| 00:00.11 | Renze | name773: you really should read some of the gentoo documentation sometime... it's very good |
| 00:00.42 | name773 | Renze: i did for the initial installation |
| 00:00.57 | Renze | name773: and the initial installation docs cover that, IIRC |
| 00:01.41 | name773 | really? i only read up to the part where you boot the computer into a console and went from there with emerge |
| 00:01.56 | Alari1 | How does one manage a Lost Terminal disconnection, if you want to purposely |
| 00:02.13 | Renze | Alari1: from what IRC client? |
| 00:02.35 | ciccio2000 | does anybody know if it's possible torun fluxbox inside kde? |
| 00:02.36 | Alari1 | Renze: Well i'm using xchat ATM, but i assumed it was a CLI client, so i got ircII |
| 00:03.20 | Renze | Alari1: with ircII, just close the terminal it's in, for xchat it's less friendly... ctrl-alt-backspace to "kill" X |
| 00:03.29 | ciccio2000 | I'd like to use my fluxbox keybindings etc, but alsothe interoperability offered by kde |
| 00:03.57 | aseigo | ciccio2000: yes, yes it is. |
| 00:04.00 | ciccio2000 | likeu do in gnome, u can usa sawfish, or metscity, etc |
| 00:04.04 | Alari1 | Renze: Ahh.. i tried starting it in a screen session and then detatching it, and killing screen. Connection reset by peer. :-P |
| 00:04.16 | Renze | ciccio2000: set KDEWM=fluxbox before starting KDE |
| 00:04.23 | ciccio2000 | aseigo: could u help mesetting that up? |
| 00:04.27 | ciccio2000 | ah, k |
| 00:04.28 | ciccio2000 | nice |
| 00:04.33 | ciccio2000 | tnx Renze |
| 00:04.49 | Weasel[DK] | why does my applications in KDE always popup on a different desktop when i start theme ?? |
| 00:05.03 | aseigo | ciccio2000: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 00:05.26 | bietch | who can help me mount the fat32 hdd on linux ? |
| 00:05.29 | aseigo | Weasel[DK]: they should pop up on the desktop you start them on. |
| 00:05.55 | Weasel[DK] | aseigo, well they don't :( |
| 00:06.11 | Novell | bietch: mount -t vfat /dev/hdXX /where/you/want/it/mounted |
| 00:06.59 | Renze | Weasel[DK]: perhaps it's distro borkage? |
| 00:07.05 | Novell | You can use fdisk -l /dev/hdX to find out what partition is your fat32 partition |
| 00:08.53 | Weasel[DK] | Renze, hmm i have 2 boxes with the same distro.. one works ok the other don't ? |
| 00:09.35 | bietch | Novell, for your information,i have 3 hdds on this pc... |
| 00:10.08 | bietch | winblows - fat32 |
| 00:10.19 | bietch | but i boot from the winblows hdd |
| 00:10.29 | bietch | grr i also dont know how to tell it |
| 00:10.43 | Renze | Weasel[DK]: must be user borkage then :) |
| 00:11.35 | Novell | bietch: so check all of them for the partition you want to mount |
| 00:12.05 | bietch | Novell, df -ma ? |
| 00:12.28 | ciccio2000 | aseigo: Renze fluxbox is not listed as acompatible wm... any of u triedit out? |
| 00:12.48 | Renze | ciccio2000: never used anything other than kwin with kde... never wanted to |
| 00:12.59 | Novell | bietch: fdisk -l /dev/hdX |
| 00:13.05 | Weasel[DK] | Renze, yeah well i think i have put some settings wrong some where... thought someone could tell me ;) |
| 00:13.18 | Novell | replace X with the disk you want to see the partitions on |
| 00:13.26 | Renze | Weasel[DK]: I've never run into the problem, so I can't help you |
| 00:13.44 | bietch | bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 00:13.51 | Renze | bietch: you need to be root |
| 00:14.01 | Weasel[DK] | Renze, well thanks anyway :) |
| 00:14.16 | bietch | bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 00:14.16 | bietch | [root@localhost genetics]# |
| 00:14.24 | bietch | already in root baby~ |
| 00:14.37 | Renze | fedora doesn't include fdisk? now that is fscked up... |
| 00:15.15 | bietch | :( |
| 00:15.51 | Novell | do you have cfdisk ? |
| 00:16.30 | bietch | bash: cfdisk: command not found |
| 00:16.42 | Alethes | I wonder if he installed everything |
| 00:16.47 | Alethes | wait a sec |
| 00:16.50 | Alethes | are you root, bietch? |
| 00:16.57 | Renze | Alethes: "she" :) |
| 00:17.06 | Alethes | ah |
| 00:17.07 | Alethes | whatever ;) |
| 00:19.06 | Renze | bietch: try /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hdX |
| 00:19.22 | bietch | trying Renze |
| 00:19.38 | Renze | with X replaced with whatever drive you want to list the partitions on, of course |
| 00:19.50 | bietch | one sec , how to check the hdx ? |
| 00:19.56 | Renze | try hda |
| 00:20.24 | bietch | /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda ? |
| 00:20.30 | Renze | a = master harddrive on first ide controller, b = slave on first, etc |
| 00:20.33 | Renze | yes |
| 00:21.05 | bietch | winblows and fedora boot on the same hdd but run on different hdd |
| 00:21.13 | bietch | Renze, trying dear.. |
| 00:21.22 | Renze | can you say that again in English? :) |
| 00:21.54 | bietch | /dev/hda1 * 1 2919 23446836 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) |
| 00:21.54 | bietch | /dev/hda2 2920 4865 15631245 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 00:21.54 | bietch | /dev/hda5 2920 4865 15631213+ b W95 FAT32 |
| 00:22.04 | bietch | Renze, sorry..my english = worst |
| 00:22.13 | Renze | looks like you want to mount hda5 |
| 00:22.20 | Alethes | you speak english better than I speak your language |
| 00:22.47 | bietch | :/ but formal language is english..nothing to do with my language here Alethes |
| 00:22.48 | bietch | :/ |
| 00:22.51 | Renze | actually, it could be any of them |
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| 00:23.19 | Renze | bietch: try each of them until you find what you need |
| 00:23.24 | bietch | Renze, i have 3 hdds here..2 of them loads of datastore,assignment,mp3s and video |
| 00:23.45 | bietch | mount -t vfat32 ? |
| 00:24.13 | Renze | mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /where/you/want/to/mount/it |
| 00:24.23 | Renze | or whichever number you want to try |
| 00:24.49 | bietch | Renze, im sorry if i just make you feel not comfortable with me..sorry |
| 00:28.02 | Alethes | is the gecko that's being ported to use with konq going to use qt widgets? |
| 00:28.06 | bietch | mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist |
| 00:28.07 | bietch | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.18 | aseigo | Alethes: that was largely the point, yep =) |
| 00:28.21 | Alethes | or is it just going to match the colors and scrollbars like it does for gtk |
| 00:28.42 | aseigo | it even uses Qt to do the text rendering. |
| 00:28.46 | Alethes | dang |
| 00:28.55 | Alethes | somebody's doing a thorough job, huh? :) |
| 00:29.10 | Renze | bietch: no / at the end |
| 00:29.33 | Renze | bietch: /dev/hda1 |
| 00:30.24 | bietch | Renze, yes..done...the winblows folder on my linux now |
| 00:30.40 | Renze | bietch: and you can do the same with the other numbers if you need to |
| 00:30.45 | bietch | Renze, i have 4 partition on my winblows..so they all are hda1 ? |
| 00:30.57 | Renze | bietch: no, you have hda1, hda2, and hda5 |
| 00:31.13 | Renze | like in the list you got from fdisk |
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| 00:31.27 | bietch | Renze, wait..i try to mount all the partition |
| 00:33.07 | Renze | bietch: I suspect hda2 and hda5 are the same partition |
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| 00:33.37 | bietch | ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2 |
| 00:33.55 | Vanquisher | where do you post problems with the alpha version |
| 00:33.59 | Renze | bietch: yeah, I suspected as much... hda5 is the second partition |
| 00:36.01 | bietch | hoho |
| 00:36.02 | bietch | ok ok |
| 00:36.23 | Renze | bietch: windows partitioning schemes are silly :) |
| 00:36.58 | bietch | nah..there are one more partition on windows left..where is it ? |
| 00:37.02 | bietch | lets find it |
| 00:37.16 | Renze | bietch: there are only two on hda... do you have another harddrive? |
| 00:37.31 | bietch | Renze, i have 3 x 40 GB on my pc right now |
| 00:37.48 | Renze | bietch: so do /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hdb |
| 00:38.45 | bietch | yes sir! |
| 00:39.08 | bietch | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.09 | bietch | /dev/hdb1 * 1 2499 20073186 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) |
| 00:39.09 | bietch | /dev/hdb2 2500 4998 20073217+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 00:39.09 | bietch | /dev/hdb5 2500 4998 20073186 b W95 FAT32 |
| 00:39.22 | Renze | there you go... try mounting hdb1 and hdb5 |
| 00:39.23 | bietch | hdb 1 and hdb 5 right ? |
| 00:39.34 | bietch | okkk |
| 00:40.48 | bietch | Renze, no need to save it first ? |
| 00:40.55 | Renze | save what? |
| 00:41.03 | bietch | i want it auto mount everytime i start the fedora |
| 00:41.17 | Renze | bietch: ah, then you need to add lines to your /etc/fstab file |
| 00:41.27 | Renze | bietch: you should have said that in the first place :) |
| 00:41.30 | bietch | i just remember the fstab |
| 00:41.40 | bietch | grrr :/ |
| 00:41.49 | bietch | so i need to umount it back ? |
| 00:42.08 | Renze | bietch: only if you want to :) |
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| 00:42.47 | bietch | do i need to umount it back before add the lines into the fstab.conf ? |
| 00:43.03 | Renze | bietch: you can if you want to, but it makes no difference |
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| 00:43.36 | Renze | bietch: you'd need to do a mount -a after adding the lines to fstab anyway |
| 00:44.57 | bietch | Renze, sorry sir..i dont get u about the mount -a |
| 00:45.05 | bietch | mount -a /dev/hda1 ? |
| 00:45.33 | Renze | bietch: if you edit /etc/fstab. and you want all the drives you just added mounted, mount -a will mount all automount entries in fstab |
| 00:46.02 | Renze | you don't need to do that every time, only after you've changed fstab to include new mounts |
| 00:46.27 | bietch | so what should i write in fstab.conf ? |
| 00:46.56 | Renze | it's fstab, not fstab.conf :) |
| 00:46.58 | AssociateX | Renze, do you know how to make data cd's auto mount when they are put in the cd drive? |
| 00:47.22 | Renze | AssociateX: one moment, busy with somebody else |
| 00:47.25 | bietch | yeah Renze ...sorry..my fault |
| 00:47.38 | Renze | bietch: you'd add lines like this: |
| 00:47.43 | AssociateX | oh take you time, I just put it out there |
| 00:48.17 | Renze | /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah vfat auto,user 0 0 |
| 00:48.28 | Renze | /dev/hda5 /mnt/anotherblah vfat auto,user 0 0 |
| 00:48.34 | Renze | etc... |
| 00:48.58 | bietch | 0_o |
| 00:49.01 | bietch | ok ok..trying sir |
| 00:49.29 | Renze | AssociateX: there's no easy way to do automounting in linux... have a look at autofs or supermount or something |
| 00:49.44 | AssociateX | ok, thanks |
| 00:50.32 | bietch | ./dev/hda1 /home/me/winblows1 ? |
| 00:50.39 | bietch | i mount that partition in /home/user/newfolder |
| 00:50.41 | Renze | bietch: if that's where you're mounting it, sure... |
| 00:51.07 | Renze | but don't forget the rest of the line |
| 00:52.10 | Renze | basically it is <device> <mountpoint> <filesystem> <options> <dump> <pass> but don't worry about dump and pass :) |
| 00:52.18 | bietch | i need to remember the folder back |
| 00:52.37 | bietch | trying.. |
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| 00:54.29 | AssociateX | /dev/hda1 /mnt/storage vfat umask=0 0 0 |
| 00:54.43 | AssociateX | only if you dont care who accesses it |
| 00:55.25 | AssociateX | other wise umask=022 or something like that |
| 00:56.28 | Renze | and I'm very happy without it :) |
| 00:56.52 | bietch | if i just "/dev/hda1 /mnt/storage" , can i do the works from linux and save on the mount partition in hda1 ? |
| 00:57.08 | Renze | eh? |
| 00:57.56 | bietch | err Renze ? |
| 00:58.07 | Renze | sorry, didn't understand your last line :) |
| 00:58.47 | bietch | eg : i do the assignment on fedora,but after a days,i want continue back that works on winblows..can i open the file which is save from linux in winblows ? |
| 00:58.49 | bietch | fuhh~ |
| 00:59.39 | Renze | bietch: yes, as long as it's in a format that winblows knows about |
| 01:00.10 | bietch | i also can save the files on mounted partition ? |
| 01:00.11 | Renze | i.e. you can't expect MS Word to open a KWord document |
| 01:00.15 | Renze | yes |
| 01:00.55 | bietch | Renze, ....hmm..can u join #flooderz again ? i just want a confirmation what i write in fstab |
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| 01:18.28 | suni | hi |
| 01:18.42 | suni | why dosen't kvirc come default with kde? |
| 01:19.41 | StevenR | because it's not been made part of it |
| 01:20.35 | Renze | and kvirc is ugly :) |
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| 01:23.26 | Numz | hi i need to put this as argument of a dcop call in khotkeys: $((`dcop amarok default trackCurrentTime` + 20)) |
| 01:23.33 | Numz | but that doesnt execute |
| 01:25.33 | annma | kvirc is not well integrated in kde I agree with reisi |
| 01:25.40 | annma | with Renze I mean |
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| 01:29.27 | suni | i installed kvirc for a user, i was using xchat and other console clients |
| 01:29.35 | suni | but i've come to like kvirc |
| 01:30.06 | Renze | I used it once, and then uninstalled it ten minutes later |
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| 01:30.14 | Renze | it was terrible |
| 01:30.20 | suni | 3.0.1 is actually quite nice |
| 01:30.28 | Alethes | Renze: is there a better irc client for kde? |
| 01:30.36 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 01:30.39 | Alethes | I remember that one |
| 01:30.49 | suni | xchat is rather horrid too |
| 01:31.02 | Renze | xchat is a lot nicer than kvirc |
| 01:31.18 | Alethes | anybody ever noticed how hard it is to tell which app is which on the taskbar when you have several apps open and all you can see is "K"? |
| 01:31.25 | suni | kvirc is feature rich |
| 01:31.38 | suni | i'm a convert |
| 01:31.45 | Renze | kvirc is bloated and ugly |
| 01:32.05 | suni | we have the ram, we have the power. |
| 01:32.06 | Renze | Alethes: I don't have that problem |
| 01:32.23 | Alethes | you won't if you don't open a lot of windows |
| 01:32.27 | Renze | suni: but there is no excuse for bloat |
| 01:32.41 | suni | Renze: sorry, we are talking about bloat in #kde? |
| 01:32.47 | Renze | Alethes: I sometimes have up to a dozen or more windows open |
| 01:32.49 | suni | hehe |
| 01:32.55 | mobtek | hmm konversation is luverly :) |
| 01:32.56 | Renze | kde isn't bloated |
| 01:33.00 | suni | hehehe |
| 01:33.07 | Renze | that's just FUD |
| 01:33.15 | Renze | and suni is a troll |
| 01:33.23 | suni | no i'm not! :) |
| 01:33.38 | suni | you run xchat in kde! |
| 01:33.40 | suni | lol |
| 01:33.49 | Renze | no, I use konversation in kde |
| 01:33.53 | mobtek | hahah no he runs konvi |
| 01:33.54 | Renze | pay attention |
| 01:33.57 | Alethes | konversation kinda looks like xchat with some tweaks (which is a good thing) |
| 01:34.10 | mobtek | wtf would you run xchat, it really is bloated for an irc client |
| 01:34.24 | mobtek | unless you are an irc warriorz :P |
| 01:34.38 | suni | let me try out konversation |
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| 01:35.13 | annma | irc war! |
| 01:35.14 | Alethes | are you serious? heh |
| 01:35.23 | Alethes | http://www.konversation.org/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=25&page=view&imgid=36&hit=1 |
| 01:35.25 | mobtek | :) |
| 01:35.28 | Alethes | that looks identical to xchat |
| 01:35.31 | annma | yeah, as soon as I open it I long to close it |
| 01:35.56 | mobtek | annma: you a bitchx fan? |
| 01:36.06 | annma | not quite |
| 01:36.10 | suni | epic? |
| 01:36.11 | mobtek | heheh |
| 01:36.15 | mobtek | irssi? |
| 01:36.22 | annma | not at all |
| 01:36.28 | suni | raw? |
| 01:36.30 | suni | hehe |
| 01:36.32 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:36.33 | Alethes | telnet |
| 01:36.34 | mobtek | hahaha |
| 01:36.37 | mobtek | ksirc :) |
| 01:36.42 | annma | ah ah ah |
| 01:36.46 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.49 | annma | :> |
| 01:36.50 | mobtek | :P |
| 01:36.59 | bietch | annma using Mirc :p |
| 01:36.59 | bietch | hoho |
| 01:37.05 | annma | oh not Mirc! |
| 01:37.11 | suni | ksirc? can't use dcc with ksirc |
| 01:37.21 | Alethes | say, when is somebody gonna port mirc to kde? }:D |
| 01:37.25 | annma | you can't? I use it all the time |
| 01:37.27 | Renze | who uses dcc? it's a crappy protocol |
| 01:37.35 | suni | Alethes: you serious? |
| 01:37.38 | Alethes | no |
| 01:37.38 | Alethes | :P |
| 01:37.40 | suni | hehe |
| 01:37.48 | annma | mirc sucks big time |
| 01:37.57 | Alethes | somebody thought I was serious about "wales" being cooler than sheep too |
| 01:38.02 | suni | Renze: how else do i get my mp3s? |
| 01:38.10 | Renze | suni: p2p? |
| 01:38.14 | suni | nah |
| 01:38.17 | annma | get? define 'get' |
| 01:38.24 | suni | get==leech |
| 01:38.28 | suni | :P |
| 01:38.30 | annma | leech? |
| 01:38.44 | Renze | although I prefer oggs |
| 01:38.45 | annma | via bittorrent even |
| 01:38.49 | Alethes | Apollon? |
| 01:39.03 | annma | Apollon, yeap, no K in it but KDE |
| 01:39.26 | Alethes | amazing no k :P |
| 01:39.39 | Paleo | at least ;P |
| 01:39.53 | Alethes | I think if there was anything I'd change about KDE, it'd be the knames kof the kapps |
| 01:40.07 | annma | wrong, alejandro |
| 01:40.13 | Renze | gjust glike gnome? |
| 01:40.14 | annma | Alethes I mean |
| 01:40.19 | suni | yes |
| 01:40.23 | Alethes | Renze: gnome's HIG doesn't allow that anymore |
| 01:40.24 | Paleo | i wish there would be no more tux artwork on kde-look.org and no more word game with K in software name :) |
| 01:40.29 | annma | the Kapp naming is great PR |
| 01:40.39 | Alethes | but it's crappy for usability |
| 01:40.45 | annma | Alethes: no G before gnome apps? |
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| 01:40.52 | suni | whats K stand for anyhow :) |
| 01:40.54 | Alethes | annma: not any of the new ones, really |
| 01:40.58 | annma | why is it Alethes ? |
| 01:41.00 | Renze | K stands for K |
| 01:41.02 | Alethes | like evolution, nautilus, zenity, etc |
| 01:41.04 | aseigo | "it's crappy for usability"? |
| 01:41.07 | aseigo | hahahahaahahahaha |
| 01:41.10 | Paleo | suni it stand for Kool back in the past |
| 01:41.16 | aseigo | that's right. because Evolution is OBVIOUSLY a mail app |
| 01:41.25 | aseigo | and "nautilus" is OBVIOUSLY a file manager |
| 01:41.26 | annma | Alethes: you'd better explain and have sensible arguments |
| 01:41.33 | suni | Paleo: sound euro |
| 01:41.35 | aseigo | and "zenity" is... i dont' even know what zenity is. |
| 01:41.35 | annma | yeah, right |
| 01:41.37 | aseigo | heh |
| 01:41.46 | Alethes | annma: I gave a good example earlier regarding that situation |
| 01:41.57 | annma | I was not listening earlier |
| 01:42.01 | suni | ok konversation is compiled |
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| 01:42.30 | Alethes | (20:31:06) <Alethes> anybody ever noticed how hard it is to tell which app is which on the taskbar when you have several apps open and all you can see is "K"? |
| 01:42.44 | suni | nah too many K's |
| 01:43.13 | annma | Alethes: and if you see E it'll help???? |
| 01:43.18 | aseigo | Alethes: that's why we have icons =) |
| 01:43.26 | Alethes | annma: compared to "N" for nautilus, etc |
| 01:43.40 | Alethes | I assume you're referring to the E in evolution |
| 01:43.46 | suni | omg konversation looks exactly like xchat? |
| 01:43.49 | annma | I never use those apps |
| 01:44.04 | annma | I am not encline to use them because of their names in fact |
| 01:44.22 | Alethes | *shrug* |
| 01:44.38 | Alethes | doesn't matter much to me, so it's not really worth debating |
| 01:45.04 | annma | you have to keep the user in mind anyway |
| 01:45.09 | annma | not geeks |
| 01:46.19 | Alethes | hey, does kde's panel group windows on buttons? |
| 01:46.34 | Alethes | if you have more than one instance of an app running, that is |
| 01:46.46 | Renze | Alethes: if you set it to, yes |
| 01:46.49 | Alethes | cool |
| 01:46.54 | suni | Alethes: that is optional |
| 01:46.58 | Alethes | right |
| 01:47.04 | Alethes | I just wondered if it was an option |
| 01:47.16 | suni | just adds to the bloat |
| 01:47.42 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:47.51 | suni | how rude |
| 01:48.02 | Alethes | 10 years ago fluxbox would have been considered bloat |
| 01:48.11 | suni | i didn't ask for a enema |
| 01:48.20 | Alethes | that's why he didn't use a waterhose |
| 01:48.31 | Renze | or hydrofluoric acid :) |
| 01:48.33 | Alethes | hah |
| 01:48.48 | suni | fluxbox is nice |
| 01:48.54 | annma | what bloat, suni ? |
| 01:48.59 | Alethes | compared to twm :) |
| 01:49.02 | annma | fluxbox ain't kde |
| 01:49.12 | annma | compare what can be compared |
| 01:49.25 | annma | kde can run with fluxbox however |
| 01:49.26 | suni | i run kde |
| 01:49.34 | suni | i like it alot |
| 01:49.36 | annma | with fluxbox/ |
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| 01:50.33 | suni | does anyone use an iriver? |
| 01:54.30 | Renze | only when I'm in an iboar |
| 01:54.33 | Renze | iboat, even |
| 01:54.48 | Renze | or going for an iswim |
| 01:55.27 | Alethes | looks like apple's naming scheme ;) |
| 01:56.00 | suni | i'm looking for some icons :) |
| 01:56.02 | Renze | or iskipping irocks |
| 01:56.48 | suni | or ibloat? |
| 01:56.55 | suni | hehehe :) |
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| 01:57.15 | Renze | you need to get rid of the bloat idea, suni... you're gonna make enemies :) |
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| 01:57.36 | Renze | there are good days?!? |
| 01:57.42 | suni | besides you started it =} |
| 01:57.51 | suni | everyday is a suni day :) |
| 01:58.26 | Renze | suni: you said bloat first :P |
| 01:59.03 | suni | logs don't lie.. |
| 01:59.16 | suni | did you know, the kvirc replaces smileys with REAL ICONS! wow! |
| 01:59.44 | suni | and its configurable |
| 01:59.49 | suni | :P |
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| 02:01.26 | Renze | blech |
| 02:01.36 | suni | i need to configure icons for =) =] ;P :] :I ;) |
| 02:01.47 | Renze | :O c==8 |
| 02:02.48 | suni | theres an icon for :O |
| 02:03.16 | suni | i guess you could make an icon for c==8 if you where bored. |
| 02:03.55 | Renze | but why would you want to? |
| 02:04.06 | suni | you probably would |
| 02:04.09 | suni | _rimshot_ |
| 02:04.37 | Renze | no, I'd make one for (oYo) |
| 02:04.53 | suni | hmm, perhaps you should stay clear of kvirc then ;) |
| 02:06.28 | Renze | I already do... it's too ugly :) |
| 02:06.41 | Renze | konversation is much nicer |
| 02:08.15 | suni | its bloated..i'm serious.. |
| 02:08.45 | suni | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 911356 Dec 17 12:45 /usr/bin/konversation |
| 02:08.53 | suni | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 465060 Nov 21 15:34 /usr/bin/xchat-2 |
| 02:08.56 | suni | :P |
| 02:09.56 | Renze | suni: xchat-2 is only part of the package |
| 02:10.42 | suni | i duna care no mo |
| 02:10.45 | suni | =) |
| 02:11.52 | Renze | suni: you're the one that keeps going on and on about it |
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| 02:36.47 | gnome | on this day and age, there is still someone debating over 400KB? |
| 02:39.47 | Renze | actually, my konversation binary is much larger, but I have debugging symbols in there :) |
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| 02:45.33 | whorrix | any kppp users here |
| 02:45.56 | Renze | that's that dialup thing, isn't it? I vaguely remember that :) |
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| 02:46.54 | whorrix | yes i have had to use it cause my net line is dead |
| 02:47.27 | whorrix | i get a error saing cannot get /dev/ppp0 |
| 02:47.36 | whorrix | cannot open or something |
| 02:48.09 | whorrix | any way ciao |
| 02:48.17 | whorrix | time to aubuse the isp guys |
| 02:48.24 | Determinist | a silly question: where can i get one of those nifty stats things (cpu temp , weather , free hd space) that stay on your desktop? |
| 02:48.51 | suni | www.sillystuff.org |
| 02:49.00 | Determinist | ummm :P |
| 02:49.04 | Renze | Determinist: install SuperKaramba, and an appropriate karamba theme |
| 02:49.23 | Determinist | thanks Renze |
| 02:49.25 | Renze | http://netdragon.sourceforge.net |
| 02:49.36 | Renze | http://kde-look.org |
| 02:49.50 | Determinist | kde-look.org doesnt seem to have those , i've looked |
| 02:50.13 | Renze | http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38&PHPSESSID=a9290be83a24a33700043b8d0ff75709 |
| 02:50.20 | Renze | didn't look very hard, did you? |
| 02:50.50 | livingtm | hello. the cygwin website has a screenshot labelled "Cygwin/X logged into a Debian Linux machine running KDE 3.1 via XDMCP." does this mean that you can display KDE on a debian machine in a window on cygwin? |
| 02:50.58 | livingtm | or is this kde running on cygwin? |
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| 02:51.02 | Determinist | ummm , i looked through the kde improvements section |
| 02:51.24 | Renze | livingtm: it's running on the debian box, but displayed on cygwin |
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| 02:51.32 | Renze | Determinist: look in the karamba section |
| 02:51.38 | livingtm | Renze: how do we pull THAT off? |
| 02:52.01 | Renze | livingtm: that's what you did with xclock the other day |
| 02:52.22 | Renze | livingtm: xclock was "running" on the linux box, but "displaying" on your windows box |
| 02:52.30 | livingtm | okay, well im SSH'ed into debian, and i hit "kdm" and it exited |
| 02:52.41 | Presidente | hey, does anyone know if there is something to be done before making upgradepkg from kde 3.3.1 to kde 3.3.2 |
| 02:52.53 | Renze | livingtm: that's what xdmrc is for... don't ask me how to set it up, I have no idea :) |
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| 02:53.22 | Presidente | I've just done it and i cant login from runlevel 4 |
| 02:53.56 | Renze | Presidente: what distro? |
| 02:53.58 | Presidente | i've got to login as console and then type startx |
| 02:54.03 | Presidente | slack 10 |
| 02:54.23 | Renze | Presidente: I know there are people using Slack around here somewhere... |
| 02:54.35 | Renze | wait for a bit until one of them responds |
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| 02:55.01 | Presidente | all right, so you thing it must be something with the distro. |
| 02:55.18 | Presidente | ok, thanks |
| 02:55.21 | Renze | Presidente: Slack uses a different init than other distros |
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| 02:55.40 | Presidente | i see |
| 02:55.43 | livingtm | Renze: kde is a window manager isnt it? how does a window manager manage remote windows?? |
| 02:56.03 | Renze | livingtm: kde is a desktop environment, within which kwin is a window manager |
| 02:56.22 | livingtm | Renze: would i likely find help in cygwin or in kde |
| 02:56.23 | Renze | livingtm: X allows something running on one machine to be displayed on another |
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| 02:57.30 | livingtm | Renze: but kwin runs on debian or on cygwin? |
| 02:57.36 | ld50 | anybody knows why mplayer adds some ugly random pink/green/blue pixels to my konqueror window? |
| 02:57.48 | Renze | livingtm: on debian, cygwin just displays it |
| 02:58.02 | livingtm | Renze: im just trying to understaand how the pieces fit together.. thanks for being patient |
| 02:59.50 | livingtm | Renze: cygwin docs (website anyhow) dont seem to cover that configuration |
| 03:00.10 | Renze | livingtm: I wouldn't know.. I've never used cygwin :) |
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| 03:15.43 | livingtm | Renze: ~/.xdmrc? |
| 03:16.05 | Renze | livingtm: no |
| 03:16.25 | Renze | although there might be a setting in there... |
| 03:17.55 | gnome | livingtm: you'd need the following: on the linux machine, install a display manager. kdm or xdm is ok. set the display manager to enable xdmcp. also set the display manager to allow access from your x server machine (your windows machine). start the display manager and from windows machine, start your xserver, telling it to send xdmcp query the linux machine |
| 03:18.27 | Renze | yeah, what gnome said :) |
| 03:18.31 | livingtm | :-) |
| 03:19.47 | livingtm | gnome: kdm is on the linux machine. I can already display debian apps on cygwin. is there something more i need to do to enable xdmcp? |
| 03:20.02 | livingtm | gnome: in kde? |
| 03:20.43 | gnome | livingtm: actually, since you don't seem to know what xdmcp, why do you want it? |
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| 03:22.06 | livingtm | gnome: well, i had to go through an exercise enabling xdmcp to get this far.. thats why i ask if i need to do more. Im doing this all to learn |
| 03:22.39 | livingtm | gnome: cause linux apps dont look right with WindowsXP frames around them :-) |
| 03:23.22 | gnome | livingtm: i have no idea what you are talking about... anyway: |
| 03:23.27 | gnome | livingtm: to enable xdmcp: on xdm, comment out DisplayManager.requestPort in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config; on kdm, set Enable=true in /etc/kde3/kdm |
| 03:23.54 | gnome | livingtm: add this line: * CHOOSER BROADCAST |
| 03:24.06 | gnome | livingtm: to either /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess or /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess |
| 03:24.18 | gnome | livingtm: (whichever one you are using) |
| 03:24.25 | gnome | livingtm: restart xdm/kdm |
| 03:24.29 | gnome | livingtm: and you're done |
| 03:24.44 | gnome | livingtm: then query it from your windows machine |
| 03:26.06 | gnome | i'm not sure what the xserver from cygwin is like. but, if it is like xfree86 xserver, then you can run it like: startx -query <linuxmachineaddress> or just startx -broadcast |
| 03:27.29 | livingtm | gnome: i seem to have kde2, is it same same, or do i need kde3? |
| 03:27.45 | gnome | livingtm: if you follow the above and you still do not see a xdm/kdm login screen, then something else is going on which i can't help you with since i have to go home now. i'm riding home and it's now 2c outside. i really have to go home now before the temp drops further |
| 03:27.48 | gnome | so, bye |
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| 04:09.26 | gregday | is anoncvs down? |
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| 04:11.41 | tchino | hello |
| 04:12.19 | tchino | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.51 | gnome | tchino: proceed at your own risk |
| 04:16.18 | tchino | gnome: and when i go back, how can i create that? |
| 04:18.01 | gnome | tchino: go back to where and create what? |
| 04:19.40 | tchino | gnome: when i install kde 3.3.1, and it doesn't go right, can i come to the last settings |
| 04:21.05 | gnome | tchino: the last personal settings? |
| 04:21.45 | gnome | tchino: if so, then perhaps it's easier to just mv ~/.kderc ~/.kderc.doesntwork |
| 04:22.14 | tchino | no, the last kde-version |
| 04:22.20 | gnome | tchino: oh, downgrading |
| 04:22.57 | gnome | tchino: downgrading may or may not work cleanly, but certainly you can downgrade. |
| 04:23.32 | tim_ | gnome: hey I did whaqt you said, but i get the error "Manager unwilling Host unwilling" |
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| 04:24.02 | gnome | tim_: what a funny message. have you googled it? |
| 04:24.20 | tim_ | gnome: yeah i get a bunch of message boards with that problem posted and no solution. |
| 04:24.42 | gregday | where can i change the konqueror http timeout ? |
| 04:24.46 | gnome | tim_: have you set Xaccess appropriately? |
| 04:24.49 | tim_ | gnome: ive been through the config files several times and they all look ok to me (that doesnt mean they are) |
| 04:25.24 | tim_ | * CHOOSER BROADCAST |
| 04:25.26 | tim_ | yep |
| 04:26.38 | tim_ | gnome: is that what you had inmind? |
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| 04:27.21 | gnome | tim_: oh, you are using startx --query, right? |
| 04:27.41 | tim_ | well, Xwin -query debian |
| 04:27.46 | tim_ | (cygwin) |
| 04:27.48 | gnome | tim_: then, try removing 'chooser broadcast' |
| 04:27.56 | tim_ | jsut comment it out? |
| 04:28.07 | tim_ | or replace it with something else? |
| 04:28.57 | gnome | tim_: just: * |
| 04:29.01 | gnome | tim_: on a line of its own |
| 04:29.32 | tim_ | hmm, I just found both lines.. * first, then a few lines down, * CHOOSER BROADCAST |
| 04:30.05 | gnome | tim_: kdm or xdm? |
| 04:30.26 | tim_ | this is in XDM. KDM is running on the deb machine though |
| 04:30.46 | gnome | tim_: then what are you doing with xdm? |
| 04:31.12 | tim_ | i tried both, because editing the kdm configs alone didnt seem to do it.. and the tutorial i was looking at referred to both. |
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| 04:31.25 | suni | :) |
| 04:31.34 | gnome | tim_: you have to choose one. either xdm or kdm. can't use both |
| 04:31.48 | suni | kdm is nicer |
| 04:31.49 | gnome | tim_: so, which one will that be? |
| 04:31.54 | tim_ | ill comment them both out inthe xdm files, and which one do i want in the kdm files |
| 04:31.57 | tim_ | i want kdm |
| 04:32.11 | imaginal | a KSirc question, how to I automatically msg NickServ to authorize my name? |
| 04:32.14 | gnome | tim_: ok, then no more talking about xdm anymore, ok. don't touch xdm files anymore too, ok. |
| 04:32.21 | suni | imaginal: try kvirc |
| 04:32.25 | suni | :D |
| 04:32.42 | gnome | tim_: paste the output of: grep -v '^#' /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess in a pastebin |
| 04:32.43 | imaginal | suni: why is that? |
| 04:33.05 | gnome | tim_: also, so as not to confuse you any further, do a dpkg --purge xdm |
| 04:33.36 | tim_ | okay, /etc/kde2/kdm/Xaccess has only * CHOOSER BROADCAST |
| 04:33.36 | suni | imaginal: i couldn't figure out how to do it with ksirc, i use kvirc now |
| 04:33.55 | gnome | tim_: add: * on a line of its own |
| 04:34.01 | imaginal | suni: cool, thanks! |
| 04:34.05 | imaginal | suni: will try |
| 04:34.20 | tim_ | gnome: okay, they are both in place. |
| 04:34.26 | tim_ | try again? |
| 04:34.31 | gnome | tim_: restart kdm: /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 04:35.16 | suni | imaginal: its very nice, lots of features |
| 04:35.19 | tim_ | sweet |
| 04:35.29 | tim_ | gnome: i got the login screen... |
| 04:35.30 | tchino | gnome: i will restart kde. i hope it will be going right, do know a chat-programm with x-server |
| 04:35.31 | tim_ | very nice. |
| 04:35.45 | suni | tim_: whats the lag like with apps? |
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| 04:36.04 | gnome | tim_: great! |
| 04:36.15 | tchino | gnome: do you know a chat-programm without x-server |
| 04:36.16 | tim_ | gnome: the tutorial i was reading on the cygwin site told me to comment one of those lines out, and leave the other in place... maybe i F'd it up (thats most likely it) |
| 04:36.17 | gnome | suni: shouldn't be noticable |
| 04:36.33 | suni | hmm |
| 04:36.39 | gnome | tchino: bitchx, irssi are popular choices |
| 04:36.51 | suni | i might have to put a user back on windows :? |
| 04:36.52 | tim_ | suni: wihtout KDM it screamed across a WiFi connection.. VERY impressive. |
| 04:37.22 | suni | does kdm slow it down? |
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| 04:37.40 | tim_ | suni: loggin in... hangon :-) |
| 04:37.45 | gnome | tim_: what's the bandwidth? |
| 04:37.56 | tchino | gnome: ok i come back, one question, it will be installed less packages |
| 04:37.59 | tim_ | suni: the deb machine isnt that fast anyhow.. its an old K6 |
| 04:38.10 | gnome | tchino: what do you mean? |
| 04:38.13 | suni | ic |
| 04:38.23 | tim_ | WOW its much faster than i thought it would be. |
| 04:38.32 | tim_ | gnome: 802.11b Wifi |
| 04:38.36 | suni | i need to figure out how to get acrobat working on a linux box. |
| 04:38.37 | tchino | i have done: apt-get -t unstable install kde |
| 04:38.48 | grepper | K6-2 is cutting edge |
| 04:39.08 | suni | :I |
| 04:39.18 | gnome | tim_: sorry, not the potential bandwidth, but the current bandwidth |
| 04:39.19 | tim_ | grepper: you bet |
| 04:39.21 | tchino | gnome: i have done: apt-get -t unstable install kde |
| 04:39.27 | grepper | mine's brand new k6-2 500 |
| 04:39.34 | tim_ | gnome: how can i tell that? |
| 04:39.38 | suni | i'll personally pay someone $200 to get a pdf reader to support forms ;) |
| 04:39.45 | gnome | tchino: and why is it installing less packages? |
| 04:39.48 | grepper | (ok, I got it off ebay for $9.00) :P |
| 04:40.27 | gnome | tim_: transfer file using, say, ftp |
| 04:40.45 | tim_ | gnome: between the deb and win32 box? |
| 04:40.49 | tchino | gnome: it installed the following packages: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdewebdev kfilereplace kimagemapeditor klinkstatus kommander kxsldbg libarts1 |
| 04:40.49 | tchino | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.04 | gnome | tim_: preferably something around 5MB |
| 04:41.11 | tchino | gnome: and kommander-dev kdewebdev-doc-html akode perl-doc libterm-readline-perl-perl gubed |
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| 04:41.29 | gnome | tchino: i don't understand why you say 'it will be installed less packages' |
| 04:42.11 | tchino | gnome: because, when i have installed a newer version of kde earlier, it will be installing more packages |
| 04:42.25 | tchino | gnome: ok, i will testing |
| 04:42.37 | gnome | tchino: sorry, i really am having a hard time understanding you |
| 04:43.03 | tim_ | gnome: arg, i never setup the ftp server. i gotta head to bed.. but imglad i got this working... thank you very much for your patience |
| 04:43.18 | gnome | tim_: i was in a good mood :) |
| 04:43.30 | tim_ | gnome: Stay that way :-) |
| 04:43.33 | suni | especially with the combination of the words newer+earlier |
| 04:43.34 | tim_ | bye |
| 04:43.36 | suni | =) |
| 04:43.39 | tchino | gnome: sorry, i come from germany, i hope, you can understand |
| 04:44.42 | gnome | tchino: have you tried #debian? perhaps someone from germany is there? |
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| 04:51.37 | imaginal | suni: I like KVirc... but I still haven't figured out how to auto msg NickServ... help? |
| 04:52.39 | suni | Configure Servers/Advanced/On Login |
| 04:53.30 | suni | without the / |
| 04:55.20 | imaginal | suni: what version are you using? Those options aren't there... :-/ |
| 04:55.35 | suni | 3.0.1 |
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| 04:56.16 | tchino | gnome: hello?! |
| 04:56.33 | imaginal | suni: yeah... I thought I was a little dated... 2.1.3. |
| 04:57.05 | tchino | gnome: it only starts kde3.2, i update kdebase now, i hope, then it will be start kde3.3.1 |
| 04:57.53 | suni | imaginal: ooh thats the real ugly one |
| 04:58.10 | suni | imaginal: what distro? |
| 04:58.14 | suni | debian? |
| 04:59.46 | gnome | tchino: have you go to #debian-kde ? |
| 05:00.00 | imaginal | suni: yep |
| 05:00.15 | imaginal | suni: sarge... |
| 05:00.17 | suni | what a guess |
| 05:00.25 | suni | http://www.kvirc.net/?id=releases&platform=unix&version=3.0.1&group=debian |
| 05:00.40 | suni | only deb would have something that dated =) |
| 05:01.10 | imaginal | lol... I'm slowly learning that... woody irritated me WAY too much |
| 05:01.10 | gnome | tchino: because if apt-get install -t unstable kde doesn't upgrade the whole kde, there is something broken. i use debian, but still uses 3.2.3, so i don't know what problems in upgrading to 3.3 |
| 05:06.23 | suni | lipstick is buggy |
| 05:06.32 | suni | lipstik |
| 05:06.39 | Renze | lipstik is solid as a rock here |
| 05:07.19 | suni | konq would open then crash instantly |
| 05:07.25 | gregday | lipstik works perfectly for me |
| 05:07.29 | suni | but only once. |
| 05:07.41 | suni | then konq would open fine |
| 05:07.54 | gregday | i love it. and i dont think it's too different from plastik, that if they switch to lipstick as default in kde 3.4 it would be alright |
| 05:08.07 | suni | yes its nice |
| 05:08.41 | suni | could be the icon set? |
| 05:08.49 | suni | Nuvola |
| 05:08.54 | gregday | i had problems when using lipstik prebuilt binaries |
| 05:09.00 | gregday | but once i compiled it myself it works fine |
| 05:09.14 | suni | what version of lippy? :P |
| 05:09.34 | gregday | 1.0beta2 i think |
| 05:09.41 | gregday | yeah |
| 05:09.49 | suni | mine too |
| 05:09.50 | gregday | on kde-3.3.2 with the kde-improved patches |
| 05:10.06 | suni | i only got 3.3.1 |
| 05:10.14 | suni | whats kde-improved patches? |
| 05:10.16 | gregday | lipstik is just perfect. it's my favorite style ever, on any platform or toolkit |
| 05:10.25 | gregday | suni changes the selection style and rubberbanding |
| 05:10.31 | gregday | search kdelook.org |
| 05:10.35 | gregday | they are pretty highly rated |
| 05:10.41 | suni | unofficial? |
| 05:10.52 | gregday | some are already in HEAD, but some of the Qt changes need to be reviewed by TT |
| 05:10.57 | jcook_ | oh look ... its on the front page or t.k.o |
| 05:11.06 | jcook_ | http://themes.kde.org/content/show.php?content=18223 |
| 05:12.10 | gregday | ah lipstik 1.0 final is out |
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| 05:13.59 | suni | oh cool lets d/l :P |
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| 05:19.00 | suni | what icon sets do some of youse use? |
| 05:19.18 | gregday | the Mac OS X Aqua icon set that i created |
| 05:19.29 | gregday | that got pulled from kdelook for copyright infringement :) |
| 05:19.35 | suni | haha |
| 05:19.54 | gregday | or crystalsvg is fine too |
| 05:20.09 | suni | nuvola has some nice moments |
| 05:22.16 | suni | yes lipstik is nice ;) |
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| 05:23.18 | suni | nice an fast |
| 05:23.35 | imaginal | suni: wow... 3 is a lot nicer... but the on connect still isn't working... do you just type in /msg NickServ etc...? |
| 05:23.48 | suni | nah leave out the / |
| 05:23.59 | imaginal | ah... brb |
| 05:24.04 | suni | tooltips! |
| 05:24.09 | suni | tells ya |
| 05:24.16 | imaginal | thx ;) |
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| 05:24.28 | scarr2508 | i'm having a problem with audio. noatun will not play any audio, including wav. xmms plays everything. artsplay will play wav but not mp3 |
| 05:24.47 | suni | don't use, don't like noatun :( |
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| 05:25.42 | scarr2508 | ok well kaboodle then. i like how it is integrated with konqueror, yet it wont play audio |
| 05:26.04 | suni | artsd working? |
| 05:26.26 | scarr2508 | artsplay plays wav files but not mp3s |
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| 05:26.40 | suni | no idea sorry |
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| 05:27.03 | suni | scarr2508: did you compile this yourself? |
| 05:27.07 | scarr2508 | no |
| 05:27.16 | suni | strange |
| 05:27.23 | imaginal | suni: worked... thanks a ton! (missed the tooltip completely!) |
| 05:27.32 | scarr2508 | i thought noatun and kaboodle just use artsd, but they wont play wavs and artsplay will |
| 05:27.58 | suni | imaginal: i just started using kvirc today. |
| 05:28.17 | suni | the 2.x series was butt ugly.. |
| 05:28.51 | imaginal | 2 was horrible!!! it had all of the icons next to every entry... bleh! I was worried for a bit. |
| 05:29.03 | suni | scarr2508: thats just the thing..maybe kde-multimedia packages is screwy |
| 05:29.29 | scarr2508 | i got it from kde.org |
| 05:29.35 | scarr2508 | i'm using fedora core 2 |
| 05:29.47 | scarr2508 | i've had the problem for a long time though |
| 05:29.56 | suni | imaginal: its very configurable, i got rid of the timestamp, and increased the fontsize a bit. |
| 05:30.08 | scarr2508 | spanning several new versions of kde and fedora |
| 05:30.27 | suni | scarr2508: so if you goto sound server and click test sound what happens? |
| 05:31.01 | scarr2508 | it plays |
| 05:32.25 | suni | scarr2508: no idea sorry |
| 05:32.42 | suni | imaginal: looks nice with the lipstik theme too ;) |
| 05:32.44 | scarr2508 | it doesn't play anything when i test midi though |
| 05:33.13 | suni | mp3s aren't midi so sound still play them. |
| 05:33.17 | suni | should |
| 05:33.51 | yansanmo | Where is the wiki ;-( |
| 05:38.56 | gregday | anoncvs down? |
| 05:39.40 | suni | i think the girl at the bank likes me |
| 05:39.59 | gregday | tell her how much you enjoy lipstik |
| 05:40.15 | suni | yeh |
| 05:40.46 | suni | corrupt her into using evil linux |
| 05:41.29 | suni | reverse psychology, see if its badass..they like it. |
| 05:41.39 | gregday | ok then dont mention tux |
| 05:41.49 | gregday | tell her it's only used by hackers |
| 05:42.03 | suni | the tux is cute, but EVAL |
| 05:44.14 | gregday | the gnu might be more evil |
| 05:44.15 | gregday | it has horns |
| 05:44.21 | gregday | you could argue it's satanic |
| 05:45.58 | suni | one look through my CD collection and she'll think i'm satanic |
| 05:46.39 | jcook_ | will lipstik compile on 3.2 ? |
| 05:47.06 | suni | probably not |
| 05:47.38 | jcook_ | is that why i get ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 .... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 05:48.14 | suni | i see KDE > 3.2 NO KDE >= 3.2 |
| 05:48.34 | jcook_ | suni: yes ... i saw that too ... which is why i asked ... thanks [not] |
| 05:48.48 | jcook_ | lib ... who puts bin's in "lib" ... fark me |
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| 05:50.40 | df00zz | hey |
| 05:50.47 | df00zz | are there any kate code hinting plugins? |
| 05:54.22 | suni | jcook_: where are bins in lib? |
| 05:54.41 | suni | ohoh |
| 05:55.00 | suni | we have serious pdf problems in this office :/ |
| 05:55.26 | jcook_ | suni: the configure script seems to think /lib is a good place to look for 'cpp' |
| 05:56.00 | suni | jcook_: coz thats where it is. |
| 05:56.11 | jcook_ | yeah ... my bad ... just saw that |
| 05:56.27 | suni | whats adobe got against linux? |
| 05:56.40 | jcook_ | suni: money ? |
| 05:57.09 | suni | i don't wanna have to put a user back on bloody windows all because of pdfs. |
| 05:57.31 | suni | some things only xpdf can read..how far behind xpdf is kpdf? |
| 05:57.56 | jcook_ | well .. open office couldn't open a doc file for me today |
| 05:58.14 | suni | its an eternal struggle :( |
| 05:58.18 | jcook_ | but you make it sound like your supprised |
| 05:58.57 | suni | yes i was deluded, i thought acroread was good software ;) |
| 05:59.13 | jcook_ | hehe |
| 05:59.13 | df00zz | Kate XML Completion Plugin, where can I get that? It's in the kde-addons package |
| 05:59.15 | df00zz | can i build only it |
| 05:59.40 | suni | wow you answered your own question. |
| 06:00.09 | df00zz | Huh o.0 |
| 06:00.43 | suni | theres already 2 xml extensions in kate, hilighting extensions tho. |
| 06:01.19 | df00zz | Im looking for the XML completion plugin |
| 06:01.38 | df00zz | oh wait |
| 06:01.39 | df00zz | no im not. |
| 06:01.43 | df00zz | i want C/C++ completion :( |
| 06:01.54 | suniAWAY | duno sorry |
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| 06:14.09 | df00zz | Hey, is it possible to build kdeaddons w/o konq plugins? |
| 06:17.58 | gregday | that cervisia view is irritating eh? :) |
| 06:20.41 | suniAWAY | cervisia? |
| 06:22.20 | df00zz | Anyone know of any KDE C/C++ code completion plugins |
| 06:22.27 | df00zz | Err, kate |
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| 07:09.45 | imaginal | btw, thanks again suni! I like this one... (almost too many options...) |
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| 07:13.00 | sonoud | hi, i downloaded icons files from kde-look.org. how to install? i tried "install new Theme" under kcontrol icons, and chose index.theme. but it doesn't work. gave me error. |
| 07:13.33 | Renze | sonoud: you select the package, and it extracts it in the right place for you |
| 07:14.38 | sonoud | Renze, can you explain it more clearly? i download file.tar.gz, then i did tar -xzvf file.tar.gz. what do you mean? |
| 07:15.06 | Renze | don't extract the tar.gz... just select it in the Icons control center page |
| 07:15.10 | Renze | as the new theme to add |
| 07:15.54 | sonoud | Renze, let me try it now. thanks a lot. |
| 07:17.27 | sonoud | Renze, it works. thanks a lot. :) |
| 07:17.58 | Renze | no problem |
| 07:18.17 | sonoud | hi, can I ask a easy httpd question here? that is not related to kde. |
| 07:18.47 | Renze | it's been a while since I had a webserver installed... but you can try |
| 07:20.15 | sonoud | Renze, thanks a lot. just really easy. Can I put image files under cgi-bin? I did that, but it didn't work. i don't know why. I can put anything under cgi-bin in my university server. but i can't do it in my apache httpd. i checked all permission is right. but the image is not shown on web bowser. |
| 07:22.42 | Renze | sorry, can't help with that one... I tended to keep images separate |
| 07:23.17 | Renze | and I also used PHP more than cgi-bin :) |
| 07:24.10 | sonoud | Renze, i run fedora. and installed a rpm package for httpd. i have four directories under /var/www/ they are cgi-bin, error, icons, html. is that normal way what apache does? |
| 07:24.37 | sonoud | Renze, do you mean I should put all images under html/ but not cgi-bin// |
| 07:24.40 | sonoud | ? |
| 07:28.49 | Renze | sonoud: I put my images in an images folder where my html went, which tended to be ~/public_html for each user |
| 07:31.19 | sonoud | Renze, can you tell me a good tutorial webpage for webserver? I don't have public_html/ direcotry. how to configure those things? btw, do you know what cgiwrap is/ |
| 07:31.48 | Renze | sonoud: sorry, I just followed the apache documentation :) |
| 07:32.00 | Renze | and no, I don't know what cgiwrap is |
| 07:32.09 | sonoud | Renze, cool, thanks a lot for your help. :) |
| 07:32.26 | Renze | no problem :) |
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| 07:38.31 | bietchX | i cant sleep |
| 07:38.34 | bietchX | :( |
| 07:38.47 | Renze | you're too stressed... try to relax |
| 07:39.49 | bietchX | catch ya later |
| 07:39.51 | bietchX | bye! |
| 07:39.51 | bietchX | -x- |
| 07:39.55 | Renze | sleep well |
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| 07:44.40 | grover_ | hello |
| 07:45.57 | grover_ | is there anyway for me to tell konqueror to keep the view setting set in the detailed view? |
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| 07:48.04 | Renze | grover_: save view profile |
| 07:48.14 | Renze | settings menu |
| 07:50.45 | grover_ | thank you so very very much :) |
| 07:51.17 | Renze | no problem |
| 07:52.42 | grover_ | ahh must reboot.. fresh install.. ahhhh... thanks again |
| 07:53.14 | Renze | reboot? install? oh, two things I don't do often :) |
| 07:54.28 | grover_ | haha well i im allways playing with something new i guess |