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10:56.32TwistedFatehowdy
10:58.33TwistedFatelm-sensors cannot detect any sensors on my new Ryzen 5 3600 & MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard.. Can anybody help?
10:58.51TwistedFatealso debdog lemme know if you are here :D my mic still doesn't work :(
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11:11.08debdogTwistedFate: oops, sorry, was OOO yesterday. have you tried what fsmithred suggested?
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11:18.30TwistedFatedebdog: ye, still doesn't' work
11:21.30specingIf you want everything to work smoothly and be supported, buy old hardware
11:21.46specingor new hardware that is designed to run Linux
11:21.59specingyou did neither of these and now you have compatibility issues
11:22.27fsmithredTwistedFate, which kernel are you running?
11:22.30r3bootyou forgot option 3; Write drivers yourself
11:23.32TwistedFatefsmithred: Linux devuan 5.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.2.7-1 (2019-08-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux
11:24.11fsmithredI guess that's about as high as you can go now
11:24.14fsmithreddamn
11:24.28fsmithredbut specing is right
11:25.29fsmithredit'll probably work in a few months
11:25.45r3bootTwistedFate: you can speed up the process by submitting a bugreport to the kernel. See also https://github.com/lm-sensors/lm-sensors/blob/master/README
11:25.55TwistedFatespecing: Realtek ALC 892 integrated soundcard is more than a few years old
11:26.39fsmithredDid you try changing the order of the cards in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
11:27.31TwistedFatefsmithred: i only have 3 files there, amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf  dkms.conf                       intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
11:27.45fsmithredright, you'd have to make alsa.conf
11:28.01specingTwistedFate: I didn't say how old :)
11:28.14specingTwistedFate: I buy 2008 laptops myself
11:28.27fsmithredyou could try it instead of asound.conf
11:29.10TwistedFatespecing: it's 6 years old *at least*
11:29.28TwistedFatei don't want to buy ancient hardware to run gnu+linux on it
11:30.07specingthen buy new hardware designed for GNU+Linux
11:30.08TwistedFateespecially now when the hardware support is better than ever, these things should not happen at all
11:30.31TwistedFatewhat is designed for gnu+linux?
11:30.35specingThey don't, if you buy hardware designed or certified for GNU+Linux
11:30.57specingTwistedFate: e.g. RaptorCS Talos workstations, System76 workstations/laptops, ...
11:31.04r3bootMost hardware is designed to be Windows certified. Linux certified hardware is harder to find
11:31.24specingTalos wont run windows at all
11:31.36TwistedFatei don't agree at all
11:31.43TwistedFatebut let's not stray from the topic
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11:33.50r3bootspecing: hmm, now you made me wonder if NT4 would run on the Talos :) (not that I have one...)
11:34.22fsmithredthe fix I'm thinking of probably won't work in your case. Both your cards use snd_hda_intel, don't they?
11:35.51fsmithredneed food - back in a few min.
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12:52.59Kk2^_^
12:59.43TwistedFatedebdog: any ideas? :3
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19:25.48debdogTwistedFate: TBH, not really, atm. How did you determine the mic isn't working?
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19:37.55TwistedFatedebdog: i tried voice chatting with a friend over steam and i did arecord
19:38.00TwistedFateboth were silent
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19:44.48fred``upgraded stretch ages ago to ascii and ever since the fail2ban doesnt seem to works anymore
19:45.28fred``i searched via google and also 'apt-get purge'd fail2ban
19:45.40fred``but its actually not banning
19:46.02fred``searching in the backlog of this chan showed some ppl asking the same question, but there were no answers
19:47.01fred``2019-08-14 21:38:14,695 fail2ban.actions        [27182]: NOTICE  [sshd] Ban 201.6.x.x
19:47.14fred``2019-08-14 21:38:14,695 fail2ban.actions        [27182]: NOTICE  [sshd] Ban 201.6.x.x
19:47.19fred``eh
19:47.45fred``"iptables -L | grep 201.6.x.x" --> show nothing
19:50.16fred``the hosts dont get banned by iptables
19:54.38fred``the iptable f2b chain is available though
20:04.53fred``hm - strange
20:05.02fred``no one of the ips is banned
20:05.07fred``*now one
20:07.17fred``the first detected ip isnt banned, but the ones following are
20:07.39fred``nvm - i'll keep a eye on it
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21:19.37TwistedFatei need a sanity check :D
21:19.53TwistedFatewhy does devuan restore the previous OS state when i reboot?
21:19.58TwistedFatewith all previos programs open
21:20.07TwistedFatei'm using kde plasma desktop
21:21.37golinuxProbably because you are telling it to do that.
21:21.55golinuxDrill down into the session settings
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21:35.08fsmithredkde does that
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21:49.01TwistedFategolinux: partially correct
21:49.06TwistedFatefsmithred: correct :)
21:49.10TwistedFatei just disabled that option
21:52.47fsmithreddid it put all the apps on the first desktop?
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22:07.18TwistedFatefsmithred: yes
22:07.52TwistedFatei only have 1 desktop tho
22:10.52fsmithredlol
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22:34.32onefangfred``: I have that problem to.  Fail2ban fails to ban.  It worked fine before I installed ASCII.
22:38.21drizzthum, did fail2ban move to the new nft syntaxe/interface ?
22:38.50drizztdebain maintainers for iptables replaced iptable by nft without renaming the package
22:39.29drizztif you still use iptables (iptables-legacy), then maybe failtoban fails to work ?
22:39.47onefangShorewall still works fine, so I've been manually stuffing the worst IPs into that.
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22:41.35onefangBoth fail2ban and shorewall depend on iptables.
22:42.04onefangThere's no iptables-legacy, there is iptables-nftables-compat.
22:43.04onefangAnd there is a nftables package as well.
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23:57.42aslani assume that devuan is still at ascii version. how mature is ascii? when will beowulf is available?
23:58.36gnarfaceyou assume correctly
23:58.39gnarfaceascii is very mature
23:58.46gnarfacebeowulf timeline is unknown
23:59.12gnarface(people are already using beowulf successfully but there are known issues)

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