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| 16:29.20 | macsforme | I'd be interested in helping out with the new authentication system also... is there a formal specification or any code written yet? |
| 16:30.08 | macsforme | I'm especially interested in having it support in-game registration and have IPv6 support |
| 16:37.49 | blast007 | currently just messing around with some mockups at this point |
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| 18:54.54 | JeffM | optimialy you'd get it working with unit test apps outside of the game |
| 18:55.08 | JeffM | then those unit test app become the example implementation for the game |
| 18:55.17 | JeffM | helps debuggin a lot too |
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| 22:54.48 | alfa1 | should not bz_getPlayerBySlotOrCallsign be named bz_getPlayerByCallsign? |
| 22:56.33 | alfa1 | also index and slot (or slot index) are the same thing right? |
| 22:57.30 | allejo | yes and no. they are the same thing but in this case, slot refers to the player ID prepended by a '#' |
| 22:57.45 | allejo | so it's "#10" not the number 10 |
| 22:58.57 | alfa1 | oh then they are treatted differently for some objective |
| 23:00.13 | alfa1 | but refer to the same thing: the order the players joined the server in some way |
| 23:00.48 | allejo | bz_getPlayerBySlotOrCallsign is designed to be used in slash commands |
| 23:01.00 | allejo | for example /target <slot # or callsign> |
| 23:01.28 | allejo | instead of having to chedk for a "#" and then cast the string into an int and then use bz_getPlayerByIndex(), that fxn does it for you |
| 23:01.36 | allejo | it also handles checked callsigns |
| 23:03.47 | alfa1 | even if the function only has a string argument named "name"? (and used as name also internally by getPlayerIDByName(name)?) |
| 23:05.17 | allejo | yes |
| 23:06.14 | alfa1 | ok |
| 23:07.45 | alfa1 | if I need a slash command to put into a list some players' IDs, is it okay if I use only integers? (like /function 1, /function 2) |
| 23:08.04 | blast007 | which ID are you talking about? |
| 23:08.08 | alfa1 | (w/o #) |
| 23:08.15 | blast007 | their slot, or their global bzid? |
| 23:08.21 | alfa1 | slots |
| 23:08.29 | blast007 | then sure, do whatever you want |
| 23:09.20 | allejo | alfa1: if you use bz_getPlayerBySlotOrCallsign(), then no. you need to have a # otherwise it'll be created as a callsign |
| 23:09.25 | blast007 | (bzids are strings, which is why I was wondering) |
| 23:09.38 | allejo | if you want to cast the "1" which is a string into an int, yourself then sure just use bz_getPlayerByIndex() |
| 23:10.04 | allejo | s/created/treated/ |
| 23:11.41 | alfa1 | the function of the '#' is a way to ensure the user is refering to a slot and not to other thing? |
| 23:12.12 | alfa1 | (like a gramatic rule) |
| 23:12.18 | alfa1 | grammatic* |
| 23:12.41 | blast007 | because a callsign can (probably?) not start with a # |
| 23:12.42 | alfa1 | to make my function more correct? |
| 23:12.58 | alfa1 | ah |
| 23:13.20 | alfa1 | ok, somewhat clear :) |
| 23:17.00 | allejo | what blast said. also, callsigns can be made up entirely of numbers so you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a slot ID or a callsign without the # |
| 23:17.14 | alfa1 | ok |
| 23:17.49 | alfa1 | ah then there are functions to find by bzid I guess too |
| 23:18.39 | alfa1 | bz_getPlayerByBZID |
| 23:18.52 | allejo | I don't think in the current API |
| 23:19.03 | allejo | you'd have to loop through the playerl ist |
| 23:19.18 | alfa1 | right |
| 23:19.34 | alfa1 | ok, I don't want BZIDs |
| 23:20.21 | alfa1 | ah I was [misrefering] to IDs when I wanted indexes, sorry |
| 23:20.56 | alfa1 | also I get a bit confused with vector indexes |
| 23:21.11 | alfa1 | (if they are loaded into a vector) |
| 23:21.22 | alfa1 | then indexes = slots |
| 23:21.29 | alfa1 | in scense |
| 23:22.24 | allejo | i'd use a regular array instead of a vector |
| 23:22.46 | blast007 | depends what you're doing, really |
| 23:22.47 | alfa1 | I meant array yes (vector in Spanish) |
| 23:22.56 | alfa1 | 1 dimension array |
| 23:23.42 | alfa1 | just I want a list if human players to then later kill all others, which are bots (since I can't make easily a list of bots) |
| 23:23.50 | alfa1 | of* |
| 23:24.06 | alfa1 | (I will use a dynamic list as structure) |
| 23:24.15 | alfa1 | (or dynamic vector not sure still) |
| 23:24.21 | alfa1 | arrat* |
| 23:24.24 | alfa1 | array* |
| 23:24.58 | alfa1 | /hum 1, /hum 2 |
| 23:25.32 | blast007 | why can't you easily make a list of bots? |
| 23:26.04 | blast007 | and by "kill" do you mean "kick"? |
| 23:26.34 | alfa1 | because as I said yesterday I don't have the event handling autopilot being enabled |
| 23:26.55 | blast007 | so add it |
| 23:27.19 | alfa1 | not kicking, I need to kill bots on start and on every capture, since they get stuck near base and don't move easily |
| 23:28.18 | alfa1 | I am the player, you the developers :) (joke) |
| 23:28.32 | alfa1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.51 | blast007 | you could add it to your bzfs build |
| 23:29.59 | alfa1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.24 | blast007 | it does look to be a bit less trivial of a change than I imagined, though |
| 23:31.14 | alfa1 | if I make a different bzfs then I need a new 'inside number' and then I can't run it publically or publically/privately |
| 23:31.34 | blast007 | no.. |
| 23:31.58 | alfa1 | I am answering you, not asking |
| 23:32.18 | blast007 | I'm saying you're wrong |
| 23:32.36 | alfa1 | it would be a cheat server |
| 23:32.41 | blast007 | adding that feature to the API does not require any breaking changes |
| 23:32.43 | blast007 | nope |
| 23:33.36 | alfa1 | oh |
| 23:33.55 | alfa1 | the same 'internal version number' then? |
| 23:34.21 | alfa1 | (220 or something) |
| 23:34.47 | alfa1 | wel, if I am allowed and not any negative consecuence, I surely will |
| 23:35.28 | alfa1 | nice |
| 23:35.40 | alfa1 | you all are witnesses :) |
| 23:35.44 | alfa1 | (joke) |
| 23:35.49 | allejo | blast007, less trivial how? there's a MsgAutoPilot |
| 23:37.03 | alfa1 | I guess I could try getting it from 2.99x, right? |
| 23:37.15 | alfa1 | or not the best approach? |
| 23:37.59 | alfa1 | which is on SF if I am not wrong |
| 23:41.09 | allejo | there shouldn't be a need to backport it from 2.99. i would think it's pretty simple |
| 23:42.16 | alfa1 | ok |
| 23:45.55 | alfa1 | oh seems a nice (tho possibly abandoned) project, inspired on BZFlag; maybe JeffM likes this: https://sourceforge.net/projects/subspacebattle/?source=directory |
| 23:48.47 | blast007 | allejo: well, the 2.99.x way has two events, some functions, and then there's some refactored code, etc |
| 23:50.51 | alfa1 | I would need to see it too to learn |
| 23:50.53 | allejo | ah |
| 23:51.44 | alfa1 | ther are three beanches: https://sourceforge.net/p/bzflag/code/HEAD/tree/branches/experimental/ |
| 23:52.16 | blast007 | on 2.99, it seems it was changed into the client requesting autopilot, and the server then decided if it would allow it |
| 23:52.46 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/commit/ad6b495c6807e4ced0163c4a6d3eb495ad618d0e |
| 23:52.55 | allejo | ah server side smarts :') |
| 23:55.02 | Zehra | i did see some interesting projects from the past |
| 23:55.03 | alfa1 | :S :P |
| 23:55.20 | Zehra | wonders if any of them will exist in the future |
| 23:55.29 | alfa1 | this will be "learning the API in 1 day" :P |
| 23:55.30 | blast007 | Zehra: like what? |
| 23:55.48 | Zehra | bzwgen |
| 23:55.59 | blast007 | that still exists |
| 23:56.26 | Zehra | it's not being run anywhere :p |
| 23:56.51 | blast007 | I was going to, but I couldn't confirm the textures that were put in there were actually licensed for use |
| 23:56.57 | blast007 | couldn't find them on teh internets |
| 23:57.48 | Zehra | could different textures be used to verify everything ? |
| 23:58.06 | blast007 | sure, but I'd have to find textures that worked for it |
| 23:58.16 | alfa1 | blast007: that link at the start https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bzflag/code/trunk/bzflag@19335 is broken, is that bad? |
| 23:58.28 | blast007 | alfa1: no |
| 23:58.44 | blast007 | mainly just useful to know it was SVN revision 19335 |
| 23:59.17 | Zehra | is there any specifics for textures needed ? |
| 23:59.29 | Zehra | such as special format or something ? |
| 23:59.52 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-tools/tree/bzwgen/media |