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| 21:04.43 | WarPig | blast007: ping |
| 21:09.01 | WarPig | Quick question for the devs: Who decides at which exact coordinates a tank spawns? Is it the server, or the client? |
| 21:09.13 | JeffM | the server does it now |
| 21:09.16 | JeffM | it used to be the client |
| 21:09.38 | JeffM | it's been the server since 2.0 IIRC |
| 21:10.52 | JeffM | There is an API event that plugins can use to modify spawn locations |
| 21:10.58 | JeffM | that's how AirSpawn works |
| 21:11.38 | WarPig | Thanks for that. I had a player complain to me that he was always spawning right in front of another player, who would immediately kill him. I presume that since the server is controlling the spawn position, that a hacked client could not cause another player to spawn at a predictable location. |
| 21:12.11 | JeffM | there would not a way for one client to set the spawn on another client |
| 21:12.21 | JeffM | but the server doesn't know where all the shots are |
| 21:12.31 | JeffM | so it isn't that great at picking spawns |
| 21:12.51 | JeffM | the old client code knew more about the world and picked what many people felt were "Better" locations |
| 21:12.51 | WarPig | Thanks for the info. |
| 21:12.54 | JeffM | sure |
| 21:13.20 | WarPig | Yeah.... players notice that teh spawns are not as good as they used to be. |
| 21:13.51 | JeffM | it hasn't changed in years and years |
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| 21:16.06 | WarPig | Just perception then. I guess on servers like mofo, where the ground is literally covered with bullets all the time, theres really no good place to spawn. ;) |
| 21:16.24 | JeffM | yeah the game wasn't really designed for that much fire |
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| 21:16.41 | JeffM | spray and pray + single hit death is not a good combo |
| 21:18.05 | JeffM | be nice if we could add collision elements to the map at run time, then you could put up a a reflection shield around tanks as they spawn |
| 21:18.57 | WarPig | That would be good, give players a second to get their bearings. |
| 21:19.18 | JeffM | many things would be possible if shots were on the server |
| 21:19.43 | WarPig | Would probably fix some popular cheats as well. |
| 21:20.05 | JeffM | many of them yes, |
| 21:20.19 | JeffM | that and tracking movements on the server would get rid of all the bad ones |
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| 21:21.24 | WarPig | Yeah. That would require a lot more communication between the clients and the server, no? |
| 21:21.34 | JeffM | nope |
| 21:21.39 | JeffM | less actualy |
| 21:21.57 | JeffM | or the same as now at the most |
| 21:22.31 | WarPig | Yeah, I guess teh clients have to report position, shots, etc all the time anyway. |
| 21:22.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:22.55 | JeffM | now the server can choose to not send distant updates to people |
| 21:22.58 | WarPig | Same info, just switching directions. |
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| 21:23.23 | JeffM | the clients still have to tell the server that they shot or moved |
| 21:23.31 | JeffM | it just changes who is responsible for updating the state |
| 21:23.45 | WarPig | Gotcha. Makes sense. |
| 21:25.00 | WarPig | Well, thanks again for the info.... Time for grillin and chillin. :D |
| 21:25.20 | JeffM | have fun |
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