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| 01:51.46 | diablofanderr | whats goood |
| 01:52.08 | A1win | movement speed! |
| 01:52.58 | diablofanderr | what about movement speed? I'm not in the beta so i have no idea what the physics are like in d3 |
| 01:53.06 | A1win | hehe |
| 01:53.14 | A1win | I just meant it's a good stat in comparison to others |
| 01:55.08 | diablofanderr | hahaha i mean if were talking about +stats in items its probably low on my list of importance |
| 01:55.40 | diablofanderr | gahhh i just want this game right now |
| 01:55.50 | A1win | your priorities are wrong then ;) |
| 01:56.13 | diablofanderr | haha what about mf and plus xp and plus primary stat |
| 01:56.19 | A1win | http://www.clicktoloot.com/2012/03/best-passive-skill-in-game.html |
| 01:56.23 | A1win | yeah MF is good too |
| 01:56.45 | A1win | but that explains why movement speed is too |
| 01:57.02 | diablofanderr | yeah thats true |
| 01:57.15 | diablofanderr | i bet the time saved from your increase in movement speed is crucial |
| 01:57.37 | diablofanderr | as well as your increased efficiency to slay demons |
| 01:58.33 | A1win | mm, but 1% faster killing speed is less efficient than 1% increased movement speed, because movement is a larger part |
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| 01:59.10 | diablofanderr | anyways what about your concerns about d3 |
| 01:59.18 | diablofanderr | my concerns are about public games |
| 01:59.23 | diablofanderr | not so much about the chat |
| 01:59.34 | A1win | I don't care about public games, I have enough friends to play with |
| 01:59.55 | diablofanderr | i mean i agree ill have many friends playing too |
| 02:00.07 | diablofanderr | but don't you miss being able to join a trading game akin to d2? |
| 02:00.18 | A1win | I didn't play d2 much at all :P |
| 02:00.26 | diablofanderr | agg fine |
| 02:00.44 | A1win | just once through the content and then got bored |
| 02:00.51 | diablofanderr | fersher |
| 02:00.59 | diablofanderr | i feel it did you play after d3 got announced or something? |
| 02:01.09 | A1win | nah years ago |
| 02:01.15 | A1win | when it was quite new |
| 02:01.57 | A1win | after LOD was released, actually, bought them both in one box |
| 02:02.19 | diablofanderr | man |
| 02:02.29 | diablofanderr | i can't believe you didnt play that much |
| 02:02.32 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:02.32 | diablofanderr | i was straight addicted to that shit |
| 02:02.42 | diablofanderr | there isn't a game I've played more |
| 02:02.43 | A1win | I was more into FPS and RTS games around that time |
| 02:02.52 | A1win | err not FPS |
| 02:02.53 | A1win | hmm |
| 02:02.58 | A1win | what year was it though |
| 02:03.04 | diablofanderr | 2001 or 2002 |
| 02:03.06 | diablofanderr | not really sure |
| 02:03.28 | A1win | ahh right |
| 02:03.31 | diablofanderr | anyways i mean did you ever play sc2? |
| 02:03.33 | A1win | I was playing half-life and its mods |
| 02:03.37 | A1win | and making maps for it |
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| 02:03.39 | diablofanderr | yee |
| 02:03.42 | diablofanderr | counterstrike |
| 02:03.50 | A1win | not CS that much |
| 02:03.57 | A1win | sc2 as in starcraft? |
| 02:04.05 | diablofanderr | yeah |
| 02:04.15 | A1win | yeah sure, still got a map project going on for it ;3 |
| 02:04.27 | diablofanderr | i dunno man don't you just feel like the game feels empty? |
| 02:04.37 | diablofanderr | i mean other than friends playing |
| 02:04.40 | diablofanderr | there isn't much going on |
| 02:04.46 | A1win | I don't play it much |
| 02:04.50 | A1win | I just make maps :P |
| 02:05.06 | diablofanderr | even though i probably won't play public games that much or use chat all that often |
| 02:05.18 | diablofanderr | it adds that effect of feeling of being a part of a community |
| 02:05.40 | A1win | I think D3 communities will be on the web |
| 02:05.45 | A1win | rather than in-game |
| 02:05.45 | diablofanderr | i hope they add the # of ppl in game to 6 in an exp or something |
| 02:05.52 | diablofanderr | yeah thats true |
| 02:05.58 | diablofanderr | diablofans will blow up after release |
| 02:07.07 | A1win | hoping our blog will get some more readers after that ^^ |
| 02:10.35 | diablofanderr | any concerns at all? |
| 02:10.35 | diablofanderr | alright so if public games or chat isn't a problem for you |
| 02:10.47 | diablofanderr | or do you think it'll be an awesome game no matter what |
| 02:10.47 | A1win | mmh |
| 02:11.16 | A1win | it'll be awesome for a period of time, but no idea for how long |
| 02:11.27 | A1win | at some point it'll just start repeating itself too much |
| 02:11.32 | A1win | however |
| 02:11.39 | A1win | then there's RMAH |
| 02:12.05 | A1win | if it's profitable enough, it might not matter if the game repeats itself a bit :P |
| 02:13.22 | A1win | I guess my concern is that it isn't profitable enough |
| 02:13.42 | diablofanderr | haha it probably wont |
| 02:13.49 | diablofanderr | unless you're a really good mfer |
| 02:14.01 | A1win | I don't mean I'd make my living on it :P |
| 02:14.07 | diablofanderr | yeah |
| 02:14.22 | diablofanderr | but i really don't think you'll make a quick buck either |
| 02:14.35 | diablofanderr | i think mostly your sales will cover your purchases |
| 02:14.37 | diablofanderr | basically |
| 02:15.03 | diablofanderr | then again |
| 02:15.06 | A1win | I don't think I'm going to use money to buy gear, unless there's a very good deal |
| 02:15.13 | A1win | I can't afford that :P |
| 02:15.15 | diablofanderr | haha |
| 02:15.35 | diablofanderr | i think that it could be very profitable if you're a good mfer and get lucky often though |
| 02:15.44 | diablofanderr | you'd expect most rmah items to be 1 buck |
| 02:15.48 | A1win | but I am a huge powergamer, I'll play the game better than a lot of other people |
| 02:15.49 | diablofanderr | to 10 bucks at the most |
| 02:16.06 | diablofanderr | with 1-10 bucks being made on every sale |
| 02:16.13 | diablofanderr | with lets say one sale every day |
| 02:16.19 | diablofanderr | you're looking at a good 30 or 40 bucks |
| 02:16.21 | diablofanderr | a month |
| 02:16.23 | A1win | they can't be 1, blizzard takes a cut of 1.50e from every sale |
| 02:16.28 | A1win | (dunno about dollars) |
| 02:16.30 | diablofanderr | wait really? |
| 02:16.33 | A1win | yeah |
| 02:16.40 | diablofanderr | i heard they took that out or something |
| 02:16.44 | diablofanderr | maybe I'm wrong |
| 02:16.50 | A1win | why would they? |
| 02:17.16 | A1win | it wouldn't make any sense at all to not make a profit from it for themselves :x |
| 02:18.06 | A1win | it's not an mmo with a monthly fee like WoW |
| 02:18.28 | diablofanderr | word |
| 02:18.35 | diablofanderr | i thought i just read that somewhere |
| 02:18.44 | diablofanderr | or that they lowered it or something |
| 02:18.47 | PaNtsONhEaD | diablofanderr no they removed listning fees not selling fees |
| 02:19.01 | diablofanderr | ohhh ok they removed the listing fee |
| 02:19.08 | diablofanderr | but yeah i mean still |
| 02:19.09 | A1win | aah right, forgot about that |
| 02:19.19 | diablofanderr | your profits gonna be like 2-10 bucks |
| 02:19.23 | diablofanderr | depending |
| 02:19.27 | diablofanderr | on what the item is |
| 02:19.32 | diablofanderr | so my point still stands |
| 02:19.43 | PaNtsONhEaD | nah |
| 02:19.50 | PaNtsONhEaD | you can make alot more if its a perfect |
| 02:19.51 | A1win | why do you assume one item per day? |
| 02:20.03 | diablofanderr | i mean on average |
| 02:20.12 | diablofanderr | would you expect more than 30 items per month? |
| 02:20.27 | PaNtsONhEaD | a highend perfect legendary can sell for 3 or 4 digits |
| 02:20.40 | A1win | it depends on how good items you have to sell |
| 02:20.42 | diablofanderr | the max is 200 i heard |
| 02:20.54 | A1win | if you play in the top league so to say, you'll have a lot of good items to sell |
| 02:21.29 | diablofanderr | still |
| 02:21.35 | diablofanderr | i think unless you're at the top of the top |
| 02:21.42 | diablofanderr | you won't be making more than 50 bucks a month |
| 02:21.50 | diablofanderr | and you'll be making that if you're top notch |
| 02:22.06 | A1win | dunno, we'll see |
| 02:22.07 | PaNtsONhEaD | you are forgetting commodities |
| 02:22.19 | PaNtsONhEaD | thats where alot of cash is |
| 02:22.32 | diablofanderr | wut u mean commodities |
| 02:22.36 | A1win | also... people buy crappy items too if they think they're good |
| 02:22.50 | PaNtsONhEaD | gold,gems,matts,dyes and such |
| 02:23.01 | PaNtsONhEaD | plans |
| 02:23.19 | A1win | also people who are willing to spend money on video game items probably aren't that fond of their money to begin with |
| 02:23.36 | diablofanderr | i disagree with your last statement though |
| 02:23.40 | diablofanderr | unless you play wow |
| 02:23.48 | diablofanderr | most ppl like to save money |
| 02:23.59 | diablofanderr | you spend money on video games? |
| 02:24.04 | A1win | what do you mean? |
| 02:24.07 | diablofanderr | are you not fond of your money? |
| 02:24.15 | A1win | peoeple buy shitloads of gold for money in WoW |
| 02:24.19 | PaNtsONhEaD | I spend money on DLC,Games, XBLA, memberships |
| 02:24.32 | diablofanderr | yeah |
| 02:24.33 | diablofanderr | me too |
| 02:24.33 | A1win | even though you can easily make it in-game more than you need |
| 02:24.39 | PaNtsONhEaD | as I said |
| 02:24.51 | PaNtsONhEaD | commodities will bring in the good and easy bucks |
| 02:24.57 | diablofanderr | we'll see |
| 02:25.03 | diablofanderr | i just think most people will be spending what they make |
| 02:25.15 | diablofanderr | i mean how much easier is it gonna be to part with the money you made |
| 02:25.24 | diablofanderr | when you really want that SoJ on the market out there |
| 02:25.24 | A1win | I just mean there are people who spend money just to get stuff, not so much caring/knowing if they actually get the best deal |
| 02:25.53 | diablofanderr | yeah there of course will be the people who waste their money |
| 02:26.38 | A1win | keep in mind that this hasn't been done before, we might all get surprised by how it works out |
| 02:27.10 | A1win | there are a lot of players, and this time it's completely organized and legal |
| 02:28.44 | A1win | people even buy things that don't even benefit them in the game, like skins or such, in other games |
| 02:29.09 | diablofanderr | customization |
| 02:29.10 | A1win | or let's take Habbo Hotel for example, the developers are insanely rich by now |
| 02:29.14 | A1win | :P |
| 02:29.49 | diablofanderr | ok well |
| 02:29.52 | diablofanderr | another topic |
| 02:29.54 | diablofanderr | im tired of this one |
| 02:29.57 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:30.01 | diablofanderr | whats gonna be your first character and why |
| 02:30.14 | A1win | I wrote a blog post about it :D |
| 02:30.30 | A1win | monk, because of a lot of reasons |
| 02:31.20 | A1win | well I can show you a build that sums it up pretty nicely |
| 02:32.33 | A1win | just need to remake it first :P |
| 02:32.43 | diablofanderr | ok take your time |
| 02:32.54 | diablofanderr | im gonna roll monk as well |
| 02:32.58 | diablofanderr | probably |
| 02:33.03 | diablofanderr | or barb not sure yet |
| 02:33.03 | A1win | http://d3db.com/tool/calculator/monk/13752 |
| 02:33.05 | A1win | something like that |
| 02:33.36 | A1win | look at the synergy between sweeping wind, dashing strike and cyclone strike |
| 02:34.14 | A1win | also my friend is rolling barb so cyclone strike is even more awesome |
| 02:34.59 | A1win | then there are builds with more than just one spirit generator, I really like the every third hit system |
| 02:35.11 | A1win | makes the game more difficult :P |
| 02:35.17 | A1win | more challenging, that is |
| 02:35.35 | diablofanderr | fersher |
| 02:35.40 | diablofanderr | thats a cool build man |
| 02:35.47 | diablofanderr | whats your least favorite character |
| 02:35.50 | diablofanderr | mines dh |
| 02:36.44 | A1win | wizard because all the spells just do a thing and that's it... well I guess there are some synergies but I didn't find anything interesting enough |
| 02:36.58 | diablofanderr | i agree wizard seems lame |
| 02:37.14 | A1win | wizard's resources are also boring, just waiting to regain it |
| 02:37.25 | diablofanderr | i just don't like the dual energy system of the dh though |
| 02:37.47 | A1win | I like it, there are builds that generate discipline by using hatred, and hatred by using discipline |
| 02:38.02 | diablofanderr | yeah maybe i haven't researched it that much |
| 02:38.10 | A1win | one thing DH is lacking is fun AoE though, all of the attacks are just straight projectiles |
| 02:38.19 | A1win | except the weird ones like chakram |
| 02:38.39 | A1win | Crippling Wave is the most fun skill in the game that I've used so far |
| 02:38.55 | A1win | it's just so... how to explain it |
| 02:38.58 | diablofanderr | damn you for having played the beta |
| 02:39.02 | A1win | haha |
| 02:39.41 | A1win | there's no penalty in using crippling wave, and it's an aoe that hits everything around me (on the third hit) |
| 02:39.45 | diablofanderr | i dunno if you want AoE roll WD i say |
| 02:39.57 | diablofanderr | DH is stricly dps |
| 02:40.01 | diablofanderr | they way i hear it |
| 02:40.05 | diablofanderr | the way* |
| 02:40.30 | A1win | nah DH has some fun stuff like Vault and bola shot |
| 02:40.50 | A1win | and... well that's about it |
| 02:40.51 | A1win | :P |
| 02:41.09 | diablofanderr | also DH has that circle knife thing |
| 02:41.25 | diablofanderr | fan of knives i think it is |
| 02:41.40 | A1win | mm |
| 02:41.46 | A1win | which is lik crippling wave, but worse :P |
| 02:41.53 | A1win | it has a cooldown |
| 02:42.12 | diablofanderr | the only lame thing about the monk is no weapon animations |
| 02:42.14 | diablofanderr | wtf |
| 02:42.27 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:42.30 | A1win | nah it's fine |
| 02:42.39 | A1win | not really paying attention on them anyway |
| 02:42.44 | A1win | so much stuff around the character |
| 02:43.03 | A1win | spell effects blocking the view |
| 02:43.06 | A1win | or enemies |
| 02:43.21 | A1win | I'll see if I remember a dodge build I made, it was cool too... |
| 02:43.43 | diablofanderr | what you think the expansion characters are ognna be |
| 02:43.50 | diablofanderr | i think one of them is gonna be a pally |
| 02:44.08 | A1win | no idea |
| 02:45.09 | A1win | I think someone from blizzard was talking something about a character that had some demonic affections on itself, and they were thinking about it for the DH... can't remember what exactly they said, though they didn't say they'd do it for an expansion either |
| 02:45.34 | diablofanderr | they were thinking about giving the DH a possessed arm i think |
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| 02:49.34 | A1win | damn, can't remember what exactly this dodge build was about... other than it had Backlash on mantra of evasion and lots of dodge :P |
| 02:49.51 | A1win | oh yeah aoe around the character |
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| 14:53.29 | Rav3ncandy | Morning guys |
| 14:54.07 | Gaurav^_^ | ge |
| 14:54.11 | Gaurav^_^ | from me |
| 14:54.41 | Rav3ncandy | Evening :] |
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| 18:26.10 | rav3ncandy_ | Have any of you guys read any of the Hunger Games books? |
| 18:26.37 | Daemaro | Nope. Heard they were good though |
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| 18:54.03 | rav3ncandy_ | Yea I just started |
| 18:54.44 | rav3ncandy_ | I was just wondering, I read a pretty disturbing article about how pissed people were at the casting |
| 18:55.20 | rav3ncandy_ | http://jezebel.com/5896408/racist-hunger-games-fans-dont-care-how-much-money-the-movie-made |
| 18:55.27 | rav3ncandy_ | Made me le sad :/ |
| 18:55.47 | rav3ncandy_ | Too many stupid people in the world and nothing to eat them... |
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