IRC log for #bzflag on 20160604

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04:40.49the_mapmacsforme: I sort of expected that all console output would be echoed, including the timestamps
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05:08.30BZnotify[13bzflag] 15allejo pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vov5h
05:08.30BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 14b1dadf6 15allejo: Revert "Set the game paused time in pauseCountdown()"...
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05:13.14allejowe'll find out soon enough as to why I made that commit if things break :)
05:14.31the_mapor, break differently :P
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15:27.46BZnotify[13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 3 new commits to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vofOR
15:27.46BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 146aa0799 15Scott Wichser: Initialize some more variables in constructors.
15:27.46BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 14e70f1ff 15Scott Wichser: Unused variable.
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15:48.06blast007is there any reason for the wwzone plugin to manually set the world weapon shot ID?
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15:56.37BZnotify[13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 2 new commits to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vof3Q
15:56.37BZnotify13bzflag/062.4 14e84ffaf 15Scott Wichser: customflagsample plugin: Move the Init method to the top and update the documentation.
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15:58.56blast007I've got pending changes for two plugins.  One is for the wwzone plugin that makes it ignore the map defined shotID and always use 0.  The other is for the RogueGenocide plugin that removes the option to let a rogue shoot themself with geno to get points.   Any objections?
16:02.27BulletCatcherMaybe make the RogueGenocide change optional with the new behavior the default?
16:03.04BulletCatcherI don't know enough to say one way or the other about the wwzones change.
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16:11.41blast007why would we want a plugin that lets you kill yourself to get point?
16:11.45blast007points*
16:35.10kierraoh....then my sks would be worth something....been saying for years that I should get points for that ;)
16:41.30the_mapyeah, we need that on urban jungle
16:41.37the_mapmaybe then I could have a positive score
17:29.49BulletCatcherI see that the "nosuicide" option already exists.
17:30.02BulletCatcherI don't object to adding a "suicide" option and making "nosuicide" the default for RogueGenocide.
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17:45.33blast007why do we want that?
17:49.08blast007just seems like a stupid option to me
18:11.27BulletCatcherAny server operator who is using RogueGenocide and wants to prevent self-kill score padding should already be using the "nosuicide" option, which has existed for 10 years.
18:11.32BulletCatcherThe current US presidential campaign indicates that stupid is *very* popular.
18:11.33BulletCatcherWhy do you assume that no one would deliberately choose the "suicide" behavior?
18:21.41kierraamen to that, BC -->The current US presidential campaign indicates that stupid is *very* popular.
18:21.54BulletCatcher:-)
18:22.04kierrai don't choose suicide....it just happens :)
18:22.33BulletCatcherYou just need to play more Pillbox, where the lack of rico means you can't self-kill.
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18:45.08macsformeyet another BulletCatcher quotable :)
18:46.30macsformeI think we should leave the rogue genocide suicide as an option just in case someone wants it
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