| 00:00.11 | systemdlete2 | Or, conversely, anyone aware of any float bugs with the kernel itself? |
| 00:01.24 | systemdlete2 | I'm trying to avoid another foot-in-mouth moment... |
| 00:04.49 | systemdlete2 | wanders off to check on perl floating point issues... |
| 00:04.57 | gnarface | systemdlete2: i'm not familiar with any such issues off the top of my head but try installing amd64-microcode from non-free. if there is actually a glitch in the chip's hardware itself, that's where they would have put a fix |
| 00:05.23 | systemdlete2 | thanks gnarface! |
| 00:05.47 | gnarface | (also carries the specture/meltdown patches though too, so you may lose some performance, though not as much as the Intel counterparts do, so there's that at least...) |
| 00:06.33 | gnarface | i think you'll need to reboot for that package to be actually used but i'm not sure |
| 00:06.48 | systemdlete2 | I think I might already have those, but I'll double check anyway |
| 00:07.55 | gnarface | if you didn't, i think you might notice at most a ~10% performance hit for certain corner cases |
| 00:08.12 | systemdlete2 | turns out that I don't have it installed on that VM. Doing it now |
| 00:08.42 | gnarface | hmm, on the vm... for that package, i wonder if it matters that it is in the vm or not as long as the host has it though? that's one i don't know the answer to though |
| 00:09.26 | gnarface | maybe make sure you have firmware-linux-free, too. but it's rare for that one to be omitted accidentally |
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| 00:15.31 | systemdlete2 | I have firmware-linux-free already. And you were right; I will have to reboot |
| 00:15.48 | systemdlete2 | a bit of a nuisance, now that my desktop is all configured the way I want. |
| 00:16.07 | systemdlete2 | Can I save my open windows somehow (titles and cwd's)? |
| 00:16.51 | systemdlete2 | xfce, but I am using mate terminals |
| 00:19.20 | gnarface | hmmm, there are numerous ways but if you can use built-in xfce startup features that is the best probably |
| 00:19.38 | gnarface | there should be some way to make it try to save your session automatically |
| 00:19.41 | systemdlete2 | I do, but... ah well |
| 00:19.54 | systemdlete2 | it's just a nuisance, that's all |
| 00:23.43 | systemdlete2 | In xfce settings manager, "Automatically save settings on logout" checkbox. Thanks |
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| 03:00.07 | crashoverride | golinux: did you leave #devuan-offtopic |
| 03:00.09 | crashoverride | ? |
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| 03:24.48 | golinux | crashoverride: Obviously. Moved on to sometime more rewarding |
| 03:32.02 | crashoverride | golinux: look, it seemed that my reaction was inappropriately harsh and rushed. Please accept my apologies and come back on #devuan-offtopic. :) |
| 03:33.02 | golinux | Thank you. Perhaps a lesson learned? |
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| 03:34.31 | crashoverride | Well, I'm not sure. You're too much of an outlier on IRC to be reasonably useful input data. But I'll certainly make an exception :P |
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| 11:57.56 | gour | hello, by the wisdom acquired here, i did ceres --> chimaera move to settle on (more) stable releases...now i had to do some manual work to resolve firefox --> firefox-esr downgrade, but wonder if anyone can think about some similar package which might differ in unstable vs stable releases? |
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| 12:04.38 | inle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP9KWQ8hAYk |
| 12:04.42 | inle | Surprisingly calming and nice. |
| 12:05.17 | inle | Pardon, that's the wrong channel. |
| 12:05.40 | inle | In fact, it's the wrong the wrong network. |
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| 17:00.34 | I_am_nobody777 | Hi |
| 17:03.54 | gnarface | I_am_nobody777: if you have any questions just ask and try to be patient, it can be a slow channel |
| 17:04.38 | I_am_nobody777 | I've a minimal live devuan uefi image . I was hoping to do a minimal "chimaera" install with debootstrap , I've updated debian keyring , debootstrap , ca-certificates in the live system , but there is no chimaera script in debootstrap scripts directory . |
| 17:06.11 | I_am_nobody777 | gnarface: ok , |
| 17:07.06 | gnarface | you need a recent enough version of debootstrap |
| 17:08.03 | gnarface | i think the one from chimera and ceres are the same on but the beowulf one may be to old now |
| 17:08.25 | gnarface | and the debian one still won't work either i don't think |
| 17:14.23 | I_am_nobody777 | gnarface: So , I changed the source list to chimaera in the live system , synced the repo , updated the necessary packages (debian-keyring , debian-archive-keyring , debootstrap) and now the chimaera script exists , and debootstraping now . Thanks . |
| 17:21.37 | fsmithred | debootstrap in beowulf-backports has chimaera |
| 17:23.16 | I_am_nobody777 | fsmithred: Hi , thanks for the info , but I just finished debootstraping . |
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| 17:42.26 | rwp | I also think that a minimum debootstrap is small and targeted enough that a beowulf bootstrap and then immediate upgrade to chimaera is the same as a chimaera bootstrap. |
| 17:42.43 | rwp | I guess I should test that theory since it is easy enough to do and then I will know if I am spouting nonsense or not... |
| 18:16.05 | rwp | Looking in Beowulf I find that Chimaera can be debootstrap'd using "testing" as the alias name with no problem. |
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| 18:17.40 | rwp | The only thing needed to enable "chimaera" as a name is top create a symlink: ln -s ceres /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/chimaera |
| 18:18.33 | rwp | Or simply use the "testing" name for installation as it is the same at this point. Then for long term use modify sources.list to use the "chimaera" suite name. |
| 18:21.56 | rwp | I also highly recommend applying one of the fsync() patches for performance from: https://bugs.debian.org/700633 |
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| 18:37.12 | I_am_nobody777 | rwp: Thanks for your insight , but for now I am all set . |
| 18:44.01 | rwp | Happy to hear you are good to go I_am_nobody777! All good! However if you are asking then there will be many others asking the same questions too. |
| 18:44.41 | rwp | I use debootstrap frequently and it is worthwhile for me to know some of these details about it. |
| 18:49.27 | I_am_nobody777 | Good , Thanks . |
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