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| 00:55.05 | unixbsd | i tested XFS, it works pretty fine. what are the possible advantages of XFS over Ext4? |
| 00:56.21 | gnarface | primarily: faster reads, multithreading, larger max file size, and stability |
| 00:56.50 | gnarface | really the big down side i see is literally the delete times |
| 00:56.53 | gnarface | but it's not as bad as it used to be |
| 00:57.03 | gnarface | on beowulf the default xfs mount options are fine |
| 00:57.32 | gnarface | (in the old days you had to increase buffers and cache to the 32k max manually or something) |
| 00:57.54 | gnarface | (i don't even remember what that setting was actually increasing really) |
| 00:58.48 | gnarface | oh, it also (if you care) has built-in quota support and snapshot support can be easily bolted on through lvm |
| 00:59.07 | gnarface | hmm, and i think it can be grown live? |
| 00:59.19 | gnarface | oh, and for whatever it's worth the format time is WAY faster than ext* |
| 01:00.13 | gnarface | large single file write throughput might be slightly faster on ext4 |
| 01:00.20 | gnarface | i don't think by much |
| 01:00.37 | gnarface | but if you were say, video editing, it might be a toss up which to use depending on your file sizes |
| 01:00.55 | gnarface | especially if your video editing included a lot of actual recording or transferring |
| 01:01.14 | gnarface | but for a file server xfs is easily a superior choice |
| 01:12.00 | unixbsd | sounds great |
| 01:12.02 | unixbsd | loving it |
| 01:12.03 | unixbsd | thank you |
| 01:12.20 | unixbsd | the bottle neck is no mkfs.xfs -cc with bad sectots |
| 01:14.17 | gnarface | yea, you'd have to run badblocks separately |
| 01:14.39 | gnarface | make sure you get the block size right |
| 01:14.41 | unixbsd | it seems xfs has no list of badblock |
| 01:15.34 | unixbsd | is xfs fairly compatible between freebsd and devuan? |
| 01:16.02 | gnarface | can't say for sure, i would assume so just because they both got it from now-extinct Irix |
| 01:17.18 | gnarface | hmmm... |
| 01:18.58 | gnarface | actually feeding it a bad block list might be an issue |
| 01:21.08 | gnarface | though google says that you can use mdadm as a workaround |
| 01:21.17 | gnarface | (for btrfs too, apparently) |
| 01:21.38 | gnarface | i wonder if LVM would do it as well... |
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| 03:48.22 | gnarface | GNUmoon: if other distros can do it then it is possible, somehow. that comes to mind is the kernel version |
| 03:48.33 | gnarface | *the only other thing that comes to mind is the kernel version |
| 03:48.47 | gnarface | dunno what pop!os uses |
| 03:49.17 | gnarface | or i guess, maybe check for some other package with some different userspace tools or daemons |
| 03:49.45 | gnarface | also check the loaded kernel modules on pop!os |
| 03:49.58 | gnarface | i mean, i guess i had previously assumed you did all that, but maybe it's worth mentioning |
| 03:51.36 | gnarface | i know they don't all work but i also know there's some that have a trick to them |
| 03:51.43 | gnarface | i've just never used one, and i can't remember what it was |
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| 04:34.27 | GNUmoon | gnarface: oh yeah, forgot to say as I mentioned a few days ago, I updated the kernel to 5.7 via backports. |
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| 04:35.06 | GNUmoon | it must be a problem in user space the PopOS had the 5.4 kernel. |
| 04:36.34 | GNUmoon | Thunderbolt is a pain as it needs bios support, kernel, kernel modules, user space tools, etc all to work together... and it's not clear what the whole is meant to look like. |
| 04:36.48 | danuan | why would (cp -rv testdir1 testdir2) preform a differently on second run, ie on first it would copy testdir1 to tesdir2 and contents on second it would copy testdir1 in to testdir2/testdir1 and contents |
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| 04:40.33 | rrq_ | when testdir2 doesnt exist beforehand, the command effectuates the first synopsis option of the man page, and when it does exist, it effectuates the second |
| 04:44.26 | danuan | what would the reasoning be ? i know i can do testdir1/ to fix it |
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| 04:55.24 | danuan | testdir/* rather , but i still cannot wrap my head around why would it do that , what is the intent for that behavior ? |
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