00:00.22 | JeffM | https://github.com/JeffM2501/bzflag/tree/allman if anyone wants to get it and see how it looks. |
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00:32.56 | JeffM | what does fetch do in git? |
00:39.05 | blast007 | it pulls the changesets from the repo, but doesn't move your working copy to that revision |
00:40.13 | JeffM | ahh just so merge and stuff can know what it can do? |
01:03.43 | Juesto | JeffM: it's to update the downloaded copy without affecting your working stuff |
01:04.53 | Juesto | pull is a fetch but additionally applies updates to your local branch |
01:05.18 | JeffM | so it updates some database in the git dir |
01:05.53 | Juesto | yes, it updates the cache from the remote |
01:06.24 | Juesto | the .git dir is configuration, branches, index, objects and all history |
01:06.51 | Juesto | something absolutely local are notes tho |
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05:40.59 | Juesto | huh |
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16:08.46 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 opened pull request #130: Format code to allan sytle (06master...06allman) 02https://git.io/vhTs2 |
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19:42.45 | WarPig | Q: In observer info, what do Last Shot Info: Time and Deviation mean? |
19:45.45 | JeffM | the time when the shooter shot the shot, and the deviatioin is how long your client took to see it. |
19:46.21 | JeffM | actualy the deviation is the time since the previous shot |
19:46.50 | JeffM | so if the deviation for a player is consitently below the shot reload time, they may be up to something. |
19:47.07 | JeffM | but it's hard to tell, since it's all affected by your lag |
19:48.16 | WarPig | Always wondered about that, thanks. |
19:49.44 | JeffM | none of the observer info is definitive, but it may help someone make a choice. |
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19:50.59 | Juesto | ah hey |
19:51.43 | Juesto | who's the group contact of this project?? |
19:51.57 | Juesto | for irc cloaks |
19:51.58 | JeffM | proabably blast007 or timriker |
19:52.07 | JeffM | not sure if they give them out anymore |
19:52.12 | Juesto | :/ |
19:53.18 | Juesto | a cloak is mostly for showing off i guess, so I'm doubting if it's really worth having an affiliation |
19:53.37 | Juesto | as i do play but not as often |
19:53.39 | JeffM | it's pure vanity |
19:53.43 | Juesto | yeah |
20:06.42 | WarPig | A cloak is not vanity if you use your bz callsign as your irc nick. |
20:07.51 | WarPig | ...and you don't want players in the game to know your IP. |
20:09.08 | Juesto | i know |
20:09.19 | Juesto | and my game nick is Zz |
20:09.20 | Juesto | lol |
20:09.26 | Juesto | war |
20:09.44 | Juesto | WarPig: irc cloaks aren't meant to protect your ip |
20:09.47 | JeffM | Then use an irc service;) |
20:10.08 | JeffM | Iâve been very happy with IRCCloud |
20:10.31 | Juesto | i know about cloaks and how they work, it's just I'm doubting whatever should i get a bzflag one |
20:10.53 | JeffM | You already have a network one |
20:11.13 | JeffM | I canât recall the last time a bz one was given out |
20:11.18 | JeffM | I may have done it |
20:12.30 | Juesto | yeah, those network ones are easily replaced by a request from the project's group contact |
20:13.56 | JeffM | the network administrators should be able to tell you who the contact is |
20:14.57 | Juesto | uh, not really something staff managed |
20:15.05 | Juesto | i mean, they won't really tell you |
20:15.14 | JeffM | did you ask? |
20:15.25 | JeffM | they have a database of who thoe approved contacts are |
20:16.17 | JeffM | the channel founder and contact email are still tim |
20:16.56 | Juesto | i mean, they don't really disclose that to just anyone |
20:17.16 | JeffM | did you ask? |
20:18.07 | Juesto | uh i think i tried |
20:18.19 | Juesto | don't remember |
20:18.27 | Juesto | I'll pm some staff i guess |
21:15.25 | blast007 | nah, they wouldn't even tell me :) |
21:15.35 | blast007 | but the contacts are Tim and myself, afaik |
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21:41.19 | JeffM | do you even want to deal with cloaks? |
21:41.44 | blast007 | it's mostly just so someone can |
22:07.11 | JeffM | tries blast007's fancy batch file to build dependencies |
22:16.06 | JeffM | yay, allman changes didn't break anything :) |
22:19.20 | Juesto | ? |
22:19.34 | Juesto | yeah knew it |
22:19.36 | Juesto | lol |
22:19.39 | Juesto | welp |
22:20.09 | Juesto | blast007: so which cloaks are available? :) |
22:20.43 | Juesto | are the project/solution version fix committed yet? |
22:29.16 | blast007 | yes |
22:30.12 | Juesto | lol mode changed from 644 to 755 too |
22:31.19 | Juesto | hmm really 15.0.0.0? |
22:31.45 | blast007 | Visual Studio 2017 is version 15.0 |
22:32.46 | Juesto | apparently not, rtm was 14.10 apparently |
22:33.11 | Juesto | yeah since visual studio 2003 project version been the next number |
22:33.34 | Juesto | vs 7.1 = 8, vs8 = 9 |
22:34.10 | Juesto | sigh |
22:35.36 | blast007 | 2015 is 14, 2017 is 15 |
22:35.44 | blast007 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio#2017 |
22:36.28 | Juesto | ah |
22:39.34 | Juesto | blast007: but it's a bunch of numbers not just "15.0.0.0" |
22:39.57 | Juesto | but '15.xxxx.x.x.x' |
22:40.03 | blast007 | and? |
22:40.31 | Juesto | sigh, nvm its just stupidly minor |
22:44.47 | Juesto | blast007: may i pm you? |
22:45.09 | JeffM | Juesto: I just |
22:45.14 | JeffM | Picked a number that |
22:45.15 | JeffM | Would |
22:45.16 | JeffM | Work |
22:45.18 | blast007 | as for the cloak, the one available would be bzflag/player/____ |
22:45.30 | Juesto | oh |
22:45.45 | blast007 | I dunno if Tim had some vetting process for that |
22:45.48 | JeffM | I edited the sln files by hand |
22:46.05 | JeffM | You have to send him a dollar |
22:46.07 | Juesto | i guess that works if Zz can be put since my user is Juest |
22:46.09 | blast007 | heh |
22:46.30 | blast007 | yeah, I think that's how it works - it would have Zz at the end |
22:46.44 | Juesto | alright |
22:47.37 | Juesto | JeffM: you could've resaved the sln and it would update with your installed version string |
22:48.02 | JeffM | I know and that may be newer than what |
22:48.05 | JeffM | Others have |
22:48.06 | Juesto | and your build number is in help -> about |
22:48.14 | JeffM | I picked a low version on purpose |
22:48.21 | Juesto | depends, people update it |
22:48.44 | JeffM | It does rolling releases, so everyone often has different versions |
22:49.16 | JeffM | It works, thatâs the important part |
22:49.29 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
22:49.36 | JeffM | Not that |
22:49.46 | JeffM | Silly phone keyboard |
22:50.00 | Juesto | figure out what's the oldest build and use that i guess |
22:50.04 | Juesto | well whatever |
22:50.20 | Juesto | you should disable the correction |
22:50.22 | JeffM | Why? There is zero advantage |
22:50.42 | Juesto | using Android? |
22:50.52 | JeffM | Dude that would be a very bad idea ð± |
22:50.57 | JeffM | God no |
22:51.08 | Juesto | you can still get words corrected when needed via the prediction bar |
22:51.09 | JeffM | I like consistency |
22:51.13 | blast007 | the only thing worse than iOS is Android |
22:51.18 | Juesto | what |
22:51.19 | Juesto | how |
22:51.28 | JeffM | The issue is hit enter too often |
22:51.31 | Juesto | and what are you using by the way? |
22:51.35 | JeffM | Before I can review |
22:51.35 | blast007 | Juesto: me? |
22:51.51 | Juesto | whoever |
22:51.52 | JeffM | Heâs a Nokia fan |
22:52.01 | Juesto | Maemo? |
22:52.07 | Juesto | Symbian? |
22:52.16 | JeffM | Brick with an antenna |
22:52.17 | blast007 | https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Nokia-3585i_id548 |
22:54.05 | Juesto | oh wow |
22:54.11 | Juesto | well hbu jeff |
22:54.19 | Juesto | but how are you on irc then |
22:54.39 | blast007 | I use morse code |
22:55.05 | JeffM | This is an iPhone |
22:55.11 | Juesto | Ah |
22:55.18 | JeffM | He never said he used his phone for irc |
22:55.25 | blast007 | :) |
22:55.48 | Juesto | great i got confused ;/ |
22:57.10 | blast007 | waiting for my linux phone to get designed and built |
22:57.21 | Juesto | huh |
22:57.38 | blast007 | it'll come with Gnome |
22:58.26 | Juesto | wew |
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23:02.52 | JeffM | Ahhh, giant iPad, much better |
23:02.56 | Juesto | I'm guessing contributor if i knew to write and patch up bzf |
23:03.18 | Juesto | you could consider me a contributor, but really depends on what I'm doing for it |
23:03.26 | blast007 | I dunno. The only one I added was for allejo. |
23:03.32 | allejo | <3 |
23:03.33 | Juesto | and the former would be developer instead |
23:03.35 | Juesto | lol |
23:03.46 | JeffM | Iâd think youâd need to aaa a bit first |
23:03.55 | Juesto | wat |
23:04.03 | JeffM | Add a bit |
23:04.10 | Juesto | as in? |
23:04.31 | Juesto | is still slightly confused |
23:04.43 | JeffM | Contribute to the project |
23:04.56 | Juesto | i guess |
23:05.12 | Juesto | would testing and reporting count? |
23:05.33 | blast007 | no idea |
23:06.27 | Juesto | available cloak for me != list of existing cloaks |
23:07.53 | Juesto | wanted to know the latter tbh |
23:08.57 | Juesto | aand 15.7.1 just added c++17 standard! |
23:11.00 | JeffM | The cloak represents your role, at present I donât see you was anything more than a player |
23:11.38 | Juesto | right |
23:11.51 | Juesto | "technical player" |
23:11.56 | Juesto | not gameplay wise |
23:12.01 | Juesto | i suck lol |
23:12.26 | JeffM | Role != skill |
23:14.59 | Juesto | I'm looking forward to improve |
23:16.22 | Juesto | do you guys play sometimes? |
23:16.31 | Juesto | but rarely i guess? |
23:18.47 | blast007 | I play about once a month |
23:20.41 | Juesto | why some binds are not in input settings |
23:21.55 | JeffM | They are secret |
23:22.09 | blast007 | because they are hardcoded |
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