| 00:00.08 | aitor | surely, he is in Tenerife |
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| 01:13.17 | *** topic/#devuan is beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u ** https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 06:03.15 | NewGnuGuy | The certificate for packages.devuan.org expires on Wednesday. If it's not set to auto-renew, someone should get on that pronto. |
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| 08:19.51 | DusXMT | I wonder, what's the current state of Devuan? I've been using it on two machines for a long time now, with no complaints, but I wonder if there's something in the cooking |
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| 08:36.21 | KatolaZ | DusXMT: good thigs happen to those who can wait ;) |
| 08:37.32 | DusXMT | KatolaZ: :) |
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| 08:53.04 | aitor | KatolaZ: you are a philosopher |
| 08:53.05 | aitor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrsq1werkfs |
| 08:53.20 | KatolaZ | aitor: no, I am not :) |
| 08:53.46 | aitor | yes, you are :) |
| 08:57.21 | DusXMT | only wants to know if his current favorite distro is alive and healthy :) |
| 08:57.47 | KatolaZ | DusXMT: it is alive, and healthy |
| 08:57.56 | DusXMT | :) |
| 08:59.10 | aitor | i'll be back later, coffee :) |
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| 09:52.57 | aitor | i found this link for streaming in gtkmm: |
| 09:52.58 | aitor | https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/stable/guitar-tuner.cpp.html.es |
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| 10:18.41 | aitor | i pushed more commits to simple-netaid-gtk |
| 10:19.11 | aitor | i'm trying to pass as an argument the singleton class to a secondary thread |
| 10:19.42 | aitor | see lines 80- 81 in: |
| 10:19.43 | aitor | https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk/blob/master/src/window_main.cpp |
| 10:20.12 | aitor | the application runs succesfully, but running it, i get: |
| 10:20.30 | aitor | Unknown request in queue while dequeuing |
| 10:20.42 | aitor | Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called |
| 10:21.22 | aitor | appearently, accessing GUI from secondary thread is not supported |
| 10:22.57 | aitor | maybe, i'll have to post a event from the thread to the main GUI thread, and process it |
| 10:23.54 | aitor | the get_status slot changes the status icon of the network connection, and the label |
| 10:25.11 | aitor | see you later |
| 10:27.28 | DusXMT | Do we have a !later bot? |
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| 10:27.53 | DusXMT | aitor: You can only manipulate GTK from a single thread |
| 10:28.09 | DusXMT | The best way to achieve asynchrony is via idle functions |
| 10:28.37 | aitor | thanks, i'll try it later |
| 10:29.29 | aitor | Oops! I forgot one detail: |
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| 10:30.06 | aitor | Glib::Dispatcher |
| 10:30.07 | DusXMT | An idle function works in a way that you put a request (from an external thread) to execute a bit of code as soon as the GTK main event loop has nothing to do (it's idle) |
| 10:30.17 | aitor | i'll try later, need to go :) |
| 10:31.11 | aitor | Thanks, DusSMT, i'm newbie |
| 10:31.41 | aitor | DusXMT :) |
| 10:34.15 | DusXMT | remembers the headaches of learning threading with GTK+ for the first time :3 |
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| 10:46.49 | DusXMT | Huh, GTK+ removed idle functions? That's odd... They'll have to decide on a way to support multithreaded programming one day, that's already their second "try" and it's apparently no longer an option... |
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| 10:47.57 | DusXMT | (their first try was a locking mechanism, that turned out to not be portable across all supported platforms, most notably it didn't work on Windows) |
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| 11:16.31 | enyc | DusXMT: hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm how much is gtk on windows used?? |
| 11:16.41 | enyc | DusXMT: i recall gimp-for-windows, possibly evince too ?? |
| 11:23.41 | KatolaZ | enyc: inkscape |
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| 11:24.02 | KatolaZ | I guess |
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| 12:15.08 | parazyd | hmm, anyone know why thunderbird isn't rebranded to icedove in ascii anymore? |
| 12:15.23 | OmegaPhil | Its officially Thunderbird now |
| 12:15.35 | OmegaPhil | Sounds like Mozilla finally relented on the branding |
| 12:15.43 | OmegaPhil | I just got a dialog about it this morning |
| 12:16.04 | OmegaPhil | It mentioned there was more detail in /usr/share/doc/thunderbird/README.Debian.gz and apparently on the wiki |
| 12:18.52 | enyc | yay |
| 12:19.40 | Leander | just like what happened with firefox a few weeks ago |
| 12:21.37 | parazyd | oh awesome |
| 12:25.48 | fsmithred | parazyd, if I put release="ascii" in my live-sdk/config, will it build ascii, or do I have to do something else? |
| 12:26.03 | parazyd | it will when ascii is fixed |
| 12:26.10 | parazyd | i think there's still a rsyslog issue |
| 12:26.28 | parazyd | for now you have to dist-upgrade and make sure you remove rsyslog before doing so |
| 12:26.32 | fsmithred | you talking about rsyslog being removed at the end of the build? |
| 12:26.37 | parazyd | yes |
| 12:27.04 | fsmithred | I think I fixed or found a way around that, but at the moment, I don't remember how |
| 12:28.00 | fsmithred | wait, wasn't rsyslog listed in purge_packages? |
| 12:28.48 | parazyd | yes and i used busybox-syslogd to replace it |
| 12:29.19 | parazyd | purge_packages executes at the end of the initial bootstrap |
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| 13:26.12 | fsmithred | parazyd, got a minute? I'm in live-sdk running functions manually, and I'm a little lost. |
| 13:26.22 | fsmithred | ran devprocsys mount bootstrap |
| 13:26.46 | fsmithred | then chrooted in and installed busybox-syslogd and purged rsyslog |
| 13:27.11 | fsmithred | now I want to rebuild the iso. Do I need to devprocsys umount? |
| 13:27.22 | parazyd | yes, always |
| 13:27.30 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 13:28.06 | parazyd | see how when a `chroot-script -d` is called, it binds /dev, /proc, /sys, and unmounts them when done |
| 13:28.19 | fsmithred | ok |
| 13:28.36 | fsmithred | I just lost it - thought I was exiting chroot, but I exited zsh |
| 13:29.20 | parazyd | :D |
| 13:29.44 | parazyd | yeah that's one of the reasons why i changed the prompt when you are in an interactive sdk session |
| 13:32.12 | fsmithred | linux-image depends on rsyslog? |
| 13:32.55 | parazyd | dunno |
| 13:33.29 | fsmithred | I chrooted in to install a kernel, and it won't do it |
| 13:36.33 | fsmithred | apt --fix-broken install' |
| 13:36.44 | fsmithred | seems to have fixed it - just installed kernel |
| 14:22.23 | fsmithred | parazyd, I just built an ascii iso with live-sdk |
| 14:22.51 | fsmithred | had to edit the debootstrap command to include busybox-syslogd and exclude rsyslog |
| 14:23.29 | parazyd | good |
| 14:23.39 | parazyd | so it's only rsyslog? |
| 14:23.54 | fsmithred | also added 'apt --fix-broken install' to bootstrap_config_thirdstage |
| 14:24.00 | fsmithred | but I'm not sure that last is needed |
| 14:24.31 | fsmithred | oh, I included busybox, too, just in case |
| 14:25.53 | fsmithred | how do I increase the amount of history that gets saved in zsh? Or will .bashrc do that since I opened the terminal in bash? |
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| 14:41.16 | parazyd | HISTSIZE=50000 |
| 14:41.18 | parazyd | SAVEHIST=50000 |
| 14:41.46 | parazyd | if you are in a zsh shell, this works |
| 14:41.56 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 14:43.30 | fsmithred | I'm rebuilding - none of the base_packages got installed because of one in the list that does not exist: alsa-base |
| 14:48.55 | parazyd | it's a dummy package in ascii still |
| 14:49.00 | parazyd | but yeah, remove it |
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| 14:54.07 | parazyd | btw moving blend_map to config breaks it |
| 14:54.12 | parazyd | so i reverted |
| 14:55.03 | fsmithred | I put variables in sdk for blend_map and it seems to be working |
| 14:55.10 | fsmithred | set the variables in config |
| 14:55.16 | parazyd | yes, but i tried moving it to the config file |
| 14:55.20 | parazyd | the whole map |
| 14:55.23 | parazyd | but didn't work out |
| 14:55.27 | fsmithred | ok, I won't do that |
| 14:55.49 | fsmithred | I also added a couple lines to sdk so that I can pass the name of the config file to it |
| 14:56.02 | fsmithred | and then I can have several configs for different builds |
| 14:56.25 | fsmithred | and multiple blend files and rootfs-overlays |
| 14:56.48 | parazyd | cool |
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| 14:57.28 | fsmithred | it's still pretty messy, but eventually, I want to make a new repo with a sample-live-sdk that has a few examples in it |
| 14:57.48 | fsmithred | with heavily commented config files, which I love so dearly |
| 14:58.35 | parazyd | haha |
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| 15:18.11 | parazyd | fsmithred: also, yad is damn awesome. i've been missing out :D |
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| 15:57.06 | fsmithred | parazyd, you noticed that yad is in ascii? |
| 15:57.22 | parazyd | that's why i started using it :p |
| 15:57.38 | fsmithred | hey, have you ever used refracta2usb? |
| 15:58.11 | fsmithred | I won't be hurt if you say no |
| 15:58.25 | parazyd | nope |
| 15:58.34 | fsmithred | you should try it, just for fun |
| 15:58.43 | fsmithred | it's like a swiss army knife |
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| 15:58.55 | fsmithred | but please don't look at the code - it's fugly. |
| 15:58.59 | parazyd | haha |
| 15:59.04 | parazyd | i'll take a look sometime |
| 15:59.44 | fsmithred | I added alsa-base to the debootstrap excludes, and it looks like everything got installed |
| 16:00.05 | fsmithred | for some reason it was still trying to install alsa-base after I removed it from the package list |
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| 18:46.48 | telmich | good evening |
| 18:47.03 | telmich | So our first (and only) problem so far with Devuan is that upstream opennebula packages will not work on Devuan |
| 18:47.11 | telmich | Because they reference systemd |
| 18:47.28 | telmich | What's the best way of fixing that? |
| 18:50.18 | enyc | telmich: write patches for opennebula, -or- make wrappers for systemd links/calls that it uses ??? |
| 18:54.17 | KatolaZ | telmich: you can also fork the opennebula packages |
| 18:54.32 | KatolaZ | and repackage for devuan |
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| 19:07.15 | zdzichu | I think patches for opennebula would be best |
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| 19:07.37 | zdzichu | that would be helpful for greater ecosystem, including other systemd-free distributions |
| 19:07.59 | malinas | I have patches being worked on, basically there's a small fix to a postinst script to remove one systemd specific command in one or two packages |
| 19:11.19 | malinas | hopefully I'll have some time to deal with it this week |
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| 19:47.13 | NewGnuGuy | The certificate for packages.devuan.org expires on Wednesday. If it's not set to auto-renew, someone should get on that pronto. |
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| 20:41.49 | Centurion_Dan | nextime^^^ |
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| 21:56.31 | aitor | Centurion_Dan: Nextime is missing, he is in Tenerife |
| 22:00.07 | Centurion_Dan | aitor: he's lurking... anyway I emailed him too. |
| 22:00.58 | aitor | :) |
| 22:03.23 | Xenguy | There is no escape nextime ; resistance is futile |
| 22:03.27 | Xenguy | =) |
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| 22:09.45 | aitor | kelsoo: i'll have a look to microcode: |
| 22:09.46 | aitor | https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/kelsoo/m/microde/ |
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| 22:12.17 | aitor | rrq has joined :) |
| 22:12.44 | aitor | time to bed :( |
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