| 00:01.24 | fsmithred | how do I get to the page that lists all issues? |
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| 00:03.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | OK! https://git.devuan.org//assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico works, https://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico doesn't |
| 00:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | for me, in Konqueror |
| 00:04.02 | fsmithred | swoosh and fox |
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| 00:10.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe some browsers combine https://git.devuan.org/xxxxx/ccccc... plus <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico"> to a URL with "...org//assets/..." while others don't and instead correct this to read "...org/assets/..." |
| 00:11.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | check: why is there any difference between the content of both URLs posted 4 lines above (nginx level), and should the "href="/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89..." actually start with "/" (css level?) |
| 00:16.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I claim the beer from myself since I proved myself wrong ;-P |
| 00:16.51 | fsmithred | neat trick |
| 00:19.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | page that lists all issues? this one? https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=opened&utf8=%E2%9C%93 |
| 00:21.21 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 00:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~devuan bugtracker is https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all |
| 00:21.25 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 00:21.25 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 00:21.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn |
| 00:21.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#devuan bugtracker is https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all |
| 00:21.42 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 00:21.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget devuan bugtracker |
| 00:21.56 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot devuan bugtracker |
| 00:22.06 | fsmithred | infobot is a teen? |
| 00:22.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | err technically yes. :-) why? |
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| 00:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | see /msg nickserv info infobot |
| 00:24.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | when she was a baby we called her apt |
| 00:25.04 | fsmithred | it was the answering everything with 'okay' that tipped me off. |
| 00:25.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
| 00:25.43 | fsmithred | so the issue I posted is not there. I must have posted it in a back corner somewhere |
| 00:25.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | watch out! I'll show you she's intelligent |
| 00:26.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#devuan bugtracker is https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all |
| 00:26.03 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i already had it that way |
| 00:26.43 | fsmithred | lol |
| 00:26.56 | fsmithred | ok, I didn't post an issue, I created a project |
| 00:27.00 | fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/fsmithred/backports-priority |
| 00:27.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 00:28.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a good project though ;-) |
| 00:28.29 | fsmithred | yeah, if I had the power to do something about it. |
| 00:29.43 | fsmithred | ok, when I click on 'New Issue' I get a search box |
| 00:29.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 00:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I got tricked into picking editors/devuan.org instead editors/devuan-www there |
| 00:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | or somesuch |
| 00:31.12 | fsmithred | does everyone have trouble navigating that site? |
| 00:31.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly the former being meant for DWN |
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| 00:41.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsmithred: I'm basically lost with navigation there |
| 00:42.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's mostly guess and try until I'm there |
| 00:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe takes a while until you grok the concept |
| 00:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hellekin: ping |
| 00:49.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaromil: also ping |
| 00:50.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | did you add a rewrite? it should rewrite single-slashed /assets too, not only //assets |
| 00:51.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually wonder if I've seen a rewrite rule like //* -> /* |
| 00:53.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | or /* -> * |
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| 02:42.58 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: OK. I just goton squeeze. The favicon picker there found the new icon but it didn't display in the toolbar until I blanked it then reset it. |
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| 03:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | THE HECK!! now https://git.devuan.org//assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico also doesn't work |
| 03:38.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | it really doesn't make sense to try and decrypt this riddle without any background info about what's going on at the server side |
| 03:40.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | gwenview <(wget -O - git.devuan.org/$(wget git.devuan.org 2>/dev/null -O -|grep '<link rel="shortcut icon"'|sed 's#<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="\([^"]*\)" />#\1#')) # now suddenly throws a tantrum |
| 03:41.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | Loading â63â failed Gwenview cannot display documents of type application/gzip |
| 03:42.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | HTTP-Anforderung gesendet, warte auf Antwort... 301 Moved Permanently |
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| 07:14.03 | virrus | Not sure where should i post it (message during apt-get upgrade): |
| 07:14.04 | virrus | supported-versions: WARNING! Unknown distribution: devuan |
| 07:14.05 | virrus | /usr/share/postgresql-common/supported-versions: line 64: ID_LIKE: unbound variable |
| 07:14.05 | virrus | /usr/share/postgresql-common/supported-versions: line 67: ID_LIKE: unbound variable |
| 07:14.05 | virrus | Please submit this as a bug report to your distribution. |
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| 07:41.37 | detha | meh. a debian script that checks specifically for [dD]ebian or [uU]buntu |
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| 07:48.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 07:48.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bugtracker |
| 07:48.43 | infobot | bugtracker is probably https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all |
| 07:52.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc which devuan-editors/* this should go to |
| 07:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas there's nothing else than devuan-editors |
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| 08:34.59 | penelopa | Good day all! |
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| 11:38.07 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer05: postgresql issues have nothing to do with devuan-editors. Either devuan-packages if the package is there, or devuan/devuan-project/issues otherwise. |
| 11:39.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, none of those appeared in the dropdown selector |
| 11:40.22 | hellekin | what drop-down selector? |
| 11:40.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-06-06 Mon 09:52:23] <DocScrutinizer05> alas there's nothing else than devuan-editors |
| 11:40.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
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| 11:41.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopqJ2262.png |
| 11:42.29 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer05: I'm not sure what that is |
| 11:42.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | then look at https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all to find it |
| 11:43.11 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer05: but it seems to complete on existing things, so if fsmithred created a group, it probably doesn't appear there before it exists. |
| 11:43.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | so? |
| 11:43.37 | hellekin | so what? I don't know what you're asking for. |
| 11:44.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm asking what you suggest I shoukld have done instead of posting the postgresql issue report to where I posted it |
| 11:44.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you criticized without offering a correct way |
| 11:45.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | there is no devuan/devuan-project/issues |
| 11:46.45 | hellekin | I think I did |
| 11:46.57 | hellekin | < hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: postgresql issues have nothing to do with devuan-editors. Either devuan-packages if the package is there, or devuan/devuan-project/issues otherwise. |
| 11:47.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | HECK! |
| 11:47.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | there is no devuan/devuan-project/issues |
| 11:47.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopqJ2262.png |
| 11:47.34 | hellekin | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues |
| 11:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | aha! so I shall know that URL by heart? |
| 11:48.03 | fsmithred | hellekin, where you you find such a link when you're navigating the web site? |
| 11:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
| 11:48.39 | hellekin | fsmithred: that's a good question. |
| 11:48.39 | fsmithred | I tried to post an issue over a month ago, and I thought I did it, but I actually created a project. |
| 11:49.01 | hellekin | that's... interesting. |
| 11:49.05 | fsmithred | when I go to the page with all the issues listed, and I click on new issue, I get a search box |
| 11:49.15 | fsmithred | which prompts me with my projects |
| 11:49.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, that's "my projects"? |
| 11:49.37 | fsmithred | I think I'm starting to understand - an issue has to be linked to a specific project |
| 11:49.43 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: even if you are logged in? |
| 11:49.44 | hellekin | yes |
| 11:49.49 | KatolaZ | sure |
| 11:49.51 | fsmithred | yeah, I'm logged in |
| 11:50.11 | KatolaZ | I just tried addin an issue in https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues |
| 11:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I don't grok that whole thing |
| 11:50.23 | KatolaZ | and it works (I didn't submit, but I don't get a "search" box...) |
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| 11:51.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a howto would be something useful |
| 11:51.29 | fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, if you go to https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues and look BETWEEN the issues, there's some fine print |
| 11:51.37 | hellekin | yes, the howto was kind of pending the introduction of bugs.devuan.org, but I guess we need it now. |
| 11:51.43 | fsmithred | which links you to a text-entry page |
| 11:51.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe it's just me, but I don't think this thing is self-explanatory |
| 11:52.11 | fsmithred | no, it's not intuitive |
| 11:52.11 | KatolaZ | DocScrutinizer05: it's how it usually works in other bug-reporting software |
| 11:52.23 | KatolaZ | the issue is related to a project/packet |
| 11:52.37 | fsmithred | yeah, but it's not obvious by looking at the page |
| 11:53.05 | fsmithred | and the big green button that says + New Issue is kinda misleading |
| 11:53.13 | fsmithred | or lacking in information |
| 11:53.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, what I'm supposed to think when I look at https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all and see the "New" button there? |
| 11:53.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | or what fsmithred said |
| 11:53.52 | fsmithred | clicking on the fine print found between the issues is more productive |
| 11:54.12 | fsmithred | light-grey fine print |
| 11:54.18 | KatolaZ | DocScrutinizer05: you are looking to all issues of all projects.... |
| 11:54.54 | hellekin | is thinking about installing gitlab from source to be able to customize it without being coerced into gitlab branding |
| 11:54.57 | KatolaZ | so "New Issue" has to ask you which project you would like your issue to be assigned to... |
| 11:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, and it offers...: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopqJ2262.png |
| 11:55.51 | hellekin | which is the list of projects you're participating in |
| 11:55.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I picked what seemed to be least misfit |
| 11:56.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | how am I supposed to understand that a "New" button shows me a list of MY projects? |
| 11:57.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | the general case is somebody not even being logged in when she's going to post a bug report |
| 11:57.14 | hellekin | I guess because it's in your dashboard |
| 11:57.17 | fsmithred | when I sign in, there's no obvious way to get to a list of all projects |
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| 11:57.30 | fsmithred | or all issues |
| 11:57.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the whole paradigm is evading me |
| 11:58.50 | fsmithred | really? |
| 11:58.59 | hellekin | it's very simple, and please don't try to make it complicated: 1) if this is about a devuan package, the issue goes in the issues of the devuan-packages/the-culprit-package/issues; |
| 11:59.25 | hellekin | 2) if this concerns a devuan package that is not in devuan-packages, then it goes to devuan/devuan-project/issues; |
| 11:59.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | then pretty please reomoce that "New" button in "all issues" |
| 11:59.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | remove* |
| 11:59.51 | fsmithred | or change its name |
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| 12:00.10 | hellekin | 3) if it concerns devuan infrastructure -> devuan-infrastructure/todo/issues |
| 12:00.21 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: when you sign in yo go to "Projects" and click on "Explore Projects" and you have a list of all projects |
| 12:00.23 | hellekin | look: customization != gitlab |
| 12:00.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I expect that such "New" button offers all existing projects |
| 12:00.55 | hellekin | 4) anything to do with web presence, etc/ go to devuan-editors/devuan-www/issues |
| 12:01.13 | hellekin | 5) anything else goes to devuan/devuan-project/issues for triaging |
| 12:01.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | or, maybe I'm on the completely wrong landing zone for reporting bugs, on https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all ? |
| 12:01.45 | hellekin | the dashboard issues screen is good to review/report issues on projects you're working on. |
| 12:02.05 | fsmithred | maybe there should be a link to Explore Issues |
| 12:02.35 | hellekin | anyway, devuan.org/ should provide a page to document all this and avoid that problem. |
| 12:02.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | so this factoid is obbviously useless and incorrect: |
| 12:02.39 | fsmithred | I have found the Explore Projects link before, but there were times I wanted to get to the list of all issues |
| 12:02.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bugtracker |
| 12:02.42 | infobot | hmm... bugtracker is https://git.devuan.org/dashboard/issues?assignee_id=&author_id=&milestone_title=&scope=all&sort=id_desc&state=all |
| 12:02.54 | hellekin | Especially if we introduce bugs.devuan.org, it's gonna be important |
| 12:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | please provide the correct URL for generic "bugtracker", for noobs |
| 12:04.16 | djph | isn't it on the gitlab page? |
| 12:04.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | where should a Joe Averageuser get sent to, to report an arbitrary bug? |
| 12:05.23 | djph | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues (NOTE -- AFAIK, could fully be wrong) |
| 12:05.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, IF that's the page, then fine |
| 12:05.55 | hellekin | !bugtracker is https://devuan.org/os/issues (soon) |
| 12:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bugtracker is https://devuan.org/os/issues (soon) |
| 12:06.17 | infobot | ...but bugtracker is already something else... |
| 12:06.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, bugtracker is https://devuan.org/os/issues (soon) |
| 12:06.27 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 12:06.35 | hellekin | infobot: stfu and learn what the humans tell you |
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| 12:07.43 | hellekin | can imagine being the bot molester in an android-invaded society. |
| 12:07.52 | djph | oh, okay, fixing notes here too |
| 12:08.11 | fsmithred | I think I just did it right. |
| 12:08.30 | fsmithred | lol |
| 12:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I will send next virrus (user) to ~bugtracker |
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| 12:56.18 | TwistedFate | Does Devuan use udev? |
| 12:57.07 | dave24 | TwistedFate: eudev I think: https://github.com/gentoo/eudev |
| 13:00.09 | fsmithred | udev |
| 13:00.47 | fsmithred | there are deb packages for eudev, a couple of places, I think |
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| 13:07.47 | hellekin | eudev is definitely on the radar to replace udev, since vdev isn't there yet. |
| 13:09.02 | fsmithred | TwistedFate, http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/pool/main/e/eudev/ |
| 13:09.54 | dave24 | i thought udev can't actually run without systemd anymore? or are you using a really old version? |
| 13:10.20 | fsmithred | Installed: 215-17+deb8u4 |
| 13:10.20 | TwistedFate | fsmithred, Thanks but I am not savvy enough for such exhibitions :) |
| 13:10.34 | fsmithred | no systemd, no libsystemd0 |
| 13:11.10 | fsmithred | TwistedFate, if you want to try a live CD with eudev, I can give you a link |
| 13:11.28 | TwistedFate | fsmithred, Is it official Devuan ISO? |
| 13:11.33 | fsmithred | no |
| 13:12.00 | fsmithred | it's an exegnu experiment |
| 13:14.59 | fsmithred | afaik, official devuan doesn't have eudev now |
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| 13:17.26 | fsmithred | dave24, udev doesn't require systemd, but if you poke around in your directories, you'll find things named 'systemd-udev'. I think that's some kind of warning to let you know what's coming. Kinda like Zulu war drums approaching. |
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| 13:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, udiskd seems a part of systemd-udevd, or at least entangled. man udev opens systemd manpage |
| 13:27.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-06-06T10:57:44.182697+02:00 localhost org.freedesktop.UDisks[1028]: **** Refreshing ATA SMART data for /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda |
| 13:27.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-06-06T10:57:44.204602+02:00 localhost org.freedesktop.UDisks[1028]: helper(pid 14947): launched job udisks-helper-ata-smart-collect on /dev/sda |
| 13:27.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> man udevd |
| 13:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | man: /usr/share/man/systemd-udevd.service.8 kann nicht geöffnet werden: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden |
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| 13:45.22 | hellekin | jsfarinet: re qemu try https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 13:45.45 | jsfarinet | Wow, thanks a lot!!! |
| 13:48.24 | jaromil | ~qemu is https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 13:48.30 | infobot | ...but qemu is already something else... |
| 13:48.38 | jaromil | ~qemu |
| 13:48.38 | infobot | somebody said qemu was an x86 emulator at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ |
| 13:48.58 | jaromil | ~devuan-qemu is https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 13:48.58 | infobot | jaromil: okay |
| 13:49.29 | jaromil | wonder if it will be ever used |
| 13:51.13 | jsfarinet | Jaromil: you mean devuan in qemu? If so, i will do - it's easier to play around in a virtual machine i think ... |
| 13:52.21 | jsfarinet | when it comes to "bricoler" themes and configurations ... |
| 13:53.20 | Centurion_Dan | I run a bunch of kvm vm's and have spun up qemu emulators for armel in devuan. We also use qemu for the arm* build machines.] |
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| 14:22.13 | hellekin | jsfarinet: I updated the QEMU page with up-to-date instructions https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
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| 14:36.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#devuan qemu is https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 14:36.33 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 14:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~devuan-qemu is <reply> see #devuan qemu |
| 14:37.17 | infobot | ...but devuan-qemu is already something else... |
| 14:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, devuan-qemu is <reply> see #devuan qemu |
| 14:37.29 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 14:37.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~qemu |
| 14:37.36 | infobot | qemu is, like, https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 14:37.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~devuan-qemu |
| 14:37.54 | infobot | i guess #devuan qemu is https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu |
| 14:40.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #devuan |
| 14:40.01 | infobot | chan: #devuan (see _default also) |
| 14:40.01 | infobot | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | see factoidSearch |
| 14:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | $chan means it (first) searches for factoids with a leading "#devuan " |
| 14:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | _defauilt is all the rest |
| 14:41.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal devuan |
| 14:41.42 | infobot | "devuan" is "the most awesome distro, or https://devuan.org" |
| 14:41.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 14:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal qemu |
| 14:41.55 | infobot | "#devuan qemu" is "https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu" |
| 14:42.47 | _acme_ | have devuan running on a KVM server :) (qemu) |
| 14:43.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | '<reply> see' is a "symlink" |
| 14:46.24 | golinux | would like to vaporize infobot |
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| 14:47.48 | Inocuous | I know this guy on another network that has a forked linux distro, he went on reddit and did 'ask me anything' thing. that might be cool for Devuan devs to do. |
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| 15:29.28 | jsfarinet | ReHi - this https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu does not work for me. I get the prompt i should define the (raw) format. How do i do this? |
| 15:41.23 | hellekin | jsfarinet: what prompt is that? Where does it stop working? |
| 15:41.43 | hellekin | Inocuous: reddit users might want to do that. |
| 15:45.03 | jsfarinet | This |
| 15:45.12 | jsfarinet | Failed to open module: libiscsi.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:45.13 | jsfarinet | WARNING: Image format was not specified for 'devuan_disk' and probing guessed raw. |
| 15:45.15 | jsfarinet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.16 | jsfarinet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.43 | hellekin | how did you create the devuan_disk image? |
| 15:45.59 | jsfarinet | like described on the site |
| 15:47.35 | KatolaZ | jsfarinet: it is not nevessary to spicify raw, btw |
| 15:47.50 | KatolaZ | ~specify |
| 15:48.31 | jsfarinet | It starts the same window like the qemu launcher does ... |
| 15:49.18 | KatolaZ | jsfarinet: what is the problem exactly? |
| 15:49.40 | KatolaZ | are you following the procedure exactly |
| 15:49.42 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 15:50.30 | jsfarinet | In the installer, when it comes to recognize harddisk, i'm prompted with an ocean of drivers to choose to recognize the disk, but i don't have an idea which one i should choose ... |
| 15:50.45 | KatolaZ | wait jathan |
| 15:50.49 | KatolaZ | sorry |
| 15:50.51 | KatolaZ | wait jsfarinet |
| 15:51.05 | KatolaZ | do you have the disk_imge as hda? |
| 15:51.20 | jathan | KatolaZ: Hi, don't worry. |
| 15:51.46 | KatolaZ | sorry jathan, wrong completion on irssi ;) |
| 15:52.03 | jsfarinet | I install from an .iso - which works (exactly like there in the site ...) |
| 15:52.17 | KatolaZ | you did not answer my question though |
| 15:52.19 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 15:52.28 | KatolaZ | do you have your disk_img specified as hda? |
| 15:55.12 | jsfarinet | wait, now it works, apparently - the disk is recognized. May be i got the errors because before i choose expert install. This time i chose graphical installation ... :) |
| 15:55.36 | KatolaZ | I have only made expert installs and never had your problem |
| 15:55.44 | KatolaZ | only when I gforgot to use -hda |
| 15:55.49 | KatolaZ | that's why I was asking |
| 15:57.19 | jsfarinet | It seems to go through - now it will be interesting when it comes to reboot :) |
| 15:58.27 | jsfarinet | Would be nice to have a clean virtual installation: So it will get easier to "bricoler" the jwm desktop ;) |
| 15:59.24 | KatolaZ | it shouldnt be so diffibult jsfarinet |
| 15:59.39 | jsfarinet | Just a question: the simple install installs Jessie, right? To upgrade to ascii i change the repositories and then do a dist-upgrade, correct? |
| 15:59.44 | KatolaZ | I have several qemu images with different versions of devuan on my laptop.... |
| 16:00.01 | KatolaZ | you can install ascii as well from the standard install, IIRC |
| 16:00.19 | jsfarinet | No, it's not so difficult, but for the artworks you have to do lots of logouts/logins etc. |
| 16:00.45 | jsfarinet | No, i do not think so. Only in the expert graphic installation |
| 16:01.36 | KatolaZ | oh maybe is just in expert mode |
| 16:01.40 | jsfarinet | As for jwm, it's a struggle with the ugly debian menu structure which comes by default |
| 16:01.53 | KatolaZ | I don't have that much experience with the graphic installer, sorry |
| 16:02.14 | jsfarinet | there are very nice menumaker tools but they are not in the debian repositories :-( |
| 16:02.57 | KatolaZ | well, you can always package them for devuan :) |
| 16:02.57 | jsfarinet | (katolaz, i know that's not the point you are interested in, and i understand well why - and i share your point of view |
| 16:03.18 | KatolaZ | that would be a nice addition |
| 16:03.27 | jsfarinet | I'm not able to be a packager - too stupid computerknowledgewise :-( |
| 16:03.46 | KatolaZ | nobody is too stupid to package :) |
| 16:03.59 | jsfarinet | But may be i could learn how to do (?) |
| 16:04.34 | jsfarinet | Is there an instruction? I could - try to - learn from? |
| 16:04.50 | KatolaZ | the standard debian package maintainer guide is fine so fare |
| 16:05.15 | KatolaZ | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
| 16:05.36 | KatolaZ | just skip the things related to the specific procedure to submit your package in a repo |
| 16:05.40 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:06.01 | jsfarinet | Thanks! |
| 16:06.51 | jsfarinet | The tools i would like to have are xdgmenumaker (made by gapan, one maintainer of Salix - slackbased distro) |
| 16:07.28 | jsfarinet | jwmconf (a config script for jwm) and cb-exit and/or oblogout |
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| 16:08.34 | jsfarinet | Promised, i'll read that and maybe together with irrwahn (who's my guide for doing that jwm thing) i'll succeed (?) |
| 16:09.03 | hellekin | Centurion_Dan: why is there a "Jessie 1.0 Beta2" milestone? This is so confusing. |
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| 16:22.46 | jsfarinet | I'm leayeving. Thanks to you for your patience! Bye |
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| 17:58.07 | Inocuous | beta2? I saw that. Is it for real? |
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| 18:52.14 | hellekin | it's the next milestone |
| 18:52.14 | hellekin | that is, the current one |
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| 19:00.26 | GeneralStupid | OMG. Debian IRC channel -.- |
| 19:02.14 | Chanku | ? |
| 19:02.27 | Lydia_K | Oh? |
| 19:02.28 | Lydia_K | Do tell |
| 19:06.35 | GeneralStupid | i upgraded from wheezy to jessie and (surprise!) there is no init installed at the moment... |
| 19:06.53 | Inocuous | how can that be? |
| 19:07.09 | GeneralStupid | systemd? |
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| 19:08.53 | GeneralStupid | its the second time that this happend to me |
| 19:09.08 | GeneralStupid | first time was from stable to testing (which is ok, i mean its testing) |
| 19:09.16 | GeneralStupid | this time was from old stable to stable. |
| 19:09.27 | GeneralStupid | debian WAS really a stable and nice linux. |
| 19:14.31 | golinux | GeneralStupid: You have that nick for a reason, I guess |
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| 19:15.05 | golinux | :) |
| 19:17.30 | GeneralStupid | it is my pc at work. i was not allowed to use devuan there. |
| 19:18.02 | GeneralStupid | btw. i upgraded a lot of machines from debian wheezy to devuan jessie, exactly like i tried with my pc at work ... |
| 19:19.00 | golinux | You need to educate your boss about the systemd clusterfsck |
| 19:19.54 | Lydia_K | Why would they care about the distro on your desktop? |
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| 19:20.43 | muep | desktop stuff is a quite common attack vector |
| 19:20.59 | Lydia_K | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.58 | muep | seems unlikely, given how windows is usually allowed in most organizations that make rules on what OS you are allowed to run |
| 19:22.12 | Lydia_K | I am of course, joking. |
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| 19:22.54 | Lydia_K | Ther idea they "security" would be a concern with a linux desktop vs the fleet of swiss cheese windows boxes is just silly |
| 19:23.57 | muep | the IT deparment is usually happier with people running stuff they know |
| 19:24.15 | Lydia_K | Of course, which is why many places say "no linux" |
| 19:24.30 | Lydia_K | but when they let you run linux, I can't imagine them caring which one. |
| 19:24.41 | muep | also which is why the distribution list may be limited in places that do allow linux |
| 19:25.08 | Lydia_K | Crazy. |
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| 19:25.56 | Lydia_K | At any rate, I think GeneralStupid should just add the devuan repos to his debian box so he can install sysvinit and the required dependencies ;) |
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| 19:28.04 | openfbtd | He can install sysvinit even without doing that |
| 19:29.02 | Lydia_K | Yeah, I know. |
| 19:46.23 | GeneralStupid | ah its not my desktop :) i just updated because i wanted newer tools |
| 19:47.14 | GeneralStupid | the avr-gcc in wheezy is old :D |
| 19:47.23 | GeneralStupid | i mean, in stable its also old but its ok |
| 19:47.32 | GeneralStupid | and thats just the start... |
| 19:57.03 | Inocuous | my last computer related job, the IT person had all the control over the PC's. No installations of anything. Especially OS. |
| 20:24.46 | GeneralStupid | Inocuous: same for me |
| 20:25.47 | GeneralStupid | Inocuous: but the last guy told me:"ok, i dont want to do that, but we need to upgrade so, i add you tu the sudo group" |
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| 20:37.22 | Inocuous | nice. |
| 20:38.06 | gci_admin | So, 'sudo su -' and you're root? |
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| 20:55.02 | FNTM-U3 | hi devuan users O/ |
| 20:55.59 | FNTM-U3 | I have a problem. I want add my user to suder list. it seems debian by default doesn't allow wheel for this. could you guys help me? |
| 20:56.56 | FNTM-U3 | right now i do su -c "command...." which is a hassel |
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| 22:50.57 | cyteen__ | FNTM-U3: echo "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/local |
| 22:51.28 | cyteen__ | changing root for your user, and adapting the privs as necessary. |
| 23:04.03 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: are you there, by any chance? |
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