| 00:24.29 | Flash | has anyone else noticed an OS X problem where the video goes haywire? |
| 00:32.53 | blast007 | Flash: which version of the game? |
| 00:33.01 | Flash | 2.4 |
| 00:33.05 | blast007 | specifically |
| 00:33.11 | Flash | all of them |
| 00:33.18 | blast007 | specifically ........ |
| 00:33.28 | blast007 | is it happening on 2.4.4RC2? |
| 00:33.41 | Flash | yes |
| 00:33.45 | Flash | 2.4.2 |
| 00:33.49 | Flash | 2.4.4RC2 |
| 00:33.53 | Flash | 2.4.4RC2-2 |
| 00:34.16 | blast007 | define haywire |
| 00:34.32 | blast007 | and does it show up in screenshots? |
| 00:34.39 | Flash | like an old tv where the horizontal hold is broken |
| 00:34.51 | Flash | hang on, I just downloaded OBS |
| 00:43.12 | Flash | http://www.melton.space/images/2015-12-22_17-36-31.mp4 |
| 00:44.06 | Flash | the same issue exists in stock 2.4.2 |
| 00:44.20 | Flash | it's some interaction with the current OS state |
| 00:44.26 | Flash | a reboot fixes it |
| 00:45.11 | the_map | I have similar issues, which a reboot fixes |
| 00:45.16 | the_map | I'm on Ubuntu |
| 00:45.34 | the_map | it usually starts right after I take updates for the kernel |
| 00:46.38 | blast007 | the_map: what kind of graphics adapter do you have? |
| 00:47.36 | the_map | ? |
| 00:47.44 | the_map | uhhh, VGA? |
| 00:48.20 | the_map | but I'm guessing that's not what you meant |
| 00:48.36 | blast007 | what video card you have |
| 00:49.01 | Flash | AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB |
| 00:49.23 | the_map | ASUS Radeon R9 270 |
| 00:50.01 | the_map | *AMD, but it has an ASUS logo on it |
| 00:50.05 | blast007 | I think I hate AMD... |
| 00:50.37 | blast007 | I'm dealing with an issue with AMD on Windows too... can't even run the game.. process starts, but never draws anything |
| 00:51.18 | blast007 | odd thing is that 2.4.2 *does* work, but only if I use our actual 2.4.2 release, not if I build a new 2.4.2 |
| 00:51.46 | Flash | my particular issue is across all versions |
| 00:52.28 | blast007 | that could just be Apple releasing crap drivers again |
| 00:52.37 | Flash | it could |
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| 03:19.03 | Constitution | Flash: I have an AMD Radeon HD 6770M on my macbook pro, and I don't have that issue |
| 03:19.08 | Constitution | what OS version are you using? |
| 03:19.34 | Flash | 10.10.5, but it's been happening for a while |
| 03:19.54 | Flash | possibly from 10.10 on? |
| 03:20.42 | Constitution | I have the same OS |
| 03:21.24 | Flash | I play a flash-based game in Safari ... maybe a flash issue? |
| 03:22.11 | Flash | (no pun intended) |
| 03:23.00 | the_map | Constitution: do you usually restart soon after updates to the kernel? (if it's relevant; idk how the mac update process works) |
| 03:26.13 | Constitution | you have to restart a mac right after updating system software, generally |
| 03:26.41 | Flash | never had a system update that didn't require one |
| 03:26.51 | Flash | the install actually takes place upon reboot |
| 03:27.22 | the_map | oh, ok |
| 03:27.42 | the_map | on ubuntu it won't force the reboot; it will just nag you |
| 04:25.54 | Flash | oh we get that too. but the install doesn't happen until you do reboot |
| 04:54.57 | the_map | ah |
| 04:55.17 | the_map | probably the same on ubuntu |
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| 11:02.04 | blast007 | the_map: no, not the same on Ubuntu |
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| 17:47.17 | the_map | oh |
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| 19:15.58 | alpha1-2 | blast007: observers are not ordered decreasingly in the results neither. Can it be? Why? |
| 19:40.55 | blast007 | they don't count |
| 19:52.57 | alpha1-2 | ah, I see, as they don't count for the default search, they are not ordered for filtered ones neither |
| 19:54.59 | blast007 | yep |
| 19:56.39 | alpha1-2 | is there an easy way, maybe, to activate the ordered results back but only for filtered ones? |
| 19:57.44 | alpha1-2 | if I search for observers, I would like to have them ordered |
| 19:57.45 | blast007 | I'd rather put my time into actually making the game *run* on some systems we're having issues with |
| 19:58.37 | alpha1-2 | ah, okay, but is my idea good enough? |
| 19:58.51 | blast007 | As of right now, Windows 10 (and myabe 7/8/8.1) with modern AMD graphics hardware can't even run the game. Doesn't even get to the menu. |
| 19:59.07 | blast007 | maybe* |
| 20:00.21 | blast007 | and no, I don't think there's an easy way to do what you want |
| 20:00.37 | alpha1-2 | wow. Maybe because the new code is using dynamic links and then using more moderns libraries like openGL? |
| 20:01.40 | blast007 | alpha1-2: I don't know why. It's hanging up on a specific line of code, never actually running it, just sitting there waiting for it to run. |
| 20:01.57 | blast007 | so probably something fun with threads or events |
| 20:02.52 | blast007 | also have some issue only on Windows 10 where closing the game from the taskbar (instead of within the game using F12 or the quit option) will close the window, but BZFlag will continue to run in the background |
| 20:03.06 | alpha1-2 | ah, debbuging it line per line, right? |
| 20:50.19 | blast007 | that's... generally what debugging comes down to... line by line... |
| 20:51.09 | blast007 | at the very least, some breakpoints around the location of the problem |
| 20:51.25 | alpha1-2 | yes, true |
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