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00:13.27mtnmanfirefox is barfing on me and complains of failure to open curl
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00:13.44mtnmanoops sorry for that funky paste
00:15.26tuxd3vmtnman, 'libcurl4' package provides the shared library
00:16.18tuxd3vwhat is the release you are using?
00:16.20tuxd3vascii
00:16.23tuxd3v?
00:19.59mtnmanascii
00:21.07tuxd3vI am in beowulf,
00:21.25tuxd3vwhat you are using should be the correct packages for ascii
00:21.54mtnmanwell firefox barfs but i did notice that libcurl4 is available in ascii
00:22.15tuxd3vdo a upgrade
00:22.47tuxd3vldconfig creates his cache in file '/etc/ld.so.cache'
00:22.50mtnmani wanted to do a fresh install, but have not had luck getting the installer to run on arm
00:23.21tuxd3vok so you are in arm
00:23.31tuxd3varm or arm64?
00:23.38mtnmanarm64 actually
00:23.44tuxd3vok
00:26.35tuxd3vwhat hapens when you run a 'ldconfig -v|grep libcurl --color' as root
00:26.58tuxd3vpaste the result of that in:
00:27.14tuxd3vhttps://paste.debian.net/
00:27.45mtnmanproblematic to post there since i don't have browser here
00:27.56tuxd3vyou right
00:28.02tuxd3v:)
00:29.18mtnmanhang on i think i have a way to post there from another machine
00:29.35tuxd3vdor you have this file '/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4'
00:29.50tuxd3vls -l /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
00:30.20mtnmanis that supposed to be aarch64 or arch64?
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00:30.36tuxd3vaarch64
00:30.41tuxd3vor arm64
00:31.05tuxd3vthe file name is correct :)
00:32.40mtnmanno such file or directory
00:33.28tuxd3vand
00:33.34tuxd3vls -l '/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3'
00:33.48tuxd3vsprry I forgot you have libcurl3 installed :S
00:34.08mtnmanalso no such file or directory
00:34.40tuxd3vthat is the problem
00:34.51mtnmanyes.
00:34.56tuxd3vdoes you sure you have libcurl3 installed?
00:35.14tuxd3vupgrade: 'apt-get upgrade'
00:35.28mtnmanyes it is installed i even just did apt-get install --reinstall libcurl3
00:36.25tuxd3vfind /usr -name licurl.so\*
00:36.42tuxd3vdo this, and check what you really have in /usr for libcurl
00:37.10mtnmani searched for libcurl.so from / earlier. it does not exist on this box.
00:37.31mtnmanthat is what i have been saying....
00:39.22tuxd3vls -l /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls*
00:39.29tuxd3vdo this
00:40.32mtnmanno such file or directory
00:41.09tuxd3vdoes you sure your filesystem have suficient space?
00:41.16tuxd3vfree I mean :)
00:41.22mtnmanit is pretty full
00:42.07mtnmanappears i have only 35 M free
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00:42.36tuxd3vmaybe you can delete something, or even beter compress a folder that you know that ocupy a lot of space..
00:42.48tuxd3vbeter -> better
00:42.59mtnmani should resize the partition. there's plenty of space on the sdcard
00:43.35mtnmani cannot remember where i saw instructions to resize a partition
00:43.49tuxd3v<PROTECTED>
00:44.15tuxd3vbut you need to do it with the filesystem unmounted..
00:44.28tuxd3vI mean in another computer :S
00:44.55tuxd3vimagine that your drive is /dev/sdb
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00:45.12mtnman/dev/mmcblk0
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00:45.26tuxd3vyes that is when the filesystem is mounted  :)
00:45.31tuxd3vin the arm machine
00:45.48tuxd3vbut I believe you can't resize with it mounted that's the problem..
00:45.53mtnmanoic
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00:47.18tuxd3vit his a bit dangerous, usually never bad hapen but we never know..
00:47.39mtnmanthere is nothing of consequence on this system
00:48.03tuxd3vso you only have one partition?
00:48.37tuxd3vlsblk
00:48.48tuxd3vto list the partitions you have
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00:49.13mtnmanthere is a boot partition and at least a system partition
00:49.57tuxd3vwhat is the one you want to expand
00:50.36tuxd3v7/dev/mmcblk0p3
00:50.48mtnmansystem partition is currently 1.5G and there is 117.5G free after that
00:51.11mtnman128M FAT32 boot partititon
00:51.49tuxd3vwhat is the partition number, like:
00:52.03tuxd3v/dev/mmcblk0p2?
00:52.13mtnman/dev/mmcblk0p2 yes
00:52.34tuxd3vok so you have partition 0,1,2
00:53.03tuxd3vyou need to remove the partition 2 and create it with another size( bigger )
00:53.23tuxd3vjust a second..
00:53.37mtnmani have mmcblk0p1 128M FAT32, mmcblk0p2 1.5g Linux
00:53.49mtnmancan i do that with cfdisk?
00:54.12tuxd3vmaybe I just do it with parted
00:54.27tuxd3vparted /dev/device
00:54.36tuxd3vprint
00:55.01tuxd3vsee the exact start and finish of the partition
00:56.01tuxd3vwhen you do 'print' command inside parted
00:56.10tuxd3vit prints the partitions with information
00:56.11mtnmanstart: 135MB   finish: 1747MB
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00:56.31tuxd3vyou are talking about partition 2 right?
00:56.44mtnman/dev/mmcblk0p2
00:57.12tuxd3vcan you paste the line from parted?
00:57.24tuxd3vjust copy and past the correspondent line
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00:58.24tuxd3vyou sure its that partition?
00:58.40mtnman100%
00:58.42tuxd3vif so
00:58.50tuxd3vyou just need to do:
00:58.56tuxd3vrm 2
00:59.00tuxd3vthen
00:59.42tuxd3vmkpart primary ext4 135MB 5GB
01:00.07mtnmanbut not on the running system,?
01:00.08tuxd3vin this case you create a partition that starts exactly in the same place
01:00.22tuxd3vand in this case it ends at 5GB
01:00.33tuxd3vthis for the partition table
01:00.49tuxd3vmaybe you can do this on the same system
01:01.11tuxd3vthe resize of the fylesystem is the one that needs to be on diferent place
01:01.28tuxd3vI just do all in another computer
01:01.36tuxd3vor unmounted
01:01.54tuxd3vbut for the partition I believe that you can do it with the partition mounted
01:04.07mtnmanwell okay... i did it with cfdisk (removed partition and createdn new, larger on in same starting spot)
01:04.24tuxd3vok
01:04.30mtnmandf -h shows the old partition size.  maybe i need a reboot
01:04.38tuxd3vSo now you have a larger partition
01:04.55tuxd3vBut your fylesystem is still yet on the older size
01:05.09tuxd3vyou need to do a:
01:05.30tuxd3vresize2fs /dev/device_partition
01:05.44tuxd3vbut this time with the fylesystem unmounted
01:05.51tuxd3vand this is the problem
01:06.02tuxd3vyou need to do it on another computer
01:06.12tuxd3vit needs to be unmounted :S
01:06.25tuxd3vbut now you just need to resize it :)
01:06.41mtnmanok powering off the arm system
01:07.35tuxd3vok
01:14.07mtnman_resize did not work.  the partition is now 215 M
01:14.28tuxd3vhumm
01:14.43tuxd3vdoes you sure you are resizing the correct one?
01:15.02mtnman_yes the correct partition is mmcblk0p2
01:15.22tuxd3vyou have it unmounted?
01:16.00mtnman_yes unmounted
01:16.22mtnman_it is currently running a system on mmcblk1
01:17.08tuxd3vso the mmc0 is free indeed
01:17.21mtnman_maybe i should run that parted command?
01:17.26tuxd3vyou need to do:
01:17.38tuxd3ve2fsck -f /dev/mmcblk0p2
01:17.42tuxd3vthen
01:17.56tuxd3vresize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
01:19.08mtnman_says rezize inot not valid. Recreate?
01:19.18tuxd3vno
01:19.44tuxd3vdon't recreate  because that will erase your fylesystem structure
01:19.57mtnman_inode 7 ha illegal blocks. clear?
01:20.04tuxd3vyes
01:20.04mtnman_assume no
01:20.08mtnman_oh!
01:20.15tuxd3vno problem :)
01:20.46mtnman_too many illegal blocks in inode 7.  clear inode?
01:21.13tuxd3vyes
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01:22.04mtnman_free blocks count wrong for group #0... fix?
01:22.10tuxd3vyes
01:22.38mtnman_more free blocks count wrong... assume fix?
01:22.45tuxd3vyes
01:23.07mtnman_ok FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED
01:23.16tuxd3vsee now its size
01:23.22tuxd3vdf -hP
01:23.29mtnman_215 M
01:23.35tuxd3vno way
01:23.51tuxd3vyou created a partition with what size
01:23.52mtnman_we need to run resizw2fs now?
01:24.02mtnman_partition is 10G
01:24.41tuxd3vit needs to give you a filesystem of about some 9, and some more bucks GB
01:25.06tuxd3vif you do:
01:25.20tuxd3vparted /dev/mmcblk0
01:25.26tuxd3vthen
01:25.28tuxd3vprint
01:25.35tuxd3vwha is the output?
01:26.03mtnman_this backup system doesn't seem to have parted
01:26.26tuxd3vho.. you don't have parted :S
01:26.37mtnman_gonna install it...
01:26.50tuxd3vyeah that would be great
01:26.53tuxd3v:)
01:27.02mtnman_running apt update...
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01:34.18mtnman_parted > print shows size of partition is 10.7GB
01:34.25mtnman_quit
01:34.29mtnman_oops
01:35.06tuxd3vcan you print the line, to see if partition starts at disirable place
01:35.51tuxd3vdisirable-> desirable
01:36.21mtnman_cannot cut/paste between machines... but the start is 135MB and end is 10.9GB
01:36.44tuxd3vit is ok
01:36.52mtnman_i am gonna mount the partition and check it with ls
01:37.00mtnman_i mean with df
01:37.06tuxd3vdo a resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
01:38.10mtnman_it says filesystem is already 2621440 (4k) blocks long. Nothing to do!
01:38.30tuxd3vit was already resized
01:38.48tuxd3vbut you say it has ~200MB of size :S
01:40.10mtnman_i think i was looking at mmcblk1p2.  after mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /mnt and checking, it is 9.9 GB
01:40.24mtnman_i guess reboot from the sdcard now...
01:40.44tuxd3vso its 9.9 GB is good :)
01:41.00tuxd3vyes now get back to your initial problem :)
01:41.03mtnman_i am gonna reboot the arm board now
01:42.33mtnman_okay back in devuan system...
01:43.05mtnman_df shows partition is 9.9G. okay...
01:43.25tuxd3vyou can now --reinstall libcurl :)
01:45.14mtnman_reinstalled libcurl3 but firefox still complains about libcurl.so
01:45.38tuxd3vfind /usr -name licurl.so\*
01:46.19mtnman_libcurl.so or licurl.so?
01:46.36tuxd3vit should be libcurl
01:47.10tuxd3vyou need to reinstall libcurl3-gnutls and libcurl3
01:47.37mtnman_apt install libcurl3-gnutls libcurl3
01:47.53mtnman_oops wrong keyboard
01:48.01tuxd3vapt install --reinstall libcurl3-gnutls libcurl3
01:48.19tuxd3vthen
01:48.22tuxd3vldconfig
01:49.23mtnman_ok did all that and ldconfig firefox-esr barfed again
01:50.02tuxd3vdo you installed something when your system was already without space?
01:50.11tuxd3vother than libcurl?
01:50.21mtnman_i don't remember
01:51.47tuxd3vdo you have libcurl4?
01:51.53tuxd3vavaillable in ascii?
01:51.59tuxd3vif so try it
01:52.07mtnman_no but it appears to be available on ascii
01:53.14tuxd3vfind /usr -name libcurl.so\*
01:53.19tuxd3vsorry
01:53.24mtnman_ascii shows four libcurl4 associated packages but not libcurl4
01:54.17tuxd3valso
01:54.29tuxd3vfind /usr -name libcurl-gnutls.so\*
01:54.58mtnman_find shows libculr.so.3 .4 and .4.4.0
01:55.30tuxd3vok
01:55.40tuxd3vnavigate to the location were it is
01:55.43mtnman_shows same for libcurl-gnutls
01:56.08tuxd3vmaybe '/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/'
01:56.11tuxd3v?
01:56.41mtnman_ok in the dir /usr/lib/arm-linux/arm-linuxgnubihf
01:56.51mtnman_ls
01:56.56mtnman_oops
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01:57.52tuxd3vmaybe '/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/' ?
01:58.06tuxd3vyou are in a arm64 bits os right? :)
01:58.45mtnman_ok in the dir /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf
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01:59.12mtnman_libcurl-gnutls.so.* are here
01:59.36mtnman_also libcurl-gnutls.so.*
01:59.39tuxd3vand the lubcurl.so* should also be there right?
01:59.55tuxd3vlibcurl
02:00.36mtnman_there is no libcurl.so! but there is libcurl.so.3 and .4 and .4.4.0
02:00.47tuxd3vright
02:01.05tuxd3v'ln -s  libcurl.so.3  libcurl.so'
02:01.25tuxd3vcreate a simbolic lynk for them :)
02:01.40tuxd3valso
02:01.55tuxd3vln -s libcurl-gnutls.so.3 libcurl-gnutls.so
02:02.16mtnman_okay but libcurl.so.3 point to libcurl.so.4 which points to libcurl.so.4.4.0
02:02.28tuxd3vno problem :)
02:02.35mtnman_should i just link to libcurl.so.4.4.0?
02:02.38tuxd3vits just like that :)
02:02.55tuxd3vyes you can do that too
02:03.21tuxd3vbut remember you are linking libcurl4
02:03.25tuxd3vnot libcurl3
02:04.08mtnman_i linked to libcurl3.
02:04.18mtnman_ran firefox-esr.  same crash
02:04.33tuxd3vdo a ldconfig now
02:04.47tuxd3vto update dynamic linker cache
02:05.09mtnman_okay ran ldconfig
02:05.49mtnman_then ran firefox-esr.  same behavior.
02:05.55tuxd3vthere are one thing in all of this that I find strange.. you said you were in a arm64 bits OS
02:06.04tuxd3vbut you are in armhf
02:06.06mtnman_yes
02:06.15tuxd3vnot arm64
02:06.18tuxd3v:(
02:06.36mtnman_oh... i did not realize the difference
02:06.48mtnman_yes you are correct its armhf
02:06.57tuxd3vok
02:07.03tuxd3v:)
02:07.20tuxd3vfirefox still continue to crash?
02:07.27mtnman_still crashing
02:07.46tuxd3vwith the same error, not finding libcurl.so?
02:08.06mtnman_same message: Failed to open curl lib from binary, use libcurl.so instead
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02:10.09tuxd3vI would suggest that you reinstall firefox
02:10.31tuxd3vI mean with '--reinstall' option to apt command
02:11.00mtnman_i just did. when i ran firefox-esr after that it still crashed but shows different error mesgs.
02:11.19mtnman_no actually same messages
02:12.02tuxd3vif you do:
02:12.04tuxd3vldconfig -v|grep libcurl --color
02:12.32tuxd3vit doesn't printout the libcurl and libcurl-gnutls shared libraries?
02:13.54mtnman_shows libcurl.so.4 -> libcurl.so.4.4.0 and libcurl-gnutls.so.4 -> libcurl-gnutls.so.4.4.0
02:14.31tuxd3vwait but you created symbolic links
02:14.53tuxd3v<PROTECTED>
02:14.55mtnman_i created one and it doesn't show up in output from ldconfig
02:14.56tuxd3vand
02:15.10tuxd3v<PROTECTED>
02:15.31mtnman_i actually linked libcurl.so -> libcurl.so.3
02:15.44tuxd3vtyhat is the correct way
02:16.27tuxd3vyou need to link both to same version
02:16.34tuxd3vif you go with version 3
02:16.40tuxd3vthen its 3 for both
02:16.56mtnman_ok i did not make link for libcurl-gnutls
02:16.58tuxd3vif you go with 4 then its version 4 of shared libraries for both :)
02:17.37tuxd3vok go to '/usr/lib/arm-linux/arm-linuxgnubihf'
02:18.03tuxd3vand
02:18.13tuxd3vln -s  libcurl-gnutls.so.4  libcurl-gnutls.so
02:18.25tuxd3vthen ldconfig
02:18.37tuxd3vthen try to open firefox
02:18.58tuxd3v:)
02:19.17mtnman_already did that but linked to .so.3 for both
02:19.51tuxd3vok
02:20.02tuxd3vdo a ldconfig
02:20.18tuxd3vto update linker cache
02:20.47mtnman_ok ran ldconfig
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02:21.04tuxd3vtry to launch firefox :)
02:21.31mtnman_still crashy mccrash.
02:22.28tuxd3vfor sure you installed something and you got out of space on disk :S
02:22.43tuxd3vdo one more thing..
02:22.57mtnman_should i apt-get install --reinstall all packages?
02:23.14tuxd3vyeah that would be the best option
02:23.31tuxd3vright now we don't know what package got afected..
02:23.51mtnman_d
02:24.21mtnman_oops.
02:24.37mtnman_is there an easy way to reinstall all packages?
02:25.36tuxd3vpt-cache depends firefox-esr
02:25.42tuxd3vshow the dependencies
02:26.00tuxd3vbut they are a lot and for sure some were already installed before..
02:26.19tuxd3vapt-cache depends firefox-esr
02:27.30tuxd3vcheck only for the '  Depends: ' options... they are a lot :S
02:27.46mtnman_is there an easy way to do a reinstall of the depends packages?
02:28.35tuxd3vI believe you need to copy and past package name after package name :S
02:28.47tuxd3vyeah..
02:29.05mtnman_maybe i will apt purge it all and then reinstall
02:29.19tuxd3vthat is an easier way
02:29.44mtnman_usually prefers the easier way
02:30.05tuxd3vapt-get remove --purge firefox-esr
02:30.08tuxd3v:)
02:30.11tuxd3vindeed
02:30.29mtnman_yes and then i did apt autoremove
02:30.46tuxd3vyes
02:31.19tuxd3vyou have already done it?
02:31.29tuxd3vblazing fast your sdcard :)
02:31.56mtnman_i have not done all of the packages yet...
02:32.02tuxd3v:)
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02:36.08tuxd3vwhat is your arm board name?
02:36.55mtnman_beaglebone black
02:37.07tuxd3vnice :)
02:38.21mtnman_its been pretty good for me
02:39.41tuxd3vit has a lot of gpio options
02:39.50mtnman_yes
02:40.55mtnman_ok i don't want to purge libc6 which is a dependency...
02:41.11tuxd3vright
02:41.37mtnman_i will reinstall that one separately
02:44.00mtnman_ok after purging some of those packages things the system is weird.
02:44.22mtnman_i think i will need to reinstall from scratch
02:45.39mtnman_thanks for spending your time with me but it seems we have failed.  my system is now unstabe and i will reinstall from scratch.
02:45.48mtnman_*unstable
02:48.39tuxd3vcan you install firefox back?
02:50.11mtnman_X is all messed up and i lost my xterms
02:50.20mtnman_i guess i could go to console...
02:50.53tuxd3vctrl+alt+f5
02:51.05tuxd3vtry to install firefox again if you can
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03:02.33mtnman_ok now it boots to console, no X
03:03.21tuxd3vyeah it should have purged X packages :S
03:03.34tuxd3vwhat was the environment you had installed?
03:03.44mtnman_xfce
03:03.56tuxd3vcan you reinstall it?
03:04.08tuxd3vit will pull the needed packages for X
03:04.19tuxd3vjust an idea
03:05.27mtnman_installing xfce4
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03:09.12mtnman_after installing xfce4 it still boots to console
03:10.03tuxd3vif you press ctrl+alt+f7 it doesn't go to graphic mode?
03:11.20tuxd3vif you do 'startx'
03:11.23mtnman_no X on tty7. also startx fails.
03:11.27tuxd3vit doesn't start?
03:11.33mtnman_no
03:11.43mtnman_gbm failed to open any driver
03:13.34tuxd3vif you type 'which startxfce4' what is the result
03:15.21mtnman_/usr/bin/startxfce4
03:15.40tuxd3vif you run:
03:15.50tuxd3v/usr/bin/startxfce4 &
03:15.56tuxd3vdoes it start?
03:16.39mtnman_it goes to a blank screen which appears to be on tty7
03:17.09mtnman_same behavior when i ran startx
03:18.25tuxd3vand installing x server stuff doesn't help?
03:18.35tuxd3vapt-get install xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-evdev?
03:20.34mtnman_apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-evdev
03:20.43mtnman_oops wrong keyboard again
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03:24.05mtnman_same behaviour... blank screen on tty7
03:25.04tuxd3vyou have slim session manager installed too I believe
03:25.18tuxd3vhow does you logged in in xfce4?
03:28.19tuxd3vwell I think something went south :(
03:30.30mtnman_yes it went south. i have food on the stove, so am stepping away from this for a bit.
03:32.01tuxd3vmtnman_, I am sorry for not beign able to help :(
03:40.27mtnman_thanks anyhow.
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09:58.40openbsdtai123guys, ascii devuan fails to format the ext3 mkfs.ext3 on sdb2... since several months. it hands at writing superbooloks and filesystem...
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17:37.40freemangordontrying to install libdbus-1-3-dbgsym results in:
17:37.40freemangordonlibdbus-1-3-dbgsym : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (= 1.12.20-0+deb10u1) but 1.12.16-1+devuan2 is to be installed
17:39.06freemangordonseems we have 2 problems:
17:39.06freemangordon1. devuan dbus lags behind debian
17:39.06freemangordon2. devuan does not provide dbgsym packages or at least I was not able to find the repo
17:39.18freemangordonany hints?
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17:51.15fsmithredfreemangordon, are you in beowulf?
17:57.06fsmithreddecide whether you're in beowulf (1.12.16-1+devuan2) or chimaera (1.12.20-1+devuan1)
17:57.14fsmithredmaybe your sources are screwed up?
17:58.48freemangordonyes, in beowulf
17:59.14fsmithredso why does it want the chimaera/ceres version?
17:59.38freemangordondeb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ buster-debug main
17:59.48freemangordonthis is what I have added in sources
17:59.56fsmithredthat might be the problem
18:00.00fsmithredjust use devuan sources
18:00.18freemangordonwhat is devuan repo for -dbgsym packages?
18:00.29fsmithredsame as for other packages
18:00.35freemangordonhmm, no
18:00.37fsmithredyes
18:00.50freemangordonbecause debian has separate repo, see ^^^
18:00.55freemangordondebian-debug
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18:01.46fsmithredok, add the debian debug repo if you'[re running debian. Do not add it if you're running devuan.
18:01.55fsmithredapt-cache policy libdbus-1-3*
18:01.55freemangordonfsmithred: :)
18:01.58fsmithreddon't post output here
18:02.01fsmithredjust read it
18:02.03freemangordonok, lemme check
18:02.11fsmithredit should show you the right version in beowulf main
18:02.16fsmithredthat's what I'm seeing here
18:02.31fsmithredjust to be sure, are you running amd64 or some other arch?
18:02.35freemangordonok, my bad
18:02.52freemangordonindeed there is -dbgsym in devuan repo
18:03.13freemangordonI wonder why I added debian repo then
18:03.15fsmithredsometimes there will be a newer debian version before we have devuanized the package
18:03.17freemangordonscratches head
18:03.34fsmithredand that can sometimes cause problems
18:03.35freemangordonno, I am sure I added that for -dbgsym packages
18:03.47freemangordonah, yes
18:03.58freemangordonfor those packages that are just mirrored ;)
18:04.04fsmithredmaybe you did. I have a vague memory that the dbgsym packages were missing at soe point
18:04.15fsmithredsome point
18:05.38freemangordonfsmithred: I guess because devuan has it's own dbus I guess, thus there is -dbgsym in devuan repo, however, for those packages that are taken as-is from debian, there are no -dbgsym packages as they are in a separate repo
18:06.01freemangordonanyways, thanks for the help
18:06.08fsmithredoh
18:06.15freemangordonsee :)
18:06.43freemangordondevuan does not mirror debian-debug, right?
18:07.13fsmithredyeah, 'aptitude search dbgsym' gives me a short list, and it looks like it's all packages we fork.
18:07.20freemangordon:nod:
18:07.31fsmithredso no, we are not merging the debug repos
18:07.35fsmithredoy
18:07.38fsmithredconfusing
18:08.21fsmithredfor the ones we don't fork, probably safer to download packages from packages.debian.org
18:09.04freemangordonthat's why one have to add debian-debug if she wants to have debug symbols for most of the packages. anyway, I know now what's going on, thanks again
18:09.12fsmithredor, if you're going to have any debian sources, you need to pin them to a low priority so they don't get installed unless you specify that repo
18:09.27freemangordonI'll just temporarily disable debian repo
18:09.33fsmithredthat works
18:09.59freemangordonanyways it is a VM with OS installed for development purposes, so even if it breaks, not a biggie
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21:02.21openbsdtai123I can run debian ascii + kde-standard (apt-get ) and teamviewer. teamviwer needs  kde obligatory.
21:02.31openbsdtai123sorry devuan ascii I meant
21:03.41openbsdtai123I installed ascii devauan with debootstrap, then grub, then kde-standard. people can have issue with openbox, but teamviwer is made to run teamvivewer_15.8.3_amd64.tar.xz and copy it to /opt, deal with perms and it works fine.
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23:47.05david_skBeen trying for several days to connect to the Devuan website, but keep getting a "secure connection failed".  Is it just me, or is the official site having difficulties?
23:50.24meep_____david_sk: your internet is probably being mitm attacke
23:50.24meep_____D
23:50.30meep_____Try connecting over tor
23:50.58meep_____To avoid censorship and blocks to the Internet, this website is also accessible using Tor at the address http://devuanzuwu3xoqwp.onion
23:52.14david_skOkay, I'll give it a try.  I've never noticed such problems with other websites, so this one is a new one to me.  Thanks!
23:59.23fsmithredare we considered evil in some country?

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