IRC log for #bzflag on 20140206

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06:11.02Constitutionyep, I figured, but I thought I would ask :)
06:11.29Constitutionnobody seems really interested in working on the code we have, anyway? most of the proposals seemed to be new or independent projects
06:12.02JeffMyup same as last year ;)
06:18.08JeffMwaits for someone to sugest that advertising will fix it
06:18.41allejoadvertising the return of the start button fixed windows
06:18.57JeffMhave you ever installed 8.1?
06:19.09JeffMpeople wanted the menu not the button :)
06:19.26allejoew god no. os x <3
06:19.35JeffMand that wasn't advertsing that was bad press
06:19.45JeffMthe start buton is not the same as the start menu
06:20.00JeffMit still brings up the full screen metro GUI
06:20.20allejowhich is atrocious on a desktop
06:20.45JeffMyeah
06:20.56JeffMI use Start8 and evething is good
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06:35.18JeffM6 total people are playing right now
06:36.19JeffM25 servers per player
06:36.45allejothe more to pick from
06:37.11JeffMheh
06:37.20JeffMthe 6 people are on 2 servers
06:37.38JeffMthere are more bzadmin clients logged in now then people :)
06:39.56JeffMfor scale, there are 600 people playing Final Fantasy 7 right now :)
06:45.57JeffM3000 people are playing a farming simulator
06:46.08allejoplease don't tell farmville
06:46.55allejotell me*
06:47.40JeffMno, farming simulator 2013
06:47.52JeffMa real 3d drive around a tractor simulator
06:48.10allejowth
06:48.15allejothat's a game...?
06:48.37JeffM13 THOSAND people are playing football manager 2014, a game where all you do is manage player stats and on't actualy play football
06:48.40JeffMyup
06:49.18JeffMhttp://www.farming-simulator.com/
06:50.00allejosighes
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14:14.05bradallejo: did you not see http://i.imgur.com/D54G7bD.jpg ? :D
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15:18.49allejobrad, evidently not
15:18.52allejo:p
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15:55.52blast007"Just Launched: You can now import projects and releases from GitHub onto SourceForge"  ;D
15:56.51blast007The 1-click operation you wish asked "are you ABSOLUTELY sure?" before proceeding, I guess.
15:57.02JeffMthey did google code recentlu
15:57.30JeffMcus it's like the reason people don't want to use SF is because of a lack of imports :)
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17:41.20JeffMheh, someone sent an email to bzflag@bzflag.me asking if they could use a screenshot in a presentation on 'polygons'
17:54.24swigg_JeffM: Habbo Hotelstatistics: http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/habbo-hotels-record-year-2010-in-numbers/
17:55.00JeffMhuh?
17:55.25JeffMoh yeah
17:55.28JeffMthose games do a lot
17:55.30swigg_you were looking @ other sites
17:55.37JeffMI was just reading steam stats from last night
17:55.48swigg_I wonder if a google bomb would boost the game.
17:55.50JeffMour 6 peopole was sad
17:55.53JeffMno
17:55.57JeffMnobody will stick
17:56.04JeffMit has too many issues
17:56.10blast007what if we make it a glue bomb?
17:56.21JeffMwe get several THOUSAND people hitting the site and only a few stay to play
17:56.31JeffMwell then they'd stick to something :)
17:57.07swigg_how did the game originally catch on?
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17:57.20JeffMit shipped with SGI machines
17:57.29swigg_I went to a few sites like Habbo and found a lot of creeps
17:57.32JeffMthen it was one of the few nework games
17:57.36JeffMit's no longer unique
17:57.59JeffMit used to be somewhat before it's time, now it's behind the times
17:58.03swigg_I have seen one SGI machine in the last decade. Neat box.
17:58.05JeffMexpectations are different
17:58.24blast007hats!
17:58.30JeffMyou can't really compare social game numbers to action game numbers
17:58.49JeffMproduction value not withstanding, bxflag is up aginst things like TF2
17:58.52JeffMand all them hats :)
17:59.09JeffMso people have a lot more choices these days and we don't do anything to stand out
17:59.29JeffMand no, poor network performance doesn't count as a 'feature'
17:59.32swigg_it's fun... and addictive to some
17:59.38JeffMto a few
17:59.48JeffMnot as many as there used to be
18:00.03JeffMbut yes, it could be fixed
18:00.12swigg_agree
18:00.20JeffMit's just that I don't think advertising is going to get people to come and stay
18:00.38JeffMif you advertised now you'd do more harm as you'd make people look at an inferior product
18:01.21blast007we'd need at least the 2.6 proposed features before we should even think about advertising
18:01.30JeffMat the VERY VERY least
18:01.34JeffMand it'd have to be rock solid
18:01.55swigg_well... if head cheese, souse, limburger cheese, sardines, liverwurst, eggplant can survive....
18:02.25JeffMyeah but they arn't really being developed into new things :)
18:02.26swigg_or even that 'click' game can make it...
18:02.49swigg_and THAT game sucks...
18:03.03JeffMthe only way to 'ship' unfinished software these days is to sell it as early access or beta
18:03.15JeffMthen the expectations are lower
18:03.39JeffMhell, Sony is currently selling 100$ packages that allow access to a friggin alpha
18:03.49swigg_http://www.clickclickclick.com/
18:04.10JeffMjust play cookie cliker instead
18:04.48swigg_oh yeah; that one
18:05.19JeffMthose games are cheap to maintain for the user and don't require a community
18:06.01JeffMand the founder hasn't given up on them since it's worth the time/money due to add revenue
18:07.59JeffMbut at least a min of 6 players makes it an easy target to beat for anything else :)
18:09.33blast007the only thing we really need is a kill cam
18:09.52JeffMand tbags
18:10.33JeffMhow can you truely indicate to your opponent that you have beaten them if you can't drag some truck nutz across them?
18:11.40blast007;D
18:12.17JeffMit's wierd, in my unity test you can't drive into other players, I didn't realise how different that would be
18:12.52JeffMand also since I don't have death hooked up yet the shots bounce off other players
18:16.56JeffMany web monkeys want to help work on the authentication system for it?
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