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| 00:02.41 | christor | Please I need help to configure the WIfi on my linux with WPA authentification. I need the procedure because I already tried but without success |
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| 00:03.58 | unfo | christor: it will help if you tell the channel what you tried doing already. :) |
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| 00:05.11 | pink1 | !tell pink1 about esm |
| 00:06.06 | unfo | pink1: if you use pure unstable, we will not support you. Esm I suppose is ok. |
| 00:06.25 | unfo | But, can I ask: why do you want esm? |
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| 00:07.16 | christor | unfo: I downloaded the madwifi drivers (tar.gz ) and I try the make and it failed. Makefile.inc:95: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop. Have I to recompil my kernel? |
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| 00:07.43 | abrotman | !madwifi install |
| 00:07.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, madwifi-install is to install madwifi on sarge: add "deb http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public sarge madwifi" to /etc/apt/sources.list, in etch or sid, ask me about <non-free>, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant madwifi-source kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" then: "m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. |
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| 00:09.10 | pink1 | unfo: I needed one package from sid |
| 00:09.14 | pink1 | It has dosbox |
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| 00:09.41 | pink1 | I run Etch, but I needed dosbox so I set up the ability to do "apt-get -t unstable dosbox" |
| 00:09.51 | pink1 | except add the "install" command |
| 00:10.39 | unfo | hmm, dosbox is out-of-date on mips, and dosbox (source, i386, alpha, hppa, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, amd64, arm, m68k, s390, sparc) have 1 bug. |
| 00:10.46 | christor | deuce868: I have again the kernel by default , I have 1 error doing apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) : kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386: Depends: kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:11.01 | christor | Have I to isntall the good kernel? |
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| 00:12.11 | pink1 | unfo: I know, I checked... dosbox has been absent from testing for quite some time now |
| 00:12.15 | Timtow | in the postfix main.cf, can I add as many @ on this line as I want: mydestination = |
| 00:12.27 | raf256`_ | I wrote a closed source commercial program, how to distrbiute it for debian (the bought CD will contain a .deb right?) ? |
| 00:12.31 | pink1 | Not even an old version trying to be updated... there simply is no dosbox package in testing. |
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| 00:12.41 | unfo | pink1: but if http://bugs.debian.org/356311: dosbox: Shifted symbols broken applies to you, you're out of luck though, |
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| 00:12.49 | raf256`_ | how to do it so that buyer can use the program (now, or in half yar when all the libs changed) |
| 00:12.56 | pink1 | unfo: ARRGGHH it does! |
| 00:13.03 | raf256`_ | brb. |
| 00:13.09 | pink1 | I can't type a friggin colon to change to the C: drive! |
| 00:13.15 | pink1 | =[ |
| 00:13.58 | unfo | pink1: IIRC dosbox is unmaintained. you'll want to use 0.63-2 from stable instead of 0.63-2.2 from unstable if you have the shift problem. |
| 00:14.17 | pink1 | Okay, umm, so should I add a sarge line into my sources.list |
| 00:14.19 | beginer | i have command line sarge debian. what i need to install o make debian looks like windows? |
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| 00:14.28 | pink1 | And "apt-get -t sarge install dosbox" |
| 00:14.35 | abrotman | beginer: do you prefer kde or gnome or something else ? |
| 00:14.40 | unfo | pink1: i suppose so. |
| 00:14.47 | orchid | probably kde? |
| 00:14.49 | raf256` | lol |
| 00:14.50 | abrotman | ewww |
| 00:14.53 | raf256` | who said about the colon i n dosbox? |
| 00:14.55 | raf256` | I had sam error, it is frustrating! |
| 00:14.55 | unfo | kde is more common. |
| 00:14.57 | raf256` | how to fix it? |
| 00:14.58 | abrotman | no it's not! |
| 00:15.02 | beardy | abrotman: kde is more like windows |
| 00:15.05 | abrotman | kde is for people who never should have left windows |
| 00:15.07 | unfo | raf256`: use the older dosbox from stable. |
| 00:15.10 | beginer | kde, gtk...don't matter |
| 00:15.12 | beardy | abrotman: that too |
| 00:15.14 | pink1 | raf256`: You need to get the dosbox package from sarge, not the one in sid |
| 00:15.23 | abrotman | beginer: well .. it's easier for me to give you the command if you pick one |
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| 00:15.36 | beginer | kde |
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| 00:15.45 | abrotman | beginer: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system-core |
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| 00:16.05 | unfo | beginer: you must be the root user when you type that of course. :) |
| 00:16.12 | Zweideutig | What if I want to run NetBSD atop Debian Linux? |
| 00:16.22 | unfo | Zweideutig: are you trolling? :) |
| 00:16.31 | raf256` | it wound seem thate debian devel of DosBox didnt do a very good job? |
| 00:16.37 | Zweideutig | unfo: Nein. |
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| 00:16.49 | raf256` | didn they at ALL tested the package they made? like spend a minute to run ti? |
| 00:16.50 | unfo | raf256`: no. unstable often contains bugs. you should not use it. |
| 00:16.51 | abrotman | Zweideutig: bochs could do it i think |
| 00:16.53 | beginer | ok... now i install kde... |
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| 00:17.20 | raf256` | unfo: stable have too old software - it have bugs that are fixed.. in unstdable =) |
| 00:17.23 | pink1 | raf256`: This package was in unstable remember. |
| 00:17.25 | Zweideutig | abrotman: CPU emulation is prohibitively slow on a 1.8 GHz CPU. |
| 00:17.28 | beardy | abrotman: (though, I tried kde first, I have to admit) |
| 00:17.40 | pink1 | raf256`: Well I find testing to be a nice compromise between the two. |
| 00:18.00 | raf256` | pink1: some apps I use where broken in teseting but worked in unstable, or where not in testing at all |
| 00:18.06 | pink1 | raf256`: But when you pluck packages from unstable you're sort of asking for it... the packages are in unstable for a reason. |
| 00:18.06 | abrotman | Zweideutig: you didn't mention any other criteria .. i gave you an answer |
| 00:18.11 | unfo | Zweideutig: virtualization is fine. can Xen do BSD? I know VMware VMServer(tm) (free beta) can. So can qemu+kqemu. |
| 00:18.13 | abrotman | beardy: weenie! |
| 00:18.43 | Zweideutig | Hmm. |
| 00:18.50 | raf256` | pink1: I use unstable, because.. it is (more)stable for some packages. oh the irony |
| 00:18.56 | beginer | Configuring cvs: Should the CVS pserver be enabled? (Y/N) |
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| 00:19.05 | Zweideutig | raf256`: Every tried backports? |
| 00:19.10 | unfo | beginer: no. |
| 00:19.15 | raf256` | Zweideutig: not really, how that works? |
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| 00:19.29 | Zweideutig | raf256`: http://www.backports.org |
| 00:19.46 | unfo | beginer: what did you type in? I am surprised CVS is being installed. |
| 00:19.53 | beardy | abrotman: once I got X working, after a very long time using and learning bash, since I had to figure out that I needed the nvidia driver, and where to get and compile it, and the kernel, I didn't know/figure out I could try the vesa driver instead of nv, heh, weenie, not really. |
| 00:20.04 | Zweideutig | Backports can be useful (I run Sarge~) |
| 00:20.19 | beginer | unfo: apt-get install kde :) |
| 00:20.22 | phaedrus44 | ahhhh |
| 00:20.32 | raf256` | Zweideutig: are they easy to use? just addin to sources.list? |
| 00:20.33 | abrotman | beginer: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system-core |
| 00:20.46 | Zweideutig | raf256`: Yes. Very easy. |
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| 00:21.00 | raf256` | how to sell my linux program in easy to install on linux form? |
| 00:21.05 | phaedrus44 | i keep setting permissions for users to use /mnt/ipod but when whenever I do ls -l /mnt/ipod it only says root:root |
| 00:21.13 | pink1 | Where are the .deb packages downloaded by apt-get before they are unpacked and installed? |
| 00:21.15 | abrotman | raf256`: open source |
| 00:21.16 | beginer | first i install kde... then x-window-sestem-core |
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| 00:21.29 | abrotman | pink1: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 00:21.33 | abrotman | beginer: do them all at once |
| 00:21.33 | raf256` | abrotman: wha about the closed source ones |
| 00:21.37 | raf256` | *what |
| 00:21.41 | abrotman | raf256`: who would want that? |
| 00:21.47 | pink1 | abrotman: Thanks! |
| 00:21.49 | streuner | haha |
| 00:21.51 | beginer | uhhh... |
| 00:21.53 | pink1 | Haha seriously |
| 00:21.54 | raf256` | abrotman: 95% companies in the world? |
| 00:21.56 | streuner | abrotman: very true |
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| 00:22.08 | Zweideutig | raf256`: Sell it in binary form to piss off users of non mainstream distributions/compile happy users/non-Linux users. ;) |
| 00:22.09 | beardy | raf256`: Go troll in #redhat instead. |
| 00:22.18 | abrotman | raf256`: really .. what does your totally awesome program do? |
| 00:22.18 | pink1 | Hahahahaha |
| 00:22.26 | haggis | when i shut my computer down just before it shuts off i hear 3 beeps, what does this mean and how can i disable it? |
| 00:22.26 | raf256` | beardy: what the fuck? I was asking seriously |
| 00:22.44 | Zweideutig | raf256` ist ernst |
| 00:22.44 | raf256` | abrotman: it is not awesome, but people buy it |
| 00:22.50 | irina | hey guys - I run Etch in a i386 - I have two problems: 1) in KDE 3.5 the Debian Menu does not show the installed programs (science) ---- 2) The Gnome suddenly does not show any menu bar - |
| 00:22.53 | pink1 | Closed-source it cool! No, really. |
| 00:22.53 | abrotman | raf256`: how many have you sold ? |
| 00:23.02 | abrotman | irina: install menu-xdg |
| 00:23.05 | raf256` | but indeed, fuck it. I will tell linux users to go buy windows instead. |
| 00:23.23 | Zweideutig | raf256`: That is what I tell them. |
| 00:23.29 | raf256` | abrotman: I am devel, I am payed to make the prorgam actually, not per-sold-copy. the linux version was my idea |
| 00:23.37 | unfo | pink1: and they're kept there until you run apt-get clean. "When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space." --the manpage |
| 00:23.56 | abrotman | raf256`: oh .. ok .. well .. i guess it depends on your client's needs .. RPM and .deb should suffice |
| 00:24.08 | raf256` | Zweideutig: that way linux will never be really popular and other comapnies will ignore us. like macromedia flash 8 for instance and so on |
| 00:24.13 | Zweideutig | I only use Linux because nothing else works with my laptop. |
| 00:24.14 | raf256` | and 99% game making companies |
| 00:24.33 | abrotman | raf256`: of course .. if you had paid attention .. you'd know why there is no flash8 |
| 00:24.41 | unfo | Gnash (GNU Flash clone) is coming along nicely. |
| 00:24.51 | raf256` | abrotman: payed attention to whom/when? |
| 00:24.53 | abrotman | unfo: it's still in NEW |
| 00:25.00 | Zweideutig | raf256`: Windows isn't a bad product you know. |
| 00:25.00 | zinx | gnash sucks |
| 00:25.01 | unfo | abrotman: why? |
| 00:25.02 | abrotman | raf256`: oh come on .. |
| 00:25.03 | raf256` | unfo: any idea when it will correctly play all flash8 in firefox? |
| 00:25.14 | abrotman | unfo: NFC .. i'm not an ftp-master .. nor the maintainer |
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| 00:25.32 | unfo | raf256`: dunno. ask in #gnash. but have you ever tried it? :) |
| 00:25.41 | Zweideutig | I would run Windows 2000 on my laptop if it didn't hang sometimes going into suspend to ram/resuming. :\ |
| 00:25.43 | beardy | !mhallsmite Zweideutig |
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| 00:25.51 | abrotman | gone |
| 00:25.55 | streuner | haha |
| 00:26.01 | beardy | I know, but the ones that knows, knows. |
| 00:26.02 | stoned | !seen mhall |
| 00:26.03 | dpkg | mhall <i=mhall@unaffiliated/mhall> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 4d 2h 3m 52s ago, saying: 'apt foobar baz'. |
| 00:26.10 | haggis | when i shut my computer down just before it shuts off i hear 3 beeps, what does this mean and how can i disable it? |
| 00:26.11 | pink1 | unfo: Ugh, wtf I'm havig the shift problem with stable's dosbox too! |
| 00:26.18 | raf256` | abrotman: yeah, therefore my question was: how to make a .deb from a program 1. closed source (binary) 2. uses own versions of libs (like wxwidgets, openssl) - I will provide them as .so and make startup script set LD_PATH 3. what about changes in underlying libs, libc Xlibs etc? 4. then I just make a install script and put a .deb? |
| 00:26.29 | raf256` | unfo: it is in repo? |
| 00:26.38 | unfo | pink1: see the URL I pointed you too. IIRC it suggests a workaround. |
| 00:26.47 | raf256` | unfo: I dont see gnash pack even in unstable |
| 00:26.49 | irina | abrotman: thanks - menu-xdg was installed. But about no menus in Gnome - I can see the desktop content but nothing else |
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| 00:27.04 | unfo | pink1: are you *positive* you are running old dosbox? try: dosbox --version of course. |
| 00:27.16 | abrotman | irina: is gnome-panel started? |
| 00:27.22 | abrotman | !tell raf256` about mg |
| 00:27.29 | unfo | raf256`: it is in NEW. all, is there any way to download a package that's still in the ftpmaster upload queue? |
| 00:27.55 | abrotman | raf256`: you might want to build statically . isntead of mucking up your user's systems with foreign libs |
| 00:27.59 | unfo | irina: abrotman was gone before. :) |
| 00:28.01 | raf256` | unfo: um.. that will sound stupid but what is "NEW"? |
| 00:28.12 | unfo | !new |
| 00:28.13 | dpkg | from memory, new is the NEW queue for Debian packages, part of the incoming system, at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
| 00:28.20 | abrotman | unfo: huh ? |
| 00:28.25 | irina | abrotman: gnome-panel yes |
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| 00:28.30 | streuner | raf256`: have you ever heard of open/free source? |
| 00:28.32 | abrotman | irina: is it starteD? |
| 00:28.36 | abrotman | !foss |
| 00:28.36 | dpkg | i guess foss is Free and Open Source Software |
| 00:28.37 | beginer | i just finish to install kde... how i start it? |
| 00:28.41 | raf256` | abrotman: ok I will read that. And the libs problem? can I probide higher-level libs myself as .so (I dont care about .deb size) ? and what underlying libs (lover level) change? |
| 00:28.46 | unfo | abrotman: if something is not uploaded yet, is there still a way do download it? :) |
| 00:28.47 | abrotman | beginer: did you install x-window-system-core and kdm ? |
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| 00:28.57 | abrotman | unfo: it is uploaded |
| 00:28.58 | stoned | hehe, lover level |
| 00:29.03 | raf256` | streuner: of course. But you know using it would make most comapnies go broke"? |
| 00:29.11 | beginer | no... just a second... i will install now |
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| 00:29.23 | streuner | raf256`: well, freenode and debian always supported open/free source, so why do you think we change our politics? |
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| 00:29.24 | pink1 | Okay so let's say a .deb from testing is sitting in my package cache, but I want the one from stable. An "apt-get -t stable install foo" hits the package cache first and installs the testing one, so how do I force it to use the stable one? |
| 00:29.27 | BerpKof | alquien tiene algun manual sobre OpenBSD |
| 00:29.27 | abrotman | beginer: do them both at the same time .. `apt-get install kdm x-window-system-core` |
| 00:29.29 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:29.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:29.36 | irina | abrotman: now I am in KDE, when I log in Gnome I see only the Desktop (my computer etc) no menus |
| 00:29.36 | abrotman | and #openbsd too |
| 00:29.47 | raf256` | stoned: like, I use compiled myself versions of wxwidgets and openssl, but I use debian own X11 glib libc and so on |
| 00:29.47 | abrotman | irina: try starting xterm .. then run gnome-paen |
| 00:29.49 | abrotman | irina: try starting xterm .. then run gnome-panel |
| 00:29.50 | unfo | abrotman: "apt-cache search gnash | wc -l" returns 0 on etch. |
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| 00:29.59 | blondie | why did debian die on me :( |
| 00:30.04 | abrotman | unfo: no shit .. it's still in NEW on ftp-master |
| 00:30.12 | blondie | probably a hardware crash x.x |
| 00:30.12 | streuner | raf256`: there is *NO* package in debian which is closed source |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | blondie: you went to #gentoo again ? |
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| 00:30.17 | raf256` | streuner: huh"? |
| 00:30.19 | stoned | hehe, its all good, I was just laughing at the 'lover' level |
| 00:30.20 | stoned | :) |
| 00:30.33 | blondie | abrotman: nope... bunch of weirdos in there ;) |
| 00:30.34 | streuner | raf256`: well, what package? |
| 00:30.43 | beginer | abrotman: i do that... i don't know i can install more with one apt command... |
| 00:30.44 | raf256` | streuner: I do not want to make tha package to be in Debian (as in debian distro), but to allo debian users to use it |
| 00:30.51 | beginer | is installing now |
| 00:30.51 | unfo | abrotman: is there a workaround to download packages that are in NEW? e.g. is it impolite to email gnash@packages.debian.org and ask for a URL? |
| 00:31.05 | abrotman | unfo: ask the ftp-master |
| 00:31.08 | raf256` | stoned: erm... _lower_ level =) |
| 00:31.15 | abrotman | unfo: i don't know of one |
| 00:31.15 | azeem | abrotman: please don't advocate that |
| 00:31.18 | stoned | i know, but lover sounds cooler |
| 00:31.25 | abrotman | azeem: asking the ftp-master or pulling from NEW? |
| 00:31.27 | streuner | raf256`: in order to use it, it should be on the mirrors, but closed source will never be there |
| 00:31.29 | raf256` | heh ;) |
| 00:31.33 | abrotman | or both? |
| 00:31.38 | azeem | aksing |
| 00:31.43 | azeem | you can't pull from NEW anyway :) |
| 00:31.43 | beardy | or making proprietary .debs? |
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| 00:31.46 | kitty_ | hi |
| 00:31.54 | raf256` | streuner: no, user will buy a cd then do dpkg -i /mnt/cdrom/z0mg_cool_program.deb |
| 00:31.54 | azeem | unfo: you could politely ask the maintainer |
| 00:31.55 | kitty_ | how do i get my wacom tablet to work? |
| 00:31.57 | blondie | meow |
| 00:32.01 | abrotman | azeem: well .. i was waiting for him to ask who the ftp-masters were :) |
| 00:32.23 | unfo | blondie: if you keep making animal sounds, eventually you are likely to get kicked. |
| 00:32.25 | azeem | abrotman: the issues involved are not transparent to everybody |
| 00:32.35 | unfo | !wacom |
| 00:32.35 | dpkg | well, wacom is 'man 4 wacom'; or /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Wacom-USB-mini-HOWTO.html; They are graphics tablets :), or for debian specific help check out http://www.i3s.unice.fr/~ol/success.html |
| 00:32.46 | streuner | raf256`: i know only companies which provide binaries on there servers. |
| 00:32.52 | _ericb | anyone knows an application that eject a device and wait for the device to be "closed" again to terminate ? a bit like 'eject' but that waits until let's say the cdrom drive is ready again before terminating |
| 00:32.56 | kitty_ | I mean, do i need to install anything? |
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| 00:32.59 | abrotman | azeem: let's just drag an ftp-master in here .. and make him tell us when he'll put mplayer in sid! :) |
| 00:33.08 | blondie | unfo: you need to stop being So Damn Uptight |
| 00:33.10 | unfo | kitty_: dunno, check the URL. |
| 00:33.12 | raf256` | streuner: and I wanted to be more fridnly and provide a .deb ... but I see noone even cares |
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| 00:33.24 | azeem | 14:10 -!- jvw_ [i=jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 00:33.28 | dvs | hullo |
| 00:33.28 | abrotman | why?! |
| 00:33.31 | unfo | blondie: I just don't see why you are spamming animal sounds. There are much more entertaining spam possibilities. |
| 00:33.36 | abrotman | azeem: he doesn't love us anymore .. |
| 00:33.37 | streuner | raf256`: as i said before, we support open free source |
| 00:33.39 | pink1 | I have package foo installed from testing, but I'd rather use foo from stable instead. "apt-get -t stable install foo" doesn't work because it says it's already the latest version. How do Install the stable one over it? |
| 00:33.42 | azeem | abrotman: yeah! |
| 00:33.43 | abrotman | azeem: i blame you for not voting for him! |
| 00:33.45 | pink1 | Force install, I suppose? |
| 00:33.49 | azeem | abrotman: heh |
| 00:33.51 | blondie | unfo: I'm not spamming |
| 00:33.57 | unfo | pink1: maybe remove then re-add? |
| 00:34.00 | unfo | blondie: no? |
| 00:34.10 | abrotman | azeem: he's been suspiciously absent since the election .. maybe just a coincidence |
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| 00:34.22 | irina | thanks abrotman: I have to logoff to see if gnome works |
| 00:34.26 | azeem | abrotman: he's lost in the mexican wildlife |
| 00:34.31 | raf256` | streuner: I wanted to support debian, not vice versa. like macromedia supports linux by relesting linux flash7, or nvidia makes linux driver |
| 00:34.31 | Dwonis | Where would I find a list of FLOSS-friendly webhosting providers? (especially ones in .AU) |
| 00:34.32 | abrotman | azeem: still ? |
| 00:34.33 | pink1 | unfo: Nnooo, a shitload of packages depend on foo |
| 00:34.37 | beginer | i finish to install kdm and x-window-system-core... how i start it? |
| 00:34.41 | pink1 | So if I removed it, lots of things would break |
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| 00:34.44 | unfo | irina: type: apt-get install screen && screen then type: irssi |
| 00:34.47 | azeem | I think so,y es |
| 00:34.47 | abrotman | beginer: /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 00:34.55 | raf256` | of course it might be even better (open source) but 95% companies can't do that. |
| 00:34.56 | azeem | abrotman: he was in .mx for like 5 weeks |
| 00:34.59 | pink1 | I'd just like to install the stable version over my testing version. How? |
| 00:35.03 | abrotman | azeem: holy crap |
| 00:35.03 | unfo | pink1: what depends on dosbox? |
| 00:35.14 | abrotman | azeem: but at least his bowels will be clean! |
| 00:35.18 | pink1 | unfo: Not dosbox. foo = "libsdl1.2debian" |
| 00:35.20 | unfo | pink1: there are many force options listed in the manpage. I don't know if they are safe or not, they probably are. |
| 00:35.46 | raf256` | how to install the stable version of dosbox, with not fucked up keyboard? on my debian testing box. |
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| 00:36.02 | pink1 | raf256`: I'm working on that right now |
| 00:36.05 | ben_h | hi all |
| 00:36.06 | streuner | raf256`: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx |
| 00:36.26 | kitty_ | ok, how do i change my repositories to the freshest available? |
| 00:36.30 | beginer | Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running |
| 00:36.33 | abrotman | nope .. not telling |
| 00:36.38 | ben_h | this may be a silly question, but I can't find an answer.. i'm looking for a way to print the ACL of a file |
| 00:36.42 | abrotman | kitty_: if you have to ask .. you shouldn't use it |
| 00:36.54 | raf256` | pink1: if you would be so kind and email the solution to freenode-ticket@raf256.org as I will be away it would be nice |
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| 00:37.05 | pink1 | 0_o |
| 00:37.06 | streuner | raf256`: maybe you see on that example the difference |
| 00:37.08 | kitty_ | look... i haven't used debian in over a year... just tell me how... |
| 00:37.13 | abrotman | nerp |
| 00:37.17 | unfo | kitty_: why do you want to upgrade to a less-stable version? |
| 00:37.20 | raf256` | streuner: nvidia driver is closed (binary) but it have a small compilable layer api afair |
| 00:37.23 | raf256` | anyway bbl, cu |
| 00:37.24 | pink1 | raf256`: I'll do that if you release your application under the GPL. |
| 00:37.25 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 00:37.26 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 00:37.28 | unfo | chealer: hi, what does xerwer mean? |
| 00:37.29 | kitty_ | because i like being semi-up-to-date, that's why... |
| 00:37.30 | ben_h | kitty_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:37.36 | abrotman | ben_h: don't |
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| 00:37.38 | streuner | raf256`: there is the source |
| 00:37.43 | ben_h | abrotman: why not? |
| 00:37.52 | kitty_ | what do i add to the list? |
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| 00:37.53 | abrotman | ben_h: if you can't figure it out .. you shouldn't be using it .. |
| 00:37.54 | raf256` | pink1: I am hoping to release one of apps (the one I own all rigts to) in LGPL even |
| 00:37.58 | beginer | I try to start KDM but i recive -> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running |
| 00:38.02 | unfo | ben_h: because then we will not support kitty_. |
| 00:38.10 | raf256` | pink1: anywya something debian compilable |
| 00:38.18 | unfo | beginer: /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 00:38.29 | abrotman | ben_h: if you're not going to be here when kitty_'s stuff breaks .. don't tell .. |
| 00:38.35 | kitty_ | look |
| 00:38.40 | kitty_ | i've used it before |
| 00:38.44 | kitty_ | it's fine... really |
| 00:38.47 | abrotman | then you should remember |
| 00:38.48 | raf256` | streuner: no that is just source of the API, the main driver is binary-only isn't it |
| 00:38.51 | abrotman | or know how to ask google |
| 00:38.51 | kitty_ | i at the LEAST need openoffice2 |
| 00:38.58 | ben_h | that's not really a solution |
| 00:38.58 | abrotman | which is in etch |
| 00:39.05 | kitty_ | what? |
| 00:39.06 | unfo | kitty_: you are asking a newbie question, and we do not answer newbie questions about etch. :) |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | exactly |
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| 00:39.28 | kitty_ | etch? |
| 00:39.30 | abrotman | !tell ProphetPX about root |
| 00:39.33 | raf256` | + |
| 00:39.34 | beginer | Starting K Display Manager: kdm. -> and nothing happend |
| 00:39.35 | peterS | unfo: my 'nospambot' script does the reverse of what you say, for irssi - if you join and then quit within a couple of seconds, it doesn't record it. one could reverse the logic easily enough. |
| 00:39.39 | raf256` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.43 | abrotman | beginer: ctrl-alt-f7 |
| 00:39.45 | abrotman | raf256`: stop |
| 00:39.46 | raf256` | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 00:39.49 | raf256` | + |
| 00:39.52 | abrotman | raf256`: STOP |
| 00:40.11 | streuner | raf256`: true, i just realise how evil non-free is. |
| 00:40.22 | beginer | ctrl+alt+f7 > nothing |
| 00:40.41 | unfo | beginer: apt-get install kdm- gdm |
| 00:40.49 | unfo | beginer: there is one space after the hyphen. |
| 00:40.58 | beginer | ok |
| 00:41.17 | abrotman | why would you install gdm if kdm doesn't work .. that's just retarded |
| 00:41.25 | raf256` | damn, sorry, I was touching the keyboard not noticing.. I should not sleep with laptop in bed |
| 00:41.28 | unfo | abrotman: you never know, maybe it will. |
| 00:41.45 | dvs | raf256`: Isn't there a law against that? |
| 00:41.54 | raf256` | dvs: it is over 6 yo |
| 00:41.56 | dvs | machinality? |
| 00:42.00 | raf256` | its like 50 in IT years |
| 00:42.06 | abrotman | unfo: maybe you could have tried LOOKING IN THE LOG FILE |
| 00:42.14 | unfo | abrotman: that is next. |
| 00:42.22 | abrotman | idiot |
| 00:42.41 | unfo | abrotman: beginer is a beginner. it is faster for him to switch to gdm and try that. |
| 00:42.47 | unfo | *them |
| 00:42.55 | abrotman | that's such a stupid damn idea |
| 00:42.58 | streuner | abrotman: better take about kingsley's logs ;-) |
| 00:43.03 | streuner | care* |
| 00:43.05 | chealer | unfo: it means that a friend came here and decided to change my nick. fortunately this time he didn't try getting himself kicked by saying offtopic stuff |
| 00:43.13 | abrotman | streuner: last i checked .. stupid isn |
| 00:43.18 | abrotman | streuner: last i checked .. stupid isn't a curse word :) |
| 00:43.19 | beginer | Configuring gdm: Select the desired defaul display manager (gdm/kdm) |
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| 00:43.41 | unfo | chealer: ah :) my entire ISP was once bad from #ps2dev (Sony PlayStation 2 homebrew software development channel). |
| 00:43.45 | unfo | *banned |
| 00:44.01 | ben_h | beginer: select gdm, that's the one you're installing now |
| 00:44.11 | beginer | ok |
| 00:44.11 | raf256` | unfo: my *coutry* was banned from one channel |
| 00:44.17 | raf256` | the op was a "bit" too hasty imho |
| 00:44.19 | kitty_ | what's a good text-based text editor? |
| 00:44.20 | unfo | raf256`: whoa :) |
| 00:44.24 | abrotman | vi? |
| 00:44.26 | abrotman | emacs? |
| 00:44.32 | aryal | ed |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | i thought you've used linux before ... |
| 00:44.36 | streuner | !start an editor war |
| 00:44.36 | dpkg | xemacs sucks |
| 00:44.37 | unfo | kitty_: start with nano. then move up to vim or emacs later. |
| 00:44.39 | raf256` | vim is nice |
| 00:44.41 | ben_h | kitty_: vi. and don't listen to the nutcases who suggest emacs. |
| 00:44.45 | pink1 | vi |
| 00:44.53 | raf256` | for begginer a nice editor would be a Kate |
| 00:45.04 | ben_h | raf256`: text-based though |
| 00:45.08 | abrotman | raf256`: READ .. |
| 00:45.11 | raf256` | then nano indeed |
| 00:45.16 | abrotman | it's so sunday |
| 00:45.17 | aryal | vi: viral influenza |
| 00:45.19 | kitty_ | nano isn't in apt... |
| 00:45.26 | _ericb | anyone have an idea how I could print an html file from the command line ? |
| 00:45.26 | astronut | ya |
| 00:45.27 | streuner | heh |
| 00:45.27 | unfo | kitty_: nano-tiny |
| 00:45.33 | ben_h | kitty_: it'll already be installed i believe |
| 00:45.47 | unfo | _ericb: lynx -dump file.html | lpr maybe? I dunno, I never print from cmdline. |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | _ericb: do you already have it ? |
| 00:46.01 | ben_h | kitty_: to search for a package, do e.g. 'apt-cache search nano' |
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| 00:46.09 | ben_h | that'll turn up inexact matches |
| 00:46.17 | aryal | _ericb: trying to print the html or the rendering thereof? |
| 00:46.22 | abrotman | --names-only ? |
| 00:46.25 | _ericb | redering |
| 00:46.26 | _ericb | abrotman well unfo proposed something but still unshure |
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| 00:46.46 | raf256` | how to install a DosBOX from stable on a testing box? what to add to lists, how to set testing is default, and how to install [only] dosbox from stable |
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| 00:46.57 | raf256` | from cmd line (usullay I use synaptic) |
| 00:47.01 | abrotman | _ericb: afaict .. his will print the code |
| 00:47.40 | kitty_ | what do i do from within the sources.list to get the newer packages? |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | what do you have now? |
| 00:48.07 | tilrman | lynx -dump spits formatted output; -source spits the html source |
| 00:48.10 | aryal | _ericb: for mostly text type pages, the lynx -dump works quite nicely. also check out html2ps. |
| 00:48.22 | abrotman | tilrman: dumps it as PS ? |
| 00:48.28 | raf256` | erm.. I do not see a dosbox at all in debian testing, wtf? |
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| 00:48.36 | unfo | abrotman: dumps it as text. |
| 00:48.40 | unfo | raf256`: it is not in testing. |
| 00:48.44 | kitty_ | abrotman - was that a question for me? |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | kitty_: yes |
| 00:48.58 | pink1 | raf256`: I'm still working on this. I tried using stable's dosbox package and ran into the same issues. |
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| 00:49.12 | pink1 | I think it might have something to do with libsdl2.1debian |
| 00:49.17 | kitty_ | it's all under stable |
| 00:49.21 | _ericb | lynx -dump just seems to dump the pages after a few try.. ok gonna check html2ps |
| 00:49.22 | unfo | pink1: ask in channel #dosbox maybe. |
| 00:49.22 | pink1 | It's driving me nuts |
| 00:49.25 | raf256` | pink1: what is the exact package name, in testing? |
| 00:49.33 | raf256` | pink1: I will be back tommorow probably cu :) |
| 00:49.37 | pink1 | unfo: Erm, I'm pretty sure this is a Debian package issue |
| 00:49.39 | unfo | raf256`: pink1: Wine can run some dos games. |
| 00:49.46 | raf256` | unfo: indeed |
| 00:49.52 | _ericb | and then print a ps file from command line... cat file.ps |lpr ? |
| 00:49.56 | glbriones | when I ifconfig eth0:0 <IP_ADD>, does this mean eth0 is the physical interface of eth0:0 ? |
| 00:49.56 | unfo | pink1: the shift key issue is IIRC upstream. see the bug report. |
| 00:50.03 | pink1 | raf256`: There is no dosbox package in testing. Only one in stable and unstable. |
| 00:50.21 | abrotman | Mewshi: you can swithc to etch |
| 00:50.25 | stoned | pink testing/unstable arenot that diff, you can backport it yoruself and see if it works |
| 00:50.26 | irina | thanks - abrotman - the menus in Gnome reapeared. I still have the problem of updating the Debian Menu. Through Synaptic I add different Science applications and normally the Debian Menu adds them to a submenu Science. I do not see that happening. Any hint? |
| 00:50.28 | pink1 | unfo: I'm not quite sure what upstream means, but I have the same problem with stable's and unstable's packages. |
| 00:50.29 | Mewshi | etch? |
| 00:50.29 | abrotman | i'm not going to help you move to anything else |
| 00:50.35 | stoned | pink1, ^^ |
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| 00:50.40 | aryal | _ericb: for better rendering of more complex pages, your best bet is to scriptify konqi using dcop |
| 00:50.40 | pink1 | stoned: I use Etch. |
| 00:50.41 | Mewshi | so i should just replace stable with the word etch? |
| 00:50.42 | abrotman | irina: update-menus ? |
| 00:50.46 | abrotman | Mewshi: yes |
| 00:50.54 | abrotman | !tell Mewshi about sarge->etch |
| 00:50.58 | unfo | pink1: IIRC there is a bug in the dosbox source code put out by the www.dosbox.org people. |
| 00:51.02 | stoned | pingouin, yes, testing is not that diff from unstable you can then try simple sid backport |
| 00:51.08 | stoned | god |
| 00:51.09 | abrotman | Mewshi: of course .. probably nothing will work when you're done .. but you said you iknow how to fix it .. so it won't be a problem |
| 00:51.11 | dureyes | can someone tell me how do I mount a mdos formatted floppy on debian? |
| 00:51.13 | stoned | not pingouin but pink1 |
| 00:51.18 | streuner | abrotman: damn, you are pretty fast today! |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | dureyes: mount -t vfat <dev> <mnountpoint> |
| 00:51.29 | stoned | !tell pink1 about simple sid backport |
| 00:51.41 | abrotman | streuner: i'm getting old |
| 00:51.50 | Mewshi | ok, it's at 'etch main' right now... what do i need to do now? |
| 00:51.57 | abrotman | read what dpkg told oyu |
| 00:52.14 | pink1 | stoned: That's not my problem. I'm having issues with dosbox |
| 00:52.19 | stoned | ahh |
| 00:52.29 | stoned | nevermind, I thought you said you couldn' tfind dosbox for etch |
| 00:52.29 | unfo | Mewshi: once again, if you switch to etch, we will not provide you with tech support. If you want more up-to-date packages, learn more about Linux before you switch to etch. |
| 00:52.32 | pink1 | stoned: dosbox isn't in testing, and the unstable one it broken for me |
| 00:52.39 | aryal | _ericb: if you know some scripting, http://linuxgazette.net/issue97/oregan2.html might be of interest for scripting konqueror |
| 00:52.44 | streuner | abrotman: ever saw 'Godfather' and 'Roth'? |
| 00:52.52 | aryal | Rothfather? |
| 00:52.55 | irina | abrotman: update-menus did not work for the Science applications... |
| 00:52.57 | abrotman | i've seen godfather |
| 00:53.04 | abrotman | irina: and menu-xdg is installed ? |
| 00:53.05 | Mewshi | eh heh... look, i'm just trying to finish my damned school project which is WHY i'm trying to get this DONE... |
| 00:53.06 | stoned | good movie |
| 00:53.07 | beginer | how do i reconfig gdm? |
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| 00:53.14 | streuner | remember what 'Roth' said ? |
| 00:53.21 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 00:53.21 | unfo | beginer: is gdm working ok? |
| 00:53.26 | beginer | no |
| 00:53.28 | stoned | beginer, reconfigure to a default conf? |
| 00:53.30 | abrotman | unfo: you lose! |
| 00:53.38 | irina | abrotman: yes menu-xdg is installed |
| 00:53.43 | unfo | beginer: check if X can start. type: startx |
| 00:53.46 | beginer | stoned: yes |
| 00:53.48 | abrotman | irina: afaik .. that's all you should need |
| 00:53.58 | stoned | !tell beginer about confmiss |
| 00:54.05 | unfo | beginer: quit xterm with the "exit" command to stop X. |
| 00:54.17 | stoned | just delete your messed up conf file and use force confmiss and get a default one |
| 00:54.58 | unfo | stoned: the tip you gave AFAIK would not help beginer at all. |
| 00:54.59 | Mewshi | ok, will somebody just tell me what lines i need to put in the sources.list |
| 00:55.04 | unfo | Mewshi: no. |
| 00:55.09 | stoned | unfo, no? |
| 00:55.13 | beginer | i'm still in command line... startx generate errors |
| 00:55.17 | unfo | Mewshi: if you continue repeating, eventually someone may get you kicked. |
| 00:55.24 | streuner | Mewshi: read what the bot told you |
| 00:55.24 | unfo | sorry :) |
| 00:55.27 | stoned | unfo, explain |
| 00:55.48 | unfo | stoned: the problem is likely with X, not with gdm. |
| 00:55.58 | stoned | he wanted a default gdm.con |
| 00:56.03 | Mewshi | what bot? |
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| 00:56.11 | abrotman | !tell Mewshi about sarge->etch |
| 00:56.13 | stoned | I asked him he wanted that so i told him what to do, I duno nothing bout no problems with X |
| 00:56.22 | unfo | !tell Mewshi about upgrade |
| 00:56.24 | stoned | holy hell I am not going nto try and fix this sentence |
| 00:56.27 | streuner | abrotman> !tell Mewshi about sarge->etch |
| 00:56.37 | abrotman | i knew altoona was full of people that couldn't read .. but this is ridiculous :) |
| 00:56.39 | tilrman | Mewshi: if you are at sarge already, you are probably better off asking for help upgrading the specific packages you need instead of the whole box . . . switching to etch will take a long time |
| 00:57.14 | ben_h | !tell ben_h about sarge->etch |
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| 00:57.19 | unfo | stoned: beginer had the wrong idea about how to fix the problem. |
| 00:57.33 | stoned | unfo, I answered what he asked, sorry |
| 00:57.49 | abrotman | unfo: you're hte one who told him to install GDM .. for no reason |
| 00:57.52 | unfo | stoned: no problem |
| 00:58.00 | streuner | Mewshi: dpkg is a bot and abrotman make dpkg the bot to tell you the factoid, it should be a message of it somewhere |
| 00:58.02 | stoned | lol |
| 00:58.12 | unfo | abrotman: i didn't know it'd take beginer so long to install gdm. |
| 00:58.24 | Mewshi | !tell mewshi about testing security |
| 00:58.24 | unfo | it takes me about 10 seconds. |
| 00:58.24 | abrotman | unfo: guess you sohuld have started with logs |
| 00:58.46 | unfo | abrotman: in retrospect, yes. |
| 00:58.47 | stoned | beginer, what is the problem dude |
| 00:58.53 | streuner | Mewshi: /msg dpkg testing security works too |
| 00:58.53 | unfo | beginer: any luck? |
| 00:59.05 | unfo | stoned: I am already dealing with it ATM. |
| 00:59.11 | stoned | word |
| 00:59.15 | unfo | :) |
| 00:59.17 | irina | OK, a simpler question. I have Two HDD: in one I installed Windows and in one Debian Etch. They boot fine .With GParted I have shrinked the Windows HD and create another partition and formated with Fat32. The purpose whas to have this new partition shared between the Two OS. HOwever I cannot mount it in Etch. I got some garbled name... |
| 00:59.23 | abrotman | unfo: dunno .. i thnik you made it worse |
| 00:59.40 | unfo | abrotman: how? |
| 00:59.47 | unfo | gdm is as good as kdm. |
| 00:59.48 | abrotman | because you still haven't read the logs! |
| 01:00.02 | unfo | abrotman: startx provides a brief log to stderr. |
| 01:00.06 | abrotman | stoned: oh .. no .. i agree .. i think unfo is totally messing up beginer's box |
| 01:00.11 | stoned | lol |
| 01:00.12 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:00.19 | beginer | XFree86.0.log > http://www.labor.ro/xlog.txt |
| 01:00.27 | pink1 | Okay yay I fixed the DosBox problem! |
| 01:00.42 | abrotman | beginer: modprobe mousedev .. and try again |
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| 01:00.50 | unfo | pink1: how? |
| 01:00.53 | abrotman | unfo: good thing you installed GDM .. because that was totally worthless |
| 01:01.01 | unfo | abrotman: you said that already. |
| 01:01.01 | pink1 | I needed the libsdl2.1debian and libsdl1.2debian-alsa packages from sarge (I had the etch ones installed) |
| 01:01.02 | stoned | it was an input problem? |
| 01:01.07 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:01.08 | stoned | happened to me like 2 hours ago |
| 01:01.16 | stoned | I upgraded the kernel and mousedev wasn't there |
| 01:01.21 | stoned | thanks to streuner i got it |
| 01:01.22 | stoned | heh |
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| 01:01.25 | pink1 | Yayyy, Dosbox! |
| 01:01.29 | pink1 | happy |
| 01:01.33 | unfo | hmm, beginer is on stable. |
| 01:01.33 | gravity | dosbox is awesome |
| 01:01.59 | beginer | abrotman: yeeeaaahhhh... start... huh |
| 01:02.07 | tilrman | irina: what command were you running to try to mount it, and what was the error message? |
| 01:02.12 | reezeh | nn all |
| 01:02.15 | abrotman | beginer: huh ? |
| 01:02.35 | beginer | mouse not working |
| 01:02.48 | abrotman | beginer: did you `modprobe mousedev` ? |
| 01:02.59 | beginer | yes |
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| 01:03.07 | abrotman | and you /etc/init.d/gdm restart ? |
| 01:03.18 | stoned | add it to /etc/modules too |
| 01:03.24 | abrotman | i wasn't there yet! |
| 01:03.29 | beginer | no... i typed startx |
| 01:03.40 | softwork | hello, i have a problem it my ati in debian. i install ati drivers and in fglrxinfo i have Mesa GLX indirect. if i go to windows and i restart pc and go to linux i have 3d aceleration and in fglxinfo i have ati .... |
| 01:03.41 | stoned | I am running -dpi 128 |
| 01:03.48 | unfo | pink1: if you had carefully read http://bugs.debian.org/356311 you would have seen the workaround: "Also confirming this bug, and that it goes away when I downgrade libsdl1.2debian (and libsdl1.2debian-alsa) to the sarge version. I believe this bug is actually the same as #347709, #358976 and #360872." :) |
| 01:03.52 | softwork | hardware problem? |
| 01:03.54 | stoned | its beautiful, so high a resolution I couldn't see anything |
| 01:04.27 | softwork | hello, i have a problem it my ati in debian. i install ati drivers and in fglrxinfo i have Mesa GLX indirect. if i go to windows and i restart pc and go to linux i have 3d aceleration and in fglxinfo i have ati .... is a hardware problem? or ati drivers bug ? |
| 01:04.34 | stoned | softwork, don't repeat please |
| 01:04.40 | unfo | all: why might the same problem have happened to both beginer and stoned? |
| 01:04.40 | softwork | ok |
| 01:04.41 | abrotman | !ati |
| 01:04.42 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 01:04.51 | stoned | unfo, I wasn't on stable |
| 01:04.56 | softwork | i use fglrx |
| 01:05.00 | irina | tilrman: I use Disks Manager and I get "could not find /tmp/disks-conf-hdb5" |
| 01:05.01 | unfo | stoned: especially then. |
| 01:05.12 | stoned | unfo, sid is unstable yeah? |
| 01:05.14 | unfo | irina: may i ask, what is Disks Manager? |
| 01:05.23 | stoned | heh, I should have checked bts |
| 01:05.32 | unfo | stoned: yes. sid is always the code name for unstable. |
| 01:05.38 | stoned | I wasn't asking :) |
| 01:06.16 | softwork | stoned wrong i have 3d aceleration if i go to windows and restart pc and go to linux |
| 01:06.21 | tilrman | irina: yeah, what unfo said |
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| 01:06.31 | irina | unfo: Yes in Gnome you go to Desktop - Admiinistration- Disks |
| 01:06.32 | beginer | i start KDE (startx)... how do setup my mouse? or i need to start kdm? |
| 01:06.39 | stoned | softwork, huh? |
| 01:06.42 | softwork | how i do? is a hardware incompatability ??? or a ati bug?? |
| 01:06.56 | phaedrus44 | how do i make a directory readable and writeable by all? |
| 01:06.57 | unfo | irina: I do not use Gnome, and I have no clue what the gnome disk administrator even does. |
| 01:07.02 | unfo | phaedrus44: why? :P |
| 01:07.08 | phaedrus44 | /mnt/ipod |
| 01:07.17 | phaedrus44 | i want all the users to be able to use it |
| 01:07.18 | stoned | phaedrus44, if you must, chmod 777 blah/ |
| 01:07.24 | tilrman | irina: i dont use gnome either, but we can try a different approach |
| 01:07.24 | irina | unfo: is similar in KDE |
| 01:07.30 | phaedrus44 | i did chmod 777 /mnt/ipod |
| 01:07.31 | stoned | phaedrus44, 777 == bad idea |
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| 01:07.37 | stoned | but anyway |
| 01:07.40 | unfo | irina: I have no disk manager in KDE. |
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| 01:07.54 | phaedrus44 | but ls -l /mnt/ipod shows root as owner and group root |
| 01:07.54 | irina | I can log off from Gnome and log in KDE |
| 01:08.17 | stoned | phaedrus44, so? let root be owner but set the files to 777, users will be able to write to it |
| 01:08.30 | stoned | phaedrus44, if you want to change grp/own use chgrp and chown |
| 01:08.30 | phaedrus44 | hehe oh |
| 01:08.30 | unfo | irina: I am running kde-core only. There is no disks manager here. If you tell the channel what you are trying to do, perhaps we can help you. |
| 01:08.45 | phaedrus44 | thanks a million |
| 01:08.48 | stoned | word |
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| 01:09.33 | unfo | hmm, irina did a /quit suddenly. thats annoying. |
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| 01:09.50 | abrotman | unfo: irina said what they were doing |
| 01:09.54 | unfo | irina: I am running kde-core only. There is no disks manager here. If you tell the channel what you are trying to do, perhaps we can help you. |
| 01:10.05 | unfo | abrotman: oops. /me checks scrollback |
| 01:10.06 | phaedrus44 | i get a message "not permitted" when i do chgrp users /mnt/ipod |
| 01:10.18 | stoned | phaedrus44, do it as root |
| 01:10.22 | phaedrus44 | i did |
| 01:10.31 | unfo | irina said: "HOwever I cannot mount it in Etch. I got some garbled name..." |
| 01:10.39 | phaedrus44 | im logged in as dsl |
| 01:10.40 | stoned | phaedrus44, is it mounted read only? |
| 01:10.41 | unfo | irina: garbled name? |
| 01:10.46 | phaedrus44 | i did su entered root pass |
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| 01:10.55 | stoned | phaedrus44, you're on damnsmall? hehe |
| 01:10.57 | irina | unfo: I am back in KDE: System / Disks |
| 01:10.59 | unfo | phaedrus44: as dsl? as in D*nSmallLinux? |
| 01:11.09 | abrotman | btw .. beginer's new error log would be in $HOME if he's using startx .. not /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 01:11.22 | unfo | abrotman: hmm, why? |
| 01:11.23 | phaedrus44 | yeah my main partition is debian thoguh 2.4.27 |
| 01:11.34 | abrotman | unfo: he used startx instead of gdm/kdm |
| 01:11.38 | Johnny_5 | well i got another webcam...its a creative...didn't somebody say they have a creative and it works for them.... |
| 01:11.48 | irina | There I can see the Hard Disk and the Partitions (one with Windows and one empty just formated with Fat32) |
| 01:11.49 | unfo | abrotman: what would be the filename? |
| 01:11.50 | beginer | i start gdm now... mouse not working |
| 01:12.04 | Johnny_5 | anyway...i can't seem to get it to work...i get the same error.... |
| 01:12.04 | unfo | beginer: USB or PS/2 mouse? model name? |
| 01:12.07 | abrotman | .xsession-errors or some crap |
| 01:12.08 | stoned | beginer, not work meaning? no pointer? won't move? |
| 01:12.10 | stoned | what |
| 01:12.25 | stoned | beginer, have you selected the proper protocol? |
| 01:12.30 | beginer | won't move |
| 01:12.36 | stoned | protocol problem |
| 01:12.40 | unfo | beginer: what kind of mouse? |
| 01:12.41 | stoned | which kind of mouse is it |
| 01:12.50 | stoned | nm |
| 01:12.50 | beginer | pointer is in the center |
| 01:12.54 | abrotman | at least it's not jumping at you |
| 01:12.55 | beginer | microsoft ps2 |
| 01:13.03 | stoned | use imps2 |
| 01:13.07 | unfo | beginer: do you have a USB mouse around? |
| 01:13.13 | beginer | no... |
| 01:13.22 | unfo | beginer: then talk to stoned. :) |
| 01:13.47 | stoned | beginer, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or xfree86) and select IMPS2 mouse protocol |
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| 01:13.49 | beginer | how do i set to imps? |
| 01:13.49 | unfo | Johnny_5: webcam used for what? |
| 01:13.51 | beginer | ok |
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| 01:14.11 | Johnny_5 | so people i talk to can see me |
| 01:14.18 | usual | does testing/etch include xorg? |
| 01:14.21 | stoned | beginer, or you can change that in input device section in /etc/X11/XF86Config4- or xor..gconf |
| 01:14.22 | stoned | doh |
| 01:14.25 | stoned | screw it |
| 01:14.28 | lunitik | I have a DVD drive on this computer... I want to use it with Kaffeine (or other) ... however it doesn't seem to want to play... I have libdvdcss2 installed (also libdvdnav4, libdvdplay0, and have set up regionset for good measure) |
| 01:14.29 | dvs | usual: yes |
| 01:14.29 | unfo | Johnny_5: are you using a standards-compliant IM service? |
| 01:14.30 | stoned | I need a new keyboard |
| 01:14.34 | Johnny_5 | so my friends can see me since we ain't seen each other in almost a year |
| 01:14.41 | Johnny_5 | gaim |
| 01:14.46 | usual | dvs: are you using testing? |
| 01:14.52 | dvs | yup |
| 01:14.56 | lunitik | Also, /dev/dvd is owned by group 'cdrom' so I don't think its a privs error... |
| 01:15.04 | unfo | usual: yes, but sadly if you use xorg, we cannot support you if you ask newbie questions. |
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| 01:15.05 | lunitik | Anyone know what I might be doing wrong |
| 01:15.14 | lunitik | Google doesn't seem to want to help further :( |
| 01:15.18 | unfo | usual: I mean *testing or unstable |
| 01:15.23 | Johnny_5 | i could care less about being able to take pics although that would be nice |
| 01:15.36 | usual | unfo: I am using sid at the moment |
| 01:15.53 | lunitik | Anyone here have DVD playback set up? |
| 01:16.03 | CHodapp | Yes. |
| 01:16.06 | CHodapp | But I can't tell you much. |
| 01:16.13 | unfo | Johnny_5: MSN, AIM, and Skype are all closed protocols. Trade secrets. So webcam support is not perfect. |
| 01:16.17 | unfo | !dvd |
| 01:16.17 | dpkg | well, dvd is use xine (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss, or ask me about libdvdcss |
| 01:16.19 | lunitik | CHodapp: you just installed libdvdcss2? |
| 01:16.42 | CHodapp | !libdvdcss |
| 01:16.42 | dpkg | i guess libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh, or see <marillat> |
| 01:16.46 | usual | testing is considered a little more stable than sid correct? |
| 01:16.53 | Johnny_5 | ?? |
| 01:16.56 | usual | I've always used unstable |
| 01:17.02 | pink1 | usual: That is correct, but they are very close to one another. |
| 01:17.02 | unfo | usual: why are you on etch? |
| 01:17.05 | dvs | usual: Testing is a bit more... well... tested |
| 01:17.18 | stoned | lunitik, use mplayer in console mplayer dvd:// and see what kind of verbose errors it comes up with |
| 01:17.21 | stoned | mplayer is wicked |
| 01:17.21 | Johnny_5 | unfo: how about yahoo?? |
| 01:17.21 | usual | unfo: I am not on etch |
| 01:17.30 | usual | dvs: gotcha |
| 01:17.31 | unfo | usual: etch means testing. |
| 01:17.36 | usual | unfo: I am using sid |
| 01:17.38 | dvs | unfo: for now |
| 01:17.43 | unfo | Johnny_5: yahoo is a trade secret too. |
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| 01:18.15 | unfo | Johnny_5: the Kopete open-source instant messenger is supposed to have MSN webcam support anyway. I do not know if it really works. |
| 01:18.40 | lunitik | stoned: crap... that works :P |
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| 01:18.44 | unfo | Johnny_5: ekiga (gnomemeeting) is the best choice. the protocol it uses is an open standard. |
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| 01:18.57 | stoned | crap? |
| 01:18.57 | stoned | hehe |
| 01:18.59 | lunitik | stoned: not entirely sure why... but cool... thanks :) |
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| 01:19.11 | lunitik | stoned: I've been tinkering for like 2 hours :( |
| 01:19.21 | stoned | lunitik, mlayer is godfather of all that is media |
| 01:19.25 | Johnny_5 | unfo: i've been trying to use camorama |
| 01:19.25 | stoned | er.. players |
| 01:19.30 | usual | i like vlc |
| 01:19.40 | unfo | Johnny_5: oh |
| 01:19.45 | unfo | i like vlc too. |
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| 01:20.20 | stoned | I have not figured out why, but nothing but mplayer will play my dvds |
| 01:20.21 | usual | has anyone else tried the gui installer yet? I think it's great |
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| 01:20.40 | unfo | usual: not yet. I do not buy new computers often. :) |
| 01:20.43 | usual | stoned: try vlc |
| 01:20.47 | unfo | !g-i |
| 01:20.47 | dpkg | g-i is the new graphical installer; it has already been integrated into d-i, and newer install images should have it |
| 01:20.48 | stoned | no dice |
| 01:20.54 | stoned | when I say nothing, I mean nothing |
| 01:20.58 | unfo | !forget g-i |
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| 01:21.07 | beginer | dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 -> Package 'xfree86' not installed... |
| 01:21.15 | usual | stoned: do you have xine? |
| 01:21.25 | beginer | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -> Package 'xserver-xorg' not installed... |
| 01:21.27 | stoned | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:21.52 | stoned | usual, yes I have |
| 01:22.00 | pervez | I hav an Intel D101ggc board, I am unable to configure graphics.Is it that mainboard is not supported? |
| 01:22.01 | stoned | I don't want to use anything but mplayer |
| 01:22.03 | stoned | leave me alone ;) |
| 01:22.09 | dvs | !pal stoned |
| 01:22.32 | beginer | in XF86Config-4 > Section "Input device" > |
| 01:22.46 | beginer | device /dev/input/mice |
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| 01:22.51 | stoned | yes |
| 01:22.58 | beginer | protocol ImPS/2 |
| 01:22.59 | unfo | pervez: lspci |
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| 01:23.11 | unfo | pervez: what is your graphics chip? |
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| 01:25.08 | abrotman | pervez: lspci | grep VGA |
| 01:25.26 | unfo | no, g-i is the new Debian graphical installer. Try it! Simply download and boot the latest daily from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ then type the word installgui at the boot prompt. |
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| 01:26.51 | beginer | ok... mouse is working... all is ok... how do i set windows interface? |
| 01:27.07 | unfo | beginer: you have already installed KDE. does gdm work? |
| 01:27.21 | unfo | gdm should start kde for you. |
| 01:27.25 | stoned | lol |
| 01:27.34 | stoned | why the fuck didn't you just have him install kdm |
| 01:27.34 | beginer | how can i find out? |
| 01:27.45 | abrotman | there'll be a big stupid K in the corner |
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| 01:27.52 | beginer | yes |
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| 01:29.02 | unfo | beginer: great! there is a web browser installed called Konqueror, but you can easily install Firefox if you prefer it. there is a simple word processor already installed but I do not recommend it. OpenOffice.org is better (though it's a big download.) |
| 01:29.19 | unfo | beginer: what other programs do you want? |
| 01:29.36 | stoned | beginer, what kind of a system do you have? quite modern, powerful? or slightly older? tell. |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | unfo: koffice isn't exactly basic |
| 01:30.02 | unfo | abrotman: it doesn't show images in certain .doc files for me. |
| 01:30.05 | beginer | i know... i need to make kde with interface like windows 98 with "start"... a clone of 95/98 |
| 01:30.07 | unfo | abrotman: but youre right. |
| 01:30.19 | unfo | beginer: click the K menu. That is the Start menu. |
| 01:30.26 | Johnny_5 | unfo: is there a way to get camorama to work for me?? |
| 01:30.30 | unfo | Johnny_5: yes. |
| 01:30.31 | stoned | beginer, if you lack on ram, I don't reccomend loading up Qt libs and gtk libs and oo and bogging your system down |
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| 01:30.38 | Johnny_5 | :) |
| 01:30.42 | unfo | Johnny_5: you need to ask more carefully :) |
| 01:30.43 | cire | I have a linux laptop and a windows machine with huge diskspace. I want to use rsync to backup my data from the laptop onto the windows machine via samba. I never used rsync before, so my question is: Will using samba ans fat32 or ntfs filesystem cause problems because of different permission-management? Or will other problems occur? (Speed doesn't matter) |
| 01:30.43 | beginer | but i need to write "start" in place of K |
| 01:30.44 | unfo | !ask |
| 01:30.44 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 01:31.14 | unfo | cire: why rsync? I use tar. |
| 01:31.18 | beginer | i have 512 DDR, duron 1200 |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | i have three mice and a gerbil |
| 01:31.35 | debian | cire: just tar |
| 01:31.54 | unfo | beginer: you have enough RAM for KDE. I recommend you keep KDE, it has more features than the competition. |
| 01:31.55 | stoned | beginer, you'll be alright, OOo is bloatware though, you can easily get away with abiword for word processing or kword is really nice |
| 01:32.08 | abrotman | unfo: liar |
| 01:32.14 | unfo | abrotman: liar first |
| 01:32.30 | abrotman | unfo: i was ? |
| 01:32.35 | unfo | I use abiword on my old junk bucket. OpenOffice.org is more featureful but slower. |
| 01:32.36 | stoned | abrotman, lemmywinks? |
| 01:32.38 | unfo | abrotman: of course :) |
| 01:32.39 | stoned | ;) |
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| 01:32.42 | abrotman | at least i wasn't dumb enough to have someone install gdm to fix a mouse issue |
| 01:32.52 | unfo | abrotman: stop making fun. |
| 01:32.54 | stoned | abrotman, lol |
| 01:32.56 | cire | debian: firstly I'd like to test rsync, and secondly I thought rsync would just transfer the different bytes, i think this would be cool. (I know I said speed doesn't matter, but I just WANT to use rsync ;) ) |
| 01:33.00 | abrotman | stop doing stupid things |
| 01:33.08 | unfo | abrotman: i did already. |
| 01:33.11 | Johnny_5 | !ask how can i get camorama to work with my webcam? its a creative webcam. the error i get is: could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). please check connection. what can i do? |
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| 01:33.20 | beginer | i keep it if i can to clone win98/95 or xp interface... |
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| 01:33.20 | abrotman | unfo: you just said kde was good .. you're still doing it |
| 01:33.30 | unfo | !start a flamewar |
| 01:33.30 | dpkg | Finnish is better than Swedish |
| 01:33.32 | abrotman | dvs: no more poutine ? |
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| 01:33.43 | unfo | beginer: why do you want a clone? |
| 01:33.44 | dvs | abrotman: Bah! That's unhealthy. |
| 01:33.44 | DragonD | how do i "rehash" my mail aliases? |
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| 01:33.54 | stoned | actually I like swedish more, but better, I dunno |
| 01:34.00 | abrotman | beginer: you can with icewm |
| 01:34.00 | debian | cire: then it doesn't matter what mount point it is, just make sure windows wont' touch it |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | !xpde |
| 01:34.13 | dpkg | somebody said xpde was a desktop environment attempting to make it easier for the newbie. stands for "XP Desktop Environment.", or at xpde.com for more info. |
| 01:34.18 | beginer | because i need to setup for someone |
| 01:34.20 | unfo | DragonD: where have you tried looking for information already? |
| 01:34.22 | unfo | !fvwm95 |
| 01:34.23 | dpkg | fvwm95 is probably a windows 95 like window manager for X. most people think it sucks. icewm is better for windowslikeness, or if you want something userfriendly, use KDE or GNOME. |
| 01:34.28 | cire | debian: so the stored files will save the linux-rights? |
| 01:34.34 | Johnny_5 | unfo: um...i don't think that worked...what did i do wrong? |
| 01:34.38 | abrotman | !xpde =~ s#xpde.com#http://www.xpde.com/# |
| 01:34.38 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 01:34.40 | unfo | Johnny_5: ask again. |
| 01:34.45 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 01:34.49 | rash | pleas help k3p will not format dvd it will finish in 1 secund |
| 01:35.00 | unfo | Johnny_5: do not write !ask before your question. :) |
| 01:35.01 | rash | what can i doo |
| 01:35.09 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 01:35.13 | rash | ok |
| 01:35.14 | debian | cire: doubtful for rsync, I encountered problems on *linux* mount before so I stopped using it |
| 01:35.19 | beginer | how do i install fvwm95? |
| 01:35.27 | unfo | beginer: do not use fvwm95, it sucks. |
| 01:35.30 | dvs | !xfce |
| 01:35.30 | dpkg | [xfce] a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. http://www.xfce.org/ . Sarge : apt-get install xfce4 Woody : apt-get install xfce |
| 01:35.36 | abrotman | you're hte one that called the stupid factoid |
| 01:35.39 | stoned | xfce is the shit |
| 01:35.45 | unfo | abrotman: point |
| 01:35.51 | Johnny_5 | can i just copy and paste the one i just asked (minus the !ask) |
| 01:35.52 | Johnny_5 | ? |
| 01:35.58 | rash | how can i format dvd on k3b? |
| 01:36.00 | abrotman | unfo: i think you're about -41 by now :) |
| 01:36.03 | stoned | can' wait for 4.4 to go stable |
| 01:36.05 | unfo | Johnny_5: you can. Or, better yet, use the Up Arrow to recall it. |
| 01:36.07 | asg | beginer: apt-cache search fvwm95 |
| 01:36.12 | unfo | abrotman: what is -41? |
| 01:36.15 | stoned | rash, what do you mean format a dvd? |
| 01:36.21 | beginer | ok |
| 01:36.24 | abrotman | unfo: your points :) |
| 01:36.25 | stoned | rash, you don't format dvds |
| 01:36.26 | Johnny_5 | oh yeah...heh |
| 01:36.31 | Johnny_5 | !ask how can i get camorama to work with my webcam? its a creative webcam. the error i get is: could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). please check connection. what can i do? |
| 01:36.35 | stoned | rash, do you want to BURN a dvd? |
| 01:36.35 | Johnny_5 | errr |
| 01:36.36 | rash | blank the dvd+rw |
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| 01:36.42 | Johnny_5 | how can i get camorama to work with my webcam? its a creative webcam. the error i get is: could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). please check connection. what can i do? |
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| 01:36.58 | unfo | all, wouldn |
| 01:36.58 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 01:36.59 | Johnny_5 | forgot to take the !ask off |
| 01:37.02 | stoned | rash, ahh, erase the disc. Maybe you might have better luck in #k3b or #kde |
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| 01:37.17 | rash | thanks |
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| 01:37.25 | efaistos | hi |
| 01:37.25 | rash | stoned |
| 01:37.27 | efaistos | is there a debian pkg for File::Stat ? |
| 01:37.28 | stoned | yes |
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| 01:37.31 | stoned | I am |
| 01:37.37 | stoned | VERY much so. :D |
| 01:37.38 | mynullvoid | how can I list BerkeleyDB 0.27 (libdb 4.3) content from the database via shell? |
| 01:37.42 | Ironhand | I'm doing routine aptitude package upgrades and post-install scripts keep hanging (that is, the unpack/setup process keeps hanging and every time I ctrl+c it seems to have happened in a postinst script). what could be going on? |
| 01:38.06 | unfo | efaistos: if there is it's called libfile-stat-perl |
| 01:38.12 | abrotman | efaistos: probably |
| 01:38.15 | unfo | efaistos: if there isn't, use dh to make it. |
| 01:38.43 | stoned | Ironhand, it should tell you why it failed, at what error |
| 01:38.43 | unfo | mynullvoid: why via shell? |
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| 01:38.55 | stoned | or actually, which step it failed at |
| 01:39.03 | mynullvoid | unfo: from command line |
| 01:39.05 | abrotman | unfo: why not? |
| 01:39.21 | Ironhand | stoned: it doesn't "fail". It just hangs indefinitely, until I ctrl+c it, at which point it reports "subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" |
| 01:39.21 | tilrman | efaistos: dpkg -S stat.pm -> perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.8.8/File/stat.pm |
| 01:39.30 | stoned | hmm |
| 01:39.38 | stoned | Ironhand, which distro ? |
| 01:39.39 | unfo | mynullvoid: why via command line? Instead of asking the specific question, please tell me what you are trying to do in general. :) |
| 01:39.50 | stoned | oh nm |
| 01:39.56 | stoned | routine updates, sid? |
| 01:39.56 | Ironhand | stoned: Debian Sid |
| 01:40.00 | Ironhand | yes |
| 01:40.01 | stoned | yeh, brain fart sorry |
| 01:40.03 | mynullvoid | unfo: I got a file user.db - how can I see what's inside? |
| 01:40.09 | unfo | efaistos: as tilrman recommended, apt-get install perl-modules |
| 01:40.11 | abrotman | mynullvoid: apt-cache search libdb<versionyou'reusing> |
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| 01:40.22 | unfo | mynullvoid: do you have kde installed? (if so, use knoda. it's great.) |
| 01:40.30 | abrotman | holy crap |
| 01:40.35 | unfo | IIRC knoda does bdb. |
| 01:40.36 | abrotman | let's install all kinds of stupid things .. |
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| 01:40.48 | abrotman | it won't actualyl solve the problem .. but who cares |
| 01:40.50 | stoned | Ironhand, I don't know, I can't think of anything |
| 01:40.52 | unfo | abrotman: how slow is your PC? |
| 01:41.04 | unfo | JPQuiceno: hi |
| 01:41.14 | stoned | lol, people usually ask how fast a pc is |
| 01:41.19 | abrotman | unfo: quite fast enough .. but you seem incapable of answering a question without avoiding the question |
| 01:41.21 | stoned | "hey, how fast is your pc?" |
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| 01:41.22 | stoned | etc. |
| 01:41.26 | mynullvoid | unfo: I don't have any xwindow; that's why I am asking for shell output |
| 01:41.30 | unfo | abrotman: on a fast pc, apt-get is easy. |
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| 01:41.38 | abrotman | god .. so fucking stupid |
| 01:41.42 | unfo | mynullvoid: ah. does strings filename.db | less do it? |
| 01:41.57 | rclark | My USB printer (Samsung ML1210) is not detected according to lsusb. Other USB devices display their device IDs, but not this printer under testing. It shows up and works fine with sarge though. Any ideas please? |
| 01:41.58 | dvs | abrotman: huh? |
| 01:42.03 | abrotman | dvs: not you |
| 01:42.06 | stoned | abrotman, i feel ya mate |
| 01:42.16 | Ironhand | stoned: thx anyway... guess I'll just ctrl+c through all of it and see how broken my system is afterwards |
| 01:42.18 | mynullvoid | unfo: cat? |
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| 01:42.31 | efaistos | unfo: tilrman already installed |
| 01:42.34 | unfo | mynullvoid: strings |
| 01:42.57 | tilrman | efaistos: check your spelling . . . i assume you want File::stat and not File::Stat |
| 01:43.10 | abrotman | mynullvoid: you want to be able to query the DB right ? |
| 01:43.23 | abrotman | instead of unfo's weird idea that you just want to see random crap |
| 01:43.42 | unfo | abrotman: i was just answering the question literally. "to see what is in it" :) |
| 01:43.57 | abrotman | unfo: i'm sorry .. i can't smile .. i have to install a KDE app to do it |
| 01:44.00 | unfo | abrotman: perhaps all mynullvoid wanted to do was to see what the file was for. |
| 01:44.21 | stoned | lol man you're making me crack up especially while I'm prone to laughing cuz im stoned |
| 01:44.21 | unfo | abrotman: whats wrong with GUIs? |
| 01:44.56 | stoned | I'm not sure you should be helping furthur, without sounding disrespectful |
| 01:45.03 | stoned | sorry :/ |
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| 01:45.27 | stoned | but my opinion is usually always wrong |
| 01:45.29 | abrotman | "<abrotman> I want to install a kernel | <unfo> You probably want synaptic | <abrotman> no .. just a kernel | <unfo> Synaptic is way easier to install kernels with" |
| 01:45.56 | unfo | stoned: I hear your point and see the wisdom in it. |
| 01:46.35 | unfo | abrotman: I happen to think that gui apps are nice for viewing database contents. |
| 01:47.05 | abrotman | it wasn't what mynullvoid asked ... |
| 01:47.05 | asg | !qotd167 |
| 01:47.05 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd167 is <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686. I don't do any image processing, so I think it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel |
| 01:47.07 | rclark | Perhaps a more debian-centric question would be more appropriate: It seems hotplug (sarge) was replaced with udev (testing). Is there an evuivalent to the hotplug command to search for USB devices? |
| 01:47.09 | stoned | unfo, much simpler to type apt-cache search linux-image|less |
| 01:47.11 | stoned | etc. |
| 01:47.13 | unfo | 21:33 < mynullvoid> how can I list BerkeleyDB 0.27 (libdb 4.3) content from the database via shell? |
| 01:47.17 | stoned | its the same thing, you can scroll up and down |
| 01:47.21 | stoned | page up page down too |
| 01:47.22 | unfo | stoned: abrotman made that quote up. |
| 01:47.31 | abrotman | unfo: made what up ? |
| 01:47.39 | unfo | 21:41 < abrotman> "<abrotman> I want to install a kernel | <unfo> You probably want synaptic | <abrotman> no .. just a kernel | <unfo> Synaptic is way easier to install kernels with" |
| 01:47.44 | abrotman | that's why there are quotes around it |
| 01:48.06 | unfo | abrotman: i know. but stoned is stoned ATM so I am explaining it in full. |
| 01:48.18 | abrotman | unfo: he understands what is going on |
| 01:48.20 | rclark | nevrmind. I'll reboot into Sarge. Thanks anyway. |
| 01:48.36 | stoned | I know, I mean to say the concept is the same |
| 01:48.37 | unfo | rclark: um |
| 01:48.37 | abrotman | rclark: lsusb ? |
| 01:49.01 | stoned | you can view packages with GUI with ton sof bullshit loaded, or you can simply less the search output or whatever |
| 01:49.07 | unfo | rclark: you can lsusb then find out what drivers go with that USB device. |
| 01:49.09 | abrotman | mynullvoid: did you find your answer ? |
| 01:49.17 | rclark | ahh, hello. Thanks you. I tried lsusb and the printer is still not appearing there. |
| 01:49.19 | unfo | stoned: correct. |
| 01:49.21 | stoned | I've never seen a linux helper support guy who recomends people to not use console but use gui |
| 01:49.27 | stoned | that is just fucking stupid imo |
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| 01:49.27 | unfo | rclark: that is highly odd. |
| 01:49.36 | abrotman | usblp loaded ? |
| 01:49.40 | mynullvoid | abrotman: strings helps but it display other info as well |
| 01:49.50 | abrotman | mynullvoid: do you iknow which version of the DB you're using ? |
| 01:49.51 | unfo | mynullvoid: do you want to query the database? |
| 01:49.58 | mynullvoid | 4.3 |
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| 01:50.08 | abrotman | mynullvoid: try libdb4.3-utils |
| 01:50.19 | mynullvoid | i got that already installed |
| 01:50.20 | abrotman | mynullvoid: there are some utilities in there |
| 01:50.24 | abrotman | mynullvoid: not good enough ? |
| 01:50.36 | hanasaki | someone was saying there was a problem where two diff packages resulted int eh same md5 hash sometime ago? anyone know if this is true and have a link to the issue? |
| 01:50.40 | unfo | of course, dpkg -L libdb4.3-utils |
| 01:51.02 | abrotman | hanasaki: it is true .. google for "md5 collision" |
| 01:51.15 | unfo | hanasaki: or wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 |
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| 01:51.15 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 01:51.18 | mynullvoid | abrotman: having a util and know to use the util is two diff things |
| 01:51.20 | abrotman | hanasaki: or try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/md5 .. or something |
| 01:51.29 | abrotman | mynullvoid: oh .. so you want a more simple tool ? |
| 01:51.41 | CHodapp | MD5 has collisions, but unless you are using it for some rather important security, it won't matter much. |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 |
| 01:51.58 | unfo | mynullvoid: the more information you give the channel about what you are trying to do, the better we can help you. |
| 01:51.59 | rclark | unfo: usblp wasn't loaded. modprobe loaded it without errors. After rebooting the printer it is there |
| 01:52.07 | unfo | rclark: great! |
| 01:52.15 | mynullvoid | I just want to display what is inside that db |
| 01:52.15 | rclark | Thank you all very much |
| 01:52.27 | mynullvoid | I am looking into pam_abl |
| 01:52.27 | unfo | mynullvoid: "display"???? |
| 01:52.36 | mynullvoid | unfo list it out |
| 01:52.39 | unfo | oh. |
| 01:52.58 | rclark | and ooo prints. Bloody marvelous :))) |
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| 01:53.11 | abrotman | rclark: yay! |
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| 01:53.35 | unfo | "bloody marvelous": I like that phrase. |
| 01:53.36 | rclark | goodnight all. Maybe one day I'll be able to return the favour. |
| 01:53.45 | dvs | rclark: send $$$ |
| 01:53.52 | abrotman | to dvs .. he's canadian |
| 01:54.00 | abrotman | he's wearing bear skin |
| 01:54.07 | dvs | we love colored money |
| 01:54.13 | stoned | I got crab rangoons and sesemea chicken |
| 01:54.16 | stoned | ! |
| 01:54.24 | dvs | and it caribou skin! |
| 01:54.26 | dvs | its |
| 01:54.31 | unfo | stoned: please don't send them to us. :) |
| 01:54.37 | unfo | they don't mail well. |
| 01:54.39 | rclark | hehe. If I had any money I might use RedHat. Just kidding - Debian forever! |
| 01:54.41 | stoned | i'll share |
| 01:54.43 | stoned | heh |
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| 01:55.08 | abrotman | i wanted to have chinese for lunch .. but i smelled after my bike ride .. oh well |
| 01:55.22 | mynullvoid | what is OFTC? |
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| 01:55.26 | xerophyte | is there any program to monitor the /tmp partition for nobody uploaded files ? |
| 01:55.27 | abrotman | !oftc move |
| 01:55.28 | dpkg | irc.debian.org is moving to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 01:55.35 | DragonD | unfo: sorry, i did a quick search on google. that's it tho. maybe i'll look at some man pages |
| 01:55.36 | abrotman | mynullvoid: it's another IRC network .. like freenode |
| 01:55.49 | abrotman | xerophyte: huh ? |
| 01:55.49 | mynullvoid | what does it stands for? |
| 01:55.52 | unfo | DragonD: you should read more about mail server administration. |
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| 01:55.55 | unfo | !oftc |
| 01:55.56 | dpkg | [oftc] the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net |
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| 01:56.18 | mynullvoid | ok |
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| 01:56.36 | xerophyte | abrotman, is there any program which watch the /tmp partition and let me know if there is new file created using pattern to ignore some of the files |
| 01:56.43 | unfo | Why were we moving again? Was it because of NOIDPRIVMSG? |
| 01:56.46 | abrotman | xerophyte: FAM might |
| 01:56.48 | DragonD | unfo: i found it... newaliases right? |
| 01:56.52 | abrotman | unfo: read the threads listed above |
| 01:57.00 | abrotman | !fam |
| 01:57.00 | dpkg | [fam] a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap, or if lack of FAM is killing your courier-imap, build courier-imap from upstream source |
| 01:57.00 | unfo | abrotman: i did. |
| 01:57.08 | abrotman | unfo: the reasons are listed in those threads |
| 01:57.22 | unfo | all I recall now is NOIDPRIVMSG. |
| 01:57.31 | abrotman | there's plenty more |
| 01:57.35 | unfo | oh. |
| 01:57.45 | Annirak | How do I change the number of a partition? I created two partitions: 1 of swap, and 1 for my root. Now, I have discovered that the image I'm using is set to use the first partition as the boot partition (it's a flash image for an arm device) |
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| 01:58.37 | unfo | DragonD: correct. but running a mail server exposed to the greater Internet is a big responsibility. at the very least, make sure you are not running an open SMTP relay. |
| 01:59.06 | unfo | Annirak: what do you want to change the number from and to? |
| 01:59.22 | Annirak | unfo: from #2 to #1 |
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| 01:59.37 | unfo | Annirak: maybe fdisk(1) can do it. be careful. |
| 01:59.43 | Annirak | both primary, not logical |
| 01:59.52 | Annirak | I'll give it a go |
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| 02:00.08 | unfo | Annirak: you know how to back up a partition table with dd? |
| 02:00.41 | Annirak | unfo: all that's on it is the base ARM install of Debian. I can live through another install if necessary |
| 02:00.52 | stoned | my brother went to walmart first, the crab rangoons are cold, can you nuke em without destryoing em? |
| 02:01.06 | unfo | Annirak: ok. btw, can i ask what arm device you are on? :) |
| 02:01.09 | abrotman | stoned: your options are .. what? |
| 02:01.16 | stoned | nuke it, or eat it cold |
| 02:01.22 | Annirak | unfo: Linksys nslu2 |
| 02:01.25 | abrotman | stoned: so try to nuke one |
| 02:01.26 | unfo | stoned: one option is to nuke 1 and see if it survives. |
| 02:01.28 | unfo | Annirak: cool! |
| 02:01.32 | stoned | ahh, doh |
| 02:01.38 | gravity | gar, why does screen seem to freeze up sometimes? |
| 02:01.46 | abrotman | stoned: this is why you shouldn't cook while stoned |
| 02:01.48 | unfo | !tell gravity about ask |
| 02:01.49 | Annirak | unfo: =) |
| 02:01.57 | stoned | lol |
| 02:01.59 | unfo | gravity: sorry :) |
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| 02:02.22 | gravity | ... |
| 02:02.27 | abrotman | gravity: you hit ctrl-s ? |
| 02:02.34 | gravity | No idea |
| 02:02.44 | stoned | I've got one, with a opensource firmware |
| 02:02.46 | stoned | works grand |
| 02:02.47 | unfo | gravity: text mode? xterm? KDE? |
| 02:02.49 | abrotman | try ctrl-q next time |
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| 02:03.02 | gravity | abrotman: That did it, thank you |
| 02:03.30 | stoned | ugh gnome terminal |
| 02:03.33 | abrotman | gravity: i used to hit ctrl-s all the time when i was doing PHP dev .. and i'd switch from a windows app to vi :) |
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| 02:04.03 | stoned | xterm is nice, but... |
| 02:04.06 | stoned | multi-gnome-terminal is nicer |
| 02:04.15 | stoned | or mrxvt too |
| 02:04.27 | unfo | how much does a WRT54G or NSLU2 or other small, low-power Linux box cost? |
| 02:04.47 | stoned | I bought mine for 20$ |
| 02:05.05 | stoned | it was on sale at radio shack |
| 02:06.08 | unfo | cool, a web server for $20. and now that I'm back on Rogers, my net connection is pretty reliable. |
| 02:06.08 | stoned | a webserver? |
| 02:06.08 | unfo | so I would have good uptime. |
| 02:06.08 | unfo | stoned: why not? !thttpd |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | you should use KDE as a webserver ... |
| 02:06.19 | stoned | oh my god |
| 02:06.20 | stoned | lol |
| 02:06.21 | unfo | !trout abrotman |
| 02:06.26 | stoned | HAHAHAHA |
| 02:06.30 | stoned | trout slap lol |
| 02:06.32 | unfo | awww.... :) |
| 02:06.34 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 02:06.35 | stoned | ya'll are crazy |
| 02:06.38 | abrotman | I GOT THE PONY! |
| 02:07.17 | Annirak | !prize me |
| 02:07.22 | Annirak | :/ |
| 02:07.25 | unfo | !pony Annirak |
| 02:07.30 | Annirak | :D |
| 02:07.42 | Annirak | :( |
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| 02:08.58 | abrotman | noone knows who lady godiva is ? |
| 02:09.05 | asg | abrotman: yes |
| 02:09.14 | stoned | I like Godiva candybars |
| 02:09.16 | abrotman | asg: i know you would .. but the other 740 people ? |
| 02:09.32 | abrotman | asg: i'd like to see mcphee do a lady godiva! |
| 02:09.40 | asg | abrotman: they probably think she invented chocolate |
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| 02:10.20 | stoned | no, I think choc is much older than 1000 AD |
| 02:10.22 | onweald_tim | I am trying to use aty128fb on a MB with built in ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra. I put video=aty128fb:1024x768@60m in grub's menu.lst. |
| 02:10.28 | stoned | no? |
| 02:10.43 | onweald_tim | When I boot everything looks fine until the aty128fb initializes. |
| 02:10.50 | onweald_tim | It suddenly goes dim. |
| 02:10.51 | stoned | what? |
| 02:10.59 | onweald_tim | I can barely see the text. |
| 02:11.04 | onweald_tim | Any ideas? |
| 02:11.09 | abrotman | don't use it ? |
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| 02:11.40 | onweald_tim | abrotman: Wouldn't it be the best thing to use since it is "correct" for my hardware? |
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| 02:11.53 | abrotman | onweald_tim: this is for X ? |
| 02:12.03 | abrotman | the mga driver or ati driver doesn't work ? |
| 02:12.04 | onweald_tim | Not now but will be in a month or so. |
| 02:12.34 | samuel | is there any tutorial on installing 32bit chroot for amd64? |
| 02:12.44 | onweald_tim | abrotman: The terminal is bright until video initializes. Then it is so dim that I can barely read it. |
| 02:12.50 | onweald_tim | Even if I adjust contrast. |
| 02:12.51 | asg | samuel: if nobody here knows, the #debian-amd64 folks will |
| 02:13.02 | abrotman | onweald_tim: tried another resolution or refresh ? |
| 02:13.11 | abrotman | !chroot |
| 02:13.11 | dpkg | it has been said that chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 02:13.25 | onweald_tim | abrotman: Yes. Multiple resolutions. All the same. |
| 02:13.25 | samuel | asg, thanks! |
| 02:13.31 | asg | samuel: you're welcome |
| 02:13.38 | samuel | abrotman, thanks |
| 02:13.40 | onweald_tim | I wonder if my hardware is an odd version. |
| 02:14.11 | onweald_tim | I am wondering also if I am missing some configuration. |
| 02:14.24 | onweald_tim | Is there a way to change the resolution once I have booted? |
| 02:14.30 | onweald_tim | like a vidmode or something? |
| 02:15.09 | onweald_tim | Googling vidmode indicates it modifies kernel directly and should be avoided. |
| 02:15.15 | onweald_tim | But nothing says what to use instead. |
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| 02:15.29 | ruben_ | Hi |
| 02:15.31 | ruben_ | what is the way to send a paquet ICMP type 8 via command to another machine? |
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| 02:15.49 | asg | ruben_: netcat |
| 02:15.55 | ruben_ | how? |
| 02:16.05 | ruben_ | ping ip is valid? |
| 02:16.11 | onweald_tim | I did see one article saying to avoid compiling vesafb if you are using aty128fb. |
| 02:16.17 | onweald_tim | I confirmed I am not using it. |
| 02:16.43 | onweald_tim | Since I can see the text, I assume aty128fb is working and that I need to tweak/configure it somehow. How is the question... |
| 02:16.59 | ruben_ | asg tell me how please with nc :) |
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| 02:17.36 | Annirak | what should I do before removing an unmounted USB mass storage device? |
| 02:17.51 | cunakya | nothing (pretty sure) |
| 02:18.00 | Phated | If you unmount it, you can remove it. |
| 02:18.05 | asg | Annirak: sync(1) a few times |
| 02:18.11 | Annirak | cunakya: when I do nothing, it shuts down the USB port |
| 02:18.21 | Annirak | (after it's removed) |
| 02:18.37 | onweald_tim | Annirak: What does it do when you plug it back in? |
| 02:18.46 | Annirak | ignores the drive |
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| 02:19.01 | onweald_tim | Annirak: No message or anything? |
| 02:19.07 | onweald_tim | dmesg shows??? |
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| 02:19.28 | Annirak | onweald_tim: lemme check again, I've lost the log of my previous attempt |
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| 02:20.24 | asg | ruben_: sorry, I was mistaken. nc only uses tcp/udp. |
| 02:20.31 | ruben_ | if I use ping ip, I amb sending a icmp type 8??? |
| 02:20.43 | Annirak | onweald_tim: Hmm. Perhaps it wasn't synced last time I tried. This time I didn't get the shutting down port message. Thanks anyway |
| 02:20.48 | irina | Quick questions for Gurus: In KDE or Gnome how to you use a DVD RW? I mean if you want to delet or add files is not like in windows where you just press delete file? |
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| 02:21.21 | onweald_tim | ruben_: correct. |
| 02:21.23 | crn | onweald_tim, on sarge there is command xrandr to change screen resolution. Maybe it will help you. |
| 02:21.28 | ruben_ | thanks then :) |
| 02:21.39 | TTT_Travis | yesterday, my internet just stopped working on my debian box, it worked fine on my pc and mac but on my debian I can only connect to my routers interface, so today I reinstalled debian I also tried a suse live cd and none of them can connect to the internet, just the router, I tried hooking the boxes directly up bypassing the router but that still didn't work |
| 02:21.57 | TTT_Travis | do you think this is something my isp might have caused? |
| 02:21.57 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: Is the ethernet cable plugged in? |
| 02:22.03 | TTT_Travis | yes |
| 02:22.08 | TTT_Travis | I can access my router fine |
| 02:22.13 | TTT_Travis | at 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:22.14 | onweald_tim | crn: Not using x so xrandr won't work. |
| 02:22.21 | TTT_Travis | just can't get outside world |
| 02:22.30 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: Is your router plugged into your cable modem/DSL modem |
| 02:22.41 | TTT_Travis | yeah |
| 02:22.44 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: Explain your router. |
| 02:22.49 | TTT_Travis | my windows box works fine |
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| 02:23.20 | TTT_Travis | ok I have a motorolla surfboard cable modem -> linksys wrt54gc -> debian box |
| 02:23.21 | Annirak | Wooo! It's booting! My NSLU2 on Debian Lives! |
| 02:23.41 | TTT_Travis | my windows box works fine |
| 02:23.43 | TTT_Travis | as does my mac |
| 02:23.53 | quebee | TTT_Travis> try ifup eth0 |
| 02:23.59 | TTT_Travis | but all of my linux boxes just stopped connecting to the internet the other day |
| 02:24.10 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: Can you ping your DNS IP? |
| 02:24.13 | TTT_Travis | yes |
| 02:24.19 | TTT_Travis | both of them I can ping |
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| 02:24.47 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: Can you ping an IP (not domain name) over the Internet? |
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| 02:24.53 | TTT_Travis | no |
| 02:25.00 | abrotman | telnet www.google.com 80 \n get / |
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| 02:25.38 | TTT_Travis | abrotman doesn't work |
| 02:25.40 | TTT_Travis | can't connect |
| 02:25.46 | TTT_Travis | I am thinking its something my isp casued |
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| 02:25.59 | TTT_Travis | because earliar the day this happened they upgraded my internet speeds |
| 02:26.07 | TTT_Travis | 5 hours later boom no linux connect |
| 02:26.18 | abrotman | so call them ? |
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| 02:26.43 | TTT_Travis | abrotman tomorrow, todays memorial day |
| 02:26.52 | TTT_Travis | but yeah I guess thats what'll have to do |
| 02:27.15 | abrotman | TTT_Travis: they have people there |
| 02:27.26 | Zweideutig | TTT_Travis: I think you are having Internet connectivity issues. |
| 02:27.35 | stickbit | #cacic-br |
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| 02:28.29 | crn | TTT_Travis, you can ping a name eg boeing.com, but not an ip address? |
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| 02:30.40 | tilrman | TTT_Travis: does your router "know" about your linux box? that is, is there a list of computers that your win and mac boxes is in? |
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| 02:31.17 | _ericb | I have an application that takes 50% of cpus, but it doesn't show up on 'top'.. is there a way to find it ? |
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| 02:31.47 | abrotman | _ericb: did unfo have you install kde ? |
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| 02:33.06 | _ericb | abrotman ksysguard doesn't report it neither |
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| 02:33.51 | _ericb | abrotman unfo ? |
| 02:33.59 | TTT_Travis | there contacted my isp |
| 02:34.01 | sonic_beatnik | anyone know what this means during boot: modprobe "Error running install command for binfmt_0000" google didnt give me much and it locks the kernel. I cant boot into 2.6.16 beacuse of it. Just started happening. |
| 02:34.03 | TTT_Travis | see what they see tomorrow |
| 02:34.07 | sciboy | Hey guys, i am CPU and Motherboard shopping and i was wondering what you'd recommend? |
| 02:34.08 | TTT_Travis | thanks anyway guys |
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| 02:34.29 | sciboy | I am planning to do a fair bit of rendering so some speed would be nice. |
| 02:34.46 | debian | sciboy: depends on your budget |
| 02:34.56 | eevench | X is giving me problems. Im on irssi now. I have a USB Microsoft mouse but I cannot find where the device file is. Any help? |
| 02:35.13 | sciboy | debian, I rather look at the cheaper to mid range cpu. |
| 02:35.16 | gravity_ | yay udev |
| 02:35.26 | abrotman | eevench: modprobe mousedev .. use /dev/input/mice |
| 02:35.32 | abrotman | gravity: udev crashed your box ? |
| 02:35.54 | gravity | abrotman: Maybe, but I was just looking at eevench's problem |
| 02:35.58 | gravity | Something brought it down |
| 02:36.17 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:36.20 | sciboy | debian, My budget, lets say i'm looking to go under $500 |
| 02:36.26 | sonic_beatnik | no one knows what binfmt_0000 could be referring to? google hasnt given me any answers. at least not in english |
| 02:36.26 | abrotman | gravity: let's blame .... PETE! |
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| 02:36.54 | eevench | abrotman: ok. now my mouse moves up when i push it left and down when i push right. It wont move left or right. |
| 02:36.56 | asg | abrotman: peterS or petemc ? |
| 02:37.07 | abrotman | asg: pseubodot .. /msg dpkg iapf |
| 02:37.19 | abrotman | asg: and /whois pseubodot |
| 02:37.28 | asg | abrotman: oh, *that* pete |
| 02:37.32 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:37.44 | abrotman | eevench: try another protocol |
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| 02:37.56 | no0ke | !ntp |
| 02:37.56 | dpkg | methinks ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 02:37.57 | Stevie | At the sound of the ping the time will be Mon May 29 22:37:56 2006 *ping* |
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| 02:37.58 | eevench | abrotman: like? |
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| 02:38.10 | unfo | hi all, how can i see what's in the "desktop" task in tasksel? |
| 02:38.15 | peterS | ...oh, wrong pete |
| 02:38.21 | asg | peterS: yeah, my mistake |
| 02:38.23 | abrotman | peterS: i didn't buzz you! |
| 02:38.27 | peterS | I know that now |
| 02:38.29 | abrotman | eevench: what are you using now ? |
| 02:38.30 | eevench | abrotman: microsoft? |
| 02:38.36 | eevench | abrotman: auto |
| 02:38.44 | abrotman | eevench: what kind of mouse is it ? |
| 02:38.48 | peterS | too bad peterrooney isn't here to pick up a spurious highlight |
| 02:38.51 | abrotman | try PS/2 or IMPS/2 |
| 02:39.02 | eevench | abrotman: M$ |
| 02:39.28 | abrotman | eevench: i meant .. two button .. four button .. scroll wheel .. PS/2 or USB .. etc |
| 02:39.52 | eevench | abrotman: USB, scroll, 5button. microsoft intellimouse |
| 02:40.18 | abrotman | i'd say IMPS/2 |
| 02:40.56 | irina | a stupid question: If I formated a DVD RW wit K3B how can I use it? In windows I just have to Drag and Drop (or press delete) and the files go away |
| 02:41.02 | peterS | ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2 both work for those |
| 02:41.11 | peterS | ExplorerPS/2 gives you more usable buttons |
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| 02:41.45 | jetscreamer | here's my question: |
| 02:41.47 | jetscreamer | jetx:~ > xmmsMessage: device: defaultGdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 1511 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 1512 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0 |
| 02:41.57 | unfo | irina: are you sure it formatted correctly? |
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| 02:42.14 | unfo | jetscreamer: use a different player instead :P just kidding. |
| 02:42.27 | axolx | hi guys -- i want to change the terminal emulator that X uses by default. im using debian etch. how do i do that? |
| 02:42.31 | jetscreamer | unfo: a different one does work |
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| 02:42.40 | eevench | still no dice abrotman, but there is a big storm comming in so im shutting down. bye and thanks for trying :) |
| 02:42.46 | peterS | axolx: just adjust the /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator symlink |
| 02:42.49 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
| 02:43.03 | eevench | abrotman: my hardware doesnt like surges. |
| 02:43.16 | abrotman | most doesn't |
| 02:43.16 | peterS | using ln -fs /usr/bin/aterm /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator, or similar |
| 02:43.18 | axolx | peterS: thanks. do i do it manually, or is there a script that i should use? |
| 02:43.27 | unfo | a big storm in toronto? I'm in toronto too. |
| 02:43.31 | peterS | axolx: you can use 'update-alternatives', but I think just doing it manually is easier, and just as supported |
| 02:43.32 | jetscreamer | oh. and gedit segfaults x when opening a file with a line that's too big |
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| 02:43.53 | jetscreamer | xo*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08685958 *** |
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| 02:43.56 | peterS | axolx: or, just to adjust this for a single user, you can create your own ~/bin/x-terminal-emulator symlink, in your home directory |
| 02:44.02 | abrotman | jetscreamer: dont' make me smack you |
| 02:44.20 | jetscreamer | abrotman: it's my day for bugs it seems |
| 02:44.27 | jetscreamer | !info libasound2 |
| 02:44.32 | dpkg | libasound2: (ALSA library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.0.11-6 (sid), Packaged size: 335 kB, Installed size: 1116 kB |
| 02:44.37 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/Status/Unstable |
| 02:44.53 | jetscreamer | i have -7 it seems to fix the -6 that fixed the -5 |
| 02:44.55 | irina | unfo: I am using K3B has a icon (and menu) which is DVD Formatting (I left the Writing mode Default) and quick format - The format goes fine. Then what? |
| 02:45.00 | unfo | jetscreamer: unstable is often full of bugs. |
| 02:45.07 | jetscreamer | unfo: really? |
| 02:45.09 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:45.15 | peterS | axolx: ahh yes, 'update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator' would do the job |
| 02:45.15 | unfo | jetscreamer: yes :) |
| 02:45.16 | abrotman | jetscreamer: did you know unstable is buggy? .. you should install KDE to report bugs |
| 02:45.23 | jetscreamer | hey |
| 02:45.27 | abrotman | jetscreamer: or .. use a GUI tool to display bugs |
| 02:45.42 | jetscreamer | i could run ubuntu in a virtual server to report bugs on debian packages... |
| 02:45.46 | VolVE | hey all, I just expanded my raid array and am wondering why xfs_growfs doesn't seem to want to use the new free space on the disk... :-/ To clarify: /proc/partitions lists the new disk size, and if I attempt xfs_growfs /path all it does is print the same info as if I do xfs_growfs -n /path - no errors or anything though |
| 02:45.49 | abrotman | jetscreamer: maybe use gedit to read log files ... |
| 02:45.59 | unfo | irina: if the dvd is blank, now you should be able to burn files to it. |
| 02:46.10 | jetscreamer | abrotman: it's when one line is too long, like maybe >255 chars |
| 02:46.13 | jetscreamer | not sure how many |
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| 02:46.20 | jetscreamer | damn thing was huge |
| 02:46.32 | stoned | abrotman, one can successfully nuke a crab rangoon |
| 02:46.37 | jetscreamer | 33.6kb all on one line |
| 02:46.44 | jetscreamer | or so |
| 02:46.48 | abrotman | stoned: that took a while ... was it a toaster or a microwave? |
| 02:47.00 | stoned | I just now got around to it |
| 02:47.01 | stoned | :D |
| 02:47.12 | peterS | maybe it was a *real* nuke |
| 02:47.22 | abrotman | unfo: you should use Kate |
| 02:47.23 | jetscreamer | unfo: nano had no problem either |
| 02:47.23 | stoned | microwave == nuking, toaster == toasting |
| 02:47.23 | stoned | hehe |
| 02:47.40 | jetscreamer | neither did various web apps |
| 02:47.52 | jetscreamer | quanta for instance |
| 02:48.19 | jetscreamer | after i reformatted it to something sensilble gedit had no problem |
| 02:48.46 | unfo | all, how can i see what's in the "desktop" task in tasksel? |
| 02:48.51 | irina | unfo: I burned files on the DVD RW formated Disk. HOw do I remove them? |
| 02:48.57 | jetscreamer | you don't want that option unfo |
| 02:48.59 | unfo | irina: erase the disk? |
| 02:49.02 | jetscreamer | unless you like bloat |
| 02:49.22 | jetscreamer | err 'don't mind' |
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| 02:49.28 | unfo | jetscreamer: emacs is bloated but I have a large hard disk anyway. |
| 02:49.32 | jetscreamer | rdepends |
| 02:49.43 | abrotman | jetscreamer: he uses emacs and kde ... |
| 02:49.46 | abrotman | !bloat |
| 02:49.46 | jetscreamer | heh' |
| 02:49.47 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see <emacs> or <emacs disease> |
| 02:49.48 | jetscreamer | ok |
| 02:50.57 | nevyn | gawk good |
| 02:51.31 | unfo | nevyn: yes. |
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| 02:52.05 | coywolf | say, i have MX for foo.com already, how to set an MX to bar.foo.com ? |
| 02:52.42 | abrotman | ask #dns |
| 02:52.55 | unfo | coywolf: make sure to word your question clearly when you do. :) |
| 02:53.35 | peterS | coywolf: the same way. put a MX record into the nameserver that is canonical for foo.com |
| 02:53.40 | coywolf | i want to set up a mail server for @bar.foo.com, there's a server for @foo.com |
| 02:53.49 | coywolf | unfo, ^ |
| 02:54.34 | unfo | !sendmail |
| 02:54.34 | dpkg | somebody said sendmail was one of the orginal MTAs. Generally, if you don't know why you'd want to run sendmail, you shouldn't. Use nullmailer, esmtp, exim or postfix instead. |
| 02:55.00 | unfo | coywolf: hmm, the bot does not seem to tell much. :P |
| 02:55.09 | abrotman | tell much about what? |
| 02:55.11 | coywolf | peterS, you mean add an MX to foo.com.zone? |
| 02:55.19 | unfo | abrotman: how to set up a mail server. |
| 02:55.19 | axolx | peterS: i used the update-alternatives way and it worked nicely. thanks for your help |
| 02:55.25 | peterS | axolx: cool |
| 02:55.26 | abrotman | unfo: he's not asking that .. AT ALL |
| 02:55.33 | unfo | abrotman: i am quite aware. |
| 02:55.44 | abrotman | holy crap .. more answers to questions never asked |
| 02:56.09 | peterS | coywolf: if bar.foo.com has its own NS record, you want to put the MX into that server. generally this will not be the case, though. generally it will share its nameservers with foo.com itself |
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| 02:56.17 | unfo | abrotman: i am aware that he is trying to set an MX record on his dns server so that the mail will go to his mailserver. |
| 02:56.29 | peterS | coywolf: one way or another, you have to put a bar.foo.com MX record somewhere. usually this will be in the foo.com nameservers. |
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| 02:56.49 | unfo | abrotman: the point i am making is that, in general, !sendmail does not tell one how to set up a mailserver. :) |
| 02:56.50 | abrotman | unfo: you're not helping |
| 02:57.03 | jetscreamer | why is wget d/l'ing .jpg's as text/plain, is that a server-side thing? the images still function properly after they get wgetted |
| 02:57.11 | abrotman | unfo: what the hell makes you think "!sendmail" would show someone who to setup an MX record? |
| 02:57.18 | jetscreamer | !mx |
| 02:57.19 | dpkg | methinks mx is the Mail eXchanger resource record in DNS -- it tells an MTA where to deliver mail for a given domain. Merry Xmas, or Mexico. |
| 02:57.22 | unfo | abrotman: i did not expect it would. |
| 02:57.23 | abrotman | jetscreamer: it can be |
| 02:57.25 | peterS | jetscreamer: presumably that's server-side. I don't think wget really cares what the content type is |
| 02:57.26 | Ugly_Duck | any one use procmail? is there a systemwide config /etc/procmail or a user conf .procmail which users can change to suit them selves? |
| 02:57.38 | peterS | Ugly_Duck: 'man procmailrc' |
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| 02:57.48 | jetscreamer | k thanks |
| 02:57.51 | abrotman | unfo: so as usual .. you're not making sense .. and not helping ... |
| 02:57.58 | peterS | Ugly_Duck: and 'man procmailex' for lots of examples |
| 02:58.05 | abrotman | jetscreamer: what's the URL or don't i want to know? |
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| 02:58.21 | Ugly_Duck | kk, thanks |
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| 03:00.13 | Kurtism | oftc? |
| 03:00.14 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i don't see a URL there |
| 03:00.17 | abrotman | !oftc move |
| 03:00.18 | dpkg | irc.debian.org is moving to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
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| 03:00.34 | abrotman | jetscreamer: erm .. i don't see a JPG there :) |
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| 03:00.46 | VolVE | Does anyone know how to have parted list the available, unused space on a disk? when I tell it to print the partition table, it doesn't list unused space.. |
| 03:01.17 | axolx | hey guys - is rvxt really much smaller than xterm? is it worth switching on a pentium M 1200mhz? |
| 03:01.21 | Kurtism | I've never heard of oftc before |
| 03:01.26 | abrotman | !oftc |
| 03:01.26 | dpkg | from memory, oftc is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net |
| 03:01.41 | rxed | Is there a terminal editor has an auto-save and auto-suggest/correct spell check? |
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| 03:01.47 | unfo | axolx: they say xterm is bloated but I use it anyway. |
| 03:01.56 | nevyn | axolx: I use konsole |
| 03:01.56 | peterS | axolx: dunno, try it. it's not as nice as xterm in terms of font and unicode support, but it _is_ a bit smaller |
| 03:01.57 | unfo | rxed: emacs |
| 03:02.14 | nevyn | axolx: it's really going to affect your memory usage more than anything else |
| 03:02.17 | peterS | axolx: both are miles ahead of konsole or gnome-terminal in terms of size and speed, I understand |
| 03:02.23 | axolx | unfo nevyn peterS: i just switched and ps -aux shows about the same memory usage. |
| 03:02.45 | nevyn | and if you're really after that bit more memory saving switch away from bash to something else |
| 03:03.01 | rxed | Is there a light weight terminal editor has an auto-save and auto-suggest/correct spell check? |
| 03:03.08 | rxed | :) |
| 03:03.19 | unfo | rxed: vim+aspell |
| 03:03.21 | axolx | nevyn. i switched to zsh. do you know if that's more or less resource intensive? |
| 03:03.25 | nevyn | less |
| 03:03.38 | nevyn | axolx: but you have a fast system I don't see what you're in a tiz about |
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| 03:03.50 | orangey | hey all! |
| 03:03.55 | jetscreamer | HEY |
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| 03:03.59 | nevyn | hey orangey |
| 03:04.04 | axolx | nevyn: i guess im just a freak :) |
| 03:04.04 | jetscreamer | HAY |
| 03:04.09 | nevyn | axolx: stop it. |
| 03:04.10 | orangey | does anybody know if pgsql's 7.4.7 has backported patches from 7.4.13? |
| 03:04.15 | orangey | i.e., the big security problems? |
| 03:04.20 | jetscreamer | alfalfa! |
| 03:04.22 | orangey | jetscreamer: HOWDAAAY! |
| 03:04.40 | jetscreamer | alfalfa is a type of hay btw |
| 03:04.44 | peterS | orangey: check http://security.debian.org/ to find out |
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| 03:05.30 | orangey | hmm. |
| 03:05.35 | orangey | well, there's no pgsql security advisory.. |
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| 03:07.40 | orangey | hey all. |
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| 03:07.46 | ruben | Hi again |
| 03:07.48 | orangey | are there backports of something like pgsql 8.1.4? |
| 03:07.51 | ruben | this range of ip are valid marz2 ? |
| 03:07.54 | ruben | this range of ip are valid? |
| 03:07.55 | orangey | ruben: I like greeting people. |
| 03:07.59 | ruben | 172.16.0.0/24 ? |
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| 03:08.25 | jetscreamer | !greet orangey |
| 03:08.25 | dpkg | Hello, orangey |
| 03:08.30 | jetscreamer | !hi orangey |
| 03:08.37 | ruben | is valid this range? please tell me :) |
| 03:08.39 | ruben | 172.16.0.0/24 ? |
| 03:08.46 | peterS | ruben: that range is valid, but not for use on the Internet. those IPs are reserved for private networks |
| 03:08.51 | orangey | thank you : ) |
| 03:08.55 | ruben | okey, thanks :) |
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| 03:09.09 | peterS | ruben: you can actually use all of 172.16.0.0/12 if you need that many |
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| 03:09.51 | peterS | not many people really need a million private IP addresses, but if you do..... |
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| 03:10.18 | pink1 | Usually if I want a /24 private network I just use 192.168.0.x |
| 03:11.00 | ruben | peterS: yes, maybe is more logic, but /24 are valid too? |
| 03:11.03 | peterS | 10.10.220.x are more fun if you used to watch TV commercials in the US |
| 03:11.38 | peterS | ruben: 172.16/24 is a tiny subset of 172.16/12, so sure |
| 03:11.55 | ruben | okey, thanks :) |
| 03:12.02 | rxed | What is the name of the package that can 'read' a text file? |
| 03:12.20 | peterS | rxed: festival? |
| 03:12.29 | peterS | rxed: or, alternatively, 'apt-cache search text to speech' |
| 03:12.30 | rxed | peterS: yes, thats the one. |
| 03:12.41 | VolVE | For the love of monkies, can anyone tell me how to get parted to print ou the unused/unpartitioned space on a disk? I'm trying to resize a partition but I've no idea what specific value to tell parted to change it to... |
| 03:13.11 | unfo | VolVE: I would suggest qtparted or gparted instead but then abrotman would have to kill me. :) |
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| 03:13.32 | VolVE | unfo: sadly I don't have X on this server... :-/ |
| 03:13.33 | orangey | hmm. how would I get these guys into my dpkg sources list? |
| 03:13.35 | orangey | http://people.debian.org/~mpitt/packages/sarge-backports/ |
| 03:13.46 | orangey | would I do 'deb http://people.debian.org/~mpitt/packages/sarge-backports/ /' ? |
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| 03:13.59 | unfo | VolVE: oh :/ |
| 03:14.15 | VolVE | I'm getting quite frustrated and wishing I'd used lvm |
| 03:14.17 | VolVE | :( |
| 03:14.19 | peterS | orangey: probably end with ./ rather than / but otherwise that sounds ok |
| 03:14.58 | orangey | peterS: thank you |
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| 03:15.08 | VolVE | and cfdisk says "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap" which is a non-issue according to Google so I can't use that either... gah |
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| 03:16.16 | unfo | VolVE: try reading carefully: help mkpart :) |
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| 03:16.38 | dude_ | anyone using sun servers for openbsd? |
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| 03:16.50 | unfo | dude_: wrong channel. try #openbsd |
| 03:17.24 | unfo | dude_: you can learn more about IRC at www.irchelp.org :) |
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| 03:17.46 | VolVE | unfo: 'help mkpart' doesn't seemt to have any entries |
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| 03:17.55 | unfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.58 | dude_ | unfo: opps |
| 03:17.59 | unfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.02 | unfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.41 | VolVE | and that's for the mkpart command (which I don't have) ? |
| 03:19.08 | unfo | VolVE: did help mkpart not work on your machine? i am using parted 1.6.25-something. |
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| 03:19.30 | VolVE | I have 1.6.21 |
| 03:19.33 | VolVE | via apt today |
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| 03:19.46 | VolVE | help: no help topics match `mkpart'. |
| 03:19.47 | VolVE | :( |
| 03:19.48 | unfo | VolVE: i assume Debian Stable parted can create partitions too but am not sure. |
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| 03:20.08 | unfo | VolVE: try the main help, or see the docs. |
| 03:20.22 | VolVE | main help |
| 03:20.23 | VolVE | ? |
| 03:20.27 | unfo | VolVE: type: help |
| 03:20.39 | dude_ | anyone know the command to find what channel an user is in? I googled and cant find the command |
| 03:20.55 | unfo | VolVE: the documentation for everything is in /usr/share/doc. |
| 03:20.58 | VolVE | help is just bash help |
| 03:21.06 | peterS | dude_: do you have anything debian-related to discuss, or do you intend to be off-topic until you leave? |
| 03:21.07 | VolVE | ugh, so, this is a nightmare then |
| 03:21.15 | unfo | VolVE: go into parted, then type help. also, there is a parted LiveCD. |
| 03:21.15 | VolVE | wtf didn't I just use lvm? :_( |
| 03:21.27 | VolVE | ah |
| 03:21.29 | VolVE | oops |
| 03:21.39 | dude_ | peterS: oh im using debian server and need know is sun servers will be adequate, |
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| 03:21.56 | peterS | dude_: you just asked about openbsd. then you asked about IRC features. do you have anything debian-related to discuss? |
| 03:21.57 | unfo | dude_: you said "openbsd". |
| 03:22.28 | dude_ | peterS: i run both. easy boys, down boys |
| 03:22.31 | VolVE | sorry, help is there, but 1.6.21 doesn't mention percentages, just megabytes :-/ |
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| 03:22.46 | peterS | dude_: do you have anything debian-related to discuss? note that I'm not asking if you run debian. that's quite a different question. |
| 03:22.47 | unfo | VolVE: does it have =-1s? |
| 03:23.09 | VolVE | no "START and END are in megabytes. Negative values count from the end of the disk." |
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| 03:23.26 | dude_ | ls |
| 03:23.30 | unfo | VolVE: try a negative value. I dunno which. -0 maybe? -1? |
| 03:23.35 | unfo | dude_: you are spamming. |
| 03:23.44 | VolVE | maybe I'll just install parted from their site... ;) |
| 03:23.59 | unfo | dude_: visit www.irchelp.org or download X-Chat and join channel #xchat for help. |
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| 03:24.27 | wireddd | should I run my firewall/routing script with post-up in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 03:24.46 | peterS | wireddd: that's as good a place as any |
| 03:24.49 | ben_h | wireddd: iirc it worked for me |
| 03:24.58 | dude_ | like I said |
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| 03:25.03 | peterS | post-up is just called 'up', though, I believe |
| 03:25.31 | peterS | dude_: what is like you said? so far you've said nothing of substance except, in effect, "oh, I run debian, so that gives me the right to ask off-topic questions in a debian forum" |
| 03:26.01 | servus | So, ham sandwich or PB&J while Debian boots? |
| 03:26.03 | wireddd | what will happen when I get a new ip address from dhcp, does the interface go down and then come back up, rerunning the script? |
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| 03:26.21 | unfo | dude_: do not press Enter after half-sentences, this is IRC, and you are filling up the whole screen. :) servus: PB&J, it's healthier. |
| 03:26.44 | peterS | wireddd: I think it does |
| 03:27.12 | ben_h | wireddd: you could put an entry in your firewall script like |
| 03:27.32 | unfo | servus: home or server? if home, have you looked into software suspend? |
| 03:27.38 | ben_h | echo "`date`: interface came back up" >> ~/eth0.log |
| 03:27.43 | ben_h | or something, that'll tell you for sure :) |
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| 03:27.55 | servus | unfo: Non-sequiturs are meant to remain as discrete sequences in time. |
| 03:28.07 | unfo | servus: too bad :P |
| 03:28.27 | servus | It's a meat loaf sandwich, anyway. |
| 03:28.42 | ben_h | what's a PB&J? |
| 03:28.53 | peterS | servus: and there's time to eat it? debian only takes a minute or so to boot, unless you're doing some serious fscking |
| 03:28.54 | unfo | meat loaf contains ketchup. is ketchup a vegetable? ben_h: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/PBJ |
| 03:28.59 | ben_h | or should I try #lunch ;) |
| 03:29.01 | peterS | ben_h: peanut butter and jelly sandwich |
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| 03:29.28 | ben_h | lol, as i tried to click the wpedia link the window scrolled and i joined #lunch instead |
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| 03:29.42 | unfo | ben_h: haha |
| 03:30.04 | ben_h | oh, what? no one else in #lunch? useless |
| 03:30.21 | peterS | we all eat nothing but junk food. no need for actual formal lunches. |
| 03:30.25 | unfo | there's an excellent article on Tiffen (sp? Tiffin?) in Wikipedia. |
| 03:30.38 | unfo | anyone here from india? |
| 03:30.52 | peterS | hairy_potter is, but I haven't seen him here in ages |
| 03:30.56 | wireddd | I don't eat lunch, I eat dinner twice |
| 03:31.29 | ben_h | huh. never heard of tiffin before |
| 03:31.43 | unfo | they have these people whose job is to deliver hot lunch, and it's a logistical nightmare, but they manage it perfectly. one news article compared the process to packet switching. tiffin is a meal eaten in india. |
| 03:32.01 | ben_h | that's awesome |
| 03:32.13 | unfo | they deliver hundreds of thousands of hot lunches to their recipients, all at 12:30 on the dot. |
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| 03:33.17 | unfo | I'm surprised there aren't more ppl from India on IRC. |
| 03:33.27 | unfo | there're a lot on Wikipedia. |
| 03:33.39 | servus | ( That's the last time I mention lunch foods in #debian ) |
| 03:33.45 | unfo | servus: :) |
| 03:35.04 | stoned | here |
| 03:35.25 | peterS | servus: even to discuss spam? |
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| 03:35.28 | unfo | !spam |
| 03:35.28 | dpkg | spam is probably a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
| 03:35.43 | stoned | i have tried spam |
| 03:35.51 | stoned | and it is nasty |
| 03:35.57 | peterS | did it enlarge your penis, at least? |
| 03:36.01 | stoned | nope |
| 03:36.04 | unfo | "spam is probably a preferred environment"? what? |
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| 03:38.13 | irina | OK, I am back. In my agony to make something work - The RW issue is not Solved in Debian. I installed K3B but is still useless for RW. I found out that I have to install udfutils. Now another agony, how the heck I should configure it? I wonder why Debian is not installed by default with so basic features ? Any clue how to make this RW work? |
| 03:38.55 | unfo | some even like deep fried Mars bars. |
| 03:39.11 | unfo | My mom likes peanut butter and green pepper sandwiches. |
| 03:39.49 | peterS | that's enough about lunch. you'll either make us hungry or make us puke, if you all keep it up |
| 03:39.56 | jetscreamer | rw works fine here with k3b |
| 03:39.58 | wireddd | whats the command that adds a script to a run level? |
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| 03:40.05 | unfo | !update-rc.d |
| 03:40.06 | dpkg | [update-rc.d] used to manipulate what's loaded when a system boots up. Also use it instead of deleting symlinks by hand Example to add: 'update-rc.d dhcpd defaults 90'. Example to remove: 'update-rc.d -f dhcpd remove', or read "man update-rc.d" for a good intro to Debian's boot process, or see rcconf |
| 03:40.06 | peterS | wireddd: update-rc.d |
| 03:40.16 | jetscreamer | irina: did you try the k3bsetup script |
| 03:40.29 | unfo | !sandwich peterS |
| 03:40.44 | unfo | !beer peterS |
| 03:40.53 | unfo | :) |
| 03:40.57 | peterS | I begin to see why abrotman doesn't think unfo is a particularly valuable asset to our channel |
| 03:41.05 | unfo | peterS: im just tired. |
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| 03:41.19 | jetscreamer | real men dont ned excuses |
| 03:41.20 | stoned | peterS, I thought it was obvious long ago |
| 03:41.23 | jetscreamer | need |
| 03:41.27 | coywolf | my postfix doesn't recevie mail, anyone can help me debug it with telnet? |
| 03:41.31 | gravity | Who's Ned Excuses? :-) |
| 03:41.49 | irina | Jetscreamer: no I just went to all setup options, but did not run the script. However the bottom line is whether in Debian Linux we are able to read a previously UDF RW formated DVD. |
| 03:41.49 | peterS | gravity: real men don't know |
| 03:41.50 | stoned | probably some poor guy with weird last name |
| 03:41.53 | gravity | heh |
| 03:42.04 | jetscreamer | does anybody remember stone's old nick? |
| 03:42.13 | wireddd | !beer dpkg |
| 03:42.14 | jetscreamer | err stoned's |
| 03:42.16 | samuel | anyone know what this means? "You also need a link to your 32bit linker in the /lib path. Change in to directory /lib and create a link to the 32bit linker library of your chroot: (The name of the 64bit linker is ld-linux-x86-64.so.2)" |
| 03:42.48 | jetscreamer | it might have been cartoon based |
| 03:42.59 | peterS | samuel: yes, I know what it means. if it were my machine, I'd know what to do there. but since it isn't, I don't know where your ld-linux.so.2 file is |
| 03:43.01 | jetscreamer | or song/music |
| 03:43.56 | irina | OK thanks guys, I am going to reboot, hopefully somehow the udfutils will be of some use |
| 03:43.56 | stoned | first of all, I am not whoever you think I am, secondly you always try to start shit with me based on that assumption. Let it fucking go |
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| 03:44.15 | unfo | coywolf: telnet is insecure, and offering people root privileges on your machine is especially insecure. may I ask, are you at home or work? |
| 03:44.16 | jetscreamer | see that's how i know it's you. i started no shit. |
| 03:44.32 | coywolf | unfo, i mean telnet ip 25 |
| 03:44.45 | stoned | I don't make things up, I noticed you did that the other day too, told me I sucked, when I've never spoken to you |
| 03:44.46 | unfo | coywolf: ah. sorry |
| 03:44.56 | jetscreamer | anyway, no biggie |
| 03:44.58 | stoned | I never even addressed you |
| 03:45.00 | stoned | its ok man |
| 03:45.01 | samuel | peterS, i already have a link there called exactly that, should i overwrite it? |
| 03:45.04 | stoned | no problem |
| 03:45.43 | peterS | samuel: no clue, I don't know the state of your machine. you need a working /lib/ld-linux.so.2 inside your chroot. how you get to that point is between you and your filesystem |
| 03:46.43 | Supaplex | I'm glad you're not to unfo. ;) |
| 03:47.22 | unfo | !debian-amd64 |
| 03:47.36 | stoned | oh ffs, man just /msg dpkg |
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| 03:48.03 | unfo | !debian-amd64 is the official channel for discussing debian on AMD64 systems. /join #debian-amd64 |
| 03:48.03 | dpkg | okay, unfo |
| 03:48.23 | jamuraa | anyone know a decent console program to paste images together, like one left of the other? |
| 03:48.29 | unfo | stoned: i assumed there was such a factoid and that it'd point samuel there. |
| 03:48.50 | Supaplex | !assume |
| 03:48.50 | dpkg | [assume] the mother of all mistakes and (ASS - U - ME): makes an ass of you and makes an ass of me |
| 03:49.02 | Supaplex | I love that one. :) |
| 03:49.02 | unfo | jamuraa: imagemagick's montage tool. see the manpage. |
| 03:49.06 | coywolf | postix is listening on 127.0.0.1 only by default? |
| 03:49.29 | jamuraa | unfo: hmm, on first look it didn't seem like it would do that - seemed like a gallery program. I'll take a second look |
| 03:49.30 | Supaplex | there is no postix. |
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| 03:49.51 | unfo | jamuraa: you want to create a panorama? |
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| 03:53.10 | jamuraa | unfo: yes, but the (really short) manpage seemed to indicate that montage was for making galleries |
| 03:53.20 | jamuraa | unfo: I'm on the right track, montage will do what I want, thanks |
| 03:53.53 | coywolf | postfix/smtpd[39071]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: No such file or directory |
| 03:54.01 | unfo | jamuraa: oh. maybe try to search for "panorama" or "panoramic" or "stitch" or "stitcher" or "stitching" at www.freshmeat.net |
| 03:54.10 | peterS | coywolf: sounds like it's time to run newaliases |
| 03:54.31 | coywolf | petemc, all MTA requires /et/aliases.db ? |
| 03:54.42 | peterS | coywolf: no, but postfix apparently does in your configuration |
| 03:55.00 | coywolf | peterS, or most MTA require? |
| 03:55.34 | peterS | coywolf: aliases.db is an implementation detail. Debian MTAs are set up to use the plain text file /etc/aliases by default. some of them require that this be compiled into another form, using the 'newaliases' command. |
| 03:56.01 | coywolf | petemc, i find i have /etc/mail/aliases.db |
| 03:56.18 | peterS | coywolf: then it's time to figure out why your postfix config thinks you should have /etc/aliases.db instead |
| 03:56.22 | coywolf | petemc, seems my postfix dosn't find aliases.db |
| 03:56.23 | peterS | also, I'm not petemc |
| 03:56.36 | coywolf | oh, sorry peterS |
| 03:59.02 | maheem | how configure source.list for getting non-free packages |
| 03:59.11 | maheem | for etch |
| 03:59.27 | peterS | apt-setup |
| 03:59.39 | unfo | maheem: etch is unsupported. if you were using sarge, more people would help you. sorry. :/ |
| 03:59.42 | maheem | don't work in etch |
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| 03:59.58 | maheem | thanx unfo |
| 03:59.58 | unfo | maheem: etch is unsupported. try sarge. |
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| 04:00.05 | peterS | unfo: the answer is the same, though. if you don't know it, you can always just ... say nothing |
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| 04:00.23 | pipeline | maheem: "man sources.list" may help you. There are many examples. |
| 04:00.25 | unfo | peterS: fine. |
| 04:00.26 | peterS | maheem: if you don't have apt-setup, add the word 'non-free' to the end of the line that starts with 'deb ' in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:00.50 | maheem | thanx peterS |
| 04:01.18 | rxed | I have two network cards that are connected to two different networks. How to I tell the system to use only eth0? |
| 04:01.25 | peterS | hmmm, thunderstorm. I wonder if I'll lose my uptime again. |
| 04:01.34 | rxed | oh, these two cards have two different IP's. |
| 04:01.46 | redd4 | how can I see my 3 partitions, I want to know which hda # is sarge |
| 04:01.57 | redd4 | its 5 or 7 |
| 04:01.59 | peterS | rxed: the 'auto' line in /etc/network/interfaces - make sure only eth0 is in that line (well, and 'lo', that should always be there) |
| 04:02.05 | unfo | redd4: cfdisk |
| 04:02.08 | redd4 | ty |
| 04:02.25 | rxed | peterS: I need both network cards. |
| 04:02.39 | peterS | rxed: you just got done saying you only wanted the system to use one. make up your mind. |
| 04:02.40 | rxed | peterS: in other words, I don't want to kill eth1. I need it. |
| 04:02.48 | rxed | peterS: that is correct. |
| 04:02.51 | maheem | thanx people. all works |
| 04:03.20 | peterS | rxed: so, if you only want to use one, you edit /etc/network/interfaces to tell the system only to bring the one interface up |
| 04:03.23 | rxed | peterS: eth0 is what I want to use for email, browsing etc. eth1 is my wireless that I'm just monitoring, but don't want to use. |
| 04:03.48 | rxed | peterS: I need eth1. I need to monitor its traffic. |
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| 04:04.02 | rxed | peterS: but I don't want to use it for browsing etc. |
| 04:04.22 | peterS | I suppose what you want to do, then, is remove the routing information involving eth1, after bringing it up. that can be done with 'up route del...' commands in the interfaces file |
| 04:04.57 | rxed | peterS: hrmm... what is the man page for that? |
| 04:05.04 | wireddd | rxed, or if eth1 is fixed ip, just don't give it a gateway |
| 04:05.21 | peterS | 'man route' to learn how to use the route command, I guess. putting 'up' hooks into the interfaces file is documented in 'man 5 interfaces' |
| 04:05.40 | orangey | how do I disable a service from starting? |
| 04:05.43 | orangey | dpkg_on or something? |
| 04:05.52 | peterS | yeah, the other option is just not to give eth1 even an IP address. that can be managed via the interfaces file too. without an IP address, you can't really send traffic through it |
| 04:05.57 | peterS | orangey: update-rc.d |
| 04:06.19 | rxed | wireddd: It's not a static IP, but I guess I could ifconfig it without a GW, right? |
| 04:06.21 | peterS | orangey: or just poke around in /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc2.d manually |
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| 04:06.37 | rxed | wireddd: after I get an IP address that is. |
| 04:06.38 | wireddd | rxed, yeah |
| 04:06.46 | no0ke | i need an audio burner like k3b |
| 04:07.04 | rxed | wireddd, peterS; thanks. |
| 04:07.06 | wireddd | no0ke, have you tried k3b? |
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| 04:08.29 | datrus | hello. can anyone pleaser tell me how to list all mounter filesystems and their type ? |
| 04:08.39 | sussudio | datrus: mount |
| 04:08.58 | datrus | mount doesnt show the type... |
| 04:09.08 | no0ke | wireddd: hell yes |
| 04:09.14 | sussudio | yes it does. |
| 04:09.18 | sussudio | /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 04:09.29 | no0ke | wireddd: k3b doesn't overburn |
| 04:09.40 | junix | is there a problem with vsftp in unstable??? |
| 04:10.33 | datrus | ok i forgot but i'm on a macosx machine, perhaps it's different than on debian |
| 04:10.50 | ice_1963 | k3b is good but kde is slow |
| 04:10.53 | chealer9 | junix: please consult the BTS |
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| 04:12.28 | cam | is it a kernel option that allows automounting of USB key for instance ? |
| 04:12.31 | clarity_ | hey... my box keeps hanging on boot saying "cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff" |
| 04:12.40 | clarity_ | any clue what's wrong? |
| 04:12.55 | clarity_ | with the 2.6.18-1 kernel |
| 04:13.00 | clarity_ | it didn't do this with 2.4 |
| 04:13.07 | wireddd | no0ke, k3b DOES support overburning |
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| 04:14.15 | nica939 | testing the mini out hehe downloading 1080p videos |
| 04:14.21 | nica939 | see how well it works compared to osx |
| 04:14.22 | Mr-5150 | I have an rpm file that I want to install how would I do this using alien? |
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| 04:14.35 | GhostXz | heya, anyone know how id setup wireless on my laptop? |
| 04:14.46 | wireddd | no0ke, settings -> Configure K3b -> Writing -> Adanced tab |
| 04:15.47 | Mr-5150 | I have an rpm file that I want to install how would I do this using alien??? anybody? |
| 04:15.59 | tilrman | clarity_: i think cs stands for card services aka pcmcia . . . sounds like you might need to pass a kernel parameter to have it not probe (assuming you aren't on a laptop), but i dont know what it would be offhand |
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| 04:16.32 | clarity_ | I'm on a laptop |
| 04:16.37 | ben_h | so am i |
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| 04:16.44 | GhostXz | clarity_, do you have wireless setup ;]? |
| 04:16.59 | wireddd | Mr-5150, why not just get a .deb of it? |
| 04:17.22 | Mr-5150 | its the only in rmp |
| 04:17.24 | Mr-5150 | rpm* |
| 04:17.29 | dli | Mr-5150, or get source |
| 04:17.31 | clarity_ | GhostXz: what card do you have? |
| 04:17.32 | wireddd | what is it? |
| 04:17.36 | ben_h | Mr-5150: what's the app? |
| 04:17.45 | GhostXz | clarity_, its built in. |
| 04:17.58 | clarity_ | what kind of laptop do you have? |
| 04:17.59 | Mr-5150 | its a trial version of limewire |
| 04:18.00 | ben_h | GhostXz: i.e. what chipset is it |
| 04:18.07 | GhostXz | one sec~ |
| 04:18.09 | Mr-5150 | its in rpm |
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| 04:18.21 | clarity_ | use lspci and dmesg to try to figure out what card you have |
| 04:18.42 | clarity_ | then you need to modprobe the appropriate kernel module |
| 04:18.48 | Mr-5150 | i installed alien already |
| 04:19.02 | ice_1963 | limewire a waste time |
| 04:19.03 | GhostXz | 0000:06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) |
| 04:19.22 | ben_h | air force one? wtf |
| 04:19.33 | ben_h | bloody marketing cretins |
| 04:19.42 | GhostXz | its broadcom >_> |
| 04:19.46 | wireddd | Mr-5150, here is a how-to http://linox.be/wiki/index.php?n=Linux.LimeWireOnDebian |
| 04:19.56 | Mr-5150 | wow thanks |
| 04:20.01 | Mr-5150 | :) |
| 04:20.03 | clarity_ | google bcm4318 |
| 04:20.11 | GhostXz | kay. |
| 04:20.16 | ben_h | Mr-5150: if what you're looking for is a good p2p app, i suggest gtk-gnutella |
| 04:20.22 | clarity_ | and look to see if anyone explains what module to load |
| 04:20.27 | clarity_ | or what module you need |
| 04:20.32 | ben_h | Mr-5150: as a general rule, anything that only comes in an rpm is crap |
| 04:20.33 | ben_h | :) |
| 04:20.35 | Mr-5150 | ohh cool |
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| 04:21.30 | Darthmike | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:22.02 | ben_h | too much :) |
| 04:22.29 | Darthmike | oll |
| 04:22.30 | Darthmike | lol |
| 04:22.31 | wireddd | about 600 a month |
| 04:22.53 | ben_h | brb |
| 04:22.59 | Supaplex | sure you will. |
| 04:23.01 | clarity_ | how do you stop CS from starting |
| 04:23.02 | redphoenix1 | linux cant play 1080p videos?!!?! |
| 04:23.21 | wireddd | no because linux is a kernel |
| 04:23.28 | redphoenix1 | i know hat |
| 04:23.29 | redphoenix1 | hehe |
| 04:23.30 | redphoenix1 | ok |
| 04:23.36 | Darthmike | wiredd, reaklly? |
| 04:23.41 | redphoenix1 | mplayer and vlc cant play 1080p videos! |
| 04:24.00 | GhostXz | clarity_, okay i set it up, but now how do i pick my router? |
| 04:24.20 | clarity_ | use iwconfig <device> essid <key> |
| 04:24.27 | clarity_ | or ssid rather |
| 04:24.35 | clarity_ | to get on different networks |
| 04:24.47 | clarity_ | also you can use iwconfig to specify Ap's mac address if you need to do that |
| 04:24.52 | GhostXz | so, iwconfig wlan0 myroutername mywepkey? |
| 04:24.59 | clarity_ | no no |
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| 04:25.09 | clarity_ | iwconfig wlan0 essid <your ssid> |
| 04:25.13 | GhostXz | okay. |
| 04:25.16 | clarity_ | iwconfig wlan0 wep <wep> |
| 04:25.22 | clarity_ | I believe it's wep |
| 04:25.23 | Mr-5150 | alright i'm running it right now :) |
| 04:25.27 | Mr-5150 | thanks guys |
| 04:25.27 | GhostXz | well i dont use wep, i use wpk or something.. |
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| 04:25.31 | GhostXz | wpa |
| 04:25.37 | Mr-5150 | I'll give gtk-gnutella a try also |
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| 04:25.46 | Mr-5150 | I also heard apollon was also great |
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| 04:26.27 | GhostXz | brb im going to reboot. |
| 04:26.32 | shawn_home | its good to be home again ;-) |
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| 04:26.45 | gravity | heh |
| 04:26.59 | sussudio | are realtek 8029's just really shitty NICs or what? |
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| 04:35.22 | michael117 | I'm working on configuring apache2 with php5 and ruby and things seem to be going well until I tried doing a test phpinfo() page and get this: http://mglad.homeip.net/phpinfo.php where it only renders the text but doesn't interpret it |
| 04:36.01 | chealer9 | michael117: is libapache2-mod-php5 installed? |
| 04:36.12 | michael117 | yes |
| 04:36.36 | michael117 | I had to go through a lot of weird stuff but aptitude shows it as being installed |
| 04:37.35 | michael117 | I was following the guide here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge_p5 |
| 04:41.06 | shawn_home | dpkg, bug #369160 |
| 04:41.06 | dpkg | bug #369160 can be viewed at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=#369160 |
| 04:41.19 | shawn_home | new libasound2 fixes artsd crashing |
| 04:41.38 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 369160 |
| 04:41.42 | dpkg | #369160:I[libarts1c2a] libarts1c2a: artsd crashes on startup; Sat, 27 May 2006 21:48:18 UTC |
| 04:41.46 | shawn_home | yup |
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| 04:41.55 | Guyzmo | hi |
| 04:42.14 | Guyzmo | udev does not find my /dev/ttyS0 |
| 04:42.30 | Guyzmo | I don't know exactly what's missing in order to get it working |
| 04:42.35 | epsilon | michael117: what are running, etch? |
| 04:42.45 | chealer9 | michael117: what do you have in mods-enabled? |
| 04:42.55 | Guyzmo | (maybe a kernel misconfiguration, or the bios... or anything else) |
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| 04:43.27 | Guyzmo | can anyone where shall I look for more informations |
| 04:43.31 | Guyzmo | to trackback my problem ? |
| 04:44.42 | dli | Guyzmo, do you have 8250 enabled in kernel? |
| 04:44.44 | michael117 | epsilon: I believe I'm on sarge |
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| 04:45.25 | epsilon | php5 isn't in sarge... anyway, is php stuff in /etc/apache2/mods-available? |
| 04:45.26 | Guyzmo | dli - I'm watching |
| 04:46.04 | Guyzmo | # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250 is not set |
| 04:46.08 | Guyzmo | dli - bingo |
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| 04:46.10 | Guyzmo | thanks :) |
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| 04:46.54 | michael117 | chealer9: in the mods-enabled directory I have php5.conf and php5.load |
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| 04:47.00 | dli | Guyzmo, also you have to check your bios for serial support |
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| 04:47.12 | Guyzmo | dli - right now I did not |
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| 04:47.24 | Guyzmo | but I didn't want to reboot before watching what's wrong |
| 04:47.38 | epsilon | michael117: checked in .load, if the mentioned file exists? |
| 04:47.39 | chealer9 | michael117: I recommend making sure about which Debian release you use before anything else |
| 04:48.18 | clarity_ | has anyone had any problems with pcmciautils? |
| 04:49.02 | phermans | i have an executable that is provided by an untrusted user -- i want to run this binary on the system with ability to only communicate to localhost and not be able to use any non-necessary libraries and executables (like netcat, samba, nfs, su, etc) -- how can this be accomplished? |
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| 04:49.11 | chealer9 | clarity_: please consult the BTS |
| 04:50.02 | phermans | i also don't want the user to be able to read any one else's files |
| 04:50.03 | clarity_ | what's bts? |
| 04:50.04 | epsilon | phermans: take a pc without harddrive, but with a CD/DVD-ROM and boot a live-linux such as knoppix |
| 04:50.18 | phermans | epsilon, no this is a production student grading machine |
| 04:50.32 | chealer9 | !tell clarity_ about bts |
| 04:50.48 | clarity_ | ic |
| 04:51.00 | MrNaz | can you use grep to filter a term OUT instead of only look for it? |
| 04:51.12 | chealer9 | MrNaz: yes (man grep) |
| 04:51.16 | phermans | it grades their code -- but i'm not quite sure how to do something like chroot, without the user physically logging in -- i need to run the executable in a sub-process that has no privs |
| 04:51.19 | epsilon | phermans: it's a mashine in production? |
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| 04:51.29 | MrNaz | ta |
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| 04:51.32 | evilgeek | phermans: i wrote a cheap ptrace thing for a programming contest environment. |
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| 04:52.00 | evilgeek | phermans: chroot is the way normal people do that, i think. though it's not quite as good. |
| 04:52.01 | phermans | evilgeek, well ptrace is going to show the calls |
| 04:52.08 | evilgeek | ptrace, not strace. |
| 04:52.10 | Halitherses | Is there a way the downgrade a testing/unstable installation to stable? |
| 04:52.22 | chealer9 | !tell Halitherses about downgrade |
| 04:52.28 | evilgeek | ptrace is this hack that exists so that people can implement debuggers. |
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| 04:53.07 | phermans | evilgeek, i understand what ptrace does |
| 04:53.12 | evilgeek | basically, i killed the process whenever the user tried to open a file, use sockets, sleep, and so on. |
| 04:53.19 | phermans | evilgeek, ahhh |
| 04:53.20 | Guyzmo | yeah it can be compiled as a kmod |
| 04:53.22 | Guyzmo | :D |
| 04:53.27 | phermans | evilgeek, how did you detect it? |
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| 04:53.44 | evilgeek | by asking ptrace to tell me whenever the program tried to make a system call. |
| 04:53.49 | darklee | how convert pdf for djvu? |
| 04:54.04 | evilgeek | i had a huge switch statement that would do various things depending on the system call. |
| 04:54.08 | phermans | evilgeek, i modified some shellcode and ran it on this machine -- and it spawned a reverse shell to me -- but i want to fix that |
| 04:54.31 | evilgeek | oh. you'd have to solve the halting problem. |
| 04:54.36 | phermans | evilgeek, will ptrace catch the shellcode too ? |
| 04:54.44 | evilgeek | no, probably not. |
| 04:54.51 | phermans | evilgeek, yeah thats why i need chroot i think |
| 04:55.02 | evilgeek | you shouldn't be running arbitrary code like that, though. |
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| 04:55.17 | phermans | evilgeek, well it's student code -- and the ouput is determined for their grade |
| 04:55.17 | MrNaz | chealer9 i'm not seeing it... |
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| 04:55.20 | g8se | any pert gurus around? |
| 04:55.25 | XYZZZ | Hello, all |
| 04:55.28 | evilgeek | it won't catch the shellcode, but it will barf if the shellcode tries to do anything. |
| 04:55.31 | phermans | evilgeek, how else would you "autograde" it ? |
| 04:55.34 | rxed | Is it possible to change Xscreensaver login screen? |
| 04:55.42 | g8se | err, that is perl gurus |
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| 04:56.07 | phermans | evilgeek, im thinking a chroot with no shell or anything |
| 04:56.13 | blax | perl no... pert yes. :-p |
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| 04:56.19 | evilgeek | what i mean is that you shouldn't be running arbitrary code and hoping to stop it from doing anything other than "intended" behaviour. |
| 04:56.23 | evilgeek | phermans: that's lame. |
| 04:56.30 | chealer9 | MrNaz: try searching for "invert" |
| 04:56.50 | evilgeek | phermans: ptrace() hacks won't stop them from giving you shellcode, it just stops them from using it to do anything. |
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| 04:56.54 | phermans | evilgeek, but isnt there some way for the Linux kernel to stop specific local users from doing some things like communicating with remote hosts/ |
| 04:56.57 | IceGuest_5 | I can add the debian unstable release packages to apt in stable right? |
| 04:57.01 | evilgeek | if you can't open files or talk on a socket, there's really no point in having shellcode. |
| 04:57.05 | evilgeek | all you can do is compute shit. |
| 04:57.13 | evilgeek | i think so, but i've never used it. |
| 04:57.22 | evilgeek | besides, i needed something finer-grained than that. |
| 04:57.22 | MrNaz | chealer9 aaah i was looking for exclude |
| 04:57.23 | phermans | evilgeek, well i think that is the proper implementation |
| 04:57.24 | MrNaz | thanks |
| 04:57.34 | phermans | evilgeek, so what did you do, grep the ptrace output ? |
| 04:57.37 | killown | how convert pdf for djvu? |
| 04:57.40 | evilgeek | dude, no. |
| 04:57.41 | evilgeek | man ptrace. |
| 04:57.52 | evilgeek | ptrace is the crazy system call. strace is the thing that uses it. |
| 04:58.03 | evilgeek | i wrote a little C program. |
| 04:58.39 | phermans | evilgeek, welll then grep the strace output ? |
| 04:58.58 | evilgeek | no. |
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| 04:59.07 | blax | ugh... has anyone successfully compiled freenx on a plateform other than i386? After getting past some archetecture specific errors such as "sa_restorer", i'm getting this: /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output/n collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 04:59.09 | evilgeek | you need to stop system calls before they happen. ptrace is good at this. |
| 04:59.25 | phermans | evilgeek, oh lol right |
| 04:59.27 | valdyn | !freenx |
| 04:59.28 | dpkg | freenx is, like, a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
| 05:00.23 | evilgeek | let me see if i can find my code. |
| 05:00.54 | shawn_home | oh, your on the XStrikeForce gravity :) |
| 05:00.57 | blax | yeah yeah yeah - that's a good bot response.. however all of that is for i386... anyone here at all that runs freenx on something other than an intel 32-bit machine? |
| 05:01.00 | gravity | I am |
| 05:01.08 | shawn_home | any experimental 7.1 packages i can play with? |
| 05:01.17 | gravity | Not yet |
| 05:01.17 | shawn_home | or a nightly build? |
| 05:01.19 | shawn_home | ok |
| 05:01.23 | gravity | I don't do nightly builds |
| 05:01.37 | gravity | It'll be ready and uploaded when it's ready |
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| 05:01.38 | IceGuest_5 | I can add the debian unstable release packages to apt in stable right? |
| 05:01.52 | valdyn | blax: those sites might provide the deb-src too, which you can build from |
| 05:01.54 | shawn_home | true enough |
| 05:01.57 | g8se | ever since I upgraded perl-base 5.8.4-8sarge3 -> 5.8.4-8sarge4, I get told "Weak references are not implemented in the version of perl" |
| 05:02.01 | simonrvn | no |
| 05:02.08 | simonrvn | IceGuest_5: no |
| 05:02.23 | evilgeek | http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~tmyklebu/happyrun.cc |
| 05:02.36 | evilgeek | (it's C++ code.) |
| 05:02.37 | Halitherses | IceGuest_5, I wouldn't. Once you get into the unstable stream you can never get back to stable. |
| 05:03.13 | simonrvn | s/he is thinking of adding sid to sarge box, not just changing the version |
| 05:03.28 | valdyn | IceGuest_5: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 05:03.29 | g8se | yet the same version of perl-base works fine on another sarge box |
| 05:03.56 | evilgeek | g8se: did you file a bug? |
| 05:04.35 | blax | valdyn: i already have the source - that's what i'm compiling and am getting all sort of errors - apparently really sloppy code - code that's not even slightly POSIX. i've fixed what i can, but still some weird errors left... (btw, i'm running an Alpha.) |
| 05:05.03 | g8se | evilgeek: not yet. I'm not sure I don't have a cpan thing installed that might be complicating things. |
| 05:05.04 | killown | anybody know any pdf converter for linux? |
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| 05:05.59 | valdyn | blax: that is not the same source really, deb-src provides the upstream source + debian fixes + scripts to build a debian package + dependencies |
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| 05:06.34 | valdyn | blax: maybe that compiles on alpha, maybe not, i dont know, worth a try |
| 05:07.33 | blax | i've looked at the debian resources - they are only available for i386 and amd64... that's why i went to the source for the source |
| 05:08.10 | evilgeek | phermans: is that of any use? |
| 05:08.28 | simonrvn | what valdyn dexcribed is what's commonly called the source package |
| 05:08.32 | simonrvn | desc* |
| 05:09.07 | phermans | evilgeek, possibly |
| 05:09.51 | phermans | evilgeek, i guess i dont know enough to write a filter of the system calls, because i want to allow local networking, but not remote (think spawn reverse shell) |
| 05:10.25 | phermans | evilgeek, however some student projects require localhost communication |
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| 05:12.11 | clarity_ | is there a way to search for packages with apt-get? |
| 05:12.43 | gravity | clarity_: apt-cache search |
| 05:12.53 | phermans | clarity_, or use aptitude search |
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| 05:19.57 | blax | urk... so does anyone know of a better network/channel to discuss freenx compiling on linux? |
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| 05:25.38 | XYZZZ | Blax, I wish I could help you out, but I can't |
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| 05:28.44 | redphoenix1 | ok |
| 05:28.56 | redphoenix1 | 1080p video plays better in linux then osx |
| 05:28.57 | clarity_ | hmm... what do I specify in the /etc/network/interfaces file to have the wifi card connect to the any essid? |
| 05:29.15 | redphoenix1 | the cpu usage is around 50-60% |
| 05:29.18 | nkuttler | clarity_: man iwconfig |
| 05:29.23 | redphoenix1 | and on osx it is 80-90% |
| 05:29.38 | redphoenix1 | linux 1 osx 0 |
| 05:30.00 | evilgeek | phermans: oh, that's a bitch. |
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| 05:30.52 | deadcat | is it me or is gphoto2 sucking again? jesus that software is buggy.. |
| 05:32.24 | deadcat | nevermind. root can! )= |
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| 05:32.44 | deadcat | nope. 50% |
| 05:33.31 | jair | hey guys, I am sorry but I have a super nasty spyware on my pc and I am trying to find a good "removal" software |
| 05:33.41 | jair | I know I should put the live cd before browse the web :( |
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| 05:33.55 | deadcat | jair: linux dont have spyware. |
| 05:33.59 | jair | windows is so stupid delicate and vulnerable |
| 05:34.02 | jair | haha |
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| 05:34.20 | evilgeek | deadcat: there's no reason why it can't. |
| 05:34.21 | elPepo | hi friends. |
| 05:34.24 | deadcat | jair: if thats a windows problem why not try #windows ? |
| 05:34.25 | nkuttler | jair: try adaware |
| 05:34.38 | jair | look we as Linux users should be very lucky that is not yet stupid people creating that can of stuff to affect Linux |
| 05:34.50 | jair | nkuttler, I do not think so |
| 05:34.57 | jair | this thing is worst that that |
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| 05:34.59 | deadcat | jair: there still need a stupid linux user to get spyware |
| 05:35.00 | evilgeek | jair: you are in the wrong channel. |
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| 05:35.19 | deadcat | as evilgeek said. you in wrong channel brother |
| 05:35.21 | nkuttler | jair: well... install debian then |
| 05:35.32 | deadcat | nkuttler: i bet he dual boots (= |
| 05:35.54 | nkuttler | oh, then it's easy. rm -rf /mnt/windows |
| 05:36.10 | jair | Hey Let me tell you something this is the channel i always hang out and talk about very interesting topics |
| 05:36.12 | killown | how convert pdf files in html? |
| 05:36.22 | jair | I agree is not the channel to talk about windows stuff |
| 05:36.27 | deadcat | nkuttler: no. he dual boots, 99% time using windows, the 1% is to brag about he has linux. i love those people hahah |
| 05:36.56 | jair | but I have the idea of Linux debian users have knowledge about all systems not just one in particular |
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| 05:37.01 | jair | ok |
| 05:37.19 | jair | It is ok, i will see how can I clean that stupid windows laptop |
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| 05:37.31 | deadcat | jair: reinstall. done |
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| 05:38.00 | deadcat | jair: thats how i would do it if i have windows |
| 05:38.01 | jair | deadcat, hmm no if I reinstall you know windows will go away |
| 05:38.08 | brownie17 | should unrar be in the repos? |
| 05:38.18 | jair | but I have some info there and at least i will need ti for couple of weeks more |
| 05:38.21 | deadcat | jair: i dont |
| 05:38.22 | nkuttler | brownie17: non-free |
| 05:38.58 | jair | I know |
| 05:39.03 | servus | brownie17: Know a Figowitz? |
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| 05:39.12 | jair | I will have to create some space to put the whole info I have here |
| 05:39.12 | deadcat | jair: after the clean install. install that software schools use to keep their hds clean. i dont remember the name, but ... |
| 05:39.24 | jair | but I will do it in the next couple of weeks. |
| 05:39.25 | servus | deadcat: "Deep Freeze"? |
| 05:39.30 | chino | what do i do when the space runs out on a partition and you remove files but yet the partition still says its 100% full |
| 05:39.36 | jair | really? |
| 05:39.38 | jair | hmm |
| 05:39.38 | brownie17 | servus, lol, what the heck? |
| 05:40.03 | nkuttler | chino: what is filling the disk? |
| 05:40.10 | servus | brownie17: That was about as far from a yes-or-no response as one could have come. Oh well. |
| 05:40.11 | chino | it was 2 gigs of logs |
| 05:40.15 | chino | i removed them |
| 05:40.22 | chino | df -h still says 100% usage |
| 05:40.24 | chino | so does du |
| 05:40.34 | deadcat | chino: obviously you're not doing it right. |
| 05:40.39 | chino | wha t? |
| 05:40.58 | chino | so waht do i do then ? |
| 05:41.16 | deadcat | chino: i dont know your partition, so i dont know |
| 05:41.27 | chino | what do you mean ? |
| 05:41.36 | TraceGreen | Hello , where can i set my console number? |
| 05:41.36 | deadcat | which partition? |
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| 05:41.41 | chino | /var |
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| 05:41.46 | deadcat | TraceGreen: tty ? |
| 05:41.46 | chino | /dev/hda6 |
| 05:41.58 | chino | size 2.8 gigs |
| 05:42.02 | deadcat | !enter |
| 05:42.03 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 05:42.10 | chino | lol ok |
| 05:42.11 | TraceGreen | deadcat, yeah |
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| 05:43.01 | brownie17 | anyone know an equivilant in the repos for unrar? |
| 05:43.21 | deadcat | brownie17: rar ? |
| 05:43.22 | nkuttler | brownie17: i don't think there is. /msg dpkg non-free |
| 05:43.30 | redphoenix1 | how do i fine out what framerates mplayer is running at/ |
| 05:43.38 | johnsu01 | brownie17: there is unrar-free |
| 05:43.46 | deadcat | redphoenix1: #mplayer |
| 05:43.48 | elPepo | I wanna make a bandwidth control: which is better HTB or CBQ? |
| 05:43.51 | johnsu01 | brownie17: but it's not full |
| 05:43.52 | redphoenix1 | ok hehe sory |
| 05:43.55 | redphoenix1 | sorry* |
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| 05:44.10 | deadcat | redphoenix1: no need to be sorry. its just we dont know (= |
| 05:44.12 | servus | brownie17: If you add " non-free" to the end of each line in /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update, the repository should contain unrar,. |
| 05:44.24 | brownie17 | servus, is this illegal? |
| 05:44.32 | redphoenix1 | oki :D |
| 05:45.04 | servus | No, it's not illegal as far as I know; the source code is just not available, or not licensed under terms the Debian maintainers find acceptable. |
| 05:45.30 | brownie17 | servus, oh okay, i get it. |
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| 05:46.51 | ccamacho | how can I completely remove gnome from my system? |
| 05:46.59 | deadcat | !remove gnome |
| 05:46.59 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 05:47.29 | deadcat | ccamacho: run tasksel and uncheck desktop, see if that works or not. |
| 05:47.40 | ccamacho | ok... thanks |
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| 05:49.01 | brownie17 | servus, i did it, and i'm not getting some error i don't understand. will yo give me hand? can i post it in #flood? |
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| 05:49.40 | servus | Erk, I suppose I can take a look. |
| 05:49.50 | ic3man05 | will debian auto restart if it sees the hardware is unstable? |
| 05:51.05 | Supaplex | Why is dhcpd3 not assigning a 10.40.x.x address but instead a 10.0.x.x address? http://rafb.net/paste/results/pKnneC25.html |
| 05:52.11 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:52.12 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 05:52.40 | deadcat | ic3man05: that dont make sense. |
| 05:52.50 | deadcat | why would it auto restart? what the f |
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| 05:54.08 | brownie17 | deadcat, i'm sure a simple no would have sufficed. |
| 05:54.15 | deadcat | brownie17: no |
| 05:54.20 | brownie17 | deadcat, no need to make him feel like an idiot! |
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| 05:54.28 | deadcat | brownie17: i dont have to |
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| 05:54.47 | bintut | http://pastebin.com/746218 anyone? |
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| 05:58.40 | brownie17 | servus, see my post in #flood just now? |
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| 05:59.07 | ic3man05 | deadcat: well it decided to do it to me, I'm trying to oc my processor |
| 05:59.21 | ic3man05 | deadcat: it did it while running mprime for about 2 minutes |
| 05:59.38 | ic3man05 | deadcat: it actually when into init and shutdown everything |
| 05:59.38 | deadcat | ic3man05: sounds like your hardware is unstable. not debian |
| 06:00.11 | ic3man05 | deadcat: I know it is, I'm trying to get my processor going faster because its not worth going from a 3000+ to a 3200+ |
| 06:00.24 | tralala | perhpas your cpu got overheated and the system was shut down because of that |
| 06:00.37 | ic3man05 | deadcat: for example windows will auto restart if its getting to many errors |
| 06:00.43 | chino | where is javascript usually placed in the filesystem ? |
| 06:00.53 | ic3man05 | 52C on an athlon 3000+ mobile |
| 06:01.04 | XYZZZ | Any one else listen to Coast to Coast AM? |
| 06:01.04 | chino | omg i mena jdk |
| 06:01.12 | tralala | chino: javascript interpretes are built into the browsers |
| 06:01.18 | deadcat | chino: filesystem uses javascript now? |
| 06:01.19 | chino | lol i know im sorry |
| 06:01.32 | Vasistha | I think he meant, where does jdk lie in the file system |
| 06:01.37 | chino | yes |
| 06:01.39 | tralala | chino: dpkg -L jdk-package-name |
| 06:01.40 | brownie17 | ic3man05, as soon as the bios detects the hardware is overheating, debian will try to shut down to minimise hardware damage. were you watching the temp guage? |
| 06:01.52 | ic3man05 | yep I have it up always when stressing |
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| 06:01.58 | chino | i dont know what its name is |
| 06:02.04 | chino | im using my own |
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| 06:02.07 | chino | im just wondering |
| 06:02.07 | brownie17 | anyone know why i'm getting this error "Failed to fetch http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/sarge/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" |
| 06:02.10 | ic3man05 | my processor is 42C right now |
| 06:02.14 | christor | dpkg: are you here again? |
| 06:02.20 | chino | im building a chroot |
| 06:02.22 | Vasistha | chino: what do you mean, you're using your own? Did you get it from apt-get? |
| 06:02.40 | chino | no i downloaded my own jdk zip |
| 06:02.44 | tralala | brownie17: non-free is gone |
| 06:02.47 | tralala | ops, sorry |
| 06:02.54 | tralala | non-us is gone |
| 06:03.03 | ic3man05 | brownie17: I believe the processor will run upto 65-80C |
| 06:03.07 | brownie17 | tralala, ?? not following? this means i should do what? |
| 06:03.43 | brownie17 | ic3man05, it may rtun fine that high, but there is a setting in most bios's that says how hot it should go before shutdown, and you're must be exceeding that |
| 06:03.47 | tralala | brownie17: it means that the file is not there. Broken mirror? |
| 06:04.14 | brownie17 | ic3man05, this is not a debian problem, me thinks |
| 06:04.29 | brownie17 | tralala, where can i get the url of an alternative? |
| 06:04.29 | ic3man05 | brownie17: I have one sensor thats always gone wack, its at 127.5C right now but I know nothing is getting that hot |
| 06:04.41 | tralala | ic3man05: my athlon runs up to 55 when the tempreture in the room exceeds 30. Normally it runs below 50. |
| 06:04.52 | brownie17 | ic3man05, that's probably you're problem, try replacing that |
| 06:05.04 | Vasistha | chino: well you could use the unzip or gunzip tool to list the contents of the package |
| 06:05.25 | chino | Vasistha: whats a normal place thats all im asking |
| 06:05.45 | tralala | ic3man05: you will brick your system at the end. OC is not a simple nor a cheap task. |
| 06:05.51 | brownie17 | tralala, where can i get the url of an alternative mirror? |
| 06:05.59 | Halitherses | Where should the rsyncd.conf live? |
| 06:06.11 | ic3man05 | tralala, I know I've done it before i'm not inexperience I just have never seen that happen before |
| 06:06.12 | tralala | brownie17: I have no idea what debian-multimedia is and if it has any mirrors |
| 06:06.20 | deadcat | ok. i just mounted my camera via gphotofs, it has DCIM (which most of the photos and .avi are, theres also MISC and PMP dir but empty. can i rm them? |
| 06:06.23 | Vasistha | chino: /usr/lib |
| 06:06.27 | brownie17 | ic3man05, there's no point overclocking. voids warrentys and in the end gives little benefits |
| 06:06.40 | brownie17 | tralala, i don't think i just added it, i think it's there be default. i don't know |
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| 06:07.18 | tralala | brownie17: debian-multimedia?! Is this supposed to be a regular debian mirror or what? |
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| 06:07.49 | ic3man05 | brownie17, ut2004 showed a 15+ fps increase with overclocking plus I'm way out of any warrenty |
| 06:07.50 | brownie17 | tralala, got no idea. don't remeember adding it |
| 06:08.08 | shawn_home | where is the debian development channel? or this is all of them rolled into one now? |
| 06:08.15 | chino | Vasistha: where would program directories usually go ? |
| 06:08.31 | tralala | brownie17: if you don't know what it is then you don't care about it. Remove it or just ignore the error. |
| 06:08.36 | brownie17 | ic3man05, that's quite good actuallly. well no-one will give support for OCing, because it's uncharted and the parts aren't designed for it |
| 06:08.51 | Vasistha | chino: google the web for linux directory structure, you can read all about the standards |
| 06:09.00 | jaykumar | have a query regarding debian DVD downloaded by torrent,, the md5sum is not macthing but |
| 06:09.28 | jaykumar | i thing the torrent itself checks for the integrity of the downloaded file |
| 06:09.31 | ic3man05 | brownie17, Yes I understand the risk, worst comes to worst I have another processor and i'm going to be upgrading within a few months to 64bit anyways. |
| 06:09.43 | jaykumar | do i need to download it again |
| 06:09.44 | Vasistha | chino: it's not like windows. stuff gets scattered around quite a bit, but in a logical way, if you understand how it works |
| 06:09.48 | nkuttler | chino: /msg dpkg fhs |
| 06:09.57 | tralala | jaykumar: a debian DVD and the checksum is different that the one provided by debian? |
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| 06:10.36 | chino | Vasistha: i read it like a b illion times but i dont trust my self i have been using linux for a while now i know how it works i would probably just use usr/local or something but im just making a simple chroot environment |
| 06:10.40 | ic3man05 | brownie17, I was just wondering why debian restarted. |
| 06:10.42 | brownie17 | i installed a program called rarlinux from www.rarlabs.com and now i want to uninstall it. who can gelp? |
| 06:11.02 | tralala | ic3man05: because of overheating |
| 06:11.16 | Vasistha | chino: you want to know where we would advise you to put it? |
| 06:11.17 | brownie17 | ic3man05, did it keep dong it? you probably pressed the wrong button X-D |
| 06:11.23 | nkuttler | brownie17: how did you install it? |
| 06:11.23 | chino | yes |
| 06:11.28 | ic3man05 | tralala, I'm looking into that sensor but I believe its a configuration problem not temp |
| 06:11.31 | brownie17 | nkuttler, make; make install |
| 06:11.37 | nkuttler | brownie17: make uninstall |
| 06:11.43 | chino | isn't usr/local/ usually for "user" programs not "servers" |
| 06:11.50 | ic3man05 | brownie17, no I changed multiplier and voltage afterwords because it failed the test |
| 06:11.51 | Vasistha | chino: I don't know myself, I'm not one to compile stuff, I download the binaries |
| 06:12.20 | brownie17 | nkuttler, make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop |
| 06:12.22 | Vasistha | chino: /usr is for anything that's not vital to booting the system up |
| 06:12.26 | jaykumar | yes the md5sum i calculated is different than the md5sum that is being displayed on the webserver |
| 06:12.38 | nkuttler | brownie17: whatever you installed sucks |
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| 06:13.00 | brownie17 | nkuttler, agreed. any other ideas? |
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| 06:13.13 | tralala | brownie17: look at the Makefile. The install part copies files to your filesystem. Find them and delete them. |
| 06:13.22 | jaykumar | i burnt the DVD and it look fine to me!! |
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| 06:14.18 | tralala | jaykumar: you can use jigdo to download only the broken packages. It will create a new dvd image for you using the old one and downloading only what is needed (broken). |
| 06:14.33 | brownie17 | tralala, can i paste you something in #flood? |
| 06:14.48 | tralala | brownie17: use pastebin, I'm not in flood |
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| 06:16.52 | TraceGreen | Hello, where can i set tty number in linux? |
| 06:17.03 | tralala | !wayttd TraceGreen |
| 06:17.03 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, TraceGreen? |
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| 06:21.53 | brownie17 | does anyone know how to set up x-chat to automatically accept file transfers |
| 06:21.55 | ic3man05 | TraceGreen: I believe /etc/inittab |
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| 06:22.45 | chino | what is /var/lib all about ? |
| 06:22.46 | ic3man05 | TraceGreen: 8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8 |
| 06:23.03 | chino | my /var/cache is 565M !! wtf is it ? |
| 06:23.25 | chino | oh is that my apt cache ? |
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| 06:23.37 | stew | chino: all the packages you have installed are in /var/cache/apt/archives, apt-get clean will remove them |
| 06:24.50 | ic3man05 | chino: I had over 2GB of data from apt |
| 06:25.15 | chino | i had that my partition isn't big enough for that |
| 06:25.41 | tralala | chino: apt-get clean |
| 06:25.53 | chino | you know it would of been smart if htey put a sort option in du |
| 06:25.57 | chino | yea i did that allready |
| 06:26.25 | chino | cant i get logrotate to clean this up for me all the time |
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| 06:27.55 | troyme | konqueror 3.5.3 on debian sid can't save proxy settings, anyone have the same problem?? |
| 06:28.05 | tralala | chino: not exactly logrotate, but you can create a cron job |
| 06:28.25 | tralala | troyme: /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:28.34 | chino | is 170M equal to 2.1G lol |
| 06:28.56 | chino | du and df are showing incompatible results |
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| 06:29.29 | troyme | tralala: nothing happened after /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:29.45 | Azar | new desktop? ROX ? |
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| 06:29.59 | debian | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.15 | Azar | is that working on Sarge or it will come with the Etch release? |
| 06:30.23 | tralala | !tell troyme bts |
| 06:30.30 | tralala | there you go |
| 06:30.46 | tralala | bah |
| 06:31.00 | troyme | tralala: dpkg replyed :) |
| 06:31.10 | Azar | tralala: can you please send me one too? |
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| 06:31.34 | qweo | hello all |
| 06:31.37 | ic3man05 | Azar: just type /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:31.42 | tralala | Azar: you can do it yourself - /msg dpkg <your-keyword-here> |
| 06:31.56 | Azar | ic3man05: dpkg is not working for me |
| 06:32.17 | ic3man05 | !tell Azar bts |
| 06:32.39 | Azar | thanks ic3man05 now I am sure it will not work for me |
| 06:32.40 | tralala | dpkg: your factoids |
| 06:32.40 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 06:32.51 | tralala | Azar: ^^ |
| 06:32.54 | ic3man05 | Azar: Guess it doesn't like you |
| 06:32.55 | Azar | tralala: cool, thanks |
| 06:33.06 | Azar | ic3man05: no I am on his ignore |
| 06:33.14 | chino | all my logs are empty anyway |
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| 06:33.16 | ic3man05 | Azar: Why is that? |
| 06:33.20 | chino | wtf kinda shit is that ? |
| 06:33.36 | Azar | ic3man05: someone has decided I am not worth for dpkg attention |
| 06:34.44 | m77 | i'm using debian sid (kernel 2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp), udev 0.092-2, cupsys 1.1.23-15 .. i'm trying to configure a canon bjc-4550 printer, but i only get it to print garbage... any sugestions? |
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| 06:36.41 | qweo | m77: how you're configuring your printer? Over CUPS web interface? |
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| 06:37.34 | m77 | by the web interface and by the kde's print admon |
| 06:37.44 | m77 | qweo, by the web interface and by the kde's print admon |
| 06:37.45 | clarity__ | how do you reconfigure xorg? |
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| 06:38.14 | tralala | clarity__: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 06:38.18 | ic3man05 | clarity: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or xorgcfg -textmode |
| 06:38.26 | m77 | clarity_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:38.29 | tralala | ic3man05: no |
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| 06:38.43 | ic3man05 | tralala: why not? |
| 06:39.03 | tralala | because it's not the debian way, see drxx |
| 06:39.06 | wer1wer1 | I have a question about Xpress 3200 (ati) stuff? Anyone interested? |
| 06:39.29 | tralala | !ask |
| 06:39.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 06:39.52 | clarity__ | thanks. |
| 06:39.58 | stew | chino: if you want to sort: "du -ks * | sort -n" |
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| 06:40.34 | ic3man05 | tralala: that will work to, linux is about choice. |
| 06:40.45 | chino | all of a sudden my iptables script slows down the whole system when i run it and takes like 5 minutes to complete |
| 06:41.27 | tralala | ic3man05: this is not ##linux, it's #debian. In debian we have our ways of doing things and have their benefits. |
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| 06:42.32 | ic3man05 | tralala: true, I've learned one way that works and I liked it |
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| 06:43.11 | tralala | ic3man05: nothing wrong with that but if you try drxx you might like it even better |
| 06:43.12 | Azar | ic3man05: debian uses packages specially crafted , usually is not wise to just wget grab "any" package then force it in Debian system unless you experiment with sid, and expect crash |
| 06:44.00 | wer1wer1 | I am running etch. I needed the sata support. I have an ati (RD580) Xpress 3200 north bridge, and an ATI X1600 Pro. Xorg 6.9 loads fine with ati drivers 8.25.18, but all I get is a blank screen.same goes if I use an nvidia 7300 gs. Drivers load but I get a blank screen. I have xorg logs for both.... It is driveing me crazy. |
| 06:44.12 | ic3man05 | tralala: drxx looks awesome but I don't need my config file touched |
| 06:44.18 | ic3man05 | tralala: next install I'll do it |
| 06:45.54 | Azar | this sata thing freaks me out, my new box will not have sata |
| 06:45.54 | qweo_ | Anybody can help: firefox used so much memory (up to 50%),and (because modify cache settings not solved the problem) i replace it with mozilla browser.But today it's (by top stats) used 94% of memory!!! Of 1GB! Why? |
| 06:45.58 | tralala | ic3man05: if you config is manually touched drxx won't modify it |
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| 06:46.14 | wer1wer1 | They are nice to connect and disconnect :) |
| 06:46.56 | cheal | Azar: ...maybe you should blog about your new box elsewhere |
| 06:46.59 | Azar | wer1wer1: being out of time, I prefer to buy older hardware that proves to work... |
| 06:47.27 | tralala | wer1wer1: there was an option to add to the config file for the blank screen. Let mee see if I can find it again. |
| 06:47.28 | Azar | cheal: what is a blog? |
| 06:47.55 | Azar | binary log? |
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| 06:48.23 | christor | PLease Can someone help me to choice my kernel and the headers? I need it to install the NVidia drivers and the madwifi drivers |
| 06:48.56 | cheal | !tell Azar about blog |
| 06:49.09 | christor | I have already this kind of message kernel-headers-2.6.8-3-k7: Depends: kernel-headers-2.6.8-3 but it is not going to be installed |
| 06:49.21 | minerale | what is that command that shows the startup strings |
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| 06:49.24 | wer1wer1 | Azar: Same here but I wanted the optical input out put on this board.... |
| 06:49.32 | Azar | cheal thanks |
| 06:49.39 | wer1wer1 | tralala:That would be awsome. I am looking too now. |
| 06:49.44 | cheal | christor: try installing kernel-headers-2.6.8-3 |
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| 06:50.04 | cheal | minerale: you're looking for a log of the startup? |
| 06:50.07 | Azar | christor: what Debian version are you running? |
| 06:50.26 | minerale | cheal: yeah |
| 06:50.31 | christor | cheal: kernel-headers-2.6.8-3: Depends: kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 but it is not installable |
| 06:51.00 | christor | testing/unstable |
| 06:51.03 | christor | testing |
| 06:51.11 | Azar | christor: are you trying to install the nvidia driver from their website? |
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| 06:51.24 | christor | I downloaded the NVIDIA...run package |
| 06:51.33 | Azar | christor: not recommendable |
| 06:51.40 | cheal | christor: 2.6.8 is not in testing/unstable. you shouldn't use it in testing/unstable |
| 06:51.40 | christor | but I need also for the madwifi drivers |
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| 06:52.48 | cheal | minerale: did you try # dmesg; ? |
| 06:52.50 | Azar | christor: try to install the 2.6.15 kernel which works ok with etch then do nvidia the debian way, do not "download" |
| 06:53.24 | minerale | cheal: thats what I was looking for thanks |
| 06:53.40 | tralala | dpkg: ati+xorg blankscreen is <reply>Try adding the line Option "MonitorLayout" "TMDS, AUTO" to your xorg.conf file and disabling dga. |
| 06:53.40 | dpkg | okay, tralala |
| 06:53.47 | tralala | !ati+xort blankscreen |
| 06:53.52 | christor | Azar: euhh :s what is the debain way , I always download and run it |
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| 06:53.58 | tralala | !ati+xorg blankscreen |
| 06:53.58 | dpkg | Try adding the line Option "MonitorLayout" "TMDS, AUTO" to your xorg.conf file and disabling dga. |
| 06:54.16 | tralala | wer1wer1: ^^ |
| 06:54.21 | Azar | christor: it might work "your way" but is not recommendable. |
| 06:54.37 | christor | Azar: I m curious what is the other way? |
| 06:54.38 | wer1wer1 | tralala: Option "BusType" "PCI" ? |
| 06:55.07 | Azar | christor: I allways do the nvidia one-liner (ask dpkg) |
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| 06:56.03 | tralala | wer1wer1: I don't think this is a problem. |
| 06:56.26 | tralala | wer1wer1: check what dpkg said above. |
| 06:56.28 | christor | just 2 second I reboot on the 2.6.15 |
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| 06:57.02 | wer1wer1 | tralala: Not sure I follow you? |
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| 06:58.57 | christor | I m here |
| 06:59.04 | christor | so I booted on the kernel 2.6.15 |
| 06:59.27 | christor | and I try the method madwifi of dpkg ( |
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| 07:01.01 | christor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:01.05 | Azar | christor: ask dpkg why nvidia installer sucks |
| 07:01.19 | christor | Azar: Nvidia I think it s ok |
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| 07:01.30 | christor | this is the madwifi driver which is broke |
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| 07:01.31 | Azar | christor: just out of curiosity |
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| 07:02.30 | christor | dpkg: are you present? |
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| 07:02.47 | Azar | christor: /msg dpkg <yourquestion> |
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| 07:03.39 | excore | how do I delete the files that check for system clock and stuff |
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| 07:05.13 | mage | excore: huh? |
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| 07:05.33 | excore | when I boot the system if says setting system clock to hardware |
| 07:05.37 | excore | and then it freezes |
| 07:05.47 | excore | how can I go in and delete that from happening |
| 07:06.09 | mage | hwclock |
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| 07:06.34 | excore | delete that? |
| 07:06.51 | mage | yea that'd do it |
| 07:07.15 | excore | where is it and how do I do it |
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| 07:07.39 | Azar | excore: that's how you fix your things? deleting system files? |
| 07:07.39 | mage | ls /etc/rc*.d/*hwclock* |
| 07:07.51 | mage | I'd delete those links |
| 07:08.16 | mage | Azar: I was assuming broken english and that he wants to disable the hwclock stuff |
| 07:08.33 | Azar | mage: ah I see... |
| 07:08.41 | tarzeau | mage: are you mage on sf.net? |
| 07:08.58 | lunitik | mage: what you'd do to your own computer... and what you tell others in a public medium ought to be very different then... else just don't help... |
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| 07:09.10 | cam | i've recompiled my kernel, and now, when i plug an usbkey on it, It doesn't automount ... any idea ? |
| 07:09.11 | Tallu | Hmm. Is there a way for me to clear the history of typed in things in the shell? I dont know how to better put the question, heh |
| 07:09.24 | mage | tarzeau: no |
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| 07:09.51 | Azar | hi tarzeau, did you read about the new Debian desktop? ROX |
| 07:10.01 | mage | lunitik: whats wrong with suggesting removing a few links to a person that wants to delete things? |
| 07:10.04 | cam | i'm using 2.6.16.18 right now, and i'm using the testing flavor |
| 07:10.05 | lunitik | Tallu: rm ~/.bash_history |
| 07:10.18 | Tallu | lunitik: cheers |
| 07:10.27 | ic3man05 | I just built my first debian package, how can I tell where all the files went if I wasn't the creator? |
| 07:10.34 | sonic_beatnik | I got some major alsa problems. lspci -v shows "0000:01:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS" but alsaconf says no cards found. |
| 07:10.42 | tarzeau | Azar: no? where? |
| 07:10.59 | Azar | tarzeau on OS news, one sec |
| 07:11.02 | tarzeau | ic3man05: ? using debuild or so? or after installing it? |
| 07:11.29 | Azar | tarzeau: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14746 |
| 07:11.36 | lunitik | Azar: its not really a Debian desktop... they just saw fit to report someone packaging something :/ |
| 07:11.51 | sonic_beatnik | well alsa crashed with jack this morning and Ive tried everything to sort it out. 7 hours later still no sound |
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| 07:12.20 | ic3man05 | tarzeau: built using dpkg -b name.deb |
| 07:12.21 | cam | udev is installed, and usb masstorage as well; mounting the usb by hand is working .. it's just that somehow it's not automounted yet, i browsed google but can't find a solution, anyone ccould help ,? |
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| 07:12.26 | Azar | lunitik: oh I see... it would be interesting to see a new , lighter desktop somewhere, mainly when is adopted by Debian |
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| 07:12.38 | ic3man05 | tarzeau: after installing it |
| 07:12.41 | tarzeau | Azar: you know i don't like anything but OPENSTEP |
| 07:13.01 | lunitik | Azar: looks like just another GTK based desktop... maybe I missed something... one day there will be a visually pleasing GTK desktop :/ |
| 07:13.06 | ic3man05 | tarzeau: like say for example gcc debian package |
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| 07:13.31 | Azar | tarzeau: interesting, never tried/read about openstep, I only use openbox |
| 07:13.43 | lunitik | tarzeau: I don't get you... but thats fine... haha... if OpenSTEP was more like OS X, I'd probably like it more :o |
| 07:13.55 | tarzeau | Azar: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/ |
| 07:14.15 | tarzeau | lunitik: you have no idea. os x is just openstep but raped badly |
| 07:14.18 | ic3man05 | I've been using gnome because I haven't noted a performance difference yet between gnome and fluxbox |
| 07:14.23 | tarzeau | lunitik: and with some nice stuff removed |
| 07:14.26 | lunitik | Azar: you're gonna end that conversation installing the gnustep live cd tarzeau makes... just so you know... might as well get a head start |
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| 07:14.47 | Azar | what cought my eye was the "auto-mounting" feature |
| 07:14.49 | lunitik | tarzeau: like the menu mechanisms, OS X is better for that imo... |
| 07:14.50 | tarzeau | lunitik: it is so old, i should update it |
| 07:14.59 | tralala | wer1wer1: /msg dpkg ati+xorg blankscreen |
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| 07:15.06 | tarzeau | lunitik: you can have os x menus with wildmenus.bundle (and no on highres it sucks) |
| 07:15.24 | tralala | wer1wer1: let me know if it works |
| 07:15.24 | Azar | Id take in a blink tarzeau's works, I love home made stew |
| 07:15.25 | lunitik | Azar: Gnome and KDE already automount :/ |
| 07:15.29 | tarzeau | lunitik: i want to have menus where i place them, and i want to detach sub-sub-sub-menus |
| 07:15.52 | tarzeau | lunitik: that's the problem with gnome/kde. they do things which should be done at a different place |
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| 07:16.02 | wer1wer1 | tralala: It worked. Neato. |
| 07:16.07 | lunitik | tarzeau: thats fine... idk... right click menus shouldn't go... |
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| 07:16.12 | faber3 | hi everybody |
| 07:16.20 | tralala | wer1wer1: good :) |
| 07:16.25 | lunitik | tarzeau: please don't disrespect KDE... I have to go to sleep soon :( |
| 07:16.26 | Azar | lunitik: I see.. in that situation I stay with raw X, the luggage of desktops is way out of proportions, they won't fly |
| 07:16.29 | faber3 | do the openoffice debian packages refer the sun jdk installation? |
| 07:16.32 | m77 | i'm using debian sid (kernel 2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp), udev 0.092-2, cupsys 1.1.23-15 .. i'm trying to configure a canon bjc-4550 printer, but i only get it to print garbage... any sugestions? |
| 07:16.58 | tarzeau | m77: get a real printer, really |
| 07:17.10 | m77 | lol |
| 07:17.13 | Azar | m77: too old of a printer... for a new kernel |
| 07:17.18 | RvGaTe | morning |
| 07:17.21 | tralala | faber3: no, they reffer kaffe |
| 07:17.27 | tarzeau | Azar: more like the printer sucks |
| 07:17.37 | tarzeau | Azar: any printer that doesn't do postscript and has network sucks |
| 07:17.53 | faber3 | tralala: but the sun jdk is in debian i heard? "testing" also? |
| 07:17.59 | Azar | tarzeau: I used to have that printer, not bad, but worked ok only on 1996 PCs |
| 07:18.02 | lunitik | faber3: yes |
| 07:18.14 | ic3man05 | if anybody cares to test my first debian package mprime here it is: http://xaos-realms.net/data/linux/mprime_2414_i386.deb |
| 07:18.25 | tralala | faber3: in non-free only |
| 07:18.27 | faber3 | lunitik: do you have the package name? |
| 07:18.46 | wer1wer1 | tralala: Got (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "MonitorLayout" is not used..... I put it in the device section? |
| 07:18.48 | lunitik | faber3: sun-java5-jdk |
| 07:18.53 | lunitik | faber3: in non-free |
| 07:19.13 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: what does it do ? |
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| 07:19.26 | tralala | wer1wer1: and a blank screen again? |
| 07:19.28 | faber3 | lunitik: mmmhh.. i have non-free testing but cant seem to find it? |
| 07:19.32 | ic3man05 | mainly I use it for stress testing the cpu |
| 07:19.41 | Alam_Debian | what the define _REENTRANT do? |
| 07:19.53 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: Finds Mersenne prime numbers. |
| 07:19.56 | wer1wer1 | tralala: Yeah. Using the Nvidia card presently.... |
| 07:20.04 | lunitik | faber3: and in answer to your previous question, tralala is wrong... it uses gcj by default... and piggy backs suns java is it can find it (results in better performance...) |
| 07:20.11 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: usage ? |
| 07:20.11 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I couldn't find any dga stuff in there... |
| 07:20.12 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm |
| 07:20.22 | Azar | Alam_Debian: define is like tagging a certain string for later changes |
| 07:20.35 | faber3 | lunitik: but the sun-java stuff seems only to be in unstable not in testing |
| 07:20.44 | lunitik | faber3: OpenOffice.org afaik CAN'T be compiled using Kaffe correctly... (that also goes to tralala) |
| 07:20.51 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: stress test cpu for errors & finding prime numbers |
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| 07:21.01 | tralala | wer1wer1: this is for ati, you said you have an ati card. |
| 07:21.13 | lunitik | faber3: its not in testing yet... sid |
| 07:21.27 | Azar | Alam_Debian: that why is allways written in caps so say you want to replace that occurence is easy to spot it on the code |
| 07:21.28 | lunitik | faber3: likely won't get into testing either... too many people don't like the license |
| 07:21.42 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I do... I had tried another card. Both Cards give me no erros but a blank screen. |
| 07:21.56 | faber3 | lunitik: but isnt that why its in non-free? |
| 07:22.03 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: $100,000 prize for the first 10 million long digit prime number |
| 07:22.09 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I can put the ati back (and want to). |
| 07:22.17 | Alam_Debian | I know what a define is... just I see -D_REENTRANT used in sdl-config --cflags and in WINE |
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| 07:22.23 | tralala | lunitik: Installing openoffice.org2 on my amd64 debian also installed kaffe + some other free java stuff |
| 07:22.30 | lunitik | faber3: non-free still has standards... and the license really isn't nice |
| 07:22.37 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: so if i calculate the 43rd mersenne prime, i should get the same number on that page? if not, my cpu is not right :P |
| 07:22.42 | tralala | wer1wer1: try the ati one |
| 07:22.45 | lunitik | tralala: strange... never heard of that... |
| 07:23.07 | faber3 | btw: can i use mysql for free when i install a php cms system which isnt free? |
| 07:23.17 | lunitik | tralala: that isn't the case though on other arches |
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| 07:23.21 | lunitik | arch's* |
| 07:23.24 | RvGaTe | faber3: you are always free to install software that is free |
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| 07:23.36 | lunitik | faber3: umm... sure |
| 07:23.40 | cheal | faber3: ask #mysql |
| 07:23.41 | faber3 | RvGaTe: i mean of course, use the softwware? |
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| 07:23.53 | RvGaTe | faber3: why not? its free |
| 07:23.54 | lunitik | faber3: just don't ask mysql for support imo |
| 07:23.56 | Alam_Debian | Azar? |
| 07:24.08 | wer1wer1 | tralala, k. I really appreciate it. You have given me renewed hope! 4 minutes... |
| 07:24.13 | faber3 | cheal: people on #mysql say i have to license mysql. but i did not understand the legal english on mysql.com |
| 07:24.17 | lunitik | RvGaTe: MySQL is gpl... can't link against binary stuffs etc |
| 07:24.23 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: if its unstable (overclocking for example) it will error out and tell you rounding was wrong or something similar |
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| 07:24.53 | cheal | faber3: well, they're obviously better placed than us to help you about that |
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| 07:25.18 | Azar | Alam_Debian: I thought you were talking about C code. If so , define is just a preprocesor directive that defines "constants" |
| 07:25.27 | lunitik | faber3: nothing wrong with it... just don't release the result... or something... |
| 07:25.28 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: If you install my package /usr/share/doc/mprime/stress.txt should explain it |
| 07:25.36 | tralala | lunitik: actually I've installed openoffice2 from backports and it's still incomplete (not working) but it didn't depend on any non-free java |
| 07:25.37 | lunitik | faber3: nvidia drivers do the same thing basicallly |
| 07:25.40 | lunitik | basically* |
| 07:25.48 | Alam_Debian | i know define are, hmm _REENTRANT for threads-nine code? |
| 07:26.08 | lunitik | tralala: duh... its that it depends on kaffe that I find strange... |
| 07:26.33 | Azar | Alam_Debian: in short what it does: every place in the program that the constant appears, is replaced with a constantDefinition |
| 07:26.55 | Alam_Debian | ? |
| 07:27.00 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: sure, why not give it a try |
| 07:27.21 | Azar | Alam_Debian: to me, _REENTRANT looks like a constantDefinition |
| 07:27.37 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: it was done on a debian etch system so I can't claim it will work on sarge |
| 07:27.42 | formorer | moin |
| 07:27.46 | Azar | but now I guess is not in the context I know.. |
| 07:27.53 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: then i guess im the first one who tries it :) |
| 07:28.01 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: Thanks |
| 07:28.31 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: just need some help installing it tho, i only installed software using apt-get, not with a .deb |
| 07:28.49 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: dpkg -i /path/to/.deb |
| 07:28.52 | tralala | lunitik: maybe not directly but kaffe got installed along with other java stuff |
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| 07:29.27 | Azar | Alam_Debian: google say: _REENTRANT: The attribute of a program or routine that allows the same copy of a program or routine to be used concurrently by two or more tasks |
| 07:30.09 | tralala | lunitik: there you go: 10:30 <dpkg> libxt-java: depends on kaffe | java1-runtime | java2-runtime |
| 07:30.34 | RvGaTe | dpkg: error processing http://xaos-realms.net/data/linux/mprime_2414_i386.deb (--install): |
| 07:30.47 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: /\ |
| 07:31.02 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: it cannot find it |
| 07:31.15 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: I believe you actually have to download it |
| 07:31.26 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: doing that |
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| 07:31.45 | chino | how do i add my own startup script to the system ? |
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| 07:31.57 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: I used this program in windows all the time to stress test the cpu when overclocking |
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| 07:32.16 | tralala | chino: create it, put it in /etc/init.d/ and add it with update-rc.d |
| 07:32.28 | chino | so just run update-rc.d ? |
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| 07:32.43 | tralala | chino: no, you run man update-rc.d |
| 07:32.52 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: installed it |
| 07:33.21 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: $ mprime -t will start the torture test |
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| 07:33.34 | RvGaTe | will it crash my server, is that possible? |
| 07:33.41 | wer1wer1 | tralala, (WW) fglrx(0): MonitorLayout is no longer supported. |
| 07:33.47 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Balnk Screen. |
| 07:33.52 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: Possible if there are hardware problems thats it |
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| 07:34.04 | dec | Hi all... any ideas if there's a package to install the dm-mod kernel module on debian 3.1? (I'm unfamiliar with the whole debian kernel/modules as packages thing) |
| 07:34.13 | RvGaTe | mprime -t |
| 07:34.13 | RvGaTe | mprime: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 07:34.26 | Dwonis | tralala: Your nick is making it look like people are singing with sarcastic joy |
| 07:34.30 | tralala | wer1wer1: bah... Does it work with the radeon driver? |
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| 07:34.44 | tralala | Dwonis: hehe :) |
| 07:34.53 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: apt-get install libstdc++6 |
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| 07:35.03 | wer1wer1 | tralala, do I have to load radeonfb as well? |
| 07:35.12 | ic3man05 | I'll have to add that to the dependency list |
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| 07:35.23 | chino | how come nmap shows some ports as unkown but yet they are listed in etc/services ? |
| 07:35.25 | Dwonis | libstdc++6... o_O |
| 07:35.29 | jcdubacq | hi |
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| 07:35.31 | tralala | wer1wer1: no, you're not using framebuffer are you? |
| 07:35.33 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: its running |
| 07:35.42 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: sweet |
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| 07:35.54 | jcdubacq | doing some update today, I see that kdelibs-bin is scheduled for removal in a dist-upgrade |
| 07:36.06 | jcdubacq | what is is kdelibs-bin? Is it obsolete? |
| 07:36.25 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: cpu: 99.6% :P |
| 07:36.25 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: KDE has been obsoleted in favour of xterm ;) |
| 07:36.46 | wer1wer1 | tralala, No I am not using framebuffer.... No support for X1x00 in radeon yet :) |
| 07:36.57 | wer1wer1 | It didn't work. |
| 07:36.59 | jcdubacq | Dwonis: I thought login was the new trend. :) |
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| 07:37.09 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: how long should it run for on a 1ghz, 512ram ? |
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| 07:37.16 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: forever |
| 07:37.30 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: how do i know "it works"? |
| 07:37.41 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: It is. We run login inside an xterm |
| 07:37.43 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: if no errors in about 24hours |
| 07:37.52 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: I would consider that stable |
| 07:38.12 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: seems to be working great on sarge |
| 07:38.12 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: consoles are now obsolete since Linus decided to integrate X into the kernel |
| 07:38.15 | tralala | wer1wer1: so MonitorLayout is not supported anymore in the new fglrx releases? |
| 07:38.44 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: Glad to hear that |
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| 07:38.44 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: Did you check the description for the updated kdelibs-bin? |
| 07:38.44 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: maybe you could setup your dependencies, the libstdc++6 |
| 07:38.47 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Apparently. That was the Error in the log... |
| 07:38.54 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: or wait, no, that's for dummy packages |
| 07:38.56 | wer1wer1 | I am looking for an equivelent. |
| 07:39.04 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: but there usually is one for packages that are obsoleted |
| 07:39.12 | tralala | wer1wer1: can you try an older one? |
| 07:39.43 | jcdubacq | no change in description |
| 07:39.51 | jcdubacq | the last version is a binary NMU |
| 07:39.55 | ic3man05 | RvGate: success just did |
| 07:40.11 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: want me to test that aswell ? |
| 07:40.12 | ic3man05 | RvGate: http://xaos-realms.net/data/linux/mprime_2414-1_i386.deb |
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| 07:40.25 | wer1wer1 | Yeah, I will grab an older one. It will take a little bit. |
| 07:40.27 | ic3man05 | RvGate: Na, shouldn't need to bother |
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| 07:40.35 | yereth | when I want to 'apt-get install hotplug' apt tells me it' |
| 07:40.40 | ic3man05 | RvGate: more then likely its going to be a local only package for me |
| 07:40.40 | Dwonis | jcdubacq: hmm... it could just be that you don't have any KDE apps? |
| 07:40.51 | ic3man05 | RvGate: first test package I built |
| 07:40.57 | yereth | it's gonna remove my 2.6.16-1-k7 kernel |
| 07:41.13 | yereth | does this mean hotplug is a kernel module in this version? |
| 07:41.13 | rohan | does someone package enemy territory for debian ? |
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| 07:41.33 | rohan | yereth: hotplug is deprecated by the new udev |
| 07:41.42 | yereth | ow.. |
| 07:41.53 | ic3man05 | RvGaTe: thank you for testing it |
| 07:41.53 | rohan | yereth: and there is no reason you must need hotplug. and if you do need it, file a bug against udev ;) |
| 07:42.01 | yereth | rohan: I can't find a auto.usb script though |
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| 07:42.10 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: ill leave it running for today, till 5.... thats 7 hours from now on |
| 07:42.18 | wer1wer1 | tralala, The latest version fixed a blank screen problem with duel pciE boards.... I searched for the Topic number 737-22056 and could not find it in ati's knowledge base... kind of strange. |
| 07:42.25 | yereth | and I would like my usb storage devices to automount |
| 07:42.28 | RvGaTe | ic3man05: if anything strange happens, ill let you know |
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| 07:42.44 | jcdubacq | I am testing the removal. It does not remove anything. Suspicious |
| 07:42.54 | ic3man05 | RvGate: I'll be sleeping or at work, just private message me |
| 07:42.56 | rohan | yereth: no idea, sorry |
| 07:43.06 | yereth | rohan: instead of putting 20 mountpoints in fstab, anticipitating however many usb devices I might want to connect concurrently |
| 07:43.17 | yereth | rohan: how do you handle your USB? |
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| 07:43.27 | lol | -ChanServ- obrigado |
| 07:43.28 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I can't seem to find older driver... |
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| 07:44.09 | tralala | wer1wer1: what's the exact model? |
| 07:44.27 | yereth | Anyone here who has a decent way of mounting usb storage devices? |
| 07:44.30 | rohan | yereth: i dont use usb :) |
| 07:44.34 | lol | hahaha |
| 07:44.44 | yereth | rohan: ..... serial port? |
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| 07:44.46 | rohan | yereth: well, you'd need to write some udev rules, maybe ? |
| 07:44.54 | wer1wer1 | X1600 Pro (powercolor) |
| 07:44.55 | rohan | yereth: i dont have any hardware that uses usb |
| 07:45.05 | yereth | rohan: It seems to me I'd be inventing the wheel all over, doing that |
| 07:45.06 | wer1wer1 | 512Mb.... |
| 07:45.16 | lol | I'm ai kick rohan |
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| 07:45.21 | rohan | lol: :P |
| 07:45.33 | RvGaTe | i think im being hacked on my second debian server |
| 07:45.37 | rohan | yereth: well i think /msg dpkg usb might help, but not much |
| 07:45.39 | lol | estava so a brincar |
| 07:45.49 | rohan | ask on #linux too, just for kicks, yereth :) |
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| 07:46.09 | yereth | lol |
| 07:46.21 | yereth | rohan: I just might do that ;) |
| 07:46.25 | tralala | RvGaTe: you seem to be hacked quite often |
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| 07:46.43 | RvGaTe | tralala: no, i THINK im being hacked quite often :P |
| 07:46.45 | rohan | yereth: really, you might get some help .. the new udev has been there for quite a time ,and most distros use it now |
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| 07:47.06 | yereth | rohan: thanx for pointing that out :) |
| 07:47.33 | yereth | hrmmm.. #linux is no longer on freenode? |
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| 07:47.45 | chino | how do i get jdk ? |
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| 07:47.50 | lol | tem outro nome o #linux que é ##moved |
| 07:47.58 | Dwonis | Anyone know if the live.debian.net repository signing key changed recently? |
| 07:48.07 | yereth | lol: exactly what I wanted to say! |
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| 07:48.29 | lol | no |
| 07:48.37 | cheal | Dwonis: did you try their IRC channel? |
| 07:49.00 | Dwonis | cheal: yes, but it's very quiet in there... |
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| 07:49.06 | lol | yereth: exactly what I wanted to say! |
| 07:49.06 | RvGaTe | tralala: im thinking that, becouse i still have apache2 processes running, that have been started on May28... |
| 07:49.39 | cheal | Dwonis: no idea then |
| 07:49.40 | tralala | RvGaTe: perhaps you're a bit too paranoid :) |
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| 07:52.10 | Adriano | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.26 | RvGaTe | tralala: you think? :S |
| 07:53.14 | Libra102 | hello.. everyone.. |
| 07:53.23 | RvGaTe | hi |
| 07:54.25 | tralala | wer1wer1: the monitorlayout option used to work now I'm afraid you'll have to wait for a fix either from ati or from xorg |
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| 07:54.38 | yereth | hrmm.. #linux seems to be sleeping |
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| 07:55.26 | clarity__ | hey! what's a good feed reader? |
| 07:56.08 | louis_louis_oh_n | clarity I use thunderbird |
| 07:56.22 | tralala | clarity__: for me it's firefox |
| 07:56.23 | clarity__ | sweet... thunderbird does that |
| 07:56.30 | clarity__ | I'll figure out how to use it tomorrow at work :-) |
| 07:56.34 | yereth | clarity__: in kde there's also akregator, but don't know if it's good |
| 07:56.42 | lastnode | does anyone know what Joey Hess uses to keep his site updated? - http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/ . if that's a perl script id love to have it |
| 07:56.45 | clarity__ | I'm currently using gnome.. |
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| 07:57.08 | cheal | lastnode: ikiwiki |
| 07:57.16 | yereth | gnome.. hrmm |
| 07:57.27 | wer1wer1 | tralala, (**) fglrx(0): Option "DesktopSetup" "TMDS,AUTO" was in the logs.... seems to be the equivelent... I didn't catch that before. |
| 07:57.34 | louis_louis_oh_n | clarity__ yeah It is very easy. |
| 07:57.43 | lastnode | thanks cheal |
| 07:57.45 | RvGaTe | when i remove my /var/mail/ files, will they be recreated when someone recieves mail? |
| 07:58.19 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I see this (WW) fglrx(0): Specified desktop setup not supported: 8 |
| 07:58.34 | dorel__ | anyone with experience on getting firewire webcams supported on linux? i've plugged in the webcam and i see some info on dmesg but no idea how to continue other than that... |
| 07:58.37 | lastnode | cheal, do you/have you use/used it? |
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| 07:58.56 | cheal | lastnode: no. |
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| 07:59.42 | wer1wer1 | tralala, .... Please use DesktopSetup and ForceMonitors options |
| 08:00.16 | wer1wer1 | tralala, it does probe memory incorectly...(--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR2 |
| 08:00.47 | davis | hello |
| 08:00.50 | lastnode | ive managed to bungle my xserver-xorg settings. i want to completely purge everything xorg related, will apt-get remove xserver-sorg do? |
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| 08:02.00 | cheal | lastnode: no, simply removing/uninstalling keeps configuration |
| 08:02.13 | davis | hello |
| 08:02.18 | davis | Jump around. Jump up and get down. Jump around. Jump. Jump. ... |
| 08:02.25 | lastnode | cheal, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg doesnt work either |
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| 08:05.36 | RvGaTe | downloading security updates from security.debian.org gets denied by our isa server, is there another source that i can use? |
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| 08:07.00 | cheal | !tell FinnTux about away |
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| 08:07.35 | davis | I am trying to create a ~.menu entry so that I can create a entry for a non Debian package I have installed. I used the html docs in /usr/share/doc/menu/html for guidence, but I can't get it to work. |
| 08:07.58 | FinnTux | cheal, I seem to learn something new every day... |
| 08:08.18 | Misogynist | If I'm building a package using checkinstall and I want to deploy it on another system, how can I check all the library dependencies to ensure the target system has them? |
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| 08:13.35 | vince35 | yo debian (; |
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| 08:13.51 | RvGaTe | you know debian is actually an OS, not a person? :P |
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| 08:14.51 | wam | Hi, I need the local MAC-address of eth0 in my shellscript. Is the output of ifconfig standarized so I can use some expression to extract the address? Or is there a better way? |
| 08:15.06 | RvGaTe | cd .. |
| 08:15.09 | RvGaTe | oops :P |
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| 08:15.38 | sonasks | hello. i`m using named |
| 08:16.55 | dorel__ | any chance to get a firewire (1394 device) camera to wok with v4l? |
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| 08:19.28 | shogunx | wam I used a relatively long string of greps to extract ip address info, i suppose you could do the same with mac address. |
| 08:19.48 | davis | here is the result of my update-menus and my .menu file for my custom menu problem. |
| 08:19.52 | wam | shogunx: my current approach is ifconfig eth0|grep HWaddr|awk {'print $5'} |
| 08:19.55 | davis | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2678 |
| 08:20.01 | davis | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2679 |
| 08:20.06 | davis | please advise |
| 08:21.34 | RvGaTe | anyone using psybnc with multible server or admin options, please pm me, need some help |
| 08:21.37 | wer1wer1 | lspci reports incorrect memory for my ati X1600 pro 512.... Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] |
| 08:21.47 | wer1wer1 | lspci reports incorrect memory for my ati X1600 pro 512.... Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] |
| 08:21.51 | wer1wer1 | lspci reports incorrect memory for my ati X1600 pro 512.... Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] |
| 08:21.59 | wer1wer1 | <sorry. |
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| 08:22.09 | SlayerXP | good morning #deviants |
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| 08:23.48 | RvGaTe | ic3man05? |
| 08:24.42 | davis | SlayerXP: good morning |
| 08:25.57 | xlx | what is OFTC? |
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| 08:26.01 | KotH | moin |
| 08:26.24 | KotH | i have a small prob |
| 08:26.32 | KotH | i just upgraded my x to xorg 7.0 |
| 08:26.36 | SlayerXP | xlx: Open and Free Technology Community |
| 08:26.39 | KotH | since then startx doesnt work |
| 08:26.45 | KotH | using X doesnt work |
| 08:26.50 | KotH | no error message, nothing |
| 08:26.57 | KotH | strace did not reveal anything |
| 08:27.00 | SlayerXP | KotH: have you checked the X log? |
| 08:27.11 | KotH | there is no XOrg.0.log |
| 08:27.23 | KotH | well there is, but it's from a old session, before the update |
| 08:27.34 | SlayerXP | KotH: are you using unstable? |
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| 08:27.47 | Misogynist | Try "Xorg" instead of "X" |
| 08:27.48 | KotH | yes |
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| 08:28.00 | SlayerXP | KotH: wait 24 hours, try another update, consider filing a bug. |
| 08:28.14 | KotH | Misogynist: yay! that did the trick! |
| 08:28.14 | NetBandit | is there some way to make apache handle .aspx files? |
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| 08:28.35 | Misogynist | If you use a graphical login manager you'll need to update its X command to use Xorg |
| 08:28.37 | kevix | SlayerXP: Should folks go to OTFC and register nicks before they get taken? |
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| 08:28.52 | SlayerXP | kevix: I don't know, should they? |
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| 08:30.09 | lastnode | how can i completely reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 08:30.41 | Misogynist | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or did you have something else in mind |
| 08:30.44 | kevix | lastnode: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:31.01 | lastnode | kevix, Misogynist , after i do that, and start gdm, it still crashes |
| 08:31.02 | andreipath | does someone knows a program to chat between linux and msn yahoo/hotmail ? |
| 08:31.09 | lastnode | andreipath, gaim |
| 08:31.15 | SlayerXP | andreipath: gaim |
| 08:31.26 | Misogynist | Then your goal is to find out why it's crashing, not blindly reconfigure things with the same settings over and over hoping it's going to work :) |
| 08:31.31 | kevix | lastnode: what is the reason it gives? |
| 08:31.36 | Dwonis | andreipath: there are several |
| 08:31.49 | andreipath | can u tel me some name pls |
| 08:32.05 | andreipath | ive just started to use linux |
| 08:32.09 | lastnode | kevix, Misogynist im currently booted in on my ubuntu partition, chrooted in, i guess ill have to boot in and see |
| 08:32.17 | andreipath | so im not too familiar with it |
| 08:32.29 | Dwonis | andreipath: run "apt-cache search instant messenger" |
| 08:32.39 | lastnode | and im emerging gnome on my gentoo box via chroot, so cant really kill that |
| 08:33.02 | lastnode | is there anything else i might need to reconfigure though? |
| 08:33.03 | Dwonis | andreipath: I use kopete, although it's kind of quirky sometimes. gaim is probably a better choice. |
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| 08:33.11 | lastnode | andreipath, there is amsn too |
| 08:33.12 | kevix | lastnode: note: always give too much info when asking questions. never say 'it doest work' |
| 08:33.42 | andreipath | i use kinnopix |
| 08:33.42 | lastnode | kevix, i would pastebin xorg.0.log but im not booted in, i already said that |
| 08:33.44 | lastnode | anyway, thanks |
| 08:33.52 | Ikarus | Anyone know where I can find info on the progress of packaging Apache 2.2 ? |
| 08:33.53 | lastnode | andreipath, /join #knoppix |
| 08:34.01 | lastnode | Ikarus, packages.debian.org ? |
| 08:34.07 | Dwonis | kevix: Correct, you should say it *doesn't* work. Spelling is crucial. |
| 08:34.10 | KotH | wtf... startx doesnt work as user because it cant create Xorg.0.log ? |
| 08:34.13 | Ikarus | lastnode: it isn't in any of the distros |
| 08:34.13 | andreipath | thanx |
| 08:34.16 | andreipath | i will |
| 08:34.22 | Ikarus | lastnode: hence me wanting to know the progress |
| 08:34.45 | Misogynist | X.org 7.0 introduces all kinds of changes that nobody understands :( |
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| 08:35.07 | KotH | strange changes |
| 08:35.19 | kevix | Misogynist: the biggest is that its 'modularized' |
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| 08:35.25 | Misogynist | I think the issue is that Xorg is no longer installed suid root |
| 08:35.39 | KotH | uh ? |
| 08:35.42 | Dwonis | Misogynist: eh? |
| 08:35.47 | KotH | and how is it supposed to work at all? |
| 08:35.51 | andreipath | how do i run "apt-cache search instant messenger" ? |
| 08:36.06 | cheal | Ikarus: heck for a bug about it |
| 08:36.15 | RvGaTe | concept10: i have the feeling i know you... |
| 08:36.19 | Dwonis | andreipath: You'd start a "Terminal" or "Console" or "xterm" or whatever, and type in that command |
| 08:36.32 | beefcake | andreipath just use bitlbee |
| 08:36.37 | beefcake | for your instant message crap |
| 08:36.41 | concept10 | RvGaTe, huh |
| 08:36.53 | Misogynist | KotH: As root still, so I'm not sure what they wanted to accomplish :) |
| 08:36.55 | RvGaTe | concept10: you know wdoos ? |
| 08:36.56 | cheal | Ikarus: s/heck/check |
| 08:37.13 | concept10 | RvGaTe, no |
| 08:37.29 | RvGaTe | concept10: nvm then, i dont know you: |
| 08:37.30 | KotH | Misogynist: breaking things for everyone |
| 08:37.32 | Ikarus | cheal: by which package, the apache 2.0 one ? |
| 08:37.50 | Misogynist | Yeah, that's the price of progress and it's the way everything else on the Linux desktop has been for half a decade at least |
| 08:38.01 | KotH | Misogynist: the reason i went to unstable was, because the x packages in testing were half 7.0 and half 6.9, rendering x unusable |
| 08:38.08 | Misogynist | Haha, wow |
| 08:38.15 | KotH | oh yes, the package dependencies didn't prevent anything |
| 08:38.19 | cheal | Ikarus: apache2 |
| 08:38.43 | Dwonis | KotH: I'd say "Blame Canada", but I'm from Canada, so blame gravity |
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| 08:39.04 | kevix | KotH: I wont use testing until the end of the developement cycle. |
| 08:39.08 | Dwonis | KotH: oh, never mind, gravity isn't here to defend himself |
| 08:39.59 | lastnode | i cant remember running an X -configure the last time i apt-getted xserver-xorg on etch |
| 08:40.03 | lastnode | is there something im missing? |
| 08:40.08 | Dwonis | "testing" is short for "testing your patience" |
| 08:40.17 | Ikarus | Right, apache 2.2 packaging seems to be rather erm, DEAD, last status report is february and it says, will release soon basicly.... |
| 08:40.46 | azeem | Ikarus: we hope there will be some movement next week after Ubuntu has released |
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| 08:41.01 | tralala | wer1wer1: does it work with any of them? |
| 08:41.15 | kevix | lastnode: you dont use 'X -configure' normally if you use debian. |
| 08:41.26 | Dwonis | Ikarus: It'll probably be released shortly after sid is released. |
| 08:41.38 | lastnode | kevix, that's what im finding wierd, then. this is th efirst time ive ever had to mess with X |
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| 08:42.27 | kevix | lastnode: are you using debian/testing? |
| 08:42.34 | lastnode | etch |
| 08:43.26 | shogunx | wam ip addr show eth0 | egrep -m1 -o '((\w+:)+\w+)' | grep [[:digit:]] |
| 08:43.26 | Ikarus | azeem: ah, any place where I can help out with ? |
| 08:43.27 | kevix | lastnode: etch is not released(its still being tested, thus its called 'testing') |
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| 08:43.34 | KotH | Your version of x11-common (1:7.0.20) is newer than that in Debian! Do you |
| 08:43.36 | KotH | wtf? |
| 08:43.43 | formorer | and its not recommeneded for normal usage |
| 08:43.44 | KotH | is report bug broken too? |
| 08:43.47 | Dwonis | KotH: nice |
| 08:43.49 | KotH | reportbug that is |
| 08:43.52 | shogunx | wam that would be the way i would do it. |
| 08:44.38 | azeem | KotH: x11-common is not in testing |
| 08:44.39 | kevix | lastnode: I'd use stable or unstable. testing breaks for long periods. |
| 08:44.48 | azeem | eh, the 7.0 version, I mean |
| 08:44.54 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I can't find old drivers on ati's site..... |
| 08:45.06 | Dwonis | whereas unstable is almost always broken... at least there's no false hope |
| 08:45.12 | cheal | KotH: check the BTS |
| 08:45.20 | tralala | wer1wer1: I mean any of the new options with the new driver |
| 08:45.24 | shogunx | wam yours is a bit shorter, and captializes the letters. |
| 08:45.27 | KotH | cheal: on reportbug? |
| 08:45.36 | KotH | cheal: i'm just going to ignore that |
| 08:45.36 | kevix | Dwonis: but a fix is just around the corner! |
| 08:45.42 | cheal | KotH: yes |
| 08:45.46 | KotH | cheal: i've already enough to report with x |
| 08:46.02 | Dwonis | kevix: heh |
| 08:46.02 | cheal | KotH: well, as you want...you didn't seem to be ignoring it |
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| 08:46.58 | RvGaTe | hmm, im trying to kill a process, but kill <pid> doesn't seem to work |
| 08:47.08 | lastnode | ok kevix |
| 08:47.08 | lastnode | thanks |
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| 08:47.37 | kevix | RvGaTe: kill -1 is polite, kill -9 is forcefull |
| 08:47.45 | wer1wer1 | tralala, nope... using DesktopSetup "TMDS, AUTO", I dissabled mtrr since lspci reports incorrect memory.... |
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| 08:48.02 | orjan | I have correct chars in console ( swedish powerpc stable) but in X I lack the chars I get in combination with "right apple" ( alt-gr on a pc). What to check? |
| 08:48.10 | tralala | wer1wer1: how about the ForceMonitor? |
| 08:48.16 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I don't know what this error means.Specified desktop setup not supported: 8 and Primary Controller - DFP on secondary TMDS |
| 08:48.33 | RvGaTe | thx kevix |
| 08:48.51 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I don't know what to do with ForceMonitor, I can't find where all of these options are documentented. |
| 08:49.12 | tralala | wer1wer1: can you pastebin your X log |
| 08:49.53 | wer1wer1 | tralala, huh? I don't irc much..... |
| 08:50.06 | tralala | !pastebin |
| 08:50.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 08:53.42 | stoned | <Shirakawasuna> only 16Gb for all of gentoo on my laptop <-- holy hell, 16gb amd counting |
| 08:53.44 | stoned | heh |
| 08:53.57 | stoned | and* |
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| 08:55.28 | Misogynist | I'd wager if you nuked the distfiles directory that would suddenly be a ton smaller :) |
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| 08:56.07 | lestat | hi all |
| 08:56.23 | lestat | I've got a problem with printconf |
| 08:56.33 | lastnode | is there a howto for packaging debs? |
| 08:56.36 | stoned | I've got a problem with Queen of the Damned |
| 08:56.39 | stoned | that movie sucked man |
| 08:56.43 | stoned | you should be ashamed of yourself |
| 08:56.55 | lestat | stoned: I completely agree with you |
| 08:57.18 | stoned | but you can play that violin man, you inspired me to actually buy one from musicians friend |
| 08:57.19 | stoned | ;D |
| 08:57.26 | lestat | :) |
| 08:57.34 | stoned | hehe, anyway, what you need with printconf |
| 08:57.45 | lestat | stoned: the only good thing of that film, is the soundtrack |
| 08:57.58 | stoned | indeed, south indian Karnatik music |
| 08:58.00 | lestat | btw, it does glibc corruption always |
| 08:58.04 | stoned | on the violin |
| 08:58.05 | wer1wer1 | tralala, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2680 |
| 08:58.24 | lestat | something like *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x081917a0 *** |
| 08:58.31 | stoned | you're on sid? |
| 08:58.44 | lestat | stoned: yep |
| 08:58.45 | Misogynist | Does anyone know if Debian's mysql-server in unstable is built with -max features like clustering support? |
| 08:58.58 | pink1 | So I'm trying to compile something, but I got an error with gcc 4.x, and I googled it and found that I need to compiled with an older gcc (such as 3.4). |
| 08:59.13 | pink1 | So I installed gcc 3.4 package but it still doesn't work. |
| 08:59.22 | stoned | pink1, apt-get install gcc-3.4 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 |
| 08:59.23 | pink1 | How do I know which version of gcc it's trying to compile it with? |
| 08:59.26 | stoned | something like that |
| 08:59.44 | orjan | I have correct chars in console ( swedish powerpc stable) but in X I lack the chars I get in combination with "right apple" ( alt-gr on a pc), that is "bar" "at" etc. I do have the umlauts. What to check? |
| 08:59.46 | stoned | pink1, it should give an error and tell you what gcc version you're compiling it as |
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| 09:00.13 | pink1 | stoned: Well, I don't know that I want to use 3.4 by default... can I force it to use 3.4 for this specific invokation of make? |
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| 09:00.37 | stoned | pink1, you need to set the CC variable to 3.4 gcc or gcc of your choice |
| 09:00.50 | stoned | lestat, I can't think of anything man, check the BTS? |
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| 09:01.16 | pink1 | And is it bad to have multiple gcc packages installed? Like, gcc-3.3, gcc-3.4, gcc-4.0, and gcc-4.1? |
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| 09:01.22 | stoned | no it isn't |
| 09:01.36 | RvGaTe | When i do netstat -a, it gives me listening ports like: *:port, but if the ports are known, it gives: *:name, how do i force it to display the port numbers instead of name |
| 09:01.47 | stoned | when you need to use a certain gcc, just set the C Compiler (CC) variable to the executable of that particluar gcc version |
| 09:01.59 | pink1 | So whenever I want to change which version of gcc to use when I type "make" I do "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-x.x"? |
| 09:02.15 | stoned | ye |
| 09:02.17 | stoned | yes |
| 09:02.21 | pink1 | Okay thanks |
| 09:02.27 | stoned | pink1, hold on |
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| 09:02.34 | pink1 | Damn, didn't work. |
| 09:02.35 | stoned | I am not positive exactly what the file names are |
| 09:02.46 | rohan | do debian kernels come with squashfs support compiled in ? |
| 09:02.48 | RvGaTe | nvm my last question, got it |
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| 09:02.53 | stoned | pink1, dpkg -L gcc-3.4|grep bin |
| 09:03.05 | pink1 | There is a /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 file on my system |
| 09:03.38 | rohan | mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs' |
| 09:03.52 | pink1 | But meh, it's still not working... =[ |
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| 09:04.07 | stoned | pink1, well thats the way to use a particular compiler |
| 09:04.15 | stoned | pink1, I don't kow what else you're trying to do |
| 09:04.22 | stoned | know* |
| 09:04.41 | tarzeau | http://buildd.debian.org/ what time zone are these times? |
| 09:04.51 | tarzeau | could they not make it UTC when they don't write which timezone it is? |
| 09:05.18 | stoned | have no clue |
| 09:05.32 | undrdawg | are the current dpkg mirrors elf format? |
| 09:05.56 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I added Option "ForceMonitors" "crt1,notv" with no Luck. |
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| 09:07.14 | RvGaTe | Im trying to connect to my bnc over port 6667 (runs quakenet), i have it forwarded on my router, and its listening in netstat -an, but still my client says connection refused... how can i figure out where its being refused? |
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| 09:08.50 | tarzeau | so cool! http://links.twibright.com/download/ChangeLog |
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| 09:09.03 | stoned | RvGaTe, apt-get install netcat && nc host 6667 |
| 09:09.08 | stoned | what do you get? |
| 09:09.11 | stoned | same thing? |
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| 09:09.34 | K|NgGh0sT | Alright, when upgrading to Etch, I know you have to use Nvidia-Legacy drivers, will that give me 3d support? |
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| 09:10.06 | tralala | wer1wer1: try DesktopSetup "LVDS, TMDS" |
| 09:10.17 | stoned | connection is more than likely being refused by the router side |
| 09:10.24 | stoned | !bnc |
| 09:10.24 | dpkg | i heard bnc is a connector for coaxial cable such as that used for some video connections and RG58, cheapernet, connections. A BNC connector has a bayonet-type shell with two small knobs on the female connector which lock into spiral slots in the male connector when it is twisted on. used for old workstation monitors, or an IRC session bouncing proxy. Blue Nipple Cover |
| 09:10.39 | stoned | lol blue nipple cover |
| 09:10.50 | rohan | whats the easiest way, apart from recompiling the kernel, to get squashfs working on debian ? |
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| 09:11.25 | RvGaTe | stoned: it gives me nothing (trying to do it from a debian server from this network), both on 6667 and 6668, altho im connected on 6668 now as we speak |
| 09:11.54 | stoned | RvGaTe, you shouldn't be using standard irc ports on an irc proxy to begin with |
| 09:12.10 | RvGaTe | stoned: its password protected |
| 09:12.31 | wer1wer1 | tralala, no go... This changed. (WW) fglrx(0): Specified desktop setup not supported: 1 |
| 09:12.54 | stoned | I think its blocked at the router level |
| 09:13.02 | wer1wer1 | tralala, I looked at the output of aticonfig... and had tried DesktopSetup "single" as well.... |
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| 09:13.17 | achidiax | can I use the CDs I burned to update Debian ? |
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| 09:13.26 | stoned | check your port forwarding again |
| 09:13.35 | siji | hi |
| 09:13.38 | tralala | wer1wer1: and still nothing with single? |
| 09:13.48 | KotH | summary: to get x working again: set /usr/bin/Xorg suid root, change /usr/bin/startx and /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc to use /usr/bin/Xorg instead of /usr/bin/X |
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| 09:14.03 | stoned | achidiax, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 09:14.03 | RvGaTe | stoned: double and triple checked it, im even going to upload a screenshot, hold on |
| 09:14.08 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Nothing... really frustrating. |
| 09:14.30 | stoned | RvGaTe, is the bnc running? ps x, netstat etc. |
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| 09:14.40 | RvGaTe | stoned: ues |
| 09:14.46 | RvGaTe | *y |
| 09:14.47 | achidiax | I was told: "Easiest way to do that is to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and put # in front of all the ftp sites. And then exit and run apt-cd or whatever it's called, maybe apt-cdrom." |
| 09:14.49 | wer1wer1 | I had been starting to think it may be the xpress 3200 chip on my Mother board.... |
| 09:14.50 | stoned | RvGaTe, try running it on a nonstandard port like 55000 |
| 09:14.59 | stoned | forward 55000 to your ip and try again |
| 09:15.04 | wer1wer1 | tralala, But I am grasping here (for a couple of days now). |
| 09:15.06 | achidiax | "Then you can run aptitude or apt-get, and will install from the CD instead of the FTP, all things going to plan." |
| 09:15.22 | stoned | RvGaTe, dunno if what should matter, but give it a go anyway |
| 09:15.27 | stoned | that* |
| 09:15.40 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Also, lspci reports the wrong amount of ram on my card.... |
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| 09:16.09 | stoned | achidiax, apt-setup |
| 09:16.16 | tralala | wer1wer1: it seems that this card is unsupported |
| 09:16.18 | achidiax | ? |
| 09:16.30 | stoned | thats the one you want, not apt-cd |
| 09:16.31 | stoned | heh |
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| 09:16.51 | achidiax | 14 cd's is alot though! That is one complete distro |
| 09:16.53 | wer1wer1 | tralala, :) well, I had the same results with Xfree86 4.3 with this card and the nvidia card. |
| 09:16.57 | RvGaTe | stoned: let met create a screenshot to provide you anough information |
| 09:17.15 | stoned | achidiax, what are you wanting to do? just update the packages to the latest version? of sarge? just apt-get upgrade man |
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| 09:17.24 | Esaj | hmm, is sound screwed for anyone else in unstable? |
| 09:17.26 | stoned | RvGaTe, ok |
| 09:17.28 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Both do similar things (bank screen, no bad errors), so I started to think that the chipset had something to do with it. |
| 09:17.45 | siji | anybody can give me a good tutorial for remastering morphix |
| 09:17.52 | tarzeau | siji: #morphix |
| 09:17.54 | stoned | siji, morphix website |
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| 09:17.58 | siji | ya |
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| 09:18.14 | stoned | !tell siji about debian based |
| 09:18.22 | siji | ya |
| 09:18.54 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Thanks for your help. I will keep messing with it, and will be back here to report. Need to work in a few hours..... |
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| 09:19.02 | tralala | wer1wer1: I've seen plenty of reports for X1600 giving a blank screen. I don't think it's the chipset just the card. |
| 09:19.33 | wer1wer1 | tralala, Well, ati did have a problem with X1x00 cards that hd 512 mb.... |
| 09:19.39 | tralala | wer1wer1: good luck. If you manage to do it be sure to inform dpkg about the options (ati+xorg blankscreen) |
| 09:19.57 | wer1wer1 | tralala, k Thanks. |
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| 09:20.31 | stoned | NP: Cryptopsy -|- ...And Then You'll Beg -|- " We Bleed " -|- (Death Metal) -|- (rating: 0/0) |
| 09:20.39 | stoned | ahh boy |
| 09:20.43 | stoned | oh doh |
| 09:20.48 | stoned | man, wtf, why is it still public |
| 09:21.04 | stoned | sorry |
| 09:21.21 | stoned | oh it does a privmsg $chan |
| 09:21.25 | stoned | gay |
| 09:21.30 | vince35 | is there a lot of people with utf8 charset here ? is there a pref ? |
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| 09:21.40 | stoned | I do, I dunno why, but I do |
| 09:21.56 | stoned | I always specify utf8 in my web pages too, dunno why |
| 09:22.43 | vince35 | i wondered if , officially , "we" , here, wd prefer utf8 or not |
| 09:22.51 | vince35 | thx stoned (: |
| 09:23.12 | stoned | I can't speak for others |
| 09:24.02 | K|NgGh0sT | ANyone know of a free windows partition so I can install linux on this laptop? |
| 09:24.16 | stoned | using this gay script is stupid, I can just make buttons in xchat to control amarok. |
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| 09:24.30 | stoned | K|NgGh0sT, what the hell? |
| 09:24.37 | stoned | a free windows partition? lol |
| 09:24.43 | K|NgGh0sT | er |
| 09:24.45 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm tired |
| 09:24.47 | stoned | i know |
| 09:24.48 | Tidus | partition resizer? |
| 09:24.51 | K|NgGh0sT | fya |
| 09:24.51 | stoned | j/k |
| 09:24.52 | K|NgGh0sT | ya |
| 09:24.54 | vince35 | K|NgGh0sT, linux one , qtparted |
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| 09:25.22 | K|NgGh0sT | This is going to be fun, wonder how this laptop will do under linux |
| 09:25.22 | vince35 | qtparted from live cd... |
| 09:25.38 | stoned | K|NgGh0sT, I don't know how stable ntfsresize is |
| 09:25.48 | stoned | but you can sure wipe it off and put on linux only |
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| 09:25.55 | RvGaTe | stoned: http://www.rvgate.nl/fotos/port_6667.JPG |
| 09:25.56 | vince35 | i've done it several time , no problem |
| 09:25.58 | Tidus | the knoppix livecd is good for stuff like that, but i would strongly recommend backing up before you fiddle with partition resizing |
| 09:26.02 | K|NgGh0sT | ah screw it, just going to format the whole damn thing |
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| 09:26.05 | vince35 | with last knoppix live cd |
| 09:26.23 | Tidus | btw, why does this channel by default forward you to #knoppix if you're using a knoppix cd? |
| 09:26.42 | RvGaTe | stoned: windows marked green is the current network im in, red is remote server with bnc running, or my own pc using remote desktop, with therouter port forward on it |
| 09:26.43 | Tidus | had to do some evil hackery to this cd to keep it from doing that. |
| 09:26.46 | omgkthx | so much channels |
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| 09:27.01 | K|NgGh0sT | alright here goes nothin |
| 09:27.09 | Dwonis | I've used ntfsresize successfully before |
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| 09:27.23 | Dwonis | too late |
| 09:27.24 | stoned | you're trying to connect as root |
| 09:27.31 | Tidus | no, actually |
| 09:27.32 | stoned | if psybnc doesn't recognize yoru username |
| 09:27.38 | stoned | or ident |
| 09:27.38 | Tidus | i'm connecting as the user 'knoppix' |
| 09:27.40 | stoned | it will refuse connection |
| 09:27.48 | Tidus | user 'knoppix' and it idents the same way |
| 09:27.54 | stoned | psybnc will always refuse connection based on bad user name or ident |
| 09:28.04 | stoned | try one that been added to the bnc |
| 09:28.11 | stoned | or dont' connect as root and try again |
| 09:28.17 | Tidus | i'm not using root, and i'm not using a bouncer |
| 09:28.23 | Tidus | stoned: i just explained it. |
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| 09:28.38 | RvGaTe | stoned: it does work when im trying to connect from my own pc in the same network... thats the thing that kinda keeps me thinking |
| 09:28.38 | stoned | Tidus, sorry not talking to you |
| 09:28.42 | Tidus | oh. |
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| 09:28.52 | K|NgGh0sT | wonder how much of a bitch the Fn keys are going to take |
| 09:28.56 | Tidus | sorry lol |
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| 09:29.05 | stoned | rvalles, I dunno how pybnc works, but its not a netwokring issue |
| 09:29.07 | Dwonis | Tidus: hah! I just tried that... that's hilarious! |
| 09:29.08 | Tidus | anybody got an answer for my question tho? |
| 09:29.35 | stoned | RvGaTe, sorry |
| 09:29.35 | stoned | heh |
| 09:29.38 | vince35 | Tidus, where's yur prob , change yur nick ? |
| 09:29.39 | RvGaTe | i know :P |
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| 09:29.40 | Tidus | Dwonis: i know... this channel'll bounce ya to #knoppix if you're using a knoppix cd lol |
| 09:29.45 | Sirius_Black | hi guys - i dist-upgraded to lates unsatble yesterdat and now I am getting this regarding alsa --> "ALSA lib control.c:816:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default" |
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| 09:29.48 | Sirius_Black | any idea? |
| 09:29.48 | Tidus | vince35: changed nick before i ever connected. |
| 09:30.05 | stoned | SirFunk, does yoru sound still work |
| 09:30.11 | stoned | Sirius_Black, ^^ |
| 09:30.16 | vince35 | mmm strange |
| 09:30.17 | Sirius_Black | stoned: no it doesnt :-( |
| 09:30.21 | Sirius_Black | no sound |
| 09:30.27 | stoned | Sirius_Black, I get that too, but my sound works, this happens only when I try to use dmix though |
| 09:30.34 | stoned | hmm, strange |
| 09:30.38 | Dwonis | Tidus: Somebody probably got tired of people using Knoppix asking questions here |
| 09:30.43 | Tidus | vince35: chances are it's reading the username string and bouncing it that way |
| 09:31.29 | vince35 | Tidus, what's the user name string when yu change user knoppix in whatever ? |
| 09:31.35 | vince35 | can't get that |
| 09:31.36 | wombachi | why doesnt Debian build php5-mysqli ? (as I read in php5 Changelog) |
| 09:31.47 | Tidus | vince35: i connected as "n=knoppix@unaffiliated/tidus" |
| 09:31.54 | stoned | snd_ctl_open_open is the one I get |
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| 09:32.02 | Tidus | i was identified, but got bounced loo |
| 09:32.04 | Tidus | lol *( |
| 09:32.13 | Sirius_Black | stoned: how can I move away from alsa to oss |
| 09:32.24 | stoned | you don't want to, alsa is godking |
| 09:32.42 | Tidus | Sirius_Black: try a fresh install of etch without dist-upgrading from sarge. |
| 09:32.42 | stoned | Sirius_Black, do you have alsa-oss installed? |
| 09:32.50 | stoned | Tidus, what? no |
| 09:32.50 | wombachi | Sirius_Black alsa has compatibility layer to oss |
| 09:32.52 | Sirius_Black | stoned yeah |
| 09:33.06 | Tidus | stoned: he's dist-upgraded to unstable already |
| 09:33.07 | vince35 | Tidus, don't know well this prob, but seem to me you have , and can, make appear no knoppix in yur string |
| 09:33.18 | stoned | Tidus, I know |
| 09:33.22 | Tidus | vince35: hence the evil hackery |
| 09:33.40 | Tidus | vince35: lol ... change the ident string before connecting |
| 09:33.41 | stoned | wow cryptopsy has amazing shred metal solos |
| 09:33.56 | Sirius_Black | stoned: does that mean that I can use oss rather than alsa? |
| 09:33.56 | vince35 | Tidus, , (o: , sorry me english is too bad to understand all |
| 09:34.20 | stoned | Sirius_Black, you can use oss too |
| 09:34.35 | Sirius_Black | stoned: what do i need to do then please |
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| 09:35.53 | eleftherios | a package (nXML) failed to build (compiling the elisp files) after I had apt-get install-ed it. Now, everytime I install another package, apt tried to install it everytime. How can I stop this happening? |
| 09:36.01 | RvGaTe | stoned: here's another screenshot, i dont think its a application problem... http://rvgate.nl/fotos/port_6667_2.JPG |
| 09:36.04 | eleftherios | s/tried/tries |
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| 09:37.13 | stoned | if you can connect ot it, its not a friggin networking problem |
| 09:37.16 | stoned | like I said |
| 09:38.27 | RvGaTe | its just so strange, the same application running on port 6668 works perfectly, but trying to run in on 6667 works only local... |
| 09:38.46 | RvGaTe | i got the same when changing port to 6669 |
| 09:38.56 | K|NgGh0sT | where would I find a net install of etch? |
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| 09:39.20 | stoned | !d-i K|NgGh0sT |
| 09:39.20 | dpkg | K|NgGh0sT, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:39.29 | Tidus | !tell K|NgGh0sT about etch |
| 09:39.46 | K|NgGh0sT | stoned, I already have that, I want to avoid upgrading from sarge to etch |
| 09:40.01 | stoned | K|NgGh0sT, umm, there is a link to etch netinstaller |
| 09:40.11 | Sonderblade | i want to create a deb of a php-mysql app, is that possible and then also have the creation of the db tables done by the deb's installation process? |
| 09:40.13 | Tidus | when you use d-i, tell it to pull the 'testing' files instead of 'stable' |
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| 09:40.36 | stoned | K|NgGh0sT, all the way at the bottom |
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| 09:41.01 | stoned | right above the blind heading |
| 09:41.02 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:41.25 | K|NgGh0sT | Thanks |
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| 09:41.44 | stoned | don't be too hasty, read carefully stuff |
| 09:41.45 | stoned | :) |
| 09:41.54 | omgkthx | STONED |
| 09:41.57 | stoned | ahh, i try to sound like yodo I do, but it works not |
| 09:41.59 | K|NgGh0sT | I shouldnt be doing this right now |
| 09:42.02 | omgkthx | YOUR NAME IS FRIGGEN STONED |
| 09:42.13 | stoned | yoda* |
| 09:42.17 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm off to sleep |
| 09:42.19 | Tidus | Patience, you must learn |
| 09:42.20 | K|NgGh0sT | morning I will do this |
| 09:42.30 | cam | after recompiling my kernel, when i plug an usb key, it's no longer automounting, manually is fine. what's wrong ? |
| 09:42.31 | K|NgGh0sT | I've been up for 40 hrs |
| 09:42.34 | Tidus | and carefully stuff you must read. |
| 09:42.38 | Dwonis | omgkthx: It's not Sunday |
| 09:42.47 | cam | i'm using 2.6.16.18 |
| 09:42.49 | wombachi | Sonderblade possible. You can call a script (creating tables) in the pre-inst part of the package. But packaging web apps is not that simple. There's a ML for that http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/ |
| 09:43.03 | omgkthx | what |
| 09:43.12 | Dwonis | omgkthx: never mind |
| 09:43.20 | Sonderblade | wombachi: problem is, what if the database server isn't running when im installing? |
| 09:43.37 | omgkthx | you can't just go telling me its not sunday like that |
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| 09:43.45 | omgkthx | you trying to mess me up |
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| 09:43.56 | stoned | omgkthx, what do you need from #debian |
| 09:44.02 | Tidus | well... it's not sunday |
| 09:44.04 | di | hi, anjuta from apt crashes all the time |
| 09:44.13 | di | where can i get anjuta ver 2.x? |
| 09:44.16 | Tidus | Tue May 30 05:43:52 EDT 2006 |
| 09:44.59 | omgkthx | what do you need out of it |
| 09:45.23 | Dwonis | !tell Tidus about sunday |
| 09:45.25 | wombachi | Sonderblade: many php apps require some setup at first use (often via something like admin/setup.php). |
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| 09:45.41 | wombachi | Sonderblade: better keep that out of the deb, it's way easier. |
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| 09:48.05 | Tidus | lol |
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| 09:48.24 | wombachi | Why is there no php5-mysqli in Debian? Because maintaining PHP is nightmarish? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg03074.html |
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| 09:49.29 | ben_h | hi all |
| 09:49.39 | cam | typing pmount-hal /dev/sdb1 is workign ... i got the volume mounted .. but is there a way to automate this ? |
| 09:49.50 | ben_h | oath.. 777 of us tonight :) |
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| 09:50.39 | wombachi | dotdeb.org has php5-{mysql,mysqli} (build againts libmysql14), so it seems possible to do it |
| 09:52.48 | k31th | Ok, I have created a user and i want the user to be able to write to a dir thats owned by apache |
| 09:52.55 | k31th | adding the user to the group will do this ? |
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| 09:53.30 | k31th | also in order to write to the bottom dir, will theuser have to have rw rights to the dirs above it ? |
| 09:53.41 | RvGaTe | seen ic3man05 |
| 09:53.45 | RvGaTe | !seen ic3man05 |
| 09:53.46 | dpkg | ic3man05 is currently on #debian (4h 4m 32s). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 2h 10m 52s |
| 09:53.48 | stoned | k31th, why are you writing to the apache dir |
| 09:53.55 | k31th | stoned. |
| 09:54.04 | wombachi | k31th: no, only (r)x rights |
| 09:54.17 | stoned | k31th, why not enable public_html and user enable username in httpd.conf and created ~/public_html |
| 09:54.25 | k31th | i want to write to /home/www/html A user needs to add files there etc via ssh / ftp |
| 09:54.46 | k31th | stoned: i would but this site is the only one on the box atm. |
| 09:54.47 | stoned | k31th, I would much rather use public_html |
| 09:55.05 | stoned | k31th, ahhh boy. man chmod |
| 09:55.26 | stoned | why not shoot yourself in the foot with a shotgun while you're at it |
| 09:55.27 | stoned | :/ |
| 09:55.57 | k31th | but if i change the owner of the dir to the user thats wants to write to it wont i cause problems for apache etc? |
| 09:56.04 | di | where can i get anjuta ver 2.x? |
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| 09:56.17 | stoned | k31th, you don't have to change owner/group. I never mentioned chgrp/chown |
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| 09:56.39 | stoned | k31th, make a special dir inside apche dir and call ssh_upload or whatever |
| 09:56.46 | stoned | k31th, then make that dir 777 |
| 09:57.14 | stoned | at least you won't be changing perms of the whole apache dir |
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| 09:57.23 | k31th | is that wise, this has real world access. |
| 09:57.36 | stoned | k31th, use public html |
| 09:57.40 | k31th | only needs to acces one dir tbh. |
| 09:57.59 | stoned | why do you need access to the apache dir |
| 09:57.59 | stoned | ? |
| 09:58.05 | stoned | who is uplaoding what there? |
| 09:58.14 | k31th | there must be way to allow multipul users to connect via ftp and add remove files. |
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| 09:58.38 | RvGaTe | lol@windows, cant even remotely shutdown a pc with the use of a button... :P |
| 09:58.46 | ben_h | lol |
| 09:58.46 | stoned | so what has ftp got to do with apache |
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| 09:59.10 | k31th | i want to be able to add remove files from the http root. |
| 09:59.16 | k31th | so they can add eb pages etc. |
| 09:59.19 | k31th | web |
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| 10:00.24 | stoned | k31th, so you want users to be able to read/write to server root? |
| 10:00.34 | k31th | yeah. |
| 10:00.34 | stoned | no offense, but have you gone mental? |
| 10:00.36 | stoned | ;) |
| 10:00.38 | k31th | lol |
| 10:00.50 | wombachi | k31th: To learn about file perms, type: info coreutils "file permissions" |
| 10:00.57 | k31th | i want one user to be able to write to the document root. |
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| 10:01.27 | wombachi | k31th: create a dir owned by a "webmaster" user, and configure some Apache vhost with that dir as DocumentRoot |
| 10:02.03 | wombachi | k31th: for this, you'll have to read docs (apache, file perms) |
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| 10:09.48 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
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| 10:13.05 | Sonderblade | what different values can the Section: field in debian packages have? |
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| 10:13.58 | bliss_ | hey |
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| 10:15.47 | bliss_ | just followed this howto http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/loop-aes/#prepare_the_system and have home encrpted , but was wondering how to encrypt root and swap but still be able to boot? |
| 10:15.56 | TuxMeister | how can i make a group of users to have access to a concrete directory, with all the permissions? |
| 10:16.29 | TuxMeister | i know how to create a group and i know how to make users join that new group, but no idea about how creating access directives.. anybody could help me? |
| 10:18.47 | MatBoy | I have a problem with my 17" TFT that only wants to run on 75Hz, while another monitor in my setup runs @ 60Hz |
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| 10:21.13 | Sonderblade | thanks |
| 10:21.23 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:21.24 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:26.02 | brosioz | anyone could smartctl -s on -d ata --all /dev/sda|grep _Celsius |
| 10:26.17 | brosioz | 50° is normal for and hd or is too hight ? |
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| 10:29.47 | pitillo | hi, good morning, how can I see wich packages are used by another? |
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| 10:30.13 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, is the jigdo for X still unstable? |
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| 10:31.44 | hashbangperl | debhelper, virtual packages? |
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| 10:33.08 | susp3ct | why wouldnt i have write access to a file if i copied it from a ntfs partition? |
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| 10:33.37 | hashbangperl | susp3ct, check the permissions of the file on the ntfs partition? |
| 10:33.39 | duff | jflkdsjf |
| 10:33.57 | stoned | hehe, shoulda been hashbongperl |
| 10:33.59 | SonnyBurnett | susp3ct, Sometimes they are with onlye read permission |
| 10:34.02 | stoned | ahem hehe |
| 10:34.06 | SonnyBurnett | susp3ct, just change the permissions |
| 10:34.21 | hashbangperl | pitillo, there is a way to do it, but I don't know it - no joy with google |
| 10:34.26 | susp3ct | yer i have |
| 10:34.31 | susp3ct | ahh i know now :) |
| 10:34.34 | susp3ct | cheers guys |
| 10:34.48 | SonnyBurnett | susp3ct, but dont try to write in the ntfs partition from linux.... |
| 10:34.51 | hashbangperl | stoned, lame joke |
| 10:35.00 | susp3ct | Sonderblade, yup :D |
| 10:35.14 | susp3ct | Sonderblade, thats the reason yer |
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| 10:35.27 | susp3ct | SonnyBurnett, soz |
| 10:35.28 | stoned | hashbangperl, lame nick |
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| 10:35.46 | azeem | stoned: huh? |
| 10:35.59 | stoned | nothing, im an idiot |
| 10:36.06 | pitillo | hashbangperl, ok, thanks anyway |
| 10:36.22 | hashbangperl | anybody know how to create virtual packages - google isn't very helpful - it can tell me what a virtual package is but not how to make one |
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| 10:36.43 | hashbangperl | pitillo, any joy with google - try your lug list - the debian hippies are *everywhere*! |
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| 10:37.25 | pitillo | hashbangperl, I dont understand you, but thanks :) |
| 10:37.50 | liable | i aint no damn hippie :) |
| 10:38.02 | azeem | hashbangperl: look into equivs, maybe that is what you're after |
| 10:38.15 | hashbangperl | azeem, right |
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| 10:38.39 | hashbangperl | azeem, ah ha |
| 10:38.52 | hashbangperl | google is a bit more useful than that |
| 10:38.57 | RvGaTe | just wondering, where are you guys located, and what are you currently doing besides irc? |
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| 10:39.09 | RvGaTe | and for who |
| 10:39.41 | hashbangperl | azeem, bah - not quite what I need - I want to be able to install 'foo' where foo is a collection of debian packages in our local repo |
| 10:39.48 | liable | RvGaTe: although it would prolly be interesting, its way OT |
| 10:39.50 | hashbangperl | i.e. 'feed management', etc |
| 10:40.31 | RvGaTe | liable: i know, but hey, it sure is interesting to know :) |
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| 10:40.38 | liable | hashbangperl: meaning you want to make a meta package that installs a range of packages?? |
| 10:40.51 | plasmoduck | is there some tool to show all ip's on my network? |
| 10:41.01 | hashbangperl | liable, yes - I gathered it was called a 'virtual package' in debian hippy parlance ;) |
| 10:41.06 | plasmoduck | all the computers |
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| 10:41.15 | liable | RvGaTe: indeed, its always interesting when you find out what some of the people that hang here do. :) |
| 10:41.16 | SonnyBurnett | best way to get a iso of debian? |
| 10:41.16 | hashbangperl | plasmoduck, cheops? |
| 10:41.47 | liable | hashbangperl: i think meta is the best description.. man.. :P |
| 10:42.35 | liable | SonnyBurnett: what do you mean. an install iso? |
| 10:42.45 | SonnyBurnett | yep |
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| 10:43.32 | liable | SonnyBurnett: depends, if you just want a netinst, just download the iso from one of the mirrors, or i think theres torrents |
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| 10:43.50 | liable | SonnyBurnett: for dvd's jidgo is the only way iirc |
| 10:43.54 | SonnyBurnett | liable, the 1st cd |
| 10:44.19 | liable | SonnyBurnett: try a torrent, i got maxed out bandwidth last time i tried it. |
| 10:44.33 | liable | SonnyBurnett: and it saves bandwidth on the mirrors :) |
| 10:45.02 | SonnyBurnett | liable, ok thanks |
| 10:45.10 | hashbangperl | liable, meta-packages seems to be an rpm-ism |
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| 10:45.39 | SonnyBurnett | Have somebody tried little debian? |
| 10:45.51 | liable | hashbangperl: i dont really know anything about rpm, but its a package that depends on other packages, so should do what you need. |
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| 10:46.17 | liable | !meta package |
| 10:46.23 | liable | bleh |
| 10:46.26 | liable | !metapackage |
| 10:46.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 10:46.40 | hashbangperl | !virtualpackage |
| 10:46.45 | hashbangperl | feh |
| 10:46.50 | johnie | Is connecting via X11 to a server though SSH insecure? |
| 10:47.00 | plasmoduck | how do I change the beep length? |
| 10:47.03 | plasmoduck | and freq |
| 10:47.03 | hashbangperl | johnie, why would it be? |
| 10:47.09 | setcode | hello |
| 10:47.09 | liable | hashbangperl: virtual package in debian are generally packages that dont yet exist. |
| 10:47.13 | hashbangperl | ah |
| 10:47.19 | hashbangperl | hence my confusion |
| 10:47.37 | hashbangperl | liable, google is more helpful now I have the right keywords |
| 10:47.42 | hashbangperl | many thanks |
| 10:47.42 | petemc | plasmoduck: setterm -blength N |
| 10:47.44 | liable | hashbangperl: it is confusing |
| 10:47.51 | liable | hashbangperl: np |
| 10:48.42 | johnie | hashbangperl: http://lists.debian.org/debian-knoppix/2004/05/msg00010.html |
| 10:49.13 | MatBoy | How can I make sure that my 17" tft runs @ 60Hz in the xorg.conf ? |
| 10:49.29 | liable | MatBoy: set only 60hz? |
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| 10:51.01 | markit | anyone using EncFS? |
| 10:51.25 | liable | !anyone use EncFs? |
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| 10:51.25 | dpkg | No, no one uses EncFs, not even the people who use it. |
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| 10:51.45 | liable | !tell markit about smart questions |
| 10:51.51 | MatBoy | liable, yes, because it works now on 75Hz |
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| 10:52.12 | liable | MatBoy: even though 60Hz is the only set freq? |
| 10:52.13 | samael | hello |
| 10:52.17 | liable | hola |
| 10:52.22 | siji | hi |
| 10:52.38 | markit | liable: what is the command for dpkg to tell about smart answers? |
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| 10:52.53 | MatBoy | lihow do you mean ? I have a Xinerama-setup wheren my mainmonitor is running a 60Hz and my other 2 17" on the second card run on 75Hz |
| 10:52.55 | liable | markit: /msg dpkg factoid |
| 10:52.58 | siji | anybody can help me to install qgis in knoppix 4.0 |
| 10:53.19 | liable | markit: once you have a query window open just ask it factoid. |
| 10:53.21 | raf256` | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 10:53.21 | raf256` | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.38 | raf256` | what the hell is wrong with debian, I keep getting such messages from time to time with no reason |
| 10:53.43 | pitillo | siji, try in #knoppix better |
| 10:53.51 | siji | ok |
| 10:53.55 | liable | raf256`: dude, the maintainers are trying to hax0r j00! |
| 10:53.57 | raf256` | I updates 2006 dpkg keys like gazilion times |
| 10:54.29 | johnie | raf256`: I think they are after you. |
| 10:54.31 | liable | raf256`: try another mirror |
| 10:54.32 | raf256` | liable: what the fuck for is gpg signed packages if not for using it? and it seem broke |
| 10:54.48 | samael | how can I bind a particular NIC to an eth interface? I tried appending "ether=IRQ,DMA,ethX" parameters to the boot cmdline (the drivers are compiled into the kernel), but it doesn't seem to work. |
| 10:54.51 | liable | raf256`: i havent had problems with it since it came out. |
| 10:55.00 | raf256` | johnie: yes, stupid debian devels inventing PGP signatures, they are silly. |
| 10:55.01 | liable | raf256`: what mirror are you using? |
| 10:55.12 | raf256` | liable: usuall one debian.org |
| 10:55.29 | liable | raf256`: gimme the exact mirror |
| 10:55.50 | liable | samael: ifrename (i think is what you are after) |
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| 10:56.29 | samael | liable: I'll take a look. thanks! |
| 10:56.42 | liable | you're welcome |
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| 10:57.20 | wombachi | (trying again) why is php5-mysqli not packaged by Debian? Any technical reason perhaps? Or simply not having enough time to do it ? |
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| 10:57.41 | liable | wombachi: in which version? |
| 10:57.46 | liable | of debian |
| 10:57.51 | Gnea | wombachi: it is |
| 10:58.02 | wombachi | liable: all, afaik |
| 10:58.12 | Rydekull | perhaps im just ignorant and have missed any project that has developed, but is there any project in debian like for example a RHN Satellite |
| 10:58.34 | wombachi | Gnea: php5-mysql is, but I'm talking about php5-mysqli. I dont see it in packages.debian.org (yesterday at last) |
| 10:58.54 | Gnea | wombachi: oh, nafaik.. dunno what the 'i' is about |
| 10:58.58 | liable | wombachi: was the i at the end significant or a typo? |
| 10:59.09 | wombachi | Question was asked without response in oct 2005 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg03074.html |
| 10:59.15 | k-man_ | ping chanserv |
| 10:59.17 | k-man_ | oops |
| 10:59.27 | liable | !ping k-man_ |
| 10:59.31 | liable | :) |
| 10:59.41 | wombachi | not a typo : mysqli is another php ext than mysql, supporting more mysql 5 functionnalities |
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| 11:00.33 | liable | wombachi: i guess you better follow the usual channels for requests for packaging then |
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| 11:01.33 | wombachi | liable: you mean filling a request in the BTS? Hope PHP maintainers wont kill me, as maintaining PHP is not a dream :) |
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| 11:02.36 | liable | wombachi: no, theres channels for filing a request other than bts. i dont have a link handy though :( |
| 11:03.39 | wombachi | liable: I guess there's doc somewhere on debian.org/devel ? |
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| 11:03.49 | stoned | n |
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| 11:04.46 | liable | wombachi: yah, somewhere. sec i'll see if i can find it |
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| 11:04.57 | SonnyBurnett | Where is faster to download from? from a ftp server or a http server? |
| 11:05.23 | RvGaTe | SonnyBurnett: depends on the connection |
| 11:05.29 | emergion | Hello all, I am using fdisk and mkfs.vfat under debian how ever when I boot into windows I cannot see the partition, its strange as I can mount it fine under *nix |
| 11:05.44 | SonnyBurnett | RvGaTe, suppose same conditions |
| 11:05.51 | liable | wombachi: in the nm guide iirc.. searching |
| 11:06.02 | RvGaTe | SonnyBurnett: they should go the same speed if the connection is the same |
| 11:06.02 | emergion | Is there something I may be doing wrong under debian, this is just a mass stoarage device im fixing my grandads pc |
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| 11:06.25 | wombachi | liable: ok, searching too |
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| 11:08.37 | wombachi | liable: I dont find this in the nm guide. Perhaps I should send a mail to the PHP maintainers? I just found this: pkg-php-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org |
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| 11:08.52 | liable | wombachi: hrm, maybe you do need to file a bug |
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| 11:09.34 | liable | wombachi: i am on dilaup atm and getting emails so my googlr foo is slow :) |
| 11:09.50 | liable | and i cant spell again.. :( |
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| 11:10.59 | wombachi | liable ok, thanks. And never mind, it's allways the keyboards' fault. Damn keyboards :) |
| 11:11.05 | johnie | I have set X11Forwarding yes in /etc/sshd_config and I restarted sshd, but I still can't run X applications. (cannot open display) |
| 11:11.21 | wombachi | johnie do use connect via ssh -X ... ? |
| 11:11.24 | liable | heh :) , nah, its me.. |
| 11:11.26 | johnie | wombachi: yes |
| 11:11.42 | johnie | wombachi: Well, ssh ... -X <machine name> |
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| 11:11.54 | johnie | wombachi: order shouldn't matter, right? |
| 11:12.02 | liable | do you have ssh-agent?? ( ithink thats the one you need) |
| 11:12.09 | wombachi | johnie: it usually works for me. Dont know. Perhaps some firewall issue. |
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| 11:12.29 | johnie | wombachi: everything goes over ssh, right? |
| 11:12.41 | johnie | wombachi: doesn't sound like a firewall issue to me. |
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| 11:12.45 | johnie | liable: no |
| 11:12.46 | stoned | no |
| 11:12.59 | stoned | but you can create tunnels yourself |
| 11:13.02 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 11:13.15 | stoned | for example, if you go ssh -X audio wont' be sent through ssh |
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| 11:13.25 | mynullvoid | why is that VI in edit mode : the up arrow key produce A? |
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| 11:13.44 | wombachi | johnie: if port 22 is accessible and X running, it should be fine, you're right |
| 11:14.01 | mynullvoid | VI in edit mode: the left arrow key produce D |
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| 11:14.25 | wombachi | mynullvoid Perhaps vi dont use the curses lib. Just use vim, not vi |
| 11:15.05 | Sonderblade | which package does dh_make come from? |
| 11:15.23 | mynullvoid | wombashi: how can I remove VI and use VIM (which is installed) instead |
| 11:15.25 | wombachi | Sonderblade try dpkg -S $(which dh_make) |
| 11:15.34 | crazy_penguin | hello everybody. |
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| 11:15.48 | Sonderblade | wombachi: tried, dpkg doesn't find a dh_make binary anywhere |
| 11:15.58 | DarkCow | Sonderblade, http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 11:16.10 | DarkCow | at the bottom, you can search for package contents |
| 11:16.18 | wombachi | Sonderblade perhaps debhelper? |
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| 11:16.31 | DarkCow | it seems to be in package dh-make |
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| 11:17.02 | liable | !tell Sonderblade about search |
| 11:17.10 | johnie | stoned: what do you mean? |
| 11:17.30 | plasmoduck | whats the relay option do in psybnc? |
| 11:17.43 | stoned | audio traffic wont be sent through ssh |
| 11:17.44 | plasmoduck | in the link section |
| 11:17.48 | bliss_ | hi |
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| 11:18.09 | stoned | audio will remian on the remote pc being logged into and ran applicatinos on, it will not soun don local pc |
| 11:18.26 | cromo | Hi. I have installed php5 from backports and libapache-mod-php5 - does the related entry in apache/modules.conf should be added automagically with by the libapache-mod-php5 itself? With php4 I didn't have to add it manually, AFIR. |
| 11:18.37 | wombachi | mynullvoid: if you have vim, it should be OK. vim can "emulate" vi, but it should not be the default. |
| 11:18.49 | mceKernelPanic | hi |
| 11:19.06 | johnie | stoned: You are not helping me. |
| 11:19.10 | bliss_ | if i cannot boot from a usb device because my BIOS does not have that functionis there another way? |
| 11:19.14 | wombachi | cromo: just check modules.conf and update it if needed |
| 11:19.17 | mynullvoid | wombachi: so how do I make it default? |
| 11:19.48 | liable | cromo: tried dpkg-reconfigure apache?? |
| 11:19.52 | stoned | johnie, you asked |
| 11:20.06 | cromo | liable: not apache, only libapache-mod... |
| 11:20.14 | orjan | I have correct chars in console ( swedish powerpc stable) but in X I lack the chars I get in combination with "right apple" ( alt-gr on a pc), that is "bar" "at" etc. I do have the umlauts. What to check? |
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| 11:20.34 | mceKernelPanic | i've just bought a new motherboard and proccessor, an AMD64 3200+, and, when booting ubuntu live, sometimes something goes wrong and it ends in a kernel panic: |
| 11:20.34 | wombachi | mynullvoid. Dont know. Perhaps try reinstalling it |
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| 11:20.49 | mynullvoid | ok |
| 11:20.52 | mceKernelPanic | CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 4 Bank 4: b20000000000070F0F TSC 3eb4f7a737 |
| 11:21.09 | mceKernelPanic | kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check exception |
| 11:21.13 | johnie | stoned: The DISPLAY variable is not being set on the machine where I login. What can I do about that? I already am using -X |
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| 11:21.31 | mceKernelPanic | browsing the web, i've found this thread in kerneltrap: |
| 11:21.36 | mceKernelPanic | http://kerneltrap.org/node/4993 |
| 11:21.38 | azeem | johnie: check that yuo have xauth (?) installed on the server |
| 11:21.46 | azeem | xbase-clients, really |
| 11:21.51 | mceKernelPanic | but it's a little bit old, from 2005 |
| 11:22.06 | orjan | mceKernelPanic: since ubuntu uses it's own kernels you might get better help in #ubuntu |
| 11:22.17 | mceKernelPanic | ok |
| 11:22.20 | mceKernelPanic | thanks orjan |
| 11:22.24 | wombachi | mceKernelPanic: hardware problem. Try replacing the RAM. Last time I had that issue (AMD, years ago), replacing the motherboard solved it |
| 11:22.52 | DarkCow | Imwheel is misbehaving, or something is causing it to misbehave |
| 11:23.04 | azeem | DarkCow: imwheel is legacy |
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| 11:23.13 | wombachi | mceKernelPanic: MCE means there are hardware checks support, and it seems you are not lucky |
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| 11:23.42 | DarkCow | azeem, what's the alternative for mapping mouse buttons to keyboard actions? |
| 11:23.43 | wombachi | mceKernelPanic: To avoid seeing MCE messages, you can build a kernel without MCE support. But it's better to have it, as you are informed about hardware problems |
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| 11:25.10 | johnie | azeem: check |
| 11:26.01 | johnie | Restarting sshd is done by /etc/init.d/ssh restart, right? |
| 11:26.09 | lilo_booter | is there a quick way to determine all the dependencies of an installed package? (ie: like synaptic does, but from a command line) |
| 11:26.14 | azeem | johnie: yes |
| 11:26.27 | azeem | lilo_booter: apt-cache show <package> | grep Depends |
| 11:26.42 | lilo_booter | azeem: cheers :-) |
| 11:27.27 | mceKernelPanic | thanks wombachi |
| 11:27.28 | mceKernelPanic | but |
| 11:27.29 | johnie | azeem: Then I have no idea why the DISPLAY variable is not being set when I do ssh ... -X machinename |
| 11:27.40 | mceKernelPanic | i've run a memtest for hours and hours |
| 11:27.44 | mceKernelPanic | and no error found |
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| 11:27.57 | maxb | I'm seeing an uninstallable package in amd64-etch - as best I can see, the xorg-x11 binNMU didn't upload an updated version of one of its binaries: xserver-common. Where's the proper place to report a seemingly-malfunctioned binNMU? |
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| 11:31.53 | DarkCow | azeem, what should I use instead of imwheel? |
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| 11:32.28 | azeem | DarkCow: AFAIK you just configure X correctly |
| 11:32.48 | DarkCow | Hmm |
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| 11:33.05 | DarkCow | I can't find any decent docs for the inputdevice section |
| 11:33.23 | cyzie | when you check a groups of files using cksfv, then it reported got corrupted file. say file 22. then when you redownload the file again and cksfv the sfv fiel again, again it report the error. anyone have this expericence before? |
| 11:33.27 | DarkCow | as in docs that tell me what options are available |
| 11:33.46 | liable | maxb: for 64 stuff, your prolly better off asking in #debian-amd64 (which is a fairly quiet channel, so be patient :) |
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| 11:35.59 | liable | mceKernelPanic: as orjan said, ask ubuntu, or try a vanilla kernel |
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| 11:41.12 | petn-randall | hi @all |
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| 11:42.11 | tdi | hi |
| 11:42.22 | tdi | where does dpkg-buildpackage store some cache ? |
| 11:42.28 | orjan | DarkCow: for a wheel mouse I use ImPS/2 |
| 11:42.36 | tdi | we changed the version and it wants the old one |
| 11:42.48 | DarkCow | Ah, but this isn't just a wheel mouse |
| 11:42.56 | DarkCow | it has 7 buttons |
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| 11:43.11 | azeem | tdi: please paste the error message to a pastebin |
| 11:43.13 | azeem | !paster |
| 11:43.13 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 11:43.13 | DarkCow | and I want to map the extra two to keyboard actions |
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| 11:45.00 | tdi | azeem: the prpblem is: we copied debian subdirectory from hylafax-server source deb to the hylafax-4.3.0 source tree, we changed versions everywhere from 4.2.5 to 4.3.0, but is still says something about the 4.2.5 source directories |
| 11:45.17 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:46.08 | tdi | azeem: nope |
| 11:46.19 | formorer | tada! |
| 11:46.19 | azeem | there you go |
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| 11:47.56 | MicroChip32 | how do i set up iptables rules so they get restored on boot. all mine seem to disappear when i reboot |
| 11:49.03 | ubun | lieschen onde estas? |
| 11:49.23 | orjan | !es |
| 11:49.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:49.43 | liable | azeem: if its the same person (from last night), ubun needs a kick |
| 11:49.43 | ubun | não vo |
| 11:49.49 | ubun | no |
| 11:49.53 | ubun | para |
| 11:50.15 | azeem | ubun: please speak english in here, or go to #debian-es |
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| 11:50.29 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: You want to use iptables-save and iptables-restore |
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| 11:51.43 | ubun | vão todos a #debian-pt para resolver proglemas portugueses |
| 11:51.47 | ubun | ok |
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| 11:52.09 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : that much i know, but where do i put the commands to get em run at boot ? |
| 11:52.21 | azeem | ubun: last warning |
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| 11:52.44 | lehel | hello |
| 11:52.44 | MatBoy | Can anyone provide me a patched kernel ? Or are they somewhere for download, or is patching them really easy ? |
| 11:52.53 | lehel | i need some help with a package.. |
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| 11:53.26 | liable | MatBoy: it certainly isnt hard. google will supply you with the neccesary knowledge. (or man patch :) |
| 11:53.28 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: don't the man pages say anything about it ? |
| 11:53.56 | lehel | http://pastebin.ca/59884 .. i can't deal with it ;\\ |
| 11:53.59 | petn-randall | MatBoy: Sure, I can patch your kernel if you want ! Muahahahaha |
| 11:54.07 | lehel | i read some bugs, but still can't manage |
| 11:54.09 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : how to use -save and -restore yes, but not how/where to get em run at boot |
| 11:54.22 | MatBoy | liable, I'm scared to let this system crash, but as long as I keep my old kernel :) It would nog be a problem |
| 11:54.25 | azeem | lehel: seems that package is broken |
| 11:54.37 | azeem | lehel: did you get it from ftp.debian.org or a third party repo? |
| 11:54.46 | MatBoy | petn-randall, Do I get fancy stuff in it ?? :p |
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| 11:55.17 | liable | MatBoy: well if you are gonna reboot for a new kernel, i cant see how it would be a problem if it fails, just reboot into the good one. what patch btw? |
| 11:55.17 | lehel | azeem: i've just "apt-get"-ed a while ago, then i erased some files |
| 11:55.32 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: I'd just write a little own script that get started on boot |
| 11:55.35 | lehel | azeem: and now i can't remove/install back |
| 11:55.54 | MatBoy | liable, no indeed :) But never patched it before. the patch for 2.6.16-1 |
| 11:56.06 | azeem | lehel: what happens when you remove? |
| 11:56.16 | petn-randall | MatBoy: Definitely ... do you want a rootkit ? :P |
| 11:56.18 | liable | MatBoy: erm, yes thats the kernel, whats the patch? |
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| 11:56.30 | azeem | lehel: try to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server and comment out the lines which make it fail |
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| 11:56.40 | MatBoy | petn-randall, yeah !! please... if you pay for the bandwith you use :p |
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| 11:56.55 | MatBoy | liable, following the kernel.org, it's a patch |
| 11:56.57 | petn-randall | MatBoy: deal |
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| 11:57.14 | cklaus | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.19 | ubun | agora vão a http://pastebin.ca/59886 |
| 11:57.20 | liable | MatBoy: gah! what is the actuall patch for? |
| 11:57.20 | ubun | ok |
| 11:57.35 | MatBoy | petn-randall, my bandwith is very expensive... for years between 4 walls.... cheap enough ?? ;) |
| 11:57.37 | lehel | azeem: can i remove those files? |
| 11:57.38 | ubun | escrevi uma coisa |
| 11:57.39 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : blah, i can do that of course, but i figured there must be a standard script for that already that i just dont have activated |
| 11:58.11 | MatBoy | liable, I need a latest version. I have a lot of performance problems with xorg/nvidia and kde |
| 11:58.15 | ubun | dexão vou para a escola |
| 11:58.17 | MatBoy | so I want to try a later kernel |
| 11:58.18 | ubun | ok |
| 11:58.20 | lpb-oberon | dateless date or date dateless - what is better? |
| 11:58.23 | ubun | te ja |
| 11:58.28 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: I looked for one, but never found it ... The Easy Way (tm) for me was adding a little 5-line script |
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| 11:58.56 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : lol, ok =) |
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| 11:59.27 | cplx | anyone know much about networking? |
| 11:59.32 | cplx | [19:56] <cplx> can someone please assist? I have a billion modem here.. I have an additional IP block of 4.. Im at the static routing page.. it asks for Destination, Netmask, Gateway |
| 11:59.32 | cplx | [19:56] <cplx> my IP block = 203.xxx.xxx.252/255.255.255.252 |
| 11:59.41 | liable | MatBoy: latest version of what? you keep saying you need to patch the kernel, but you dont say what for |
| 11:59.49 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: thinking of ... you could add the iptables-restore <blah> line to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:00.08 | azeem | lehel: what is "those files"? |
| 12:00.18 | MatBoy | liable, because on kernel.org.... 2.6.16-1 is a patch, not a whole kernel |
| 12:00.19 | MicroChip32 | is that a script, or just a config file ? i thought it was just a config file |
| 12:00.19 | lehel | azeem: from /var/lib/dpkg.... |
| 12:00.27 | fericitu_ | i had installed KDE on my server ...and when i type startx ...i recive a msg and it tell me ... : |
| 12:00.27 | fericitu_ | xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server |
| 12:00.28 | fericitu_ | xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. |
| 12:00.42 | fericitu_ | what i muèst to do ? |
| 12:00.51 | azeem | lehel: mldonkey-server.*rm are probably safe to delete, yes |
| 12:00.53 | petn-randall | MatBoy: Newest kernel is 2.6.16.18 |
| 12:01.01 | liable | MatBoy: oh, ffs why didnt you say that :) there is a full kernel version there too.. |
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| 12:01.44 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: You can add a "pre-up" line to you network configuration |
| 12:01.49 | MatBoy | liable, ok !! than I have to find that :) petn-randall: isn't that a beta ? |
| 12:02.25 | plasmoduck | $ sudo killall -q psybnc |
| 12:02.25 | plasmoduck | eggdrop@debian:~/psybnc$ ps auxww | grep psybnc | grep -v grep |
| 12:02.26 | plasmoduck | root 7122 0.0 0.9 3428 1508 pts/0 S 06:48 0:00 ./psybnc |
| 12:02.28 | plasmoduck | wtf? |
| 12:02.30 | petn-randall | MatBoy: WTF ??? http://www.kernel.org plz |
| 12:02.41 | MatBoy | petn-randall, sorry ! my misstake :) |
| 12:02.46 | MatBoy | that is the patch :) |
| 12:02.51 | petn-randall | :) |
| 12:02.56 | liable | MatBoy: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.18.tar.bz2 |
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| 12:03.09 | plasmoduck | how do I kill it? |
| 12:03.17 | MatBoy | so I need to patch the 2.6.16-1 with the 2.6.16-18 |
| 12:03.38 | petn-randall | MatBoy: So you have the *sources* of 2.6.16 ? |
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| 12:03.57 | bliss_ | hey |
| 12:04.00 | liable | MatBoy: that link is for the whole kernel, not a patch. |
| 12:04.10 | MatBoy | liable, I see it ! Thanks !! |
| 12:04.12 | bliss_ | can i boot into sarge from a live cd? |
| 12:04.17 | MatBoy | petn-randall, no I have to download them |
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| 12:04.32 | bliss_ | amphi: hi |
| 12:04.39 | petn-randall | MatBoy: Ok, just download the tarball that liable pointed you to |
| 12:04.46 | liable | bliss_: you can chroot into sarge from a live cd yes, or the install disk. |
| 12:05.12 | bliss_ | liable: how are things long no hear thanks |
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| 12:05.23 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : ok got it, or i can dump a script into the /etc/network/if-up.d/ directory too. that'll work |
| 12:05.31 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : thanks |
| 12:05.35 | MatBoy | petn-randall, and the sources I guess ? On Sarge I just APT-GET the stuff before, was easier.. so I have to find my new way now :) |
| 12:05.36 | liable | bliss_: good, i am on holidays :) |
| 12:05.55 | bliss_ | liable; in aussie |
| 12:06.03 | liable | yerp |
| 12:06.04 | petn-randall | MatBoy: Those _are_ the sources ... |
| 12:06.18 | bliss_ | wo nice gold coast here we come |
| 12:06.19 | liable | dont have enough money to go overseas :( |
| 12:06.29 | MatBoy | petn-randall, damn.. :S what am I talking about |
| 12:06.34 | MatBoy | I mean the headers :S |
| 12:06.51 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: I think all scripts in if-up.d are started for all interfaces ... if that is what you want. |
| 12:07.10 | MatBoy | petn-randall, do you have experience with nvidia under Debain ? |
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| 12:07.24 | bliss_ | liable: i say gold coast because many moons ago i read a book about the gol coast of aussie |
| 12:07.26 | liable | bliss_: thats almost freaky, i was gonna go there, but i'm not going anymore. |
| 12:07.39 | MicroChip32 | petn-randall : yes but get passed the name of the interface so can detect that |
| 12:07.39 | petn-randall | ATI ! |
| 12:07.48 | bliss_ | gold |
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| 12:08.02 | MatBoy | petn-randall, mhhh. I have to find out if it's needed to enable something in the kernel for it |
| 12:08.22 | bliss_ | liable: how do i boot from the installation disk in sarge on hd? |
| 12:08.39 | petn-randall | MicroChip32: yeah, right. Do it the way that suits you best :) |
| 12:08.40 | liable | bliss_: can i /msg you? |
| 12:08.50 | bliss_ | liable: ok |
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| 12:09.18 | jerome | grrrr, wifi is all I need to fall in madness. I have an 'almost working' module, wich can do almost anything except attaching to the AP |
| 12:09.21 | jerome | GRR |
| 12:10.00 | liable | jerome: real info would help us diagnose |
| 12:10.18 | bliss_ | liable: do you see the message |
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| 12:10.55 | liable | bliss_: i /msg'd you. you didnt get it?? |
| 12:11.13 | bliss_ | liable; yes |
| 12:11.28 | bliss_ | did you see the reply |
| 12:11.43 | liable | bliss_: no, are you registered? |
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| 12:11.51 | bliss_ | just a sec |
| 12:13.00 | bliss_ | liable: ok its done you can see now |
| 12:13.08 | liable | yeah |
| 12:13.10 | jerome | liable: I can't get the wifi card to associate with the AP. The card seems to work fine as iwlist finds the AP, the signal seems ok ... |
| 12:13.22 | jerome | it just can't associate |
| 12:13.36 | jerome | it is a ralink RT2570 based card |
| 12:13.49 | liable | jerome: paste your commands and ifconfig, iwconfig and route output to paster |
| 12:13.50 | jerome | which used to work fine with other AP btw |
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| 12:14.47 | amphi | hi bliss_ |
| 12:15.39 | bliss_ | amphi: hi |
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| 12:16.14 | MatBoy | liable, do i need the nvidia-kernel-module when I use an nvidiacard ? |
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| 12:16.27 | jerome | liable: this is going to be difficult as the machine is off the lan. |
| 12:16.52 | jerome | association problem is common with ralink's |
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| 12:18.18 | liable | MatBoy: ew, i havent ever had a nvidia card, so i am prolly of little use. |
| 12:18.40 | MatBoy | liable, No problem... it could be you knew :) |
| 12:19.13 | RvGaTe | !seen ic3man05 |
| 12:19.14 | dpkg | ic3man05 is currently on #debian (6h 30m). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 4h 36m 20s |
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| 12:19.46 | liable | jerome: hrm, cant plug it into wired? |
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| 12:20.33 | apt-get | is there a switch that will show in a traceroute? |
| 12:20.38 | apt-get | a bit like iptables forwarding does |
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| 12:21.14 | lastnode | which package is dh_make in? |
| 12:21.23 | liable | dh-make????? |
| 12:21.37 | blondie | apt-get: only routers show in traceroute |
| 12:21.50 | apt-get | but I've seen some cisco switches that show in traceroute |
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| 12:21.54 | apt-get | im just wondering which models |
| 12:21.54 | liable | has dh-make been in digg or something?? |
| 12:22.02 | jerome | liable: unfortunatly not |
| 12:22.03 | blondie | apt-get: probably because they do routing |
| 12:22.11 | apt-get | they don't |
| 12:22.29 | jerome | liable: no RJ45 there ( :'( ) |
| 12:22.29 | blondie | ask in #networking |
| 12:22.35 | apt-get | thx |
| 12:23.38 | quitte | liable: kernel-package |
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| 12:23.42 | Esaj | anyone having problems with alsa in unstable |
| 12:23.43 | Esaj | ? |
| 12:23.55 | ft | Esaj: check the BTS |
| 12:23.56 | azeem | Esaj: upgrade to libasound2 -7 |
| 12:23.59 | liable | quitte: am i making a kernel? |
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| 12:24.21 | streuner | !info dh_make |
| 12:24.29 | quitte | liable: ugh. sorry blurry view. that was total nonsense |
| 12:24.34 | liable | :) |
| 12:24.48 | darkskiez | I've got a problem, my postinst script just stalls after the last line if I try using debconf, and i'm not sure why this might be |
| 12:24.53 | Esaj | azeem: I already have... do I need to reboot or something? |
| 12:25.04 | azeem | Esaj: restart your X session, maybe |
| 12:25.20 | Esaj | ok, brb :) |
| 12:25.39 | streuner | !info dh-make |
| 12:25.41 | dpkg | dh-make: (tool that converts source archives into Debian package source), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.40 (sid), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 380 kB |
| 12:25.58 | azeem | streuner: please /msg the bot |
| 12:26.30 | streuner | azeem: scroll up, that was an answer for ladnode |
| 12:26.42 | streuner | s/ladnode/lastnode/ |
| 12:26.45 | azeem | streuner: 14:14 < liable> dh-make????? |
| 12:27.11 | lastnode | thanks streuner, im trying to make a .deb for gnuzilla |
| 12:27.14 | lastnode | :) |
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| 12:30.31 | streuner | lastnode: /msg dpkg nm guide |
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| 12:30.44 | MatBoy | liable, When I download the source I untar it, and have made my config... I can't use make-kpkg. I alsways could when I installed the sourde with apt-get |
| 12:30.50 | lastnode | thanks streuner |
| 12:31.00 | streuner | lastnode: you're welcome. |
| 12:31.10 | MatBoy | liable, found it |
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| 12:31.41 | liable | MatBoy: sorted? |
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| 12:31.59 | MatBoy | liable, yes, missed the kernel-package :) |
| 12:32.06 | liable | :) |
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| 12:32.41 | MatBoy | liable, I can recognize some things that you forget... I run CentOS on my servers and that is upgrading the Kernel itself |
| 12:32.57 | MatBoy | liable, BTW... on my Celeron.... 486 was set a processor, oops :) |
| 12:33.05 | MatBoy | a=as |
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| 12:34.22 | MatBoy | liable, should it gives problems with the performance... processortype 486 instead of P4 Celeron ? |
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| 12:35.40 | liable | MatBoy: check the processor options. theres one for p4 iirc |
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| 12:36.07 | MatBoy | liable, I have done that, the kernel is in the bakery now :) |
| 12:36.21 | Elbac | hi everybody |
| 12:36.22 | liable | ok |
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| 12:36.45 | MatBoy | liable, But I hope my system is faster when I chose P4 instead of 486 :) |
| 12:36.57 | liable | MatBoy: prolly not |
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| 12:37.15 | MatBoy | liable, why is that option there than ? for suboptions like HT ? |
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| 12:38.21 | lastnode | what's the difference between using dh_make and dpkg -b? |
| 12:38.27 | liable | MatBoy: well, it is optimised, but i dont know how much fifference it makes. you would have to ask a kernel guru i guess. |
| 12:39.18 | MatBoy | liable, I'm already doing that. But I may hope it does something :) |
| 12:39.30 | liable | MatBoy: you would hope so :) |
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| 12:39.41 | streuner | lastnode: well, read man dh_make and man dpkg |
| 12:39.59 | lastnode | streuner, ive just done that. they both seem to do the same thing? |
| 12:40.00 | MatBoy | liable, :) |
| 12:40.08 | lastnode | although the nm does say to use dh_make |
| 12:40.53 | quitte | any idea why my rtl-8169 nic appears as eth2 instead of eth0? |
| 12:41.33 | liable | lastnode: for a real larting, you could ask the debian-mentors mailing list :) |
| 12:41.44 | lastnode | :\ |
| 12:42.06 | azeem | lastnode: dh_make prepares an upstream source tree with Debian specific build stuff |
| 12:42.09 | azeem | dpkg -b builds a .deb |
| 12:42.20 | azeem | the two are pretty non-overlapping in what they're doing |
| 12:42.39 | lastnode | oh i see |
| 12:43.17 | azeem | to be more precise, dpkg -b is the absolutely last step in building a .deb, everything needs to be in the proper place by that time |
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| 12:44.03 | liable | dpkg -b builds a debian ready source? and dh-make starts the process of making a debian source? |
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| 12:44.49 | azeem | liable: no, dpkg -b assembles a .deb from a ready-made debian/<package>/{DEBIAN,usr} tree |
| 12:44.58 | azeem | it's a glorified tar/ar incarnation |
| 12:46.02 | Rippey | i have a sound problem since my sid dist upgrade 2 days ago, kernel has changed, lot of lib has too, here is what i get : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2681 if anyone has some clue |
| 12:46.36 | azeem | Rippey: upgrade to libasound2 -7 and restart X |
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| 12:47.14 | kombi | how do you send a mail attachment from command line? |
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| 12:47.58 | azeem | kombi: I guess that depends on your command-line mail-sending tool |
| 12:48.11 | kombi | azeem: being mail.. |
| 12:48.12 | MatBoy | liable, if I get some performance... we get some beer together :) |
| 12:48.21 | azeem | I'm not sure many people in here do that frequently, so better reads its documentation, maybe you cannot |
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| 12:49.53 | liable | MatBoy: your shouting? i hope you have a fairly fat wallet if you are inviting me to free beer :) |
| 12:50.02 | me | Can I search for a certain hexadecimal string using grep? If so, how? If not, what command to use? |
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| 12:50.32 | MatBoy | liable, haha... we have Dutch beer here... you will get much more sooner drunk than you wil know :p |
| 12:50.39 | liable | isnt there hex tools for that kind of thing? |
| 12:51.06 | liable | MatBoy: oooh, yeah, would like dutch beer i think. |
| 12:51.12 | me | I want to search a number of files, not each file separately |
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| 12:51.23 | MatBoy | liable, :) |
| 12:51.25 | kombi | azeem: mail [recipien] < file does it..;) |
| 12:51.31 | MatBoy | I'm getting some thea first ! |
| 12:51.36 | MatBoy | tea |
| 12:51.38 | MatBoy | :) |
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| 12:51.59 | Rippey | thanks azeem , i began crazy yesterday when i got an artsd crash popup every 5 sec ;) |
| 12:52.00 | MatBoy | liable, compiling on a Celeron 3Ghz is not that fast :p |
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| 12:53.19 | liable | MatBoy: meh, my 1.5 does a kernel in 13 mins usually |
| 12:53.27 | liable | though its a M |
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| 12:53.34 | MatBoy | liable, Celeron ? |
| 12:53.37 | MatBoy | liable, OK |
| 12:54.25 | MatBoy | liable, the strange thing is that my FF are opening faster when the kernel is compiling @ 100% CPU :S |
| 12:54.45 | sussudio | what's the difference between a GF2 and a GF2MX? |
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| 12:55.04 | liable | erm, the MX :P |
| 12:55.13 | sussudio | !do liable |
| 12:55.15 | sussudio | :-| |
| 12:55.16 | fwest | has anyone here got apache ldap auth working agsinst AD ? |
| 12:55.36 | MatBoy | !love liable |
| 12:56.03 | liable | ok, thats enough bot love for me for one night. |
| 12:56.05 | MatBoy | !kiss liable |
| 12:56.10 | MatBoy | :P |
| 12:56.22 | sussudio | !bear MatBoy |
| 12:56.55 | MatBoy | !slam the bear of sussudio |
| 12:57.01 | jelly-ho | sussudio: Generally MXs are crippled in some way, usually half memory width, or half pipes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_gpu |
| 12:57.02 | MatBoy | oops :D |
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| 12:57.29 | sussudio | jelly-ho: i see. can't say i noticed much difference. |
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| 12:57.35 | Coweater | not the geforce2 mx |
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| 12:57.50 | Wurstbrot | hi |
| 12:57.57 | Wurstbrot | i have a kernel question |
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| 12:59.04 | jelly-ho | sussudio: dunno, probably visible in games. but it could be other hw is the limiting factor (ie cpu) |
| 12:59.08 | Wurstbrot | im compiling a 2.6.16.17 kernel, how do i get it to be i686 mines always i386 |
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| 13:00.01 | Wurstbrot | when i run menuconfig it starts with arch i386 why is that? |
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| 13:01.11 | Ryushin | I'm building some deb packages, and I'm having problems telling dpkg how to sign the package. I keep getting this error "gpg: skipped "Ryushin <myemailaddress>": secret key not available". How do I provide my secret key to dpkg-buildpackage? |
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| 13:01.45 | marco13185 | what's the command to see the kernel I'm running? |
| 13:01.45 | liable | Wurstbrot: ignore it. |
| 13:01.53 | blondie | uname -a |
| 13:01.53 | Ryushin | I've already created my public and private key in .gnupg. |
| 13:01.59 | liable | MatBoy: uname -r |
| 13:02.04 | liable | bleh |
| 13:02.18 | liable | !lart me |
| 13:02.21 | Wurstbrot | i did, but now i want to install some packages for i686 and they tell me i have the wrong arch |
| 13:02.27 | liable | ohnos |
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| 13:02.35 | MatBoy | liable, uname -r ? for what ? |
| 13:02.43 | marco13185 | odd, would you say that this kernel: kernel 2.6.8-2-686 is newer than this one: 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 13:02.58 | liable | MatBoy: nevermind, nicktab fuckage |
| 13:03.27 | liable | marco13185: erm, no. |
| 13:03.28 | MatBoy | liable, you want to f*ck me ?? I don't give you beer anymore |
| 13:03.30 | MatBoy | :P |
| 13:03.43 | marco13185 | liable, for some reason, dist-upgrade wants to install the former, when I have the latter |
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| 13:04.42 | liable | marco13185: well, you have done some funky things to sarge then, yes? |
| 13:04.50 | marco13185 | liable, sid |
| 13:05.03 | marco13185 | actually, it appears to just be an erroneous error report |
| 13:05.12 | marco13185 | the actual new kernel installing is newer than the current one |
| 13:05.25 | liable | !lart marco13185 |
| 13:05.32 | marco13185 | eww, aol |
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| 13:05.58 | liable | root: log in as a user then come back |
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| 13:06.27 | jigsore | i don't know |
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| 13:08.12 | Wurstbrot | can anybody tell me how i enable i686 support in menuconfig? |
| 13:08.31 | liable | !wayc Wurstbrot |
| 13:08.31 | dpkg | Wurstbrot: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 13:09.13 | orjan | To get my keyboard to work correct I changed in a keycode value in /etc/X11/xkb/keykodes/xfree86 ( powerpc swedish). I guess it's not the correct place, if ot what file should it be? |
| 13:09.14 | Wurstbrot | because i have i915gm graphices and stuff that needs newer kernel |
| 13:09.16 | liable | i swear we get get either homework questions or digg.com people here |
| 13:09.32 | jigsore | /help |
| 13:09.38 | Wurstbrot | and i want to to get rid of some stuff, like amateur radio support |
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| 13:09.54 | Wurstbrot | who ever needed that anyway? |
| 13:10.50 | Wurstbrot | ah, and sound didnt work in the original kernel, had to enable some things |
| 13:10.53 | liable | amatuer radio people? |
| 13:11.06 | sussudio | !eat Wurstbrot |
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| 13:11.36 | Wurstbrot | yes, give it to me |
| 13:11.56 | liable | !fuck Wurstbrot |
| 13:11.59 | Wurstbrot | so what can i do qabout this? please dont say apt-get |
| 13:12.03 | liable | sorry |
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| 13:12.13 | Wurstbrot | no problem, have fun |
| 13:12.16 | azeem | liable: stop abusing the bot |
| 13:12.19 | liable | hrm, no !fuck cmd? :( |
| 13:12.41 | liable | azeem: oh, c'mon. one command? |
| 13:12.53 | azeem | liable: uhm, read scrollback? |
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| 13:12.54 | wdamn | Hi, anyone know if debian will continue to support powerpc architecture, even if apple gave up to use it? |
| 13:13.11 | liable | azeem: for myself? |
| 13:13.15 | azeem | yes |
| 13:13.30 | azeem | liable: feel free to use those abusive bot commands *amongst regulars* |
| 13:13.39 | azeem | but please refrain from harassing users |
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| 13:15.04 | nukeu666 | im trying to forward X to my comp...i have putty and xming running, X11forwarding in sshd_config is also 'yes' but when i try to run xxloxk on putty...i get 'cant open display: ee.iitkgp.ernet.in:10.0' |
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| 13:15.37 | nukeu666 | should i set DISPLAY as soemthign else? |
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| 13:15.46 | Ryushin | nukeu666: Did you restart SSH? |
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| 13:15.58 | aquatix | hi all |
| 13:16.06 | nukeu666 | i did /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 13:16.15 | Wurstbrot | come on, is this some option in menuconfig i cant find, or what? |
| 13:16.19 | liable | azeem: c'mon, i larted a sid user, then wanted to fuck another. i am all for not being a bot abuser, but fair go. |
| 13:16.28 | aquatix | anybody knows what's wrong when a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't show the config tool? |
| 13:16.29 | Ryushin | nukeu666: Did you log in and log back out again after restarting ssh? |
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| 13:16.44 | noshadow | is there anywhere a list of current network cards with DVI output that work (2D only) on sarge or on sarge with backports? |
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| 13:17.10 | Ryushin | noshadow: Man, what kind of network do you have that has DVI? :) |
| 13:17.14 | sep | noshadow, i'v never heard of a 2D network card with DVI |
| 13:17.19 | blondie | haha |
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| 13:17.26 | noshadow | damnit, s/network/graphic/ my head is already spinning... |
| 13:17.34 | nukeu666 | Ryushin ya i did...still saysError: Can't open display: ee.iitkgp.ernet.in:10.0 |
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| 13:17.55 | Ryushin | nukeu666: What happens you run xeyes? |
| 13:18.18 | Ryushin | noshadow: Do you want to run opensource or closed source drivers? |
| 13:18.22 | nukeu666 | ryushin same error |
| 13:18.28 | liable | azeem: i am *not* here to abuse people and i would have thought you might have realised it, but the occasional larting or whatever keeps it fun. when someone gets nasty about me abusing them, then sure, give me a warning. |
| 13:18.43 | toshiro | hi, i've got a problem with ftpd, i can not find the mask, by the way , there's no ftpd irc |
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| 13:18.51 | noshadow | Ryushin: I much prefer open source ones, the propriatery always crash or had funny bugs, from whatever vendor I tried... |
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| 13:19.04 | toshiro | i've installed ftpd with apt-get |
| 13:19.18 | liable | azeem: /msg me if you would like, i am certainly open to discussion about #debians policies |
| 13:19.19 | blondie | what mask? |
| 13:19.21 | Ryushin | noshadow: Do you plan on running MythTV? |
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| 13:19.52 | toshiro | blondie, when i create files on the debian with dreamwever, the files are rwxr---- |
| 13:19.57 | blondie | oh |
| 13:20.03 | toshiro | blondie, i need rwxr--r-- |
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| 13:20.18 | blondie | toshiro: why would you want html files to be executable? |
| 13:20.20 | Timtow | I tried to upgrade to PHP5 and switch PHP4 to fast cgi, following this: http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4, but now MySQL won't start, here is my syslog: http://pastebin.com/746688 |
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| 13:20.32 | Timtow | How do I fix it? |
| 13:20.38 | toshiro | blondie, i just need the read for others |
| 13:20.43 | noshadow | no, just plain office (mutt, latex, openoffice) things on a TFT. no 3D, no TV, no video, nothing |
| 13:20.55 | blondie | noshadow: no video? :P |
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| 13:21.00 | cplx | Can someone please assist.. how do I check/change the root mysql pass? |
| 13:21.05 | toshiro | blondie, but i dont know where to config |
| 13:21.09 | noshadow | blondie: in the sense of DVD or TV-in |
| 13:21.11 | blondie | noshadow: I should think just about any common card would work thusly |
| 13:21.15 | abrotman | cplx: ask #mysql |
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| 13:21.47 | blondie | abrotman: you irc too much :o |
| 13:22.02 | aquatix | so, anybody knows what's wrong when a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't show the config tool? :) |
| 13:22.04 | noshadow | blondie: matrox g550 does only work with propietary drivers having long delays, some geforce someone else ordered seem to only work with propietary always crashing drivers... |
| 13:22.04 | Ryushin | noshadow: Then you will probably want to find a ATI 9200 card with a DVI on board. You can run the Radeon driver in stock x.org and you'll be able to do 2D and 3D. |
| 13:22.09 | abrotman | blondie: i'm not actually convinced you even have a job :) |
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| 13:22.45 | noshadow | Ryushin: so I'll need backports for sarge, but otherwise it should work on sarge? |
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| 13:22.56 | blondie | abrotman: I'm at work now! |
| 13:23.05 | toshiro | blondie, where can i find info? |
| 13:23.06 | kombi | whats the nicest/easiest way to mail a compressed log file? gzip file | mail foo@bar something? |
| 13:23.07 | Ryushin | Actually, it should work with XFree86 just fine as well. |
| 13:23.11 | blondie | toshiro: I don't know |
| 13:23.15 | abrotman | i thought G550 worked with the regular drivers .. but anything newer would now |
| 13:23.16 | toshiro | blondie, ;o) |
| 13:23.18 | abrotman | would not |
| 13:23.40 | nukeu666 | when i run xeyes...isnt putty supposed to catch the X data and send it to my comp? |
| 13:23.50 | petemc | kombi: mutt is good for stuff like that |
| 13:23.52 | toshiro | anyone know how to configure ftpd?, i need to control the mask when users creates files |
| 13:24.01 | noshadow | abrotman: depends on which g550 you have, the most common is that with two outputs, one soldered to a dsub, one to a dvi. The dvi output of those does not work with the free drivers, and the propietary are buggy like hell |
| 13:24.02 | Ryushin | nukeu666: Oh wait a minute, do you have a X server running on your local computer? |
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| 13:24.14 | nukeu666 | Ryushin: ya..i have xming running |
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| 13:24.25 | Ryushin | nukeu666: On windows? |
| 13:24.31 | nukeu666 | Ryushin:ya |
| 13:24.33 | jelly-ho | noshadow: ati 9200 and 9550 here just work (for 2d). |
| 13:24.35 | jes-o-mat | is there a debian-installer with 2.6.16? |
| 13:24.44 | Ryushin | nukeu666: Install the cygwin X server. |
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| 13:24.57 | POVaddct | do broadcom and marvell release programming specs for their wlan chipsets? |
| 13:25.00 | blondie | my ati 9800 just works (for 2d anyway) |
| 13:25.10 | nukeu666 | Ryushin:xming is a non-cygwin alternative right? |
| 13:25.10 | blondie | erm that's in etch anyway |
| 13:25.28 | noshadow | Ryushin: 9250 also working, or is that different? |
| 13:25.29 | datrus | hello. How that under debian, when i do 'su Debian-exim' as root and then 'id' the uid still yields 0 ?? |
| 13:25.47 | formorer | datrus: you need a valid shell.... |
| 13:25.54 | Ryushin | noshadow: 9250 will be fine. |
| 13:25.58 | noshadow | datrus: if you do exit after that are you locked out, or root again? |
| 13:26.04 | cklaus | jes-o-mat, not that i knew of.. |
| 13:26.17 | datrus | noshadow: root again |
| 13:26.26 | formorer | datrus: you need a valid shell.... |
| 13:26.48 | datrus | formorer: ah yes you're right, thanks |
| 13:26.52 | noshadow | Ryushin: hm, that means I'll need AGP mainboards then. I hate buying hardware.... |
| 13:27.24 | Ryushin | noshadow: You don't have a AGP slot? |
| 13:27.30 | datrus | formorer: how come it doesn't give some sort of error message? |
| 13:27.38 | formorer | datrus: ask the su maintainer |
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| 13:27.40 | Ryushin | noshadow: PCI-X, or PCI only? |
| 13:27.49 | noshadow | Ryushin: most motherboards for sale only have that PCIe slot. |
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| 13:28.18 | noshadow | Especially if one wants a cheap 32 bit processor with enough cache. |
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| 13:28.46 | Ryushin | noshadow: Well, a sempron 64 proc is cheap (and fast), and the 754 motherboards are cheap with a agp slot. |
| 13:28.56 | hazard_ | AGP is going out. |
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| 13:30.52 | noshadow | does the dvi output with those ATI 9250 cards also work with the free drivers if it has both a dvi and a dsub output, or does it have issues like those matrox cards? |
| 13:31.43 | Ryushin | noshadow: From what I understand, it works fine. |
| 13:31.47 | blondie | my 9800 has no such issues |
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| 13:31.49 | Timtow | could I have erased my symbolic link pointing to mysql sock file? |
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| 13:32.16 | Timtow | May 30 08:17:20 master /etc/init.d/mysql[25965]: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2$ May 30 08:17:20 master /etc/init.d/mysql[25965]: Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
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| 13:33.01 | cplx | Can someone please assist.. im trying to configure ISPCONFIG and I get the follwing: |
| 13:33.01 | cplx | Please enter the host name (e.g. www):C1-AU-AP1 |
| 13:33.01 | cplx | Please enter the domain (e.g. xyz.de):C1-AU-AP1.cyber1.com.au |
| 13:33.01 | cplx | The URL is not reachable! |
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| 13:33.06 | cplx | sorry. |
| 13:33.26 | cplx | I dont see how why its doing that.. I have pinged both, not letting it go through.. |
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| 13:33.52 | Timtow | maybe it's the dashes? |
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| 13:34.03 | cplx | hrmm |
| 13:34.15 | Maulkin | Timtow: Are there any errors before that? |
| 13:34.15 | Timtow | I know I had a LOT of problems with ISPConfig and chose to just setup my own virtual hosts.... |
| 13:34.21 | abrotman | blondie: are you hooking |
| 13:34.27 | Maulkin | Timtow: And what command are you running? |
| 13:34.32 | cplx | yeah |
| 13:34.37 | blondie | abrotman: huh? |
| 13:34.43 | Timtow | let me look Maulkin, but the mysqld.sock is not in that directory...I forgot where I put it |
| 13:34.45 | Timtow | lol |
| 13:34.51 | cplx | Timtow: Hostname: knocking back the DNS.. what should I try? |
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| 13:35.19 | Timtow | you're asking the wrong person about that one, cplx, I know squat, was just making an observation, cause what you wrote looks right, lol |
| 13:35.32 | cplx | yeah.. I can ping both |
| 13:35.38 | cplx | not letting me pass :\ |
| 13:36.13 | abrotman | blondie: your job |
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| 13:36.49 | Maulkin | Timtow: That won't exist if mysqld isn't running... |
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| 13:37.12 | Timtow | the sock file won't? |
| 13:37.41 | Timtow | well, there are no other errors before that, only thing else in syslog is connections to the db and they executed fine |
| 13:37.48 | Maulkin | Timtow: Correct. |
| 13:38.00 | Maulkin | Timtow: Can you do "ps -A|grep -c mysqld" please? |
| 13:38.08 | MatBoy | MTRR ? Under Debian... performance ? Who has experience with it ? |
| 13:38.22 | cplx | Timtow: its all installed now.. what happens from here? any idea? |
| 13:38.22 | Timtow | returned: 0 |
| 13:38.35 | Timtow | you got that error fixed? |
| 13:38.54 | cplx | Yep.. worked now |
| 13:39.01 | wdamn | Hi, anyone know if debian will continue to support powerpc architecture, even if apple gave up to use it? |
| 13:39.16 | azeem | wdamn: there's no plans otherwise for now |
| 13:39.37 | Timtow | login to your ISP config -> https://your.domain.com/ using admin:admin and change your pass, then setup your resellers, clients, and sites :D |
| 13:39.49 | Timtow | check the ISPConfig Manual, very well documented |
| 13:40.08 | cplx | well im trying to access it locally |
| 13:40.14 | cplx | internally.. |
| 13:40.24 | wdamn | azeem: ok, cause I'm going to buy an iBook pcc and I don'want to make a mistake |
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| 13:40.26 | cplx | ie. https://10.232.58.20 |
| 13:40.27 | cplx | yea? |
| 13:40.29 | Timtow | then use https://127.0.0.1 if you're using SSL, if not use http://127.0.0.1 |
| 13:40.35 | Timtow | yeah, sure |
| 13:40.47 | cplx | hrm.. nothing coming up.. only http:// working |
| 13:40.55 | cplx | directory listing.. |
| 13:40.55 | azeem | wdamn: Debian still supports m68k for now... |
| 13:40.56 | Timtow | then you didn't set it up to use SSL |
| 13:41.08 | Timtow | oh, did you choose ssl? |
| 13:41.14 | cplx | yeah.. dont think I did.. its just listing folders in ~/www |
| 13:41.23 | Timtow | you gott have the port open, I think it's 443, off the top of my head |
| 13:41.25 | Maulkin | Timtow: ok, mysql isn't running. |
| 13:41.33 | Timtow | I know, it won't start |
| 13:41.57 | Maulkin | Timtow: What exactly is the command you're trying? "/etc/init.d/mysql start"? |
| 13:42.02 | cplx | Timtow: yeah tried.. http://serverip:443 |
| 13:42.04 | cplx | hm |
| 13:42.11 | Timtow | yes,Maulkin |
| 13:42.14 | H2OyJaBoN | hello |
| 13:42.15 | Timtow | and I get this back |
| 13:42.17 | Timtow | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. |
| 13:42.20 | Timtow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.21 | Timtow | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 13:42.23 | Timtow | error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' |
| 13:42.25 | Timtow | Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
| 13:42.36 | Maulkin | !tell Timtow about paste |
| 13:42.49 | Timtow | sorry... |
| 13:43.01 | Maulkin | You may get kicked automatically if you don't |
| 13:43.03 | cplx | Timtow: http://serverip:443 no success.. hmm |
| 13:43.11 | Maulkin | Timtow: Ok... what's in syslog? |
| 13:43.19 | Timtow | is ISPConfig running? |
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| 13:43.39 | Timtow | http://pastebin.com/746688 |
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| 13:44.22 | Maulkin | Timtow: line 3 of that is your error |
| 13:44.38 | Maulkin | Timtow: And you can fix that in /etc/mysql/my.cnf (I think) |
| 13:44.55 | cplx | Timtow: now it is.. yes, doesnt look like there is anything related to ISPCONFIg in this dir.. I did a locate and found it in /home/admispconfig etc.. |
| 13:45.03 | blondie | abrotman: are you suggesting I'm a hooker? |
| 13:45.23 | hazard2 | Anybody know if there's a way to make a RSA host key not change (from a bootable CD) |
| 13:45.23 | Maulkin | H2OyJaBoN: Hi. If you have a question, please just ask |
| 13:45.27 | cplx | Timtow: change the doc root? or virtual dir? |
| 13:45.37 | stoned | blondie, oooh |
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| 13:45.55 | abrotman | blondie: i'm pretty sure of it! |
| 13:46.13 | Timtow | cplx, I have no idea, like I said, I don't know much, only been doing *nix for a total of 3.5 weeks now |
| 13:46.19 | blondie | abrotman: rude |
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| 13:47.01 | Timtow | now I've got another one: unknown variable 'expire-logs-days=20' |
| 13:47.10 | Timtow | what the hell did I change to cause this? |
| 13:47.25 | blondie | abrotman: or are you asking as a customer? |
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| 13:47.51 | hazard2 | what's the command to list the interface statuses (IDE etc) |
| 13:47.52 | gabrieltomate | anybody can test wengo ? |
| 13:48.00 | hazard2 | its hd-something but I can't remember what |
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| 13:48.22 | Barrett | hdparm? |
| 13:48.28 | hazard2 | that would be it, thanks |
| 13:48.29 | abrotman | gabrieltomate: test what? |
| 13:48.37 | Barrett | i gotta raid question |
| 13:48.44 | Maulkin | Timtow: at a guess, you updated mysql and used the old config file |
| 13:48.45 | abrotman | blondie: ok .. back to work with you! |
| 13:48.57 | H2OyJaBoN | how to use more than one ip in /etc/network/interface? |
| 13:49.08 | H2OyJaBoN | eth0, eth0:0 ...etc |
| 13:49.09 | gabrieltomate | abrotman: wengophone |
| 13:49.09 | abrotman | !tell H2OyJaBoN about interfaces |
| 13:49.16 | abrotman | gabrieltomate: is it in debian ? |
| 13:49.17 | Barrett | i've got slack installed on my primary linux part, and i'm trying out debian on a smaller one ~500mb |
| 13:49.36 | Timtow | Maulkin: I installed php5 and the mysql libraries, would that do it? |
| 13:49.50 | hazard2 | Barret: And...? |
| 13:49.55 | Maulkin | Timtow: Shoudn't do |
| 13:49.58 | blondie | abrotman: yes sir ;) |
| 13:50.00 | Barrett | my drive is divided up funny, and am queesy about resizing it some more |
| 13:50.14 | abrotman | cheesy? |
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| 13:50.20 | Barrett | that too |
| 13:50.27 | H2OyJaBoN | sorry i did down |
| 13:50.33 | MatBoy | Do I have to install something for mtrr when it's enabled in the kernel ? |
| 13:50.35 | Timtow | I didn't upgrade MySQL, just PHP5 and moved PHP4 to FastCGI |
| 13:50.38 | Barrett | anywho, i have a large storage partition, that's formatted as fat32 |
| 13:50.42 | Barrett | so winders can use it |
| 13:50.51 | blondie | tard |
| 13:51.04 | gabrieltomate | abrotman: yes.. |
| 13:51.05 | hazard2 | fat32 != good choice for large storage partition |
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| 13:51.14 | gabrieltomate | abrotman: GNU GPL |
| 13:51.20 | MatBoy | hazard2, ext3 is better :) |
| 13:51.20 | Barrett | hazard2: what is, for windows and linux use? |
| 13:51.39 | Maulkin | Timtow: Something to do with mysql has changed, or it'll still be working |
| 13:51.51 | hazard2 | pretty much, fat32, unless you can get linux read/writing to NTFS |
| 13:51.56 | Timtow | ah, it's a bug with apt-get upgrade |
| 13:51.57 | hazard2 | or find a plugin for something like ext3 |
| 13:52.12 | Timtow | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=352809 |
| 13:52.18 | Barrett | i can, but that is done in a funny way |
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| 13:53.00 | abrotman | !find wengo |
| 13:53.09 | abrotman | gabrieltomate: is it PACKAGED for debian ? |
| 13:53.16 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'wengo' (1): (/usr/bin/wengophone, /usr/share/menu/wengophone, /usr/share/applications/wengophone.desktop) in net/wengophone. |
| 13:53.21 | abrotman | yay! |
| 13:53.23 | Timtow | how do I tell what version of mysql I'm running? |
| 13:53.25 | Barrett | hazard2: in windows i'll create a large file filled with junk, boot back into linux and format that file as reiserfs or whatever |
| 13:53.35 | abrotman | gabrieltomate: so you want someone to talk to ? |
| 13:53.36 | Barrett | then through a loop device, i'll mount it somewhere |
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| 13:53.38 | Maulkin | Timtow: mysql -V |
| 13:53.51 | hazard2 | Barrett: sounds...complicated.... |
| 13:54.06 | hazard2 | the thing that annoys me most about fat32 is the 2GB file size limit. |
| 13:54.15 | Barrett | well, the ntfs write option in my kernel doesn't support changing the size of a file or create one |
| 13:54.26 | Barrett | hazard2: indeed |
| 13:54.28 | hazard2 | it seems tlike such a pointless limitation that you'd never run into....until you have a 2gb file.... |
| 13:54.34 | Timtow | thanks |
| 13:54.53 | Timtow | arg, that won't work, can't connect to mysql socket |
| 13:55.08 | Maulkin | Timtow: Upper case "V" |
| 13:55.10 | gabrieltomate | abrotman: yes.. you want? just for teste... |
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| 13:55.30 | Barrett | hazard2: well, if i want to store linux related stuff on my fat32 partition i do the same thing i do with the ntfs partition |
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| 13:56.13 | abrotman | gabrieltomate: not a snowball's chance in hell |
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| 13:56.33 | Barrett | if i need it bigger than 2gb, i make several 2gb files, use losetup to make loop0 loop1 loop2, etc block devices out of them, stich 'em together with mdadm as /dev/md0 or whatever, format and mount |
| 13:56.52 | lestat | someone has been able to make mozilla-mplayer work? |
| 13:56.55 | Barrett | this is what i want to do for my debian partition |
| 13:56.59 | Barrett | it only has 500mb |
| 13:57.03 | hazard2 | Barrett: I seem to recall finding a plugin for windows that gave it ext3 support, I can't remember if I got it working or not (though I do remember not trying very hard) |
| 13:57.30 | Barrett | i want the /usr mount point to go to that /dev/md0 device, composed out of multiple loop block devices |
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| 13:57.34 | Barrett | but thats tricky |
| 13:57.43 | Barrett | cause i'm not familiar with debian |
| 13:57.45 | hazard2 | Barrett: that's way over my head (making block devices out of files etc) |
| 13:57.46 | wrmachine | werd |
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| 13:58.00 | abrotman | !explore2fs |
| 13:58.00 | dpkg | well, explore2fs is a win32 utility that lets you read and write(at your own risk!) ext2 file systems under win9x/nt/2000. URL: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ [Ask me about ext2ifs] |
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| 13:59.01 | Barrett | well, i'll keep plugging away at it |
| 13:59.10 | Barrett | or just say "fuck it" and trash my slack install |
| 13:59.15 | hazard2 | Goodluck. |
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| 13:59.24 | Maulkin | Barrett: That sounds like a better option to me :) |
| 13:59.55 | Barrett | hrm.. i might be able to resize the storage partition a little |
| 14:00.01 | hazard2 | ah yes, the good old 'starkiller' solution to computer problems |
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| 14:00.39 | Barrett | blunt force trauma to the harddisk? |
| 14:00.59 | abrotman | !tell omkar about root |
| 14:01.10 | hazard2 | no, that's the OTHER starkiller solution to computer problems. |
| 14:01.12 | blondie | la la |
| 14:01.20 | Barrett | i'm tempted to do that with my gee dee effin always-flaking-out dvd burner |
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| 14:01.46 | Maulkin | abrotman: You need to ask the blootbot maintainer nicely to look at it. |
| 14:01.53 | blondie | abrotman: it's ok, this other bot called "abrotman" does it |
| 14:02.08 | lilalinux | so, test |
| 14:02.15 | abrotman | Maulkin: dpkg used to do it .. then it stopped one day |
| 14:02.21 | abrotman | actually .. apt did it at one time also |
| 14:03.02 | abrotman | Maulkin: might have been something custom that don did |
| 14:03.08 | hazard2 | Barrett: heh, I've got several optical drives that love to randomly stop working, the ones that did it most freqently eventually found themselves converted into harddrive mounts. |
| 14:03.12 | Maulkin | abrotman: Not IIRC |
| 14:03.54 | Maulkin | abrotman: ahh, yeah: src/Modules/RootWarn.pl |
| 14:04.16 | abrotman | Maulkin: yay! |
| 14:05.07 | Timtow | how do you get a list of installed packages? |
| 14:05.16 | E0x | dpkg -l |
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| 14:05.41 | fericitu_ | how can b v |
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| 14:06.12 | abrotman | Maulkin: make it so! .. |
| 14:06.39 | tarzeau | does someone use graveman and can burn dvd with it? |
| 14:06.41 | Maulkin | abrotman: Though, it may need "@myModulesLoadNow = ('topic', 'uptime', 'news', 'rootWarn', 'symdump');" |
| 14:06.57 | Timtow | what is a 'broken package'? |
| 14:07.12 | tarzeau | Timtow: one that you can't install |
| 14:07.17 | tarzeau | Timtow: or that doesn't work as it should |
| 14:07.26 | pakal | Hi, I get an Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset video card |
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| 14:07.31 | Timtow | well, why can't I install mysql-4.1? |
| 14:07.37 | tarzeau | Timtow: maybe it's broken? |
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| 14:07.49 | pakal | need I an special driver like Nvidia or just configure Xorg ? |
| 14:08.01 | tarzeau | pakal: i'd use the driver from www.nvidia.com |
| 14:08.09 | astronut | eh? no |
| 14:08.12 | astronut | use the debian packaging |
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| 14:08.14 | Maulkin | abrotman: I don't run dpkg, so can't tell what it's doing. |
| 14:08.16 | tarzeau | dpkg tell Timtow about BTS |
| 14:08.21 | pakal | for an Intel card? |
| 14:08.29 | astronut | is it an nvidia chipset? |
| 14:08.34 | astronut | err, nvidia based card |
| 14:08.34 | tarzeau | astronut: with their own kernel? |
| 14:08.46 | Timtow | yeah, it's says it's resolved in 4.1 but now I can't even install 4.1 |
| 14:08.46 | astronut | oh, not a dpkg'd kernel? |
| 14:09.01 | astronut | was it installed using make && make.... && make install |
| 14:09.08 | astronut | or did you use make-kpkg? |
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| 14:09.31 | astronut | oh, that's not an nvidia card anyway |
| 14:09.34 | astronut | sorry, i didn't read up |
| 14:09.42 | astronut | yes, just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 14:09.59 | astronut | no need for nvidia |
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| 14:10.35 | tarzeau | !debian font |
| 14:10.35 | dpkg | it has been said that debian font is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-font/ |
| 14:10.38 | tarzeau | panthera: for you |
| 14:11.17 | panthera | you're distributing that kinda officially? |
| 14:11.28 | tarzeau | panthera: no i'm not |
| 14:11.28 | orjan | To get my keyboard to work correct I changed in a keycode value in /etc/X11/xkb/keykodes/xfree86 ( powerpc swedish). I guess it's not the correct place, if ot what file should it be? |
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| 14:12.16 | abrotman | Maulkin: probably parsing text ... |
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| 14:12.56 | grisuno | hildi, who known the repository or web for download evolution for testing/unestable |
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| 14:13.26 | grisuno | debian |
| 14:13.32 | panthera | grisuno: ftp.debian.org? |
| 14:13.34 | Xoritor | does anyone have a good ldap auth for debian (as client) that is fairly recent (as i search google etc...) |
| 14:13.39 | stew | grisuno: are you running testing or are you running stable? |
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| 14:14.11 | grisuno | runin knoppix std |
| 14:14.17 | grisuno | testing/unestable |
| 14:14.36 | stew | grisuno: ask #knoppix then, sorry we can't support knoppix here |
| 14:14.48 | grisuno | but knoppix is debian |
| 14:14.59 | stew | grisuno: sorry, its not, its knoppix |
| 14:15.04 | grisuno | ok |
| 14:15.09 | pipeline | grisuno: If it's not on debian.org, it's not debian. |
| 14:15.09 | grisuno | thanks |
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| 14:16.50 | jjazz | grisuno: Try #knoppix |
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| 14:17.33 | yang | is for woody->sarge upgrade required to use aptitude? |
| 14:18.03 | jjazz | yang: change /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:18.25 | yang | ok, you think that is enough, becouse dpkg tells me to install aptitude |
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| 14:18.43 | Eclipser | !tell grisuno -about based on debian |
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| 14:19.07 | grisuno | what |
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| 14:19.24 | Eclipser | dpkg sent you a message :) |
| 14:19.52 | grisuno | oka |
| 14:19.54 | jjazz | yang: I've never had aptitude, and I did the woody->sarge upgrade just fine. |
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| 14:20.03 | yang | jjazz: ok |
| 14:20.06 | stew | yang: yes, use aptitude, not apt-get |
| 14:20.07 | grisuno | is not necesary |
| 14:20.09 | datos2006 | #mundolinux Hi |
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| 14:20.33 | stew | yang: it is necessary to use aptitude, not apt-get if you want the upgrade to go a smoothly as possible |
| 14:20.39 | yang | stew: i am not used to aptitude, once it removed all my packages |
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| 14:20.56 | stew | yang: it won't do such a thing without telling you it is going to first |
| 14:21.11 | Eclipser | I wish aptitude was able to "install package*" |
| 14:21.27 | paulswm|dual | yang: That's because of it's relationship with "Recommends" I think |
| 14:21.30 | RvGaTe | !seen ic3man05 |
| 14:21.31 | dpkg | ic3man05 is currently on #debian (8h 32m 17s). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 6h 38m 37s |
| 14:21.39 | paulswm|dual | s/it's/its/ |
| 14:21.40 | RvGaTe | pff, get your ass in here ic3man05 |
| 14:22.02 | yang | stew: i also have a problem, since i run 2.4. kernel and glibc wont update on sarge...see http://pastebin.com/746761 |
| 14:22.03 | stew | Eclipser: submit a patch! |
| 14:22.07 | Timtow | aha! I removed every instance of php4, php5 and mysql, now it's reinstalling just fine |
| 14:22.12 | Eclipser | I'm too busy with xmms2 :p |
| 14:22.15 | grukti | how to i switch gnome desktop to icewm ? (icewm is already installet i want icewm to be default) |
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| 14:22.44 | stew | yang: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:22.57 | thingfish | grukti: if you're using gdm, just log out and pick icewm from the sessions menu. |
| 14:23.03 | Timtow | ooo, and it's mysql-5.0 |
| 14:23.13 | Timtow | 5.0, does that mean it goes faster? |
| 14:23.17 | yang | 2.4.16 |
| 14:23.43 | Timtow | ...with lots of aftermarket upgrades, no less... |
| 14:23.45 | Timtow | :D |
| 14:24.30 | daqqal | Count of blocks on the device: 306395680 |
| 14:24.31 | grukti | thingfish not using gdm... i want start icewm when type startx command |
| 14:24.41 | daqqal | is that too many blocks |
| 14:24.48 | simonrvn | so stick that in your .xsession |
| 14:24.59 | thingfish | hi simonrvn |
| 14:24.59 | stew | yang: then yes, you should first upgrade your kernel before dist-upgrading |
| 14:25.15 | yang | stew: on my bad luck there is no "aptitude" for mips |
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| 14:25.47 | bony | hi is there a channel for picasa? |
| 14:26.03 | bony | or is there are software which is similar to ACDsee |
| 14:26.07 | bony | in debian |
| 14:26.10 | grukti | how to i make it default? |
| 14:26.41 | onetinsoldier | grukti: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 14:26.43 | simonrvn | hello thingfish |
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| 14:26.53 | panthera | bony: gqview? |
| 14:26.57 | Maulkin | bony: have a look at gqview |
| 14:26.58 | grukti | ok |
| 14:27.03 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 14:27.14 | panthera | Maulkin: too slow :P |
| 14:27.20 | Maulkin | panthera: :) |
| 14:27.22 | stew | yang: read the sarge release notes for mips and see what they recommend |
| 14:27.41 | stew | yang: the release notes for other arches are what recommend using aptitude |
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| 14:27.51 | bony | thanks guy's i will try that. the problem is i have to give print out of a group of photos in a single A4 paper with there file name's under the photos. that is my requirement |
| 14:28.26 | grukti | onetinsoldier command not found.... |
| 14:28.29 | grukti | hmm |
| 14:28.50 | simonrvn | /usr/sbin |
| 14:29.07 | onetinsoldier | grukti: try.... man update-alternatives |
| 14:29.33 | onetinsoldier | grukti: you should at least have the 'update-alternatives' command installed |
| 14:30.08 | grukti | hups ... was not running those commands as root |
| 14:30.25 | onetinsoldier | ahh, ok |
| 14:30.26 | simonrvn | i'm pretty sure s/he does, just not running it as root/sudo/su |
| 14:30.31 | simonrvn | bingo |
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| 14:31.41 | grukti | still not working... |
| 14:31.45 | onetinsoldier | no? |
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| 14:32.00 | onetinsoldier | what happened? |
| 14:32.26 | yang | stew: since i cant download aptitude i must upgrade using apt-get |
| 14:32.27 | simonrvn | ok, so why haven't you added 'exec icewm' to your ~/.xsession yet? :) |
| 14:32.36 | grukti | typo at command.. |
| 14:32.45 | stew | yang: no, upgrade your kernel, install aptitude from sarge, then dist-upgrade |
| 14:32.51 | onetinsoldier | were you not able to set icewm as the default window manager? try what simonrvn says |
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| 14:33.01 | onetinsoldier | if update-alternatives doesn't work |
| 14:33.09 | grukti | now it works... |
| 14:33.14 | onetinsoldier | ok... cool |
| 14:33.15 | simonrvn | it should anyway |
| 14:33.36 | MatBoy | During the install of a new kernel became the /boot partition in Read-Only mode. Do I really have to boot with something like knoppix now ? |
| 14:33.41 | grukti | now testing... |
| 14:33.57 | grukti | noooooooo |
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| 14:34.26 | andax | how do I schedule a reiserfs check for / on the next reboot? |
| 14:34.30 | onetinsoldier | you may need to be roo at the console and do... /etc/init.d/gdm restart before it'll take effect.. not certain |
| 14:34.38 | onetinsoldier | s/roo/root |
| 14:34.54 | azeem | andax: try to touch /forcefsck or something, I am not sure reiserfsck honors that though |
| 14:34.55 | simonrvn | touch /dir/the/partition/lives/on/forcefsck |
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| 14:35.15 | andax | thanks |
| 14:35.42 | yang | stew: 2.4.19 is the latest kernel-image from woody |
| 14:35.57 | simonrvn | like azeem said, it mightn't respect it though. be forewarned |
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| 14:36.58 | grukti | i dont have gdm installet... |
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| 14:37.06 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 14:37.11 | stew | yang: install 2.4.27 from sarge |
| 14:37.32 | onetinsoldier | is it working then? is icewm your default x-window-manager now? |
| 14:37.33 | Ronin | grukti: then install it |
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| 14:38.56 | Zvpun | what is the meaning of rc, pn in dpkg -l listing? Where are the characters explaind? |
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| 14:39.17 | liable | stew: congats! oh #debian overlord :) |
| 14:39.40 | grukti | onetinsoldier i changet icewm to be default with update alternatives command but its not default x-windowm manage if i use startx command.. |
| 14:39.42 | onetinsoldier | Zvpun: it means the package has been 'removed' but the 'configuration' file still remain |
| 14:39.49 | onetinsoldier | *files |
| 14:39.49 | Tropican8 | Does anyone know if there has been any changes in fonts/kde font handling in Testing lately? Ever since I did an apt-get upgrade the antialiasing on my KDE install seems to have increased significantly (upon logout/reboot). |
| 14:40.40 | Zvpun | onetinsoldier: and what is the difference between pn and un? |
| 14:40.54 | onetinsoldier | grukti: do ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager ...and tel me what you get |
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| 14:41.47 | neurocyte | Tropican8, there was an upgrade to libfreetype6 recently that changed things a little |
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| 14:42.20 | onetinsoldier | Zvpun: un means it's nver been installed. pn means you had it install at one time but then you 'purged it. it uyou see an 'rc' for package, then do... dpkg --purge <package_name> ...the list it again and you'll see 'pn' |
| 14:42.21 | WorldBFree | how do i install mplayer? |
| 14:42.56 | Tropican8 | neurocyte: Is this a bug I should file a report for or merely an improved font? |
| 14:43.03 | Zvpun | onetinsoldier: so pn is as much uninstall as I can get? |
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| 14:43.14 | onetinsoldier | Zvpun: yes |
| 14:43.29 | peppet | !tell WorldBFree about marillat |
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| 14:43.36 | Zvpun | can I see the configuration files dpkg is going to purge? |
| 14:43.41 | neurocyte | Tropican8, it was a bug that was fixed |
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| 14:43.49 | simonrvn | Zvpun: dpkg -l | head -n 6 |
| 14:43.56 | Tropican8 | WorldBFree: You must add this line to sources.list (without quotes) "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main" |
| 14:44.18 | stew | liable: :) |
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| 14:44.41 | PupenoK | Hello. |
| 14:44.42 | rohan | why is the kde update in sid to 3.5.3 trying to remove kdelibs-bin |
| 14:44.49 | PupenoK | My public OpenSSH key is "...NA= pupeno@movlab" and I wan to change that "movlab", is it safe to just open the file and change or do I have to do something else/different ? |
| 14:44.52 | rohan | is that a known change ? |
| 14:44.57 | simonrvn | rohan: because. read the changelog |
| 14:45.00 | tarzeau | can i make aliases also work in scripts? |
| 14:45.01 | Zvpun | simonrvn: the syntax is hard to understand if you dont know what it stands for. That is why I asked I didnt understand it. |
| 14:45.05 | tarzeau | i've got zsh |
| 14:45.07 | simonrvn | @btssmite rohan |
| 14:45.26 | rohan | wow, excellent. thank you :P |
| 14:45.28 | onetinsoldier | Zvpun: hmmm, not sure about that. i don't think so normally. there is probably some way since the info is stored somewhere though |
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| 14:45.57 | simonrvn | Zvpun: i was telling you that so you'd know exactly what that pn, hi, ii, etc. stuff means |
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| 14:46.06 | grukti | onetinsoldier lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2006-05-30 15:32 /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/icewm |
| 14:46.41 | kombi | in bash, how do you execute a command and us it's output as parameter? (i mean command substitution, not pipe) |
| 14:46.47 | kombi | *use |
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| 14:47.13 | Zvpun | kombi: maybe echo $(date) |
| 14:47.26 | peppet | kombi: or put command between ` |
| 14:47.49 | onetinsoldier | grukti: ok. so it is set as your default wm when using debian type utils. are you using a file in your $HOME dir named... .xsession ?? |
| 14:48.28 | Tropican8 | neurocyte: the fix doesn't appear to be in testing yet. Or is this the fixed version with the seemly higher antialiasing setting? |
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| 14:48.39 | kombi | peppet: I tried `= and $() but both throw an error: mutt `gzip file` foo@bar |
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| 14:49.43 | grukti | nope... only .xsessions-errors but no .xsession |
| 14:49.44 | Zvpun | I've got a /usr/bin/qtconfig, /etc/alternatives/qtconfig, and so one but dpkg -S /usr/bin/qtconfig doesnt find the package owning it. How can I find out which package left the links behind (to report a bug)? |
| 14:49.49 | kombi | all I want to do i gzip a file and send it by mail.. |
| 14:49.57 | stew | kombi: "gzip file" doesn't send anything to stdout, you probably want `gzip -c file` |
| 14:49.59 | paulsen | There wasnt much people in #rsync, so I hope its ok that I ask here.. I'm trying to rsync a ton of images from a redhat9 server to a freshly installed debian server. In the middle of the rsync it stops at the same jpeg file every time.. any ideas how im going to troubleshoot this? |
| 14:50.06 | liable | !tar |
| 14:50.06 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 14:50.13 | kombi | stew: thanks, I'll try that.. |
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| 14:50.32 | stew | kombi: oh wait |
| 14:50.55 | onetinsoldier | grukti: ok. well use an editor and make the .session file. in it put the following lines... |
| 14:50.58 | stew | kombi: i misread what you are trying to do, you don't want what i said. it seems like you want "gzip file && mutt file.gz foo@bar" |
| 14:51.09 | onetinsoldier | #!/bin/sh |
| 14:51.16 | onetinsoldier | exec icewm |
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| 14:51.27 | borco | hi |
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| 14:51.33 | kombi | stew: oh... |
| 14:51.51 | cr3 | what is the meaning of what looks like an email address in the id_rsa.pub file? |
| 14:52.00 | Timtow | how do you remove packages with a wildcard? |
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| 14:52.14 | liable | cr3: explain more |
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| 14:53.01 | cr3 | liable: each lines in my pub file starts with ssh-rsa and ends with username@hostname, I'm not quite sure I understand the implications of the username@hostname part. for example, can I change it to anything? |
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| 14:53.28 | kombi | stew: ;) |
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| 14:53.39 | borco | i've try to make a new kernel 2.6.16.11 kernel for sarge with make-kpg. the kernel is modular. i used an existing .config from unstable as starting point. unfortunately, when I try to reboot, the kernel panics because it can't find the root. i have try to tell the mkinitrd to load the ide-disk, but this didn't help. any ideas what's wrong? |
| 14:53.41 | yang | Stew: i got a bunch of errors, when trying to upgrade on 2.4.27, can someone tell me if its wise to update - http://pastebin.com/746857 |
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| 14:53.49 | borco | do I have to compile the ide into the kernel? |
| 14:54.19 | kombi | where would I be without this channel.. (i sometimes aks myself..) |
| 14:54.31 | borco | do I need to upgrade some packages to run 2.6.16.11 on sarge? |
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| 14:54.38 | simonrvn | borco: would be helpful if you have our boot disk on ide ... |
| 14:54.45 | simonrvn | @tell root -about root |
| 14:55.02 | simonrvn | borco: your* |
| 14:55.25 | borco | simonrvn, ? |
| 14:55.34 | borco | simonrvn, the boot disk is an ide disk. |
| 14:55.39 | simonrvn | typo correction |
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| 14:56.09 | borco | simonrvn, the problem is that the kernel doesn't load the ide-disk and doesn't find the /dev/hda7 and panics. |
| 14:56.16 | jimmiehansson | Hi all, a general question regarding dependancies, I was doing a qmailrocks.org install on my server while it turned out my libc6-dev had a bug, so i downloaded a working version and forced a downgrade, now i seem to have broken openc++, libstdc etc, which now i cannot bring the original libc6-dev back into the system because it to depends on a different version, any ideas? |
| 14:56.47 | borco | simonrvn, i could compile the ide into the kernel, but i wanted to know if there is any better solution... |
| 14:56.54 | simonrvn | borco: do you have the initrd in your bootloader config? or is is this your kernel? |
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| 14:56.58 | simonrvn | borco: no |
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| 14:57.07 | locus | Hi, im using sarge and a vanilla 2.5.16 kernel on a nfs server and the [nfsd] processes are using a _huge_ amount of CPU time. Are there any dangers using the nfs-kernel-server package with a custom / vanilla server? |
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| 14:57.19 | borco | simonrvn, let me check .... |
| 14:57.35 | grukti | onetinsoldier to have put that .xsession file in every users home dir? |
| 14:57.52 | grukti | arrg typos.. |
| 14:58.24 | simonrvn | only control freaks would do that |
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| 14:58.40 | frood | hey all |
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| 14:59.22 | onetinsoldier | grukti: well, i suppose so. seems i've solved this problem before without having to resort to doing something like that, but i don't remember what i did. |
| 14:59.28 | frood | do you have to apt-get an SMP kernel package in order to get SMP support, or does the standard 2.6.8 kernel with sarge include support for SMP? |
| 14:59.33 | grukti | it loads still that gnome |
| 14:59.40 | blondie | frood: you have to use an smp kernel |
| 14:59.44 | blondie | specifically |
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| 15:00.03 | frood | great, thanks |
| 15:00.10 | Ab3l | hi, i've a prolem, sudenty debian refuses to boot, boot sequence stops saying "KERNEL PANIC: attempt to kill init" what i can do ? |
| 15:00.13 | frood | that includes dual core i take it? |
| 15:00.30 | blondie | frood: I think so |
| 15:00.39 | frood | ok :) |
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| 15:00.44 | [eloi] | frood: sure does |
| 15:00.52 | onetinsoldier | grukti: try an update-alternatives --config x-session-manager ...maybe set that one to 'none' or something. not sure. |
| 15:00.54 | jonas22 | does anyone have a link to the etch nightly iso's? |
| 15:01.02 | borco | simonrvn, no. but this should have been added by update-grub .... could it be because i didn't tell explicitly to make-kpkg to make an initrd kernel? |
| 15:01.17 | carlos_ | Algu?m conhece uma maneira mais simples de autenticar usu?rios em esta??es que n?o use o LDAP? Sei que o samba ? bem simples de usar. Ele pode ser uma solu??o? Estrou trabalhando com 1 servidor e 9 esta??es, todos debian. |
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| 15:01.31 | simonrvn | borco: 99% of the time you don't need an initrd |
| 15:01.36 | kombi | stew: are sou there still? |
| 15:01.40 | kombi | *you |
| 15:01.48 | Ronin | !es |
| 15:01.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:01.59 | jonas22 | he's speaking portuguese |
| 15:02.04 | Ronin | !br |
| 15:02.04 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:02.10 | carlos_ | sorry |
| 15:02.12 | carlos_ | thanks |
| 15:02.15 | Ab3l | h-e-l-p |
| 15:02.15 | carlos_ | bye |
| 15:02.19 | jonas22 | adeus |
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| 15:02.46 | borco | simonrvn, so what could be the problem then? the grub does not have an initrd line for this kernel... but that line should be generated by the update-grub, if needed, anyway ... |
| 15:02.47 | blondie | au revoir |
| 15:03.08 | grukti | hups was running startx as root (and in root home dir there are no .xsession file) now it works |
| 15:03.15 | kombi | can any command line mail client send attachments < 10Megs? |
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| 15:03.19 | Ab3l | h-e-l-p me pls |
| 15:03.28 | blondie | !pls |
| 15:03.28 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 15:03.29 | kombi | Ab31: what is it? |
| 15:03.33 | Ab3l | hi, i've a prolem, sudenty debian refuses to boot, boot sequence stops saying "KERNEL PANIC: attempt to kill init" what i can do ? |
| 15:03.33 | Ronin | Ab3l: best just to tell us the problem, oh and its help |
| 15:03.34 | onetinsoldier | grukti: ah-ha. ok, very well then. :-) |
| 15:03.50 | kombi | Ab31: stick a CD in |
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| 15:03.56 | jonas22 | this is it i guess? : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 15:04.06 | Ab3l | need to reinstall ? |
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| 15:04.40 | grukti | how to i edit icewm menus? any apps to that? |
| 15:04.49 | thingfish | that looks about right, jonas22 |
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| 15:04.57 | Ab3l | kombi .> need to reinstall ? |
| 15:05.14 | jonas22 | Ab3l, do you have multiple kernels in your boot menu? perhaps one of them will work and you can fix the problem with the default one |
| 15:05.19 | Xoritor | anyone here using ldap auth? |
| 15:05.29 | Ab3l | no |
| 15:05.43 | kombi | Ab31: no, just try to boot from it, but jonas is probably right too |
| 15:05.54 | Ab3l | ah ok i'll try so ;) thx |
| 15:05.58 | Ab3l | see u later |
| 15:06.08 | joker^23 | hey im a noob in linux, but i realy what to run debian, an iv got a small problem, can anny one here help me ? |
| 15:06.24 | blondie | joker^23: please say what the problem actually is |
| 15:06.28 | joker^23 | it the first boot |
| 15:06.28 | Ronin | joker^23: tell us the problem |
| 15:06.35 | joker^23 | 2sek |
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| 15:06.54 | yang | i got a bunch of errors, when trying to upgrade on 2.4.27, can someone tell me if its wise to update - http://pastebin.com/746857 |
| 15:07.02 | joker^23 | my machine stalhs on this... |
| 15:07.07 | joker^23 | Setting up filsystem, please wait…….. |
| 15:07.07 | joker^23 | NET4: UNIX domain sockets 1.0/SMP for linux NET4.0 |
| 15:07.08 | joker^23 | Insmod: fan.o: module by that name not found |
| 15:07.08 | joker^23 | Modprob: failed to load module fan |
| 15:07.08 | joker^23 | Insmod: thermal.o: module by that name not found |
| 15:07.08 | joker^23 | Modprob: failed to load module thermal |
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| 15:07.22 | yang | joker^23: go to #flood |
| 15:07.23 | joker^23 | and is just stops |
| 15:07.27 | kettel | Hi. Do I need to install any special libraries to get digest (MD5, SHA-1, etc.) support in Debian? |
| 15:08.14 | borco | simonrvn, bye. i have to go. |
| 15:08.18 | borco | bye. |
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| 15:09.07 | [eloi] | kettel: where, in your /etc/shadow file? |
| 15:09.15 | joker^23 | cant understand i cous i ran it on the same machine but whit a 160gb hhd, and that bois dint support 160gb hhd so the gnub f... up, now i run a 30gb hhd and it halts ? |
| 15:09.28 | joker^23 | Insmod: fan.o: module by that name not found |
| 15:09.28 | joker^23 | Modprob: failed to load module fan |
| 15:09.34 | joker^23 | Insmod: thermal.o: module by that name not found |
| 15:09.35 | joker^23 | Modprob: failed to load module thermal |
| 15:09.41 | joker^23 | Starting system log deamon: syslogd. Klogd. |
| 15:09.41 | joker^23 | Using /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o |
| 15:09.41 | joker^23 | Using /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usc-uhci.o |
| 15:09.43 | onetinsoldier | grukti: i wil say that is getting into some customization that might require a fair amount of fiddling on your part, unless there is some app for icewm that does that. but i can point you to have a peek at the dirs(and readme's) in /etc/menu and /etc/menu-methods |
| 15:09.44 | joker^23 | and stops |
| 15:09.56 | kettel | [eloi]: no, I need it for Ruby. |
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| 15:10.16 | [eloi] | kettel: ah... well, then, sounds like you need ruby modules for those :) |
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| 15:10.35 | kettel | [eloi]: yup, except they don't compile for some reason :) |
| 15:10.49 | [eloi] | define "don't compile" |
| 15:10.58 | grukti | fount some apps to copy menus from gnome to icewm...(gno2ice) |
| 15:11.05 | kettel | gcc -g -O2 -DRUBY_EXPORT -rdynamic -Wl,-export-dynamic -L. main.o ext/extinit.o ext/bigdecimal/bigdecimal.a ext/digest/digest.a ext/digest/md5/md5.a ext/digest/sha1/sha1.a ext/enumerator/enumerator.a ext/io/wait/wait.a ext/openssl/openssl.a ext/readline/readline.a ext/socket/socket.a ext/stringio/stringio.a ext/zlib/zlib.a -lruby-static -ldl -lcrypt -lm -lssl -lcrypto -lreadline -lncurses -lz -o ruby |
| 15:11.06 | kettel | ext/digest/md5/md5.a(md5init.o)(.data.rel+0x8): In function `Init_md5': |
| 15:11.06 | kettel | /home/kettel/install/ruby-1.8.4/ext/digest/md5/md5init.c:23: undefined reference to `rb_Digest_MD5_Init' |
| 15:11.13 | kombi | how do you mail large attachments from command line? |
| 15:11.20 | simonrvn | ffs stop pasting here |
| 15:11.28 | kettel | [eloi]: ^ (sorry, I don't usually paste that much) |
| 15:11.37 | [eloi] | kettel: oh, ruby itself won't compile |
| 15:11.42 | yang | kettel: go to #flood |
| 15:11.59 | kombi | because mutt for one can't deal.. |
| 15:12.05 | kettel | [eloi]: yup, though the problem is when compiling some needed module, not really Ruby itself. |
| 15:12.24 | onetinsoldier | kombi: not sure. perhaps the mua package 'mutt' is capable of doing that? |
| 15:12.26 | kettel | the MD5 module, specifically. |
| 15:12.29 | rhalff_ | hi where is dbg ? isn't this a standard package for debian ? |
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| 15:12.51 | rhalff_ | hmm |
| 15:12.53 | rhalff_ | let it :) |
| 15:12.54 | kombi | onetinsoldier: mail user agent is what I'm using.. |
| 15:13.11 | onetinsoldier | kombi: well mutt is an mua |
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| 15:13.45 | kombi | onetinsoldier: sorry, mutt is what I'm using, it declines to send anything bigger then 6Megs |
| 15:13.49 | ibroadfo | should I be installing linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 instead of linux-image-2.6.16-1-k7 ? |
| 15:14.07 | onetinsoldier | kombi: ahh, i see. what is the error message? |
| 15:14.20 | kombi | wait.. |
| 15:14.26 | yang | ibroadfo: 2.6.16-2 is more recent |
| 15:14.45 | matju | what is the global setting for saying where are mail folders to be found in each user's directory? On some machines it's set to "" and on some it's set to "mail/", but i can't find it. I believe that both Pine and SquirrelMail use it. |
| 15:14.45 | grukti | does anyone know some app that would allow me to edit icewm menus? |
| 15:14.45 | kombi | onetinsoldier: something memory I recall.. |
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| 15:15.58 | zege | hi, i've got a problem. my fileserver running sarge got a terminalserver today and so i want to install gnome 2.14 because of the lockdown features and gstreamer 1.0 because of the added funktions. Is it possible to get *.deb's for gnome 2.14 to upgrade my system? |
| 15:16.32 | kombi | onetinsoldier: Error 69 Services unavailable, memory access error |
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| 15:16.53 | onetinsoldier | kombi: well my first thought is that it's refusing to do it because the mail transfer agent(yours or your isp's) does not accept attachements over 6 megs. i'm certain if that's why your having trouble tho |
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| 15:17.07 | [eloi] | kettel: my system has a library (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux/digest/md5.so) with the symbol you seek... see if you can find and link with that library |
| 15:17.11 | onetinsoldier | kombi: i have no idea what to make of that error |
| 15:17.39 | kombi | onetinsoldier: mta is my own, usually deals large files fine.. strange |
| 15:17.43 | [eloi] | kettel: note that the name's probably different on your system, unless you're running an athlon 64 like me :) |
| 15:18.34 | onetinsoldier | kombi: roger. what are you using? i use sendmail 8.13.6 with sasl2. |
| 15:18.44 | kettel | [eloi]: thanks, I might have solved this |
| 15:18.59 | kettel | [eloi]: seems that I've made a silly mistake in the build process. |
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| 15:19.45 | lws | Anybody know what happened to samba package in etch? |
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| 15:19.49 | lws | for amd64 |
| 15:19.54 | christor | Please I m currently configuring my wifi using wpa auth , and it s doesn t work. No driver interfaces build into wpa_supplicant. ?? I have installed wpasupplicant via the apt-get |
| 15:19.54 | kombi | onetinsoldier: postfix 2.2.8 on this box (good old sendmail on another) |
| 15:19.56 | zege | no one knows? |
| 15:20.03 | azeem | lws: was it ever in testing for amd64? |
| 15:20.10 | onetinsoldier | kombi: roger. cool, was just curious |
| 15:20.14 | lws | azeem: I don't know, but I'd like it if it was... |
| 15:20.29 | onetinsoldier | kombi: could be a postfix problem.. dunno |
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| 15:20.58 | kombi | onetinsoldier: possible.. right.. |
| 15:21.02 | kettel | [eloi]: I forgot to overwrite some of the build files. |
| 15:21.10 | lws | azeem: it's in stable, and unstable, but missing from testing for some reason. |
| 15:21.13 | kettel | [eloi]: now it's ok. thanks for your help :) |
| 15:21.20 | [eloi] | kettel: good work |
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| 15:22.13 | azeem | !why is samba not in testing |
| 15:22.14 | dpkg | samba is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=samba |
| 15:22.17 | azeem | lws: ^^ |
| 15:22.32 | lws | wow, smart bot |
| 15:22.32 | azeem | actually, d'oh |
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| 15:22.47 | azeem | lws: it's not in testing because testing for amd64 is only slowly populated |
| 15:22.56 | azeem | it'll be fine in a while |
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| 15:23.10 | cluck | hi |
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| 15:23.52 | stoneage | hi, i'm using etch and since the latest gstreamer update my mp3 playback is broken, someone can help me out?? |
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| 15:24.36 | newb1e | how to play mp3 files in amarok? i use unstable version f debian |
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| 15:25.20 | newb1e | there is no arts or gstreamer engine in amarok now |
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| 15:25.55 | jetscreamer | hey would wget somehow cp the same file to different filenames due to some kind of server html serving? i got 3 files that have exactly the same content... index.html, style.css and some other |
| 15:26.00 | lws | azeem: i don't really want to be in testing anyways. I can't install stable though =/ |
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| 15:26.56 | azeem | !esm |
| 15:26.56 | dpkg | from memory, quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, edit sources.list, duplicate your etch lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update. use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from sid rather than etch as usual. consider making sure you've read the APT HOWTO when setting this up, as it exposes to unstable packages |
| 15:26.58 | faber3 | morning, good |
| 15:26.59 | azeem | lws: ^^ |
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| 15:27.13 | faber3 | is there a program in debian which allows me to merge multiple pdfs into one?` |
| 15:27.13 | azeem | lws: you can try to install samba from unstable for the time being if you really need it |
| 15:27.21 | lws | azeem: the sata_svw drivers are missing from linux2.6 in stable |
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| 15:27.45 | lws | azeem: I wonder if I couldn't downgrade and roll my own kernel somehow. |
| 15:27.55 | azeem | you cannot downgrade |
| 15:28.03 | azeem | it is not supported |
| 15:28.04 | lws | azeem: I have no problems compiling a kernel, but I need to be able to install. |
| 15:28.15 | Tropican8 | stoneage: try reinstalling gstreamer0.8-mad |
| 15:28.20 | lws | azeem: I don't mind formatting the drive :) |
| 15:28.32 | azeem | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 15:28.32 | dpkg | somebody said sarge 2.6.15 was http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 15:28.34 | azeem | you can try that |
| 15:28.43 | azeem | but there were some issues on amd64, so beware |
| 15:28.49 | stoneage | Tropican8: but im @ gstreamer0.10 anyway |
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| 15:29.11 | lws | azeem: Should I just do i386, I don't really need to do any heavy math processing. |
| 15:29.23 | azeem | lws: that's another possibility |
| 15:29.40 | lws | still can't install stable for i386 i don't think :) |
| 15:29.47 | lws | Maybe with this installer with the newer kernel |
| 15:29.53 | Tropican8 | hmm, interesting, well it looks from a quick search on packages.debian.org that the mad decoder is only for .8. |
| 15:30.21 | stoneage | Tropican8: yes, for 0.10 its the fluendo decoder ;) |
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| 15:30.55 | lws | azeem: Thanks for your help |
| 15:31.06 | Tropican8 | Fluendo? Well I don't know if I can help you with that one, lemme read some about it, hold on |
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| 15:31.24 | neuro__ | ok i am really really new to debian but no linux |
| 15:31.29 | neuro__ | is there not a package to install ant & java |
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| 15:31.49 | lws | neuro__: Java is a questionable thing to instlal apparently :) Licensing issues. |
| 15:32.15 | neuro_damage | huh |
| 15:32.15 | azeem | Sun java is in non-free for unstable |
| 15:32.15 | neuro_damage | yeah i'm seeing weird web pages on how to generate my own package ? |
| 15:32.16 | lws | neuro_damage: I usually just go grab the sun java RPMS and use alien on them. |
| 15:32.16 | azeem | !java-package |
| 15:32.16 | dpkg | i heard java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 15:32.30 | jetscreamer | !tell neuro_damage -about non-free |
| 15:32.32 | azeem | lws: please don't advocate that, but tell people to use java-package |
| 15:32.44 | lws | azeem: oh, I didn't know about that though. |
| 15:32.49 | jetscreamer | sun jre is in sources now as well as the sdk |
| 15:33.02 | jetscreamer | non-free |
| 15:33.02 | tarzeau | how can i convert text to ps? |
| 15:33.08 | lazzarello | Yea! no more jpkg! |
| 15:33.10 | neuro_damage | yeah ok I saw that, I will do that azeem |
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| 15:33.11 | neuro_damage | thank you |
| 15:33.12 | azeem | jetscreamer: I don't think we should spam new users with politics about non-free |
| 15:33.23 | jetscreamer | i just answered the question |
| 15:33.24 | tarzeau | i want to print text only from command line to the printer but lpr adds some header/footer i don't want |
| 15:33.37 | azeem | tarzeau: a2ps? |
| 15:33.40 | neuro_damage | is ant the same way azeem |
| 15:33.46 | azeem | neuro_damage: nah, dunno about ant |
| 15:34.00 | neuro_damage | ok cause I haven't found a package for that either besides libant1.5* |
| 15:34.05 | tarzeau | azeem: do you know the command options? it somehow didn't work for me |
| 15:34.08 | azeem | ant should be around |
| 15:34.19 | azeem | tarzeau: uhm, did you read the manpage? |
| 15:34.24 | azeem | what did you try? |
| 15:34.32 | azeem | cat foo | a2ps should work |
| 15:34.33 | jetscreamer | !mannoob tarzeau |
| 15:34.40 | tarzeau | azeem: a2ps -P display text |
| 15:34.41 | azeem | it sends stuff directly to the printer AFAIK |
| 15:34.54 | tarzeau | yes it came out but wrong |
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| 15:35.17 | neuro_damage | tarzeau, how are you trying to print? |
| 15:35.22 | neuro_damage | what are you trying to do with a2ps? |
| 15:36.22 | Xoritor | anyone setup debain as a client to an ldap dir? |
| 15:36.23 | Tropican8 | stoneage: well try reinsalling gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3. mad for gstreamer 10 is in the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package if you can't get fluendo working |
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| 15:36.34 | tarzeau | i want to have it in a file not on the printer |
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| 15:36.40 | azeem | tarzeau: -o file |
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| 15:36.59 | stoneage | Tropican8: okay, ill try that ... thx |
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| 15:37.35 | jetscreamer | fluendo is a codec? |
| 15:37.50 | azeem | no, it's a company |
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| 15:38.17 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.21 | Tropican8 | they make a free mp3 plugin for gstreamer under the same name |
| 15:38.34 | tarzeau | azeem: k that works, but it maeks t pages on 1 sheet |
| 15:38.36 | jetscreamer | i've heard of flour daniel... :) |
| 15:38.36 | tarzeau | 2 |
| 15:39.02 | azeem | tarzeau: that's the default |
| 15:39.12 | azeem | I guess there's an option to change that |
| 15:39.42 | christor | Please I have compiled properly the madwifi drivers ( module is loaded now and iwconfig shom me my int ath0 ) , I have compiled the wpa_supplicant drivers with the madwifi drivers and no errors appears. And when I execute wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi I have the error :No driver interfaces build into wpa_supplicant |
| 15:39.56 | stoneage | okay, the mad decoder works ... fluendo-mp3 seems broken for the moment @ etch |
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| 15:40.16 | tarzeau | azeem: you dont' get any header/footers? |
| 15:40.51 | hyph-n | hi all |
| 15:40.51 | azeem | sure I get |
| 15:40.51 | tarzeau | azeem: like filename, pagenumber, date, etc? |
| 15:40.51 | neuro_damage | azeem, it says to get java-package from contrib how do I do this? |
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| 15:41.09 | azeem | neuro_damage: add contrib next to main in your /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update and then apt-get install java-package |
| 15:41.15 | hyph-n | i have a question, for some bright spark.. |
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| 15:42.35 | neuro_damage | azeem, ok ty |
| 15:42.57 | hyph-n | i've just installed Kernel 2.6 on a Dell 2500... (using 3.1rc2) |
| 15:43.07 | hyph-n | and now i can't mount my cdrom... |
| 15:43.14 | hyph-n | i can mount it ok using 2.4... |
| 15:43.17 | neuro_damage | huh |
| 15:43.18 | hyph-n | any ideas? |
| 15:43.20 | neuro_damage | dmesg says? |
| 15:43.25 | neuro_damage | about your cdrom? |
| 15:43.52 | hyph-n | yes - cdrom... can't see it after installing / booting 2.6 |
| 15:44.04 | simonrvn | !any ideas |
| 15:44.05 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little sauerkraut, and a dozen rabid platypuses. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 15:44.50 | hyph-n | kernel 2.6.8-3-386 to be precise |
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| 15:45.06 | neuro_damage | azeem, so if i want to install ant which is unstable how do I do this for just one package? or do i have to update all my sources.list with unstable keyword after contrib? |
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| 15:45.21 | azeem | neuro_damage: are you running stable or testing? |
| 15:45.26 | omkar86 | hi |
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| 15:45.32 | neuro_damage | azeem, stable |
| 15:45.40 | azeem | !info ant stable |
| 15:45.42 | dpkg | ant: (Java based build tool like make), section contrib/devel, is optional. Version: 1.6.2-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 4751 kB, Installed size: 7848 kB |
| 15:45.51 | azeem | it's in contrib as well |
| 15:45.52 | omkar86 | anyone using Sarge? |
| 15:45.56 | azeem | omkar86: sure |
| 15:46.08 | omkar86 | i m getting DNS problme |
| 15:46.17 | kombi | which directive was it again that shows the content of a directory in httpd? |
| 15:46.26 | newb1e | how to play mp3 with xine in debian unstable? |
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| 15:46.36 | petemc | kombi: directory index |
| 15:46.37 | omkar86 | my DNS as well as /etc/resolv.conf changes every few minutes |
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| 15:47.03 | omkar86 | to default 192.168.1.1 which is WRONG!!! I want 203.94.x.x as my DNS |
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| 15:47.44 | yang | SteW: are you there? |
| 15:47.50 | stew | omkar86: man dhclient.conf, you'll have to override the nameserver settings you are getting via dhcp |
| 15:47.55 | yang | Stew: i got a bunch of errors, when trying to upgrade on 2.4.27, can someone tell me if its wise to update - http://pastebin.com/746857 |
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| 15:48.27 | omkar86 | thank @ stew |
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| 15:48.54 | rockstar_ | Does anyone know where I can find the deb package for k9copy? |
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| 15:49.07 | hyph-n | anyone got any ideas about broken cdrom after installing 2.6.8 ? |
| 15:49.13 | stew | yang: hmm, that doesn't look good. you might try installing a new version of module-init-tools |
| 15:49.18 | rockstar_ | I know it used to be in unstable... |
| 15:49.40 | stew | hyph-n: do you have the ide-scsi kernel module loaded? |
| 15:50.11 | omkar86 | i dont have dhclient installed.... apt-get is not giving dhclient |
| 15:50.32 | stew | rockstar_: i don't think it was on unstable, it's in marillat however, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 15:50.48 | yang | stew: FROM SARGE? |
| 15:50.54 | stew | yang: yes |
| 15:50.59 | hyph-n | stew: not sure... will check |
| 15:51.10 | hyph-n | stew: it worked ok with 2.4... |
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| 15:51.36 | stew | omkar86: dhclient is in the dhcp-client package, which you probably have installed |
| 15:51.44 | rockstar_ | stew, found it. Forgot I had commented out marrilat for a while. |
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| 15:51.53 | rockstar_ | stew, thanks a bunch! |
| 15:52.03 | stew | rockstar_: you're welcome |
| 15:52.07 | yang | The following extra packages will be installed: |
| 15:52.07 | yang | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.07 | omkar86 | stew: ok so i need to change /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 15:52.09 | yang | Stew: I cant do that - |
| 15:52.24 | yang | Stew: i cannot upgrade libc6 becouse my kernel is too old... |
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| 15:53.57 | hyph-n | stew: ok - how do i check i have ide-scsi installed...? |
| 15:53.57 | stew | yang: i'm not sure then. did you read the release notes? |
| 15:54.10 | stew | hyph-n: lsmod | grep scsi |
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| 15:55.20 | rockstar_ | Argh -- I need a deb copy of libdvdread3 version 0.9.6 -- It's not in unstable. |
| 15:55.21 | hyph-n | stew: only lists scsi_mod |
| 15:55.46 | Xoritor | so ldapsearch works fine, but ssh auth does not... it may be the settings in pam, anyone ever setup ldap auth via pam in here? |
| 15:56.03 | Xoritor | getent passwd <username> works fine |
| 15:56.10 | Xoritor | so nss is setup good |
| 15:56.10 | omkar86 | can i get personal help here? |
| 15:56.19 | omkar86 | in personal chat.. |
| 15:56.30 | yang | stew: yes, its suggesting kernel upgrade |
| 15:56.34 | omkar86 | i am a complete newbie |
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| 15:57.31 | faber3 | is anyone using putty here? |
| 15:57.37 | simonrvn | Xoritor: yes. |
| 15:57.41 | blondie | faber3: yes |
| 15:58.21 | omkar86 | anyone from india ? |
| 15:58.38 | omkar86 | or bombay? |
| 15:58.42 | Ronin | omkar86: just ask the question/state the problem |
| 15:58.46 | blondie | bombay? wasn't that renamed? |
| 15:59.00 | omkar86 | yeah! |
| 15:59.06 | omkar86 | renamed to MUMBAI |
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| 15:59.26 | faber3 | simonrvn: blondie: do you guys also have the problem when resizing the putty window that the bash shell does not adjust the column width? |
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| 15:59.35 | omkar86 | @ronin is it ok to just keep on asking questions? |
| 15:59.37 | ravenbird | okay, omkar86 |
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| 16:00.02 | omkar86 | i feel like very novice user here |
| 16:00.04 | Ronin | omkar86: of course, however waiting for an answer hepls too |
| 16:00.09 | simonrvn | omkar86: please don't do that |
| 16:00.11 | Xoritor | simonrvn, do you have a good "howto" or any good refs i can study? |
| 16:00.31 | Xoritor | simonrvn, i have it working in almost all instances... but ssh eludes me |
| 16:00.46 | simonrvn | @forget ronin |
| 16:00.48 | ravenbird | i forgot ronin, simonrvn |
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| 16:01.04 | omkar86 | anyone on ADSL |
| 16:01.06 | blondie | faber3: nope |
| 16:01.10 | Ronin | nooo dont forget me!!! |
| 16:01.11 | rubyrub | hi i wana compile my kernel new and wana delete all is it enough to make mrproper? |
| 16:01.15 | simonrvn | Xoritor: turn on usepam in sshd_config |
| 16:01.23 | Xoritor | simonrvn, its on |
| 16:01.23 | blondie | omkar86: no, no-one uses that any more |
| 16:01.29 | Xoritor | simonrvn, and restarted |
| 16:01.32 | norbs999 | hi there, I'm looking for a programm that show me what files are currently accessed by wich application. I guess sth like this does extist. anyone has an idea? |
| 16:01.37 | azeem | omkar86: try to ask specific questions |
| 16:01.41 | Xoritor | simonrvn, i wish that were the issue |
| 16:01.43 | omkar86 | @blondie ok |
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| 16:01.45 | faber3 | blondie: mmhhh... on large command strings i get wrapping errors after resizing the putty window |
| 16:01.57 | Xoritor | aaah... i just walked over and i can not log in manually at the prompt |
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| 16:02.02 | Xoritor | something is b0rked in pam |
| 16:02.07 | simonrvn | omkar86: please stop using @ in front of your messages |
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| 16:02.10 | onetinsoldier | norbs999: try lsof. apt-get install lsof |
| 16:02.18 | kugg | faber3: test ctrl + L |
| 16:02.19 | Xoritor | simonrvn, it does see all my accounts |
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| 16:02.25 | norbs999 | fine! I'll try. THX! |
| 16:02.28 | omkar86 | azeem: i will b back within few minutes with a bunch of questions |
| 16:02.33 | omkar86 | brb |
| 16:02.34 | faber3 | kugg: what is that? |
| 16:02.36 | omkar86 | bye |
| 16:02.41 | blondie | faber3: have you changed any of the terminal settings in putty? |
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| 16:02.41 | onetinsoldier | norbs999: you're welcome |
| 16:02.43 | kugg | redraw screen faber3 |
| 16:02.46 | simonrvn | Xoritor: what's your slapd log saying? (BTW, there's an #ldap here) |
| 16:02.59 | kugg | clears out your string hopefully |
| 16:02.59 | marco13185 | I was trying to resize my Debian partition with knoppix, and it appears that I succesfully did so, however, when I boot Debian I get an error saying to run fsck manually, upon doing so I get an error saying that the file system size is larger than the devices size |
| 16:03.06 | marco13185 | wtf is happening? |
| 16:03.30 | jair | it is anyway I can check what services are running by inetd by default? |
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| 16:03.47 | rockstar_ | marco, could be caused by a lot of things actually. Does the disk still boot? |
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| 16:03.51 | Xoritor | simonrvn, its not an ldap issue... its a debain issue (as far as im concerned) cause all my RHEL, FC, OS X, etc... clients work fine |
| 16:04.01 | faber3 | kugg: CTRL-L you mean? it does not help. the only thing what helps is "COLUMNS=87" or whatever width my putty has |
| 16:04.05 | marco13185 | rockstar_, yes, Debian boots fine, right up until it has to mount the root partition |
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| 16:04.32 | rockstar_ | marco13185, so it doesn't boot to command prompt... |
| 16:04.46 | Xoritor | simonrvn, the slapd stuff does not give any errors... but /var/log/auth.log does |
| 16:04.48 | marco13185 | rockstar_, I get a command line with the root partition mounted read-only |
| 16:04.59 | simonrvn | Xoritor: whatever. that doesn't matter. what have you done so far? |
| 16:05.10 | marco13185 | rockstar_, but now I'm booted into knoppix |
| 16:05.14 | Xoritor | the /var/log/auth.log says failed password |
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| 16:05.32 | Xoritor | simonrvn, i have installed the libnss and libpam for ldap |
| 16:05.35 | rockstar_ | marco13185, you booted knoppix from cd? |
| 16:05.40 | marco13185 | rockstar_, yes |
| 16:05.40 | simonrvn | Xoritor: yeh, ok. did you config them? |
| 16:05.44 | Xoritor | used the dpkg config tool for those |
| 16:06.00 | Xoritor | made sure i copied over my cacert and pointed to the dir its in |
| 16:06.03 | simonrvn | they have different files to configure |
| 16:06.07 | Xoritor | yea |
| 16:06.08 | marco13185 | rockstar_, I used knoppix to resize the partition |
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| 16:06.32 | rockstar_ | marco13185, hate to say it, but you probably borked your hard drive. Unless you're a freakin' math wiz (and I've never met one THAT good), you're probably up a creek. Resizing partitions is ALWAYS scary. |
| 16:06.35 | oleg | I'm sorry, where can I talk about books? |
| 16:06.42 | hyph-n | stew: how do i install ide-scsi kernel module...? |
| 16:06.43 | blondie | huh? |
| 16:06.45 | Ronin | oleg: books? |
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| 16:06.51 | Xoritor | i configed /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/ldap/ldap.conf /etc/pam_ldap.conf to use ldap and the right hosts etc... |
| 16:06.58 | blondie | #books? |
| 16:07.00 | jroq | me encanta |
| 16:07.03 | marco13185 | rockstar_, err, I'm sure that this isn't unfixable, I mean, the partition is there |
| 16:07.07 | Xoritor | simonrvn, those all of them? |
| 16:07.13 | marco13185 | it's just that either the filesystem or partition table are corrupt. |
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| 16:07.19 | jroq | yes |
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| 16:07.29 | blondie | yes... |
| 16:07.31 | Xoritor | simonrvn, i also set the pam libs in /etc/pam.d/common-* to use the ldap stuff |
| 16:07.35 | WorldBFree | could anybody explain how to use wine? im trying to load an exe from another hd |
| 16:07.52 | blondie | !wine |
| 16:07.52 | dpkg | well, wine is at http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 16:08.03 | simonrvn | how about libnss_ldap.conf? (but that's for NSS, not PAM). what do you have in /etc/pam.d/ssh, and nsswitch.conf? use #flood or a pastebin (URI to follow) |
| 16:08.05 | simonrvn | !paster |
| 16:08.05 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 16:08.09 | rockstar_ | marco13185, Well, it's not that it's unfixable. I'm just say it's not likely without divine intervention. |
| 16:08.23 | simonrvn | Xoritor: ok |
| 16:08.45 | tarzeau | what's wrong if a linux hangs at Loading whatever and Ready. |
| 16:08.46 | rockstar_ | marco13185, run fsck on the partition from knoppix, but be sure that the drive ISN'T mounted first. Sometimes knoppix will automount drives. |
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| 16:09.13 | Xoritor | simonrvn, i dont have an libnss_ldap.conf |
| 16:10.19 | marco13185 | rockstar_, mind if I message you with an error I got |
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| 16:10.19 | Xoritor | simonrvn, and as i just found out i can not login as a user at the console either |
| 16:10.19 | simonrvn | Xoritor: sorry - not _ |
| 16:10.19 | stew | hyph-n: you don't want ide-scsi, but ide-cd, "modprobe ide-cd" |
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| 16:10.42 | hyph-n | stew: returns nothing.. :-( |
| 16:10.53 | stew | hyph-n: that's good, now try your cd again |
| 16:11.11 | Zvpun | how can I make a program a program run even if I logout. One way was screen. I dont remember the other way. I cant use screen because I want to start the prog within a script. |
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| 16:11.23 | simonrvn | nohup |
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| 16:11.35 | rockstar_ | marco13185, fire away. I'm using bitchx right now though, so don't make a habit of it. Haven't moved to xchat entirely yet. |
| 16:11.36 | omkar86 | i am back |
| 16:11.37 | Zvpun | exactly. that was what I was looking for |
| 16:11.57 | hyph-n | stew: nothing... |
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| 16:12.11 | omkar86 | irc is much better than yahoo chat |
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| 16:12.16 | Xoritor | simonrvn, hmm... no i had not configed that one... it has the same syntax as pam-ldap.conf and i just link them? |
| 16:12.24 | hyph-n | stew: previously (with 2.4) it was on /dev/hda... |
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| 16:12.44 | hyph-n | stew: when i type mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom |
| 16:12.45 | Xoritor | ie ln /etc/pam_ldap.conf /etc/libnss-ldap.conf |
| 16:12.51 | Brox | how can i find out how much RAM i can use? |
| 16:12.59 | simonrvn | link them? no, not quite the same. the first bits they are, but they take different stuff |
| 16:13.03 | Xoritor | or should they remain seperate |
| 16:13.04 | Xoritor | oh |
| 16:13.05 | Xoritor | hmm |
| 16:13.06 | Xoritor | ok |
| 16:13.08 | omkar86 | i am having problems reconfiguring DHCP on Sarge |
| 16:13.13 | jair | If I want to check the logs of inetd?? in debian sarge? |
| 16:13.13 | hyph-n | stew: i get mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist. |
| 16:13.16 | Xoritor | let me do this and see what i get |
| 16:13.18 | Xoritor | thx |
| 16:13.22 | omkar86 | how to reconfigure DHCP? |
| 16:13.30 | onetinsoldier | hyph-n: sounds like it might have mounted if you didn't get an error message. or did you get one? |
| 16:13.46 | stew | hyph-n: do you have the udev package installed? |
| 16:13.48 | hyph-n | onetinsoldier: got one |
| 16:13.51 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 16:14.00 | hyph-n | stew: not sure... |
| 16:14.25 | onetinsoldier | dpkg -l udev |
| 16:14.25 | dpkg | ii udev 1.7-5 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 16:14.45 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
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| 16:14.50 | onetinsoldier | dang bots! |
| 16:15.21 | hyph-n | mine is version 0.056-3 |
| 16:15.25 | Brox | i'm on a vserver so i don't want to know how much RAM is physically on the host and if possible without bugging the people who run it |
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| 16:15.52 | onetinsoldier | hyph-n: are you running sarge? |
| 16:16.02 | hyph-n | yes - 3.1rc2 |
| 16:16.06 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 16:16.12 | hyph-n | no sarge |
| 16:16.14 | hyph-n | :-) |
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| 16:17.35 | stew | hyph-n: do you boot from ide or something else like scsi or sata? |
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| 16:17.53 | hyph-n | stew: boot from scsi (raid 5) |
| 16:18.11 | hyph-n | stew: strange that it works with kernel 2.4 |
| 16:18.33 | stew | hyph-n: what does "lspci | grep IDE" return? |
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| 16:19.13 | hyph-n | stew: 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: ServerWorks OSB4 IDE Controller |
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| 16:19.42 | cahoot | Brox: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml |
| 16:20.38 | hyph-n | stew: so it looks like the cdrom is ide.. |
| 16:21.48 | rockstar_ | Holy crap, it is freakin' impossible to find a libdvdread3 0.9.6 -- Not even the debian web site has it. It has the page, but then says "package not available" |
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| 16:22.41 | stew | hyph-n: what does this return: lspci -n | grep "0f\.1" |
| 16:22.53 | JordiGH | Remind me: There's a personal file I need to modify somewhere so that I don't need to write ssh someplace if I want to enable X forwarding. What is it, short of putting an alias in my .bashrc? |
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| 16:22.59 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: i have libdvdread3 installed |
| 16:23.06 | JordiGH | ssh someplace -X, that is. |
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| 16:23.10 | hyph-n | stew: 0000:00:0f.1 0101: 1166:0211 |
| 16:23.17 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier - amd 64? |
| 16:23.24 | onetinsoldier | no |
| 16:23.28 | onetinsoldier | sorry |
| 16:23.38 | rockstar_ | I think that's where the problem is. amd64 packages sometimes get neglected. |
| 16:24.01 | stew | hyph-n: "modprobe serverworks" and try your cdrom again |
| 16:24.01 | stew | 24 |
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| 16:24.26 | rockstar_ | Found it! Ah ha! I am the king of google! |
| 16:24.35 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 16:25.06 | hyph-n | stew: same problem... it doesn't seem to like /dev/hda |
| 16:25.09 | onetinsoldier | you sure it isn't the other way around? google is your king? hehe |
| 16:25.12 | rockstar_ | I'm sure glad I read "The Google Hacker's Handbook" |
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| 16:25.44 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : No, google is the servant that does my bidding. I used the "file: " the specify the exact file I needed, and it freakin' found it. |
| 16:25.55 | belkrem | anyone here use a dvb card |
| 16:25.57 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 16:26.18 | hyph-n | stew: i can see from lsmod that.. |
| 16:26.20 | hyph-n | stew: ide_core 125028 3 serverworks,ide_disk,ide_cd |
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| 16:26.44 | rockstar_ | Anyone know how to get the apt-key for marillat's repository? |
| 16:26.46 | hyph-n | stew: so perhaps it just ain't /dev/hda anymore... |
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| 16:27.06 | rockstar_ | Not a big deal, just don't have to keep installing packages without authentication |
| 16:27.17 | chealer9 | !tell rockstar_ about debian-multimedia |
| 16:27.49 | chealer9 | !tell rockstar_ about marillat |
| 16:28.00 | stew | hyph-n: modprobe -r serverworks && modprobe serverworks ; and see what shows up in dmesg |
| 16:28.36 | JordiGH | Google is creepy... those bright colours, that friendly giant, that "trust me!" grin... |
| 16:28.41 | chealer9 | dpkg: debian-multimedia is <reply>see marillat |
| 16:28.41 | dpkg | chealer9: okay |
| 16:29.24 | JordiGH | Beware of geeks bearing gifts. |
| 16:29.32 | rockstar_ | !marillat.etch |
| 16:29.32 | dpkg | first, ask me about <marillat key>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 16:29.56 | rockstar_ | Well you should've just specified that... That's all I needed. |
| 16:30.02 | rockstar_ | !marillat key |
| 16:30.02 | dpkg | For apt >= 0.6, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907> |
| 16:30.25 | rockstar_ | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 16:30.25 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
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| 16:30.55 | stew | rockstar_: please /msg the bot |
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| 16:31.14 | rockstar_ | stew, didn't know I could do that... sorry. |
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| 16:31.53 | belkrem | I am trying to get a DVB card working can someone help i have debain with kernel 2.6.16 |
| 16:32.17 | Maulkin | Home time \o/ |
| 16:32.22 | hyph-n | stew: can see any reference to the cdrom / ide.. so i guess it isn't detecting it... |
| 16:32.42 | hyph-n | stew: i'll put back 2.4 & see what that comes up with... |
| 16:32.43 | JordiGH | Ooh, nice smiley. I didn't know that one. ô.o |
| 16:32.45 | stew | hyph-n: does /dev/cdrom exist? is it a device or a symlink? |
| 16:32.46 | rockstar_ | hyph-n, is the kernel configured for it? |
| 16:32.52 | Maulkin | belkrem: I'll be back in 2 hours if you can't find anyone else |
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| 16:33.03 | stew | belkrem: you have to give us more detail, like what you are trying and what is happening |
| 16:33.13 | stew | belkrem: and what card, what driver... |
| 16:33.21 | hyph-n | stew: no |
| 16:33.30 | hyph-n | rockstar_: no idea |
| 16:33.45 | stew | it is |
| 16:33.46 | hyph-n | will get back to this later... |
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| 16:34.02 | k8to | has anyone seen antialiased fonts in kde get blurry/colorfringed on the recent freetype update to 2.2..1 (from 2.1.10) |
| 16:34.03 | hyph-n | need to leave or wife will kill me (again!) |
| 16:34.16 | hyph-n | stew: cheers for your help... :-) |
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| 16:35.16 | nano__ | bonjour, j'ai un probleme a l'installation de etch |
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| 16:35.31 | nano__ | queleque pourrai t-il m'aider |
| 16:35.32 | belkrem | i used lspci and the card is listed it is a nexus-s with a saa7146 chip on it it is supposed tobe supported by the kernel but it doesn't seem to be setting up correctly there is no folder /dev/dvb/adaptor0 |
| 16:35.33 | rockstar_ | hyph-n , your wife must be amazing to be able to kill you again... |
| 16:35.37 | Maulkin | !fr |
| 16:35.37 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 16:36.19 | hyph-n | rockstar_: she is :-) |
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| 16:37.01 | TheCan | Hi - i?ve set up a base sarge system, now i manually installed a service which i want to run on each boot up - how do i do this? is there something like rc.local in debian or some file where i can put this? |
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| 16:37.12 | mc___ | does anyone know the Slime Directory of the debian slime package? |
| 16:37.17 | hyph-n | cheers all - thx |
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| 16:37.26 | cahoot | k8to: sub-pixel hinting at work? |
| 16:37.29 | sontekWRK | Hey, do you guys have a decent checklist of things you go through when securing a debian box/firewall? I want to make sure I hit everything :) |
| 16:37.49 | k8to | cahoot: yes i'm assuming it's something to do with that, which was previously enabled and is still enabled |
| 16:37.57 | rockstar_ | sontekWRK, do you have a list of services you'd like to run? That's where you should start. |
| 16:38.06 | Maulkin | !securing debian |
| 16:38.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, securing debian is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 16:38.18 | Maulkin | now, really *gone* |
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| 16:39.32 | JordiGH | slime, that reminds that I want a full-fledged Lisp environment in order to play around with Maxima code. |
| 16:39.38 | cahoot | k8to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg02199.html |
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| 16:40.01 | JordiGH | Besides slime, what are, uh, the standard things to install? |
| 16:40.50 | Timtow | I give up, it's toast...I'm just going to backup and reinstall everything, arggg.... |
| 16:41.06 | cahoot | k8to: or maybe better (sice you use kde): http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2006/05/msg00120.html |
| 16:41.07 | valdyn | sontekWRK: you run netstat -plunt and look what shouldnt be there |
| 16:41.17 | k8to | cahoot: i use konquror (that's it) |
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| 16:41.51 | belkrem | Debain sarge with kernel 2.6.16.18 dvd card=saa7146 things i have tried recompiled the kernel and made sure the drivers where loaded still nothing |
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| 16:42.54 | k8to | cahoot: more importantly, what search tool/method did you use |
| 16:43.37 | onetinsoldier | i would sure like to be able to get a gameport gamepad that i have working nad have tried numerous things, and some other folks have tried to help me with it, but have been unsuccessful so far. it is supposed to be supported. if anyone thinks they want to take a crack at getting it working let me know |
| 16:43.39 | cahoot | k8to: a semisecret one ;) http://lists.debian.org/search.html |
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| 16:44.16 | k8to | cahoot: i usually try flat google and fail |
| 16:44.24 | k8to | cahoot: i will try that in the future, thanks |
| 16:44.42 | k8to | cahoot: and meanwhile that did resolve the problem |
| 16:44.55 | cahoot | k8to: good to hear |
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| 16:45.24 | k8to | well, konqueror is whining a lot now: ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.2/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81), but let it whine I do not care :P |
| 16:45.46 | cahoot | k8to: is this sid or etch? |
| 16:45.51 | k8to | etch |
| 16:46.03 | k8to | it just bumped to the version where the "illegalz" hinting is enabled |
| 16:46.05 | cahoot | k8to: ok I know what to expect then |
| 16:46.37 | k8to | grr |
| 16:46.45 | k8to | the kcontrol panel edits .fonts.conf |
| 16:46.58 | rockstar_ | Does anyone know if there is a program that can change a udeb deb file to a standard deb file? |
| 16:47.05 | cahoot | k8to: ~/.fonts.conf - no? |
| 16:47.06 | k8to | i don't like how kde doesn't tell you what things it is doing are kde specific and which are global |
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| 16:47.27 | k8to | cahoot: yes |
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| 16:47.34 | rockstar_ | k8to: i don't like how kde... |
| 16:47.46 | JordiGH | rockstar_: alien doesn't do it? |
| 16:47.49 | k8to | rockstar_: are you saying this statement is true for all ... ? |
| 16:47.56 | jair | guys I have a very light installation of my debian machine, but I am almost running out of space, I am sure that are things on my debian that i do not use for example: exim4 I don't have this linux computer as MTA server or gateway. or any other things I can remove that I will not be using? any suggestions |
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| 16:48.14 | rockstar_ | k8to: Annh, hard to hear the tone of my voice when I say that. Joking. |
| 16:48.23 | valdyn | jair: did you run 'apt-get clean' yet? |
| 16:48.24 | jair | how can I check what is starting or running on the boot of my system, or inetd? |
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| 16:48.28 | rockstar_ | JordiGH : Guess I never really thought of that. |
| 16:48.34 | jair | valdyn: not actually ;) |
| 16:48.43 | jair | valdyn: doing it rightn now |
| 16:48.44 | blondie | jair: don't remove exim |
| 16:48.45 | k8to | rockstar_: yeah i figured it was a joke, i was trying to get it :) |
| 16:48.45 | jair | right\ |
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| 16:48.57 | valdyn | jair: exim doesnt use much space at all |
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| 16:49.07 | jair | blondie: it is using email for the users like root? |
| 16:49.10 | Eulex | rockstar_, do you really need to do that? udebs are just meant for the installer, they're not meant to be able to install well/cleanly on a full system |
| 16:49.16 | jair | or local user I think |
| 16:49.22 | k8to | jair: hmm, i used to have a recipe for listing packages by size |
| 16:49.33 | valdyn | jair: still to few free space after apt-get clean ? |
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| 16:50.01 | jair | valdyn: one sec |
| 16:50.04 | gambit | if i use debian amd64 do i have to make a chroot for 32bit apps? |
| 16:50.09 | rockstar_ | Eulex, if you ran amd64, you'd understand. Package maintenance seems to be lax. I think I might try and go sign on as a package maintainer just to help out. There are ALWAYS unmeant dependencies. |
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| 16:50.26 | valdyn | gambit: no, but using a chroot is a good option for running 32-bit apps |
| 16:50.37 | Eulex | rockstar_, hmm, ok. stable/testing/unstable? |
| 16:50.46 | k8to | these days i use 'feta package-sizes -s' but you probably don't have feta installed |
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| 16:50.57 | valdyn | rockstar_: i think you dont understand what you are talking about |
| 16:51.04 | rockstar_ | Well, I use etch, except when I need to borrow from sid, which is minimal |
| 16:51.10 | rockstar_ | valdyn, how so? |
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| 16:51.17 | valdyn | rockstar_: sid really works very smooth considering how its changing |
| 16:51.28 | k8to | jair: when trimming debian i just did a plodding review of the installed packages and yanked the ones i didn't need |
| 16:51.45 | valdyn | rockstar_: and etch 'breaks' for reasons that have nothing to do really with maintainers |
| 16:51.47 | gambit | valdyn: but it will run 32bit from the 64bit libs? |
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| 16:51.47 | k8to | jair: certainly 'clean' will wipe the package files from apt cache |
| 16:51.50 | rockstar_ | valdyn, there's an entry in apt for libdirectfb-0.9-24, but try and apt-cache show on it... |
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| 16:51.58 | norbs999 | Question, about lsof: may I also see what files HAVE been acessed? |
| 16:52.08 | valdyn | gambit: debian/amd64 supports 32-bit applications |
| 16:52.11 | beardy | k8to: And what effect did your "trimming" have? |
| 16:52.26 | valdyn | gambit: its just not as 'nice' as a chroot, dont ask me for details, ive always used a chroot |
| 16:52.37 | rockstar_ | valdyn, I'm not talking about the distro, I'm talking about apt sources. It may not be packages at all, just an apt source problem. Nevertheless, it's a problem. |
| 16:52.39 | gambit | valdyn: ty mate |
| 16:52.49 | p01n7 | Hello. Can anyone explain to me why i have two instances of gdm running? Something leads me to think it's for some fast user switching feature, but i wont be needing this feature. How do i turn this off? |
| 16:52.56 | k8to | beardy: uh, i got a boot image useful for our appliance into less than 100 megs with all the reasonable troubleshooting tools I could think of still included |
| 16:53.00 | valdyn | rockstar_: an apt-source? that might aswell be a repository that has nothing at all to do with debian |
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| 16:53.18 | k8to | beardy: it was a CD boot so 100 megs was plenty small |
| 16:53.30 | rockstar_ | valdyn, it's a repository straight off the debian mirror list |
| 16:53.41 | beardy | k8to: Ah, I see. Space then. Yeah, quite small, SystemRescueCD is around 100MB aswell. |
| 16:53.47 | Eulex | rockstar_, if you give us an error, we could at least attempt to help you, instead of just guessing. |
| 16:53.58 | valdyn | rockstar_: in sid? in etch? |
| 16:54.11 | rockstar_ | valdyn, right now sid. |
| 16:54.47 | valdyn | rockstar_: exists for me |
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| 16:55.01 | rockstar_ | valdyn, amd64? |
| 16:55.08 | valdyn | !info libdirectfb-0.9-24 |
| 16:55.10 | valdyn | rockstar_: yes |
| 16:55.14 | dpkg | libdirectfb-0.9-24: (frame buffer graphics library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.24-3 (sid), Packaged size: 752 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB |
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| 16:55.26 | Romano2K | hi everyone! how to check if a lib was detected by the system ? |
| 16:55.28 | k8to | i do get dependency "breakages" in testing sometimes, but they just prevent something from installing for a few days and then it resolves so who cares |
| 16:55.28 | valdyn | rockstar_: and it is precisly that one ^^^ |
| 16:55.29 | rockstar_ | valdyn, what mirror are you using? I'm using mirror.espri.arizona.edu |
| 16:55.45 | valdyn | rockstar_: ftp.de.debian.org |
| 16:55.50 | rockstar_ | k8to, yeah, I just don't want to wait until then. |
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| 16:56.18 | JordiGH | jair: I couldn't read if you got an apt (heh) response or not, but my personal solution to that problem is to simply browse very carefully through the packages (I like using synaptic for this) and figuring out exactly what it is that I don't want. Mark a few changes, commit any that don't seem to uninstall hundreds of megabytes more than what I asked for initially. I mostly don't touch libraries, though. And apt-get clean, of course. Run it once in a while. |
| 16:56.27 | rockstar_ | valdyn, I think I will move my mirrors yet again... (I had to do it a few days ago because the one that debian installed initially with netinst was now giving 404 errors. |
| 16:56.35 | cahoot | lastnode_: pervert |
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| 16:56.57 | lastnode_ | cahoot, yeah look at em hot geeks |
| 16:56.57 | rockstar_ | cahoot, that is hilarious! |
| 16:56.58 | k8to | i use http.us.debian.org |
| 16:57.03 | valdyn | rockstar_: such errors are bound to happen on sid |
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| 16:57.11 | JordiGH | ls |
| 16:57.18 | rockstar_ | lastnode_ : hot geeks? Isn't that like military intelligence? |
| 16:57.22 | k8to | and i am very very happy that apt pdiff functionality is now here |
| 16:57.30 | k8to | rockstar_: you have no idea |
| 16:57.30 | lastnode_ | rockstar_, i was being sardonic :) |
| 16:57.36 | valdyn | rockstar_: its unavoidable _unless_ each maintaner uploads a new package when a dependency changes instantly |
| 16:57.56 | valdyn | rockstar_: but in this case this seems to be just a broken mirror.. |
| 16:57.56 | rockstar_ | valdyn, yeah, I know the process. Just thought maybe I could help out. |
| 16:58.21 | rockstar_ | valdyn, appears that way. I'm the kind of person that sees a problem and asks how he can help fix it. |
| 16:58.27 | lastnode_ | are there any AMs here? |
| 16:58.31 | rockstar_ | Not sure how I can help that one though... |
| 16:58.44 | valdyn | rockstar_: that's what the bts is for, upload your fix for any error you fix |
| 16:58.49 | rockstar_ | lastnode_: AMs? |
| 16:58.57 | lastnode | Application Managers |
| 16:59.06 | valdyn | !bts |
| 16:59.06 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 16:59.17 | rockstar_ | valdyn, Yeah, I'm not on the bts yet, but I'm going there right now. |
| 16:59.52 | k8to | rockstar_: patches help. you can't actually install a fix without getting uploader rights and doing a non-maintainer upload, which can cause more trouble than fix if the maintainer would do it soon enough. but drawing attention to and pointing to what you think is the right solution in btw is great |
| 17:00.10 | k8to | err in btw is great |
| 17:00.12 | k8to | fuck |
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| 17:00.14 | k8to | bts |
| 17:00.19 | k8to | pardon my .. language |
| 17:00.22 | k8to | :( |
| 17:00.35 | rockstar_ | I found it quite humourous. |
| 17:01.00 | k8to | note, i am decidedly nonexpert |
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| 17:01.14 | rockstar_ | Guys, I appreciate it. Maybe now I'll find some meaning in life by contributing to the debian community instead of always taking... |
| 17:01.28 | k8to | thanks for the pointers |
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| 17:01.52 | rockstar_ | k8to, I figured I'd just point out the problem more than get in the way, unless a maintainer wants help. |
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| 17:03.43 | justme2 | hi guys ... im new user for linux |
| 17:04.10 | valdyn | !justask |
| 17:04.11 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 17:04.18 | valdyn | justme2: go ahead ask |
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| 17:05.13 | justme2 | can i find any informations here about arabian linux ?? |
| 17:05.21 | valdyn | !arabian |
| 17:05.24 | valdyn | !arab |
| 17:05.25 | dpkg | [arab] http://www.arabeyes.org, or #arabeyes |
| 17:05.36 | valdyn | justme2: arabian debian you mean? |
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| 17:05.52 | valdyn | justme2: linux is only a kernel, its not really localised |
| 17:05.55 | myren | how do i get 256 color uxterm? |
| 17:06.10 | myren | is xterm only compiled for 88 color or something? |
| 17:06.12 | justme2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.53 | elvirolo | i'm using debian sid, and I can't get the automount dialog the show up when i insert a removable media into my machine |
| 17:07.07 | hyksos | hi, someone knows how to place a icon to start a programm on icewm desktop? |
| 17:07.12 | riddley | I run a mirror for some folks at my job using Debian Multimirror. The mirror worked fine until the upgrade to apt 0.6.44 and now we all get this message: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.blah.blah_debian_dists_unstable_Release (1) I've done some googling and haven't had any luck, can someone point me to some useful docs? |
| 17:07.18 | valdyn | justme2: hmm, that seems to be a distro being remotely based on debian, but its an entirely different distro, so its off topic here, try google |
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| 17:08.01 | valdyn | justme2: we cant help you with it anyway, since it deviates from debian in unknown ways.. |
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| 17:08.07 | lastnode | what package is dhclient in? |
| 17:08.34 | valdyn | justme2: im sure though that debia does support arabic too |
| 17:08.39 | onetinsoldier | dhcp-client or something like that |
| 17:08.50 | valdyn | justme2: ( roughly as far as any linux distro could ) |
| 17:08.54 | onetinsoldier | yep.. think that's it |
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| 17:09.17 | Tourinho | Hello there... Can anyone tells me the name of the file that contains all binarys to execute on debian inicialization? googl tells me to use /etc/rc.d/rc.local but I dont have it, should I create? |
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| 17:09.58 | vulture | Tourinho: there is no one file.. if you want to do stuff on startup, start with /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 17:10.11 | De_Mon | hrmmm i upgraded vim to 7.0 and now backspace doesn't work |
| 17:10.31 | lastnode | De_Mon, #vim is a good place to ask :) |
| 17:10.46 | vulture | De_Mon: set backspace=indent,eol,start |
| 17:10.48 | justme2 | <valdyn> ok , i want to try it , is there any easy small one to try it , im using a dial-up conection , so its not easy to download large files |
| 17:10.54 | vulture | and what lastnode said |
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| 17:11.04 | Tourinho | vulture should I create a script to run the application? |
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| 17:12.01 | vulture | Tourinho: have you looked at /etc/init.d/skeleton yet? (and perhaps read man update-rc.d) - yes, script. |
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| 17:12.45 | De_Mon | vulture eurika! i was on the fence on whether debian changed the global vimrc or vim did something |
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| 17:13.04 | Tourinho | vulture: okey.. thansk |
| 17:13.11 | vulture | De_Mon: I don't know.. I've always had that line in my vimrc |
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| 17:13.43 | onetinsoldier | Tourinho: there is also documentation on the web on how-to make startup scripts if that's what your wanting to do... try http://www.tldp.org/ and/or do a google search on Linux from scratch |
| 17:13.51 | hyksos | which version of openoffice.org is in unstable? |
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| 17:14.12 | vulture | hyksos: check for yourself at packages.debion.org |
| 17:14.23 | jlaw | hey everybody |
| 17:14.45 | onetinsoldier | howfy |
| 17:14.52 | onetinsoldier | oops... howdy |
| 17:15.04 | Tourinho | onetinsoldier thank you too |
| 17:15.12 | onetinsoldier | you're welcome |
| 17:15.26 | hyksos | vulture :thx. 2.02 |
| 17:15.40 | Totoro | Hi, could somebody please help me with an installation issue I'm desperate about. I have an AMD64 with an Asus K8N4 Deluxe board (nForce 4) chipset, and a SATA drive attached. No debian installation (tested out all netinst's and businesscards, even the latest ones) found the HDD and it seems like nobody in the world shares this problem with me... |
| 17:16.46 | hyksos | Totoro :which problem? |
| 17:17.09 | onetinsoldier | his problem is that a debian installer cannot find his sata hard drive |
| 17:17.11 | Totoro | hyksos: hdd not found. |
| 17:17.24 | hyksos | Totoro :tried with knoppix? |
| 17:17.46 | Totoro | it doesn't show up in the partitioner, neither in /proc/partitions nor /proc/devices |
| 17:18.10 | De_Mon | vulture hmm, i think this has more to do with them changing the behavior of 'vi' vs 'vim', since debian.vim isn't executed when running 'vi' any more |
| 17:18.15 | hyksos | Totoro :have you booted knoppix and then theres no sata-drive? |
| 17:18.15 | Totoro | hyksos: Debian testing netinst. Tried the latest builds too. |
| 17:18.31 | vulture | De_Mon: depends how you set the vim alternative in update-alternatives |
| 17:18.56 | vulture | if you've installed another vi, it might have stolen the vi alias |
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| 17:19.41 | De_Mon | when you run 'vi' in unstable it starts vim with vi compatability mode and none of the fancy debian.vim settings |
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| 17:19.54 | vulture | oh, right. |
| 17:20.04 | Totoro | hyksos: what's even more surprising is that an aged Kubuntu 5 installation worked without problems. |
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| 17:20.50 | myren | how do i get xterm to identify as xterm-256color in TERM |
| 17:20.55 | De_Mon | now, do force myself to start typing 'vim' instead of 'vi' or change the default behavior |
| 17:20.56 | myren | which it is |
| 17:20.58 | De_Mon | hrmmm.... |
| 17:21.00 | hyksos | Totoro :thats good for the first point, try to look at the files that makes these distributions able to use your sata-hd, then copy or insert it in your distro |
| 17:21.03 | felix_ | Totoro, have you checked http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today ? |
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| 17:21.30 | myren | De_Mon: you just used more characters than it would've taken to type ln -fs /usr/bin/vim /etc/alternatives/vi |
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| 17:22.02 | Totoro | felix_: URL not found. |
| 17:22.15 | De_Mon | myren but is that REALLY what I want to do? I'm conflicted :) |
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| 17:22.38 | felix_ | Tolimar, same for me, grr, connection refused, i suspect this is a temporary problem only |
| 17:22.40 | Totoro | hyksos: trouble is that everything is inserted (sata_nv modules and all) and should work, but it doesn't... |
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| 17:22.51 | myren | it is handly to start using vim; go on a unix based system and its like ARG, wtf is up with this gimp vim... oh, its just vi |
| 17:23.05 | myren | otoh i save myself much agony by just aliasing it up |
| 17:23.12 | hyksos | Totoro :theres sometimes more than only modules, some config files or anything else |
| 17:23.14 | felix_ | wiki.debian.org does not work :-( |
| 17:23.14 | Tolimar | felix_: s/Tolimar/Totoro/ |
| 17:23.52 | Totoro | hyksos: I used the standard netinst image from debian.org and I don't have a working Linux system right now to try and fix the image. |
| 17:23.57 | felix_ | Tolimar, yes, sorry |
| 17:24.03 | hyksos | Totoro :why? |
| 17:24.11 | Tolimar | No problem ;) |
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| 17:24.41 | hyksos | Totoro :you got no shell acess ? |
| 17:24.45 | Totoro | hyksos: because I simply don't have a working system and I don't have the time to go around and try everything out - it's not my machine and I need to get the thing done quick. |
| 17:24.47 | jlaw | Totoro, do you have another hd, you could use for install and compilation of a new kernel? |
| 17:24.58 | Totoro | hyksos: I've only got a WinXP on this machine working right now. |
| 17:25.05 | hyksos | Totoro :then try to install opensuse or fedora core 5 |
| 17:25.19 | jlaw | Totoro, that's the way i just fixed a problem with a scsi raid controller |
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| 17:25.54 | Totoro | hyksos: I was hoping I could use Debian, because that's the system I've been using most. |
| 17:26.23 | jlaw | Totoro: noticed what i said? |
| 17:26.43 | Totoro | jlaw: what's bugging me is that it worked with an old Kubuntu 5, but it doesn't with a brand new Debian. wtf? |
| 17:26.53 | hyksos | Totoro :if you using it most ,and got no fun to resolve the problem, thats curious, but if no interrest to solve then try windows,opensuse,fedora,kubuntu or anything else which makes no noise |
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| 17:27.33 | mathieup | I need to set up the path to use java, How I can do that? |
| 17:27.43 | felix_ | Totoro, http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:fMQknEqe0uMJ:wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ+DebianInstaller+sata+site:wiki.debian.org&hl=de&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
| 17:27.59 | jlaw | Totoro: obviously the needed fundtions are not in the precompiled kernel ... so take another hd if you have to install and compile a new kernel, copy all data to the then available drive and fix grub ... then it works |
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| 17:28.15 | dos000 | anyone regexp gurus ? "@^\d+\([ \t]*,[ \t]*\d+\)*@" to match decimals separated by comas |
| 17:28.20 | mathieup | for my konqueror |
| 17:29.17 | onetinsoldier | mathieup: export "JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre" |
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| 17:30.03 | Totoro | jlaw: they are, that's what's weird. The modules required for support are in there and they worked just fine on Kubuntu (with should be a direct derivate of Debian). |
| 17:30.21 | mathieup | thanks onetinsoldier |
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| 17:30.42 | onetinsoldier | mathieup: you can put that in your .bashrc file (without the use of quotes) to have it automatically set when you login |
| 17:30.50 | onetinsoldier | mathieup: your welcome |
| 17:30.54 | mathieup | thanks |
| 17:31.08 | wye | i have deleted some files which i need to recover, do you know some app to get it? |
| 17:31.14 | Totoro | jlaw: thanks, I'll try to somehow cope with it. |
| 17:31.28 | stew | wye: which filesystem? |
| 17:31.33 | wye | ext3 |
| 17:31.45 | jlaw | Totoro: maybe that is the problem, that they are modules ... you have to load modules from the hard discs ... but if some functions needed to access the hd are modules, that becomes a bit difficult !-) |
| 17:32.10 | stew | wye: generally you can't. the best you can do is to grep the actual /dev to try to find bits, but there is no undelete, ext3 actually zeros out the inodes when you delete |
| 17:32.18 | De_Mon | myren it appears I'll either have to link vimrc to virc or alias vi='vim' with these changes |
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| 17:32.50 | wye | stew, wow it seems to be a hard work |
| 17:33.01 | felix_ | jlaw, too late :-( |
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| 17:33.11 | jlaw | what ever |
| 17:33.34 | felix_ | jlaw, he can stick with winxp |
| 17:33.54 | wye | stew, thanks anyway mate ;) |
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| 17:34.25 | Nought | hi :) but :( are the fonts in openoffice.org back in the dark ages again? Using Etch here and ant-aliasing in OOo doesn't look the same as in other KDE software...any tips? |
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| 17:34.42 | jlaw | felix_, ... hmm ... sounds like: "he can continue to cut his limbs" ^^ |
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| 17:36.01 | coax | what does t mean in a permission statement like this -> drwx-wx-wt |
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| 17:36.59 | surlaw-away | hey =) anyone can help me configure my wifi on debian? the drivers are working and the scan retrun my wifi network but i still can't connect to the internet i dont knwo whats' worng :p any help would be really appreciated ^^ |
| 17:37.05 | jlaw | coax: directory read write execute ... |
| 17:37.18 | amphi | coax: sticky bit |
| 17:37.25 | valdyn | surlaw-away: man interfaces |
| 17:37.38 | jlaw | coax: 1. rwx owner, 2. group, 3. everybuddy |
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| 17:38.15 | Nought | why isn't OOo using KDE fonts? surlaw> dunno wifi.. |
| 17:38.17 | coax | i know, but what does the 't' mean |
| 17:38.18 | amphi | coax: man chmod explains the function of the sticky bit |
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| 17:38.29 | stew | !wikifaq coax Permissions |
| 17:38.29 | dpkg | coax: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:38.38 | korhojoa | Hiya. I'm royally fucked, i get a nice error saying: 'Segmentation fault 5%' whenever i try to do anything package related with apt-get. what can i do? |
| 17:38.40 | valdyn | Nought: apt-cache search openoffice kde ? |
| 17:39.02 | amphi | !dynamic mmap |
| 17:39.02 | dpkg | i guess dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
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| 17:39.15 | jlaw | !tell stew -about tell |
| 17:39.21 | Nought | got openoffice-kde ;) |
| 17:39.26 | amphi | korhojoa: ^^^ might be of use to you |
| 17:39.39 | korhojoa | amphi: i didn't get me one fo those errors |
| 17:39.59 | amphi | korhojoa: oh, ok |
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| 17:40.12 | surlaw-away | valdyn: il alrdy configure that file with ly netwok infos, but its not working, i spend the day on it and asked around irc chanels and forums but still can't get it working :/ |
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| 17:40.18 | korhojoa | what i did, was that when upgrading the kernel, i kicked the hd by mistake, and made it somehow spin down and spin back up again (joined by a nice 'ide0 - reset' |
| 17:40.26 | korhojoa | -message on the screen) |
| 17:40.38 | valdyn | surlaw-away: ok , step by step ( i have only 10 minutes though ) |
| 17:40.55 | valdyn | surlaw-away: run 'iwconfig <iface>' and paste the output ( not here ) |
| 17:40.57 | surlaw-away | it'll be easier in pm no ? |
| 17:41.18 | valdyn | surlaw-away: no that would be bad for you, use pastebin.com or somesuch |
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| 17:41.34 | korhojoa | !graycat |
| 17:41.36 | RubenGA | Hi all |
| 17:41.44 | korhojoa | hm. |
| 17:42.01 | Eulex | !greycat |
| 17:42.08 | valdyn | !seen greycat |
| 17:42.08 | surlaw-away | valdyn ok |
| 17:42.08 | dpkg | greycat is currently on #debian-bots (4h 36m 35s) |
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| 17:42.40 | Shadowcat | I always knew greycat was a bot |
| 17:42.59 | jlaw | !seen god |
| 17:42.59 | dpkg | god <i=SLLs_esL@201008066220.user.veloxzone.com.br> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 146d 54m 22s ago, saying: 'is it true that debian can be used for web servers??'. |
| 17:43.02 | valdyn | korhojoa: restore from backup after you used a livecd to run badblocks on your disk |
| 17:43.19 | jlaw | i knew i would find him in the net ... and they said i was crazy |
| 17:43.22 | valdyn | korhojoa: i seriously doubt that disk isnt damaged though, somehow |
| 17:43.51 | surlaw-away | valdyn: well anyway i can't paste you the exact result, since im on another pc it'll take me the 10 minutes to move from 1 to another comp and copy it lol maybe some other day if u have more time =) |
| 17:44.01 | korhojoa | valdyn: you sure that there isn't some way to do badblocks without a livecd |
| 17:44.05 | cire | I have installed isdnlog correctly, so that calls are logged in /var/lib/isdn/calls. Now I'd like to have a windows client, which shows me incoming calls immediately. Is there one? Or woulkd you use another system instead of isdnlog? I just want my windows machines to be informed about incoming calls. |
| 17:44.13 | korhojoa | since this computer really doesn't do boot from ethernet or cd, it's kinda hard. |
| 17:44.26 | valdyn | korhojoa: you just need all partitions on that disk not be mounted rw |
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| 17:44.43 | korhojoa | valdyn: oh, well that's going to be hard aswell. |
| 17:44.48 | korhojoa | it's the only disk :( |
| 17:44.56 | valdyn | korhojoa: suppose you can do that in debians 'rescue mode' or whatever its called |
| 17:45.08 | korhojoa | any chance with ramdisks, etc? (i've only got like 32mb of ram anyway :D) |
| 17:45.17 | beardy | valdyn: Can he mount it readonly and chroot? And run what he needs? |
| 17:45.20 | valdyn | korhojoa: uh recovery mode |
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| 17:45.21 | jlaw | valdyn: recovery mode !-) |
| 17:45.26 | korhojoa | Ok |
| 17:45.49 | valdyn | beardy: doesnt need a chroot |
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| 17:46.34 | beardy | valdyn: It doesn't? I mean if he's booting a floppy. Without the necessary binaries on. |
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| 17:46.59 | valdyn | beardy: his debian might have the necessary binaries already |
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| 17:47.20 | valdyn | beardy: badblocks runs fine from a ro filesyste |
| 17:47.24 | korhojoa | valdyn: i did a netinstall, does it by default include what i need? |
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| 17:47.36 | valdyn | korhojoa: i dont know |
| 17:47.44 | valdyn | korhojoa: i suppose it does, but i dont know |
| 17:47.59 | valdyn | korhojoa: dpkg -l badblocks |
| 17:48.04 | beardy | valdyn: Yeah, but is there a "recovery mode" configured in the bootloaders by default? |
| 17:48.13 | valdyn | beardy: yeap |
| 17:48.18 | beardy | valdyn: Ok. |
| 17:48.35 | korhojoa | no packages found matching badblocks :( |
| 17:48.41 | korhojoa | ah well, i got apt-get working again |
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| 17:48.46 | korhojoa | i cleared the cache directory |
| 17:48.56 | korhojoa | so now i'm just gonna get badblocks, and see if i can get it to run |
| 17:49.01 | valdyn | korhojoa: badblocks is just a dedicated tool, if dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null fails, then your disk is defenitely broken.. |
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| 17:49.24 | valdyn | korhojoa: so you can just use dd too, and that will work aswell with a disk that has mounted filesystems |
| 17:49.32 | korhojoa | ok |
| 17:49.37 | korhojoa | but that'll seemingly take forever |
| 17:49.47 | valdyn | korhojoa: no not really |
| 17:49.52 | korhojoa | well |
| 17:50.05 | korhojoa | considering the amazing amount of processing power i have here, it will |
| 17:50.09 | valdyn | korhojoa: there's no other way to test a disk except by using it |
| 17:50.13 | korhojoa | yeah |
| 17:50.17 | korhojoa | ah well |
| 17:50.35 | korhojoa | i'll try it later, when i retire to sleep... |
| 17:50.41 | korhojoa | thanks for the help though |
| 17:50.59 | korhojoa | now another question, anyone got any idea on how to get utf-8 support in irssi on sarge? |
| 17:51.22 | valdyn | korhojoa: irssi supports utf-8 |
| 17:51.31 | korhojoa | not 0.8.9 |
| 17:51.37 | valdyn | korhojoa: sure it does |
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| 17:51.52 | korhojoa | alrighty, news to me, how do i enable it? |
| 17:51.56 | valdyn | korhojoa: its probably your terminal that does not |
| 17:51.58 | korhojoa | or, rather, switch to using it |
| 17:52.01 | valdyn | !utf8 |
| 17:52.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, utf8 is how the Perl people spell UTF-8. See also <UTF-8>. |
| 17:52.03 | valdyn | !utf-8 |
| 17:52.03 | dpkg | i guess utf-8 is Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international characterset range of Unicode. See bug #214254 and http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html, or And try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). Read /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian to fix garbled man ... |
| 17:52.28 | kugg | kosola: test running irssi in xteran and ctrl + rightcklick and press utf8. korhojoa |
| 17:52.59 | korhojoa | i'm just running this computer without any x server |
| 17:53.31 | korhojoa | i mean, this is a default netinstall, with only the web server and sql server package selections. so i'm guessing i don't have xteran, yes? |
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| 17:54.40 | hazard2 | anyone have any experience with the bootcd package? |
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| 17:54.48 | korhojoa | hazard2: it works :P |
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| 17:55.03 | Eulex | korhojoa, http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/text-console-unicode.html |
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| 17:55.20 | hazard2 | ...not if the machine that made the image has a floppydrive, and the one that's trying to boot it does not |
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| 17:56.13 | hazard2 | it seems to just be trying to access the floppy drive, even though it does not exsist, but t |
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| 17:56.26 | beardy | korhojoa: "/help recode" but no, not in 0.8.9, it's in 0.8.10 |
| 17:56.26 | k-god | hazard2: talking about grub? |
| 17:56.37 | hazard2 | no, bootcd |
| 17:56.43 | hazard2 | the cd it makes wants a floppy drive |
| 17:56.45 | k-god | hazard2: NM then. |
| 17:56.53 | hazard2 | the problem is, the machines I have don't have them |
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| 17:59.03 | hazard2 | nope, still I/O errors, not matter what I do... |
| 17:59.16 | korhojoa | beardy: any idea on how to get 0.8.10 on sarge? |
| 17:59.26 | beardy | !backport |
| 17:59.26 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> Beware that if you add backports.org to your sources.list, you will get *all* backports when you upgrade. Read the instructions on how to only get specific backports. |
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| 17:59.33 | beardy | perhaps |
| 17:59.34 | RvGaTe | !seen ic3man05 |
| 17:59.34 | dpkg | ic3man05 is currently on #debian (12h 10m 21s). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 10h 16m 41s |
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| 18:00.43 | hazard2 | can you abort trying to load a kernel module at boot time? |
| 18:00.56 | beardy | hazard2: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:01.17 | hazard2 | ?????????? |
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| 18:01.44 | hazard2 | hmmm..... |
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| 18:01.54 | hazard2 | that would be good...if I wanted to do so permanantly, which I don't. |
| 18:01.58 | aimtrainer | hi! my f-keys dont work seperately, just in combination (for example ctrl+F2 for switching desktops works but F2 does not). It's not about my keyboard profile or any hotkey settings. It's also not in certain programs but globally. When I press F1 to F12 in xev I get this: http://pastebin.com/746926 I actually dont really know what this is, but I think it's strange that every F-keys xev output looks the same. I hope somebody can and wa |
| 18:01.58 | aimtrainer | nts to help me. I am running kanotix but in #kanotix noone could help me and I thaught this could be a non-distribution based problem. thanks for reading :) |
| 18:02.01 | hazard2 | not to mention that I can't. |
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| 18:02.51 | korhojoa | aimtrainer: can't open the page now, but do you use some kind of keyboard that has a f-lock button? |
| 18:02.56 | beardy | hazard2: Not that I know, but you can either blacklist it, or for some, append a string to the kernel to skip loading it, or to turn off the supprt for it. Read the the Documentation directory of the linux kernel source tree. |
| 18:03.25 | beardy | s/supprt for it/support for that hardware/ |
| 18:03.30 | aimtrainer | korhojoa yea, but it doesnt matter if I activate them or not |
| 18:03.38 | korhojoa | ah |
| 18:03.45 | korhojoa | what keyboard is it? |
| 18:03.54 | aimtrainer | korhojoa and strange is that in combination they do work if the fkeys are activated |
| 18:04.08 | aimtrainer | korhojoa logitech elite |
| 18:04.12 | korhojoa | ok |
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| 18:04.35 | hazard2 | hmmm... |
| 18:04.38 | korhojoa | well, i have no idea why it does that. what i do know though, is that you could do a custom keymap to make it work. what i don't know, is how to do that |
| 18:04.43 | beardy | hazard2: what module? |
| 18:04.46 | hazard2 | it seems holding control and pounding the number pad did something |
| 18:05.05 | hazard2 | its not so much a module as it is part of bootcd's startup script |
| 18:05.11 | beardy | `heh |
| 18:05.16 | aimtrainer | korhojoa ^^ thanks that is a start - now I at least can google for how to do that .. or ask people :) |
| 18:05.22 | hazard2 | it looks for a floppy, on my machines with no floppy this becomes a problem |
| 18:05.25 | jlaw | !tell aimtrainer -about keymap |
| 18:05.26 | beardy | well, say so then.. |
| 18:05.42 | beardy | hazard2: edit the script then |
| 18:05.54 | korhojoa | i had a ms wireless media keyboard, and it always output some random scancode, for no apparent reason, at a random interval. it also added some goo to every keypress if i didn't edit the keymap. some happy dude helped me with it earlier. don't know how to do it anymore though :P |
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| 18:07.45 | aesxa | I get 404 errors when I apt-get update for repository at http://debian.csail.mit.edu |
| 18:07.51 | aesxa | and apt-setup doesn't work : ( |
| 18:08.00 | aesxa | says command not found |
| 18:08.12 | beardy | aesxa: as root? |
| 18:08.24 | aesxa | yeah |
| 18:09.10 | stew | aesxa: put your sources.list into a pastebin |
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| 18:09.41 | fbn | how can I use vim to insert a string at the beginning of every line? |
| 18:09.56 | GNULinux | any other blogging engine available for debian/apache beside e2evolution? |
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| 18:10.26 | stew | fbn: :%s/^/a string/ |
| 18:10.30 | sin | fbn: its regular expresion and it would be :%s/^/string you want/ |
| 18:10.35 | jlaw | stew: the sources.list is irrelevant for this error |
| 18:10.59 | aesxa | http://pastebin.com/747243 |
| 18:11.06 | fbn | stew: cool thanks! what would be the same for the end of every line? |
| 18:11.08 | fbn | sin: thanks! |
| 18:11.24 | sin | it would be :%s/$/striing/ for the end |
| 18:11.30 | jlaw | aesxa: try: apt-get install apt --fix-missing |
| 18:11.38 | fbn | sin: thanks a lot :) |
| 18:11.46 | sin | ^=first character $=last |
| 18:11.52 | stew | aesxa: amd64 is now in the main repository, so just use: deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian main contrib non-free |
| 18:11.57 | aesxa | jlaw "apt is already the newest version" |
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| 18:12.08 | aesxa | stew, thank you, I'll try that |
| 18:12.08 | stew | jlaw: no, it wasn't, he's getting a 404 on update becuase he's using a no longer maintained repository |
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| 18:12.26 | jlaw | stew: oh, k |
| 18:13.00 | jlaw | stew: you meant that ... i thought you were searching the reason for not finding apt-setup |
| 18:13.10 | aesxa | stew, yes that fixes it, thank you. : ) |
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| 18:13.38 | aesxa | but now I have 458 not upgraded --- it's been maybe a week since I upgraded last ... is it trying to put to Sarge? |
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| 18:13.51 | aesxa | I still have testing specified. |
| 18:14.17 | Objologist | i want to figure which package (if any) contains the XF86Config-4 file. is there a way to do that? |
| 18:15.28 | aesxa | unless there was some giant change in the last week this is weird. Maybe not though, since only 89.1 additional kb will be used? |
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| 18:16.40 | aesxa | well synaptic has all higher version numbers so I guess this is right. Thanks guys. : ) |
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| 18:20.10 | yggdrasil | how do i use tar to untar a .tar.gz file ? |
| 18:20.18 | yggdrasil | tar -xvf |
| 18:20.22 | RichiH | tar xzf foo.tar.gz |
| 18:20.33 | RichiH | xzvf works, too |
| 18:21.06 | yggdrasil | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
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| 18:21.20 | yggdrasil | i jsut wnan untar this file ... |
| 18:21.21 | RichiH | then it's not .gz |
| 18:21.25 | yggdrasil | not frustrate the hell out of me |
| 18:21.31 | RichiH | file yourfile.gz |
| 18:22.00 | yggdrasil | yea |
| 18:22.01 | yggdrasil | ok |
| 18:22.06 | riot | yggdrasil: try without z or with j instead..maybe someone named it wrong.. and try "file foo.tar.gz" |
| 18:22.18 | yggdrasil | musta been something wierd with wget from the site |
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| 18:23.18 | yggdrasil | ill just do it apt-get source maybe that will be better. thanks for the help |
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| 18:23.22 | yggdrasil | thought i was going crazy |
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| 18:28.37 | yggdrasil | what about just a .diff.gz file ? |
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| 18:29.25 | stew | yggdrasil: is it really a .tar.gz and not a tar.bz2? |
| 18:29.29 | Gathond | yggdrasil: gunzip it, then apply it to whatever its a diff off |
| 18:29.31 | nagual | good evening. we are a few of the chanops in #debian@efnet that are going to work together a document which would remind a lot of the fbsd handbook/openbsd faq, but less advanced / comprehensive. If you are serious in contributing, msg me your email, and ill ad you to the mailinglist. |
| 18:29.37 | stew | oops, i was scrolled back |
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| 18:29.42 | yggdrasil | gathound im just trying to ungzip |
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| 18:30.36 | yggdrasil | tar -xvf foo.diff.gz ? |
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| 18:31.24 | stew | yggdrasil: gunzip foo.diff.gz |
| 18:31.25 | Gathond | yggdrasil: no, its not a tar file, just use gunzip on it |
| 18:31.30 | yggdrasil | yea |
| 18:31.35 | yggdrasil | im working on it :( |
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| 18:31.52 | Gathond | tar aint usable on non tar files |
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| 18:32.39 | stew | yggdrasil: there is also a "unp" package which provides a unp function that just "does the right thing" for most of these archive formats if you have trouble remembering this stuff |
| 18:32.47 | yggdrasil | i got it guys ! |
| 18:32.49 | yggdrasil | thanks |
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| 18:32.56 | yggdrasil | up huh hmm intersting |
| 18:33.18 | yggdrasil | now to patch this its ? patch -p0 ../xine-lib_1.1.1-1.1.diff |
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| 18:33.42 | Gathond | yggdrasil: depends upon context and the content of the patch file |
| 18:33.49 | yggdrasil | hmmmmm |
| 18:33.52 | yggdrasil | ok thanks guys |
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| 18:33.59 | Gathond | although I think it has to be patch -p0 < ../whatever |
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| 18:34.28 | Gathond | but -p0 might be wrong depending on your position in the filesystem and the content of the diff file |
| 18:35.00 | yggdrasil | yea i did p1 and it worked |
| 18:35.10 | stew | yggdrasil: and if all that you are doing with the .diff.gz is running it through patch, you could have just run: "zcat ../blah.diff.gz | patch -p0" it's generally wise to run patch --dry-run first to see if the patch applies cleanly |
| 18:35.13 | yggdrasil | so now i jsut have to find my other patches and do it. such a hassle |
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| 18:35.23 | yggdrasil | stew i know ;( |
| 18:35.24 | yggdrasil | haha |
| 18:35.37 | yggdrasil | it did work but i have some other stuff i gotta patch up so ill dmake sure i do iton those |
| 18:35.40 | yggdrasil | thansk |
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| 18:41.54 | yggdrasil | stew what is the signifcance of the < in the patch cmd ? |
| 18:42.32 | Gathond | yggdrasil: reading that filename on the right and sending it to the stdin of the command on the left |
| 18:42.41 | yggdrasil | i see |
| 18:42.45 | yggdrasil | and if i were to > it ? |
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| 18:43.12 | stew | yggdrasil: > would mean overwrite the file with the output of the patch command |
| 18:43.14 | Gathond | yggdrasil: you would write the output of the command to a new empty file (if it exists its truncated) |
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| 18:43.36 | yggdrasil | oh isee |
| 18:43.38 | yggdrasil | crazy |
| 18:43.40 | yggdrasil | thanks |
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| 18:44.09 | korhojoa | ! |
| 18:44.15 | korhojoa | holy crap, for real? :D |
| 18:44.57 | blondie | apt is only a piece of software :| |
| 18:46.13 | korhojoa | no (insert vulgar word for excrement)? |
| 18:46.50 | blondie | apt: are you a bot? |
| 18:47.03 | korhojoa | apt who are you? |
| 18:47.06 | apt | korhojoa: what are you talking about? |
| 18:47.17 | korhojoa | apt you're a bot, right? |
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| 18:48.11 | stoned | lol |
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| 18:50.29 | korhojoa | !lick stoned |
| 18:50.34 | korhojoa | Haha |
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| 18:53.19 | yggdrasil | to do a make install do i need to use sudo ? |
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| 18:53.21 | hazard2 | heh... |
| 18:53.36 | hazard2 | generally yes, mr super zerg overlord. |
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| 18:53.42 | yggdrasil | yar |
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| 18:54.10 | hazard2 | unless you own the install directory (which means its likely not in $PATH by default) |
| 18:54.13 | yggdrasil | to use serg do i hae tosudo ? |
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| 18:54.19 | yggdrasil | yea cool jsut checking |
| 18:54.38 | yggdrasil | apt-get has tainted me |
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| 18:54.44 | maxxle | I've written a script that mounts my mp3-player (USB, VFAT). In this script i use the mount-command. I set the sticky bit to my script. But the script tells me that the mount-command only can be run by root. What can I do? I don't want to set 'mount' sticky. |
| 18:54.46 | hazard2 | how so? |
| 18:55.15 | jair | valdyn: thank you very much, the apt-get clean just gave me like 200MB :) |
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| 18:55.47 | jair | valdyn: have you heard about having Unix/linux machines authenticating using active Directory and LDAP? |
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| 18:56.21 | yggdrasil | ive haerd of it but never done it |
| 18:56.23 | yggdrasil | it does work.. |
| 18:56.43 | hazard2 | what exactly does apt-get clean delete? |
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| 18:57.02 | kugg | /var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb |
| 18:57.06 | yggdrasil | i think ti cleans up all the .deb files |
| 18:57.12 | kugg | as far as i know |
| 18:57.14 | maxxle | kugg: I think this isn't the truth |
| 18:57.27 | hazard2 | but what about the bzip files? |
| 18:57.39 | maxxle | I think only old files get deleted. |
| 18:57.41 | hazard2 | the files it actually downloads? Or am I insane? |
| 18:58.30 | yggdrasil | usualy it dls deb files |
| 18:58.39 | hazard2 | that seems silly. |
| 18:58.51 | yggdrasil | do a sudo updatedb. then locate *.deb and *.bzip |
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| 18:58.58 | fartmastr | hello. |
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| 19:00.14 | softwork | hello, how i start nvidia_agp module? |
| 19:00.17 | fartmastr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.20 | fartmastr | awesome. |
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| 19:01.04 | fartmastr | i have a very simple question. can i mix and match stable and unstable packages? |
| 19:01.06 | softwork | i have a board it chipset nforce3 and ati, i dont have 3d aceleration, i need modules agpgart, nvidia_agp and fglrx???????? |
| 19:01.17 | maxxle | fartmastr: don't do it |
| 19:01.27 | softwork | ati graphic |
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| 19:01.44 | fartmastr | maxxle, i hear ubuntu keeps latest gnome and xorg |
| 19:01.52 | fartmastr | will that work for me? |
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| 19:02.06 | kugg | fartmastr: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html |
| 19:02.06 | maxxle | fartmastr: You will install ubuntu packages to your debian/stable box? |
| 19:02.11 | fartmastr | i don't understand what stops me from installing unstable packages |
| 19:02.31 | fartmastr | i understand that there is a stable branch and an unstable branch. why can't you mix them? |
| 19:02.34 | morten | i'm quite inexperienced with scheduling stuff with cron, but i found a script for the specific thing i wanted to do. is there any way i can test the script? |
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| 19:03.21 | maxxle | fartmastr: Because stable is stable and unstable means packages that depend on other unstable packages ... and this will run you in trouble |
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| 19:03.59 | fartmastr | i thought as much, so what happens when i update all the dependancies to unstable versions? |
| 19:04.14 | blondie | fartmastr: basically you'll be running unstable ;) |
| 19:04.20 | morten | fartmastr - your nice stable box suddenly goes unstable |
| 19:04.22 | fartmastr | but only for some things |
| 19:04.37 | morten | well, only for the things you download |
| 19:04.46 | morten | which could be just one or two things, or a lot. |
| 19:05.05 | morten | and then bad things happen (tm) |
| 19:05.15 | maxxle | if he updates gnome he gets A LOT new packages i think (dependencies) |
| 19:05.17 | fartmastr | so, are there any drawbacks to using xfree86 |
| 19:05.26 | fartmastr | maxxle, i dont plan on using gnome, at all |
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| 19:05.59 | softwork | how i start nvidia_agp module? |
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| 19:06.03 | softwork | how i install? |
| 19:06.14 | morten | only drawback to xfree86 that i can think of is that xorg is better. |
| 19:06.23 | stoned | modprobe nvidia ?> |
| 19:06.25 | fartmastr | morten, oh, in what way |
| 19:06.41 | stoned | or whatever module name, modprobe |
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| 19:07.05 | softwork | in agpgart |
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| 19:07.37 | cyzie | hello anyone know what software can i use to create flash file? |
| 19:07.44 | morten | google it, fartmastr. other people know more about it than me. i just know that xorg worked better for me than xfree86 did. |
| 19:07.47 | softwork | in gpgart i need nvidia_agp module to 3d aceleration in my ati? |
| 19:07.48 | vigosan | Macromedia Flash |
| 19:07.50 | vigosan | ;) |
| 19:07.57 | fartmastr | i'm trying to find out exactly how different debian is going to be, from gentoo |
| 19:08.22 | yggdrasil | doesn anyone knwo the ssh cmd to send a keepalive pkt every 60 seconds iused to do it but cant remember.. i read the manpage but doesnt seem to work... help :( |
| 19:08.24 | fartmastr | i have experience with gentoo and i'm trying to figure out how the packages work differently. in gentoo you can install unstable versions if you unhide them |
| 19:08.44 | morten | i'm looking to test a cron job. is there some way to execute a cron script at will? |
| 19:08.49 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:08.49 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 19:09.24 | stoned | tarzeau, do you use popcon |
| 19:09.28 | blondie | yggdrasil: -o TCPKeepAlive ? |
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| 19:09.56 | yggdrasil | well i used to do something that you could specify seconds |
| 19:09.57 | razor_edge | hi! Anyone could help me installing runit? |
| 19:10.03 | yggdrasil | -otcpkeepalive is just yes or no ... |
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| 19:12.53 | VolVE | hey all, quick question: for those people running raid arrays, when you add a new disk to the array and you expand it, how are you then utilizing the newly available space? Are you creating a new volume and then adding that with LVM to your system, or are you extending the current volume, or are their other options? I want to use XFS but am having trouble finding a reliable solution to extend a partition on a raid array after adding a disk. |
| 19:13.10 | stoned | dman is p |
| 19:13.16 | stoned | damn isp* |
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| 19:13.56 | RvGaTe | !seen ic3man05 |
| 19:13.56 | dpkg | ic3man05 is currently on #debian (13h 24m 42s). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 11h 31m 2s |
| 19:14.31 | razor_edge | hi! Anyone could help me installing runit? |
| 19:15.14 | Ronin | razor_edge: apt-get install perhaps |
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| 19:16.01 | razor_edge | Ronin: not so easy, when i told the kernel to use runit instead of init the system doesnt boot |
| 19:16.27 | morten | is there some way to execute a cron script at will, to see if it works as it should? |
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| 19:16.52 | dman | evenin' i upgraded from woody to sarge. im still using the 2.2.20 kernel though. now i want to use lm-sensors, that can only be used as a module for this kernel. does anyone have any pointers as to what best to do (upgrade kernel, use modules...)? my system as _limited_ resources.. a P1 166mhz with 40MB ram |
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| 19:17.01 | dman | stoned, ? |
| 19:17.19 | robin_z | bah .. when my gnome session started up, it mentioned something about some apps crashing .. and now I dont have the desktop chooser thing on the bottom right, nor any clicky tabs on the lower toolbar for my various xterms and stuff I have open righ tnow ... |
| 19:17.21 | stoned | dman, ? |
| 19:17.39 | Ronin | robin_z: restart gnome |
| 19:17.59 | Ronin | this time pay attention to the msgs though :) |
| 19:18.23 | robin_z | Ronin, have done, several times .. infact rebooted the whole machine ... |
| 19:18.36 | thingfish | applying for jobs is so much fun. |
| 19:19.02 | robin_z | Ronin, and "apt-get install perhaps" doesnt work either ;) |
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| 19:19.45 | robin_z | thingfish, dont do it .. being employed is so 1990s! |
| 19:20.05 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 19:20.46 | Ronin | robin_z: uh huh |
| 19:21.16 | robin_z | Ronin, so what are those things like the desktop chooser? toobars? |
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| 19:21.31 | Wurstbrot | hi |
| 19:21.42 | Ronin | robin_z: not running gnome so its from memory but isnt it called panel or some such? |
| 19:21.55 | robin_z | could be ... rings a bell |
| 19:22.19 | thingfish | gnome-panel iirc |
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| 19:23.07 | Wurstbrot | major problem: as soon as i run airodump and aireplay at the same time, my system freezes completly, only way out is hard reset |
| 19:23.31 | dman | evenin' i upgraded from woody to sarge. im still using the 2.2.20 kernel though. now i want to use lm-sensors, that can only be used as a module for this kernel. does anyone have any pointers as to what best to do (upgrade kernel, use modules...)? my system as _limited_ resources.. a P1 166mhz with 40MB ram |
| 19:23.48 | confuzed | could someone please help me resolve a suspected dns issue in private chat? |
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| 19:24.16 | Wurstbrot | sometimes kernel gets an nmi warning out before he freezes, saying my ram modules are probably damaged |
| 19:24.29 | Wurstbrot | i ran memtest for like 8h with no errors |
| 19:24.58 | Wurstbrot | i tried different versions of madwifi and madwifi-ng, no effect |
| 19:25.17 | Maulkin | confuzed: Just ask here, more people are likley to help you |
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| 19:25.45 | Wurstbrot | i tryed different kernels, im using custom 2.6.16.17 now, but standard 2.6.8 has the same problem |
| 19:26.23 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: Well, it could be a bug in madwifi |
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| 19:26.44 | Wurstbrot | in 3 different versions? |
| 19:27.01 | confuzed | OK... here's the issue... webmin is slow on local subnet, as is SSH... culprit is probably DNS lookup, but I am using a dd-wrt flashed Linksys for DNS, and static IP on the debian server... how do I force the server to register with router's dns. |
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| 19:27.03 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: Possibly, if a bug hasn't been found yet |
| 19:27.12 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: It could also be memtest being wrong |
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| 19:28.45 | yggdrasil | does anyone here know how to set a ssh keepalive aside from the -o tcpkeepalive cuz thats just not working... |
| 19:28.47 | Wurstbrot | well i dont have ram modules to switch, so i cant rule that out. |
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| 19:29.06 | Wurstbrot | i posted the problem in #madwifi, lets see what they got to say |
| 19:29.07 | abrotman | Wurstbrot: you can't hold me liable ... but i've used cpuburn to find damaged ahrdware .. though .. it usually cooks it if it's a CPU issue |
| 19:29.17 | Genius16 | anyone had any luck getting fglrx working in xorg 6.9.0 in kernel 2.6.12? x1x00 series card |
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| 19:29.23 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: Do you only have one module in there? |
| 19:29.29 | Phlexonance | is there a matroska codec for debian? |
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| 19:29.35 | Mewshi | how do i find out what version of a package i have installed? |
| 19:29.55 | Genius16 | try finding it in your package manager, mewshi, if you use one. |
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| 19:30.01 | thingfish | Mewshi: dpkg -s or dpkg -l packagename |
| 19:30.11 | Genius16 | sweet. im learning everyday haha |
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| 19:30.43 | Wurstbrot | its a laptop, honestly i havent looked yet, but if there are 2 i can take one out, your right |
| 19:30.54 | habenix | I need to know what exect xeon cpu model I have. how can I find out? need something as detailed as: intel xeon 7041 |
| 19:31.32 | Maulkin | habenix: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:32.11 | Le_Vert | any cobalt owners here ? |
| 19:32.33 | jplibre | anyone have thoughts on Coda these days? I have not used it in 3 years or so. |
| 19:32.48 | Wurstbrot | but i dont think its the hardware, the problem occurs only in this special situation, i ran memtest for hours with no problems, there is nothing overclocked or otherwise modified |
| 19:32.50 | Maulkin | Le_Vert: As I said in #debian-devel, yes |
| 19:33.14 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: I'm guessing it's madwifi then |
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| 19:33.59 | Wurstbrot | u know a good, stable driver for atheros pci wlan? |
| 19:34.13 | yggdrasil | wurstbrot |
| 19:34.20 | yggdrasil | i use the one that comes with dapper |
| 19:34.29 | yggdrasil | i dont knwo what the heck they did but its truly amazing |
| 19:34.44 | yggdrasil | packet injection ,wep and the whole package. |
| 19:34.46 | Maulkin | Wurstbrot: http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html |
| 19:35.01 | Maulkin | No, that's wrong |
| 19:35.04 | Maulkin | Ignore that |
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| 19:35.12 | MatBoy | I have compiled a new kernel (2.6.16.18) for my Etch Distro. Because I run Vmware, VmWare is saying that it needs the new locations of the C headers. I have installed the headers.deb... what did I forgot ? Because the location is not OK |
| 19:35.23 | morten | is there some way to execute a cron script at will, to see if it works as it should? |
| 19:35.27 | Wurstbrot | thank you guys, ill check that out |
| 19:35.29 | yggdrasil | um ight also try in #wireless |
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| 19:36.54 | MatBoy | I have to say... kdm can not be started now. |
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| 19:37.32 | LoRez | morten: schedule it a couple minutes into the future? |
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| 19:37.57 | abrotman | !u |
| 19:37.58 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 19:38.00 | korhojoa | kmlö |
| 19:38.03 | korhojoa | lol? |
| 19:38.09 | abrotman | morten: use at ? |
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| 19:38.54 | OTL| | allo all, slightly off topic, but I'm getting a little desperate in my searchin, does anyone here use any emc mcdata fiber switches? |
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| 19:39.48 | abrotman | OTL|: slightly? :) |
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| 19:41.07 | Wurstbrot | yggdrasil: what is dapper? do you mean the ubuntu version? |
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| 19:41.23 | OTL| | abrotman, you wouldn't happen to have any documentation with the error codes listed would you? I've been searching google all morning, and have been given the runaround by emc, dell, and mcdata |
| 19:41.59 | tarzeau | stoned: of course |
| 19:42.17 | stoned | went to go eat lunch? |
| 19:42.19 | mod-exi | Hi! I want to add AMD-Geode driver to Debian with 2.6 Kernel, but i faild, because my System says "You have no rights to to that" (transtation form german text) - I'm logged in as root. |
| 19:42.23 | stoned | took a while there hehe |
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| 19:44.49 | habenix | is it still a problem for grub to have an lvm boot or root partition? |
| 19:45.34 | toshiro | i have installed ftpd with apt-get, my ftpd server is up and running, i can upload files, the problem is the mask when creating files, i dont know where to change it, i found the command in man, but i dont know where to write it.....i'm supposed to start "ftpd -u 022" but how can i do that without any config file,somme help? |
| 19:46.09 | Maulkin | toshiro: Which ftpd have you installed? |
| 19:46.21 | toshiro | apt-get install ftpd |
| 19:47.07 | Maulkin | toshiro: Erm... Ok. I suggest you use a different one. Remove that and install proftpd |
| 19:47.14 | toshiro | ok |
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| 19:47.29 | Maulkin | Or vsftpd or something |
| 19:47.35 | Maulkin | Use apt-cache show to see a description |
| 19:47.49 | ttyS1 | I'm getting a kernel panic when I try to use apt-get |
| 19:47.49 | toshiro | ok |
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| 19:48.53 | maxxle | I copy a directory "cp -v directory /path/to/destination". Why is this NOT going to be copied in alphabetical order? (I need it copied in Alphabetical order) If I say "cp * /path/to/destination" it gets copied in alphabetical order. |
| 19:49.03 | Wurstbrot | im off for ger vs. p jap gn8 all |
| 19:49.03 | ttyS1 | my machine won't boot in normal mode is there a way I can check what the errors are ? |
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| 19:49.10 | morten | guys, come on already. is there some way i can test and see if a cron script is working as it should? |
| 19:49.33 | morten | i'd really appreciate if someone could tell me. |
| 19:49.33 | tux2007 | hello, how to mount an iso image like a cdrom (similar to daemon tools in windows)? |
| 19:49.45 | scytheman | echo something into a file, morten? |
| 19:49.51 | habenix | anybody experienced with Xen here |
| 19:49.54 | scytheman | tux2007, mount -o loop |
| 19:49.57 | morten | scytheman: how? |
| 19:49.59 | petemc | morten: you should get an email |
| 19:50.06 | scytheman | morten, echo bla > file? |
| 19:50.15 | simonrvn | maxxle: so do cp dir/* |
| 19:50.15 | morten | just echo the cron script? |
| 19:50.16 | tux2007 | scytheman, but using dd? |
| 19:50.17 | fartmastr | my hard drive idles at 45 c |
| 19:50.41 | scytheman | tux2007, dd can't mount, it can only create an iso from a cd |
| 19:50.41 | razor_edge | Ronin: not so easy, when i told the kernel to use runit instead of init the system doesnt boot |
| 19:50.44 | razor_edge | hi! Anyone could help me installing runit? |
| 19:51.03 | tux2007 | scytheman, ok thanks. |
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| 19:51.21 | maxxle | simonrvn: Yes! But this only works for the console. I want to do it in thunar or nautilus. Now I wonder WHY it is not copied in alphabetical order :( |
| 19:51.28 | petemc | razor_edge: theres a guide on http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
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| 19:51.59 | morten | scytheman: i'm not sure if you misunderstood the question, or if i misunderstood the answer, but i've got a cron script that's supposed to run ntpdate once a week (i.e it's in cron.weekly). waiting a week to see if it works isn't very efficient. how can i run the script now, to see if it does what it's supposed to do? |
| 19:52.14 | simonrvn | maxxle: NFC. maybe do a ^a then cp it. maybe it behaves like in mock os (no preference except order) |
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| 19:52.28 | abrotman | OTL|: eh .. not even close |
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| 19:52.40 | abrotman | OTL|: tell them if they can't fix it .. you want your money back :) |
| 19:52.40 | scytheman | morten, uhm, change the time so that it runs every minute or so? i don't think that there is any other way to test this |
| 19:52.45 | petemc | morten: of course ./path/to/script |
| 19:52.47 | confuzed | Can anyone tell me how to manually register my staticIP based debian server with my linksys router's dns tables |
| 19:52.53 | razor_edge | petemc: where? i do a quick search for runit and i found nothing |
| 19:53.13 | petemc | razor_edge: google for debian administration runit |
| 19:53.16 | shutdownrunner | What is the easiest way of access privileges to digital camera to an ordinary user? I can download photos as a root, but not as my normal user. |
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| 19:53.27 | maxxle | simonrvn: I don't like things that happen randomly. |
| 19:53.28 | shutdownrunner | *giving these privileges |
| 19:53.47 | morten | petemc: what do you mean? |
| 19:53.51 | maxxle | simonrvn: But I will get accept it |
| 19:53.56 | morten | scytheman: how do i change it to run every minute? |
| 19:54.04 | simonrvn | maxxle: well, it's not my fault. file a bug on them? |
| 19:54.05 | petemc | morten: what part dont you understand? |
| 19:54.07 | Maulkin | shutdownrunner: "adduser <username> camera" I think |
| 19:54.20 | morten | petemc: all of it |
| 19:54.21 | scytheman | morten, man 5 crontab |
| 19:54.32 | morten | scytheman: thanks. i'll check it out. |
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| 19:54.45 | ttyS1 | confuzed: you are trying to get your debian machine to use the DNS servers listed in your linksys router ? |
| 19:54.52 | maxxle | simonrvn: Never said it's yours. |
| 19:54.53 | petemc | morten: in a terminal window, type "./path/to/your/script" without the quotes |
| 19:55.01 | abrotman | OTL|: alternately .. ask #hardware |
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| 19:55.13 | shutdownrunner | Maulkin:is ther such a group in debian? I mean, I'm using gnome graphical interface to groups and users, and there's no such group out there |
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| 19:55.29 | scytheman | morten, i thin changing everything to * starts the command every minute |
| 19:55.34 | scytheman | *think |
| 19:55.44 | morten | thanks petemc |
| 19:55.52 | morten | <3 |
| 19:56.08 | petemc | np |
| 19:56.10 | shutdownrunner | Maulkin:ok. I've just checked. there is one, but it isn't shown anywhere in the graphical interface |
| 19:56.13 | MatBoy | Do I only have to install the headers-.deb-file also after compiling and installing a new kernel ? |
| 19:56.22 | Maulkin | shutdownrunner: I don't use the gui, sorry |
| 19:56.23 | stoned | !ping |
| 19:56.23 | dpkg | pong |
| 19:56.26 | stoned | doh |
| 19:56.32 | stoned | guess im not laggin |
| 19:56.47 | dondelelcaro | scytheman: yes, it does... man 5 crontab for details |
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| 19:57.03 | scytheman | dondelelcaro, yes, as i said before |
| 19:57.07 | shutdownrunner | Maulkin:thanks. I haven't used debian for quite some time (ubuntu) and I just took things like this for granted |
| 19:57.09 | confuzed | ttyS1: No... just trying to prevent delays in SSL and SSH connections... I see a bit of dns traffic before anything happens |
| 19:57.10 | OTL| | abrotman, heh, thanks |
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| 19:57.44 | dondelelcaro | scytheman: cool, you just seemed slightly confused there for some resaon. |
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| 19:58.01 | scytheman | dondelelcaro, eh, yes, thats right :) |
| 19:58.21 | jpinto | Hi, anyone with alsa problems? about a fixed path to a "home/jordi/....." ? |
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| 19:58.47 | dondelelcaro | jpinto: those should have been fixed, but check the BTS if you've still got issues |
| 19:58.59 | jpinto | dondelelcaro: BTS? |
| 19:59.15 | dondelelcaro | !tell jpinto -about bts |
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| 19:59.24 | chealer | Maulkin: what's wrong? |
| 19:59.37 | dondelelcaro | jpinto: and in your case, it's already reported as #369469 |
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| 19:59.42 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 369469 |
| 19:59.45 | dpkg | #369469:S[libasound2] libasound2: invalid datadir path - alsa.conf not found; Tue, 30 May 2006 01:33:18 UTC |
| 19:59.54 | _Sam-- | i want to install a simple package...but when i do apt-get install simple-package, apt wants to install a zillion other (unrelated) packages...how do i clear the list of what apt wants to install? |
| 20:00.00 | jpinto | dondek: ok, thanks |
| 20:00.07 | jpinto | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks |
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| 20:00.37 | dman | a higher kernel version is always best? what kernel is best for a P1? |
| 20:00.41 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: what is the complete output? If you don't want those other packages to be installed, tell apt not to install them by using - |
| 20:00.49 | Maulkin | chealer: just various people being 'special' |
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| 20:00.53 | dondelelcaro | dman: generally, but it's not a rule. 2.6.8 will work. |
| 20:01.06 | chealer | dman: OK :) |
| 20:01.15 | chealer | dman: sorry |
| 20:01.23 | chealer | Maulkin: OK :) |
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| 20:01.29 | MatBoy | can nobody tell me how I can install the kernelheaders of a manually compiled kernel ? |
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| 20:02.00 | scytheman | MatBoy, uhm? the headers are in your source directory |
| 20:02.13 | scytheman | just don't delete this directory |
| 20:02.17 | MatBoy | scytheman, Vmware can find them there :( |
| 20:02.22 | chealer | MatBoy: who knows? maybe you could try asking the question and see |
| 20:02.36 | _Sam-- | dondek: i dont have any chance to put in -....i type 'apt-get install simple-package'...and it tells me "the following extra packages will be installed (unrelated and my package doesnt depend on the)....but i hvae no way to tell it not to install the extra packages |
| 20:02.39 | MatBoy | can't |
| 20:02.44 | dman | dondelelcaro, would u say that 2.6.8 would need more ram than a 2.2.20? |
| 20:02.49 | scytheman | MatBoy, then there's something wrong with vmware |
| 20:02.51 | _Sam-- | so how do i clear the list of what apt wants to install? |
| 20:03.25 | scytheman | MatBoy, maybe vmware expects /usr/src/linux (a link to your source directory). if so, create it. otherwise read the manual and/or contact your support |
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| 20:03.47 | RichiH | _Sam--: you can do stuff with dpkg's --no-depends, but that is not recommended |
| 20:03.48 | MatBoy | scytheman, it's strange because I removed the /usr/src/linux and made a new simlink for my new kernel |
| 20:04.04 | RichiH | _Sam--: if apt wants to install stuff by itself then you need it |
| 20:04.06 | toshiro | Maulkin, where do you set the users on proftpd? |
| 20:04.23 | _Sam-- | i know that the things it wants to install arent required by the package im trying to install |
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| 20:04.25 | MatBoy | scytheman, I have downloaded the source, build the kernel, installed it... installed the headers.deb that it made... doesn't work :( |
| 20:04.44 | RichiH | _Sam--: then download and install the package by hand |
| 20:04.55 | scytheman | MatBoy, what headers.deb? |
| 20:05.03 | _Sam-- | i did apt-cache showpkg so i could download the package by hand... |
| 20:05.06 | _Sam-- | but i cant find the package |
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| 20:05.26 | _Sam-- | g |
| 20:05.34 | _Sam-- | this is the showpkg: 1:2.4.5p1-2(/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.espri.arizona.edu_debian-amd64_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages |
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| 20:06.24 | _Sam-- | where would i find the .deb i need?? i went there, cd'd through all the directories |
| 20:07.11 | MatBoy | scytheman, That linux-kernel-headers is a deb that was made during the compile of the kernel. When I installed this deb it created the headers-directory in /usr/src/ for this kernel |
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| 20:07.39 | scytheman | MatBoy, sorry, i don't compile my kernels the debian way |
| 20:07.40 | dman | dondelelcaro, would u say that 2.6.8 would need more ram than a 2.2.20? |
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| 20:07.46 | jpinto | dondelelcaro: sorry, but when you said that the alsa problem must have been handled, did you mean that a fix is out? because 'experimental' has no new package... |
| 20:07.56 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: sure you can; you just go apt-get install foopkg barpkg-; |
| 20:08.03 | scytheman | MatBoy, search the vmware manual/faq/whatever for your problem or contact the support |
| 20:08.15 | dondelelcaro | jpinto: a different problem had been handled; the bug that you're seeing is a new one. |
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| 20:08.18 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro : there are too many barpkgs |
| 20:08.21 | MatBoy | scytheman, I have done that already... other persons have the same problem |
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| 20:08.39 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: give the full output then |
| 20:08.47 | scytheman | MatBoy, hm, strange |
| 20:08.49 | jpinto | dondelelcaro: ah..ok |
| 20:08.52 | MatBoy | scytheman, this is the filename: linux-headers-2.6.16.18_Custom.1_i386.deb |
| 20:08.54 | _Sam-- | s'ok, im just finding the debs |
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| 20:09.12 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: that won't help you |
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| 20:09.17 | _Sam-- | if i download them and do dpkg -i, why not? |
| 20:09.19 | MatBoy | scytheman, and this is the dir that it makes: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.16.18 |
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| 20:09.29 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: because the next time you run apt-get, it'll try to install those other packages. |
| 20:09.35 | toshiro | where can i set users for proftd? |
| 20:09.46 | _Sam-- | i wont be using apt-get i guess much |
| 20:09.54 | scytheman | MatBoy, i think you habe to tell vmware to search inside this directory |
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| 20:10.05 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: just give us the full output so we can see what it's trying to do. |
| 20:10.08 | _Sam-- | most of my packages i compile from source anyways |
| 20:10.12 | _Sam-- | sure , sec |
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| 20:10.25 | MatBoy | scytheman, that is my idea too. But should it not be more nice to move that dir into the Linux LS ? |
| 20:10.31 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'm reading thinkwiki and "Enable ata_piix and libata) as modules (this is often the default) and add "options libata atapi_enabled=1" to your /etc/modprobe.conf (or the equivalent in your distribution)". Where do I have to specify "options libata atapi_enabled=1" in Debian ? |
| 20:10.38 | MatBoy | scytheman, more clean I mean |
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| 20:11.00 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 20:11.02 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro : http://sam.pastebin.com/747612 |
| 20:11.03 | lord_rob | I have no /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 20:11.08 | scytheman | MatBoy, whats "Linux LS"? |
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| 20:11.40 | neurocyte | lord_rob, man modules |
| 20:11.43 | Zweideutig | Guten tag. |
| 20:11.59 | lord_rob | thanks neurocyte |
| 20:12.05 | scytheman | tach. |
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| 20:12.47 | MatBoy | scytheman, I mean the LS-command ;) |
| 20:12.48 | Zweideutig | Is colinux is good way to run Debian on my Windows 3.11 machine with Win 32's? |
| 20:12.59 | MatBoy | scytheman, symlink |
| 20:13.20 | neurocyte | lord_rob, also checkout man modprobe.conf |
| 20:13.42 | scytheman | MatBoy, you mean creating a link (/usr/src/linux) to this directory? |
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| 20:14.28 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: you just need to remove postgresql-client-7.4 and possibly libcupsys2 |
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| 20:14.32 | lord_rob | neurocyte: so "ata_piix libata atapi_enabled=1" in /etc/modules ? |
| 20:14.37 | MatBoy | scytheman, nope, move the header-dir to the linux-symlink dir |
| 20:14.39 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: the other packages listed there are just being upgraded |
| 20:14.40 | _Sam-- | i dont need samba or those nonsense either |
| 20:14.43 | MatBoy | scytheman, I trying something :) |
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| 20:15.19 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: well, you've already got samba installed |
| 20:15.21 | _Sam-- | i see what you're saying now... |
| 20:15.26 | RevSlowmo | Anyone know a good webblog for apache2 in sarge? |
| 20:15.29 | _Sam-- | i know..but i dont need to updated it...i dont use it! |
| 20:15.37 | RevSlowmo | wordpress is not in sarge |
| 20:15.37 | _Sam-- | so how do i make it not do anything but install what i want? :) |
| 20:15.38 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: so remove it |
| 20:15.39 | neurocyte | lord_rob, no, just one module per line afaik |
| 20:15.48 | scytheman | MatBoy, hm, actually the headers from this deb package should already exist in your kernel source directory |
| 20:15.53 | shutdownrunner | If debian sid is so unstable, why is there no gaim 2.0 in its repo? |
| 20:16.17 | scytheman | shutdownrunner, its in experimental |
| 20:16.26 | somiaj | trying to install xorg looks like I have all the packages I need, but when I try to startx it cannot open /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config because the file is not there. This file use to be generated by installing xserver-common (which is now obsolete and conflicts with x11-common >= 7.0.1 bug 362359. So in this case what package now contains the scripts to generate /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and a few other 'common' xserver files? |
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| 20:16.32 | shutdownrunner | scytheman:It is??? so why did I compile it:) |
| 20:16.42 | scytheman | shutdownrunner :) |
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| 20:16.45 | MatBoy | scytheman, indeed... I goin to rebuild the kernel |
| 20:16.46 | _Sam-- | i just dont like installing stuff that i dont need updgraded on a production machine...its like, if it aint broke, i dont want it to fix it. |
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| 20:16.51 | MatBoy | *going |
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| 20:17.05 | _Sam-- | and it makes me nervous when it want to start changing/upgarding packages that are working fine |
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| 20:17.20 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: what distribution are you running on that production machine anyway? |
| 20:17.20 | lord_rob | neurocyte: well " libata atapi_enabled=1" are arguments to ata_piix, if I understand the manpage correctly |
| 20:17.30 | lord_rob | neurocyte: not other modules |
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| 20:17.47 | chealer | scytheman: unstable is there for accidental breakage, not for uploading packages known to be unsuitable for testing |
| 20:17.51 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: it sure looks to me like you're not running stable on it |
| 20:17.55 | _Sam-- | debian sarge or etch (whichver is for AMD64) with my own kernel |
| 20:17.57 | neurocyte | lord_rob, libata and ata_piix are modules, atapi_enabled is the parameter |
| 20:18.04 | _Sam-- | i didnt realize there is a 'stable' amd64 |
| 20:18.12 | _Sam-- | er rather, the stable branch doesnt have all the stuff i want :) |
| 20:18.19 | abrotman | sarge is stable |
| 20:18.32 | _Sam-- | i think i added some 'unstable' sources to my aptlist |
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| 20:18.34 | abrotman | so .. stable doesn't have what you want .. but you're whining about a non-released distro changing packages? |
| 20:18.35 | _Sam-- | so i could get some packages |
| 20:18.48 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: there's an unofficial amd64 sarge release; if you want some newer packagess, you should backport them. |
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| 20:18.53 | _Sam-- | i dont need automatic updates on my linux box... |
| 20:18.58 | neurocyte | lord_rob, my sysfs tells me that atapi_enabled is a parameter for the libata module |
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| 20:19.02 | _Sam-- | if i want to update a package, i willd amn well do it myself |
| 20:19.07 | _Sam-- | or tell apt to do it |
| 20:19.09 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: that's fine, but you're fighting against the system instead of having it work for you now. |
| 20:19.12 | lord_rob | ah I see neurocyte so "ata_piix \n libata atapi_enabled=1" ? |
| 20:19.17 | _Sam-- | but to force me to update packages that i dont want to upgrade...that is no fair |
| 20:19.24 | neurocyte | lord_rob, yep |
| 20:19.32 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: that's because you're not running stable. Unstable changes. It's the nature of the beast. |
| 20:19.38 | toshiro | how can i put off services(i dont want to look for mta for example) on a debian? |
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| 20:19.46 | lord_rob | ah thanks neurocyte hope it'll work |
| 20:19.49 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: if you only want specified upgrades, you need to run stable. |
| 20:19.57 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro : thank you for your advice and comments...that has always been why i used a netinst to get up and running.,..and then gave up on apt |
| 20:20.00 | _Sam-- | now i remember why |
| 20:20.09 | neurocyte | lord_rob, try "modinfo libata" for parameter details |
| 20:20.11 | yassine | i can not login to my box using my username and password but when i use the root access i can log in im using gnome any idea what could be wrong please ? |
| 20:20.18 | neoXite | hi, i'm using etch (2.6.15-1-686-smp) with a rebuilt cryptsetup package from sid and i get kernel errors when i write to encrypted volumes. |
| 20:20.18 | neurocyte | modinfo works with any module |
| 20:20.33 | bibe | hi all. I have to retrieve structure and data from a Sybase database, and replicate the structure in a MySQL database. What kind of client can I use to "browse" the current Sybase db? |
| 20:20.40 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: apt is far more powerfull... when you run double digit boxes in production, you'll understand why it does things the way it does. |
| 20:20.50 | neoXite | however i don't get any errors with the same cryptsetup package using knoppix with a 2.6.12 kernel |
| 20:21.26 | _Sam-- | im just far to engrained with the 'if it aint broke, im not touching it' mentality...and having something automatically making changes to a production box for me makes me worry. |
| 20:21.46 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: that's why you run stable on production machines with known apt sources. |
| 20:21.50 | neoXite | i tested my ram and the hardware has always been good to me, but i'm inexperienced with interpreting kernel error messages, can someone please have a look at if the error is critical? |
| 20:21.55 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: the only changes to the stable distribution are for security fixes. That's it. |
| 20:22.16 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro : production versions of stuff for AMD64 are not that many. |
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| 20:22.25 | lord_rob | neurocyte: do you know if ata_piix must be after libata or the contrary in /etc/modules ? |
| 20:22.27 | _Sam-- | so i am forced to unstable to get packages i want |
| 20:22.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: not quite IIRC .. |
| 20:22.30 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: there's an unofficial release of stable. |
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| 20:22.44 | _Sam-- | just trying to do SMP on the AMD64 with the install options out there...was...fun. |
| 20:22.45 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: the only other case is when the package is so broken that it doesn't work anyway. |
| 20:22.58 | _Sam-- | with rai |
| 20:22.59 | _Sam-- | d |
| 20:23.01 | _Sam-- | real fun. |
| 20:23.12 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: SMP is just a function of the kernel, as is raid... |
| 20:23.21 | _Sam-- | considering the raid card isnt supported in any installs (kernels) |
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| 20:23.28 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: which raid card? |
| 20:23.29 | _Sam-- | and neither was SMP |
| 20:23.29 | neurocyte | lord_rob, modinfo ata_piix says that ata_piix depends on libata, so it should come after |
| 20:23.44 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: you don't need SMP support in the install; you just install an SMP kernel later |
| 20:23.44 | _Sam-- | hold , i'll see what i had to compile as... |
| 20:23.53 | _Sam-- | the SMP kernel later had no RAID |
| 20:24.04 | _Sam-- | my / is on an unsupported raid |
| 20:24.05 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: so build one that does? |
| 20:24.26 | _Sam-- | anywho you try to make it seem like i am the one that doesnt know what im doing...but in the end, i do...andi just dont like things updating my shit for me. |
| 20:24.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: IIRC .. they let .. what i guess would be RC bug fixes in |
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| 20:25.18 | abrotman | http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r2/ |
| 20:25.47 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it's really at the descretion of the stable RM, but in general it's only security bugs and packages that are totally broken; (and the latter generally only for the first couple point releases) |
| 20:25.55 | marco13185 | Of all the folders that could have been lost because a fs failure, I lose /home |
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| 20:26.05 | lord_rob | ok thanks neurocyte hope it'll work |
| 20:26.07 | marco13185 | :( |
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| 20:26.31 | aronofsky | hi , for kde users, are there other apps that ark to have .rar files opened in konqueror ? |
| 20:26.32 | neoXite | i've already tried finding a meaningful explanation to the problem, but i'm out of ideas, the error seems to happen during the aes encryption |
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| 20:26.41 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: what you end up doing is up to you, but a couple of us have a lot of experience running Debian in production environments; whether you listen to our advice or not is your decision. |
| 20:26.46 | chealer | aronofsky: ask #debian-kde |
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| 20:27.19 | neoXite | or where would be a more appropiate place to ask about such issues? |
| 20:27.32 | _Sam-- | donde1: whether you choose to believe me or not, i have been running debian on production systems as long as any , ANY, person in this channel.....there are things that could be better, but if you want to ride your high horse and not acknowledge those things by all means that is more than fine with me |
| 20:27.37 | aronofsky | ok soory |
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| 20:28.13 | topro | hi, got a problem with debian netinst iso trying to install on a rather old dell latitude cpi. installer (even in gui mode) comes up but after language selection when it tries to detect an mount the cdrom drive the drive spins up but then the installation process hangs. i still can change to other console. any help appreciated |
| 20:28.15 | _Sam-- | just because i had to install on a non-raid scsi card to my scsi drive, compile a new kernel, put that drive in the raid controller, create the array, then boot....that is not the best solution one can offer. |
| 20:28.20 | neurocyte | neoxan, I use cryptsetup, what error do you get? |
| 20:28.22 | Xelion | How do I change my default keyboard layout? |
| 20:28.30 | thingfish | _Sam--: you should listen to dondelelcaro |
| 20:28.33 | neurocyte | sorry, I meant neoXite |
| 20:28.35 | sepski | Xelion, X or console ? |
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| 20:28.41 | neoxan | neurocyte, no problem^^ |
| 20:28.44 | Xelion | both? |
| 20:28.55 | _Sam-- | there is nothing to "listen to"...he is saying use apt-get and let it do its thing |
| 20:28.58 | sepski | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.06 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: no, I'm saying to fix apt-get so you can actually use it. |
| 20:29.12 | sepski | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.20 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: remove samba if you don't want it. Remove postgresql if you don't want it. |
| 20:29.49 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: if you don't want some packages upgraded, hold them. |
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| 20:30.03 | dondelelcaro | if you don't want any packages upgraded, pin the sources that you don't want packages upgraded from. |
| 20:30.25 | phaedrus44 | ne1 here use gtkpod? |
| 20:30.31 | _Sam-- | thank you for your time and input, and sorry for being somewhat attitudinal... |
| 20:30.50 | abrotman | _Sam--: as long as any person in this channel ? |
| 20:30.52 | simonrvn | ne1 isn't here |
| 20:31.03 | neurocyte | lord_rob, any luck? |
| 20:31.18 | simonrvn | * ne1 :No such nick/channel |
| 20:31.20 | _Sam-- | hmmm since 1996, maybe some people have me beat. |
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| 20:31.26 | phaedrus44 | isn't ? thats 2 words shortened into one right? |
| 20:31.28 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: timewise could be; but experience wise, it's doubtfull... esp. considering that _Sam-- isn't a DD. |
| 20:31.39 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: hey .. i'm not a DD either :) |
| 20:31.46 | unfo | yassine: ping |
| 20:31.49 | phaedrus44 | simonrvn? |
| 20:31.50 | Maulkin | abrotman: it shows :P |
| 20:31.57 | abrotman | Maulkin: i know where you live!!!!!!!! |
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| 20:32.01 | Maulkin | Damn! |
| 20:32.02 | yassine | unfo, pong |
| 20:32.12 | abrotman | Maulkin: well .. the general vicinity .. like .. the other side of the pond! |
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| 20:32.35 | simonrvn | ^ that way |
| 20:32.40 | unfo | yassine: did you ask here? :) |
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| 20:32.51 | _Sam-- | i probably still have a debian 1.0 cd around here |
| 20:33.01 | unfo | *1.1 |
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| 20:33.14 | _Sam-- | i have the first slackware cd's around this place somewhere |
| 20:33.15 | Maulkin | abrotman: heh |
| 20:33.25 | abrotman | _Sam--: there was no 1.0 .. nice try |
| 20:33.29 | dondelelcaro | ah yes... the totally non-functional, not-working 1.0 cd... |
| 20:33.31 | yassine | unfo, scroll to 2202 |
| 20:33.32 | lord_rob | Still no luck neurocyte :( |
| 20:33.40 | abrotman | at least .. not from debian anyways |
| 20:33.49 | szym | Is there any way to set wallpaper under tty (with FB)? There was something like cvidx or such in mplayer that played a movie in the background. |
| 20:33.54 | unfo | yassine: i was not on. feel free to /msg me the scrollback |
| 20:33.56 | habenix | is there any tool, that lets me resize LVM volumes and the file systems on them in one step? |
| 20:34.10 | xlx | if I see : apt-cache search mysql .. and I see "mysql-server - mysql database server (current version)" ... is there anyway to tell which version is "current" based on the repository? Without installing ? I was gonna install/remove it to see |
| 20:34.14 | Shadowcat | why would you resize LVM on a regular basis? |
| 20:34.15 | abrotman | habenix: not all filesystems can be resized |
| 20:34.16 | _Sam-- | sorry i had the unnofficial broken release of 1.0 |
| 20:34.18 | yassine | unfo, okay |
| 20:34.42 | Maulkin | xlx: apt-cache show mysql-server |
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| 20:34.43 | Andrea | My wireless NIC just broke, I have a meeting in 2 hours, I *NEED* network access during the meeting, and there's a Microcenter on the way. What NIC do I want, native support, I don't have time to dick around with ndiswrapper. |
| 20:34.46 | abrotman | and you still can't figure out apt-get ? |
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| 20:34.55 | jolly_ | How is it possbile to mount a FreeBSD partion in Debian? |
| 20:35.02 | jolly_ | I tried with mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ |
| 20:35.05 | _Sam-- | i mentioned before, i normally compile all my own packages |
| 20:35.05 | lord_rob | neurocyte: please have a quick look at http://paste.lisp.org/display/20638 this is my /etc/modules |
| 20:35.07 | jolly_ | but i only get errors |
| 20:35.08 | xlx | Maulkin, thanks man |
| 20:35.10 | abrotman | jolly_: try -t auto ? |
| 20:35.12 | _Sam-- | so ive never used alot of ap-tgetting |
| 20:35.14 | unfo | yassine: i said *the scrollback* :) |
| 20:35.16 | _Sam-- | that is part of my problem |
| 20:35.22 | lord_rob | neurocyte: can you see something wrong ? |
| 20:35.33 | simonrvn | oh, a borked 'debian' install ;p |
| 20:35.35 | unfo | yassine: if nobody responded to you at all, just paste the question again. |
| 20:35.38 | unfo | !ask |
| 20:35.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:35.45 | Andrea | fsck. Ok, can anyone point me to a Debian compatbility list? |
| 20:35.46 | yassine | unfo, thats what happens |
| 20:35.47 | jolly_ | vip:/mnt# mount -r -t auto |
| 20:35.49 | jolly_ | no errors |
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| 20:35.51 | abrotman | simonrvn: like ubuntu .. but less sparkles! |
| 20:35.53 | unfo | yassine: paste to channel :) |
| 20:35.53 | jolly_ | no messages heh |
| 20:35.55 | szym | Is there any way to set wallpaper under tty (with FB)? There was something like cvidx or such in mplayer that played a movie in the background. |
| 20:36.00 | neurocyte | lord_rob, are you running sid? |
| 20:36.05 | dondelelcaro | Andrea: get an atheros chipset card and install madwifi |
| 20:36.13 | abrotman | szym: bsetroot ? |
| 20:36.15 | jolly_ | where are they stored if it got mounted? |
| 20:36.16 | yassine | i can not login to my box using my username and password but when i use the root access i can log in im using gnome any idea what could be wrong please , im using debian and gnome |
| 20:36.17 | unfo | syscog: Mepis Linux does it, ask in their channel how? |
| 20:36.27 | lord_rob | neurocyte: yes, kernel linux-2.6.16-2-686 |
| 20:36.28 | dondelelcaro | Andrea: if you're in the california area, Fry's Electronics has them for something like $15-30 |
| 20:36.49 | simonrvn | bsetroot is x |
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| 20:37.00 | habenix | Shadowcat: more frequently when I use the LVM partitions for XEN guest domains! |
| 20:37.05 | jolly_ | abrotman any ideas? |
| 20:37.15 | habenix | abrotman: I know which ones are capable |
| 20:37.16 | szym | abrotman: I dont want wallpaper on X, but under plain tty, text mode. |
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| 20:37.21 | neurocyte | lord_rob, you probably need to put the libata parameter in /etc/modprobe.d somewhere |
| 20:37.30 | Andrea | dondelelcaro: any name brands with the chipset you kow of off the top of your head? |
| 20:37.40 | toshiro | i've installed proftpd, but i cannot connect with dreamweaver to it, i've read man and normaly the system users should connect on proftpd, some help |
| 20:37.58 | _Sam-- | abrotman : i dont know if you remember, but you helped me in december come up with my own version of debian that ran entirely out of ram from a CF card and only touched the CF card every 17 minutes (loaded /var to ram) and wrote nothing to a |
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| 20:38.03 | unfo | !tell toshiro about ask |
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| 20:38.09 | unfo | toshiro: did you check the logs? :) |
| 20:38.12 | abrotman | _Sam--: are you the one in Connecticut? |
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| 20:38.19 | _Sam-- | i built a solid state asterisk server for some clients with your help |
| 20:38.32 | _Sam-- | im on the east coast, but not CT.. |
| 20:38.36 | abrotman | _Sam--: you'd never believe this .. i help lots of people .. i'm not just here to heckle all day :) |
| 20:38.38 | jolly_ | does debian support UFS? |
| 20:38.40 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:38.58 | abrotman | _Sam--: i've only helped a few people with CF installs .. you're the one that i sshed into to finish? |
| 20:39.02 | topro | hi, got a problem with debian netinst iso trying to install on a rather old dell latitude cpi. installer (even in gui mode) comes up but after language selection when it tries to detect an mount the cdrom drive the drive spins up but then the installation process hangs. i still can change to other console. any help appreciated |
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| 20:39.17 | abrotman | (which is the only time i've ever done that) |
| 20:39.25 | toshiro | there is nothing on my proftpd log |
| 20:39.26 | abrotman | _Sam--: i'm just busting on you .. don't take it personally .. |
| 20:39.34 | dondelelcaro | Andrea: I'm using an AirLink 101 SuperG Cardbus Adapter (AWLC4030-II, FCCID MXF-C940720G) |
| 20:39.35 | unfo | jolly_: "support" is a very broad word. |
| 20:39.41 | abrotman | szym: i don't think you can do that .. not sure though |
| 20:39.45 | dondelelcaro | Andrea: aka, one of the cheapest cards available |
| 20:39.45 | neurocyte | lord_rob, do this "echo libata atapi_enabled=1>/etc/modprobe.d/atapienable && update-initramfs -u" |
| 20:40.00 | abrotman | habenix: you'd look for tools for your filesystem type |
| 20:40.09 | unfo | I would be surprised if there was no Linux hardware compatibility list. |
| 20:40.10 | abrotman | like i think XFS can grow .. but not shrink |
| 20:40.14 | unfo | !google Linux hardware compatibility |
| 20:40.17 | neurocyte | lord_rob, that will make sure the parameter is used even if the module is loaded automatically during boot |
| 20:40.18 | jolly_ | unfo yeah its just that my ufs partion wont get mounted :( |
| 20:40.20 | _Sam-- | abrotman : you never ssh'd to my box, but i came back for a few weeks after it was done and you were interested in updates. |
| 20:40.20 | dpkg | Google was unable to find any results for Linux hardware compatibility |
| 20:40.23 | abrotman | unfo: it's long dead |
| 20:40.30 | jolly_ | i tried every command i found on google |
| 20:40.31 | unfo | abrotman: what is? |
| 20:40.33 | _Sam-- | it worked flawlessly....and still does |
| 20:40.34 | dondelelcaro | Andrea: most likely any Atheros chipset card will work though, they just have ot have the atheros Super G logo on them. |
| 20:40.34 | abrotman | _Sam--: ah .. under a different nick ? |
| 20:40.36 | abrotman | unfo: the HCL |
| 20:40.37 | abrotman | !hcl |
| 20:40.37 | dpkg | from memory, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 20:40.38 | jolly_ | but i still get the same error message:/ |
| 20:40.42 | unfo | jolly_: does dmesg help? |
| 20:40.51 | unfo | jolly_: what is the error? |
| 20:40.53 | Andrea | dondelelcaro : thanks man.. |
| 20:41.11 | neurocyte | lord_rob, sorry that should of course been "options libata atapi_enabled=1" |
| 20:41.16 | _Sam-- | you helped me identify where to put my commands before the pivot_root happened |
| 20:41.18 | _Sam-- | i think |
| 20:41.21 | szym | abrotman: Did you hear about cvidix? Look over there: http://42.pl/u/j22 . If htere's way to play movies, there must be way to set wallpaper. I've read through cvidix driver, but I'm all at sea with that - just internal mplayer functions/ |
| 20:41.40 | abrotman | szym: maybe query ##linux .. but i've never heard of such a thing |
| 20:41.51 | lord_rob | neurocyte: echo options libata atapi_enabled=1>/etc/modprobe.d/atapienable && update-initramfs -u |
| 20:41.55 | abrotman | _Sam--: it's possible .. darn pivot_root :) |
| 20:41.57 | lord_rob | right ? |
| 20:42.05 | lord_rob | neurocyte: right ? |
| 20:42.05 | neurocyte | lord_rob, yes |
| 20:42.11 | lord_rob | ok thanks |
| 20:42.16 | unfo | !wireless |
| 20:42.16 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux, or try asking #wireless |
| 20:42.25 | jolly_ | unfo |
| 20:42.26 | jolly_ | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, |
| 20:42.26 | jolly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.27 | jolly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.27 | jolly_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.31 | unfo | anhi: try there |
| 20:42.34 | unfo | oops |
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| 20:42.38 | jolly_ | ops sorry |
| 20:42.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | does someone have a good tutorial on how to build an printer server with samba and cups and such, becuas im trying for 2 days now and nothing more then ******* |
| 20:43.03 | unfo | ah, andrea is gone. |
| 20:43.06 | toshiro | this is my error: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/in.ftpd: No such file or directory |
| 20:43.06 | toshiro | i found anything about in.ftpd on proftpd config file. what next ? |
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| 20:43.54 | unfo | yassine: if you create a new user, does the problem still happen to them? |
| 20:44.06 | jolly_ | unfo any ideas?:/ |
| 20:44.17 | yassine | unfo, did not tried that yet |
| 20:44.22 | unfo | jolly_: try dmesg | tail |
| 20:44.26 | unfo | yassine: try. its easy. |
| 20:44.47 | jolly_ | ufs_read_super: bad magic number |
| 20:44.53 | jolly_ | ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write |
| 20:44.59 | jolly_ | ufs_read_super: bad magic number |
| 20:45.05 | yassine | unfo, i will try that and reboot since my keyboad is not working and the screen shows only weired colors now |
| 20:45.12 | xlx | mount -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=44bsd /dev/sdb1 /second <-- that or ... ufstype=ufs2 |
| 20:45.14 | dondelelcaro | jolly_: that means that what you think is ufs probably isn't; please don't paste here. |
| 20:45.31 | xlx | it means his ufstype is wrong |
| 20:45.36 | jolly_ | oh sorry |
| 20:45.55 | unfo | yassine: you need a LUG. |
| 20:46.13 | jolly_ | xlx same errors:/ |
| 20:46.17 | _Sam-- | abrotman , you are right about one thing though...for as long as ive been using linuces...i dont know diddly. but i know enough to have started 3 business with linux at the core with combinded sales of over 20 million per year, had the longest linux uptime on record for a few years over 1200 days in the mid/late 90s, and know generally just enough to break shit, and enough to come here and ask for help. |
| 20:46.17 | yassine | unfo, LUG ? |
| 20:46.21 | Maulkin | DJ-Marcuzz Linux in a Windows World by OReilly is good |
| 20:46.24 | jolly_ | "ufs_read_super: bad magic number" |
| 20:46.48 | abrotman | linux in the 90s couldn't measure uptime of 1200 days |
| 20:46.53 | _Sam-- | it didnt |
| 20:46.54 | _Sam-- | it wrapped |
| 20:46.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | Maulkin, i just need an tutorial on the printer server, nothng more |
| 20:46.59 | _Sam-- | but it was verified |
| 20:47.02 | unfo | all, how do i see the source code of a bot factoid? |
| 20:47.12 | _Sam-- | it wrapped at like 760ish days |
| 20:47.16 | _Sam-- | or something like that |
| 20:47.19 | _Sam-- | i forget the exact number |
| 20:47.19 | dondelelcaro | unfo: /msg dpkg literal cmd: foo (.*?) |
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| 20:47.36 | nash-18 | hi |
| 20:47.44 | xlx | jolly, ufstype=55xbsd |
| 20:47.47 | xlx | one of those |
| 20:47.50 | xlx | i don't remember them all |
| 20:47.59 | unfo | !literal cmd: fgi (.*?) |
| 20:48.09 | dondelelcaro | unfo: the /msg was important. |
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| 20:48.15 | nash-18 | i have a problem with alsa, do you have any problem with alsa on sid? |
| 20:48.22 | dobby | I need a backup programm which backsup an entire host for me. Can someone give me a hint for programms which are easy to configure? |
| 20:48.23 | lord_rob | Still no luck :( |
| 20:48.26 | dondelelcaro | nash-18: have you checked the bts? |
| 20:48.27 | unfo | dondelelcaro: i did it in public b/c it didnt work as /msg either. |
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| 20:48.34 | _Sam-- | dobby : amanda |
| 20:48.34 | jolly_ | hmm |
| 20:48.37 | _Sam-- | www.amanda.org |
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| 20:48.38 | a1fa | yo |
| 20:48.40 | unfo | dobby: are you at home or work? |
| 20:48.41 | jolly_ | xlx mount -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=55xbsd /dev/hdb1 /mnt |
| 20:48.45 | jolly_ | same error:/ |
| 20:48.48 | nash-18 | dondelelcaro, bts? |
| 20:48.49 | a1fa | i updated to runint, and now i dont get a logon prompt.. what a piece of shit |
| 20:48.54 | _Sam-- | sup a1fa |
| 20:49.02 | dobby | unfo: would it make adifference? |
| 20:49.08 | unfo | dondelelcaro: did i do it wrong? |
| 20:49.12 | a1fa | _Sam-- : sup man.. ever get those zaps to work? |
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| 20:49.19 | dondelelcaro | unfo: because that command is CMD: fgi (.*?) (.*?) |
| 20:49.23 | dondelelcaro | !tell nash-18 -about bts |
| 20:49.35 | unfo | dobby: also: how much Linux/UNIX experience do you have? how many machines? backup to CD or disk? |
| 20:49.40 | dondelelcaro | nash-18: in your case, it's already reported as #369469 |
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| 20:49.45 | yggdrasil | hey Dondelelcaro how you doin ? |
| 20:49.48 | lord_rob | neurocyte: still doesn't work :(. I have a libata.atapi_enabled=1 in my menu.lst (grub) could it be a problem ? |
| 20:50.01 | dondelelcaro | yggdrasil: good, just busy as usual |
| 20:50.02 | toshiro | i installed the proftpd package via apt-get, it's runnning as i see the 21 listen on the server, when i try to connect to the server with a server user, i receive the following error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/in.ftpd: No such file or directory, i dont know where to find in.ftpd, |
| 20:50.08 | yggdrasil | yar |
| 20:50.21 | unfo | dondelelcaro: thx. |
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| 20:50.27 | yggdrasil | same |
| 20:50.29 | yggdrasil | aight then.. |
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| 20:50.36 | neurocyte | lord_rob, what does "cat /sys/module/libata/parameters/atapi_enabled" say? |
| 20:50.43 | klync | hey... isn't /etc/bash.bashrc sourced by all interactive shells on login? |
| 20:50.43 | jair | hello guys I am trying to write some changes to the configuration of X86. |
| 20:50.52 | unfo | !tell jair about ask |
| 20:50.53 | jair | but the dpkg does not work. |
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| 20:51.03 | jolly_ | xlx do you have more suggestions? |
| 20:51.05 | lord_rob | neurocyte: 1 |
| 20:51.06 | NintendoWi | I am having trouble logging in. |
| 20:51.11 | dobby | unfo: I have linux experience. I need to backup 1 to 2 hosts |
| 20:51.15 | unfo | !tell NintendoWi about wi |
| 20:51.15 | Maulkin | toshiro "killall ftpd && /etc/init.d/proftpd start" |
| 20:51.21 | unfo | dobby: dvd or disk? |
| 20:51.26 | neurocyte | lord_rob, then the parameter is set |
| 20:51.27 | softwork | hello, to i install nvidia_agp i need? |
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| 20:51.28 | dobby | unfo: on a dvd or disk |
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| 20:51.45 | softwork | module-assistant nvidia-kernel install nvidia_agp module? |
| 20:51.48 | abrotman | _Sam--: knowing enough to come here and ask help is good .. better than waiting until you're fired :) |
| 20:51.57 | NintendoWi | Why can't I log in? |
| 20:51.58 | thingfish | softwork: m-a a-i nvidia |
| 20:52.03 | _Sam-- | abrotman : it helps to be the boss :) |
| 20:52.06 | NintendoWi | It doesn't even let me type in the password. |
| 20:52.08 | lord_rob | neurocyte: maybe the problem is that the dvd is configured as an ide drive before being configured as an scsi cdrom ... |
| 20:52.13 | softwork | ati graphics need nvidia_agp module correct? |
| 20:52.17 | softwork | i have nforce |
| 20:52.18 | unfo | dobby: good options for you may be tar+gzip or dd+gzip or those+7-Zip |
| 20:52.18 | thingfish | no |
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| 20:52.48 | thingfish | softwork: sorry, thought you were talking about an nvidia vidcard. |
| 20:52.48 | thingfish | nm ;) |
| 20:52.48 | Shib12 | What program is similar to DVD Shrink? |
| 20:52.50 | NintendoWi | login: <I type in username> then it says "Login incorrect" before I can even type in a password! |
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| 20:52.53 | Shib12 | Need help on this one |
| 20:53.01 | abrotman | _Sam--: i can see that .. though i've never been my own boss i guess |
| 20:53.01 | lord_rob | neurocyte: I have never used debian stock kernels on this box, only custom built kernels. I'm trying a debian prebuilt kernel but no luck :/ |
| 20:53.03 | softwork | ati graphics + nforce chipset ? |
| 20:53.08 | dobby | unfo: does dd has problems with open files or pipes? |
| 20:53.09 | unfo | !lug (.*?) (.*?) is ($1,$2): <reply>$1: Linux User Groups in your area may be found at http://google.com/search?query=$2+linux+user+group |
| 20:53.09 | dpkg | okay, unfo |
| 20:53.10 | softwork | i need nvidia_agp yes? |
| 20:53.20 | unfo | dobby: I'm not sure. |
| 20:53.21 | softwork | in agpgart |
| 20:53.22 | unfo | I assume so. |
| 20:53.33 | unfo | Backing up open files can always be a problem. |
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| 20:53.39 | NintendoWi | login: <I type in username> then it says "Login incorrect" before I can even type in a password! |
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| 20:53.57 | NintendoWi | How do I fix this? Why did it happen? |
| 20:53.58 | abrotman | _Sam--: based on your hostmask .. you're only about an hour from me |
| 20:54.06 | neurocyte | lord_rob, I'm afraid I can't help you any further, I've only got ata harddrives, no atapi devices |
| 20:54.07 | Shib12 | What program is similar to DVD Shrink but in linux? |
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| 20:54.39 | _Sam-- | abrotman : baltimore or NY? |
| 20:55.08 | klync | is it appropriate to place alias directives (i.e. for bash) in /etc/profile? |
| 20:55.14 | shutdownrunner | Shib12:you mean sth like this http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=711 ? |
| 20:55.19 | unfo | all, did I set up that factoid wrong? /msg dpkg lug and /msg dpkg lug toronto both do nothing. |
| 20:55.21 | Blissex | klync: no. |
| 20:55.41 | lord_rob | neurocyte: my cdrom/dvd is a pata device, it has an atapi emulation mode, and it is detected as an ide device before being detected as an scsi device :/ well I think I'll keep comiling my own kernels :/ thanks a lot for your help |
| 20:55.50 | klync | Blissex: heh... thx... do you have any idea why /etc/bash.bashrc isn't being sourced when i login via ssh? |
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| 20:56.11 | lord_rob | compiling* |
| 20:56.21 | Maulkin | !lug Maulkin Sheffield |
| 20:56.21 | neurocyte | lord_rob, what's wrong with running it as an ide device? |
| 20:56.31 | Maulkin | unfo: I guess so |
| 20:56.33 | unfo | lord_rob: maybe it's a bug? |
| 20:56.38 | Shib12 | shutdownrunner: found it "k9copy", thnx for the help anyway :) |
| 20:56.44 | Blissex | klync: because the author of BASH has decided it like that. No other reason. Add a '. /etc/bash.bashrc' at the end of '/etc/profile'. |
| 20:56.45 | unfo | anyone have any clue? |
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| 20:57.04 | unfo | dobby: what kinds of open files? e.g. is the machine a database server? |
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| 20:57.13 | abrotman | _Sam--: philly :) |
| 20:57.21 | lord_rob | neurocyte: no dma mode when run as ide. It's like an ata disk I suppose, it must be /dev/sda not /dev/hda. /dev/hda has no dma |
| 20:57.28 | _Sam-- | hmm in that case you are only about 20 minutes from wherest im sitting :) |
| 20:57.37 | _Sam-- | my sister is at 2nd and South |
| 20:57.37 | shutdownrunner | Shib12:thou shall know they use KDE by "k" in their name:) |
| 20:57.43 | abrotman | _Sam--: hehe .. nice area |
| 20:57.53 | Shib12 | shutdownrunner: I know, have used it :) |
| 20:57.53 | _Sam-- | are you center city or burbs? |
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| 20:57.59 | abrotman | _Sam--: well .. i generalized .. i'm in KoP |
| 20:58.02 | freeone3000 | How can I find who maintains what package? |
| 20:58.05 | neurocyte | lord_rob, can't you just turn on dma for hda? |
| 20:58.12 | unfo | yassine: a LUG is a Linux User Group. they are superb. you can get in-person help for free if you bring in your laptop. can i ask, what city are you in? then i can google for lugs for you. |
| 20:58.13 | klync | Blissex: i see ... so, that's the preferred way of doing it? seems a little odd, but okay |
| 20:58.15 | Maulkin | freeone3000: apt-cache show |
| 20:58.15 | _Sam-- | thats cool, what type of company do you work for? |
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| 20:58.21 | freeone3000 | Maulkin: Thanks. |
| 20:58.25 | Maulkin | freeone3000: or /msg dpkg maint <package> |
| 20:58.28 | Blissex | klync: read the insanely complicated rules in the "INVOCATION" section of 'man bash' and curse Brian Fox for that and many other insanities in BASH. |
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| 20:58.32 | abrotman | _Sam--: small consulting firm .. they do programming for a specialized app |
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| 20:58.35 | unfo | freeone3000: I am curious: is there a bug? |
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| 20:58.37 | klync | Blissex: lol |
| 20:58.45 | lord_rob | neurocyte: no, that can't be done with a sata controller, or am I wrong ? |
| 20:58.47 | unfo | abrotman: on linux? |
| 20:58.50 | yassine | unfo, im in cologne germany :) |
| 20:58.51 | marco13185 | what's the file that holds the log from the boot-up? |
| 20:58.51 | _Sam-- | and , not to sound more foolish than i already look....but you do sysadmin work or programming? |
| 20:58.59 | lord_rob | neurocyte: I have an IBM thinkpad R52 |
| 20:59.04 | Anthro | I am looking for a dialect filter http proxy. What I mean is something that be used as a standard http proxy, but will alter the text of the page to be like the Swedish Chef, or jive, or any of the other well-known text filters. |
| 20:59.05 | dragonfly | ok, i installed on this box but must have chosen a wrong option in the xconfig somewhere...how do i get back to that utility? |
| 20:59.05 | dragonfly | i already tried base-config and that didn't get me there |
| 20:59.15 | keith80403 | marco13185, type "dmesg" at a prompt |
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| 20:59.17 | abrotman | unfo: that software .. no .. but most of the backend stuff is linux |
| 20:59.23 | abrotman | _Sam--: mostly admin .. and some programming |
| 20:59.47 | _Sam-- | its a client server type app where clients connect back to your office at KoP? |
| 20:59.54 | abrotman | unfo: almost every server i've put in since starting runs Debian .. |
| 20:59.54 | marco13185 | keith80403, no, the part during which all the services and modules load |
| 20:59.56 | marco13185 | like alsa and gdm |
| 21:00.07 | marco13185 | I'm getting some errors there, and I need to look at them |
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| 21:00.11 | abrotman | _Sam--: no .. it's a client server app .. other companies buy it .. we do custom programming for it |
| 21:00.33 | unfo | yassine: i am not sure if http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=cologne+germany+%22linux+user+OR+group%22+OR+lug returns any LUGs but it mentions LinuxWorld Expo is coming to cologne in November. odd. |
| 21:00.46 | _Sam-- | what realm of the business world does it fit in? CRM? |
| 21:00.55 | abrotman | Finance |
| 21:00.59 | robin__sz | yeuw |
| 21:01.02 | unfo | abrotman: what does the app do? |
| 21:01.09 | _Sam-- | robin__sz : hows them GXPs? |
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| 21:01.22 | neurocyte | lord_rob, what does "hdparm -I /dev/hda" say? |
| 21:01.33 | robin__sz | _Sam--, better. the last software revision worked pretty well |
| 21:01.35 | yassine | unfo, i found a lUG here |
| 21:01.54 | lord_rob | neurocyte: you mean sda ? I have no hda |
| 21:01.55 | unfo | yassine: cool. they can help you quicker. but anyway... do you know how to create a user? |
| 21:02.06 | _Sam-- | your display is fixed? if i remember right, you had the problem withg the displays |
| 21:02.10 | neurocyte | lord_rob, yes, sda |
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| 21:02.23 | neurocyte | lord_rob, /dev/sda is the dvd drive right? |
| 21:02.57 | abrotman | unfo: bunch of financial crap .. large companies use it |
| 21:03.37 | lord_rob | neurocyte: http://paste.lisp.org/display/20641 |
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| 21:03.47 | lord_rob | neurocyte: no it's the hard disk |
| 21:03.55 | jair | how can I reconfigure the XF86config-4 using dpkg??? |
| 21:03.59 | unfo | abrotman: I am still curious about what it does. :) |
| 21:04.00 | lord_rob | neurocyte: cdrom should be /dev/sr0 |
| 21:04.17 | _Sam-- | unfo : he could tell you, but you 'd have to pay the licensing fee and sign an NDA |
| 21:04.17 | jair | I am trying with the dpkg but it is not saving the changes I am doing for some reason? |
| 21:04.19 | stoned | i need to remove a kernel module but it is in use right now, how do I kill it so that I can remove it |
| 21:04.36 | stoned | modprobe -r returns fatal error module in use |
| 21:04.39 | simonrvn | dpkg does nothing of the sort |
| 21:05.04 | unfo | jair: tell the channel why you are trying to reconfigure X. |
| 21:05.13 | lord_rob | neurocyte: yes it works !!! thanks a lot |
| 21:05.15 | jair | anyone here have have the oportunity of reconfigure X-window-system? |
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| 21:05.25 | lord_rob | neurocyte: problem is solved |
| 21:05.28 | stoned | anyone |
| 21:05.38 | neurocyte | lord_rob, ah, cool, how? |
| 21:05.38 | _Sam-- | i dont use x at all, but isnt there like dpkg x-something reconfigure |
| 21:05.39 | simonrvn | stop asking f anyone has done it and start asking your real question, please |
| 21:05.51 | stoned | simonrvn, has anyone done it |
| 21:05.52 | stoned | ;) |
| 21:06.04 | jair | unfo: because when I am trying to boot to the gdm greater it is not displaying well it looks like the current configuration is not the best one. |
| 21:06.07 | robin__sz | _Sam--, yeah, mostly fixed .. think it blanked once |
| 21:06.15 | _Sam-- | liek dpkg-reconfigure xserver |
| 21:06.17 | stoned | but for real though, how do you remove a running/in use kernel module |
| 21:06.19 | unfo | jair: it is not displaying well?? |
| 21:06.24 | jair | unfo: so I need to change it in order to make it work. |
| 21:06.37 | unfo | jair: what looks wrong? |
| 21:06.40 | jair | unfo: actully it does not display at all. |
| 21:06.43 | neurocyte | Is anyone here using xgl on debian sid? |
| 21:06.44 | robin__sz | _Sam--, apparently even on those phoens that blank a lot (some still do it seems) presseign the "mute" button brings it back |
| 21:06.44 | lord_rob | neurocyte: to be honest I was very stupid, the cdrom in the drive was an empty cdr, hence the error :/. But the steps you told me first were necessary |
| 21:06.58 | unfo | jair: does X start at all? |
| 21:07.00 | Maulkin | !drxx |
| 21:07.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 21:07.01 | robin__sz | _Sam--, overall, im pleased its pretty close to ow it should be |
| 21:07.06 | neurocyte | lord_rob, lol |
| 21:07.25 | jair | it is not supporting the color depth or the resolution, I has been trying to reconfigure it again but the dpkg command is not saving the changes I am applying. |
| 21:07.35 | lord_rob | neurocyte: maybe even putting the option in /etc/modules was good also :/ |
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| 21:07.40 | jair | unfo: x attempt to start. |
| 21:07.51 | unfo | jair: and? |
| 21:07.58 | _Sam-- | robin__sz : you got the latest version where if you press the mute/del key during an incoming call, it sends them to voicemail? |
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| 21:08.11 | _Sam-- | <i cant keep version #'s straight? |
| 21:08.13 | _Sam-- | > |
| 21:08.15 | neurocyte | lord_rob, I don't think so, /etc/modules would be useful for modules that weren't auto loaded |
| 21:08.32 | robin__sz | _Sam--, mmm .. latest version yes, not tried that particular feature though |
| 21:08.38 | unfo | stoned: maybe stopping some services would help you? dunno. what module? |
| 21:08.48 | stoned | cdemu |
| 21:08.56 | _Sam-- | robin__sz : are you a regular on this channel too, or you here today with a problem? |
| 21:09.00 | stoned | i compiled and simply modprobed it and i dont want to restart |
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| 21:09.02 | freeone3000 | apt-file list tomcat5 shows that there are .policy files. However, a cd to where they're supposed to be, a ls -A, nothing. Any possible explaination? |
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| 21:09.06 | neurocyte | Does anyone know of a repository with Xgl packages for debian sid? |
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| 21:09.29 | unfo | neurocyte: try: wajig unofficial xgl |
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| 21:09.36 | robin__sz | _Sam--, no I am very regular on here ... hey, ive even been banned by dondelelcaro , you dont get much more regular than that! ;) |
| 21:09.43 | neurocyte | unfo, ta |
| 21:09.43 | paulsen | Does anyone here use netatalk on linux? I am having some authentication issues.. |
| 21:09.48 | unfo | neurocyte: "ta"? |
| 21:09.56 | unfo | !tell paulsen about ask |
| 21:09.58 | paulsen | on debian rather |
| 21:10.00 | unfo | paulsen: :) |
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| 21:10.04 | neurocyte | unfo, short for thanks |
| 21:10.14 | unfo | neurocyte: np. |
| 21:10.14 | _Sam-- | robin__sz : if thats the case, being banned by the man,...i think i was getting close and i had only spent a few minutes here :) |
| 21:10.19 | marco13185 | whenever my services start (such as gdm) I get this error: Fake Startup-daemon Called, doing nothing. |
| 21:10.27 | marco13185 | why is this? |
| 21:10.29 | paulsen | unfo: the problem is quite a long writing, it would be nice to find someone to chat with right away.. |
| 21:10.32 | marco13185 | and how do I fix it |
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| 21:10.35 | toshiro | how can i stop a inetd listen on port 21? |
| 21:10.35 | unfo | paulsen: summarize. :) |
| 21:10.42 | paulsen | Ok. |
| 21:10.52 | robin__sz | _Sam--, normally I keep quite unless I have a problem, its nto a social channel unlike #asterisk and #emc |
| 21:10.55 | Le_Vert | <unfo> neurocyte: try: wajig unofficial xgl < what is it ? |
| 21:11.03 | unfo | !wajig |
| 21:11.25 | Le_Vert | bot is dead |
| 21:11.26 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro : if it makes you feel any better (i know it doesnt, and it makes me feel worse)...i just did apt-get and let it do what it wanted. |
| 21:11.26 | Le_Vert | hehe |
| 21:11.31 | paulsen | The netatalk package thats in apt seems to be missing the UAX module to provide 128bit encryption and authentication, is there a option to make apt include that buildoption or do I need to compile netatalk my self? |
| 21:11.35 | lord_rob | @wajig |
| 21:11.42 | unfo | !wajig is <reply> packages into one tool many commands useful for managing a Debian system. Instead of having to remember whether to use dpkg or apt-get or apt-cache, etc, wajig does the selection of the appropriate tool for you. |
| 21:11.42 | dpkg | unfo: okay |
| 21:12.19 | freeone3000 | apt-file list tomcat5 shows that there are .policy files. However, a cd to where they're supposed to be, a ls -A, nothing. Any possible explaination? |
| 21:12.22 | stoned | argh |
| 21:12.24 | stoned | i got it |
| 21:12.30 | stoned | had to cdemu --unload 0 |
| 21:12.38 | stoned | etc. then i removed the module |
| 21:12.44 | Supaplex | I've only seen this error about dpkg/aptitude once before http://supaplex.aros.net/b0ked-dpkg.txt any indication as to how I can remedy this? |
| 21:13.02 | paulsen | unfo: any suggestion then? |
| 21:13.03 | unfo | Supaplex: what is the last line of the error? |
| 21:13.07 | stoned | cdemu gives me errors and nothing i do will make it work. I want to mount a bin/cue cd image, google only returned cdemu, is there another way to mount those images? |
| 21:13.20 | marco13185 | whenever my services start (such as gdm) I get this error: Fake Startup-daemon Called, doing nothing. |
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| 21:13.39 | lord_rob | stoned: isn't it possible to convert your bin/cue to iso ? |
| 21:13.41 | unfo | paulsen: I have never used netatalk. Try: apt-get source netatalk && cd netatalk && vim debian/rules |
| 21:13.52 | unfo | paulsen: add the option, then do debian/rules binary to build. |
| 21:13.59 | stoned | lord_rob, I tried, but it won't mount as iso660, it just gives an error about wrong fs type |
| 21:14.12 | stoned | lord_rob, I used bchunk blah.bin blah.cue blah |
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| 21:14.45 | stoned | btw, when I convert to iso, the 800mb bin gets reduced to 600mb iso |
| 21:15.03 | paulsen | ##FIXME: Other changes are needed, like enabling DHX plugin |
| 21:15.05 | paulsen | :( |
| 21:15.10 | Supaplex | unfo: E: I wasn't able to locate file for the xserver-xfree86 package. This might me(an?) you need to manually fix this package. E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? |
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| 21:15.17 | CrocoJet | why vmware is so ... slowly ? |
| 21:15.26 | stoned | CrocoJet, its virtualized thats why |
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| 21:15.32 | unfo | Supaplex: are you root? :) |
| 21:15.35 | marco13185 | CrocoJet, once you install the OS on the VM, use VMware tools |
| 21:15.36 | Supaplex | yes |
| 21:15.36 | CrocoJet | it is terrible !!! |
| 21:15.47 | stoned | CrocoJet, colinux |
| 21:15.48 | unfo | Supaplex: is aptitude already running elsewhere? or synaptic? |
| 21:15.49 | thingfish | CrocoJet: how much ram do you have? |
| 21:15.54 | ryan` | can you specify a screen in an X config that is an X server running on a remote machine? |
| 21:15.55 | CrocoJet | 510Mb |
| 21:15.57 | unfo | marco13185++ |
| 21:16.01 | Supaplex | I recently rebooted, but I'll double check |
| 21:16.04 | lord_rob | stoned: raw cd sector is 2352 bytes, iso cd sector is 2048 bytes (no error detection/correction codes) hence the difference |
| 21:16.13 | thingfish | CrocoJet: not a lot, but shouldn't be a problem. |
| 21:16.22 | CrocoJet | ok |
| 21:16.23 | stoned | lord_rob, that huge of a diff damn |
| 21:16.33 | Supaplex | no instances of synaptic or aptitude running. |
| 21:16.34 | haypo | hi! i would like to know if a DD can take a look of Wormux game package |
| 21:16.34 | CrocoJet | well .. going to un-install |
| 21:16.40 | stoned | lord_rob, so about the mounting, I could always burn it, but i have no blank cds |
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| 21:16.47 | haypo | Wormux website: http://www.wormux.org/ (clone of Worms game) |
| 21:16.54 | unfo | !itp |
| 21:16.54 | dpkg | itp is, like, Intent To Package |
| 21:16.56 | unfo | !wnpp |
| 21:16.57 | dpkg | i heard wnpp is Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list, at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/, or if you miss a package in debian, use the WNPP to request it. |
| 21:17.02 | haypo | Debian packages already exist |
| 21:17.15 | unfo | haypo: so ask your question. :) |
| 21:17.35 | marco13185 | whenever my services start (such as gdm) I get this error: Fake Startup-daemon Called, doing nothing. |
| 21:17.43 | haypo | unfo: i would like to see Wormux in unstable |
| 21:17.46 | unfo | marco13185: so what? |
| 21:17.53 | Maulkin | !repeat |
| 21:17.53 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:17.53 | marco13185 | unfo, nothing starts |
| 21:17.57 | haypo | unfo: don't know what it the right question ... |
| 21:18.04 | stoned | lord_rob, so I do cdemu 0 image.cue > and it gives no errors. Then I do mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdemu/0 /blah and it gives an error about wrong fs type. On the doc, it says to use iso9660 fs type. Image is reliable, I know that. Am I missing/doing something wrong. also mplayer /dev/cdemu/0 won't play, it tries to read but errors out. |
| 21:18.09 | unfo | marco13185: ooh. dunno. |
| 21:18.17 | marco13185 | and alsa seems to not be working |
| 21:18.33 | abrotman | unfo: remind me another time .. i'll explain it to you |
| 21:18.40 | lord_rob | stoned: I don't know cdemu so i can't help you sorry |
| 21:18.43 | unfo | abrotman: his message? |
| 21:18.47 | stoned | thanks though |
| 21:18.47 | unfo | or the financial? |
| 21:18.51 | stoned | lord_rob, I appreciate it |
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| 21:18.56 | abrotman | unfo: about what the application does .. |
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| 21:19.10 | rdz | hi all |
| 21:19.20 | lord_rob | good night people |
| 21:19.28 | unfo | abrotman: ok, or i could email you instead if you prefer. |
| 21:19.41 | haypo | unfo: a request already exists http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352064 |
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| 21:19.54 | abrotman | unfo: nah .. i'm just getting ready to head home .. another time .. i'll explain it |
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| 21:20.00 | unfo | abrotman: ok. |
| 21:20.02 | rdz | i have a problem, probably with rgb.txt. i cannot start pd anymore, it gives me the error: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black" |
| 21:20.18 | unfo | haypo: http://download.gna.org/wormux/package/debian is a broken link. |
| 21:20.31 | rdz | the same whe i do: xterm -bg black |
| 21:20.35 | lazzarello | how might I configure debian to understand hashes in the blofish format? |
| 21:20.43 | beardy | rdz: Did it work before? |
| 21:20.43 | haypo | unfo: look at http://download.gna.org/wormux/debs/ |
| 21:20.51 | lazzarello | password hashes, that is. |
| 21:20.51 | beardy | rdz: Have you touched rgb.txt? |
| 21:20.52 | rdz | it says: Warning: Color name "black" is not defined |
| 21:21.08 | rdz | yes, it worked before. i didn't touch it myself |
| 21:21.09 | haypo | unfo: we have package for sid, sarge, dapper, breezy, etc. (with AMD64 binary packages) |
| 21:21.14 | beardy | rdz: Is rgb.txt still there? |
| 21:21.14 | peterS | rdz: if you are using unstable, make sure you have been upgrading the x11-common package properly |
| 21:21.19 | nkircthree | can anyone tell me how to make this installer thing work from a live system/bootloader ??.. i keep trying to follow the guide and it doesn't do it? |
| 21:21.26 | unfo | haypo: ok, are you one of the wormux developers? |
| 21:21.28 | rdz | i just upgradeed from ubuntu breezy to dapper |
| 21:21.36 | haypo | unfo: yes |
| 21:21.37 | peterS | rdz: wtf are you asking us for? |
| 21:21.38 | unfo | rdz: wrong channel |
| 21:21.49 | rdz | yo, sorry... |
| 21:21.50 | beardy | rdz: Then please /join #ubuntu and ask there, this is #debian. |
| 21:21.50 | rdz | ciao |
| 21:21.57 | unfo | haypo: sorry, i misunderstood you. in #debian-devel they can help you more. |
| 21:21.57 | beardy | rdz: Good luck. |
| 21:22.20 | haypo | unfo: maybe, don't know Debian IRC channels very well ... ok, /join #debian-devel |
| 21:22.28 | unfo | rdz: try debian sometime, you'll like it :) |
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| 21:22.41 | unfo | nkircthree: g-i? |
| 21:22.44 | unfo | !g-i |
| 21:22.45 | dpkg | hmm... g-i is the new Debian graphical installer. Try it! Simply download and boot the latest daily from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ then type the word installgui at the boot prompt. Note: do not use etch beta2, use a daily. |
| 21:22.50 | rdz | unfo, i have debian to, but only as a server |
| 21:23.03 | unfo | rdz: why not on your desktop? :) |
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| 21:23.21 | rdz | because i'm not that fit already in linux. |
| 21:23.25 | Supaplex | I had to remove xserver-xfree86 from the status and reinstall. so far so good... |
| 21:23.36 | rdz | unfo, there are many things i don't know how to setup yet.... |
| 21:24.00 | marco13185 | rdz, when I installed Debian about a month ago, I had only had like a few days experience with linux |
| 21:24.05 | beardy | rdz: You'll learn, how else should you learn, if not trying, and learning? |
| 21:24.07 | marco13185 | Debian is a pretty straightforward distro |
| 21:24.26 | marco13185 | sure, you might run into problems, but you have a channel with 834 people to help |
| 21:24.27 | rdz | beardy, i'm also learning quite alot with ubuntu...:-) |
| 21:24.28 | nkircthree | ok. |
| 21:24.28 | nkircthree | i'll try g-i then.. thanks unfo |
| 21:24.42 | beardy | rdz: Yeah, I don't doubt that. |
| 21:24.50 | marco13185 | ubuntu holds your hand |
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| 21:25.01 | marco13185 | it even jacks off for you :/ |
| 21:25.06 | Supaplex | I'm still stuck with a empty blue screen while following [setup x]. |
| 21:25.07 | rdz | marco13185, hehe |
| 21:25.17 | CrocoJet | one question: I made install vmware via rpm ... is possible remove all via prm command ? |
| 21:25.25 | rdz | on a laptop there so many things more that have to wokr properly....... |
| 21:25.31 | CrocoJet | prm = rpm |
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| 21:25.49 | Maulkin | CrocoJet: we're unlikely to knw the intamacies of rpms. |
| 21:25.52 | rdz | but i really like running debian on my other computer.. |
| 21:26.04 | beardy | rdz: well, it works just as fine in Debian, and now look what they did to your rgb.txt.. |
| 21:26.06 | CrocoJet | oh ok |
| 21:26.32 | rdz | beardy, haha you don't know what troubles ihad someetimes with debian..... |
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| 21:26.43 | jolly_ | gah |
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| 21:26.51 | Obstfliege | hi |
| 21:26.52 | unfo | rdz: did you ask for help on IRC at the time? |
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| 21:26.53 | rdz | but i don't wanne judge for one or the other... |
| 21:26.55 | unfo | Obstfliege: hi |
| 21:27.02 | Maulkin | rdz: They're on a mission to convert you now :) |
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| 21:27.04 | jolly_ | How do you mount a freebsd partion? |
| 21:27.05 | Obstfliege | one short question: unstable = sarge ? |
| 21:27.12 | jolly_ | i get errors all the way:/ |
| 21:27.15 | jolly_ | nothing works |
| 21:27.16 | beardy | Maulkin: Who is? |
| 21:27.18 | Obstfliege | i need the newest Debian Sarge DVD |
| 21:27.23 | rdz | Maulkin, there is no need to convert me, since i'm running both... |
| 21:27.26 | rdz | :-) |
| 21:27.27 | unfo | jolly_: you always must tell us what errors, else we cannot help you. |
| 21:27.34 | unfo | Obstfliege: I do too. |
| 21:27.38 | jolly_ | unfo where can i paste it? |
| 21:28.00 | unfo | Obstfliege: at www.ebay.com you can buy it, or support Debian and buy it from us. jolly_: see topic |
| 21:28.04 | nkircthree | unfo this seems a little different than what i was looking for |
| 21:28.10 | unfo | nkircthree: ? |
| 21:28.10 | beardy | jolly_: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 21:28.19 | Obstfliege | unfo: i want to download it |
| 21:28.28 | unfo | Obstfliege: www.debian.org/download |
| 21:28.32 | nkircthree | unfo this g-i thing ? i just want to get the base system and dselect and stuff ? |
| 21:28.45 | unfo | g-i is great. |
| 21:28.49 | Obstfliege | unfo: but which? testing / unstable? |
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| 21:28.59 | unfo | Obstfliege: do not use unstable. |
| 21:29.00 | Obstfliege | unfo: i think unstable right? |
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| 21:29.06 | nkircthree | unfo well .. i'm not getting it to work ? |
| 21:29.07 | Obstfliege | hmm |
| 21:29.08 | Maulkin | Obstfliege: no, unstable = sid. Sarge is the latest stable release |
| 21:29.10 | unfo | Obstfliege: do not even use testing either. Use Stable. |
| 21:29.15 | kspath | Surfer28: spammer? |
| 21:29.21 | jolly_ | unfo http://channels.debian.net/paste/2683. |
| 21:29.22 | Obstfliege | ok |
| 21:29.30 | unfo | nkircthree: |
| 21:29.31 | unfo | !g-i |
| 21:29.31 | dpkg | methinks g-i is the new Debian graphical installer. Try it! Simply download and boot the latest daily from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ then type the word installgui at the boot prompt. Note: do not use etch beta2, use a daily. |
| 21:29.32 | beardy | unfo: Stop telling people to run testing/unstable/or beta graphical installers, please. |
| 21:29.33 | Obstfliege | *searching* |
| 21:29.33 | unfo | tried it? |
| 21:29.34 | jolly_ | i have tried almost everything :( |
| 21:29.42 | nkircthree | unfo and after going to that site, it sends you to the wiki |
| 21:29.45 | unfo | beardy: point. /me sighs |
| 21:29.48 | jolly_ | even som linux experts tried to give me some tips but with no luck |
| 21:29.53 | unfo | nkircthree: use the classic installer then. |
| 21:30.06 | nkircthree | unfo that's the one that i was trying to use before .. |
| 21:30.10 | nkircthree | i think |
| 21:30.26 | unfo | jolly_: dmesg | tail |
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| 21:30.35 | beardy | !d-i nkircthree |
| 21:30.35 | dpkg | nkircthree, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:30.53 | beardy | jolly_: ANd what did these "linux experts" say? |
| 21:30.57 | stoned | people piss me off sometimes |
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| 21:31.08 | stoned | just moronic shit they do for no reason at all |
| 21:31.09 | nkircthree | dpkg ok .. i'll give that one a try |
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| 21:31.32 | beardy | stoned: Why on earth why? Never happened to me. |
| 21:31.37 | jolly_ | unfo http://channels.debian.net/paste/2685 |
| 21:31.37 | stoned | lol |
| 21:31.39 | unfo | jolly_: ufstype=44bsd gets 2 google hits. Two! That's not much. Are you sure it is right? I am not. |
| 21:32.00 | jolly_ | unfo no iam not sure ifs right i have tried many types:( |
| 21:32.02 | jolly_ | with no luck |
| 21:32.02 | nkircthree | beardy oh .. i should've thanked you , not dpkg |
| 21:32.29 | unfo | all: ufs_read_super: bad magic number ... later: ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write |
| 21:32.36 | unfo | jolly_: file -s /dev/hd* |
| 21:32.37 | beardy | nkircthree: No problem, you're welcome. :) |
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| 21:32.45 | nkircthree | beardy um it looks like that gives installer images... i was trying to install from a running system ? thanks though |
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| 21:33.05 | jolly_ | unfo http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 21:33.07 | beardy | nkircthree: What are you running at the moment? |
| 21:33.08 | jolly_ | ops |
| 21:33.10 | unfo | nkircthree: install from a running system? why? |
| 21:33.18 | jolly_ | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2686 |
| 21:33.48 | nkircthree | unfo because i don't have a cd burner , my cd rom drive rejected the last 3 cds from a school linux lab, i can't boot usb keychain, and don't have a floppy drive |
| 21:33.58 | unfo | nkircthree: netinstall? |
| 21:34.03 | beardy | !rube goldberg install |
| 21:34.04 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 21:34.07 | beardy | ;) |
| 21:34.10 | unfo | beardy++ :) |
| 21:34.16 | nkircthree | beardy hmn. |
| 21:34.24 | nkircthree | beardy i don't even have a paralell port |
| 21:34.34 | stoned | nkircthree, you can boot the netinstaller kernel/initrd from already running OS |
| 21:34.40 | nkircthree | right now its got 2.6.8.1 on it |
| 21:34.43 | nkircthree | stoned ok good |
| 21:34.47 | nkircthree | that's what i want to do then . |
| 21:34.48 | unfo | beardy: you need to change the dip switches on your punch card reader to set up EBCDIC<==>ASCII conversion. :) |
| 21:34.53 | stoned | nkircthree, read the Debian installatio manual |
| 21:35.04 | nkircthree | unfo i hate universal alphabet 5 :( .. let me try this net thing first |
| 21:35.07 | beardy | nkircthree: At what speed did you burn those discs? |
| 21:35.17 | nkircthree | stoned ok i'll start downloading the netinstall image first i guess? |
| 21:35.22 | jolly_ | unfo did you see the strange errors?:/ |
| 21:35.22 | unfo | nkircthree: did you md5 the downloaded .isos? |
| 21:35.29 | unfo | jolly_: no |
| 21:35.36 | unfo | jolly_: link? |
| 21:35.40 | nkircthree | beardy one at 8, one at max, and one at 4.. i didnt burn them, this computer science major at the linux lab did |
| 21:35.42 | stoned | nkircthree, you don't even have to download the netinstall image |
| 21:35.49 | jolly_ | unfo http://channels.debian.net/paste/2686 |
| 21:35.54 | Xelion | does anybody know how to use one mouse/keyboard/monitor for multiple computers? |
| 21:35.59 | nkircthree | he also was able to toss them frisbee style after they didnt work.. |
| 21:36.13 | beardy | nkircthree: nkircthree Yes, download the netinstaller, and burn it slowly. Well, burn them yourself, if he failed three times I wouldn't trust his discs.. |
| 21:36.18 | nkircthree | stoned ok .. i won't download it, i'll try to find the right part of the guide |
| 21:36.23 | unfo | jolly_: what command are you using to mount the partition? |
| 21:36.23 | nkircthree | beardy , they were my discs |
| 21:36.32 | beardy | nkircthree: He burned them. |
| 21:36.39 | nkircthree | beardy they were my blanc cds |
| 21:36.40 | unfo | nkircthree: or you can buy better ones off ebay. |
| 21:36.41 | stoned | nkircthree, do you want sarge or testing/unstable |
| 21:36.48 | nkircthree | stoned i probably want sarge |
| 21:36.49 | unfo | stoned: he wants stable! |
| 21:36.51 | stoned | nkircthree, probably sarge |
| 21:36.57 | jolly_ | unfo i have tried many commands but the last one was mount -t ufs /dev/hdb1p4 /mnt/ |
| 21:36.59 | beardy | nkircthree: Perhaps your cd-reader doesn't like that brand/kind of discs? |
| 21:37.11 | MatBoy | VmWare can't still find the headers in /usr/src/linux. Other options ? |
| 21:37.11 | unfo | jolly_: /dev/hdb1p4???? |
| 21:37.13 | nkircthree | beardy that's what the cs guy said.. something about the edges being the wrong color |
| 21:37.38 | crazy_penguin | good night everybody ! pleasent dreams ! :) |
| 21:37.45 | unfo | crazy_penguin: u too |
| 21:37.51 | jolly_ | unfo he yeah some experts told me to to alot of things |
| 21:37.55 | jolly_ | unfo like: [23:16] <@Knuta> mknod /dev/hdb1p4 b 22 3 |
| 21:38.01 | unfo | jolly_: nuts. |
| 21:38.05 | jolly_ | :/ |
| 21:38.09 | nkircthree | stoned ok i'm in the handbook, it's under one of the installation medium sections ? |
| 21:38.11 | unfo | jolly_: who told you that? what channel? |
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| 21:38.14 | stoned | nkircthree, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ <-- go under /2.6/ for obviously a 2.6 kernel. Download initrd.gz and linux. Copy them to / then modify /boot/grub/menu.lst as per installatio manual |
| 21:38.19 | jolly_ | unfo on undernet #linux.no |
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| 21:38.22 | jolly_ | an op told me to do so |
| 21:38.27 | jolly_ | and alot of other things too |
| 21:38.32 | beardy | nkircthree: Eh, well. Try with the ones you have first, and burn them at 1x or 2x then. If that doesn't work, try another kind of discs, burned slow. |
| 21:38.49 | stoned | nkircthree, look for section concerning booting the debian installer something |
| 21:38.50 | nkircthree | beardy i don't have a cd burner or i'd try all sorts |
| 21:38.54 | dondelelcaro | jolly_: what is this thing you're trying to mount? |
| 21:39.00 | jolly_ | unfo : [22:53] <@Knuta> /dev/MAKEDEV /dev/hdb1p4 |
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| 21:39.01 | nkircthree | stoned it says i can install from an already running system ? |
| 21:39.03 | nkircthree | that one ? |
| 21:39.04 | beardy | nkircthree: Have you been able to boot with any disc in your reader? |
| 21:39.08 | nkircthree | that's the one i tried earlier :/ |
| 21:39.12 | jolly_ | dondelelcaro a freebsd partion on my debian computer |
| 21:39.17 | jolly_ | so i can get my data out |
| 21:39.17 | nkircthree | beardy yes, several, including the oem cds |
| 21:39.38 | beardy | nkircthree: A burner is not expensive though. |
| 21:39.50 | dondelelcaro | jolly_: and where is the partition? |
| 21:39.55 | dondelelcaro | jolly_: what filesystem is it using? |
| 21:40.02 | jolly_ | ufs i suppose :) |
| 21:40.10 | jolly_ | /dev/hdb1 |
| 21:40.16 | stoned | nkircthree, section 4.5 of the install manual *(I think)* |
| 21:40.22 | jolly_ | is the info i got from fdisk -l |
| 21:40.24 | unfo | /dev/hdb1: x86 boot sector; partition 4: ID=0xa5, active, starthead 0, startsector 0, 50000 sectors |
| 21:40.27 | unfo | , code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x |
| 21:40.30 | unfo | 1f), BSD disklabel |
| 21:40.33 | nkircthree | stoned ok i'll keep at it |
| 21:40.36 | unfo | jolly_: correct? |
| 21:40.39 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 21:40.41 | neurocyte | jolly_, you need bsddisklabel support in your kernel |
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| 21:40.43 | dondelelcaro | jolly_: so why are you ussing /dev/hdb1p4? just mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/bar; |
| 21:40.45 | stoned | yup |
| 21:40.46 | stoned | thats it |
| 21:40.48 | stoned | nkircthree, thats it |
| 21:40.55 | stoned | nkircthree, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en |
| 21:40.56 | jolly_ | neurocyte how do i get that? |
| 21:41.02 | unfo | jolly_: and you were getting ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write correct? |
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| 21:41.12 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 21:41.18 | nkircthree | stoned this one just tells me to try this deboostrap method again? |
| 21:41.24 | jolly_ | unfo but read-only support is more than OKAY :) |
| 21:41.33 | jolly_ | I just want to get the disk mounted and get out my data |
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| 21:41.39 | stoned | nkircthree, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd |
| 21:41.40 | unfo | jolly_: you were trying to mount read-write. |
| 21:41.48 | stoned | nkircthree, its pretty self explanatory if you read |
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| 21:41.56 | unfo | stoned: nkircthree is new to Debian. |
| 21:42.10 | unfo | these things can be hard for newbies. |
| 21:42.11 | jolly_ | unfo yeah saw but i dont know how to mount it in read-only mode :/ |
| 21:42.15 | nkircthree | stoned initrd eh .. ok that's a different section let me move to that |
| 21:42.15 | unfo | jolly_: -o ro |
| 21:42.35 | stoned | unfo, our job is to point in the right direction, not spoonfeed, and its not even a job, its volunteer work |
| 21:42.41 | jolly_ | so it would be mount /dev/hdb1 -o /mnt? |
| 21:42.44 | unfo | stoned: i know |
| 21:42.47 | unfo | jolly_: no |
| 21:42.55 | jolly_ | hmm |
| 21:43.11 | Seb | sup y'all |
| 21:43.14 | unfo | hi |
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| 21:43.32 | stoned | nkircthree, basically you make another entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst that will boot using the netinstall kernel/initrd I gave you the link for. That kernel+initrd will launch the debian installer, and everything else will be fetched from online |
| 21:43.35 | beardy | stoned: If he wants to, let him, it doesn't hurt you, and he'll get tired after a while. |
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| 21:43.58 | unfo | beardy: true |
| 21:43.59 | neurocyte | jolly_, are you running a custom kernel? |
| 21:44.05 | jolly_ | neurocyte yeah |
| 21:44.10 | stoned | beardy, word |
| 21:44.30 | jolly_ | or i dont know i just installed debian testing with kernel 2.6.15-1-486 |
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| 21:44.34 | hunterp_ | hi. im having tz configuration problems, my /etc/timezone is US/Mountain so look at this: http://pastebin.com/747855 that short paste is very explanatory. |
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| 21:45.06 | nkircthree | stoned ok ... so i need to download the installer first, right? |
| 21:45.27 | neurocyte | jolly_, add BSD Disklabel support to your config in "File Systems->Partition Types->BSD Disklabel" |
| 21:45.34 | ProphetPX | hello? |
| 21:45.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell R_engel -about away |
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| 21:45.48 | stoned | nkircthree, read the 4.5 section of install guide, THOROUGLY. Then use the link I gave you to download the initrd.gz/linux files |
| 21:45.48 | nkircthree | stoned do i need to also make sure i have the modules for my network card? |
| 21:45.55 | ProphetPX | wtf hello |
| 21:45.55 | stoned | nkircthree, no |
| 21:46.01 | nkircthree | stoned ok, thanks |
| 21:46.02 | neurocyte | jolly_, if you're running a debian standard kernel it should be supported |
| 21:46.03 | ProphetPX | oh there i am lol |
| 21:46.16 | stoned | nkircthree, but DO make sure you know your network config, DNS servers, IP etc. |
| 21:46.21 | nkircthree | k |
| 21:46.23 | nkircthree | i know that. |
| 21:46.23 | ProphetPX | hello all |
| 21:46.35 | stoned | ProphetPX, immagine 800+ people saying hello |
| 21:46.35 | ProphetPX | :-) new here |
| 21:46.36 | nkircthree | ProphetPX: hi?. |
| 21:46.42 | jimmiehansson | Anybody have any idea how to fix a broken libc6 (including dev) install without breaking the system? I had to purge a drowngrade since there was a major bug in the version i was running, however it broke very essentials packages |
| 21:46.45 | stoned | ProphetPX, ask your question and stuff |
| 21:46.50 | jolly_ | neurocyte: |
| 21:46.51 | jolly_ | # Partition Types |
| 21:46.51 | jolly_ | # |
| 21:46.51 | jolly_ | CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED=y |
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| 21:46.55 | ProphetPX | hi, i wasnt sure anyone could see what i typed. First time using BitchX in a long time |
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| 21:47.00 | jolly_ | under there? |
| 21:47.03 | stoned | ProphetPX, word |
| 21:47.09 | ProphetPX | how do i stop iptables from messing up my screen lol |
| 21:47.09 | stoned | im gonna smoke a bowl |
| 21:47.10 | nkircthree | stoned that way doesn';t look like it'll work for me, but thanks.. |
| 21:47.19 | jolly_ | neurocyte its alerady there |
| 21:47.20 | jolly_ | :( |
| 21:47.22 | jolly_ | CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL=y |
| 21:47.25 | ProphetPX | its putting gunk in the way of my text |
| 21:47.37 | ProphetPX | it's own gunk ... reports of each packet, etc... |
| 21:47.41 | neurocyte | jolly_, bummer, it should work then |
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| 21:47.51 | jolly_ | what mount command should i try? |
| 21:47.54 | unfo | ProphetPX: I use IRSSI. |
| 21:47.58 | stoned | nkircthree, its actually quite easy, just take it easy and read. if your cd rom won't work and you can't boto from usb, that is pretty much your only option, unless you want to boot from network, which is I think you can't do if you can't make netinstall work |
| 21:47.59 | neurocyte | jolly_, what was the device name under freebsd? |
| 21:48.00 | ProphetPX | hmm |
| 21:48.08 | jolly_ | hdb1 |
| 21:48.15 | jolly_ | thats the info i got from fdisk -l |
| 21:48.28 | ProphetPX | also, what is the package name for pine? I tried mutt, i dont like it yet |
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| 21:48.36 | jolly_ | /dev/hdb1 * 1 24792 199141708+ a5 FreeBSD |
| 21:48.37 | zinosat | how do I see the content of initrd.gz ? |
| 21:48.48 | stoned | pine, omg, oldschool, I remember pine in the computer lab in 8th grade, 11 years ago |
| 21:48.49 | stoned | hehe |
| 21:48.51 | neurocyte | jolly_, no, that's the partition, what bsd slice? |
| 21:48.53 | ProphetPX | LOL |
| 21:48.57 | beardy | ProphetPX: It's not available as a binary package, due to it's licensing. |
| 21:48.58 | unfo | pine is non-free. |
| 21:49.00 | ProphetPX | well hey i am used to it ... |
| 21:49.01 | beardy | !ine |
| 21:49.03 | beardy | !pine |
| 21:49.03 | dpkg | pine: a non-DFSG-free (read: evil!) POP3, IMAP, and USENET reader; modified binaries are illegal to distribute. Alternatives include elm, mutt, spruce, sylpheed, balsa, and many other FREE readers. binaries are not included in Debian because of licensing problems. To get pine debs: apt-get -b source pine (or pine4) or if you just want pico, ask about "nano", or there MAY be additional help in #pine |
| 21:49.07 | ProphetPX | ah ... well ok where do i find it then |
| 21:49.13 | ProphetPX | oh wow .... neat |
| 21:49.15 | jolly_ | neurocyte oh , i dont know where do i find that? |
| 21:49.22 | jolly_ | in /proc/partions? |
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| 21:49.54 | Seb | how do I define what cutchars a screen terminal is using ? I defined Aterm.cutchars but it works only if I run a shell in my aterm, not a screen session, so I'm thinking screen must be using something of its own ? |
| 21:49.57 | jolly_ | 3 65 199141708 hdb1 |
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| 21:50.02 | dondelelcaro | ProphetPX: you probably also should consider learning mutt intsead |
| 21:50.03 | neurocyte | jolly_, in your fstab inside freebsd :P |
| 21:50.20 | unfo | ProphetPX: or Mozilla Thunderbird :) |
| 21:50.23 | ProphetPX | ok so my earlier question was, how do i stop iptables from reporting packets it caught out to the screen (stdout) ? |
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| 21:50.31 | neurocyte | jolly_, bsd uses "slices" inside normal partitions, that's what you are missing |
| 21:50.31 | jolly_ | neurocyte I dont have freebsd, its just a disk i used to have on my freebsd system :) |
| 21:50.40 | ProphetPX | and yeah i use thunderbird but why start X unless u have to :-) and i will learn mutt, too |
| 21:50.49 | unfo | ProphetPX: are you stable or testing? are you on VT1? |
| 21:51.03 | ProphetPX | erm ... should i admit what branch i use? lol dont hack meeeeee lol |
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| 21:51.13 | unfo | ProphetPX: you should use stable. |
| 21:51.15 | ProphetPX | jk ... i use unstable/testing :-) |
| 21:51.22 | jolly_ | neurocyte I see what should i do? my freebsd crashed, and i wanted to take out my data |
| 21:51.30 | ProphetPX | stable is boring lol |
| 21:51.39 | stoned | either you use unstable, or you use testing |
| 21:51.48 | ProphetPX | with stable u dont get all the cool cuttin edge features :-P |
| 21:51.49 | stoned | you can't use both simultaneously on one machine |
| 21:51.59 | unfo | jolly_: one option is to hire a consultant, but we cannot help you do that here. |
| 21:51.59 | ProphetPX | eh ... well i use whatever fits lol |
| 21:51.59 | stoned | well, not traditionally |
| 21:52.02 | neurocyte | jolly_, I don't really know, I used freebsd for years, but I never mounted a freebsd partition under linux |
| 21:52.16 | jolly_ | neurocyte I see |
| 21:52.18 | ProphetPX | and yeah you can |
| 21:52.20 | stoned | jolly_, #freebsd perhaps |
| 21:52.24 | unfo | jolly_: another option is to get freebsd working again. |
| 21:52.29 | ProphetPX | lol |
| 21:52.30 | neurocyte | jolly_, get a freebsd livecd and use that to read the partition |
| 21:52.43 | unfo | FreeSBIE is a good freebsd livecd. |
| 21:52.52 | unfo | ProphetPX: so use ubuntu. :P |
| 21:52.52 | nkircthree | stoned well thanks anyways, i'm gonna go try rebooting it :) |
| 21:52.52 | ProphetPX | i am gonna try that live cd someday |
| 21:52.57 | neurocyte | yeah freesbie will do it |
| 21:53.11 | unfo | nkircthree: keep us posted. |
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| 21:53.45 | ProphetPX | blah, ubuntu with the funny name lol how can i dare admit it if i use it lol |
| 21:53.56 | stoned | I've used it |
| 21:54.01 | stoned | its alright |
| 21:54.08 | ProphetPX | blech ... |
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| 21:54.30 | fabio | hi everyone. Question: after grub, the first line that I can read when I boot my os is: "insmod: can't read /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/initrd/vesafb.ko no file or directory" ...why this? |
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| 21:54.39 | ProphetPX | so ... anyone know how i can stop iptables from spitting out packet info gunking up my screen? |
| 21:54.49 | stoned | ProphetPX, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. I dislike it, to me it sucks, but if tons of people are using it, it must at least be alright |
| 21:54.57 | ProphetPX | LOL stoned |
| 21:55.09 | nkircthree | unfo i would but i don't even know how this is going to work :) |
| 21:55.11 | ProphetPX | all i was saying was that i don't prefer it lol |
| 21:55.20 | unfo | nkircthree: so come back and tell us. :) |
| 21:55.26 | stew | ProphetPX: did you change /etc/syslog.conf to make the logged messages go to *? |
| 21:55.28 | unfo | nkircthree: can i ask, do you have a local LUG? |
| 21:55.30 | nkircthree | unfo i won't be able to if it fails .. |
| 21:55.31 | unfo | !lug toronto |
| 21:55.40 | jolly_ | neurocyte http://channels.debian.net/paste/2687. |
| 21:55.41 | nkircthree | unfo no.. just at the cs lab s |
| 21:55.41 | ProphetPX | erm .. hmm .... never heard of that. will check that now, thanks! :-) |
| 21:56.19 | stew | ProphetPX: if you've never heard of it then presumably you didn't change it. did you install debian or a debian derivative? |
| 21:56.20 | unfo | nkircthree: no, as in, what city do you live in? search for a Linux User Group there. or a university computer club. |
| 21:56.20 | jolly_ | heh freebsdie didnt like my computer |
| 21:56.21 | jolly_ | heh |
| 21:56.25 | unfo | jolly_: ?? |
| 21:56.26 | jolly_ | it just hang there |
| 21:56.30 | jolly_ | didnt want to boot |
| 21:56.32 | unfo | jolly_: where? |
| 21:56.43 | nkircthree | unfo yes.. the one at the cs labs is at the university here. . |
| 21:56.44 | stoned | ahh crap, my budd has mold on it!!! |
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| 21:56.46 | jolly_ | on the server iam running debian on now |
| 21:56.49 | schippes | anyone has some links for disk partition encryption under debian using the device mapper and dm-crypt infrastructure ? |
| 21:56.50 | stoned | eewww |
| 21:56.58 | nkircthree | unfo by the way, do you think this will work ? |
| 21:57.05 | unfo | maybe someone else can give you a CD. |
| 21:57.07 | unfo | !freecycle |
| 21:57.08 | dpkg | hmm... freecycle is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org. |
| 21:57.10 | unfo | they can too. |
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| 21:57.46 | stoned | Maulkin, :) |
| 21:58.03 | john_doe | What is the risk when not having a swap partition? |
| 21:58.18 | stoned | john_doe, I dont have swap, but I have 2gb ram |
| 21:58.18 | Maulkin | stoned: #salvia may be more on topic :) |
| 21:58.26 | stoned | my swap NEVER gets used even if i have one |
| 21:58.43 | john_doe | stoned: I only have 512 MB of ram |
| 21:58.53 | john_doe | It's almost used |
| 21:58.56 | stoned | john_doe, you probably want at least 512mb swap |
| 21:58.59 | neurocyte | schippes, what sort of info do you need? it's pretty easy |
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| 21:59.10 | unfo | stoned: I recommend you should have a little swap anyway, so that unused stuff like certain daemons can be swapped out. |
| 21:59.12 | nkircthree | unfo ok here goes, i hope just booting the vmlinux image is enough ^_^.. reboot now |
| 21:59.21 | unfo | stoned: Then youll have more disk cache. |
| 21:59.21 | john_doe | stoned: it's not easy for me making a swap partition |
| 21:59.31 | stoned | john_doe, no free space? |
| 21:59.38 | unfo | john_doe: what do you use for partitioning? |
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| 22:00.01 | stoned | yeh, unfo probably has a GUI tool for that as well |
| 22:00.04 | stoned | ;) |
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| 22:00.43 | somiaj | xorg problem: startx is looking for /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config which is created by xserver-common. xserver-common is now obsolete and conflichts with x11-common but also depends on it (bug 362659) but is working as designed. In this case what is supose to generate the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file? |
| 22:00.44 | ChrisW | anyone know of a good iptables-for-dummies how-to? |
| 22:00.45 | john_doe | My problem is that I'm on a laptop I've borrowed and it already has 4 primary partitions. |
| 22:00.49 | unfo | !iptables |
| 22:00.49 | dpkg | it has been said that iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 22:01.17 | stoned | john_doe, hmm, you COULD try ntfsresize, assuming that laptop has windows |
| 22:01.21 | unfo | john_doe: you could convert primary to logical with certain tools. it may break stuff though. |
| 22:01.23 | ChrisW | basically looking to secure a box apart from http, https, smtp, esmtp, imap-over-ssl and ssh... |
| 22:01.46 | unfo | !tell ChrisW about netfilter docs |
| 22:01.54 | john_doe | I just want to know if I risk damaging the system without having a swap partition. |
| 22:02.00 | stoned | john_doe, not at all |
| 22:02.10 | unfo | john_doe: swap is good for speed. |
| 22:02.12 | unfo | thats all. |
| 22:02.18 | unfo | well, and swap. |
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| 22:02.24 | john_doe | stoned: great. then I won't change it. |
| 22:02.39 | stoned | john_doe, if you don't use tons of desktop apps, you should be alright with 512 |
| 22:02.39 | john_doe | thank you! |
| 22:02.55 | neurocyte | john_doe, if you run out of ram and you don't have swap linux will start randomly killing processes |
| 22:02.56 | stoned | yw |
| 22:03.26 | stoned | john_doe, do you have a usb? |
| 22:03.27 | john_doe | stoned: After some years on linux, I have switched to light applications long ago. |
| 22:03.35 | stoned | john_doe, how about a 128mb usb key |
| 22:03.43 | MatBoy | I need gcc-++ under Debian, what can I install for it ? |
| 22:03.51 | zulu | hi there, I discovered in my log that some ip is tryin to connect to my ssh daemon, is there something I can do? may I black list the ip? is there a way to tell the daemon if it fail 3 times for an ip, black list it? |
| 22:03.54 | john_doe | neurocyte: that is very interesting! |
| 22:03.55 | stoned | john_doe, you can make one key as swap and mount it and mkswap and swapon the usb key |
| 22:04.07 | neurocyte | john_doe, just create a normal file and use it as swap |
| 22:04.23 | john_doe | neurocyte: that is a great idea! |
| 22:04.24 | ChrisW | unfo: thanks, but is there any "for stupid people" types docs? I've read some of those docs and they were a little more all-encompassing than i was hoping for :-S |
| 22:04.32 | MatBoy | I get this problem: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': |
| 22:04.44 | unfo | ChrisW: buy a Linksys router for $20. :) |
| 22:04.53 | Maulkin | zulu: have a look at fail2ban |
| 22:05.01 | unfo | MatBoy: did you do: apt-get install gcc |
| 22:05.04 | zulu | ok Maulkin thx |
| 22:05.07 | john_doe | stoned: I'd really like to avoid doing it with usb. My usb ports are busy with disks and other devices. |
| 22:05.09 | MatBoy | unfo, yep ! latest version |
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| 22:05.17 | stoned | john_doe, use a file |
| 22:05.29 | zulu | this seems to be a stupid worm tryin many standard login, like cisco etc... |
| 22:05.30 | john_doe | neurocyte: og stoned: how do I do that? |
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| 22:05.52 | unfo | MatBoy: paste this output to #flood: dpkg -L gcc-4.0-base |
| 22:06.07 | unfo | MatBoy: wait, stable or testing? |
| 22:06.07 | ChrisW | unfo: I'm looking to use iptables to secure 2 public debian boxes hosted with rackpsace :-S |
| 22:06.13 | MatBoy | unfo, Etch, testing |
| 22:06.17 | ChrisW | so I can't just slap a router in front of them ;-) |
| 22:06.24 | neurocyte | john_doe, dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap0 bs=1024 count=nnnnn && mkswap /swap0 && swapon /swap0 |
| 22:06.27 | unfo | ChrisW: oh :) so ask again. |
| 22:06.31 | Maulkin | zulu: I use fail2ban :) |
| 22:06.36 | neurocyte | john_doe, change nnnnn to the size of the swap file (in Kb) |
| 22:06.50 | mattt | ChrisW, don't Rackspace sell firewalls? :) |
| 22:06.52 | zulu | Maulkin thx for the info , reading the man this seems to be EXACTLY what I need :) |
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| 22:06.54 | john_doe | neurocyte: that's super! |
| 22:07.06 | ChrisW | mattt: yeah, for rather a lot of money :-S |
| 22:07.23 | mattt | ChrisW: hehe, yeah, just apply a base iptables ruleset |
| 22:07.26 | ryan` | grub and linux in general does not care if partitions do not end on cylender boundries, right? |
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| 22:07.54 | ChrisW | mattt:i'm trying to find a how-to which tells me how to do that ;-) |
| 22:08.04 | mattt | ChrisW: I can send you my base rules? |
| 22:08.17 | ChrisW | thanks: chris@simplistix.co.uk |
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| 22:08.28 | ChrisW | I am, however, trying to learn a bit about what I'm doing |
| 22:08.32 | ChrisW | where can I read up? |
| 22:08.40 | mattt | google "iptables tutorial"? |
| 22:08.48 | ChrisW | I did |
| 22:08.52 | ChrisW | not very enlightening :-( |
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| 22:09.23 | unfo | ChrisW: ask in channel ##networking maybe |
| 22:09.26 | toolchest | ChrisW: man iptables |
| 22:09.31 | john_doe | neurocyte: and stoned: thank you both very much for great help! |
| 22:09.32 | PestPete | Hello, I'm going to install Debian, although I'm not sure if the net install will work on my machine? |
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| 22:09.52 | thingfish | PestPete: why wouldn't it? |
| 22:10.15 | neurocyte | ChrisW, /usr/share/doc/iptables/html should be more than enough to get started |
| 22:10.17 | john_doe | neurocyte: where can I ead about a topic like linux will kill processes randomly when no memory is left? |
| 22:10.17 | PestPete | Does netinstall work if you have an ethernet card? Or does it need to be a strate connection? |
| 22:10.23 | stew | PestPete: what device would you be using to connect to the internet? |
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| 22:10.29 | toolchest | ChrisW: everything you need to know ;) |
| 22:10.34 | PestPete | stew: ethernet card |
| 22:10.37 | MatBoy | unfo, found it by help of vmwarechannel |
| 22:10.42 | MatBoy | I had to install g++ |
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| 22:10.54 | neurocyte | john_doe, dunno, google linux oom perhaps |
| 22:10.58 | unfo | !oom |
| 22:10.58 | dpkg | what a woc says. Out Of Memory |
| 22:11.00 | stew | PestPete: do you know the make/model? |
| 22:11.03 | thingfish | PestPete: I have had good luck with ethernet cards. |
| 22:11.07 | ChrisW | toolchest:mmm, I'm looking for the iptables equivalent of the postfix book by oreilly :-S |
| 22:11.07 | Maulkin | ChrisW: I can bounce you mine too IYL |
| 22:11.09 | thingfish | heh |
| 22:11.19 | PestPete | No, it was build into my server, I bought one of those pre-made servers from HP :P |
| 22:11.33 | thingfish | PestPete: likely it has an ethernet card. |
| 22:11.41 | unfo | !safari |
| 22:11.44 | thingfish | since they cost an OEM like $1.00 |
| 22:11.45 | john_doe | neurocyte: ok thanks |
| 22:11.48 | PestPete | Its only 180 mb, its worth downloading and seeing |
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| 22:11.51 | unfo | should I write a factoid? |
| 22:12.12 | thingfish | PestPete: if you have real new hardware, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
| 22:12.19 | neurocyte | safari is pure gold :D |
| 22:12.59 | thingfish | is safari part of Debian? |
| 22:13.03 | thingfish | I don't think so. |
| 22:13.41 | unfo | nor is freecycle, but its useful, and it has a factoid. |
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| 22:13.56 | stoned | I been on a safari once, when I was a child. I think it was NJ. Six flags or something |
| 22:14.10 | redphoenix1 | um is safari is part of osx......????? |
| 22:14.17 | beardy | Safari isn't that old, is it ;) |
| 22:14.20 | unfo | I went to African Lion Safari in Canada. Something licked my mom. |
| 22:14.26 | thingfish | ooo |
| 22:14.33 | mattt | haha, african lion safari ... that place is ghetto. |
| 22:14.34 | PestPete | oo |
| 22:14.34 | beardy | haha |
| 22:14.40 | redphoenix1 | wtf safari in canada?? |
| 22:14.57 | PestPete | I hope debian is better then centos. |
| 22:14.57 | unfo | redphoenix1: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Lion_Safari |
| 22:14.59 | beardy | !unfo++ |
| 22:15.01 | stoned | yeh, thats like saying you have nudie beaches in rhode island |
| 22:15.02 | thingfish | I'm not going anywhere where a big cat can get close enough to me to lick me. |
| 22:15.04 | unfo | PestPete: it is. |
| 22:15.15 | unfo | beardy: why the '!'? :) |
| 22:15.24 | stew | PestPete: do you have centos running on that box currently? |
| 22:15.27 | Seb | isn't ~/.Xdefaults automatically loaded when x starts up ? |
| 22:15.28 | PestPete | unfo: Please tell me it has yum install.. without it I can't live. |
| 22:15.29 | thingfish | aack |
| 22:15.38 | unfo | !tell PestPete about apt-get |
| 22:15.40 | thingfish | centos - the freshmaker! |
| 22:15.45 | beardy | unfo: So it will bite. He doesn't care otherwise. |
| 22:15.46 | unfo | haha |
| 22:15.48 | PestPete | stew: Thats right |
| 22:15.50 | neurocyte | Seb, depends on what session manager you're using |
| 22:15.59 | Seb | i mean i can add a xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults to my my .xsession but I thought somehow this was automatic |
| 22:16.00 | unfo | beardy: what?? |
| 22:16.01 | Seb | neurocyte: none, i use plain sawfish |
| 22:16.03 | beardy | !karma unfo |
| 22:16.03 | dpkg | unfo has karma of 1 |
| 22:16.06 | stew | PestPete: what does "lspci | grep Ether" say? |
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| 22:16.11 | unfo | cool! |
| 22:16.18 | neurocyte | Seb, the you need to load it yourself |
| 22:16.19 | PestPete | Oh nice, Debian as a 'yum-like' command |
| 22:16.21 | unfo | !beardy++ |
| 22:16.28 | Seb | neurocyte: ok, fair enough, thx man |
| 22:16.31 | thingfish | PestPete: are you coming from fedora? |
| 22:16.43 | unfo | CentOS is a free RHEL clone. |
| 22:16.51 | thingfish | PestPete: yes, apt-get is kind of like yum. only universes better. |
| 22:16.54 | PestPete | thingfish, nope Centos, my first box was Fedora then I went CentOS and now Debian |
| 22:17.15 | beardy | unfo: I found the "Something licked my mom." quite funny, heh. |
| 22:17.16 | unfo | !safari is a website where you can read almost all O'Reilly books online. Your local university library may provide free access to all visitors. Or get the free trial. http://safari.oreilly.com |
| 22:17.16 | dpkg | unfo: okay |
| 22:17.20 | unfo | beardy: :) |
| 22:17.20 | thingfish | well thank goodness you got away from that mess. |
| 22:17.31 | unfo | redphoenix1: there |
| 22:17.47 | unfo | PestPete: do you have a local LUG? |
| 22:18.05 | PestPete | What is a local LUG? |
| 22:18.09 | stoned | or you can to to #books on undernet and get hundreds of thousands of books on whatever |
| 22:18.10 | beardy | !lug |
| 22:18.11 | mattt | linux user group |
| 22:18.14 | stoned | ou didn't hear that from me |
| 22:18.15 | stoned | ;) |
| 22:18.20 | PestPete | !tell lug |
| 22:18.31 | PestPete | !lug |
| 22:18.33 | redphoenix1 | hehe ok |
| 22:18.46 | PestPete | Linux user group |
| 22:18.51 | mattt | the LUG in london, uk seems like a night out drinking |
| 22:18.54 | PestPete | No I don't. |
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| 22:19.02 | unfo | mattt: LUGRadio is the best |
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| 22:19.14 | PestPete | I should come to LUG in London then :P |
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| 22:19.25 | MatBoy | is it possible to run the nvidia-kernel-module with a 2.6.16.18 kernel ? When I apt-cache on it... I only see the 2.6.15-1 |
| 22:19.27 | mattt | PestPete: hehe, they always just go out for a curry then go drinking |
| 22:19.28 | unfo | the Toronto Ruby User Group is sorta like that too. |
| 22:19.29 | thingfish | !lug |
| 22:19.29 | dpkg | Short for Linux User Group. Look for one in your area. |
| 22:19.36 | unfo | mattt: testing or unstable? |
| 22:19.54 | PestPete | Thats a fine idea |
| 22:20.33 | stoned | can't touch this... da nana na nana nananana |
| 22:20.45 | stoned | hammertime! |
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| 22:21.19 | MatBoy | why do I need nvidia-kernel-modules ? |
| 22:21.26 | thingfish | stoned you really need to be on medication I think. |
| 22:21.30 | unfo | mattt: testing or unstable? |
| 22:21.44 | stoned | MatBoy, if you want 3d support |
| 22:21.45 | unfo | stoned: I recommend ritalin. It Just Works(tm)! :) |
| 22:21.55 | stoned | I don't need medication |
| 22:21.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:22.00 | PestPete | installing proftpd with mysql on centos is hell. |
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| 22:22.07 | PestPete | I think it was built for Debian. |
| 22:22.11 | MatBoy | stoned, OK, but what if I compile a custom latest kernel... |
| 22:22.16 | thingfish | stoned: heavy tranquilizers. |
| 22:22.26 | stoned | thingfish, nah, I need higher quality budds |
| 22:22.34 | stoned | MatBoy, about about it |
| 22:22.37 | thingfish | hehe don't we all |
| 22:22.38 | Misogynist | Is it possible for us to host a local apt mirror without needing to synchronize every package? That is, some way to transparently cache packages somewhere on our network, and get them from a mirror if they're not found there? |
| 22:22.38 | unfo | no, lug is <reply> LUG means Linux User Group. There is one in every large city, and some in smaller places too. Use Google to search for: London Linux User Group or New York Linux User Group or some such. Or, ask your local college's Computer Science department if there is a computer club or Linux club. Or ask us. |
| 22:22.38 | stoned | what about it* |
| 22:22.48 | unfo | Misogynist: why? |
| 22:23.03 | unfo | Misogynist: squid caches everything fine if set up right anyway. |
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| 22:23.22 | Misogynist | We have a lot of servers running the same packages out of the same repositories |
| 22:23.24 | MatBoy | stoned, because the apt-version of that kernel-module are not supported for the latest version, so I think I have a problem |
| 22:23.34 | stoned | MatBoy, unless you want 3d support, you can just use the nv driver |
| 22:23.59 | MatBoy | stoned, kdm does not want to start anymore on nv ? |
| 22:24.00 | MatBoy | :S |
| 22:24.17 | Misogynist | Could we accomplish the same thing by just mounting the apt cache directory on a network share? |
| 22:24.17 | stoned | MatBoy, thats strange |
| 22:24.25 | MatBoy | stoned, indeed |
| 22:24.27 | stoned | MatBoy, what do you get in /var/log |
| 22:24.31 | unfo | Misogynist: do you run Squid Cache? |
| 22:24.35 | Misogynist | We do not |
| 22:24.40 | unfo | why not? :) |
| 22:24.43 | neurocyte | MatBoy, you can build the nvidia-kernel package for your kernel with the module-assistant |
| 22:24.47 | stoned | MatBoy, check the errors logs and such |
| 22:24.51 | john_doe | thanks for now. goodnight everyone! |
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| 22:24.56 | unfo | !m-a one-liner |
| 22:24.57 | stoned | !tell MatBoy about nvidia one liner |
| 22:25.04 | neurocyte | l8r john_doe |
| 22:25.20 | unfo | mattt: use vesa driver. |
| 22:25.22 | Misogynist | Many of the servers are managed dedicated or virtual private servers for customers, so we try not to do anything on the network that could potentially break something some of them are doing |
| 22:25.24 | unfo | oops |
| 22:25.30 | Misogynist | Since we don't really have any idea what that is, a lot of the time |
| 22:25.30 | unfo | MatBoy: use the vesa driver. |
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| 22:25.41 | unfo | Misogynist: ah. I don't know. Ask again maybe? |
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| 22:25.51 | nkircfour | unfo that didnt work . |
| 22:25.57 | MatBoy | neurocyte, module-assistant is easy to use I guess ? |
| 22:25.58 | unfo | nkircfour: what didnt? |
| 22:26.01 | unfo | !ask |
| 22:26.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 22:26.10 | neurocyte | MatBoy, very |
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| 22:26.29 | stoned | whats with this dude |
| 22:26.45 | unfo | stoned: which dude? and what is the issue? :) |
| 22:26.53 | MatBoy | neurocyte, let me try that :) |
| 22:27.21 | PestPete | I hate people who ask to ask. |
| 22:27.33 | thingfish | PestPete: don't hate. |
| 22:27.49 | stoned | hating takes too much effort and work |
| 22:27.51 | beardy | PestPete: Love them by teaching them better manners instead. |
| 22:27.57 | thingfish | #debian is a place for gracious people. :) |
| 22:28.00 | MatBoy | neurocyte, I need a new line to my sources.list ? is that true ? |
| 22:28.01 | neurocyte | Misogynist, setup a squid cache and tell your customers to use it just for apt |
| 22:28.16 | stoned | MatBoy, contrib non-free |
| 22:28.20 | PestPete | Lol, Okay. |
| 22:28.34 | PestPete | :O |
| 22:28.39 | stoned | MatBoy, you only need those two repositories added to already existing line |
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| 22:28.43 | MatBoy | stoned, I have this line deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free |
| 22:28.43 | Klowner | I found rdonald's nvidia driver repos, and I'm attempting to install one of the newer versions from the unstable repos, but I can't find a freakin nvidia-glx-source package that's up to date |
| 22:28.50 | stoned | MatBoy, you should be fine |
| 22:28.52 | thingfish | PestPete: of course there's beer if you prefer. |
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| 22:29.00 | MatBoy | stoned, I still get the message |
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| 22:29.13 | stoned | MatBoy, I dunno, maybe the packages are not in etch |
| 22:29.23 | unfo | !beer thingfish |
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| 22:29.31 | thingfish | thanks unfo |
| 22:29.34 | unfo | :) |
| 22:29.35 | stoned | MatBoy, what message and from what command |
| 22:29.35 | nick_ | hmn i lagged out? |
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| 22:29.40 | nick_ | unfo sorry, did you tell me what an init= was? |
| 22:29.42 | rvalles | W: GPG error: http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 22:29.44 | thingfish | but I'm already kind of buzzing on bourbons and cokes. |
| 22:29.46 | unfo | nick_: init=? |
| 22:29.52 | unfo | rvalles: see topic? |
| 22:29.53 | nick_ | unfo sorry.. one sec |
| 22:29.54 | MatBoy | when I run the install-line that neurocyte have me |
| 22:29.59 | nkircfive | there. |
| 22:30.08 | rvalles | unfo: ouch, looked at it but missed that part of it |
| 22:30.13 | unfo | !d-i nkircfive |
| 22:30.13 | dpkg | nkircfive, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 22:30.13 | Misogynist | While this channel is abuzz, does anyone know if the mysql-server-5.0 package in unstable has clustering support? |
| 22:30.16 | nkircfive | unfo yes, when i try that installer booting thing, it said about the initial console, how it couldnt find it |
| 22:30.18 | MatBoy | stoned, Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to â |
| 22:30.18 | MatBoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.19 | unfo | nkircfive: tried it? :) |
| 22:30.27 | nkircfive | unfo yes.. and it cant find the initial console |
| 22:30.32 | unfo | nkircfive: also, what is the name of the .iso file you are using? |
| 22:30.33 | stoned | MatBoy, did you apt-get update? |
| 22:30.34 | neurocyte | MatBoy, what message? what did you run? |
| 22:30.40 | MatBoy | stoned, that is on the module-assistant |
| 22:30.41 | Klowner | nvidia-glx_1.0.8178-1_i386 is there, but the newest src is nvidia-glx-src_1.0.4348-1, daah |
| 22:30.45 | nkircfive | unfo i don't have an iso , remember, he said i could try that net thing ? |
| 22:30.53 | nkircfive | maybe i'll try an iso instead? |
| 22:30.58 | nkircfive | ok .. i'll go download an iso |
| 22:30.59 | stoned | MatBoy, take it in steps, apt-get install nvidia-glx module-assistant |
| 22:31.09 | MatBoy | tell stoned neurocyte about nvidia one liner |
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| 22:31.14 | stoned | MatBoy, then m-a prepare |
| 22:31.22 | stoned | MatBoy, then m-a a-i nvidia |
| 22:31.27 | unfo | !nvidia one liner |
| 22:31.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 22:31.29 | stoned | MatBoy, then modprobe nvidia |
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| 22:31.45 | stoned | MatBoy, I had dpkg tell you what to do exactly |
| 22:31.47 | rvalles | unfo: ran the command and I still get the error. |
| 22:31.48 | nkircfive | unfo i've got that vmlinux , vmlinuz, initrd.gz , initrd.list |
| 22:31.51 | unfo | nkircfive: what did you do already? |
| 22:32.04 | rvalles | unfo: (the key was imported... it said "OK" and all. |
| 22:32.05 | stoned | MatBoy, but still don't blindly do something without understanding it at least. Take it in steps |
| 22:32.06 | rvalles | ) |
| 22:32.20 | MatBoy | stoned, yeps... and that failes on the module-assistant... itÅ› not in etch |
| 22:32.25 | unfo | rvalles: odd. |
| 22:32.27 | unfo | !badsig |
| 22:32.27 | dpkg | If you're seeing BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive; this means that the signature on the Release.gpg file doesn't match the Release file. This happened because a mirror pulse was delayed. Use a different mirror, or wait 24 hours and the problem will resolve itself. |
| 22:32.31 | stoned | MatBoy, WHAT module assisnt part |
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| 22:32.45 | stoned | MatBoy, what is module assistant failing to do? |
| 22:32.53 | nkircfive | unfo i appended my bootloader, tried rebooting it, and selected the installer option? |
| 22:32.56 | rvalles | so I should just wait |
| 22:32.57 | rvalles | I see. |
| 22:33.02 | DarkCow | Overnight, should I be running an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:33.03 | ChrisW | where do iptables rules live in debian? |
| 22:33.05 | unfo | nkircfive: did you burn a cd? |
| 22:33.10 | unfo | !dist-upgrade |
| 22:33.10 | dpkg | ask me about 'woody->sarge' or 'sarge->etch', or a parameter to apt-get which will do intelligent dependency handling (as opposed to "upgrade"). It will install new packages and clobber old ones as needed. Do not blindly use dist-upgrade. man apt-get, and read carefully. see <why not dist upgrade> |
| 22:33.14 | ChrisW | is /etc/init.d/iptables something standard? |
| 22:33.14 | nkircfive | unfo no.. i tried using a bootloader. |
| 22:33.21 | MatBoy | stoned, when I want to install these packages: nvidia-glx module-assistant, It can find it |
| 22:33.21 | nkircfive | !bootloader |
| 22:33.22 | neurocyte | ChrisW, no, it was removed |
| 22:33.25 | nkircfive | !grub |
| 22:33.25 | dpkg | i heard grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler.. NOT recommendend with JFS |
| 22:33.28 | unfo | DarkCow: stable or testing? |
| 22:33.35 | DarkCow | testing |
| 22:33.37 | stoned | MatBoy, did you apt-get update after you put in the contrib non-free |
| 22:33.38 | ChrisW | neurocyte: mmm, okay, so how do you do it now? |
| 22:33.47 | neurocyte | ChrisW, you can roll your own or install one of the many firewall packages |
| 22:33.53 | MatBoy | stoned, yep, the line was laready fully there |
| 22:33.58 | unfo | DarkCow: see the APT HOWTO. |
| 22:34.04 | unfo | DarkCow: dist-upgrade. |
| 22:34.10 | nkircfive | stoned hey .. you were the one that mentioned those files earlier.. do you know if one of them is one that can be appended with init= ? |
| 22:34.11 | MatBoy | stoned, so that is strange |
| 22:34.24 | ChrisW | neurocyte: oh, I thought iptables _was_ a firewall package... |
| 22:34.28 | ChrisW | is it not? |
| 22:34.55 | unfo | ChrisW: in ##networking or #security they can explain it all to you... :) |
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| 22:35.08 | neurocyte | ChrisW, its the engine that makes all linux firewalls run |
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| 22:35.23 | stoned | nkircfive, only the linux file neneds a paramter. grub line looks like this == " kernel /path/to/linux root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=12000 |
| 22:35.23 | stoned | etc. |
| 22:35.26 | stoned | MatBoy, apt-cache search nvidia |
| 22:35.27 | neurocyte | ChrisW, most linux firewalls are really just pretty configuration interfaces for iptables |
| 22:35.29 | ChrisW | k, can you guys recommend a good firewal lfor a debian box? |
| 22:35.40 | MatBoy | stoned, I have read a message somewhere that the nvidia drivers were banned from etch last month |
| 22:35.42 | neurocyte | ChrisW, view /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz |
| 22:35.43 | ChrisW | or would you recommend rolling you own iptables stuff? |
| 22:35.54 | dli | ChrisW, how complex it should be? |
| 22:36.05 | DarkCow | unfo, care to explain why I should dist-upgrade instead of a normal upgrade? |
| 22:36.05 | nkircfive | stoned when i try booting it like that though |
| 22:36.21 | DarkCow | I have looked at the docs |
| 22:36.22 | nkircfive | stoned it tells me , that it cannot load the initial console |
| 22:36.23 | MatBoy | stoned, nope... the packages are not found :( |
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| 22:36.30 | stoned | MatBoy, I dunno, I don't use etch sorry |
| 22:36.41 | thingfish | stoned: you use sarge? |
| 22:36.42 | MatBoy | stoned, what do you run ? |
| 22:36.49 | stoned | thingfish, sid/sarge yes |
| 22:36.52 | thingfish | me too. |
| 22:36.52 | stoned | I despise testing |
| 22:36.55 | thingfish | I love sarge. |
| 22:37.01 | neurocyte | ChrisW, I always roll my own, shorewall is highly recommended though |
| 22:37.02 | thingfish | love it love it love it |
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| 22:37.20 | stoned | yeh, I can't dig old software for desktop use, sarge is mainly ONLY used as a monitorless network server |
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| 22:37.30 | Meaw | i have edit /etc/modules how to update it ? |
| 22:37.34 | stoned | on a spare few machines in my house |
| 22:37.39 | stoned | nkircfive, what>? |
| 22:37.44 | stoned | nkircfive, what are you saying now? |
| 22:37.45 | ChrisW | neurocyte: yeah, but I'm a shandy sipping lightweight ;-) |
| 22:37.50 | thingfish | oh I love it for a desktop. It probably helps that my hardware is a year old. |
| 22:37.54 | ChrisW | debian has a shorewall package I'm guessing? |
| 22:38.02 | MatBoy | stoned, sarge is OK, but it can not run on my hardware :( |
| 22:38.03 | unfo | Meaw: what are you trying to do???? |
| 22:38.05 | nkircfive | and to try appending init= as a kernel option |
| 22:38.06 | nkircfive | stoned when i boot it, select the installer image's menu item, and it loads it's vmlinux image |
| 22:38.16 | stoned | nkircfive, and ... |
| 22:38.17 | thingfish | I just can't stand bugs anymore. So no unstable, no testing. |
| 22:38.22 | nkircfive | stoned at the end of that, it tells me that it could not load it's initial console |
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| 22:38.26 | unfo | !thingfish++ |
| 22:38.31 | nkircfive | and to try appending init= as a kernel option |
| 22:38.32 | neurocyte | ChrisW, don't guess, aptitude search ;) |
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| 22:38.36 | nkircfive | and that it will reboot in 180 seconds |
| 22:38.41 | thingfish | !beer unfo |
| 22:38.41 | Meaw | unfo configure pppoe server |
| 22:38.46 | nkircfive | and it doesnt tick down, it just leaves it at 180 seconds till it reboots. |
| 22:38.47 | stoned | nkircfive, have you specified the correct filename for the initrd.gz file |
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| 22:38.55 | MatBoy | neurocyte, do you have another option about the nvidia-drivers ? |
| 22:38.58 | unfo | Meaw: tell me more. |
| 22:39.00 | nkircfive | stoned no .. i haven't specified anything other than the original names |
| 22:39.04 | stoned | nkircfive, initrd /initrd.gz |
| 22:39.09 | stoned | basically that is all |
| 22:39.22 | nkircfive | stoned do i put that in with grub, or at the boot prompt ? |
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| 22:39.24 | stoned | or whwerever you placed it |
| 22:39.27 | Meaw | unfo the kernel mode for rp-pppoe server |
| 22:39.32 | spowers | do the files in /etc/cron.d do anything by themselves? |
| 22:39.32 | nkircfive | because i kept trying it with the boot prompt |
| 22:39.39 | Meaw | so i should edit the lines in /etc/modules |
| 22:39.49 | stoned | nkircfive, paste the menu.lst entry of the new sarge netinstaller entry on pastebin |
| 22:39.53 | stoned | or somewhere |
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| 22:40.06 | nkircfive | i don't get what you just said .. |
| 22:40.20 | stoned | nkircfive, paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin |
| 22:40.32 | stoned | nkircfive, so that I may see what your entry looks like for the sarge netinstaller |
| 22:40.32 | nkircfive | #pastebin? ok. |
| 22:40.34 | nkircfive | one sec |
| 22:40.36 | nkircfive | let me see |
| 22:40.38 | pagey | What is a good webcam utility in sarge troops? |
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| 22:40.41 | stoned | nkircfive, just that new entry |
| 22:40.41 | unfo | Meaw: why do you want rp-pppoe? |
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| 22:40.45 | nkircfive | stoned oh |
| 22:40.46 | stoned | nkircfive, not the whole file please |
| 22:40.46 | unfo | !webcam |
| 22:40.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, webcam is a method to setup a webcam using Debian: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm |
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| 22:40.57 | pagey | cheers |
| 22:41.05 | ChrisW | righty, looks like I'll give shorewall a spin, thanks guys :-) |
| 22:41.06 | Meaw | unfo im installing freeradius mysql and rp-pppoe server |
| 22:41.14 | unfo | Meaw: why? |
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| 22:41.30 | Meaw | to provide cables |
| 22:41.32 | nkircfive | stoned that'll take a sec, but ok, by the way, i got the files from the netboot-minimal is that the right one? |
| 22:41.33 | neurocyte | ChrisW, np :) |
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| 22:41.37 | unfo | Meaw: cables?? |
| 22:42.05 | unfo | !fr |
| 22:42.05 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 22:42.09 | Meaw | DSL |
| 22:42.10 | marco13185 | how do I run make config on the kernel? |
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| 22:42.25 | unfo | Meaw: you work at a telco and are running Debian in a DSLAM? |
| 22:42.27 | thingfish | marco13185: why not use a debian pre-made kernel? |
| 22:42.35 | unfo | marco13185: why? use m-a instead. |
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| 22:42.53 | marco13185 | thingfish, I do, but I need to run make config to build realtime-lsm |
| 22:42.58 | marco13185 | unfo, ^^ |
| 22:43.03 | Meaw | aren't you going to tell me how to update /etc/modules? |
| 22:43.09 | unfo | Meaw: you work at a telco and are running Debian in a DSLAM????? |
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| 22:43.21 | Meaw | nope |
| 22:43.29 | unfo | then why do you need rp-pppoe? |
| 22:43.31 | Meaw | what is telco? |
| 22:43.31 | cerebroenfuga | permission? |
| 22:43.32 | nkircfive | stoned nevermind |
| 22:43.36 | cerebroenfuga | yes! |
| 22:43.39 | thingfish | telephone company |
| 22:43.42 | unfo | Meaw: telephone company, like Telecom France |
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| 22:43.55 | Meaw | unfo nope. im from middle east |
| 22:44.06 | neurocyte | marco13185, m-a prepare should be all you need |
| 22:44.08 | Meaw | i wanna sell internet cable |
| 22:44.10 | thingfish | oh cool, which country, Meaw? |
| 22:44.15 | marco13185 | neurocyte, I get an error |
| 22:44.26 | Meaw | so im installing rp-pppoe server with freeradius+mysql |
| 22:44.31 | Meaw | thingfish palestine |
| 22:44.35 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 22:44.36 | marco13185 | neurocyte, Failed: Security Capabilities not configured as module â–’ |
| 22:44.42 | kaiSVK | hi all :) |
| 22:44.42 | thingfish | palestine, huh |
| 22:44.43 | marco13185 | Failed: Security Capabilities not configured as module â–’ |
| 22:44.48 | marco13185 | neurocyte, ^^ |
| 22:44.55 | unfo | Meaw: ah. you need to update the module dependencies, like with depmod? |
| 22:44.57 | unfo | kaiSVK: hi |
| 22:45.03 | kaiSVK | I am new around here ... just want to ask some questions about debian before I will try it |
| 22:45.03 | neurocyte | marco13185, aha, that stinks |
| 22:45.09 | unfo | kaiSVK: ok |
| 22:45.12 | marco13185 | neurocyte, :( |
| 22:45.29 | Meaw | unfo i just edit one line in /etc/modules/ alias tty-ldisc-13 n_hdlc |
| 22:45.37 | marco13185 | neurocyte, also: │ Realtime LSM will not work with /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686/build ▒ |
| 22:45.37 | unfo | Meaw: ok |
| 22:45.49 | Meaw | does it update automaticly, or there is command to update the modules |
| 22:45.50 | nkircfive | stoned it's set now.. wish me luck /rebooting |
| 22:45.52 | kaiSVK | unfo: I have Ubuntu installed, and I am fascinated :) but I really mean it with linux ;) so Ubuntu is just too "clicky" for me :) |
| 22:46.09 | thingfish | kaiSVK: Debian welcomes you, then. |
| 22:46.14 | kaiSVK | unfo: what about debian and multimedia ? such a mp3, divx, DVD playback etc ? |
| 22:46.23 | marco13185 | why doesn't sound work for all users by default? |
| 22:46.27 | marco13185 | isn't is supposed to? |
| 22:46.33 | unfo | Meaw: /etc/modules is not a file. did you edit modprobe.conf? |
| 22:46.35 | unfo | !sound |
| 22:46.35 | dpkg | [sound] ask me about <alsa-bork>, <alsa for morons>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 22:46.37 | thingfish | kaiSVK: I use sarge, and it makes a fine multimedia fun/workstation. |
| 22:46.43 | unfo | !alsa for morons |
| 22:46.44 | dpkg | from memory, alsa for morons is 1) remove all sound-related kernel modules 2) run alsaconf 3) disable all sound servers 4) hope, or echo -e "snd-your-module" >> /etc/modules && reboot |
| 22:46.44 | stoned | im smoking |
| 22:46.45 | stoned | later |
| 22:46.56 | unfo | marco13185: you need to add them to the sound group. |
| 22:46.57 | Meaw | unfo nope i didn't edit modprobe |
| 22:47.02 | unfo | Meaw: oops |
| 22:47.04 | kaiSVK | thingfish: thanx for welcome :) u r far too kind :) |
| 22:47.07 | thingfish | who cares, stoned. the only difference between you and us it that you broadcast it. |
| 22:47.13 | kaiSVK | another IMPORTANT QUESTIOn |
| 22:47.19 | kaiSVK | wich version of Debian to choose ? |
| 22:47.20 | unfo | !thingfish++ :) |
| 22:47.23 | Meaw | unfo i edit /etc/modules.conf |
| 22:47.25 | unfo | kaiSVK: stable. |
| 22:47.30 | cerebroenfuga | jajaj thingfish |
| 22:47.31 | kaiSVK | I would like to use testing :) |
| 22:47.32 | marco13185 | unfo, my user is in audio |
| 22:47.39 | cerebroenfuga | kaiSVK, ETCH! |
| 22:47.53 | kaiSVK | unfo: I went from SuSE to Ubuntu and want to try Debian ... so |
| 22:48.05 | kaiSVK | cerebroenfuga: ETCH ? |
| 22:48.07 | unfo | marco13185: and? :) |
| 22:48.08 | unfo | !ask |
| 22:48.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 22:48.09 | thingfish | kaiSVK: Debian's install is even easier than ubuntu's. |
| 22:48.22 | cerebroenfuga | kaiSVK, etch=testing |
| 22:48.48 | kaiSVK | thingfish: really ? I saw the screenshots in text mode installer ... and strange yes/no questions from installer :) |
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| 22:49.18 | cerebroenfuga | it depends on what lvl debconf is |
| 22:49.21 | thingfish | kaiSVK: tsk. ubuntu's installer asks more questions and takes longer than debian's. |
| 22:49.22 | unfo | !debconf_priority=critical is a way to get a quick and easy install. when you boot the Debian install CD, type: linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical and it will skip all the useless questions. |
| 22:49.22 | dpkg | okay, unfo |
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| 22:49.41 | unfo | thingfish: depends if you are installing at critical or not. |
| 22:49.44 | kaiSVK | where can I find which packages contain versions stable, unstable, testing ? |
| 22:49.54 | thingfish | kaiSVK: did you manage to install ubuntu? then you'll have no problem at all installing sarge, unless you've got real new hardware. |
| 22:50.00 | unfo | kaiSVK: you must use stable. else we will not support you. |
| 22:50.10 | Le_Vert | do you know what I can do when my nfs mount get broken |
| 22:50.14 | Meaw | unfo so how to update it? i just edit /etc/modules.conf |
| 22:50.19 | Le_Vert | when copying a subversion repo on it |
| 22:50.20 | kaiSVK | thingfish: I think Ubuntu installer can handle 4 years old child :) |
| 22:50.22 | unfo | Meaw: reboot. did it work? |
| 22:50.24 | Le_Vert | like increasing buffers |
| 22:50.26 | thingfish | oh well yes I mean you can get debian's installer to ask you a ton of stuff if that's what you want. |
| 22:50.31 | Le_Vert | or something like that |
| 22:50.35 | cerebroenfuga | kaiSVK, debian's can too |
| 22:50.40 | unfo | thingfish: and it's the default to. :( |
| 22:50.43 | Meaw | i didn't reboot yet, im installing another things |
| 22:50.46 | Meaw | but i'll try |
| 22:50.50 | kaiSVK | unfo: aha ... so If I use unstable or testing nobody will chat with me ? ;) |
| 22:50.50 | Meaw | later |
| 22:50.51 | thingfish | kaiSVK: hey. just try the debian installer. I guarantee you you can make it through it. |
| 22:50.58 | thingfish | unfo: what? |
| 22:51.00 | Meaw | thought there is command to update |
| 22:51.14 | unfo | Meaw: update-modules is deprecated. see the manpage. |
| 22:51.16 | mattt | on sarge, where do i save my iptables rules to? |
| 22:51.25 | kaiSVK | thingfish: I will .. tomorrow I think ... 00 51 here :) still at work reading about Deb :) |
| 22:51.37 | unfo | kaiSVK: go to sleep. :) |
| 22:51.57 | thingfish | tsk no geek sleeps until at least 01:00. |
| 22:51.57 | kaiSVK | unfo: omg ... I read about Deb allday :) so I have done no work :) |
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| 22:52.26 | thingfish | oh well I guess it's almost that time heh |
| 22:52.28 | unfo | kaiSVK: your employers dont care? your SO/kids if any? |
| 22:52.33 | thingfish | !bourbon |
| 22:52.33 | dpkg | i heard bourbon is THE SHIT.. Damn, it's THe drink ;-) |
| 22:52.45 | neurocyte | lol |
| 22:53.08 | Meaw | dpkg are you bash bot? |
| 22:53.14 | unfo | !bot |
| 22:53.14 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 22:53.16 | thingfish | Meaw: it's a blootbot |
| 22:53.17 | kaiSVK | unfo, thingfish I thought the SuSE community is the best, maybe I have just underestimated the Debian's :) |
| 22:53.36 | Meaw | awsome |
| 22:53.38 | Meaw | :> |
| 22:53.41 | kaiSVK | unfo: my epmployers are like my friends or some kind of ... |
| 22:53.53 | kaiSVK | unfo: so they dont care unless the work is done properly :) |
| 22:54.01 | unfo | kaiSVK: and they dont care if you dont do work for a whole day? :) |
| 22:54.05 | thingfish | kaiSVK: the Debian community is a beautiful thing. A model of what human society can be like. |
| 22:54.19 | thingfish | well, except for sometimes here in #debian of course. |
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| 22:54.30 | thingfish | when people get short on patience. |
| 22:54.36 | kaiSVK | unfo: they know I wont left my work unless the work for this day is done :) |
| 22:54.46 | unfo | kaiSVK: ok *shrug* |
| 22:54.47 | kaiSVK | thingfish: as I can see .. |
| 22:55.11 | pollywog | anyone know if ssh-agent is started by kdm in Sarge, it seems to work in Etch but I am having problems with Sarge |
| 22:55.49 | thingfish | kaiSVK: and anyway, first you fall in love with the distro, then you come to love its community. |
| 22:55.51 | unfo | pollywog: by kdm?? |
| 22:56.06 | pollywog | unfo yes by the kdm startup scripts |
| 22:56.08 | kaiSVK | and now some stupid question, can anybody told ... in general, what DE prefers Debian's user more ? GNOME or KDE ? :) |
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| 22:56.22 | unfo | pollywog: kdm is a graphical login manager. |
| 22:56.29 | pollywog | unfo yes I know |
| 22:56.42 | O43h68 | no me fije que traia el canal de debian por default :S |
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| 22:57.04 | thingfish | kaiSVK: not stupid at all. All I can tell you is this: if, during install, you choose Desktop Environment, both GNOME and KDE are installed, and gdm. THe defaults are gdm and GNOME. |
| 22:57.14 | thingfish | !es |
| 22:57.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:57.42 | O43h68 | dpkg oks |
| 22:57.43 | cerebroenfuga | dpkg, oh now i can stop speaking english =), good bye boys |
| 22:57.52 | kaiSVK | thingfish: I understand, I heard an opinion that GNOME is more "free" desktop than KDE |
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| 22:57.54 | thingfish | kaiSVK: but you can later install whichever DE and select it from gdm's Session menu. |
| 22:57.55 | unfo | cerebroenfuga: :) |
| 22:57.56 | O43h68 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:58.03 | unfo | cerebroenfuga: your english is fine. |
| 22:58.15 | unfo | K-lined?? |
| 22:58.24 | thingfish | kaiSVK: well I don't know about that...however it is plain to everyone with half a brain that GNOME is the better desktop. ;) |
| 22:58.25 | kaiSVK | btw ... it can be strange but I like Debian's webpage |
| 22:58.38 | kaiSVK | simple and just "clever" |
| 22:58.55 | unfo | kaiSVK: if you send a message to webmaster@debian.org the web team will be happy all day. :) |
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| 22:59.17 | ice_1963 | :) |
| 22:59.23 | kaiSVK | unfo: :) |
| 22:59.27 | kaiSVK | unfo: I will ... :) |
| 22:59.28 | pollywog | There must be some script in Etch that is starting ssh-agent but is missing from Sarge |
| 22:59.35 | pollywog | will have to investigate |
| 22:59.40 | unfo | pollywog: look in /etc/init.d |
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| 22:59.48 | kaiSVK | for example ... which version of KDE is in the present stable release ? |
| 23:00.06 | azeem | !info kdelibs stable |
| 23:00.11 | dpkg | kdelibs: (KDE core libraries metapackage), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-6.4 (sarge), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 23:00.21 | azeem | kaiSVK: 3.3.2 |
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| 23:00.29 | kaiSVK | azeem: what a ... |
| 23:00.35 | unfo | kaiSVK: start with Debian stable and use it for a year *before* you move up. |
| 23:00.39 | kaiSVK | azeem: I am used to 3.5.2 :) |
| 23:00.46 | azeem | kaiSVK: *shrug* |
| 23:00.48 | unfo | kaiSVK: otherwise you are less likely to get tech support here. |
| 23:00.55 | nkircthree | stoned ok i tried it with initrd=/initrd.gz |
| 23:00.57 | thingfish | kaiSVK: you can get 3.5 from backports.org |
| 23:00.59 | azeem | unfo: that's not entirely true |
| 23:01.05 | unfo | azeem: how? |
| 23:01.10 | nkircthree | stoned it told me the exact same thing about the console .. so maybe i need to try a different method. |
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| 23:01.34 | azeem | unfo: we try to support people on testing in here, and questions about unstable are frequently answered, although you cannot count on that |
| 23:01.36 | kaiSVK | thingfish: ufff ... that we can discuss later ... but I liked the new versions of gnome and kde ... |
| 23:01.37 | pollywog | I found the script it is in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and it starts ssh-agent in Etch |
| 23:01.42 | pollywog | but it is not in Sarge |
| 23:01.44 | kaiSVK | I will try something |
| 23:01.52 | kaiSVK | !info php stable |
| 23:02.09 | unfo | nkircthree: Google is your friend. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=debian+%22cannot+open+%2Fdev%2Fconsole |
| 23:02.13 | kaiSVK | !info apache stable |
| 23:02.15 | azeem | !info php4 stable |
| 23:02.15 | dpkg | apache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-6sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 376 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
| 23:02.19 | dpkg | php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-16 (sarge), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB |
| 23:02.21 | azeem | kaiSVK: please /msg the bot |
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| 23:02.30 | azeem | kaiSVK: or use packages.debian.org/<package> |
| 23:02.31 | jshriver | Greetings |
| 23:02.37 | kaiSVK | azeem: ok ok :) |
| 23:02.49 | jshriver | I just installed the latest kernel from debian, and now I can't get my mouse to work in X... /dev/input/ doesnt exist |
| 23:02.49 | unfo | kaiSVK: start with stable. also, the apache package you want is apache2 not apache jshriver hi |
| 23:02.56 | jshriver | but if I boot back with 2.4 it works fine |
| 23:03.01 | unfo | jshriver: stable or testing? |
| 23:03.03 | jshriver | stable |
| 23:03.13 | unfo | jshriver: udev is installed? |
| 23:03.29 | kaiSVK | unfo: is there some way to "upgrade" some stable stuff to be little bit more ... new :) |
| 23:03.30 | jshriver | *shrug* how do I find out.. |
| 23:03.39 | unfo | kaiSVK: /msg dpkg backports |
| 23:03.41 | ice_1963 | kaiSVk, you don't know debian :) |
| 23:03.46 | pollywog | the script that starts ssh-agent is part of the x11-common package in Etch |
| 23:03.50 | stoned | jshriver, modprobe mousedev ? |
| 23:04.08 | jshriver | that didnt give me any errors |
| 23:04.08 | kaiSVK | ice_1963: I dont understand ... maybe I dont understand the philosophy ... |
| 23:04.12 | stoned | good |
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| 23:04.15 | stoned | now your mouse works |
| 23:04.18 | jshriver | but no /dev/input |
| 23:04.29 | unfo | jshriver: as root: apt-get install udev |
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| 23:04.41 | jshriver | udev is already the newest version |
| 23:05.07 | unfo | jshriver: did you build the kernel yourself? |
| 23:05.14 | jshriver | no |
| 23:05.24 | jshriver | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 |
| 23:05.53 | unfo | jshriver: do you need 2.6 for any particular reason? |
| 23:05.58 | jshriver | also alsa doesnt work, but I can work on that later.. mostly concerned with the lack of mouse support lol |
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| 23:06.14 | overflow | Hey there |
| 23:06.23 | unfo | hi |
| 23:06.29 | jshriver | hrm... not that comes to mind.. but it is nice to have a newer kernel. I've been using the 2.6 series for a year or two with little problems.. just the occasional hiccup |
| 23:06.47 | lws | anyone know what package to use to burn DVDs under debian stable? |
| 23:06.53 | kaiSVK | so I should stay some time with stable and then I can upgrade to testing for example ? |
| 23:06.54 | jshriver | nerolinux is nice |
| 23:06.59 | unfo | jshriver: if you have problems with 2.6, go with 2.4. it is rock-solud reliable. |
| 23:07.08 | unfo | kaiSVK: correct. wait a year, I advise. |
| 23:07.08 | nkircthree | unfo that doesn't give me any insight on that link, thanks anyways |
| 23:07.18 | RevSlowmo | Where is debian's mysql db stored |
| 23:07.19 | unfo | nkircthree: no? |
| 23:07.19 | kaiSVK | unfo: what a year can change ? |
| 23:07.21 | jshriver | aye, but I was using 2.6.8 for a while, but had some problems and re-installed... |
| 23:07.22 | nkircthree | unfo no ? |
| 23:07.32 | unfo | nkircthree: read all 10 results. |
| 23:07.36 | nkircthree | unfo i'm not trying to use an iso .. |
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| 23:07.43 | jshriver | regardless 2.6 should work :( |
| 23:07.51 | unfo | nkircthree: you dont have a working iso at all? |
| 23:07.55 | unfo | jshriver: it should. |
| 23:07.57 | lws | I want something that's command line. I I want to essentially pipe mkisofs into something like cdrecord |
| 23:08.03 | lws | But it seems that stable doesn't include dvdrecord |
| 23:08.04 | jshriver | it should and use to.. hehe.. just not sure why it's not now |
| 23:08.10 | unfo | !dvdrecord |
| 23:08.10 | dpkg | it has been said that dvdrecord is a hacked version of cdrecord within dvdrtools able to burn dvds |
| 23:08.30 | zebalin4 | #flood |
| 23:08.33 | lws | dvdrtools is missing from stable it seems, or maybe I'm confused about what it's in? |
| 23:08.34 | MatBoy | can I download still the nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel for etch somewhere ? |
| 23:08.39 | unfo | lws: cdrecord can burn dvds IIRC. |
| 23:08.47 | unfo | MatBoy: what game are you trying to run again? |
| 23:08.53 | unfo | zebalin4: /join #flood |
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| 23:09.30 | zebalin4 | Folks: I have Kaffiene and w32codecs but can't play quicktime .mov file. I get the pasted in #flood. Any help is appreciated. |
| 23:09.36 | jshriver | any other tips? if udev is installed but still now /dev/input? |
| 23:09.43 | MatBoy | unfo, nothing but I have a lot of problems without these packages |
| 23:09.44 | nkircthree | unfo i have a running linux system i wanted to install from ... |
| 23:09.44 | unfo | !quicktime |
| 23:09.45 | dpkg | quicktime is, like, apple's multimedia file format, at http://www.quicktime.apple.com/ or Quicktime for Linux (Low level Quicktime library for *NIX), section Development/Libraries, is LGPL. Stable: 1.1.2, Development: none. http://apps.freshmeat.net/homepage/919133076/ |
| 23:09.45 | jshriver | I also need this to get my scanner and printer working eventually |
| 23:10.05 | unfo | zebalin4: dunno, ask in #kde maybe? |
| 23:10.25 | zebalin4 | maybe. never anyone there who knows anything though. |
| 23:10.32 | nkircthree | unfo .. i guess you left.. thanks anyways |
| 23:10.35 | unfo | jshriver: maybe google, or ask again. |
| 23:10.38 | unfo | nkircthree: what? |
| 23:10.47 | pollywog | it would seem that Sarge also has a script to start ssh-agent but it is not being sourced for some reason relating to an OPTIONFILE |
| 23:10.51 | pollywog | any ideas? |
| 23:10.52 | unfo | MatBoy: use vesa! |
| 23:10.52 | jshriver | ok another problem: why do I get snd_ctl_open failed errors when I try alsamixer... alsaconf runs fine and I can find my sound card.. |
| 23:11.05 | jshriver | unfo: I dont have /dev/input so I can't get my USB mouse to work under X.. |
| 23:11.06 | MatBoy | unfo, why and how ? |
| 23:11.40 | pollywog | zebalin4: have you tried mplayer? |
| 23:11.40 | unfo | pollywog: see /etc/X11/Xsession.options maybe? |
| 23:11.48 | pollywog | unfo: tnx |
| 23:11.49 | thingfish | I don't know much at all, but not having a /dev/input seems not right to me. |
| 23:11.49 | kaiSVK | what about my ati X200 card ... I doubt it will be supported ... :/ |
| 23:12.05 | unfo | MatBoy: vesa is the universal X video driver that works on every single video card. |
| 23:12.08 | unfo | kaiSVK: it is supported. |
| 23:12.16 | unfo | thingfish: i think so too. |
| 23:12.19 | thingfish | although I guess if you didn't choose /dev/input/mice during setup, you might not have it. |
| 23:12.23 | MatBoy | unfo, I just want to use the nvidia again, also because I use Xinerama |
| 23:12.32 | kaiSVK | unfo: with 3D support too ? with ati drivers ? |
| 23:12.33 | unfo | pollywog: zebalin4: mplayer is not in debian yet due to politics. :( |
| 23:12.34 | zebalin4 | pollywog: don't have mplayer |
| 23:12.34 | pollywog | unfo: yes that's it and it is set to use-ssh-agent |
| 23:12.37 | unfo | kaiSVK: yes |
| 23:12.49 | MatBoy | unfo, but where can I get these packages :) |
| 23:12.50 | kaiSVK | I will try it tomorrow ... |
| 23:12.52 | pollywog | unfo: yes but it's at Marrillat |
| 23:12.54 | unfo | kaiSVK: you have to set up the drivers yourself though. |
| 23:12.59 | kaiSVK | hope I wont be dissapointed ... |
| 23:13.03 | Brox | my xfig gives me "sh: fig2dv not found" when i try to export a file as anything at all. This means: (1) the package is broken - how do i get someone to repair it (i have no idea how to myself)? (2) where can i get fig2dev from? |
| 23:13.06 | zebalin4 | These kaffiene errors make any sense to anyone: http://kanotix.pastebin.com/748036 |
| 23:13.12 | unfo | pollywog: true. |
| 23:13.23 | unfo | zebalin4: try xine |
| 23:13.30 | pollywog | Xine is good too |
| 23:13.34 | zebalin4 | kaffiene is a front-end for zine. |
| 23:13.35 | pollywog | and no politics |
| 23:13.47 | unfo | Brox: try this: apt-cache search fig2dev |
| 23:13.50 | kaiSVK | ok unfo thingfish thanx for chat ... hope to see you both tomorrow when installing Deb for the firs time ... I will let u know how am I with Deb :) thanx again.. |
| 23:13.53 | zebalin4 | I'm on the Apple site and when page comes up so does kaffiene but it crashes in firefox. |
| 23:13.57 | unfo | zebalin4: use xine anyway? |
| 23:14.10 | zebalin4 | unfo: ok. worth a try. |
| 23:14.10 | Brox | unfo: did it, found nothing |
| 23:14.11 | unfo | zebalin4: it is recommended you use a sound wrapper on firefox. |
| 23:14.19 | thingfish | kaiSVK: later |
| 23:14.21 | zebalin4 | sound wrapper? |
| 23:14.33 | Brox | unfo: e.g. fig2ps, g text & transfig |
| 23:14.41 | unfo | Brox: use one of those. |
| 23:14.45 | jshriver | Is there anyway to fix it? Shouldnt require a FFR |
| 23:14.50 | MatBoy | Why has they removed the nvidia-drivers and sources from Etch... just when I need it :( |
| 23:14.57 | unfo | Brox: apt-cache show fig2ps transfig for more info |
| 23:15.09 | unfo | MatBoy: you should not be using etch. Use Stable. |
| 23:15.11 | thingfish | yeah man etch and sid are like forget installing them right now. |
| 23:15.42 | MatBoy | unfo, again: Etch does not run on my hardware, it even can be installed |
| 23:15.46 | MatBoy | can not |
| 23:16.17 | pollywog | I could not install Sarge on one of my machines but Etch installed |
| 23:16.20 | unfo | MatBoy: use stable. |
| 23:16.21 | thingfish | I used to be caught up in that "got to have the newest version" thing. Trouble is, until that software's been around a while, it's buggy as hell. |
| 23:16.21 | MatBoy | unfo, and moving from etch to stable is no option with a downgrade :p |
| 23:16.26 | kaiSVK | I am gonna download ... what is r0 r1 r2 ? |
| 23:16.29 | unfo | MatBoy: you should not be using etch. |
| 23:16.34 | MatBoy | pollywog, indeed.... the same here |
| 23:16.35 | unfo | kaiSVK: r2 is newest. |
| 23:16.42 | Brox | unfo: ok sorry for being rude - so does that mean apt-cache search only gives me packages that include the package i was looking for? So i always win if apt-cache search give me anything at all? |
| 23:16.43 | MatBoy | unfo, are you deaf ? |
| 23:16.52 | kaiSVK | unfo: so I should download it ? |
| 23:16.58 | thingfish | MatBoy: there's a sarge installer with a 2.6.15 kernel, if that would help. |
| 23:17.15 | unfo | Brox: sorta. see the Apt Howto (it's on Google) for more info, or ask the whole channel, not just me. :) |
| 23:17.19 | unfo | !apt-file |
| 23:17.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt-file is util used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also auto-apt and pdo, or use apt-file: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename |
| 23:17.20 | thingfish | kaiSVK: no, 3.r2 |
| 23:17.26 | nkircthree | unfo .. those links don't offer any solution, but thanks anyways |
| 23:17.26 | nkircthree | unfo they replicate the problem, but they don't seem to have any solution either? |
| 23:17.26 | thingfish | aack 3.1r2 |
| 23:17.33 | MatBoy | thingfish, the installed crashed I thought... it never wanted to boot in any way |
| 23:17.34 | jshriver | what is the diff in usbmgr and udev? |
| 23:17.40 | Brox | unfo: okay sorry - sounded like it |
| 23:17.42 | MatBoy | pollywog, what was your problem with it ? |
| 23:17.43 | kaiSVK | ok |
| 23:17.50 | thingfish | MatBoy: did you try the 2.6.15 installer? |
| 23:17.54 | unfo | nkircthree: use the Next in Thread links near the bottom for more details. |
| 23:18.04 | thingfish | gospodu pomolimsa |
| 23:18.07 | pollywog | I don't recall exactly at what point the installer failed |
| 23:18.08 | unfo | ? |
| 23:18.13 | thingfish | sorry nm |
| 23:18.18 | kaiSVK | its two iso DVDs ? :) |
| 23:18.22 | pollywog | it could have been a problem with reiserfs though |
| 23:18.23 | thingfish | yes |
| 23:18.30 | MatBoy | thingfish, I thought I did... was busy with it for 2 days... I also could not install CentOS on it... not any Distro of them |
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| 23:18.36 | thingfish | kaiSVK: just about any piece of software you could ever want. |
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| 23:18.38 | pollywog | reiserfs has broken down on me on several machines |
| 23:18.48 | pollywog | so I switched one machine to ext3 |
| 23:18.49 | unfo | MatBoy: you can downgrade. you must delete everything but /home and reinstall to, though. |
| 23:18.52 | thingfish | MatBoy: man what kind of hardware do you have? |
| 23:18.55 | unfo | !reiserfs |
| 23:18.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
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| 23:19.13 | MatBoy | unfo, yes that is a normal install |
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| 23:19.25 | MatBoy | unfo, I have no time for it :) |
| 23:19.29 | zinx | reiserfs only has good performance in reiser's benchmarks |
| 23:19.30 | pollywog | I am an ex-fan of reiserfs |
| 23:19.40 | unfo | MatBoy: sorry :( |
| 23:19.51 | MatBoy | unfo, I will boot the old kernel again :) |
| 23:19.57 | unfo | MatBoy: if you want support, the easiest way is to go back to stable. |
| 23:20.05 | neurocyte | I am also an ex-fan (but wiser) of reiserfs |
| 23:20.06 | MatBoy | I hope etch will be stable very soon |
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| 23:20.15 | thingfish | I've tried reiserfs twice. Twice I've had catastrophic data loss because of it. |
| 23:20.16 | MatBoy | unfo, again... it does not run on the hardware |
| 23:20.17 | MatBoy | :) |
| 23:20.25 | unfo | MatBoy: why not again? |
| 23:20.31 | unfo | !thingfish++ |
| 23:20.38 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:20.41 | neurocyte | let's start a self help group for reiserfs users :P |
| 23:21.00 | unfo | alt.reiserfs.recovery :) |
| 23:21.12 | neurocyte | lol |
| 23:21.20 | unfo | !asr |
| 23:21.20 | dpkg | well, asr is alt.sysadmin.recovery, the newsgroup for recovering system administrators. There are man pages! Add 'deb http://ftp.cc.com.au/pub/debian unstable main' to your sources.list, then run 'apt-get update; apt-get install manpages-asr', or the scary devil monastery |
| 23:21.30 | jshriver | How else can I use or create /dev/input/mice? |
| 23:21.36 | pollywog | I did have Xandros installed on the machine that would not install Sarge but installed Etch, which just makes it more weird |
| 23:21.47 | unfo | MatBoy: what was missing in sarge? |
| 23:21.48 | thingfish | at the end of that they should put, "...and oh - BYOB." |
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| 23:22.04 | unfo | !asr is also ...and oh - BYOB. |
| 23:22.04 | dpkg | unfo: okay |
| 23:22.17 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:22.26 | MatBoy | unfo, just... hardwaresupport |
| 23:22.31 | unfo | MatBoy: lspci |
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| 23:23.01 | unfo | MatBoy: what hardware is unsupported? maybe we can help you. |
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| 23:24.42 | tuxedup | at present in the testing branch, are the qt dev mt packaes needed for compiling kde/qt sources conflicting with the x-window-system an other x server packages? |
| 23:24.51 | neurocyte | g'night all |
| 23:24.51 | nkircthree | unfo .. even using the next in thread option, it isnt offering solutions? |
| 23:24.56 | MatBoy | unfo, I have tried with persons here those 2 days to find out what was happening... could not find it... so Etch was the only option |
| 23:24.56 | nkircthree | gnite neurocyte |
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| 23:25.16 | pollywog | I do not see xine in Etch |
| 23:25.26 | pollywog | correction Sarge |
| 23:25.34 | unfo | pollywog: it's in one of the libxine packages. |
| 23:25.41 | unfo | its annoying, i know. |
| 23:25.41 | pollywog | I see it now thanks |
| 23:25.57 | pollywog | xine-ui |
| 23:25.58 | thingfish | pollywog: totem's kind of the media player of choice, if you ask me. |
| 23:26.07 | unfo | totem rocks! |
| 23:26.07 | MatBoy | unfo, the only question that I still have is when I reinstall with Sarge (if it's possible again with the 2.6.15) I can login with the same desktop as I let everything on /home |
| 23:26.18 | unfo | MatBoy: yes. |
| 23:26.26 | unfo | AFAIK it should stay the same. |
| 23:26.27 | pollywog | totem did not work for me last time I tried it, is it in Sarge? |
| 23:26.33 | MatBoy | unfo, OK, than I will do that next week when I have time :) |
| 23:26.36 | unfo | pollywog: yes |
| 23:26.37 | thingfish | pollywog: yep |
| 23:26.42 | unfo | MatBoy: good plan. |
| 23:26.50 | pollywog | k I will try it again |
| 23:26.52 | unfo | !MatBoy++ |
| 23:26.54 | MatBoy | it's late here ! I'm going to sleep |
| 23:27.01 | thingfish | nite nite |
| 23:27.08 | nkircthree | stoned thanks for your help, i'm gonna call it a night i think |
| 23:27.08 | unfo | MatBoy: let us know how the downgrade went. |
| 23:27.10 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:27.31 | nkircthree | unfo thanks for ignoring me :), i'm gonna call it a night, bye |
| 23:27.36 | unfo | MatBoy: the ++ is for karma. |
| 23:27.36 | MatBoy | unfo, Etch was only because I needed my workstation... I always used sarge before.. that was stable testing :D |
| 23:27.37 | unfo | nkircthree: |
| 23:27.51 | MatBoy | unfo, my kisses are also sweet :P |
| 23:28.01 | unfo | nkircthree: did you see the snippet beardy pasted? |
| 23:28.03 | thingfish | tsk kiddies now along to bed. |
| 23:28.07 | MatBoy | unfo, but thanks ! |
| 23:28.09 | nkircthree | unfo no i didnt get to see beardy's snippet. |
| 23:28.22 | GeorgeAScot1 | can i replace xfree86 with x.org ? |
| 23:28.24 | unfo | !rube goldberg install |
| 23:28.25 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 23:28.28 | nkircthree | in fact, it isnt anywhere in my backscroll. |
| 23:28.38 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: why?? |
| 23:28.38 | nkircthree | !insult |
| 23:28.50 | GeorgeAScot1 | because i don't like it unfo |
| 23:28.53 | unfo | nkircthree: it was a joke. :) |
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| 23:29.03 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: Xorg takes 2x as long to start up. |
| 23:29.11 | initiate | Hello,how do I remove the login box in the beginning when the x starts? |
| 23:29.17 | unfo | login box? |
| 23:29.24 | unfo | nkircthree: you need a real ISO. |
| 23:29.27 | softwork | hello, how i change amd64_agp to nvidia_agp? i have a nforce3 |
| 23:29.31 | thingfish | maybe he means like gdm or xdm or kdm. |
| 23:29.37 | softwork | please help |
| 23:29.41 | softwork | :/ |
| 23:29.42 | unfo | initiate: you want autologin? |
| 23:29.43 | unfo | !please |
| 23:29.44 | dpkg | Do I look like an information bitch, unfo? |
| 23:29.45 | initiate | unfo, when it asks you for the login name and password and doesn't allow you to login as root |
| 23:29.56 | thingfish | !pretty please |
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| 23:30.04 | unfo | initiate: "doesn't allow you to login as root"?? |
| 23:30.15 | unfo | softwork: what game? |
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| 23:30.21 | stew | initiate: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 23:30.25 | thingfish | oh initiate shame shame |
| 23:30.30 | initiate | thanks stew |
| 23:30.36 | GeorgeAScot1 | ok then... unfo, could you tell me where i can add xmodmap -e "pointer = blah blah etc" |
| 23:30.39 | pollywog | initiate: kdm? |
| 23:30.41 | unfo | initiate: you want text mode login?? |
| 23:30.42 | thingfish | initiate: log in as regular user, then open a terminal and su to root as needed. |
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| 23:30.56 | GeorgeAScot1 | so i don't have to type it in the terminal every time i boot |
| 23:31.01 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: man xmodmap :) |
| 23:31.13 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: i am serious. what game are you trying to run? |
| 23:31.26 | softwork | i have ati graphics and my board have chipset nforce3, in lsmod i see aspgart ---> fglrx, amd64_agp, it ati graphic i dont have 3d aceleration |
| 23:31.33 | unfo | softwork: what game? |
| 23:31.42 | softwork | game? |
| 23:31.50 | unfo | you want 3d. |
| 23:31.53 | softwork | in fglrxinfo |
| 23:31.54 | GeorgeAScot1 | im trying to be able to browse the internet without having to worry about accedentily hitting the scroll wheel and being jumped back to five pages prior |
| 23:31.56 | softwork | no |
| 23:31.59 | softwork | i dont have 3d |
| 23:32.09 | softwork | in fglrxinfo i have mesa glx indirect |
| 23:32.14 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: ah. are you on stable (sarge)? |
| 23:32.23 | GeorgeAScot1 | yeah |
| 23:32.26 | unfo | softwork: what game do you want to run? |
| 23:32.31 | softwork | all games |
| 23:32.35 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: stable only has |
| 23:32.39 | unfo | xfree86. |
| 23:32.39 | softwork | doom3 |
| 23:32.41 | unfo | !backports |
| 23:32.42 | dpkg | well, backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 23:32.55 | softwork | i dont have 3d aceleration :/ |
| 23:33.07 | unfo | softwork: what did you try? |
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| 23:33.20 | softwork | doom3 |
| 23:33.28 | GeorgeAScot1 | i'd also like to know where i can find an op to kick my old self off of here... GeorgeAScott has been away for about a week.. and it's my registered nick... |
| 23:33.29 | softwork | i instal ti drivers |
| 23:33.32 | unfo | softwork: no, did you try to fix it yourself? :) |
| 23:33.33 | softwork | ati drivers |
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| 23:33.43 | DaDave | hi all |
| 23:33.46 | unfo | !ops kick GeorgeAScott (idle for a week) |
| 23:33.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: unfo complains about: kick GeorgeAScott (idle for a week) |
| 23:33.56 | DaDave | how can i get a list off all connected IDE and SCSI drives on a linux box? |
| 23:34.05 | unfo | GeorgeAScot1: register GeorgeAScot1? :) |
| 23:34.07 | helix | GeorgeAScot1: if it is your registered nick, you can recover it |
| 23:34.12 | azeem | unfo: huh? |
| 23:34.21 | helix | GeorgeAScot1: we can't actually boot it offline |
| 23:34.22 | unfo | azeem: he doesnt know how to recover his nick. |
| 23:34.30 | azeem | unfo: then educate him |
| 23:34.35 | azeem | no need to call the ops |
| 23:34.40 | unfo | azeem: point. |
| 23:34.42 | helix | GeorgeAScot1: /msg nickserv recover nick passwd |
| 23:34.44 | helix | I think |
| 23:34.49 | dondelelcaro | GeorgeAScot1: uh... if the nick is registered, use /msg nickserv ghost or whatever it is. |
| 23:34.53 | helix | or /msg nickserv release nick passwd |
| 23:34.56 | marco13185 | how do I install Rlimits-aware PAM in Sid? |
| 23:35.02 | unfo | marco13185: sid? |
| 23:35.05 | GeorgeAScot1 | hmm.. i'll try all of the above |
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| 23:35.09 | unfo | :) |
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| 23:35.12 | marco13185 | unfo, yes, Unstable |
| 23:35.15 | helix | GeorgeAScot1: also, /msg nickserv help |
| 23:35.19 | helix | in case we all got it wrong |
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| 23:35.22 | marco13185 | unfo, is there any package, like in ubuntu |
| 23:35.28 | unfo | marco13185: unstable is unsupported. |
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| 23:35.42 | azeem | unfo: oh come on, we tolerate *questions* about unstable |
| 23:35.47 | kaiSVK | unfo: what about testing ;) |
| 23:35.50 | azeem | there's no guarantee about *answers* |
| 23:35.50 | unfo | azeem: 19:31 < marco13185> unfo, is there any package, like in ubuntu |
| 23:35.57 | unfo | :) |
| 23:35.58 | thingfish | hehe azeem |
| 23:36.00 | kaiSVK | unfo: it looks like nice compromis :) |
| 23:36.09 | Rez | GeorgeAScot1: idle connections will not stay on for a week. |
| 23:36.10 | marco13185 | unfo, hmm, asking if there's a package, doesn't take much effort to help |
| 23:36.10 | unfo | kaiSVK: what does? |
| 23:36.14 | azeem | unfo: that doesn't imply marco13185 is running something else than Debian |
| 23:36.22 | marco13185 | I'm using debian sid |
| 23:36.27 | unfo | azeem: it is a strong indicator of newbiehood. |
| 23:36.33 | unfo | :) |
| 23:36.35 | eleftherios | anyone knows why apt-get upgrade holds back mysql-client, mysql-server on Etch? |
| 23:36.42 | dondelelcaro | unfo: that's fine; you can always /ignore people if you want |
| 23:36.47 | kaiSVK | unfo: I am still thinking about using something new ... rather than stable and TOO OLD :/ |
| 23:36.49 | azeem | unfo: so ignore |
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| 23:36.57 | unfo | eleftherios: dunno, try this: sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server |
| 23:37.13 | marco13185 | has anyone had any success install Rlimits-Aware PAM though? |
| 23:37.17 | thingfish | kaiSVK: true. you would only use sarge if you actually needed to depend on things working. |
| 23:37.21 | unfo | dondelelcaro: azeem: thats true, but i really wish the conversation about sid was moved to the proper channel. :) |
| 23:37.52 | initiate | How do I change the ownership of a dir/subdirs? |
| 23:37.52 | ekkikrist | bah |
| 23:37.52 | unfo | initiate: man chown |
| 23:37.52 | GeorgeAScott | thank you for the lesson |
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| 23:37.52 | initiate | Thx unfo |
| 23:37.52 | marco13185 | unfo, there's a channel just for sid? |
| 23:37.52 | kaiSVK | hmm ... I heard about people using unstable without problems .... |
| 23:37.52 | dondelelcaro | unfo: uh... this is the proper channel... |
| 23:37.54 | calmar | chown -R user:group ... |
| 23:37.54 | azeem | unfo: and the proper channel would be what? |
| 23:37.55 | eleftherios | unfo, I am afraid if I do this I might break something on the server. It is probably holding the upgrades back for a reason... |
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| 23:38.17 | unfo | azeem: channel #beginner :) |
| 23:38.32 | kaiSVK | I would think about stable only for server or something ... |
| 23:38.39 | kaiSVK | but not on desktop/laptop |
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| 23:38.49 | unfo | kaiSVK: start out with stable. we are not joking. |
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| 23:39.15 | unfo | eleftherios: I'm not sure. |
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| 23:39.20 | chillvnc | just curious if anyone has any thoughts, my server was up for 62 days, before I shut it down during a power outtage. The shutdown was clean, it turned itself off. My UPS battery was just replaced. Now it seems to crash after 1-5 hours of use. Any thoughts ?? |
| 23:39.31 | unfo | eleftherios: I did it a month ago, and it didn't break anything for me. |
| 23:39.41 | kaiSVK | unfo: I am not ... I just know what linux is ... why should I use KDE 3.3.2 ? Last seen in on SuSE 9.1 or 9.2 ? :) |
| 23:39.59 | eleftherios | unfo, I wouldn't like to do it before I know the reasons apt is holding these two packages back |
| 23:40.13 | quitte_ | kaiSVK: try testing. unstable is what the name says |
| 23:40.15 | unfo | kaiSVK: because Debian stable is rock-solid reliable. see also www.backports.org |
| 23:40.21 | stew | eleftherios: /msg dpkg held back |
| 23:40.30 | thingfish | !tell kaiSVK about why debian |
| 23:40.40 | rrk | anyone around to help with an apt |
| 23:40.46 | rrk | problem |
| 23:40.47 | dondelelcaro | rrk: just ask your question |
| 23:40.54 | unfo | !tell rrk about ask |
| 23:41.17 | unfo | thingfish: cool! /me goes to see http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 23:41.34 | unfo | mentor: what? |
| 23:41.35 | thingfish | oh yes that's a good read. |
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| 23:41.49 | rrk | i have a problem with libc6-dev and libc6 i can not clear the dependantcy problem |
| 23:42.02 | dondelelcaro | !tell rrk -about bat |
| 23:42.04 | mentor | unfo: for the ops call :) |
| 23:42.09 | rrk | i have run apt-get i-f install and dpkg --configure -a |
| 23:42.10 | dondelelcaro | rrk: follow those instructions and give us the output |
| 23:42.15 | unfo | mentor: sorry. |
| 23:42.40 | initiate | unfo, chown initiate -hR /home/initiate/music should do it,right? |
| 23:42.49 | thingfish | damn, it's going to rain - there goes my plans to grill some chicken outdoors. |
| 23:42.55 | unfo | initiate: should. try it. use ls -l to check if it worked. |
| 23:43.04 | unfo | !patio |
| 23:43.18 | thingfish | !no patio just sidewalk |
| 23:43.26 | eleftherios | stew, thank you |
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| 23:43.46 | unfo | marco13185: you switched so soon? :) |
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| 23:43.56 | initiate | unfo, it says I`m the owner now,but I still see them locked and can't delete them ... do I have to reboot? |
| 23:44.03 | marco13185 | unfo, err, no, I still can't figure out why only root can play sound |
| 23:44.10 | _Atomo64_ | hey guys... how can I get gtk-scintilla in testing? |
| 23:44.11 | marco13185 | my user is part of the audio group |
| 23:44.23 | unfo | initiate: dunno. you can paste the exact message, or just try rebooting. |
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| 23:44.27 | kaiSVK | thingfish: hmmm ... thanx but still ... why shouldnt I stay with ubuntu on my laptop ... its just fine ... and 6.06 has pretty new stuff |
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| 23:44.34 | quitte_ | marco13185: did you logout and back in after adding the user? |
| 23:44.35 | eleftherios | unfo, I think it is holding mysql-client & mysql-server back because the current versions are 4.1 and the upgrade will install 5.0. I think it is not safe to automatically move the existing databases from 4.1 to 5.0 and this is why it is holding this upgrade back. |
| 23:44.42 | thingfish | kaiSVK: dude, do what you want. |
| 23:44.45 | marco13185 | quitte_, i added this user during the install |
| 23:44.53 | azeem | kaiSVK: feel free to stay with ubuntu, but please ask questions about that in #ubuntu |
| 23:44.55 | rrk | dondelelcaro what instructions i can post to flood either the apt or dpkg info |
| 23:44.58 | unfo | eleftherios: ah. that makes sense. I just use mysql for a test mediawiki I run. |
| 23:44.59 | initiate | marco13185, try the volume level? |
| 23:45.07 | marco13185 | initiate, root can hear |
| 23:45.13 | unfo | kaiSVK: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 23:45.13 | kaiSVK | thingfish: ok ok ... just dont eat me at once :P |
| 23:45.19 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:45.29 | zippp | if I have 2 interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, 1 dhcp and 1 static can I set it to use the static (eth0) as the default route and not overwrite /etc/resolv.conf when eth1 gets dhcp? |
| 23:45.30 | marco13185 | initiate, and sound apps don't even play mp3s when clicked on |
| 23:45.37 | marco13185 | it doesn't even start |
| 23:45.41 | marco13185 | it just can't play it |
| 23:45.41 | kaiSVK | thingfish: hope I didnt insulted u ... |
| 23:45.44 | unfo | marco13185: you should try stable. :) |
| 23:45.50 | kaiSVK | ok ... see ya then bye bye all |
| 23:45.51 | initiate | marco13185, same thing happened to me yesterday after a fresh install - the root can hear,but when logged with the normal user the sound level was 0 |
| 23:45.56 | thingfish | kaiSVK: what? hah, no way. |
| 23:46.00 | initiate | dunno then marco13185 |
| 23:46.27 | marco13185 | :( |
| 23:46.40 | unfo | marco13185: i am very glad to help. if. |
| 23:47.00 | unfo | marco13185: also, do you know how to do a turbo install? |
| 23:47.07 | marco13185 | unfo, nope |
| 23:47.07 | rrk | -about bat |
| 23:47.10 | unfo | all, how do I add a see to the bot? |
| 23:47.12 | quitte_ | unfo: in little more than 6 months etch will be stable. at least thats a goal. if it's not for production i hardly see a reason to not use etch. |
| 23:47.22 | unfo | !debconf_priority=critical |
| 23:47.23 | dpkg | well, debconf_priority=critical is a way to get a quick and easy install. when you boot the Debian install CD, type: linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical and it will skip all the useless questions. |
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| 23:47.37 | unfo | quitte_: for you, fine. for newbies, no. |
| 23:47.38 | marco13185 | explain unfo, what is a turbo install |
| 23:47.49 | dondelelcaro | rrk: dpkg /msg'ed you some instructions; that's what you want to paste |
| 23:47.54 | unfo | marco13185: see above. do you know what the bootprompt is? |
| 23:47.57 | dondelelcaro | rrk: use #flood or channels.debian.net/paste |
| 23:48.09 | marco13185 | unfo, yes, I use expert mode so I can choose unstable |
| 23:48.18 | rrk | ok thanks |
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| 23:48.22 | unfo | marco13185: do not use unstable. |
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| 23:48.31 | unfo | marco13185: when you see the large Debian logo right when you boot the install CD, type linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical |
| 23:48.40 | marco13185 | unfo, I know what it is |
| 23:48.41 | unfo | you will save a lot of time. |
| 23:48.44 | marco13185 | I often use the expert option, lol |
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| 23:48.48 | marco13185 | unfo, ok |
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| 23:48.48 | GeorgeAScott | so... unfo... not to be a pain... but the manpage for xmodmap doesn't really tell me anything about a way to have it done at boot. |
| 23:48.54 | marco13185 | I might do a reinstall tonight |
| 23:48.57 | unfo | GeorgeAScott: 1 sec |
| 23:48.57 | marco13185 | I'm getting sick of this shit |
| 23:49.13 | marco13185 | unfo, what do you use, etch? |
| 23:49.24 | quitte_ | unfo: i haven't seen marco act like a total newbie so far. i agree he shouldn't use sid. but i dont see why you are forcing him to use stable,either. |
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| 23:49.28 | thingfish | I just do the base install then take it from there. |
| 23:49.45 | unfo | GeorgeAScott: |
| 23:49.46 | unfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.46 | cerebroenfuga | unfo, but that way debconf installs kernel 2.4; is there a way of using priority critical but install kernel 2.6 instead? |
| 23:49.48 | cjaymes | is apache 1.3 broken? |
| 23:49.49 | unfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.01 | GeorgeAScott | yup i read that part |
| 23:50.20 | marco13185 | compared to most of you, I'm not a linux pro, but I know my way around |
| 23:50.23 | unfo | cerebroenfuga: I don't know. You could install 2.4 then apt-get later. Or ask the channel, maybe someone else knows. :) |
| 23:50.35 | stew | GeorgeAScott: run it from ~/.xsession before you start your window manager |
| 23:50.36 | GeorgeAScott | there are 90 different xmodmap files in my user dir... none of them are xmodmaprc though |
| 23:51.10 | cerebroenfuga | allright, thxs :) |
| 23:51.15 | quitte_ | marco13185: have you tried playing sound with a music app directly with xmms for example? |
| 23:51.16 | cjaymes | I'm having trouble getting php scripts to be parsed by php; the scripts come through as files, downloaded |
| 23:51.17 | unfo | GeorgeAScott: I used to use the xkeycaps util to do everything for me. |
| 23:51.23 | marco13185 | quitte_, that's exactly what I do |
| 23:51.23 | rrk | #flood |
| 23:51.28 | marco13185 | quitte_, only if I run as root |
| 23:51.38 | unfo | rrk: /join #flood |
| 23:51.40 | marco13185 | do i get sound, If I run as user, the files don't even play |
| 23:51.48 | stew | cerebroenfuga: use linux26 at the boot prompt, (hit f1 for help) |
| 23:52.01 | cerebroenfuga | stew, thanks very much |
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| 23:52.16 | quitte_ | marco13185: ok. try to load the snd-pcm-oss module. maybe that helps. or change the output plugin of xmms to alsa |
| 23:52.26 | marco13185 | quitte_, it is alsa |
| 23:52.48 | cerebroenfuga | did you try alasmixer? |
| 23:52.50 | quitte_ | marco13185: modprobe snd-pcm-oss saves a lot of trouble it gives you oss emulation |
| 23:53.00 | cerebroenfuga | may be the volume level is cero |
| 23:53.02 | stew | marco13185: it works as root but not user? make sure user is in the audio group: type "groups" and if its not listed, "adduser username audio" |
| 23:53.19 | stew | marco13185: if you have to add the user to the group, log out and back in before trying again. |
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| 23:54.27 | quitte_ | marco13185: looking at my default user - i'm not in the audio group. so really check if you really are in the audio group several times |
| 23:55.24 | jefferson | could someone help me with xawtv? i dont know how to link my card to /dev/video0 |
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| 23:56.11 | quitte_ | jefferson: you don'T have to |
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| 23:56.33 | zenwryly | How can I disable the X background image and just have it black? |
| 23:56.36 | rrk | dondelelcaro it is on flood -- was trying to update nxfree from the road via ssh something happened |
| 23:57.00 | jefferson | quitte_: it says, can't open /dev/video0: No such device |
| 23:57.09 | jefferson | xawtv -hwscan come up with |
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| 23:57.18 | jefferson | looking for available devices |
| 23:57.18 | jefferson | port 69-69 |
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| 23:57.18 | jefferson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:57.34 | jefferson | quitte_: sorry |
| 23:57.36 | quitte_ | jefferson: then there probably is no driver loaded for the card. does lsmod list the module for it? |
| 23:57.37 | lanchow | i forgot the name of this big site which hosts a huge of projects and where gnu developers meet |
| 23:57.39 | marco13185 | quitte_, stew, yep, I'm in the audio group |
| 23:57.47 | azeem | lanchow: savannah |
| 23:57.51 | azeem | lanchow: sv.gnu.org |
| 23:57.57 | azeem | (probably) |
| 23:57.58 | quitte_ | marco13185: try oss emulation |
| 23:57.58 | lanchow | thx |
| 23:58.09 | jefferson | quitte_: haha no i am using vesa for it now |
| 23:58.15 | marco13185 | quitte_, what's the command (lsmod something) to load modules? |
| 23:58.21 | PestPete | I just installed debian.. i'm use to the wonderful GUI and it apears to be missing |
| 23:58.24 | PestPete | how do I edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 23:58.31 | PestPete | I can no longer type gedit /etc/network/interfaces :P |
| 23:58.31 | azeem | PestPete: with an editor |
| 23:58.32 | quitte_ | jefferson: thats nonsense. you cannot use vesa for tv cards. |
| 23:58.46 | azeem | PestPete: alternatively, gnome-system-utils or something can do that as well |
| 23:58.48 | quitte_ | marco13185: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 23:58.50 | thingfish | PestPete: nano |
| 23:58.55 | PestPete | nano /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 23:58.56 | jefferson | quitte_: yea, i know; it is only using vesa for the video output |
| 23:59.00 | thingfish | PestPete: yes |
| 23:59.06 | jefferson | quitte_: i have never tried to use the tv in |
| 23:59.12 | thingfish | PestPete: then there's a guide down at the bottom. |
| 23:59.18 | quitte_ | jefferson: /dev/video0 is not for output. thats the device for video in |
| 23:59.22 | PestPete | thingfish, yeah thats good, it looks mildly confusing |
| 23:59.30 | thingfish | PestPete: you want gnome? or kde? or what? |
| 23:59.41 | PestPete | thingfish, I'd like grome |
| 23:59.46 | quitte_ | jefferson: xawtv is for watching tv from tv-in. so you probably dont want xawtv at all |
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| 23:59.51 | quitte_ | jefferson: wayttd |
| 23:59.55 | PestPete | thingfish, I just installed it off the net inst |
