
| 03:44.19 | Alethes | it's like -8 here |
| 03:44.20 | lignux | Why does kmail only want to open on the first desktop when I click on the taskbar icon, regardless of which desktop I I'm currently working in? |
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| 03:44.40 | Roey | canllaith: I want to get a house in Oz or New Zealand when I grow rich and famous. In June I will be in NYC or DC, and in January I will be in Australia or New Zealand |
| 03:44.51 | Roey | canllaith: wow, 23... |
| 03:44.58 | Roey | canllaith: it was 6 here just yesterday. |
| 03:45.37 | canllaith | Australia is pretty darn nice |
| 03:45.44 | canllaith | hopefully I'll be there again in another month or so |
| 03:45.47 | canllaith | shit, less than a month now :| |
| 03:46.09 | Alethes | canllaith: is it a major immigration ordeal to move from oz to nz? |
| 03:46.13 | canllaith | Nah |
| 03:46.23 | canllaith | As an Australian citizen I can move back and forth without having to worry about visas and crap |
| 03:46.29 | Alethes | ah |
| 03:46.29 | canllaith | I get permanant residency as soon as I walk in the door |
| 03:46.36 | canllaith | Which is damn convenient |
| 03:46.40 | slayerbob | :P |
| 03:46.45 | Alethes | are nz citizens also australian citizens? |
| 03:46.50 | slayerbob | not exactly |
| 03:46.52 | canllaith | No |
| 03:46.57 | Roey | sycofly: oh? :) |
| 03:46.58 | slayerbob | but to all intents and purposes |
| 03:46.58 | canllaith | but they're permanant residents. |
| 03:47.11 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 03:47.29 | Alethes | I'm a canadian permanent resident, but I'm a US citizen |
| 03:47.35 | Roey | I'm Israeli, so there is no way I will be able to go into NZ |
| 03:47.35 | Alethes | but it didn't come easily |
| 03:47.36 | Roey | haha |
| 03:47.51 | AnotherData | lol |
| 03:48.58 | sycofly | Roey: ..was NZ in Israeli media over mosad passport scam few months back |
| 03:49.38 | Roey | sycofly: not really |
| 03:49.45 | Roey | sycofly: it was but only for a brief while |
| 03:49.58 | Roey | sycofly: and then the stupid media found a fresher kitschy story to latch on to |
| 03:50.03 | sycofly | I didnt think the Israeli gov. would allow such coverage of their antic |
| 03:50.18 | sycofly | hehe |
| 03:50.47 | sycofly | thats it .. |
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| 03:51.38 | Roey | ;) |
| 03:51.49 | canllaith | *blink* oook then =p |
| 03:51.49 | Roey | sycofly: loook |
| 03:51.58 | Roey | sycofly: the israeli govt is against itself |
| 03:52.13 | Roey | sycofly: they'll do anything to snuggle up to european liberals. |
| 03:52.14 | sycofly | I tell no secerts |
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| 03:52.44 | Roey | sycofly: if that means putting down their own State so that they can have their Volvo, so be it. |
| 03:54.39 | Alethes | that sounds a lot like the left in the US |
| 03:54.40 | sycofly | I enjoyed my time in Israel .. cheap as hell vodka and plenty of sun .. its just a shame i had to pick tomatos every day in the Aravah desert .. hehe |
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| 04:04.59 | Roey | Alethes: the problem with the israeli government is that its leftist elements collude with the leftist mecca that is Israeli Media. |
| 04:05.38 | Alethes | how is that any different from the US left? heh |
| 04:05.52 | Roey | Alethes: and this is how the Left gets recognition in Israel, and this is how Israel is perceived by Europe and the US. |
| 04:06.04 | Roey | Alethes: and unfortunately it gives the Left trememndous power in deciding things |
| 04:06.45 | Roey | Alethes: Ariel Sharon was elected on a platform of not "awarding prizes to Terror". Within two years he turned twice and became a leftist. |
| 04:07.07 | Roey | Alethes: the difference is that in Israel, the Right has been ostracized. |
| 04:07.42 | Roey | Alethes: marginalized, defamed, relegated to and grouped together with the religious right. |
| 04:07.49 | anrxc | hey, is QSynaptics a kde only utility does it depends on some of kde packages, or qt is all it needs? |
| 04:08.03 | aseigo | ariel sharon is "left" in israel? |
| 04:08.05 | aseigo | holy fuck. |
| 04:08.17 | Roey | aseigo: ariel sharon is fucking nuts. |
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| 04:08.28 | Roey | aseigo: ariel sharon sells out to the highest bidder. |
| 04:08.29 | canllaith | anrxc: as far as I'm aware, qsynaptics requires only qt and ksynaptics requires KDE |
| 04:08.44 | Roey | aseigo: currently that is Labor. Shimon Peres. Yosi Beilin. |
| 04:08.47 | anrxc | tnx again |
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| 04:09.29 | baz2a | hi everyone |
| 04:10.18 | Roey | I prefer Avigdor Lieberman |
| 04:10.29 | Roey | netanyahou has had his chance as far as I see |
| 04:10.35 | baz2a | has anyone seen a repo with kde 3.4 for x86_64 linux? |
| 04:10.40 | Roey | everyone so far has messed things up in their own way. |
| 04:10.55 | Roey | starting with golda meir |
| 04:11.09 | Roey | actually... |
| 04:11.13 | Roey | starting with handing back the Sinai. |
| 04:11.24 | Roey | that was Leftist tinkering. |
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| 04:12.01 | Roey | and because of that, we now have terrorists and bombs streaming in from Rafiach, which sits on the border between Egypt and Israel. |
| 04:12.27 | Roey | this is *the worst* time for Israel, short of the six-day war. |
| 04:13.25 | baz2a | has anyone seen a repo with kde 3.4 for x86_64 linux? |
| 04:13.46 | Roey | yes. |
| 04:13.50 | Roey | baz2a: yes. |
| 04:13.56 | Roey | baz2a: see #debian-kde, they're all over it. |
| 04:14.03 | Roey | baz2a: see /topic in #debian-kde. |
| 04:14.26 | Roey | baz2a: see #kubuntu, if you're interested in a KDE theme pack for Ubuntu. |
| 04:14.29 | baz2a | really? i've tried the devel ones and the fc4t1 copies on download.redhat.fedora.com |
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| 04:15.07 | baz2a | way too many dependancies, will try to peep those, been long over due to step over to the land of debian |
| 04:16.17 | skamp | 0 opts ? |
| 04:16.18 | Roey | ok |
| 04:16.22 | skamp | s/opts/ops/ |
| 04:17.10 | Alethes | skamp: yeah, do something that we'd all hate, 'cause nobody can kick you out |
| 04:17.16 | Alethes | :) |
| 04:17.32 | skamp | no fun in doing that |
| 04:17.45 | lignux | Course there is! Why do you think there are so many trolls? |
| 04:18.04 | skamp | no fun for me, that is |
| 04:18.18 | baz2a | thanks roey |
| 04:18.24 | baz2a | checking debian's site now |
| 04:18.25 | Roey | aye. |
| 04:18.43 | Roey | what's with the '0 opts'? |
| 04:18.45 | Roey | what does that mean? |
| 04:20.26 | canllaith | he means 0 ops |
| 04:20.36 | canllaith | as in, no-one in here has ops. That can of course be remedied *really* quickly though |
| 04:20.56 | skamp | hence my following sed cmd :) |
| 04:21.11 | baz2a | doesn't see anything on debian's site saying they support x86_64 |
| 04:22.09 | baz2a | peeping ubuntu |
| 04:22.20 | MrGrim | Roey: not use to networks w/ chanserv? |
| 04:23.08 | MrGrim | course.. even in the old shining beacon of freedom, efnet, losing ops is no longer a very threatening propsect |
| 04:23.15 | MrGrim | s/propsect/prospect |
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| 04:42.32 | robinp | is someone working on support for kdnssd in kopete ? |
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| 04:44.59 | anrxc | canllaith you page was been very helpfull in settings synaptics, saved me som trouble |
| 04:46.01 | canllaith | my page? Gosh, ok :) |
| 04:46.06 | canllaith | how did you find it? |
| 04:46.25 | anrxc | purple snapshot :-) |
| 04:46.31 | canllaith | ahhh :P |
| 04:46.37 | Alethes | hah |
| 04:46.55 | canllaith | bout to say.... I know my google karma is good but I didn't think it was *that* good |
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| 04:47.14 | anrxc | hehe |
| 04:47.24 | canllaith | mmmm vegemoit on toast |
| 04:47.30 | canllaith | erm, vegemite |
| 04:48.31 | Roey | MrGrim: OH, 0 *operators*, got it. |
| 04:52.20 | thiago | Roey is a bit slow today |
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| 04:55.22 | MrGrim | ? |
| 04:55.26 | MrGrim | I didn't get it.. |
| 04:55.34 | canllaith | .. and in another 15 minutes... |
| 04:55.35 | canllaith | never mind =p |
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| 04:55.50 | thiago | 15? |
| 04:56.03 | canllaith | 30?:P |
| 04:56.05 | thiago | it took him half an hour |
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| 05:05.26 | MrGrim | I mean I don't understand what Roey said or meant.. |
| 05:05.33 | MrGrim | "O *operators*" ?? |
| 05:06.02 | MrGrim | or, more importantly |
| 05:06.06 | MrGrim | how it related to what I said |
| 05:06.11 | grepper | zero |
| 05:06.15 | grepper | none |
| 05:06.21 | grepper | nadda |
| 05:06.27 | slayerbob | perhaps it was all just your imagination MrGrim :P |
| 05:06.43 | MrGrim | and here I thought I didn't have one |
| 05:06.57 | slayerbob | well there you go :) |
| 05:07.01 | MrGrim | oh... who wants to see a pic of the back of my head with two holes in it? :) |
| 05:07.17 | grepper | he say "0 ops" and wondered what it meant |
| 05:07.26 | MrGrim | the holes are stithced up.... I know not as fun |
| 05:07.31 | MrGrim | but it's still a great pic :D |
| 05:07.46 | MrGrim | http://12.202.217.219/cysts.jpg |
| 05:07.59 | MrGrim | even tho it's minor, that was my very first surgery |
| 05:08.02 | MrGrim | I was excited :D |
| 05:08.18 | Alethes | MrFreakOfNature |
| 05:08.37 | grepper | thanks for sharing |
| 05:09.46 | MrGrim | you can now make fun of me for having to big bald spots with stitched in the back of my head :D |
| 05:10.03 | Roey | MrGrim: I didn't realize that "0 opts" referred to the lack of operators in this channel. |
| 05:10.05 | Roey | MrGrim: that is all. |
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| 05:12.10 | MrGrim | oh wait I see now |
| 05:12.17 | MrGrim | Roey: I actually didn't mean to say that to you |
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| 05:12.23 | MrGrim | I mean tto say it to skamp |
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| 05:12.40 | light_punch2 | is there a kcal? k calendar? |
| 05:12.51 | MrGrim | he was the one that questioned the lack of ops |
| 05:12.55 | canllaith | korganizer ? |
| 05:14.19 | canllaith | It hates you. |
| 05:14.42 | canllaith | I heard it say so. |
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| 05:15.08 | sarah03 | Dhraakellian: That doesn't bother me so much. The part that bothers me is that Kopete likes dropping my Yahoo connection repeatedly without telling me so. |
| 05:15.20 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 05:15.51 | Quinn_Storm | I love kde, and I hate to say it but to me kopete still can't compete with gaim |
| 05:15.54 | Cam0 | hiya |
| 05:16.00 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 05:16.14 | Dhraakellian | except for the issues just mentioned, I like kopete |
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| 05:16.29 | Alethes | gaim annoys me |
| 05:16.37 | Alethes | I hate that stupid connection window |
| 05:16.38 | Dhraakellian | kopete has far superior metacontact display in the contact list |
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| 05:17.27 | Dhraakellian | I haven't used gaim much recently, so I can't really say whether it's better than it was when I switched to kopete |
| 05:17.36 | madpenguin8 | kate chokes on large files |
| 05:18.09 | Alethes | heh choke and large is a funny combination |
| 05:18.18 | Alethes | kate chokes on large _______ |
| 05:18.20 | Alethes | who's kate? |
| 05:18.21 | Quinn_Storm | Dhraakellian: well I like the fact that with gaim I can send rich text messages to any of my various contacts, no matter what system or whatever |
| 05:18.53 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 05:19.14 | Dhraakellian | ^U and /me are two things that I wish kopete would handle differently |
| 05:19.31 | Dhraakellian | the former might be a Qt thing, however |
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| 05:19.40 | sarah03 | ... I don't care for rich text messages, either sending or receiving. |
| 05:20.06 | Dhraakellian | since I don't think ^U works properly for any multiline input boxes of that sort |
| 05:21.02 | Dhraakellian | I just want it to do something useful, such as clearing (to the beginning of) the line |
| 05:21.04 | sarah03 | [And styling, etc.] |
| 05:21.26 | Alethes | likewise |
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| 05:23.15 | Dhraakellian | not that Kopete shouldn't have the option to deal with such things, should the user choose to do so |
| 05:24.26 | thiago | I think /me is handled differently |
| 05:25.07 | Dhraakellian | it shows up as |
| 05:25.07 | Dhraakellian | /me does stuff |
| 05:25.07 | Dhraakellian | in kopete |
| 05:25.33 | sarah03 | *shrug* The only other problem I have with kopete is that I have it set to ignore other people's font/style choices, yet it doesn't completely [and so occasionally I get someone who's twiddled their font/size settings sending text to me that renders at about 96pt.] |
| 05:25.54 | thiago | Kopete always renders at 96 dpi or more |
| 05:25.56 | thiago | never less |
| 05:26.01 | thiago | that's a khtml bug |
| 05:26.09 | canllaith | Yup. |
| 05:26.20 | sarah03 | I didn't say 96dpi, I said 96pt. |
| 05:26.21 | thiago | ok, sorry, it's late |
| 05:26.25 | thiago | I read 96dpi, not pt |
| 05:26.35 | sarah03 | As in, the characters are about 1.5" tall on my screen. |
| 05:26.47 | thiago | somehow "pt." changed into "dpi" in my mind |
| 05:27.07 | canllaith | Are you using cvs head? It does seem to be stripping colour/size from messages for me |
| 05:27.14 | thiago | 96pt should be 1 1/3 " |
| 05:27.15 | thiago | :) |
| 05:27.37 | sarah03 | Their client sends "<font size='12'>" meaning 12pt... KHTML sees 'size="12"', goes "Oh, that means 9 sizes larger than default" and proceeds to render it ginormous. |
| 05:28.03 | thiago | broken client on their end |
| 05:28.24 | canllaith | Gaim is a big offender. |
| 05:28.38 | sarah03 | Didn't say their client wasn't broken. But the client in question, I believe, is actually the official Yahoo client. |
| 05:28.56 | canllaith | Ah, of course |
| 05:29.02 | thiago | then it isn't broken on sending, but is on displaying |
| 05:29.06 | canllaith | I don't have these problems anymore because I'm using jabber + aim transports |
| 05:29.24 | canllaith | and I guess it's not sending the rich text. |
| 05:29.28 | canllaith | Yet another reason to like jabber ;) |
| 05:29.56 | sarah03 | Not overly concerned about it; I usually bitch at the person in question and tell them to change their style settings. |
| 05:30.44 | Dhraakellian | sarah03, yay for evangelism! |
| 05:30.50 | canllaith | It really annoys me. If people don't use the fonts I've selected I can't read my screen |
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| 05:57.44 | Rene_S | Will Konqueror know wether I have Java installed or not ? |
| 05:57.59 | Rene_S | never shows up in the list of plugins |
| 05:59.32 | dStruct- | ok i turned off my desktop icons and now i have Computer, my username's home, Trash, etc..? |
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| 06:01.21 | dStruct- | anyone know? |
| 06:05.01 | Cam0 | what was your question dStruct? |
| 06:05.18 | dStruct- | why do i still have desktop icons is i hide them in Control Center |
| 06:05.35 | dStruct- | if |
| 06:06.47 | madpenguin8 | refresh desktop? |
| 06:07.11 | Quinn_Storm | dStruct-: did you just turn off device icons or all icons? |
| 06:07.41 | dStruct- | desktop icons |
| 06:08.00 | dStruct- | Control Center -> Desktop -> Behavior |
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| 06:11.01 | AnotherData | I know ive asked this question about a million times,but has anyone found any slackware packages for kde 3.4 yet? |
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| 06:12.06 | dob | Hi |
| 06:12.21 | dStruct- | haha slackware |
| 06:12.46 | AnotherData | ? |
| 06:12.53 | dStruct- | you really like slackware? |
| 06:13.07 | AnotherData | yes |
| 06:13.08 | anrxc | i think noone put them out yet, see on alt.os.linux.slackware, there is a thread about it |
| 06:13.15 | dStruct- | have you tried any other distros? |
| 06:13.21 | dob | why on kde all the application that use gtk2 lib have their font more smaller on the same application on gnome? |
| 06:13.24 | AnotherData | ive tried many |
| 06:13.41 | Quinn_Storm | I started with slackware...long time ago...on debian/(k)ubuntu now for the magic of apt |
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| 06:13.54 | AnotherData | debian,mandrake,ubuntu, etc |
| 06:13.59 | dStruct- | heh |
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| 06:14.05 | dob | i mean if i run for example pan on gnome the fonts are ok, if i start pan on kde, then the fonts become very small |
| 06:14.08 | dStruct- | i won't touch any of those |
| 06:14.46 | anrxc | dob, if you have gnome installed, then try running gnome-settings-deamon under kde |
| 06:14.47 | chavo | dob, get gtk-qt engine, you can control gtk look from control center |
| 06:14.47 | Quinn_Storm | dob: install the gtk2 qt theme engine and use the kcontrol applet to make sure the font size is good, make sure you change and apply at least once to create a .gtkrc |
| 06:15.06 | anrxc | if you don't a good idea is what chavo said |
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| 06:16.53 | dob | thanks i will try |
| 06:17.28 | billytwowilly | Hi, is it possible to make the taskbar applet transparent? I have panel transparency on in kde 3.4 and the apps in the taskbar look ridiculous with their grey backgrounds.. |
| 06:18.22 | Quinn_Storm | billytwowilly: try logging out & back into kde, if I remember right it went transparent that way before...but I could be wrong |
| 06:18.40 | madpenguin8 | dont log out |
| 06:18.59 | madpenguin8 | alt-f2 killall -9 kicker && kicker |
| 06:19.11 | billytwowilly | kicker is transparent. |
| 06:19.17 | billytwowilly | it's the taskbar that isn't. |
| 06:19.24 | billytwowilly | The taskbar applet |
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| 06:20.56 | sarah03 | No, the taskbar applet simply isn't transparent. Go find mtaskbar or taskbar v2 [I don't remember which it's called] over on kde-apps.org. |
| 06:20.57 | billytwowilly | yah, didn't fix it.. |
| 06:21.05 | billytwowilly | ok. |
| 06:21.07 | billytwowilly | thanks. |
| 06:21.19 | sarah03 | Install it and then restart kicker. |
| 06:21.25 | sarah03 | And then add it to your taskbar. :D |
| 06:21.34 | billytwowilly | nifty |
| 06:21.51 | madpenguin8 | use compmgr and make kicker transparent |
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| 06:22.02 | billytwowilly | kicker is transparent |
| 06:22.12 | billytwowilly | I'm running kde 3.4 if I didn't mention that already. |
| 06:22.24 | sarah03 | madpenguin8: That would be nice, if kompmgr or xcompmgr worked worth a damn when running with Xinerama. |
| 06:22.29 | madpenguin8 | so am I, transparent here |
| 06:22.30 | Rene_S | argg Konversation is annoying me |
| 06:22.38 | chavo | madpenguin8, you should do dcop kicker kicker restart to restart kicker |
| 06:22.41 | sarah03 | But the composite extension doesn't work worth a damn. |
| 06:22.42 | madpenguin8 | sarah03: WORKSFORME |
| 06:22.52 | Cam0 | how did you guys go about installing kde 3.4? konstruct, rpm? |
| 06:23.06 | madpenguin8 | chavo: indeed, dcop is always good ;) |
| 06:23.08 | sarah03 | The moment I start a compositing manager, everything disappears. |
| 06:23.30 | chavo | sarah03, what video card? |
| 06:23.42 | sarah03 | And then for split-seconds here and there, a fragment of something's UI will render and then vanish. |
| 06:24.03 | sarah03 | chavo: Primary head, Matrox Mystique; secondary head, ATI Radeon 9000. |
| 06:24.12 | billytwowilly | it's called taskbar v2, but the deb is mtaskbar.. |
| 06:24.39 | chavo | yeah, you're not going to get good composite support from those cards |
| 06:24.54 | sarah03 | *shrug* Composite sort-of works on the Radeon when using fglrx. |
| 06:25.09 | sarah03 | But fglrx won't run 16bpp, so that makes it useless for my Xinerama config. |
| 06:25.22 | billytwowilly | sarah03, this is beautiful. Exactly what I needed. thanks. |
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| 06:25.59 | sarah03 | billytwowilly: :) |
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| 06:27.18 | billytwowilly | hmm. thumbnails... |
| 06:27.54 | sarah03 | *nods* I just tell it to not grab thumbnails, myself. |
| 06:28.45 | sarah03 | I just wanted a transparent taskbar, because it goes with the rest of my desktop. |
| 06:29.07 | sarah03 | [Even if it is just pseudo-transparency. That's good enough for my tastes.] |
| 06:29.08 | billytwowilly | that's unfortunate.. oh well. and the thumbnails animation is so cool too;) |
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| 06:29.56 | billytwowilly | hey, if I exclude kaffiene maybe it won't make it freeze.. hmm. |
| 06:31.24 | billytwowilly | nope.. still freezes.. darn. |
| 06:32.20 | SuperL4g | what package contains the "Luxi Sans" font? |
| 06:34.14 | billytwowilly | sarah03, Do you have any suggestions for other cool kicker applets? |
| 06:35.06 | billytwowilly | what is kompmgr? |
| 06:35.41 | sarah03 | billytwowilly: It's a slightly hacked up xcompmgr, for the most part. The thing that makes the Composite extension actually work. |
| 06:36.33 | billytwowilly | heh |
| 06:36.37 | billytwowilly | composite extension? |
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| 06:45.04 | Cam0 | how much space does konstruct use when isntalling with ./meta/kde/ ? |
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| 07:01.46 | light_punch2 | anyone know how to use this "telnet dict.org 2628" and lookup the definition for 'dog'? |
| 07:01.55 | light_punch2 | this is related to 'kdict' |
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| 07:02.25 | JabberWokky | telnet and use HELP |
| 07:02.32 | JabberWokky | SHOW DB, etc |
| 07:02.32 | light_punch2 | if i am on windows machine at work, i can't use kdict |
| 07:02.54 | JabberWokky | telnet there, and then type the four letters "HELP" |
| 07:02.56 | light_punch2 | i keep on getting syntax error |
| 07:02.59 | JabberWokky | D word |
| 07:03.34 | JabberWokky | D * dog |
| 07:03.35 | JabberWokky | For instance |
| 07:03.48 | JabberWokky | Where * is the database. |
| 07:03.58 | JabberWokky | (Aka, all databases) |
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| 07:27.41 | light_punch2 | where did the kdict developers found the port number for www.dict.org? |
| 07:28.39 | light_punch2 | i checked kdict's settings and found telnet dict.org 2628 |
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| 07:40.43 | Cam0 | konstruct has been compiling for 15 hours on a pIII 800, 256MB machine with fedora core 2 installed |
| 07:45.19 | Tpo1 | OOo took 1740 mins on my PIII 600 *shrug* |
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| 07:58.41 | tightcode | Good day everyone |
| 07:59.01 | sredna | Hello :) |
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| 07:59.57 | tightcode | where does konsole store its font settings ? After upgrading to 3.4 and logging back in from 3.3.2 it has been changed and I can't figure out how I had it set before so I would like to try to find the 3.3.2 config file (instead of logging out then back in with 3.3.2 :) |
| 08:00.38 | tightcode | Kind of silly that I can't find which font I was using, there aren't THAT many choices :( |
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| 08:03.06 | sredna | tightcode: Konsole defaults to the fixed-width font set in your KDE preferences. It's own settings is in KDEHOME/share/config/konsolerc (where KDEHOME is likely ~/.kde) |
| 08:03.55 | tightcode | thank you, I think I changed the default in 3.3.2 so it will hopefully be in that file *fingers crossed* :) |
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| 08:08.00 | sredna | Hi aseigo_work -- do you really work on sundays? :o |
| 08:09.35 | canllaith | Heya sredna :) How are you? |
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| 08:09.40 | sredna | Hi canllaith :) |
| 08:09.47 | sredna | I'm fine, thank you :) |
| 08:09.59 | canllaith | :P cool |
| 08:10.07 | sredna | I'm going to try and get my old perl plugin for kate working again today |
| 08:10.13 | sredna | And how are you? |
| 08:10.18 | tightcode | sredna: thank you, seems the info in the rc betwee .kde3.3 and .kde3.4 is the same, perhaps I have a very strong imagination although I am pretty certain font and sizing is slightly different. |
| 08:10.33 | canllaith | Good thank you. I have just spent the entire weekend getting windows onto my laptop, I need it for something work related |
| 08:10.41 | canllaith | finally I am finished. Stupid crap operating system |
| 08:10.42 | sredna | Idrk :o |
| 08:10.53 | tightcode | canllaith: my condoleances. |
| 08:11.23 | canllaith | I only have it a very little cage. It has only 4.9GB |
| 08:11.27 | canllaith | erm, gave it* |
| 08:11.39 | canllaith | So hopefully most of the time I can just forget it is there |
| 08:11.46 | sredna | tightcode: It's possible that for example your DPI setting for X changed with a new version of KDM |
| 08:11.47 | tightcode | on the subject of windows I found a readme yesterday for some educational program which was talking about how you had to restart the program after a few hours to keep it from crashing. |
| 08:11.59 | canllaith | heh |
| 08:12.26 | tightcode | their terms were funny too "How to prevent freeze framing"bla bla bla |
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| 08:13.04 | tightcode | makes you really feel sorry for those folks, haivng to close a program before leaving their computer for a cup of coffee or a WC trip. |
| 08:13.23 | tightcode | sredna: that sounds rather plausible. Is there anyway I could see if that is what happened ? |
| 08:14.20 | sredna | tightcode: Depends on your system. Look in kdms configuration file for how it starts the X server (KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/kdmrc) |
| 08:14.53 | tightcode | sredna: lovely, checking now I will compare the two versions see if I can find an interesting difference. |
| 08:16.26 | tightcode | sredna: out of luck, no kdmrc in that folder for .kde3.3 or .kde3.4 |
| 08:16.30 | tightcode | checking with locate |
| 08:16.49 | sredna | tightcode: KDEDIR is the install prefix for KDE, like /usr or /opt/kde |
| 08:16.50 | canllaith | No, it's a system wide one |
| 08:16.57 | canllaith | $KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
| 08:17.03 | sredna | tightcode: Not the same as KDEHOME |
| 08:17.10 | tightcode | sredna: yes sorry just noticed from locate's results that you said KDEDIR and not KDEHOME |
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| 08:17.38 | tightcode | now that I am blushing from shame dont look at me for about 2 minutes ;) |
| 08:19.04 | tightcode | wow he differences between 3.3 and 3.4 kdmrc are quite big |
| 08:22.07 | tightcode | sredna: don't see anything in there related to dpi, going to grep for it in the file in case I missed it with xxdiff |
| 08:22.22 | tightcode | any word you think it may be under in particular ? |
| 08:22.56 | tightcode | can't find "dpi" in either file |
| 08:23.43 | sredna | tightcode: The dpi is passed as an argument to X. I believe the older kdm had a specialized Xserver file with the command, while the new one specifies it in the cofig file |
| 08:24.10 | sredna | tightcode: Oh, and if that has changed, it will affect every font btw |
| 08:24.14 | sredna | Not only konsole |
| 08:24.41 | tightcode | I reconfigured the kde default fonts to how I had them before, but they look about right |
| 08:25.00 | tightcode | I just spend more time in konsole than anywhere else so i noticed it there most |
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| 08:26.37 | tightcode | sredna: checking forums and google about "kdm and dpi" thank you :) |
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| 08:32.59 | tightcode | sredna: anyway thanks again i am going to play around with some of these things and hopefulyl find what it is, by that time I will probably get used to the changes and it won't matter though ;) |
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| 08:33.06 | tightcode | cheers everyone and thanks for the help. |
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| 08:35.40 | sredna | Do I need semi after a namespace block? |
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| 08:39.03 | sarah03 | sredna: I don't think so, but I don't think stray semicolons really break anything, either. |
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| 08:39.30 | sarah03 | Hell, I terminate 'extern "C" {}' blocks with semicolons. |
| 08:39.31 | sredna | sarah03: Some compilers are picky about that, so thanks :) |
| 08:40.19 | sarah03 | All I really know in that regard is that they're required after class/struct/union/enum definitions. |
| 08:40.33 | davido | I have added Spanish to the keyboard tool in KDE, but it seems to be "half-working". I'm getting ñ and è etc. here but not in Kate and Kmail |
| 08:40.50 | davido | anyone have any suggestions? |
| 08:41.25 | sredna | davido: Set the encoding to somthing allowing your characters (utf-8 for example) |
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| 08:42.14 | davido | ok... seems strange, never had to do it before. |
| 08:45.22 | davido | sredna, did that in Kmail but is not helping composition... |
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| 08:50.02 | davido | same thing in Kate. This is weird... works a treat in the office :-\ |
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| 09:05.36 | sredna | davido: I believe both kmail and kate should pick up your default encoding. Kate has a setting for it if you want to change it |
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| 09:07.43 | davido | sredna, yeah, this is what I dont quite get. I have never had to fiddle with it before. It just seemed to work. The dead keys are there, but the combinations to get accents arent |
| 09:08.24 | sredna | davido: I wouldn't know why that happened |
| 09:08.47 | IRBMe | I just finished a fresh compile and install of KDE 3.3 (on 2.4 kernel) and everything seems fine until I try to log out of it. The first time it happened, it half-played the logout sound then completely froze with a black screen, frozen cursor, nothing responded and I couldn't ssh in. |
| 09:08.52 | davido | sredna, no worries, Ill perservere for a while... thakns |
| 09:08.56 | sredna | davido: I believe kde should try to pick up your system locale, if there is none it probably defaults to something like us_en |
| 09:09.00 | IRBMe | Anybody have any ideas why that would happen, or had anything similar, or know how to resolve it? |
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| 09:11.42 | sredna | IRBMe: Look at the ~/.xsession-errors file if you have one |
| 09:11.46 | neom | In Canada we have what is known as family and children services, it's a government program that proves counseling and foster homes and whatnot to kids who have issues at home. It's free. Anyone know the American equivalent? |
| 09:12.09 | sredna | IRBMe: It's overwritten for each session though, so you'd have to back it up between sessions to keep it |
| 09:12.46 | IRBMe | sredna, I had a look - there doesn't appear to be one. I checked after the first reboot. |
| 09:12.56 | sredna | neom: I think you are a wee bit OT here :o |
| 09:13.03 | IRBMe | I'm using xorg, not xfree86 by the way |
| 09:13.12 | sredna | IRBMe: Does the problem continue? |
| 09:13.17 | IRBMe | yes, every time. |
| 09:13.53 | sredna | IRBMe: What if you create a new user account, or a new ~/.kde directory (be sure to back up the old one) |
| 09:14.16 | IRBMe | It blows up with root and with my default user account |
| 09:14.28 | IRBMe | sound mysteriously stopped working after that too. The first time, it played the login sound fine, then like I said, it half-played the logout sound then froze. Now it doesn't play the login sound any more. |
| 09:15.14 | sredna | IRBMe: Hat if you turn off sound? |
| 09:15.17 | sredna | What |
| 09:15.49 | Cam0 | hrmm.. is 'rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm' to install a bad idea even if I have all the rpms available? |
| 09:16.00 | IRBMe | how would i turn the sound off exactly? |
| 09:16.18 | lippel | IRBMe: which graphics driver do you use? |
| 09:16.28 | IRBMe | it's on vmware lippel |
| 09:16.31 | sredna | Cam0: Not unless you know what deps you override. I'd ask in a OS specific channel if I were you |
| 09:16.31 | Cam0 | having dependency problems |
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| 09:17.12 | sredna | IRBMe: In the kde control center there is an option to disable the sound system |
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| 09:17.24 | tightcode | hello again everyone |
| 09:17.31 | sredna | Re, tightcode :) |
| 09:17.47 | IRBMe | sredna right, I'll try that now |
| 09:18.02 | tightcode | This may be perhaps silly but I believe I compiled with logitech-mouse support and I can't seem to find anything in kcontrol about it :) |
| 09:18.36 | tightcode | is it not actually a kcontrol module and placed somewhere else ? or did I simply do something wrong :/ |
| 09:21.07 | IRBMe | sredna success. After disabling the sound systen, I successfully logged out. |
| 09:21.59 | sredna | tightcode: It should be in the mouse panel. |
| 09:22.04 | IRBMe | Thanks alot. This'll do as a temporary fix, but do you have any suggestions for a more long-term fix which involves re-enaling the sound, and fixing the error? |
| 09:22.20 | sredna | IRBMe: Good. I never tried wmware, but that might cause problems with arts? |
| 09:22.26 | tightcode | sredna: under Peripherals -> Mouse ? |
| 09:22.31 | sredna | tightcode: Yes |
| 09:23.17 | tightcode | sredna: I must be blind, daft, or a combination thereof I see nothing specific to logitech in there :( |
| 09:23.32 | tightcode | I will recompile kdebase |
| 09:24.21 | IRBMe | sredna possible. Could merging alsa work? |
| 09:24.27 | sredna | tightcode: Look at the config.log first |
| 09:24.59 | sredna | IRBMe: I'm the wrong person to ask, as I have no experience with vmware |
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| 09:25.25 | tightcode | sredna: I am using gentoo I don't believe the config.logs are kept |
| 09:25.35 | IRBMe | actually, I used to have a system with alsa working fine in vmware. I'll try that. |
| 09:26.13 | IRBMe | well thanks for the help sredna ;) |
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| 09:26.24 | sredna | You are wellcome... |
| 09:30.40 | sredna | tightcode: I have the object compiled, but the tab is not available. Maybe it is only created if you actually use a logitech protocol for your mouse |
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| 09:31.15 | tightcode | ahh perhaps that is what hapened on my endI am going to see what I have for my mouse |
| 09:31.29 | tightcode | you mean in the xorg.conf or xfwhatever.conf ? |
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| 09:31.58 | lexNL | hi guys. |
| 09:32.00 | tightcode | I have IMPS/2 |
| 09:32.02 | we2by | any one knows if there is a linspoire theme for kde? I can't find the linspire theme onm the net :( |
| 09:32.05 | tightcode | hello lexNL |
| 09:32.25 | lexNL | anyone know how to turn off the big kicker tooltip animation thing? |
| 09:32.34 | slayerbob | yup |
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| 09:35.14 | lexNL | so, how does one turn off the big animated tooltip on the kicker panel? |
| 09:35.37 | tightcode | sredna: just looked at the list of possible protocols, should "Logitech" be used ;) |
| 09:36.09 | sredna | tightcode: If your mouse will work with it -- try and tell me how it went :) |
| 09:36.34 | tightcode | ok... we will see :) |
| 09:36.34 | sredna | lexNL: Launch the configuration dialog and disable it... |
| 09:37.17 | lexNL | sredna: kcontrol? I've been searching for it, but couldn't find anything that was it... I've probably overlooked it, where is it? |
| 09:37.33 | lexNL | I mean, I found control panel, but not the big animation thing |
| 09:37.54 | sredna | It's possibly oddly named, let me look.. |
| 09:38.55 | sredna | lexNL: Here, it's named 'Enable icon m ouseover effects' in the panel module, appearance tab |
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| 09:40.29 | lexNL | sredna: that easy! thanks. I figured that was the white-glow the icons got when you mouseover them. |
| 09:40.34 | lexNL | well, thanks sredna! |
| 09:40.54 | tightcode | sredna: checked another machine here, using Explorer/PS and it has the logitech tab, just says permissions are wrong so it can't access it. |
| 09:41.13 | sredna | lexNL: You are wellcome :) |
| 09:41.38 | sredna | tightcode: Hm, I wonder why it's not available here |
| 09:41.48 | tightcode | sredna: what protocol are you using ? |
| 09:41.52 | sredna | I can see the .lo object in my build dir |
| 09:42.12 | tightcode | what is it called so I can see if I have it already compiled properly ? |
| 09:42.47 | sredna | tightcode: I have a ifeel mouse, using IMPS/2 |
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| 09:43.07 | sredna | tightcode: Logitect.lo |
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| 09:45.01 | lexNL | sredna: 3.4 immediately becomes a lot better. :) ok, me offline, going for a reboot. |
| 09:45.06 | lexNL | thanks! |
| 09:45.06 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.14 | sredna | :) |
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| 09:49.57 | tightcode | thanks because I wasn't finding Logitech.lo |
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| 09:50.15 | tightcode | actually not finding logitechmouse.lo either |
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| 09:51.47 | lexNL | hiya guys, I've been trying kde 3.4, but when I open the media:// (or storage media option) and click on a drive, I get an fstab error. |
| 09:52.02 | sredna | tightcode: It looks like it checks the usb device list and tries to find a supported device, and add a tab for each one found |
| 09:52.12 | sredna | tightcode: So maybe your mouse is not supported |
| 09:52.13 | lexNL | like: /dev/hda2 not found in /etc/fstab |
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| 09:55.27 | tightcode | sredna: ok, I read somewhere that libusb being recompiled before kdebase could help, going to try that. |
| 09:55.52 | sredna | Ok |
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| 09:56.09 | woodefec | hello |
| 09:56.12 | tightcode | anyway thanks, I am going to leave the channel while I fuss with this :) |
| 09:56.33 | woodefec | any idea why's k3b crashhing when addin some wav-files to audio compilation? |
| 09:56.35 | tightcode | sredna: I appreciate all the help sredna, thanks again |
| 09:56.50 | sredna | You are wellcome |
| 09:56.57 | tightcode | ciao everyone |
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| 09:57.01 | woodefec | i allready run 0.11.22 and its still doing it |
| 09:57.42 | woodefec | i see in web searching that more people have this problem - in knoppix 3.7, suse and other distrosa |
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| 09:59.27 | woodefec | im goin - need a good morinng meal |
| 09:59.30 | woodefec | cya |
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| 10:16.48 | chimaera | is anyone aware of an applet fpr cpugreqd? |
| 10:17.21 | chimaera | for cpufreqd.. |
| 10:17.28 | sredna | Sucky kicker :( |
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| 10:37.05 | Flendor | Hallo. |
| 10:37.09 | c-101 | Does the enable-pch flag in configure work only with unsermake ? |
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| 11:08.28 | dsafda | oglehi guys, I've a great problem I googled but I didn't solve the problem that is very hard!!! :( |
| 11:08.42 | dsafda | I updated my SuSE 9.1 to the 9.2 |
| 11:08.56 | dsafda | a lot of time ago, then I updated in these days the KDE to the 3.4 with the RPMs created for SuSE 9.2 |
| 11:09.04 | dsafda | I receive an error, I think it's related to the kdmrc something similar... I cannot find which is the problem |
| 11:09.12 | dsafda | I receive the log screen, with the panel in which you can choose the user u write the password, then the X restart and I'm again at the starting point! |
| 11:09.22 | dsafda | can I do something to reset the situation? With an automatic re-configuration? |
| 11:09.30 | dsafda | it's strange coz I updated it to the every 3.9x of KDE and I didn't find any problem |
| 11:09.43 | dsafda | any of you can help me to find the way, please? |
| 11:11.28 | sredna | dsafda: Most likely your kdmrc needs some love |
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| 11:11.55 | sredna | dsafda: Look at where is looks for its sessions, and make sure that that directoy contains a valid .desktop file for kde 3.4 |
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| 11:17.40 | dsafda | sredna, it's not possible to use yours? |
| 11:17.57 | dsafda | or maybe to download a standard version? I can backup the one I have now... |
| 11:17.58 | sredna | dsafda: I have no idea about how suse works |
| 11:18.01 | sredna | Never used it |
| 11:18.10 | Flendor | Hello sredna :) How are you today? |
| 11:18.17 | dsafda | yes it's needed u have SuSE to do so... |
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| 11:23.45 | dsafda | anyone with SuSE 9.2 may send me his kdmrc, please? |
| 11:23.56 | Mobilici | Hi! Any Kopete experts in here? Is it possible to configure different notifications for different IRC channels? ie, no notification for really busy channels and a passive popup for "private" channels? |
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| 11:24.22 | Bille | Mobilici: moin |
| 11:24.31 | Mobilici | dsafda: If kdm starts but logging in simply restarts X, the kdmrc is probably ok. kde "just" fails to start so look for the problem there. |
| 11:24.51 | Bille | dsafda: is kdm broken after a kde upgrade? |
| 11:24.52 | Mobilici | dsafda: Did you check all available log files for errors? /var/log/kdm & Co? |
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| 11:26.15 | dsafda | mmm Mobilici, I catted the log file, and I receive an error related to the fonts... |
| 11:26.17 | dsafda | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 11:26.17 | dsafda | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local, removing from list! |
| 11:26.17 | dsafda | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, removing from list! |
| 11:26.17 | dsafda | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list! |
| 11:26.40 | dsafda | I need to reinstall the fonts? |
| 11:27.11 | dsafda | Bille, yes I updated kdm and the full KDE to the 3.4 released |
| 11:27.39 | Mobilici | dsafda: These font error are not critical. |
| 11:27.42 | Bille | dsafda: 1 minute, finding the solution... |
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| 11:31.54 | Bille | dsafda: there was a prob with kdm in 9.2 betas, try this to regenerate your kdmrc: |
| 11:32.04 | Bille | "/opt/kde3/bin/genkdmconf --no-old --in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/" |
| 11:32.14 | Bille | then "rcxdm restart" |
| 11:32.54 | Bille | ok? |
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| 11:33.45 | dim | hi there ! |
| 11:34.00 | dim | thx for the amazing new kde release ! |
| 11:34.11 | dim | but i think i'm in front of a nasty bug... |
| 11:34.29 | dim | in my kde session i have kontact and kopete started automatically |
| 11:34.49 | dim | and what happens seems like a deadlock on kdewalletmanager |
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| 11:35.16 | dim | i have to kill (xkill, via Ctrl-Alt-Esc) kopete for kontact to ask me my wallet passwd |
| 11:35.36 | dim | then if i restart kopete it's able to connect... |
| 11:36.06 | dim | is this bug to be filled upon kopete, kontact, kmail or kwalletmanager ? |
| 11:36.20 | Bille_kopete | dim: are you using IMAP groupware resources? |
| 11:36.52 | Bille_kopete | (from kmail) |
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| 11:40.44 | dsafda | Bille, I was trying directly on the PC, not from SSH, but it won't solve the logging... :( |
| 11:41.29 | Bille | dsafda: is kdm not working at all, or are there just some errors in the logfile? |
| 11:41.46 | Bille | Mobilici: ping |
| 11:42.46 | Mobilici | Bille_kopete: Yes? |
| 11:43.29 | Bille | Mobilici: custom notifications are supposed to let you do that for IRC in kopete, yes |
| 11:43.43 | Bille | Mobilici: unfortunately i've just been testing it and it seems to work with everything apart from IRC :( |
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| 11:45.38 | dim | Bille: yes, groupware imap on one server, and imap on another |
| 11:46.27 | Bille | dim: it's a deadlock caused by kopete calling kmail by dcop at the same time as kmail (in kontact) calls kopete by dcop |
| 11:46.39 | dsafda | Bille, I think kdm works coz it starts but it still restarts to the logging panel |
| 11:46.41 | Bille | i thought it was fixed, :( |
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| 11:47.28 | dim | Bille: it's seems to be a known bug... should I fill a new one, reopen an existing one ? |
| 11:47.28 | Bille | dsafda: i don't understand - kdm starts, and stays running, or starts, and disappears again, back to a text console? |
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| 11:47.43 | dim | i'm using kde 3.4 packaging from the alioth debian repository |
| 11:47.46 | dsafda | it stays running... O_o' |
| 11:47.47 | Bille | dim: please find the existing one |
| 11:47.54 | dsafda | wait for my login, then X restart |
| 11:48.01 | dim | may be they are not using the right sources/options |
| 11:48.13 | dsafda | and I'm again at the starting point |
| 11:48.27 | Bille | dim: actually i hope they have, if the bug is still there i'm in trouble ;) |
| 11:48.36 | dsafda | it asks me the password for the user |
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| 11:49.19 | dim | Bille: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ |
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| 11:49.37 | dim | here are the debian packages I used (which led me to the deadlock bug) |
| 11:49.45 | Bille | dsafda: dunno, am running suse. i'll see if i can reproduce it with our rpms... |
| 11:49.51 | Bille | s/dsafda/dim/ |
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| 11:50.24 | Bille | dim: is kontact supposed to remember your imap password in kwallet? |
| 11:50.54 | dsafda | Bille, ehm... I'm Italian what does mean "s/dsafda/dim/" ? |
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| 11:52.19 | Bille | dsafda: it means "replace dsafda with dim" |
| 11:52.30 | dim | Bille: i store each and every passwd asked by a kde app in my wallet |
| 11:53.00 | Bille | dim: can you try setting a null kwallet password and see if the deadlock goes away? |
| 11:53.03 | dim | dsafda: regular-expression.info |
| 11:53.22 | dsafda | guys... I'm not following u........ :P |
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| 11:54.02 | dim | dsafda: Bille is surely using some auto-completion feature in his irc client, and d <TAB> gives your nick first, not mine ;) |
| 11:54.14 | Bille | dsafda: "dsafda: dunno, am running suse... " above, was intended for dim, not you, but i made a mistake, so i used a coder slang to correct it :) |
| 11:54.15 | dsafda | ooooo OK.... :D |
| 11:54.41 | dim | null passwd, as in a blanck string ? "" ? |
| 11:54.41 | Bille | dim: let me know if that fixes it |
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| 11:54.45 | Bille | dim: yup |
| 11:55.05 | dim | you want this null pass for the kopete accounts or the kontact one ? |
| 11:55.28 | Bille | dim: for kwallet |
| 11:55.42 | Bille | to open the wallet, not for the accounts... |
| 11:55.48 | dim | oh, ok |
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| 11:59.44 | dim | Bille_away: now I have kmail window out of kontact container |
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| 12:01.50 | dim | and resetting my kdewallet passwd fixes that « kpart » (?) bug |
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| 12:13.12 | ep | The konqueror web browser looks identical to Firefox (KDE 3.3.2). Does it use the gecko engine to? |
| 12:14.25 | dim | ep: no, khtml is the rendering engine (used also by the safari project) |
| 12:15.22 | ep | It seems pretty fast. |
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| 12:18.29 | dim | ep: it's said (and if you believe some web sites, proven) to be some of the fastest ;) |
| 12:18.39 | dim | fastest starting up time |
| 12:18.43 | dim | iirc |
| 12:19.34 | ep | I gonna download flash (with reservations) I can use the flash plugin on multiple browsers, can't I? |
| 12:20.37 | Mobilici | Sure. |
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| 12:22.07 | canllaith | Alethes: you around? |
| 12:22.59 | sycofly | no |
| 12:23.12 | ep | Firefox is a bigger memory footprint, what additional functionality does it offer? |
| 12:23.16 | sredna | Yucky sucky kicker |
| 12:23.40 | sredna | There must be some weird incompatibility in the kickerpager applet |
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| 12:24.55 | sredna | ep: Firefox loads an entire GUI library of it's own, in addition to gtk on which that is based. And apart from .5% more pages working with it, and a newer flash plugin, it provides only uglier rendering :o |
| 12:25.23 | uzimonkey | is there any way to always have media:/ URLs open in konq with the File Management view profile? |
| 12:25.32 | Mobilici | epiphanni: Depends. Gecko display some pages better, but some worse. FireFox's JavaScript/ECMAScript support ist better, I think. Additionally there are lots of nice extension modules for firefox, for power users and web developers. |
| 12:25.47 | Mobilici | Wrong nick... |
| 12:26.14 | Mobilici | However, FireFox ist slow as hell, and, as sredna said, it renders the pages pretty ugly IMHO. |
| 12:26.36 | Mobilici | Additionally Konqui (naturally) integrates much better with the whole desktop environment. |
| 12:26.42 | Zeep | Hm, I'm using Firefox as my default browser - but with Plastik-Style, otherwise I couldn't stand the look ;-) |
| 12:26.55 | uzimonkey | not to mention saving quite a bit of RAM, since Konq is already in memory for KDE |
| 12:27.00 | dim | i used to use FireFox webdeveloper extension for web developments, nowadays (for more than one year in fact) i only use konq ;) |
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| 12:27.18 | Mobilici | I virtually exclusively use Konqui, it works pretty well and is a pretty cool and very fast browser. |
| 12:27.23 | Zeep | Firefox + Konqueror, dream team ;-) |
| 12:27.31 | mfx- | hi |
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| 12:28.12 | Zeep | I'm using KDE since 2001, and never liked Konqueror, altough I have to admit that nowadays, Konqueror is pretty cool |
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| 12:28.42 | Mobilici | I'm using KDE since 1997 and Konqueror as my main browser since some KDE 2.x... ;) |
| 12:28.57 | Zeep | lol |
| 12:29.05 | Mobilici | Hell, it went a long way since its debut in KDE 2.0. :-) |
| 12:29.14 | dim | Zeep: while developing a full CSS positionning web solution (for TUTOS 2) I've found konq a real nice tool to use |
| 12:29.20 | PieD | I'm browsing the web with konqueror since 10 months |
| 12:29.25 | dim | nicer than firefox and its extensions |
| 12:29.26 | PieD | and using KDE since KDE 2.0 |
| 12:30.07 | Mobilici | epiphanni: FireFox's XML+XSLT-support is much better I think. But then, I've never really used/tried that. |
| 12:30.21 | Mobilici | And Konqui does no MathML AFAIK. |
| 12:30.33 | Mobilici | But I've never used that as well so far... |
| 12:30.44 | PieD | but firefox doesn't support kpdf in tabs |
| 12:30.51 | PieD | firefox doesn't support window splitting |
| 12:31.01 | PieD | firefox doesn't support multimedia player in tabs |
| 12:31.08 | PieD | firefox doesn't support kword in tabs |
| 12:31.09 | PieD | and so on |
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| 12:31.34 | Zeep | PieD: Multimedia player??? |
| 12:31.43 | PieD | kaffeine for instance |
| 12:31.55 | PieD | with kparts it can "go" inside a tab of konqueror |
| 12:31.56 | Mobilici | No, as I said, it doesn't really integrate into the desktop, which Konqui does nearly perfectly. |
| 12:31.56 | Zeep | PieD: Ah, okay - or amaroK sidebar, right? |
| 12:32.05 | PieD | or amaroK sidebar, yes |
| 12:32.06 | dim | FF is just not an integrated component of your desktop |
| 12:32.23 | ep | I'll probably switch to kong, since i'm kde and its in memory anyway. Firefox and similar makes the transition from Windows seem more comfortable. Generally, I like to use software my parents and friends also use. |
| 12:32.43 | Zeep | dim: Of course, that's true. But I do not have too much of a problem with GTK-QT (http://www.freedesktop.org) and Plastik-Style |
| 12:32.54 | dim | ep: so you may have to convince your friends and parents to use kde and konqueror ;)) |
| 12:32.55 | Mobilici | I got my first Palm 2 weeks ago and since then also fell in love with the KDE PIM suite. ;) |
| 12:33.14 | Mobilici | epiphanni: Yes, that'd be the solution, no? ;) |
| 12:33.17 | Mobilici | Grrr... |
| 12:33.26 | Zeep | Kontact is really a wonderful solution, I think |
| 12:33.28 | Mobilici | Why does Kopete replace the nick I enter?!? |
| 12:33.34 | ep | These people are floored when they see KDE. :-) |
| 12:33.53 | Zeep | Nowadays, everyone uses GNOME ;-) |
| 12:33.57 | Zeep | just kidding |
| 12:34.04 | jsubl2 | where can i get info on akode |
| 12:34.13 | dim | Zeep: the look&feel is only one part of the scheme... you'd like the app to handle effectively D&D, to use kwalletmanager for passwds, to use your desktop helper apps in its window frames, and so on |
| 12:34.55 | Zeep | dim: Of course, that's true - I really miss KDE Walltet support in Firefox/Thunderbird, altough they have their own built-in solution |
| 12:35.59 | dim | and what about kolab/kopete sharing contacts, kmail informing you wether the sender of the mail you're reading is online or not, ... |
| 12:36.02 | Mobilici | Right - kWallet is one of the coolest recent additions to KDE. Especially with kwallet support in KDE 3.4's kMail. :-) |
| 12:36.20 | dim | and kde tools are prettier than mozilla ones ;) |
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| 12:37.04 | Zeep | hehe, i admit that you are right :-) |
| 12:37.05 | Mobilici | KDE really got an awesome desktop all-in-one-solution in the last few years. |
| 12:37.58 | Mobilici | The only annoying things are a few rough edges here and there, and some bugs/things which do'nt work as advertised, but there are less of these problems with every release. |
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| 12:38.39 | dim | in fact since my kde adoption, i'm wondering about learning C++ ;) |
| 12:38.46 | Zeep | Yeah, but take a look at GNOME-screenshots - they are going to remind you why you are using KDE ;-) |
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| 12:40.00 | Zeep | lol |
| 12:40.05 | sarah03 | lol |
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| 12:40.18 | dim | gnome seems to be offering a nice desktop solution for hackers tired of wmaker or icewm |
| 12:40.23 | ep | I think it hurts productivity to work in an ugly environment! |
| 12:40.45 | dim | but the « integration » does not seem to be on the plan ;) |
| 12:41.19 | dim | are there any projects like beagle, tomboy and dashboard on the run for KDE ? |
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| 12:42.02 | PieD | dim: perhaps klink is what you want, but it is only plans |
| 12:42.08 | PieD | no code yet |
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| 12:50.24 | Bille | dim: problem solved or worked around? |
| 12:55.20 | dim | when setting null passwd to kwalletmanager, kmail would not stay in kontact kpart |
| 12:55.30 | dim | but i had no more deadlock |
| 12:56.05 | dim | but i didn't try this solution on startup time, i just had quitted the wallet app |
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| 12:57.52 | Bille | ok, let me know.. i'm not sure if the deadlock is due to KIMProxy or KWallet... |
| 12:57.55 | Bille | (dim) |
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| 12:59.14 | dim | Bille: i'll try to make some tests then let you know ! |
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| 13:21.09 | m-e-t | i get a failed checksum test with konstruct on xine-lib |
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| 13:25.11 | sangria1 | I am getting a weird problem on my SimplyMEPIS distro. I can login fine as root but not as users normally like this post states: http://www.mepis.org/node/2296 |
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| 13:25.55 | sangria1 | I create a new user, that did not work. Any idea? |
| 13:27.06 | grepper | sangria1: anything interesting in the logs ? |
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| 13:28.12 | sangria1 | which log? XFree86 or something else? |
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| 13:29.23 | grepper | sangria1: depends how far it got |
| 13:29.36 | grepper | also ~/.xsession-errors |
| 13:29.42 | dim | sangria1: grep kdm /var/log/auth.org also |
| 13:29.57 | grepper | and kdm.log if you used kdm and have this log |
| 13:30.59 | sangria1 | I am getting the same black screen for a while and then the login window again (a kind of loop) |
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| 13:33.05 | grepper | ok, then probably the XFree log and kdm.log |
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| 13:35.00 | m-e-t | i get a failed checksum test with konstruct on xine-lib. how can that be? |
| 13:35.16 | grepper | sometimes its as simple as /tmp/.ICE-unix needing to be owned by root |
| 13:35.35 | r00tsh3ll | m-e-t, dunno but i can disable the checksum if u want... |
| 13:35.41 | r00tsh3ll | you* |
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| 13:37.10 | Sero | Does anyone in here use SuperKaramba? |
| 13:37.39 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, me |
| 13:37.46 | m-e-t | r00tsh3ll: how? |
| 13:37.56 | Julianyus | hi |
| 13:38.08 | Sero | r00tsh3ll, can you tell me why whenever I run a theme, it is surrounded in black? |
| 13:38.37 | r00tsh3ll | m-e-t, editing the script file.. take a look in the README file i forgot the name of the file that u should modify... |
| 13:38.44 | Sero | I'm using the OsXbar and the actual "window" around it, that should be transparent, is black. |
| 13:38.50 | Sero | Actually they ALL do that. |
| 13:39.11 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, hum.. no idea.. :( |
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| 13:42.59 | m-e-t | r00tsh3ll: ok, i found out the archive which contains xine-lib is somehow damaged. now, can i just delete it so that gar downloads it again? |
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| 13:43.54 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, :-D take a look!! http://www.superkaramba.com/faq.html#Troubleshooting2 |
| 13:44.12 | PieD | does somebody knows a good KDE sound editor |
| 13:44.21 | PieD | (I only want to cut parts of the file...) |
| 13:45.12 | dim | audacity (sorry, gtk project) |
| 13:45.15 | r00tsh3ll | m-e-t, enter in the package directory and type make install |
| 13:45.40 | PieD | dim: I want audacity only if there is no KDE or Gtk2 app doing that |
| 13:45.57 | PieD | because I don't really want to install a gtk1 app with all the gtk1 libs |
| 13:46.03 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, is that? |
| 13:47.02 | dim | PieD: then have a look at sox, you won't be bothered with any toolkit ;) |
| 13:48.24 | dim | PieD: or have a look at http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ and http://www.muse-sequencer.org/ |
| 13:48.45 | Sero | r00tsh3ll, there we go it fixed. |
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| 13:50.24 | claudio | hi... after installing 3.4 on mdk, I got many duplicate menu entries (in kcontrol, for example, and in kmenu). Trying to configure konqueror, it displays a panel that shows only "Empy page"... |
| 13:50.25 | claudio | :/ |
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| 13:50.36 | r00tsh3ll | m-e-t, if u want to download it again u have to set in the gar.conf.mk.in the variabe GARCHIVEDIR with the path where the packages that u already downloaded are. so, konstruct will check which one is missing and will download it.. |
| 13:50.45 | PieD | claudio: it is a mandrake problem, not a KDE problem ! |
| 13:51.02 | Sero | How do I make the KDE taskbar permanentally go away? |
| 13:51.24 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, right click remove app... |
| 13:51.31 | r00tsh3ll | and select taskbar |
| 13:51.32 | m-e-t | r00tsh3ll: i already fixed it, using portage to download it and copying the directory to libs/xine-lib/work |
| 13:51.48 | claudio | PieD: yes, but this is a "customized" mdk :) I really like to know how kde acts this way... sorry |
| 13:52.23 | r00tsh3ll | m-e-t, good :) |
| 13:52.30 | Sero | r00tsh3ll, it is still there. |
| 13:54.09 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, are u sure that u selected 'remove from panel' ' applet' ' taskbar' ? |
| 13:54.30 | Sero | Oh I want to remove the whole panel. ^^ Sorry. |
| 13:54.32 | r00tsh3ll | i did it here to test and worked... |
| 13:54.34 | r00tsh3ll | :) |
| 13:55.59 | r00tsh3ll | Sero, hum.. i'm not sure so.. right click over panel and select 'help' 'panel handbook' must be in somewhere there.. |
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| 14:07.02 | ar3dam | hi there, i need to take screenshot, how can do it ? |
| 14:07.22 | apokryphos | ar3dam: ksnapshot |
| 14:07.45 | apokryphos | or you can use imagemagick |
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| 14:16.48 | Rene_S | G'day |
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| 14:30.09 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 15:14.50 | eros | pykde is fun! |
| 15:16.29 | PieD | eros: python is fun :) |
| 15:17.06 | eros | PieD: sure, even because it was a konsole script that spammed 'pykde is fun' to all channels in konversation :-) |
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| 15:23.37 | Darien | can anyone suggest a good KDE MP3 player? |
| 15:23.58 | Darien | there´s a pretty fantastic one a friend uses, but I don´t remember what it´s called |
| 15:24.05 | lippel | amarok? |
| 15:25.00 | lippel | or juk |
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| 15:25.09 | estel | hi |
| 15:25.45 | estel | how are the desktop icons arranged? my .directory file ist empty, but kde 'remembers' my desktop positions - how does this work? |
| 15:28.51 | Darien | lippel: it was amarok, thanks much :) |
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| 15:29.12 | oleczek | estel: kde is magic ;P |
| 15:29.35 | estel | oleczek: but nothing happens magicly ;-) |
| 15:30.38 | PieD | DagaZ: amarok powaaaaaaaa |
| 15:30.49 | PieD | oops |
| 15:30.59 | PieD | it was Darien |
| 15:31.01 | PieD | sorry :/ |
| 15:31.12 | thiago | estel: logical conclusion: the icon position is stored somewhere else |
| 15:31.54 | estel | cool, but where? |
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| 15:36.30 | Bille | http://www.stevello.free-online.co.uk/kopete/emoticon_contact_list.png |
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| 15:41.46 | thiago | estel: somewhere in kdesktop's configuration |
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| 15:49.55 | ZeeGeek | what causes KDE to produce the error "QFile::open: No file name specified" all the time? if I switched to console, I'll never get an alive KDE when I switch back. |
| 15:54.26 | sredna | ZeeGeek: What are you trying to do? |
| 15:55.24 | ZeeGeek | sredna: i just started KDE, and that error kept on coming |
| 15:56.13 | sredna | ZeeGeek: Have you been able to run that version of KDE before? |
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| 15:56.29 | ZeeGeek | sredna: no, I've just updated |
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| 15:56.41 | ZeeGeek | sredna: it's 3.3.2 |
| 15:56.45 | uludag | merhaba |
| 15:57.02 | uludag | orada kimse var mı? |
| 15:57.17 | sredna | ZeeGeek: Try moving (renaming) your ~/.kde directory and see if it could be something in your session |
| 15:57.37 | ZeeGeek | sredna: okay, I'll try. brb |
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| 16:03.58 | ralf | hi |
| 16:04.48 | ralf | how can i turn off the workspace switching with the mouse at the edge of the display? |
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| 16:07.21 | b00 | hello |
| 16:07.31 | b00 | whats that uml modelling prog called ? |
| 16:07.33 | b00 | for kde |
| 16:07.50 | lippel | b00: umbrello |
| 16:09.54 | b00 | lippel: thanks |
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| 16:17.18 | ZeeGeek | sredna: the QFile error was gone, but it still dies when i get back from console |
| 16:17.50 | ralf | everytime i move my cursor to the edge of my screen it switches the workspace. how can i turn this of? |
| 16:17.55 | ralf | i think its new in 3.4 |
| 16:18.00 | ZeeGeek | sredna: i got the error "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3" |
| 16:18.05 | sredna | ZeeGeek: The latter is likely a system misconfiguration |
| 16:19.15 | ZeeGeek | sredna: will it be the X server? |
| 16:19.43 | sredna | ZeeGeek: It sounds like some incompatibility. |
| 16:19.57 | sredna | ZeeGeek: Did you install binary packages from varying sources? |
| 16:20.20 | lippel | ralf: have you turned that on? it's not default i believe (don't know the config option) |
| 16:20.26 | ZeeGeek | sredna: I'm using Gentoo, i compiled it |
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| 16:20.56 | ZeeGeek | sredna: I mean I did an emerge |
| 16:21.16 | sredna | ZeeGeek: You mean you are a gentoo user, and updated using portage. |
| 16:21.27 | ZeeGeek | sredna: yeah |
| 16:21.51 | sredna | ZeeGeek: I had a problem with not beeing able to get back from a console, but that was a problem with my kernel at the time |
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| 16:22.24 | ZeeGeek | sredna: :) |
| 16:22.50 | ZeeGeek | sredna: what was the problem with the kernel? |
| 16:23.21 | sredna | ralf: In the Window Behavior control panel, there is a group for configuring that |
| 16:23.29 | sredna | ralf: In the advanced tab |
| 16:23.40 | sredna | ZeeGeek: Something related to framebuffer |
| 16:24.37 | ZeeGeek | sredna: i noticed that when I switched back to KDE, the screen messed up, and there were certain lines which were floating slowly like water |
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| 16:24.58 | sredna | ZeeGeek: Bad X configuration |
| 16:25.28 | sredna | I really need to go to the shop before they close |
| 16:25.34 | ZeeGeek | sredna: cool |
| 16:25.36 | ZeeGeek | sredna: thanx |
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| 16:26.07 | fubart | Hi |
| 16:26.46 | fubart | What programs do I have to start so all necesary kde background stuff runs (so it doesn't take so long for the first kde app I run to start)? |
| 16:28.21 | ralf | thanks sredna! thanks a million |
| 16:28.31 | ralf | that "feature" annoyed me like crap |
| 16:30.15 | cryos | Anyone here want to help point out how I have fundamentally missed the point with KDE/Qt programming? I was trying to come up with a nice patch to make kasteroids work and seem to have failed miserably both times... |
| 16:30.16 | grepper | fubart: kdeinit afaik will help a lot |
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| 16:30.43 | m-e-t | once more, i need konstruct help... |
| 16:31.00 | thiago | cryos: can you be a bit less vague? :) |
| 16:31.04 | fubart | grepper: Ok, I'll try adding that to my .xinitrc |
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| 16:31.27 | cryos | thiago: Use of dynamic_cast in kasteroids, bug 101542. |
| 16:31.34 | thiago | ah |
| 16:31.36 | m-e-t | http://phpfi.com/54978 |
| 16:31.36 | thiago | I saw that |
| 16:31.44 | thiago | you changed the dynamic_cast to static_cast, right? |
| 16:31.52 | cryos | Yes. |
| 16:32.10 | cryos | I was told it was nonsense - and would like to understand why. |
| 16:32.28 | cryos | As it does make the game work here, before it segfaulted. |
| 16:32.56 | thiago | well, Maks is right |
| 16:33.08 | thiago | dynamic_cast is a static_cast with run-time checking |
| 16:33.22 | cryos | As I said - I am really just trying to understand more as it seems I am missing something. |
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| 16:33.32 | thiago | cryos: btw, comment #2 was me. |
| 16:33.41 | thiago | cryos: do you have a backtrace? |
| 16:34.14 | cryos | thiago: That was my next step - rebuild with full debugging symbols. I do have cout, and every time e = 0 when using dynamic_cast. |
| 16:34.30 | thiago | that means the QEvent is not a QKeyEvent |
| 16:35.00 | thiago | anyways, *every* time you do a dynamic_cast, you have to check if the result is 0 or not |
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| 16:35.16 | cryos | I added a check to only run the event handlers if e !=0, this isn't currently checked. |
| 16:35.30 | thiago | kasteroids seems to assume that, if the type is QEvent::AccelOverride, then the object is a QKeyEvent |
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| 16:35.40 | cryos | Then the keys don't work, unless I add the static_cast inside the conditionals. |
| 16:36.15 | cryos | Does kasteroids work for you unmodified? |
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| 16:36.51 | thiago | QEvent isn't a QObject |
| 16:37.07 | bobesponja | hey all |
| 16:37.18 | m-e-t | http://phpfi.com/54978 does anyone know why i get this error with the stable konstruct? |
| 16:37.18 | bobesponja | I have a little question |
| 16:37.33 | bobesponja | I did apply the patch from that bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100963 |
| 16:37.37 | thiago | but it is a virtual class |
| 16:37.42 | bobesponja | now how can I reinstall that file? |
| 16:37.54 | thiago | I don't see how a dynamic_cast could fail if the class type is right |
| 16:38.09 | bobesponja | I tried to retype make install but it tells me "nothing to be done" |
| 16:38.12 | bobesponja | grrrr |
| 16:38.17 | bobesponja | anyone? :) |
| 16:38.50 | thiago | cryos: can you add a cout << typeof(event)->name() << endl? |
| 16:39.36 | cryos | thiago: Yeah sure - I will try that now, I don't understand why the dynamic_cast fails either. |
| 16:40.18 | thiago | cryos: there's only one reason for it to fail, short of a bug: the event parameter isn't a QKeyEvent |
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| 16:40.40 | thiago | bobesponja: where did you type "make"? |
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| 16:40.58 | bobesponja | in kdelibs/khtml/html |
| 16:41.04 | bobesponja | thiago: in /html_formimpl.cpp |
| 16:41.08 | thiago | try going one level up |
| 16:42.13 | bobesponja | thiago: ok |
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| 16:43.24 | bobesponja | thiago: by the way any idea why I get plenty of "libtool: link: warning: `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.la' seems to be moved"? |
| 16:43.28 | thiago | cryos: by the way, I disagree with Maks: your second patch is correct. |
| 16:43.43 | thiago | bobesponja: because libXrender.la seems to have been moved |
| 16:44.06 | cryos | thiago: I did a fair bit of reading and thought it seemed to be a clean and correct patch, but I am open to being taught otherwise :) |
| 16:44.26 | cryos | thiago: What header is typeof in? Can't seem to find it... |
| 16:44.37 | thiago | cryos: the Qt docs say that if type() == AccelOverride, the object is a QKeyEvent |
| 16:45.16 | Quinn_Storm | cryos: typeof...I thought that was a language keyword |
| 16:45.50 | thiago | yes, but I don't think it's "typeof" |
| 16:46.25 | cryos | It is throwing an error for typeof or std::typeof |
| 16:47.22 | thiago | it's "typeid" |
| 16:47.23 | thiago | sorry |
| 16:47.29 | thiago | I knew it was not like "sizeof" |
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| 16:47.54 | thiago | you may need to #include <typeinfo> |
| 16:48.11 | thiago | and it's typeid(event).name(), not -> as I said before |
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| 16:50.10 | PEACEYALL | hellosup all |
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| 16:50.32 | cryos | Got it now - P6QEvent, although it still segfaults here if using dynamic_cast |
| 16:52.28 | thiago | QEvent... |
| 16:52.28 | cryos | thiago: It is the same event when using my patch too, but it does not segfault. |
| 16:52.55 | thiago | are you running it in gdb? |
| 16:53.04 | cryos | Not right now. |
| 16:53.25 | thiago | no debugging symbols, right? |
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| 16:53.38 | fubart | Hi |
| 16:53.46 | cryos | No - but I can recompile with debugging symbols if that helps to get to the bottom of this. |
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| 16:54.04 | cryos | It will just take me a while... |
| 16:54.17 | thr1ce | can I use my firefox plugins towards konq ? |
| 16:54.35 | fubart | how do I get kicker to display on all desktops? |
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| 16:54.56 | cryos | I have a segfault from within gdb, 0x00002aaaabbf6fd7 in KKey::init(QKeyEvent const*) (), from /usr/kde/3.4/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 |
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| 16:55.24 | cryos | That is the dynamic_cast version of it. |
| 16:55.39 | thiago | cryos: type 'bt' and paste the result in http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 16:55.53 | thiago | cryos: please come to #kde-devel |
| 16:56.53 | cryos | thiago: OK. |
| 16:57.23 | fubart | I used my WM (openbox) to tell it to stay on all desktops but that didn't change athing, when switching desktops it throws a few 'WARNING: DCOPReply<>: cast to 'QString' error' messages on the console I started it from, though |
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| 17:12.42 | PEACEYALL | when i try and do startkde , it sas Could not start ldeinit, pls check ure installation , i used konstruct to install verison 3.4 , and the error of the could not start kdeinit.. message is . look here: http://onlyfree.de/php/pasteservice/show.php?id=58 |
| 17:13.02 | PEACEYALL | so what should i do |
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| 17:14.10 | DeuX | anyone knows where KDE build the settings:/ kioslave group from? |
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| 17:18.08 | amiroff | guys, how do I disable smooth scroll in konqueror (kde 3.4) ? |
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| 17:24.01 | Paleo | how can I enable the devices:// protocol in konqueror ? |
| 17:24.09 | Paleo | it says "unauthorized" when I open the tab |
| 17:24.25 | njaard | Paleo: try media:/ |
| 17:25.04 | sredna | DeuX: It's similar to the kde control center tree, and the files are in KDEDIR/share/applications/kde among all the other application .desktop files |
| 17:25.23 | njaard | PEACEYALL: your $PATH is wrong |
| 17:25.25 | Paleo | njaard it work |
| 17:25.35 | njaard | hi sredna |
| 17:25.36 | Paleo | since 3.4, devices:/ does not exist anymore ? |
| 17:25.39 | sredna | Hi njaard |
| 17:25.50 | njaard | Paleo: so it seems |
| 17:26.07 | PEACEYALL | njaard what should i do |
| 17:26.08 | PEACEYALL | ? |
| 17:26.24 | njaard | PEACEYALL: where did you install KDE to? |
| 17:26.50 | PEACEYALL | with konstruct , it installed it to ~/kde3.4 |
| 17:26.57 | Paleo | njaard still, it's not the same thing |
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| 17:27.07 | njaard | export PATH=$HOME/kde3.4/bin:$PATH |
| 17:27.08 | Paleo | It shows device node, not mounted devices |
| 17:27.23 | njaard | and also export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/kde3.4/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 17:27.35 | PEACEYALL | njaard where do i type that , in my home directory? |
| 17:27.37 | njaard | Paleo: works for me... |
| 17:27.48 | njaard | PEACEYALL: you type it. |
| 17:27.53 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 17:28.03 | njaard | ... in the same shell as the one you run startkde in |
| 17:28.25 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 17:28.27 | PEACEYALL | now itw orx |
| 17:29.20 | amiroff | for some reason konqueror is very slow compared to firefox on my system, how can I make it speed up rendering ? |
| 17:29.47 | njaard | amiroff: not enough detail. |
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| 17:30.11 | amiroff | njaard: I open the same 2 sites, and firefox loads it much faster |
| 17:30.12 | Oleg_ | brb |
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| 17:30.22 | njaard | what is "loads it much faster" |
| 17:31.00 | MetalProc | amirof: firefox is just faster browser in general |
| 17:31.13 | amiroff | njaard: well, I begin to see the whole page in firefox, then later after 5-6 seconds in konqueror |
| 17:31.15 | njaard | MetalProc: have you been drining? |
| 17:31.29 | njaard | amiroff: what page? |
| 17:31.33 | MetalProc | njaard: drining? |
| 17:31.33 | Oleg_ | ok, back |
| 17:31.40 | njaard | MetalProc: er, drinKing |
| 17:31.42 | Oleg_ | people, I am downloading gnutella |
| 17:31.50 | MetalProc | njaard: why? |
| 17:32.00 | njaard | because firefox is incredibly slow compared to konq |
| 17:32.00 | amiroff | njaard: most of the sites, say kde.org |
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| 17:32.18 | amiroff | njaard: you're right about that, the interface is very slow |
| 17:32.19 | njaard | and then let's also consider that Konqueror even conforms to more standards in my experience... |
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| 17:32.28 | MetalProc | njaard: not on me it isn't |
| 17:33.24 | njaard | amiroff: are you running it on the same computer? :) |
| 17:33.33 | MetalProc | i think there might be some studies about it |
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| 17:34.04 | njaard | MetalProc: the only one I can think of shows that konqueror is generally significantly faster |
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| 17:34.50 | njaard | http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html |
| 17:34.52 | PEACEYALL | njaard , it worx but if i log off and i select kde as session , then i get the same error trying to log onto kde session |
| 17:34.52 | amiroff | njaard: yes, konq and firefox side by side |
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| 17:35.13 | amiroff | njaard: I've read that before, I am a webdeveloper |
| 17:35.26 | PEACEYALL | and then when i log into gnome and try and go terminal it wont work , but when i do that export thign it will |
| 17:35.32 | njaard | yes, and I develop khtml :) |
| 17:35.57 | Paleo | 1 |
| 17:35.59 | PEACEYALL | so what should i do now |
| 17:36.02 | njaard | PEACEYALL: then fix your scripts |
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| 17:36.05 | Paleo | oops wrong window |
| 17:36.09 | amiroff | njaard: so I've spotted the right man here :) |
| 17:36.11 | Flendor | Good evening! |
| 17:36.15 | PieD | does somebody here have informations about the KDE vs GNOME usage ? |
| 17:36.18 | PEACEYALL | njaard which script? |
| 17:36.28 | njaard | PEACEYALL: depends on your distro |
| 17:36.33 | PEACEYALL | debian sarge |
| 17:36.37 | njaard | oh |
| 17:36.38 | njaard | snap :) |
| 17:36.43 | amiroff | PieD: what kind of? |
| 17:36.48 | njaard | PEACEYALL: write a script to do just that |
| 17:36.54 | njaard | and |
| 17:37.14 | njaard | PEACEYALL: .. look in /usr/share/xessions |
| 17:37.16 | njaard | PEACEYALL: .. look in /usr/share/xsessions |
| 17:37.19 | PEACEYALL | ok |
| 17:37.40 | PieD | how many KDE users vs how many GNOME users |
| 17:37.46 | SadEagle | amiroff: 5-6 seconds? |
| 17:37.54 | SadEagle | amiroff: export KDE_NO_IPV6=true |
| 17:38.00 | SadEagle | amiroff: and restart kdeinit |
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| 17:38.09 | njaard | SadEagle: he says it happens on all pages |
| 17:38.12 | PEACEYALL | njaard what do i check in there? |
| 17:38.17 | Darien | hi all, another quick question - how do I burn an ISO in KDE? |
| 17:38.20 | njaard | PEACEYALL: you modify it |
| 17:38.33 | SadEagle | njaard: then it's his local DNS that may be broken. |
| 17:38.44 | SadEagle | alternatively,hmm, maybe localhostdoens't resolve? |
| 17:39.05 | PEACEYALL | modify what , its a folder not a file |
| 17:39.08 | njaard | PEACEYALL: look dude, it's a simple config file, if you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be compiling it yourself |
| 17:39.15 | njaard | PEACEYALL: look in there, then |
| 17:39.25 | amiroff | SadEagle: do I have to do KDE_NO_IPV6=true only once? will it still be true for next logins? |
| 17:39.45 | SadEagle | njaard: are you saying he should use Debian packages instead? ;-) |
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| 17:39.51 | Darien | wait, got it 0 k3b |
| 17:39.53 | SadEagle | amiroff: no. But try it first,,, |
| 17:39.55 | Darien | thx all |
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| 17:39.58 | njaard | SadEagle: I'm saying he should use mandrake ;) |
| 17:40.05 | PEACEYALL | lol |
| 17:40.27 | amiroff | SadEagle: and how do I restart kdeinit ? :) killall ? |
| 17:40.59 | njaard | run a new one |
| 17:41.02 | njaard | that's all |
| 17:41.58 | amiroff | ok |
| 17:42.27 | thiago | amiroff: just type "kdeinit" |
| 17:42.32 | thiago | hint, Alt+F2 and type it there |
| 17:42.41 | thiago | or you'll get a lot of debug output in your terminal |
| 17:42.43 | amiroff | thiago: I got it, thanks |
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| 17:43.45 | thr1ce | anyone know if Koffice will eventually support write support to MS/staroffice formats ? |
| 17:43.59 | amiroff | SadEagle: wow! Nearly instant loading !!!!!!! |
| 17:44.19 | amiroff | SadEagle: thank you very very much man! |
| 17:44.45 | SadEagle | no problem... Now you need to put the environment setting someplace more permanent... thiago must know a spot |
| 17:45.08 | thiago | thr1ce: OASIS is going to be supported |
| 17:45.11 | thiago | probably as the default format |
| 17:45.12 | grepper | I have it in /etc/environment |
| 17:45.16 | dilema | is there gtk2 eengine that makes gtk2 apps use QT widgets? |
| 17:45.21 | thr1ce | thiago, oasis? |
| 17:45.24 | thr1ce | i'm not familiar |
| 17:45.26 | dilema | so I can use say xchat in gnome and it look purdy? |
| 17:45.49 | thr1ce | use it in gnome? /topic dilema |
| 17:46.03 | njaard | ok. back |
| 17:46.14 | thiago | amiroff: ~/.kde/env/noipv6.sh. Create it and add "export KDE_NO_IPV6=1" there |
| 17:46.24 | PEACEYALL | thank you njaard , my problem is fixed |
| 17:46.25 | thiago | thr1ce: OASIS = OpenOffice.org's OpenDocument format |
| 17:46.28 | njaard | SadEagle: the ipv6 problem was one of the first things I thought of but excluded it because of the "all domains" |
| 17:46.53 | thr1ce | thiago, yeah...I wanted MS, since everyone and their mother uses it |
| 17:47.19 | thiago | thr1ce: it should support it now, but I am unsure about the quality of the file generated |
| 17:47.21 | dilema | thx thr1ce |
| 17:47.31 | thr1ce | lol |
| 17:47.31 | thr1ce | sure |
| 17:47.43 | thiago | amiroff: what domain were you having problems with? |
| 17:47.53 | thr1ce | thiago, you can read it I know...but write? I don't think yet |
| 17:48.09 | thiago | thr1ce: generate PDFs :) |
| 17:48.16 | thiago | or send them RTFs if they have to modify |
| 17:48.36 | amiroff | thiago: random domains, I did not keep track of them |
| 17:48.58 | thiago | the IPv6 lookups are simultaneous to the IPv4 ones |
| 17:49.12 | thiago | it shouldn't take more or less time to resolve |
| 17:49.12 | njaard | thiago: why not just use the first one that comes in? |
| 17:49.19 | thr1ce | pdf might work; will kpdf create them from a koffice document ? |
| 17:49.24 | thiago | njaard: because we're a couple of layers up from that |
| 17:49.30 | njaard | thiago: oh, right |
| 17:49.31 | Oleg_ | in what directory .gIFT is? |
| 17:49.38 | thiago | njaard: when we get the reply, everything has been received already |
| 17:49.45 | njaard | thiago: there's like 3 APIs just part of posix for doing dns |
| 17:49.55 | thiago | amiroff: the fact that it does points to a buggy DNS server somewhere |
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| 17:51.00 | thiago | njaard: I have some qualms about NSS as well, but we cannot ignore it |
| 17:51.38 | amiroff | thiago: it really improved broswing with konqueror, really |
| 17:51.42 | njaard | SadEagle: can I discuss scrollbars with you? |
| 17:51.51 | njaard | SadEagle: ... in #kde-devel :) |
| 17:51.53 | SadEagle | njaard: what about them? |
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| 17:52.20 | thiago | example: if getaddrinfo() supports only IPv6 and IPv4, doing a lookup of "any" may not return the same results than the union of the IPv4 and IPv6 results |
| 17:52.20 | thiago | so, all != sum of components |
| 17:53.14 | kaplanfx | in 3.4, is there a shortcut to bring up the sys guard? |
| 17:53.50 | njaard | kaplanfx: that's configurable |
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| 17:53.50 | kaplanfx | IIRC it was ctrl-alt-delete, but that now brings up the shutdown menu |
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| 17:53.51 | dwango | kaplanfx: for me, it's ctrl+alt+del |
| 17:54.06 | kaplanfx | thats what I want, where are the options to set it? |
| 17:54.13 | MetalProc | njaard: I stand corrected |
| 17:54.18 | njaard | kaplanfx: kmenuedit |
| 17:54.20 | thiago | amiroff: going to Google here takes 77ms for the IPv4 resolution and 108 ms for the IPv6 one |
| 17:55.33 | kaplanfx | hmm pretty cool |
| 17:55.34 | thiago | the second time the resolutions were attempted, it took a total of 5 ms |
| 17:55.39 | SadEagle | ctl-alt-sec |
| 17:55.39 | kaplanfx | thanks njaard |
| 17:55.44 | SadEagle | s/sec/esc/ |
| 17:55.53 | SadEagle | oops, ctrl-esc, rather |
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| 17:56.42 | SadEagle | (that was for kaplanfx ) |
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| 17:57.14 | kaplanfx | do I need to restart kde to make global shortcuts reassign |
| 17:57.41 | kaplanfx | I set the shortcut to sysguard to ctrl-alt-delete but its still giving me the logoff options |
| 18:00.03 | kaplanfx | nice, got it setup |
| 18:00.06 | kaplanfx | thanks all |
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| 18:03.41 | r00tsh3ll | how can i fix this ? -> http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/3.html |
| 18:04.25 | njaard | r00tsh3ll: send a patch? :) |
| 18:04.46 | njaard | r00tsh3ll: nice wallpaper btw |
| 18:05.05 | r00tsh3ll | i was trying to send a file usinf kopete.. the file is in another partition.. |
| 18:05.28 | njaard | r00tsh3ll: do you use msn? |
| 18:05.35 | r00tsh3ll | ya |
| 18:05.38 | njaard | username? |
| 18:06.18 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, hey; Sandy uploaded his packs- i'd use em instead of those |
| 18:06.18 | njaard | r00tsh3ll: go online :) |
| 18:06.43 | njaard | ok :) |
| 18:07.08 | r00tsh3ll | thr1ce, can u pass me the link? |
| 18:07.57 | r00tsh3ll | i forgot the link to sand ftp.. |
| 18:08.06 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, I just pm'ed ya |
| 18:08.35 | r00tsh3ll | lemme try... |
| 18:08.38 | thr1ce | get the PM r00tsh3ll ? |
| 18:08.58 | njaard | r00tsh3ll: what path is the file you're trying to send at? |
| 18:09.24 | r00tsh3ll | thr1ce, uh i see :-p thks. |
| 18:09.50 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, works MUCH better |
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| 18:10.52 | SadEagle | r00tsh3ll: don't use media:/ to get there |
| 18:10.54 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, where did you get the amarok pack ? |
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| 18:17.16 | r00tsh3ll | SadEagle, i'm not.. |
| 18:17.22 | r00tsh3ll | SadEagle, see the shot.. |
| 18:17.32 | SadEagle | the path is invisible there |
| 18:19.16 | MrGrim | what would be a good name for a samba vfs module that makes various audio formats look like wav files to the client? |
| 18:19.46 | MrGrim | I'm so bad at naming things.. |
| 18:20.10 | SadEagle | r00tsh3ll: uhm, that screenshot has you using media: |
| 18:20.36 | njaard | SadEagle: media is stupid |
| 18:20.49 | njaard | SadEagle: why doesn't it just forward you to the local url so that the filenames you get off of it are useful? |
| 18:20.53 | SadEagle | dunno |
| 18:20.59 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, slowed way down; just finished from amarok's site |
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| 18:24.07 | r00tsh3ll | i tried but it doesnt worked :( |
| 18:24.15 | r00tsh3ll | thr1ce, http://erebus.ereb.us/dbw/amarok/1.2.2/ |
| 18:25.58 | r00tsh3ll | but works fine to local files.. |
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| 18:28.54 | billytwowilly | HI, I'm hoping someone knows how to fix this. I'm trying to set kaffiene as the player of choice for avi files, but the settings won't save. Whenever I close the file associations app they revert to broken. |
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| 18:41.07 | kilrae | ya know what would be nice, a dropdown task list, like on macs |
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| 18:43.15 | grepper | kilrae: the desktop menu bar not what you mean ? |
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| 18:45.20 | cipherz_ | so how do I get alt-tab to work in kwin ? |
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| 18:45.44 | SadEagle | it should just work, cipherz_ |
| 18:45.55 | cipherz_ | thats what I thought |
| 18:46.22 | cipherz_ | same as for some weird reason I cant make alt-f1 put windows on desktop 1 |
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| 18:47.09 | kilrae | grepper: in macos there's a icon in the upper right that lists all the open windows |
| 18:47.11 | cipherz_ | ok there it works but well isn't there an shuffle through window list like windows has ? |
| 18:47.23 | kilrae | like a taskbar but in a dropdown menu |
| 18:47.46 | Paleo | How could I recreate a trash icon on desktop ? |
| 18:49.18 | grepper | kilrae: well, there is something similar in the desktop menu (which is top of screen) |
| 18:49.30 | uzimonkey | Paleo: did you somehow manage to drag trash to the trash? |
| 18:49.50 | Paleo | no, I rm -fr ~/Desktop |
| 18:49.52 | grepper | kilrae: also in the "current applications menu" |
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| 18:50.14 | fubart | hey |
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| 18:50.30 | fubart | I completly messed up my Kmenu, can I somehow restore it to the system defaults? |
| 18:51.07 | kilrae | grepper, doesn't show if you're using mac style menu bars and have an application focused |
| 18:51.15 | kilrae | if we're talking about the same thing |
| 18:52.01 | r00tsh3ll | Paleo, good question... |
| 18:52.08 | grepper | kilrae: ah, then the "desktop menu" |
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| 18:54.56 | roey | HI |
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| 18:56.54 | tsb | is kbear the kde ftpapp of choise? |
| 18:57.08 | r00tsh3ll | Paleo, lemme know if u find out a solution.. |
| 18:57.12 | Paleo | r00tsh3ll can you dcc me your .desktop file of the trash from ~/Desktop ? |
| 18:57.38 | r00tsh3ll | Paleo, i did the same thing that u.. |
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| 18:57.43 | Paleo | lol |
| 18:57.51 | r00tsh3ll | ehe -:) |
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| 18:57.57 | Paleo | anyone else then |
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| 18:59.02 | Colossus | Is there any way I can change the font in Konsole? It screws up whenever it sees Cyrillic... |
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| 18:59.28 | r00tsh3ll | Colossus, settings/ fonts/ custom?! |
| 18:59.31 | tsb | ? |
| 18:59.45 | Colossus | ... |
| 18:59.48 | Colossus | Thank you. |
| 19:00.01 | r00tsh3ll | np |
| 19:00.17 | cipherz_ | how do I setup so I need to double clik on the desktop items ? |
| 19:01.15 | sredna | tsb: Most of us use konqueror/kget for ftp, but if you have bigger needs, there is kbear and one more (can't remember the name, look at http://www.kde-apps.org) |
| 19:01.46 | tsb | sredna: thanks. |
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| 19:02.03 | sredna | You are wellcome :) |
| 19:02.16 | tsb | Specifically, I want bandwidth-throttling and sftp capabilities, like gftp has.. |
| 19:02.21 | tsb | :) I'll look into kbear |
| 19:03.39 | r00tsh3ll | Paleo, fixed? i found a dirty solution... |
| 19:04.41 | r00tsh3ll | Paleo, create $HOME/Desktop/Trash/ and then create a new link to location at desktop.. |
| 19:05.15 | r00tsh3ll | as i said, a dirty solution.. but worked for me... |
| 19:05.18 | SadEagle | r00tsh3ll: uhm, that sounds wrong, you're using 3.4, no? |
| 19:06.39 | r00tsh3ll | SadEagle, yes.. i found [Paths] |
| 19:06.40 | r00tsh3ll | Trash=$HOME/Desktop/Trash/ in .kde/config/kdeglobals and did that... i'm sure that it isnt the right way to do but i dunno another way.. :/ do u know? |
| 19:07.02 | SadEagle | 3.4 doesn't use that, at all. 3.4 use trash:/ for the trash |
| 19:07.29 | sredna | Hi SadEagle :) |
| 19:07.30 | r00tsh3ll | SadEagle, well.. check ur .kde/config/kdeglobals and search for trash.. |
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| 19:07.44 | SadEagle | hi sredna |
| 19:07.53 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: You could have the old piece of information left from old days :o |
| 19:08.00 | SadEagle | r00tsh3ll: just because it stays around, doesn't mean it's used. |
| 19:08.07 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: The right way now is using trash:/ |
| 19:08.54 | r00tsh3ll | odd cuz i removed .kde before install 3.4 here... |
| 19:09.06 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, thanks anyways.. |
| 19:09.28 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, you got me addicted to amarok...it's amazing! |
| 19:09.42 | r00tsh3ll | ehe :-p |
| 19:10.12 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: Never delete you .kde directory - kde keeps your data in there along with the configuration files |
| 19:10.52 | r00tsh3ll | thr1ce, there are some cool scripts .. take a look.. http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Scripts |
| 19:12.06 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, i was aware of this .. but i wanted to start from scratch.. |
| 19:12.23 | Japsu_ | I also moved my .kde* away when upgrading to 3.4 |
| 19:12.31 | Japsu_ | it's still backuped somewhere :D |
| 19:12.49 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: If you ever start using kaddressbook, korganizer and keep stuff like templates and such, be sure to backup. |
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| 19:19.36 | kilrae | well, one more gtk app down |
| 19:20.27 | MrGrim | does anyone here use voyetra's audiostation software on windows? |
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| 19:27.00 | edulix | hi ! |
| 19:28.25 | edulix | how can I activate in kate automatic quickkeys assignation to change from file to file in Documentation menu ? |
| 19:28.42 | edulix | I was just using it before kate crashed and it's not there anymore |
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| 19:33.01 | UnionPivo | hi |
| 19:33.31 | edulix | hello :) |
| 19:34.35 | derelm | i just noticed that kdm has some sort of themeing support, but that's not yet configurable through control-center, right? |
| 19:36.54 | sredna | edulix: Which keys in kate? |
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| 19:37.44 | sredna | edulix: The default keys are ALT + Left|Roght if I understand you correctly -- browse the document list? |
| 19:39.05 | sredna | edulix: If you lost those, you can restore them by launching the shortcut configuration dialog (Settings->Configure Shortcuts) and enable the default shortcuts for Next/Previous document |
| 19:39.08 | fubart | how do I restore my kmenu to the original system default? |
| 19:39.35 | sredna | fubart: Remove custom changes? |
| 19:40.00 | sredna | fubart: Move away ~/.local I believe |
| 19:40.05 | fubart | sredna: I completly screwed it up somehow and I would like to completly revert it to the system default |
| 19:40.08 | SadEagle | derelm: right |
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| 19:42.00 | derelm | SadEagle: thanks. |
| 19:42.51 | derelm | oh, as the kde-frontend to kdm rewrites the whole file, how can i "reget" a file with all comments? |
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| 19:46.12 | sredna | Auch |
| 19:46.26 | sredna | The file is generated I believe |
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| 19:50.03 | edulix | sredna: that's a good way to do it, but I was talking about pressing Alt-D to show the Document menu, and then kate assigns a key for each file in that document list underlining it, so that if you have lea.y and the 'y' is underlined, then pressing alt-d and then 'y' key you open the file lea.y |
| 19:50.31 | mohohaha | in kde, what's good app to help me make iso file |
| 19:50.43 | mohohaha | let me mkdir in iso and so on |
| 19:50.51 | mohohaha | so something like nero |
| 19:51.44 | mohohaha | k3b? |
| 19:51.58 | Colossus | k3b works fairly well for that. |
| 19:53.09 | sredna | edulix: The accellerators should be autogenerated |
| 19:53.22 | mohohaha | what package will install k3b? |
| 19:53.27 | gregday | k3b |
| 19:53.36 | mohohaha | don't have it |
| 19:53.57 | sredna | edulix: They should appear automatically after restarting kate |
| 19:54.15 | edulix | sredna: but they don't. can't they be reactivated ? |
| 19:54.17 | sredna | mohohaha: K3b is released seperately |
| 19:54.28 | edulix | mohaha: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10176 http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 |
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| 19:54.53 | sredna | edulix: Make sure you have no old kate processes lying around |
| 19:55.05 | edulix | uhm ok |
| 19:55.12 | mohohaha | dam |
| 19:55.31 | mohohaha | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.31 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdeartwork-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdeartwork3 |
| 19:55.32 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdeaddons-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdeaddons3 |
| 19:55.32 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdeadmin-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdeadmin3 |
| 19:55.32 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdeedu-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdeedu3 |
| 19:55.34 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdegames-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../games/kdegames3 |
| 19:55.36 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdegraphics-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../graphics/kdegraphics3 |
| 19:55.39 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdemultimedia-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../multimedia/kdemultimedia3 |
| 19:55.41 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdenetwork-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../net/kdenetwork3 |
| 19:55.44 | edulix | mohohaha: stop |
| 19:55.44 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdepim-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdepim3 |
| 19:55.47 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdetoys-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../games/kdetoys3 |
| 19:55.49 | r00tsh3ll | jesus... |
| 19:55.49 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdeutils-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../misc/kdeutils3 |
| 19:55.52 | mohohaha | DEPENDS+= kdewebdev-3.3.2{,nb[0-9]*}:../../www/kdewebdev3 |
| 19:55.52 | sredna | edulix: I'm not aware of anything specificially you can do. Maybe try moving all kates data, ~/.kde/share/config/kate* and ~/.kde/share/apps/kate* |
| 19:55.54 | mohohaha | which one is for k3b |
| 19:56.06 | r00tsh3ll | none |
| 19:56.08 | sredna | mohohaha: Never do that again!!! |
| 19:56.16 | r00tsh3ll | www.k3b.org |
| 19:56.27 | sredna | Or you'll be kicked, banned and also yelled at :o |
| 19:56.29 | edulix | mohaha: don't flood the channel please, and read the TOPIC |
| 19:56.35 | mohohaha | ok |
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| 19:57.02 | mohohaha | so which one is for k3b or k3b depends on it |
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| 19:57.36 | Dhraakellian | mohohaha, "Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste" --the topic |
| 19:57.40 | sredna | mohohaha: Neither contains k3b, but k3b will depend on kdelibs, and possibly kdemultimidia |
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| 19:58.12 | Dhraakellian | heh... note to self: read what other people say before I correct someone |
| 19:58.48 | sredna | Lol |
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| 20:01.54 | edulix | sredna: I've moved that in it didn't work |
| 20:01.55 | slayerbob | how do i find what version of kde is currently running ? |
| 20:01.55 | cprogrammer52 | Hey yall, i have a question about the kde session manager, you know when you log out and you can choose to show the shutdown options? There is a picture of a dragon there, how would i go about replacing it? |
| 20:02.14 | slayerbob | er rather... what the path to the current version of kde actually is |
| 20:02.21 | MrGrim | ahh you don't like the dragon? :/ |
| 20:02.33 | sredna | slayerbob: Kde-config --version |
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| 20:02.52 | cprogrammer52 | lol well its ok but i want to replace it with a pic of Pat Green cause im theming my whole desktop |
| 20:02.52 | slayerbob | sredna, and the path ? |
| 20:02.59 | sredna | slayerbob: kde-config --prefix |
| 20:03.11 | slayerbob | ty sredna :) |
| 20:03.19 | sredna | slayerbob: kde-config --help could be informative ;) |
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| 20:03.33 | slayerbob | heh |
| 20:03.55 | slayerbob | the hdd in my notebook has died so i am using my desktop and it is horribly ugly :( |
| 20:04.22 | sredna | edulix: I dont' know what to say really. Did you resstart KDE after you crashed? |
| 20:04.38 | cprogrammer52 | Anyone happen to know? |
| 20:04.46 | MrGrim | cprogrammer52: no idea |
| 20:04.51 | r00tsh3ll | cprogrammer52, control center/ system admin/ login manager/... |
| 20:04.51 | slayerbob | heh - only in a linux channel would someone say "did you restart blah after you crashed" :P |
| 20:04.52 | MrGrim | but... I wonder if the dragon has a name |
| 20:04.54 | edulix | sredna: no I didn't :) |
| 20:05.05 | sredna | edulix: Please try, then |
| 20:05.11 | edulix | ok |
| 20:05.12 | edulix | brb |
| 20:05.16 | sredna | cprogrammer52: It's a png file somewhere |
| 20:05.19 | sredna | Lemme check |
| 20:05.34 | kilrae | anyone know of slackware packages for kde 3.4? |
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| 20:05.44 | r00tsh3ll | cprogrammer52, uh sorry i confused the pics.. |
| 20:05.55 | cprogrammer52 | oh thats ok lol |
| 20:05.59 | r00tsh3ll | kilrae, ya |
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| 20:06.17 | r00tsh3ll | kilrae, http://www.oceighty.net/slackpack/kde3.4/ |
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| 20:06.39 | kilrae | thank you |
| 20:06.56 | edulix | sredna: oh my, kate doesn't stop crashing and crashing. it sometimes crashes opening normal files, for example. is kate 3.4 specially buggy ? |
| 20:07.16 | edulix | it has crashed me about 6 times in less than one hour |
| 20:07.36 | morgajelWork | alright, I have an idea, and I'm wondering if it's feasable... is it possible to script a konsole window to open, create 3 new tabs, and have each tab automagically run a specific command? (mp3c, ssh, etc) |
| 20:07.38 | r00tsh3ll | cprogrammer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2004/06/2/172157 |
| 20:08.23 | morgajelWork | for example, make an icon on my desktop that when clicked, ssh'd into each one of my machines and ran mp3c |
| 20:08.38 | edulix | well let's try to restart kde, brb |
| 20:08.52 | morgajelWork | I've never tried anything like this before with konsole, so I'm not sure where to start |
| 20:11.18 | mohohaha | i'm trying to install k3b on netbsd, it's not in pkgsrc though, how can i go about it |
| 20:11.47 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, that guy was talking about this one? /opt/kde/share/apps/kdeui/pics/aboutkde.png |
| 20:12.16 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: I dont' think so |
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| 20:14.33 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: /opt/kdecvs/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkde.png |
| 20:14.48 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: Replace the first two with your KDEDIR |
| 20:14.49 | r00tsh3ll | ya!! gonna change it too |
| 20:14.50 | r00tsh3ll | :D |
| 20:15.00 | r00tsh3ll | thks |
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| 20:17.09 | Julianyus | hi |
| 20:17.10 | edulix | bah it didn't work :| |
| 20:17.19 | edulix | wll it's dinner time |
| 20:17.41 | Micro | How can I turn off auto-spellcheck in konqie forums by default? every time I type something it hangs the gui for like 30 seconds. its terrible. |
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| 20:18.01 | PieD | Micro: are you sure it is the spellcheck ? |
| 20:18.07 | PieD | try to quit klipper |
| 20:18.09 | sredna | edulix: I have no idea what you do to make kate crash. I haven't crashed without it beeing a error in code I'm working on since a loooong time |
| 20:18.10 | PieD | and see the results |
| 20:18.14 | Micro | ok |
| 20:18.47 | Micro | hmm, yeah, I think that was it. |
| 20:18.52 | Micro | whats wrong with klipper? |
| 20:19.00 | gregday | it's klipper |
| 20:20.09 | PieD | Micro: a Qt bug (not sure) |
| 20:20.12 | sredna | edulix: If you can describe what you do to make kate crash, please file a bug report, or write to kwrite-devel@kde.org, or come and talk to me/us in #kate |
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| 20:24.10 | war- | Anyone know where I can grab more KDE desktops? |
| 20:24.18 | war- | Anyone know where I can grab more KDE desktop/backgrounds? |
| 20:25.48 | apokryphos | war-: kde-look.org |
| 20:25.54 | war- | thx. |
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| 20:29.56 | sredna | war-: If you have kde 3.4, you can use the 'get new wallpapers' button in the Background control panel to download them directly |
| 20:30.04 | sredna | </ad> |
| 20:30.56 | war- | ah, still using 3.3.x, but thanks for info. |
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| 20:35.34 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, how to use this thing to get new kopete chat windows styles?! |
| 20:36.03 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: I don't know if kopete has integrated it |
| 20:36.13 | r00tsh3ll | i saw canllaith using it... |
| 20:36.27 | r00tsh3ll | she tells me before but i forgot... |
| 20:36.34 | slayerbob | canllaith who does not use kopete ? |
| 20:37.35 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: Kopete can install a theme, if you have one. You can find them ate http://www.kde-look.org. Afaik kopete does not support using khns (yet) |
| 20:38.03 | edulix | :) |
| 20:38.12 | sredna | I'm not cheating anyone anyway :p |
| 20:38.43 | sredna | Or 'fooling' is better, maybe |
| 20:39.06 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, something like 'get new stuff..' |
| 20:39.32 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: Yes, KHNS == 'Kool Hot New Stuff' |
| 20:40.06 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: But if kopete is using it, that is new to me, and my kopete is post-kde 3.4 |
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| 20:41.53 | r00tsh3ll | sredna, http://www.stevello.free-online.co.uk/kopete/kopete_emot_khns.png |
| 20:42.16 | r00tsh3ll | i lost the link to canllaith's site with more shots.. |
| 20:43.25 | sredna | Oh :) |
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| 20:47.07 | MrSpikey | How do I use themes in kdm? |
| 20:47.16 | MrSpikey | Am using kde 3.4 |
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| 20:48.24 | edulix | MrSpike: where are you downloading them from ? |
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| 20:48.27 | roey | hi |
| 20:48.32 | roey | anyone here? |
| 20:48.37 | edulix | many |
| 20:48.41 | roey | I copied my .kde to another user account, |
| 20:49.05 | edulix | MrSpike: there must be a howto in kde-look.org |
| 20:49.23 | roey | and on KDE startup, I keep getting "kdesu: user katz does not exist" |
| 20:49.30 | apokryphos | edulix: I don't think there is; not for kdm. |
| 20:49.34 | roey | and my opened Konqueror windows are no longer there. |
| 20:49.39 | roey | How can I fix this? |
| 20:49.54 | roey | Is there a migration tool for copying a .kde to another user account? |
| 20:50.03 | MrSpikey | edulix: haven't found one... |
| 20:50.09 | SadEagle | chown -R NewUser .kde, roey ? |
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| 20:50.40 | roey | SadEagle: not enough |
| 20:50.46 | roey | SadEagle: I did that, it's not enough. |
| 20:50.59 | SadEagle | roey: also look for symlinks tosockets inside and kill them |
| 20:51.15 | sredna | MrSpikey: You have to manually enable it in kdmrc. There is one sample theme included, and I believe that there is one more at www.kde-look.org |
| 20:51.24 | roey | SadEagle: aaaah, right. |
| 20:51.29 | kilrae | uh oh, angel and buffy |
| 20:51.32 | kilrae | this could be bad |
| 20:51.44 | roey | SadEagle: do things like kwallet store information according to the user account? |
| 20:51.48 | MrSpikey | sredna: K. Thanks! |
| 20:51.51 | sredna | MrSpikey: Afaik, the themes are supposedly gdm theme compatible, but I'm not sure if everything is supported |
| 20:52.27 | apokryphos | Heh; I like the way the title is "KDM themes", and half seem to be gdm themes. |
| 20:53.44 | edulix | apokryphos: also found so |
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| 20:54.34 | edulix | MrSpikey: I never tried vto install a KDM theme, but AFAIK in each of them that appear in kde-look they mention the install method |
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| 20:54.51 | apokryphos | the current kubuntu kdm theme is actually real nice; I think they might upload it there soon enough. |
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| 20:59.11 | kilrae | what's with this appletux dude? |
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| 21:03.10 | Colossus | Hey, guys ... anybody here know whether you can remove GNOME and still run GNOMmish apps, like X-Chat and gaim? |
| 21:04.56 | SadEagle | roey: don't think so. |
| 21:05.21 | Blissex | Colossus: yes. |
| 21:05.50 | Colossus | Sweet. |
| 21:06.12 | Colossus | And how can you set KDE to be the default environment? |
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| 21:06.40 | sredna | Colossus: You just need gtk/gtk2 and the minimal requirements for those apps |
| 21:06.47 | Colossus | okay. |
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| 21:08.32 | sredna | Colossus: Making KDE the default session system-wide is depending on your system. |
| 21:08.45 | Colossus | Ahh, okay |
| 21:08.51 | Colossus | Know how to do it with Fedora Core 3? |
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| 21:09.19 | damned_ | evening all. can anybody tell me where can i find kmail config files ? |
| 21:09.22 | Sebien | hello |
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| 21:09.55 | Sebien | is anyone familiarized with konstruct ? |
| 21:10.07 | Sebien | I would want to download all first and then compile |
| 21:10.26 | Blissex | Sebien: that sounds quite mad... |
| 21:10.28 | Sebien | "cd meta/everything/ ; make fetch" does not work for me |
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| 21:10.58 | Sebien | konstruct doc say it can look at a certain directory before downloading it |
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| 21:13.09 | sredna | damned_: Kde stores all config files in $KDEHOME/share/config. KDEHOME is likely ~/.kde, and kmails config file is kdmrc |
| 21:13.13 | sredna | No |
| 21:13.15 | sredna | Kmailrc |
| 21:14.25 | damned_ | sredna, thnx, actually the problem is that something happened and now i can't see the kmail preferences window :( to be exact - i see that window, but don't see anything inside |
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| 21:14.47 | sredna | damned_: Exit kmail and restart it |
| 21:14.49 | damned_ | i've tryed to erase rpm package kdepim3, but it doesn't help |
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| 21:15.26 | sredna | damned_: If you have the tray icon, exiting means using file->quit |
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| 21:15.56 | sredna | Kmail is keeping the config dialog once created, untill you quit it |
| 21:15.56 | damned_ | sredna, yup, sure i've tryed to restart kmail, tryed to restart kde, but it doesn't help :( |
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| 21:20.46 | sredna | I need an equivalent of chomp() for QString! |
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| 21:24.32 | chakie | simplifyWhiteSpace() |
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| 21:26.37 | guest | hello |
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| 21:28.44 | kilrae | anybody using the brilliant splash screen? |
| 21:29.13 | Sebien | kilrae : KDE splash Screen or Linux Bootsplash ? |
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| 21:29.40 | kilrae | KDE Splash screen |
| 21:29.54 | Sebien | I've done my owne splash. Not online yet |
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| 21:31.54 | Sebien | kilrae : http://slaout.linux62.org/iut/CrystalFrameSplash.png One day I will upload it to kde-look... One day :) |
| 21:33.01 | guest | is any one using PClinuxos |
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| 21:37.38 | kilrae | oooh, yum |
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| 21:38.34 | kilrae | i think |
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| 21:40.08 | paines | hi |
| 21:40.18 | guest | hi |
| 21:41.02 | kilrae | shouldn't kdm either use the background of your login theme or your desktop wallpaper? |
| 21:41.57 | paines | i have a problem with kde and the latest nvidia drivers. when renderaccel is on, X will freeze. turning ksplash helped to start up, but then X freezes again when I start amarok. any idea what this is ? kde is 3.3.2 |
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| 21:42.12 | paines | turning ksplash off |
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| 21:44.02 | guest | koqueror and nvidia together would crash on flash websites |
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| 21:45.26 | guest | tuxcart sends my system into a comma |
| 21:46.36 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 21:46.50 | Dhraakellian | his system then has a full stop? |
| 21:47.26 | Dhraakellian | or is it just a period of inactivity? |
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| 21:52.21 | PieD | @++++ |
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| 21:56.07 | sredna | Hello annma :^) |
| 21:56.13 | annma | hi :) |
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| 22:00.48 | _root | Kuser broke my users. |
| 22:02.16 | _root | Is it a bug that when you try and set 2 users to the same home folder with kuser it sets their uid to 0, their startup shell to blank, and their home folder to nothing, and then won't let you change it back? |
| 22:02.23 | annma | sredna: did you see I was in top 10 commietters and no mention of kdeedu in cvs digest? |
| 22:02.50 | sredna | annma: That slipped me -- congratulations :) |
| 22:03.01 | uzimonkey | erm.. it sets it to 0?! |
| 22:03.07 | annma | I was a bit angry to see no other mention |
| 22:03.08 | _root | yeah |
| 22:03.12 | _root | it set it the same as root |
| 22:03.20 | uzimonkey | _root: I'd report that.. potentially very dangeroud |
| 22:03.21 | _root | i can su from those users without a pass |
| 22:03.23 | uzimonkey | *dangerous |
| 22:03.41 | _root | thankfully, i am in the process of fixing it |
| 22:03.44 | sredna | annma: I did that only one time :) |
| 22:03.47 | _root | i hope |
| 22:03.47 | uzimonkey | even better :) |
| 22:03.49 | annma | _root: hello, see me in your /? |
| 22:03.54 | _root | anma ... |
| 22:04.01 | _root | annma: ... |
| 22:04.29 | _root | annma: ... |
| 22:04.41 | annma | _root: <joking> |
| 22:04.47 | _root | annma: :P |
| 22:04.59 | _root | there |
| 22:05.00 | _root | okay |
| 22:05.05 | _root | copied the home folders |
| 22:05.10 | _root | not to delete users completely |
| 22:05.12 | _root | and remake |
| 22:06.46 | paines | bye |
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| 22:09.51 | claudia78 | hi all |
| 22:10.01 | claudia78 | does someone of you using gentoo ? |
| 22:10.17 | annma | <cough> |
| 22:10.29 | annma | KDE real sources here |
| 22:10.49 | lignux | r00tsh3ll: Hey |
| 22:11.10 | claudia78 | annma, only to ask, because i have problem with kde3.4 and gentoo |
| 22:11.12 | JakubS | annma: like without strange patches? |
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| 22:11.19 | claudia78 | annma, and no answer on gentoo-pub |
| 22:11.24 | annma | JakubS: without strange scripts mainly |
| 22:11.37 | annma | claudia78: hmm, no wonder |
| 22:11.54 | annma | claudia78: please tell your problem, maybe someone will know |
| 22:11.58 | JakubS | claudia78: they are not too responsive unfortunately |
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| 22:12.09 | usual | I just came into kde 3.4 from gnome, and in gnome I was able to have shortcuts on my desktop to use nautilus to ssh and ftp into sites. Can KDE do that sort of thing with konq? |
| 22:12.25 | claudia78 | only to ask to gentoo user if would be a good choice using konstruct to install it |
| 22:12.37 | Dhraakellian | claudia78, don't mind annma |
| 22:12.59 | Dhraakellian | she doesn't really like gentoo |
| 22:13.17 | _root | why when I try and add a user to a group does it break that user |
| 22:13.40 | _root | it sets their uid to 0, their login shell to blank, and their home directory to blank |
| 22:13.46 | aseigo | usual: yes.. you mean like icons? |
| 22:13.49 | annma | Dhraakellian: read and you'll see I asked her to state her question |
| 22:14.03 | Dhraakellian | annma, heh |
| 22:14.04 | aseigo | usual: if so, you can just right click on the desktop, select Create New -> Link To Application or Link to Location |
| 22:14.06 | claudia78 | Dhraakellian, and u ? |
| 22:14.21 | annma | claudia78: why do you want konstruct versus portage? |
| 22:14.26 | Dhraakellian | annma, yeah, I know, read before pressing enter |
| 22:14.28 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 22:14.29 | usual | aseigo yes but I want to browse the dir's on the remote location in konq |
| 22:14.29 | aseigo | usual: you can also just drag the icon in the location bar in konqi to the desktop and it will make an icon |
| 22:14.46 | Dhraakellian | I use the monolithic KDE ebuilds |
| 22:14.55 | claudia78 | annma, because i have problem using portage |
| 22:14.55 | JakubS | claudia78: i use (fixed) kde-cvs ebuilds |
| 22:15.01 | Dhraakellian | I'll probably wait until KDE 3.5 to switch to the monolithic ebuilds |
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| 22:15.05 | annma | claudia78: see Dhraakellian here |
| 22:15.12 | _root | okay, i HOPE now i fixed it |
| 22:15.13 | claudia78 | JakubS, can you explain me how, pls ? |
| 22:15.19 | annma | claudia78: split ebuilds or monolithic? |
| 22:15.34 | Dhraakellian | but that's mainly because I don't want to bother unmerging the monolithic ebuilds first |
| 22:16.06 | aseigo | usual: yes, i just did this... i went to the location in konqi (fish://bddf.ca) and then dragged the icon from the location bar onto the desktop |
| 22:16.08 | claudia78 | annma, ?!?!...i installed stage3, emerge xfree and now i want to use kde3.4 |
| 22:16.09 | Dhraakellian | annma, !;Þ |
| 22:16.19 | usual | k |
| 22:16.22 | claudia78 | annma, i know it's masked..i have try to unmasked it but it doesn't work |
| 22:16.24 | Dhraakellian | woah! xfree? |
| 22:16.25 | aseigo | usual: i selected "Link" there and then when i clicked on that icon, it oppened up the directory in konq =) |
| 22:16.27 | annma | Dhraakellian: utf8 please |
| 22:16.29 | JakubS | claudia78: you get tarball from http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-cvs.xml |
| 22:16.37 | Dhraakellian | annma, heh... |
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| 22:17.08 | annma | claudia78: hmm, listen to JakubS, I don't really know what I am talking about.... |
| 22:17.26 | JakubS | untar it somewhere, set PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/path/to/untarred/dir" |
| 22:17.32 | Dhraakellian | claudia78, basically, you go into your /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask and copy the appropriate lines into your /etc/portage/package.unmask |
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| 22:17.49 | Jarn | well, i sort of fixed my users |
| 22:17.52 | JakubS | then "emerge kdelibs" should fetch newest sources from cvs, compile and install it |
| 22:17.55 | Jarn | i can still now login to users other than root |
| 22:17.59 | Jarn | but i get this error |
| 22:18.03 | fubert | hi, I remember I once used a program to let kde automagicaly search for non-kde programs, giving an option to add them to the kmenu, now I can't find it. any hint to what its name is? |
| 22:18.23 | Jarn | Sound server fatal error: could not get user name from uid |
| 22:18.24 | Dhraakellian | JakubS, not kdelibs-cvs? |
| 22:18.28 | SadEagle | kappfinder, fubert |
| 22:18.39 | Jarn | how do i fix that? |
| 22:18.48 | fubert | SadEagle: thanks a lot! |
| 22:19.01 | SadEagle | np.. |
| 22:19.07 | JakubS | Dhraakellian: no, it sets itself as kdelibs version 5 :-) |
| 22:19.30 | usual | what is better to use and why? fish:// or sftp:// |
| 22:19.31 | JakubS | fish:// |
| 22:19.31 | Dhraakellian | JakubS, hmm |
| 22:19.31 | aseigo | usual: depends =) fish:// doesn't require anything special on the server... |
| 22:19.41 | aseigo | usual: but if you have sftp:// it sometimes works better depending on the ssh server. |
| 22:19.48 | usual | ok |
| 22:19.56 | aseigo | usual: usually i use fish:// ... and if that fails try sftp:// (which is rarely =) |
| 22:20.02 | JakubS | conclusion: try for yourself :-) |
| 22:20.41 | usual | both seem to behave the same |
| 22:20.54 | kilrae | how come people never get dusty when vampire explode on top of them |
| 22:22.00 | kilrae | they turn to dust, you'd think that much dust would show up on your clothes |
| 22:22.27 | JakubS | and why would vampire jump onto me just to explode? |
| 22:22.34 | kilrae | you would stake it |
| 22:23.10 | JakubS | seems like pretty violent reaction for staking |
| 22:23.20 | kilrae | it's what happens |
| 22:24.18 | usual | does anyone use kweather? and if so, how can I change it from C to F |
| 22:24.32 | annma | what is set in KControl? |
| 22:24.40 | kilrae | use liquid weather for karamba, it's better |
| 22:24.44 | aseigo | usual: in the kde control center, in the Regional settings panel, the last tab IIRC is "Units" or something |
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| 22:24.49 | usual | ahhh |
| 22:25.00 | JakubS | kilrae: agreed |
| 22:25.02 | aseigo | usual: there you pick the default units.. metric vs. imperial units... F vs C |
| 22:25.17 | aseigo | except karamba takes too much RAM and is way too slow =) |
| 22:25.35 | kilrae | usual: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6384 |
| 22:25.46 | kilrae | i haven't had any trouble with karamba |
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| 22:26.35 | JakubS | aseigo: depends on applet, and liquidweather is not a problem |
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| 22:27.27 | Jarn | is there a way to change how kopete is configured so it doesnt need KDE Wallet |
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| 22:28.26 | apokryphos | you can turn KDE Wallet off in kcontrol |
| 22:29.07 | Dhraakellian | where exactly do KDE and gnome store their menu setups? |
| 22:29.32 | annma | Jarn: if you don't want it anywhere, yes, turn it off |
| 22:29.41 | kilrae | Dhr: kde and gnome 2.10 store them in ~/config or something like that |
| 22:29.46 | kilrae | might be .config |
| 22:29.48 | annma | .config |
| 22:30.14 | kilrae | i think older versions of gnome don't store them there |
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| 22:31.06 | apokryphos | Depending on your distro, you might have a applications:/ |
| 22:31.10 | Jarn | annma: thanks |
| 22:32.11 | annma | Dhraakellian: you might want to look at freedesktop.org for standards menus for GNOME and KDE |
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| 22:32.36 | Dhraakellian | okay, so maybe I won't copy and paste stuff for you, Tene |
| 22:32.48 | Tene | figured it would be easier this way |
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| 22:33.13 | Dhraakellian | Tene, checking freedesktop.org was just recommended |
| 22:33.21 | Tene | Ooo, how clever |
| 22:33.41 | Tene | I congratulate the suggester on immense cleverness. |
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| 22:33.58 | thr1ce | r00tsh3ll, you around? |
| 22:34.13 | annma | Tene: thanks! |
| 22:34.29 | annma | I did not see your question though |
| 22:34.41 | annma | so no wonder I cannot answer it |
| 22:34.47 | Dhraakellian | annma, I asked on his behalf |
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| 22:35.29 | annma | Tene: in ~/.config is not the answer you are looking for? |
| 22:35.46 | annma | freedesktop.org is for deeper understanding |
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| 22:36.10 | Tene | Nothing useful in there are at all, but it's not too important. |
| 22:36.14 | annma | actually this answer with 2 levels is very good |
| 22:36.26 | annma | no? structure of .desktop files for ex |
| 22:36.38 | Tene | That is to say, in .config |
| 22:36.50 | annma | .desktop files build the K Menu |
| 22:36.58 | annma | anyway, I have to go |
| 22:37.04 | Tene | thanks anyway |
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| 22:53.57 | callipygous | hey, k3b crashes when clicking on 'burn' this is homo, but i get this error message, which isn't much help |
| 22:54.15 | callipygous | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char *name, KInstance *instance ) |
| 22:54.16 | callipygous | KCrash: Application 'k3b' crashing... |
| 22:54.16 | callipygous | Unable to start Dr. Konqi |
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| 22:56.09 | Cerulean | What icon theme is being used here? |
| 22:56.10 | Cerulean | http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=6384&file1=6384-1.jpg&file2=6384-2.jpg&file3=6384-3.jpg&name=Liquid+Weather+%2B%2B |
| 22:56.28 | callipygous | what icon theme? i don't know, i didn't touch it |
| 22:56.32 | callipygous | says 'crystal' or something |
| 22:57.11 | Dhraakellian | doesn't look like crystal |
| 22:57.16 | Cerulean | No, it's not crystal |
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| 22:57.28 | r00tsh3ll | whats the better way to integrate konqueror and xine? |
| 22:57.30 | callipygous | oh, nm |
| 22:57.34 | callipygous | im talking about k3b |
| 22:58.02 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 22:58.05 | Cerulean | Anyone? |
| 22:58.15 | r00tsh3ll | is there a way to use kaffeine with konqueror? |
| 22:58.16 | Cerulean | r00tsh3ll: 'integrate' |
| 22:58.19 | sredna | r00tsh3ll: Kmplayer |
| 22:58.33 | Cerulean | r00tsh3ll: KMplayer is the embedded applet thingummawat if that's what you want? |
| 22:59.23 | r00tsh3ll | ya thkz. |
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| 23:02.12 | Dhraakellian | Cerulean, maybe try asking in the comments section? |
| 23:02.20 | Cerulean | Dhraakellian: Doing so |
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| 23:05.59 | kilrae | black and white kde is amusing |
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| 23:12.27 | r00tsh3ll | is there an app like babytrans for kde? i mean.. one that uses qt ... for those that dont know what is babytrans, its a translation tool that handle babylon's dictionaries.. |
| 23:13.58 | r00tsh3ll | i'd like that kdict does that... :/ |
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| 23:15.57 | dob | Hi |
| 23:16.44 | sredna | Ho |
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| 23:21.17 | Jarn | I tried to stick an aRts Control applet on a panel and I got this error: 'The aRts Control applet could not be loaded. Please check your installation. ' How do I get this working? |
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| 23:23.42 | sredna | Check you installation :o |
| 23:24.11 | Jarn | sredna: My installation of what? And how? And what am I supposed to check it for? |
| 23:24.36 | sredna | Yea, that is the problem.. the installation is of course KDE |
| 23:24.58 | Jarn | sredna: Okay, how? And what am I supposed to check it for? |
| 23:25.06 | sredna | Something look at the error output if possible |
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| 23:25.32 | sredna | Jarn: If you have ~/.xsession-errors, look at that for related errors |
| 23:25.33 | Jarn | sredna: Error output? that was the exact error there. |
| 23:27.21 | Jarn | sredna: kicker: WARNING: cannot open applet: libartscontrolapplet because of Library files for "libartscontrolapplet.la" not found in paths. |
| 23:27.30 | Jarn | sredna: I'll check if I have that. |
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| 23:29.36 | sredna | Jarn: Oh, that is a nice, relevant error message for once :) |
| 23:30.49 | Jarn | sredna: Heh. How do I find out where that would be if I had it? |
| 23:30.53 | mobtek | haha sredna sarcasm :) |
| 23:31.15 | Jarn | sredna: I love the new KDE. On 3.3 just nothing happened. Now it atleast TELLS me there's an error. |
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| 23:31.27 | sredna | mobtek: Absolutely not, I just show my respect. Providing relevant, understandable output is not easy |
| 23:31.33 | mobtek | kekeke |
| 23:32.05 | Jarn | sredna: So where would that be if I had it? |
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| 23:32.31 | sredna | Jarn: It should be in KDEDIR/lib/kde3 I believe |
| 23:32.48 | Jarn | sredna: How do I know what the kdedir is. |
| 23:32.59 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ locate libartscontrolapplet |
| 23:33.03 | sredna | /opt/kdecvs/lib/libartscontrolapplet.la |
| 23:33.45 | Jarn | jarn@linc:~$ locate libartscontrolapplet.la |
| 23:33.45 | Jarn | jarn@linc:~$ |
| 23:33.49 | Jarn | Okay, so I don't have it. |
| 23:33.52 | Jarn | now where do I get it? |
| 23:33.57 | sredna | Jarn: You could execute 'kde-config --prefix' or 'kde-config --path lib' |
| 23:34.10 | sredna | Jarn: How did you install kde? |
| 23:34.21 | Jarn | sredna: apt-get install kde |
| 23:34.32 | Jarn | sredna: Well, the first time. |
| 23:34.38 | sredna | Debian.. |
| 23:34.38 | Jarn | sredna: Last time I just did apt-get upgrade |
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| 23:35.09 | Jarn | sredna: I have the unstable release. Sid, i think it's called. I forget. |
| 23:35.13 | sredna | The applet is in the kdemultimedia module, but if I understand things right, debian has no concept of modules |
| 23:35.32 | Jarn | peer |
| 23:35.32 | sredna | Jarn: Maybe they will know in #debian-kde |
| 23:35.38 | sredna | Which package to install |
| 23:36.00 | Jarn | okay |
| 23:38.30 | Jarn | No answer as of yet |
| 23:39.37 | Jarn | Hmm... |
| 23:39.43 | Jarn | They tell me to check the contents file. |
| 23:39.45 | sredna | Well, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to debian |
| 23:39.47 | Jarn | the contents file of what?! |
| 23:39.48 | Jarn | :P |
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| 23:43.19 | dob | hi |
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| 23:44.02 | Oleg_ | yi |
| 23:44.04 | Oleg_ | yo |
| 23:44.31 | Oleg_ | I want to connect to the fucking www.teleserial.ru and one of my ISP can connect to it |
| 23:44.38 | Oleg_ | while the other can't |
| 23:44.59 | Oleg_ | but the ISP that connects I am able to use only 10 hours per month |
| 23:45.03 | dob | i have a problem with gtk1 application on kde, for example sylpheed, look at that image http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=kde8lx.jpg why there are these lines on "Inbox, sent ..." etc etc? if i run the same application on gnome it works perfect |
| 23:45.06 | Oleg_ | and those hours are over |
| 23:45.11 | Oleg_ | so, wtf?!! |
| 23:45.44 | Oleg_ | tell me how I can make the ISP that I commonly use to connect to www.teleserial.ru |
| 23:45.57 | Oleg_ | maybe it can't find the host to the site? |
| 23:46.36 | Oleg_ | I didn't even know that such problems could exist |
| 23:46.39 | thiago | are you using that ISP now, Oleg_ ? |
| 23:46.41 | Jarn | Oleg, don't boss people around. Ask politely if anyone knows how you can make it work. |
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| 23:46.51 | Oleg_ | I mean, one ISP can connect, while the other can't |
| 23:46.56 | Oleg_ | Jarn: ok |
| 23:47.01 | Oleg_ | thiago: yeah |
| 23:47.02 | lopp | how do i use the kwifimanager to get an ip address? |
| 23:47.06 | thiago | Oleg_: what's the error message? |
| 23:47.19 | thiago | dob: not a KDE bug, that's for sure |
| 23:47.21 | Oleg_ | An error occurred while loading http://www.teleserial.ru/: |
| 23:47.21 | Oleg_ | Unknown host www.teleserial.cîm |
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| 23:48.09 | thiago | what's "cîm"? |
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| 23:48.30 | Oleg_ | I don't know |
| 23:48.35 | dob | thiago: i don't know what can be the problem |
| 23:48.45 | Jarn | why do you have the /: after it |
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| 23:49.15 | Oleg_ | Jarn: I get the same thing without / |
| 23:49.18 | thiago | Oleg_: what did you type in the Location field? |
| 23:49.21 | Oleg_ | An error occurred while loading http://www.teleserial.ru: |
| 23:49.22 | Oleg_ | Unknown host www.teleserial.cîm |
| 23:49.25 | Jarn | try without the : |
| 23:49.32 | Jarn | just teleserial.ru |
| 23:49.55 | Oleg_ | I never typed : |
| 23:50.09 | Oleg_ | thiago: I typed www.teleserial.ru |
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| 23:50.34 | syamajala | hi i seem to be getting this error when trying to build kdelibs 3.4 |
| 23:51.11 | syamajala | configure: error: Fast malloc is not supported on this platform (missing spinlock implementation) |
| 23:51.32 | thiago | you're being redirected |
| 23:51.43 | Jarn | sredna: what is yer version of kde? if its the same as mine, could you dcc me you libartscontrolapplet.la? |
| 23:51.50 | thiago | it's either your ISP or teleserial |
| 23:52.00 | sredna | Jarn: Mine is cvs HEAD |
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| 23:52.12 | Jarn | sredna: Oh. mine is 3.4 |
| 23:52.19 | Oleg_ | thiago: but I am able to connect to it using my other ISP |
| 23:52.31 | syamajala | any ideas y that is happening? |
| 23:52.35 | syamajala | i'm trying to build on amd64 |
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| 23:54.43 | Oleg_ | so |
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| 23:55.10 | thiago | Oleg_: that changes nothing |
| 23:55.25 | thiago | it seems someone wrote "teleserial.com" as "teleserial.cÑŽm" |
| 23:55.27 | Jarn | sredna: do you know anywhere I can download the file itself |
| 23:55.47 | syamajala | nvm |
| 23:55.51 | syamajala | i figured it out |
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| 23:56.23 | Oleg_ | thiago: but why the other ISP sees www.teleserial.com correctly? |
| 23:57.02 | sredna | Jarn: You need a binary from the same source as the rest of your kde isntallation, or alternatively compile it |
| 23:57.11 | Jarn | sredna: Bah. |
| 23:57.25 | thiago | Oleg_: I don't know |
| 23:57.31 | thiago | it's either the ISP or the site itself that is redirecting |
| 23:57.34 | thiago | either way, it doesn't matter |
| 23:57.40 | thiago | just go to teleserial.com |
| 23:57.42 | Oleg_ | thiago: ok |
| 23:57.59 | sredna | Jarn: I'm sure that debian packages exist, if you find the right source |
| 23:58.05 | Oleg_ | I get the same bull |
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| 23:58.48 | thiago | Oleg_: try this: telnet www.teleserial.com 80 |
| 23:58.56 | thiago | then type: GET / HTTP/1.1 |
| 23:59.00 | thiago | then: Host: www.teleserial.com |
| 23:59.04 | thiago | then hit Enter twice |
| 23:59.31 | Oleg_ | telnet inside the konqueror's address bar? |
| 23:59.43 | thiago | no |
| 23:59.44 | thiago | on the shell |
| 23:59.47 | Oleg_ | ok |
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