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| 00:01.56 | elisax2e2 | hey, im getting random CPU hangs, where 1 kernel thread / cpu core is hung, and it locks up the whole system and needs a hard reset . I believe its related to this bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109081. I dont know how to actually verify if its a CPU bug, but it has happened on 3 different debian based distros. |
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| 00:06.01 | Brigo | elisax2e2, try different linux versions, or unix or windows or whatever. |
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| 00:06.48 | Brigo | elisax2e2, i mean, it's not a matter or distribution but linux kernel version, if they are almost the same, they could have the same bug. |
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| 00:07.32 | elisax2e2 | Brigo, i tried windows and it didnt have this issue. i think its a linux kernel issue |
| 00:07.44 | tomcres | also, if it's a processor bug, it might be alleviated by installing either amd64-microcode or intel-microcode depending on the processor brand |
| 00:08.13 | elisax2e2 | i didnt know those packages existed, ill try them |
| 00:08.27 | zykotick9 | elisax2e2: fyi, they are in non-free |
| 00:08.40 | tomcres | they're in non-free, so you'll have to add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list if you haven't already |
| 00:08.46 | elisax2e2 | gotcha, thanks |
| 00:08.54 | elisax2e2 | this has been a real headache |
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| 00:09.30 | tomcres | I understand. I had the same problem in Windows, oddly enough. Big reason why I'm on Debian now. :-D |
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| 00:10.09 | grateful | is there a group way to install the most common -dev files |
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| 00:10.24 | tomcres | grateful other than build-essential? |
| 00:10.49 | grateful | yeah |
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| 00:11.27 | Vizva | <elisax2e2> using nouveau? |
| 00:11.34 | grateful | like for a specific language, like all python dev/libs |
| 00:11.53 | elisax2e2 | Vizva, yeah |
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| 00:12.14 | Vizva | blacklist it and change to propr nvidia |
| 00:12.22 | elisax2e2 | Vizva, i thought it could be a graphics issue. this laptop has a dedicated nvidia card |
| 00:12.32 | Vizva | i faced it and use bumblebee |
| 00:12.44 | Vizva | too |
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| 00:13.54 | Vizva | ok i have optimus |
| 00:14.16 | Vizva | two cards inside |
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| 00:14.33 | Vizva | another is geforce gtx 760m |
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| 00:15.02 | Vizva | kernerl hung i faced and change no problem |
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| 00:15.14 | elisax2e2 | i have an intel integrated graphics and nvidia geforce gtx 770M |
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| 00:15.51 | Vizva | yes and use bumblebee too |
| 00:16.14 | Vizva | mine hung now because i rsync now :P |
| 00:16.43 | Vizva | the same word two times in a sentence bah |
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| 00:18.27 | Vizva | https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 00:19.15 | Vizva | and https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 00:19.37 | Vizva | i am away now |
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| 00:26.51 | RickHull | is there a way to update this page? https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS |
| 00:27.05 | RickHull | the instructions are no longer valid, at least for my recent experience |
| 00:27.29 | RickHull | it was much simpler to just edit the grml freedos image |
| 00:27.44 | RickHull | editing the downloaded image did not boot properly for me, unable to find command.com |
| 00:28.35 | RickHull | specifically, skip all of this: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS#FreeDOS |
| 00:29.00 | RickHull | instead, edit the balder10.img included with grml |
| 00:29.34 | RickHull | I added my bios update .exe to the balder10.img and it worked as expected |
| 00:30.41 | tomcres | You have to login/create an account in order to edit the wiki. |
| 00:31.00 | RickHull | ah, let me try that :) |
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| 00:32.47 | somiaj | last tiem I tried to create an account, the automatic feature was turned off due to spam attacks. You'll have to send an email to someone I think.. |
| 00:33.45 | tomcres | somiaj: yes, it will give you that info when you try to register |
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| 00:38.12 | missmbob | i have a wiki account but i sure as well dont want to edit a page last altered by patrick byrne :P |
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| 00:38.20 | missmbob | hell* |
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| 00:39.57 | dwarfmut | somebody here have a T60 notebook? |
| 00:40.21 | zykotick9 | dwarfmut: i don't anymore, but i've owned 4 of them... |
| 00:40.49 | somiaj | dwarfmut: it is best to ask your actual question, you get better support that way |
| 00:41.20 | zykotick9 | notes NONE of them had a support LCD for libreboot at the time... <- i'd guess it'd work now?!?! |
| 00:41.27 | zykotick9 | somiaj: +1 |
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| 00:42.16 | jak2000 | hi all |
| 00:42.31 | jak2000 | how to know wich linux distro have installed? |
| 00:42.41 | zykotick9 | jak2000: try "lsb_release -a" |
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| 00:43.14 | jak2000 | csh: lsb_release: command not found |
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| 00:43.29 | jak2000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.30 | jak2000 | Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
| 00:44.06 | zykotick9 | oldstable |
| 00:44.09 | jak2000 | # apt update and # apt-get update csh: apt-get: command not found |
| 00:44.10 | jak2000 | yes |
| 00:44.18 | jak2000 | how to update the room? |
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| 00:46.35 | crash_ | apt-get update room :) |
| 00:47.06 | jak2000 | csh: apt-get: command not found |
| 00:47.12 | jak2000 | how to update? arghhh |
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| 00:47.49 | tomcres | jak2000: type: printenv $PATH |
| 00:47.52 | zykotick9 | jak2000: do you mean to be using csh? and i don't think we understand what you are asking regarding update... |
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| 00:48.20 | tomcres | sorry, that's printenv PATH (no $) |
| 00:48.33 | jak2000 | csh: printenv: command not found |
| 00:48.34 | tomcres | it's been a while since I've used csh |
| 00:48.41 | jak2000 | i want update my linux, update and upgrade |
| 00:48.50 | tomcres | jak2000: try echo $PATH |
| 00:49.01 | jak2000 | done: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/lib/git-core |
| 00:49.03 | jak2000 | i am root |
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| 00:49.55 | tomcres | jak2000: yeah, I'm just trying to figure out why it can't find apt-get. Can you try this: whereis apt-get |
| 00:50.13 | jak2000 | csh: whereis: command not found |
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| 00:51.37 | zykotick9 | jak2000: you started with the question "how to know wich linux distro have installed?" <- what sort of machine/VM/VPS is this? |
| 00:51.42 | tomcres | jak2000: is /usr on a remote server? perhaps it's not mounted? |
| 00:51.51 | jak2000 | is a vps |
| 00:52.09 | jak2000 | i am on: https://admin.cdmon.com |
| 00:52.28 | somiaj | are you sure this is a debian vps? |
| 00:53.02 | somiaj | you could try to see if you get output from 'which dpkg' or 'which rpm' |
| 00:53.08 | tomcres | somiaj: /etc/issue said it was Debian 7 |
| 00:53.30 | somiaj | ahh, the $PATH seemed weird (like it is backwards what it would have been set in debian) |
| 00:53.43 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/yJ6jibfm |
| 00:54.22 | jak2000 | read please |
| 00:55.00 | zykotick9 | .. and I'll look down and whisper "No." |
| 00:55.01 | somiaj | jak2000: what is the output of ls /usr/bin/dpkg |
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| 00:55.41 | jak2000 | not exist the directory |
| 00:55.57 | somiaj | jak2000: ls /usr/bin (the /usr/bin directory does not exist? |
| 00:56.14 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/p7V9Bcf7 |
| 00:56.15 | somiaj | jak2000: check /etc/fstab, is /usr on a seperate partition, sounds like it isn't mounted. |
| 00:56.55 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/wEQAkR33 |
| 00:57.00 | jak2000 | ncant see |
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| 00:58.36 | somiaj | jak2000: so far those pasts don't exactly ahve the output I've asked for, but I don't see any binaries that should be installed. System might either be hosed or something else. |
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| 00:58.46 | somiaj | jak2000: I notice you have vim there, can you give the output of 'vim --version' |
| 00:58.49 | tomcres | no /etc/fstabâ¦definitely weird |
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| 01:00.08 | jak2000 | VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 (2010 Aug 15, compiled Nov 22 2016 08:25:58) |
| 01:00.10 | jak2000 | fist line |
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| 01:00.47 | somiaj | jak2000: I want the whole output |
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| 01:01.45 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/YryzsaC1 |
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| 01:02.37 | somiaj | yea that looks like a debian version of vim, but since you are missing dpkg a required package your system might be in some strange state. |
| 01:03.13 | Brigo | jak2000, is there a /var/lib/dpkg/ directory? |
| 01:03.33 | missmbob | looks like lish or similar (since he said vps) |
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| 01:04.39 | jak2000 | csh: cd: /var/lib/dpkg/: No such file or directory |
| 01:05.15 | awal1 | How to get the whole info about a given file (audio, video, text...) via cli just as with right clic + properties via x file manager? I mean a single command or a given utility instead of using separately ls, chmod, chown, ffmpeg, mplayer... |
| 01:05.30 | Brigo | jak2000, it don't like a debian system, at all. |
| 01:06.06 | Brigo | awal1, file file? |
| 01:06.13 | tomcres | awal1: file? |
| 01:06.19 | Brigo | file is a command :) |
| 01:06.25 | somiaj | awal1: what info do you want, it could be the info you want is not done via a single command. If you want anme/permissions, ls -l, if you want more info about mim-info and the likes use file as suggested. |
| 01:06.36 | tomcres | awal1: there's also mediainfo, which is great for multimedia files |
| 01:08.16 | awal1 | file just gives a bit of info, Brigo, tomcres |
| 01:08.43 | jak2000 | then cant update/upgrade? |
| 01:08.45 | awal1 | somiaj: in fact i want to get al the info as X file manager does, just with a single command |
| 01:09.20 | Brigo | jak2000, you can't without dpkg and apt/aptitude installed |
| 01:09.21 | somiaj | awal1: what makes you thikn the x file manager is usuing a single command, as opposed to a combination of commands and compling all the output on a single viewable window. |
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| 01:09.23 | tomcres | jak2000: I'm afraid not. You're lacking the package management tools. And without them, there's no way to upgrade in place. |
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| 01:10.12 | awal1 | somiaj: that's obvious, the file manager combines commands. my question was badly asked; so looking for a combination of commands, a script or something :P |
| 01:10.15 | missmbob | jak2000: why? you know nothing about this, not even what OS it is. so why upgrade it? to what end? what is it doing right now? what will it do once upgraded? |
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| 01:10.32 | missmbob | jak2000: are you just bored? |
| 01:10.40 | somiaj | awal1: Determine what info you want and write yourself a small script to string the commands together. |
| 01:10.59 | Brigo | jak2000, you could download and install them. I am wondering whyo someone would give you a systemd like that. |
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| 01:12.32 | awal1 | somiaj, hm, I'm not good on bash :P |
| 01:12.50 | somiaj | awal1: no time like the present to learn |
| 01:13.01 | Brigo | awal1, you are smart, you'll learn :) |
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| 01:13.50 | awal1 | trying all that the time :P |
| 01:14.04 | awal1 | trying that all the time |
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| 01:24.15 | ghostinzshell | My machine cannot retrieve Release files from any server for some reason. |
| 01:24.28 | ghostinzshell | Is there anything I should try? |
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| 01:24.33 | space-guest | hi |
| 01:24.42 | space-guest | can i install debian-kbsd in freebsd 12 ? |
| 01:24.54 | ghostinzshell | I've tested another machine running unstable as well and it retrieves the Release files just fine. |
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| 01:29.20 | jak2000 | Brigo, install apt-get? |
| 01:29.24 | jak2000 | i have acces via sftp |
| 01:29.31 | jak2000 | i can transfer files... |
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| 01:32.07 | missmbob | ghostinzshell: can you ping the mirrors or is that install having a dns issue? |
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| 01:32.50 | ghostinzshell | missmbob: It can retrieve everything else when updating from the repo except for the Release file. |
| 01:33.27 | ghostinzshell | missmbob: I've tried switching between ftp.cn.debian.org; ftp.sg.debian.org; ftp.us.debian.org; deb.debian.org |
| 01:33.29 | ghostinzshell | Same result. |
| 01:34.30 | ghostinzshell | Here's the output of apt currently: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f10b1da472e3f0376d9c33ca0abf3ff1 |
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| 01:35.48 | ghostinzshell | This is the output after removing all files in /var/lib/apt/lists and performing `apt update` again: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b9bb1074d8a837f0a48be9421ff3da3f |
| 01:35.49 | missmbob | ghostinzshell: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 01:37.38 | ghostinzshell | missmbob: http://termbin.com/tcca |
| 01:38.02 | missmbob | ghostinzshell: your deb-src line is wrong. you need a /debian/ |
| 01:38.52 | ghostinzshell | missmbob: Oh damn. I totally did not spot that. |
| 01:39.02 | ghostinzshell | missmbob: Thanks a bunch! |
| 01:39.08 | missmbob | ghostinzshell: you're welcome |
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| 01:51.34 | elisax2e2 | ughh, ok well installing intel-microcodes didnt work, nor did blacklisting nouveau and using nvidia prop drivers |
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| 01:58.54 | tomcres | elisax2e2: the only other thing I can think of is perhaps it's a kernel bug. I'd probably next try upgrading to the latest kernel from jessie-backports. Unless someone has a better idea? |
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| 02:01.53 | elisax2e2 | tomcrez, yeah. thats my last option. im thinking about just selling this pita laptop |
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| 02:02.51 | missmbob | elisax2e2: you're using 3.16 jessie kernel on skylake? |
| 02:04.10 | heston | hmm, where is there only cd images that include firmware for jessie and stretch? What about wheezy? |
| 02:04.18 | heston | s/where/why |
| 02:05.16 | missmbob | heston: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/7.11.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.11.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 02:06.19 | heston | missmbob, ah thanks, I didnt notice the archive directory |
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| 02:09.59 | heston | missmbob, any idea why there's a 7.11.0 and a 7.11.0+nonfree directory? Both contain the same isos with the same hash |
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| 02:13.15 | missmbob | heston: i dont know why it's the way it is, no. |
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| 02:15.10 | Vantouras | hello my fellow friend |
| 02:15.35 | Vantouras | i am looking for the wireless driver qualcomm atheros for linux |
| 02:15.38 | Vantouras | please |
| 02:15.45 | Vantouras | can somebody help me |
| 02:16.12 | missmbob | !atheros |
| 02:16.12 | dpkg | Qualcomm Atheros is a developer of semiconductors. For support of PCI/PCIe wireless LAN devices with an Atheros chipset, ask me about <ath9k>, <ath5k>. For USB wireless LAN device support, ask me about <ath9k_htc>, <carl9170>, <ar5523>. For Ethernet driver information, see <atl1c>, <alx>, <atl2>, <atl1e>, <atl1>. For Bluetooth device support, see <ath3k>. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros |
| 02:16.52 | missmbob | Vantouras: do you know which chipset? is the base system installed? |
| 02:16.57 | Weeezy | probably need non-free added to sources list? |
| 02:17.01 | Vantouras | PCI/PCIe |
| 02:17.10 | Vantouras | wireless Lan devices |
| 02:17.18 | heston | Vantouras, your easiest best is to just add non-free to your sources and apt-get update |
| 02:17.23 | heston | bet* |
| 02:17.51 | Vantouras | whenever i do lspci | grep -i network |
| 02:17.55 | Vantouras | its shows nothing |
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| 02:18.15 | Vantouras | hold on , how can i add non-free |
| 02:18.36 | missmbob | Vantouras: lspci -nn |grep -i network |
| 02:18.46 | missmbob | Vantouras: pastebin that entire output |
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| 02:19.37 | Vantouras | ok i did it ,and nothing shows up |
| 02:19.47 | Vantouras | it is not ok i think |
| 02:20.28 | missmbob | take out the |grep to see what it's telling you |
| 02:20.37 | heston | Vantouras, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add non-free to the end of each deb line |
| 02:20.46 | Vantouras | whenever i do airmon-ng , i have a simulator 802.11 software |
| 02:20.58 | missmbob | Vantouras: you're not using debian, are you? |
| 02:21.09 | Vantouras | i am using debian |
| 02:21.11 | heston | though arent most atheros drivers free? |
| 02:21.12 | Vantouras | my friend |
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| 02:21.56 | awal1 | Vantouras, what says lsb_release -a ? |
| 02:22.25 | bazhang | Vantouras, is Kali Debian? |
| 02:22.36 | habs | Hi, I'm trying to enable 3D acceleration on my Thinkpad X200, but when I run glxinfo -i I get this "X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)". What can I do to debug / fix this? |
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| 02:26.17 | zykotick9 | habs: same system, same error. note "glxinfo" output seems fine. i think 3d is working ok on this system. |
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| 02:26.40 | heston | looks like an even split for non-free atheros firmware |
| 02:27.06 | Vantouras | yes |
| 02:27.19 | Vantouras | lspci is not showing my atheros |
| 02:27.26 | heston | so like I said, just enable non-free and it will likely find it |
| 02:27.26 | Vantouras | wireless card |
| 02:27.28 | missmbob | Vantouras: yes to what? yes to you're using kali? |
| 02:27.36 | Vantouras | no it didnt |
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| 02:27.50 | Vantouras | i added non free to all deb links |
| 02:27.57 | missmbob | getting any information out of you is impossible. i quit |
| 02:28.08 | awal1 | :D |
| 02:28.15 | Vantouras | missmbob ? |
| 02:28.34 | Vantouras | i dont get it ? how can you be so certain i am using kali |
| 02:28.59 | missmbob | we know your kind |
| 02:29.10 | Vantouras | hahaha |
| 02:29.15 | awal1 | dpkg: kali |
| 02:29.16 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 02:29.31 | Vantouras | there you go |
| 02:29.40 | Vantouras | thats what i am avoiding |
| 02:29.42 | missmbob | no. there *you* go |
| 02:29.54 | Vantouras | thank you missmbob |
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| 02:30.18 | awal1 | Vantouras, but you may get support from someone in private; just be "honest" |
| 02:30.22 | Vantouras | kali linux is base on debian |
| 02:30.34 | missmbob | !based on debian |
| 02:30.35 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 02:30.51 | Vantouras | what the heck , i can switch right now to debian |
| 02:31.00 | Vantouras | and it will be the same issue |
| 02:31.17 | Vantouras | i know because i have tryed it |
| 02:31.28 | bazhang | #kali-linux Vantouras |
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| 02:31.29 | missmbob | Vantouras: "lying" is an issue because, for instance, debian recently split up which packages have which firmware. did kali? we dont know |
| 02:31.38 | Vantouras | but My IRC is install in my kali linux |
| 02:31.40 | missmbob | because we're not using kali. we dont know. |
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| 02:32.01 | heston | Vantouras, did you even run apt-get update |
| 02:32.11 | Vantouras | i do all the time |
| 02:32.29 | Vantouras | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 02:33.10 | Vantouras | this is so annoying !!! we need One OS for everybody so that we can have common ground |
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| 02:33.30 | heston | well, like missmbob says. Kali probably doesnt care about non-free driver segregation and it may not even be in that repo |
| 02:33.44 | Vantouras | ohh ok |
| 02:33.53 | n1b | Do you need to have GTX installed for software to work properly? |
| 02:34.00 | n1b | gtk* |
| 02:34.04 | Vantouras | hold on , is ubuntu debian ? |
| 02:34.08 | missmbob | jesus no |
| 02:34.30 | Vantouras | so only debian linux |
| 02:34.37 | missmbob | only debian is debian |
| 02:34.56 | missmbob | ubuntu is "based on debian" like kali is. though both are awful in their own ways |
| 02:35.02 | Vantouras | because when i start kali linux , it tells me debian linux |
| 02:35.05 | Vantouras | you know |
| 02:35.22 | heston | I wonder if that's even legal |
| 02:35.25 | Vantouras | awful , man you are full of it |
| 02:35.39 | awal1 | n1b, that depends on if the software is gtk toolkit based |
| 02:35.54 | missmbob | i'm full of it? seriously? |
| 02:36.10 | Vantouras | dont mind me |
| 02:36.21 | Vantouras | i was looking for a solution all day |
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| 02:36.37 | bazhang | Vantouras, mr robot does not have debian |
| 02:36.40 | Vantouras | and you guys are racist because i am using kali |
| 02:36.44 | missmbob | and we're telling you to ask people who use what you're using |
| 02:36.46 | bazhang | that's Kali |
| 02:36.50 | Vantouras | debian* |
| 02:37.17 | n1b | Does all the software made by Gnome use gtk? |
| 02:37.24 | tomcres | n1b: yes |
| 02:37.27 | bazhang | Vantouras, kali has their own channel |
| 02:37.41 | Vantouras | those guys are broke and lazy |
| 02:37.50 | Vantouras | they dont answer lol |
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| 02:38.04 | tomcres | !based on debian |
| 02:38.04 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 02:39.53 | awal1 | Vantouras, this http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html is a good article ... |
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| 02:41.16 | Vantouras | let me check |
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| 02:42.23 | Vantouras | lol this is to start hacking my friend |
| 02:42.31 | Vantouras | i am not a hacker |
| 02:42.45 | Vantouras | i am a white hat dude |
| 02:42.54 | bazhang | Vantouras, you are not even in the kali channel to ask |
| 02:43.00 | heston | then why are you trolling #debian |
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| 02:43.59 | Vantouras | because those dude they dont answer |
| 02:44.00 | Atm0spher1c | Vantouras: not a very good one :P |
| 02:44.45 | Vantouras | Atm0spher1c : i can hack the shit out of your laptop if you have a good conection my friend |
| 02:44.48 | Vantouras | watch |
| 02:44.57 | Atm0spher1c | do you know how to use debian/linux? do you know how to search for and install packages? should be easy |
| 02:45.00 | tomcres | Vantouras: you're not going to get any answers here either |
| 02:45.38 | Vantouras | apt-get install <package > |
| 02:45.39 | Atm0spher1c | I know you're trying to dive right in, but at least learn more of the basics first |
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| 02:46.04 | Vantouras | dude i know these things , word |
| 02:46.10 | Vantouras | this something else |
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| 02:46.38 | Vantouras | there is something very wrong and i cant get my hand on it |
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| 02:47.19 | Vantouras | i know how to use debian/linux too |
| 02:47.34 | Vantouras | its freaking no rocket science |
| 02:47.51 | Atm0spher1c | then install the right package |
| 02:47.51 | Vantouras | yo coming back , going out to buy beers |
| 02:47.58 | Vantouras | i swear i did |
| 02:48.10 | Vantouras | compat-wireless |
| 02:48.12 | Vantouras | 2010 |
| 02:48.23 | Vantouras | and then i do make unload |
| 02:48.27 | Vantouras | make load |
| 02:48.55 | Vantouras | and then something shows up , but its a simulator not my wireless card |
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| 02:54.55 | Weeezy | idk still sounds like it can't find drivers. |
| 02:55.43 | missmbob | sounds like an idiot that cant pull his head out of his own ass |
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| 02:58.06 | Atm0spher1c | I might have answered but seems frowned upon. Simple search and install, that's all. Although, he's not doing anything important anyway :) |
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| 05:21.15 | armando | Is it considered bad practice to install a package from sid in stretch? I'm reading the dont' break debian page and it's talking about how mising packages from debian stable and other debian repos is a bad idea... I understand that stretch isn't currently stable but when it becomes stable I was considering sticking wit it. Would this be considered a franken debian machine? |
| 05:21.57 | dvs | armando, not at this time |
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| 05:23.08 | armando | dvs: is that to say when stretch gets promoted to stable at that point I would need to jump to testing to not be in frankendebian status? |
| 05:24.29 | dvs | armando, sid and testing are close at this time because testing will become stable soon and all the fixes are going from sid to testing. |
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| 05:30.03 | armando | dvs, I see so if sid and testing were farther apart it would be considered a bad idea. If I am interested in retaining my firefox version without too much of a headache of having a divergant system, so far I have only done this with a handful of pacakges |
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| 05:30.49 | dvs | armando, what version of firefox? |
| 05:30.56 | Rusty1_ | armando: check out apt pinning |
| 05:32.00 | armando | Rusty1_: yeah I''m already leveraging apt pinning to accomplish this my question was more about the repercusions of that over time |
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| 05:33.18 | armando | dvs. I installed firefox 50 to try to get the mutithreaded stuff working |
| 05:33.42 | dvs | !mdn |
| 05:33.42 | dpkg | For stable releases, newer versions of Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at http://mozilla.debian.net/ ; you will want the "release" repository. For users of testing and unstable, updated packages are normally in <experimental>; only Extended Support Release (ESR) versions are suitable for release in <stable> so only those versions can be uploaded to unstable. |
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| 05:36.59 | armando | Oh that's a fantastic option |
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| 05:41.05 | armando | hmm so after pinning unstable repo I was able to install the firefox 50 package with apt-get install firefox/unstable |
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| 05:41.40 | armando | How can I downgrade back to the testing package so I can then replace it with the release repo |
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| 05:41.55 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 05:41.55 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 05:42.00 | armando | I tried doing an apt-get purge firefox && apt-get install firefox but it just installes the same copy |
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| 05:43.28 | armando | ah I see |
| 05:43.39 | armando | looks like I had both versions installed I guess |
| 05:43.57 | dvs | no, you have unstable now |
| 05:47.38 | armando | Oh ok I see |
| 05:48.46 | armando | So looking at the directions on mozilla.debian.net it seems I can install it using 'apt-get install -t unstable firefox' that looks pretty similar to the command I used to install from the pinned unstable repo. What causes apt to prefer this unstable repo over my pinned one that is also labeled as unstable |
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| 06:04.24 | SanchoPensa | Morning... |
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| 06:05.14 | LipstickLesbian | "I'm just glad I don't live in a country where I will not be thrown in jail for questioning this hoax." |
| 06:05.35 | LipstickLesbian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp7tVZuXKM |
| 06:05.36 | SanchoPensa | which one? |
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| 06:06.15 | noobular | Hello! |
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| 06:06.23 | SanchoPensa | what alternatives are there to gufw? i need an iptables frontend, but gufw always crashes with segemntation faults... |
| 06:06.45 | noobular | After an unspecified time my internet connection is lost, and when I try to reconnect I get the following error: |
| 06:06.55 | noobular | (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/16' failed in libnm-glib. |
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| 06:08.14 | noobular | And when I lose my internet connection, it only comes back after I restart the computer |
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| 06:12.16 | noobular | hmm, maybe now that I've uninstalled wicd and it's depends it might be okay, not sure yet |
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| 06:16.39 | awal1 | SanchoPensa, gufw is a front-end for ufw, which in turn is a front-end for iptables |
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| 06:55.33 | Nick-chx | does anyone know of which os is this web browser? https://s23.postimg.org/9l7lro1az/www.jpg |
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| 07:01.55 | Nick-hxc | + does anyone know of which os is this web browser ? https://s23.postimg.org/9l7lro1az/www.jpg + |
| 07:01.58 | Nick-hxc | hello |
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| 07:05.03 | noobular | Hi again |
| 07:05.09 | noobular | same problem as before |
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| 07:06.01 | noobular | After an indeterminate amount of time my internet disconnects, and when I try to reconnect I get the following error: (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/16' failed in libnm-glib. |
| 07:06.14 | noobular | the 16 is often a diff number though |
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| 07:11.25 | noobular | any ideas? |
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| 07:16.11 | noobular | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438003 seems to be the same thing as this except I'm on Jessie and MATE not Ubuntu and GNOME |
