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| 01:10.06 | spldart | Quick question related to breathing on the remaining embers of this desktop. Currently 4 gig ddr2 at 533 in linux. Hardly ever run out of it $free -m. Would I see something worth while 8 gig ddr2 at 800? Or wait till I build completely new desktop? |
| 01:10.41 | spldart | I ask cuz the ssd REALLY sped this thing up fast over conventional sata hdd. |
| 01:17.56 | blast007 | additional RAM can be used to cache data from the disk |
| 01:18.30 | spldart | true. so faster desktop experience correct? |
| 01:20.01 | spldart | Thinking of birthday gift to myself. New knife, more memory for pc, more chrome for motorcycle... No idea yet. |
| 01:22.06 | spldart | Watching youtube of linustechtips and started wondering about pc |
| 01:25.04 | blast007 | RAM is reasonably expensive these days, it seems |
| 01:25.54 | BulletCatcher | If you aren't using all of the 4 GB RAM you have, another 4 GB will only make a noticeable difference to the extent that the disk data you use will fit in that additional RAM. |
| 01:25.55 | BulletCatcher | Your SSD is already pretty fast, making the increased speed of a RAM cache less valuable. |
| 01:27.24 | spldart | Ah. Interesting. So.. Would you say the money is better spent when I build the new rig next year? |
| 01:27.41 | blast007 | depends how cheap the RAM is |
| 01:27.48 | spldart | Oh! And thanks for the input guys. |
| 01:27.55 | BulletCatcher | Hard to see clearly, the future is. </yoda> |
| 01:27.56 | spldart | Ram isn't cheap on newegg :( |
| 01:28.05 | spldart | lolz BC |
| 01:28.05 | blast007 | 8GB of DDR4 (2x4GB) is about $75 |
| 01:28.37 | spldart | 8 gig of ddr2 on newegg is FAR more expensive. And I am dealing with an ancient quad core. |
| 01:28.57 | blast007 | yeah, you don't wanna get DDR2 on an site like newegg |
| 01:29.04 | blast007 | you'd want to hit up ebay |
| 01:29.17 | spldart | Ah! Ic... Ok :) |
| 01:30.06 | blast007 | you can get 2x4GB of DDR2-800MHz for $25 on ebay |
| 01:30.34 | spldart | Oh crap! That's like, don't care, money o_O |
| 01:30.40 | spldart | Thanks for that heads up! |
| 01:31.14 | blast007 | some of these are shipped from China, and some are sponsored listings |
| 01:32.05 | spldart | Well.. My 'from China' luck has been pretty good lately. |
| 01:32.23 | blast007 | https://www.ebay.com/itm/173521567496 |
| 01:32.45 | BulletCatcher | You're seeing the law of supply and demand in effect. There isn't much demand for DDR2 any more, so new DIMMs are expensive. But DDR4 is popular and the factories are churning it out, so prices are lower. |
| 01:33.15 | blast007 | DDR4 isn't cheap right now |
| 01:33.25 | blast007 | as is DDR3 |
| 01:33.34 | blast007 | eh, I mean DDR3 isn't cheap either |
| 01:37.22 | blast007 | hmm, I guess 2x8GB of DDR4 is around $150 and DDR3 is around $115 - is that cheap? |
| 01:37.47 | BulletCatcher | Meh. It is hard to see price trends on pricewatch.com, which doesn't even list DDR4. |
| 01:38.54 | BulletCatcher | They don't even bother to show the cost per byte calcualation, which would really help comparison shopping. |
| 01:40.46 | spldart | WT! ddr2 comes in intel and amd flavors?? |
| 01:40.58 | blast007 | https://camelcamelcamel.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/product/B0134EW7G8 |
| 01:42.44 | spldart | oh. ecc non ecc thing |
| 01:43.32 | blast007 | no, that DDR2 doesn't have ECC |
| 01:44.03 | blast007 | it's probably more like how some RAM says it's for Dell or Apple computers - some RAM is tweaked/tested to work with specific stuff |
| 01:45.23 | blast007 | I can get a quad-core 3.1GHz CPU for less than 8GB of DDR4 :P |
| 01:45.44 | spldart | Ok. snap. I look up my old purchase that in this pc... hyperx 2 x 2gb ddr2 1066 But! dmidecode shows my ddr2 running at 533 |
| 01:46.34 | spldart | Ah ic blast |
| 01:47.11 | blast007 | hmm.. not super familiar with how DDR works, but is it possible they're not in the right slots and they're not doing DDR, and thus running/showing half the speed? |
| 01:48.04 | spldart | interesting. This Asrock has x2 ddr2 slots and x2 ddr3 slots. Old mobo was dying so picked this one up and migrated hardware. |
| 01:48.40 | blast007 | oh, then nvm, hard to screw that up when there's only 2 slots you can use :) |
| 01:48.48 | spldart | heh |
| 01:49.09 | spldart | So I got 8 gig max and wanted max speed. So maybe I need to diddle with bios |
| 01:49.30 | spldart | so I got a 8 gig max limit.... meant to say |
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