00:00.11 | fsmithred | you just trying to run vnc in ssh tunnel? |
00:04.35 | edoooooon | fsmithred: yeah. I just port forward port 5901 from my server to my localhost and connect with a vnc viewer to localhost:5901 using the command above. |
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00:06.38 | fsmithred | beowulf is your local machine or the remote? |
00:06.53 | edoooooon | local machine. |
00:07.09 | fsmithred | ok, that means I need to get out of my chair. brb |
00:09.55 | fsmithred | works here with slightly different command. I tested jessie to beowulf and beowulf to ascii |
00:10.39 | edoooooon | fsmithred: What command are you using? |
00:11.23 | fsmithred | I've got it set in a script to start in xterm. You can do without that part. |
00:11.26 | fsmithred | xterm -hold -e ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 $remote_host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' & |
00:11.37 | fsmithred | xterm -hold -e vncviewer -encodings "copyrect tight hextile" localhost & |
00:13.08 | fsmithred | you got a message about 'bind [127.0.0.1]:5901: Cannot assign requested address' |
00:13.30 | fsmithred | that seems weird. What's your localhost address? |
00:14.17 | edoooooon | those 3 lines are the error message that seem the most relevant. |
00:14.17 | edoooooon | bind [127.0.0.1]:5901: Cannot assign requested address |
00:14.17 | edoooooon | channel_setup_fwd_listener_tcpip: cannot listen to port: 5901 |
00:14.17 | edoooooon | Could not request local forwarding. |
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00:15.06 | edoooooon | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
00:15.06 | edoooooon | 127.0.1.1 mylocalcomputername |
00:15.11 | fsmithred | is right |
00:15.28 | fsmithred | what vnc are you using? |
00:15.46 | edoooooon | I dont really even get to the vnc, I run the ssh command first which fails. |
00:15.47 | fsmithred | and how are you starting it on the remote? |
00:17.10 | fsmithred | I'll try your command |
00:19.12 | edoooooon | On the remote machine, I start vnc via cron. I can do this whole process on Ascii and from other computers (window, putty). For some reason on this computer running beowulf, and beowulf on my test computer, I cant seem to do the ssh. And I feel like ssh config is so simple this should be a no brainer but I haven't figured it out yet, driving me crazy |
00:21.41 | fsmithred | I'm getting a Usage: message |
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00:21.55 | fsmithred | can't see what's wrong with my command |
00:23.08 | fsmithred | ok, I did 'user@remote' but 'user remote' does give me a login prompt. |
00:23.18 | fsmithred | Then just returns me to the local prompt. |
00:23.51 | edoooooon | correct, it does return you to your shell, but the port has been forwarded. |
00:24.24 | edoooooon | nothing is wrong with your command, they do the same thing really except you spawn vnc in the ssh session and mine is always running reguardless |
00:25.24 | edoooooon | your command and mine are the same really, in the first part ssh fails to do the port forwarding. |
00:28.58 | fsmithred | have you tried using a different port? Does it think 5901 is occupied? |
00:30.26 | edoooooon | ah yes, I did verify the local port was unused, and tried a random port "15900:127.0.0.1:5900" |
00:30.37 | edoooooon | channel_setup_fwd_listener_tcpip: cannot listen to port: 15900 |
00:31.27 | edoooooon | I also tried sudo/su |
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01:48.59 | systemdlete | the damage from u-no-watt never ceases, it seems: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=182055 |
01:49.59 | systemdlete | From that thread: hibernating, suspending etc. with upower is deprecated because it's more logical to use systemd+logind+polkit combination to achieve that capability for non-root users." |
01:50.15 | systemdlete | "More logical" --- ??? |
01:50.42 | systemdlete | Yeah, I guess it is more logical to drive the Benz than the Corolla. |
01:56.12 | systemdlete | The rule today seems to be this: If I need X, it has been deprecated in favor of X-systemd instead. |
01:56.38 | djph | systemdlete: 'systemd-Xd' |
01:56.52 | systemdlete | oops. You are correct! |
01:56.59 | systemdlete | (how foolish of me) |
01:57.08 | djph | s'all good :) |
01:57.59 | systemdlete | Meanwhile, the power manager in xfce don't work correctly anymore, which results in messy shutdowns when the power goes out here, like it did last night... 3x |
01:58.17 | specing | systemd-devuan |
01:58.19 | specing | when? |
01:58.42 | systemdlete | We had local power failures due to a bad storm here. |
01:59.04 | systemdlete | Seems a Pacific cyclone tore through here, knocking out power along the way. |
01:59.10 | djph | specing: you go sit in the corner and think about what you've said. |
01:59.11 | systemdlete | Rained like a dog. |
01:59.48 | specing | djph:lol |
01:59.54 | specing | systemd-devuand! |
02:00.25 | systemdlete | I hear there's a performance improvement coming up called systemd-everythingelsed |
02:01.03 | systemdlete | That post, btw, is from 2014. |
02:04.17 | specing | systemd-empired |
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10:40.22 | systemdlete | I would like to add a shutdown script for handling running instances of VM's (there's a command that sends an acpi signal and it works). I know how to do that part, and I understand how to create a kill script in /etc/init.d (and then add it to runlevels 0 and 6, right?). |
10:40.56 | systemdlete | What I want to know is, if there is a system update, do I need to worry that my local/custom script in /etc/init.d might be modified or obliterated somehow? |
10:41.21 | systemdlete | It doesn't seem likely to me, but I'd just like a tiny bit of re-assurance. Thanks everyone! |
10:43.44 | r3boot | You can check to see if your script (/etc/init.d/somename) is mentioned in one of the devuan packages. If it is, it makes sense to rename your init script. If it doesnt, yay, you're upgrade safe |
10:44.03 | systemdlete | thanks, good point r3boot! |
10:44.26 | systemdlete | I actually didn't think of that. |
10:45.19 | systemdlete | It's unlikely, since I'll be calling mine vbox-something. I think the only packages that put files there for vbox is vbox. |
10:45.25 | r3boot | Alternatively, if it is an existing script, and you cannot rename, you can always chattr +i the file to prevent it from being overwritten, but that will break your upgrades then |
10:45.52 | systemdlete | no, don't want to do that! |
10:46.00 | r3boot | Good :) |
10:46.09 | systemdlete | I'll just pick a VERY unique name, not likely to be duplicated |
10:46.33 | r3boot | vi /etc/init.d/`echo $RANDOM | sha1sum` ;P |
10:46.46 | systemdlete | I just checked, and there doesn't seem to be any packages even referring to vbox (aside from some isdn stuff, but I'll never use that I think) |
10:46.56 | systemdlete | ehhh. yeah. |
10:46.59 | r3boot | isdn, wow, people still use that?? |
10:47.30 | systemdlete | I've heard (horror) stories that some people livig in at least certain parts of Australia still have ADSL |
10:47.34 | guido_g | prefix it with something like 'local-', so you have a pattern to search for (i.e. for backups) |
10:47.53 | systemdlete | yeah, I back up /etc every night anyway |
10:48.23 | systemdlete | and I can run a cron job to make sure that MY scripts got included in the backup |
10:48.28 | systemdlete | if not, send me mail, etc etc |
10:48.55 | systemdlete | I am not THAT paranoid about this particular issue, though. I'd just like to achieve a more graceful shutdown when I lose AC here |
10:49.13 | systemdlete | Last night, I had 3 power outages. Drove me crazy. |
10:49.30 | onefang | I'm in Australia, and I have ADSL. Well, ADSL2. lol |
10:49.35 | systemdlete | ATM, I am trying to get a different issue addressed. |
10:49.42 | systemdlete | sorry to hear that onefang. |
10:49.45 | systemdlete | (truly) |
10:50.08 | onefang | I had fibre to the bedroom in my last home, but had to move. |
10:50.12 | systemdlete | We're "spoilt" here in the US; I pay $40/mo for about 80Gb down |
10:50.47 | systemdlete | the xfce4-power-manager seems to ignore my "critical power" setting. It is the default, 10%. |
10:51.22 | systemdlete | But I noticed that it was being ignored. On the 3rd go around (when my UPS started beeping up a storm), I watched as the power level dropped |
10:51.37 | systemdlete | It got to 8%, and still, the shutdown did not start. |
10:51.52 | systemdlete | I googled this issue and found a few hits. Seems others have this also. |
10:52.08 | systemdlete | Filed a (potential) bug against this; waiting for response. |
10:56.29 | systemdlete | actually, not a bug, per se. Just a post to the forums at xfce. Hate filing actual bugs if they aren't. |
10:56.50 | systemdlete | Could be something wrong at my end, or something easy to correct. |
11:00.51 | systemdlete | onefang: How fast is your ADSL2? Doesn't that vary with distance to the ISP or phone company office, just like DSL? |
11:01.39 | systemdlete | When I had DSL, I thought I was the King of the Internet, with (I think) 256Mbps. That was in Seattle, c. 1997 or so |
11:06.32 | r3boot | used to run on 8/1 ADSL. Slow like molasses, but it was very reliable. Most of the old POTS connections have been disabled in .nl tho, and nowadays I am on 100/100 fiber |
11:06.57 | r3boot | (for 45 euro/month btw, so that's pretty cheap :) |
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11:09.10 | systemdlete | well, that's a good bit more than $40 I pay. What are you getting for that? |
11:09.31 | r3boot | 100/100mbit, non-ratelimited |
11:09.51 | r3boot | plus fixed ip addresses, reverse-dns, ipv6 delegations, etc |
11:09.53 | systemdlete | so you are paying about 25% more and getting 25% more than I am. |
11:10.03 | r3boot | (and I get to talk to the admins over IRC, which is also nice :) |
11:10.18 | systemdlete | envies Europeans |
11:10.42 | guido_g | don't |
11:10.51 | systemdlete | I am noticing that Ascii has the 1.4.1 version of the power manager for xfce4. |
11:10.54 | guido_g | there are parts wher eyou can't get this kind of connection |
11:10.59 | systemdlete | But that was released about 5 years ago. |
11:11.14 | r3boot | yep.. .nl is pretty good wrt internet connectivity, esp compared to the rest of europe |
11:11.30 | guido_g | ack, .de sucks (still) |
11:11.33 | r3boot | There are even experiments with 10GE connections |
11:11.40 | systemdlete | guido_g: But that's true in every country. If you live in or near a major city, there is usually a cable provider, and they push Internet through their TV cable. |
11:12.10 | systemdlete | So I am running with ancientware. That's probably the most likely explanation. |
11:12.14 | guido_g | yeh, hamburg is way to small... |
11:12.37 | systemdlete | Hamburg? Seriously -- shipping mecca doesn't have HSI? |
11:12.52 | guido_g | welcome to germany |
11:13.04 | r3boot | Ugh .. I remember needing to hookup an office in berlin some years ago, and that was *so* frustrating. Only copper available at the location, while just across the street there was a DT fiber, but they would not attach the other side of the road :( |
11:13.07 | systemdlete | That surprises me. The Germans are usually far ahead in tech, aren't they? |
11:13.41 | guido_g | you're reading history books too much |
11:13.49 | r3boot | (and the copper itself was total crap, with quite a lot of synchronization issues) |
11:14.01 | r3boot | (some 500m from alexanderplatz btw) |
11:14.05 | systemdlete | I ran into something like that here. When I was living in Phoenix, a downtown(!) commercial building did not have cable service. So they had copper, and sucky service. |
11:14.35 | systemdlete | But, me, living about a mile or two away, in a crappy rental apartment, in the 'hood I mean, I had cable. |
11:14.39 | systemdlete | Go figure. |
11:15.25 | systemdlete | Anyway, there's been 3 releases since then. |
11:16.20 | systemdlete | beowulf has 1.6... |
11:16.51 | systemdlete | Looks like I just need to wait for beowulf. |
11:17.51 | systemdlete | It's not that pressing really. Linux cleans up hard shutdowns very nicely; still, it's not nice to do that, and I have had problems in a few cases where even after fsck cleaning up the file systems |
11:18.01 | systemdlete | there was still some breakage. |
11:18.42 | guido_g | hmm what changed here since yesterday: https://gist.github.com/guidog/b9d877d7119a310d51f27c9cabedf768 |
11:18.53 | guido_g | getting these errors now |
11:19.01 | systemdlete | Hopefully there won't be another incident like this for a while. And, no, I am not in a PG&E service area -- we have our own utility here. I don't think we need to worry about blackouts due to the fires in California. |
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11:20.14 | systemdlete | I ran into missing release files at bareos.org, but I think I got around it by rebuilding the key for it. |
11:20.30 | systemdlete | something like apt-key adv and such |
11:21.35 | systemdlete | anyone have even a flimsy estimate when beowulf might arrive? Months or weeks do you think? |
11:23.35 | systemdlete | Well, it's 3am here and I think I've beaten my head against a wall enough for one day. |
11:23.44 | systemdlete | Thanks all for the help and the convo. |
11:23.52 | systemdlete | night all! |
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16:19.06 | furrywolf | also, I'm perm-banned from ##woodworking, which is proof we need another woodworking channel. :) |
16:19.13 | furrywolf | grr, wong window. lol |
16:20.30 | r3boot | nah, just do proper ban evasion, it's doable :) |
16:21.34 | furrywolf | lol. I could, and given as it's been like five years the founder is very unlikely to notice (or remember that I existed), but that won't fix the real problem. |
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16:27.56 | djph | that you're a bad dog and got yourself banned? |
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16:29.12 | furrywolf | no, that the founder is a biggoted prick, who banned me for not being a person acceptable to his christian world view. |
16:29.56 | r3boot | .. not as bad as ISOC tho .... http://www.circleid.com/posts/20191127_why_i_voted_to_sell_org/ |
16:29.57 | guido_g | the woodworking channel, crosses only! ;) |
16:31.08 | guido_g | lots of assh*s around |
16:33.29 | furrywolf | r3boot: hrmm, that looks to me like "it'll be ok! they've promised not to be evil!" |
16:34.13 | r3boot | correct. It's a major sellout. They want money, because their steady income based on domain registrations is not enough, and it's 'okay', since the equity firm promises to do good(tm) |
16:34.33 | r3boot | Basically they're selling .org from a non-profit to a investment corporation |
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17:17.03 | systemdlete | Most people complain about the chirping noises coming from their UPS. But I have a different problem now: The only time my UPS chirps is when I turn it on. |
17:17.20 | systemdlete | It's an APC Back-650. |
17:18.24 | systemdlete | and the xfce4-power-manager is giving the wrong info -- telling me it's on battery when it shouldn't be, or on AC when it shouldn't be, and often there is a delay before it updates itself. |
17:18.43 | systemdlete | Is the problem that my UPS is now totally fried? |
17:19.04 | systemdlete | I've had it several years, but I don't remember how long. |
17:19.48 | systemdlete | And there is no chirp indicating when it is going to battery power and back. |
17:20.24 | systemdlete | And, damnit, it's a federal holiday in the US, so there is probably no place to get a new one if this one is done for. |
17:21.31 | systemdlete | I'm thinking that maybe the UPS's brain is scattered, so the monitor applet is not getting correct/timely info? |
17:21.36 | furrywolf | yeah, I wanted to go to the hardware store today, but they're closed... |
17:22.32 | systemdlete | I guess Target and Walmart are possibilities, but I hate buying anything in those stores. And Fry's Electronics is almost definitely out of the question. |
17:22.54 | systemdlete | Best Buy is nearby me, but I'm certain they are closed also. |
17:24.26 | systemdlete | hmmm. Looks like Best Buy might be open today after all, starting at 5PM. Getting the jump on black Friday I suppose. |
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17:42.57 | systemdlete | Wonder if it pays to spend $13 on a new battery for the UPS or just chuck the whole thing and get a new UPS. I'd think the electronics are prob still OK even if the battery is nearing the end |
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18:02.54 | snake0 | UPS usually just need new batteries, when they start beeping after 3-5 years. |
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18:10.01 | golinux | Good grief Please keep this channel related to Devuan. |
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23:47.24 | tuxd3v | hello, |
23:47.58 | tuxd3v | does any one knows how to convert back a sdcard that shows as scsi... ? |
23:48.25 | tuxd3v | its a block device but I messed too much with it, and now I can't get it back has a block device.. |