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| 01:18.37 | Lense | are there instructions on how to use the finger pulse sensor? I haven't gotten the ecg app to measure anything |
| 01:37.30 | mmu_man | Lense: well you must be relaxed, because muscle mouvement create parasites |
| 01:37.39 | mmu_man | best is to sit in front of a table |
| 01:38.17 | mmu_man | put both arms on the table and rested, and just put a right hand finger on the large plate on the top |
| 01:38.26 | mmu_man | works for me, after like 20s |
| 01:38.51 | mmu_man | not sure there's an app for that sensor already |
| 01:38.57 | mmu_man | anyway, zz |
| 01:44.03 | mmu_man | with the bottom plates touching the left arm skin, of course :p |
| 01:44.14 | mmu_man | did I say I was sleeping |
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| 02:28.24 | Lense | thanks, but I still haven't gotten it. double checking: is my finger supposed to touch the gold parts and the black sensor? |
| 02:28.35 | Lense | also what does bias mean in this context? |
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| 02:37.47 | dos1 | I get best results when I use two fingers and I press the golden pad with one, and top right screw with the other |
| 02:38.25 | dos1 | this way it makes the best contact with the skin at the bottom |
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| 02:51.44 | Lense | ah I got it for a little bit. thanks! |
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| 08:44.44 | flo5702- | An update on yesterdays step counter discussinon: the BHI160 does count steps more or less immediately. It may take a few steps to recognize that you are now walking, but then it stay mostly in snc with the movement. The delayed updates I observed were in fact caused by clogged FreeRTOS queues and overly generous queue send timeouts. |
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| 09:14.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | clogged queues, wow |
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| 13:53.10 | erlehmann | schneider, i also want to take part in the xhain hacking thingy |
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| 15:07.47 | flo5702- | It is easy to clog a queue if nobody is reading from it :-). |
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| 17:13.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | LEL 50⬠deposit on LiIon batteries >=9V |
| 17:14.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | because those ignite the junkyards |
| 17:14.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | only a plan so far |
| 17:15.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops ECHAN, sorry |
| 17:51.41 | Stormwind_mobile | I got a 5 pack of USB-C to micro USB adapters for about 2,50â¬, and took one of them apart. Looks like a much cheaper source for USB-C plugs than cutting a 5⬠cable in half, that you have to solder wires to, anyway. |
| 17:52.42 | Stormwind_mobile | Is there some greater concept behind organizing all the software and hardware modifications that people made and will make? |
| 17:53.15 | Stormwind_mobile | Still didn't have time to dig deep, so I just ask. |
| 18:50.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Stormwind_mobile: a usb-c to micro usb sounds like only 4 wires are running to the usb c. This won't match the requirements |
| 18:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #card10badge*ecg |
| 18:55.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ecg-cable |
| 18:55.12 | infobot | ecg-cable is probably https://card10.badge.events.ccc.de/en/ecg_kit_assembly/ |
| 18:57.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Stormwind_mobile: see https://card10.badge.events.ccc.de/media/ecg/wire-meanings.jpg |
| 18:58.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | in a cable to micro-USB you reasonably would expect only black green white red aka Gnd D+ D- VBUS |
| 19:02.04 | Stormwind_mobile | It's a full USB-C plug and a female micro USB on a tiny PCB. Its totally suited. I'll post a photo, eventually. |
| 19:02.17 | Stormwind_mobile | Suitable. |
| 19:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:USB_3.0_Kabel_und_Stecker.png |
| 19:14.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | even https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Pinouts_und_Adernfarben "Vollbeschaltetes USB-3.1-Typ-C-auf-Typ-C-Kabel" |
| 19:19.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | though the cable shown in https://card10.badge.events.ccc.de/en/ecg_kit_assembly/ above is "USB 3.0 Standard / Powered" USB3-TX twisted pair (orange/pink) |
| 19:21.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess if you got a pcb with all USB-C pins routed out to get access to them, you could attach a shielded twisted pair to the right pin pair but if that's really more convebient than "cutting a 5⬠cable in half" is questionable |
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| 20:12.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | re >>that you have to solder wires to, anywayyy I think those wjould be as short as possible, max 20cm each(ideally should be shielded too) while the common twisted pair cable from USB-C to Y-fork may well be more than 1m from wrist to breast |
| 20:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/wayyy/way<</ |
| 20:55.17 | Stormwind_mobile | Well, there's room for debate which aspects are important for whom. |
| 20:55.17 | Stormwind_mobile | I'd prefer having only one location to solder instead of multiple, which need to be isolated, can break individually, etc. |
| 20:56.45 | Stormwind_mobile | It's intended as a suggestion what is possible, some hackers have to turn every penny twice, some just buy a ten-pack off amazon, and both is fine. |
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