IRC log for #devuan on 20170816

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00:38.41aitorfsmithred,are you there?
00:38.55fsmithredhi aitor
00:38.58aitorhi
00:39.08fsmithreddid you look at that iso?
00:39.28aitoryes
00:39.55fsmithredfind anything interesting?
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00:40.23aitori didn't test your original version because there were many kernel modules missing
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00:40.36aitorso, i rebuilt the dists and pool folders
00:41.01aitorand the install/vmlinuz and initrd.gz
00:41.05aitorthe rest is yours
00:41.11fsmithredcool
00:41.17aitorand then tried it
00:41.45aitorall the process went right, except the reboot
00:41.45fsmithredany better?
00:41.54fsmithredwhat happened?
00:42.02aitori got in the tty4 something like this:
00:43.02aitor<PROTECTED>
00:43.21aitorthe same line several times, encreasing the pid
00:44.03fsmithreddid you run the installer from the boot menu or from the live session?
00:44.23aitori changed the install/preseed.cfg file, removing the line:
00:44.23aitord-i finish-install/reboot_in_progress note
00:44.37aitorfrom the boot menu
00:45.08fsmithredozi said he was having problems with running the installer from boot menu
00:45.45aitordid you add the live-installer
00:45.59fsmithredyeah
00:46.14fsmithreddid it with ozi's code that was added to my live-sdk blend
00:46.19aitorok, i'll try it
00:47.14aitorpreseed scripts in-target are not compatible with the live-installer
00:47.40aitorwe would need a udeb package for that
00:48.10aitorfsmithred: i just burn the new image and need to reboot
00:48.16aitorbe back in a few minutes
00:48.18fsmithredok
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00:59.31aitorhi again
01:01.03aitorit failed once again, but i found the origin of the issue
01:01.26aitormy fault: main-menu.udeb is missing in the pool directory
01:02.31aitori'll add it and it will work, be sure
01:02.44fsmithredok
01:02.48aitorall the installation process goes right
01:02.53fsmithredgood
01:03.01aitorand the grub installs succesfully
01:03.19fsmithredthat might be the one with the grub debs that I added
01:03.23fsmithredmanually
01:03.34aitorfsmithred: i also changed the content of isolinux, because it didn't work on my computer
01:03.49aitorit was focused to uefi, i suppose
01:03.50fsmithredwrong res?
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01:04.23fsmithredit should boot with isolinux or grub, depending on if you have bios or uefi
01:05.12aitori have bios, but some *.c32 file failed
01:06.15aitordid you build the iso using the simple-distro-kit
01:06.22fsmithredyes
01:06.31aitorgood, interresting
01:06.37fsmithredthen I added grub debs to pool and repacked the iso
01:07.28fsmithredyou want to see the blend file?
01:07.46aitoryes
01:08.12fsmithredok, I'll send it. blend and config for that build. Maybe you can make sense of it. (the d-i part)
01:08.25aitorok
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01:10.28aitori'll rebuild the iso adding main-menu.udeb and upload it during the night, but it will take its time because my bandwidth here is too low
01:10.44fsmithredok, thanks
01:11.37aitorsee you tomorrow
01:12.22aitorfind another owl :)
01:12.53aitortoday is said you were from oceania
01:14.52fsmithredsent
01:15.00fsmithredyou said I'm from oceania.
01:15.05fsmithreddid anyone else say it?
01:15.10aitoryes, there was a line in the preseed.cfg file setting the lang to AU, australia
01:15.17fsmithredoh!
01:15.22fsmithredOzi would have done that.
01:15.37aitorhe is from there, i know
01:15.49fsmithredyeah, that's where the d-i code came from
01:16.01fsmithredI just sent it to you.
01:16.23aitorok, thanks
01:16.38fsmithredthank you for any help.
01:16.59aitoram i lossing my detective skills :(
01:17.25aitorbye
01:17.43fsmithredbye
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04:02.46drawkula++ "DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK multiseat as well"
04:03.12drawkulasu(do) is enough!
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05:57.14telst4rhi ya. Is there some systemd-independent update notifier (gnome-packagekit) replacement?
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10:42.06tdm4hey I went from jessie 1.0.0 to ascii.. but it seems it takes forever and an age to start up/shut down now..
10:42.42tdm4is this well known? it seems to hang on my LUKS crypt disk when shutting down now
10:51.04DusXMTI think it has to do with udev; I accidentally upgraded udev from jessie to jessie-backports on my laptop. and it'd do the same, just wait forever
10:51.21DusXMT(encrypted root as well)
10:53.35DusXMT(I installed something from backports that depended on udev, and so it decided to upgrade it as well - thankfully, in my case, a downgrade was easy)
10:56.54tdm4hmm
10:57.10tdm4don't think I can downgrade then
10:58.13DusXMTIt's definitely a bug worth reporting
10:58.33DusXMT(I thought it was because it was incompatible with jessie, but if it happens with ascii as well...)
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11:36.51fsmithredtdm4, you could try eudev. Instructions are here, including an example of how to downgrade: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1543
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13:04.10[[david]]hi there... is there a package mirror somewhere that's accessible via rsync?
13:04.40[[david]]i tried some listed on the downloads page, but they seem to only hold the installation/live media...
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13:23.45Venkerhi people
13:25.39detha[[david]]: not as far as I know
13:26.55Venkertdm4: I replaced /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions with an older version and it worked. I do it every time there is an update in repos
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13:39.07[[david]]that's great
13:42.11[[david]]what ways are there to make a local mirror then? wget is like unusable... its reject/accept exclude/include logic is not well documented...
13:43.07[[david]]apt-mirror gives nonsense error message at every corner... like invalid config file when the file exists and stuff...
13:43.27[[david]]its documentation is also quite thin...
13:44.11tdm4Venker: thanks for that I'll try that
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14:22.53gnarface[[david]]: check out reprepro for making local mirrors, but what is actually the problem?  most people who think they need a local mirror only really need a apt proxy.  check out apt-cacher-ng for that
14:23.49gnarface[[david]]: i'm confused a bit by why you're using rsync for this.  what is it you're actually doing?
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14:38.38Venkertdm4: I'll tell you the proper version you need, let me check...
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14:40.59Venkertdm4: cryptsetup Version: 2:1.7.0-2. I used the official Debian git repo (alioth, I think)
14:43.55VenkerI use ascii daily, there aren't updates for some weeks. Is this OK? (packagers are on holidays? :-D )
14:48.21[[david]]gnarface: as i insinuated, i tried wget with reject/accept exclude/include... of course i don't want/need a complete mirror, i. e. there's no point in downloading all architectures... and maybe i don't even need a complete amd64 mirror... still, all the tools i've come across don't let me reasonably specify what i want to get...
14:48.21fsmithredVenker, ascii is mostly stretch, which is stable.
14:48.44fsmithredand yeah, some devuan devs have been elsewhere lately
14:48.57Venkerfsmithred: so, is ceres testing right now?
14:49.04fsmithredno
14:49.10fsmithredceres is sid and will always be sid
14:49.15fsmithred(only better)
14:49.15[[david]]with rsync i hoped to get at least a complete file list, so that i could do the filtering locally, then get only what i want/need by another rsync job or then even with wget...
14:49.32fsmithredbuster will be tracked by beowulf, but there's no beowulf repo yet.
14:49.45[[david]]i'm aware that downloading the package repo partially has some implications, but a proxy is no option here
14:49.50fsmithredthat'll happen after some infrastructure changes get worked out
14:51.33Venkerso, when (approximately) the next testing release would be released?
14:53.59gnarface[[david]]: reprepro is just a empty package repo setup.  you can add whatever packages you want to it.
14:55.32fsmithredVenker, I don't know, but I'm getting impatient, so I've started making Refracta isos based on ascii.
14:56.14fsmithredso far, just one without X and another for testing/playing that has openrc and eudev
14:56.21fsmithredthat one has openbox
14:58.16Venkereudev and openrc run good on Devuan? I didn't try...
14:58.43fsmithredseems to be fine. I haven't played with the openrc one at all. Just made it a couple days ago.
14:59.08metaxysomeone is on dnscrypt?
14:59.22fsmithredI've been using eudev a little bit on one install. I can't tell the difference.
15:00.58fsmithredif you want to install openrc right now, it's a little tricky. This works: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4443#p4443
15:01.37[[david]]gnarface: i will read up on that
15:01.37fsmithredif you just want to play with it, here's a live iso: http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/ascii_oblx_eudv_oprc-20170813_2222.iso
15:01.42[[david]]thanks
15:04.09Venkerthanks  ;-)
15:04.49Venkeris this 32 or 64 bit?
15:04.57fsmithrediso is 64
15:05.13Venkergood, thanks  ;-)
15:05.55fsmithredif you need 32, it's not difficult to make.
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15:08.40VenkerI still have some 32bits machines here
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15:40.30Venkerfsmithred: what 'bpo' stands for..?
15:42.55Venkerah ok, backports, sorry  ^_^U
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15:43.54fsmithred:)
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15:57.58[[david]]bye
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16:14.07VenkerI'll see you another day, bye  ;-)
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20:51.09Venkerhi there
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21:29.06fugitivehi
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21:49.29golinuxfugitive: How is the translation coming
21:49.46fugitive><
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21:50.20fugitivehey man. I am experimenting with arm on h3 arm devices :)
21:51.29fugitivei did maybe 1/5 of the file, it's bloody huge
21:52.10Venkerwhich translation is that?
21:53.38fugitivewell, my native lang, serbian
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21:57.08golinuxVenker: Translation for the forum control phrases
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22:06.44Venkeryou mean, for fluxbb?
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22:12.55fugitivehttp://termbin.com/0ts9 yh, i know output sux :)
22:13.05fugitive@Venker yes
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22:15.55fugitivebrb
22:23.26golinuxVenker: Yes, for dev1galaxy fluxbb
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22:25.56Venkergood  :-)
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23:26.01aitorhi
23:26.35g4570nhi
23:27.41NewGnuGuyhi
23:28.17aitori tested the same d-i with different images: one of them using my own method, and the other one using the devuan-sdk kit
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23:29.11aitorin the first case, it works
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23:30.04aitorin the second case, grub-install works, but the following step fails, that is: configuring users and passwords
23:31.14aitorbut i'm still not 100% sure on that point
23:33.52aitori tried to read the syslog file generated by debian-installer, running a live image of gnuinos, but there is a lot of stuff in /var/log
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23:36.41aitorin spite of this, the grub ran succesfully, but i couldn't login neither as a current user nor as root
23:39.25aitoryesterday i said that the main-menu.udeb package was missing in the /pool folder, but it's not neccesary (i never included it in gnuinos)
23:41.00aitorthere were messages sent by main-menu in the tty4 console, and this fact confused me
23:44.54aitortomorrow i'll share the images, and i'll try to fix this issue
23:44.59aitorbye :)
23:45.30aitor01:45 :)
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