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| 12:35.29 | blast007 | hmm, the bzflag-data debian package included the various Makefile* files... |
| 12:35.32 | blast007 | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/bzflag-data/filelist |
| 12:36.28 | blast007 | (at least from the data/fonts/ and data/l10n/ directories, not from data/ ) |
| 12:37.11 | blast007 | looks to be the only thing making the bzflag-data package not build reproducibly |
| 12:37.41 | beatdown | Glad to see people still play bzflag, my first experience was on an IRIX machine :D |
| 12:37.42 | blast007 | I've got some local changes that implement SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH for building the version string and the man pages date |
| 12:40.32 | blast007 | beatdown: hehe, yep, we're still alive, though not as active as it was back in the early to mid 2000's |
| 12:41.02 | blast007 | though there are some rough plans in place to try to correct that downward trend |
| 13:01.46 | blast007 | huh... and bzfs is run by default on systems that install bzflag-server (which gets installed when they install the 'bzflag' metapackage)... that seems.. undesirable |
| 13:02.10 | blast007 | http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/b/bzflag/bzflag_2.4.2+ds1-7_changelog |
| 13:03.30 | blast007 | plus I'm sure that *completely* breaks the 'start server' menu in-game :) |
| 13:03.56 | blast007 | should we just remove the start server menu for 2.4.6? |
| 13:06.50 | beatdown | Yes |
| 13:07.33 | beatdown | Anyone playing bzflag, or wants to run their own server can figure out how to run one by reading docs |
| 13:09.19 | blast007 | that's my opinion as well |
| 13:14.06 | beatdown | Since bzflag is probably played by a lot of old schoolers, we're accustomed to RTFMing |
| 13:14.26 | blast007 | this is the reproducible builds log I'm looking at: https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/bzflag.html |
| 13:14.46 | blast007 | beatdown: but our documentation does need improvement |
| 13:15.02 | blast007 | I intend to have proper documentation placed directly onto the main site "soon" |
| 13:15.45 | blast007 | and 2.6 will try to make it easier for new players to get started |
| 13:15.58 | blast007 | (tutorials, better GUI, etc) |
| 13:16.34 | blast007 | need to get 2.4.6 done and out, then maybe a 2.4.8, and then start pushing on 2.6 |
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