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00:11.43Oleg_There is libflashplayer.so in /usr/local/netscape/plugins
00:12.01Oleg_and that folder is listed in the plug-ins sections
00:12.22Oleg_but still Konqueror doesn't recognize the plug-in
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00:24.01Oleg_why the damn flash doesn't work?!
00:24.09BeachDazeneed help with configuring the slide show screensaver...in that it won't configure??
00:25.34grepperOleg_: you are sure the link is correct ?
00:27.17Oleg_yes. libflashplayer.so is located in /usr/local/netscape/plugins directory
00:28.05Dhraakellianis it possible to undo a tag edit with JuK?
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00:34.16Oleg_why doesn't flash plug-in work? why doesn't java plug-in work?
00:37.28grepperOleg_: you have flashplayer.xpt there as well ?
00:37.58Oleg_let me see
00:39.23Oleg_yes
00:39.25Oleg_it
00:39.35Oleg_it's located in the same directory
00:39.52grepperand that dir is in konq's plugin scan path ?
00:40.22grepper<PROTECTED>
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00:41.24Oleg_yes
00:41.31grepperhm
00:41.37SuperL4gweird...
00:41.55grepperrun :  file  /usr/local/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
00:41.59grepperwhat does it say ?
00:42.05Oleg_ok
00:42.20SuperL4gKonq renders crappy for some things and spectacular for others.
00:42.40Oleg_how do I run the file?
00:42.55grepperOleg_: that was the full command I gave you
00:43.03Oleg_ok
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00:43.19grepper"file  /usr/local/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
00:44.00Oleg_/usr/local/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
00:44.52grepperand its 755 permissions ?
00:45.31Oleg_doesn't say anything about the permissions
00:45.47grepperls -l /usr/local/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
00:46.37Oleg_-rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 2096844 Sep 29 19:33 /usr/local/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
00:46.47SuperL4gdoh
00:46.54SuperL4g777
00:47.44Oleg_so is there anything wrong with the permissions?
00:49.19grepper755 is plenty, but are far as trouble shooting why its not working, no
00:49.37grepperdunno then - what version of flashplayer plugin is it ?
00:49.47Oleg_-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 856 Sep 29 19:33 /usr/local/netscape/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
00:50.47Oleg_how can I find out what version this is?
00:51.27Oleg_should flashplayer.xpt have the same permissions as libflashplayer.so?
00:51.54grepperother way around, but what you have should not stop it from working
00:52.46Oleg_I wanna load this page: www.lane-davies.com
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00:52.51u_int32_thowcome i can't get kmail to filter to folders on my server
00:52.57u_int32_tis it that immature
00:53.04Oleg_this page has a flash introduction
00:56.22illogic-alwoot! Flash!
00:56.35illogic-alwait... I hate flash as much as I hate javascript now...
00:56.43illogic-alBOOOOO! Flash.
00:58.08Oleg_so, you don't know how to help me?
00:59.08DhraakellianOleg_: I think illogic-al doesn't believe that you have a problem
00:59.18Oleg_hehe
00:59.35illogic-alyeah. i wan't following :-(
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01:00.14illogic-aljake|teh|rape ?
01:00.19illogic-alyou animal.
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01:00.58dr|z3d:P
01:01.19dr|z3dtime for a shameless plug: http://bms.r0gue.net
01:02.04illogic-alheheh
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01:04.01illogic-alHAHA!
01:04.14illogic-alInterfect Explodus... gotta use that some time
01:06.55dr|z3d:)
01:07.01SuperL4gu_int32_t: you're not happy unless you're complaining about something, are you?
01:07.06dr|z3dtry googling Interfect Explodus ..
01:07.09illogic-allol
01:07.16dr|z3dquite a lot of shizz out there
01:07.16u_int32_tSuperL4g hey if it dont work right, no one will use it
01:07.52illogic-alblogs.msdn.com. lmao
01:09.51illogic-al"The more I read on this blog, the more it seems people are recommending features for Interfect Explodus that are available already for other browsers.. it would be so in keeping with the M$ philosophy to cherry pick the best innovations in other browsers and screw up the implementation."
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01:18.16homer2is there a .tgz package for slackware?
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01:18.36brodysomeone feel like helpin me out
01:18.37homer2hi
01:18.49homer2brody, for more help, just ask ur question
01:18.55homer2leave ur email addy
01:18.57homer2like
01:18.59brodyhehe
01:19.09homer2gnuworld [at] pacemaker.ghettobooty.info
01:19.18homer2o.O
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01:28.52PingvenoI just installed kde on gentoo, but dcopserver won't start
01:29.45Pingvenoi googled around, but none of the solutions worked
01:29.57Pingvenois everyone asleep here?
01:30.13Pingvenolol
01:30.16dr|z3dyes. we are. ssh! you'll wake the baby!
01:30.38Pingvenosry :)
01:30.54grepperPingveno: what have you tried ?
01:31.18Pingvenoi changed /etc/hosts around a little
01:31.50Pingvenodeleted /tmp/ICE* and ~/.dcop*
01:32.07Pingvenonot much besides that
01:33.57grepperwhat error does it give you ?
01:34.36PingvenoIt really long, I'll do exerpts
01:35.03PingvenoDCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
01:35.13PingvenoICE Connection rejected!
01:35.35Pingvenothat was what looked important
01:36.41grepperdid you rm ~/.ICEauthority   ?
01:36.58Pingvenothe file doesn't even exist
01:37.45grepper$HOME/.ICEauthority doesn't exist ?
01:38.38Pingvenonope
01:40.42grepperhow are you starting X ?
01:41.20Pingvenotwm
01:41.47grepperoh, you run startx using twm as the wm ?
01:42.01Pingvenothat or kdm
01:42.46Pingvenokde doesn't start from kdm, of course
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02:00.42OlegLFlash and java don't work in konqueror!
02:00.49OlegLwhat's going on?
02:01.52Sympleanyone knows how to fix the kdm pack that doesnt let keyboard work ok
02:02.55grepperOlegL: does this work for you ?  http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54
02:03.13thiagoOlegL: they work on Konqueror here
02:03.19grepperoh, you said the plugins don't even show
02:03.33grepperOlegL: what flash version did you download ?
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02:03.47OlegLI don't know
02:04.05thiagoare you sure you have it?
02:04.34OlegLI guess
02:05.06grepperI would download it again and install it again in konq's plugin path somewhere
02:05.12grepperor:  locate -r flash.*.gz$
02:05.18grepperto see if you saved it somewhere
02:05.31OlegLok
02:05.39grepperget the Flash 7 plugin for linux
02:05.53grepperthen do your best to avoid flash sites :)
02:06.07OlegLhehe
02:06.29Sympleáááá´aáááááá
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02:15.50Oleg_why the damn flash doesn't work?
02:15.56Oleg_why the damn java doesn't work?!
02:16.01Oleg_I'm so upset!
02:20.13Oleg_oh my God!
02:20.29Oleg_grepper: I loaded the page you told me to load and flash works!
02:20.40Oleg_I just loaded the page
02:20.50grepperOleg_: yeah, that page you gave before doesn't work for me either, its crap
02:21.26Oleg_grepper: but in Windows XP, that page works
02:22.41grepperOleg_: yeah, probably didn't check if it worked in anything else
02:23.27Oleg_grepper: the developers of that page didn't check if it worked in Linux?
02:24.12grepperI know a web developer who makes $55+ an hour and whose pages don't even validate, but he says, "hey, it works in 95% of browsers"
02:24.22grepperhe just doesn't care that his code isn't good
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02:25.51aseigo_workgrepper: webdev is such a low-reward effort that few do care =/
02:25.51abiseni use KChmParts for reading chm files by right clicking on the chm file and select KChmParts how can i make chm automatically open in KChmPArts
02:26.35aseigo_workabisen: change the File Association settings for chm files
02:27.25Oleg_This page requires the java plug-in:
02:27.33Oleg_http://www.wost.org/chat.html
02:27.39Oleg_but it doesn't load
02:27.40grepperaseigo_work: 55/hr doesn't seem so bad :)
02:27.56Oleg_It loads in Windows XP, but not in Konqueror
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02:28.05aseigo_workgrepper: i mean personal fulfillment
02:28.09grepperOleg_: you linked to the plugin in your jre plugins dir ?
02:28.11aseigo_workgrepper: money don't buy commitment
02:28.21grepperaseigo_work: yeah, true
02:28.57grepperbut as far as shallow rewards go, its one of the best
02:29.02abisenaseigo_work, i went there i saw but what should i change it to or use whcih package to open chm
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02:29.03abisen??
02:29.40aseigo_workabisen: it's likely on the Embedded Viewer tab
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02:30.00krishnathis is the kde channel, right?  
02:30.01aseigo_workabisen: you may need to Add it yourself, though, or set it "automatically open in"
02:30.08aseigo_workkrishna: last i looked at the name, yes
02:30.14krishnaok good
02:30.26krishnaI keep screwing up on IRC
02:30.51krishnahow would I configure kde 3.2 to send sound to an esd daemon on another system?
02:31.23abisenaseigo_work, what should i enter as the command line for kchmpart
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02:31.36krishnaI think I have the choice to set it in the 'hardware' tab under 'sound' in kcontrol's multimedai panel
02:31.39aseigo_workkrishna: i don'tk now if aRts (the KDE multimedia engine) can do that
02:31.39abisenthere are two places embedding where it works onyl by right clicking
02:31.48abiseni wasnt to enter it in General settings
02:32.05krishnahmm.  There is an option to network-enable the sound in the kcontrol 'sound' panel
02:32.28krishnait's just not clear how to configure it further
02:33.10aseigo_workkrishna: that's from one aRts session to another =)
02:33.11grepperOleg_:[robert@phebehouse /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins] $ file libjavaplugin_oji.so
02:33.11grepperlibjavaplugin_oji.so: symbolic link to `/usr/local/java/j2re1.4.2_04/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so'
02:33.46krishnaoh ok.  drat.  I have the choice to select enlightened sound daemon on the hardware tab under 'sound', so I thought between the two it would do the trick
02:34.43aseigo_workkrishna: AFAIK, no.. i believe it does it via mcop, and esd doesn't deal with mcop
02:35.11krishnaok, I think I kind of understand.  I know artsd can be run with a -esd option, which thoroughly baffles me.
02:36.42krishnathanks aseigo
02:37.02krishnaby the way, is this 'the' kde channel, or 'a' kde channel
02:37.11krishnaI connected to it via irc.debian.org
02:38.02aseigo_workthis is "the" kde users channel
02:38.36aseigo_workthere are several other kde related channels on the freenode irc network, but they mostly development related
02:38.59krishnaah gotcha, thanks
02:40.11krishnathanks for the info.
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02:47.19Quinn_Stormhey, anyone know anything about kopete? perhaps why the rich text controls are disabled in AIM chats?
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02:56.38Oleg_grepper: I found the file and put it in the scan folder
02:57.35Oleg_grepper: but still the plug-in doesn't load
02:58.29grepperwhich directory did you put it in ?
02:59.22Oleg_/root/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
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02:59.54grepperyou should not install the jre there
02:59.55nickv111Hey guys
03:00.21nickv111Sometimes when I turn on my computer and go into kde, the text is really small and thin.
03:00.25nickv111Most of the time, it is pretty bol
03:00.26nickv111bold*
03:00.35nickv111Right now, it is very thin
03:00.38nickv111And small
03:00.40nickv111Why is this?
03:00.55Oleg_grepper: that's why konqueror can't recognize it?
03:02.13grepperdunno, but its just not a great place to put it
03:02.58grepperdo ls -l libjavaplugin_oji.so in the plugin dir you symlinked it from
03:03.27Oleg_I didn't make any symlinks
03:03.56dalin_My K-Menu seems to have been partially corrupted.  My Utilities menu seems to be gone.  Howver it's still OK for the root user.  Is there a file somewhere that I can manually rebuild it from.  
03:04.14grepperuse symlink, no sense duplicating things
03:04.55Oleg_/root/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
03:05.11Oleg_that's what I should put in the konqueror's scan folder?
03:06.04grepperwhere are you putting it ?
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03:07.04Oleg_grepper: under "scan folders"
03:07.22grepperwhat is the name of the directory ?
03:07.26grepper. . .
03:07.44Oleg_/root/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
03:08.09grepperyou really like doing things non standard ways
03:08.22Oleg_:)
03:09.14grepperdo you have mozilla installed ?
03:09.18Oleg_no
03:09.34grepperwhere is another dir that gets scanned ?
03:10.22Oleg_what do you mean by another dir? what other dir?
03:10.44grepperlike /usr/lib/netscape/plugins or whatever
03:14.15Oleg_grepper: many other dirs are there
03:14.30grepperok, I haven't got all night, going out, good luck
03:15.04Oleg_you leaving?
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04:29.53marcusUWhat does it mean when Konqueror says "access keys activated" in the bottom status area?
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04:32.51merlin262Hello, i'm trying to develop an icon theme, and it seems that inheriting icon themes doesn't work, does anyone know why?
04:33.06merlin262Is this just not supported right now?
04:35.24canllaitherm
04:35.33canllaithcanllaith@dell:~/.kde/share/icons/kdeclassic$ cat index.desktop | grep Inherits
04:35.33canllaithInherits=default
04:35.35canllaith?
04:36.06merlin262so, it needs to go in index.desktop and not index.theme?
04:36.34canllaithThat would seem to indicate this - although I have never developed an icon theme.
04:36.58marcusUWhat kind of icon theme are you making?
04:37.19merlin262marcusU, just desktop icons
04:37.20marcusUI want a multimedia icon that doesn't look like a toilet seat.
04:37.35merlin262marcusU, All i'm doing is collecting my favorite icons into a single theme. :)
04:37.38marcusUI swear, the multimedia icon looks like a toilet!
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04:38.02merlin262I can't find anywhere in the code that seems to support loading the inherited icons. :/
04:38.05jeebeshey after I did some kde upgrades today KDM is telling me root logins aren't allowed
04:38.11marcusUAnd the kwrite icon looks like a hair clip.
04:38.25marcusUjeebes: I've seen that before but don't remember the fix.
04:39.13canllaithmerlin262: The simple way is to just change the icon theme....
04:39.32canllaithI use wasp, and then the few icons I don't like I overwrite with some I do
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04:40.20merlin262yea, but this is for distribution packaging goodness...
04:44.16grepperinteresting, mplayer sucks the least cpu out of mpg123, amarok, gstreamer directly, noatun . . .
04:45.00canllaithInteresting to know.
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04:50.21marcusUHmmm. Why did XMMS disappear from the K menu?
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04:54.23grepperkappfinder will get it back easily enough
04:54.44marcusUkappfinder does not find it.
04:54.54ms_spockHi all, I am getting the following when trying to run kaudiocreator: could not start process unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: unknown protocol "audiocd".  Can someone possibly point me to something that would tell me what is wrong?  TIA
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04:55.26marcusUOkay. iT finds it now.
04:55.29marcusUIt didn't before.
04:55.43Dhraakellianms_spock: you to?
04:55.57DhraakellianI had a similar error a while back
04:56.15grigsi just installed kde for the first time on a debian box and the mouse isn't working.
04:56.19Dhraakellianactually, I haven't ripped any CDs since before the 3.3 upgrade
04:56.21ms_spockDhraakellian: :-).
04:56.34grigsit wouldn't be a big deal, but i can't seem to find the key commands to quit kde.
04:56.35marcusUms_spock: I think 2.6.8 kernels have problems with some of this stuff.
04:56.37grigshelp.
04:56.44grigs:-)
04:56.53ms_spockActually neither have I, duno if I have the problem here now or not.  Checking.
04:56.59jeebesso does anyone have any idea why I can't log in as root in kde after a upgrade I just did
04:57.09Dhraakellian2.6.7-gentoo-r4 here
04:57.16ms_spockmarcusU: 2.6.5 still here.
04:58.11Dhraakellianokay... I'm gonna see if I can get the errormessage again
04:58.22marcusUDid you try configuring the audiocd?
04:58.45DhraakellianmarcusU: where/how would one do that?
04:58.54grepperjeebes: easy answer is don't  :)
04:58.58grepperwhat distro ?
04:58.58marcusUms_spock: In KControl, Sound & Multimedia, Audio CDs
04:59.33DhraakellianCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:
04:59.33Dhraakellianklauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.
04:59.33Dhraakellian.
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05:00.07ms_spockmarcusU: no audio cds under that...
05:00.14marcusUgrepper: But I want everything to run with administrator privileges by default, just like Windows. :-)
05:00.25ms_spockAnd I have it here now also after upgrading to 3.3 arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
05:00.48ms_spockSigh, lemme see if grip still works.
05:01.43ms_spockDhraakellian: will let you know in a sec...
05:02.03grigsis there anyway to quit kde without a mouse?
05:02.09Dhraakellianwhen I tried before, the error dialog would disappear within a second
05:02.30Dhraakellianand I had to use a CD with lots of tracks to get it to stay around long enough to copy
05:02.32ms_spockgrigs, try F4 and if that doesn't work, try ctl-alt-bsp
05:02.38greppergrigs: if you use kdm, try ctrl-alt del
05:02.44Dhraakellianfortunately, it stayed around long enough htis time
05:02.54grepperit will shut things down cleaner than ctrl-alt bs
05:03.09ms_spockgrigs: also check to see if your mouse is properly set up in your /etc/X11/XF86Config...
05:03.19grigscontrol alt delete. that did the trick.
05:03.47grigsms_spock yeah, that's my next stop. it obviously isn't working properly.
05:03.53grigs;-)
05:04.09ms_spockDhraakellian: looks like grip is working....  will know for sure in a couple...
05:04.50ms_spockDhraakellian: And I quit using grip because I liked kaudiocreator a LOT better :-/.
05:05.54ms_spockDhraakellian: well, sigh, hopefully it will work again in the next release :-/.
05:06.14Dhraakellianthat's basically what I'm thinking
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05:09.46Dhraakellianms_spock: what distro?
05:15.38Sizaintany one know how to use dispatch-conf?
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05:36.39cilkayHas anyone installed 3.3.3 on Knoppix?
05:37.03cilkayor any other Debian like distro?
05:37.04marcusUUgh.
05:38.15cilkaymarcusU, I'm open for suggestions for a better live distro.
05:38.25marcusUNo, I wasn't commenting about you.
05:38.42cilkayoh sorry, I caught the tail end of the "ugh" I guess:)
05:39.11marcusUSorry. Yeah. I'm having trouble with file associations.
05:39.53ms_spockDhraakellian: gentoo
05:40.23Dhraakelliandid you have USE="-cdparanoia" when you emerged kdemultimedia?
05:41.08DhraakellianI'm gonna try recompiling with USE="cdparanoia" and see if it works, I think
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05:41.20justinmaurerdoes anyone know the command to run kde's command editor?
05:41.51Dhraakelliancommand editor?
05:41.56justinmaureri'm sorry theme editor
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05:43.24marcusUI don't know how to get KMplayer to stop opening my *.ogg files!
05:43.39Dhraakelliankcmshell kthememanager
05:43.41DhraakellianI think
05:43.48justinmaurerthank you
05:44.28marcusUThe file associations menu says that it's set to open in separate viewer. KMplayer isn't even listed in the service preferences.
05:44.34marcusUBut it keeps opening in KMplayer
05:45.37justinmaurerDhraakellian, hmm it didn't work, all I'm trying to do is get to the theme chooser, I can't seem to find it in the newest version
05:46.15marcusUUgh. I'm just going to delete kmplayer!
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05:49.38Dhraakelliancan you get it the normal way through kcontrol?
05:50.09Dhraakelliankicker context menu > add > special button > preferences
05:50.21Dhraakellian^^very nice little thing to have in kicker
05:53.45justinmaurerthank you
05:53.52justinmaurer:)
05:57.57sigjuicehow can I get konqueror to run a wish script by double-clicking?
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06:05.52yooyowhat up yo!
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06:23.46Gumbylo all.  Ive accidentally killed my taskbar with xkill.  is there any way of restarting it without logging out then back in?
06:26.18marcusUGumby: The panel?
06:27.17GumbymarcusU: yes
06:27.25marcusUJust run "kicker"
06:27.27Gumbywith the taskbar etc
06:27.29Gumbyok
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06:44.12charolastrahi people
06:45.22marcusUhi
06:46.58Woody```pfft
06:51.17Woody```the repository header says 3.3.0-3.1
06:51.26Woody```the repository archive has 3.3.0-3.2
06:53.14charolastrai was wondering why my systemtry if behaving very strange since updating to 3.3 (look at this to see what i'm talking about: http://localhost/pics/kicker.jpg); anyone seensomething similiar?
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06:58.06Julianyushi
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07:01.12radioheadanyone know how can i configure kopete with proxy
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07:03.57srednaMornin'
07:06.21marcusUHi.
07:07.08marcusUI can't seem to get KDE to stop using kmplayer to open .ogg files. I finally gave up and deleted kmplayer!
07:07.50charolastralol
07:08.07charolastrahave you played with the mime settings?
07:08.11marcusUYes.
07:08.15marcusUI did everything.
07:09.10charolastrayou could have deletet the exe of kmplayer and made a softlink to the program of your liking
07:09.28marcusUI'm just going to rebuild everything.
07:09.47charolastralol
07:10.03Woody```I started KOrganizer. It puts a tray icon. When I click on the tray icon, it stars a new blank window of KOrganizer? Is that normal?
07:10.14marcusUI think it is.
07:10.40charolastrablaank window? with no data in it?
07:11.07Woody```Yes.
07:11.13Woody```A new Calendar so to speak
07:11.25charolastradid you save you calender once?
07:11.27marcusUDo you already have a calendar created with stuff in it?
07:12.25Woody```I just saved it.
07:12.37Woody```But no change. Do i need to restart it?
07:13.00charolastranormally it opens you last saved one
07:13.10srednaWoody```: Here is starts my standard calendar
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07:15.22radioheadanyone know how 2 setup proxy on kopete?
07:15.49srednaWoody```: Try setting a standard calendar in the kde resources configuration applet in the control center 8under kde components)
07:17.19charolastrathis is a request for comment, the problem is explained in the pic: http://bor.kicks-ass.org/pics/kicker.jpg (28k)
07:17.40srednaradiohead: In the account settings, there is a field for it
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07:18.41Woody```sredna: there is nothing in my version (3.1.3-6.4 redhat) of kde control centre that lets me do that.
07:18.54radioheadsredna, i can`t see proxy configuration there:(
07:18.58srednaWoody```: Oh, sorry
07:19.49srednaradiohead: Oops, it is only for some stuff in jabber, right
07:19.53srednaThen I dont know
07:19.59Woody```sredna: aha! I closed it and it asked me if i want to set it 'active'
07:20.05Woody```sredna: I said 'yes' and voila!
07:20.08srednaWoody```: Good :)
07:20.10radioheadsredna, thx for trying helping me :)
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07:21.17srednaradiohead: MSN™, ICQ™, AIM™ og Yahoo bruger KDE's netværksinfrastruktur. Deres SOCKS proxy-detaljer er indstillet sammen med resten af KDE, I KontrolcenterInternet & Netværk->Proxy.
07:21.21srednaOops
07:21.24srednaDanish :\
07:21.57srednaradiohead: Well, it should use the settings in control center
07:22.21srednaradiohead: Internet & network-<Proxy
07:22.49radioheadsredna,  good idea , forgot about that LOL
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07:28.44srednachakie: I never saw anythign like that before
07:29.07srednachakie: Did you try simply removing the system tray and adding it again?
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07:30.32charolastrayou talking to me :) yes i did
07:31.19charolastrai also tried to finde where the system tray gets it's bootup info from (so i can get rid of this strange "icon")
07:32.42charolastraand it expanded itselfe during normal usage of kde (but without interaction with the systray) from the normal sice to this monster
07:34.18charolastra^^ @ sredna
07:34.37srednachakie: The odd lines looks like thin frames, like it didn't find its icons or stlt
07:35.24charolastrayeah
07:35.56charolastrabut i didn't add anything and its shows no reaction when i rightclick on it
07:36.04srednacharolastra: Some app you have running which acts odd
07:36.35srednacharolastra: Check your process table for suspects, and also look in ~/.xsession-errors for related messages
07:36.45charolastralets see
07:41.33charolastraah, yes, it tells me stuff like "ImportError: No module named network" and "forcing down frameShape"; but again, where does it take this bootup info from?
07:43.42srednaUh, if the application does not identify itself whth the message, there is a problem
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