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| 03:17.32 | allejo | on an entirely random and cool note. AppCode can easily load bzflag's Xcode project. a much better IDE than Xcode, imo |
| 03:17.39 | allejo | just a random thought |
| 03:17.48 | allejo | like Xcode, AppCode is OS X only |
| 03:17.54 | allejo | goes back to his corner |
| 03:19.13 | JeffM | does it suck less then xcode? |
| 03:21.43 | allejo | "a much better IDE than Xcode, imo" |
| 03:21.44 | allejo | :p |
| 03:23.13 | JeffM | sorry |
| 03:23.43 | JeffM | i am druued up, i had surgery today |
| 03:26.10 | Leppp | hope all is well then JM |
| 03:27.52 | allejo | oh yea, I saw that. how are you doing? |
| 03:29.27 | JeffM | all of my guts are where they are supposed to be now, so it's ok |
| 03:30.06 | JeffM | it's a lot of discomfort but it's managable |
| 03:30.37 | allejo | did you lose any guts or are they all accounted for? |
| 03:30.47 | JeffM | yeah the are all there |
| 03:30.56 | JeffM | just acutaly now inside my abdominal wal |
| 03:31.19 | JeffM | and there is some mesh keeping them there |
| 03:31.35 | allejo | is the mesh permanent? |
| 03:31.48 | JeffM | yeah it's sewn inside |
| 03:31.55 | JeffM | it prevents it from rupturing again |
| 03:32.01 | JeffM | techincaly I'm a cyborg now |
| 03:32.24 | allejo | ohhhh how does it feel? |
| 03:32.36 | JeffM | right now, painful :) |
| 03:32.55 | JeffM | it's hard to get up from laying down with out bending at the middle |
| 03:33.16 | JeffM | but at least I have 5 days of until I have to go back to work |
| 03:33.31 | allejo | well that's always good |
| 03:33.43 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:33.51 | allejo | you didn't have to stay in the hospital? |
| 03:34.04 | allejo | or do hospitals offer free IRC connections now? :p |
| 03:34.14 | delusional | He'll be back. |
| 03:34.36 | JeffM | it was outpatient |
| 03:34.57 | JeffM | about an hour for surgery, and hour for recovery |
| 03:35.55 | JeffM | I got wheeled in, on the way then injectd something, then I got on the table, they put a mask on me, next thing I know i'm waking up in another room |
| 03:36.01 | JeffM | and I had kinda forgot where I was |
| 03:36.33 | allejo | that was effective |
| 03:36.43 | JeffM | then girlfriend drove me home |
| 03:36.44 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:37.10 | allejo | i never actually imagined that you'd pass out almost instantly but yea... would make sense for it to be necessary that way lol |
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| 03:37.36 | JeffM | yeah that was kinda weird |
| 03:38.05 | JeffM | They asked me if I felt anything form the injection, and I didn;t |
| 03:38.11 | JeffM | then they just told me to breathe |
| 03:38.20 | JeffM | don't remember anything after that |
| 03:38.35 | JeffM | and now my belly button is shaved an orange :) |
| 03:38.55 | allejo | you're becoming an oompa loompa now! |
| 03:39.02 | allejo | ohhh that should be your halloween costume |
| 03:39.26 | JeffM | I'm asuming when I can take a shower in 4 days it'll wash off |
| 03:39.34 | allejo | awww :( |
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| 05:09.25 | Flash | ~bzgit |
| 05:09.25 | infobot | methinks bzgit is git clone --branch v2_4_x https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3.git bzflag |
| 05:29.18 | Flash | allejo: I applied for a BZFlag license for AppCode ... I'll give it a try. |
| 05:29.43 | Flash | Frankly, I've never been a huge fan of IDEs because I do all my "real" work in XEmacs |
| 05:30.19 | Flash | but after a little Java work in Eclipse, and some C++ in XCode, I find myself looking for the "show definition" option in XEmacs and I just can't find it |
| 05:30.30 | Flash | It's probably there somewhere; XEmacs is an OS |
| 05:31.17 | Flash | If IDEs just had editors for power users (e.g., XEmacs inside) I wouldn't feel like I had to give up productivity for productivity |
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| 05:41.53 | allejo | "You release updated builds on a regular basis." bz might have a difficult time meeting that lol |
| 05:42.20 | allejo | the only reason I still use emacs is because I can't figure out how to quit it |
| 05:54.28 | khonkhortisan | C-x M-c M-butterfly |
| 05:54.51 | Flash | You clearly know nothing |
| 05:55.20 | allejo | :p |
| 05:55.22 | Flash | It's either M-x butterfly or M-b f |
| 05:55.36 | Flash | depending on your bindings |
| 05:56.09 | allejo | hehe |
| 05:58.11 | Flash | There is a difference between emacs and XEmacs ... XEmacs is better |
| 05:58.26 | khonkhortisan | I can't find the M key. |
| 05:58.42 | khonkhortisan | nevermind |
| 05:58.46 | Flash | so you are pretty much n00b for life |
| 05:59.01 | khonkhortisan | win-x turned into s-x, I found the ESC. |
| 05:59.08 | khonkhortisan | I also use basic vim shortcuts. |
| 05:59.16 | allejo | never knew about xemacs |
| 05:59.32 | khonkhortisan | You can't say the same about xboard. That thing is old! |
| 05:59.54 | allejo | is fine with nano; everything else he just writes locally and uploads |
| 06:00.18 | Flash | allejo: I started on Lucid Emacs (precursor to XEmacs) because it was the "IDE" for Lucid's development environment |
| 06:00.46 | Flash | They did a very good job of the graphical integration |
| 06:01.14 | Flash | I'll bet most emacs users don't know that emacs has a gdb/dbx mode for interactive debugging |
| 06:01.15 | allejo | o.O |
| 06:02.21 | khonkhortisan | woah. It's so græy! |
| 06:02.46 | Flash | hmmm? |
| 06:02.55 | khonkhortisan | xemacs compared to emacs |
| 06:03.06 | Flash | it's customizable (surprise) |
| 06:03.27 | Flash | I have my background set to wheat ... a very nice low-contrast color |
| 06:03.42 | khonkhortisan | When the mouse cursor switches to a lefty pointer in the menu, I feel the need to use my left arm on my second physical mouse. |
| 06:03.48 | Flash | no, that's not right ... high contrast low saturation |
| 06:04.02 | Flash | (rofl) |
| 06:05.41 | khonkhortisan | looks into foot mice |
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