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| 05:41.42 | macsforme | darn, blast007... I should have rebased my embedded port after your buffer oveflow fix in 3983258 and saved myself a lot of trouble |
| 05:41.51 | macsforme | I know 300ms of jitter wasn't right... |
| 05:43.15 | macsforme | and that rico/spawn/landing effects staying in place for ~20 seconds wasn't right... |
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| 17:57.30 | exuro | Hello, just a short question: Can anyone share the actual state of the gu-league/ ducati league merger and what the hold up is? Thank you. |
| 18:01.51 | blast007 | the new league software is still being finalized |
| 18:12.10 | blast007 | to be more exact, it needs some further coding, testing, and data migration |
| 18:12.32 | kaadmy | i have an image on images.bzflag.org that needs moderator approval, could someone check it? |
| 18:12.48 | blast007 | kaadmy: there's a bit of a backlog since I've been bad |
| 18:13.32 | kaadmy | bad? |
| 18:13.51 | blast007 | bad as in not taking care of image approvals for a while :P |
| 18:14.03 | kaadmy | ah |
| 18:14.19 | kaadmy | i'll probably be unloading a couple images for my gamemode |
| 18:14.29 | kaadmy | uploading* |
| 18:17.12 | exuro | Is there any estimation when this will be? A lot of people wonder if this is still ongoing, because the last "official" statement was from jun 15th 2015 https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=19017#p170747 |
| 18:17.44 | blast007 | why would they wonder if it's still happening? they can look at the commit log for the site. |
| 18:18.30 | blast007 | https://github.com/allejo/bzion/commits/master |
| 18:20.53 | exuro | Having some code on git is not the same as a statement from the gu/ ducati adminship how the project is going, and whether it is still happening. |
| 18:21.35 | blast007 | well, is there any statement saying it's *not* happening? |
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| 18:24.43 | blast007 | exuro: in any case, they are still working on it. Just because they aren't personally coming to you or posting news doesn't mean it isn't happening. It's been discussed in IRC on ##guleague, even recently. |
| 18:24.57 | exuro | Considering that at least one gu admin told that it will definitly happen till end of septembre 2015, I think the question is justified. |
| 18:25.33 | exuro | Can you link to where one can find the info on #guleague? |
| 18:25.59 | blast007 | it's ##guleague, not #guleague |
| 18:26.37 | kierra | I merely quoted allejo to you, exuro....which is why i kept directing you to allejo , allezakos & consti over and over again |
| 18:27.30 | kierra | alezakos* |
| 18:27.43 | blast007 | exuro: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23%23guleague/ and/or join ##guleague |
| 18:29.17 | exuro | I know, I hoped for a more direct link to the info about th progress so not everyone who reads here has to do the same tedious task to go through all the pages. |
| 18:30.15 | blast007 | when I said recent, I meant recent |
| 18:30.51 | blast007 | the 15th has some info about data they're working on |
| 18:31.29 | blast007 | or download the last few months of logs from there and run a grep |
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| 18:34.22 | exuro | Knowing which problems are worked on still does not tell anyone how far this project is, without having a list how many problems are still to be solved. |
| 18:35.44 | blast007 | seriously, do we have to do everything for you? https://github.com/allejo/bzion/issues https://github.com/allejo/bzion/milestones |
| 18:36.49 | blast007 | plus I think they have a test site online with data, so you can help test it and report new issues |
| 18:40.40 | blast007 | exuro: have you asked alezakos, allejo, and/or Constitution about how the work is going? |
| 18:49.12 | exuro | I'd like to clarify again that I don't ask for when the code is finally done - I know allejo, alezakos,... are working very hard on it. But the code is only part of it. |
| 18:49.22 | exuro | There are many more questions already asked and problems to be solved (to name two: the different ELOs between the former leagues, how to adjust them, the player handling with membership in 2 different teams) |
| 18:49.30 | exuro | And a lot of players just want to know, when we can expect the merged/ new league to start. |
| 18:49.53 | blast007 | and you think the people working on the code aren't having to handle stuff like that? |
| 18:49.59 | exuro | Because many players don't (regularly) read the IRC channels, I would like to ask the gu/ ducati adminship, especially those leading this merger, to post an update on the progress. |
| 18:52.14 | blast007 | logically speaking, wouldn't the new merged league have to have working software? so it couldn't begin until the software is done. |
| 18:52.28 | blast007 | so speak to the ones working on the software |
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| 18:58.36 | exuro | I presume all of them read this channel, so they are very welcome to give some additional infos. |
| 18:59.04 | blast007 | no no no, YOU are demanding information, so how about you directly ask them |
| 18:59.24 | blast007 | is there some reason you can't send them a PM on the forum? |
| 19:01.31 | exuro | I was told by Kierra not to post this as a question via the bzbb forum, but to ask my question here in the channel. I assume the reason was so everyone interested can read it also. |
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| 19:03.57 | blast007 | exuro: okay, then why not ask on the BZFlag League Consolidation forum? |
| 19:04.20 | blast007 | but really, I don't see why you can't ask in PM initially |
| 19:04.41 | blast007 | do you think that if you get an answer you'll be prohibited from talking about it? |
| 19:06.51 | blast007 | exuro: so let me rephrase: Send alezakos, allejo, and Constitution a forum PM asking about the progress of the site and if anything can be done to help test the system. |
| 19:08.44 | alezakos | actually, "the code" is the only part missing for now :) |
| 19:08.44 | alezakos | Constitution is responsible for merging the old league data to the new website, so he'd be more qualified to answer the questions you asked about ELOs and team membership. |
| 19:08.44 | alezakos | You can see how each team's ELO has been recalculated based on their match history at http://demo.leaguesunited.org/teams |
| 19:09.39 | exuro | Thanks for the info alezakos. |
| 19:10.03 | kierra | exuro: you were directed here so that you could speak with allejo, alez and consti |
| 19:12.18 | allejo | As for the release date being delayed, I lost my calendar last year so that's why I can't tell dates anymore |
| 19:13.24 | blast007 | well, also your power went out that one time in October, so now your clock just flashes 12:00 |
| 19:16.06 | allejo | The flashing is so soothing, it helps me sleep |
| 19:20.21 | kaadmy | heh |
| 19:23.56 | blast007 | allejo: maybe you left your calendar in the hypersonic lion tamer |
| 19:26.59 | kaadmy | "and bzflag dev is slow because the they lost their calendars" ;) |
| 19:42.16 | allejo | or maybe my hype Ebonics rhyme chamber |
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