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| 00:45.05 | allejo | lol |
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| 06:31.17 | the_map | why doesn't bzflag allow keystrokes like ctrl-backspace in chat? |
| 06:31.30 | the_map | for those that typo a lot :) |
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| 07:58.17 | allejo | would commit b96fb96 resolve https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/13? |
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| 17:59.11 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15blast007 pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02http://git.io/vBPxS |
| 17:59.11 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14f80b7e5 15Scott Wichser: Fix up some dependencies/references so that everything is built in the right order and so that the installer includes all the server plugins. |
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| 19:49.38 | Constitution | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/30 is an SDL issue... I reported it to them with a patch, and I can just patch the SDL library we ship with 2.4.4 so we don't have to wait on them |
| 19:50.01 | Constitution | is that worth an RC3? or just post the build somewhere for that one user to test? |
| 19:52.46 | the_map | btw all, I got a notice yesterday at ~11 am UTC: [Global Notice] We are again experiencing connectivity problems to some servers due to DDoS attacks. Please bear with us while we ride it out. |
| 19:53.02 | the_map | in case any of you missed that |
| 19:54.36 | blast007 | I'd just recommend doing another build, I can throw it up on the download server, and we can link it on that bug report |
| 20:07.00 | Constitution | http://fairserve.net/~josh/bzflag/BZFlag-2.4.4-RC2-20151128-MacOSX.zip |
| 20:16.39 | blast007 | https://download.bzflag.org/2.4.4/mac/BZFlag-2.4.4-RC2-20151128-MacOSX.zip |
| 20:20.39 | Constitution | thansk |
| 20:31.28 | Constitution | allejo: are you going to close the PZ issue since you pushed a fix to master? |
| 20:46.09 | BulletCatcher | there's a >o< behind you, |-o-| |
| 20:47.10 | |-o-| | XD |
| 20:48.01 | Delusional | oh, so you had to fire using the mouse button, or you didnât see the bug |
| 20:50.45 | Constitution | yes, and without confine mouse to motionbox |
| 21:01.46 | Constitution | blast007: I'm trying to help out with the documentation update a little bit... are we just primarily looking to update outdated or incorrect information? |
| 21:22.54 | Constitution | i.e., avoiding any major refactoring right now |
| 21:26.54 | blast007 | /kick Jar_Jar into a blackhole |
| 21:27.15 | blast007 | Constitution: depends - what would you be looking to do major refactoring on? |
| 21:33.41 | Constitution | hopefully nothing... but there are a lot of files in that list... for example, some READMEs for platforms we don't really support anymore |
| 21:34.26 | Jar_Jar | hey! meesa a master of The Force!' |
| 21:34.37 | Jar_Jar | how wude! |
| 21:38.46 | blast007 | I probably wouldn't bother with the README files for IRIX, MINGW32, or BeOS |
| 21:39.26 | blast007 | the README.XMINGW we could probably kill off, since that's instructions for cross-compiling a Windows .exe from linux... |
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| 21:40.43 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15macsforme pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02http://git.io/vBXbP |
| 21:40.43 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14d1404fc 15Joshua Bodine: Updated AUTHORS file. |
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| 21:41.23 | blast007 | Even the README.MINGW32 could probably go away. There's hardly a reason to not use Visual C++ on Windows anymore. Except for maybe cases where someone can't get the 2010 version anymore, since I don't think our dependencies will build in 2015. |
| 21:43.03 | blast007 | README.SDL could be updated to also have some information about SDL2, mentioning that it's experimental, and with a link to the libsdl bug tracker with your patch. |
| 21:43.23 | blast007 | the IRIX one has a note that is likely doesn't work anymore |
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| 21:44.43 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15macsforme pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02http://git.io/vBXNw |
| 21:44.43 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 1427a9a4d 15Joshua Bodine: Updated PORTING file. |
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| 21:45.33 | blast007 | I imagine the credits in the help menu are quite outdated as well... |
| 21:45.55 | allejo | Constitution, closed the issue |
| 21:46.03 | Constitution | thanks |
| 21:46.34 | Constitution | so the IRIX readme can be left alone? |
| 21:46.41 | blast007 | yes, it's fine as-is |
| 21:55.11 | BulletCatcher | We should stop claiming to support IRIX, but at this point it can wait until after 2.4.4 is released. |
| 21:56.32 | BulletCatcher | Perhaps what we should say in the future is that BZFlag is know to work on Windows, Mac OS X, and POSIX compatible systems. |
| 21:58.19 | blast007 | why wait until after 2.4.4? |
| 21:59.01 | BulletCatcher | Just to avoid non-essential changes between RC2 and release. |
| 22:01.28 | Constitution | accurate platform targeting information might be more on the essential side, but it already says it probably doesn't work, so I guess it doesn't matter |
| 22:02.22 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: is it more than changing README files? |
| 22:02.50 | BulletCatcher | I'd want to pull references to IRIX from configure.ac, too. |
| 22:03.10 | blast007 | k, then yeah, wait on that |
| 22:04.40 | BulletCatcher | To be thorough, we should remove the SGI plaform files, too. |
| 22:05.00 | BulletCatcher | Definitely wait until after 2.4.4 at this point. |
| 22:06.39 | Constitution | there is also package/irix |
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| 22:20.04 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15macsforme pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02http://git.io/vB1vz |
| 22:20.04 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14de34dcd 15Joshua Bodine: Updated README file. |
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| 22:25.10 | blast007 | Constitution: was the crashing on Ubuntu 14.04 consistently reproducable? and what GPU and driver did you have? |
| 22:32.21 | Constitution | yes it was... AMD Radeon HD 6770M with the radeon driver |
| 22:32.57 | Constitution | etigah was reporting it too... not sure about his system specs |
| 22:37.48 | blast007 | k, I'm gonna try to dupe here. I didn't happen on Debian Jessie on a VirtualBox VM (on a host with nVidia). |
| 22:42.03 | alezakos | On what occassion does that crash happen? |
| 22:42.49 | blast007 | iirc, when closing the client, and only on a release build |
| 22:45.27 | the_map | I'm on Ubuntu 15.04; is there a way I can help (like with testing the crash or something)? |
| 22:57.20 | blast007 | the_map: it's gonna be a tricky one to debug since it didn't happen in a debug build, only a release build, meaning that a debugger can't as easily be used |
| 23:41.57 | blast007 | Constitution: it also happens here on 14.04 with an nVidia 7900 GTO using the nouveau driver |
| 23:48.09 | blast007 | Constitution: might be the same thing that happens on Windows in debug builds. There's a section where we delete the 'BzfDisplay* display' instance in bzflag.cxx, and then dying() gets called (iirc) which tries to call a method on display, which fails since display is no longer valid |