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| 19:52.55 | allejo | ~Constitution++ |
| 20:36.04 | JeffM | what's the main issue with auto-reporting? |
| 20:36.17 | JeffM | just bugs in the plug-in? because I'd assume it'd be super easy |
| 20:40.24 | blast007 | the GU site has also been down a number of times recently |
| 20:41.43 | JeffM | why? |
| 20:42.02 | blast007 | bacon stuck in the PSU |
| 20:42.07 | JeffM | again, can't be that hard to run a little website :) |
| 20:42.45 | blast007 | iirc, it's behind cloudflare, which I think is a bit overkill.. or a sign the server can't handle a simple dynamic site |
| 20:43.28 | JeffM | my cheapass VPS handles that level of traffic just fine |
| 20:43.39 | blast007 | yeah.. |
| 20:43.45 | JeffM | I'd not want to host a game on it, but for normal stuff it's fine |
| 20:45.28 | blast007 | there's plenty of ways to handle the site being down.. dump the JSON data to the log and allow that to be copy/pasted into the site later, have a local SQLite database that it dumps pending data to (even though I know we got rid of that), etc.. |
| 20:46.02 | JeffM | own two cheapss VPSs that are in sync |
| 20:46.32 | blast007 | the trouble spots would be if it actually receives the data but doesn't return a success back to the plugin |
| 20:46.41 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:46.50 | blast007 | but something like a UUID generated by the plugin could help prevent duplicate entries |
| 20:46.58 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:47.18 | JeffM | I'd stage it and have a backend system be what the plugin connects to then that logs and pushes to the display site |
| 20:47.32 | blast007 | or even at the start of a match having the plugin tell the server "I'm starting a match - give me a number" and then the server just waits for that data to come back |
| 20:47.44 | blast007 | the web server, that is |
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| 20:47.58 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:48.02 | blast007 | a transaction system, of sorts |
| 20:48.11 | JeffM | not of sorts, that's what you are doing :) |
| 20:48.14 | blast007 | :) |
| 20:48.21 | JeffM | then you know how many matches failed to complete |
| 20:48.39 | blast007 | and you also possibly know ahead of time if the match site is down |
| 20:48.44 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:48.49 | JeffM | I'd round robbin them |
| 20:48.56 | JeffM | have multiple match reporters |
| 20:49.06 | JeffM | and you work with the one that you connect to |
| 20:49.12 | blast007 | separate from the website? |
| 20:49.16 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:49.21 | JeffM | 2-3 small match reporters |
| 20:49.22 | blast007 | yeah, that'd be ideal |
| 20:49.29 | JeffM | then it's there job to merge into the central database |
| 20:49.35 | JeffM | also use them as live sync backups |
| 20:49.42 | JeffM | then a read only copy on the website |
| 20:49.55 | blast007 | makes it a slight bit more complicated, of course :) |
| 20:49.57 | JeffM | you've got a lot of unique IDs going on already |
| 20:50.03 | JeffM | yeah but it's not hard to merge |
| 20:50.19 | JeffM | you know you can't have 2 matches reported at the same start time from the same source server |
| 20:50.23 | JeffM | so it's easy to sort them out |
| 20:50.58 | JeffM | getting a UID for the match based on those makes it very easy to resolve |
| 20:51.21 | blast007 | and by "round robin" you're not necessarily referring to DNS, right? just the general idea of multiple systems picked at random? |
| 20:51.28 | JeffM | yah |
| 20:51.55 | blast007 | k. not sure if our code would even pick an IP at random if a DNS server returned multiple IPs. |
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| 20:52.00 | JeffM | and when you generate a match ID those match reporters then try to sync between all 3 |
| 20:52.24 | JeffM | yeah I'd do it in code, match1,match2,match3 etc.. |
| 20:52.27 | blast007 | yep |
| 20:52.40 | JeffM | on startup have the plugin get the list of match servers that are up now from some central |
| 20:52.46 | JeffM | or use the last one if it can't |
| 20:53.25 | JeffM | I started the design for my leauge/auth system I just need a web person to implement it :) |
| 20:53.59 | JeffM | http://www.bzflag.me/login.html :) |
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| 22:21.25 | brad | fyi, the error with autoreport was: "The BZIDs (x,y,z) were not found on the same team. Match invalidated." |
| 22:21.45 | brad | don't think there's been issues with the reports not reaching the site, apart from when it was down last week |
| 22:22.05 | brad | but the match servers dont go through cloudflare |
| 22:22.35 | brad | (which was put in place because of some jerk DDoSing) |
| 22:23.25 | brad | and one more thing, I think allejo has fixed that bug in recent builds |
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| 22:58.23 | blast007 | never said the match servers were behind cloudflare - we were talking about the website |
| 23:09.54 | JeffM | i was just curious why the rollout's taken so long |
| 23:13.41 | blast007 | bugs, architecture changes (went from the web server sending SQL queries over HTTP to the plugin for updating the local cache to sending JSON data), difficulty integrating into the website (as it wasn't really designed with autoreport in mind) |
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| 23:18.37 | JeffM | ahh |
| 23:21.29 | JeffM | so it took them time to design it right |
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