| 00:08.39 | JeffM | And no giant robots that come out of buildings to smash your opponents |
| 00:13.12 | macsforme | JeffM: are those all going to be static models, or will there be any animation like we have now? |
| 00:14.58 | JeffM | He parts that are animated will stay animated |
| 00:15.16 | JeffM | So wheels will still spin and treads will move |
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| 00:19.11 | blast007 | our "animations" are just moving texture cords around? |
| 00:19.31 | blast007 | or do we actually spin the geometry? |
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| 00:40.44 | JeffM | The wheels are a rotation matrix |
| 00:41.20 | JeffM | I may dynamically compute the center of rotation, or put it in an info file |
| 00:41.44 | JeffM | I would like to have a variable, or at least max number of wheels |
| 00:42.00 | JeffM | The treads are a texture matrix |
| 00:42.50 | JeffM | macsforme: Iâm trying to leave all the geometry code in one place, so the gl |
| 00:43.02 | JeffM | Update will be daisies |
| 00:43.08 | JeffM | Easy |
| 00:43.16 | JeffM | Silly ð± |
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| 02:06.02 | Zehra | hmmm, seems like implementing flag control is not as easy as I thought. |
| 02:08.21 | Zehra | if ((bz_getPlayerWins(flagData->playerID) - bz_getPlayerLosses(flagData->playerID) == 11) && (flagData->flagType != "SR") || (flagData->flagType != "GM")) |
| 02:08.39 | Zehra | I tried doing it with || and with && :p |
| 02:09.13 | Zehra | A ton of similar else if statements and I ended up with either not being able to grab flags or grabbing all flags. :P |
| 02:10.34 | Zehra | is kind of thinking of limiting high power super flags to players with high scores |
| 02:18.13 | spldart | :confused: |
| 02:21.52 | Zehra | Let me pastebin the main file. |
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| 02:24.23 | Zehra | https://pastebin.com/u82F3PUZ |
| 02:25.11 | Zehra | The logic is messed up somewhere, but I can't pinpoint where. :/ |
| 02:26.36 | JeffM | there are many problems with that code |
| 02:26.40 | JeffM | why do you hate variables? |
| 02:28.45 | Zehra | I don't seem to be able to use them very well. |
| 02:28.50 | Foo_man_choo | oh' |
| 02:29.30 | Zehra | I used a different logic before, but that didn't work. :p |
| 02:30.30 | JeffM | the main issue is that you can't compare a char* like a std::string |
| 02:30.32 | Foo_man_choo | I think I see what your trying to do but wonder why |
| 02:30.45 | Foo_man_choo | I shaddup now |
| 02:31.26 | Zehra | I'm sort of trying to limit the flags, but always permit grabbing SR or another flag if I change my mind. |
| 02:31.38 | Foo_man_choo | That much I got |
| 02:32.30 | Zehra | And like most of the time, the logic fails somewhere pretty badly and I come here looking very clueless. :p |
| 02:32.49 | allejo | variables m8 |
| 02:32.50 | JeffM | you have super basic C errors |
| 02:33.04 | JeffM | and order of ops issues |
| 02:35.04 | JeffM | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kC7S896q/ |
| 02:35.09 | JeffM | that is more like what you need |
| 02:35.29 | JeffM | you REAALLY need to take the time to understand how logical operatators work |
| 02:35.58 | JeffM | and how order of operations works |
| 02:37.38 | allejo | why not just assign each flag a minimum/maximum score? |
| 02:38.23 | JeffM | he can't get an if test to work, you want him to use a map? :) |
| 02:38.34 | Zehra | I now see how flawed my logic is. :P |
| 02:38.49 | JeffM | yeah I'd do it with a map |
| 02:39.16 | Zehra | It kind of is a variation of another game mode which worked well, minus a few issues with the implementation of it. :/ |
| 02:40.11 | Zehra | I might try to add a minimum/maximum score, but I sort of need to figure out a way to add a configuration file to it. :p |
| 02:43.43 | JeffM | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/f0TIDIoU/ |
| 02:46.32 | Zehra | Whoa. |
| 02:46.43 | Zehra | ty JeffM, you are amazing. |
| 02:51.44 | JeffM | it's pretty basic lookup |
| 02:52.15 | JeffM | this is the stuff you learn by doing basic tutorials and stuff |
| 02:57.03 | Zehra | I will spend more time with the tutorials and learn more C as I've neglected a bit on the tutorial part. |
| 02:58.46 | JeffM | I know it's not often exciting, but it helps a lot |
| 03:02.17 | JeffM | and it will take time, it's not instant |
| 03:03.11 | JeffM | at the school I went to, it's expected that everyone in any kind of computer or IT degree takes at least 22 weeks of basic programming |
| 03:03.33 | JeffM | 11 in a scripting langauge, 11 in a C-like langauge |
| 03:04.19 | Zehra | ah okay. |
| 03:04.44 | JeffM | I got to skip the first 11, but I'd been programing for 23 years |
| 03:04.54 | JeffM | but I still had to take the second 11 weeks |
| 03:08.49 | JeffM | goes to use the travesty that is the blender interface |
| 03:09.19 | Zehra | is amazed by JeffM's speed and skill at pinpointing items and solving problems |
| 03:10.25 | JeffM | that's what you get with experience, you can read the code and just see how it will execute |
| 03:11.12 | JeffM | do these look different to you ? if ( a || (b && c)) and if (a || b && c) |
| 03:13.23 | Zehra | They look sort of different, but exactly how they would react, I'd be a bit clueless. (Without any testing.) |
| 03:14.15 | JeffM | in the first one b && c is evaluated first |
| 03:14.27 | JeffM | then the results of that is tested with || a |
| 03:14.59 | JeffM | in the second a || b is evaluated first |
| 03:15.06 | JeffM | and the result is && with c |
| 03:15.24 | JeffM | so they could give willdly different results |
| 03:16.55 | Zehra | I need to spend a good amount of time reviewing the logical operators. :p |
| 03:21.32 | JeffM | boolean algebra is super important in programming, https://ryanstutorials.net/boolean-algebra-tutorial/ |
| 03:22.39 | BulletCatcher | Actually, in C && has higher precedence than || so both of those expressions would evaluate the same. |
| 03:23.01 | JeffM | heh, did I get it backwards? |
| 03:23.44 | BulletCatcher | if ((a || b) && c) would evaluate different than the one with fewer parentheses. |
| 03:24.13 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:24.20 | JeffM | I got it backwards :) |
| 03:24.55 | JeffM | I just always put parrens in, because I never trust tests with 3 parts |
| 03:25.29 | BulletCatcher | That's why gcc's -Wparentheses recommends putting parens around the && part, to reduce possible confusion at the cost of some redundancy. |
| 03:26.46 | JeffM | yeah, I'd rather be sure what's happening than worry about having the minimum number of parrens |
| 03:27.50 | BulletCatcher | Even if the original programmer writes correct code based upon the precedence rules, one that comes along later may make a mistake. Redundant parentheses can help prevent that. |
| 04:26.13 | Juesto | what did i miss |
| 04:28.50 | allejo | the world ended |
| 04:30.40 | JeffM | it's ok, the server resent it |
| 04:56.56 | Juesto | lol |
| 09:31.42 | Foo_man_choo | XD |
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| 11:37.47 | the_map | lol JeffM |
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| 20:22.30 | allejo | I may be imagining this, but I vaguely recall the cmake was brought up for discussion. did anything happen with that? |
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| 20:28.43 | blast007 | I had brought it up for dependencies at one point since it seemed that most of our dependencies on Windows supported it, but then I saw that cURL didn't recommend it |
| 20:28.48 | blast007 | message(WARNING "the curl cmake build system is poorly maintained. Be aware") |
| 20:31.36 | allejo | so it's unlikely that it'll be used? |
| 20:46.38 | blast007 | dunno |
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