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| 00:16.38 | JFeustel | This organization list is quite overwhealming. Anyone have advice on how I choose the one that would work best for me? |
| 00:17.36 | dfighter | JFeustel, you choose something that you are interested in |
| 00:19.21 | hugoib | You think its a good approach to the organization to just come like Hi, Im here for the GSoC thing, or you think I should be more friendly and introduce myself in other way, or it doesn't matter? Thanks.! |
| 00:19.55 | JFeustel | Ah, that sounds good. |
| 00:19.58 | dfighter | JFeustel something that you can imagine becoming a long term contributor of, since the aim of GSOC is getting these projects contributors |
| 00:20.01 | JFeustel | Just poke around their IRC channels |
| 00:22.14 | ojwb | hugoib: it's probably more important that you make contact than exactly how you make contact |
| 00:22.31 | anth_r | JFeustel: also, the tags can help narrow down the search some. |
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| 00:23.36 | anth_r | hugoib: what ojwb said. but beyond that, i (as a mentor/admin) generally find it easiest when students show up with an idea about what they'd like to work on. |
| 00:23.57 | anth_r | even just "hey, i saw this on the ideas page and it sounds kinda interesting; can anyone tell me more?". |
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| 00:24.18 | anth_r | just something to indicate you've done more than seen the org name on a list. ;-) |
| 00:24.31 | dfighter | +1 to anth_r |
| 00:24.37 | dfighter | that sounds about the best approach |
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| 00:26.26 | ojwb | yeah, asking the org which projects you should apply for is oddly common |
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| 00:26.34 | ojwb | but hard to usefully answer |
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| 02:57.49 | mithro | morning people |
| 02:57.55 | Naman22 | morning |
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| 02:58.13 | Guest52075 | Haha. It's 10:00 p.m here. |
| 02:58.43 | thiago | IRC time |
| 02:58.51 | thiago | it's always morning when people arrive, it's always evening when they leave |
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| 03:03.09 | constant | thiago: true |
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| 03:07.25 | meflin | that is untrue .. .its always OMG early when they arive and OMG late when they leave |
| 03:07.38 | meflin | irc is like a time black hole |
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| 03:13.57 | RedJ_ | my proposals are almost done. going to submit them as soon as application opens on Monday! :) |
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| 03:19.55 | johndoe_ | can anyone help in choosing an organisation to apply for gsoc? |
| 03:20.20 | meflin | there are 177 orgs ... so .. no |
| 03:20.27 | meflin | you can search on tags |
| 03:20.54 | RedJ_ | johndoe_:Go to http://goo.gl/yxeB0 and look at whichever organizations and projects you feel you are qualified for and would like to work on. |
| 03:20.55 | johndoe_ | i did that..but there are too many..how to decide which one suits me? |
| 03:21.07 | thiago | choose one that works on a language you know, does something you like, produces software you use |
| 03:21.16 | meflin | find one that does something you find fun |
| 03:22.48 | johndoe_ | okay..any examples or sugg of orgs which work on developing mobile apps? |
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| 03:23.06 | meflin | there are 177 orgs .... |
| 03:23.49 | RedJ_ | okay, WordPress has a mobile app so if you like that then apply |
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| 03:24.20 | RedJ_ | if you can'd do your own research, i'm afraid you're not qualified for GSOC. |
| 03:24.24 | johndoe_ | ok thanks..i'll look into it |
| 03:25.51 | RedJ_ | i'm surprised to see PHPBB in the list of organizations (no offense to PHPBB). didn't know people still used that! |
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| 03:29.41 | meflin | I use several forums that use that |
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| 03:30.50 | RedJ_ | my favorite forum software would have to be Discourse, which is still in beta but it's open source also http://try.discourse.org/ |
| 03:31.12 | meflin | the forums I use are not forums I run |
| 03:31.37 | meflin | I have no idea why oss games get gsoc slots |
| 03:31.44 | meflin | and I am an oss game dev |
| 03:32.05 | RedJ_ | is there any reason oss games shouldn't get gsoc slots meflin? |
| 03:32.29 | meflin | doesn't seem to me to the most important projects |
| 03:32.53 | meflin | this is why and you are not in charge ;) |
| 03:33.03 | RedJ_ | i have to agree with you on that actually. |
| 03:34.06 | meflin | its easy to get stuck in your view .... hard to be the one who needs the wide vision |
| 03:34.36 | RedJ_ | it would have been fun to work on a game like this http://nitronic-rush.com |
| 03:34.56 | meflin | I'm a lot more old school |
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| 03:41.20 | meflin | so far is smells like some good students this year ? you? |
| 03:43.10 | RedJ_ | i'm a student |
| 03:43.16 | meflin | heh ::) |
| 03:44.01 | RedJ_ | any tips on how to negotiate a good salary for the GSOC internship? |
| 03:44.11 | RedJ_ | ;) |
| 03:44.27 | meflin | yes argue with your org ;) |
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| 03:49.16 | thiago | RedJ_: there's no negotiation |
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| 03:49.45 | RedJ_ | thiago: i know, just joking :) |
| 03:50.27 | RedJ_ | it's not an internship either |
| 03:50.40 | thiago | indeed |
| 03:50.42 | meflin | wibble wobble timey winey it is |
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| 06:34.56 | scorche | !queue testorg http://squisch.net |
| 06:34.57 | gsocbot | scorche: I queued you at position 1 in the queue |
| 06:35.39 | scorche|sh | !queue testorg2 http://google.com |
| 06:35.40 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: I queued you at position 2 in the queue |
| 06:35.59 | scorche | !nextinline |
| 06:36.00 | gsocbot | scorche: Next in line is scorche with notice 'testorg http://squisch.net' |
| 06:36.03 | scorche | !nextinline |
| 06:36.05 | gsocbot | scorche: Next in line is scorche|sh with notice 'testorg2 http://google.com' |
| 06:36.49 | scorche | !nextinline |
| 06:36.49 | gsocbot | scorche: Next in line is scorche|sh with notice 'testorg2 sdfsdfsdfsdff' |
| 06:36.53 | scorche | !nextinline |
| 06:36.53 | gsocbot | scorche: There's nobody queued up right now. |
| 06:37.04 | scorche | ok - ready for tomorrow then =) |
| 06:37.31 | swook | is this for people who want to leave messages? |
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| 06:37.58 | scorche | swook: no - this is for the IRC meeting tomorrow |
| 06:38.10 | scorche | please leave the bot alone until we tell you ;) |
| 06:38.17 | swook | oh don't worry about that |
| 06:38.23 | swook | may I ask what the IRC meeting will be about? |
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| 06:38.44 | scorche | feedback for orgs who were not accepted |
| 06:39.18 | swook | Ah, I see. Thank you |
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| 06:40.46 | *** topic/#gsoc by ChanServ -> Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the list of participating organizations for this year (once they fill out their profile). | The feedback session for organizations will be held at 16:00 UTC - make yourself comfortable until then! |
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| 06:42.02 | swook | mmm UTC |
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| 06:43.37 | kblin | scorche: I gave carols my mobile number, if gsocbot should give trouble, feel free to give me a call and I'll hop online to see if I can help |
| 06:43.57 | scorche | kblin: ok thanks - it should be fine |
| 06:44.10 | scorche | worst-case scenario, i do it manually like the old days |
| 06:44.21 | kblin | I don't expect problems, but I once ran this manually and that wasn't fun |
| 06:44.21 | scorche | not an issue =) |
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| 06:49.57 | dfighter | yawn |
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| 07:04.49 | jarturomora | Good morning from Spain, does anybody know if the time for the meeting today is 9:00 am UTC? |
| 07:05.42 | jarturomora | I have read the advice at the top of the Channel, sorry for my dumb question :P ... regards! |
| 07:05.42 | stefanha | jarturomora: From /topic: "The feedback session for organizations will be held at 16:00 UTC" |
| 07:05.46 | stefanha | ah |
| 07:05.47 | stefanha | :) |
| 07:06.01 | jarturomora | Thanks stefanha |
| 07:06.06 | jarturomora | :-) |
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| 08:34.35 | kai | omg... |
| 08:35.12 | kai | "Click <a href='...'>here</a> for more details." <-- the 90s called and want their user interface back |
| 08:35.35 | kai | all that is missing is a blink tag |
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| 08:42.50 | swook | kai: That's intuitive design, buttons aren't obvious enough! Both action word (Click) and target (here) are defined as well as what the target will offer (more details). How much more complete can a link be? |
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| 09:08.38 | dileepaj | hi |
| 09:10.01 | dileepaj | hi guys anybody here? |
| 09:11.37 | kai | 360 people, I'd guess |
| 09:12.59 | banas | I really wanted to ask. Organizations get code and developers, students get experience and some money. What's in it for google? |
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| 09:13.14 | swook | A more open world |
| 09:13.20 | swook | and perhaps some recruitment |
| 09:13.28 | swook | positive sentiment to all developers |
| 09:13.38 | swook | and possible support from organisations in the future |
| 09:13.54 | banas | Yes, that sounds good! :) |
| 09:14.13 | sunu | And it convinces people that google is awesome :) |
| 09:14.33 | dileepaj | :) hi kai name is Dileepa from Sri Lanka, I'm looking forward to participate in gsoc this year..I'm going to register for my Msc by mid may at University of Moratuwa |
| 09:14.39 | dileepaj | i have a question regarding |
| 09:14.51 | dileepaj | eligibility to apply for gsoc |
| 09:15.39 | dileepaj | since I'm not yet registered as a student |
| 09:15.50 | swook | acceptance letters are enough |
| 09:16.00 | dileepaj | thanks swook |
| 09:16.07 | swook | let me confirm that with a link |
| 09:16.08 | swook | just a moment |
| 09:16.10 | patrickg | and the relevant date is may, 27th or something (see timeline) |
| 09:16.16 | olly | !amieligible |
| 09:16.25 | olly | hmm, not that |
| 09:16.38 | sunu | !goodenough |
| 09:16.39 | gsocbot | sunu: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 09:16.45 | olly | !eligibility |
| 09:16.45 | gsocbot | olly: "eligibility" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 09:16.53 | swook | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#7._I_have_been_accepted_into_an |
| 09:16.58 | olly | hmm, and that one is for last year |
| 09:17.05 | olly | iirc |
| 09:17.14 | dileepaj | thanks olly,swook |
| 09:17.16 | dileepaj | :) |
| 09:17.18 | swook | np |
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| 09:18.28 | olly | !forget eligibility |
| 09:18.31 | gsocbot | olly: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:19.37 | swook | hmm... about 1200 students each with USD 5500 being funded... equals USD 6.6M. Add operating cost and such and that goes up to USD 7M. I do love Google. |
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| 09:21.04 | olly | !learn eligibility as http://goo.gl/IlvND |
| 09:21.05 | gsocbot | olly: "eligibility" is http://goo.gl/IlvND |
| 09:21.14 | olly | old version was for 2011 |
| 09:21.34 | olly | the budget's in a blog post somewhere |
| 09:21.58 | swook | https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramStatistics |
| 09:22.12 | olly | not all students pass, so it's not the full $5000 for all of them |
| 09:22.34 | olly | but the mentor summit can't be cheap |
| 09:22.40 | swook | don't they get funded until the project is deemed failed? |
| 09:22.58 | olly | yes, so some get $500, some $2750, some $5000 |
| 09:23.19 | swook | oh but $500 is for mentors right? |
| 09:23.39 | olly | the org gets $500 per student (and some pass that on to mentors) |
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| 09:23.57 | olly | the student gets the money in three chunks (assuming they pass evals) |
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| 09:26.18 | swook | yes, I am aware |
| 09:26.31 | DrinkMachine | I really hope I can finish my proposal in time |
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| 11:09.06 | Perdu | How do proposal posting works ? When I submit my proposal, will mentors give me feedback so I can improve it or is it definitive ? |
| 11:09.23 | Perdu | does* work* |
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| 11:12.09 | dfighter | Perdu that depends on whether you give them the link and ask them for feedback or not |
| 11:12.31 | dfighter | I wouldn't expect feedback just because you submitted it into the system |
| 11:12.41 | dfighter | some orgs get hundreds of them... |
| 11:12.54 | Perdu | OK but I can ask feedback to the mentors? |
| 11:13.10 | dfighter | Perdu why couldn't you ask? |
| 11:13.45 | Perdu | I read they have lot of demands and are likely not to accept |
| 11:14.06 | dfighter | likely not to accept what exactly? |
| 11:14.10 | dfighter | your request for feedback? |
| 11:14.59 | gevaerts | dfighter: uhm, mentors can see applications... |
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| 11:15.31 | dfighter | gevaerts yea I know |
| 11:15.47 | gevaerts | So why would you give them a link? |
| 11:15.58 | Perdu | Yea... I will just ask and see |
| 11:16.04 | dfighter | gevaerts because it makes it faster? |
| 11:16.31 | gevaerts | Maybe |
| 11:16.33 | dfighter | altough granted with filtering they can find the proposal in question quiet fast |
| 11:16.39 | gevaerts | I I have doubts though :) |
| 11:16.49 | dfighter | why gevaerts? |
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| 11:16.55 | gevaerts | Well, it depends on how big the organisation is probably |
| 11:16.56 | Perdu | But can you change an uploaded proposal? |
| 11:17.02 | dfighter | yes Perdu |
| 11:17.07 | dfighter | up until the deadline |
| 11:17.11 | Perdu | ok thanks |
| 11:17.13 | gevaerts | dfighter: because I never had trouble finding any proposal I wanted to look at :) |
| 11:17.59 | dfighter | gevaerts ok, however I don't see how that's an incompatible with a link being faster :P |
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| 11:18.40 | dfighter | I mean you get a link in IRC, you just have to click VS. going to Melange, searching for the student's proposal |
| 11:18.58 | dfighter | that's all I meant by it being faster |
| 11:19.00 | gevaerts | That depends on lots of details |
| 11:19.25 | gevaerts | If you have melange open anyway, it doesn't make any difference |
| 11:19.36 | dfighter | ok |
| 11:19.39 | gevaerts | And you have control over which browser window you get it in :) |
| 11:19.56 | gevaerts | Also, irc clients that launch web browsers are broken ;) |
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| 11:20.03 | gevaerts | doesn't have that! |
| 11:20.56 | dfighter | that's ofc your perogative :) |
| 11:22.06 | gevaerts | Anyway, "getting feedback" is one of the many "it depends on the organisation" things :) |
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| 12:16.45 | Brano | Hi! I have one question about coordination. |
| 12:17.05 | Brano | I am working in RedHat (internship) and studying too. |
| 12:17.17 | Brano | Can I work on project from Fedora Project? |
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| 12:17.25 | Brano | The mentor is from Red Hat too. |
| 12:18.57 | swook | I think GSoC is assumed to be full-time |
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| 12:20.29 | stefanha | In theory it's possible but in practice there may be qualified candidates who are available full-time. |
| 12:20.48 | stefanha | So it depends on how the mentors select students, |
| 12:20.51 | stefanha | they may be okay with part-time. |
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| 12:58.47 | pranjal710 | hi, Is any mentor from funf available here? I am unable to get the IRC contact information for them. |
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| 12:59.45 | gevaerts | Have you tried their mailing list? |
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| 13:00.24 | gevaerts | Not everyone uses irc |
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| 13:11.45 | sunu | !goodenough |
| 13:11.46 | gsocbot | sunu: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 13:29.49 | Asix3 | are we still able to communicate with mentoring organizations after monday? I mean are we allowed to communicate up to the application deadline of may 3? |
| 13:31.13 | perepujal | Asix3: You are allowed to communicate all the time |
| 13:31.42 | Asix3 | perepujal: great -- thanks! |
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| 13:31.53 | perepujal | In fact it is recommended... |
| 13:31.57 | perepujal | yw |
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| 13:37.03 | Immanuel | hello |
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| 13:52.12 | johndoe_ | is wireshark a good org to work with for gsoc? |
| 13:55.02 | johndoe_ | anyone there? |
| 13:55.18 | carols | johndoe_: have you asked them? |
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| 13:55.46 | johndoe_ | they haven't given any contact information at all on their ideas page |
| 13:56.12 | johndoe_ | no irc channel, no mailing list or anything like that |
| 13:56.28 | carols | johndoe_: well, this is where a little googling might help you out. |
| 13:56.49 | gevaerts | johndoe_: there is contact information on their melange profile page |
| 13:57.07 | johndoe_ | although i am interested in the ideas they propose to implement but i am unsure of whether there will be any active participation from them at all or not |
| 13:57.26 | carols | johndoe_: and btw i see a mail, google+, blogger, and Facebook link on their hoempage. |
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| 13:58.36 | johndoe_ | but they seem to be for general communication and not for gsoc applications specifically |
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| 13:59.15 | ansgar | johndoe_: "Either way, if you are a student you should contact the submitter/mentor or the wireshark-dev mailing list for background information or clarification before submitting your proposal. More information about wireshark-dev and complete list archives can be found on the mailing lists page." -- http://wiki.wireshark.org/GSoC2013 |
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| 14:00.45 | saste | hi |
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| 14:08.30 | carols | hi saste |
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| 14:15.43 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> For the IRC rejection feedback meeting, please change your nick to the format {org}|{nick}. You can see the tutorial on queueing yourself for the meeting here: http://goo.gl/ydIt2. Once we have muted the channel for the meeting you will need to PM an op to get voice privileges. Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the li |
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| 14:16.13 | carols | !showqueue |
| 14:16.16 | Naman22_ | hey carols |
| 14:16.21 | carols | hey Naman22_ |
| 14:16.46 | Naman22_ | carols, who maintains the GSoC facebook page? |
| 14:17.00 | carols | Naman22_: i do, however we haven't updated it for internal reasons. |
| 14:17.11 | carols | i will probably just delete it, actually. |
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| 14:19.24 | carols | why do you ask? |
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| 14:21.42 | Naman22_ | i though it's not authentic. kinda misleading since no updates |
| 14:21.58 | KolibriOS|yogev | !queue KolibriOS Project Team |
| 14:21.58 | gsocbot | KolibriOS|yogev: I queued you at position 1 in the queue |
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| 14:24.59 | carols | Naman22_: yeah, i should delete it all together. we don't use Facebook anymore. |
| 14:25.13 | sunu | !next |
| 14:25.16 | gsocbot | sunu: "next" is (#1) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens., or (#2) April 19th 16:00 UTC: Rejected org feedback meeting |
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| 14:26.32 | gsocbot | MATE|stefano-k: I queued you at position 2 in the queue |
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| 14:27.59 | ffmpeg|saste | !queue FFmpeg |
| 14:28.00 | gsocbot | ffmpeg|saste: I queued you at position 3 in the queue |
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| 14:31.11 | carols | serves some friday tea and coffee |
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| 14:33.14 | ffmpeg|ux | !queue FFmpeg |
| 14:33.14 | gsocbot | ffmpeg|ux: I queued you at position 4 in the queue |
| 14:33.19 | sunu | and where are the cookies ? |
| 14:33.41 | gevaerts | !this cookie | sunu |
| 14:33.41 | gsocbot | sunu: "this cookie" is for you |
| 14:34.05 | sunu | yay! |
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| 14:34.54 | sunu | !cookie |
| 14:34.55 | gsocbot | sunu: "cookie" is omnomnom |
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| 14:38.59 | chro | I'm interested in this idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-3225 |
| 14:39.12 | chro | how can I contact the guys from apache pig? |
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| 14:39.45 | gugu | !next |
| 14:39.48 | gsocbot | gugu: "next" is (#1) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens., or (#2) April 19th 16:00 UTC: Rejected org feedback meeting |
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| 14:40.16 | Compn | chro : why not register for that apache bug tracker and post a reply there ? |
| 14:40.30 | gugu | !gugu |
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| 14:40.34 | chro | ok |
| 14:40.39 | gugu | !next |
| 14:40.41 | gsocbot | gugu: "next" is (#1) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens., or (#2) April 19th 16:00 UTC: Rejected org feedback meeting |
| 14:40.42 | gugu | !prev |
| 14:40.42 | gsocbot | gugu: "prev" is Previously on #gsoc … Nah, let's not go there. |
| 14:40.56 | gugu | !comingup |
| 14:41.01 | gugu | !gugu |
| 14:41.25 | sunu | gugu: !cookie |
| 14:41.47 | gugu | sunu, I love cookies |
| 14:41.50 | sunu | !cookie | gugu |
| 14:41.50 | gsocbot | gugu: "cookie" is omnomnom |
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| 14:42.17 | sunu | this cookie | gugu |
| 14:42.29 | sunu | !this cookie | gugu |
| 14:42.30 | gsocbot | gugu: "this cookie" is for you |
| 14:43.04 | gugu | gsocbot, im grateful |
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| 14:46.29 | tcl|aku | !queue tcl/tk |
| 14:46.30 | gsocbot | tcl|aku: I queued you at position 4 in the queue |
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| 14:46.42 | gsocbot | koda: I queued you at position 5 in the queue |
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| 14:46.44 | gsocbot | feepk: I queued you at position 6 in the queue |
| 14:46.44 | koda | \o/ |
| 14:46.52 | koda | just in time |
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| 14:46.54 | gsocbot | darcs|gh: I queued you at position 7 in the queue |
| 14:46.57 | koda | hi feepk |
| 14:47.22 | nemo | koda: what's the queue for? |
| 14:48.19 | koda | nemo, it's the order of orgs to be addressed |
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| 14:48.39 | koda | carols will run through the list and explain the reasons in that order |
| 14:48.43 | nemo | ah |
| 14:48.48 | feepk | hello koda |
| 14:48.56 | nemo | koda: woah. VLC too? Oo |
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| 14:50.52 | scorche | you might not want to queue up for now...i will be clearing the queue in a bit... |
| 14:50.53 | nemo | hedgewars|koda: does that nick change screw up the queueing? |
| 14:51.02 | hedgewars|koda | hopefully not |
| 14:51.15 | sunu | This is kind of off-topic, but can anyone explain to me why many orgs have their code hosted in their own git/hg servers ? |
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| 14:51.20 | scorche | it wont screw it up, but it will make things more complicated =) |
| 14:51.28 | scorche | ...like i said though, it will be cleared shortly |
| 14:51.29 | xyzabc | ~logs |
| 14:51.29 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 14:51.39 | hedgewars|koda | scorche, ok |
| 14:51.39 | xyzabc | ~log |
| 14:51.40 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 14:51.41 | sunu | I find github/bitbucket etc much more beginnerfriendly :/ |
| 14:51.41 | carols | xyzabc: you need a bang. |
| 14:51.54 | hedgewars|koda | readies the queue command |
| 14:52.01 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
| 14:52.30 | hedgewars|koda | !cookie |
| 14:52.30 | gsocbot | hedgewars|koda: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 14:53.11 | kai | actually it will screw with the queue |
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| 14:53.27 | kai | !next |
| 14:53.29 | gsocbot | kai: "next" is (#1) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens., or (#2) April 19th 16:00 UTC: Rejected org feedback meeting |
| 14:53.41 | carols | i thought you wouldn't be here, kai? :-) |
| 14:53.42 | kai | is the 16:00 UTC correct? |
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| 14:53.58 | kai | carols: I'm leaving in half an hour, actually |
| 14:54.04 | carols | ah, ok |
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| 14:54.44 | kai | but of course the "screw with the queue" bit just means you can't change your message |
| 14:54.48 | carols | kai: yes, the 16:00 is correct. |
| 14:55.14 | carols | it starts in about an hour |
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| 14:55.38 | kai | I'm sure scorche is smart enough to figure out that 'nick for org' might now be 'org|nick for org' |
| 14:55.45 | lovetocode | Hi! How many organisations can one apply for @ GSOC 2013? |
| 14:55.55 | kai | lovetocode: <= 5 |
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| 14:56.08 | carols | lovetocode: in theory 5. because you can submit up to 5 proposals, so you could do a different one for each org. |
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| 14:56.16 | lovetocode | ohh.. thanks @Kai |
| 14:56.32 | kai | lovetocode: I recommend less than that, tough |
| 14:56.44 | kai | lovetocode: it's about quality not quantity |
| 14:57.45 | liori | have you actually calculated whether there was in the past any relation between students' acceptance and number of proposals submitted? that would be interesting to find out |
| 14:58.09 | carols | liori: nope. a project for a research student one day... |
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| 14:58.33 | liori | if you could provide me some anonymized data, i'd love to try |
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| 14:58.53 | kai | liori: I'm sure there's a reasonable anti-correlation' |
| 14:59.12 | carols | liori: we have a bunch of projects for a research student at some point. not right now, though :-) |
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| 14:59.55 | teammates|damith | queue |
| 15:00.05 | balabit|talien | !showqueue |
| 15:00.20 | teammates|damith | !queue |
| 15:00.20 | gsocbot | teammates|damith: I queued you at position 9 in the queue |
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| 15:00.30 | VideoLAN|thresh | !queue |
| 15:00.30 | gsocbot | VideoLAN|thresh: I queued you at position 10 in the queue |
| 15:00.38 | balabit|talien | !queue |
| 15:00.38 | gsocbot | balabit|talien: I queued you at position 11 in the queue |
| 15:00.59 | hedgewars|koda | !queue hedgewars |
| 15:00.59 | gsocbot | hedgewars|koda: I queued you at position 12 in the queue |
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| 15:01.14 | hedgewars|koda | isn't the queue going to be cleared anyway? |
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| 15:01.35 | carols | hedgewars|koda: i believe scorch is clearing it, yes. |
| 15:01.43 | carols | up to him, he is the master of all things today. |
| 15:01.46 | carols | i'm just a bureaucrat. |
| 15:01.47 | lemora|baumanna | !queue |
| 15:01.47 | gsocbot | lemora|baumanna: I queued you at position 13 in the queue |
| 15:02.01 | VideoLAN|thresh | !dequeue |
| 15:02.01 | gsocbot | VideoLAN|thresh: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:02.05 | VideoLAN|thresh | merci |
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| 15:03.10 | hedgewars|nemo | MC scorch |
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| 15:03.57 | VideoLAN|funman | topic too larg? |
| 15:03.59 | VideoLAN|funman | e |
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| 15:05.12 | lovetocode | rgrgr |
| 15:05.21 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> For the IRC rejection feedback meeting, please change your nick to the format {org}|{nick}. You can see the tutorial on queueing yourself for the meeting here: http://goo.gl/ydIt2. Once we have muted the channel for the meeting you will need to PM an op to get voice privileges. |
| 15:05.30 | carols | that better, VideoLAN|funman? |
| 15:05.51 | weltall | yeah :D |
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| 15:06.58 | VideoLAN|funman | carols: thanks! |
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| 15:07.01 | carols | yw |
| 15:07.06 | KolibriOS|yogev | scorche: Sigh. When will the queue be cleared? I came the earliest possible for a reason, since I need to leave shortly after 16:00UTC. After clearing I might end up 50th or something, so I just won't make it :-( |
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| 15:07.42 | carols | KolibriOS|yogev: how about this. i'll just pm you now and we can do feedback and then you don't have to worry about it. |
| 15:07.48 | diadara | !showqueue |
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| 15:08.00 | carols | it's friday, let's not get too stressed out. |
| 15:08.04 | carols | sips some tea |
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| 15:08.09 | VideoLAN|funman | hands scorche a 50฿ banknote to go up in the queue |
| 15:08.16 | KolibriOS|yogev | carols: That would be awesome, I really appreciate it. |
| 15:08.18 | VideoLAN|funman | whistles |
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| 15:08.28 | wxwidgets|VZ | !showqueue |
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| 15:08.53 | hedgewars|koda | carols, i'd have to go at 16.40 too, so i'd really appreciate if we could have a word before :) |
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| 15:09.05 | wxwidgets|VZ | !queue wxWidgets cross-platform C++ GUI library |
| 15:09.06 | gsocbot | wxwidgets|VZ: I queued you at position 14 in the queue |
| 15:09.13 | wxwidgets|VZ | !showqueue |
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| 15:10.35 | haiku|umcculloug | !queue Just here to listen |
| 15:10.35 | gsocbot | haiku|umcculloug: I queued you at position 15 in the queue |
| 15:10.36 | carols | hedgewars|koda: didn't your org email me for feedback? |
| 15:10.56 | hedgewars|nemo | VideoLAN|funman: 50Ƀ - whew. might as well just use that to fund a student :D |
| 15:11.43 | VideoLAN|funman | hedgewars|nemo: to be fair it was the thaï baht symbol, not worth much for a student :) |
| 15:12.00 | VideoLAN|funman | !showqueue |
| 15:12.13 | hedgewars|koda | carols, i think it mailed to pledge for some last minute slots but not for the rejection reasons |
| 15:12.39 | Compn | is that B for bitcoin ? |
| 15:12.47 | Compn | VideoLAN|funman |
| 15:12.52 | diadara | why was no. of allowed proposals cut from 20 to 5 ,I dont think many would have applied for more than 5 last year |
| 15:12.56 | Compn | cant tell, characters are messed up here |
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| 15:13.08 | gevaerts | Compn: I recommend reading what he said later |
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| 15:13.37 | Compn | oh baht, dont know that one |
| 15:13.40 | carols | hedgewars|koda: you spoke to memo, yes? i have an email from memo titled "dealing with rejection" |
| 15:13.41 | hedgewars|nemo | VideoLAN|funman: yeah, that's why I try to use Ƀ these days as was proposed recently :) you know. so poor Thai don't get their symbol taken over |
| 15:13.46 | carols | sorry, *nemo |
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| 15:14.34 | KolibriOS|yogev | !dequeue |
| 15:14.35 | gsocbot | KolibriOS|yogev: Removed you from the queue as requested |
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| 15:14.59 | VideoLAN|funman | Compn: well yeah it was really baht but meant as bitcoin |
| 15:15.05 | carols | hedgewars|koda and hedgewars|nemo, are you two talking to each other? |
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| 15:15.17 | carols | because i thought you had resolved in email :-) |
| 15:15.21 | carols | is there more to know? |
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| 15:15.49 | hedgewars|nemo | carols: well. I'd asked a secondary question in the e-mail about hosting. that didn't really answer primary "why" question |
| 15:15.53 | hedgewars|nemo | which is I imagine why koda is here today |
| 15:15.55 | hedgewars|koda | carols, yes we are, but there is a particular subject i'd like to ask you about |
| 15:16.03 | carols | sure, then pm me. |
| 15:16.11 | carols | sips some more tea |
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| 15:20.27 | teammates|damith | !showqueue |
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| 15:20.49 | hedgewars|nemo | Compn: you should probably set UTF-8 in your IRC client btw. Pretty much standard these days |
| 15:21.21 | Compn | probably |
| 15:21.45 | ahuillet | hello - one has to !queue to get in the queue, right? |
| 15:21.58 | carols | ahuillet: please ask scorche :-) |
| 15:22.03 | carols | master of all things today. |
| 15:22.06 | carols | except for typing. |
| 15:22.10 | carols | which i am flexing my muscles at now. |
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| 15:22.29 | scorche|sh | i will be resetting the queue 30 minutes before the meeting |
| 15:22.33 | scorche|sh | so, in about 8 minutes |
| 15:23.20 | ahuillet | so in about 8 minutes, we have to do !queue, but not before, is that it? |
| 15:23.23 | tierra | wxwidgets|VZ: so you'll handle this? |
| 15:23.41 | Compn | carols : you arent using voice to text ? |
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| 15:23.52 | carols | Compn: nope! |
| 15:23.53 | Compn | google should be on that by now, voice2text irc |
| 15:23.55 | carols | all keys and hands here. |
| 15:24.31 | scorche|sh | ahuillet: actually, the instructions are a bit different than currently in topic - !queue will queue you, but we ask that you include certain information in the message - as well, the channel will be muted once the meeting begins, so you will need to send a PM to gsocbot |
| 15:24.42 | hedgewars|nemo | Compn: you know, my SO's job experimented w/ that, and the need to enunciate clearly even in the best software out there, plus the subtle homophone errors meant it was still faster to type :) |
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| 15:25.20 | ahuillet | scorche|sh : this is getting somewhat complicated, I guess you'll update the topic because I must not be the only person to be confused. |
| 15:25.42 | scorche|sh | yes - the topic will make all things clear =) |
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| 15:26.11 | carols | i made the topic this morning when i hadn't had coffee, so i probably make scorche's life harder. |
| 15:26.17 | scorche|sh | its alright |
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| 15:26.28 | scorche|sh | ahuillet: does this make things clearer for you? |
| 15:26.31 | scorche|sh | The feedback session for organizations is about to be held. If you are an organization that wishes to participate, please send the following command (replacing the necessary information) to place yourself in the queue: /msg gsocbot NameOfOrg http://LinkToIdeasPage.org | To see the current queue, please see http://kblin.org/queue.txt |
| 15:26.47 | ahuillet | perfect! |
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| 15:27.18 | scorche|sh | not to anyone else, please do not queue up for now |
| 15:27.26 | scorche|sh | note, that is ;) |
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| 15:27.45 | phillipuniverse | am I late to the rejection discussion meeting? |
| 15:27.48 | phillipuniverse | **too late |
| 15:27.54 | scorche|sh | phillipuniverse: it hasnt yet begun! |
| 15:27.54 | gevaerts | And if you're just here to listen, do not place yourself in the queue :) |
| 15:27.55 | carols | phillipuniverse: in fact, you are a half hour early. |
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| 15:28.04 | phillipuniverse | great! |
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| 15:28.39 | lemora|baumanna | !queue lemora project |
| 15:28.40 | gsocbot | lemora|baumanna: You're queued at position 10 already, I've updated notice to 'lemora project' |
| 15:28.58 | phillipuniverse | !queue phillipuniverse project |
| 15:28.59 | gsocbot | phillipuniverse: I queued you at position 16 in the queue |
| 15:29.07 | phillipuniverse | I assume I need to queue myself? |
| 15:29.14 | scorche | the queue will be reset very soon |
| 15:29.20 | gevaerts | phillipuniverse: yes, but not yet :) |
| 15:29.29 | phillipuniverse | cool cool |
| 15:29.42 | ahuillet | are there any statistics about number of accepted orgs, number of orgs having applied, veteran vs. new, that sort of thing? |
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| 15:30.18 | Halino | how to get in queue? |
| 15:30.30 | carols | Halino: i think scorche can help you. |
| 15:30.38 | scorche|sh | clearing the queue now... |
| 15:30.42 | ensonic | hmm, if I submitted for two orgs, should I login twice? |
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| 15:30.46 | carols | xpra|ahuillet: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/04/mentoring-organizations-for-google.html |
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| 15:31.02 | carols | ensonic: just once is fine. i can give you feedback for both in the same time. |
| 15:31.11 | carols | you don't have to get in line again. |
| 15:31.16 | carols | we're not that bureaucratic. |
| 15:31.29 | gstreamer|ensoni | carols, thanks |
| 15:31.35 | carols | gstreamer|ensoni: yw |
| 15:31.45 | lemora|baumanna | !queue lemora |
| 15:31.45 | gsocbot | lemora|baumanna: I queued you at position 5 in the queue |
| 15:31.53 | MATE|stefano-k | !queue MATE Desktop Environment |
| 15:31.54 | gsocbot | MATE|stefano-k: I queued you at position 6 in the queue |
| 15:32.02 | tcl|aku_ | !queue tcl http://wiki.tcl.tk/36464 |
| 15:32.02 | gsocbot | tcl|aku_: I queued you at position 7 in the queue |
| 15:32.14 | elena | Can one tell me if I am in line or not? |
| 15:32.16 | darcs|gh | !queue darcs |
| 15:32.17 | scorche|sh | Please stop queueing yourselves |
| 15:32.17 | gsocbot | darcs|gh: I queued you at position 8 in the queue |
| 15:32.20 | *** mode/#gsoc [+m] by scorche|sh |
| 15:32.21 | kai | !unload Queue |
| 15:32.21 | gsocbot | kai: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:32.23 | gstreamer|ensoni | !queue gstreamer |
| 15:32.34 | scorche|sh | kai: oh - that makes thing easier - gsocbot is ignoring me for now =) |
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| 15:32.56 | *** topic/#gsoc by scorche|sh -> The feedback session for organizations is about to be held. If you are an organization that wishes to participate, please send the following command (replacing the necessary information) to place yourself in the queue: /msg gsocbot NameOfOrg http://LinkToIdeasPage.org | To see the current queue, please see http://kblin.org/queue.txt | To dequeue yourself: /msg gsocbot dequeue |
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| 15:33.40 | kai | scorche|sh: the nextinline command wasn't working? |
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| 15:33.55 | scorche|sh | <gsocbot> You've given me 12 commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 5 minutes. |
| 15:34.00 | kai | ah |
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| 15:34.06 | scorche|sh | luckily, i have 2 clients |
| 15:34.10 | kai | :) |
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| 15:34.16 | carols | ha! |
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| 15:34.20 | carols | silly gsocbot. |
| 15:34.22 | carols | getting tired. |
| 15:34.32 | scorche|sh | kai: can you reload the queue module? |
| 15:34.37 | kai | I wasn't aware it had a spam protection |
| 15:34.41 | kai | !load Queue |
| 15:34.42 | gsocbot | kai: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:34.48 | kai | there you go, sir |
| 15:35.03 | carols | serves everyone waiting in the wings some tea and coffee while they wait |
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| 15:35.19 | carols | we'll be starting in 25 minutes by my watch. |
| 15:35.22 | scorche|sh | Everyone - please start queueing up |
| 15:35.28 | scorche|sh | the instructions are in the topic |
| 15:35.32 | scorche|sh | PM me if you are haivng issues |
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| 15:35.47 | carols | and do what scorche|sh says. |
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| 15:38.07 | *** topic/#gsoc by scorche -> The feedback session for organizations is about to be held. If you are an organization that wishes to participate, please send the following command (replacing the necessary information) to place yourself in the queue: /msg gsocbot queue NameOfOrg http://LinkToIdeasPage.org | To see the current queue, please see http://kblin.org/queue.txt | To dequeue yourself: /msg gsocbot dequeue |
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| 15:38.28 | scorche|sh | whoops - sorry aboout the instruction mess-up - "queue" needs to be in that command |
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| 15:39.05 | carols | i'll get to everyone, so it's no problem if there are queue issues. |
| 15:39.13 | carols | i will be here until everyone has had their turn :-) |
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| 15:39.21 | carols | so don't worry, and have some more tea. |
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| 15:39.25 | kai | !this cookie | carols |
| 15:39.26 | gsocbot | carols: "this cookie" is for you |
| 15:39.31 | carols | thanks kai :-) |
| 15:39.35 | carols | much appreciated. |
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| 15:47.02 | carols | in case you're just joining us, we're starting the irc feedback meeting for rejected orgs in about 15 minutes. |
| 15:47.28 | carols | we've muted the channel. if you're having trouble please PM scorche or read the channel topic again :-) |
| 15:47.44 | carols | but regardless, i will be here for as long as it takes to get through our whole queue |
| 15:47.49 | carols | last year it was about 3 hours. |
| 15:47.56 | carols | so, get some more tea. :-) |
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| 15:53.48 | carols | hi everyone, we're going to start the irc feedback meeting in 7 minutes. |
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| 15:54.16 | carols | we've muted the channel, so if you're not here for the meeting and you're just looking to ask questions about gsoc, i would recommend you email our discussion list instead. |
| 15:54.24 | carols | or wait three hours to ask your question :-) |
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| 15:58.55 | carols | alright, we're starting in 2 minutes |
| 15:59.15 | webchick | Hey, folks. :) |
| 15:59.38 | carols | hi webchick |
| 15:59.45 | carols | we're having an irc meeting in a minute |
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| 16:00.10 | carols | ok, i have 16:00 UTC by my watch. |
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| 16:00.15 | carols | so i'm going to start the meeting. |
| 16:00.29 | carols | =========Begin IRC Rejected Organizations Feedback Meeting====== |
| 16:00.33 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v minix3|beng-nl] by scorche|sh |
| 16:00.33 | carols | thanks everyone for coming. |
| 16:00.37 | carols | a few announcements: |
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| 16:01.00 | carols | 1) Please PM scorche for any problems related to the queue or to getting voiced/devoiced. |
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| 16:01.24 | carols | 2) the channel is muted, and only ops can grant you voice, so you'll need to PM them when your turn comes up if you haven't gotten voiced. |
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| 16:01.52 | carols | we're of course sorry that every year we have to reject a lot of organizations we would have loved to accept. |
| 16:01.56 | carols | this year was no exception. |
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| 16:02.12 | webchick | Huh. Not sure what happened there. |
| 16:02.17 | webchick | Wow, I still have ops in here. :D |
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| 16:02.30 | carols | we had a lot of applications, a lot of hard decisions, and we particularly were aggressive about rejected orgs that had participated before |
| 16:02.45 | carols | so, please have your ideas page ready when you are called from the queue. |
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| 16:02.55 | webchick | Hm. Why am I getting kicked? :( |
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| 16:03.00 | scorche|sh | webchick: meeting now |
| 16:03.01 | carols | i will be here as long as needed to get everyone through the queue. |
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| 16:03.04 | scorche|sh | i will PM her |
| 16:03.11 | carols | so |
| 16:03.20 | carols | with that, our first org. |
| 16:03.25 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:03.25 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is minix3|beng-nl with notice 'minix3 http://www.minix3.org/soc-2013/ - i am here for the rejection feedback meeting on behalf of minix3' |
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| 16:03.29 | carols | minix folks. |
| 16:03.52 | minix3|beng-nl | hello carols! |
| 16:03.59 | carols | hi minix3|beng-nl! |
| 16:04.03 | minix3|beng-nl | it's us, the minix folks :) |
| 16:04.08 | carols | awesome |
| 16:04.11 | carols | let me pull up my notes |
| 16:04.13 | minix3|beng-nl | okay |
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| 16:04.38 | minix3|beng-nl | i guess my question is whether we can improve on our application / ideas page in any way in order to improve our chances in the future |
| 16:04.44 | carols | so, firstly, we had a *ton* of OSes apply this year. |
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| 16:05.12 | carols | and we were very careful about 1) making sure we had breadth in types of orgs this year and 2) making sure we got a lot of new orgs. |
| 16:05.39 | carols | and so you guys have participated in the past quite a bit, which is great, but we needed to make some space for folks who hadn't participated this year. |
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| 16:05.52 | carols | looking over your ideas page, it looks great. |
| 16:06.04 | carols | so this was a matter of numbers this year, minix3|beng-nl. |
| 16:06.08 | minix3|beng-nl | okay, it is very good to hear that you like our ideas page |
| 16:06.14 | minix|arun | thanks a lot, carols |
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| 16:06.19 | carols | yep, application looked good. |
| 16:06.22 | minix3|beng-nl | anything noteworthy w.r.t. our application?.. |
| 16:06.24 | minix|arun | we'll try again next year. |
| 16:06.36 | minix3|beng-nl | okay |
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| 16:06.55 | carols | i suppose you could have fleshed out the ideas page with some possible mentors. |
| 16:07.03 | minix3|beng-nl | aha, that is a good tip! |
| 16:07.12 | carols | but really, this was more about us making decisions for the whole of the program. |
| 16:07.18 | minix3|beng-nl | to improve the confidence of it being mentored well i suppose |
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| 16:07.25 | carols | hope that helps. :-) |
| 16:07.35 | minix3|beng-nl | okay, i understand, it's something of a relief that there wasn't something especially wrong with us this year |
| 16:07.38 | minix|arun | it does. thanks again, carols |
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| 16:07.43 | carols | great, you're welcome. |
| 16:07.49 | carols | hope you all have a nice rest of your summer. |
| 16:07.54 | minix3|beng-nl | thank you very much for your time, i hope to be able to try again next year |
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| 16:08.00 | carols | cool :-) |
| 16:08.05 | carols | alright, onward! |
| 16:08.06 | minix3|beng-nl | you too carols! thanks. |
| 16:08.07 | minix3|beng-nl | alright. |
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| 16:08.13 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:08.13 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is scorche|sh with notice 'rockbox http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2013' |
| 16:08.19 | carols | rockbox folks. |
| 16:08.21 | scorche|sh | hi =) |
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| 16:08.52 | carols | hi scorche :-) |
| 16:09.02 | carols | so a few things on rock box. |
| 16:09.10 | carols | we liked the ideas page a lot. |
| 16:09.39 | carols | actually, application overall looks good. |
| 16:09.42 | scorche|sh | great! |
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| 16:10.17 | carols | but again, we were really aggressive in accepting new orgs this year and rejecting old ones. |
| 16:10.27 | carols | and i think you guys fell victim to this, unfortunately. |
| 16:10.29 | scorche|sh | completely understandable |
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| 16:11.02 | carols | i would encourage you guys to apply if we have the program next year. |
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| 16:11.20 | carols | we just made some difficult cuts, as we do every year, really :-( |
| 16:11.45 | scorche|sh | nods |
| 16:11.50 | carols | sorry my answer probably isn't more satisfying. |
| 16:11.55 | scorche|sh | it happens |
| 16:12.13 | carols | any particular questions i can answer? |
| 16:12.24 | carols | again, looking over your app, it all looks very thorough. |
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| 16:12.25 | scorche|sh | not really - this was more a closure thing =) |
| 16:12.30 | carols | of course :-) |
| 16:12.36 | carols | well, thank you guys for applying anyway. |
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| 16:12.46 | scorche|sh | thanks for the feedback! - you may continue with the next org =) |
| 16:13.00 | carols | awesome. |
| 16:13.03 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:13.04 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is tcl|aku_ with notice 'tcl http://wiki.tcl.tk/36464' |
| 16:13.15 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v tcl|aku_] by scorche|sh |
| 16:13.16 | carols | tcl folks. |
| 16:13.18 | tcl|aku_ | hi carols, present and listening |
| 16:13.25 | carols | let me pull up our notes :-) |
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| 16:13.28 | tcl|aku_ | sure |
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| 16:14.08 | carols | really liked your ideas page. |
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| 16:14.20 | tcl|aku_ | glad to hear that |
| 16:14.32 | carols | some of them were more fleshed out than others, but that's understandable.. |
| 16:14.33 | tcl|aku_ | Worked quite a bit on that since last year |
| 16:15.03 | carols | from the notes it looks like we cut you guys when we were making decisions about how many new orgs to accept. |
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| 16:15.11 | tcl|aku_ | I see |
| 16:15.17 | carols | so i think i have similar feedback for you all that i did for rockbox :-( |
| 16:15.29 | tcl|aku_ | that's ok. |
| 16:15.38 | carols | you had participated in the past, and we made some hard decisions :-( |
| 16:15.40 | tcl|aku_ | luck of the draw and all that. |
| 16:15.45 | carols | yeah, i'm sorry. |
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| 16:15.57 | carols | i do hope you'll apply again next year if you choose to. |
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| 16:16.05 | tcl|aku_ | me too, me too. and yes, we plan to apply again |
| 16:16.12 | carols | looks like you guys have had some good participation in the past :-) |
| 16:16.19 | tcl|aku_ | yes |
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| 16:16.31 | carols | let me just take a quick look at the app and see if there's anything else |
| 16:16.42 | tcl|aku_ | ok. hit me |
| 16:17.22 | carols | nope, all looks good to me. i appreciate your ideas for getting students to get inolvd in the community tying into getting students to stay afterward. |
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| 16:17.27 | carols | so looks good |
| 16:17.34 | carols | sorry, this was another hard choice :-( |
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| 16:17.49 | tcl|aku_ | ok, glad to hear about that too (not the hard choice, the app being good ;) |
| 16:17.55 | carols | indeed |
| 16:18.00 | carols | any other questions? |
| 16:18.06 | tcl|aku_ | at the moment, no. |
| 16:18.10 | carols | ok, great. |
| 16:18.13 | tcl|aku_ | If I come up with some I will email |
| 16:18.18 | tcl|aku_ | thanks |
| 16:18.20 | carols | great, please do. |
| 16:18.23 | carols | have a nice weekend. |
| 16:18.29 | tcl|aku_ | you too |
| 16:18.29 | carols | alright |
| 16:18.32 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:18.33 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is helenos|vhotspur with notice 'helenos http://trac.helenos.org/report/19' |
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| 16:18.39 | carols | helenos folks |
| 16:18.44 | helenos|vhotspur | hi, Carol |
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| 16:18.47 | carols | hi |
| 16:18.53 | carols | just a sec while i look everything over |
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| 16:19.33 | carols | so did i mention that we got a *ton* of OSes applying this year? |
| 16:19.37 | carols | yeah, we got a ton. |
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| 16:19.56 | helenos|vhotspur | I know we weren't the only ones |
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| 16:20.27 | carols | yeah, looking over your ideas page and app those all look good. |
| 16:20.34 | helenos|vhotspur | glad to hear that |
| 16:20.53 | carols | we try really hard to get a wide range of projects, and i think you guys applied in a year when everyone else wanted to have an OS project too :-/ |
| 16:20.56 | helenos|vhotspur | do you have suggestions how to make them better? |
| 16:21.08 | helenos|vhotspur | okay, understood |
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| 16:21.25 | carols | no, actually, i think your ideas page is quite good. |
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| 16:21.35 | helenos|vhotspur | nd one more question - last year we failed 3 students (out of 5), one of them even asked for review (though our decision was confirmed) - was this taken as a failure on our part as well and did this influenced that we were not accepted this year? |
| 16:21.41 | carols | i like that you have it broken down with required skills and possible mentors and all that. |
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| 16:21.46 | carols | helenos|vhotspur: no, it was not. |
| 16:21.54 | helenos|vhotspur | good, thanks |
| 16:22.04 | carols | there have been cases where we got poor feedback from the students about the org. |
| 16:22.08 | carols | this was not a case of that. |
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| 16:22.13 | helenos|vhotspur | okay |
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| 16:22.33 | helenos|vhotspur | so, there was basically just too many os teams around, right? |
| 16:22.33 | carols | i'd encourage you to apply again next year if we run the program |
| 16:22.38 | carols | yeah, pretty much. |
| 16:22.39 | helenos|vhotspur | we plan to |
| 16:22.45 | helenos|vhotspur | okay, that's it |
| 16:22.50 | helenos|vhotspur | thanks a lot for your time |
| 16:22.53 | carols | again, we have to do a lot of balancing amongst *types* of projects as well as who they are. |
| 16:22.55 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 16:23.00 | carols | have a great weekend. |
| 16:23.02 | helenos|vhotspur | you too |
| 16:23.07 | carols | alright |
| 16:23.08 | helenos|vhotspur | bye |
| 16:23.11 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:23.11 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is Ninux|Halino with notice 'Ninux.org http://wiki.ninux.org/GSoCIdeas2013' |
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| 16:23.15 | carols | ninux |
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| 16:23.27 | Ninux|Halino | hi carols |
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| 16:23.34 | carols | hey there |
| 16:23.36 | Ninux|Immanuel | hi |
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| 16:24.14 | carols | so i think the first thing is that your ideas page is good, but not great. |
| 16:24.31 | carols | for example, we'd like to see required skills for some of the ideas more fleshed out. |
| 16:24.31 | Ninux|Halino | any suggestion? |
| 16:24.36 | carols | and possible mentors listed. |
| 16:24.42 | carols | (from your community) |
| 16:24.56 | carols | you've definitely got the right idea, but this was some stiff competition you were up against this year. |
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| 16:25.24 | carols | some of them are better than others, i would say. |
| 16:25.33 | carols | some have required languages and that sort of thing, but not all. |
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| 16:26.29 | carols | if i remember correctly i feel like your ideas page last year was a bit more extensive? |
| 16:26.51 | carols | anyway, regardless, we were making a lot of hard decisions this year :-( |
| 16:26.53 | Ninux|Halino | yes, it was a bit more extensive |
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| 16:27.11 | Ninux|Halino | this year we proposed more ideas |
| 16:27.16 | carols | alright, then i think that's really the crux of it. your application otherwise looks good. |
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| 16:27.29 | carols | i hope that helps. |
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| 16:27.56 | carols | any further questions? |
| 16:28.00 | Ninux|Halino | yes |
| 16:28.05 | carols | sure :-) |
| 16:28.18 | Ninux|Halino | we have friend from freifunk and other wireless community like guifi |
| 16:28.23 | carols | ok... |
| 16:28.25 | Ninux|Halino | but no one was accepted |
| 16:28.38 | Ninux|Halino | we didn't found any wireless community at all |
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| 16:28.47 | Ninux|Halino | it's a coincidence? |
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| 16:28.54 | carols | i believe so. |
| 16:29.04 | carols | i'd need to look at their applications individually, but yes, i think so. |
| 16:29.12 | carols | also, freifunk has participated in the past, i believe? |
| 16:29.18 | Ninux|Halino | yes |
| 16:29.19 | Ninux|Halino | last year |
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| 16:29.24 | Ninux|Halino | i was a student |
| 16:29.28 | carols | if i remember correctly, we again were making space for new orgs this year. |
| 16:29.29 | Ninux|Halino | with them |
| 16:29.37 | carols | ah, cool :-) |
| 16:29.57 | carols | anyway, you all can email me offline if you'd like to talk about it more extensively? |
| 16:29.59 | Ninux|Halino | there is a close partnership between ninux and freifunk |
| 16:30.03 | Ninux|Halino | ok |
| 16:30.05 | carols | cool |
| 16:30.07 | Ninux|Halino | i will email you |
| 16:30.28 | carols | great, thanks :-) |
| 16:30.33 | carols | have a nice rest of your weekend |
| 16:30.44 | Ninux|Halino | thx, you ti |
| 16:30.45 | Ninux|Halino | too |
| 16:30.50 | carols | alright |
| 16:30.53 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:30.54 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is gc3|riccardomurr with notice 'gc3 http://code.google.com/p/gc3pie/wiki/GSoCIdeas' |
| 16:30.54 | Ninux|Immanuel | bye |
| 16:30.58 | scorche | As a quick note between projects, as a lot of people have been asking...if you would like additional people voiced besides who queued up (and I dont voice them), please just ask me in-channel when I voice you |
| 16:30.59 | carols | gc3 folks |
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| 16:31.08 | gc3|riccardomurr | hi |
| 16:31.10 | carols | thanks scorche |
| 16:31.12 | carols | hey there |
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| 16:31.32 | gc3|riccardomurr | hello, there's just me -- the other already left for the weekend :-) |
| 16:31.42 | carols | ok :-) |
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| 16:32.02 | carols | so looking over your ideas page first... |
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| 16:32.13 | carols | we'd have liked some more extensive information on each |
| 16:32.27 | carols | namely, not just a summary of the idea, but also required languages and skills for each one |
| 16:32.33 | carols | maybe use cases or background on the idea |
| 16:32.42 | carols | and then possible mentors from your community for the idea |
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| 16:33.21 | carols | your group seems to be a little specific, which is fine, :-) but it means you need to make your ideas page easier to "bite into" for students who don't know anything about you. |
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| 16:34.01 | gc3|riccardomurr | i see -- would it still be acceptable to require more prerequisites? |
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| 16:34.23 | carols | yes, requiring prerequisites is fine. |
| 16:34.30 | gc3|riccardomurr | since the project is quite specific, as you said, it's not for everybody probably |
| 16:34.36 | carols | just make all of that very clear and fleshed out from the get-go |
| 16:34.45 | carols | also, just as a side note: |
| 16:35.19 | carols | this didn't work against you, but if you spent the next year getting to know an org that's participating in the program and/or working with them, you could see if they'd be willing to vouch for your org next year. |
| 16:35.25 | carols | which might help you, well, at least a little :-) |
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| 16:35.39 | carols | but our decision this year was primarily based on your ideas page. |
| 16:35.44 | carols | i hope that helps. |
| 16:35.59 | gc3|riccardomurr | yes, it does -- thanks! |
| 16:36.03 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 16:36.06 | carols | any other questions for me? |
| 16:36.07 | gc3|riccardomurr | any further feedback? |
| 16:36.22 | carols | not that i can see. the rest of your application looks good. |
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| 16:36.36 | gc3|riccardomurr | ok, thank you very much for your time |
| 16:36.37 | carols | i'd encourage you to apply again next year if we run the program :-) |
| 16:36.40 | carols | you're welcome |
| 16:36.45 | carols | have a nice summer/winter |
| 16:36.51 | carols | alrighty then |
| 16:36.53 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:36.53 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is xpra|ahuillet with notice 'Xpra https://www.xpra.org/trac/wiki/ProjectIdeas' |
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| 16:37.01 | carols | xpra folks |
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| 16:37.09 | xpra|ahuillet | hello hello |
| 16:37.15 | xpra|totaam | hi |
| 16:37.41 | carols | hey there folks |
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| 16:37.50 | carols | so firstly, your ideas page looks great, thanks for that :-) |
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| 16:39.12 | carols | secondly, you'll see we accepted x.org this year. it looks when we were discussing the tough decisions for this year, we thought maybe you all would be willing to work with x.org as an umbrella situation? |
| 16:39.36 | xpra|totaam | yes, that would work for us |
| 16:39.37 | carols | i don't know if that would work for your team, but we did consider both applications and hoped you might be able to get some slots through them if you could work it out. |
| 16:39.38 | xpra|ahuillet | that's definitely a possibility, although I did not notice X.org as being accepted, so haven't contacted them yet |
| 16:39.48 | carols | yes, they were accepted. |
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| 16:40.03 | xpra|totaam | how would we proceed? |
| 16:40.03 | carols | unfortunately, given our constraints, we couldn't really accommodate both of you :-( |
| 16:40.09 | xpra|ahuillet | I've got some relationships with X.org so I think it's feasible indeed. The fact that we're a project *not* from the X community means that we applied separately. |
| 16:40.19 | xpra|ahuillet | but we've had in mind of getting closer to them for months. |
| 16:40.20 | carols | so firstly, please email them and mention this conversation :-) |
| 16:40.34 | xpra|totaam | ok, will do |
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| 16:40.36 | carols | and if they'e amenable, please have them list your org as well on their ideas page/homepage |
| 16:40.38 | xpra|ahuillet | will you please let me know who the X.org org admin is this year? |
| 16:40.47 | carols | and we'll make sure that in slot allocations we allow for both orgs. |
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| 16:40.53 | carols | yeah, i'll pm it to you. |
| 16:40.57 | carols | hold on just a sec. |
| 16:41.54 | carols | other than that, your application looks good. |
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| 16:42.06 | xpra|ahuillet | so that leaves us with only one question: would you advise us to apply again if GSoC 2014 takes place? |
| 16:42.07 | carols | i hope we can accommodate you through them somehow. |
| 16:42.15 | carols | yes, absolutely. |
| 16:42.22 | xpra|ahuillet | thanks! |
| 16:42.29 | xpra|totaam | thanks |
| 16:42.30 | carols | we never know what the makeup of the apps will be, so we make these different decisions every year. |
| 16:42.34 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 16:42.39 | carols | have a nice weekend, let me know how it goes. |
| 16:42.46 | xpra|totaam | you too, bye |
| 16:42.49 | carols | alrighty then |
| 16:42.52 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:42.52 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is wxwidgets|VZ with notice 'wxWidgets http://www.wxwidgets.org/gsoc/2013/' |
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| 16:42.55 | carols | wxwidgets |
| 16:42.59 | wxwidgets|VZ | hi Carol |
| 16:43.03 | wxwidgets|tierra | thanks scorche and carols |
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| 16:43.33 | carols | alright, so my feedback page says our main complaint was with regard to your ideas page this year. |
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| 16:43.57 | wxwidgets|VZ | ah, that's disappointing... we worked hard to improve it since the last year |
| 16:44.04 | wxwidgets|tierra | interesting, we were curious about that as we moved it off the wiki this year and into a little more easier to follow page |
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| 16:44.21 | carols | i'm fine with the *number* of ideas, since you are a bit smaller, but i really would have liked possible mentors, background information on the ideas (maybe use cases?) and then a more fleshed out summary |
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| 16:44.42 | carols | oh, and level of the expertise required for the idea |
| 16:44.53 | wxwidgets|VZ | err, just to be sure: did you follow up the ideas links? |
| 16:45.02 | wxwidgets|VZ | i.e. the page at http://www.wxwidgets.org/gsoc/2013/ is not all that we have |
| 16:45.21 | wxwidgets|VZ | e.g. the first idea (wxAndroid) links to http://www.wxwidgets.org/gsoc/projects/android/ and so on |
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| 16:45.32 | carols | yeah, i mean, some are better than others :-) |
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| 16:45.44 | carols | but overall, it's sort of a B- to us . |
| 16:45.54 | carols | it is easy to follow, i don't have a problem with the format |
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| 16:46.21 | carols | also, no reason not to just put it on one page btw :-) |
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| 16:46.26 | wxwidgets|VZ | I understood the mentors part but I'm a bit puzzled by the rest -- what could we provide there, could you perhaps give some (even made up) example? |
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| 16:46.57 | carols | sure |
| 16:47.00 | carols | how about this one: http://www.wxwidgets.org/gsoc/projects/filesystem/ |
| 16:47.04 | wxwidgets|VZ | OK, we didn't want to overwhelm people so we tried to organize it better... again, pity that apparently it worked against us |
| 16:47.20 | carols | you've got two question marks for difficulty and importance. and no "see also" |
| 16:47.25 | carols | fair enough, maybe it didn't need any |
| 16:47.36 | carols | but as i said, some are better than others :-) |
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| 16:48.04 | wxwidgets|tierra | I just had one question |
| 16:48.07 | carols | sure |
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| 16:48.10 | wxwidgets|VZ | so would it be better to have less ideas and not put those that we're not 100% sure about, like this one? |
| 16:48.19 | wxwidgets|tierra | mainly how it may have reflected against our rejection last year as well |
| 16:48.37 | carols | well, how about this for next year. if you have some ideas that are not well-fleshed out, put them in another section. |
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| 16:48.59 | wxwidgets|tierra | that sounds like a good idea |
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| 16:49.08 | carols | have two sections: things that are easy to understand and start, and then things that we think we want to do but are looking for a good student to be able to envision |
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| 16:49.29 | carols | we're happy to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this page looks like you spent some time on it and then walked away from it. |
| 16:49.43 | carols | at least, that's what it looks like when you've read 417 proposals :-) |
| 16:49.48 | wxwidgets|VZ | I see |
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| 16:50.18 | wxwidgets|VZ | we did spend quite a lot of time on this but mostly trying to flesh out the important (for us) proposals, we didn't know that even the last one could count against us |
| 16:50.21 | wxwidgets|VZ | live and learn |
| 16:50.26 | wxwidgets|VZ | we'll fix this the next year |
| 16:50.30 | carols | yeah, i'm sorry about that :-( |
| 16:50.40 | carols | of course. i do hope you'll apply again next year. |
| 16:50.52 | wxwidgets|VZ | it's just really unexpected because I thought our ideas page this year was many times better than during the years when we were accepted :-/ |
| 16:51.02 | wxwidgets|VZ | anyhow, thanks for the feedback |
| 16:51.06 | wxwidgets|VZ | do you have any other remarks? |
| 16:51.09 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 16:51.11 | wxwidgets|VZ | e.g. about our application or anything? |
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| 16:51.25 | carols | looking over the rest of the app it looks fine. |
| 16:51.40 | carols | the feedback i have is about the ideas page. |
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| 16:52.00 | carols | any other questions? |
| 16:52.00 | wxwidgets|tierra | alright, thanks carols |
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| 16:52.09 | wxwidgets|VZ | thank you and have a good GSoC! |
| 16:52.09 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 16:52.18 | carols | hope you have a nice summer/winter |
| 16:52.20 | carols | alright |
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| 16:52.23 | wxwidgets|tierra | you too |
| 16:52.23 | carols | !nextinline |
| 16:52.23 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is VideoLAN|feepk with notice 'VLC Team at VideoLAN http://wiki.videolan.org/SoC_2013' |
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| 16:52.27 | carols | vlc folks |
| 16:52.32 | VideoLAN|feepk | hello :) |
| 16:52.36 | VideoLAN|thresh | hey there |
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| 16:52.44 | VideoLAN|funman | hi |
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| 16:52.49 | carols | hi there |
| 16:53.16 | carols | who from the org should i PM if i need to give feedback in private? |
| 16:53.22 | VideoLAN|feepk | me, please |
| 16:53.26 | VideoLAN|feepk | since I sent the application |
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| 16:53.55 | VideoLAN|feepk | do you have any generic feedback on our ideas page or the application? |
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| 16:56.19 | VideoLAN|funman | my question is also related to other applications: which method did you use to reject projects having participated previously, to make room for new projects? |
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| 16:58.54 | carols | we use the complex method of balancing a percentage of new orgs vs. old orgs, orgs with good ideas pages vs. great ones, orgs in a wide variety of spheres to give the students the most options for different kinds of projects, and then feedback from students about veteran orgs, etc etc. |
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| 16:59.34 | carols | it's not science, really, it's art. |
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| 16:59.53 | VideoLAN|thresh | is there a reserved percentage for some kinds of applicants, like OS, web frameworks, languages, multimedia? |
| 17:00.01 | carols | reserved? no. |
| 17:00.11 | VideoLAN|thresh | I mean, it's kinda weird to see almost noone from multimedia world this year in SoC. |
| 17:00.24 | carols | we just have to make sure we have a bit from all the buckets (assuming we have the applications) and then not too many of any |
| 17:00.29 | carols | indeed. |
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| 17:00.43 | carols | any further questions? |
| 17:01.17 | VideoLAN|funman | is the # of available slots for projects going to increase next year? |
| 17:01.20 | VideoLAN|thresh | I'd like to know why we were rejected and how to improve, but I guess feepk has the answer already |
| 17:01.32 | carols | number of available slots per project? |
| 17:01.32 | VideoLAN|feepk | VideoLAN|thresh: correct, yes |
| 17:01.46 | carols | do you mean slots for accepted orgs, or the space we have for total number of orgs? |
| 17:01.46 | VideoLAN|funman | carols: no, number of organisations |
| 17:01.50 | carols | ah |
| 17:01.55 | carols | i don't know :-) |
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| 17:02.03 | VideoLAN|funman | cool |
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| 17:02.06 | carols | we haven't set the budget for the program, nor have we decided to do it |
| 17:02.11 | carols | so i have no idea. |
| 17:02.12 | VideoLAN|funman | thank you, have a pony: https://lh3.ggpht.com/-pK36bkyGW5k/T8vf3iUdFlI/AAAAAAAAsGM/uDT7ABT3MKA/s1600/my_little_vlc_by_parallaxmlp-d529a61.png |
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| 17:02.23 | carols | thanks very much |
| 17:02.27 | carols | hope you all have a good weekend |
| 17:02.31 | VideoLAN|feepk | carols: thanks a lot for your time! |
| 17:02.36 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:02.40 | carols | alright |
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| 17:02.42 | carols | !nextinline |
| 17:02.43 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is darcs|gh with notice 'darcs http://darcs.net/GSoC' |
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| 17:02.47 | carols | darcs folks |
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| 17:02.58 | darcs|gh | hi carols, how do you do? |
| 17:03.04 | carols | good thanks. |
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| 17:03.34 | carols | so a couple things on your app. |
| 17:03.42 | carols | firstly, your ideas page is nicely sorted but a bit short. |
| 17:03.47 | darcs|gh | yes |
| 17:03.52 | darcs|gh | okay |
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| 17:03.56 | carols | i understand you're probably a small project? |
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| 17:04.28 | darcs|gh | that's true, now that we saw more gsoc pages from other projects :) |
| 17:04.41 | carols | also, in terms of the ideas that are there, we would have liked expected skill level and maybe even some more information. |
| 17:04.55 | darcs|gh | yes, let's say we don't have as much active developers as other bigger projects, it can be felt on the projects page |
| 17:05.02 | carols | however, would your org be open to working under the haskell umbrella this year? |
| 17:05.12 | carols | i don't know if your orgs could do that, but we think it might be an option. |
| 17:05.24 | carols | if you're not interested, that's of course your prerogative. |
| 17:05.40 | darcs|gh | carols: we did it in the previous years. I'm going to ask the folks of haskell.org if it can be done again this year. |
| 17:05.46 | carols | ok, great. |
| 17:05.50 | carols | let me know how that goes. |
| 17:06.01 | carols | we'd be happy to give haskell some extra slots to accommodate you guys |
| 17:06.10 | carols | a couple, at least :-) |
| 17:06.16 | darcs|gh | yes wea are interested, but some people at haskell.org feel it's not the best use of their slots |
| 17:06.31 | darcs|gh | oh, I didn't know you could do that :) |
| 17:07.00 | carols | well, then, please have them email me directly to let me know when we do slot allocations what their 1) desired number of slots for haskell is and 2) what their desired number would be to accommodate you. |
| 17:07.14 | carols | and we'll make our decisions based on information :-) |
| 17:07.49 | darcs|gh | awesome :) |
| 17:07.53 | carols | cool |
| 17:07.56 | carols | any further questions? |
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| 17:08.19 | darcs|gh | with 1 or 2 slots we would be very happy already. |
| 17:08.28 | carols | cool. |
| 17:08.55 | carols | anything else? |
| 17:08.56 | darcs|gh | one questino, any feedback about our application in general? |
| 17:09.01 | carols | let me check. |
| 17:09.10 | darcs|gh | not the project ideas page |
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| 17:09.35 | carols | no, the rest of the application looks fine to me. |
| 17:09.46 | carols | we had a lot of good apps this year, i was impressed :-) |
| 17:09.56 | darcs|gh | alright then. we'll do better on the project ideas page for the next time. |
| 17:09.57 | carols | ideas page could have been a bit more extensive and fleshed out, though |
| 17:10.00 | carols | great. |
| 17:10.06 | carols | hope you have a nice rest of your day. |
| 17:10.12 | darcs|gh | thank you very much. |
| 17:10.20 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 17:10.21 | darcs|gh | you too, bye. |
| 17:10.22 | carols | alright |
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| 17:10.25 | carols | !nextinline |
| 17:10.26 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is lemora|baumanna with notice 'lemora http://lemora.wiki.tum.de/ideas' |
| 17:10.29 | lemora|baumanna | hi carol |
| 17:10.31 | carols | lemora folks |
| 17:10.32 | carols | hey |
| 17:10.53 | lemora|baumanna | do you have any feedback on our application? |
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| 17:11.44 | carols | yeah, looking it over now. |
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| 17:12.36 | carols | firstly, i realize that strictly speaking on your ideas page you have all the information we require for an ideas page, but it's organized in a way that made it a bit difficult to understand |
| 17:12.36 | carols | at least for me :-) |
| 17:12.43 | lemora|baumanna | oups |
| 17:12.46 | carols | like idea A, for example. |
| 17:13.05 | carols | i guess it's just a bit…hard to grok if you don't have the context on the project? |
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| 17:13.22 | carols | and are the prerequisites for all the projects, i assume? |
| 17:13.29 | lemora|baumanna | yes |
| 17:13.39 | carols | yeah, ok. |
| 17:14.04 | carols | were you only expecting students from the university to participate? |
| 17:14.07 | lemora|baumanna | when writing the ideas page, i tried to balance between the minimum of background information and not-to-much text |
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| 17:14.23 | carols | i guess i feel like the ideas page was sort of written for someone who already has context on the project, and we didn't. :-) |
| 17:14.23 | lemora|baumanna | as students don't like to read to much at one time |
| 17:14.32 | carols | yeah, it's true. they don't. |
| 17:14.37 | carols | it is a hard balancing act |
| 17:14.42 | lemora|baumanna | :) |
| 17:14.59 | carols | anyway, it was a bit difficult for us to "bite into" and so we didn't know if it would be for students as well or not. |
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| 17:15.19 | lemora|baumanna | ok. any advice from your experience? |
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| 17:15.49 | carols | well, i realize it will make it more wordy, but i think you need more information. |
| 17:15.59 | carols | for example, what lecturers are you referring to? |
| 17:16.08 | carols | any professor anywhere, or do they have particular use cases? |
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| 17:16.32 | lemora|baumanna | ah, ok, i get what you mean. thank you. |
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| 17:16.33 | carols | and i actually think prerequisites for each idea would be good, even though it makes it longer. |
| 17:16.41 | carols | you're welcome. |
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| 17:16.50 | carols | let me just take a quick look at the rest of the app. |
| 17:17.14 | carols | i can tell you it would have helped your case a bit to have an older or established org vouch for you |
| 17:17.25 | carols | but i don't know if that would have guaranteed you'd get in :-) |
| 17:17.30 | carols | just something to consider. |
| 17:17.32 | lemora|baumanna | thank you. very good advice |
| 17:17.40 | lemora|baumanna | i have a last brief question |
| 17:17.43 | carols | sure |
| 17:17.57 | lemora|baumanna | i was looking at the list of accepted organisations |
| 17:18.04 | lemora|baumanna | how much does the size of the org matter? |
| 17:18.04 | carols | yes? |
| 17:18.10 | carols | not much at all |
| 17:18.17 | lemora|baumanna | we're just a small university project |
| 17:18.26 | lemora|baumanna | compared to the big players, even tiny |
| 17:18.27 | carols | one of the other considerations we make when choosing orgs is having a nice balance of small to large organizations. |
| 17:18.39 | carols | it's all about giving the students the widest possible set of options |
| 17:18.52 | carols | so sometimes we're particularly favorable to small orgs :-) |
| 17:18.54 | carols | sometimes not. |
| 17:19.00 | carols | it all depends on what apps we receive |
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| 17:19.20 | carols | i hope that helps. |
| 17:19.23 | lemora|baumanna | ok, so that's some sort of lottery |
| 17:19.29 | carols | pretty much, yeah. |
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| 17:19.45 | lemora|baumanna | yes, thank you. |
| 17:19.55 | carols | you're welcome. have a nice rest of your day. |
| 17:20.00 | carols | moving along |
| 17:20.02 | lemora|baumanna | you too, carol |
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| 17:20.04 | carols | !nextinline |
| 17:20.05 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is phillipuniverse with notice 'Broadleaf Commerce https://github.com/BroadleafCommerce/BroadleafCommerce/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2013' |
| 17:20.08 | phillipuniverse | hello! |
| 17:20.12 | carols | broadleaf commerce folks |
| 17:20.14 | carols | hello :-) |
| 17:20.19 | carols | just a sec while i review the app |
| 17:20.22 | phillipuniverse | ok great |
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| 17:21.03 | carols | so i don't know if you've seen any of the feedback i've been giving to other folks about ideas pages? |
| 17:21.06 | carols | but a lot applies here too. |
| 17:21.27 | phillipuniverse | so more fleshed out, easier for people that don't know what's going on to grep, perhaps list available mentors? |
| 17:21.36 | carols | we would like any language prerequisites for each idea, potential mentors, an idea of expected skill level for each |
| 17:21.41 | carols | yep, exactly. |
| 17:22.02 | phillipuniverse | so for the mentors |
| 17:22.09 | carols | yes? |
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| 17:22.29 | phillipuniverse | since we are an established organization already (12 full-timers) all of our mentors would be pulled from that pool |
| 17:22.37 | phillipuniverse | and I was a little unsure about having mentors already pre-selected |
| 17:22.53 | carols | well, i wouldn't so much call it "pre-selected." |
| 17:22.56 | phillipuniverse | I saw both in past applications; some orgs had mentors already selected, some had lists of possible mentors |
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| 17:23.15 | carols | i would call it "giving the student an idea of who they're going to be working with so that they can interact with that person and interview you as well." |
| 17:23.27 | carols | possible mentors is fine. |
| 17:23.31 | carols | we're not going to hold you to it :-) |
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| 17:23.54 | carols | but see it from the students' perspective: they know nothing about you, and now they have to decide if they want to spend 3 months doing development for you |
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| 17:24.06 | carols | part of that decision-making process if figuring out if they like you as people |
| 17:24.14 | carols | much as you would if you were interviewing at any job. |
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| 17:24.30 | phillipuniverse | indeed |
| 17:24.37 | carols | so on the application, just a couple notes. |
| 17:24.50 | phillipuniverse | do tell |
| 17:25.02 | carols | in terms of retaining students, i'd like you to consider more what about the way you would administer the program do you think would keep the students around. |
| 17:25.14 | carols | students participate in gsoc generally because of the career opportunities. |
| 17:25.29 | carols | but making your organization welcoming and helping with on boarding is what will keep them around. |
| 17:25.56 | phillipuniverse | I see |
| 17:25.59 | carols | also, just as i've said to other orgs, having a larger org vouch for you probably would have helped your case just a tad. |
| 17:26.04 | carols | again, not a huge thing. |
| 17:26.15 | phillipuniverse | do you know of other orgs that are like us that we might try to partner with next year? |
| 17:26.17 | carols | just something to consider this year if you work with any other open source projects. |
| 17:26.26 | phillipuniverse | it didn't look like there were many other eCommerce projects |
| 17:26.28 | carols | email me offline and i'll see if i can pull some out for you? |
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| 17:26.35 | phillipuniverse | or Spring-based one |
| 17:26.46 | carols | do you have my email? |
| 17:26.49 | phillipuniverse | I do not |
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| 17:26.56 | carols | carols@google.com |
| 17:27.01 | phillipuniverse | great, thanks |
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| 17:27.06 | carols | and i'll mine the archives to see if there's anyone. |
| 17:27.09 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 17:27.16 | phillipuniverse | definitely |
| 17:27.17 | phillipuniverse | another question |
| 17:27.19 | carols | great. |
| 17:27.21 | carols | sure |
| 17:27.54 | phillipuniverse | so in gauging our participation level for next year, does it hurt us at all that we built a commercial company around our open-source software? |
| 17:28.00 | phillipuniverse | we pointed that out a fair amount in the applications |
| 17:28.02 | phillipuniverse | **application |
| 17:28.12 | phillipuniverse | and I guess we're a less "pure" OSS org |
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| 17:28.20 | carols | hurt? no. but it does make the barrier to entry higher. |
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| 17:28.39 | carols | in other words, you need to make a convincing argument why you need google's money to help recruit student developers |
| 17:28.43 | phillipuniverse | just because there is a higher level of quality expected since we've got actual full time resources? |
| 17:28.46 | phillipuniverse | ah gotcha |
| 17:28.47 | phillipuniverse | makes sense |
| 17:28.49 | carols | why couldn't you do it on your own in other words? |
| 17:28.51 | carols | yep |
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| 17:29.01 | phillipuniverse | that makes sense |
| 17:29.07 | phillipuniverse | so if I'm hearing your feedback correctly: |
| 17:29.08 | carols | great. |
| 17:29.24 | phillipuniverse | 1) better ideas for retaining students |
| 17:29.38 | phillipuniverse | 2) make the ideas page easier for students to discover what we do |
| 17:29.55 | phillipuniverse | and come at it from the perspective of someone who knows NOTHING about Broadleaf |
| 17:30.00 | phillipuniverse | and nothing about our technologies |
| 17:30.09 | phillipuniverse | (Spring, Hibernate, etc) |
| 17:30.17 | carols | yes, i would say that is all absolutely spot-on. |
| 17:30.25 | phillipuniverse | ok great |
| 17:30.26 | phillipuniverse | anything else? |
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| 17:30.43 | carols | email me about those other orgs. |
| 17:30.48 | phillipuniverse | yes definitely will |
| 17:30.51 | carols | no guarantees, but i'll try to dig some stuff up |
| 17:30.56 | phillipuniverse | ok awesome |
| 17:30.57 | carols | cool. |
| 17:31.01 | carols | hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 17:31.04 | phillipuniverse | you too |
| 17:31.06 | phillipuniverse | thanks for your time! |
| 17:31.09 | carols | cheers. |
| 17:31.11 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:31.13 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 17:31.22 | carols | fairmat folks |
| 17:31.24 | fairmat|weltall | hi carols |
| 17:31.27 | carols | hi :-) |
| 17:31.49 | fairmat|weltall | so did we do something wrong? :D |
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| 17:32.33 | carols | not at all :-) |
| 17:32.49 | carols | so we liked your ideas page. |
| 17:32.53 | carols | i like the way it's laid out |
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| 17:33.26 | carols | would have liked some more info on that last idea, but overall, that's ok :-) |
| 17:33.45 | carols | so you guys so analytics stuff? |
| 17:33.47 | carols | *do |
| 17:34.06 | fairmat|weltall | yeah well it was a lower interest idea and probably would have needed some development too |
| 17:34.13 | carols | yeah, from what i'm seeing, we had a lot of applications in the analytics/mathematics/statistic sphere. |
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| 17:34.39 | carols | i think we did some rebalancing that didn't work in your favor unfortunately :-( |
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| 17:34.47 | fairmat|weltall | we allow people to model a contract or a real option (like a product development) and analyze the risk by using the various modelling tools available in the field |
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| 17:35.07 | fairmat|weltall | aw shame :( |
| 17:35.14 | carols | it sounds like a cool project :-) |
| 17:35.23 | carols | you just feel victim to the hard decisions this year. |
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| 17:35.42 | carols | your application overall looks good |
| 17:35.48 | fairmat|weltall | yeah and we are trying to make available what happens under the hood with the mathematical models in opensource form :) |
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| 17:36.06 | carols | although i would have appreciated a little less emphasis on money in the student incentives section :-) |
| 17:36.08 | fairmat|weltall | would you suggest to find some other org to act as umbrella? |
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| 17:36.19 | carols | we try to give students incentives other than economic ones. |
| 17:36.38 | carols | well, the first one that comes to mind (which might not work out for you) is do you know any of the Sage folks? |
| 17:36.50 | fairmat|weltall | eh well the problem is that we don't really have a noticeable community yet and in this field we find troublesome to find people who are good at coding and finance |
| 17:36.59 | fairmat|weltall | nope |
| 17:37.05 | carols | if not, i'm happy to look more extensively at the list or orgs and email you offline to suggest some. |
| 17:37.08 | carols | ok |
| 17:37.15 | carols | how about you email me and we talk about it further? |
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| 17:37.23 | fairmat|weltall | sure ok thanks a lot |
| 17:37.31 | carols | great. |
| 17:37.37 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:37.40 | fairmat|weltall | one last thing do you have any suggestions on the incentives for next year? |
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| 17:37.51 | carols | well, don't think of them like incentives. |
| 17:37.59 | carols | think of them like ways to grow a community. |
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| 17:38.24 | carols | so think about structuring your community in such a way that the participants feel a sense of connection to the people and the development their doing |
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| 17:38.42 | carols | it's true that a lot of students come to gsoc for the money, but we want them to *stay* for the communities. |
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| 17:38.53 | carols | the friendships, really. |
| 17:38.57 | carols | that's the most important part. |
| 17:39.06 | carols | and now i'm done with my soapbox :-) |
| 17:39.10 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 17:39.15 | fairmat|weltall | thanks :) |
| 17:39.20 | carols | you're welcome. |
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| 17:39.25 | fairmat|weltall | i think that's all *gives chocolates and tea* :D |
| 17:39.31 | carols | exactly |
| 17:39.34 | carols | :-) |
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| 17:39.39 | carols | i hope you have a nice summer/winter |
| 17:39.45 | fairmat|weltall | you too :) |
| 17:39.49 | carols | cool |
| 17:39.51 | carols | moving along |
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| 17:39.58 | carols | ffmpeg folks |
| 17:40.05 | ffmpeg|saste | hi carols |
| 17:40.09 | carols | hey there |
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| 17:40.13 | ffmpeg|ux | hi |
| 17:40.31 | carols | who from the org should i PM? |
| 17:40.43 | ffmpeg|saste | me i suppose |
| 17:40.47 | carols | great |
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| 17:45.47 | ffmpeg|saste | do you have some specific remarks about our application text and/or ideas page? |
| 17:45.59 | carols | i'd say your ideas page is quite good. i appreciate that you broke out the ideas into mentored and unmonitored categoried. |
| 17:46.04 | carols | *categories |
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| 17:47.39 | ffmpeg|ux | we were told our page wasn't good enough last year; we tried to improve it for this year, any suggestion on potential improvements? |
| 17:47.48 | carols | yes, i think it was a great improvement. |
| 17:48.03 | carols | i actually think it looks just fine in terms of the organization. |
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| 17:48.30 | carols | i hope that helps. |
| 17:48.40 | ffmpeg|saste | yes thanks |
| 17:48.47 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 17:48.51 | carols | i hope you have a good weekend. |
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| 17:49.06 | ffmpeg|saste | you too :) |
| 17:49.11 | carols | cheers :-) |
| 17:49.18 | carols | alright moving along! |
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| 17:49.32 | carols | octave folks |
| 17:50.05 | carols | alright, so this appears to have been another numbers issue. |
| 17:50.38 | carols | have you guys worked under the gnu umbrella before? |
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| 17:51.14 | JordiGH | carols: Hey. |
| 17:51.19 | JordiGH | Sorry, I was afk. |
| 17:51.20 | jwe | We've participated as part of the GNU project in the past. |
| 17:51.23 | carols | no problem. |
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| 17:51.25 | carols | ok |
| 17:51.48 | carols | it looks like we got a lot of gnu projects this year, and i was wondering if you guys would be willing to work under the gnu project again this year. |
| 17:51.56 | JordiGH | carols: I'm actually surprised Octave got rejected but Mercurial got accepted. I wrote the applications for both, and it looked to me like Octave looked like a much stronger candidate than Mercurial. |
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| 17:52.09 | JordiGH | Oh, so is it just a matter of Octave going under GNU? |
| 17:52.15 | carols | well, then this is a great example of it not only being about the application :-) |
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| 17:52.24 | carols | it's also about the balancing between *types* of projects. |
| 17:52.32 | carols | yes, indeed. |
| 17:52.41 | carols | if that's possible. |
| 17:52.43 | JordiGH | Scilab got rejected too, they're kind of our closest "competitors". |
| 17:53.05 | JordiGH | Yeah, we've already been talking to GNU and telling people that we will be participating but under GNU. |
| 17:53.09 | carols | well, that could have been the application or numbers or their ideas page. i haven't refreshed my memory on them. |
| 17:53.11 | carols | ok. |
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| 17:53.28 | JordiGH | Would you prefer it stayed this way for next year, under GNU, or should we try again to apply next year? |
| 17:53.37 | carols | please have them email me when were doing slot allocations to let me know what their desired slots for themselves and what their desired slots for you are. |
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| 17:53.50 | carols | i think you should apply again next year. |
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| 17:54.07 | carols | the worst that will happen is you get rejected, but you can't be accepted on your own if you don't apply in the first place. |
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| 17:54.34 | carols | your application looks fine to me. |
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| 17:54.40 | JordiGH | Okay, it hurts morale a little to get rejected, but if Sage can do it a zillion times, so can we. :-) |
| 17:54.50 | carols | ain't that the truth. |
| 17:55.06 | JordiGH | So that's all? We're not doing anything wrong? |
| 17:55.06 | carols | does it help if i tell you it's really nothing personal? |
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| 17:55.56 | carols | yeah, i agree with you, it's a strong application. |
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| 17:56.05 | carols | we just got to balancing orgs and had to reject you because of that. |
| 17:56.15 | carols | as we did with a lot of older orgs this year, a lot of OSes, etc. |
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| 17:56.56 | JordiGH | Okay, we'll polish it again for next year and try again. In the meantime, we'll be with our GNU/Friends. |
| 17:57.00 | carols | i know it's not very satisfying. |
| 17:57.03 | carols | great. |
| 17:57.04 | JordiGH | Seems fine to me. |
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| 17:57.09 | carols | please let me know if you need any help with that. |
| 17:57.22 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:57.52 | JordiGH | I'm good. jwe? |
| 17:57.59 | jwe | none from me. |
| 17:58.08 | jwe | Thanks. |
| 17:58.08 | carols | great. |
| 17:58.14 | carols | i hope you both have a nice rest of your day. |
| 17:58.28 | jwe | Same to you. |
| 17:58.32 | carols | cheers. |
| 17:58.34 | carols | moving along! |
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| 17:58.43 | carols | tatoeba folks. |
| 17:58.46 | Tatoeba|liori_ | hello! |
| 17:58.50 | Tatoeba|Trang | hello carols |
| 17:58.56 | carols | hey |
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| 17:59.45 | carols | so looking over the ideas page, i see that overall we thought it was very well-structured. |
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| 18:00.53 | carols | so another type of project we got a lot of applications for this year was translation and internationalization :-) |
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| 18:01.11 | Tatoeba|liori_ | bad luck, then (-: |
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| 18:01.27 | carols | and yes, i would agree, i think this was just bad luck |
| 18:01.48 | carols | it just looks like in doing our cuts you guys didn't make it :-( |
| 18:02.04 | Tatoeba|Trang | So we would have better luck next year? :) |
| 18:02.16 | carols | i would encourage you to apply, for sure :-) |
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| 18:02.32 | carols | no guarantees, of course. |
| 18:02.36 | Tatoeba|Trang | Is there anything else we can do to increase our chances? |
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| 18:02.52 | carols | um, knock off the other internationalization projects? |
| 18:02.54 | carols | no, i'm just kidding. |
| 18:02.57 | carols | :-) |
| 18:02.59 | Tatoeba|Trang | :P |
| 18:03.06 | carols | i think it's just a matter of numbers this year. |
| 18:03.27 | carols | please do try again next year if we have the program again :-) |
| 18:03.37 | Tatoeba|Trang | we will |
| 18:03.42 | carols | i'm sorry the answer's not more satisfying. |
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| 18:04.02 | carols | i hope that helps a little though |
| 18:04.06 | Tatoeba|Trang | don't worry :) |
| 18:04.08 | carols | did you have any specific questions? |
| 18:04.13 | carols | (other than that) |
| 18:04.34 | Tatoeba|Trang | hmm, I don't have any |
| 18:04.42 | carols | ok. |
| 18:04.49 | carols | well, i hope you have a nice summer/winter |
| 18:04.56 | carols | and thank you for waiting so long :-) |
| 18:04.58 | Tatoeba|Trang | thank you, you too :) |
| 18:05.04 | Tatoeba|Trang | no problem |
| 18:05.10 | carols | cheers |
| 18:05.14 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 18:05.16 | carols | !nextinline |
| 18:05.17 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is scuttlemonkey with notice 'Inktank http://ceph.com/gsoc2013/gsoc-ideas/' |
| 18:05.21 | carols | inktank folks |
| 18:05.23 | scuttlemonkey | hey carol |
| 18:05.31 | scuttlemonkey | my first thought was rejection was based on relative difficulty and (lack of) number of ideas...beyond that, would love to hear feedback for next year. |
| 18:06.04 | carols | hi there |
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| 18:06.17 | carols | yes, i would absolutely agree with you that we would have liked to see at least a few more ideas. |
| 18:06.24 | carols | however, the structure of your ideas page looks good. |
| 18:06.34 | scuttlemonkey | yeah, was a small dispute between our engineering mgr and myself |
| 18:06.51 | scuttlemonkey | live and learn I suppose |
| 18:07.08 | scuttlemonkey | thankfully several students have contacted us directly with a desire to work on Ceph projects independent of GSoC, so we may run our own mini-program this summer depending on how workload is. |
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| 18:07.21 | carols | i'm glad that you had a googled vouching for you, and i can tell you that certainly worked in your favor. |
| 18:07.27 | carols | well that's good to hear! |
| 18:07.34 | scuttlemonkey | and, barring all else, the ganeti folks are going to use Dan Mick to mentor some ceph stuff under their umbrella I think |
| 18:07.36 | carols | i always like it when that happens. |
| 18:07.51 | scuttlemonkey | just looking to see if there is anything else I should polish for a resub next year to maximize our chances? |
| 18:08.08 | carols | um, i can say that this probably didn't affect your application too much, but i was a little confused where the line between inktank and ceph fell? |
| 18:08.24 | scuttlemonkey | hehe yeah, we're working to do a better job of that in general |
| 18:08.30 | carols | it was hard to assess who was doing what and who we were assessing |
| 18:08.33 | carols | it wasn't a huge deal. |
| 18:08.35 | scuttlemonkey | right |
| 18:08.37 | carols | just something to think about. |
| 18:08.57 | scuttlemonkey | ceph == LGPL 2 open source project && inktank == cloudera || red hat model commercial support org |
| 18:09.06 | carols | ah, yeah, i don't think i got that. |
| 18:09.14 | carols | then again, i had 416 other applications i was looking at. |
| 18:09.16 | scuttlemonkey | the new governance stuff I'm working on for ceph should alleviate that by next year |
| 18:09.21 | scuttlemonkey | hehe, understandable |
| 18:09.48 | carols | yeah, the only other thing i'd say is that we would have liked the ideas to make have some supporting information or background |
| 18:09.57 | carols | like, where you got the idea for the project from. :-) |
| 18:10.01 | scuttlemonkey | gotcha |
| 18:10.14 | carols | but overall, it was just a bunch of minor nitpicks that added up to you guys not getting picked |
| 18:10.19 | scuttlemonkey | suppose a redmine link and supporting code/history would be good |
| 18:10.27 | scuttlemonkey | fair enough |
| 18:10.36 | scuttlemonkey | I'll make the notes and pick it up again next year |
| 18:10.38 | carols | yep. |
| 18:10.40 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 18:10.42 | scuttlemonkey | sure |
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| 18:10.51 | scuttlemonkey | glad it wasn't anything glaringly terrible |
| 18:10.56 | carols | no, it wasn't. |
| 18:11.02 | scuttlemonkey | thanks for the feedback, I'll let you speed along to the other patient folks |
| 18:11.12 | carols | great, thank you for waiting :-) |
| 18:11.14 | carols | moving along! |
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| 18:11.19 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is soot|elena with notice 'Soot http://sites.google.com/a/boisestate.edu/soot-gsoc-idea-list/' |
| 18:11.22 | carols | soot folks |
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| 18:11.28 | soot|eric | hi carols |
| 18:11.29 | soot|malaverdier | Hi carols |
| 18:11.35 | soot|elena | hey! |
| 18:11.40 | carols | hi there :-) |
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| 18:12.20 | soot|malaverdier | So we'd like to know what we should improve for next year |
| 18:12.26 | carols | so amongst all the other orgs we got a lot of this year, did i mention we had a lot of java-project applications? |
| 18:12.26 | carols | :-) |
| 18:12.39 | soot|eric | well, I can see that :-) |
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| 18:12.52 | carols | firstly, i like the structure of your ideas page, but we would have appreciated a couple more ideas? |
| 18:12.56 | soot|berber | we have to switch to another programming language |
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| 18:13.08 | soot|elena | what do you mean under java-project applications? |
| 18:13.10 | carols | yeah, you had a lot of stuff competition. |
| 18:13.20 | carols | sorry, i just mean a lot of java implementations of things. |
| 18:13.25 | soot|eric | since it was our first application, we were trying to keep it small - maybe that was a mistake |
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| 18:13.44 | soot|eric | would you say the more ideas the better? |
| 18:13.47 | carols | well, maybe one or two more ideas would have helped your case? |
| 18:14.11 | soot|elena | I think we did have couple more. |
| 18:14.12 | carols | in addition to wanting to have a wide breadth of organizations, we want to have a bunch of different ideas within the organizations to give students variety. |
| 18:14.21 | soot|eric | ok, that's good advice for the next round |
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| 18:14.30 | soot|eric | anything else we could improve? |
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| 18:15.17 | carols | the other thing i noticed was that you mentioned in your application that you didn't have a wide set of developers right now |
| 18:15.23 | carols | i appreciate the honesty, of course :-) |
| 18:15.43 | soot|eric | right. why would you see that as a negative point? |
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| 18:15.45 | carols | but it's a little worrisome in terms of us thinking about you being able to support the students and have a viable community |
| 18:15.55 | soot|malaverdier | I was curious on whether the fact that we are not formally organized changed the assessment |
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| 18:16.04 | carols | it did a bit, yeah. |
| 18:16.17 | soot|eric | hmmm, I just wonder what it would take to improve this |
| 18:16.27 | soot|eric | do you have any suggestions? |
| 18:16.29 | carols | i'm fine with small projects, but we need to feel confident that students are going to have a "safety net" of a community when they go to work for you. |
| 18:16.44 | soot|malaverdier | As a rule of thumb, how many active contributors give you more confidence? |
| 18:16.47 | soot|elena | have a couple dedicated developers :-) |
| 18:16.56 | carols | maybe 4 or 5? |
| 18:17.06 | carols | keep in mind GSoC is always more work than people think it will be |
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| 18:17.16 | soot|malaverdier | That's a good point |
| 18:17.16 | soot|eric | well, then I think we are almost there |
| 18:17.19 | carols | and so you usually end up leaning on the community more than you think you will. |
| 18:17.21 | carols | cool |
| 18:17.38 | carols | so maybe spend this year polishing up the ideas page just a bit and growing your community a bit. |
| 18:17.38 | soot|eric | ok, we will keep working on this in the next year |
| 18:17.43 | carols | and try again next year :-) |
| 18:17.50 | soot|eric | we will, thanks! |
| 18:17.54 | soot|malaverdier | Ok. Thanks a lot |
| 18:17.55 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 18:17.57 | soot|eric | anything else that comes to your mind? |
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| 18:18.00 | soot|berber | thanks |
| 18:18.06 | carols | not that i can see for now. |
| 18:18.13 | soot|elena | Thanks for feedback, Carols! |
| 18:18.15 | carols | please feel free to email me if you have any questions. |
| 18:18.18 | carols | of course |
| 18:18.19 | carols | cheers |
| 18:18.20 | soot|eric | ok great |
| 18:18.26 | soot|eric | thanks so far |
| 18:18.27 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 18:18.31 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 18:18.37 | carols | x2go folks |
| 18:18.41 | sunweaver | hi! |
| 18:18.50 | sunweaver | thanks for taking your time on this btw! |
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| 18:19.28 | sunweaver | carols: you start with some basic feedback first? |
| 18:19.29 | carols | alright |
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| 18:19.35 | carols | yes :-) |
| 18:19.39 | carols | firstly, the ideas page |
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| 18:19.51 | carols | it's a bit hard to parse. |
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| 18:20.17 | carols | i'd like to have prerequisite languages or knowledge, potential mentors from your community, a clear summary, and then any supporting information |
| 18:20.31 | carols | not necessarily in that order, but certainly divided up and easy to navigate |
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| 18:20.38 | sunweaver | ok |
| 18:21.06 | carols | secondly, your project is a bit niche :-/ |
| 18:21.14 | carols | normally this wouldn't be such a bad thing |
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| 18:21.18 | carols | as we like a wide breadth |
| 18:21.37 | sunweaver | terminal server solutions are a niche? Why do you think that? |
| 18:21.56 | carols | but we just had so many apps this year, we were both trying to balance orgs that would appeal to a wide variety of students as well as things that would be "fun" |
| 18:22.13 | sunweaver | ah, ok, getting what you mean... |
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| 18:22.40 | sunweaver | mostly people contributing are people who deploy terminal services or SaaS with X2Go to customers (or students at Uni) |
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| 18:22.49 | carols | yeah, understandable. |
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| 18:23.04 | carols | but combined with the nitpicks about the ideas page, they worked together against you :-( |
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| 18:23.32 | carols | let me just check your app for anything else. |
| 18:23.34 | sunweaver | so for next year, we have to work hard on the ideas page and hope we will not fall into the niche again?!? |
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| 18:24.17 | carols | well, that also has to take into consideration the other apps we get. |
| 18:24.41 | carols | but yes, please spruce up the ideas page for sure. |
| 18:24.48 | sunweaver | how many code project ideas do you recommend? simply as many as possible? |
| 18:24.57 | carols | no, not as many as possible. |
| 18:25.10 | carols | i actually like the *quantity* of ideas on your page. |
| 18:25.19 | carols | just not the way they are structured. |
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| 18:25.42 | sunweaver | ok... the project core team is not that strong so any more would be hard to handle anyway... |
| 18:25.47 | sunweaver | ok. |
| 18:25.50 | carols | also, as i've said to a couple other folks, having someone to vouch for you would have given you a nice little bonus. |
| 18:26.02 | carols | it didn't make or break the application, but would have helped. |
| 18:26.07 | sunweaver | yeah, I did not get how that could be done. |
| 18:26.27 | carols | well, it would mean collaborating in some way with another org that has participated in gsoc. |
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| 18:26.33 | carols | which may or not may even be possible for you. |
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| 18:26.41 | sunweaver | so I have to advertise X2Go to other applying projects and hope they vouch for me? Or how does it work (in short). |
| 18:26.43 | carols | which is why it's not something we hinge the application on. |
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| 18:27.07 | sunweaver | ah, ok. |
| 18:27.19 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 18:27.29 | sunweaver | I will do a BoF on DebConf2013 on the project, so maybe we find some supporters there. |
| 18:27.35 | carols | awesome. |
| 18:27.39 | sunweaver | :-) |
| 18:27.39 | carols | that's a great idea. |
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| 18:27.44 | carols | anything else? |
| 18:27.48 | sunweaver | the application? |
| 18:28.08 | carols | the only thing i saw a problem with in the application was the vouching. |
| 18:28.12 | carols | everything else looks fine. |
| 18:28.16 | sunweaver | ok, thanks! |
| 18:28.21 | carols | :-) |
| 18:28.24 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 18:28.35 | sunweaver | last question: is it ok to quote our part of the meeting and post it to our dev mailing list? |
| 18:28.35 | carols | hope you have a nice summer/winter |
| 18:28.41 | carols | sure |
| 18:28.44 | sunweaver | thx! |
| 18:28.47 | carols | it's a logged channel, you can quote all of it |
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| 18:29.03 | sunweaver | have a nice summer/winter, as well, maybe more next year! |
| 18:29.09 | carols | yes, for sure! |
| 18:29.10 | carols | cheers |
| 18:29.15 | carols | moving along! |
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| 18:29.18 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 18:29.21 | gstreamer|ensoni | hi carols, got some nice inspiration from the other orgs pages already (org intro + mentor intro at the top) |
| 18:29.24 | carols | gstreamer folks |
| 18:29.27 | carols | ok cool :-) |
| 18:29.31 | carols | let me take another look |
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| 18:30.20 | carols | yes, i would agree with what you said, gstreamer|ensoni. |
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| 18:30.41 | carols | but really, i can tell you, you were one of the last cuts we made. we liked your application overall |
| 18:30.54 | carols | and just really ended up having to make hard rejection decisions this year. |
| 18:31.03 | gstreamer|ensoni | does not look good for multimedia at all this year though |
| 18:31.11 | carols | indeed. |
| 18:31.16 | carols | every year is different. |
| 18:31.35 | carols | so yes, some tweaks to your ideas page |
| 18:31.43 | carols | i'd encourage you to apply again next year though. |
| 18:31.49 | carols | you were just one of our hard decisions. |
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| 18:32.18 | gstreamer|ensoni | I also applied with my one-man project buzztard, but I understood that these projects have little chance - maybe that can be more explicit |
| 18:32.28 | carols | ah! buzztard. |
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| 18:32.33 | carols | that one was way different. |
| 18:32.42 | carols | you need to rename the project if you want that one to be viable. |
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| 18:33.20 | gstreamer|ensoni | really? |
| 18:33.26 | carols | yes. |
| 18:33.31 | carols | really. |
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| 18:34.01 | gstreamer|ensoni | well then it is not going to happen, sorry, but we'll apply with gstreamer again |
| 18:34.08 | carols | cool! |
| 18:34.16 | carols | i hope you have a nice rest of your weekend |
| 18:34.22 | gstreamer|ensoni | I'am going to mail you regarding the name, don't need to spend more time on i here |
| 18:34.32 | carols | sure, sounds good. |
| 18:34.40 | carols | thanks for waiting as well. |
| 18:34.40 | gstreamer|ensoni | you too, hope you are done soon as well, cu |
| 18:34.45 | carols | cheers |
| 18:34.47 | carols | moving along! |
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| 18:34.50 | carols | !nextinline |
| 18:34.51 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is haiku|umcculloug with notice 'Haiku http://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2013/ideas' |
| 18:34.53 | carols | haiku |
| 18:35.00 | haiku|umcculloug | scorche, also axeld |
| 18:35.02 | haiku|leavengood | hello |
| 18:35.04 | carols | aw man, did i mention we got a lot of OSes this year? |
| 18:35.08 | haiku|umcculloug | yep :) |
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| 18:35.11 | haiku|umcculloug | we already suspected |
| 18:35.44 | haiku|umcculloug | but, we had a great run, and last year was one of our most successful GSoC, so we greatly appreciate your time and energy put into this program |
| 18:35.45 | carols | i'm sorry, guys. this was just a combination of so many OSes applying and the fact that we were making way for new orgs this year. |
| 18:35.46 | haiku|leavengood | We had quite a good run of acceptances, at some point we would get rejected I guess |
| 18:35.54 | carols | yeah, i'm sorry about that. |
| 18:35.58 | carols | your ideas page looked great. |
| 18:36.01 | haiku|umcculloug | we will, of course, apply again next year |
| 18:36.06 | carols | great, please do. |
| 18:36.19 | haiku|leavengood | Also thanks for all the hard work you do on this carols |
| 18:36.26 | carols | of course. more than happy to. |
| 18:36.28 | haiku|leavengood | Much appreciated |
| 18:36.42 | carols | sorry guys, hopefully we'll hear from you in other ways throughout the year. |
| 18:36.49 | haiku|umcculloug | just a quick note |
| 18:36.52 | carols | yes? |
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| 18:37.06 | haiku|umcculloug | have our applications quality decreased compared to competition? |
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| 18:37.19 | carols | um, let me ruminate on that for a second. |
| 18:37.31 | haiku|umcculloug | i assume they have gotten better across the board |
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| 18:38.14 | carols | the applications have gotten better, yes. these feedback sessions seem to be working :-) |
| 18:38.28 | carols | well, i guess i could say that some of your ideas on your ideas page are more fleshed out than others. |
| 18:38.29 | axeld | Since there are so many OSes maybe we should try to separate us from them :-) |
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| 18:38.45 | carols | but really, you're allowed some room to have ideas that aren't entirely totally ready for primetime on there. |
| 18:38.52 | carols | we give allowances for such things. |
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| 18:39.06 | haiku|umcculloug | in any case, we have suggested our students infiltrate other projects like abiword and libreoffice ;) |
| 18:39.11 | carols | and your list is extensive enough that a few that are short in comparison to the others isn't such a big deal. |
| 18:39.13 | haiku|umcculloug | and port them to haiku :D |
| 18:39.17 | carols | cool, i hope so :-) |
| 18:39.31 | carols | so i guess the answer is no, your application quality hasn't slipped. |
| 18:39.51 | haiku|umcculloug | thanks, we can let others have their turn now i think :) |
| 18:39.51 | carols | hope that helps. |
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| 18:39.56 | carols | great :-) |
| 18:39.59 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 18:40.04 | carols | have a nice weekend |
| 18:40.07 | haiku|leavengood | you too |
| 18:40.08 | haiku|umcculloug | you as well |
| 18:40.10 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 18:40.13 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 18:40.16 | carols | libav |
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| 18:40.27 | libav|DonDiego | moin |
| 18:40.30 | carols | who from libav should I PM? |
| 18:40.33 | libav|DonDiego | carols: you can pm me |
| 18:40.36 | carols | great |
| 18:40.36 | libav|DonDiego | about the ideas page ... i know it could use more work; in fact, more work on it was planned, but i missed the deadline |
| 18:40.41 | libav|DonDiego | i was just scatterbrained and had a lot of stuff going on, so i confused two dates |
| 18:40.44 | libav|DonDiego | specific feedback nonetheless welcome |
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| 18:45.56 | carols | alright, moving along! |
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| 18:46.05 | carols | orange folks |
| 18:46.07 | orange-biolab | hey |
| 18:46.37 | carols | hey there. |
| 18:46.52 | carols | so i have to say, your ideas page is good, but we weren't "wowed" |
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| 18:47.21 | orange-biolab | hm, we'll try to be more creative next year |
| 18:47.27 | carols | i would have liked a stronger summary, more extensive information on each |
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| 18:47.32 | carols | *each idea that is |
| 18:47.44 | carols | i'm glad that you rated the ideas, that was good. |
| 18:48.09 | orange-biolab | ok |
| 18:48.18 | orange-biolab | they could use a bit longer summary |
| 18:48.28 | carols | yes. |
| 18:48.30 | carols | let me see |
| 18:48.49 | orange-biolab | anything else with the application in general? |
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| 18:49.13 | carols | as i've said to a couple other folks, it would have certainly helped you to have someone vouch for you. i know you guys participated under python before? |
| 18:49.39 | orange-biolab | we participated successfully in 2011 and 2012 |
| 18:49.47 | carols | right, ok. |
| 18:49.58 | orange-biolab | and I think in 2006 under python |
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| 18:50.18 | carols | so there was the other other problem of us getting rid of old orgs this year to make way for new ones |
| 18:50.39 | carols | i think if you guys had fleshed out your ideas page more it might have gone in your favor |
| 18:50.44 | carols | no guarantees, of course. |
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| 18:50.54 | carols | but anyway, the rest of the application looks fine. |
| 18:51.10 | orange-biolab | thanks, we'll be back next year :) |
| 18:51.14 | carols | i do hope you'll apply again next year if we do the program again? |
| 18:51.16 | carols | great! |
| 18:51.21 | carols | great minds thinking alike :-) |
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| 18:51.39 | carols | did you have any other questions for me? |
| 18:51.54 | orange-biolab | not really, I'll make room for the others in line :) |
| 18:52.02 | carols | great, thanks for waiting. |
| 18:52.16 | carols | have a nice weekend |
| 18:52.22 | carols | moving along! |
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| 18:52.26 | jasebo | limesurvey http://oldmanual.limesurvey.org/Project+Ideas+for+GSoC+2013 |
| 18:52.31 | carols | ah, ok |
| 18:52.33 | carols | thanks :-) |
| 18:52.33 | jasebo | hi carols |
| 18:52.38 | carols | hey |
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| 18:53.22 | carols | your ideas page looks good. |
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| 18:53.31 | carols | i really like the organization and structure |
| 18:53.36 | carols | and the amount of ideas as well :-) |
| 18:54.01 | jasebo | thanks, we've got some good people collating them :-) |
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| 18:54.27 | carols | again, one thing i've said to other orgs that i'll say to you too is that we were rejecting a lot of orgs that have participated before to make way for new orgs this year. |
| 18:54.35 | carols | you guys definitely had that problem :-( |
| 18:54.47 | carols | can i PM as well? |
| 18:54.52 | jasebo | sure |
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| 18:57.28 | carols | ok, moving along! |
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| 18:57.32 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is mailman|florianf with notice 'mailman http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2013' |
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| 18:57.36 | carols | mailman folks |
| 18:57.39 | mailman|florianf | hi carols |
| 18:57.43 | carols | hey there |
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| 18:58.11 | mailman|florianf | would you like to start with some feedback? |
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| 18:58.22 | carols | yeah, actually, your ideas page looks good. |
| 18:58.33 | mailman|florianf | fine! good to hear that. |
| 18:58.49 | carols | what i'm seeing on the feedback is that we had some students who participated for you in the past who didn't have wonderful experiences with you. |
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| 18:59.27 | carols | and while this wouldn't be a deal breaker normally, we were trying to get a lot of new orgs in this year as i'm sure you saw |
| 18:59.34 | mailman|florianf | oh. i wasn't aware of that. although we had to fail one last year |
| 18:59.37 | carols | and so we were aggressively rejecting older orgs. |
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| 18:59.47 | carols | no, this wasn't from students who failed. |
| 18:59.50 | carols | we take that into account. |
| 19:00.01 | carols | anyway, it's not the end of the world. |
| 19:00.10 | carols | i would recommend you try again next year. |
| 19:00.26 | carols | and maybe speak to your potential mentors directly about their commitments |
| 19:00.31 | mailman|florianf | ok. is there anything we can do to make up for that? |
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| 19:00.35 | carols | and make sure they're on board to take care of the students. |
| 19:00.50 | mailman|florianf | ok |
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| 19:00.58 | carols | it sounds like you have some folks over there who may have taken on more with mentoring than they could chew. |
| 19:01.12 | mailman|florianf | ok thanks. that's a good hint. |
| 19:01.18 | carols | cool. |
| 19:01.20 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 19:01.29 | mailman|florianf | we're taking part under the psf this year. I'll see that this won't be the case this year. |
| 19:01.42 | carols | great, thank you. |
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| 19:01.51 | mailman|florianf | thank's for your feedback! |
| 19:01.58 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 19:02.05 | carols | i hope you have a good summer/winter |
| 19:02.11 | carols | and thanks for waiting |
| 19:02.11 | mailman|florianf | thanks! you too. |
| 19:02.15 | carols | cheers |
| 19:02.17 | carols | moving along! |
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| 19:02.21 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:02.21 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is LISPmob_Albert with notice 'LISPmob http://www.lispmob.org/gsoc2013' |
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| 19:02.28 | carols | we're now three hours into it :-) |
| 19:02.29 | LISPmob_Albert | Hi Carol |
| 19:02.31 | carols | hi lispmob folks |
| 19:02.35 | LISPmob|arnatal | Hi there |
| 19:02.49 | LISPmob_Albert | we´d like to have some feedback on the proposal, and how we can improve it |
| 19:03.04 | carols | yes, of course |
| 19:03.35 | carols | so firstly, i understand you're probably a small project, but we would have appreciated if you had at least a couple more ideas on your ideas page. |
| 19:03.46 | carols | the structure of the page is great though! |
| 19:03.52 | carols | i like that, keep that the way it is. |
| 19:03.56 | LISPmob_Albert | thanks, we follow the recommended structure |
| 19:04.09 | LISPmob_Albert | we didn´t add more ideas just because we didn´t expect to receive more than 1/2 students |
| 19:04.26 | LISPmob_Albert | given that we are a new/small project |
| 19:04.29 | carols | yeah, i understand. |
| 19:04.35 | carols | maybe just one more idea? |
| 19:04.40 | carols | anyway, it wasn't a huge deal. |
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| 19:04.53 | carols | did i mention that we got a lot of lisp projects this year too? |
| 19:05.03 | LISPmob_Albert | really? that´s cool |
| 19:05.15 | carols | yeah, unfortunately that also didn't work in your favor. |
| 19:05.26 | LISPmob_Albert | may I ask you why? |
| 19:05.37 | carols | again, as i mentioned, we go for breadth as much as possible in the organizations we choose |
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| 19:05.55 | carols | so we try not to accept too much of any one thing |
| 19:05.56 | LISPmob_Albert | I understand, you´re refering to LISP the language or LISP the protocol |
| 19:06.06 | carols | um, yes. both :-) |
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| 19:06.43 | LISPmob_Albert | so you mean that other LISP (the protocol) projects were accepted |
| 19:06.46 | carols | anyway, it was probably a couple different small things that ended up being the overall rejection. |
| 19:07.12 | carols | it's more about the bigger picture of providing a lot of different options to students. |
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| 19:07.33 | LISPmob_Albert | I understand |
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| 19:07.38 | carols | we have to both choose projects specifically based on their merit but also generally based on where they fit in the overall open source ecosystem :-) |
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| 19:07.51 | carols | anyway, i would encourage you to apply again next year for sure |
| 19:07.54 | LISPmob_Albert | it would be great if you could point out such small things so we an improve the proposal? |
| 19:08.13 | carols | let me look at the rest of the application |
| 19:08.28 | LISPmob_Albert | sure, thanks |
| 19:09.15 | carols | the only other thing i would say is that relying on your org admins to be backup mentors is a little difficult. |
| 19:09.33 | carols | mostly it speaks to the question of how large your community is and if you can support the students. |
| 19:09.43 | carols | but again, this a small thing that just in sum total didn't work in your favor |
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| 19:10.02 | carols | the rest of the application looks fine |
| 19:10.07 | LISPmob_Albert | well backup mentors were other mentors |
| 19:10.14 | carols | indeed. |
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| 19:10.21 | LISPmob_Albert | I understand |
| 19:10.23 | carols | it was not the deciding factor for us. |
| 19:10.35 | carols | just something to consider. |
| 19:10.44 | LISPmob_Albert | but we are indeed a small community |
| 19:10.45 | carols | anyway, i hope that helps. |
| 19:10.52 | carols | right, and that's ok. |
| 19:10.55 | LISPmob_Albert | sure, I have another question |
| 19:10.59 | carols | sure |
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| 19:11.14 | LISPmob_Albert | you mentioned that you try to (wisely) balance the topics |
| 19:11.28 | carols | yes. |
| 19:11.33 | LISPmob_Albert | however I didn´t find any LISP (the protocol, not the language) project |
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| 19:12.02 | carols | so, again, keep in mind, this is also about the larger balance of projects. |
| 19:12.19 | carols | so it's not just about lisp |
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| 19:12.36 | carols | its about how many niche projects so we have vs. how many wide-range projects do we have |
| 19:12.40 | carols | every year a different makeup. |
| 19:12.47 | LISPmob_Albert | I understand that limited resources mean hard decisions :) |
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| 19:12.53 | carols | it's not just that we didn't accept you but did accept other lisp projects. |
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| 19:13.05 | carols | it's the other 416 applications and where they fall on the continuum :-) |
| 19:13.26 | LISPmob_Albert | sure! |
| 19:13.31 | carols | cool :-) |
| 19:13.36 | carols | i hope you have a nice rest of your day. |
| 19:13.42 | LISPmob_Albert | thank you very much for your time |
| 19:13.45 | carols | cheers. |
| 19:13.48 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 19:13.54 | carols | moving along! |
| 19:13.56 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:13.56 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is sabs with notice 'Senes Lab, University of Wisconsin-Madison' |
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| 19:14.04 | carols | senes lab folks |
| 19:14.04 | sabs | hi carols |
| 19:14.07 | carols | hey |
| 19:14.34 | sabs | what is the feedback for us? |
| 19:14.38 | carols | so a couple things. |
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| 19:14.50 | carols | 1) i personally think you are working are very interesting stuff :-) |
| 19:14.54 | carols | just a cool project. |
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| 19:15.10 | carols | but anyway, your ideas page was nicely structured but overall a bit sparse. |
| 19:15.43 | sabs | thanks... should we have more details? |
| 19:15.44 | carols | this project in particular i think needs to give students more context and information on each project idea so they can understand it |
| 19:15.57 | carols | yes. more details. a lot more background on where the idea came from. |
| 19:16.12 | carols | potential mentors as well so the student can ask questions if he/she needs to |
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| 19:16.43 | sabs | ok.. is that all? |
| 19:16.48 | carols | this is the sort of project that you need a lot of context to dig into. |
| 19:16.54 | carols | let me look over the rest of your application |
| 19:17.07 | sabs | we understand that |
| 19:17.16 | sabs | thx |
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| 19:18.05 | carols | so as i've said to a couple other folks, it would have worked a bit in your favor if you'd had another org to vouch for you. |
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| 19:18.13 | carols | i realize you might not have that, but just something to think about |
| 19:18.22 | carols | cross-collaboration in open source is nice :-) |
| 19:18.28 | sabs | would be great |
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| 19:18.38 | sabs | we are not aware of a similar org |
| 19:18.41 | sabs | any suggestion? |
| 19:19.19 | carols | also, i appreciate your answers on your application about not expecting mentors to disappear, but unfortunately, we've seen a lot of cases where mentors go away, someone steps in, and the student doesn't have a good experience. |
| 19:19.19 | sabs | I mean, are there current GSoC orgs that do molecular modeling by any chance? |
| 19:19.33 | carols | so if you think that wouldn't be the case here because you're all so familiar with the projects you should call that out |
| 19:19.49 | carols | um, i think there are some people in related fields. you'll need to email me offline for that. |
| 19:19.49 | sabs | OK, we should remark it next time |
| 19:20.02 | carols | that's all i can see for now. |
| 19:20.19 | carols | any other questions for me? |
| 19:20.30 | carols | thank you for waiting, btw. |
| 19:20.37 | sabs | OK, thanks, we'll try again next year, we'll put the feedback to good use |
| 19:20.42 | sabs | just to makes |
| 19:20.42 | carols | great. glad to hear it. |
| 19:20.50 | sabs | just to be sure |
| 19:21.05 | sabs | if we fixed those problems we would have a chance? |
| 19:21.25 | carols | oh, you had a chance without those problems. |
| 19:21.30 | sabs | great |
| 19:21.32 | carols | it's just a matter of who your competition is as well :-) |
| 19:21.41 | sabs | thanks for your feedback, we do understand it is competitive |
| 19:21.47 | carols | great, thank you. |
| 19:21.53 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 19:22.18 | sabs | one last question |
| 19:22.18 | carols | alright, moving along |
| 19:22.20 | carols | oh sure |
| 19:22.32 | sabs | there is no org this year that we could work with? |
| 19:22.38 | carols | there might be |
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| 19:22.49 | carols | just please email me, because it will take a more in-depth look for me to figure out |
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| 19:22.55 | sabs | great thanks |
| 19:22.58 | carols | and we have 30 people in queue :-) |
| 19:22.59 | sabs | bye |
| 19:23.00 | carols | cool |
| 19:23.01 | carols | bye |
| 19:23.05 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:23.06 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is Talad with notice 'AtomicBlue http://planeshift.top-ix.org/pswiki/index.php?title=GSoC_2013' |
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| 19:23.11 | carols | hi atomic blue |
| 19:23.12 | Talad | Hi |
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| 19:23.18 | Talad | how are you |
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| 19:23.41 | carols | good thanks. |
| 19:23.52 | Talad | we have been happily part of GSoC 2011 |
| 19:24.01 | carols | so in addition to all the other applications, did i mention we got a lot of games and video engines this year? |
| 19:24.01 | Talad | for one year only |
| 19:24.25 | carols | i really liked your ideas page, i think it is great. |
| 19:24.26 | Talad | I've seen a few |
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| 19:24.36 | Talad | we worked quite a bit on the ideas page, thanks. |
| 19:24.57 | carols | yes, i agree, it looks great. |
| 19:25.03 | Talad | do you have a max number of games you plan to have in each GSoC? |
| 19:25.25 | carols | max number? no. but in proportion to all the other types of orgs, we try to make it roughly equal |
| 19:25.38 | carols | but then also take into account that students are probably more likely to like games. |
| 19:25.40 | carols | so we favor that. |
| 19:25.44 | carols | so it's a balancing act. |
| 19:25.59 | carols | yeah, all the feedback here says this was about the numbers for this year. |
| 19:26.02 | Talad | I understand |
| 19:26.13 | Talad | is the fact you have another mmorpg engine selected a blocker? |
| 19:26.17 | Talad | worldforge |
| 19:26.39 | Talad | or you can have also 2 projects in the same domain? |
| 19:26.41 | carols | well, i can tell you there were other ones that have participated in the past and applied this year that didn't get in. |
| 19:26.51 | carols | we don't go into the process assuming we'll accept anyone. |
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| 19:27.07 | Talad | ok, anything we can improve? |
| 19:27.15 | carols | actually, not that i can see. |
| 19:27.20 | carols | i think your ideas page is great. |
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| 19:27.42 | Talad | will you like to see us appliying next year? |
| 19:27.47 | carols | this was just about cutting to balance our participation this year. |
| 19:27.53 | carols | yes, absolutely. please do. |
| 19:27.58 | Talad | ok, we will! |
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| 19:28.04 | carols | great, thank you! |
| 19:28.05 | Talad | happy GSoC. |
| 19:28.09 | carols | and thank you for waiting. |
| 19:28.11 | carols | happy GSoC. |
| 19:28.14 | carols | cheers. |
| 19:28.17 | Talad | bye :) |
| 19:28.21 | carols | alright, moving along |
| 19:28.23 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:28.23 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is badlogic1 with notice 'libgdx https://code.google.com/p/libgdx/wiki/GoogleSummerOfCode2013' |
| 19:28.25 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v badlogic1] by scorche|sh |
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| 19:28.27 | badlogic1 | hi carols! scorche: please also +v bach and Xoppa as well |
| 19:28.31 | carols | libgdx |
| 19:28.35 | carols | hello :-) |
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| 19:28.48 | bach | hi carols :) |
| 19:28.53 | Xoppa | hi carols |
| 19:28.59 | carols | ah, right. |
| 19:29.01 | carols | hi :-) |
| 19:29.10 | carols | so a few things |
| 19:29.21 | carols | firstly, your summaries on your ideas could use a little more information. |
| 19:29.30 | carols | some of them are a bit sparse |
| 19:29.40 | carols | but also, did i mention we got a lot of applications for games this year? |
| 19:29.52 | badlogic1 | understood, we tried to provide links to further discussion, but i guess more meat on the page itself doesn't hurt |
| 19:29.54 | carols | and game frameworks and video engines and and and... |
| 19:29.59 | badlogic1 | yes :) |
| 19:30.16 | carols | yeah, a little more meat would have been good here. |
| 19:30.18 | badlogic1 | we'll try to sabotage ogre and wesnoth next year (and bribe you with chocolate) |
| 19:30.44 | badlogic1 | apart from that, is the idea list page ok structuracll? |
| 19:30.48 | badlogic1 | *structurally |
| 19:30.49 | carols | aw, but i am unbribeable :-) |
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| 19:30.57 | carols | yes, structurally i think it looks great. |
| 19:31.11 | carols | oh also |
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| 19:31.34 | carols | did you possibly talk to catroid about them being an umbrella for you too? |
| 19:31.44 | carols | i don't know if you work together or not. |
| 19:31.54 | badlogic1 | not yet, but i'll talk to them sometime next week (i work at the campus) |
| 19:32.04 | carols | ok, great. |
| 19:32.15 | badlogic1 | last question: anything we need to improve in our application form? |
| 19:32.22 | carols | application looks good. |
| 19:32.26 | carols | quite extensive answers. |
| 19:32.31 | badlogic1 | can trim those down |
| 19:32.40 | badlogic1 | i understand you have a "few" more projects to judge :) |
| 19:32.40 | carols | eh, i like it that way :-) |
| 19:32.43 | badlogic1 | oki |
| 19:32.52 | carols | i like the fact that you've thought extensively about it. |
| 19:32.52 | badlogic1 | goody, i think that's it from our end, others are still waiting |
| 19:33.02 | carols | anyway, i'd have liked that much meat on your ideas page. |
| 19:33.07 | carols | great, thanks :-) |
| 19:33.09 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 19:33.12 | carols | have a nice weekend |
| 19:33.15 | Xoppa | thanks |
| 19:33.18 | carols | cheers. |
| 19:33.19 | badlogic1 | you too ciao! |
| 19:33.22 | carols | alright, moving along |
| 19:33.25 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:33.25 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is tgloeggl with notice 'Stud.IP http://docs.studip.de/gsoc2013/index.php/Main/IdeaList' |
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| 19:33.32 | carols | stud.ip folks |
| 19:33.36 | tgloeggl | Hi. Could you give studip`aklassen voice as well |
| 19:33.38 | tgloeggl | Hi carols |
| 19:33.51 | carols | hey there |
| 19:34.20 | tgloeggl | I followed the discussion so far, from what i've read - our ides list is not that good i guess... |
| 19:34.32 | carols | yeah, indeed. i was just about to say that. |
| 19:35.01 | tgloeggl | Well, we'll work on that next year. What about the application itself, was that ok? |
| 19:35.14 | carols | in an ideas list we're looking for a fleshed out summary of the idea, background information, potential mentors from your community, difficulty level, prerequisites for the students to have, etc |
| 19:35.22 | carols | let me look at that. |
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| 19:36.16 | carols | application looks ok. |
| 19:36.21 | carols | this was really about your ideas page. |
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| 19:36.50 | tgloeggl | Yeah, we had to little time to flesh it out. |
| 19:36.53 | carols | i would recommend you restructure and flesh it out for next year and try again. |
| 19:37.04 | tgloeggl | Yes, we will do that. |
| 19:37.07 | carols | great. |
| 19:37.10 | carols | any other questions? |
| 19:37.18 | tgloeggl | Thanks for the feedback, i guess that was it from me. |
| 19:37.19 | tgloeggl | nope |
| 19:37.24 | carols | ok, thank you for waiting so long |
| 19:37.30 | carols | i hope you have a nice rest of your day. |
| 19:37.49 | carols | moving along! |
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| 19:37.53 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:37.53 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is cryos|laptop with notice 'VTK http://vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/GSoC_2013' |
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| 19:37.58 | carols | vtk folks |
| 19:38.02 | cryos | Hi Carol |
| 19:38.31 | carols | hey there |
| 19:38.36 | cryos | Thanks for taking the time to do this, we would appreciate your feedback. |
| 19:39.02 | carols | of course. happy to. |
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| 19:39.21 | carols | i really like your ideas page, so i'm sorry to say you were not rejected because of that. |
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| 19:39.39 | cryos | That is great to hear you liked the ideas page. |
| 19:39.42 | carols | this looks like another unsatisfying case of us trying to accept new orgs and reject old ones. |
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| 19:39.56 | carols | even though i know it seems like participating once doesn't make you "old" |
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| 19:40.24 | cryos | I have seen a pattern, are open source science type projects still acceptable and exciting areas for the program? |
| 19:40.35 | carols | yes, indeed they are. |
| 19:40.47 | carols | and in fact, i believe we accepted a few of them this year? |
| 19:40.56 | cryos | We would really like to get more undergrads and grad students into open source scientific visualization and data processing, so it is disappointing to miss out. |
| 19:41.03 | carols | i know, i'm sorry. |
| 19:41.17 | carols | i can completely understand why it's disappointing, and i don't blame you. |
| 19:41.17 | cryos | You did, so I was curious what we might have improved, but can understand on the numbers. |
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| 19:41.54 | cryos | VTK is one of the oldest and most extensive toolkits in this area, and we really want to get more students involved. If it is worth applying again next year I will push for us to do so. |
| 19:41.56 | carols | if you have an org that you see on the accepted list that might be interested in working with you you could email me about that and see? |
| 19:42.09 | carols | i think it's absolutely worth applying. |
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| 19:42.33 | cryos | I can have a think about some projects that might fit the bill, and would love to get VTK back in next year if the program runs again. |
| 19:42.45 | carols | sure. email me and let's see if we can find something for you. |
| 19:42.46 | cryos | Thanks for your encouragement Carol. |
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| 19:43.03 | carols | of course. thank you. |
| 19:43.10 | carols | and sorry it wasn't a more satisfying answer |
| 19:43.15 | carols | did you have other questions for me? |
| 19:43.19 | cryos | Will do - thanks once again, we appreciate all the work you guys do in running the program and making the tough decision on which orgs get in and which don't |
| 19:43.30 | carols | of course. it's difficult every year. |
| 19:43.30 | cryos | No, I think you told me everything I need to know. |
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| 19:43.38 | carols | great, have a nice summer/winter |
| 19:43.40 | cryos | Thanks, and have a great weekend. |
| 19:43.43 | carols | cheers. |
| 19:43.46 | carols | alright, moving along! |
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| 19:43.49 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:43.49 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is bruening with notice 'Dr.Memory http://code.google.com/p/drmemory/wiki/Projects' |
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| 19:43.52 | carols | dr. memory |
| 19:43.55 | DrMemory|qin | hi |
| 19:43.58 | DrMemory|qin | carols |
| 19:44.01 | carols | hey, didn't i see an email about you guys |
| 19:44.01 | DrMemory|qin | thanks for your time |
| 19:44.02 | carols | ? |
| 19:44.09 | carols | like, this morning? |
| 19:44.12 | DrMemory|qin | yes, |
| 19:44.37 | carols | ok…you were talking to another org about an umbrella option? |
| 19:44.43 | DrMemory|qin | yes |
| 19:44.54 | DrMemory|qin | our tool is used for chromium |
| 19:45.08 | DrMemory|qin | so we emailed and ask about the possible of working with chromium |
| 19:45.10 | carols | ok, cool. |
| 19:45.16 | carols | let's pursue that offline. |
| 19:45.22 | DrMemory|qin | sure |
| 19:45.29 | DrMemory|qin | so this is the first time we apply, |
| 19:45.47 | carols | in terms of your application, what i can say is this: you seem to have provided a nice wrapper on your ideas page around your bug tracker :-) |
| 19:45.48 | DrMemory|qin | we would like to have some feedback about the why it is reject |
| 19:46.02 | carols | but the bugs aren't that fleshed out |
| 19:46.12 | carols | and don't have a lot of the information we're looking for on them. |
| 19:46.44 | DrMemory|qin | what kind of information on the idea list would be helpful? |
| 19:47.17 | carols | i'd recommend that if you apply again next year that you make an ideas page that only uses the bug tracker for supporting documentation and then has potential mentors, difficulty level, expertise required, and an extensive summaryon the page itself for each idea. |
| 19:47.46 | DrMemory|qin | I see |
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| 19:47.57 | carols | you've got a great introduction for students on that page but then the ideas themselves are hard to understand. |
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| 19:48.43 | DrMemory|qin | ok |
| 19:48.56 | carols | also, just a side note from your application |
| 19:49.13 | carols | the fact that both administrators are googlers actually worked slightly not in your favor. :-/ |
| 19:49.29 | carols | since you'd be relying on folks with full time jobs to take up the slack if mentors disappear |
| 19:49.46 | carols | which probably wouldn't be easy or give the students the best experience. |
| 19:49.53 | DrMemory|qin | I see |
| 19:50.07 | carols | i'd have liked to have seen you list people from your community who are willing to mentor if someone goes on vacation or whatever |
| 19:50.33 | carols | i hope that helps. |
| 19:50.42 | carols | any other questions? |
| 19:50.43 | DrMemory|qin | we make sure the people will be aviable then put name there |
| 19:50.48 | carols | i assume we'll talk offline. |
| 19:50.48 | DrMemory|qin | that's is very useful |
| 19:50.49 | carols | indeed |
| 19:50.55 | carols | cool, glad to help. |
| 19:50.58 | DrMemory|qin | thanks |
| 19:50.58 | carols | thanks for waiting. |
| 19:51.02 | DrMemory|qin | no, I do not have other questions |
| 19:51.03 | DrMemory|qin | thanks |
| 19:51.05 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 19:51.06 | carols | cheers. |
| 19:51.09 | carols | moving along! |
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| 19:51.12 | carols | !nextinline |
| 19:51.12 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is mfe with notice 'TuttleOFX https://sites.google.com/site/tuttleofx/gsoc-2013/ideas-list' |
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| 19:51.16 | carols | tuttleofx folks |
| 19:51.23 | mfe | Hello Carol :) |
| 19:51.33 | mfe | First application for us |
| 19:51.58 | mfe | Need some feedback on what we didn't do right |
| 19:52.08 | carols | on a very personal side note, i just watched brazil for the first time this past week. |
| 19:52.14 | mfe | :) |
| 19:52.24 | carols | anyway, on your ideas page, i would have liked like…1 or 2 more ideas? |
| 19:52.31 | mfe | ok |
| 19:52.34 | carols | i know you're probably small, but the list was a little short for my taste. |
| 19:52.50 | carols | i like the structure though, that was great. |
| 19:52.52 | mfe | we had but thought that as we are small it would be too much |
| 19:53.06 | mfe | ok |
| 19:53.15 | mfe | so more ideas and what else ? |
| 19:53.33 | carols | can i PM? |
| 19:53.39 | mfe | yes of course |
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| 19:55.45 | carols | ok, thank you for waiting mfe. |
| 19:55.48 | carols | any other questions? |
| 19:55.54 | mfe | no I'm good |
| 19:56.04 | mfe | thanks you very much for your time ! |
| 19:56.07 | carols | great, i hope you have a nice day |
| 19:56.08 | carols | cheers :-) |
| 19:56.10 | mfe | and have a great WE |
| 19:56.18 | carols | i will, i hope :-) |
| 19:56.22 | carols | moving along! |
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| 19:56.29 | carols | bitfighter folks |
| 19:56.31 | bitfighter|ducky | Sup |
| 19:56.31 | bitfighter|rapto | hello! |
| 19:56.33 | bitfighter|kaen | hello |
| 19:56.54 | carols | so did i mention we got a lot of game applications this year? |
| 19:56.59 | bitfighter|ducky | I heard that! |
| 19:57.01 | bitfighter|kaen | :) |
| 19:57.02 | bitfighter|rapto | Thanks for you patience carols |
| 19:57.07 | carols | it appears us supporting a lot of games has meant an overflow for us :-) |
| 19:57.14 | carols | yes, and thanks for waiting, i appreciate it. |
| 19:57.19 | bitfighter|rapto | After following along here (and seeing other's GSOC ideas pages). I've determined that our ideas page is horrid and makes me want to gag :) |
| 19:57.36 | carols | well, i don't know if i'd say that :-) |
| 19:57.42 | carols | but yes, it could use a bit of improvement. |
| 19:57.50 | bitfighter|rapto | I gather we need at least: skill level/mentors/backups/prerequisites/better organization/fuller ideas |
| 19:57.58 | carols | yes, indeed. |
| 19:58.04 | carols | you have summarized quite nicely. |
| 19:58.28 | carols | so combined with the fact that we got a lot of games this year, we were pretty harsh |
| 19:58.44 | carols | but i'd encourage you to apply again next year for sure |
| 19:58.56 | bitfighter|ducky | If we had those, would it improve our chances or would the amount of games and such just spoil it anyway? |
| 19:58.59 | bitfighter|rapto | ok, was there anything specific about the application? |
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| 19:59.07 | carols | it would have absolutely improved your chances. |
| 19:59.20 | carols | and who knows, maybe we would have accepted you because we were emphasizing new orgs so much this year. |
| 19:59.28 | carols | or maybe not, maybe there would have been something else entirely. |
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| 19:59.36 | carols | sure, let me look at the app |
| 19:59.57 | bitfighter|rapto | we had two vouchers: hedgewars and copyleft (both didn't get in, good folks) |
| 19:59.58 | carols | i very much like your organization description. |
| 20:00.02 | carols | please keep that. |
| 20:00.08 | bitfighter|rapto | and messed that part up in the application.. |
| 20:00.26 | bitfighter|rapto | OK |
| 20:00.41 | carols | overall, i would just say your application could have been more fleshed out? |
| 20:00.51 | carols | just some more extensive thought and answers to the questions? |
| 20:01.00 | carols | gsoc is a lot of work and we want you to recognize that in the app. |
| 20:01.00 | bitfighter|rapto | all right |
| 20:01.08 | carols | hope that helps. |
| 20:01.13 | bitfighter|ducky | Is there a fleshed out threshold? Like is there such thing as "too much info"? |
| 20:01.22 | bitfighter|rapto | we had a positive experience with GCI and so we'd thought we give GSoC a shot |
| 20:01.27 | carols | no, i would say not, actually. |
| 20:01.32 | carols | more information, the better |
| 20:01.35 | carols | on the ideas page, too. |
| 20:01.42 | carols | so long as it has structure, make it long. |
| 20:01.51 | carols | give it a table of contents and go to town :-) |
| 20:02.11 | bitfighter|rapto | I must become a salesman! |
| 20:02.12 | carols | it will make it easier for the students too |
| 20:02.26 | carols | indeed :-) |
| 20:02.31 | carols | any other questions? |
| 20:02.31 | bitfighter|rapto | Oh, one other question - would be considered too small an org.? |
| 20:02.37 | carols | no, not at all. |
| 20:02.44 | carols | we try to balance big and small orgs as well. |
| 20:02.46 | bitfighter|rapto | we have 4 active developers and thought that we could maybe handle 1 student :) |
| 20:02.55 | bitfighter|rapto | ah ok |
| 20:03.01 | carols | yes, that's understandable, and i think there's a place for you. |
| 20:03.07 | carols | just fix up the ideas page and try again. |
| 20:03.09 | bitfighter|rapto | OK |
| 20:03.10 | carols | no guarantees |
| 20:03.12 | carols | but there you go |
| 20:03.19 | bitfighter|kaen | sure. thank you very much :) |
| 20:03.21 | carols | of course |
| 20:03.23 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 20:03.30 | carols | hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 20:03.32 | bitfighter|ducky | peace |
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| 20:03.34 | bitfighter|rapto | thanks! I release you.. |
| 20:03.36 | carols | cheers |
| 20:03.40 | carols | moving on! |
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| 20:03.42 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 20:03.43 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is renstar with notice 'SunPy https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/GSoC-2013-Ideas' |
| 20:03.47 | carols | sunpy folks |
| 20:03.51 | sunpy|renstar | indeed |
| 20:03.52 | sunpy|renstar | hello |
| 20:03.56 | sunpy|keith | hi |
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| 20:04.27 | carols | i just want to start off by saying i like the sun. |
| 20:04.38 | carols | anyway |
| 20:04.45 | carols | you're ideas page looked great. |
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| 20:04.52 | carols | loved the structure and the ideas. |
| 20:05.05 | sunpy|renstar | great, thanks! |
| 20:05.22 | sunpy|cadair | Thanks, I was worried there wasn't enough. |
| 20:05.31 | carols | no, that was about right. |
| 20:05.40 | carols | any shorter and it probably would have been a problem |
| 20:05.52 | carols | but anyway, you seem to be a large org, maybe you could have had even more? |
| 20:06.00 | sunpy|renstar | actually we are quite small |
| 20:06.06 | carols | ah, ok |
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| 20:06.14 | carols | i was just going based on something from your app i saw |
| 20:06.28 | carols | "The SunPy project is large enough that it will not be difficult to find another mentor that is familiar with the project." |
| 20:06.38 | sunpy|renstar | ahhh, yeah, i see |
| 20:06.50 | sunpy|renstar | perhaps 'tight' is better than 'large' |
| 20:06.54 | carols | anyway, regardless. it would have helped you a bit to have another org vouch for you |
| 20:06.55 | sunpy|keith | hmm. perhaps "friends of SunPy" would have been a better phrase |
| 20:07.04 | carols | not the end of the world, just something to consider |
| 20:07.15 | sunpy|renstar | yeah, this is our first time with gsoc |
| 20:07.26 | sunpy|renstar | we've had other soc students from other programs last summer |
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| 20:07.57 | sunpy|renstar | but we can definitely look for an org to vouch next year |
| 20:07.58 | carols | it looks like we just had a lot of space this year as well :-) |
| 20:08.04 | carols | i'm feeling like a broken record here. |
| 20:08.14 | sunpy|keith | heh |
| 20:08.26 | sunpy|cadair | There is an awful lot of space. |
| 20:08.31 | carols | i actually don't see any other problems with the app or the ideas page. |
| 20:08.35 | carols | indeed there is :-) |
| 20:08.42 | sunpy|keith | that's good to know |
| 20:08.54 | carols | i would encourage you to apply again next year for sure. |
| 20:08.57 | sunpy|cadair | very encouraging. |
| 20:08.59 | sunpy|keith | anything that might help set us apart in the future? |
| 20:09.07 | carols | a couple more ideas might help? |
| 20:09.12 | carols | a vouch from another organization? |
| 20:09.26 | carols | maybe try to find an org to umbrella you this year and then use them to vouch for you next year? |
| 20:09.46 | sunpy|keith | yea, we applied with the PSF this year |
| 20:09.46 | sunpy|cadair | We are under the PSF now :) |
| 20:10.00 | carols | ah, cool :-) |
| 20:10.14 | carols | so then work with them this summer and see if you can reapply with a vouch from them next year. |
| 20:10.30 | carols | everything else looks good to me |
| 20:10.36 | sunpy|keith | sounds good. thanks for taking the time to give us feedback, carols! |
| 20:10.42 | sunpy|keith | keep up the good work with GSoC |
| 20:10.43 | carols | of course! |
| 20:10.47 | carols | happy friday, and thanks for waiting |
| 20:10.48 | sunpy|renstar | ok, so vouch plus hope to come up on the right side ofthe numbers game |
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| 20:10.51 | sunpy|renstar | thanks again! |
| 20:10.55 | carols | yep, indeed |
| 20:10.57 | carols | cheers |
| 20:11.00 | carols | moving along! |
| 20:11.00 | sunpy|keith | cheers |
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| 20:11.03 | sunpy|cadair | yes, thanks a lot, I have driven how 50% of the Uk while this has been going on:) |
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| 20:11.03 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:11.03 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is benlangfeld with notice 'AdhearsionFoundation http://adhearsion.com/gsoc' |
| 20:11.10 | carols | adhesion foundatioion |
| 20:11.11 | benlangfeld | Hello there carols :) |
| 20:11.12 | carols | wow |
| 20:11.15 | carols | foundation |
| 20:11.17 | carols | there we go |
| 20:11.19 | carols | hi :-) |
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| 20:11.48 | carols | can i pm? |
| 20:11.52 | benlangfeld | of course :) |
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| 20:15.48 | benlangfeld | So, I've noted your comments about extra background data on the ideas page, along with details of prereqs on ideas. I get the impression that the approach should be to throw everything relevant on the ideas page instead of leaving it up to further research? |
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| 20:16.31 | carols | um, the idea scenario would be that you research all the ideas further and then put those all on the page :-) |
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| 20:16.45 | carols | anyway, your page looks pretty good overall. |
| 20:17.58 | carols | hope you have a nice weekend :-) |
| 20:18.01 | carols | moving along! |
| 20:18.04 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 20:18.09 | carols | buddycloud folks |
| 20:18.10 | buddycloud | Hi Carol! |
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| 20:18.18 | carols | hi there |
| 20:18.29 | carols | ah, so |
| 20:18.38 | carols | have you guys ever worked with wordpress? |
| 20:18.50 | buddycloud | no besides setting up a blog. |
| 20:19.03 | buddycloud | Are you thinking of buddypress? |
| 20:19.17 | carols | oh jeez |
| 20:19.19 | carols | yes i am |
| 20:19.20 | carols | i'm sorry. |
| 20:19.23 | carols | my mistake |
| 20:19.24 | carols | hold please! |
| 20:19.31 | carols | it's been 3 and a half hours :-) |
| 20:19.43 | buddycloud | no worries. I admire your dedication. |
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| 20:20.21 | scorche|sh | carols: 4 and a half hours ;) |
| 20:20.30 | carols | yes, well, who's counting? :-) |
| 20:20.35 | carols | ok, so on the ideas page. |
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| 20:20.56 | carols | structure is good, but i would have liked like maybe 1 or 2 more ideas? |
| 20:21.14 | buddycloud | ok. |
| 20:21.39 | carols | i appreciate that you mentioned on your ideas page that this is a real job |
| 20:21.46 | carols | i completely agree, you should keep that :-) |
| 20:22.06 | buddycloud | I think that's important! We pushed hard last year (under the XSF) |
| 20:22.15 | carols | also, i would have liked more (less) difficult ideas as well |
| 20:22.32 | buddycloud | noted. |
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| 20:23.01 | carols | one of the questions we get a lot from students is if they don't know much coding, can they participate? and so in each ideas page we're looking for easy, medium *and* hard problems to answer to as many students as possible |
| 20:23.28 | buddycloud | That's good to know - we'll definitely apply next year with more of a spread. |
| 20:23.57 | carols | other than that, i think we liked your ideas page but just weren't wowed, and so when it came down to numbers you got cut :-( |
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| 20:24.15 | buddycloud | thanks for the feedback. |
| 20:24.24 | carols | of course. any more questions? |
| 20:24.29 | carols | sorry about the mixup. |
| 20:24.32 | carols | spradsheet issues. |
| 20:24.34 | buddycloud | That's useful. Thanks. |
| 20:24.38 | carols | spreadsheet issues. |
| 20:24.40 | carols | sigh. |
| 20:24.43 | carols | has more coffee |
| 20:24.44 | buddycloud | :) |
| 20:24.52 | carols | well, have a nice weekend :-) thanks for waiting. |
| 20:25.00 | carols | moving along! |
| 20:25.00 | buddycloud | Thanks for the feedback. |
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| 20:25.03 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:25.04 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is webchick with notice 'Drupal http://groups.drupal.org/google-summer-code-2013' |
| 20:25.06 | carols | drupal |
| 20:25.07 | webchick|drupal | Hi! :) |
| 20:25.15 | carols | hi webchick |
| 20:25.19 | carols | sorry about kicking you earlier |
| 20:25.24 | carols | but i was doing my schpeal :-) |
| 20:25.34 | webchick|drupal | No, *I'm* very sorry, I didn't realize what was going on. |
| 20:25.39 | webchick|drupal | thanks scorche for filling me in. :) |
| 20:25.45 | scorche|sh | =) |
| 20:25.46 | carols | now i thought i'd already provided feedback to someone about drupal's app? |
| 20:25.47 | webchick|drupal | we have two other Drupalists here: slashrsm|drupal and sumitk |
| 20:25.58 | carols | right, didn't sumitk already get the lowdown? |
| 20:26.00 | webchick|drupal | carols: Yes, we understand why we were rejected. It was for not having a proper ideas list. |
| 20:26.03 | *** mode/#gsoc [+vv slashrsm|drupal sumitk] by scorche|sh |
| 20:26.06 | carols | right, ok. |
| 20:26.06 | slashrsm|drupal | hi |
| 20:26.08 | webchick|drupal | So we will definitely work on that for next year. |
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| 20:26.11 | carols | so is there something i can help with? |
| 20:26.13 | carols | ok, great |
| 20:26.22 | webchick|drupal | I mostly wanted to communicate that we took this really seriously. |
| 20:26.32 | carols | oh, good, i'm glad to hear that. |
| 20:26.32 | webchick|drupal | And the Drupal Association is gearing up to be able to add strong support for GSoC management next year |
| 20:26.42 | carols | everyone's human. we understand. |
| 20:26.48 | carols | but competition is stiff. |
| 20:26.51 | webchick|drupal | So we no longer have to rely on poor GSoC alumnis who are trying to carry the ball forward when the "old guard" is busy building Drupal 8. :) |
| 20:26.54 | webchick|drupal | Yes, of course. |
| 20:26.56 | carols | so there's no room for error :-) |
| 20:27.03 | carols | cool glad to hear it. |
| 20:27.05 | webchick|drupal | We're also doing some detailed analysis of past GSoC years |
| 20:27.17 | webchick|drupal | to try and put together some marketing material around the benefits of the program for Drupal over the years |
| 20:27.23 | webchick|drupal | And drum up better community support |
| 20:27.23 | carols | that's good to hear! |
| 20:27.42 | webchick|drupal | And finally, I was just going to mention I added a feature request for melange for maybe a "template" of the ideas list |
| 20:27.49 | webchick|drupal | Since i notice most of the feedback here is about not enough details there |
| 20:27.57 | carols | so i have a solution that you can implement for that! |
| 20:28.00 | webchick|drupal | Oh? :) |
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| 20:28.19 | carols | yes |
| 20:28.24 | webchick|drupal | Awesome! |
| 20:28.25 | carols | you just like anyone else can edit this: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/making-your-ideas-page/ |
| 20:28.28 | carols | however you see fit |
| 20:28.36 | webchick|drupal | Oh, sweet. |
| 20:28.38 | carols | so if you'd like to make it different, please go ahead and do so :-) |
| 20:28.48 | webchick|drupal | Great, I'll take a look. |
| 20:28.49 | carols | and then other orgs can benefit as well. |
| 20:28.51 | carols | cool. |
| 20:28.52 | carols | thank you |
| 20:29.03 | webchick|drupal | Anyway, that's all I wanted to say, thanks for giving us the opporutnity, and hope we can participate next year! :) |
| 20:29.13 | carols | of course. thanks for waiting as well :-) |
| 20:29.18 | carols | i hope you all have a nice friday |
| 20:29.44 | carols | alright, moving along. |
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| 20:29.50 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:29.50 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is cgogn_ with notice 'CGoGN http://cgogn.unistra.fr/GSoC2013/' |
| 20:29.55 | cgogn_ | hi carols ! |
| 20:29.55 | carols | cgogn folks |
| 20:30.01 | cgogn_ | hiw are you ? |
| 20:30.02 | carols | hey, thanks for waiting |
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| 20:30.11 | carols | good thanks except for the impending carpal tunnel |
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| 20:30.31 | cgogn_ | :) so, what is the feedback for us? |
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| 20:30.56 | carols | so as with a couple orgs, i love the structure of your page and think it's great, and you could have used like maybe 1 or 2 more ideas :-) |
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| 20:30.58 | cgogn_ | we are a newbee org |
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| 20:31.29 | carols | indeed |
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| 20:31.50 | cgogn_ | so what did we wrong ? |
| 20:32.07 | carols | secondly, on your app, i know that you aren't anticipating people leaving the gsoc stead, but we wanted you to take into consideration that people can do things other than leave the project voluntarily |
| 20:32.14 | carols | and that the students can be left in the lurch on that |
| 20:32.25 | carols | the bus phenomenon, if you're familiar with it. |
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| 20:32.59 | cgogn_ | ok i understand |
| 20:33.03 | carols | also, i would have appreciated more information about your community and how you would use *that* to help retain students |
| 20:33.22 | carols | so all of those little things combined |
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| 20:33.31 | cgogn_ | we are effectively a little community |
| 20:33.34 | carols | and things didn't work out well for you this year |
| 20:33.38 | carols | understandable. |
| 20:33.44 | carols | a lot of our orgs are. |
| 20:34.18 | carols | i hope that helps a bit? |
| 20:34.26 | cgogn_ | we are scientific oriented |
| 20:34.27 | cgogn_ | is this a cause to ? |
| 20:34.35 | carols | nope, not at all. |
| 20:34.38 | carols | i like science. |
| 20:34.43 | carols | i prefer it to some other things :-) |
| 20:34.52 | cgogn_ | :) |
| 20:34.55 | carols | but anyway, this was about the application and a little bit about the ideas page |
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| 20:35.08 | carols | i would encourage you to brush up on both and try again next year |
| 20:35.22 | cgogn_ | ok, we will try, thanks for all |
| 20:35.26 | carols | great. |
| 20:35.30 | carols | any other questions? |
| 20:35.46 | cgogn_ | no questions, thanks ! |
| 20:35.50 | carols | ok great |
| 20:35.56 | carols | hope you have a nice summer |
| 20:35.59 | carols | moving along! |
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| 20:36.03 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:36.03 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is teammates|damith with notice 'teammates https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fAvYvQr0E93OsZgyneaXGX0jaMA-zptTIxqLn83xwN0/pub' |
| 20:36.05 | scorche|sh | I do not see damith anymore - is there anyone else here representing the teammates project? - please PM me in the next 30 seconds before we move on to the next in the queue |
| 20:36.13 | carols | sure, i can wait |
| 20:36.17 | carols | i need more coffee anyway |
| 20:36.24 | carols | 30 seconds is about how long that will take :-) |
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| 20:37.31 | carols | plays the jeopardy theme music |
| 20:37.42 | scorche|sh | ok - moving on - anyone from the teammates project can re-queue when they come back - otherwise, email carols |
| 20:37.48 | carols | alright, moving along |
| 20:37.49 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 20:37.49 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is rivanov with notice 'sevntucheckstyle http://sevntu-checkstyle.github.com/sevntu.checkstyle/gsoc-2013-ideas.html' |
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| 20:37.59 | rivanov | hi |
| 20:38.00 | carols | sevntucheckstyle folks |
| 20:38.02 | carols | hi |
| 20:38.32 | carols | so let's see |
| 20:38.45 | carols | i very much like the format of your ideas page |
| 20:38.54 | carols | but would have very much liked more ideas overall |
| 20:39.00 | carols | i assume you're probably a small group? |
| 20:39.17 | rivanov | yes we are small, we have only two ideas |
| 20:39.21 | carols | but do you think your codebase could use more than two projects to improve it? |
| 20:39.41 | rivanov | but under that ideas we have bunch of work (as small well defined tasks) |
| 20:40.01 | carols | indeed. that's great. |
| 20:40.10 | *** part/#gsoc Bojhan (~Bojhan@ip4da63989.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:40.11 | carols | and i'd love to see that sort of supporting material for all your tasks |
| 20:40.16 | carols | sorry, projects |
| 20:40.17 | rivanov | so it will be better to have more ideas? |
| 20:40.21 | carols | but more project ideas overall, yes |
| 20:40.29 | rivanov | Is it good idea, at next year, to register a organization could combine all derivatives from main Checkstyle project ? |
| 20:40.30 | rivanov | and each depended sub-project will have its ideas. |
| 20:40.59 | carols | yes, that i think is a great idea actually |
| 20:41.09 | carols | i would definitely encourage you to do that. |
| 20:41.13 | rivanov | >>supporting material for all your tasks |
| 20:41.22 | carols | yes |
| 20:41.24 | rivanov | can you explain this ? |
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| 20:41.52 | carols | supporting material, like links to bugs, use cases for the project, background on why you want it done, any mailing list archives that the project was discussed on, etc. |
| 20:42.12 | rivanov | ok, I see, thanks a lot |
| 20:42.21 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 20:42.24 | carols | any other questions? |
| 20:42.26 | rivanov | anything else to improve ? |
| 20:42.35 | carols | no, the rest of the application looks good. |
| 20:42.44 | carols | thank you for your work on that :-) |
| 20:42.45 | rivanov | ok, thanks. |
| 20:42.58 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 20:43.01 | carols | thanks for waiting. |
| 20:43.02 | rivanov | no more questions - thanks. |
| 20:43.06 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 20:43.11 | carols | moving along! |
| 20:43.13 | scorche|sh | I do not see whodaman anymore - is there anyone else here representing the tradelink.org project? - please PM me in the next 30 seconds before we move on to the next in the queue |
| 20:43.14 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:43.14 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is whodaman with notice 'tradelink.org https://docs.google.com/a/pracplay.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtDVxYA-85_4dF9INHlZQVNCMUVPdXlsc3R2dF9SRlE#gid=0' |
| 20:43.23 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v rivanov] by scorche|sh |
| 20:43.27 | carols | i got an email about trade link i believe |
| 20:43.32 | carols | we can move along on that one |
| 20:43.34 | scorche|sh | ok |
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| 20:43.46 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 20:43.46 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is boltrix with notice 'UmitProject' |
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| 20:43.51 | carols | umit folks |
| 20:44.09 | scorche|sh | umit|k0p: i assume you will do? - i didnt not see a PM |
| 20:44.16 | umit|k0p | yes |
| 20:44.18 | umit|k0p | here |
| 20:44.22 | carols | hi :-) |
| 20:44.23 | scorche|sh | s/not// |
| 20:44.23 | umit|k0p | boltrix: |
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| 20:44.26 | carols | thanks for waiting |
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| 20:44.36 | umit|k0p | http://dev.umitproject.org/projects/umitproject/wiki/GSoC2013Ideas |
| 20:44.37 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v boltrix] by scorche|sh |
| 20:44.41 | scorche|sh | oh, sorry |
| 20:44.41 | umit|k0p | it is our idea pages :) |
| 20:44.44 | boltrix | that is very important for us :) |
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| 20:45.09 | carols | your ideas page looks good. |
| 20:45.10 | umit|k0p | hi folks! |
| 20:45.30 | carols | i can tell you that this was entirely another veteran org falling victim to us wanting to make space for new orgs. |
| 20:45.39 | carols | we had this in a few places this year |
| 20:45.43 | carols | and you guys were one of them :-( |
| 20:46.09 | boltrix | what do you think we could have done not to fall victim this year? |
| 20:46.46 | carols | not have been an org that had participated in the past? |
| 20:47.05 | carols | this was just a matter of making space for orgs that hadn't participated before. |
| 20:47.15 | carols | i'm sorry it's not more satisfying :-( |
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| 20:47.42 | carols | but in some ways maybe it's good news, you did everything right on your application and your ideas page. |
| 20:47.57 | boltrix | I asked because there are orgs (like nmap) every year since 2005, and I thought that maybe there was something that we could have done different that would have made us look more interesting than the other veteran that stayed |
| 20:48.18 | boltrix | I'm glad to hear that :) |
| 20:48.25 | carols | we do have some orgs who have participated every year, but really only a handful. |
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| 20:48.42 | carols | and even they are subject to the whims of the gsoc balancing act too |
| 20:49.00 | carols | no one's guaranteed a spot. |
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| 20:49.09 | carols | so i'm sorry about that |
| 20:49.12 | boltrix | I'm sure, and I think this is a very good practice. |
| 20:49.25 | carols | i would encourage you to apply again next year. |
| 20:49.25 | boltrix | Don't be sorry, we're glad that we got the previous chances |
| 20:49.27 | boltrix | we're glad to had this chance |
| 20:49.28 | carols | that's great. |
| 20:49.28 | carols | thank you. |
| 20:49.40 | umit|k0p | yeah, it is good for the program for sure. :) |
| 20:49.40 | boltrix | and we think this was great for us anyways |
| 20:49.40 | carols | awesome :-) |
| 20:49.41 | carols | i'm glad to hear it |
| 20:49.49 | carols | thanks for waiting so long |
| 20:49.59 | boltrix | not a problem! we'll apply again next year |
| 20:50.04 | carols | great. |
| 20:50.04 | boltrix | wish you all a great summer! |
| 20:50.11 | carols | i hope you have a nice summer too :-) |
| 20:50.13 | carols | cheers. |
| 20:50.15 | umit|k0p | we will stay keep an eye on the program anyway :) |
| 20:50.18 | boltrix | thanks!! |
| 20:50.20 | carols | great |
| 20:50.23 | carols | moving along! |
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| 20:50.26 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:50.26 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is reviewboard|Chip with notice 'reviewboard https://hackpad.com/Student-Project-Ideas-vK8BOo8eOpe' |
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| 20:50.30 | reviewboard|mcon | hello! |
| 20:50.31 | carols | hi reviewboard folks |
| 20:50.33 | reviewboard|SMac | Hey! |
| 20:50.37 | carols | who can i pm from your org? :-) |
| 20:50.43 | reviewboard|mcon | hm |
| 20:50.51 | reviewboard|mcon | PM me |
| 20:50.55 | carols | ok |
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| 20:54.52 | carols | alright, moving along! |
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| 20:54.53 | carols | !nextinline |
| 20:54.56 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is tzikia with notice 'codebender https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JQllHqz7Iocu-lTVBPVkDEc6pL_3VuxZgu8ewZiCT88/edit?usp=sharing' |
| 20:54.59 | carols | codebender |
| 20:55.03 | tzikia | Hi carols |
| 20:55.19 | carols | hey there |
| 20:55.40 | carols | so in general, i can say i liked your ideas page |
| 20:56.00 | carols | however, i think the execution was very well-meaning and fell a little far of the target. |
| 20:56.22 | carols | for example, the ideas page would be a place where you'd welcome students to your project and tell them about you and what you do. |
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| 20:56.41 | carols | give them an application template if they decide to apply |
| 20:56.47 | tzikia | I see |
| 20:56.49 | carols | that sort of thing |
| 20:57.09 | carols | i like the format and the structure and the ideas |
| 20:57.20 | carols | but maybe just make it more of the cohesive experience of getting to know your project? |
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| 20:57.53 | carols | also, next thing. |
| 20:58.00 | carols | sounds like you guys are new and small? |
| 20:58.07 | tzikia | I get your point. Thanks for the feedback carols. |
| 20:58.20 | tzikia | Indeed |
| 20:58.29 | carols | that's ok, we like that sort of thing. however, we were a little concerned about your ability for your community to support the influx of students and worklaod |
| 20:58.33 | carols | workload |
| 20:58.46 | carols | i believe that you can probably handle it |
| 20:58.51 | carols | but you should speak more to that in the application |
| 20:59.18 | carols | we like what you're doing though. i appreciate the maker/arduino/etc space right now. |
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| 20:59.25 | carols | i'd encourage you to apply again next year. |
| 20:59.52 | carols | keep the format of the ideas page though :-) |
| 20:59.54 | carols | that was good |
| 20:59.57 | carols | just add more |
| 20:59.58 | carols | :-) |
| 21:00.11 | tzikia | Sounds right. We do have a tight community, partly due to our size, but I guess we should communicate the full-time commitments of most of our members better |
| 21:00.17 | carols | and btw, you don't have to make it a google doc just to impress us :-) |
| 21:00.30 | tzikia | Thanks a lot! |
| 21:00.31 | carols | just so you know. |
| 21:00.36 | tzikia | Haha |
| 21:00.44 | carols | you're welcome. thanks for waiting |
| 21:00.52 | tzikia | We use docs for everything anyway |
| 21:00.55 | carols | i hope you have a nice friday |
| 21:00.58 | carols | fair enough :-) |
| 21:01.05 | carols | any other questions? |
| 21:01.09 | tzikia | U2! |
| 21:01.16 | carols | cool :-) |
| 21:01.24 | carols | moving along! |
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| 21:01.29 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 21:01.36 | carols | ITK folks |
| 21:02.12 | scorche | pokes ITK|Matt-M |
| 21:02.41 | scorche | 30 seconds until we move on |
| 21:02.51 | carols | i guess not? |
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| 21:03.13 | carols | well, you folks can email me if you find you'd still like feedback. |
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| 21:03.20 | carols | moving along |
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| 21:03.23 | carols | comunes folks |
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| 21:03.53 | carols | alright, so a minor point first. |
| 21:04.03 | carols | comunes|s_a_m: you're there, right? |
| 21:04.22 | carols | hm |
| 21:04.31 | carols | i'll wait a beat before starting |
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| 21:04.52 | carols | hums the jeopardy music again |
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| 21:04.56 | gsocbot | scorche: Next in line is w9|copyleft|ipxe with notice 'copyleftgames http://gsoc.copyleftgames.org/' |
| 21:04.58 | carols | alright…moving along |
| 21:05.01 | carols | copyleftgames |
| 21:05.06 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | waves |
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| 21:05.13 | carols | hey guys, did i mention that we had a lot of games apply this year? |
| 21:05.24 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | only about a bajillion times |
| 21:05.33 | carols | alright, so that didn't help your case. |
| 21:05.45 | carols | what also didn't help your case is we were really disappointed with your ideas page. |
| 21:05.56 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | nods |
| 21:06.13 | carols | including, but not limited to, the fact that you used mockups from GCI for a GSOC project page |
| 21:06.35 | carols | :-( <--- I made this face. |
| 21:06.53 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | not a good face for you to be making, no |
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| 21:07.06 | carols | i know you guys participated in gci, which is great. |
| 21:07.10 | carols | but this is a different program. |
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| 21:07.21 | carols | and has different requirements and standards. |
| 21:07.30 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | ok |
| 21:07.34 | carols | cool. |
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| 21:07.44 | carols | any specific questions i can answer? |
| 21:07.47 | carols | thank you for waiting, btw. |
| 21:07.51 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | nope |
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| 21:07.55 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | got time for ipxe too? |
| 21:08.00 | carols | yes i do. |
| 21:08.03 | carols | hold on just a sec. |
| 21:08.10 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | (sine I'm the nominated stand-in for both orgs) |
| 21:08.26 | carols | ah, so this was a different case. |
| 21:08.38 | carols | we really liked ipxe's ideas page and ideas. |
| 21:08.41 | carols | and application. |
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| 21:08.57 | carols | but this year, like most years, we always struggle with the open source hardware space. |
| 21:09.22 | carols | i completely understand that a lot of it can be done without hardware. |
| 21:09.38 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | that being said at least having a chunk of hardware does help |
| 21:09.42 | carols | but it's sort of a point not in your favor if the students might need hardware in order to participate. |
| 21:10.00 | carols | and the bar was already set high this year from the other orgs' applications. |
| 21:10.04 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | fair enough, would it help (in the future) if we offered to provide hardware? |
| 21:10.09 | carols | somewhat. |
| 21:10.17 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | we'll keep that in mind |
| 21:10.20 | carols | but what about customs issues getting it to remote places? |
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| 21:10.29 | carols | and what if it's broken in shipping? |
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| 21:10.58 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | well network cards are fairly small, but the point is taken |
| 21:10.59 | carols | and how does the student prove they've got the chops for the project without the hardware? and do you delay the project if it gets stuck in shipping somewhere? |
| 21:11.04 | carols | anyway |
| 21:11.11 | carols | it's not insurmountable |
| 21:11.15 | carols | but it's just a higher bar |
| 21:11.27 | carols | and so when we were making tough decisions already… |
| 21:11.34 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | fair enough :-) |
| 21:11.38 | carols | :-) |
| 21:11.39 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | we'll try again next year |
| 21:11.48 | carols | awesome, please do. |
| 21:11.53 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | and might find another umbrella org to hide under again |
| 21:11.53 | carols | thanks again for waiting. |
| 21:11.57 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | no prob |
| 21:11.58 | carols | cool :-) |
| 21:12.05 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend |
| 21:12.09 | w9|copyleft|ipxe | you too! |
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| 21:12.14 | carols | cheers |
| 21:12.16 | carols | moving along |
| 21:12.19 | carols | !nextinline |
| 21:12.19 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is DLPeterson with notice 'PyDy https://pydy.org/gsoc_2013_ideas' |
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| 21:12.22 | carols | pydy folks |
| 21:12.34 | DLPeterson | hi |
| 21:12.41 | carols | hi there |
| 21:12.51 | carols | we'll get your other rep voiced here in just a sec. |
| 21:12.53 | carols | thanks for waiting. |
| 21:12.57 | carols | your call is important to us. |
| 21:12.59 | DLPeterson | Ok, no problem :) |
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| 21:13.26 | carols | scorche, could you voice moorepants too? |
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| 21:13.29 | carols | there we go |
| 21:13.31 | scorche | =) |
| 21:13.34 | scorche | sorry for the delay |
| 21:13.41 | DLPeterson | not a problem |
| 21:13.44 | carols | alright, so |
| 21:14.25 | carols | we seem to have gotten applications in about 5 different types this year :-P |
| 21:14.29 | carols | one of them was science projects |
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| 21:14.33 | carols | another was python projects |
| 21:15.00 | carols | i love your ideas page. i think you did a great job with it |
| 21:15.08 | moorepants | Thanks. |
| 21:15.09 | carols | right amount of ideas, and structured well |
| 21:15.10 | DLPeterson | Thanks! |
| 21:15.26 | carols | i can tell you're a smaller project, but you've still got a lot of breadth and depth there. |
| 21:15.34 | carols | have you guys participated under PSF before? |
| 21:15.41 | moorepants | We are talking with them now. |
| 21:15.45 | carols | alright. |
| 21:15.47 | moorepants | Haven't done so before. |
| 21:15.47 | DLPeterson | I was a GSoC student under PSU in 2009 |
| 21:15.55 | DLPeterson | but not with PSF. |
| 21:15.59 | carols | oh, cool! |
| 21:16.06 | carols | did you and i meet in portend? |
| 21:16.08 | carols | portland |
| 21:16.16 | carols | maybe that's someone else i'm thinking of |
| 21:16.18 | carols | anyway |
| 21:16.21 | DLPeterson | I don't think so :( |
| 21:16.33 | carols | we liked you guys, i would be happy to provide PSF some extra slots to accommodate you |
| 21:16.42 | moorepants | That sounds great. |
| 21:16.44 | DLPeterson | Well, that would be wonderful. |
| 21:16.46 | carols | you were rejected mostly as a matter of numbers. |
| 21:17.11 | carols | i would encourage you to apply again next year as well. |
| 21:17.12 | moorepants | Ok, I've been in contact with Terri and Florin and we've been trying to get something going with PSF. |
| 21:17.13 | DLPeterson | We had a hard time trying to figure out how to differentiate ourselves from SymPy |
| 21:17.20 | carols | keep the ideas page format, it's great. |
| 21:17.24 | carols | well, cc me on the email. |
| 21:17.27 | DLPeterson | Thanks, that is really good to hear. |
| 21:17.28 | carols | we can take it up offline. |
| 21:17.31 | moorepants | Ok, sounds good. |
| 21:17.37 | carols | thanks for waiting so long. |
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| 21:17.45 | moorepants | np |
| 21:17.47 | DLPeterson | No problem. |
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| 21:17.51 | carols | have a nice weekend. |
| 21:17.54 | moorepants | You too. |
| 21:18.01 | carols | cheers. |
| 21:18.02 | DLPeterson | Was there anything else you could suggest about our app? |
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| 21:18.11 | carols | honestly, no. it looks great. |
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| 21:18.16 | DLPeterson | Ok, thanks. |
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| 21:18.22 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 21:18.23 | DLPeterson | We'll be in touch via email. |
| 21:18.28 | carols | great |
| 21:18.30 | carols | moving along! |
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| 21:18.38 | carols | cell collective folks |
| 21:18.38 | systemsbiologist | hello |
| 21:18.41 | carols | hello |
| 21:18.48 | carols | that's a great nick you've got there. |
| 21:18.56 | systemsbiologist | haha thank you |
| 21:19.17 | carols | so a couple things. |
| 21:19.18 | systemsbiologist | thanks for all the time you've been providing feedback on all these projects |
| 21:19.25 | carols | of course, i'm happy to. |
| 21:19.38 | carols | a few things on your ideas page. |
| 21:19.59 | carols | i like the structure and the pretty pictures but would have appreciated at least a couple more ideas generally |
| 21:20.12 | systemsbiologist | ok |
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| 21:20.36 | carols | i would have also liked you to list potential mentors from your community for the projects (which would also have the double benefit of reassuring us you have a community to support the influx of students) |
| 21:20.36 | systemsbiologist | do you think the ideas we do have follow the expected format/depth/etc? |
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| 21:20.58 | systemsbiologist | ok |
| 21:21.07 | carols | format and depth look good to me. |
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| 21:21.16 | carols | but i would have liked a couple more ideas. |
| 21:21.22 | carols | 2-3 is really a bit sparse :-( |
| 21:21.26 | systemsbiologist | we had them listed for the specific ideas, but perhaps we should've provided a complete list at the beginning? |
| 21:21.28 | carols | even if they're fleshed out. |
| 21:21.33 | carols | yeah, i think so. |
| 21:21.37 | systemsbiologist | ok |
| 21:21.58 | carols | also, as i've said to a couple other folks, it would have certainly given you a +1 if you had an org who could vouch for you. |
| 21:22.17 | systemsbiologist | oh ok |
| 21:22.18 | carols | not a dealbreaker, but maybe something to consider for the summer. see if you can collaborate with anyone. |
| 21:22.25 | carols | just an idea. |
| 21:22.32 | systemsbiologist | perfect |
| 21:23.03 | carols | finally, you also suffered from the fact that we had a lot of applicants in this realm this year :-( |
| 21:23.10 | carols | so combined with the other stuff i mentioned... |
| 21:23.17 | carols | it didn't turn out well for you |
| 21:23.18 | systemsbiologist | also, when completing the app, we were concerned about a potential issue with not having an active IRC channel or mailing list -- we communicate with everyone through our forum... |
| 21:23.26 | carols | no, that's ok. |
| 21:23.30 | systemsbiologist | ok |
| 21:23.31 | carols | we didn't penalize you for that. |
| 21:23.35 | systemsbiologist | ok |
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| 21:23.41 | carols | good question though. |
| 21:23.53 | carols | anyway, i'd encourage you to apply again next year |
| 21:24.03 | systemsbiologist | it was the first time we applied, so this is a learning experience and we hope to be more successful next year |
| 21:24.08 | carols | great :-) |
| 21:24.10 | carols | i hope you do |
| 21:24.16 | carols | you've got super cool visualizations :-) |
| 21:24.25 | systemsbiologist | thank you! |
| 21:24.28 | carols | you're welcome |
| 21:24.31 | carols | have a nice weekend |
| 21:24.37 | systemsbiologist | thanks, you too! |
| 21:24.50 | systemsbiologist | and thanks for the feedback |
| 21:24.53 | carols | of course. |
| 21:24.55 | carols | cheers. |
| 21:25.01 | carols | moving along! |
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| 21:25.03 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 21:25.11 | carols | openintents folks |
| 21:25.13 | friedger | hi |
| 21:25.33 | carols | hey there |
| 21:25.54 | carols | yeah, this was another new vs. old orgs thing. |
| 21:26.10 | carols | i really like your ideas page, and you were in the running under our later cuts. |
| 21:26.31 | friedger | ok |
| 21:26.32 | carols | but we pruned some orgs that have participated before and yours was one of them :-( |
| 21:26.47 | friedger | we should have had some fresh ideas |
| 21:26.50 | carols | i'm sorry that's not very satisfying |
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| 21:26.58 | carols | yeah, maybe so. |
| 21:27.04 | carols | in general, though, your ideas page looks good. |
| 21:27.14 | carols | as does your application. |
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| 21:27.50 | friedger | ok, next year maybe |
| 21:27.51 | carols | some of our decisions really are just about making way for new orgs. |
| 21:27.57 | friedger | fine |
| 21:27.58 | carols | yes, please do apply again next year. |
| 21:28.06 | friedger | thanks |
| 21:28.11 | carols | you're welcome. thanks for waiting. |
| 21:28.22 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 21:28.29 | friedger | you too |
| 21:28.32 | carols | cheers. |
| 21:28.36 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 21:28.41 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is stefano-k with notice 'MATE Desktop Environment http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/gsoc:2013#ideas' |
| 21:28.44 | carols | MATE folks |
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| 21:28.48 | stefano-k | hi Carol :) |
| 21:28.56 | carols | you guys were in line early, i'm sorry you got moved in the queue |
| 21:28.58 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 21:29.09 | stefano-k | np :) |
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| 21:29.34 | carols | so i think i have a couple notes on your ideas page: |
| 21:29.41 | carols | we'd like the ideas to be more fleshed out. |
| 21:30.03 | carols | more background, information for a newcomer to get to know your project. |
| 21:30.13 | carols | the formatting is good, but you could use potential mentors listed as well |
| 21:30.29 | stefano-k | ok, we listed mentors before ideas indeed |
| 21:30.52 | carols | the number of ideas is pretty good. i surely wouldn't go less than that. |
| 21:31.00 | carols | maybe even more for next year :-) |
| 21:31.13 | stefano-k | thank you! |
| 21:31.24 | carols | you're welcome |
| 21:31.32 | carols | just one more thing |
| 21:31.45 | carols | i would have liked a more extensive answer about your plans for disappearing mentors |
| 21:31.49 | stefano-k | luckily we got a collaboration with fedora for this year |
| 21:31.53 | carols | we like to know you've really thought it out |
| 21:31.55 | carols | ok, great |
| 21:31.58 | carols | glad to hear it |
| 21:32.10 | carols | scorche, could you voice dan408? |
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| 21:32.25 | dan408 | hi, and thanks |
| 21:32.42 | carols | so please have fedora email me when we're doing slot allocations and i'll make sure you're both accomodated |
| 21:32.43 | dan408 | sorry i missed the beginning of the discussion. my name is Dan Mashal and I'm the MATE maintainer for the Fedora project |
| 21:32.48 | carols | hi there |
| 21:32.50 | carols | no problem. |
| 21:32.53 | scorche|sh | As a note folks, please PM me rather than carols for any concerns - she is busy typing ;) |
| 21:32.54 | carols | it's been a long day. |
| 21:32.58 | dan408 | im sure |
| 21:33.00 | stefano-k | carols: about disappearing mentors, you would like a precise plan about it? |
| 21:33.16 | carols | yes, indeed. we're really worried about the student experience here |
| 21:33.26 | carols | and while i'm sure you don't anticipate people leaving, you just never know. |
| 21:33.32 | carols | we want to make sure there's a safety net |
| 21:33.37 | dan408 | carols: we have a plan for disappearing mentors, probably the same plan for disappearing coders and packagers. |
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| 21:33.44 | stefano-k | ok thanks |
| 21:34.01 | carols | well, so you allude in your application to having a plan. |
| 21:34.01 | dan408 | in regards to background, what were you looking for? background on the project itself? or the ideas? |
| 21:34.06 | carols | but don't actually say what it is. |
| 21:34.21 | carols | part of the application is telling us what your plans are so we can assess you :-) |
| 21:34.29 | stefano-k | carols: yes, I forget to describe the plan, and the backup mentors |
| 21:34.40 | carols | yeah, so that in tandem with the ideas page. |
| 21:34.52 | carols | i'd encourage you to spruce it up for next year and apply again. |
| 21:34.59 | stefano-k | of course! |
| 21:35.03 | carols | great :-) |
| 21:35.06 | dan408 | carols: would you have any suggestions on ideas? |
| 21:35.17 | dan408 | or were we rejected mainly on lack of filling out the application properly? |
| 21:35.36 | carols | well, the ideas themselves are fine. but i would like more information on each, background for the students on why you want it as a project, potential mentors, etc. |
| 21:35.49 | carols | it's too sparse as it stands. |
| 21:35.53 | dan408 | i agree. |
| 21:35.58 | stefano-k | me too |
| 21:36.03 | carols | great. |
| 21:36.05 | dan408 | but i was asking if you had any ideas you would like to see added |
| 21:36.12 | carols | oh |
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| 21:36.16 | carols | only you can decide that :-) |
| 21:36.25 | carols | who am i to tell you what you need worked on? :-) |
| 21:36.46 | dan408 | suggestsions aren't insults ;) |
| 21:36.48 | stefano-k | hehe :) |
| 21:37.07 | carols | yeah, but i don't know your community or the intricacies of your codebase well enough to make that assessment. |
| 21:37.14 | dan408 | oh ok |
| 21:37.24 | dan408 | i guess maybe that's a question i could ask you offline |
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| 21:37.30 | dan408 | thanks |
| 21:37.32 | carols | sure, you're welcome to email me. |
| 21:37.35 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 21:37.38 | carols | thanks again for waiting. |
| 21:37.49 | carols | i hope you have a nice friday. |
| 21:37.56 | dan408 | so basically have a contingency plan for awol students/mentors |
| 21:38.00 | stefano-k | thank you carols |
| 21:38.00 | carols | yes. |
| 21:38.03 | dan408 | elaborate on the ideas |
| 21:38.06 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 21:38.08 | carols | yes. |
| 21:38.11 | dan408 | anything else? |
| 21:38.17 | carols | try again next year :-) |
| 21:38.21 | stefano-k | a vouching org, I believe :) |
| 21:38.31 | carols | you have a googler. |
| 21:38.38 | carols | at least, you list one on your application. |
| 21:38.42 | carols | which is good. |
| 21:38.48 | dan408 | cool |
| 21:38.48 | carols | we like that. |
| 21:38.48 | stefano-k | yes |
| 21:38.51 | carols | great. |
| 21:38.53 | dan408 | we like google |
| 21:38.54 | carols | so you're good there. |
| 21:38.56 | carols | i do too. |
| 21:39.12 | carols | and they don't even pay me to say that. |
| 21:39.14 | carols | anyway |
| 21:39.18 | carols | anything else i can help with? |
| 21:39.28 | stefano-k | I think it is enough |
| 21:39.28 | dan408 | hmm |
| 21:39.39 | dan408 | nothing that i can think of now |
| 21:39.41 | dan408 | thank you carols |
| 21:39.43 | carols | great. |
| 21:39.46 | carols | thanks to you both |
| 21:39.51 | carols | feel free to email if you think of anything |
| 21:39.53 | dan408 | thank you carols |
| 21:39.54 | carols | cheers |
| 21:39.56 | carols | moving along! |
| 21:39.58 | stefano-k | cheers |
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| 21:39.59 | carols | !nextinline |
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| 21:39.59 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is ryanstewart with notice 'Brackets https://github.com/adobe/brackets/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2013-Project-Ideas /w adrocknaphobia' |
| 21:40.03 | carols | brackets folks |
| 21:40.05 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 21:40.10 | carols | we're in the home stretch |
| 21:40.40 | scorche | ryanstewart: poke |
| 21:40.46 | carols | do we have brackets folks here? |
| 21:41.08 | carols | sips some coffee |
| 21:41.21 | carols | alright, 30 more seconds and then we'll move on. |
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| 21:41.59 | gsocbot | scorche: Next in line is friedger_ with notice 'OpenIntents http://code.google.com/p/openintents/wiki/GSoC2013Ideas' |
| 21:42.05 | carols | we did openintents? |
| 21:42.09 | carols | didn't we? |
| 21:42.14 | friedger | yes |
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| 21:42.17 | scorche | i thought so, at least |
| 21:42.19 | carols | ok |
| 21:42.28 | carols | so the brackets folks can email if they like |
| 21:42.29 | carols | so |
| 21:42.32 | carols | next in line? |
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| 21:42.40 | carols | !nextinline |
| 21:42.40 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is dhaun with notice 'Geeklog http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code' |
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| 21:42.44 | carols | geeklog folks |
| 21:42.50 | dhaun | hey carols :) |
| 21:42.54 | carols | hey there dirk |
| 21:42.55 | dhaun | hope the caffeine still works |
| 21:43.02 | carols | thanks again for all your help on the mailing list. |
| 21:43.08 | dhaun | np |
| 21:43.08 | carols | it really helps me out. |
| 21:43.34 | carols | let's see. |
| 21:44.16 | dhaun | I guess the revision of the ideas page you were looking at when doing the reviews was http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php?title=Google_Summer_of_Code&oldid=6268 |
| 21:44.33 | carols | this was another terribly unsatisfying decision. |
| 21:44.44 | carols | we had you in until our last round of cuts. |
| 21:45.00 | carols | i was quite happy with (both versions of) your ideas page. |
| 21:45.15 | carols | your application looks good as well. |
| 21:45.29 | dhaun | that's certainly good to hear |
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| 21:45.44 | carols | yeah, i'm sorry, i don't have a lot of good feedback for you. |
| 21:45.46 | dhaun | so what, if anything, could we have done better? |
| 21:45.54 | carols | i suppose a couple of your ideas could have had a touch more information? |
| 21:46.03 | carols | but really, that's splitting hairs. |
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| 21:46.19 | dhaun | I had that feeling with one or two myself - noted |
| 21:46.20 | carols | we really had to just cut some orgs that had participated before to make way for new ones. |
| 21:46.38 | carols | i'm sorry that's probably not very helpful :-( |
| 21:46.47 | carols | i would encourage you to try again next year. |
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| 21:46.51 | dhaun | it's okay, I figured as much |
| 21:46.56 | dhaun | will do |
| 21:46.58 | carols | alright, i'm glad. |
| 21:47.09 | dhaun | so the format of the ideas page with ideas being on separate pages is okay? |
| 21:47.13 | carols | sorry to make you wait for such an unsatisfying outcome. |
| 21:47.18 | carols | yes, that's fine. |
| 21:47.27 | dhaun | as I saw most other orgs put it all on one page |
| 21:47.30 | carols | we don't have any trouble clicking through :-) |
| 21:47.35 | dhaun | okay, great |
| 21:47.43 | carols | well, you managed to divide it out so it's obvious |
| 21:47.49 | carols | you didn't hide it at the bottom of the page |
| 21:47.53 | carols | so that's considerate |
| 21:48.01 | dhaun | cool, thanks |
| 21:48.04 | carols | anyway, try again next year? |
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| 21:48.27 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend regardless. |
| 21:48.30 | dhaun | will do - and thanks to Fedora, we'll be in GSoC 2013 with 1 slot |
| 21:48.38 | dhaun | thanks, you too :) |
| 21:48.40 | carols | great, glad to hear it. |
| 21:48.43 | carols | cheers :-) |
| 21:48.48 | carols | alright, moving along |
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| 21:48.53 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is jk_ with notice 'Simbios http://wiki.simtk.org/dissemination/SWIdeas' |
| 21:48.58 | carols | simbios folks |
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| 21:49.29 | scorche | jk__: hi |
| 21:49.37 | jk__ | Hi there |
| 21:49.45 | carols | hey there |
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| 21:49.59 | carols | so we got a lot of applications in the biology sphere this year :-) |
| 21:50.21 | jk__ | You've mentioned that you all were trying to include new orgs this year - do you have actual numbers of new vs. old orgs (accepted)? |
| 21:50.36 | carols | yeah, we accepted 177 orgs of which 40 are new. |
| 21:51.04 | carols | i loved your ideas page. and i love the stuff you are working on. |
| 21:51.07 | jk__ | Great to hear that lots of biology applications came through |
| 21:51.09 | jk__ | Thanks. |
| 21:51.21 | carols | are there any other accepted orgs on the list that you've worked with in any capacity? |
| 21:51.51 | carols | if you were able to set up an umbrella situation with any of them, that'd be great. but i realize it may or may not be possible for you. |
| 21:52.18 | carols | oh, ok |
| 21:52.33 | carols | um, i guess i'll move along then? |
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| 21:52.55 | scorche | carols: jk__ is still here |
| 21:52.55 | carols | anyway, let it be said for the record the simbios folks can email me if they have further questions. |
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| 21:53.06 | jk_ | sorry about that - lost connection |
| 21:53.10 | carols | no problem |
| 21:53.27 | carols | anyway, so i was just wondering if you could set up with another org this year. |
| 21:53.33 | jk_ | can we somehow contact other rejected apps in the bio field for collaborations (both inside and outside SoC)? |
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| 21:53.55 | carols | well, you're more than welcome to reach out to any org that came here today for feedback to collaborate with them. |
| 21:54.13 | carols | by virtue of them being in a logged irc channel they have said they'd be ok with people knowing they applied :-) |
| 21:54.21 | jk_ | And yes, the idea of looking for possible collaborations with exisiting SoC mentors is a good idea |
| 21:54.42 | carols | in terms of soc, though, please email me if there's any orgs who are participating who you might want to work with. |
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| 21:54.47 | carols | we can handle the logistics offline. |
| 21:54.49 | jk_ | OK |
| 21:54.50 | jk_ | Just curious if it might be something SoC could organize - in terms of promoting open-source collaborations in general |
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| 21:54.56 | jk_ | Lastly, any specific feedback about our app? |
| 21:55.06 | carols | i have a very tiny thing |
| 21:55.12 | carols | that really didn't matter to your application |
| 21:55.16 | carols | but just something to keep in mind |
| 21:55.19 | jk_ | sure |
| 21:55.34 | carols | you mention a name for a person who can vouch for your organization but don't list an email. |
| 21:55.45 | carols | it just would have helped to have an email is all :-) |
| 21:55.54 | jk_ | no problem - easily fixed in the future :) |
| 21:55.54 | carols | i don't specify it on the app, it was just a little thing |
| 21:56.03 | carols | other than that we loved your ideas page and your project |
| 21:56.11 | jk_ | great to hear! |
| 21:56.15 | carols | :-) |
| 21:56.19 | carols | we can chat offline |
| 21:56.20 | jk_ | thanks. |
| 21:56.27 | jk_ | yes, thanks. |
| 21:56.31 | carols | i hope you have a great weekend, and thanks again for waiting. |
| 21:56.35 | carols | cheers. |
| 21:56.36 | jk_ | you too! :) |
| 21:56.40 | carols | moving along! |
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| 21:56.43 | carols | !nextinline |
| 21:56.43 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is vruiz with notice 'Luxunda http://www.luxunda.es/gsoc-2013' |
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| 21:56.47 | carols | luxunda folks |
| 21:57.03 | vruiz | Hey there |
| 21:57.11 | carols | hey there |
| 21:57.13 | carols | can i PM? |
| 21:57.29 | vruiz | PM? |
| 21:57.34 | carols | private message. |
| 21:57.38 | vruiz | yes |
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| 22:01.09 | carols | alright! |
| 22:01.11 | carols | moving along |
| 22:01.14 | carols | !nextinline |
| 22:01.14 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is aetherlux with notice 'ClimatePrediction.net http://climateprediction.net/GSOC/' |
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| 22:01.20 | carols | climate prediction folks |
| 22:01.22 | aetherlux | hi |
| 22:01.26 | carols | hey there |
| 22:01.47 | aetherlux | we would like just to know first if our project fits in the GSoC |
| 22:01.52 | aetherlux | we had some doubts |
| 22:02.17 | carols | yeah, for sure. any project that's producing open source code already fits gsoc. |
| 22:02.33 | carols | however, there are a lot of influences that decide if you get _selected_ for gsoc |
| 22:02.43 | aetherlux | say us |
| 22:02.52 | aetherlux | what about the ideas? |
| 22:03.03 | carols | anyway, i was going to say that we like the way you formatted your ideas page but we would have liked a few more ideas. |
| 22:03.32 | carols | it's a bit short for a student to look into. |
| 22:03.45 | aetherlux | we'll have it into account, just that the guide said to put only one or two if you are new in the GSoC |
| 22:04.07 | aetherlux | maybe, the idea was to let them to propose a technical sounding solution |
| 22:04.21 | aetherlux | without too much conditioning from us |
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| 22:04.28 | carols | so we're also fine with the idea of students selecting their own projects. |
| 22:04.57 | carols | in which case, put that on there listed as a "blue sky idea" and give the students an opportunity to suggest their own. |
| 22:05.12 | aetherlux | which was the main problem? |
| 22:05.18 | aetherlux | the ideas page? |
| 22:05.20 | carols | but even then, i still would have liked 2-3 more ideas from you about what sorts of things you'd like the students to work on. |
| 22:05.27 | aetherlux | any other thing to note? |
| 22:05.27 | carols | yes, that was the main problem. |
| 22:05.48 | aetherlux | ok |
| 22:05.52 | carols | no, that was the main one. |
| 22:06.01 | carols | we really consider the ideas page the crux of the application. |
| 22:06.05 | carols | everything else looks fine. |
| 22:06.10 | aetherlux | will try it the next year |
| 22:06.13 | aetherlux | many thanks |
| 22:06.15 | carols | please do |
| 22:06.19 | carols | and thank you for waiting |
| 22:06.31 | carols | any other questions? |
| 22:06.32 | aetherlux | thank you for replying |
| 22:06.34 | aetherlux | no |
| 22:06.38 | carols | ok great |
| 22:06.39 | aetherlux | move |
| 22:06.41 | carols | have a nice weekend |
| 22:06.43 | carols | cheers |
| 22:06.46 | carols | !nextinline |
| 22:06.46 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is gjr with notice 'CloudNets https://projects.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/projects/cloudnets-framework/wiki/Ideas' |
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| 22:06.50 | carols | cloudnets folks |
| 22:07.28 | scorche | gjr: ping |
| 22:07.32 | carols | gjr: are you with cloud nets? |
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| 22:07.53 | gjr | Heya |
| 22:08.01 | gjr | Yes, I am |
| 22:08.03 | carols | hey |
| 22:08.06 | carols | thanks for waiting. |
| 22:08.23 | carols | i have feedback for you guys about your application much like for a lot of the other orgs. |
| 22:08.27 | gjr | Happy to - I am curious after all |
| 22:08.44 | carols | the ideas page generally needs some sprucing up |
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| 22:09.10 | gjr | More ideas? |
| 22:09.29 | gjr | Or more guidance on how to submit proposals? |
| 22:09.31 | carols | you need to flesh out a summary of the idea, and then include potential mentors from your community, prerequisite languages the student needs to know, difficulty level, and then any applicable background to get the student up to speed on the idea and your project. |
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| 22:09.40 | carols | a couple more ideas would be nice. |
| 22:09.57 | carols | but if you had fleshed out the ones you had that would have been a big improvement in and of itself. |
| 22:10.10 | gjr | Ok, we can do that the next time. |
| 22:10.41 | carols | cool. |
| 22:10.42 | gjr | Both of it really - there's a whole bunch of things that need doing in there. |
| 22:11.11 | carols | indeed. it's more about giving the students a lot of well-structured information in order to get them up to speed on what you do quickly. |
| 22:11.17 | gjr | I figured we might have to include more guidance already - looking at a few other ideas pages while waiting for my turn :-) |
| 22:11.21 | carols | and there isn't enough here as it is. |
| 22:11.34 | carols | well, i would encourage you to work on that and apply again next year :-) |
| 22:11.43 | gjr | Sure thing :-) |
| 22:11.54 | carols | great. |
| 22:11.55 | gjr | Thanks! |
| 22:11.58 | carols | did you have other questions? |
| 22:12.26 | gjr | Yes...did you manage to look at the rest of the project page? |
| 22:12.35 | carols | i did. |
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| 22:12.55 | gjr | We're a bit lacking in the documentation and number of developers departments - I was wondering whether that was a factor, too |
| 22:13.24 | carols | the documentation not as much. because if your ideas page is well fleshed out that can make up for a lot |
| 22:13.38 | gjr | Getting it out there in time for the registration deadline was a bit of a rush job, so that should be better next year, but I'm curious |
| 22:13.39 | carols | however, yes, we want to make sure you have enough developers to support the onslaught of students |
| 22:13.53 | gjr | Well, we were aiming for one or two anyway |
| 22:13.55 | carols | so the size of your community is important to us |
| 22:14.04 | carols | well, try again next year :-) |
| 22:14.10 | gjr | We're working on that :-) |
| 22:14.17 | carols | cool |
| 22:14.23 | carols | thanks again for waiting as well. |
| 22:14.29 | carols | i hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 22:14.40 | gjr | Thanks, you too! |
| 22:14.44 | carols | cheers. |
| 22:14.47 | carols | moving along! |
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| 22:14.53 | carols | we're almost there, folks |
| 22:14.55 | carols | !nextinline |
| 22:14.56 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is jjj with notice 'bbPress http://codex.bbpress.org/gsoc2013/' |
| 22:14.59 | jjj | Howdy |
| 22:15.00 | carols | bbpress folks |
| 22:15.02 | carols | hello there |
| 22:15.06 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 22:15.13 | jjj | ty for doing this |
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| 22:15.30 | carols | of course, i'm happy to. |
| 22:15.44 | carols | so we were a bit disappointed with your ideas page. |
| 22:15.57 | carols | you've given a nice structure and wrapper to your bug tracker :-) |
| 22:16.16 | carols | that's good for supporting documentation, but listing out bugs does not an ideas page make. |
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| 22:16.34 | carols | we need a summary of the idea, potential mentors, difficulty, languages, etc. |
| 22:16.44 | jjj | Good feedback. |
| 22:16.50 | carols | and then and only then would I recommend you link to bugs that help shape the idea. |
| 22:17.13 | carols | in terms of the number, though, it looks good. you just need to flesh each one out with all that info :-) |
| 22:17.21 | jjj | That makes sense. |
| 22:17.57 | carols | your answers on your application were a little bit terse. |
| 22:17.59 | jjj | We tend to use Trac for our development discussion; seemed superfluous to copy/paste the bits; but tacking on specific mentors to ideas was lacking. |
| 22:18.14 | carols | yeah, the ideas page is really something that needs to be crafted. |
| 22:18.18 | carols | it takes time and thought. |
| 22:18.23 | carols | it's difficult. |
| 22:18.32 | carols | so i'd encourage you to flesh it out this year and try again next year. |
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| 22:19.08 | carols | did you have specific questions for me/ |
| 22:19.09 | carols | ? |
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| 22:19.40 | carols | has some coffee |
| 22:19.58 | carols | still there? |
| 22:20.02 | jjj | Yep; typing... |
| 22:20.06 | carols | ah, ok |
| 22:20.08 | carols | sorry |
| 22:20.18 | carols | i've had too much coffee, i'm getting punchy. |
| 22:20.50 | jjj | No specific questions; WordPress has offered to allow us to participate under them, if they're allotted enough slots; so it seems we may not be totally out? Does that make sense? |
| 22:21.00 | jjj | (Same with BuddyPress, also) |
| 22:21.16 | carols | yes, that does make sense. |
| 22:21.20 | carols | and i think that would be great. |
| 22:21.32 | carols | please have them email me when we do slot allocations and remind me of this fact :-) |
| 22:21.39 | jjj | Will do; thanks. |
| 22:21.40 | carols | i forget these details sometimes. |
| 22:21.48 | carols | but id be happy to accommodate you under them |
| 22:21.56 | carols | great. |
| 22:22.06 | carols | anything else? |
| 22:22.11 | jjj | I'll be chiming in during BuddyPress feedback also; the dev that did the application is time-zone impaired at the moment. :) |
| 22:22.19 | carols | fair enough :-) |
| 22:22.23 | carols | we're down to five in the queue |
| 22:22.25 | jjj | Nope; not for bbPress. Thanks! |
| 22:22.29 | carols | hope you have a nice weekend regardless |
| 22:22.35 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 22:22.37 | carols | moving on! |
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| 22:22.40 | jjj | You as well; thanks. |
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| 22:22.42 | carols | !nextinline |
| 22:22.42 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is ojwb with notice 'Xapian http://trac.xapian.org/wiki/GSoCProjectIdeas' |
| 22:22.43 | ojwb | hi |
| 22:22.47 | carols | hey xapian folks |
| 22:23.09 | ojwb | only joined the queue recently, so if you'd rather i emailed, do say |
| 22:23.20 | carols | no problem at all. |
| 22:23.24 | ojwb | cool |
| 22:23.33 | carols | i actually don't have much of a satisfying answer for you :-( |
| 22:23.39 | ojwb | you started 4am local time, so I'm amazed to find it still going |
| 22:23.48 | ojwb | ah, i suspected as much |
| 22:23.49 | carols | i don't know if you saw that we rejected a lot of veteran orgs this year to make way for new orgs? |
| 22:23.53 | carols | anyway, yeah. |
| 22:23.59 | carols | we liked your ideas page a lot |
| 22:24.03 | ojwb | yeah, i've seen a lot didn't get accepted |
| 22:24.05 | carols | and everything looks fine on your app |
| 22:24.14 | carols | it was just a numbers game this year :-( |
| 22:24.38 | carols | i don't have much more satisfying things to say than that, actually :-( |
| 22:25.00 | carols | did you have questions for me? |
| 22:25.15 | ojwb | sure, i've been around for long enough to know it's just that way sometimes |
| 22:25.34 | carols | alright, i appreciate your understanding. |
| 22:25.39 | carols | i hope you will apply again next year. |
| 22:25.43 | ojwb | nothing really - looks like we've managed to accommodate our very keen student via debian at least |
| 22:25.51 | carols | well that's good to hear. |
| 22:26.02 | ojwb | we couldn't really see anyone appropriate to umbrella under though |
| 22:26.11 | carols | i suppose not. |
| 22:26.16 | carols | but feel free to email me if you do. |
| 22:26.27 | ojwb | ok |
| 22:26.32 | carols | sorry about that |
| 22:26.33 | ojwb | thanks for your time |
| 22:26.35 | carols | hope you have a nice weekend. |
| 22:26.38 | carols | cheers. |
| 22:26.47 | carols | moving along... |
| 22:26.49 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v comunes|s_a_m2] by scorche |
| 22:26.50 | carols | !nextinline |
| 22:26.50 | gsocbot | carols: Next in line is comunes|s_a_m2 with notice 'comunes http://kune.cc/#!comunes.wiki.318.529' |
| 22:26.50 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v ojwb] by scorche|sh |
| 22:26.52 | carols | comunes |
| 22:26.55 | carols | ah, did you come back? |
| 22:27.00 | comunes|s_a_m2 | hi :) |
| 22:27.03 | carols | hi :-) |
| 22:27.11 | carols | so a couple points for you |
| 22:27.13 | comunes|s_a_m2 | sorry, had some troubles |
| 22:27.20 | comunes|s_a_m2 | with the connection, i mean |
| 22:27.23 | carols | 1) we all had a lot of trouble loading your ideas page. |
| 22:27.35 | carols | in some cases it would take 30 seconds to a minute to load |
| 22:27.39 | comunes|s_a_m2 | ouch |
| 22:27.41 | carols | in some cases it timed out entirely |
| 22:27.59 | carols | so our review committee was…having a difficult time reviewing your app. |
| 22:28.32 | comunes|s_a_m2 | it sometimes happen because of server load :-/ If i new, I'd had given a gdocs page |
| 22:28.59 | carols | yeah, it's sort of one of those things that has to be perfectly perfect the first time around |
| 22:29.12 | carols | you had stiff competition from 416 other orgs. |
| 22:29.24 | comunes|s_a_m2 | yes, i understand |
| 22:29.27 | carols | and we have 5 days to review apps. |
| 22:29.30 | carols | so i'm sorry about that |
| 22:29.36 | carols | i managed to get your ideas page to load once |
| 22:29.41 | carols | and the ideas looked good |
| 22:29.48 | carols | but we do multiple review rounds |
| 22:29.55 | carols | and well, it wasn't loading every time for everyone. |
| 22:30.17 | comunes|s_a_m2 | i see... :( |
| 22:30.18 | carols | i hope you'll apply again next year |
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| 22:30.30 | carols | just moved the ideas page somewhere stable :-) |
| 22:30.53 | comunes|s_a_m2 | we try to eat our own food, using our own server/software |
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| 22:31.04 | carols | completely understandable. |
| 22:31.05 | comunes|s_a_m2 | but sometimes it's messy |
| 22:31.15 | carols | well, spruce it up this year and try again next year. |
| 22:31.20 | carols | the rest of your app looks good. |
| 22:31.22 | comunes|s_a_m2 | sure we will |
| 22:31.25 | carols | great. |
| 22:31.29 | carols | i also appreciate you waiting |
| 22:31.35 | comunes|s_a_m2 | you said "a couple points"? |
| 22:31.45 | carols | um, a couple points? |
| 22:31.50 | carols | oh! |
| 22:31.55 | carols | yeah |
| 22:31.56 | carols | hold on |
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| 22:32.28 | comunes|s_a_m2 | sure |
| 22:32.30 | carols | on the disappearing mentors question |
| 22:32.41 | carols | i noticed that you mention having backup mentors |
| 22:32.42 | comunes|s_a_m2 | yep |
| 22:33.03 | comunes|s_a_m2 | aha |
| 22:33.11 | carols | but i don't have a sense of how large your community is or whether it's able to support more students who need help if some developers disappear |
| 22:33.22 | carols | so i would just specifically mention that next year |
| 22:33.37 | comunes|s_a_m2 | mmm sorry i dont understand |
| 22:33.57 | comunes|s_a_m2 | we specified a mentor and backup mentor for each of the ideas |
| 22:35.04 | comunes|s_a_m2 | what should we specify exactly? |
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| 22:36.51 | comunes|s_a_m2 | carols? |
| 22:37.17 | scorche | hold on a moment - she may be having technical difficulties |
| 22:37.23 | comunes|s_a_m2 | sure |
| 22:38.06 | kblin | your feedback questions are important to us..... please hold the line.... feel free to hum 'par louise' if you feel like it |
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| 22:38.33 | *** mode/#gsoc [+o carols] by scorche |
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| 22:39.01 | *** mode/#gsoc [+o Guest87319] by scorche |
| 22:39.03 | Guest87319 | wow, that was a pain |
| 22:39.12 | Guest87319 | anyway, i'm having network issues |
| 22:39.18 | Guest87319 | please email if you have further questions |
| 22:39.26 | Guest87319 | i think we only had 4 people in the queue anyway? |
| 22:39.31 | Guest87319 | i'll be on email |
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| 22:39.52 | Guest87319 | have a nice day folks. |
| 22:39.55 | Guest87319 | cheers. |
| 22:39.57 | scorche | Guest87319: ok - shall i end the meeting then? |
| 22:39.59 | scorche | alright |
| 22:40.00 | Guest87319 | yes please. |
| 22:40.01 | Guest87319 | thanks |
| 22:40.06 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by scorche |
| 22:40.08 | comunes|s_a_m2 | oh ok |
| 22:40.20 | scorche | ----------------------END OF MEETING--------------------- |
| 22:40.56 | umccullough | \o/ |
| 22:41.01 | scorche | jenmylo: jjj: adrocknaphobia: atapiador-ging: davorb: kblin: please email carols about your concerns |
| 22:41.05 | kblin | thanks for flying #gsoc airlines, your captain today was carols, with take-off and landing being handled by the one and only scorche |
| 22:41.29 | meflin | that was the most bizare thing of the day |
| 22:41.43 | ojwb | ITYM the two and only? |
| 22:41.43 | scorche|sh | sheesh - 6 hours, 40 minutes is definitely a record setter |
| 22:41.47 | adrocknaphobia | what? |
| 22:41.58 | ojwb | adrocknaphobia: carols has network problems |
| 22:42.03 | adrocknaphobia | R U KIDDING ME?! |
| 22:42.07 | ojwb | adrocknaphobia: so email her for feedback |
| 22:42.12 | kblin | scorche|sh: I think 2008 was worse |
| 22:42.23 | scorche|sh | adrocknaphobia: these things happen - pardon our dust |
| 22:42.25 | meflin | kblin: wasn't around :) |
| 22:42.34 | adrocknaphobia | pffts. |
| 22:42.36 | scorche|sh | adrocknaphobia: she will address your concerns via email though |
| 22:42.44 | meflin | wasn't it 3.5 hours last year? |
| 22:42.45 | adrocknaphobia | I waited 7 HOURS! |
| 22:43.03 | meflin | yea well you waited 7 :P but stuff happens |
| 22:43.06 | adrocknaphobia | srsly google. get it together. |
| 22:43.07 | ojwb | hmm, you were after me and I joined the queue only an hour or two ago... |
| 22:43.15 | scorche|sh | adrocknaphobia: and i managed it - you dont think i know your pain? |
| 22:43.26 | scorche|sh | now, i will use my first break in about 7 hours to go pee.... |
| 22:43.39 | Perdu | Wow, 7 hours |
| 22:43.44 | ChipX86 | I think you guys deserve to call it a week |
| 22:43.47 | koda | scorche: wow, that's another record breaker :D |
| 22:43.56 | Perdu | Seriously, congratz to carols and scorche |
| 22:43.56 | koda | scorche|sh: ^ |
| 22:44.00 | meflin | one person I know joined 2 hours late and was ialready handled |
| 22:44.19 | kblin | ojwb: one might be an echo |
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| 22:45.08 | ojwb | kblin: btw, the single quote after the ideas page url is kind of annoying - it gets glued onto the URL, at least in xchat |
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| 22:45.49 | kblin | !unload Queue |
| 22:45.50 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:45.52 | kblin | !load Queue |
| 22:45.54 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:46.24 | meflin | for "staff" this was unexpectedly huge my hat is off |
| 22:46.27 | kblin | !queue kai's cool project http://kblin.org |
| 22:46.28 | gsocbot | kblin: I queued you at position 1 in the queue |
| 22:46.36 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 22:46.37 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is kblin with notice 'kai's cool project http://kblin.org' |
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| 22:46.54 | kblin | ojwb: hm, ok, I'll file a bug :) |
| 22:46.58 | ojwb | yeah, the link i get is http://kblin.org' |
| 22:47.14 | kblin | !unload Queue |
| 22:47.16 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:48.26 | scorche|sh | ojwb: yeah - that is up to the regex your client is using to identify URLs |
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| 22:49.00 | ojwb | scorche|sh: sure, just suggesting that it'd be more helpful not to have that character there |
| 22:49.09 | scorche|sh | but either way, it doenst *have* to have it, yeah |
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| 22:50.09 | scorche|sh | for all of those that PMed me asking: |
| 22:50.12 | scorche|sh | !logs |
| 22:50.12 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 22:50.19 | ojwb | scorche|sh: should you revert the topic? |
| 22:50.24 | scorche|sh | yeah |
| 22:50.41 | *** topic/#gsoc by scorche|sh -> Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the list of participating organizations for this year. |
| 22:51.38 | *** topic/#gsoc by ChanServ -> Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the list of participating organizations for this year. | If your org did not get a chance to participate during the meeting, please feel free to email carols about your concerns. |
| 22:52.22 | kblin | ojwb: I blame python.. ;) |
| 22:52.57 | meflin | what isn't there fault? |
| 22:53.32 | nemo | Wow. that took a while |
| 22:53.45 | kblin | !quit |
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| 22:58.04 | kblin | ojwb: ok, done.. :) |
| 22:58.08 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 22:58.09 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is kblin with notice: test |
| 22:58.14 | kblin | !unload Queue |
| 22:58.16 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:58.47 | ojwb | kblin: now that's what I call service |
| 22:59.50 | kblin | :) |
| 23:00.23 | kblin | I figured it'd take about as much time to fix this right now as it'd take to write a bug report so I don't forget |
| 23:00.57 | anish_ | that's kinda true.. |
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| 23:02.23 | kblin | scorche|sh: I wonder if we can automate that a bit more next year, with the voicing and all |
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| 23:03.43 | scorche|sh | kblin: yes, i was thinking that, though there is still a fair bit of manual work |
| 23:04.03 | scorche|sh | what with people being replaced, people changing nicks, other people from the org who need to be voiced, etc |
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| 23:04.11 | kblin | scorche|sh: or arguably we can teach gsocbot to say "your ideas page was ok, it came down to a numbers game, please try again next year" |
| 23:04.18 | scorche|sh | heh |
| 23:04.32 | kblin | and then we just need to override for the orgs where that's not the case ;) |
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| 23:05.36 | kblin | but yes, I agree, to do the voicing properly, you need something smart |
| 23:05.42 | kblin | like a human |
| 23:05.56 | kblin | or a lot of time to implement rename tracking and whatnot |
| 23:06.41 | RedJ_ | both of my proposals are done with HTML formating and all, but i haven't contributed anything to the organizations yet. |
| 23:06.44 | ojwb | voicing the person who listed it would cover a number of cases |
| 23:06.59 | scorche|sh | yeah - that would be easier at least |
| 23:07.38 | kblin | you could probably go for orgname|* as well |
| 23:08.50 | kblin | I'll give this a thought |
| 23:09.49 | koda | and to think this room was so quiet before the announcement |
| 23:10.07 | scorche|sh | it ebbs and flows |
| 23:10.14 | scorche|sh | and when this room flows, it really flows ;) |
| 23:10.24 | scorche|sh | we have set off FreeNode network alerts before... |
| 23:10.41 | kblin | right, but that was for the slot allocation meetings |
| 23:10.53 | kblin | or right before accepted students were announced |
| 23:11.29 | kblin | I think the slot allocation meetings make this channel scroll fastest |
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| 23:11.59 | kblin | closely followed by students calling !next about 5 minutes before the emails are sent out |
| 23:12.20 | scorche|sh | kblin: definitely - i was just talking in general |
| 23:12.22 | RedJ_ | !next |
| 23:12.26 | gsocbot | RedJ_: "next" is (#1) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens., or (#2) April 19th 16:00 UTC: Rejected org feedback meeting |
| 23:12.55 | gevaerts | !forget next 2 |
| 23:12.56 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
| 23:14.17 | kblin | anyway, off to bed I go |
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| 23:17.07 | harshadura | !logs |
| 23:17.08 | gsocbot | harshadura: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 23:17.35 | dfighter | hmm need to hurry up, student applications almost open and I'm not done with my application yet :( |
| 23:19.34 | harshadura | thought that irc logs of yesterdat meeting was open :/ |
| 23:20.07 | ojwb | harshadura: they are, though logs may not appear instantly |
| 23:20.23 | ojwb | the meeting only ended a short time ago |
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| 23:20.49 | harshadura | thank u ojwb, then i will check again later |
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