IRC log for #bzflag on 20170310

01:07.05blast007so had we picked out a name for 2.4.10?
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01:10.05BZnotify[13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vyV6o
01:10.05BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 14844597d 15Scott Wichser: Update the ChangeLog.
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01:20.31*** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://ohloh.net/p/bzflag || https://wiki.bzflag.org/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.4.8 released! https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=19294
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02:06.24BZnotify[13bzflag] 15allejo opened pull request #73: Bump banner for 2.4.10 release (062.4...062.4.10-banner) 02https://git.io/vyV1u
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02:19.27JeffMAhhh the joy of reinstalling all yer stuff on a new machine
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02:56.58the_mapJeffM: install scripts can be really useful, if you do that a lot
02:57.06JeffMI don't
02:57.15JeffMhaven't upgraded this machine in 6 years
02:57.21the_mapblast007: if you don't choose "Immortal Wombat", how about "eight"? ;)
02:57.29JeffMfinaly time to retire the i5 2500
02:58.24JeffMnew system reports ALL THE CORES!
03:00.29the_maplol
03:02.09JeffMI do use ninite to get the basics in place
03:04.19JeffMAnd steam handles the games
03:05.16JeffMLand I think I'm only going to do vc15 and 17 on this machine
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03:17.10the_mapvc15 and 17?
03:21.49JeffMYup
03:23.39JeffMDevelopment environments
03:29.48allejooh yah, 17's out now isn't it
03:39.40the_mapwhat is it?
03:41.45the_mapok, found it
03:41.46JeffMA development environment
03:42.04the_mapgoogle was telling me that it was boat paint
03:42.20allejothink of it as Microsoft's Xcode
03:42.29the_mapO.O
03:42.34allejowaits for someone to be triggered
03:42.38the_mapnope nope nope
03:43.18blast007Xcode wishes it was anywhere near as good as Visual Studio :P
03:43.34JeffMxcode is apple's visual studio ;)
03:43.44the_mapI'm just sitting here in horror at this
03:43.54allejoand there we go ;)
03:44.38JeffMAnd yeah, Xcode is not as strong of an ide imho
03:45.42allejonah, I agree with that. visual sudio is one of the very few products that Microsoft makes that I actually really like
03:46.36JeffMApple restarts too many times
03:46.53the_maphahaha
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12:03.09BZnotify[13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vyw8t
12:03.09BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 14325e5e7 15Scott Wichser: Don't append the build type and revision when the type is devel. Prevent the installer from running XP (or earlier). Trim a trailing back slash from a comment that was causing the next line to be ignored.
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13:55.26spldartNo more XP support?
14:34.49blast007nope
14:35.27blast007and that should have said "running on XP"
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16:19.06JeffMthat's like just now desupporting OSX 10.1 on the PPC :)
16:19.34JeffMwhat is the oldest OSX supported now?
16:21.10JeffM10.7 it seems
16:21.23JeffMtha'td be like only supporting windows 7+
16:21.32JeffMprobalby a reasonable cut off
16:25.57blast007JeffM: not exactly.  Apple only supports 10.10+
16:26.45blast00710.7 support ended Oct 2014, 10.8 ended Sept 2015, and 10.9 ended Sept 2016
16:29.24JeffMregular or extended support?
16:30.07JeffMXP's mainstream support was ended in 2009 ;)
16:31.26blast007they don't have "extended"
16:31.37blast007unless you count "iTunes support" as extended :P
16:32.04blast007in which case, only 10.9 still has iTunes support
16:32.10JeffMheh
16:32.25JeffMyeah they don't really have a large scale enterprise installed base so they can just cut support
16:32.37JeffMand there users are used to just buying a new computer
16:32.59blast007after 10.6, isn't their OS upgrades free as well?
16:33.10JeffMsomewhere around there
16:33.11blast007(assuming the hardware supports it)
16:34.27JeffMyeah based on the cutoff they chose. oh no USB3... no OS, we didn't fell like writing a driver...
16:34.53JeffMshould create a crossfire profile for bzflag
16:35.28blast007as in, AMD's SLI?
16:35.35JeffMyeah
16:35.42JeffMnew machine has dual RX480s
16:35.59blast007first thing that popped into my head was the "crossssFIIIRReeeee!" commercials
16:36.13JeffMfor that boardgame?
16:36.15blast007yeah
16:36.18JeffMheh
16:36.24JeffMdidn't it involve ballbearings?
16:36.32blast007or tops or something
16:36.35blast007I can't remember
16:36.43JeffMsomething silly that wold be lost
16:36.51blast007I just remember the "crosssssFIIIrrreeee!" part :P
16:37.09JeffMBZFlag may work with the AFR mode, if it was forced to clear the backbuffer
16:37.36JeffMbut it won't use all the threads :(
16:42.24blast007missing out on all those thousands of FPS
16:44.06blast007beyond 150 our physics get real jacked up
16:48.15JeffMbut I can send physics to all  dem cores
16:48.27JeffMI have some stuff I've writen that will use all the cores
16:49.14JeffMwhen you can't think of a more elegant solution, brute force it and add threads :)
16:50.03JeffMtho my bzfs implementation proalby won't do super good, it uses a ton of threads but most of them are idle.
17:17.29spldartBusy so delayed response. Wow! Started playing BZ when XP was brand new. Later registered and wegstar brought me here. I guess I'm seeing a kind of an end of an era that I kinda saw start. Wowzers
17:26.30spldartlmao en us redneck .po XD surfing the code a bit.
17:58.47blast007When I started playing, it might have still supported Windows 95/98.  Can't remember.
18:00.48spldartI can only say when I started playing the binary you could download at bz.com could run on 98. IIRC However it has been so long I'm not sure. Moved back to Houston in 2k running win 98 se and my brother introduced me to bz shortly thereafter. Then up'd to XP Pro.
18:01.30spldartGod! It's been so long I'm not sure :/
18:17.38spldartOMG a few rounds of rabbit chase. so happy!
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23:42.41JeffMblast007: just FYI, current bzflag code builds fine in VS 17
23:42.50JeffMeven with current dependencies

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