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| 01:40.11 | stevelitt | Where can I obtain Devuan Ceres (unstable)? |
| 01:40.57 | debdog | install AÅCII, alter sources.list, upgrade |
| 01:41.03 | debdog | *ASCII |
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| 02:14.43 | saptech | whewwww, it was a challenge but finally got it working |
| 02:21.23 | saptech | fsmithred, I guess I could have tried this link, https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHead_on_a_Stick%3Aobmenu-generator&package=obmenu-generator |
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| 03:45.58 | stevelitt | Thanks debdog. Where are there step by step instructiions on how to do that? |
| 03:49.09 | gnarface | stevelitt: it is the same process as upgrading to sid with debian |
| 03:49.26 | gnarface | except you use the name ceres instead |
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| 04:32.35 | furrywolf | yet another remotely exploitable systemd bug... obviously bundling network handling into the init system was a great idea. |
| 04:36.33 | xrogaan | always is! |
| 04:43.33 | furrywolf | bbl, wolfy bedtime |
| 04:49.52 | golinux | stevelitt: You still here? |
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| 06:16.00 | stevelitt | golinux, yeah |
| 06:21.16 | stevelitt | gnarface, I never upgraded to sid. On Debian,I was strictly a stable kinda guy. |
| 06:21.54 | gnarface | it's something you should avoid unless you have a good reason |
| 06:22.01 | gnarface | (note to be clear i am not golinux) |
| 06:23.48 | gnarface | i'm sure someone has written this down in a devuan-specific fashion somewhere |
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| 06:23.49 | gnarface | maybe on the forum |
| 06:23.58 | gnarface | i assume that's what golinux was going to direct you to |
| 06:24.28 | gnarface | i don't have such a link off the top of my head though, that's why i was just suggesting vaguely that Debian's wiki entry on the matter should be easy to find |
| 06:25.18 | gnarface | i do recommend you make a backup first |
| 06:25.27 | stevelitt | Thanks gnarface . Someone just gave simple and explicit instructions on the mailing list, I performed them, and now it kernel panics. |
| 06:26.13 | stevelitt | I should have made a backup, forgot. That's OK, as I mentioned several times, the only daemon I had runitized was sshd. |
| 06:26.42 | golinux | stevelitt: One thing to note. Unless something has changed, there are newer versions of the "kit stuff in ascii than in beowulf or ceres |
| 06:27.05 | golinux | fsmithred wrote a nice post about upgrading on the fporum. I'll go find it |
| 06:29.22 | golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12408#p12408 |
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| 06:29.41 | golinux | stevelitt: ^^^ |
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| 06:32.30 | golinux | That might be irrelevant if you're not using a full desktop. My main river is still jessie. I'm not very adventurous |
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| 17:21.05 | Wonka | has anyone noticed that weston is currently uninstallable in ceres? depends on libcolord2 >= 1.4.3, but only older versions (with +devuan version) available. |
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| 18:01.12 | xrogaan | "kit stuff"? |
| 18:02.48 | debdog | like consolekit and such, I suppose |
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| 18:07.14 | fsmithred | she was being polite |
| 18:07.36 | fsmithred | when I say it, the words rhyme |
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| 18:12.01 | stevelitt | My computer's making meganoise. I think I might have a dying hard disk. Now is the time to back up... |
| 18:12.33 | fsmithred | smartctl -a /dev/sdX |
| 18:12.40 | Xenguy | rsync is your friend |
| 18:12.52 | buZz | stevelitt: nice actually |
| 18:13.01 | buZz | just made me realize thats a feature SSDs are missing |
| 18:13.09 | buZz | no audible prewarning of death ;) |
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| 18:14.21 | Xenguy | fsmithred: What does that do? |
| 18:14.38 | fsmithred | gives you the smart data on the disk |
| 18:14.38 | Xenguy | (Part of smartmontools here) |
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| 18:15.29 | Xenguy | huh |
| 18:15.30 | buZz | Xenguy: correct |
| 18:15.46 | buZz | SMART is a system to monitor harddrives internally |
| 18:16.06 | buZz | the harddrives themselves can test them, but also log earlier faults |
| 18:16.24 | buZz | like relocated sector count , etc |
| 18:16.30 | Xenguy | Thanks folks, interesting |
| 18:16.52 | buZz | or on my server's HDD 'G Sensor errors' :P (if you move the disk while spinning it'll complain) |
| 18:18.46 | fsmithred | cool |
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| 20:51.43 | stevelitt | buZz, what's "nice"? rsync, the fact that I'm going to back up, or somethign else? |
| 20:52.38 | stevelitt | By the way, my / is mounted on an ssd. |
| 20:53.09 | stevelitt | I fell asleep before I could back up, but I just started backing up 5 minutes ago. Should be done in an hour. |
| 20:53.30 | stevelitt | Whatever disk is getting backed up now sounds perfectly healthy. |
| 20:53.59 | stevelitt | golinux, what's beowulf? |
| 20:54.20 | stevelitt | And why couldn't I find it to download? |
| 20:57.36 | nacelle | meganoise though? |
| 20:57.37 | debdog | beowulf is the name of the next stable release. see table on https://devuan.org/ |
| 20:57.54 | nacelle | meganoise is usually a fan going bad, no? |
| 20:57.57 | nacelle | or something crawling in :( |
| 20:58.07 | KatolaZ | stevelitt: beowulf is the current "testing" |
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| 21:00.04 | golinux | stevelitt: beowulf will be our 3rd stable release. |
| 21:12.09 | stevelitt | I never saw any download links for beowulf. |
| 21:13.12 | stevelitt | Hah, my backup finished. Let my computer explode, I don't care. |
| 21:15.57 | golinux | stevelitt: There aren't any beowulf isos yet so follow the same procedure as to get seres. Change the sources.list relasename from ascii to beowulf. |
| 21:16.00 | stevelitt | nacelle, could be a fan, although much of my air movement is via a top mounted 140mm slow-spin that I doubt would make much noise. |
| 21:16.30 | golinux | oops ceres, of course. |
| 21:17.00 | golinux | has fat fingers. |
| 21:17.11 | stevelitt | KatolaZ, golinux for both beowulf and ceres, why aren't there minimal install ISOs such that one doesn't need to start life with a major upgrade? |
| 21:17.29 | nacelle | stevelitt: fans go bad |
| 21:17.38 | nacelle | things fall into fans |
| 21:18.28 | nacelle | thinks hard drive noise is pretty obvious, except 2.5" disks, because its nearly impossible to hear those from a few feet away anyways |
| 21:18.48 | nacelle | (but not all of them, especially the early ide 2.5" things in laptops of old) |
| 21:19.49 | golinux | At this point beowulf's isn't ready for wide and ceres never is. And iso would become outdated in days. |
| 21:20.11 | golinux | isn't ready for wide USE |
| 21:20.59 | golinux | Hopefully we'll have a beta iso released by spring. |
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| 21:42.20 | kingsley | The latest systemd vulnerability seems to have elicited a favorable report of switching to devuan on Slashdot. https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/10/27/196227/new-systemd-vulnerability-discovered#comments |
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| 22:25.07 | KatolaZ | stevelitt: there is no install for unstable |
| 22:25.18 | KatolaZ | never has been |
| 22:25.22 | KatolaZ | and makes little sense |
| 22:25.31 | KatolaZ | since unstable is updated on a daily basis |
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| 23:52.32 | stevelitt | Alright, let me try ceres again... |
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