| 00:06.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, I only know :{:&;:};: or somesuch |
| 00:07.48 | KatolaZ | :(){:|:&};: |
| 00:07.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah knew I missed sth |
| 00:09.25 | KatolaZ | the best way to know if you remember it correctly it to actually executing it ;) |
| 00:09.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | why |? |
| 00:09.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 00:09.49 | KatolaZ | ~execute |
| 00:10.50 | KatolaZ | and ksx4system, :|: might be valid in bash |
| 00:10.58 | KatolaZ | it depends on what is : |
| 00:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually null function |
| 00:11.57 | KatolaZ | it's not a null function in this case |
| 00:12.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that obviously may differ by context |
| 00:12.11 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 00:14.02 | MinceR | | is what makes sure the number of processes increases, afaict :> |
| 00:15.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | is lazy, so... : ${interval:=1}; |
| 00:17.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | MinceR: aah wait, when no | then it would terminate as soon as first recursive call returns error due to out-of-whatever-resources? |
| 00:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | | catches that error and spawns a new process |
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| 00:19.19 | MinceR | if it had ; instead of |, it would wait for the first : to return, i think |
| 00:19.47 | MinceR | with |, the two :-s run in parallel |
| 00:19.55 | KatolaZ | no call to : return, ever... |
| 00:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it does now too. But with ; it would abort when first : returns error |
| 00:20.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | KatolaZ: yes it does return, when e.g. process table full |
| 00:20.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | with error |
| 00:20.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 00:21.18 | MinceR | establishing the pipe might also consume some other resources |
| 00:21.31 | KatolaZ | that's the point, indeed MinceR |
| 00:21.55 | KatolaZ | you run out of memory before you run out of processes, AFAIK |
| 00:22.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh dang, again mistaken. it's pipe |, not or || |
| 00:23.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | (run out of processes) depends. On maemo for example the process table is only 1024 iirc |
| 00:23.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually it seems it's 32768 |
| 00:24.34 | KatolaZ | but you don't create new processes for bash functions, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:24.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | (pipe) so yep, it runds two instances of itself in a new subshell |
| 00:25.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | not for functions, but for subshells |
| 00:25.23 | KatolaZ | DocScrutinizer05: you don'e have any subshell there |
| 00:25.32 | KatolaZ | functions are evaluated in the same shell context |
| 00:25.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | & ? |
| 00:26.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | without & it would be pointless |
| 00:27.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | would just make that one shell burst |
| 00:27.19 | KatolaZ | sure |
| 00:27.47 | KatolaZ | but the first execution of : is not in another shell, IIUC |
| 00:27.57 | KatolaZ | it is the second one that spawns a new process |
| 00:28.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | the complete pipe is subshelled |
| 00:28.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | (:|:) |
| 00:31.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | x(){ |
| 00:31.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | x|x& |
| 00:31.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | } |
| 00:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think you can run the second command of a pipe in a subshell, async |
| 00:34.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, in my scripts I expicitly () subshell commands in: (read -t $timeout result <&5 && echo -n "${result: +0:-1}")& |
| 00:37.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/84768308 |
| 00:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | if the first cat wouldn't run in subshell (background), then the line would block since the first cat waits for input |
| 00:38.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | in background it gets stopped since there _is_ no stdin |
| 00:38.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> fg |
| 00:38.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat | cat |
| 00:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ff |
| 00:38.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ff |
| 00:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/83533714 |
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| 00:47.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw jr@saturn:~> :(){:|:}; : bash: Syntaxfehler beim unerwarteten Wort `{:' |
| 00:54.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmmmphhh |
| 00:55.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | ;-P |
| 00:56.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | ley's hope dang bash consumes some memory for each recursive function call |
| 00:58.37 | golinux | DocScrutinizer51: Check your msg |
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| 01:32.52 | ksx4system | KatolaZ: :|: is not a valid fork bomb (or resource depleting script) in bash, unfortunately |
| 01:33.07 | ksx4system | should be funny in powershell anyway |
| 01:33.28 | ksx4system | got no machine to test it though |
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| 01:52.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | I wonder how long it takes a user shell to deplete vital resources on :(){ ?|:; }; : |
| 01:52.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | oops |
| 01:53.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:17.10 | ksx4system | DocScrutinizer51: this shit is fast |
| 02:18.18 | ksx4system | expects under 1min |
| 02:18.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | not really, it swaps since... 90min now |
| 02:18.32 | ksx4system | swap? LOL |
| 02:18.52 | ksx4system | you remind me why I'm no longer using Macintosh... |
| 02:19.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | no ulimit, which I actually consider a bug of distro |
| 02:19.28 | ksx4system | ...64GB swap file? :P |
| 02:19.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | no, 10 |
| 02:20.46 | ksx4system | then 90mins is pretty long, weird |
| 02:21.27 | ksx4system | remembers it being a bit faster with quadcore 16gb box with no swap at all |
| 02:21.55 | ksx4system | (no ulimit, pretty lame config back then) |
| 02:26.03 | ksx4system | just cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null to finish it off :D |
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| 03:35.14 | furrywolf | off-topic: suggestions for CAD software? |
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| 04:05.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | I really wonder what that shit is doing |
| 04:06.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | shouldn't the shell *eventually* run out of RAM and get killed? |
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| 05:03.43 | ksx4system | DocScrutinizer51: cat thingie? it just wastes cpu cycles *very* efficiently |
| 05:03.53 | ksx4system | furrywolf: 2D or 3D? |
| 05:04.30 | ksx4system | if I really had to use something other than RiscCAD for RISC OS for 2D works I'd use LibreCAD |
| 05:04.44 | furrywolf | both, ideally. I have a few projects I need to do. one is architectual drawings (house floorplan). the others are machining projects, some 2d (basic pocketing ops), some 3d... |
| 05:06.12 | furrywolf | two pieces of software, one for floorplans, one for machining projects, would be fine, but it's two things to learn. |
| 05:17.00 | ksx4system | I'm so sorry, I'm not competent enough to point you to perfect CAD software :( |
| 05:17.19 | ksx4system | furrywolf: you might however check out BRL-CAD for your 3D needs |
| 05:24.39 | furrywolf | no devuan package? also, 3d solid modeling really isn't what I need for floor plans, which is the most immediately project... but I'll keep it in mind for later. thanks. |
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| 06:17.16 | ksx4system | furrywolf: it's not on Debian/Devuan repositories, deb package is available on sourceforge |
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| 09:41.29 | devil_ | tried different mirrors already |
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| 12:23.55 | Inocuous | good morning. |
| 12:24.52 | Inocuous | .force |
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| 12:58.21 | Guest_76656 | Allah is doing |
| 12:58.45 | Guest_76656 | sun is not doing Allah is doing |
| 12:58.55 | Guest_76656 | moon is not doing Allah is doing |
| 12:59.21 | Guest_76656 | stars are not doing Allah is doing |
| 12:59.31 | Guest_76656 | planets are not doing Allah is doing |
| 12:59.48 | Guest_76656 | galaxies are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:00.04 | Guest_76656 | oceans are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:00.17 | Guest_76656 | mountains are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:00.34 | Guest_76656 | trees are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:00.43 | Guest_76656 | mom is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:00.48 | Akuli | for i in sun moon starts planets galaxies oceans mountains; do echo $i is not doing Allah is doing; done |
| 13:03.52 | Guest_76656 | dad is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:04.05 | Guest_76656 | boss is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:04.16 | Guest_76656 | job is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:04.33 | Guest_76656 | dollar is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:05.04 | dindinx | can someone K-line this systemd lover? |
| 13:05.58 | Guest_76656 | degree is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:07.02 | Guest_76656 | medicine is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.35 | Guest_76656 | customers are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.58 | Guest_76656 | you can not get a job without the permission of allah |
| 13:09.50 | Akuli | Someone /msg me when it's safe to come back. |
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| 13:10.36 | Guest_76656 | you can not get married without the permission of allah |
| 13:12.08 | Guest_76656 | nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah |
| 13:12.54 | Guest_76656 | light is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:13.23 | Guest_76656 | fan is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:13.35 | Guest_76656 | businessess are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:13.46 | Guest_76656 | america is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:13.58 | Lieke | having imaginary friends must be great |
| 13:16.12 | Guest_76656 | fire can not burn without the permission of allah |
| 13:17.43 | Guest_76656 | knife can not cut without the permission of allah |
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| 13:17.55 | Guest_76656 | rulers are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:19.43 | Guest_76656 | governments are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:21.31 | Guest_76656 | sleep is not doing Allah is doing |
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| 13:23.07 | Guest_76656 | hunger is not doing Allah is doing |
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| 13:24.19 | Guest_76656 | food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger |
| 13:25.32 | Guest_76656 | water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst |
| 13:26.54 | Guest_76656 | seeing is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:27.07 | Guest_76656 | hearing is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:27.34 | Guest_76656 | seasons are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:27.44 | Guest_76656 | weather is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:27.54 | Guest_76656 | humans are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:28.05 | Guest_76656 | animals are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:28.45 | Guest_76656 | the best amongst you are those who learn and teach quran |
| 13:29.35 | Guest_76656 | one letter read from book of Allah amounts to one good deed and Allah multiplies one good deed ten times |
| 13:30.52 | Guest_76656 | hearts get rusted as does iron with water to remove rust from heart recitation of Quran and rememberance of death |
| 13:34.52 | Guest_76656 | heart is likened to a mirror |
| 13:35.13 | Guest_76656 | when a person commits one sin a black dot sustains the heart |
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| 13:39.40 | jfl_ | Hello |
| 13:40.55 | jfl_ | I'm back on my debian disk again, because I just cannot operate without my iceweasel and icedove or with all the crashes. |
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| 13:41.32 | jfl_ | I'm going to have to get the hardware issue straightened out, but not today. |
| 13:41.58 | jfl_ | I'm really delighted that devuan has come as far as it has. |
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| 13:43.17 | jfl_ | During the time that I got over the love affair I developed for debian and decided that I had to find something ... more flexible |
| 13:44.49 | jfl_ | I thought about and looked for other distributions ... I went with gentoo, for awhile. While their operation sounds good on paper, I found a pretty closed community there. |
| 13:44.55 | Guest_8656 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger |
| 13:45.52 | jfl_ | As I mentioned the other day, I was about to install arch linux, when I discovered that they'd gone systemd. |
| 13:46.55 | jfl_ | Then I looked a devuan, again. From my point of view there hadn't been much change at devuan in a year or so, and I was wondering what was going to become of it |
| 13:47.07 | jfl_ | But things are looking good. |
| 13:48.25 | jfl_ | Another system I thought interesting was/is guix and especially their approach to package management ... after gentoo, I had some ideas of how wrong even a good system might go. |
| 13:48.29 | Guest_8656 | read book www.fazaileamaal.com |
| 13:49.02 | jfl_ | The 'functional' approach seemed/seems to me to be unassailable. |
| 13:49.36 | Guest_8656 | read book www.muntakhabahadith.com |
| 13:50.03 | Guest_8656 | need spiritual teacher visit www.alhaadi.org.za |
| 13:50.25 | jfl_ | Now I've just read about Nix and NixOS, although they seem independent. Nix is the package manager for NixOS, and is 'functional' as well. |
| 13:51.27 | jfl_ | One of the things that struck me at devuan was the 'minimalist' installation development. That seems like a 'good' idea to me. |
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| 13:52.12 | Guest_8656 | Allah created the sky without any pillars |
| 13:52.38 | jfl_ | As I'd got off to a rocky start with my devuan installation, just walked the straight and narrow with the netinstall. Which worked out wonderfully. |
| 13:54.23 | Guest_8656 | allah makes the sun rise from the east and sets it in the west |
| 13:54.58 | jfl_ | Has anyone here any experience with Nix at all? This functional package management Nix, I believer there's another Nix that is involved with 'asymmetrical' multiprocessing using plan 9, which also sounds interestig on a completely different plane. |
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| 13:55.59 | jfl_ | Guix seems not yet ready for prime time, but Nix seems like it might be up and running. And I imagine that it might run with devuan as well. |
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| 13:58.26 | Guest_8656 | allah makes the day into the night and the night into the day |
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| 14:00.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | moin |
| 14:00.56 | chr[] | moin |
| 14:02.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanops, what about a ban? |
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| 14:05.31 | Guest_8656 | allah gives life and death |
| 14:05.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sysops give ban |
| 14:05.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanops even, here |
| 14:06.32 | chr[] | they're rammadan :/ |
| 14:07.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | even freenode staff |
| 14:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-(( |
| 14:07.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | MinceR: ^^^ |
| 14:08.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik no ramadan now |
| 14:09.22 | Guest_8656 | all creation are useless,worthless,hopeless |
| 14:09.42 | chr[] | so I guess it's Miller time |
| 14:10.16 | Guest_8656 | can not do |
| 14:10.20 | Guest_8656 | can not benefit |
| 14:10.26 | Guest_8656 | can not harm |
| 14:10.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | MinceR: ^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:10.46 | Guest_8656 | allah is the doer of each and everything |
| 14:11.18 | Guest_8656 | when Allah wants us to stand we stand |
| 14:11.48 | Guest_8656 | when Allah wants us to sit we sit |
| 14:12.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | when MinceR whants you to die, you die! |
| 14:12.20 | dindinx | just like my dog |
| 14:12.26 | Guest_8656 | i am not doing Allah is doing |
| 14:12.49 | Guest_8656 | you are not doing Allah is doing |
| 14:12.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | freenode is full of shit, /stats p is empty |
| 14:13.10 | Guest_8656 | atom bomb is not doing Allah is doing |
| 14:13.35 | n4dir | I think i got the point. No need to babble on |
| 14:13.59 | Lieke | just put it on ignore until an op wakes up |
| 14:16.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
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| 14:18.41 | Guest_8656 | medicine has no power to cure |
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| 14:20.11 | Guest_8656 | two people take same medicine one passes away and one does not |
| 14:21.30 | Guest_8656 | degree has no power to give job |
| 14:23.15 | Guest_8656 | many people have degrees but do not have jobs |
| 14:25.28 | Guest_8656 | sustenance does not depend on effort |
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| 14:27.35 | Guest_8656 | one person is working very much but is earning very less |
| 14:30.06 | Guest_8656 | other person is working very less but is earning very much |
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| 14:35.41 | Guest_8665 | rice is not doing Allah is doing |
| 14:37.08 | Guest_8665 | all creation get together can not create one grain of rice |
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| 14:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi uptime, thanks for having a look |
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| 14:46.51 | Inocuous | morning people. |
| 14:46.57 | fsmithred | hi |
| 14:48.39 | Inocuous | Gimp is such a pain in the nect. One thing I miss about windows is paint.net. That's probably the only thing come to think of it, haha |
| 14:50.38 | golinux | fsmithred: Morning! |
| 14:50.43 | fsmithred | hi golinux |
| 14:51.11 | fsmithred | gimp is great if you can figure out where stuff is in it |
| 14:52.35 | golinux | There is a learning curve |
| 14:52.53 | golinux | I've barely scratched the surface |
| 14:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | @freenode staff: thanks a lot |
| 14:53.17 | fsmithred | and you probably know it a lot better than I do |
| 14:53.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | you rock! |
| 14:57.56 | Inocuous | I get frustrated with switching functions. I go paste something, then go to unselect everything so I can move on to something else and it doesn't seem to deselect. I"m sure I'm missing something really basic. but anyway. It's a good day other wise. |
| 15:01.40 | fsmithred | I don't think you can unselect a tool; only select a different tool |
| 15:02.07 | fsmithred | I've screwed up a lot of things by forgetting to change the tool. |
| 15:03.06 | Inocuous | I'm trying to use it like paint.net and it's just not the same, it makes me swear. haha |
| 15:05.10 | fsmithred | I understand. I can't use windows very well, because it's too difficult and confusing. Linux is much simpler and user-friendly. |
| 15:05.34 | fsmithred | Plus, I have to wash my hands when I'm done using windows. |
| 15:05.39 | Inocuous | lol |
| 15:06.45 | Inocuous | windows 10 on a pc is like giant personal data sucking machine. They are so in bed with the feds now. It's unreal. |
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| 15:12.01 | fsmithred | Here comes a candle to light you to bed, |
| 15:12.01 | fsmithred | And here comes a chopper to chop off your head! |
| 15:13.47 | fsmithred | ok, I read about the sdk, but I don't really understand it. When I get home, I'll follow the instructions and see what happens. |
| 15:18.15 | Inocuous | Isn't reading the instructions ahead of time against computer usuge protocol? :) |
| 15:19.29 | fsmithred | lol, maybe. I just read enough to get started. |
| 15:19.34 | fsmithred | or get myself in trouble. |
| 15:20.00 | fsmithred | but that's about the only way I understand it. (getting in trouble) |
| 15:26.37 | Inocuous | my cron script log is weird today. "/var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 15:27.16 | fsmithred | yeah, you might be trying to run package manager when it's already running |
| 15:27.22 | fsmithred | check ps ax |
| 15:27.34 | golinux | I am a proponent of the zen mind, beginner's mind approach. ;) |
| 15:27.56 | fsmithred | come with an empty cup? |
| 15:28.21 | golinux | LOL! |
| 15:29.09 | golinux | afk |
| 15:33.56 | fsmithred | Inocuous, you have a cron job that uses the package manager? |
| 15:39.01 | fsmithred | bb in 10 min |
| 15:49.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | would a fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock help? |
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| 16:15.20 | coagen | so popular we're gettin spammers again... yay? |
| 16:18.34 | Akuli | I think that's not a problem yet, we just need an op here and everything'll be fine :) |
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| 17:34.31 | Inocuous | php channel is so bazaar. I have to stop trying to help anyone there. |
| 17:39.32 | Akuli | I used to think the same about #python, but i've realized how great it is when i want to make something perfect and i need help quickly |
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| 17:50.53 | Inocuous | they used to have this rule, maybe they still do, you couldn't hightlight an op or you might get kicked off the channel. |
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| 17:55.13 | Akuli | in #python? |
| 17:55.37 | Akuli | that's awful, nowadays we can highlight freely, saying lol is still a bad idea although a pm warning is all we get for that |
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| 21:35.10 | MinceR | DocScrutinizer05: sorry, i was away |
| 21:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | MinceR: no problem |
| 21:35.38 | MinceR | looks like that retard found this network too |
| 21:35.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | wel, not anymore |
| 21:35.58 | MinceR | he was all over AlphaChat a while ago |
| 21:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't get me wrong, I don't dispise religion too much, it's everybody's own business how to make sense of this mess we cal "world". But those retards that think they need to "fight" for whatever religious goal are really too much |
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| 23:40.12 | ksx4system | MinceR: what retard? |
| 23:40.21 | ksx4system | has some spam filtering measures |
| 23:40.45 | ksx4system | maybe somehing was just filtered |
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| 23:52.56 | golinux | ksx4system: Check out the scrollback |
| 23:53.19 | golinux | Unlikely filtered imo. |
| 23:56.06 | MinceR | ksx4system: the one that spams "X is not doing Allah is doing" |