| 00:02.42 | df00zz | StephenR: is it possible my linker is broken |
| 00:02.49 | df00zz | fake.c: #include <gl/gl.h> int main() {return 0;} |
| 00:02.57 | df00zz | gcc fake.c -o fake -lGL |
| 00:03.09 | df00zz | usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.2/../../../libGL.so: undefined reference to `_nv001172gl' etc etc |
| 00:04.16 | StevenR | df00zz: i dont know, i dont understand enough about linking and stuff |
| 00:04.23 | df00zz | Hrm. :\ |
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| 00:06.09 | aseigo | df00zz: libGL has dependencies as well. |
| 00:06.20 | aseigo | df00zz: in particular here the nvidia libs, it seems |
| 00:06.39 | aseigo | df00zz: do a `ldd /path/to/libGL.so` |
| 00:07.03 | aseigo | df00zz: it should tell you which libs it relies on... the system ones you can ignore (like glibc ;) |
| 00:07.38 | df00zz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:14.17 | DaBlade | Hi |
| 00:14.39 | DaBlade | I have a odd problem here.. I can't get _any_ screensavers to work on my profile |
| 00:14.56 | DaBlade | yet on root or other profiles, they work. |
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| 00:16.05 | DaBlade | can anyone help me out a bit? |
| 00:17.58 | DaBlade | thanks.. .P |
| 00:18.01 | DaBlade | *;P |
| 00:18.05 | DaBlade | **:P |
| 00:18.08 | DaBlade | lol |
| 00:20.48 | df00zz | Ok i got it |
| 00:21.25 | df00zz | i had bad nvidia libs in /usr/lib |
| 00:21.37 | rei_0000 | does anyone know how to call the Add Printer wizard from command line? I'm not talking about kcmshell printmgr or kprinter |
| 00:23.41 | Renze | rei_0000: kaddprinterwizard? |
| 00:24.50 | rei_0000 | is it that simple that I over looked it....???? I've done that before so it won't be the first time :P |
| 00:25.45 | rei_0000 | Doh! |
| 00:26.09 | Renze | just think of all the time you wasted waiting for an answer :) |
| 00:26.16 | rei_0000 | yes.... |
| 00:26.46 | rei_0000 | it held me up from finishing the add printers page in Ark's new first boot wizard |
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| 00:26.54 | rei_0000 | thanks for the info |
| 00:27.24 | rei_0000 | writing it all in PerlQt, so I have to call the KDE binaries directly. |
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| 00:39.10 | slayerbob | this is weird - i cannot move any contacts into the "Business" group in kopete... |
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| 01:40.09 | mobtekl | bloody thunderstorms :P |
| 01:40.12 | dipesh | hi-gh. |
| 01:40.29 | grepper | mobtekl: you moved to Poland ? |
| 01:40.44 | mobtek | heheh grepper |
| 01:40.53 | mobtek | still in au L:O |
| 01:41.34 | thiago | :) |
| 01:41.57 | grepper | ah, he changed his name to attract a Polish girl then |
| 01:42.27 | bietch[x] | she..will beloved |
| 01:42.30 | bietch[x] | she will..beloveddd |
| 01:42.33 | bietch[x] | my god..i like this song |
| 01:42.35 | bietch[x] | haha :p |
| 01:43.06 | grepper | the tune sounds familiar, never heard of the lyrics before though |
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| 01:43.52 | bietch[x] | grepper - long time no see you..how r u ? |
| 01:44.00 | bietch[x] | maroon5 - she will be loved |
| 01:44.11 | bietch[x] | my x-bf dedicated that songs for me |
| 01:44.17 | bietch[x] | grrr :/ |
| 01:45.03 | grepper | he wrote it ? |
| 01:45.18 | bietch[x] | no..dedicated via radio for me |
| 01:45.35 | grepper | him, sounds like a copyright infringment |
| 01:45.37 | bietch[x] | do u like that songs grepper ? |
| 01:45.51 | grepper | that's is touching to think he would violate a copyright just for you |
| 01:45.52 | bietch[x] | that songs famous here |
| 01:46.01 | grepper | never heard of it, sorry |
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| 01:46.13 | bietch[x] | why u dont just download it ? |
| 01:46.18 | dipesh | radio copy is a copyright prob? |
| 01:46.19 | bietch[x] | i dedicated it for u then ;) |
| 01:46.25 | bietch[x] | radio copy ? |
| 01:46.26 | Poprocks | in the 3.4 feature plan: ``As appropriate, supply "logout" and "poweroff" options at time user exits KDE'' -- what does that mean? |
| 01:46.27 | grepper | :) |
| 01:46.53 | bietch[x] | grepper : if u dont find that song..i can give it for ya ;)) |
| 01:47.00 | grepper | Poprocks: perhaps even if not using kdm, as it makes no sense otherwise |
| 01:47.07 | grepper | ok |
| 01:47.25 | Poprocks | ah ok. |
| 01:47.30 | Poprocks | yeah that's probably right |
| 01:47.53 | Poprocks | funny because GNOME doesn't ever want users to be able to poweroff or reboot |
| 01:48.36 | thiago | Poprocks: no idea, since there already is logout and poweroff |
| 01:48.44 | thiago | there has been for quite a number of versions |
| 01:48.52 | thiago | what program is that under? |
| 01:49.39 | Poprocks | but only when kdm is running, thiago |
| 01:49.56 | Poprocks | which is why grepper said it would make no sense otherwise... so I think he's right |
| 01:51.28 | bietch[x] | does i need download all the iso images for the full installion of fedora core 3 ? |
| 01:51.36 | bietch[x] | who`s here using fc3 ? |
| 01:51.52 | Poprocks | I hate Fedora and Mandrake |
| 01:52.07 | bietch[x] | yps sorry |
| 01:52.08 | Poprocks | to answer your question, probably |
| 01:52.16 | bietch[x] | but they are linux`s family |
| 01:52.28 | Poprocks | well that's debatable ;-) |
| 01:52.38 | Poprocks | I've only ever done a floppy/network install of FC |
| 01:52.57 | bietch[x] | emm |
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| 01:54.46 | rei_0000 | hi Poprocks |
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| 01:57.51 | Poprocks | hi rei_0000 |
| 01:57.58 | Poprocks | how are you? |
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| 02:01.22 | patrix | StevenR: oooooh yeah! kdm works in your packages, and everything's faster :D |
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| 02:03.23 | rei_0000 | Poprocks: good. I'm working on the new Ark First-boot Tasks Wizard. |
| 02:03.42 | StevenR | patrix: upload complete..can u md5sum them? |
| 02:04.13 | patrix | if you upload the md5sums yes |
| 02:04.18 | patrix | aww no koffice :/ |
| 02:04.20 | StevenR | patrix: i did |
| 02:04.30 | StevenR | patrix: i have koffice i686 too |
| 02:04.49 | patrix | cool, upload that too :) |
| 02:05.11 | StevenR | patrix: ftp://termserver.niesc.org/pub/sandman1/StevenR-Packs |
| 02:05.39 | StevenR | patrix: but there was no space for kde3.3.2 there. |
| 02:05.53 | patrix | sweet you have k3b too |
| 02:05.58 | StevenR | patrix: md5sums check out ok? |
| 02:06.50 | StevenR | patrix: just do md5sum --check MD5SUMS in the dir with the packages |
| 02:07.10 | StevenR | it should spit out a list of ok's |
| 02:07.24 | patrix | --check is an invalid option |
| 02:07.43 | StevenR | -c |
| 02:07.49 | patrix | yeah that's what the help told me ;) |
| 02:08.01 | StevenR | my version does both -c and --check |
| 02:08.33 | patrix | no output, I assume that means everything checked out :) |
| 02:08.59 | StevenR | patrix: did it exit cleanly? |
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| 02:09.54 | patrix | looks like it |
| 02:10.02 | patrix | installed cleanly too :P |
| 02:10.07 | StevenR | cool |
| 02:10.11 | patrix | hell cool :) |
| 02:10.19 | StevenR | can you give me the new address for them? |
| 02:11.13 | StevenR | it's ok.. found it |
| 02:11.16 | patrix | :D |
| 02:11.23 | StevenR | pub/slackware/kde/3.3.2 |
| 02:11.53 | patrix | yep |
| 02:11.57 | patrix | and /pub/slackware/kde/apps |
| 02:12.11 | StevenR | patrix: thanks again :) i'm away to bed now |
| 02:12.39 | patrix | night |
| 02:12.49 | patrix | hm I still can't burn audio CDs wiht k3b |
| 02:12.49 | patrix | wtf |
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| 02:21.21 | mobtek | hehe thiago |
| 02:29.36 | mobtek | hey guys is there a professional .doc to pdf creation tool under kde and linux? |
| 02:31.23 | aseigo | mobtek: open it in KWord or open office and print to pdf |
| 02:32.23 | mobtek | aseigo: ahh ok ta |
| 02:32.26 | mobtek | lemme try |
| 02:38.27 | mobtek | hmm nope totally craps out on the .doc's I unfortuneately have to use :) |
| 02:42.31 | ironfroggy | anyone know how i can pipe all artsd audio into a structure i made? |
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| 02:44.47 | x3r0 | who uses apollon here |
| 02:48.14 | x3r0 | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x087cc8f0 *** |
| 02:48.17 | x3r0 | what does that mean |
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| 02:48.29 | thiago | it means that glibc detected a double free() |
| 02:48.37 | thiago | i.e., program bug |
| 02:50.54 | x3r0 | hmm |
| 02:50.56 | x3r0 | its apollon |
| 02:51.07 | thiago | program bug |
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| 02:56.53 | daum | anyone know why when i go to run burn in k3b it says it cannot unlock the drife? |
| 02:56.56 | daum | i did the setup |
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| 03:01.41 | daum_ | anyone here know why when i go to use k3b it says it cannot open the drive? |
| 03:02.44 | rei_0000 | daum_: likely you do not have permissions to the burner's devnode |
| 03:02.52 | daum_ | hm how do if ix that? i did the k3b setup |
| 03:02.59 | daum_ | and i can burn disks using dvdstyler... |
| 03:03.40 | daum_ | is there a manual command to make me have permission? |
| 03:03.51 | rei_0000 | as an experiment to test that theory, does it work ok as the root user? |
| 03:04.01 | daum_ | uh not sure lemme try |
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| 03:05.05 | daum_ | lol yeah it works as root |
| 03:05.32 | daum_ | so i guess i don't have access.yet when i run the k3bsetup it says all permissions are/have been updated |
| 03:06.04 | Lord-Phoenix | is there a set of roadmaps for kde components somewhere? |
| 03:06.35 | Lord-Phoenix | or at least somewhere i can check on upcoming features, specifically for kget/kdenetwork? |
| 03:06.50 | thiago | try the KDE 3.4 feature list. |
| 03:06.58 | thiago | http://developer.kde.org/ |
| 03:07.12 | daum_ | rei_0000, any ideas? |
| 03:07.34 | rei_0000 | daum_: try running the config tool as root, then try to burn under your account again. |
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| 03:09.02 | daum_ | rei_0000, nope, i even changed the permissions as just users..and still no luck |
| 03:09.47 | rei_0000 | hmmm |
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| 03:10.38 | sycofly | hi my fellow KDEers |
| 03:10.59 | sycofly | big shout to Renze |
| 03:11.48 | daum_ | when i do modify the things it jusy stes them as root.root |
| 03:12.05 | rei_0000 | daum_: the perms for user use should be -rw-rw---- root,users /dev/[YOUR BURNER HERE] |
| 03:12.26 | rei_0000 | does your distro use devnodes or udev? |
| 03:12.41 | daum_ | uh devnodes i believe |
| 03:12.43 | daum_ | i use gento |
| 03:12.44 | daum_ | o |
| 03:12.51 | rei_0000 | k |
| 03:13.01 | daum_ | how do check permissions again |
| 03:13.04 | daum_ | sorry lol |
| 03:13.06 | daum_ | i forget the command |
| 03:13.17 | rei_0000 | is the burner a link or a actual node? |
| 03:13.19 | rei_0000 | ls -l |
| 03:13.31 | rei_0000 | ls -l [filename] |
| 03:13.50 | rei_0000 | so in my case: ls -l /dev/hdc |
| 03:13.51 | daum_ | brw-rw-rw- 1 daum users 3, 0 Dec 31 1969 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd |
| 03:14.24 | daum_ | ash-2.05b$ ls -l /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 |
| 03:14.24 | daum_ | lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 33 Dec 31 1969 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 -> ../ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd |
| 03:14.24 | daum_ | bash-2.05b$ |
| 03:14.51 | rei_0000 | that's the drive that k3b is configured to use? |
| 03:14.55 | daum_ | yup |
| 03:14.58 | rei_0000 | k |
| 03:15.05 | daum_ | wrong permissions? |
| 03:15.31 | rei_0000 | looks fine except your link is kinda funk |
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| 03:15.39 | rei_0000 | s/funk/funky |
| 03:15.58 | rei_0000 | most links here are lrwxrwxrwx |
| 03:16.06 | daum_ | hm ok lemme make it that way |
| 03:16.15 | daum_ | chmod a+rw /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 |
| 03:16.15 | daum_ | right? |
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| 03:17.26 | daum | ok |
| 03:17.28 | daum | sorry |
| 03:17.33 | daum | chmod a+rw the link will fix it? |
| 03:17.34 | rei_0000 | np |
| 03:17.46 | rei_0000 | I dunno |
| 03:17.51 | daum | well lets see heh |
| 03:18.49 | rei_0000 | it may.... but I'm looking at your setup and it appears you're either using devfs or udev, since that's a funky device layout |
| 03:18.50 | daum | rei_0000, can i get you to join #flood really quick? |
| 03:18.56 | rei_0000 | sure |
| 03:18.59 | daum | kk posting |
| 03:19.54 | daum | hm |
| 03:19.57 | daum | that say anythign? |
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| 03:21.11 | rei_0000 | daum: the problem seems to be your kernel's interfaces to the cdrecord app |
| 03:21.29 | daum | ah lemme re emerge it sine i switched my type of 2.6.9 kernel |
| 03:22.27 | rei_0000 | yeah, that'd do it. |
| 03:22.38 | daum | kk reemerge int it |
| 03:23.55 | daum | i don't see how things can be updated when i am using them lol |
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| 03:25.03 | x3r0 | how do i see what version of kde media i have installed |
| 03:26.38 | grepper | x3r0: <app> --version |
| 03:27.48 | x3r0 | ok |
| 03:27.53 | x3r0 | so kde multimedia |
| 03:28.05 | x3r0 | there is no commadn for that |
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| 03:33.27 | daum | blah whatever i'll just burn as root |
| 03:33.47 | daum | my other apps work with the burner |
| 03:33.48 | daum | lol |
| 03:34.56 | D1 | can anyone tell me how to remedy this error? I'm running freebsd 5.3-release with kde 3.3.1. konqueror: ERROR: Error in BrowserExtension::actionSlotMap(), unknown action : searchProvider |
| 03:35.06 | D1 | it really lags as I try to bring up a webpage. |
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| 03:41.24 | aseigo | D1: the error isn't related to the problem. the lag, does it happen before the page loads at all, or during page loading? |
| 03:42.03 | D1 | the lag or delay rather happens before the page loads. |
| 03:42.24 | D1 | page loading is instantaneous, but it takes a few minutes for it to get to that stage. |
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| 03:45.21 | aseigo | D1: it's likely a DNS/lookup issue then |
| 03:45.31 | aseigo | D1: is your localhost listed in /etc/hosts? |
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| 03:45.49 | Callipygous | has 3.3.2 fixed the problem with windows 95 emulation? |
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| 03:46.22 | aseigo | Callipygous: win 95 emu? |
| 03:47.07 | D1 | these are my entries |
| 03:47.13 | D1 | 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.indignation.org |
| 03:47.13 | D1 | 192.168.0.99 pompey pompey.indignation.org |
| 03:47.16 | Callipygous | yes, win95 emu |
| 03:47.26 | Callipygous | when I hit my Command button (or Super key) whatever you want to call it |
| 03:47.30 | Callipygous | and the K menu pops up |
| 03:47.36 | Callipygous | as if I was using windows 95 |
| 03:47.56 | elkrammer | Callipygous: that's not windows 96 emulation, is just a key bind ;-) |
| 03:48.03 | elkrammer | windows 95, sorry |
| 03:48.07 | Callipygous | how do I stop it from happening? |
| 03:48.13 | Callipygous | cus its annoying as fark |
| 03:48.19 | cray2 | how do emulate dos? i wanna play a dosgame |
| 03:48.25 | Callipygous | dosemu |
| 03:48.28 | Callipygous | or perhaps wine |
| 03:48.35 | Callipygous | wine is more for windows |
| 03:48.39 | cray2 | does it emu well? this is a hi-faluntant dosgame |
| 03:48.42 | sycofly | has anyone hooked up a fax machine to Kfax |
| 03:48.45 | cray2 | 'zone raiders' infact |
| 03:49.08 | Callipygous | no idea, never used it |
| 03:49.22 | aseigo | Callipygous: no, that's fixed in 3.4 |
| 03:49.35 | Callipygous | bah, 3.4???? |
| 03:49.38 | Callipygous | I have to wait for 3.4? |
| 03:49.46 | rei_0000 | yes, that was fixed in HEAD from the info on b.k.o |
| 03:50.29 | cray2 | is there any way to export a pdf to plaintext in kde? |
| 03:51.13 | Callipygous | i thought there was a way to fix it |
| 03:51.19 | Callipygous | but instead i have to wait for 3.4 :( |
| 03:52.31 | rei_0000 | Callipygous: it was unfortunately hard coded into the kmenu code iirc. aseigo, you maintain kicker so you'd have a better line of info on this..... |
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| 03:52.41 | vaxen_ | lo |
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| 03:53.00 | aseigo | rei_0000: yes, that's right. |
| 03:53.16 | aseigo | Callipygous: if you compile from source, it's easy enough to fix =) |
| 03:53.31 | aseigo | Callipygous: and you can always just remap your win key to something else in xmodmap |
| 03:53.38 | Callipygous | I don't get it, im sure I had that problem fixed... |
| 03:53.50 | Callipygous | its my Apple key |
| 03:53.51 | vaxen_ | I could get my taskbar to go transparent, but those active+inactive applications on the taskbar stays opaque. Can I make them transparent too? |
| 03:54.06 | aseigo | Callipygous: i just didn't have time leading up to 3.3.2 to backport the bugs that got fixed in HEAD |
| 03:54.23 | xomp | vaxen_: gtk apps? |
| 03:54.26 | aseigo | vaxen_: no. looks like it might be possible in 3.4 though |
| 03:54.40 | vaxen_ | nice |
| 03:55.56 | vaxen_ | I wish I can change the left side of the Kmenu that says " KDE 3.3" to something else |
| 03:56.10 | aseigo | you can, if you change the graphic |
| 03:56.31 | rei_0000 | aseigo: any way for gtk apps to have transparent system tray entries in the new kicker code? |
| 03:57.03 | xomp | I haven't looked yet, but does anyone know if kde 3.3.2 was made into slackware packages yet? I know StevenR had done them but had nowere to host them last I spoke with him |
| 03:57.04 | vaxen_ | aseigo: can't find any options in Control Centre to change that |
| 03:57.31 | aseigo | rei_0000: haven't tried gtk+ apps there in HEAD yet... |
| 03:57.51 | aseigo | vaxen_: it's not in the control center. you just have to put a replace graphic in the right location. |
| 03:57.54 | aseigo | graphic + tile |
| 03:58.22 | rei_0000 | I've been wanting that for a while since atm gaim and xchat stick out like sore thumbs on my beautiful KDE desktop. |
| 03:58.39 | Lord-Phoenix | anyone here familiar with the kdenetwork-kget sourcecode? |
| 03:58.49 | vaxen_ | rei_0000: yes, I find that annoying too |
| 03:59.06 | vaxen_ | rei_0000: I love Kopete though |
| 03:59.13 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: in what way? |
| 03:59.30 | rei_0000 | eh, no religous wars, but I'm no fan of kopete. |
| 04:00.05 | aseigo | rei_0000: when did you last try it? |
| 04:00.10 | vaxen_ | Kwifimanger won't start if I update my wireless-tools |
| 04:00.11 | rei_0000 | I'm the odd man out in the Ark Linux camp, since I maintain the Gtk stuff. |
| 04:00.20 | Lord-Phoenix | aseigo: i want to see if its possible to get kget to automatically dock currently downloading files |
| 04:00.41 | rei_0000 | aseigo: I'm building a konstruct build of a1 this weekend, so I'll test it to see. |
| 04:00.51 | aseigo | rei_0000: yeah, it's a lot nicer in 3.4 |
| 04:01.06 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: doc? |
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| 04:01.20 | rei_0000 | that's what I've been reading on core-devel |
| 04:01.26 | pjor | anyone know why kmix got the volume +/- keys on my keyboard, but it doesn't show up in the control center anywhere? |
| 04:01.29 | Lord-Phoenix | aseigo: sorry? |
| 04:01.57 | grepper | cray2: you tried ps2ascii ? |
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| 04:02.39 | Lord-Phoenix | aseigo: do you mean documentation in sourcecode? because there doesn't seem to be any |
| 04:02.47 | cray2 | it's not a postscript though |
| 04:02.48 | cray2 | it's a pdf |
| 04:02.53 | grepper | doesn't matter |
| 04:03.08 | grepper | ps2ascii file.pdf file.txt |
| 04:03.11 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: no no, i meant, "what do you mean by dock, exactly?" |
| 04:03.28 | aseigo | pjor: in khotkeys or the keybindings, most likely |
| 04:03.38 | vaxen_ | will kde3.3.2 bork if I enable composite on xorg6.8? |
| 04:04.10 | grepper | just temporarily |
| 04:04.40 | Lord-Phoenix | aseigo: oh, well if you open an idividual window for a download, you can dock it as an icon in the kde system tray |
| 04:04.40 | grepper | though last time I tried I had to switch to a VT to kill xcompmgr |
| 04:04.53 | Lord-Phoenix | aseigo: i'd like it to automatically do that |
| 04:05.20 | vaxen_ | grepper: doesnt sound good to me |
| 04:05.54 | grepper | vaxen_: it just a proof of concept atm as far as I'm concerned |
| 04:06.02 | grepper | not really usable for most people |
| 04:06.06 | aseigo | vaxen_: it really depends on your hardware and the moon's phase. it's very young software right now |
| 04:06.38 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: ah.. i see.. well, it's the uiserver that manages those windows AFAIK |
| 04:06.42 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: in kdelibs/kio/uiserver* |
| 04:06.49 | vaxen_ | can help but stare at those nice true transparency and shadows |
| 04:06.49 | aseigo | Lord-Phoenix: so perhaps take a look there |
| 04:07.12 | grepper | cray2: worked ok ? |
| 04:07.38 | Lord-Phoenix | AFAIK? |
| 04:08.47 | pjor | aseigo: thanks for the hint but as far as i can see there isn't even an option to bind something to volume +/- in either of those |
| 04:10.00 | Lord-Phoenix | where can i find out who maintains or is developing a particular kde component? |
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| 04:15.00 | xomp | ya'll can see me now cuz you don't see with your eyes... you percieve with your mind |
| 04:15.45 | xomp | nyquil is my frin |
| 04:17.10 | sarah03 | Mm. Evilness. |
| 04:17.22 | xomp | :D |
| 04:17.42 | xomp | old crow though :s |
| 04:19.20 | xomp | I have to take my womean to work in the moringn then wait for 3 hours for our bank to open to withdraw moneys |
| 04:19.32 | xomp | in the cold, on my day off :( |
| 04:23.14 | vaxen_ | does torsmo work in KDE? |
| 04:23.31 | sarah03 | Right. It sort of works... except the minor issue that the ksycoca database is in the same place between the 2 versions. |
| 04:27.05 | xomp | so linux was originally called xenix and written by microsoft for the governemtn? lol |
| 04:27.20 | Renze | um, no... |
| 04:27.45 | xomp | rofl Renze you have to read this |
| 04:27.52 | xomp | haha I'll put it on my site real quick |
| 04:28.29 | xomp | http://www.xomp.org/nice/iysach.html it's # 8 omg your soo gonna laugh |
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| 04:29.38 | Renze | um... ok... |
| 04:30.17 | Renze | the author needs help |
| 04:31.09 | sarah03 | Mm. Working evilness. |
| 04:31.16 | Dhraakellian | s/if anybody's/for anybody whose/ |
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| 04:32.18 | xomp | lol i know.. it's some crazy stuff |
| 04:32.30 | xomp | fool dunno how to spell linux |
| 04:32.57 | canllaith | :O |
| 04:32.58 | xomp | "BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system," lmao |
| 04:33.03 | canllaith | xomp: wtf? |
| 04:33.08 | canllaith | Where is this rubbish? |
| 04:33.13 | xomp | http://www.xomp.org/nice/iysach.html it's # 8 omg your soo gonna laugh |
| 04:34.36 | sarah03 | xomp: I've seen that. |
| 04:35.40 | sarah03 | Whose idea was it to change the default alt-tab interface from the windows-ish one to the vertically oriented one? I like. |
| 04:35.57 | xomp | that would be me |
| 04:36.10 | xomp | haha j/k, but if you want it to break look me up :p |
| 04:36.17 | Renze | what's that smell? oh, it's bullshit |
| 04:36.22 | sarah03 | lol |
| 04:36.52 | sarah03 | I've been breaking 3.3 on and off so far, but that's because I've been trying to run it and 3.2 simultaneously until I manage to finish building it. |
| 04:37.57 | xomp | you really ought not run Lunix sarah03, its an illegal hacker operation system created by the russians after the cold war |
| 04:38.11 | sarah03 | lol |
| 04:38.25 | xomp | man, still can't get over that.. it's to laugh |
| 04:42.20 | xomp | i'm so bored :( |
| 04:42.25 | canllaith | xomp: hahahahaha |
| 04:42.30 | canllaith | ok that is so a hoax |
| 04:42.35 | canllaith | but still it's a hysterically funny one |
| 04:42.36 | xomp | funny isn't it? lmao |
| 04:43.17 | xomp | hah |
| 04:43.27 | canllaith | and if I caught my teenage child reading 'Programming Perl' |
| 04:43.50 | canllaith | I would say 'Did you ask your father permission to read his books? He is very attached to that one, be careful with it' |
| 04:43.52 | xomp | it's an absurd as all hail |
| 04:43.58 | xomp | haha |
| 04:43.58 | canllaith | ;) |
| 04:44.13 | canllaith | looks like I have dated/married a long string of hackers ... oh dear. Bad me. |
| 04:44.41 | sarah03 | I've had my 11 year old brother borrow various books from me, including one on programming C++. |
| 04:44.59 | canllaith | :) |
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| 04:45.41 | xomp | still no kde 3.3.2 packages for slackware yet :( |
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| 04:47.00 | Frank-Drebin | Is there a way to get kscd to use digital extraction? |
| 04:48.15 | sarah03 | Mm. That's also nice... things sitting in my tray go back to the display they were on before they were sent to the tray, instead of back to the one my mouse is sitting on. |
| 04:49.24 | xomp | sarah03: stop teasing :p |
| 04:49.48 | sarah03 | xomp: This is 3.3.1 that I'm talking about. |
| 04:50.07 | xomp | doh |
| 04:50.57 | xomp | is 3.4 coming soon? |
| 04:51.07 | Renze | 3.4 is still months away |
| 04:51.35 | Renze | well, final anyway... you could always try the alpha release :) |
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| 04:54.46 | xomp | Oh ;) |
| 04:55.11 | sarah03 | Hm. Come to think of it... the only issue I've noticed so far (and I think it's a Qt issue, not a KDE issue) is that renders in Konqueror. |
| 04:55.31 | canllaith | xomp: yes there are dear |
| 04:55.38 | canllaith | I am running them now - want me to find you a mirror? |
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| 04:55.47 | xomp | canllaith: yes!! *loves yew!!* |
| 04:55.51 | canllaith | :D |
| 04:56.24 | swoon | I just installed kde on mandrake, what do I need to do get fonts to look good (not the font style) but quality... |
| 04:56.42 | xomp | canllaith: let me boot into slack real quick like before posting the link :D : D :D :D :D |
| 04:56.53 | canllaith | I am stuck on a 500MHz so I downloaded the packages rather than finish building :\ |
| 04:57.33 | sarah03 | canllaith: Don't feeel bad about that. I'm on a 1.2GHz box and it's still painful. |
| 04:58.41 | canllaith | The main problem with this is it's a laptop. If you push it too far it gets warm and unhappy :( |
| 04:58.50 | swoon | anyone? |
| 04:59.02 | sarah03 | *shrug* My laptop isn't worth pushing. |
| 04:59.11 | canllaith | swoon: um... enable antialiasing under Kcontrol->Appearance & Themes->Fonts |
| 04:59.29 | sarah03 | .. I was just about to say that. |
| 04:59.37 | swoon | canllaith: enabled, there must be a lib or something |
| 04:59.44 | canllaith | freetype/xft |
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| 04:59.59 | sarah03 | It also depends on your X server having the RENDER extension. |
| 05:00.00 | canllaith | mandrake has everything you need by default although... you may be using a sucky font. Got Bitstream Vera Sans? |
| 05:00.04 | xomp | I feel so ashamed |
| 05:00.10 | canllaith | xomp: what's wrong ? |
| 05:00.14 | xomp | using Lunix now :( |
| 05:00.16 | xomp | hehe |
| 05:00.19 | swoon | I installed kde from scratch so mandrake didnt install everytihng |
| 05:00.24 | sarah03 | No RENDER extension, no AA fonts. |
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| 05:00.47 | xomp | takes forever for me to boot however (still using the bare.i from the slack 10 disk) :( |
| 05:04.43 | xomp | canllaith, any luck on that mirror? |
| 05:04.48 | canllaith | xomp: ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.3.2/contrib/Slackware/10.0/ |
| 05:04.54 | canllaith | was getting 500k or so off that this morning |
| 05:04.55 | xomp | yay! |
| 05:04.56 | xomp | thanks :D |
| 05:07.30 | slayerbob | :o |
| 05:07.34 | slayerbob | you in here :P |
| 05:07.47 | canllaith | hey there :D |
| 05:07.51 | xomp | 491k is what i'm getting ;D |
| 05:07.52 | canllaith | oooh they fixed juk ... nice! |
| 05:08.07 | slayerbob | are my ims not working ? |
| 05:08.09 | slayerbob | :( |
| 05:08.34 | sarah03 | canllaith: What's wrong with JuK in 3.3.1? |
| 05:08.59 | canllaith | The slackware packages at least have a nasty flaw where random play likes to chew all mem, all swap then die. |
| 05:09.14 | sarah03 | Aah. |
| 05:09.16 | canllaith | When that amounts to 1GB memory and 1GB swap it is impressive to watch the system monitor applet while it happens |
| 05:09.31 | sarah03 | Maybe I'll keep running the one from 3.2.1 instead. |
| 05:10.03 | canllaith | The 3.3.2 one seems reasonably ok |
| 05:10.07 | xomp | thats what we get for choosing to run lunix i'm affraid |
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| 05:11.38 | xomp | this is so wierd.. this pc seems to "freeze" for about 5 seconds, unfreezes for .4 seconds then freezes again for another 5 seconds randomly |
| 05:11.49 | canllaith | how often? |
| 05:12.00 | xomp | and i mean completely freeze to the point were _nothing_ can be done hah |
| 05:12.24 | xomp | well, while I'm on it seems to be random, never really timed it myself |
| 05:12.28 | xomp | it's just real annoying |
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| 05:12.39 | lovelyx | Hi! |
| 05:13.01 | xomp | lovelyx, Hi! :) |
| 05:13.37 | xomp | oh canllaith figured out what was wrong that day I couldn't build amaroK from source :) |
| 05:13.43 | slayerbob | where does the config file for the 2.6.7 kernel live ? |
| 05:13.47 | lovelyx | xopm: I'm new with linux. Can KDE be updated or I have to deinstall it and then install it again? |
| 05:13.47 | canllaith | xomp: Were you the wrong user by any chance? |
| 05:13.52 | xomp | i needed taglib and gstreamer haha |
| 05:13.56 | canllaith | slayerbob: erm ? On which machine dear? |
| 05:14.02 | slayerbob | latitude |
| 05:14.12 | xomp | lovelyx, what distro you use? |
| 05:14.12 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.20 | canllaith | ah yes, or there is a copy on dell as well I can email you |
| 05:14.32 | lovelyx | xomp: suse 9.1 personal |
| 05:14.50 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: you can upgrade it in place |
| 05:14.58 | slayerbob | is not there :( |
| 05:14.59 | xomp | lovelyx, sorry, don't know anything but slackware :( *and not a whole lot at that* but I'm sure you can just upgrade the packages |
| 05:15.08 | slayerbob | could you scp it into my directory on gateway ? :D |
| 05:15.09 | canllaith | slayerbob: erm. Well I have a copy I will email you 2 secs |
| 05:15.13 | canllaith | ok yeah I can do that too |
| 05:15.16 | slayerbob | ::D |
| 05:15.20 | lovelyx | xomp:thanks :) |
| 05:15.38 | lovelyx | aseigo: do you have suse? |
| 05:15.41 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: have you downloaded the packages? |
| 05:15.43 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: yes |
| 05:15.53 | canllaith | erm |
| 05:16.00 | canllaith | have you gone and changed your password ? |
| 05:16.01 | xomp | ok guys, brb time for kde upgrade ;) |
| 05:16.05 | slayerbob | me ? |
| 05:16.07 | aseigo_h | xomp: enjoy |
| 05:16.08 | slayerbob | no it is the same |
| 05:16.09 | xomp | thanks canllaith for the mirror as always |
| 05:16.13 | slayerbob | t it ends with... |
| 05:16.14 | canllaith | sod. Ok I scp it to myself then |
| 05:16.17 | canllaith | :| |
| 05:16.18 | slayerbob | always has done on gateway... |
| 05:16.23 | canllaith | i thought it was a |
| 05:16.23 | canllaith | erm ok |
| 05:16.24 | canllaith | lol |
| 05:16.32 | canllaith | that shows you how many times i have logged in as you on gateway heh |
| 05:16.33 | lovelyx | aseigo: no, I just run YOU, but there is no KDE update |
| 05:16.43 | canllaith | done. ~/config |
| 05:16.59 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: yeah, you usually need to do it "by hand"... they only put out security fixes, etc via YOU usually |
| 05:17.15 | slayerbob | coolies ty canllaith you is the best and absolutely wonderful :P |
| 05:17.54 | lovelyx | saseigo: OK im on kde3.2.1, so I have to download the enitre kde 3.3.1? |
| 05:18.24 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: 3.3.2 =) |
| 05:18.34 | lovelyx | oops, you are right |
| 05:18.57 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: since you are on personal, you don't need (or want) any of the -devel packages |
| 05:19.06 | aseigo_h | (unles you've added the compiler, etc) |
| 05:19.06 | marcusU | Unless you want to compile stuff. |
| 05:19.20 | lovelyx | maybe a c++ compiler and kbabel |
| 05:19.23 | canllaith | personal not having a compiler by default =p |
| 05:19.27 | aseigo_h | marcusU: Personal doesn't come w/a compiler. you can add it via YAST from an online repository later if you want.. but |
| 05:19.44 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: ah, you've add the compiler then? |
| 05:19.45 | lovelyx | canllaith: yup that sucks. |
| 05:20.01 | marcusU | aseigo_h: I've used SuSE since version 5.1... I know. |
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| 05:20.05 | lovelyx | aseigo_h: not yet |
| 05:20.26 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: well, it's not so bad. you just put one of online mirrors into your YAST sources and then click on one of devel packages and make it resolve the dependences for you =) |
| 05:20.39 | canllaith | hahaha who knows all the YAST hacks then? :P |
| 05:20.40 | marcusU | Personal used to come with a compiler, though. SuSE has continued to strip-down the personal edition. |
| 05:20.40 | aseigo_h | marcusU: ew. 5.1... i really didn't like SUSE much before 8 |
| 05:20.51 | aseigo_h | yes |
| 05:21.15 | swoon | hrmm what could I not have installed/configured in xorg/kde thats not letting the fonts look good? |
| 05:22.11 | canllaith | damnit |
| 05:22.15 | canllaith | after that imac my screen is too small |
| 05:22.19 | canllaith | :( |
| 05:22.40 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: let me go see if there's a YOU update for kde somewhere though |
| 05:22.49 | lovelyx | ok |
| 05:23.26 | swoon | ... anyone? |
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| 05:24.22 | lovelyx | canllaith: I have a 17 inches screen, is good enough i think |
| 05:24.46 | canllaith | lovelyx: There is a 17" imac next to me... but I'm on a 13" screen on my teeny laptop now :( |
| 05:25.12 | Dhraakellian | including dependencies, 12 out of 26 |
| 05:25.17 | swoon | ... |
| 05:25.26 | lovelyx | canllaith: Lol, yes, thos imacs have big flat screens |
| 05:25.30 | canllaith | swoon: if we knew we'd tell you |
| 05:25.34 | marcusU | aseigo_h: SuSE was one of the only distros that didn't mysyteriously die during install. That's why I used it. |
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| 05:25.44 | xomp | :D |
| 05:25.44 | canllaith | slayerbob: just read your message |
| 05:25.53 | swoon | marcusU: do you like suse? what version do you use |
| 05:25.53 | canllaith | If you use that config on 6.9 |
| 05:25.53 | slayerbob | which message ? |
| 05:26.01 | slayerbob | oh that one :P |
| 05:26.01 | canllaith | Either run make menuconfig and check all the options or |
| 05:26.04 | canllaith | make oldconfig |
| 05:26.09 | slayerbob | ooops |
| 05:26.12 | canllaith | mkay? :) |
| 05:26.14 | slayerbob | it is already compiling :$ |
| 05:26.17 | canllaith | hahaha too late? well, it might work |
| 05:26.19 | canllaith | :P |
| 05:26.21 | slayerbob | heh |
| 05:26.23 | slayerbob | i see if it works |
| 05:26.24 | slayerbob | if not |
| 05:26.26 | slayerbob | make distclean |
| 05:26.26 | canllaith | although evdev would have been a smart thing to enable |
| 05:26.28 | canllaith | ah well |
| 05:26.33 | marcusU | swoon: I'm using 9.0 but with lots of stuff compiled from source. I'll move to something newer when SuSE moves to GCC 3.4.x or 4.0 |
| 05:26.34 | slayerbob | then make oldconfig |
| 05:27.06 | marcusU | swoon: I really like a SusE. It configures my printer so nicely, and it's got the best X configuration program I've used. |
| 05:27.32 | lovelyx | aseigo_h: you think this one could work? ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu |
| 05:27.37 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: can't find one.. looks likee you'll have to d/l from download.kde.org and go from there |
| 05:27.44 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: that's the one i usually use =) |
| 05:27.51 | lovelyx | lol, cool |
| 05:27.52 | swoon | marcusU: hav e you been a linux user long? |
| 05:27.53 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: in fact, that's the one i grabbed the 3.3.2 rpms from tonight |
| 05:28.14 | lovelyx | :) |
| 05:28.14 | marcusU | swoon: Since 1999. I used NeXTSTEP for 4 years before that. |
| 05:28.23 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: that one and the Utah mirror are pretty fast if you are in the west.... |
| 05:28.30 | swoon | and marcusU a suse user for long? |
| 05:28.41 | marcusU | Again, since 1999. |
| 05:28.59 | swoon | marcusU: Im still trying to decide between mdk 10.1 and suse 9.2 ... have them both... |
| 05:29.19 | aseigo_h | swoon: try them both =) |
| 05:29.27 | lovelyx | aseigo_h: well I'm in Mexico |
| 05:29.32 | marcusU | mdk always mysteriously died when I tried to install it. I think it might have been some stupid ACPI thing. |
| 05:29.38 | swoon | I have been, Ive been a linux user for about 2 yrs... |
| 05:29.44 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: ah, cool... wherabouts? |
| 05:29.58 | lovelyx | mexico city |
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| 05:30.26 | marcusU | But like my Qt installation is from source. So is my KDE> |
| 05:30.36 | aseigo_h | swoon: personally i like mdk's general look and integration ... they need to catch up with the standards a bit (e.g. the menu standard) and need to optimize their builds properly (which is ironic since they began as an "optimized distro") |
| 05:30.50 | aseigo_h | swoon: but i love SUSE's speed, stability and reliability... |
| 05:31.09 | xomp | very nice work guys on this new build |
| 05:31.19 | marcusU | Now, I did have to rebuild my kernel with SuSE to get MPlayer's mga_vid drivers to compile. It was very frustrating. |
| 05:31.22 | aseigo_h | swoon: i do like mdk's urpmi better than the YAST software installer, but the rest of YAST kicks mdk's control center imo |
| 05:31.27 | swoon | aseigo: I like their stability, but I did not like 9.1s speed... |
| 05:31.42 | sarah03 | Oh. Wonderful. aRts is telling me that it can't open an mp3 because it's got an ID3v2 header on it. |
| 05:31.52 | canllaith | hey that is one thing I noticed |
| 05:32.05 | canllaith | my arts works again now on 3.3.2 :D I can use juk w00t |
| 05:32.08 | canllaith | :D |
| 05:32.12 | aseigo_h | swoon: oh? i found it one of the better performing binary distros |
| 05:32.19 | aseigo_h | canllaith: hehe.. horray! |
| 05:32.37 | marcusU | I can't tell a different in perf. |
| 05:33.08 | xomp | were is kde's default wallpapers stored? |
| 05:33.20 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.32 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.38 | canllaith | I was close :) |
| 05:33.43 | xomp | thankies :) |
| 05:33.47 | aseigo_h | well, `kde-config --prefix`/share/wallpapers =P |
| 05:33.57 | canllaith | aseigo_h: I know what distro he's using =p |
| 05:34.01 | aseigo_h | gah. now i want to go out dancing |
| 05:34.13 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.28 | lovelyx | aseigo_h, so I can't download the packages from YaST, even if I teel it to donwload them from orgegonstate? |
| 05:34.37 | swoon | marcusU: but I do like the thought of suses nvidia ease, and stuff like that... but I think the only thing keeping me to mandrake is I feel like there are more packages available (overnet for instance) and support |
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| 05:35.58 | xomp | canllaith, where was that cron job in slackware 10 that drives you crazy? *looking to delete it to see if it's what causes the random lockups* |
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| 05:36.05 | thr1ce | anyone running 3.3.2? |
| 05:36.16 | xomp | thr1ce, I am *grins big* |
| 05:36.20 | canllaith | xomp: erm cron.hourly and it's kmod or something |
| 05:36.22 | canllaith | thr1ce: yes I am :D |
| 05:36.30 | thr1ce | i can't get the shade button to work |
| 05:36.30 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: hrm.. not in YOU.. let me see what happens in the regular installer |
| 05:36.31 | thr1ce | any tricks? |
| 05:36.44 | lovelyx | ok |
| 05:36.56 | xomp | canllaith, /etc/cron.hourly/kmod ? |
| 05:37.31 | xomp | oooh I do like the alt-tab vertical :) |
| 05:37.50 | sarah03 | *nodnod* Very handy. |
| 05:38.27 | xomp | think I'll update x tonight |
| 05:39.00 | thr1ce | anyone gotten the shade button to work? |
| 05:39.05 | thr1ce | mine fails miserably =[ |
| 05:39.34 | sarah03 | Shade seems to work here. |
| 05:39.36 | canllaith | xomp: yes |
| 05:39.36 | aseigo_h | xomp: my favourite feature of the alt-tab vert |
| 05:39.45 | sarah03 | (Though I'm on 3.3.1 right now.) |
| 05:39.46 | aseigo_h | xomp: ... you can click on an item w/the mouse |
| 05:39.55 | xomp | something is seriously wrong with my konq I believe |
| 05:40.01 | xomp | awesome :D |
| 05:40.14 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: yeah, you have to do it manually basically |
| 05:40.24 | aseigo_h | xomp: it's really handy when you've got a million items there =) |
| 05:40.31 | lovelyx | ok, thanks aseigo_h |
| 05:40.37 | sarah03 | Hm. The last thing I care to do when I'm using alt-tab is to grab the mouse... *shrug* |
| 05:40.48 | xomp | yes, as I always do lol |
| 05:40.56 | sarah03 | (That's why I'm using alt-tab in the first place. :) |
| 05:41.01 | aseigo_h | sarah03: heh.. well, i don't do it often.... |
| 05:41.12 | aseigo_h | sarah03: but at work i have 2 monitors and a bajillion things open |
| 05:41.14 | xomp | it's nice to know it's available :) |
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| 05:41.57 | aseigo_h | sarah03: so i'll hit alt-tab and then spot the item at (X + N/2) % N, where N is a largish number of windows and X is my current position |
| 05:42.08 | aseigo_h | sarah03: at that point i just grab the mouse and go click =) |
| 05:42.18 | sarah03 | That's when I start hitting alt+shift+tab. |
| 05:42.51 | sarah03 | It's more hassle for me to reach my hand up to the mouse than it is for me to twitch one finger a few times. |
| 05:42.57 | aseigo_h | mmm... (X + N/2) %N is the same distance up or down |
| 05:43.21 | sarah03 | That, and I tend to keep only a small number of windows open at once. |
| 05:43.25 | aseigo_h | well, close enough to being so anyways. within 1 |
| 05:43.30 | aseigo_h | sarah03: yeah, that's a good idea |
| 05:43.53 | xomp | is x11 dependant on the 2.6.* kernels? |
| 05:43.54 | rei_0000 | ouch |
| 05:43.57 | sarah03 | It's either that or watch my build crawl at the moment. |
| 05:44.11 | aseigo_h | sarah03: lol... |
| 05:44.13 | sarah03 | Ick. I don't think I run into ever having quite that many windows open. |
| 05:44.15 | rei_0000 | my system would crawl at that many windows |
| 05:44.36 | sarah03 | I do quite frequently end up with 10+ tabs in Konsole and another 15+ in Konqueror... |
| 05:44.37 | rei_0000 | only 256 Megs of ram |
| 05:44.48 | aseigo_h | sarah03: mmm.. tabbed konsole... |
| 05:45.12 | lovelyx | aseigo_h: cool when i download the package , it installs with yast |
| 05:45.15 | sarah03 | Some forms of MDI are nice to work with. |
| 05:45.24 | sarah03 | Other forms of MDI are worthless. :0 |
| 05:45.26 | sarah03 | :) |
| 05:46.10 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: oh yeah, i always forget about the yastpart. yeah, that's pretty cool |
| 05:46.27 | canllaith | ack crap |
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| 05:46.33 | canllaith | brb |
| 05:46.42 | Sizaint | where can i find some visulizations for amaroK |
| 05:46.43 | Sizaint | ? |
| 05:46.50 | lovelyx | aseigo_h, should I install all the dvelop tools, I just want a c++ compiler and Kbabel :( |
| 05:47.12 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: yeah, it's nice to have those around... |
| 05:47.22 | lovelyx | ;) |
| 05:47.25 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: kbabel... going to help out with the Spanish translation? |
| 05:47.50 | xomp | lucha libre |
| 05:47.56 | lovelyx | I'm a volunteer to translate kde docs to spanish, but i need kbabel! :) |
| 05:48.17 | lovelyx | xomp, Lucha libre? lol you are funny |
| 05:48.18 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: awesome.. great to see more i18n people about |
| 05:48.38 | lovelyx | yup |
| 05:48.51 | xomp | lovelyx, doesn't it mean like.. free fighter? or something? heh |
| 05:48.52 | aseigo_h | man... kgoldrunner is such old skool fun |
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| 05:49.02 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 05:49.17 | lovelyx | lucha libre is like the WWF |
| 05:49.21 | xomp | haha |
| 05:49.36 | xomp | don't you mean WWE? :p |
| 05:49.51 | lovelyx | oops, my mistake again |
| 05:49.54 | aseigo_h | world wildlife federation =) |
| 05:50.04 | lovelyx | how could I know that ;) |
| 05:50.25 | aseigo_h | i just think it's funny they actually had to change their name |
| 05:50.50 | lovelyx | why is so? |
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| 05:53.09 | slayerbob | who had to change their name ? |
| 05:53.12 | attifinch | wwf |
| 05:53.14 | attifinch | to wwe |
| 05:53.18 | slayerbob | why ? |
| 05:53.25 | attifinch | the wild life foundation sued them |
| 05:53.31 | slayerbob | federations are bad ? |
| 05:53.35 | attifinch | wwf- world wildlife foundation |
| 05:53.44 | slayerbob | yes i know... |
| 05:53.51 | slayerbob | why did they have to change their name then ? |
| 05:53.57 | attifinch | no |
| 05:54.14 | lovelyx | is there much difference between kde 3.2.1 and kde 3.3.2? |
| 05:54.14 | attifinch | the world wrestling federation had to change it |
| 05:54.22 | slayerbob | never heard of them |
| 05:54.25 | Renze | lovelyx: lots |
| 05:54.26 | attifinch | .. 3.3.1 is very nice in opinion |
| 05:54.31 | attifinch | 3.3.2 is out? |
| 05:54.33 | slayerbob | so i am not surprised that the other wwf won :) |
| 05:54.35 | Renze | yes |
| 05:54.45 | attifinch | much a diff betwen 3.3.1 ? |
| 05:54.55 | Renze | mostly bug fixes |
| 05:55.13 | lovelyx | renze: so, will I have to reboot of something after installing all packages? |
| 05:55.24 | Renze | lovelyx: reboot? what's that? :) |
| 05:55.44 | Renze | isn't that a computer generated kids show? |
| 05:55.46 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 05:55.46 | xomp | I'm about to "attempt" an x11 upgrade to 6.8.1, is it neccessary to update my kernel to one of the 2.6.* kernels? |
| 05:55.56 | Renze | xomp: no |
| 05:55.59 | lovelyx | renze, lol! |
| 05:56.02 | slayerbob | it takes a most non-zero time to compile the 2.6.9 kernel on a p3m-450 |
| 05:56.36 | xomp | Renze, thanks pal ;) |
| 05:56.53 | attifinch | i think my next update will be 3.4 |
| 05:57.00 | attifinch | you think kde is going for the osx look? |
| 05:57.10 | Renze | attifinch: I hope not |
| 05:57.37 | attifinch | its kind of win xp/osx look |
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| 05:58.43 | lovelyx | I think KDE is much better looking that luna |
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| 05:59.12 | lovelyx | but noot as good looking as osx |
| 05:59.22 | vlad | so i just installed kde 3.4 with konstruct, but it's not showing up in /etc/X11/Sessions, so I don't know how to start it. startkde seems to need X running, but startx goes directly into kde 3.3 |
| 05:59.32 | attifinch | yeah i actually like the osx look |
| 05:59.33 | lovelyx | at least i think kde 3.2.1 is not. |
| 05:59.39 | attifinch | but it just dosent have the functionality |
| 06:00.46 | lovelyx | attifinch, I think mac osx is the best OS today, at least for desktop pourposes |
| 06:01.24 | xomp | geesh, my bro in law is retarded |
| 06:01.49 | xomp | ask's for my help and he cannot explain his problem in chat so I ask him to take a snapshot and email it to me and he says no |
| 06:02.18 | lovelyx | xomp, why not? |
| 06:02.34 | aseigo_h | lovelyx: you have a mac? |
| 06:02.37 | xomp | just threw a 120gig in his xbox today and he's having problems with the ftp dameon in evox |
| 06:03.11 | lovelyx | aseigo_h, I don't, my cousin. |
| 06:03.34 | xomp | a red othat looks like a socer ball in side <-- his description of his problem |
| 06:03.58 | lovelyx | lol |
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| 06:04.25 | aseigo_h | what's an othat? |
| 06:04.39 | xomp | ok guys, going for the ole x11 upgrade.. wish me luck and you can count on me joining up in irssi asking for help with xorg.conf lmao |
| 06:04.45 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 06:04.47 | xomp | lol aseigo I dunno really :p |
| 06:04.48 | canllaith | xomp: hang on |
| 06:04.50 | canllaith | Lets preempt this |
| 06:04.54 | xomp | canllaith, sure :D |
| 06:04.59 | canllaith | Have you just upgraded from default slack 10 xorg to a later version? |
| 06:05.14 | sarah03 | That was annoying. |
| 06:05.25 | xomp | canllaith, I have once before and know for a fact that my xorg.conf had some things that needed altering |
| 06:05.36 | canllaith | xomp: yes I can givev you a heads up about that right now if you like |
| 06:05.38 | xomp | my xorg.conf can be viewed @ www.conley-family.com/xorg.conf |
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| 06:05.48 | xomp | canllaith, please do! :) |
| 06:05.52 | canllaith | xomp: If you have upgrade to say 6.8.1 |
| 06:05.57 | andy | hi |
| 06:06.07 | canllaith | You'll have to change the keyboard section there is a change in case between versions |
| 06:06.11 | xomp | canllaith, that's what I'm planning on upgrading too |
| 06:06.14 | lovelyx | adny, hi |
| 06:06.16 | canllaith | So Driver "Keyboard" becomes Driver "keyboard" |
| 06:06.20 | andy | i am running on debian, how do i upgrade from kde 3.2 to kde 3.3? |
| 06:06.31 | canllaith | Only for that one, the rest are fine. Only the Keyboard needs the case change |
| 06:06.33 | lovelyx | lol! :P |
| 06:06.54 | xomp | canllaith, can you look at my current xorg.conf and tell me what needs changing? |
| 06:06.59 | andy | i am running on debian, how do i upgrade from kde 3.2 to kde 3.3.2? |
| 06:07.11 | canllaith | No I can't right now cause I'm doing lotsa other things. The Keyboard one is really the only caveat I can think of |
| 06:07.25 | canllaith | xomp: if you ask me again in about 10 minutes though |
| 06:07.42 | xomp | Load "speedo" was one that I had to remove back then IIRC |
| 06:07.45 | xomp | oh okay :) |
| 06:07.51 | lovelyx | andy, go to kde.org |
| 06:09.09 | andy | i went to kde.org and i went to ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.3.2/ i do not see a debian release |
| 06:09.40 | canllaith | andy: So wait for someone to release packages? :) |
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| 06:09.59 | andy | how can i upgrade through apt-get |
| 06:10.11 | xomp | canllaith, which needs the changing.. both? |
| 06:10.15 | xomp | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.15 | xomp | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.25 | lovelyx | andy, is there no packages is debians website? |
| 06:10.38 | andy | not that i know of |
| 06:11.05 | straw | it's Driver "kbd" with xorg 6.8.x, xomp |
| 06:11.24 | xomp | straw, thanks :) |
| 06:11.35 | lovelyx | andy, then I think you will have to wait for the packages to be released, as canllaith says |
| 06:11.48 | andy | ok |
| 06:12.13 | lovelyx | andy, what kde release do you have? |
| 06:12.21 | xomp | does anyone know what " Load "speedo"" is? *just curios* |
| 06:12.49 | aseigo_h | xomp: its for when you don't feel like boxers OR tighty whities |
| 06:12.50 | andy | i have kde 3.2 |
| 06:12.58 | sarah03 | xomp: 'speedo' is a font format. |
| 06:13.05 | xomp | aseigo_h: lmao! that's what i was thinking |
| 06:13.09 | aseigo_h | sarah03: bah. sure. ruin all my fun =P |
| 06:13.09 | straw | xomp: old, not used fonts |
| 06:13.18 | xomp | ok so I'm gonna remove that line hehe |
| 06:13.50 | lovelyx | andy, then the update must be just secuity fixes |
| 06:13.52 | xomp | dang it sarah03!! i had my bike halfway out the hallway too! |
| 06:13.58 | sarah03 | lol |
| 06:14.25 | lovelyx | andy, reclaim to debian. |
| 06:15.03 | xomp | once I upgrade x I know I'll need to reinstall my graphics driver (nvidia) am I to run special lunix commands like insmod or anything like that afterwards? |
| 06:15.40 | xomp | every since reading that article I find myself misspelling "linux" |
| 06:16.11 | lovelyx | lunix? |
| 06:16.56 | xomp | here goes |
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| 06:21.06 | lovelyx | aseigo_h, this error appeared libjack.so.0 not available |
| 06:22.13 | marcusU | There are so many audio libs now that it's very confusing. |
| 06:22.38 | lovelyx | ok, let me try again |
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| 06:22.55 | xomp | holy christ |
| 06:23.06 | xomp | _BIG_ improvement over the old X11 |
| 06:23.16 | xomp | kde booted completely in like.. 2 sec's |
| 06:23.33 | marcusU | Huh? What? |
| 06:23.53 | xomp | just upgraded from x11 6.7.0 to 6.8.1 |
| 06:25.14 | marcusU | I'm still using 4.3.0 |
| 06:25.40 | Lord-Phoenix | anyone know how i can install shadow passwords post-install? |
| 06:26.08 | marcusU | I'm afraid that moving from 4.3.0 to X.org will render my X11 stuff non-working. :-( |
| 06:26.30 | marcusU | And I don't have a fabulous graphics card, so I don't know if that it will make much difference. |
| 06:28.13 | marcusU | Much difference in terms of compatibility or in what? |
| 06:28.15 | Dhraakellian | integrated intel graphics card |
| 06:28.20 | Dhraakellian | at all |
| 06:28.25 | marcusU | I don't know what I would really gain, other than having the "latest greatest." |
| 06:28.45 | marcusU | I have a Matrox G550. Which is great for playing videos with MPlayer, but not chic and exciting. |
| 06:29.43 | marcusU | I don't want to get SaX2 into a state where it does not work. |
| 06:29.49 | Dhraakellian | from what I understand, XF86 4.3 to xorg 6.7 is about like xf86 4.3 to xf86 4.4 |
| 06:30.39 | marcusU | I think I'll wait until I move to the next version of SuSE, but I'm not going to do that until they ship GCC 3.4.x or 4.0 with it. |
| 06:30.44 | xomp | ./configure &&make &&checkinstall <--makes a slackware package right? |
| 06:30.49 | marcusU | Their 9.2 still ships with nasty 3.3.x |
| 06:33.55 | swoon | I wonder if suse 9.2 is more stable than mandrake 10.1 |
| 06:34.10 | marcusU | Stable? |
| 06:40.11 | marcusU | Hmmm |
| 06:40.21 | marcusU | kdeextragear-libs1 does not compile with --enable-final |
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| 06:41.11 | marcusU | What does --enable-closure do? |
| 06:41.12 | kd3 | What directory and file name does suse's konqueror use for its bookmark file? |
| 06:41.14 | marcusU | Something about templates? |
| 06:41.25 | marcusU | canllaith: All the core kde packages compile for me with --enable-final |
| 06:41.39 | canllaith | mmm |
| 06:41.46 | marcusU | (core meaning everything extra kdenonbeta and extragear |
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| 06:43.41 | kd3 | I thought it was bookmark.html, but I can't find it. |
| 06:44.25 | grepper | ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
| 06:44.45 | kd3 | thanks , I'll look |
| 06:46.38 | kd3 | hmmm...... locate didn't find it. Does updatedb log hidden "." files and directories? |
| 06:47.15 | grepper | shouldn't, no |
| 06:48.21 | grepper | ls $(kde-config --localprefix)share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
| 06:51.09 | kd3 | grepper: it's there. I'm not sure how I'd find it if you didn't already know where to look. :( I guess you do a find from / |
| 06:51.33 | grepper | its always in your $KDEHOME |
| 06:51.54 | grepper | which is kde-config --localprefix ( usually $HOME/.kde) |
| 06:52.56 | kd3 | thanks |
| 06:54.09 | kd3 | grepper: btw - what is the diff between ${.....} and $(....) ? |
| 06:56.20 | grepper | echo $(command) will return the results of the command, the other will not |
| 06:58.00 | Renze | bah, dumb people deserve what they get :) |
| 06:58.02 | kd3 | :) |
| 06:58.20 | Dhraakellian | s/n,/n that / |
| 06:58.27 | Dhraakellian | perhaps? |
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| 06:59.07 | Dhraakellian | or something like that |
| 06:59.24 | Dhraakellian | At least I spelled "grammar" correctly! |
| 06:59.44 | Dhraakellian | grepper: not much of a problem |
| 07:00.28 | grepper | true |
| 07:01.34 | Dhraakellian | just the stickler in me who doesn't always know what it is about which he talks |
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| 07:08.26 | straw | heh. nice domain |
| 07:08.36 | grepper | oh, you mean explain vs "explain that" ? |
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| 07:13.47 | Oleg_ | wow! kde 3.3.2 is out! |
| 07:18.38 | Dhraakellian | <stereotypical gentoo comment> still compiling </stereotypical gentoo comment> |
| 07:19.28 | Dhraakellian | including dependencies, portage is just starting on 16 of 26 |
| 07:19.32 | Dhraakellian | kdeartwork |
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| 07:24.28 | xomp | I love this ichat stylesheet for kopete |
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