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| 14:09.52 | OmegaPhil | I haven't been able to find a page that allows you to inspect the complete devuan package list, per release, from the perspective of devuan itself (rather than just my machine) |
| 14:10.01 | OmegaPhil | Like this for Debian: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 14:10.28 | OmegaPhil | Have I missed the Devuan version of this? I can see a list of packages that are specially made for Devuan etc |
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| 15:05.57 | golinux | OmegaPhil: Did you check out the lists linked from the index page of the Devuan site? |
| 15:06.51 | OmegaPhil | Yes, thats just for Devuan unique/changed/blacklisted packages |
| 15:07.14 | golinux | Here a list of packages we have forked from Debian |
| 15:07.15 | golinux | Here the packages specifically built for Devuan |
| 15:07.15 | golinux | And here the infamous blacklisted packages |
| 15:07.32 | OmegaPhil | Not, 'here are all packages in Devuan for the release' |
| 15:07.46 | golinux | No It's more than that! |
| 15:07.47 | OmegaPhil | With search capability etc |
| 15:08.37 | OmegaPhil | It only has the particular subsets its interesed in |
| 15:08.48 | OmegaPhil | 'devuan unique', 'forked', etc |
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| 15:09.52 | OmegaPhil | So I can't say, see the state of package a in ceres |
| 15:10.13 | OmegaPhil | If that package comes from Debian and isn't involved with forking, etc |
| 15:10.29 | OmegaPhil | Obviously its very close to Debian so I'm just using their stuff atm |
| 15:10.30 | golinux | OK try this. The unoffical-live from Refracta has a package list. It's basically vanilla devuan + the addition of the refracta tools |
| 15:10.34 | golinux | https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ |
| 15:10.45 | golinux | I'm looking at it right now |
| 15:11.47 | OmegaPhil | THats just an iso |
| 15:11.58 | OmegaPhil | Don't worry about it, I'll just use Debian's infrastructure |
| 15:12.02 | golinux | If you open it there is a pkg list |
| 15:12.27 | OmegaPhil | And it'll be out of date VS Devuan, and effectively just one release |
| 15:12.37 | golinux | Name |
| 15:12.37 | golinux | acl |
| 15:12.37 | golinux | acpi |
| 15:12.37 | golinux | acpi-support-base |
| 15:12.37 | golinux | acpid |
| 15:12.38 | golinux | adduser |
| 15:12.40 | golinux | adwaita-icon-theme |
| 15:12.42 | golinux | alsa-base |
| 15:12.44 | golinux | alsa-utils |
| 15:12.46 | golinux | anacron |
| 15:12.48 | golinux | apt |
| 15:12.50 | golinux | apt-listchanges |
| 15:12.52 | golinux | apt-utils |
| 15:12.54 | golinux | aptitude |
| 15:12.56 | golinux | aptitude-common |
| 15:12.58 | golinux | aptitude-doc-en |
| 15:12.59 | OmegaPhil | I can already list and search through all packages for my current release with apt-cache etc |
| 15:13.02 | golinux | etc. |
| 15:13.04 | golinux | True that's just jessie. |
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| 15:14.10 | golinux | OK. Over and out. Sorry for the noise |
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| 19:59.45 | Corin | Will doing a distupgrade from Jessie to ASCII break my system at this point? |
| 20:00.35 | OmegaPhil | I did that about a month ago with the laptop, worked |
| 20:00.56 | OmegaPhil | (That was a fresh Devuan 1 install) |
| 20:01.46 | Corin | Also, does ASCII have KDE5 packaged at this point? |
| 20:02.39 | OmegaPhil | has no idea, uses XFCE4 |
| 20:02.55 | Corin | Oh, ok. |
| 20:04.03 | Corin | So, changing all instances of 'jessie' in /etc/apt/sources.list to 'ascii' should suffice for an upgrade, right? |
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| 20:19.09 | GeneralStupid | i use "stable" |
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| 20:25.25 | Digit | hi. anyone know if remastersys works with devuan? and/or which old version i might need to get? ... or what other easy remastery tools/methods exist for devuan? |
| 20:26.14 | n4dir | not sure, but the refracta-tools might be of help. assuming i understand "remastersys" correct ... |
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| 20:26.41 | jaromil | did not try remastersys (old-ish) but refracta-tools do what it did and are better tested |
| 20:26.51 | Digit | ah. thnx. |
| 20:27.01 | jaromil | we'll release a "devuan sdk" consolidating all those tasks soon-ish |
| 20:27.43 | jaromil | 10x for pointing that out n4dir |
| 20:27.45 | jaromil | bbl |
| 20:27.51 | n4dir | :-) |
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| 20:31.50 | Digit | nice. thnx all. |
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| 23:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~nosystemd |
| 23:23.39 | infobot | i heard nosystemd is https://devuan.org http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ |
| 23:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~systemd |
| 23:23.47 | infobot | systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, H. Hoyer, D. Mack, T. Gundersen, D. Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel. See ~nosystemd" |
| 23:24.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I'm not happy with "replaced" |
| 23:25.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | but "obsoleted" also doesn't sound to the point |
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