| 00:04.53 | gnarface | i thought there was something about GPT supporting larger partitions or more partitions than MSDOS too |
| 00:04.57 | gnarface | something like that |
| 00:05.05 | fsmithred | 128 |
| 00:05.14 | fsmithred | won't run out for awhile |
| 00:05.50 | fsmithred | if you do a bios boot with gpt partition table, you need to create a special partition |
| 00:06.22 | fsmithred | I'm wondering if that's the case here, but information is sporadic |
| 00:07.32 | fsmithred | 128 partitions and total greater than 2T |
| 00:11.28 | specing | still lame, my bios does LVM |
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| 00:20.46 | gnarface | hmm, yes i think that GPT might require efi unless you know some trick |
| 00:21.07 | specing | it should not |
| 00:21.24 | specing | GPT is backwards compatible with mbr/old style |
| 00:22.09 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 00:22.12 | gnarface | maybe it depends on the bios |
| 00:22.26 | specing | in fact those partition tables don't matter at all, you could have grub that just reads the whole disk as LVM after initial 1MB offset for grub itself |
| 00:22.47 | specing | or 1MBgrub + LUKS |
| 00:23.13 | specing | or you could for coreboot(like I did) and just have LUKS over the whole damn disk |
| 00:23.33 | specing | partitions are so 1995 |
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| 00:39.25 | fsmithred | gpt with bios requires a partition >1M with ef02 flag |
| 00:39.31 | fsmithred | unformatted |
| 00:40.18 | fsmithred | I think gparted calls it bios_grub |
| 00:40.40 | fsmithred | and fdisk calls it BIOS boot |
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| 01:09.20 | NewGnuGuy | What fsmithred said |
| 01:09.58 | gnarface | i just remember having trouble with it, i'm not clear on what exactly |
| 01:10.07 | gnarface | thought it also had something to do with the 14TB partition |
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| 01:11.37 | fsmithred | grub doesn't give you the clearest explanation when it fails for that |
| 01:12.53 | fsmithred | the new live installer does tell you. I added that as soon as I figured out what was going on. |
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| 01:18.39 | Wasp | gnarface: sorry, was a bit lost in looking for a present ;) |
| 01:20.31 | Wasp | gnarface: yes i have running (an)other BSD partitionn(s). And yes, at least they gent metioned wrong as "unknown linux" but no clue if this is the cause of my issue. What would be the about the BSD stuff -- actually I don't need them in grub -- at least it's not my first priority. First prio is to get it to boot at all |
| 01:21.22 | fsmithred | what kind of partition table does the disk have? |
| 01:21.36 | fsmithred | msdos, gpt or other? |
| 01:21.53 | fsmithred | and are you booting uefi or bios? |
| 01:22.51 | fsmithred | Wasp, ^^^ |
| 01:26.06 | Wasp | fsmithred: these are all intersting questions ;) Since I've greated the partitions with deepin linux i'am not sure but I assume GPT for booting: so far I just bootted from the USB flash drive with UEFI |
| 01:26.25 | fsmithred | fdisk -l will tell you |
| 01:27.08 | fsmithred | ok, uefi will be gpt |
| 01:27.23 | fsmithred | grub should know what to do with the efi partition |
| 01:27.27 | Wasp | couldnt manage to boot the OS though. I got into some kind of grub console but it didn't even offer an exit command nor help |
| 01:27.40 | Wasp | okay but it doesn't |
| 01:27.40 | fsmithred | grub prompt? |
| 01:27.45 | fsmithred | grub> |
| 01:27.48 | Wasp | grub rescue prompt |
| 01:27.50 | Wasp | no rescue |
| 01:28.21 | fsmithred | you boot other os with uefi ok? |
| 01:28.30 | fsmithred | and was that using grub? |
| 01:28.55 | Wasp | wait, i already asked the question some hours ago, let me resend |
| 01:29.04 | fsmithred | ok |
| 01:29.21 | Wasp | Hi, I try to install devuan on sdc1. Before I already had deepin linux in the same place. I went through the GUI installation process, where I also formated sdc1 (just to get poissble coflicts out of the way) but in the end I run into the problem that the installer couldn't install grub |
| 01:29.49 | fsmithred | which partition is the efi partition? It would be fat32 |
| 01:29.56 | fsmithred | and small |
| 01:29.58 | Wasp | so I tried update-grub (or grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/.cfg) and grub-probe says: "error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdj1. Check your device map". I Don't have such a file -- in fact I suspected grub to create it. Moreover I wonder what grub is doing with my sdj1 |
| 01:30.19 | fsmithred | yeah, I remember reading that |
| 01:30.22 | Wasp | for real i set sdc1 to ext4 and set it to be my root partition |
| 01:30.31 | fsmithred | we were all wondering how many drives you have |
| 01:30.41 | fsmithred | which partition is the efi partition? |
| 01:30.52 | Wasp | however the devuan rescue GUI presents me the partition as EFI partition |
| 01:31.01 | Wasp | sdc1 = / |
| 01:31.02 | fsmithred | sdc1? |
| 01:31.15 | Wasp | yeah, that's why I could a little confused as well |
| 01:31.23 | fsmithred | are you using one of the installer isos, or live iso? |
| 01:32.05 | Wasp | cd-1 image |
| 01:32.11 | Wasp | dd'ed to usb |
| 01:32.14 | fsmithred | ok |
| 01:32.18 | Wasp | booted as UEFI |
| 01:32.27 | Wasp | version of devuan is ascii 2.0 beta by the way |
| 01:32.34 | fsmithred | yeah, ok |
| 01:32.48 | fsmithred | if you go into Advanced options in the boot menu |
| 01:33.13 | fsmithred | you can then select recovery or rescue, and then reinstall boot loader |
| 01:33.17 | Wasp | was just wondering why there is (or at least I didn't chose) a live cd image. have to reboot all the time to look something up |
| 01:33.38 | Wasp | fsmithred: yeah did that already but it has troubles |
| 01:33.49 | Wasp | grub-probe fails |
| 01:33.52 | fsmithred | can you past the output of fdisk -l? |
| 01:34.16 | Wasp | probably the initialr eason why the installer failed ... but the installer gives no feedback about the "why" |
| 01:34.24 | fsmithred | it sounds like you formatted your efi partition as ext4 |
| 01:34.48 | Wasp | obviously i cannot past but it was about... let me resend my comment from above |
| 01:34.59 | fsmithred | I read them already |
| 01:35.54 | Wasp | so I tried update-grub (or grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/.cfg) and grub-probe says: "error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdj1. Check your device map". I Don't have such a file -- in fact I suspected grub to create it. Moreover I wonder what grub is doing with my sdj1 |
| 01:35.54 | fsmithred | if you're booting uefi, then you need a fat32 partition around 100-200MB is big enough |
| 01:36.17 | fsmithred | does /dev/sdj exist? |
| 01:36.36 | fsmithred | you have 10 disks? |
| 01:36.48 | Wasp | dont know but just by counting the disks, it COULD be possible |
| 01:36.58 | Wasp | actually i have 9 but i guess + usb |
| 01:37.07 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 01:37.29 | fsmithred | and they might change order when you boot from usb (usb is probably /dev/sda) |
| 01:38.11 | Wasp | maybe but it doesnt matter because so far I just booted from USB and it cannot even instlal grub |
| 01:38.18 | Wasp | not talking about booting yet |
| 01:38.55 | fsmithred | well, figure out if you have a proper efi partition, and if not, you need to make one |
| 01:38.58 | Wasp | ..not talking about booting from disk yet* |
| 01:39.30 | fsmithred | did you choose manual partitioning? |
| 01:40.15 | Wasp | yes |
| 01:40.20 | fsmithred | ok |
| 01:40.39 | Wasp | bad as i said, it was already partitioned |
| 01:40.51 | fsmithred | if you want to understand uefi bootloaders, see http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html |
| 01:40.56 | Wasp | just erease data fron sdc1 to get sure |
| 01:41.12 | fsmithred | you can just reformat it |
| 01:41.36 | fsmithred | fat32, esp and boot flags (in gparted) or ef00 in gdisk |
| 01:42.05 | fsmithred | or let the install partition that disk |
| 01:42.15 | fsmithred | installer |
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| 01:43.24 | Wasp | no way I have a /home on the disk |
| 01:44.15 | fsmithred | ok, then manual |
| 01:45.19 | fsmithred | so you need that one partition for the bootloader, and then at least one linux partition for the OS |
| 01:45.35 | fsmithred | then grub should install correctly |
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| 03:33.05 | Wasp | ah while i have to reinstall anyway |
| 03:33.59 | Wasp | in the GUI install, what is meant as "Devuan desktop environment"? (I can check it without xfce, that doesnt make sense to me) |
| 03:34.58 | Wasp | also what is "productivity console" or analogous |
| 03:39.55 | NewGnuGuy | Devuan desktop environment installs Xfce if none of the specific desktop options are selected |
| 03:43.12 | NewGnuGuy | productivity console installs these packages: http://paste.debian.net/1023509/ |
| 03:43.21 | NewGnuGuy | Wasp: ^^^ |
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| 04:45.43 | Wasp | thanks for the infos |
| 04:46.15 | Wasp | going to install all packages manually now |
| 04:46.49 | Wasp | fsmithred: creating an efi partitoin without putting the base system onto it helped |
| 04:47.33 | Wasp | where is KDM in apt-get? .. was reading that kdm shall got replaced by ssdm but there is also not ssdm |
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| 06:21.47 | EHeM | fsmithred: In theory you could have a disk with (1<<32)-1 slices with a GPT, though that would be a bit extreme; I could well believe Linux only reserves enough device minor numbers for 128 slices per disk and that many seems rather generous. |
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| 08:30.09 | amarsh04 | @Wasp I switched to lxdm before switching to Devuan to avoid systemd |
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| 11:10.06 | fsmithred | Wasp, sddm, not ssdm. You get a choice of sddm or lightdm when you install kde. |
| 11:10.58 | fsmithred | which isn't called kde anymore - plasma-desktop or task-plasma-desktop (for everything else) |
| 11:12.36 | fsmithred | no, it's called task-kde-desktop. |
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| 11:35.43 | nailyk | Hi all. Still having the polkit/Consolekit issue on my desktop computer. I tried some *consolekit-backend-* install but almost all result on task-xfce-desktop being removed. |
| 11:36.00 | nailyk | Also: https://shaarli.nailyk.fr/?searchterm=&searchtags=devuan+ is not avaiable anymore... |
| 11:36.29 | nailyk | This breaks a lot of functions, like tunar mounting, bluetooth, and shutdown. What is the proper solving way please ? |
| 12:01.25 | fsmithred | nailyk, is this the information you want? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8217#p8217 |
| 12:04.33 | nailyk | looks like! Thanks! |
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| 12:08.16 | nailyk | Same problem it seems. While attempting to reinstall broken libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit it attempt to remove almost every packages in task-desktop (attempt to remove 318 packages) |
| 12:08.33 | nailyk | Switching to elogind ones result on the same problem |
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| 12:09.23 | fsmithred | in xfce? |
| 12:09.29 | nailyk | yes |
| 12:10.42 | nailyk | https://paste.debian.net/1023534/ |
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| 12:19.03 | fsmithred | any idea how you got there? |
| 12:19.30 | fsmithred | you might be able to fix it by using apt-get instead of aptitude |
| 12:19.43 | fsmithred | and avoid autoremove |
| 12:20.05 | fsmithred | and install whatever satisfies it so that it no longer wants to remove all those packages |
| 12:20.13 | fsmithred | did you try reinstalling consolekit? |
| 12:26.08 | nailyk | yes |
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| 12:26.38 | fsmithred | same result? |
| 12:26.39 | nailyk | also tried with apt-get. Problem is it attempt to remove each time. Not only 'need to be removed'. |
| 12:28.38 | nailyk | On this computer I never manually installed something to workaround the polkit problem. Attempted to let him 'autosolve'. |
| 12:32.24 | fsmithred | what happens if you try to remove elogind? |
| 12:32.29 | fsmithred | same thing? |
| 12:33.58 | fsmithred | and is libpam-elogind installed? |
| 12:35.23 | nailyk | libpam-elogind reported as borken |
| 12:35.40 | nailyk | like elogind |
| 12:36.11 | fsmithred | what events led to this situation? |
| 12:36.41 | nailyk | my lazziness about waiting for auto solve. |
| 12:37.00 | nailyk | Tries to install libpolkit-backend-elogind . |
| 12:37.06 | nailyk | *tried |
| 12:37.48 | fsmithred | you stopped it in the middle? |
| 12:37.55 | nailyk | don't think so |
| 12:39.16 | fsmithred | aptitude why libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit |
| 12:39.38 | fsmithred | will tell you what package automatically installed it |
| 12:39.55 | nailyk | not installed \n Candidate version 0.105-18+devuan2.9 has priority optionnel \n No dependencies require to install |
| 12:40.38 | fsmithred | then try it with libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 |
| 12:40.45 | nailyk | Am on this right now: https://paste.debian.net/1023535/ |
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| 12:44.37 | fsmithred | they're all marked as automatically installed. What installed them? |
| 12:45.59 | fsmithred | what happens if you try to reinstall task-xfce-desktop? |
| 12:46.30 | nailyk | I mark all as auto to prevent dependencies conflicts |
| 12:47.02 | nailyk | It want to remove elogind & libelogind |
| 12:47.48 | nailyk | https://paste.debian.net/1023537/ |
| 12:48.42 | fsmithred | that looks like it will fix it |
| 12:52.31 | nailyk | aptitude safe-upgrade looks better now. Gonna try to reboot. |
| 12:52.41 | fsmithred | ok |
| 12:56.08 | beagleburt | G'day from New Zealand everyone! Devuan jessie//MATE D.E.//Network Settings has only 3 tabs:General // DNS //Hosts but the 'AllHelp' shows 4 tabs: Connections//General//DNS//Hosts???There is no notification that I am online? |
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| 13:10.09 | nailyk | Am no able to mount usb devices & reboot. Bluetooth still not working but could be something else. Android devices still not showing in tunar too. |
| 13:10.14 | nailyk | Many thanks for the help! |
| 13:11.10 | gnu_srs1 | nailyk: you should try with aptitude install libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 (version 2.9) |
| 13:12.02 | beagleburt | ^ ...will try a different Desktop Environment...'b'ye |
| 13:13.38 | nailyk | libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 is already installed at the requested version (0.105-18+devuan2.9) |
| 13:14.20 | gnu_srs1 | I saw that you did: apt-get install --reinstall task-xfce-desktop |
| 13:14.29 | gnu_srs1 | And all is fine now? |
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| 13:16.01 | gnu_srs1 | Didi you mean: Am no able to -> I am now able to |
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| 13:18.50 | nailyk | yes :p |
| 13:18.53 | nailyk | my bad english ;) |
| 13:19.07 | nailyk | Am now able again to mount usb drives & reboot from session or login screen. |
| 13:19.18 | fsmithred | oh, good |
| 13:19.20 | nailyk | Bluettoth still not working (but not able to remember if it was working before) |
| 13:19.30 | nailyk | Android thunar mount not working anymore. |
| 13:19.39 | nailyk | s/Android/mtp/ |
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| 13:43.57 | msiism | fsmithred: i've been thinking about the kernel metapckage thing again. so, installing the metapackage will also give you newer kernel versions on a stable release and not just updates to the one you installed initially, right? |
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| 13:50.39 | fsmithred | msiism, yes, in the case of the meltdown patch, I did not get the -5 update automatically without the metapackage. Did get it with the metapackage. |
| 13:52.18 | fsmithred | also, unrelated to that, I got a long delay getting to the dekstop on my old dell laptop. Might be the same issue you have. |
| 13:52.52 | msiism | fsmithred: about the kernel: i see. i was just thinking, if you're using custom-built kernel modules, it might not be the best idea to use the meta package, since you'd have to rebuild your modules on every kerel update. |
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| 13:53.26 | msiism | fsmithred: well, X is actually starting up pretty fast on my system, but it froze up befoe i allowed it to run as root. |
| 13:53.56 | fsmithred | yeah, good point |
| 13:54.27 | fsmithred | oh, I ran into this with a full desktop-live install |
| 13:54.55 | fsmithred | some text goes by at boot (normal) then the screen goes blank for awhile (a minute?) |
| 13:55.00 | fsmithred | then I get slim login |
| 13:55.11 | msiism | strange |
| 13:55.17 | fsmithred | then it goes blank for another minute or two before the desktop comes up |
| 13:55.39 | fsmithred | sometimes I can and somtimes I can't get to console with ctrl-alt-Fn |
| 13:56.17 | msiism | fsmithred: i think the reason i wasn't using the kernel meta package was that i ran the graphics driver coming directly from nvidia for some time and didn't want to rebuild that on every update. |
| 13:56.28 | fsmithred | some of the delay may be due to installing it onto a usb stick |
| 13:56.43 | fsmithred | understood |
| 13:56.44 | msiism | fsmithred: ok, i'll also try to investigate problems with X on ascii a bit further |
| 13:56.47 | fsmithred | been there, done that |
| 13:57.16 | fsmithred | on the newer toshiba laptop, it works fine |
| 13:57.56 | msiism | and are you trying to run x as a normal user? |
| 13:59.35 | fsmithred | no, just trying to run X |
| 13:59.35 | fsmithred | no custom stuff, just installed from desktop-live |
| 14:00.06 | msiism | but isn't x run as a normal user on ascii? |
| 14:00.14 | fsmithred | nope |
| 14:00.34 | fsmithred | only way I've been able to run X as user is with startx |
| 14:00.55 | fsmithred | actually, I haven't checked that since libpam-elogind appeared |
| 14:01.31 | msiism | i thought the new thing on debian 9 was that the xserver now runs without needing root privileges...maybe i got that wrong. |
| 14:02.16 | fsmithred | no, you didn't |
| 14:02.20 | fsmithred | hang on, I'm checking |
| 14:04.02 | fsmithred | slim and xorg are running as root, xfce4-session is running as user |
| 14:05.28 | fsmithred | in jessie, I have lightdm running as root, xinitrc as user |
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| 14:07.48 | msiism | ok, the non-root X seems to be a systemd thing. |
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| 14:11.16 | MinceR | not really |
| 14:11.24 | MinceR | even OpenBSD's been doing it for ages :> |
| 14:11.45 | msiism | MinceR: ok, good to know. but debian is making it a systemd thing. |
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| 14:12.58 | MinceR | also, it could be done with polkit and consolekit, iirc |
| 14:13.08 | MinceR | debian's making everything a systemd thing |
| 14:13.20 | msiism | that's why you'd have to install xserver-xorg-legacy, which is a "setuid root Xorg server wrapper" be able run it in a non-systemd setup. |
| 14:13.48 | msiism | MinceR: polkit, consolekit, i really don't understand these things. |
| 14:13.59 | MinceR | they're nasty |
| 14:14.18 | msiism | i've tried to write a polkit rule once and gave up. |
| 14:14.45 | MinceR | :) |
| 14:14.47 | msiism | they have to be written in javascript, iirc (might be wrong about that) |
| 14:26.47 | fsmithred | libpam-elogind seems to be the key https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8013#p8013 |
| 14:29.06 | msiism | fsmithred: well, i initially tried that to stop my x server from freezing after the upgrade to ascii, but it did not work for me. |
| 14:31.50 | fsmithred | I hate it when things are not reproducible |
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| 14:41.01 | Wasp | amarsh04: what you mean? Are there still packages in apt which pull in systemd? |
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| 15:18.28 | dejdo | good day again. On Ceres, kdenlive does not starts because there is no dbus-launch which is because there is a broken dependency. Is this a bugreport, or being Ceres, i should wait a few hours? |
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| 15:40.03 | fsmithred | dejdo, 'apt-cache search dbus-launch' shows me dbus-x11 |
| 15:40.11 | fsmithred | is that installed? |
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| 15:56.25 | AlexLikeRock | to conect to #devuan :-D |
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| 16:09.34 | dejdo | fsmithred: no, broken dependency |
| 16:10.35 | dejdo | dbus-x11 : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (= 1.10.8-1+devuan1) but 1.10.22-1+devuan1 is to be installed |
| 16:15.20 | fsmithred | 1.12.6-2 is in beowulf but not ceres |
| 16:15.50 | fsmithred | you might have better luck with mixed testing/unstable (literally, beowulf/ceres) |
| 16:16.37 | fsmithred | 1.10.22 is in ascii |
| 16:17.11 | fsmithred | since it's a devuanized package, it won't be updated in a few hours |
| 16:17.31 | fsmithred | probably |
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| 16:25.26 | dejdo | fsmithred: thanks. I managed to start kdenlive with the cunning trick of reading manuals, I just want to know if this worth a bugreport or not. |
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| 16:37.47 | fsmithred | dejdo, what did you have to do to start it? |
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| 16:38.59 | aitor | hi |
| 16:39.18 | aitor | i finished the work on the popupmenu |
| 16:39.41 | fsmithred | aitor, do you have a package somewhere? |
| 16:40.13 | aitor | fsmithred: i'll upload them shortly, it has been optimized a lot |
| 16:40.25 | dejdo | fsmithred: dbus-daemon --session --print-address (prints out ADDRESS) (in another shell) export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS="ADDRESS" ; kdenlive |
| 16:40.31 | aitor | i'll also push the sources to gitlab |
| 16:41.31 | fsmithred | dejdo, if that's what you have to do to start it, then maybe a bug report is in order |
| 16:41.47 | aitor | i'll also share it in the forum of bunsenlabs, some people are interested on it |
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| 16:43.44 | fsmithred | dejdo, do you have libsystemd0 installed? |
| 16:45.26 | dejdo | fsmithred: yes, 238-4 |
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| 16:46.05 | fsmithred | if you're interested in experimenting, you could install libdbus-1-3 from beowulf and see if that fixes the problem |
| 16:46.29 | fsmithred | the one in ceres has had its dependency on lsd0 removed. The beowulf version still requires it. |
| 16:48.01 | dejdo | this is my primary home desktop now, I rather not, sry. |
| 16:48.12 | fsmithred | np, I understand completely |
| 16:48.58 | fsmithred | bug report on ceres with your fix would be useful for anyone else who runs into the problem |
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| 16:51.02 | dejdo | oc. on the other hand, you devuan folks helped me alot, let me grab some food to help the decisionmaking. |
| 16:51.13 | fsmithred | lol, ok |
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| 17:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | noob question: is a error like "Depends: libdbus-1-3 (= 1.10.8-1+devuan1) but 1.10.22-1+devuan1 is to be installed" usually suggesting that there's a wrong operator "=" instead of ">=" in that dependency? |
| 17:05.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW should not 1.10.22-1+devuan1 provide backward compatibility to 1.10.8-1+devuan1 ? |
| 17:08.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I know often lib devels are ignorant and don't follow the shared-lib rules regarding ABI compatibility, as explained in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html |
| 17:10.35 | fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, the problem in this case is that the version in ceres is an older version, devuanized to remove a dep on libsystemd0, and the version in beowulf is newer and not devuanized. |
| 17:11.19 | fsmithred | kdenlive is the same version in beowulf/buster and ceres/sid |
| 17:11.30 | fsmithred | and I guess it's expecting the newer lib |
| 17:11.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | then the version name is pretty misleading since both are *+devuan1 |
| 17:12.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just looking at the error message, no further clue about the issue |
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| 17:13.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui the error say "I want libdbus-1-3 1.10.8-1+devuan1, but there's only 1.10.22-1+devuan1" |
| 17:14.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I may be mistaken completely on it |
| 17:14.32 | fsmithred | I'm not sure. 1.10.22-1+devuan1 is in ascii |
| 17:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I'd expect a dependency of "libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.10.8-1+devuan1)" to succeed |
| 17:15.25 | fsmithred | maybe the newer version is a leftover from ascii before upgrade to ceres, and it's blocking the older version from ceres |
| 17:15.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui some apt / deb tools know >= deps |
| 17:15.45 | fsmithred | and yeah, deps that require "at least" version X make sense |
| 17:16.03 | fsmithred | that's the way I do it |
| 17:18.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm wondering if there is $magic in apt/dpkg to not consider 1.10.8-1+devuan1 < 1.66.8-1+FOOBAR666, based on special meaning of "+" in version string as separator |
| 17:20.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | as I said, total noob here, no clue about that stuff |
| 17:21.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | just would make sense for those ubiquitous "*+MYFLAVOR7" appenices to be found everywhere |
| 17:22.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | +devuan, +maemo, +whatever |
| 17:24.21 | fsmithred | yes, there is magic involved in the versions, but I am not well-versed in debian numerology. |
| 17:24.32 | fsmithred | I forget what the + does |
| 17:25.07 | fsmithred | I know ~something will be replaced by the same version number without the ~something. (like ~bpoXXX |
| 17:26.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | a topic for the packaging experts, I guess |
| 17:36.07 | aitor | hi again |
| 17:36.32 | aitor | a change is needed in the packaging of udisks: |
| 17:38.04 | aitor | the header "#include <libudev.h>" in "rc/helpers/job-drive-detach.c" should be replaced by this other one: |
| 17:38.24 | aitor | #include <sys/stat.h> |
| 17:39.04 | aitor | bbl |
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| 17:40.49 | dejdo | fsmithred: installing libdbus-1-3 from beowulf fixes the issue |
| 17:41.04 | dejdo | now, is there a devuan-bugreport script? |
| 17:41.57 | dejdo | yes |
| 17:45.26 | dejdo | ok, reportbug-ng is suboptimal. |
| 17:52.06 | dejdo | Report will be sent to Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org> |
| 17:52.11 | dejdo | ? hem? |
| 18:05.22 | golinux | email works best |
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| 18:28.49 | dejdo | golinux: sent it in via e-mail yes |
| 18:30.03 | golinux | I already saw it. Thanks |
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| 18:40.59 | dejdo | golinux: we live to serve |
| 18:42.43 | golinux | If only . . . |
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| 19:07.57 | fsmithred | sent bug report to devuan or to debian? |
| 19:09.02 | golinux | Ha! Didn't even notice that . . . |
| 19:09.50 | golinux | dejdo: Did you use this template or debian's? https://bugs.devuan.org/server-request.html |
| 19:09.52 | fsmithred | dejdo, bugs.devuan.org o |
| 19:10.01 | golinux | Beat you! |
| 19:10.45 | golinux | I saw a bug reported. Maybe it was a different one . . . |
| 19:13.22 | fsmithred | this is more appropriate: https://bugs.devuan.org/Reporting.html |
| 19:14.32 | fsmithred | what bug report did you see? |
| 19:16.05 | fsmithred | dbus-x11. good. Thank you. |
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| 19:28.16 | dejdo | golinux: the mail vas created by reportbug, i just cutandpasted |
| 19:28.58 | dejdo | and i got a reply from the devuan bug tracking system |
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| 22:12.12 | bozonius | ascii looks good (with the exception of my headset mic issues, but those appear to be package-specific since alsa works for certain) |
| 22:12.31 | bozonius | is there any specific testing that needs doing? |
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| 22:13.09 | bozonius | a page listing bug fixes in ascii that need testing? |
| 22:13.18 | bozonius | I might do some regression testing |
| 22:23.37 | bozonius | btw, I just installed chromium on jessie. The jessie and ascii versions are both 66, but the jessie version is earlier than the one for ascii. The mic works correctly on jessie, and does so consistently except for firefox. I haven't tried other programs on jessie. |
| 22:23.56 | bozonius | I still haven't gotten ekiga usb mic to work in ekiga on ascii |
| 22:24.19 | bozonius | bbl |
| 22:24.23 | chillfan | install testing is the main thing |
| 22:25.05 | chillfan | net install, different desktops etc |
| 22:25.19 | chillfan | alsa is sometimes tricky with multiple audio devices |
| 22:26.53 | chillfan | try out the permutations, and see if problems found are already mentioned on the DNG mailing list and bugs.devuan.org |
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