| 01:00.23 | macsforme | thanks |
| 01:00.51 | macsforme | blast007: yes, it should work all the way down to 10.7 (in theory) |
| 01:01.29 | blast007 | I mean the gatekeeper thing. does the build itself work on 10.6 yet? |
| 01:03.38 | macsforme | I think gatekeeper started with 10.7... we won't run on 10.6 because of the c++11 stuff we use |
| 01:13.22 | blast007 | how long has that been the case? |
| 01:15.29 | blast007 | hmm, since at least 2.4.4 |
| 02:27.33 | macsforme | sounds right |
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| 15:24.14 | blast007 | what architecture? |
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| 15:27.40 | blast007 | k |
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| 16:30.48 | blast007 | _a_lex: what architecture are you referring to? |
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| 17:34.11 | blast007 | I don't know what you mean |
| 17:35.01 | blast007 | perhaps modulation isn't the word you're looking for - thinking more about the modularity of the software? |
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| 17:36.50 | blast007 | if so, then if we're talking about the game client, it's not very modular. The most modular part is probably the platform code. As for stuff like graphics, network, and simulation, those are mixed together. |
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| 17:59.17 | _a_lex | yes, I mean modularity of the software. |
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| 18:05.16 | _a_lex | I'm .net programer. And have never developed software in a team. How do you keep track, I assumed there is a clear modularity? |
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| 18:11.14 | blast007 | there isn't |
| 18:12.16 | blast007 | there has never been much of a plan, so a lot of the code is a mess |
| 18:12.56 | blast007 | and since the game has code dating back to 1993, there was also a lot of custom code because libraries didn't exist or weren't know about |
| 18:13.22 | blast007 | for instance, we do our own positional audio, with doppler effects |
| 18:13.37 | blast007 | nowadays people would just use something like OpenAL Soft |
| 18:19.16 | _a_lex | Ok, how should I start, to get an overview? |
| 18:19.47 | JeffM | how familiar are you with C++? |
| 18:19.56 | JeffM | bzflag was not made with modern development ideas :) |
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| 18:27.27 | blast007 | there's other projects that would be much more productive to get involved in |
| 18:28.38 | JeffM | seeing half a conversation is odd :) |
| 18:30.47 | _a_lex | So let me know. @JeffM I'm doing by the way. |
| 18:42.24 | _a_lex | I wish nice evening. Up to next time :-). |
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| 18:43.51 | JeffM | Whut? |
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| 20:15.58 | JeffM | so can he not be seen if he's not voiced? |
| 20:33.30 | allejo | i believe unregistered messages only go to ops |
| 20:34.17 | JeffM | yeah blast told me what's up |
| 20:35.28 | JeffM | he's cool like that |
| 20:38.39 | allejo | hands blast his sunglasses |
| 20:40.43 | JeffM | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 20:41.24 | JeffM | I'm sure bzflag would be a shock to a modern .net developer |
| 20:41.30 | JeffM | "Where are all the DLLs?" |
| 20:43.47 | blast007 | "What do you mean 'link to'? The DLLs are already in it!" |
| 20:43.58 | JeffM | .net doesn't link |
| 20:44.05 | JeffM | not a compile time |
| 20:44.24 | JeffM | it's all references and metadata |
| 20:44.30 | JeffM | very different |
| 20:45.53 | JeffM | it's also be good to ask what .net language they mostly use. |
| 20:46.07 | JeffM | you can do .net in C++, with C++/CLI it's just FUGLLLLY |
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